Speaker 1: Oh, guess what day it is.
Speaker 2: Guess what day it is?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 4: Anybody?
Speaker 5: It's hump Day.
Speaker 4: Yes, it is hump Day. It is also the eve
Speaker 4: of Thanksgiving. Welcome to the Big Bloon Sider, Dick Gabriel
Speaker 4: with you. What a busy week men's basketball, women's basketball, football,
Speaker 4: with a U OFL game coming up, all the national
Speaker 4: stuff going on in a holiday, So I want to
Speaker 4: jump right in and tell you that tomorrow night, of course,
Speaker 4: we will have a best of show at being a holiday,
Speaker 4: but if you're traveling, if you're in the car, turn
Speaker 4: that radio on right here, because it's going to be
Speaker 4: the best of the Big Blue Sider. But we're going
Speaker 4: to take you back to the first conversation I had
Speaker 4: personally via phone. I didn't have him in the garage,
Speaker 4: but Mark Pope says, at least at some point he
Speaker 4: will visit us here as long as we have cookies,
Speaker 4: and we have assured and we will. But we will
Speaker 4: have portions of that conversation with Mark, and then we
Speaker 4: will replay our recent interview with Cameron Mills. Not just
Speaker 4: because Cameron and I are buddies and we get silly
Speaker 4: on the radio, but this was the conversation we had
Speaker 4: the day after the Duke game, so he came by
Speaker 4: the garage as he always does, and we broke things down. Yes,
Speaker 4: they played since then, but so much of what we
Speaker 4: talked about that day is still relevant, even maybe more
Speaker 4: relevant since we've seen the Wildcats play again and so
Speaker 4: of you. So that's for tomorrow night. But tonight this
Speaker 4: is a great one. We've got first of our Western
Speaker 4: Bureau Chief, Gary Moore, as always on a Wednesday night,
Speaker 4: but we have Keith Madison, the UK baseball coach, who
Speaker 4: has written a new book just in time for the holidays,
Speaker 4: stocking stuffers. Think about that. We're gonna talk about Stevie
Speaker 4: Johnson because we're on the eve of the U of
Speaker 4: L game, and that's of course the day we're back
Speaker 4: in twenty oh seven on my birthday. No less, STEVEE
Speaker 4: got loose and made everybody happy in Commonwealth State who's
Speaker 4: wearing blue? And I bring up Stevie as well because
Speaker 4: he will open our broadcast on Saturday, the final game
Speaker 4: of the year. Sadly, but if you've been following along
Speaker 4: and we appreciate it, you know that we have had
Speaker 4: a different celebrity player former coach civilian, if you will
Speaker 4: even still open the broadcast for us. In fact, Josh Hopkins,
Speaker 4: an actor from Lexington who lives in Austin now, opened
Speaker 4: last week's broadcast. Well, Stevie will open things up for
Speaker 4: us this Saturday, and he did a tremendous job. I'm
Speaker 4: working on putting it together right now. You will really
Speaker 4: enjoy what you hear from Stevie. So, yeah, we've got
Speaker 4: a lot going on this week. But let's look at
Speaker 4: last night's Kentucky basketball game. I went over Western Kentucky
Speaker 4: that was probably tougher than most people expected, even though
Speaker 4: WKU was an nca Tournament team last year. And they're good, man,
Speaker 4: I mean, you saw him last night. The Hilltoppers are good.
Speaker 4: After the game, Hank plan out of the Western Kentucky coach,
Speaker 4: talked a lot, of course about his team and about
Speaker 4: Kentucky and how challenging it is to try to guard
Speaker 4: the Wildcats, who are really good on the inside and
Speaker 4: the outside.
Speaker 6: They got four guys on the floor they can shoot
Speaker 6: at all times. There's always at least one guy that's
Speaker 6: among the best three point shooters in college basketball. So
Speaker 6: they stretch you out a little bit and we were
Speaker 6: trying to pressure while protecting the rim. You know, they
Speaker 6: were slipping and cutting to the basket quite a bit.
Speaker 6: So their offense is very is very difficult to pose.
Speaker 6: There's a lot of challenges, to be perfectly honest with
Speaker 6: you guys.
Speaker 4: And talking about Kentucky's offense, Plana talked about the way
Speaker 4: the Wildcats execute, about how quickly they get things done
Speaker 4: this early in the season.
Speaker 6: They execute very very well. I mean they they cut
Speaker 6: to the basket at full speed so that you know
Speaker 6: when you stretch out and guard the line. I mean,
Speaker 6: they're not just running their patterns. They're running their patterns,
Speaker 6: changing the speed, changing directions at a very very high level.
Speaker 4: And the follow up on that, Hank Plona, the Western
Speaker 4: Kentucky coach, said, what's really impressive, at least to him,
Speaker 4: is the fact that UK is executing so efficiently and quickly,
Speaker 4: changing speeds, communicating all that intricate stuff. And it's happening
Speaker 4: now here in November, not down the stretch heading into
Speaker 4: tournament season.
Speaker 6: You know, credit to them is not a lot of
Speaker 6: teams look quite like that on November twenty sixth, you know,
Speaker 6: I think by January February March. I think a lot
Speaker 6: of teams get to that point, but you know, they
Speaker 6: put a new group of people together. Those guys to
Speaker 6: cut like that, you have to be unselfish, you have
Speaker 6: to be team oriented, you have to be playing for
Speaker 6: the name on the front of their jersey, and man,
Speaker 6: they've they've certainly come together and formed that identity very
Speaker 6: very fast.
Speaker 4: So that's Hank Plana, the Western Kentucky coach. While we're
Speaker 4: talking about basketball, we need to talk, of course about
Speaker 4: the UK women. They ran their record to six and
Speaker 4: oher by knocking off Arizona State in the Music City Classic,
Speaker 4: and in fact, Game two of that series for the
Speaker 4: Wildcats comes up tonight. That's why we'll be off at
Speaker 4: seven forty five. Darren Edwick was pregame as the Cats
Speaker 4: take on Illinois this evening. But Kenny Brooks's ball club,
Speaker 4: he's in his first season with the Cats. Of course,
Speaker 4: he has Kentucky six to zero for the first time
Speaker 4: since twenty twenty one. They won each of their first
Speaker 4: six games of the season by at least ten points,
Speaker 4: and for the second straight game, two players had at
Speaker 4: least twenty in the game. Clara Strack had twenty four
Speaker 4: Georgia Amore had twenty Kentucky blocked ten shots. After the game,
Speaker 4: Brooks said, you know what we might lack in the
Speaker 4: lateral quickness, we make up for in verticality, basically in height.
Speaker 4: And this is the fifth time this year already UK
Speaker 4: has recorded at least ten block shots, sixty eight on
Speaker 4: the season. Gets this, Kentucky needs just one hundred and
Speaker 4: fourteen more to break the team record, which was set
Speaker 4: in thirty six games back in twenty twelve. Thirteen Cats
Speaker 4: held Arizona State to no field goals for the first
Speaker 4: seven minutes and sixteen seconds the second quarter. So all
Speaker 4: that height clearly intimidating the sun devils. So again tonight,
Speaker 4: UK Illinois will have it for you right here. Darren
Speaker 4: Hedrick with pregame at seven forty five, shift you over
Speaker 4: to football real quickly. It is Louisville week. As we said,
Speaker 4: Cutter Bowley gets his first start. And somebody asked Marx
Speaker 4: Tubes about the fact that the players seem to rally
Speaker 4: around the big guy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's just got that, he's got that feel, he's
Speaker 7: got the Moxie's the type of guy he gets along
Speaker 7: with absolutely everybody on the team. He fits in with everybody.
Speaker 7: He's He's just got a very good personality that way.
Speaker 7: I think they know he's got that moxie or swagger
Speaker 7: or whatever you want to call it. That when he
Speaker 7: gets in there, he has a strong belief in himself
Speaker 7: and and you know he sees the feed failed well
Speaker 7: as you know.
Speaker 4: Also, it was hard not to notice the difference, of course,
Speaker 4: when Bully came in and replaced Brock Vandergrif who's at
Speaker 4: such a tough season and beaten and banged up behind
Speaker 4: a makeshift offensive line, and it just it clearly, it
Speaker 4: looks like it's gotten into his head a little bit.
Speaker 4: I guess. I guess Cutter Bowlly, being a freshman, doesn't
Speaker 4: know what he's not supposed to know. He just looks
Speaker 4: more like a veteran because he's so cool, calm and
Speaker 4: collected in the pocket. And Stoops said it was obviously
Speaker 4: noticeable in the Texas game one play, in particular, in a.
Speaker 7: Tough environment against the top you know, five team in
Speaker 7: the country on the road and all out pressure, give
Speaker 7: a little ground and throw it to a space. You know,
Speaker 7: I'm not sure TV does it justice.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I didn't see the TV copy, but you know, I
Speaker 7: look at it on film and you see the way
Speaker 7: he had the awareness, the presence that he was calm,
Speaker 7: backed up and threw it to an open space. It
Speaker 7: was pretty impressive play. And you know there's many more
Speaker 7: like that in there. I'd like to see us give
Speaker 7: him a little bit more time so he can operate
Speaker 7: more efficiently. And the same goes.
Speaker 4: For so Cutter Bowley. We'll get the start. Will we
Speaker 4: see Brock Vandergriff against Louisville. Don't know, whatever does happen,
Speaker 4: you'll hear it right here. On six thirty WLAP pregame
Speaker 4: covered starts local coverage of nine am. Oh yep, kegs
Speaker 4: and eggs gonna be cold too, ten am Network pregame
Speaker 4: with Christy Logan and Jeremy and then noon kickoff Tom Leach,
Speaker 4: jeffiicor on Yours truly for the Cats and the Cards,
Speaker 4: UK riding that six game winning streak. Up next, we'll
Speaker 4: talk more football. And here's a little tease for you
Speaker 4: coming up in hour number two. At the end of
Speaker 4: the show, our last segment going into UK women's basketball,
Speaker 4: we are going to revisit one of the greatest episodes
Speaker 4: in sitcom history, and this being Thanksgiving week, here's a
Speaker 4: little teaser for you.
Speaker 5: It's flying something behind it I Tacklin make it out.
Speaker 5: It's a large bunner and it says, get the things.
Speaker 4: From w That's right. We're gonna talk about the episode
Speaker 4: Turkey's Away, and if you know anything about that show,
Speaker 4: you know exactly what I'm talking about. That comes up
Speaker 4: in our number two stay with us here on six
Speaker 4: point thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big Boonsider. Coming
Speaker 4: up in our second hour, West n Bureau Chief Gary Moore,
Speaker 4: and our tribute to one of the greatest episodes in
Speaker 4: the history of sitcom TV, Turkey's Away from WKRP in Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: But we've got some stuff to discuss, first of all,
Speaker 4: but Colorado beating Yukon, second ranked team in the country
Speaker 4: and Danny Hurley going off on the sidelines once again,
Speaker 4: and he has really taken a lot of flak for
Speaker 4: that as well he should. He says, it's the second
Speaker 4: time he has gone ballistic on the sidelines over the officials. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I know coaches have troubles with refs, but this is
Speaker 4: kind of ridiculous. Kansas beats Duke seventy five, seventy two,
Speaker 4: and if it weren't for Hunter Dickinson, the headline might
Speaker 4: be the posterizing dunk delivered by Cooper Flagg. But it wasn't.
Speaker 4: Hunter Dickinson, fifth year senior, still doing childish things, ejected
Speaker 4: from the game for kicking a Duke player in the head,
Speaker 4: Malik Brown. They were scuffling on the floor. It all
Speaker 4: kind of erupted. Brown was assessed a personal foul for
Speaker 4: backing into Dickinson. They were both going for a rebound.
Speaker 4: Dickinson was given a flagrant IWO for kicking them in
Speaker 4: the head. They were on the ground in front of
Speaker 4: the bench area and Dickinson kicked him in the head,
Speaker 4: so he got the flagrant two and he got the boot.
Speaker 4: Dickinson has been doing punk type things ever, so I
Speaker 4: don't know if he did it in his previous school Michigan.
Speaker 4: I don't remember seeing him do that in London. Didn't
Speaker 4: do anything goofy there when he played against Kentucky. But man,
Speaker 4: he is making some bad headlines since getting to Kansas.
Speaker 4: And remember there was a point where a lot of
Speaker 4: us thought he was coming to Kentucky. Got a better
Speaker 4: nil deal in Lawrence saying with basketball inside, the NBA
Speaker 4: was kicking it around last night. See what I did there.
Speaker 4: Evidently somebody leaked. Somebody from the Philadelphia seventy six ers
Speaker 4: leaked the fact that Joel Embiid is late all the
Speaker 4: time and they had a team meeting, and that's one
Speaker 4: of the things that came up. But somebody leaked what
Speaker 4: they were talking about to the media, and the gang
Speaker 4: on inside the NBA discussed it, including my man, Charles
Speaker 4: Barkley and Shaquie O'Neal. And Barkley as always quite frank
Speaker 4: about both the Embiid situation and whoever leaked it.
Speaker 2: You cannot be leaked all the time, disrespectful to your
Speaker 2: teammates and your coaches and everybody. You can't be late.
Speaker 2: So first, Joel has on that, But what whoever leaked
Speaker 2: that to the press need to be punched in the
Speaker 2: face in a team meeting. Those are secret, Ernie. You
Speaker 2: can't tell out secrets in a team meeting.
Speaker 1: Now, like I said, nextely, somebody has been punched in
Speaker 1: the face, but that didn't.
Speaker 2: Get out yet. No, no, But I'm saying, though, when
Speaker 2: you when you when you in those meetings, they're very
Speaker 2: personal when you especially when you call out a guy
Speaker 2: like that. Like I said, Joe has to own being
Speaker 2: laid all the time. He has to own that. But
Speaker 2: that's that should have never guiden to the press in
Speaker 2: this area we live in. That's never going a check
Speaker 2: no check. You know, if y'all had a team meeting,
Speaker 2: a guy accused you of something, but it shouldn't should
Speaker 2: not it should not check Jim Gray, how you doing something?
Speaker 2: But somebody has to tell Jim Gray and you should
Speaker 2: not do that. I have a Joey was right on
Speaker 2: the part he said he called me a piece of
Speaker 2: crap who leaked that? But he has to own I
Speaker 2: can't be late all the time.
Speaker 4: Let's curtsey a T n T. I certainly hope whoever
Speaker 4: did the leaking wasn't Tyrese Maxi. And as a media guy,
Speaker 4: I love him when people leaked, but I don't want
Speaker 4: Tyrese Maxi to invoke any bad blood with his teammates.
Speaker 4: That's a certainty. Over in the NFL, the Players Association
Speaker 4: released the top fifty player sales list, and some guys
Speaker 4: are seeing their jerseys fly off the racks. Who is
Speaker 4: number one in the top five are all quarterbacks, No surprise,
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes once again with the most merch sold. Second
Speaker 4: year QB C. J. Stroud of the Texans is second,
Speaker 4: Then Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts number four on the list.
Speaker 4: Bears rookie quarterback Caleb Williams, I guess that's not a surprise,
Speaker 4: And even though his team is struggling, Joe Burrow of
Speaker 4: the Bengals is number five. The highest ranked non quarterback
Speaker 4: in terms of Jersey sales, Lions d nd Aiden Hutchinson
Speaker 4: is number six, and then his teammate wide receiver i'man
Speaker 4: Ross Saint Brown is number seven. So some of those
Speaker 4: numbers are predictable and some of them are not. And
Speaker 4: by the way, number eight Kristin McCaffrey, number nine Micah Parsons,
Speaker 4: and number ten Travis Kelcey. Quick baseball note for you
Speaker 4: the rich kid Richard. The Dodgers sign Cy Young Award
Speaker 4: winner from the Giants. There are tribals Blake Snell, so
Speaker 4: that means they have a potentially incredible starting rotation of Snell,
Speaker 4: Tyler Glass, now Yoshinobu Yamamoto, Shohei Otani, assuming he pitches
Speaker 4: again and then picked from four or five guys. But
Speaker 4: one of the names that is not coming up is
Speaker 4: Lexings Walker Buehler. So the signing of Snell, and of
Speaker 4: course Bueller's been battling injuries, although we pitch well in
Speaker 4: postseason just might mean he's going to be looking for
Speaker 4: another team. I won't get into the money. It's ridiculous,
Speaker 4: but the Dodgers have just, you know, incredibly deep pockets.
Speaker 4: They can afford to pay the payroll taxes. But they
Speaker 4: signed Snell. Supposedly the Red Sox are trying to get
Speaker 4: him the Yankee. He's had a zoom call with him,
Speaker 4: but they're really concentrating on resigning one Soto and college football.
Speaker 4: Note you know this by now. Mac Brown fired by
Speaker 4: North Carolina right after he said he was coming back.
Speaker 4: Not so fast, my friend. One of the names, of course,
Speaker 4: it's being tossed out there John some Roll. And this
Speaker 4: doesn't mean he's a candidate. It just means that whoever
Speaker 4: was typing up a list of guys who maybe they
Speaker 4: might want to look at. But the former Kentucky linebacker
Speaker 4: in his first year Tulane has the Greenway nine and two.
Speaker 4: They're thinking playoff playoffs. He went twenty three and four
Speaker 4: in two years at Troy. He's young, he's forty two
Speaker 4: years old, and he has a great reputation. Of course,
Speaker 4: Kentucky fans who are unhappy with stoops or banging a
Speaker 4: drum for John some roll. Here's an interesting note about
Speaker 4: Mac Brown. When he was first in North Carolina, he
Speaker 4: had two turns there. This is when Kentucky was looking
Speaker 4: for a head coach with Saam Newton, as he ended
Speaker 4: up hiring Hell Mummy. But Newton and I were together
Speaker 4: at one point and he asked me, what are the
Speaker 4: fans saying? And I mentioned two or three names, and
Speaker 4: one of them was Mac Brown, who was doing some
Speaker 4: good things at North Carolina. And talking about all three
Speaker 4: guys or however many I mentioned, Seam said yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: they're good. Yeah, but have they ever sustained anything? And
Speaker 4: I had to answer, well, I don't know, I don't
Speaker 4: think so. But turns out Mac Brown did sustain well
Speaker 4: enough at Carolina, then went on to Texas before he
Speaker 4: ended up back in North Carolina. But now he's out
Speaker 4: of a job. Hey, remember alone a mayor, She was
Speaker 4: a household name. During the summer, she helped lead the
Speaker 4: US women's rugby team to a bronze medal in the
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four Olympics. Well, she kind of got the
Speaker 4: silver medal, and Dancing with the Star she came in second.
Speaker 4: The season finale aired last night. No, I do not
Speaker 4: watch this. I kind of pulled this off the interweb.
Speaker 4: Joey Graziade was the winner. She wasn't the only athlete
Speaker 4: to call for the final. Gymnast Steven Netteroseik finished fourth,
Speaker 4: and ex NFL White Dot Damni m Mendola was fifth.
Speaker 4: So Team USA well represented on Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 4: And by the way, I don't watch Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 4: I don't judge anybody who does, but I read a
Speaker 4: comment from somebody who said it seems like they're running
Speaker 4: out of stars and this season may just underscore that
Speaker 4: better than any Because the guy who won, Joey Graziade.
Speaker 4: If you know who he is, you watch a lot
Speaker 4: of TV. And again, not judging, but here's why he
Speaker 4: is a star. He is best known as the runner
Speaker 4: up on season twenty of The Bachelorette, he didn't even win.
Speaker 4: He was the runner up on season twenty and the
Speaker 4: star of season twenty eight, and now he's the winner.
Speaker 4: In seasons thirty three of Dancing with the Stars. What
Speaker 4: was he before he became a quote unquote TV star?
Speaker 4: He was a teaching tennis pro from Collegeville, Pennsylvania. Now,
Speaker 4: you know what, good for him, and I hope he's
Speaker 4: making as much money as he possibly can. You gotta
Speaker 4: wonder will he ever go back if he hasn't yet
Speaker 4: to giving tennis lessons. But I guess you can call
Speaker 4: him a star now easily more than fifteen minutes of
Speaker 4: fame for this guy. Up next, Keith Madison. After that
Speaker 4: we'll talk a little bit of Stevie Got Loose, our
Speaker 4: number two West End Bureau Chief Gary Moore, and our
Speaker 4: special tribute to WKRP the episode Turkeys Away. That's all
Speaker 4: ahead here on six thirty WLAP joining us on our
Speaker 4: Celebrity Hotline is a guy who's actually been right here
Speaker 4: in the garage in front of him. He's been on
Speaker 4: the Celebrity Hotline too, But coach Keith Madison usually here
Speaker 4: with the Chain gang. But you're kind of special people now, Coach,
Speaker 4: because you're an author, you've written a book. Tell me
Speaker 4: all about this.
Speaker 9: Well, it's been fun experience. I really enjoyed the writing
Speaker 9: process and the name of the book, Dick is Coaching
Speaker 9: with Purpose, And basically it's trying to help coaches avoid
Speaker 9: some of the mistakes I made. But it's not all
Speaker 9: about that, but uh, it's it's a book that hopefully
Speaker 9: helps coaches win on the on the field or on
Speaker 9: the court and off the court with their athletes. I
Speaker 9: just I just think that coaches, Yeah, they're paid to win,
Speaker 9: but they have such an opportunity to impact their athletes
Speaker 9: and in a positive way because they spend so much
Speaker 9: time with them, and because if if you're if you're
Speaker 9: a decent coach, a good coach, they're going to listen
Speaker 9: to you, so you can impact these young people and
Speaker 9: help them to become better husbands, better wives, better sin.
Speaker 9: I just think that coaches have this golden opportunity to
Speaker 9: make an impact that's perhaps bigger than they even know.
Speaker 4: Did you feel like you were not tuned into that
Speaker 4: when you first got started. I got to assume you
Speaker 4: were kind of overwhelmed by the job itself because you
Speaker 4: had so much going against you. But this sounds like
Speaker 4: something coach that has dawned on you through the years.
Speaker 9: You're exactly right. I think when I first started coaching.
Speaker 9: I really loved my players. I had a great group
Speaker 9: of young men, but it was it was it was
Speaker 9: all work, and I didn't talk to them as much
Speaker 9: about important things off the field as I should have, probably,
Speaker 9: although I still have great relationships with those guys. But
Speaker 9: I just think that you know, these coaches that whether
Speaker 9: you're a college coach or a minor league hitting coach
Speaker 9: or a little league coach, you know, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 9: You have influence on those people you coach. And I
Speaker 9: think that young people need that discipline and that structure
Speaker 9: that they have at practicing on the field, but they
Speaker 9: also sometimes are a little bit lost when it comes
Speaker 9: to things off the field.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm wondering about a challenge you might have
Speaker 4: faced when you first began, because that's when I first
Speaker 4: met you, when you started coaching at Kentucky. You know,
Speaker 4: relatively speaking, how old we are now, you weren't that
Speaker 4: much older than the guys you were coaching. I got
Speaker 4: to think that had a lot to do with it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think so, you know, I was I was
Speaker 9: twenty six years old, and my first baseman was twenty
Speaker 9: two years old, and my second basement was twenty two
Speaker 9: years old. Wow, I just you know it. But I
Speaker 9: think because they had had such a tucky year of
Speaker 9: the year before. Uh, I think they were they were
Speaker 9: looking to win, and they were looking to turn it around.
Speaker 9: And I had just played professional baseball, uh two or
Speaker 9: three years before that, and so they thought that was
Speaker 9: kind of cool. And they felt like I could relate
Speaker 9: to them, and I felt like I did relate to them.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 9: And we had fun. You know, we worked hard, so
Speaker 9: we had sun and we uh gosh, we got to
Speaker 9: know each other because we had to. We had to
Speaker 9: take trips to places like Athens, Georgia in vance. Yeah,
Speaker 9: and we didn't we didn't take a bus. We took
Speaker 9: you know, about three vans and and John Butler drove one,
Speaker 9: I drove one, and an equipment manager drove the other
Speaker 9: and and we're heading down I seventy five and and
Speaker 9: it was amazing because I think you and I've talked
Speaker 9: about this before, but we we would get to the field,
Speaker 9: and let's just use Georgia as an example. We get
Speaker 9: to the field of at ten thirty or eleven o'clock
Speaker 9: in the morning and take battie practice and do all
Speaker 9: the pregame activities and then play a game and then
Speaker 9: getting those vans and drive back to the Lectington. It
Speaker 9: was exhausting, But when you're twenty six or twenty seven
Speaker 9: years old, it's that big a deal. I guess we
Speaker 9: but that's what I really got to know those guys,
Speaker 9: you know. I spent time talking to him in those vans,
Speaker 9: and they felt comfortable with me, and I felt really
Speaker 9: comfortable with them. But it's those kind of relationships that
Speaker 9: are so special that coaches have an opportunity to experience.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 9: I was in touch on a regular basis with my
Speaker 9: little league coach up until the day he died. He
Speaker 9: actually called me the day he called me the day
Speaker 9: he passed away, right, and you know, and the impact
Speaker 9: he had on me as a as a kid, and
Speaker 9: then my high school coach was he was a great guy.
Speaker 9: He had a tremendous impact me. I just want other
Speaker 9: coaches to leverage that and know that they have it.
Speaker 9: And winning is awesome and that's what we need to do.
Speaker 9: It's a lot more fun when you win. But you
Speaker 9: can win on the field and you can win with
Speaker 9: the players off the field, and that's doubly special.
Speaker 4: You played for and coached with a lot of different coaches.
Speaker 4: And I got to think writing this book made you,
Speaker 4: you know, and you just talk about how much you
Speaker 4: enjoyed it, but you know, sit back and reflect on
Speaker 4: what you learn from them, what they may have learned
Speaker 4: from you. I mean, you know, this had to have
Speaker 4: been a great trip down memory lane.
Speaker 2: No doubt that.
Speaker 9: And that's exactly why it was fun, because I started
Speaker 9: remembering things that I hadn't thought of in years, like
Speaker 9: this one experience I had with Russ Nixon. He was
Speaker 9: a manager. Doug Twinn and I both played for US.
Speaker 9: Great manager, tough guy played you know, he was a
Speaker 9: catcher for the Red I played with Ted Williams and
Speaker 9: all that. But I respected him so much. So I
Speaker 9: had a really bad outing one night. I was the
Speaker 9: closer on the staff, and uh, he called me into
Speaker 9: his little office there at all Little Past Stadium the
Speaker 9: next day before we did our workout, and I thought, man,
Speaker 9: this is not going to go good because he was
Speaker 9: a tough guy and and you know, as a minor
Speaker 9: league do you never know whether a bad outing is
Speaker 9: the last time you'll ever pitch right. And so he
Speaker 9: calls me in and he had a really serious look
Speaker 9: on his face, and I'm not going to say it
Speaker 9: over the air, but he said, Madison, you were a horse.
Speaker 9: Understand you could fill in the plank. And he said, uh,
Speaker 9: he said that that was that was just a terrible
Speaker 9: outing last night. I thought, oh boys, that yeah, And
Speaker 9: but then he said this, He said, but you're my closure,
Speaker 9: and if you go out there tonight, I expect you
Speaker 9: to to be the best closer in the Florida State League.
Speaker 9: And man, he just I mean that listed me, you know,
Speaker 9: he he ripped me a little bit, and I deserved it,
Speaker 9: but then he made me feel so special. And sure enough,
Speaker 9: I go out out that night and I'm throwing gass
Speaker 9: and I'm feeling good because Russ Nixon believed in me.
Speaker 9: And that's such a that seems like such a simple thing,
Speaker 9: but when coaches believe in athletes, sure they can do
Speaker 9: so much more.
Speaker 4: You know, I've never coached really at your level. I'm
Speaker 4: a little bit of little league here and there, but
Speaker 4: I've managed people through my career and and looking back,
Speaker 4: there a couple of times when I thought, you know,
Speaker 4: I just never got through to this guy, and I
Speaker 4: probably should have just parted ways with him. Uh, because
Speaker 4: but I didn't because I thought, well, I'll be laying
Speaker 4: another problem on somebody else, and it's my problem to manage,
Speaker 4: you know, all that kind of stuff. Did you ever
Speaker 4: think in those terms? I got to think there were
Speaker 4: some players you just couldn't get through to and maybe
Speaker 4: somebody else could have.
Speaker 9: I don't know, Yeah, no doubt about it. I mean
Speaker 9: I would be lying to you, Dick, if if I
Speaker 9: told you that I connected with every player that I coach.
Speaker 9: That just doesn't happen because there's always this thing called
Speaker 9: personality that that can that can cause you not to connect.
Speaker 9: You know, maybe that maybe that young man or that
Speaker 9: young woman they just they just don't want to spend
Speaker 9: time with you. But that that does happen. But I
Speaker 9: think you know, the coach's job is to is to
Speaker 9: get the best possible out of that particular athlete. And
Speaker 9: if you have to bite your tongue a little bit
Speaker 9: and uh, eat some mumble pie, you know you got.
Speaker 8: To do that.
Speaker 9: But your job is to get that young person to produce.
Speaker 9: And uh, if we if we go about our jobs
Speaker 9: that way, it's going to be better. And then I've
Speaker 9: had this happen for Dick, or you do that, and
Speaker 9: maybe you know that that player doesn't like you, yep,
Speaker 9: but you just keep you just keep on pouring into
Speaker 9: him and try to add value to not only his
Speaker 9: his skills, but also add value to his life. And
Speaker 9: if you just keep doing that, I mean some of
Speaker 9: those people are the best friends I have right now.
Speaker 9: That the relationships started off a little top, little rocky,
Speaker 9: but then you just keep pouring into him and things
Speaker 9: turn around, and that's when it's really rewarding.
Speaker 4: Interesting, Coach. I appreciated. We will talk more about this
Speaker 4: when the rest of the chain gang joined you here
Speaker 4: in the garage. But tell everybody where they can find
Speaker 4: that book. Is it out yet or where we ready
Speaker 4: to recommend it for stocking stuffers?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's just coming out next week. And as a
Speaker 9: matter of fact, today I want to be putting the
Speaker 9: links on my website and you can go to my
Speaker 9: website website Coach Keithmadison dot com and you'll be able
Speaker 9: to find the link there on how to order the book.
Speaker 9: And I really appreciate you asking me about it, Dick,
Speaker 9: No problem.
Speaker 4: Always enjoy talking with you. Thanks, Coach, have a great
Speaker 4: holiday and we'll talk soon here in the garage.
Speaker 9: Okay, Dick, thank you.
Speaker 4: I want to come with a Big Blue Sider here
Speaker 4: on six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big Blue
Speaker 4: Sider coming up Saturday. Uku of l the rivalry that
Speaker 4: should be played first game of the year. I would
Speaker 4: even accept third game of the year, but I've said
Speaker 4: it over and over. I liked it first game because
Speaker 4: I'm in the hype business, and it gave us more
Speaker 4: to talk about all summer long getting into Kentucky football
Speaker 4: season with that game upcoming. And remember when Bill Curry
Speaker 4: and Howard Snellenberger got together and agreed to work to
Speaker 4: get this game happening. That's one of the biggest reasons
Speaker 4: they weren't ashamed to say, Look, we're tired of hearing
Speaker 4: people talking about basketball recruiting all summer long. We need
Speaker 4: them talking about football. And this got us talking, didn't it.
Speaker 4: And then of course Rich Brooks came in. He wanted
Speaker 4: to move it to the third week, so it alternated
Speaker 4: when Kentucky hosted third week when Louisville hosted first week.
Speaker 4: And I understood why Rich wanted that, get a better
Speaker 4: read on your team. But once it was moved by
Speaker 4: the SEC because of television to the end of the season,
Speaker 4: and there have been some really good games and the
Speaker 4: air been games that really worked out well for Kentucky.
Speaker 4: There were some drama involved. Do they go to a
Speaker 4: bowl game? Do they not think back to that upset
Speaker 4: win over the Lamar Jackson U of L team, But
Speaker 4: it gets lost in the weekend, especially weekend like this
Speaker 4: when uk. I mean, this is the bowl game for
Speaker 4: the Wildcats. Cardinals are good, They're going to a bowl game.
Speaker 4: But I'm just and it's not even a traditional thing.
Speaker 4: I just like the hype. Part of the hype is
Speaker 4: the Wildcad Whip. I hope you've enjoyed podcast that Tom
Speaker 4: Lee chip Icorn I have been doing at South The
Speaker 4: Wrigley got together earlier today. We usually tape on Thursday,
Speaker 4: but obviously we can't tomorrow, and this is part of
Speaker 4: this week's Wildcat Whip. It is a rivalry, but each
Speaker 4: school has had its opportunities to own it for a while.
Speaker 4: It's never been like Red Blue, Red Blue. You know,
Speaker 4: it's been very streaking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the other streets look at a couple of things
Speaker 1: in preparing. The winning score is usually pretty high. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's either been blowouts, or it's been a
Speaker 1: high scoring game like last year where I think it
Speaker 1: was a thirty eight to thirty one. I mean, Kentucky
Speaker 1: hasn't scored above twenty and anybody in the SEC this
Speaker 1: is the only other power for opponent they will have played.
Speaker 4: I looked up.
Speaker 1: The last time the winning score was twenty or less
Speaker 1: in this game was nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 4: So it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1: Can the new QB was the coach in ninety five
Speaker 1: that would have in Bill Curry and Ron Yes, uh Cooper, yep, yep.
Speaker 4: Ye thirteen. I was thirteen to ten that year.
Speaker 8: I think that the reason for that tom is because,
Speaker 8: especially like a game like tomorrow, Kentucky has nothing to lose. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I mean, so you pull everything out. Mark Stoops says, look,
Speaker 8: score every drive. I don't care if you scored in
Speaker 8: one play or it takes twenty plays. Score every drive.
Speaker 8: Don't try to feed you. But there's times when because
Speaker 8: of who people are, you have to make sure they
Speaker 8: stay in the game.
Speaker 4: Not this game.
Speaker 8: This game you play to win, you double reverse pass whatever.
Speaker 8: I think you see a wide open game of postains.
Speaker 8: Louisville already does that. If you ever watch any other games.
Speaker 8: They do all kinds of tricks plays during the game.
Speaker 8: Kentucky's brought them out every once in a while, and
Speaker 8: most of the time they've been successful.
Speaker 4: Ye brom is known for that though, I mean he's
Speaker 4: all with Purdue or Louisville. He's got quite the interesting playbook.
Speaker 4: And of course they practice that a lot. You gott
Speaker 4: to wonder how often did they practice the fancy stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they certainly you've got to do that in this
Speaker 1: sport to have the confidence to run. And I don't
Speaker 1: know how much of any of that stuff they may
Speaker 1: try with a new quarterback. It's the interesting dynamic to
Speaker 1: this matchup, a true freshman making his first start in
Speaker 1: the governor's company. Jared started as a red shirt freshman,
Speaker 1: but there's never been a true freshman make his first
Speaker 1: start in this game for Kentucky. As somebody told me
Speaker 1: today that I think it was Teddy Bridgewater maybe as
Speaker 1: a true freshman that came in for an injured Louisville quarterback.
Speaker 1: I can't remember who it was and spark Louisville to
Speaker 1: a victory. So it's been done the other way, maybe
Speaker 1: with a freshman QB.
Speaker 4: What do you guys learn, if anything, watching Cutter last
Speaker 4: week down in Texas. I just thought that.
Speaker 8: The biggest thing that I learned was that it wasn't
Speaker 8: too big for him. I didn't think he'd be ready
Speaker 8: because he came from a small school, you know, and
Speaker 8: and he didn't play the Trinities and the Frederick Douglasses
Speaker 8: every week. He played small schools and a lot of
Speaker 8: times the speed of the game is so totally different.
Speaker 8: But this kid, it didn't phase him at all. I mean,
Speaker 8: he got crunched a couple times. To him, he gets
Speaker 8: sacked four times, he's on the run. Everything he jumps
Speaker 8: right back up and he's the cool thing that I saw.
Speaker 8: And I think Tom and I talked about this when
Speaker 8: you were going in. He was talking to the other
Speaker 8: team like guys that were like helping him up after
Speaker 8: they sacked him and stuff, and he was that doesn't
Speaker 8: happen with freshman because usually you're wide eyed out there,
Speaker 8: but he was.
Speaker 4: He was cool.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 4: Look at his first play.
Speaker 1: They fake it to the left and he turns and
Speaker 1: there's a Texas defensive end in his face sacking him.
Speaker 1: Very first play. Next option or next play, You've got
Speaker 1: multiple options on the on the play, so you know,
Speaker 1: if you some some freshman in that situation, might just
Speaker 1: get a quick easy completion here and settle my nerves down.
Speaker 1: And he throws the bomb to Barry and Brown and
Speaker 1: completes a big pass. And then Kentucky, you know, made
Speaker 1: some big plays. Unfortunate a couple of them were wiped
Speaker 1: out by penalties, but you know where he moved around
Speaker 1: in the pocket, kept a play alive by looking downfield.
Speaker 4: The one pass he.
Speaker 1: Threw that was brought back to Willie Rodriguez dropped it
Speaker 1: in perfectly in among some of those burnt orange jerseys,
Speaker 1: and those are you know, big time plays. And if
Speaker 1: he can continue to make those in this game, I
Speaker 1: would have to think Louisville's really gonna heat him up.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: And then that one he hit Mackins right on the
Speaker 8: note right, I mean right in his chest and he
Speaker 8: dropped it. I keep thinking, I've watched that play probably
Speaker 8: ten or twelve times. And when you're talking.
Speaker 1: About will the bomb, no the bomb to.
Speaker 8: Ol Barian Barrion, and I keep wondering, why did he
Speaker 8: go out of bounce, Why did he not turn to
Speaker 8: his left and go upfield?
Speaker 1: There was nobody in front of him, no one.
Speaker 8: And I keep going, what was he doing? It's interesting
Speaker 8: when I watched it again again, you've got rib injury.
Speaker 8: You don't want to get here. I mean that that hurts,
Speaker 8: but you know what, tomorrow, You know, we used to
Speaker 8: do things that make it not hurt that you're not
Speaker 8: allowed to do it anymore. But tomorrow you just play.
Speaker 8: I mean, because this is it. And I thought a
Speaker 8: cool thing. Uh did you hear Eli? I think Dick
Speaker 8: was there Eli yesterday talking to the media like yeah,
Speaker 8: he said, yeah, yeah, well he did play offensive line.
Speaker 4: Now Eli was on the sideline of Texas.
Speaker 8: Yes, Eli said, I keep reminding. Everybody stood up, and
Speaker 8: he spoke to the team. He goes, this is your
Speaker 8: last Monday practice. Tomorrow's the last Tuesday. Then you know,
Speaker 8: then it's the last Wednesday.
Speaker 4: This is it.
Speaker 8: We don't have a bowl game. This is the last
Speaker 8: couple of times where ever the bowl each other again. Yeah,
Speaker 8: So that's that really puts it in perspective for players
Speaker 8: when you think of that way, and it kind of
Speaker 8: makes you want to dig down even deeper for this game.
Speaker 1: As that was walking down like you would have spurred
Speaker 1: it on ahead you and I were finally got down
Speaker 1: to the field, and but we're one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: yards from the locker room, and so.
Speaker 4: Guys went right. I told you to go left.
Speaker 1: You had sprint it on because like you had to
Speaker 1: be on the air first. And as I'm walking down
Speaker 1: past at the fifty yard line, just Texas players sitting there. Yes,
Speaker 1: was backside taking it in, taking it in.
Speaker 4: I think it was hen Ter hell Hill.
Speaker 1: Tight end who had a tremendous year, but his last game.
Speaker 4: In last day, he's good too. Man. So now it's
Speaker 4: Senior Day at Kroger Field, and Senior Day day is
Speaker 4: taken taking on a new meaning. Well with a portal
Speaker 4: and nil. You may see a kid for one year
Speaker 4: and you never see him again. You may see im
Speaker 4: this first freshman year and you never see him again.
Speaker 4: And then you've got seniors. And this was the way
Speaker 4: it was in the past with red shirts, but now
Speaker 4: even more so, you may see seniors going through two
Speaker 4: or three different senior days because they had that additional
Speaker 4: year and an additional year and things like that. I
Speaker 4: think the COVID seasons are about over, but it's still
Speaker 4: going to be emotional. It's going to be cold, and
Speaker 4: it's going to be a noon kickoff, so I wonder
Speaker 4: what kind of crowd we will see for tailgating Saturday morning.
Speaker 4: But hey, it's the last game of the year. Why not.
Speaker 4: It's Louisville, why not? And I think it's going to
Speaker 4: be a good game, and why not be there when
Speaker 4: Cutter Bowley takes his first snap as a starting quarterback.
Speaker 4: And in this whip when you tune in, you can
Speaker 4: find it on my Facebook page and you'll find it
Speaker 4: on Friday via my Twitter feed and via the UK
Speaker 4: Sports Network Twitter feed. Jeff tells us what it's like
Speaker 4: to prepare as the starting QB, he sat in meetings
Speaker 4: as a former player, what it's like, what this week
Speaker 4: is like for Cutter Bowley with the starting job right
Speaker 4: there in his lap. So again, Wildcat Whip, watch for it.
Speaker 4: It should already be on my Facebook page or it'll
Speaker 4: be on Twitter coming up on Friday. I want to
Speaker 4: do this up next with Gary Moore, our West End
Speaker 4: Bureau Chief and our tribute to WKRP Turkey's Away. I'm
Speaker 4: six point thirty wager welcome back to the Big Blue
Speaker 4: and Cider. It is Wednesday, Thanksgiving Eve, but that means
Speaker 4: we will go to our favorite turkey. He is our
Speaker 4: West End Bureau chief, Gary Moore. At the other end
Speaker 4: of I sixty four, I resemble that he's got a
Speaker 4: list of topics you'd like to discuss.
Speaker 10: Hey, it's our big Black Friday. Two guys in a
Speaker 10: six pack sail on swigs six.
Speaker 4: For the price of squat.
Speaker 10: Of course that's our regular price. But never mind that.
Speaker 10: Now so here we are Dick our first wig rivalry
Speaker 10: week in college football. None bigger than these parts anyway
Speaker 10: than UK Louisville coming frigid Saturday, Kroger Field. You'll be
Speaker 10: there as usual with about eight layers of clothing on
Speaker 10: there For the Cats. You got senior Day, you got
Speaker 10: their only bowl game, and you got their big rivalry
Speaker 10: game all into one. You think they're gonna be amped
Speaker 10: up for this, Well, what about Louisville. Sure they had
Speaker 10: to blow out and get right last home game against
Speaker 10: the spiraling pit team. But I was still thinking to myself,
Speaker 10: which is my favorite way? Did they rid themselves of
Speaker 10: all their Stanford stupidity, of which there are copious amounts.
Speaker 10: The week before I say, nay, nay, last year over here,
Speaker 10: remember the cards came in hot ten and one.
Speaker 4: They just knocked one down in Miami. They even out.
Speaker 10: Passed and out rushed UK.
Speaker 4: Didn't matter.
Speaker 10: Louisville had three turnovers to UK's one, three penalties to
Speaker 10: UK's nine. You had a clean game last year, different year.
Speaker 10: I know some of the same players are still there,
Speaker 10: but even with freshman quarterback Cutter Bowlie starting, I still
Speaker 10: like the Cats by two.
Speaker 4: And by the way, that's.
Speaker 10: At noon right there, right here, WLAP and on the
Speaker 10: SEC network, which means, unfortunately we won't get TV play
Speaker 10: by play guy Joe Testatur for two consecutive week. Kids
Speaker 10: and Joe's dramatic style.
Speaker 4: Were every game, every play could be the biggest game.
Speaker 10: And this is the biggest play in college football this
Speaker 10: season in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4: Oh wait a minute, he fumbled. That is a flat.
Speaker 4: It's Joe Testatur. So anyway, what do you think? Well,
Speaker 4: first of all, I do like Joe, but after a while,
Speaker 4: I'm like Buddy, settled down.
Speaker 10: I know I like it too, but it.
Speaker 4: Also made me ask myself, am I not being excited
Speaker 4: enough on play by play? But you're fine, No, I
Speaker 4: think you're right. It comes down to turnovers. But It
Speaker 4: also comes down to the same thing when I go
Speaker 4: to games at U of L, my buddy and my
Speaker 4: brother who often sit together, I go visit him at
Speaker 4: halftime and they always say the same thing. Your linemen
Speaker 4: are so big, you know they'll win in the trenches.
Speaker 4: And Kentucky defensively has the edge on the line, but
Speaker 4: you just don't know what you're gonna get from the
Speaker 4: Kentucky o line. So yeah, this could come down to
Speaker 4: a last minute kick, second swig.
Speaker 10: Then you got my WKU Hilltoppers had control of their
Speaker 10: own Conference USA championship destiny can't stop the run dick
Speaker 10: in the last three weeks alone, Western's week d lines
Speaker 10: giving up nine hundred and twenty eight yards on the ground,
Speaker 10: three hundred nine yards a game the last three and
Speaker 10: who are they gonna be facing at home for their
Speaker 10: senior Day Saturday. The number one rushing team in the conference,
Speaker 10: number three Division one rushing team in America, Jacksonville State
Speaker 10: two hundred and sixty yards a game, even more than
Speaker 10: boys he has, so barring a sudden red wall defense,
Speaker 10: it's going to be a long cold day in Bowling Green.
Speaker 10: But you know we mentioned rivalry week. We got on
Speaker 10: Friday the Egg Bowl with State and Old mess God.
Speaker 10: I love seeing Kiffin lose on Saturday, it was so
Speaker 10: beautiful Georgia, Tech and Georgia. Then you go to Saturday,
Speaker 10: South Carolina and Clemson balls at Vandy, Michigan at Ohio's
Speaker 10: and Ohio State University Opered at Bama, Notre Dame at USC,
Speaker 10: Purdue at Indiana, and the real Biggie in the SEC
Speaker 10: for the first time in thirteen years, which is ridiculous
Speaker 10: because they ought to play every year.
Speaker 4: Texas at Texas.
Speaker 10: A and M Longhorns are actually five and a half
Speaker 10: point favorites, which I don't know about that. I think
Speaker 10: A and M might be serving a cold plate of
Speaker 10: revenge on this one. You also got Washington and Oregon.
Speaker 10: Those two schools hate each other. And by the way,
Speaker 10: good luck to EKU at Villanova on Saturday two o'clock
Speaker 10: ESPN plus in the Round one of the FCS.
Speaker 4: Yeah, finally back in the playoffs. And tell me the
Speaker 4: greatest football alum from Villanova do you know off the
Speaker 4: top of your head?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 4: How long I was gonna say? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talks
Speaker 4: about it every once in a while on the anchor desk.
Speaker 4: I come out there. I agree with you on that
Speaker 4: Texas A and M game. That's gonna be fun. A
Speaker 4: and M fled the Big twelve because it wanted a
Speaker 4: way from Texas, and then let's welcome Texas to the SEC.
Speaker 4: It's beautiful. But A and M is playing sneaky good.
Speaker 4: I think they're sneaky better than people believe. But Texas,
Speaker 4: I got a good look at him up front. Quinn
Speaker 4: Yours is not overwhelmingly great, but he's as good as
Speaker 4: he needs to be with that Texas team. So much
Speaker 4: talent on that team. I would love it if Vandy
Speaker 4: upsset at Tennessee. But Tennessee is playing really well right now,
Speaker 4: and I think Clemson is going to get South Carolina
Speaker 4: the fighting Beamers. That's right.
Speaker 10: A third twig and a six back Tomorrow being Thanksgiving,
Speaker 10: not one, not two, but three NFL games of first
Speaker 10: at twelve thirty on CBS, the Bears at Detroit Lions
Speaker 10: ten and a half point favorites, four point thirty on
Speaker 10: Fox soft as f Giants at Dallas Dallas four point favorites,
Speaker 10: and then at eight twenty on NBC Miami trading sunshine
Speaker 10: and highs in the eighties, for light, snow and below
Speaker 10: freezing temperatures at lambeau Field, and your Packers only three
Speaker 10: point favorites at this point, is that right?
Speaker 4: They'll win by more than that.
Speaker 10: All three home teams are favorite, obviously, and it says
Speaker 10: here that they will all three are gonna win. But
Speaker 10: I'm hoping that the Giants will play hard as f
Speaker 10: against them boys.
Speaker 4: So three tomorrow?
Speaker 10: How about these three On Sunday Dick Steelers up I
Speaker 10: seventy five at the Bengals, since he's two and a
Speaker 10: half point favorite in that one, Eagles at the Ravens.
Speaker 10: You got Baltimore's three point favorite in that one. And
Speaker 10: Sunday night the Niners and the at the Bills. Buffalo
Speaker 10: is seven point favorite. The big question, though, I ask
Speaker 10: you how much attention will you be paying to the
Speaker 10: TV versus the family tomorrow?
Speaker 4: Well, fortunately, my nephew is a huge Green Bay fan,
Speaker 4: but we'll probably be on the way home from my
Speaker 4: sister's house by the time the Packers play. But yeah,
Speaker 4: you've got it's always a division in the house. You've
Speaker 4: got in the big room. Right over here is everybody
Speaker 4: glued to the TV, and right over he is everybody
Speaker 4: doing the yaking and gabbing and gossiping, so it's no
Speaker 4: big deal. Yeah, you gotta like the Lions. You gotta
Speaker 4: like the Packers, even though Miami's better, I think, better
Speaker 4: than people think. But I don't think they'll handle it
Speaker 4: up north. You know, this Cowboys Giants game is so
Speaker 4: meaningless and yet meaningfull given what those teams are going through,
Speaker 4: especially at quarterback. And wouldn't it be funny if Tommy
Speaker 4: Cutletz jumped up and beat the Cowboys on Thanksgiving Day?
Speaker 4: I mean, it's sort of what a mess with a
Speaker 4: Giant's game. They let Saquon go and re sign Daniel Jones,
Speaker 4: and now they'll be drafting another quarterback.
Speaker 10: It's Jones is going to Minnesota. Now Minnesota thought, hey
Speaker 10: we could use a guy like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, need a backup. But it's a primer on how
Speaker 4: to mishandle the quarterback situation at a franchise that is
Speaker 4: better than that. Frankly, Steelers Bengals. The Steelers just don't
Speaker 4: score a lot and the Bengals do, but the Bengals
Speaker 4: give up points. So I don't know what to make
Speaker 4: of that one. And yeah, the Niners, Baltimore Niners are
Speaker 4: so banged up, and the Ravens are back on track.
Speaker 4: So I like the Ravens in that one porth swig
Speaker 4: and a six pack. Okay, stalk hoops.
Speaker 10: Your alma mater beat my alma mater rapp Arena last
Speaker 10: night eighty seven sixty eight. I think the Toppers played
Speaker 10: the Cats pretty hard though, just too many missshots. Four
Speaker 10: for twenty six from the threes and the two seat
Speaker 10: in your guards you thought would at least help him out.
Speaker 10: McHenry and Lander combined four for twenty eight total of
Speaker 10: eleven points with those who. In fact, Lander was one
Speaker 10: for twelve. He used to be a really great guard
Speaker 10: at one In fact, he was a high school star
Speaker 10: down in Evansville. But I still saw some good signs
Speaker 10: that the Toppers may get into they may mold into
Speaker 10: a good team by March. Despite some of those horrific
Speaker 10: shots last night. They're home against Marshall on Saturday, down
Speaker 10: at Diddle Arena, Cats in Georgia State Friday. Then you
Speaker 10: go over to Clemson for that acc SEC deal on Tuesday.
Speaker 10: Then a week from Saturday in Seattle, we know what happens.
Speaker 10: Number eight UK, number three Gonzaga, and now I want
Speaker 10: shifting gears slightly.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 10: You may be familiar Dick with a great group out
Speaker 10: of England called Radiohead. Back in nineteen ninety seven, they
Speaker 10: had a great album called Okay Computer and a song
Speaker 10: on there called Karma Police. I bring this up because
Speaker 10: yesterday in Maui, the Karma Police cited Danny Hothead Hurley,
Speaker 10: resulting in his Huskies blowing a nine point lead and
Speaker 10: losing in two days, the second time in two days
Speaker 10: to an unranked team, and he got the dubious honor
Speaker 10: of his team playing for the seventh place in the
Speaker 10: Maui Invitational.
Speaker 4: Where it happened in.
Speaker 10: Exactly, going berserk at the refs on Monday, costing his
Speaker 10: team the loss in overtime and then popping off about
Speaker 10: the officiating and as well as a Memphis player, he
Speaker 10: had nothing nice to say about that one guy who's
Speaker 10: trying to get the rebound afterwards. Shows that Hurley made
Speaker 10: the right decision to stay in college, don't you think,
Speaker 10: Because that kind of crazy belligerence does not play with
Speaker 10: grown ass men and eighty two games in the NBA,
Speaker 10: now does it.
Speaker 4: Now he loses his mind and he then he loses team.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, you're right about that. But yeah, your Toppers
Speaker 4: I thought played well, played with confidence, and yes, got
Speaker 4: good shots, some of them open. This didn't go down,
Speaker 4: you know. And when you look back on this wall,
Speaker 4: Kentucky must have played great defense. It played, it played
Speaker 4: good defense. But Western Kentucky just missed a lot of opportunities.
Speaker 4: But it was a ragged kind of ugly game, not
Speaker 4: from poor play, but just these teams getting into each other.
Speaker 4: I think both teams will benefit from this game down
Speaker 4: the stretch. I think it gave probably the Toppers some confidence.
Speaker 4: You know, we went into up and for a while
Speaker 4: there made a game out of it more than any
Speaker 4: other team. But Duke so far with Kentucky, just.
Speaker 10: Don't miss eight or eleven shots in a row against a.
Speaker 4: Team like Kentucky. That'sact Kentucky size. Kentucky size just overwhelmed
Speaker 4: your guys absolutely.
Speaker 10: Fittswig and the six pack, all right. Former West Coast
Speaker 10: basketball dynasty UCLA finally has a number one basketball team.
Speaker 10: Only ain't the men, which probably pisses off another noted
Speaker 10: hothead coach, min Cronan over there on the men's side,
Speaker 10: thanks to their resounding pounding of former number one defending
Speaker 10: champion South Carolina. The UCLA women are the top spot
Speaker 10: in women's polls. That seventy seven to sixty two win
Speaker 10: for the Bruins on Sunday happened before he sold out
Speaker 10: Pauley Pavilion crowd of thirteen thousand, six hundred and fifty nine.
Speaker 10: UCLA's men, on the other hand, have not only not
Speaker 10: sold out any home games against the likes of Lehigh
Speaker 10: or Idaho State games that are all but guaranteed wins.
Speaker 10: You think the fans would definitely want to go out
Speaker 10: and see something like that. UCLA has even gotten fifty
Speaker 10: two hundred for a game, yet they averaged just over
Speaker 10: forty six hundred a game. Scheduling pushovers early in the
Speaker 10: season has not been a problem for uk attendance wise,
Speaker 10: or for Yukon or Kansas or North Carolina or you
Speaker 10: know what, especially Louisville over here and they've got an
Speaker 10: off campus young Center for their court. Cards are average
Speaker 10: dick over thirteen thousand, four hundred after four home games,
Speaker 10: but UCLA. UCLA, in a metro area of some thirteen
Speaker 10: million with several hundred thousand alums, can't even get five
Speaker 10: thousand for a game. And while we're on the subject,
Speaker 10: what about my Hilltoppers. After four games, Western still hasn't
Speaker 10: had more than forty six hundred show up, and they've
Speaker 10: averaged twenty four just over twenty four hundred for the
Speaker 10: last three home games alone at these two famous basketball schools.
Speaker 10: I ask you, is this apathy or lack of marketing
Speaker 10: to students in the lums, combination of both something else.
Speaker 4: I like to know how the Western Knentuckuy women are drawing.
Speaker 4: But to compare the two, one is relatively rural compared
Speaker 4: of course to UCLA. But Gary for years, when you
Speaker 4: were out there and you and I would communicate, you
Speaker 4: were so angry as a basketball junkie when you went
Speaker 4: to cover UCLA games that they didn't draw when they
Speaker 4: had really good contending teams always out of UCLA as
Speaker 4: a neighborhoods school Westwood. We all know that's a Lakers town.
Speaker 4: But you're right they ought to draw more than that,
Speaker 4: especially when the women draw the way they did. But
Speaker 4: we've talked about the growth of women's basketball so far.
Speaker 4: I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 10: Sixth and final swig our friends at Awful Announcing had
Speaker 10: a headline Dick that hit home with me the other
Speaker 10: day because this hits home with my career in radio.
Speaker 4: Quote.
Speaker 10: Add incessant commercials to the list of Fox Big Noon complaints.
Speaker 4: It goes on.
Speaker 10: Despite putting up huge ratings numbers, college football fans continue
Speaker 10: to balk at the notion of noon eastern kickoffs. However,
Speaker 10: you can add a new complaint following Saturday's Big ten
Speaker 10: showdown between Ohio State and Indiana. Not only did it
Speaker 10: turn into an early blowout, but the game itself seemed
Speaker 10: to become something that occurred only between commercials. There was
Speaker 10: a lot of social media complaints about the number and
Speaker 10: length of the commercial breaks there. It's the same problem
Speaker 10: I've had with college and pro football for years. Even
Speaker 10: it's even worse now, I think with the networks that
Speaker 10: have overpaid for the broadcast rights and then they're trying
Speaker 10: to make up the expenditures with added commercials, and you know,
Speaker 10: the same things happen with radio. Sometimes. At KYLA we
Speaker 10: had we had ten minute commercial breaks on radio. You're
Speaker 10: not gonna sit through half of that. Thankfully we got
Speaker 10: the NFL red zone commercial free stuff. I'm just waiting
Speaker 10: for somebody to do the same thing with college football.
Speaker 10: I'll sign up for that in the New York millisecond.
Speaker 10: But you you have withstood more TV timeouts than anyone
Speaker 10: else being on the ground on those game days where
Speaker 10: you had to sit and wait or stand and wait, wait,
Speaker 10: wait for the action. I ask you, are there too
Speaker 10: many of these TV timeouts? And will they get even longer?
Speaker 10: And will there be more of them go longer than
Speaker 10: maybe three minutes plus than we have now as we
Speaker 10: get into the.
Speaker 4: Course, as the rights fees balloon, that's the way to
Speaker 4: get their money back. Ask for Foxy. They brag about
Speaker 4: the audiences they're getting for Big Noon, so if they can,
Speaker 4: they'll they'll capitalize on those numbers, cram in more spots
Speaker 4: at a premium rate, and we all suffer for it.
Speaker 4: Gary Moore is our Western bureau chief. We'll come back
Speaker 4: with some hot regions. Just a minute here on six
Speaker 4: thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big Blue and Sider.
Speaker 4: We're talking with Gary Moore. He is our West End
Speaker 4: bureau chief. You've heard two guys at a six pack
Speaker 4: time for a couple of hot reads. Gary. I don't
Speaker 4: know if you saw it, but I directed you to
Speaker 4: the video. This was after a cal Win talking about
Speaker 4: football in Berkeley, the equipment manager for Cal standing on
Speaker 4: the sidelines standing watch, and a fan quote unquote kind
Speaker 4: of saunters up looking this way, but then suddenly he
Speaker 4: looks that way, steals a jersey and runs off at
Speaker 4: top speed. The manager saw it, took off running, tackled
Speaker 4: the guy, got the jersey back. I think this guy
Speaker 4: would be given a varsity letter for that.
Speaker 10: I think I enjoyed that as much as I enjoyed
Speaker 10: when he was in front of the They did a
Speaker 10: breakdown of what happened in front. I don't know if
Speaker 10: you saw this in front of the team, but the
Speaker 10: team was watching film.
Speaker 4: They brought him back in and.
Speaker 10: They replayed the whole thing, and all the players stood
Speaker 10: up and went crazy when he tackled the guy.
Speaker 4: Just taking it up as flawless. It was a beautiful thing. Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, these guys were just like cheering them on.
Speaker 4: That's great.
Speaker 10: I mean, it's bad enough they're gonna they're gonna storm
Speaker 10: the field. But you know, stuff like this has probably
Speaker 10: happened at some other places. But a good friend of
Speaker 10: ours is the equipment used to be the equipment manager
Speaker 10: for Oregon, Oh After several years.
Speaker 4: These guys have got hawkeyes.
Speaker 10: Yeah, they're watching any kind of stuff like that, you know,
Speaker 10: whether they're behind the stands or people are yelling stuff
Speaker 10: or they're throwing stuff. Much less you're gonna come down there.
Speaker 10: They will guard this stuff like a hawk.
Speaker 4: Yep. Finally coming up next in our final segment, as
Speaker 4: we make way early for UK women's basketball, My tribute
Speaker 4: to Turkeys Away the episode at w Caripeine, Cincinnati, and
Speaker 4: everybody knows what happens in it, but it's it's so
Speaker 4: classic and and uh, I know, I love that show
Speaker 4: and I came to it late, probably when it was
Speaker 4: in reruns. I was working in radio and Your Life's
Speaker 4: been radio. But that was just another There were so
Speaker 4: many great episodes. I mean, they did an episode after
Speaker 4: based on the Who Concert where people actually lost their
Speaker 4: lives and had this finesse it through the network. But
Speaker 4: it was hilarious and it wasn't totally accurate. No, they
Speaker 4: didn't wear headphones, you know, but it was so representative
Speaker 4: every character of someone everybody knew in radio. We could
Speaker 4: all relate. Well.
Speaker 10: I think some of the people involved with it. I
Speaker 10: believe Hugh Wilson was one of the creators, and he
Speaker 10: worked at WQXI in Atlanta from what I remember, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 10: and Quick See and Dixie and he had some some
Speaker 10: input obviously, so there was there was some roots in it.
Speaker 10: But I was working for WBGN and Bowling Green when
Speaker 10: I was going to WKU at the same time, and like,
Speaker 10: this show's a revelation and it's a show that the
Speaker 10: guys in the radio business, how cool is this? And
Speaker 10: I absolutely loved it. And when I would come up
Speaker 10: to Lexington and hear you guys and that could pick
Speaker 10: up w k r C. Yes, is this the station?
Speaker 10: Is this like a part of one of the stations?
Speaker 10: And here how professional it was? It just furthered my
Speaker 10: interest in radio. It kind of got me going.
Speaker 4: And you being such a music guy, you had to
Speaker 4: like the music. They got rights to play some decent music,
Speaker 4: little clips of it that doctor Johnny Fever would play.
Speaker 4: And what I loved about that characters They added Mug
Speaker 4: with all his air names, you know, and we all
Speaker 4: knew about that. Yeah, we all knew people. I room
Speaker 4: with a guy, uh he just passed Sally not long ago.
Speaker 4: But and you knew him. You work with him. Robert Lindsay,
Speaker 4: but a program director who hired him said, ah, that's
Speaker 4: not how about you be the real Neil Steele.
Speaker 10: And that's what he was, I know, to take up
Speaker 10: to take up on the real Don Steele exact Los
Speaker 10: Angeles exactly. Yeah, Robert Radio Radio, Robert, Yeah, oh man.
Speaker 4: I so enjoyed it. But even people who aren't huge
Speaker 4: fans of the show, I guarantee you they know the
Speaker 4: payoff line and what happened at the end and there's
Speaker 4: you know, with a turkey drop and all that. And
Speaker 4: you'll learn more in my next segment about the history
Speaker 4: of a turkey drop that inspired this episode. Really. Yes
Speaker 4: it wasn't out of a helicopter, but something like that
Speaker 4: really happened, and that Atlanta station you talked about was
Speaker 4: involved in a way. So that's coming up next. Please
Speaker 4: stay tuned for that. But also say thank you to Gary,
Speaker 4: our West End bureau chief, who can be seen and
Speaker 4: found and heard on Twitter at at nine to five
Speaker 4: to five.
Speaker 10: Gary, and you are on the same platform thing whatever
Speaker 10: it is.
Speaker 4: Now Bluegrass, Big Blue Insider One. Have a great holiday,
Speaker 4: Happy Thanksgiving. Up next to tribute to WKRPS turkey episode,
Speaker 4: and then we'll make way for UK women's basketball, all
Speaker 4: the Wildcats in Illinois coming up with Darren Heddrick on
Speaker 4: the call his pregame at seven forty five. Here on
Speaker 4: six thirty WLAP Welcome back to the Big Blue inside here.
Speaker 4: This is the final segment because we're gonna make way
Speaker 4: for Darren Hedrick and UK women's basketball as the Wildcats
Speaker 4: take on Illinois in the Music City Classic down in Nashville.
Speaker 4: This is played at Treveca Nazarene University's Trojan Field House.
Speaker 4: So we're gonna jump out of here and Darren will
Speaker 4: have pregame coming up in a couple of minutes. But
Speaker 4: as promised, I wanted to leave you with everybody's favorite.
Speaker 4: This is from the Turkeys Away episode of WKRP in Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: It is considered one of the most famous, revered episodes
Speaker 4: of the show and really in all of the history
Speaker 4: of sitcoms, and in fact, in nineteen ninety seven, TV
Speaker 4: Guide ranked Turkeys Away episode at number forty on its
Speaker 4: one hundred Greatest Episodes of All Time. Twenty nine it
Speaker 4: was moved down to sixty five. I don't know where
Speaker 4: it is now within one hundred greatest episodes, but it's
Speaker 4: got to be up there. It's got to be up there.
Speaker 4: Back in ninety seven, the very first at the top
Speaker 4: of the list was the Mary Tyler Moore Show Chuckles
Speaker 4: bites the dust And you know, I don't know what's
Speaker 4: on top now. You'd have a hard time replacing that
Speaker 4: one as number one. But Turkey's Away belongs on the
Speaker 4: top one hundred list to me, forever and for all time.
Speaker 4: And you know the story WKRP, the station in Cincinnati
Speaker 4: that featured doctor Johnny Fever and Venus fly Trap and
Speaker 4: les Nessman and Bailey Quarters. They decided they would thanks
Speaker 4: to the Big Guy, Arthur Carlson stage Thanksgiving promotion. Right,
Speaker 4: and so the Less goes to report on it in
Speaker 4: a live remote and you hear doctor Johnny Fever talking
Speaker 4: it too, Less out in the field, and what comes
Speaker 4: next is radio magic and its history. Less.
Speaker 1: You're still there, yes, Johnny, you see anything yet?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 5: No, there's quite a crowd, though. Where's the big guy.
Speaker 3: I don't know where Carlson is, but we're coming to
Speaker 3: you right after this record.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, no problem, I can have one.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's real close.
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, fellow babies and Now it's time to
Speaker 3: go to our live remote man on the scene at
Speaker 3: the Pinedale Shopping Mall for the big WKRP Turkey giveaway.
Speaker 10: So take it away, less Ness Man.
Speaker 5: This is less Ness Wan. You're man on the scene
Speaker 5: here at the Pinedale Shopping Center with the excitement is
Speaker 5: mounting wave here to witness the big wk on nel
Speaker 5: Rookie Thanksgiving giveaway.
Speaker 4: You got permission to be out here? What you're blocking
Speaker 4: my store here? Buddy?
Speaker 5: Don't you know who I am? Huh, I'm less Nessmund.
Speaker 5: I won the Buckeye Newshook Ward last year for you,
Speaker 5: buck guy, and now get out of my doorway. I'm sorry,
Speaker 5: it's freep door far so good. I hear hundreds of
Speaker 5: people who have gathered to witness what has been described
Speaker 5: as perhaps the greatest Turkey event and Thanksgiving dang is great.
Speaker 5: All we know for sure is that in a very
Speaker 5: few moments they're going to be a lot of happy
Speaker 5: people out here. Now the crowd is the crowd is uh, curious,
Speaker 5: but well behaved. And I think I hear something now
Speaker 5: the crowd is moving out into the parking area and
Speaker 5: oh yes, I can see it now. It's a it's
Speaker 5: a hell a copter and it's coming this way. It's
Speaker 5: flying something behind it. I can't quite make it out.
Speaker 5: It's a large banner and it says, uh, happy things kidy.
Speaker 4: From you. Hey, what a sight?
Speaker 8: It is, just what a sight.
Speaker 5: The cupter seems to be circling in the parking area
Speaker 5: now I guess it's looking for a place to land. No,
Speaker 5: something just came out of the back of the helicopter.
Speaker 5: It's a dark object, perhaps a skydiver, plumbing too to
Speaker 5: the earth, only two thousand feet of the air, second
Speaker 5: to the third.
Speaker 4: There's no hursh you.
Speaker 5: Yet, you can't be skydivers. I can't not your cat
Speaker 5: what they are.
Speaker 4: But oh my god, they're turnkey. Get this.
Speaker 5: They're crunching to the earth right right, always gonna wandering
Speaker 5: to win you hot hard.
Speaker 8: It's colors running.
Speaker 5: Around pushing each other.
Speaker 4: Oh my, oh but you moment in.
Speaker 5: Lemming at Bobs the turkeys are hitting the ground like
Speaker 5: sets of wet semans.
Speaker 1: Site.
Speaker 5: I don't know how much longer there you try is
Speaker 5: running for their lives.
Speaker 4: Why did I go to stepping site? I can't stay
Speaker 4: up here and watch the city, as you know, I
Speaker 4: can't go in. There hasn't been anything like that.
Speaker 5: I don't know how much longer I can all my
Speaker 5: division here, Johnny.
Speaker 9: The last last are you there?
Speaker 4: Less?
Speaker 3: Isn't there?
Speaker 9: Thanks for that? On the spot report last.
Speaker 3: Both just tuned in the finale shopping mall has just
Speaker 3: been bombed with Mill and eleven.
Speaker 4: Then you cut to the last scene where let's return
Speaker 4: to the station, followed by Arthur Carl's scenes with the
Speaker 4: famous last line.
Speaker 5: Are you okay?
Speaker 4: I don't know? The man and his two children tried
Speaker 4: to kill me.
Speaker 5: After the turkeys hit the pavement, the crowd kind of scattered,
Speaker 5: but some of them tried to attack me, told jam
Speaker 5: myself into a phone booth. Then mister Carlson had the
Speaker 5: helicopter land in the middle of the parking lot. I
Speaker 5: guess he thought he could save the day by turning
Speaker 5: the rest of the turkeys loose. It's pretty strange. After that, all,
Speaker 5: let's come on, I'll tell us the rest. I really
Speaker 5: don't know how to describe it. It was like the
Speaker 5: turkeys mounted a counter attack. It was almost as if
Speaker 5: they were organized. As God is my witness. I thought
Speaker 5: turkeys could fly.
Speaker 4: Now, believe it or not, this was based on a
Speaker 4: true story, although it's debated as to where it happened.
Speaker 4: Some people people believe it happened at an Atlanta radio
Speaker 4: station WQXI. They called it Quicksie, and that the general
Speaker 4: manager character was based in part of the guy named
Speaker 4: Jerry Bloom. But Bloom's son Gary said that this was
Speaker 4: not It didn't happen at the Atlanta station, but his
Speaker 4: dad had worked at a station in Dallas in the
Speaker 4: fifties and they did a turkey drop, or actually they
Speaker 4: threw them off the back of a flatbed truck and
Speaker 4: things did not go really well. And by the way,
Speaker 4: the famous line at the end was actually a take
Speaker 4: on something that Bloom told the Atlanta Journal Constitution in
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety six. He actually said, I didn't know turkeys
Speaker 4: couldn't fly, which of course inspired Arthur Carlson's famous line.
Speaker 4: But I did want to share that with you as
Speaker 4: we headed into the Thanksgiving weekend, and I thought I
Speaker 4: had heard someplace that this was based on an event
Speaker 4: that actually did happen, but wasn't the entire sure where.
Speaker 4: But yeah, the Internet's got it. Although, as we said,
Speaker 4: some believe it happened in Atlanta, but the man who
Speaker 4: worked at both stations, both the WQXI and at the
Speaker 4: station in Dallas, said no, it happened in Dallas, but
Speaker 4: they did something else in Atlanta. But the turkey drop,
Speaker 4: which was actually off the back of a truck, happened
Speaker 4: in Dallas in the fifties. And by the way, WQXI
Speaker 4: and Atlanta still exists as a Korean language station, which
Speaker 4: I thought was pretty interesting. We're going to get out
Speaker 4: of the way and make room for Darren Headwick's pregame
Speaker 4: coming up. It's the UK Women taking on Illinois down
Speaker 4: in Nashville, part of the Music City Classic. And then
Speaker 4: of course on Friday, it's Kentucky the Men back home
Speaker 4: in rubb aerna At taking on at Georgia State at
Speaker 4: seven o'clock. We'll have them before you right here. So
Speaker 4: my thanks to you, have a great holiday, Be safe everybody.
Speaker 4: That's a good night from the garage in Lexington.
Speaker 5: As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could.
Speaker 2: Fly and
Speaker 4: Names