Speaker 1: Hi. This is Christina and Carmen and this is another
episode of a Spooky Twes, a podcast for all things
is booky, Hunted, Places, myths, legends, and true crime. Did
I already say that? I don't think so. But today
just one short Hunted story. We're still we're sill in
catchup mode. It's like preemptive ketchup because you know you're
gonna go on a trip soon. By the time this releases,
Carmen and I will be having some bomb ass Mexican
food at this bomb ass Mexican restaurant. Are they open Fridays? Oh?
You already want to go there? Yeah? Of course, yeah
we have. We have to go on Friday. We can't
go on Saturday because it's two packed on the weekend
and then we had to wait over two hours. Yes, okay, perfect. Yeah,
we're gonna be having Mexican food together. I didn't get
to go during Christmas, so yeah, I'm going for thirteen
weekday weekend, m okay weekend. So yeah, that's why we're
doing just a short, short, quick episode today. But before
we get into the topic, let's read a listener story.
If you have a story for us, you can email
us Pookya's at gmail dot com. You can damaz on
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You can submit it on Discord. There's so many ways
to get us your stories and we love receiving them. Okay,
and this listener's story is submitted by Blair Hi y'all,
longtime listener, first time submitting one of my creepy experiences.
This happened when I was about eight years old in
nal Palma in the state of Gueretro, Mexico. It was
me and three of my primos. Our parents had went
out to party, but us kids didn't want to go.
We stayed back watched The Simpsons Treehouse of Horror. It
was the only DVD we could find. As we're watching it,
we start to hear a very faint cry. We all
look at each other creeped out. We then turned to
look through the windows and we see a woman in
all white just standing outside of the family's property gate.
Her crying getting louder. We freak out and run to
go hide in my room. The crying is getting louder
before something starts just banging on the outside of the house.
After about three minutes, it stops. We stayed in my
room until our parents got back. It's still a thing
we all talk about today. We're not sure if it
was like Rona or the spirit of a young girl
who was murdered there back in the nineties. This is
just one of the many partneral experiences that I've had.
May not be the craziest, but hope you enjoy and
Blair send the rest of them to us. Blair, that
was like Rona, and yeah it was. It had to be. Yeah,
she was and white, she was crying, okay, and yeah
that was a listeners story. And for today's topic, again
a short one. We're in catch a mood because we
have things going on. One day we'll get back to
our normal format. Not today, but the top of today
is the Sidata Mexico Cathedral, the Mexico City Cathedral, because
according to legend, Mexico City underwent an exorcism and the
demon that possessed it is locked away in the catacombs
of the cathedral. So like a demon possessed all of
Mexico City. A demon was doing something, they did an
exorcism to make the demon stop doing that thing, and
now it's locked away in the cathedral and the catacombs
of the cathedral. Oh my god. But first a little
bit about the cathedral. The full name of the cathedral
is La cal Metropolitana de la Maria Loss. Wow, I
didn't know that. Mm hmm. And an English and Bia
is just throwing me here. I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, yeah,
in English, the Metropolitan Cathedral of the Assumption of the
Most Blessed Virgin Mary into Oh what that means? Yeah, yeah,
it doesn't mean. It doesn't mean she was out there
being adventuress aventuriando Aventuyah, not like Aventura who has fallen
into grace. No, yeah, I didn't know that meant blessed.
No me neither until I translated the name. Anyway. The
cathedral was built in sections from fifteen seventy three to
eighteen thirteen, first in sections around the original church that
was built right after the colonization of the Nose Stitlan.
This cathedral eventually replaced that church. That original first church,
and the cathedral was built on top of a Mechica
sacred precinct that was part of the Templo Mayor, which
was the main temple of the Mexica. It was called
Wai Tkali and it was dedicated to Witzilopotli, the deity
of all being solar and war A Thrilloch, the deity
of earthly fertility, water, giver of life and substance, hail,
thunder lightning, rain, and was associated with caves, springs and mountains,
and the central spire of El Templo Mayod was devoted
to keetal kuwat Aka, the feather serpent and the deity
related to wind, venus, sun, merchants, arts, crafts, knowledge, learning, wisdom,
intelligence so much. El Templo Mayod was built in thirteen
twenty five and then was rebuilt six times and it
was almost completely destroyed by the Spanish. Pisses me off
to no end of course, right, like they literally built
this on top. They're like, it's not even like a
metaphor for colonization and genocide. It's like the literal it's
it is colonization and genocide. Yeah, like the physical demonstration
manifestation of it. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. I believe
what the remains of a temple Mayor is the main
plaza of Mexico City and the cathedral. Back to that,
it took almost two hundred of the years to build it,
and because of the amount of time that it took
the time span. It has several different architectural styles, including Gothic, Baroque,
trutty Gesque. I've never heard of that. I only know
Neoclassical and Gothic. I've heard of Baroque. You've heard of Baroque. Okay,
you're more, you're classier than I. I am more culture cultured, Yeah,
culture if you will, yes, yes, of course. And yeah,
and Neo Classical is the other style that the cathedral
is built with. And it really is a site to see.
As we've already said in other episodes, for some reason
we've brought up the cathedral. We have talked about the cathedral,
Yes we have. It is beautiful. Yeah, there's bell towers
and across the two bell towers there's twenty five bells,
eighteen in the east bell tower and seven in the
West bell tower. And these bells are huge. The largest
weigst twenty nine hundred pounds, sorry, twenty nine thousand pounds.
You know, I can't fellow more. Wow, bigger wowow. And
that largest one it's named the Santa Maria Deja Lupe
even the bells have names, and an interesting story about
one of the bells. I don't know which one. I
couldn't find which bell, But in nineteen forty seven, a
novice bell ringer died in an accident when he tried
to move one of the bells while standing under it.
The bell swunk back and hit him in the head,
killing him instantly, and the bell was then punished by
removing the clapper. I think that's the thing inside. Yeah,
that rings I can never ring again. In the following years,
the bell was known as La Castigala, the punished one,
the mute one, and it wasn't until the year two
thousand that the clapper was reinstalled in La Castia. I
have heard this before, and probably during your tour tour.
I was going to say that had to be during
your tour of the cathedral. Sorry, I just needed to
say that I've been there. Of course, I would be
repeating it again to everyone, so I don't follow you
for that. Inside there are a couple of altars, the
Alter Forgiveness and the Altar of Kings. There's two stories
about the Altar of Forgiveness about how the name came
to be. The first story states that those condemned by
the Spanish Inquisition were brought to the altar to ask
for forgiveness into the next world before being executed, and
that's why it's called the Alter Forgiveness. The other story
is about a painter named Simon Parines, a Flemish painter,
and Flemish means like Dutch speaking from Flanders or Belgium. Oh,
I was about to ask, what is a Flemish. Yeah,
he's a Flemish painter and he had done several works
for the cathedral and he was accused of blasphemy, and
while in jail, he painted a beautiful image of the
Virgin Mary earning forgiveness. And then the altar was named
after this act of forgiveness, and that's why it's called
the Altar of Forgiveness. So those are the two stories.
There's also sixteen chapels in the cathedral. I'm not going
to name all of them, but there's a couple of
stories attached to one or two of them that I
did want to share because they are interesting. So the
first one is at the Chapel of Our Lady Antigua,
and this chapel was built between sixteen fifty three and
sixteen sixty. The chapel is home to Elino Caltibo or
the Captive Child, and this is a figure of Baby Jesus,
Baby Jesus that was brought over from Spain on its
way to Vera Cruz from Spain, pirates attacked the ship
and sacked it and they had to pay a large
ransom to get Baby Jesus back. The figure isn't in
the chapel anymore. It's in the chapel of San Pedro now.
But those who are seeking to be released from restrictions
or traps go to Elino Caltivo, especially those with financial
problems or addiction problems, also those whose family members have
been abducted and held from ransom. They also petitioned Ellino
so that Nino Cartillo isn't there, He's at another chapel.
But he used to be there. Yeah, he used to
be there. But I just thought that the story of
Elina Cartivo was interesting that order to share it. Yeah,
I mean pirates, pirates. Yeah. Another coop one is the
chapel of Saint Philip of Jesus, a friar and the
only martyr from New Spain who was crucified in Japan, Japan. Yeah,
and I should have looked up how this happened. But
it's interesting. Yeah. Yeah, I was like, oh wow, Filippe
Jesus Christopher in Japan. Why yeah, And they weren't trying
to colonize I mean Christians were trying to colonize Japan. True,
that must maybe that's how I saw that on the
show Shogun Shogun Show. I started that and I didn't
finish it. It's good, I need to finish it. Yeah.
The altar on the left is dedicated dedicated to Rose
of Lima, who was considered a protector of Mexico City.
And then to the right there's an urn that holds
the remains of Agustine. What is that sound familiar? He
was the first emperor of Mexico. Maybe after it sounds familiar? Yeah, yeah,
his remains are in there. Interesting. So the heart of
Anastasio Bustamente, Mexico's fourth president, is preserved in this chapel. O. Wow,
just got remains. This is like the most paranormal Gothic
thing ever. There's remains and hearts preserved in the chapel.
M h also to the body parts. Yeah, yeah, that's
why Catholics grow up to be like us. Speaky yes.
And the crypt of archbishops is located before the Altar
of Kings. The entrance is guarded by a large wooden door.
Inside when we want to open the door, there's this
winding yellow staircase, which is also creepy. Just past the entrance,
there's a cenotaph, which is like an empty grave or
tomb dedicated to someone, in this case, dedicated to Juan
de Sumarraga, the first archbishop of Mexico, and he is
considered to be the benefactor of the Indians, is what
they called him, because he was protecting them against the
abuses of the Spanish overlords. Oh okay, yeah. And on
the walls there's dozens of plaques indicating the remains of
most of Mexico City's former archbishops. So more bodies. And
there's something about like it makes it a cathedral because
there's bodies in there. Is that what I've heard before? Oh?
Is that right? Someone told me I was telling I
was trying to tell someone, was it? MJ. MJ probably
told us, Yeah, I was telling someone about the difference
between Basilica is cathedral English from Basilica or no, no,
because okay, well, I was like telling someone there's like
a difference between all these but I don't know what
it is. There is a difference between all of them,
and I've been told time and time again, and I
forget the difference. That I could be wrong right now,
but I haven't told the difference. The same point is,
I don't remember neither. And over the years, there's been
restoration efforts toward the cathedral because it's sinking. Also, there
was a fire that caused a ton of damage in
nineteen sixty seven, and the two thousand earthquake also caused damage.
The seventeen Yeah, what did I say two thousand? I
meant twenty seventeen, Yes, thank you. It caused a lot
of damage as well. And that was just a little
bit about the cathedral. Now onto the legend. According to
the legend, there's a demon trapped in the catacombs of
the cathedral. It all began when Mexico City flooded in
sixteen twenty nine. By this point, it had been raining
NonStop for thirty six hours, and the roads had become rivers,
water filled homes to seize animals floated along. Water levels
were over six and a half feet, and this flooding
something surfaced in the cathedral of Mexico City. Two friars
were checking the crypt area when they saw something in
the waters. It was a stone coffin floating. It was
full of symbols they didn't recognize. Probably meant do not open,
That's probably what they said. The young friar went to
get a closer look. This stone coffin had a corner
that was broken, and the younger friar decided to roll
up a piece of paper and stick it in the hole.
Never a good idea, no, he expected something like rats
or some kind of animal to pull on the paper.
But after what seemed like an eternity but really had
only been seconds, something pulled the paper. Freaked out the
younger fire yanked it out of the hole. That's when
they saw the paper was half burned, as if something
inside had set it a flame. Not naturale. No, they
decided to go and notify Pati Superior disappearor Father, and
they set off immediately, leaving the disturbing coughing behind. They
went back to the crypt with him, and upon seeing
the stone coffin Disappearor Father could only gasp and say,
oh my dear Tomo. He stated, this could only be
something evil, not human, and not an animal. He then
requested an emergency meeting with the Holy Office of the Inquisition.
In this meeting, they decided that they had to get
out whatever demon was inside that coffin. But what if
they just left it? Ry? I wonder? That night, only
the Friars and the Sapier Father were present. They tried
to open the stone coffin, but it would not bunch
a sign perhaps perhaps perhaps a meant to stop stop
by your head exactly exactly. After several attempts, the lid
opened by itself. When that happened, their candles all went
out at the same time, and there was a horrible
smell like what what beliet though, if you will mm
hmm silfur yes. Once they were able to get their
candles lit again, they saw muddy footprints surrounding the sarcophagus.
The footprints resembled that of an animal. As the Superior
Father looked around, he was mad with an even at
Wor's sight there were several dead Friars laying on the floor.
Holy shit, imagine seeing that, m m. It would be
a perfect movie scene. Honestly, they continued with the exorcism,
and throughout it they heard laughter and loud footsteps around them,
but they went on. As more hours passed, the Suparior
Father began to believe that it wasn't a demon they
were dealing with, that it was actually the deity of
rain and everything that falls from the skies. He believed
Michika Shamans had released La loc in hopes to see
the downfall of New Spain. If only, I mean, come on,
let them, I'm rooting for Sorry, are you familiar with
the let them theory? Shut them up. If somebody releases
an ancient deity to flood colonizers, let them, let them,
let them. If an ancient terror has a rose from
the ground to right the wrongs of colonization, let them
let them. This motivated the Father even more, and he
wavered through the exorcism. It went through the morning, but
legend tells that they were able to seal this demon
not actually a demon. It's not a demon. It's tale.
They're calling him a demon basically, but it's actually Ta Logue. Yeah,
leave him alone. But they were able to seal this
demon back into the stone coffin they put chains around
the stone coffin and then surrounded it with sacred symbols.
They moved the stone coffin underneath the tomb of Juan
de Sumaga, the first archbishop of Mexico, to ensure the
demon stayed sealed forever. And that is the legend. But
we had to provide some more information here. There are
some legends that have hints a facts documentation, mentions of
old codexes and whatnot, but this is not one of them.
The only thing that most definitely happened was the flood.
From sixteen oh seven to sixteen thirty, there was a
series of floods in Mexico City, and while the Spanish
might have loved to blame a Michiga deity for it,
it was actually their fault. The floating got that bad.
They built a city in a lake, and then the
what do they expect? Come on? The Spanish didn't have
the understanding or care for the land that the indigenous had.
The Michiga understood floods were necessary for agriculture. They built chinampas,
or floating agricultural islands. Yeah, I learned this intour, Oh okay, Yeah,
because you went to Mexico City. Yeah, exactly, yes, yes,
and you had to do several tours there. They embraced
the abundance of water. On top of that, they had
built their own system that also had in alberadon or dike.
A dike is built along the banks of a river
to prevent and overflow, kind of like a levee, but
there's a difference between the dike and a levee. If
river rises because of rain, a levee keeps higher than
normal water. There it's used for water that isn't normally
that high. But a dike fully encloses an area like
a bowl. So hopefully that made sense. Yeah, hopefully. Anyway,
the Aabaadon was ordered by Moktsuna the first and built
by Nissa Warcoyot, and it was expanded again during the
rule of Awitsot, but of course the Spanish destroyed this too.
They drained Lake Texcoco. They built the desage, the drainage
system to expand Mexico City past the island borders and
pass Lake tex Coco. The flooding directly correlates with the
construction of their de sage. They didn't account for heavy
rainstorms and for heavy rainfall combined with the draining of
Lake tex Coco, and this caused the flooding to be
as bad as it was because there was flooding during
the time of the Michiga. But they worked with it.
They it was natural. They had wisdom of the land exactly.
These dumb bitches didn't, and so it was their fault.
And Mexico City remained flooded for three years from sixteen
twenty nine to sixteen thirty one. Wow. Some sources stated
it was five years. And of course entire neighborhoods were
destroyed building people could only travel on canoes. They had
to build like floating bridges to be able to get by.
And they say that after the five year flooding at
least thirty thousand were dead. Wow. And they felt that
the flooding was like some sort of curse, some sort
of like punishment for something. Oh maybe they felt guilty
about something. I mean, what for what? I wonder? What for?
I don't know. In an attempt to get the flooding
to stop, the Catholic Church brought over the image of
Leavin the Lewyan Maria from Etcro de Payac over to
the cathedral and it was a possession of two hundred
small built in canoes, and she remained at the cathedral
for five years. Interesting and the following is an account
from Enrico Martinez, a cosmographer, someone who I don't know,
makes maps and describes maps and studies maps and maps
the world. Well back then maps were new, yeah, and necessary.
Well he was also new to New Spain. Quote. While
the rains were falling on September twenty first, Saint Matthew's Day,
a dreadful downpour lasted thirty six hours straight. The city
was completely flooded. Only part of the palace, the archbishop's houses,
Santa Teresace Street, and part of the Plaza Major were
spared from the furious onslaught of the waters. The convents
were abandoned, the churches were closed, commerce was paralyzed. Of
twenty thousand Spanish families, only four hundred remained in the
flooded city. The rest had fled to other cities and
towns save from the catastrophe, such as Puebla, Coyocan, Sanagusin
de Las s Cuebas, Tacuba, Mexico, Calsingo, and Texcoco end quote.
If only they had all left, right, so yeah, the
flooding part of the legend is absolutely undeniably real, and
you could even go to Mexico City today and find
a lion statue that depicts how far the water reached
during these floods. It's on Oh you saw that too
during your tour. I don't remember. Oh, okay, you were
not in like you like you have seen it. It's
on lak Malero, on a corner Maledo and Motolina to
be specific. And yeah, it's like over two meters tall
where this lion is at. The exorcism part of the
legend is what cannot be verified at all because there's
other exorcism legends and stories that again, like we said,
you could find mentions of them in codex says or
old diaries or letters. They're like so and so got
an exorcism, but no, not this one. First mentions of
this legend date back to ninety seventy seven in a
magazine called Fate in their September edition under the title
The Demon in the Cathedral, and it was written by
Ramon Pantoja and Freeman Bound. And this story is actually
irually similar to a nineteen sixty five story published in
a Mexican magazine called There Ends La Colonia, which featured
a story called El Misterio Sepulcro. And so that's seems
to be the origin of this legend from one of
those two magazines, but the legend continues to be told
time and time again. What do you think as a
complete fiction? Was there a demon? Was it? Taloque? Let
us know? But what do you think, Carmen? I think
it's fiction, Yeah, especially once you learn about the magazine.
Yeah stories, Yeah, and if a if part of it
was real, if it happened at all, that was not
a demon, that was punishment for the colonization of So yeah,
I just wouldn't I wouldn't want to be real because
I don't want that fate for thre look, you know,
to be locked up away? True? True, that would be
messed up to just lock someone who was once so
beloved and worshiped, right, kind of makes me think of
the god of Jaden Shadows my Si, my God, beautiful book.
I love that book. But yeah, that is it for
this episode, all right, Like we said, shorter episode. Hmmm,
do you have any speaky recommendations? My god, I haven't Eveen,
I haven't even been watching any horror. I watched this
really good anime movie called Tokyo Godfathers. I watch it
like the beginning of the year, so still Christmas time.
Basically it was like January second or something. But yeah,
it's like a honestly one of the best Christmas movies
out there. It follows these group of homeless people. It's
a teen, an older guy who's also like a drunk,
and then a trans woman, and they find a baby
and they make it their mission that Christmas is Christmas
when this is all happening, to reunite that baby with
the mother. And then I just it's this journey of
self exploration and I don't know what it means to
be like people in a society caring for each other's
beautiful They go through it, they do, and yeah, it
was a beautiful movie. I highly recommend it. It's actually
streaming not to be right now, Oh yeah, to be.
We had a lot of good movies, so I guess
that will be my recommendation because yeah, other than that,
I've watched a really good documentary as well, oh, which
one might as well talk about it. Let me go
to it. By the way, I'm on letterboxed as a
spooky Christina altogether. If you want to follow me and
my reviews and what I'm watching, that's all on there.
But where is it? Where are you diary? There? It is.
It's called The Cover Up, and it's on This one's
on Netflix, and this one let me give you this synopsis.
For the past six decades, Seymour hersh has been at
the front of at the front lines of political journalism
in the US. This engaging documentary, release at a crucial
moment for the freedom of the press, tells the wide
ranging story of this breakthrough reporter. He broke the story
of the my Lay massacre in Vietnam. Oh he also
broke another story about the Middle East, but I don't remember.
And in the documentary he's doing a reporting with trusted
sources in Gaza and it just like all I wrote about.
It was from Vietnam to Gaza and important documentary on journalism.
I highly recommend it, especially like right now, what is
it called The Good cover Up? Oh? Okay? What is
it not Netflix? Oh? Okay? And yeah, that's really only why.
I also watched this like love movie, romance movie, but
like it was like a punk romance movie today while
I was editing where did you find this? Or what
is it? This was on tub and actually shout out
to Mikey Parato Junior on both Instagram and TikTok. He
has so many recommendations. My watch list has grown so
much because of him. But I saw him talk about
the movie on TikTok and I was like, interesting, and
then get where it was streaming to be, I just
popped out. I love to be like hold on, hold
on to Be. But yeah, this came out in twenty twenty.
It's an independent film and let me read you the
synopsis and on the lamp, punk rocker and a young
woman obsessed with a local band go on an unexpected
and epic journey together through the Decayne suburbs of the
American Midwest. And at first I was like, what the
fuck am I watching? Like this is fucking weird, and
then after that I was like, You're like, oh, this
is beautiful. I want what they have. Oh this is
the best love story I have ever seen. Because at
first you're like, Okay, I get it. You're an angry
punk rocker, you're mad at the world, Okay. And also
there's like a lot of like our slurer word usage.
It feels like this movie would have been made in
like twenty ten, but it was made in twenty twenty.
But then by the end of it, I I was
spruting for them. It was it was beautiful and it's
actually stars. Do you remember the guy that gets killed
in Jennifer's body. I think that's where you would recognize
him the most, the one that was the boyfriend. No,
the like punk rocker who has a crush on Jennifer. Oh, okay,
or you know, I don't know Goth. I don't know
what he's supposed to be in Jenan's body anyway, him
what's his name, Kyle? I would not know his name anyway,
Kyle Gallner, Gawner. He's he's like a scream queen, but
you know guy scream King. Yeah, yeah, I recognize him.
He's in everything horror related. But I think you would
recognize him the most from Jennifer's body. But yeah, he's
the punk rocker, of course he is, Like who else
would it be. He's been a typecast, yes, yes, but no,
by the end of it, I was like, no, this
was actually good. But in the beginning, I was like,
I might stop this it was very Napoleon Dyna. My
meets like I don't know, five hundred days of Summer
except like five hundred except they're punk rockers. Yeah. Yeah, well, no,
the girl is like a very awkward she's I think
she was supposed to be like a manic pixie dream girl.
But it's past that this girl is an autistic queen.
So it was it was a it was overall, it
was good. I do interesting. Okay, now that's enough. That's
one of my recommendations, none of them spooky. Yeah, I
really I haven't really been watching much. I just finished
listening to the four Brag cartel. Oh that was really good. Interesting.
It's a nonfiction, I guess, investigative expose on the crimes
and corruption done by the special forces, including the Dots
of Force. And this is gonna sound like a ticktook
video that I'm about to U record it sound like
what like a TikTok video that I just recorded it
because I just remember what I said then, so I see,
I felt could timely read because it identally, the Delta
Force was involved in the abduction of my little that
recently happened, and they are notoriously the Delta Force known
for drug trafficking and drug consumption. Yeah, the very thing
that My Little was being is being accused of. So
a little little silly situation there, right, and also timely
because the author, who is an investigative journalist, Seth Harp,
is being subpoena by some committee in Congress or whatever
because he published publicly available information on one of the
commanders in the Delta Force that was involved in the
My Little operation. He's been accused of doxcene, but public
He's been subpoena for that supposed dox scene, which was
not doc scene because again it was publicly available information.
And so it really is just a suppression of his
first memon rights as a member of the press mm hm,
which is something the administration has been doing. Yeah, suppressing yeah,
premous speech. So yeah, yeah it was good. I will
say there was one part where Seth Harp just casually
mentions like the Wuhan lab Laque conspiracy, as if it
was real. I don't believe in that conspiracy. It's been debunked,
and he just says, I'm like, oh, the it was
like I think he was referring to something that happened
during COVID and he's like, oh COVID when it was
leafd fro the Wuhan lab and I was like, what,
oh I saw excuse me? Did you just say that
Seth did Seth? But other than that, I mean the
information that he had a lot of it has been corroborated.
Is the actual some things that's like, oh, so and
so said this and that about like family members involved
with those and adulta hordes and whatnot. But it was
still like an important read and a lot of it.
I think it's true. So I've been meanting to read that.
I have the audiobook and listen to it, and I
still haven't listened to it. Yeah, yeah, okay, all right,
well I guess this brings us to the end of
the episode. All right, I don't know. Free from the
Cathedral hashtag free track from the Cathedral. Yes, stay spooking.
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