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<v Speaker 1>Oh, guess what day it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what day it is?

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<v Speaker 3>Huh?

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<v Speaker 4>Anybody?

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<v Speaker 5>It's hump Day.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, it is hump Day. It is also the eve

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<v Speaker 4>of Thanksgiving. Welcome to the Big Bloon Sider, Dick Gabriel

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<v Speaker 4>with you. What a busy week men's basketball, women's basketball, football,

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<v Speaker 4>with a U OFL game coming up, all the national

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<v Speaker 4>stuff going on in a holiday, So I want to

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<v Speaker 4>jump right in and tell you that tomorrow night, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>we will have a best of show at being a holiday,

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<v Speaker 4>but if you're traveling, if you're in the car, turn

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<v Speaker 4>that radio on right here, because it's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>the best of the Big Blue Sider. But we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to take you back to the first conversation I had

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<v Speaker 4>personally via phone. I didn't have him in the garage,

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<v Speaker 4>but Mark Pope says, at least at some point he

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<v Speaker 4>will visit us here as long as we have cookies,

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<v Speaker 4>and we have assured and we will. But we will

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<v Speaker 4>have portions of that conversation with Mark, and then we

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<v Speaker 4>will replay our recent interview with Cameron Mills. Not just

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<v Speaker 4>because Cameron and I are buddies and we get silly

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<v Speaker 4>on the radio, but this was the conversation we had

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<v Speaker 4>the day after the Duke game, so he came by

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<v Speaker 4>the garage as he always does, and we broke things down. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>they played since then, but so much of what we

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<v Speaker 4>talked about that day is still relevant, even maybe more

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<v Speaker 4>relevant since we've seen the Wildcats play again and so

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<v Speaker 4>of you. So that's for tomorrow night. But tonight this

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<v Speaker 4>is a great one. We've got first of our Western

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<v Speaker 4>Bureau Chief, Gary Moore, as always on a Wednesday night,

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<v Speaker 4>but we have Keith Madison, the UK baseball coach, who

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<v Speaker 4>has written a new book just in time for the holidays,

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<v Speaker 4>stocking stuffers. Think about that. We're gonna talk about Stevie

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<v Speaker 4>Johnson because we're on the eve of the U of

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<v Speaker 4>L game, and that's of course the day we're back

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty oh seven on my birthday. No less, STEVEE

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<v Speaker 4>got loose and made everybody happy in Commonwealth State who's

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<v Speaker 4>wearing blue? And I bring up Stevie as well because

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<v Speaker 4>he will open our broadcast on Saturday, the final game

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<v Speaker 4>of the year. Sadly, but if you've been following along

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<v Speaker 4>and we appreciate it, you know that we have had

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<v Speaker 4>a different celebrity player former coach civilian, if you will

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<v Speaker 4>even still open the broadcast for us. In fact, Josh Hopkins,

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<v Speaker 4>an actor from Lexington who lives in Austin now, opened

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<v Speaker 4>last week's broadcast. Well, Stevie will open things up for

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<v Speaker 4>us this Saturday, and he did a tremendous job. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>working on putting it together right now. You will really

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<v Speaker 4>enjoy what you hear from Stevie. So, yeah, we've got

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<v Speaker 4>a lot going on this week. But let's look at

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<v Speaker 4>last night's Kentucky basketball game. I went over Western Kentucky

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<v Speaker 4>that was probably tougher than most people expected, even though

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<v Speaker 4>WKU was an nca Tournament team last year. And they're good, man,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you saw him last night. The Hilltoppers are good.

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<v Speaker 4>After the game, Hank plan out of the Western Kentucky coach,

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<v Speaker 4>talked a lot, of course about his team and about

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<v Speaker 4>Kentucky and how challenging it is to try to guard

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<v Speaker 4>the Wildcats, who are really good on the inside and

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<v Speaker 4>the outside.

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<v Speaker 6>They got four guys on the floor they can shoot

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<v Speaker 6>at all times. There's always at least one guy that's

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<v Speaker 6>among the best three point shooters in college basketball. So

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<v Speaker 6>they stretch you out a little bit and we were

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<v Speaker 6>trying to pressure while protecting the rim. You know, they

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<v Speaker 6>were slipping and cutting to the basket quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 6>So their offense is very is very difficult to pose.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a lot of challenges, to be perfectly honest with

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<v Speaker 4>And talking about Kentucky's offense, Plana talked about the way

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<v Speaker 4>the Wildcats execute, about how quickly they get things done

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<v Speaker 4>this early in the season.

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<v Speaker 6>They execute very very well. I mean they they cut

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<v Speaker 6>to the basket at full speed so that you know

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<v Speaker 6>when you stretch out and guard the line. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>they're not just running their patterns. They're running their patterns,

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<v Speaker 6>changing the speed, changing directions at a very very high level.

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<v Speaker 4>And the follow up on that, Hank Plona, the Western

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<v Speaker 4>Kentucky coach, said, what's really impressive, at least to him,

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<v Speaker 4>changing speeds, communicating all that intricate stuff. And it's happening

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<v Speaker 4>now here in November, not down the stretch heading into

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<v Speaker 4>tournament season.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, credit to them is not a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>teams look quite like that on November twenty sixth, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I think by January February March. I think a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of teams get to that point, but you know, they

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<v Speaker 6>put a new group of people together. Those guys to

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<v Speaker 6>cut like that, you have to be unselfish, you have

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<v Speaker 6>to be team oriented, you have to be playing for

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<v Speaker 6>the name on the front of their jersey, and man,

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<v Speaker 6>they've they've certainly come together and formed that identity very

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<v Speaker 6>very fast.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's Hank Plana, the Western Kentucky coach. While we're

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<v Speaker 4>talking about basketball, we need to talk, of course about

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<v Speaker 4>the UK women. They ran their record to six and

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<v Speaker 4>oher by knocking off Arizona State in the Music City Classic,

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<v Speaker 4>and in fact, Game two of that series for the

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<v Speaker 4>Wildcats comes up tonight. That's why we'll be off at

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<v Speaker 4>seven forty five. Darren Edwick was pregame as the Cats

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<v Speaker 4>take on Illinois this evening. But Kenny Brooks's ball club,

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<v Speaker 4>he's in his first season with the Cats. Of course,

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<v Speaker 4>he has Kentucky six to zero for the first time

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<v Speaker 4>since twenty twenty one. They won each of their first

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<v Speaker 4>six games of the season by at least ten points,

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<v Speaker 4>and for the second straight game, two players had at

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<v Speaker 4>least twenty in the game. Clara Strack had twenty four

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<v Speaker 4>Georgia Amore had twenty Kentucky blocked ten shots. After the game,

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<v Speaker 4>Brooks said, you know what we might lack in the

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<v Speaker 4>lateral quickness, we make up for in verticality, basically in height.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is the fifth time this year already UK

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<v Speaker 4>has recorded at least ten block shots, sixty eight on

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<v Speaker 4>the season. Gets this, Kentucky needs just one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>fourteen more to break the team record, which was set

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<v Speaker 4>in thirty six games back in twenty twelve. Thirteen Cats

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<v Speaker 4>held Arizona State to no field goals for the first

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<v Speaker 4>seven minutes and sixteen seconds the second quarter. So all

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<v Speaker 4>that height clearly intimidating the sun devils. So again tonight,

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<v Speaker 4>UK Illinois will have it for you right here. Darren

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<v Speaker 4>Hedrick with pregame at seven forty five, shift you over

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<v Speaker 4>to football real quickly. It is Louisville week. As we said,

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<v Speaker 4>Cutter Bowley gets his first start. And somebody asked Marx

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<v Speaker 4>Tubes about the fact that the players seem to rally

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<v Speaker 4>around the big guy.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, he's just got that, he's got that feel, he's

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<v Speaker 7>got the Moxie's the type of guy he gets along

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<v Speaker 7>with absolutely everybody on the team. He fits in with everybody.

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<v Speaker 7>He's He's just got a very good personality that way.

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<v Speaker 7>I think they know he's got that moxie or swagger

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<v Speaker 7>or whatever you want to call it. That when he

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<v Speaker 7>and and you know he sees the feed failed well

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<v Speaker 7>as you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, it was hard not to notice the difference, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>a makeshift offensive line, and it just it clearly, it

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<v Speaker 4>looks like it's gotten into his head a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess. I guess Cutter Bowlly, being a freshman, doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>know what he's not supposed to know. He just looks

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<v Speaker 4>more like a veteran because he's so cool, calm and

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<v Speaker 4>collected in the pocket. And Stoops said it was obviously

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<v Speaker 4>noticeable in the Texas game one play, in particular, in a.

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<v Speaker 7>Tough environment against the top you know, five team in

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<v Speaker 7>a little ground and throw it to a space. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not sure TV does it justice.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't see the TV copy, but you know, I

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<v Speaker 7>look at it on film and you see the way

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<v Speaker 7>he had the awareness, the presence that he was calm,

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<v Speaker 7>backed up and threw it to an open space. It

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<v Speaker 7>was pretty impressive play. And you know there's many more

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<v Speaker 7>like that in there. I'd like to see us give

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<v Speaker 7>more efficiently. And the same goes.

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<v Speaker 4>For so Cutter Bowley. We'll get the start. Will we

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<v Speaker 4>see Brock Vandergriff against Louisville. Don't know, whatever does happen,

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<v Speaker 4>you'll hear it right here. On six thirty WLAP pregame

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<v Speaker 4>covered starts local coverage of nine am. Oh yep, kegs

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<v Speaker 4>and eggs gonna be cold too, ten am Network pregame

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<v Speaker 4>with Christy Logan and Jeremy and then noon kickoff Tom Leach,

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<v Speaker 4>jeffiicor on Yours truly for the Cats and the Cards,

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<v Speaker 4>UK riding that six game winning streak. Up next, we'll

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<v Speaker 4>talk more football. And here's a little tease for you

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<v Speaker 4>coming up in hour number two. At the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the show, our last segment going into UK women's basketball,

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<v Speaker 4>we are going to revisit one of the greatest episodes

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<v Speaker 4>in sitcom history, and this being Thanksgiving week, here's a

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<v Speaker 4>little teaser for you.

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<v Speaker 5>It's flying something behind it I Tacklin make it out.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a large bunner and it says, get the things.

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<v Speaker 4>From w That's right. We're gonna talk about the episode

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<v Speaker 4>Turkey's Away, and if you know anything about that show,

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<v Speaker 4>in our number two stay with us here on six

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<v Speaker 4>point thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big Boonsider. Coming

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<v Speaker 4>up in our second hour, West n Bureau Chief Gary Moore,

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<v Speaker 4>and our tribute to one of the greatest episodes in

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<v Speaker 4>the history of sitcom TV, Turkey's Away from WKRP in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 4>But we've got some stuff to discuss, first of all,

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<v Speaker 4>but Colorado beating Yukon, second ranked team in the country

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<v Speaker 4>and Danny Hurley going off on the sidelines once again,

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<v Speaker 4>and he has really taken a lot of flak for

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<v Speaker 4>that as well he should. He says, it's the second

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<v Speaker 4>time he has gone ballistic on the sidelines over the officials. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I know coaches have troubles with refs, but this is

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<v Speaker 4>kind of ridiculous. Kansas beats Duke seventy five, seventy two,

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<v Speaker 4>and if it weren't for Hunter Dickinson, the headline might

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<v Speaker 4>be the posterizing dunk delivered by Cooper Flagg. But it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Hunter Dickinson, fifth year senior, still doing childish things, ejected

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<v Speaker 4>from the game for kicking a Duke player in the head,

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<v Speaker 4>Malik Brown. They were scuffling on the floor. It all

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<v Speaker 4>kind of erupted. Brown was assessed a personal foul for

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<v Speaker 4>backing into Dickinson. They were both going for a rebound.

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<v Speaker 4>Dickinson was given a flagrant IWO for kicking them in

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<v Speaker 4>the head. They were on the ground in front of

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<v Speaker 4>the bench area and Dickinson kicked him in the head,

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<v Speaker 4>so he got the flagrant two and he got the boot.

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<v Speaker 4>Dickinson has been doing punk type things ever, so I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if he did it in his previous school Michigan.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't remember seeing him do that in London. Didn't

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<v Speaker 4>do anything goofy there when he played against Kentucky. But man,

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<v Speaker 4>he is making some bad headlines since getting to Kansas.

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<v Speaker 4>And remember there was a point where a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>us thought he was coming to Kentucky. Got a better

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<v Speaker 4>nil deal in Lawrence saying with basketball inside, the NBA

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<v Speaker 4>was kicking it around last night. See what I did there.

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<v Speaker 4>Evidently somebody leaked. Somebody from the Philadelphia seventy six ers

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<v Speaker 4>leaked the fact that Joel Embiid is late all the

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<v Speaker 4>time and they had a team meeting, and that's one

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<v Speaker 4>of the things that came up. But somebody leaked what

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<v Speaker 4>on inside the NBA discussed it, including my man, Charles

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<v Speaker 4>Barkley and Shaquie O'Neal. And Barkley as always quite frank

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<v Speaker 4>about both the Embiid situation and whoever leaked it.

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<v Speaker 2>You cannot be leaked all the time, disrespectful to your

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<v Speaker 2>So first, Joel has on that, But what whoever leaked

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<v Speaker 2>that to the press need to be punched in the

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<v Speaker 2>face in a team meeting. Those are secret, Ernie. You

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<v Speaker 1>Now, like I said, nextely, somebody has been punched in

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<v Speaker 2>Get out yet. No, no, But I'm saying, though, when

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<v Speaker 2>that's that should have never guiden to the press in

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<v Speaker 2>this area we live in. That's never going a check

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<v Speaker 2>no check. You know, if y'all had a team meeting,

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<v Speaker 2>a guy accused you of something, but it shouldn't should

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<v Speaker 2>not it should not check Jim Gray, how you doing something?

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<v Speaker 4>That's a certainty. Over in the NFL, the Players Association

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<v Speaker 4>number one in the top five are all quarterbacks, No surprise,

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<v Speaker 4>Patrick Mahomes once again with the most merch sold. Second

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<v Speaker 4>Lexings Walker Buehler. So the signing of Snell, and of

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<v Speaker 4>him the Yankee. He's had a zoom call with him,

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<v Speaker 4>but they're really concentrating on resigning one Soto and college football.

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<v Speaker 4>Note you know this by now. Mac Brown fired by

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<v Speaker 4>Not so fast, my friend. One of the names, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>it's being tossed out there John some Roll. And this

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<v Speaker 4>Kentucky fans who are unhappy with stoops or banging a

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<v Speaker 4>drum for John some roll. Here's an interesting note about

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<v Speaker 4>Mac Brown. When he was first in North Carolina, he

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<v Speaker 4>up hiring Hell Mummy. But Newton and I were together

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<v Speaker 4>at one point and he asked me, what are the

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<v Speaker 4>guys or however many I mentioned, Seam said yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>enough at Carolina, then went on to Texas before he

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<v Speaker 4>of a job. Hey, remember alone a mayor, She was

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<v Speaker 4>a household name. During the summer, she helped lead the

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<v Speaker 4>US women's rugby team to a bronze medal in the

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty four Olympics. Well, she kind of got the

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<v Speaker 4>silver medal, and Dancing with the Star she came in second.

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<v Speaker 4>The season finale aired last night. No, I do not

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<v Speaker 4>Joey Graziade was the winner. She wasn't the only athlete

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<v Speaker 4>to call for the final. Gymnast Steven Netteroseik finished fourth,

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<v Speaker 4>So Team USA well represented on Dancing with the Stars.

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<v Speaker 4>And by the way, I don't watch Dancing with the Stars.

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<v Speaker 4>better than any Because the guy who won, Joey Graziade.

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<v Speaker 4>If you know who he is, you watch a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of TV. And again, not judging, but here's why he

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<v Speaker 4>up on season twenty of The Bachelorette, he didn't even win.

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<v Speaker 4>He was the runner up on season twenty and the

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<v Speaker 4>In seasons thirty three of Dancing with the Stars. What

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<v Speaker 4>He was a teaching tennis pro from Collegeville, Pennsylvania. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>wonder will he ever go back if he hasn't yet

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<v Speaker 4>to giving tennis lessons. But I guess you can call

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<v Speaker 4>him a star now easily more than fifteen minutes of

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<v Speaker 4>fame for this guy. Up next, Keith Madison. After that

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<v Speaker 4>ahead here on six thirty WLAP joining us on our

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<v Speaker 4>Celebrity Hotline is a guy who's actually been right here

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<v Speaker 4>in the garage in front of him. He's been on

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<v Speaker 4>the Celebrity Hotline too, But coach Keith Madison usually here

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<v Speaker 4>with the Chain gang. But you're kind of special people now, Coach,

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<v Speaker 4>because you're an author, you've written a book. Tell me

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<v Speaker 9>Well, it's been fun experience. I really enjoyed the writing

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<v Speaker 9>process and the name of the book, Dick is Coaching

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<v Speaker 9>with Purpose, And basically it's trying to help coaches avoid

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<v Speaker 9>some of the mistakes I made. But it's not all

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<v Speaker 9>about that, but uh, it's it's a book that hopefully

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<v Speaker 9>helps coaches win on the on the field or on

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<v Speaker 9>just I just think that coaches, Yeah, they're paid to win,

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<v Speaker 9>but they have such an opportunity to impact their athletes

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<v Speaker 9>and in a positive way because they spend so much

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<v Speaker 9>time with them, and because if if you're if you're

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<v Speaker 9>a decent coach, a good coach, they're going to listen

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<v Speaker 9>help them to become better husbands, better wives, better sin.

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<v Speaker 9>I just think that coaches have this golden opportunity to

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<v Speaker 9>make an impact that's perhaps bigger than they even know.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you feel like you were not tuned into that

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<v Speaker 4>when you first got started. I got to assume you

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<v Speaker 4>were kind of overwhelmed by the job itself because you

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<v Speaker 4>had so much going against you. But this sounds like

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<v Speaker 4>something coach that has dawned on you through the years.

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<v Speaker 9>You're exactly right. I think when I first started coaching.

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<v Speaker 9>I really loved my players. I had a great group

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<v Speaker 9>of young men, but it was it was it was

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<v Speaker 9>all work, and I didn't talk to them as much

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<v Speaker 9>about important things off the field as I should have, probably,

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<v Speaker 9>although I still have great relationships with those guys. But

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<v Speaker 9>I just think that you know, these coaches that whether

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<v Speaker 9>or a little league coach, you know, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 9>You have influence on those people you coach. And I

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<v Speaker 9>think that young people need that discipline and that structure

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<v Speaker 9>that they have at practicing on the field, but they

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm wondering about a challenge you might have

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<v Speaker 4>faced when you first began, because that's when I first

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<v Speaker 4>met you, when you started coaching at Kentucky. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>relatively speaking, how old we are now, you weren't that

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<v Speaker 4>to think that had a lot to do with it.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I think so, you know, I was I was

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<v Speaker 9>twenty six years old, and my first baseman was twenty

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<v Speaker 9>two years old, and my second basement was twenty two

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<v Speaker 9>years old. Wow, I just you know it. But I

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<v Speaker 9>think because they had had such a tucky year of

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<v Speaker 9>the year before. Uh, I think they were they were

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<v Speaker 9>And I had just played professional baseball, uh two or

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<v Speaker 9>three years before that, and so they thought that was

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<v Speaker 9>to them, and I felt like I did relate to them.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 9>And we had fun. You know, we worked hard, so

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<v Speaker 9>we had sun and we uh gosh, we got to

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<v Speaker 9>it was amazing because I think you and I've talked

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<v Speaker 9>about this before, but we we would get to the field,

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<v Speaker 9>was exhausting, But when you're twenty six or twenty seven

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<v Speaker 9>but that's what I really got to know those guys,

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<v Speaker 9>comfortable with them. But it's those kind of relationships that

417
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<v Speaker 9>are so special that coaches have an opportunity to experience.

418
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<v Speaker 4>You know.

419
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<v Speaker 9>I was in touch on a regular basis with my

420
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<v Speaker 9>little league coach up until the day he died. He

421
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<v Speaker 9>actually called me the day he called me the day

422
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<v Speaker 9>he passed away, right, and you know, and the impact

423
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<v Speaker 9>he had on me as a as a kid, and

424
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<v Speaker 9>then my high school coach was he was a great guy.

425
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<v Speaker 9>He had a tremendous impact me. I just want other

426
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<v Speaker 9>coaches to leverage that and know that they have it.

427
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<v Speaker 9>And winning is awesome and that's what we need to do.

428
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<v Speaker 9>It's a lot more fun when you win. But you

429
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<v Speaker 9>can win on the field and you can win with

430
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<v Speaker 9>the players off the field, and that's doubly special.

431
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<v Speaker 4>You played for and coached with a lot of different coaches.

432
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<v Speaker 4>And I got to think writing this book made you,

433
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<v Speaker 4>you know, and you just talk about how much you

434
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<v Speaker 4>enjoyed it, but you know, sit back and reflect on

435
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<v Speaker 4>what you learn from them, what they may have learned

436
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<v Speaker 4>from you. I mean, you know, this had to have

437
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<v Speaker 4>been a great trip down memory lane.

438
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<v Speaker 2>No doubt that.

439
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<v Speaker 9>And that's exactly why it was fun, because I started

440
00:24:46.079 --> 00:24:48.480
<v Speaker 9>remembering things that I hadn't thought of in years, like

441
00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:52.279
<v Speaker 9>this one experience I had with Russ Nixon. He was

442
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<v Speaker 9>a manager. Doug Twinn and I both played for US.

443
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<v Speaker 9>Great manager, tough guy played you know, he was a

444
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<v Speaker 9>catcher for the Red I played with Ted Williams and

445
00:25:01.680 --> 00:25:06.039
<v Speaker 9>all that. But I respected him so much. So I

446
00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:08.759
<v Speaker 9>had a really bad outing one night. I was the

447
00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:12.200
<v Speaker 9>closer on the staff, and uh, he called me into

448
00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:14.880
<v Speaker 9>his little office there at all Little Past Stadium the

449
00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:18.279
<v Speaker 9>next day before we did our workout, and I thought, man,

450
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<v Speaker 9>this is not going to go good because he was

451
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<v Speaker 9>a tough guy and and you know, as a minor

452
00:25:24.640 --> 00:25:27.400
<v Speaker 9>league do you never know whether a bad outing is

453
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<v Speaker 9>the last time you'll ever pitch right. And so he

454
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<v Speaker 9>calls me in and he had a really serious look

455
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<v Speaker 9>on his face, and I'm not going to say it

456
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<v Speaker 9>over the air, but he said, Madison, you were a horse.

457
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<v Speaker 9>Understand you could fill in the plank. And he said, uh,

458
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<v Speaker 9>he said that that was that was just a terrible

459
00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:52.559
<v Speaker 9>outing last night. I thought, oh boys, that yeah, And

460
00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:57.200
<v Speaker 9>but then he said this, He said, but you're my closure,

461
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<v Speaker 9>and if you go out there tonight, I expect you

462
00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:04.880
<v Speaker 9>to to be the best closer in the Florida State League.

463
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<v Speaker 9>And man, he just I mean that listed me, you know,

464
00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:12.519
<v Speaker 9>he he ripped me a little bit, and I deserved it,

465
00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:17.400
<v Speaker 9>but then he made me feel so special. And sure enough,

466
00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:21.240
<v Speaker 9>I go out out that night and I'm throwing gass

467
00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:24.799
<v Speaker 9>and I'm feeling good because Russ Nixon believed in me.

468
00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:29.400
<v Speaker 9>And that's such a that seems like such a simple thing,

469
00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:33.559
<v Speaker 9>but when coaches believe in athletes, sure they can do

470
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<v Speaker 9>so much more.

471
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<v Speaker 4>You know, I've never coached really at your level. I'm

472
00:26:38.440 --> 00:26:39.839
<v Speaker 4>a little bit of little league here and there, but

473
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<v Speaker 4>I've managed people through my career and and looking back,

474
00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:46.480
<v Speaker 4>there a couple of times when I thought, you know,

475
00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:49.079
<v Speaker 4>I just never got through to this guy, and I

476
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:52.440
<v Speaker 4>probably should have just parted ways with him. Uh, because

477
00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:55.000
<v Speaker 4>but I didn't because I thought, well, I'll be laying

478
00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:58.680
<v Speaker 4>another problem on somebody else, and it's my problem to manage,

479
00:26:58.680 --> 00:27:01.039
<v Speaker 4>you know, all that kind of stuff. Did you ever

480
00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:03.680
<v Speaker 4>think in those terms? I got to think there were

481
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:06.240
<v Speaker 4>some players you just couldn't get through to and maybe

482
00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:07.119
<v Speaker 4>somebody else could have.

483
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<v Speaker 9>I don't know, Yeah, no doubt about it. I mean

484
00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:12.599
<v Speaker 9>I would be lying to you, Dick, if if I

485
00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:16.160
<v Speaker 9>told you that I connected with every player that I coach.

486
00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:19.200
<v Speaker 9>That just doesn't happen because there's always this thing called

487
00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:24.039
<v Speaker 9>personality that that can that can cause you not to connect.

488
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<v Speaker 9>You know, maybe that maybe that young man or that

489
00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:30.519
<v Speaker 9>young woman they just they just don't want to spend

490
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:34.799
<v Speaker 9>time with you. But that that does happen. But I

491
00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:38.519
<v Speaker 9>think you know, the coach's job is to is to

492
00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:43.359
<v Speaker 9>get the best possible out of that particular athlete. And

493
00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:45.960
<v Speaker 9>if you have to bite your tongue a little bit

494
00:27:46.759 --> 00:27:49.880
<v Speaker 9>and uh, eat some mumble pie, you know you got.

495
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:50.079
<v Speaker 8>To do that.

496
00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:53.839
<v Speaker 9>But your job is to get that young person to produce.

497
00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:57.799
<v Speaker 9>And uh, if we if we go about our jobs

498
00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:00.960
<v Speaker 9>that way, it's going to be better. And then I've

499
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.720
<v Speaker 9>had this happen for Dick, or you do that, and

500
00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:06.559
<v Speaker 9>maybe you know that that player doesn't like you, yep,

501
00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:09.920
<v Speaker 9>but you just keep you just keep on pouring into

502
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<v Speaker 9>him and try to add value to not only his

503
00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:18.559
<v Speaker 9>his skills, but also add value to his life. And

504
00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:20.480
<v Speaker 9>if you just keep doing that, I mean some of

505
00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:24.480
<v Speaker 9>those people are the best friends I have right now.

506
00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:28.839
<v Speaker 9>That the relationships started off a little top, little rocky,

507
00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:32.119
<v Speaker 9>but then you just keep pouring into him and things

508
00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:34.920
<v Speaker 9>turn around, and that's when it's really rewarding.

509
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<v Speaker 4>Interesting, Coach. I appreciated. We will talk more about this

510
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:41.359
<v Speaker 4>when the rest of the chain gang joined you here

511
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:43.359
<v Speaker 4>in the garage. But tell everybody where they can find

512
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:45.160
<v Speaker 4>that book. Is it out yet or where we ready

513
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:47.920
<v Speaker 4>to recommend it for stocking stuffers?

514
00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:49.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

515
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:51.759
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, it's just coming out next week. And as a

516
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:54.519
<v Speaker 9>matter of fact, today I want to be putting the

517
00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:58.000
<v Speaker 9>links on my website and you can go to my

518
00:28:58.039 --> 00:29:02.880
<v Speaker 9>website website Coach Keithmadison dot com and you'll be able

519
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:06.680
<v Speaker 9>to find the link there on how to order the book.

520
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:10.160
<v Speaker 9>And I really appreciate you asking me about it, Dick,

521
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:10.920
<v Speaker 9>No problem.

522
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<v Speaker 4>Always enjoy talking with you. Thanks, Coach, have a great

523
00:29:13.839 --> 00:29:16.000
<v Speaker 4>holiday and we'll talk soon here in the garage.

524
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:17.599
<v Speaker 9>Okay, Dick, thank you.

525
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<v Speaker 4>I want to come with a Big Blue Sider here

526
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<v Speaker 4>on six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big Blue

527
00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:26.720
<v Speaker 4>Sider coming up Saturday. Uku of l the rivalry that

528
00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:28.640
<v Speaker 4>should be played first game of the year. I would

529
00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:31.640
<v Speaker 4>even accept third game of the year, but I've said

530
00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:34.880
<v Speaker 4>it over and over. I liked it first game because

531
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:37.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm in the hype business, and it gave us more

532
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:41.839
<v Speaker 4>to talk about all summer long getting into Kentucky football

533
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:45.920
<v Speaker 4>season with that game upcoming. And remember when Bill Curry

534
00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:50.640
<v Speaker 4>and Howard Snellenberger got together and agreed to work to

535
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:54.480
<v Speaker 4>get this game happening. That's one of the biggest reasons

536
00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:57.599
<v Speaker 4>they weren't ashamed to say, Look, we're tired of hearing

537
00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:01.640
<v Speaker 4>people talking about basketball recruiting all summer long. We need

538
00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:05.440
<v Speaker 4>them talking about football. And this got us talking, didn't it.

539
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:08.000
<v Speaker 4>And then of course Rich Brooks came in. He wanted

540
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:10.000
<v Speaker 4>to move it to the third week, so it alternated

541
00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:14.319
<v Speaker 4>when Kentucky hosted third week when Louisville hosted first week.

542
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:16.839
<v Speaker 4>And I understood why Rich wanted that, get a better

543
00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:21.000
<v Speaker 4>read on your team. But once it was moved by

544
00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:24.200
<v Speaker 4>the SEC because of television to the end of the season,

545
00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:27.640
<v Speaker 4>and there have been some really good games and the

546
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:30.079
<v Speaker 4>air been games that really worked out well for Kentucky.

547
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:32.559
<v Speaker 4>There were some drama involved. Do they go to a

548
00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:35.359
<v Speaker 4>bowl game? Do they not think back to that upset

549
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:38.599
<v Speaker 4>win over the Lamar Jackson U of L team, But

550
00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:42.759
<v Speaker 4>it gets lost in the weekend, especially weekend like this

551
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:45.839
<v Speaker 4>when uk. I mean, this is the bowl game for

552
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.400
<v Speaker 4>the Wildcats. Cardinals are good, They're going to a bowl game.

553
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:53.039
<v Speaker 4>But I'm just and it's not even a traditional thing.

554
00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:56.319
<v Speaker 4>I just like the hype. Part of the hype is

555
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<v Speaker 4>the Wildcad Whip. I hope you've enjoyed podcast that Tom

556
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:03.359
<v Speaker 4>Lee chip Icorn I have been doing at South The

557
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:07.279
<v Speaker 4>Wrigley got together earlier today. We usually tape on Thursday,

558
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:11.319
<v Speaker 4>but obviously we can't tomorrow, and this is part of

559
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:15.400
<v Speaker 4>this week's Wildcat Whip. It is a rivalry, but each

560
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:18.559
<v Speaker 4>school has had its opportunities to own it for a while.

561
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:21.200
<v Speaker 4>It's never been like Red Blue, Red Blue. You know,

562
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:22.200
<v Speaker 4>it's been very streaking.

563
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the other streets look at a couple of things

564
00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:31.839
<v Speaker 1>in preparing. The winning score is usually pretty high. Yeah,

565
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's either been blowouts, or it's been a

566
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:37.680
<v Speaker 1>high scoring game like last year where I think it

567
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>was a thirty eight to thirty one. I mean, Kentucky

568
00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:43.480
<v Speaker 1>hasn't scored above twenty and anybody in the SEC this

569
00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:46.079
<v Speaker 1>is the only other power for opponent they will have played.

570
00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:47.039
<v Speaker 4>I looked up.

571
00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:50.200
<v Speaker 1>The last time the winning score was twenty or less

572
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:52.359
<v Speaker 1>in this game was nineteen ninety five.

573
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:55.359
<v Speaker 4>So it's gonna be interesting.

574
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:59.039
<v Speaker 1>Can the new QB was the coach in ninety five

575
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:04.240
<v Speaker 1>that would have in Bill Curry and Ron Yes, uh Cooper, yep, yep.

576
00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:06.680
<v Speaker 4>Ye thirteen. I was thirteen to ten that year.

577
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:09.640
<v Speaker 8>I think that the reason for that tom is because,

578
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:14.839
<v Speaker 8>especially like a game like tomorrow, Kentucky has nothing to lose. Yeah,

579
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:18.279
<v Speaker 8>I mean, so you pull everything out. Mark Stoops says, look,

580
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:20.519
<v Speaker 8>score every drive. I don't care if you scored in

581
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:23.359
<v Speaker 8>one play or it takes twenty plays. Score every drive.

582
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:27.559
<v Speaker 8>Don't try to feed you. But there's times when because

583
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:29.759
<v Speaker 8>of who people are, you have to make sure they

584
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:30.400
<v Speaker 8>stay in the game.

585
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:31.200
<v Speaker 4>Not this game.

586
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:35.519
<v Speaker 8>This game you play to win, you double reverse pass whatever.

587
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:38.559
<v Speaker 8>I think you see a wide open game of postains.

588
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:40.799
<v Speaker 8>Louisville already does that. If you ever watch any other games.

589
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:42.720
<v Speaker 8>They do all kinds of tricks plays during the game.

590
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:44.920
<v Speaker 8>Kentucky's brought them out every once in a while, and

591
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:46.519
<v Speaker 8>most of the time they've been successful.

592
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:49.119
<v Speaker 4>Ye brom is known for that though, I mean he's

593
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:53.480
<v Speaker 4>all with Purdue or Louisville. He's got quite the interesting playbook.

594
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:55.640
<v Speaker 4>And of course they practice that a lot. You gott

595
00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:58.720
<v Speaker 4>to wonder how often did they practice the fancy stuff.

596
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they certainly you've got to do that in this

597
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>sport to have the confidence to run. And I don't

598
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:11.039
<v Speaker 1>know how much of any of that stuff they may

599
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:16.119
<v Speaker 1>try with a new quarterback. It's the interesting dynamic to

600
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:20.119
<v Speaker 1>this matchup, a true freshman making his first start in

601
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:23.319
<v Speaker 1>the governor's company. Jared started as a red shirt freshman,

602
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>but there's never been a true freshman make his first

603
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:28.519
<v Speaker 1>start in this game for Kentucky. As somebody told me

604
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>today that I think it was Teddy Bridgewater maybe as

605
00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:36.359
<v Speaker 1>a true freshman that came in for an injured Louisville quarterback.

606
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember who it was and spark Louisville to

607
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:43.160
<v Speaker 1>a victory. So it's been done the other way, maybe

608
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:44.799
<v Speaker 1>with a freshman QB.

609
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<v Speaker 4>What do you guys learn, if anything, watching Cutter last

610
00:33:48.599 --> 00:33:51.839
<v Speaker 4>week down in Texas. I just thought that.

611
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:57.200
<v Speaker 8>The biggest thing that I learned was that it wasn't

612
00:33:57.240 --> 00:33:59.599
<v Speaker 8>too big for him. I didn't think he'd be ready

613
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:02.960
<v Speaker 8>because he came from a small school, you know, and

614
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:05.599
<v Speaker 8>and he didn't play the Trinities and the Frederick Douglasses

615
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:08.320
<v Speaker 8>every week. He played small schools and a lot of

616
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:11.119
<v Speaker 8>times the speed of the game is so totally different.

617
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:15.079
<v Speaker 8>But this kid, it didn't phase him at all. I mean,

618
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:17.239
<v Speaker 8>he got crunched a couple times. To him, he gets

619
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:19.519
<v Speaker 8>sacked four times, he's on the run. Everything he jumps

620
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:22.039
<v Speaker 8>right back up and he's the cool thing that I saw.

621
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:24.440
<v Speaker 8>And I think Tom and I talked about this when

622
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:27.199
<v Speaker 8>you were going in. He was talking to the other

623
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:29.239
<v Speaker 8>team like guys that were like helping him up after

624
00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:32.159
<v Speaker 8>they sacked him and stuff, and he was that doesn't

625
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:34.519
<v Speaker 8>happen with freshman because usually you're wide eyed out there,

626
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:35.000
<v Speaker 8>but he was.

627
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<v Speaker 4>He was cool.

628
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<v Speaker 2>Cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at his first play.

630
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<v Speaker 1>They fake it to the left and he turns and

631
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:46.599
<v Speaker 1>there's a Texas defensive end in his face sacking him.

632
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Very first play. Next option or next play, You've got

633
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:55.320
<v Speaker 1>multiple options on the on the play, so you know,

634
00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:59.280
<v Speaker 1>if you some some freshman in that situation, might just

635
00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:02.519
<v Speaker 1>get a quick easy completion here and settle my nerves down.

636
00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:05.119
<v Speaker 1>And he throws the bomb to Barry and Brown and

637
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:08.880
<v Speaker 1>completes a big pass. And then Kentucky, you know, made

638
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:10.519
<v Speaker 1>some big plays. Unfortunate a couple of them were wiped

639
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:13.400
<v Speaker 1>out by penalties, but you know where he moved around

640
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:16.159
<v Speaker 1>in the pocket, kept a play alive by looking downfield.

641
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:16.880
<v Speaker 4>The one pass he.

642
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:19.199
<v Speaker 1>Threw that was brought back to Willie Rodriguez dropped it

643
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:22.440
<v Speaker 1>in perfectly in among some of those burnt orange jerseys,

644
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.679
<v Speaker 1>and those are you know, big time plays. And if

645
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:27.960
<v Speaker 1>he can continue to make those in this game, I

646
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:31.159
<v Speaker 1>would have to think Louisville's really gonna heat him up.

647
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:31.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

648
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:33.559
<v Speaker 8>And then that one he hit Mackins right on the

649
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:35.360
<v Speaker 8>note right, I mean right in his chest and he

650
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:38.800
<v Speaker 8>dropped it. I keep thinking, I've watched that play probably

651
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<v Speaker 8>ten or twelve times. And when you're talking.

652
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:41.960
<v Speaker 1>About will the bomb, no the bomb to.

653
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:45.519
<v Speaker 8>Ol Barian Barrion, and I keep wondering, why did he

654
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:48.360
<v Speaker 8>go out of bounce, Why did he not turn to

655
00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:49.559
<v Speaker 8>his left and go upfield?

656
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:52.320
<v Speaker 1>There was nobody in front of him, no one.

657
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:56.039
<v Speaker 8>And I keep going, what was he doing? It's interesting

658
00:35:56.239 --> 00:35:59.360
<v Speaker 8>when I watched it again again, you've got rib injury.

659
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:01.400
<v Speaker 8>You don't want to get here. I mean that that hurts,

660
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:05.480
<v Speaker 8>but you know what, tomorrow, You know, we used to

661
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:07.960
<v Speaker 8>do things that make it not hurt that you're not

662
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:11.480
<v Speaker 8>allowed to do it anymore. But tomorrow you just play.

663
00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:13.440
<v Speaker 8>I mean, because this is it. And I thought a

664
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:16.280
<v Speaker 8>cool thing. Uh did you hear Eli? I think Dick

665
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:19.880
<v Speaker 8>was there Eli yesterday talking to the media like yeah,

666
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:24.119
<v Speaker 8>he said, yeah, yeah, well he did play offensive line.

667
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:26.519
<v Speaker 4>Now Eli was on the sideline of Texas.

668
00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:30.960
<v Speaker 8>Yes, Eli said, I keep reminding. Everybody stood up, and

669
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:32.320
<v Speaker 8>he spoke to the team. He goes, this is your

670
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:34.920
<v Speaker 8>last Monday practice. Tomorrow's the last Tuesday. Then you know,

671
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:36.159
<v Speaker 8>then it's the last Wednesday.

672
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:36.719
<v Speaker 4>This is it.

673
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:39.119
<v Speaker 8>We don't have a bowl game. This is the last

674
00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:41.960
<v Speaker 8>couple of times where ever the bowl each other again. Yeah,

675
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:44.760
<v Speaker 8>So that's that really puts it in perspective for players

676
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:46.079
<v Speaker 8>when you think of that way, and it kind of

677
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:49.119
<v Speaker 8>makes you want to dig down even deeper for this game.

678
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:53.119
<v Speaker 1>As that was walking down like you would have spurred

679
00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:55.440
<v Speaker 1>it on ahead you and I were finally got down

680
00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:57.639
<v Speaker 1>to the field, and but we're one hundred and twenty

681
00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:00.559
<v Speaker 1>yards from the locker room, and so.

682
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:02.679
<v Speaker 4>Guys went right. I told you to go left.

683
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:04.519
<v Speaker 1>You had sprint it on because like you had to

684
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:06.920
<v Speaker 1>be on the air first. And as I'm walking down

685
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:11.119
<v Speaker 1>past at the fifty yard line, just Texas players sitting there. Yes,

686
00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:13.840
<v Speaker 1>was backside taking it in, taking it in.

687
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:15.280
<v Speaker 4>I think it was hen Ter hell Hill.

688
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Tight end who had a tremendous year, but his last game.

689
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:22.639
<v Speaker 4>In last day, he's good too. Man. So now it's

690
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:26.360
<v Speaker 4>Senior Day at Kroger Field, and Senior Day day is

691
00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:29.559
<v Speaker 4>taken taking on a new meaning. Well with a portal

692
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:32.559
<v Speaker 4>and nil. You may see a kid for one year

693
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:34.519
<v Speaker 4>and you never see him again. You may see im

694
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:37.000
<v Speaker 4>this first freshman year and you never see him again.

695
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:39.159
<v Speaker 4>And then you've got seniors. And this was the way

696
00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:41.400
<v Speaker 4>it was in the past with red shirts, but now

697
00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:45.320
<v Speaker 4>even more so, you may see seniors going through two

698
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:48.199
<v Speaker 4>or three different senior days because they had that additional

699
00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:50.880
<v Speaker 4>year and an additional year and things like that. I

700
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:55.000
<v Speaker 4>think the COVID seasons are about over, but it's still

701
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:58.039
<v Speaker 4>going to be emotional. It's going to be cold, and

702
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:00.360
<v Speaker 4>it's going to be a noon kickoff, so I wonder

703
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:04.840
<v Speaker 4>what kind of crowd we will see for tailgating Saturday morning.

704
00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:07.880
<v Speaker 4>But hey, it's the last game of the year. Why not.

705
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:10.599
<v Speaker 4>It's Louisville, why not? And I think it's going to

706
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:13.039
<v Speaker 4>be a good game, and why not be there when

707
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:17.880
<v Speaker 4>Cutter Bowley takes his first snap as a starting quarterback.

708
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:20.360
<v Speaker 4>And in this whip when you tune in, you can

709
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:23.039
<v Speaker 4>find it on my Facebook page and you'll find it

710
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:26.880
<v Speaker 4>on Friday via my Twitter feed and via the UK

711
00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:31.320
<v Speaker 4>Sports Network Twitter feed. Jeff tells us what it's like

712
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:34.760
<v Speaker 4>to prepare as the starting QB, he sat in meetings

713
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:38.119
<v Speaker 4>as a former player, what it's like, what this week

714
00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:42.400
<v Speaker 4>is like for Cutter Bowley with the starting job right

715
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:46.280
<v Speaker 4>there in his lap. So again, Wildcat Whip, watch for it.

716
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:49.159
<v Speaker 4>It should already be on my Facebook page or it'll

717
00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:52.400
<v Speaker 4>be on Twitter coming up on Friday. I want to

718
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:54.360
<v Speaker 4>do this up next with Gary Moore, our West End

719
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:58.599
<v Speaker 4>Bureau Chief and our tribute to WKRP Turkey's Away. I'm

720
00:38:58.599 --> 00:40:42.679
<v Speaker 4>six point thirty wager welcome back to the Big Blue

721
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:45.679
<v Speaker 4>and Cider. It is Wednesday, Thanksgiving Eve, but that means

722
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:48.440
<v Speaker 4>we will go to our favorite turkey. He is our

723
00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:50.599
<v Speaker 4>West End Bureau chief, Gary Moore. At the other end

724
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:54.840
<v Speaker 4>of I sixty four, I resemble that he's got a

725
00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:56.679
<v Speaker 4>list of topics you'd like to discuss.

726
00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:00.880
<v Speaker 10>Hey, it's our big Black Friday. Two guys in a

727
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:03.840
<v Speaker 10>six pack sail on swigs six.

728
00:41:03.599 --> 00:41:05.559
<v Speaker 4>For the price of squat.

729
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:08.159
<v Speaker 10>Of course that's our regular price. But never mind that.

730
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:11.599
<v Speaker 10>Now so here we are Dick our first wig rivalry

731
00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:15.559
<v Speaker 10>week in college football. None bigger than these parts anyway

732
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:19.480
<v Speaker 10>than UK Louisville coming frigid Saturday, Kroger Field. You'll be

733
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:22.480
<v Speaker 10>there as usual with about eight layers of clothing on

734
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:25.559
<v Speaker 10>there For the Cats. You got senior Day, you got

735
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:27.599
<v Speaker 10>their only bowl game, and you got their big rivalry

736
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:29.599
<v Speaker 10>game all into one. You think they're gonna be amped

737
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:33.559
<v Speaker 10>up for this, Well, what about Louisville. Sure they had

738
00:41:33.559 --> 00:41:35.599
<v Speaker 10>to blow out and get right last home game against

739
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:38.920
<v Speaker 10>the spiraling pit team. But I was still thinking to myself,

740
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:43.159
<v Speaker 10>which is my favorite way? Did they rid themselves of

741
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:46.159
<v Speaker 10>all their Stanford stupidity, of which there are copious amounts.

742
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:49.440
<v Speaker 10>The week before I say, nay, nay, last year over here,

743
00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:51.159
<v Speaker 10>remember the cards came in hot ten and one.

744
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:54.000
<v Speaker 4>They just knocked one down in Miami. They even out.

745
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:54.960
<v Speaker 10>Passed and out rushed UK.

746
00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:55.599
<v Speaker 4>Didn't matter.

747
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:59.079
<v Speaker 10>Louisville had three turnovers to UK's one, three penalties to

748
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:02.800
<v Speaker 10>UK's nine. You had a clean game last year, different year.

749
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:04.599
<v Speaker 10>I know some of the same players are still there,

750
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:07.519
<v Speaker 10>but even with freshman quarterback Cutter Bowlie starting, I still

751
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:09.360
<v Speaker 10>like the Cats by two.

752
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:11.360
<v Speaker 4>And by the way, that's.

753
00:42:11.239 --> 00:42:14.519
<v Speaker 10>At noon right there, right here, WLAP and on the

754
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:17.679
<v Speaker 10>SEC network, which means, unfortunately we won't get TV play

755
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:20.840
<v Speaker 10>by play guy Joe Testatur for two consecutive week. Kids

756
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:23.119
<v Speaker 10>and Joe's dramatic style.

757
00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:26.320
<v Speaker 4>Were every game, every play could be the biggest game.

758
00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:28.800
<v Speaker 10>And this is the biggest play in college football this

759
00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:30.440
<v Speaker 10>season in twenty twenty four.

760
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:32.519
<v Speaker 4>Oh wait a minute, he fumbled. That is a flat.

761
00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:36.599
<v Speaker 4>It's Joe Testatur. So anyway, what do you think? Well,

762
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:38.599
<v Speaker 4>first of all, I do like Joe, but after a while,

763
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:40.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm like Buddy, settled down.

764
00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:43.360
<v Speaker 10>I know I like it too, but it.

765
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:45.840
<v Speaker 4>Also made me ask myself, am I not being excited

766
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:50.079
<v Speaker 4>enough on play by play? But you're fine, No, I

767
00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:52.199
<v Speaker 4>think you're right. It comes down to turnovers. But It

768
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:54.400
<v Speaker 4>also comes down to the same thing when I go

769
00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:56.880
<v Speaker 4>to games at U of L, my buddy and my

770
00:42:56.960 --> 00:42:59.239
<v Speaker 4>brother who often sit together, I go visit him at

771
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:02.599
<v Speaker 4>halftime and they always say the same thing. Your linemen

772
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:05.840
<v Speaker 4>are so big, you know they'll win in the trenches.

773
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:09.840
<v Speaker 4>And Kentucky defensively has the edge on the line, but

774
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:11.760
<v Speaker 4>you just don't know what you're gonna get from the

775
00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:15.400
<v Speaker 4>Kentucky o line. So yeah, this could come down to

776
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:18.760
<v Speaker 4>a last minute kick, second swig.

777
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:21.440
<v Speaker 10>Then you got my WKU Hilltoppers had control of their

778
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:25.239
<v Speaker 10>own Conference USA championship destiny can't stop the run dick

779
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:28.519
<v Speaker 10>in the last three weeks alone, Western's week d lines

780
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:31.480
<v Speaker 10>giving up nine hundred and twenty eight yards on the ground,

781
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:34.800
<v Speaker 10>three hundred nine yards a game the last three and

782
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:36.440
<v Speaker 10>who are they gonna be facing at home for their

783
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:40.039
<v Speaker 10>senior Day Saturday. The number one rushing team in the conference,

784
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:44.119
<v Speaker 10>number three Division one rushing team in America, Jacksonville State

785
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:46.639
<v Speaker 10>two hundred and sixty yards a game, even more than

786
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:49.760
<v Speaker 10>boys he has, so barring a sudden red wall defense,

787
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:51.679
<v Speaker 10>it's going to be a long cold day in Bowling Green.

788
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:54.440
<v Speaker 10>But you know we mentioned rivalry week. We got on

789
00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:57.800
<v Speaker 10>Friday the Egg Bowl with State and Old mess God.

790
00:43:57.840 --> 00:43:59.599
<v Speaker 10>I love seeing Kiffin lose on Saturday, it was so

791
00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:03.280
<v Speaker 10>beautiful Georgia, Tech and Georgia. Then you go to Saturday,

792
00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:07.159
<v Speaker 10>South Carolina and Clemson balls at Vandy, Michigan at Ohio's

793
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:11.800
<v Speaker 10>and Ohio State University Opered at Bama, Notre Dame at USC,

794
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:14.320
<v Speaker 10>Purdue at Indiana, and the real Biggie in the SEC

795
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:17.280
<v Speaker 10>for the first time in thirteen years, which is ridiculous

796
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:18.760
<v Speaker 10>because they ought to play every year.

797
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:20.920
<v Speaker 4>Texas at Texas.

798
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:23.000
<v Speaker 10>A and M Longhorns are actually five and a half

799
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:26.239
<v Speaker 10>point favorites, which I don't know about that. I think

800
00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:28.559
<v Speaker 10>A and M might be serving a cold plate of

801
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:30.760
<v Speaker 10>revenge on this one. You also got Washington and Oregon.

802
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:32.559
<v Speaker 10>Those two schools hate each other. And by the way,

803
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:36.000
<v Speaker 10>good luck to EKU at Villanova on Saturday two o'clock

804
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:38.760
<v Speaker 10>ESPN plus in the Round one of the FCS.

805
00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:41.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, finally back in the playoffs. And tell me the

806
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:43.719
<v Speaker 4>greatest football alum from Villanova do you know off the

807
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:44.440
<v Speaker 4>top of your head?

808
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:46.159
<v Speaker 9>Uh?

809
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.920
<v Speaker 4>How long I was gonna say? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talks

810
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:51.880
<v Speaker 4>about it every once in a while on the anchor desk.

811
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:54.079
<v Speaker 4>I come out there. I agree with you on that

812
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:56.599
<v Speaker 4>Texas A and M game. That's gonna be fun. A

813
00:44:56.639 --> 00:45:00.079
<v Speaker 4>and M fled the Big twelve because it wanted a

814
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:03.800
<v Speaker 4>way from Texas, and then let's welcome Texas to the SEC.

815
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:07.119
<v Speaker 4>It's beautiful. But A and M is playing sneaky good.

816
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:09.960
<v Speaker 4>I think they're sneaky better than people believe. But Texas,

817
00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:12.400
<v Speaker 4>I got a good look at him up front. Quinn

818
00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:15.440
<v Speaker 4>Yours is not overwhelmingly great, but he's as good as

819
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:17.480
<v Speaker 4>he needs to be with that Texas team. So much

820
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:21.320
<v Speaker 4>talent on that team. I would love it if Vandy

821
00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:24.760
<v Speaker 4>upsset at Tennessee. But Tennessee is playing really well right now,

822
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:27.440
<v Speaker 4>and I think Clemson is going to get South Carolina

823
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:30.239
<v Speaker 4>the fighting Beamers. That's right.

824
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:33.199
<v Speaker 10>A third twig and a six back Tomorrow being Thanksgiving,

825
00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:35.800
<v Speaker 10>not one, not two, but three NFL games of first

826
00:45:35.880 --> 00:45:38.920
<v Speaker 10>at twelve thirty on CBS, the Bears at Detroit Lions

827
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:41.119
<v Speaker 10>ten and a half point favorites, four point thirty on

828
00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:45.599
<v Speaker 10>Fox soft as f Giants at Dallas Dallas four point favorites,

829
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:49.119
<v Speaker 10>and then at eight twenty on NBC Miami trading sunshine

830
00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:51.800
<v Speaker 10>and highs in the eighties, for light, snow and below

831
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:55.880
<v Speaker 10>freezing temperatures at lambeau Field, and your Packers only three

832
00:45:55.880 --> 00:45:57.360
<v Speaker 10>point favorites at this point, is that right?

833
00:45:58.000 --> 00:45:59.079
<v Speaker 4>They'll win by more than that.

834
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:02.119
<v Speaker 10>All three home teams are favorite, obviously, and it says

835
00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:04.400
<v Speaker 10>here that they will all three are gonna win. But

836
00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:07.320
<v Speaker 10>I'm hoping that the Giants will play hard as f

837
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:08.519
<v Speaker 10>against them boys.

838
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:09.519
<v Speaker 4>So three tomorrow?

839
00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:11.920
<v Speaker 10>How about these three On Sunday Dick Steelers up I

840
00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:14.440
<v Speaker 10>seventy five at the Bengals, since he's two and a

841
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:16.719
<v Speaker 10>half point favorite in that one, Eagles at the Ravens.

842
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:19.480
<v Speaker 10>You got Baltimore's three point favorite in that one. And

843
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:23.119
<v Speaker 10>Sunday night the Niners and the at the Bills. Buffalo

844
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:25.559
<v Speaker 10>is seven point favorite. The big question, though, I ask

845
00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:28.280
<v Speaker 10>you how much attention will you be paying to the

846
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:30.800
<v Speaker 10>TV versus the family tomorrow?

847
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:35.079
<v Speaker 4>Well, fortunately, my nephew is a huge Green Bay fan,

848
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:38.119
<v Speaker 4>but we'll probably be on the way home from my

849
00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:42.519
<v Speaker 4>sister's house by the time the Packers play. But yeah,

850
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:45.199
<v Speaker 4>you've got it's always a division in the house. You've

851
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:48.280
<v Speaker 4>got in the big room. Right over here is everybody

852
00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:50.119
<v Speaker 4>glued to the TV, and right over he is everybody

853
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:52.880
<v Speaker 4>doing the yaking and gabbing and gossiping, so it's no

854
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:57.559
<v Speaker 4>big deal. Yeah, you gotta like the Lions. You gotta

855
00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:03.079
<v Speaker 4>like the Packers, even though Miami's better, I think, better

856
00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:05.320
<v Speaker 4>than people think. But I don't think they'll handle it

857
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:09.880
<v Speaker 4>up north. You know, this Cowboys Giants game is so

858
00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:14.239
<v Speaker 4>meaningless and yet meaningfull given what those teams are going through,

859
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:19.239
<v Speaker 4>especially at quarterback. And wouldn't it be funny if Tommy

860
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:23.880
<v Speaker 4>Cutletz jumped up and beat the Cowboys on Thanksgiving Day?

861
00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:26.199
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's sort of what a mess with a

862
00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:30.760
<v Speaker 4>Giant's game. They let Saquon go and re sign Daniel Jones,

863
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:33.480
<v Speaker 4>and now they'll be drafting another quarterback.

864
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:35.920
<v Speaker 10>It's Jones is going to Minnesota. Now Minnesota thought, hey

865
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:36.880
<v Speaker 10>we could use a guy like that.

866
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:39.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, need a backup. But it's a primer on how

867
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:44.079
<v Speaker 4>to mishandle the quarterback situation at a franchise that is

868
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:50.719
<v Speaker 4>better than that. Frankly, Steelers Bengals. The Steelers just don't

869
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:53.599
<v Speaker 4>score a lot and the Bengals do, but the Bengals

870
00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:55.599
<v Speaker 4>give up points. So I don't know what to make

871
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:59.760
<v Speaker 4>of that one. And yeah, the Niners, Baltimore Niners are

872
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:03.159
<v Speaker 4>so banged up, and the Ravens are back on track.

873
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:06.679
<v Speaker 4>So I like the Ravens in that one porth swig

874
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:08.840
<v Speaker 4>and a six pack. Okay, stalk hoops.

875
00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:11.039
<v Speaker 10>Your alma mater beat my alma mater rapp Arena last

876
00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:13.480
<v Speaker 10>night eighty seven sixty eight. I think the Toppers played

877
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:17.400
<v Speaker 10>the Cats pretty hard though, just too many missshots. Four

878
00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:19.599
<v Speaker 10>for twenty six from the threes and the two seat

879
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:21.599
<v Speaker 10>in your guards you thought would at least help him out.

880
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:26.159
<v Speaker 10>McHenry and Lander combined four for twenty eight total of

881
00:48:26.199 --> 00:48:28.480
<v Speaker 10>eleven points with those who. In fact, Lander was one

882
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:31.639
<v Speaker 10>for twelve. He used to be a really great guard

883
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:33.320
<v Speaker 10>at one In fact, he was a high school star

884
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:37.159
<v Speaker 10>down in Evansville. But I still saw some good signs

885
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:40.920
<v Speaker 10>that the Toppers may get into they may mold into

886
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:43.199
<v Speaker 10>a good team by March. Despite some of those horrific

887
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:46.239
<v Speaker 10>shots last night. They're home against Marshall on Saturday, down

888
00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:48.880
<v Speaker 10>at Diddle Arena, Cats in Georgia State Friday. Then you

889
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:53.199
<v Speaker 10>go over to Clemson for that acc SEC deal on Tuesday.

890
00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:55.719
<v Speaker 10>Then a week from Saturday in Seattle, we know what happens.

891
00:48:55.800 --> 00:49:00.559
<v Speaker 10>Number eight UK, number three Gonzaga, and now I want

892
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:01.920
<v Speaker 10>shifting gears slightly.

893
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:02.119
<v Speaker 4>Here.

894
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:04.280
<v Speaker 10>You may be familiar Dick with a great group out

895
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:07.840
<v Speaker 10>of England called Radiohead. Back in nineteen ninety seven, they

896
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:10.079
<v Speaker 10>had a great album called Okay Computer and a song

897
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:13.519
<v Speaker 10>on there called Karma Police. I bring this up because

898
00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:18.559
<v Speaker 10>yesterday in Maui, the Karma Police cited Danny Hothead Hurley,

899
00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:23.760
<v Speaker 10>resulting in his Huskies blowing a nine point lead and

900
00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:28.360
<v Speaker 10>losing in two days, the second time in two days

901
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:31.559
<v Speaker 10>to an unranked team, and he got the dubious honor

902
00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:34.360
<v Speaker 10>of his team playing for the seventh place in the

903
00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:36.000
<v Speaker 10>Maui Invitational.

904
00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:36.119
<v Speaker 4>Where it happened in.

905
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:41.159
<v Speaker 10>Exactly, going berserk at the refs on Monday, costing his

906
00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:43.599
<v Speaker 10>team the loss in overtime and then popping off about

907
00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:47.039
<v Speaker 10>the officiating and as well as a Memphis player, he

908
00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:48.639
<v Speaker 10>had nothing nice to say about that one guy who's

909
00:49:48.639 --> 00:49:51.920
<v Speaker 10>trying to get the rebound afterwards. Shows that Hurley made

910
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:54.400
<v Speaker 10>the right decision to stay in college, don't you think,

911
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:58.239
<v Speaker 10>Because that kind of crazy belligerence does not play with

912
00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:01.239
<v Speaker 10>grown ass men and eighty two games in the NBA,

913
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:02.239
<v Speaker 10>now does it.

914
00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:04.920
<v Speaker 4>Now he loses his mind and he then he loses team.

915
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:09.320
<v Speaker 4>Uh yeah, you're right about that. But yeah, your Toppers

916
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:12.119
<v Speaker 4>I thought played well, played with confidence, and yes, got

917
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:15.400
<v Speaker 4>good shots, some of them open. This didn't go down,

918
00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:17.960
<v Speaker 4>you know. And when you look back on this wall,

919
00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:20.400
<v Speaker 4>Kentucky must have played great defense. It played, it played

920
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:24.039
<v Speaker 4>good defense. But Western Kentucky just missed a lot of opportunities.

921
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:26.159
<v Speaker 4>But it was a ragged kind of ugly game, not

922
00:50:26.280 --> 00:50:29.599
<v Speaker 4>from poor play, but just these teams getting into each other.

923
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:32.639
<v Speaker 4>I think both teams will benefit from this game down

924
00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:35.960
<v Speaker 4>the stretch. I think it gave probably the Toppers some confidence.

925
00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:38.079
<v Speaker 4>You know, we went into up and for a while

926
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:40.559
<v Speaker 4>there made a game out of it more than any

927
00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:43.480
<v Speaker 4>other team. But Duke so far with Kentucky, just.

928
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:46.599
<v Speaker 10>Don't miss eight or eleven shots in a row against a.

929
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:53.480
<v Speaker 4>Team like Kentucky. That'sact Kentucky size. Kentucky size just overwhelmed

930
00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:54.880
<v Speaker 4>your guys absolutely.

931
00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:58.960
<v Speaker 10>Fittswig and the six pack, all right. Former West Coast

932
00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:03.400
<v Speaker 10>basketball dynasty UCLA finally has a number one basketball team.

933
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:07.840
<v Speaker 10>Only ain't the men, which probably pisses off another noted

934
00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:10.760
<v Speaker 10>hothead coach, min Cronan over there on the men's side,

935
00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:13.800
<v Speaker 10>thanks to their resounding pounding of former number one defending

936
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:16.679
<v Speaker 10>champion South Carolina. The UCLA women are the top spot

937
00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:19.800
<v Speaker 10>in women's polls. That seventy seven to sixty two win

938
00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:22.440
<v Speaker 10>for the Bruins on Sunday happened before he sold out

939
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:27.039
<v Speaker 10>Pauley Pavilion crowd of thirteen thousand, six hundred and fifty nine.

940
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:29.920
<v Speaker 10>UCLA's men, on the other hand, have not only not

941
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:32.760
<v Speaker 10>sold out any home games against the likes of Lehigh

942
00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:35.639
<v Speaker 10>or Idaho State games that are all but guaranteed wins.

943
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:37.000
<v Speaker 10>You think the fans would definitely want to go out

944
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:40.440
<v Speaker 10>and see something like that. UCLA has even gotten fifty

945
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:43.360
<v Speaker 10>two hundred for a game, yet they averaged just over

946
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:47.760
<v Speaker 10>forty six hundred a game. Scheduling pushovers early in the

947
00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:51.320
<v Speaker 10>season has not been a problem for uk attendance wise,

948
00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:53.880
<v Speaker 10>or for Yukon or Kansas or North Carolina or you

949
00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:56.519
<v Speaker 10>know what, especially Louisville over here and they've got an

950
00:51:56.519 --> 00:52:00.000
<v Speaker 10>off campus young Center for their court. Cards are average

951
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:03.920
<v Speaker 10>dick over thirteen thousand, four hundred after four home games,

952
00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:08.519
<v Speaker 10>but UCLA. UCLA, in a metro area of some thirteen

953
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:12.639
<v Speaker 10>million with several hundred thousand alums, can't even get five

954
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:15.079
<v Speaker 10>thousand for a game. And while we're on the subject,

955
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:18.559
<v Speaker 10>what about my Hilltoppers. After four games, Western still hasn't

956
00:52:18.599 --> 00:52:22.440
<v Speaker 10>had more than forty six hundred show up, and they've

957
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:24.880
<v Speaker 10>averaged twenty four just over twenty four hundred for the

958
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:29.239
<v Speaker 10>last three home games alone at these two famous basketball schools.

959
00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:32.599
<v Speaker 10>I ask you, is this apathy or lack of marketing

960
00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:36.079
<v Speaker 10>to students in the lums, combination of both something else.

961
00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:38.719
<v Speaker 4>I like to know how the Western Knentuckuy women are drawing.

962
00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:43.000
<v Speaker 4>But to compare the two, one is relatively rural compared

963
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:45.800
<v Speaker 4>of course to UCLA. But Gary for years, when you

964
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:48.840
<v Speaker 4>were out there and you and I would communicate, you

965
00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:53.760
<v Speaker 4>were so angry as a basketball junkie when you went

966
00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:56.760
<v Speaker 4>to cover UCLA games that they didn't draw when they

967
00:52:56.800 --> 00:53:01.039
<v Speaker 4>had really good contending teams always out of UCLA as

968
00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:04.239
<v Speaker 4>a neighborhoods school Westwood. We all know that's a Lakers town.

969
00:53:04.239 --> 00:53:06.760
<v Speaker 4>But you're right they ought to draw more than that,

970
00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:10.079
<v Speaker 4>especially when the women draw the way they did. But

971
00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:12.559
<v Speaker 4>we've talked about the growth of women's basketball so far.

972
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:14.320
<v Speaker 4>I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

973
00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:19.400
<v Speaker 10>Sixth and final swig our friends at Awful Announcing had

974
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:21.199
<v Speaker 10>a headline Dick that hit home with me the other

975
00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:24.639
<v Speaker 10>day because this hits home with my career in radio.

976
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:25.679
<v Speaker 4>Quote.

977
00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:30.119
<v Speaker 10>Add incessant commercials to the list of Fox Big Noon complaints.

978
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:31.480
<v Speaker 4>It goes on.

979
00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:34.960
<v Speaker 10>Despite putting up huge ratings numbers, college football fans continue

980
00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:38.559
<v Speaker 10>to balk at the notion of noon eastern kickoffs. However,

981
00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:41.159
<v Speaker 10>you can add a new complaint following Saturday's Big ten

982
00:53:41.239 --> 00:53:43.920
<v Speaker 10>showdown between Ohio State and Indiana. Not only did it

983
00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:47.159
<v Speaker 10>turn into an early blowout, but the game itself seemed

984
00:53:47.159 --> 00:53:51.639
<v Speaker 10>to become something that occurred only between commercials. There was

985
00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:54.000
<v Speaker 10>a lot of social media complaints about the number and

986
00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:56.119
<v Speaker 10>length of the commercial breaks there. It's the same problem

987
00:53:56.199 --> 00:54:00.239
<v Speaker 10>I've had with college and pro football for years. Even

988
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:02.480
<v Speaker 10>it's even worse now, I think with the networks that

989
00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:05.599
<v Speaker 10>have overpaid for the broadcast rights and then they're trying

990
00:54:05.639 --> 00:54:08.199
<v Speaker 10>to make up the expenditures with added commercials, and you know,

991
00:54:08.199 --> 00:54:10.960
<v Speaker 10>the same things happen with radio. Sometimes. At KYLA we

992
00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:14.760
<v Speaker 10>had we had ten minute commercial breaks on radio. You're

993
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:17.239
<v Speaker 10>not gonna sit through half of that. Thankfully we got

994
00:54:17.239 --> 00:54:20.519
<v Speaker 10>the NFL red zone commercial free stuff. I'm just waiting

995
00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:22.440
<v Speaker 10>for somebody to do the same thing with college football.

996
00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:24.320
<v Speaker 10>I'll sign up for that in the New York millisecond.

997
00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:30.320
<v Speaker 10>But you you have withstood more TV timeouts than anyone

998
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:32.880
<v Speaker 10>else being on the ground on those game days where

999
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:34.760
<v Speaker 10>you had to sit and wait or stand and wait, wait,

1000
00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:37.000
<v Speaker 10>wait for the action. I ask you, are there too

1001
00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:40.119
<v Speaker 10>many of these TV timeouts? And will they get even longer?

1002
00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:43.280
<v Speaker 10>And will there be more of them go longer than

1003
00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:45.199
<v Speaker 10>maybe three minutes plus than we have now as we

1004
00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:45.800
<v Speaker 10>get into the.

1005
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:48.719
<v Speaker 4>Course, as the rights fees balloon, that's the way to

1006
00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:51.920
<v Speaker 4>get their money back. Ask for Foxy. They brag about

1007
00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:55.800
<v Speaker 4>the audiences they're getting for Big Noon, so if they can,

1008
00:54:55.960 --> 00:54:59.880
<v Speaker 4>they'll they'll capitalize on those numbers, cram in more spots

1009
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:02.800
<v Speaker 4>at a premium rate, and we all suffer for it.

1010
00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:05.119
<v Speaker 4>Gary Moore is our Western bureau chief. We'll come back

1011
00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:07.079
<v Speaker 4>with some hot regions. Just a minute here on six

1012
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:10.639
<v Speaker 4>thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big Blue and Sider.

1013
00:55:10.679 --> 00:55:13.159
<v Speaker 4>We're talking with Gary Moore. He is our West End

1014
00:55:13.159 --> 00:55:15.440
<v Speaker 4>bureau chief. You've heard two guys at a six pack

1015
00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:17.960
<v Speaker 4>time for a couple of hot reads. Gary. I don't

1016
00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:20.360
<v Speaker 4>know if you saw it, but I directed you to

1017
00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:24.800
<v Speaker 4>the video. This was after a cal Win talking about

1018
00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:30.119
<v Speaker 4>football in Berkeley, the equipment manager for Cal standing on

1019
00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:34.679
<v Speaker 4>the sidelines standing watch, and a fan quote unquote kind

1020
00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:38.239
<v Speaker 4>of saunters up looking this way, but then suddenly he

1021
00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:42.800
<v Speaker 4>looks that way, steals a jersey and runs off at

1022
00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:47.280
<v Speaker 4>top speed. The manager saw it, took off running, tackled

1023
00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:50.599
<v Speaker 4>the guy, got the jersey back. I think this guy

1024
00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:52.519
<v Speaker 4>would be given a varsity letter for that.

1025
00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:56.599
<v Speaker 10>I think I enjoyed that as much as I enjoyed

1026
00:55:56.760 --> 00:55:58.719
<v Speaker 10>when he was in front of the They did a

1027
00:55:58.760 --> 00:56:01.440
<v Speaker 10>breakdown of what happened in front. I don't know if

1028
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:03.400
<v Speaker 10>you saw this in front of the team, but the

1029
00:56:03.400 --> 00:56:04.800
<v Speaker 10>team was watching film.

1030
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:06.719
<v Speaker 4>They brought him back in and.

1031
00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:09.519
<v Speaker 10>They replayed the whole thing, and all the players stood

1032
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:11.599
<v Speaker 10>up and went crazy when he tackled the guy.

1033
00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:14.880
<v Speaker 4>Just taking it up as flawless. It was a beautiful thing. Yeah.

1034
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:16.719
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, these guys were just like cheering them on.

1035
00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:17.480
<v Speaker 4>That's great.

1036
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:20.079
<v Speaker 10>I mean, it's bad enough they're gonna they're gonna storm

1037
00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:22.519
<v Speaker 10>the field. But you know, stuff like this has probably

1038
00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:24.920
<v Speaker 10>happened at some other places. But a good friend of

1039
00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:26.920
<v Speaker 10>ours is the equipment used to be the equipment manager

1040
00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:29.239
<v Speaker 10>for Oregon, Oh After several years.

1041
00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:31.760
<v Speaker 4>These guys have got hawkeyes.

1042
00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:34.880
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, they're watching any kind of stuff like that, you know,

1043
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:37.920
<v Speaker 10>whether they're behind the stands or people are yelling stuff

1044
00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:40.119
<v Speaker 10>or they're throwing stuff. Much less you're gonna come down there.

1045
00:56:40.119 --> 00:56:42.760
<v Speaker 10>They will guard this stuff like a hawk.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep. Finally coming up next in our final segment, as

1047
00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:51.000
<v Speaker 4>we make way early for UK women's basketball, My tribute

1048
00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:55.880
<v Speaker 4>to Turkeys Away the episode at w Caripeine, Cincinnati, and

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00:56:55.920 --> 00:56:58.480
<v Speaker 4>everybody knows what happens in it, but it's it's so

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00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:02.199
<v Speaker 4>classic and and uh, I know, I love that show

1051
00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:04.039
<v Speaker 4>and I came to it late, probably when it was

1052
00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:06.679
<v Speaker 4>in reruns. I was working in radio and Your Life's

1053
00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:10.840
<v Speaker 4>been radio. But that was just another There were so

1054
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:14.320
<v Speaker 4>many great episodes. I mean, they did an episode after

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00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:17.480
<v Speaker 4>based on the Who Concert where people actually lost their

1056
00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:20.320
<v Speaker 4>lives and had this finesse it through the network. But

1057
00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:23.960
<v Speaker 4>it was hilarious and it wasn't totally accurate. No, they

1058
00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:28.280
<v Speaker 4>didn't wear headphones, you know, but it was so representative

1059
00:57:28.920 --> 00:57:33.239
<v Speaker 4>every character of someone everybody knew in radio. We could

1060
00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:34.679
<v Speaker 4>all relate. Well.

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00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:36.440
<v Speaker 10>I think some of the people involved with it. I

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00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:40.000
<v Speaker 10>believe Hugh Wilson was one of the creators, and he

1063
00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:43.280
<v Speaker 10>worked at WQXI in Atlanta from what I remember, yeah, yeah,

1064
00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:46.239
<v Speaker 10>and Quick See and Dixie and he had some some

1065
00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:48.679
<v Speaker 10>input obviously, so there was there was some roots in it.

1066
00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:51.400
<v Speaker 10>But I was working for WBGN and Bowling Green when

1067
00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:53.400
<v Speaker 10>I was going to WKU at the same time, and like,

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00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:56.360
<v Speaker 10>this show's a revelation and it's a show that the

1069
00:57:56.880 --> 00:58:00.480
<v Speaker 10>guys in the radio business, how cool is this? And

1070
00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:02.159
<v Speaker 10>I absolutely loved it. And when I would come up

1071
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:05.199
<v Speaker 10>to Lexington and hear you guys and that could pick

1072
00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:08.960
<v Speaker 10>up w k r C. Yes, is this the station?

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00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:11.440
<v Speaker 10>Is this like a part of one of the stations?

1074
00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:14.119
<v Speaker 10>And here how professional it was? It just furthered my

1075
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:16.000
<v Speaker 10>interest in radio. It kind of got me going.

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00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:19.199
<v Speaker 4>And you being such a music guy, you had to

1077
00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:22.920
<v Speaker 4>like the music. They got rights to play some decent music,

1078
00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:26.159
<v Speaker 4>little clips of it that doctor Johnny Fever would play.

1079
00:58:26.199 --> 00:58:28.519
<v Speaker 4>And what I loved about that characters They added Mug

1080
00:58:28.760 --> 00:58:31.639
<v Speaker 4>with all his air names, you know, and we all

1081
00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:35.039
<v Speaker 4>knew about that. Yeah, we all knew people. I room

1082
00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:38.920
<v Speaker 4>with a guy, uh he just passed Sally not long ago.

1083
00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:41.320
<v Speaker 4>But and you knew him. You work with him. Robert Lindsay,

1084
00:58:42.039 --> 00:58:46.679
<v Speaker 4>but a program director who hired him said, ah, that's

1085
00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:49.880
<v Speaker 4>not how about you be the real Neil Steele.

1086
00:58:50.159 --> 00:58:52.920
<v Speaker 10>And that's what he was, I know, to take up

1087
00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:55.760
<v Speaker 10>to take up on the real Don Steele exact Los

1088
00:58:55.760 --> 00:59:00.840
<v Speaker 10>Angeles exactly. Yeah, Robert Radio Radio, Robert, Yeah, oh man.

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00:59:01.239 --> 00:59:04.760
<v Speaker 4>I so enjoyed it. But even people who aren't huge

1090
00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:07.199
<v Speaker 4>fans of the show, I guarantee you they know the

1091
00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:09.639
<v Speaker 4>payoff line and what happened at the end and there's

1092
00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:12.159
<v Speaker 4>you know, with a turkey drop and all that. And

1093
00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:15.840
<v Speaker 4>you'll learn more in my next segment about the history

1094
00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:21.320
<v Speaker 4>of a turkey drop that inspired this episode. Really. Yes

1095
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:25.880
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't out of a helicopter, but something like that

1096
00:59:26.079 --> 00:59:29.639
<v Speaker 4>really happened, and that Atlanta station you talked about was

1097
00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:33.199
<v Speaker 4>involved in a way. So that's coming up next. Please

1098
00:59:33.199 --> 00:59:36.119
<v Speaker 4>stay tuned for that. But also say thank you to Gary,

1099
00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:38.760
<v Speaker 4>our West End bureau chief, who can be seen and

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00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:41.920
<v Speaker 4>found and heard on Twitter at at nine to five

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00:59:41.960 --> 00:59:42.280
<v Speaker 4>to five.

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00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:46.440
<v Speaker 10>Gary, and you are on the same platform thing whatever

1103
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:46.760
<v Speaker 10>it is.

1104
00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:51.880
<v Speaker 4>Now Bluegrass, Big Blue Insider One. Have a great holiday,

1105
00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:57.679
<v Speaker 4>Happy Thanksgiving. Up next to tribute to WKRPS turkey episode,

1106
00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:00.119
<v Speaker 4>and then we'll make way for UK women's basketball, all

1107
01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:03.079
<v Speaker 4>the Wildcats in Illinois coming up with Darren Heddrick on

1108
01:00:03.159 --> 01:00:05.760
<v Speaker 4>the call his pregame at seven forty five. Here on

1109
01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:10.159
<v Speaker 4>six thirty WLAP Welcome back to the Big Blue inside here.

1110
01:00:10.360 --> 01:00:12.679
<v Speaker 4>This is the final segment because we're gonna make way

1111
01:00:12.719 --> 01:00:16.519
<v Speaker 4>for Darren Hedrick and UK women's basketball as the Wildcats

1112
01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:20.880
<v Speaker 4>take on Illinois in the Music City Classic down in Nashville.

1113
01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:26.159
<v Speaker 4>This is played at Treveca Nazarene University's Trojan Field House.

1114
01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:28.960
<v Speaker 4>So we're gonna jump out of here and Darren will

1115
01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:30.920
<v Speaker 4>have pregame coming up in a couple of minutes. But

1116
01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:34.519
<v Speaker 4>as promised, I wanted to leave you with everybody's favorite.

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01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:40.320
<v Speaker 4>This is from the Turkeys Away episode of WKRP in Cincinnati.

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01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:44.079
<v Speaker 4>It is considered one of the most famous, revered episodes

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01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:46.559
<v Speaker 4>of the show and really in all of the history

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01:00:46.599 --> 01:00:50.960
<v Speaker 4>of sitcoms, and in fact, in nineteen ninety seven, TV

1121
01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:56.400
<v Speaker 4>Guide ranked Turkeys Away episode at number forty on its

1122
01:00:56.480 --> 01:01:00.760
<v Speaker 4>one hundred Greatest Episodes of All Time. Twenty nine it

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01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:03.480
<v Speaker 4>was moved down to sixty five. I don't know where

1124
01:01:03.519 --> 01:01:06.400
<v Speaker 4>it is now within one hundred greatest episodes, but it's

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01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:08.800
<v Speaker 4>got to be up there. It's got to be up there.

1126
01:01:09.480 --> 01:01:12.960
<v Speaker 4>Back in ninety seven, the very first at the top

1127
01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:16.000
<v Speaker 4>of the list was the Mary Tyler Moore Show Chuckles

1128
01:01:16.039 --> 01:01:19.400
<v Speaker 4>bites the dust And you know, I don't know what's

1129
01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:22.800
<v Speaker 4>on top now. You'd have a hard time replacing that

1130
01:01:22.840 --> 01:01:26.960
<v Speaker 4>one as number one. But Turkey's Away belongs on the

1131
01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:31.239
<v Speaker 4>top one hundred list to me, forever and for all time.

1132
01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:36.079
<v Speaker 4>And you know the story WKRP, the station in Cincinnati

1133
01:01:36.159 --> 01:01:40.519
<v Speaker 4>that featured doctor Johnny Fever and Venus fly Trap and

1134
01:01:40.639 --> 01:01:45.559
<v Speaker 4>les Nessman and Bailey Quarters. They decided they would thanks

1135
01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:51.440
<v Speaker 4>to the Big Guy, Arthur Carlson stage Thanksgiving promotion. Right,

1136
01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:56.239
<v Speaker 4>and so the Less goes to report on it in

1137
01:01:56.280 --> 01:02:00.280
<v Speaker 4>a live remote and you hear doctor Johnny Fever talking

1138
01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:03.159
<v Speaker 4>it too, Less out in the field, and what comes

1139
01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:08.559
<v Speaker 4>next is radio magic and its history. Less.

1140
01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:11.360
<v Speaker 1>You're still there, yes, Johnny, you see anything yet?

1141
01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:12.360
<v Speaker 4>Well?

1142
01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:14.800
<v Speaker 5>No, there's quite a crowd, though. Where's the big guy.

1143
01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:17.679
<v Speaker 3>I don't know where Carlson is, but we're coming to

1144
01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:18.840
<v Speaker 3>you right after this record.

1145
01:02:18.840 --> 01:02:21.079
<v Speaker 5>Okay, okay, no problem, I can have one.

1146
01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:22.800
<v Speaker 4>Okay, it's real close.

1147
01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:31.920
<v Speaker 3>Yes, all right, fellow babies and Now it's time to

1148
01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:33.920
<v Speaker 3>go to our live remote man on the scene at

1149
01:02:33.920 --> 01:02:37.880
<v Speaker 3>the Pinedale Shopping Mall for the big WKRP Turkey giveaway.

1150
01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:40.639
<v Speaker 10>So take it away, less Ness Man.

1151
01:02:41.119 --> 01:02:42.800
<v Speaker 5>This is less Ness Wan. You're man on the scene

1152
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:45.079
<v Speaker 5>here at the Pinedale Shopping Center with the excitement is

1153
01:02:45.119 --> 01:02:47.719
<v Speaker 5>mounting wave here to witness the big wk on nel

1154
01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:49.280
<v Speaker 5>Rookie Thanksgiving giveaway.

1155
01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:52.800
<v Speaker 4>You got permission to be out here? What you're blocking

1156
01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:55.000
<v Speaker 4>my store here? Buddy?

1157
01:02:55.039 --> 01:02:58.639
<v Speaker 5>Don't you know who I am? Huh, I'm less Nessmund.

1158
01:02:58.719 --> 01:03:02.280
<v Speaker 5>I won the Buckeye Newshook Ward last year for you,

1159
01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:05.400
<v Speaker 5>buck guy, and now get out of my doorway. I'm sorry,

1160
01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:11.920
<v Speaker 5>it's freep door far so good. I hear hundreds of

1161
01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:13.960
<v Speaker 5>people who have gathered to witness what has been described

1162
01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:17.599
<v Speaker 5>as perhaps the greatest Turkey event and Thanksgiving dang is great.

1163
01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:19.039
<v Speaker 5>All we know for sure is that in a very

1164
01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:20.840
<v Speaker 5>few moments they're going to be a lot of happy

1165
01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:27.719
<v Speaker 5>people out here. Now the crowd is the crowd is uh, curious,

1166
01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:32.360
<v Speaker 5>but well behaved. And I think I hear something now

1167
01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:37.400
<v Speaker 5>the crowd is moving out into the parking area and

1168
01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:41.280
<v Speaker 5>oh yes, I can see it now. It's a it's

1169
01:03:41.360 --> 01:03:46.239
<v Speaker 5>a hell a copter and it's coming this way. It's

1170
01:03:46.280 --> 01:03:48.519
<v Speaker 5>flying something behind it. I can't quite make it out.

1171
01:03:48.559 --> 01:03:57.440
<v Speaker 5>It's a large banner and it says, uh, happy things kidy.

1172
01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:08.159
<v Speaker 4>From you. Hey, what a sight?

1173
01:04:08.239 --> 01:04:09.519
<v Speaker 8>It is, just what a sight.

1174
01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:12.639
<v Speaker 5>The cupter seems to be circling in the parking area

1175
01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:14.880
<v Speaker 5>now I guess it's looking for a place to land. No,

1176
01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:16.679
<v Speaker 5>something just came out of the back of the helicopter.

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01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:21.760
<v Speaker 5>It's a dark object, perhaps a skydiver, plumbing too to

1178
01:04:21.800 --> 01:04:25.280
<v Speaker 5>the earth, only two thousand feet of the air, second

1179
01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:25.920
<v Speaker 5>to the third.

1180
01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:28.920
<v Speaker 4>There's no hursh you.

1181
01:04:29.079 --> 01:04:35.079
<v Speaker 5>Yet, you can't be skydivers. I can't not your cat

1182
01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:35.559
<v Speaker 5>what they are.

1183
01:04:35.639 --> 01:04:40.039
<v Speaker 4>But oh my god, they're turnkey. Get this.

1184
01:04:40.679 --> 01:04:44.639
<v Speaker 5>They're crunching to the earth right right, always gonna wandering

1185
01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:45.880
<v Speaker 5>to win you hot hard.

1186
01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:48.840
<v Speaker 8>It's colors running.

1187
01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:49.480
<v Speaker 5>Around pushing each other.

1188
01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:52.440
<v Speaker 4>Oh my, oh but you moment in.

1189
01:04:54.159 --> 01:04:56.599
<v Speaker 5>Lemming at Bobs the turkeys are hitting the ground like

1190
01:04:56.719 --> 01:04:57.880
<v Speaker 5>sets of wet semans.

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01:04:59.079 --> 01:04:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Site.

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01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:01.920
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how much longer there you try is

1193
01:05:01.960 --> 01:05:02.880
<v Speaker 5>running for their lives.

1194
01:05:03.719 --> 01:05:05.920
<v Speaker 4>Why did I go to stepping site? I can't stay

1195
01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:07.679
<v Speaker 4>up here and watch the city, as you know, I

1196
01:05:07.719 --> 01:05:15.000
<v Speaker 4>can't go in. There hasn't been anything like that.

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01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:17.320
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how much longer I can all my

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01:05:17.400 --> 01:05:18.599
<v Speaker 5>division here, Johnny.

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01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:23.599
<v Speaker 9>The last last are you there?

1200
01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:25.159
<v Speaker 4>Less?

1201
01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:25.599
<v Speaker 3>Isn't there?

1202
01:05:29.519 --> 01:05:32.199
<v Speaker 9>Thanks for that? On the spot report last.

1203
01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Both just tuned in the finale shopping mall has just

1204
01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:41.920
<v Speaker 3>been bombed with Mill and eleven.

1205
01:05:44.719 --> 01:05:46.719
<v Speaker 4>Then you cut to the last scene where let's return

1206
01:05:46.840 --> 01:05:50.039
<v Speaker 4>to the station, followed by Arthur Carl's scenes with the

1207
01:05:50.119 --> 01:05:51.960
<v Speaker 4>famous last line.

1208
01:05:52.639 --> 01:05:53.239
<v Speaker 5>Are you okay?

1209
01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:57.119
<v Speaker 4>I don't know? The man and his two children tried

1210
01:05:57.159 --> 01:05:57.559
<v Speaker 4>to kill me.

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01:06:00.559 --> 01:06:03.679
<v Speaker 5>After the turkeys hit the pavement, the crowd kind of scattered,

1212
01:06:03.719 --> 01:06:07.800
<v Speaker 5>but some of them tried to attack me, told jam

1213
01:06:07.920 --> 01:06:12.440
<v Speaker 5>myself into a phone booth. Then mister Carlson had the

1214
01:06:12.519 --> 01:06:15.119
<v Speaker 5>helicopter land in the middle of the parking lot. I

1215
01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:17.079
<v Speaker 5>guess he thought he could save the day by turning

1216
01:06:17.079 --> 01:06:24.679
<v Speaker 5>the rest of the turkeys loose. It's pretty strange. After that, all,

1217
01:06:25.039 --> 01:06:27.880
<v Speaker 5>let's come on, I'll tell us the rest. I really

1218
01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:31.519
<v Speaker 5>don't know how to describe it. It was like the

1219
01:06:31.599 --> 01:06:37.320
<v Speaker 5>turkeys mounted a counter attack. It was almost as if

1220
01:06:37.320 --> 01:06:47.960
<v Speaker 5>they were organized. As God is my witness. I thought

1221
01:06:48.039 --> 01:06:48.920
<v Speaker 5>turkeys could fly.

1222
01:06:53.519 --> 01:06:55.320
<v Speaker 4>Now, believe it or not, this was based on a

1223
01:06:55.400 --> 01:06:59.199
<v Speaker 4>true story, although it's debated as to where it happened.

1224
01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:02.199
<v Speaker 4>Some people people believe it happened at an Atlanta radio

1225
01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:07.199
<v Speaker 4>station WQXI. They called it Quicksie, and that the general

1226
01:07:07.320 --> 01:07:09.840
<v Speaker 4>manager character was based in part of the guy named

1227
01:07:10.199 --> 01:07:15.760
<v Speaker 4>Jerry Bloom. But Bloom's son Gary said that this was

1228
01:07:15.880 --> 01:07:18.760
<v Speaker 4>not It didn't happen at the Atlanta station, but his

1229
01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:21.840
<v Speaker 4>dad had worked at a station in Dallas in the

1230
01:07:22.039 --> 01:07:24.960
<v Speaker 4>fifties and they did a turkey drop, or actually they

1231
01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:28.159
<v Speaker 4>threw them off the back of a flatbed truck and

1232
01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:30.960
<v Speaker 4>things did not go really well. And by the way,

1233
01:07:31.079 --> 01:07:33.519
<v Speaker 4>the famous line at the end was actually a take

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01:07:34.119 --> 01:07:38.119
<v Speaker 4>on something that Bloom told the Atlanta Journal Constitution in

1235
01:07:38.239 --> 01:07:42.280
<v Speaker 4>nineteen ninety six. He actually said, I didn't know turkeys

1236
01:07:42.360 --> 01:07:47.440
<v Speaker 4>couldn't fly, which of course inspired Arthur Carlson's famous line.

1237
01:07:47.760 --> 01:07:49.440
<v Speaker 4>But I did want to share that with you as

1238
01:07:49.519 --> 01:07:53.360
<v Speaker 4>we headed into the Thanksgiving weekend, and I thought I

1239
01:07:53.400 --> 01:07:56.280
<v Speaker 4>had heard someplace that this was based on an event

1240
01:07:56.360 --> 01:08:00.639
<v Speaker 4>that actually did happen, but wasn't the entire sure where.

1241
01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:03.119
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, the Internet's got it. Although, as we said,

1242
01:08:03.199 --> 01:08:05.840
<v Speaker 4>some believe it happened in Atlanta, but the man who

1243
01:08:05.960 --> 01:08:09.360
<v Speaker 4>worked at both stations, both the WQXI and at the

1244
01:08:09.440 --> 01:08:13.039
<v Speaker 4>station in Dallas, said no, it happened in Dallas, but

1245
01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:15.920
<v Speaker 4>they did something else in Atlanta. But the turkey drop,

1246
01:08:15.960 --> 01:08:18.560
<v Speaker 4>which was actually off the back of a truck, happened

1247
01:08:18.560 --> 01:08:21.399
<v Speaker 4>in Dallas in the fifties. And by the way, WQXI

1248
01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:25.319
<v Speaker 4>and Atlanta still exists as a Korean language station, which

1249
01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:27.960
<v Speaker 4>I thought was pretty interesting. We're going to get out

1250
01:08:27.960 --> 01:08:30.439
<v Speaker 4>of the way and make room for Darren Headwick's pregame

1251
01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:34.199
<v Speaker 4>coming up. It's the UK Women taking on Illinois down

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<v Speaker 4>in Nashville, part of the Music City Classic. And then

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<v Speaker 4>of course on Friday, it's Kentucky the Men back home

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<v Speaker 4>in rubb aerna At taking on at Georgia State at

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<v Speaker 4>seven o'clock. We'll have them before you right here. So

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<v Speaker 4>my thanks to you, have a great holiday, Be safe everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a good night from the garage in Lexington.

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<v Speaker 5>As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could.

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<v Speaker 2>Fly and

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<v Speaker 4>Names
