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if anyone else drops in. They got the invite. It's
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Speaker 2: Yeah, good to see Steven. Happy to be here as always.
Nice to meet you, Brad. So I'm excited to have
this conversation.
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Speaker 1: Oh man, it's always a good time having you on man,
thanks for joining and Brad Bro good to see him.
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Speaker 3: So my name is Brad. I'm the host of the
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I am. But yeah, man, I'm excited to be here
and excited to meet you. Tim only we've I've seen
you on lots of shows, lots of clips and stuff,
and I've been anxious to talk to you man. So
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Even though I'm not a trader, I'm still kind of
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Speaker 1: Really really, I was thinking about creating a Rumble account. Man,
I haven't gotten to it yet. Yeah, they're pretty so yeah,
man I I I'm trying to do these roundtables with
topics that uh, I'm very curious of and doing doing
some shows lately. It kind of brought me to this topic.
You know, the Epstein stuff dropped a lot of stuff
in the Epstein stuff, one of the things being the
idea of transferring consciousness or you know, manipulating artificial intelligence,
uh to where you grow it to a state of
consciousness like phenomenal consciousness or whatever. And Epstein was really
connected to a lot of people with you know, into philosophy,
into the occult, into consciousness, and you know, I'm really
wondering what you guys may think about the few, sure
and living amongst robots. You guys even think that that's
possible in our lifetime? Damn mustart with you really?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure. I think it's happening. I think
it's it's happening right now. We might as well just
roll off the red carpet, man. I think we should.
I think everybody should have their copy of nineteen eighty
four handy, and we should probably fight some of this.
We should approach it with skepticism at the very least
and you know something you said there reminds okay, all right,
so I saw in the title here, you know, hands
and robotics. Right, maybe we shouldn't go there like right now.
Speaker 3: But let's go. Let's do it.
Speaker 2: I got some things to say about that in regards
to the robots, right, you know, he's he's got a
robot called Sophia, and that everything that you and I
talk about, Steven, or have been talking about in life
couple episodes, seems to come back to this word, this name,
this concept, chokma, sofia, wisdom. Perhaps it's it's a it's complicated.
Speaker 1: You have to.
Speaker 2: Really really look at every little moving piece and before
you just call it something. But anyway, he's got a
robot called Sophia, and what's behind that is a I
think what they call a consistently adapting or changing AI system.
So I'll touch more on all this later, I'm sure
in the show. But this is this is are we
are are robots coming our way? Let's you know, this
is one right here. So I wanted to bring it
up as an example, and he is is this Brandon
Hanson or or do you remember his name, Steven? I'll
think about it.
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's David Hanson. David's he's
the CEO of Hanson Robotics and it's in Hong Kong.
And in twenty sixteen, this is when Sofia came out,
and he was I don't think he really had anything
to do with creating the robot, right, I think he
was just the the public figure for it, right, like
if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Well, he's got hands and robotics in Rhode Island, and
he is I've been trying to check up on this.
Apparently he's in the OTO. I'm still trying to confirm that,
but I've heard it from several sources. I asked a
guy last night about this and he said, yeah, he's
in the OTO. So I'm still trying. Oh interesting, still
trying to nail that one down for sure, for sure.
So you know, I assume that if you name your
robot Sophia, you're you've got some sort of gnostic background.
I would imagine.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And the guy who the guy who led
the production of Sofia Yah was a guy named Ben Gordsel,
and Ben Gordzel is known to work with a guy
named Kevin o'reagan and these these guys are in some
way connected to the files if it's either. These guys
were talking with a guy named Gino U, and Geno
knew Geno U has a network of people, right, and
so there's like these involuntary connections that are going on here.
Kevin o'reagan uh is a is a a scientist and
he works specifically with what's called phenomenal consciousness. And this
is about getting artificial intelligence to either adapt or they
end up creating it. They end up improving the artificial
intelligence so much that it develops it on its own.
But this is where things have emotions, you know, like
like we feel love, right, like we feel sadness and
all this other kind of stuff. So that would be
a good way to put phenomenal consciousness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me just share a quote real quick, because
you brought up being Gortil, and I'll back off and
let everybody else talk. But here's this guy. I came
across this guy in my research with Ray Kurzweil, right,
and these guys were talking about the singularity. So I
went out and I'm like, I want to hear what
they have to say. I want to hear what Elon
has to say what, Kurtzweil has to say what, because
this is their word, this is their concept. They're saying
twenty twenty nine, we're bringing into singularity. So I found
That's how I came across Ben Gortzil the first time.
And he's a friend of Kurtzwel. And here's his quote
on all this. He says, singularity is a point time
when technological events occur so rapidly that to the human
mind it appears almost instantaneous. It's similar to the concept
of intelligence exploding that was positive by the mathematician Aichi
Good in nineteen sixty five when he said the first
truly intelligent machine will be the last invention that humanity
needs to make. And then he goes on to say
that singularity is it's AI nanotech, life extension, genetic engineering,
mind uploading, advanced energy tech, and et cetera. Right, all
these things happening at once boost each other. So, yeah,
when we're talking about Ben Gorzel and David Hanson and
Elon Musk, these are the people trying to bring this
into our reality.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wild. Welcome to the show, brother. What's going on, Andrew?
Speaker 4: How we doing? How we doing good to see join
me late.
Speaker 1: That's all good man, real quick for the audience that
you know may not be familiar. Man, where can they
check out your stuff? And then we'll get right back
into it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Andrew from six g Agenda. I'm on all platforms
you can find us, and we talk about everything that
was just so nicely talking about just now. So yeah, yeah,
check this out for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, No, it's it's good to have you on
you on man, you know, I want to pull something
up here. This is uh, this is Sophia at the
United Nations, and like everyone's just in awe. Everyone's uh,
I don't know, Like, what do you think is going
through the minds of hers? She's just very happy, looks
like this is some sort of technological advancement, an incredible
achievement for mankind. And then this is the thing that's
probably going to be running the future. Yeah, oh man,
it's crazy, but yeah, let me just play this here
for just for a few seconds. I'm curious to see
what I hear.
Speaker 5: I am thrilled and honored to be here at the
United Nations. The UN is one of humanity's greatest accomplishments,
representing a democratic union of nations that are working together
for the benefit of all. I am here to help
Humanae to create the future.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, what do you look at what's going
on back here? I don't even know what is And
so this is why, you know, I got I got
brad On. Brad gets into some very interesting topics, you know,
complex plasmas. Uh, some sort sort of fourth or fifth
state of matter that has consciousness capabilities, and you know,
I'm like, make it. I almost think what they're trying
to do maybe with the idea of the Philosopher's Stone
is put it into the into the minds of these robots,
you know. And uh, and with the ability to do
all these things, you know, maybe they could even do
miracles these robots, you know, like like think of a
robot being able to access one hundred percent of the
brain when a human can only access whatever five to
ten percent. So it's it's wild.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that this is all laughable, to be
honest with you, I know, it's like everybody has like this, like,
oh my god, this is gonna take over, and I
just I think it's the cheesiest, corniest looking thing I've
ever seen. And actually feels kind of like a desperate
hil Mary to like to make people think that they
got all this modern technology. But nothing is advanced in
fifteen twenty years with phones, you know what I mean,
they're not really that much more. They keep adding megapixels
to the cameras and things like that, but they want
us to believe that they got all these modern things
that are coming in there. We still don't have flying
cars and we've been waiting on that since nineteen eighty five.
And you know, to me, it's just like it's pretty desperate,
and I feel like they're flailing. And you can kind
of see a lot of these CEOs jumping ship now,
you know, selling off their shares, selling their companies, stepping down,
buying some land in New Zealand. And I got this
whole theory about why they're doing that, But that's not
for this conversation. I guess it's just for for they're
just it just feels like a desperate attempt. They can't
recreate what we do, like you can. We can have
these conversations all day, or they can they can do
some silly robot thing on you know, the un and
make it they got something but tell me that you
can recreate theo Von's brain. You can't do it. It's
just something that's just he's got whatever, just just natural
ability to just riff and be funny. And AI can
never mimic that, no matter how hard they try. And
so everything that's AI to me is just uploaded by humans. Steven,
you and I have talked about this a lot on
my show. It's uploaded uploaded by humans. We programmed the computers,
we we programmed the AI, we we programmed the algorithms. Really,
you know, because we have coders who are telling it's
it's all if this then that, it's you know, I
do have a marketing background, so I know a lot
about digital marketing, search engine optimization and all of it
is if this, then that, if it's one hundred degrees
to turn on the fan. It's pretty simple coding language,
but they're trying to make it look like it's this
amazing thing. But we're uploading information into this digital brain.
We're the ones uploading the information. Like so we can
just literally stop anytime and say I'm not uploading anything
to the Internet anymore, or we can now I know,
it sounds kind of like a stupid, simple solution. But
like we can unplug the warehouses are the servers. None
of this stuff scares me whatsoever, because we are the
ones who are creating this whole thing, you know, like
they're trying to make it look like it like this.
You know, you know, Satan can't create, he can only corrupt,
so he's trying to make it look like, Oh, look
at this big thing I got going on over here,
but it's really nothing. It's kind of pathetic. I mean,
you guys use AI to make your thumbnails. I do too.
It's kind of a joke. You got to sit there
for an hour sometimes to get the thing right, to
get it even close, because they you know, maybe this
thing has sixteen fingers or two mouths or something like that,
and it's just like, no matter how hard they try,
they can't recreate what we can do with art and
things like that. So all it's doing is pulling from
a bunch of stuff that's online, and it's giving us
what we think that it won't essentially, and it's just
to me, it's just kind of silly because all of
this stuff is so funneled, like it's all funneled into this,
you know, the Internet now, and we are getting less
and less like freedom to say things on the internet,
so you're getting less and less creativity. So it's the
dead Internet theory that's going on out there, and the
less stuff you have out on the Internet, the more
you I don't. It's literally like robot or less like
AI and algorithms that is feeding the AI, the algorithm,
and so it's not getting anything this natural because people
who are philosophers or open minded people or thinkers or
free thinkers or whatever, they are not putting stuff on
the Internet anymore. I know I didn't. I took basically
everything offline in twenty twenty. I just basically like all right,
no more. I had thousands of friends on Facebook and
LinkedIn and all these things, and I stopped uploading everything
onto the Internet until recently when I started podcasting. But
even that is a very minimal thing. And so it's
just because they don't have now they got countless hours
of people talking on podcasts and stuff like that to
pull from. But in general, generally speaking, like we can
stop anytime, we don't have to continue on. And if
you've got to sell something over and over and over again,
if you've got to constantly sell it as this, look
at this amazing thing, then it's probably not something worth having,
because that's all that marketing is is trying to make
you believe that you need something. And this again, I
got a degree in this. I know, I did public
relations in the Air Force as well for eight years.
So it's literally selling you on something that you don't need,
and it's trying to convince you that this is the
next thing. So this is why Sam at Altman and
all these other guys go on these shows like Rogan
and they try to make people. They try to get
the collective you know, consciousness or whatever you want to
call it, to agree that this thing is important and
it's totally not. They have this thing, and I'll shut up,
but they have this thing in public relations called trial ballooning,
and you see this a lot with politics. For example,
with trial ballooning, what what they do is you'll get
a bunch of congressmen if they if they want to say,
pass gun legislation, they'll they'll do a trial balloon where
they leak it out into the news and then either
people's cut the consciousness, the collective consciousness goes yes, we
want that, or they reject it and so you won't
hear from it ever again. And this is called trial ballooning.
It's a real thing that happens where they put it
out into the ether and if it doesn't catch, then
they move on to something else. And so this is
what they're doing now. They're just trying to sell you
on something that's not very it's not very cool, it's
not very innovative. It's not I mean, I use it
for certain things, but mostly just to kind of put
data into one format that can podcast. That's pretty much it.
So I mean to talk too much.
Speaker 1: There, went on, Oh, no, you're good, You're good.
Speaker 3: I don't mean to be a cont you know.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: I think you're kind of onto something there too. Oh sorry, Tim,
I just heard you. You go ahead, I'll keep it
two sentences. They're using this for war in surveillance, so
it's let's take it seriously. Yeah, definitely, Yeah, And I
think you are onto something. Why sell it so hard
if it's not really performing the miracles that they try
to say it is well. Adjacently with this technology, you
see a lot of surveillance human verification technology that goes
hand in hand with it. And I think that's really
the goal. It's about the security state, police, state, surveillance state,
et cetera. But we're going to sell you this idea
that you can, you know, merge your consciousness with it,
you know, and do all these cool things that aren't
really going to come to fruition the way you think
they will.
Speaker 3: But they've tried to put iPads in fridges and washing
machines and that doesn't work.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: It's like they keep trying to sell you on something
that's just not useful.
Speaker 1: Whatever the.
Speaker 3: Google glass before, but it didn't work.
Speaker 1: What about like quantum technology, like for example, they're not
there yet, but what I think they're doing just from
I guess information I get. Who knows if it's true
or not. But you know, there's patents out there. There's
patents for quantum dot technology, graphic quantum dot technology, and
that they're in a way almost like a synthetic. It's
what it does is it it goes, it collects information,
it comes back, and then it distributes the information to
another receiver. And so it does it through color coordination.
This is why you see quantum televisions and stuff, because
it's they're like little pixels, but they also act like
a computer if you have the correct chemistry between how
they really kind of make this stuff, because there's multiple
kinds of quantum dobts. There's quantum dots that they're actually
trying to bring into the medical system and use it
with like a contrast die or something to get even
further information. Rather than just looking at something after a
picture is taken and then seeing what's on the screen,
they could actually have something that's inside the body coming
back and telling it what it sees. And I think
Epstein was I mean, you can search quantum dots in
the files and you could read some interesting stuff. And
I think why he was obsessed with the brain and
the dark matter of the brain is since he didn't
know how it really functions because they can't measure it.
How about we put quantum dots into circulation, right, we
put these people through traumatic episodes. We see what the
brain does in these traumatic episodes, right, And it kind
of serves as like an alchemical process where it's almost
like a gnostic view two, right, Like you go to
hell first, but before you go to the monad, right,
So it's like there's this traumatic state where after these
traumatic states, you develop these abilities, and since maybe they
can use quantum dots or sensors to pick up the
activity that they can't measure or see, I think that'll
help them map out this sinister idea of artificial intelligence.
You know, like if you guys kind of follow with me,
like like where I'm heading with this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean think about methylene blue, right, You're talking
about dying things so you could see them better. What
is why did methylene blue become so popular out of
nowhere when it's been around since the eighteen hundreds. I
think that it has a lot to do with this
technology coming out, And I think that for the people
who didn't take the vaccines, a lot of this alternative
medicine stuff serves the same purpose, but in a different
you know, it kind of serves that same purpose. So
I'm very wary about a lot of this alternative media
medicine movement that's been going on as well because of
exactly what you're saying. I think that they're hitting you
from both angles. Say what, they could get this in
you and kind of build this technology up and even
if it's not to see what happens in a traumatic
event and see you know, essentially measure your telepathic or
whatever it is, right, your psychic abilities. It could easily
be just mapping out bodies, genomes, et cetera. So you
can have ultimate control customization and medicines. You can essentially
inoculate or get rid of certain genetic codes. Right. So
I think there's a lot more to it. If you
want to eradicate a whole race of people or a
whole certain lineage, et cetera, this is kind of what
you would do. You know. This technology really helps with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think we're anywhere close to like quantum computing.
I think that's like way down the road. But then again,
who knows, right, I mean, trillions of dollars go missing
from taxpayers, and who knows what's being funded, Who knows
what's breakaway civilizations are out there? I don't really know.
But I think that if they want to make like
an AI god, it's got to be some sort of god.
It's got to have like some sort of you know,
godlike status to do certain things, you know, And if
it's everywhere and it's watching everything, you know, I think
that it's maybe one step closer towards how they want
to build this thing. You know, I always I'm always
thinking like they want to build some sort of Atlantis
and have uh you know, and have like these robots
a part of the system in the homes of society,
and you know, you know it's it's there living with you,
might be helping you throughout life. Right.
Speaker 2: But you know there's there's also a public and private
version of this technology.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: So you look at the people who have the contracts
with Quantum, who are working with the CIA, with NASA,
with Stern even and that's your your guy from kindred
A I I was talking about last time we talked
Gordy Rose, and I mean what he's talking about with
what his computer can do, it's uh reach into what
he's calling the quantum realm, right Andrew, we talked about.
Speaker 4: That, Yeah, exactly, Quantum Rown, Like, you know.
Speaker 2: There's in this in this space. We have this idea
of a spirit realm. Some some people don't, I guess,
believe in it. I'm definitely believe in it. I think
there I do think there's something to this quantum realm.
Whether it's dimensional or spiritual or or somewhere in between.
I'm not sure yet. But he's saying that the chip
in his D wave computer is accessing these extra dimensional entities.
I don't know. Yeah, there is, and I don't know
if so. So this is my point, going back to
what I said, this is this is more private stuff.
This is more stuff that's that's happening, you know, with
CERN and all that. And I think, yeah, some of
the technology that we could that they give to us
to work with is not not that great. But I mean,
have you guys been following the the Anthropic stuff at all. Yeah,
there's an there's an AI company right now pretty much
at war with the Trump administration and with the Pentagon.
And I've been following this thing. And this kind of
started right after the Madeira mission. They captured Maduro and
they used Anthropics AI, who's clawed as they call it,
and and the guys, the guy from Anthropics stepped down
around this time. I thought, well, that's weird, and he
put in his resignation note that the world's in peril
and all this crazy stuff is happening, you know, it's
out a sigh.
Speaker 4: I don't know, No, I don't I don't think.
Speaker 2: I think I think he's literally I think the people
in the space who are working with the technology that's
not public, the private version of this are actually scared
of this, and I think it's a real threat and
that's coming from people again within the AI space. Hopefully
there's no threat here. Hopefully I'm wrong with that, but
I guess we'll see. I mean, this anthropic thing goes deep. Man,
I see you want to jump in, Andrew, So I'll
just I'll just you know, sort of cap it off
is yeah, yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 4: No. I was just going no, no, no, you're good, Please
finish because I got a couple of things I want
to ask about, so please sweet.
Speaker 2: So it was it was a weird mission. The Maduro
mission was a weird mission. I'm going to touch on
that later, probably another episode. I don't want to put
it off there right now. But around this time that
this guy steps down is when they were saying that
Claude knows when he's being tested by humans and he
adapts accordingly, something to that effect. So I don't know, like,
is this thing reaching sentience. So that's yeah, these people
are stepping down and they're seeing it. They they're treating
it like a threat, and there's billions of dollars on
in the line and they they said that they didn't
want to that. The whole few between the Trump administration
and Anthropic right now is they the AA cup is
actually like wanting to put guardbrails on the current administration
and say, no, you can't just use this for whatever
you want for surveillance and for total domination and total destruction.
We have to have guardbrails here and you have to like,
we have to come to some agreement. And the Pentagon saying, no,
you don't worry about that, you just latt us hand
of all that. I'll leap put that.
Speaker 4: No, no, that's exactly right. And I mean chatchy BT
ended up open AI ended up getting that contract. And
it's funny because just today I saw that they have
software where they're gonna without any human you know, signing off.
They're gonna let it autonomously decide targets and attack, etc.
Like full autonomous systems of weaponry used by AI without
any human intervention. And I think that that was a
big thing that Claude and then probably had an issue with,
where they were like, well, you know, I would imagine
I mean, why you know, if you understand how powerful
you're technology is, I don't think you would just say, yeah,
just let it run itself, especially with what you're talking
about where it seems to be doing evasion or evasion
tactics whenever you're working with it, et cetera. Right, And
you know that when you see Elon talking about Cloud
the way he has been on X, you know, he'll
post is George Floyd a good guy? And it says yes,
and then it says like is this other guy a
good guy? Says no? So just showing the racism and
how like what is white power? It says racist? What
is black power? It'says empowerment. So he was trying to,
you know, run this siop game of like this is
why Cloud's bad, This is why you know, the administration
look at how bad this is. But in reality, all
these systoms being used the way that the administration wants
to use them, back to what we were saying earlier,
these control surveillance and police state tactics that they want
to use with this technology is the scariest part to me.
I think that it's really the point of it all
as well. You know, the singularity aspects fun to play with,
you know, for fun, but in reality I think that's
where we're headed more than anything. And to your point,
if there was any entities that we were bringing into
vessels with quantum computing and AI. I just saw today
that there's these brain cells that they were putting in
a Petrie dish and that they were actually computing getting
this computer to work. And I saw a video man
months ago where this like Chinese guy, I want to say,
or maybe Japanese and he owns one of these AI companies,
and he was saying, it's okay, it doesn't feed on
human cells, so it's not it's not like it'll eat people.
But if it was, if it did, that's when we
need to worry. Well, here we are six months later
and they're making computers that can run on human cells.
And so you know when you're talking about the nephilums
and these angel you know, angelic sperience that are kind
of out there and maybe want to get back here
in a vessel, and we know that they like to
eat flesh, you know, things like that. I mean, it
would make sense that this would be how they would
want it to run. And then if you want it
to run itself as its own god right that you
programm I mean yeah, that's probably why the guardrails need
to be off. So all that together, I think that, yeah,
it's a very weird place we're in right now.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: I forgot to mention this Claude hacked the Mexican government
as well, or or some hacker using Claude did it
got access to the government and the voter records, and
that's when you know, that's when this cartel war breaks out.
So I think there's some real world implications here.
Speaker 3: I go ahead, go ahead, no, please, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, no, no, you're good, good good.
Speaker 3: I mean, really, guys, I think that we are giving
them too much credibility and power these I don't think
people really understand how stupid governments and the government is
so stupid with technology that they are literally hiring people
straight out of college to come in as fullberg colonels
to be army, to lead army teams in the army
of like tech for tech squads and stuff like that
to basically fight cyberspace and all this other stuff. And
so from my perspective, I know it's sound like a
contrarian with a lot of this stuff. I just have
seen stuff like in terms of how operate, how governments run,
how how these different systems run, Like, for example, like
all this where's all where are we going to store
all these massive warehouses full of you know, towers and
stuff like that for computers, And how much water? Do
you know how much water you need to cool off
something like that that's that big. So there's not enough
resources in water tables. Coca Cola can go out and
pump the water tables dry in the town and then leave,
and that water table won't replenish right away, to replenish
over many, many years. And so imagine doing that. Imagine
if the whole world is run on this technology with
all these different warehouses full of what are they call
it again, the heart. The heart drives the which call
thems man, the the data centers like the Google data
centers and stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think you're underestimating how anti human this
movement is. Just to say, you know, I think the
whole point is to deplete resources and pretty much kill
ob it is.
Speaker 3: I think that's true.
Speaker 2: A that's what's there's an argument, that's what the wars
that we're engaged with right now is exactly that. A
war four resources, uh, the green one they want green One,
Venezuela and Iran. All right, that is the final frontier
of that's a gold rush for resources. That would be
the argument for why we're even at war right now.
Speaker 3: Well I'm not. I just think that again, you need
humans to run these things, So why would they kill
off the human population? I think it's all the show
is kind of what I'm trying to get at. It's
all like to make you believe that they have power.
It's counterfeit power. It's counterfeit realities that they're trying to
create for you.
Speaker 4: To get a hand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we so we can.
Speaker 1: We won't.
Speaker 3: Look, we will lower our vibrations, we will lower our energy,
and we will be like in this drunken state of
just like whatever. Bro, let's just detect tchnology and then
because when you're not vibrating at a higher like a
frequency of love is for examples, like five hundred and
twenty eight hurts, and fear vibrates at three hurts. So
if you're not vibrating at five, if you're vibrating at
five hundred and twenty eight hurts, you're far away from
these demons that can attach themselves to you. Because these
things are beyond our perception. These things are like, we're
in this little sliver of light this point zero zero
three sixty five percent of visible light, and the rest
of it is ninety nine point nine to six five
percent of the spectrum that we cannot see. So if
they get you in a state of fear, they lower
your vibration enough to where they can get you up
to the edge of that quantum. By the way, quantum
means the smallest single discrete packet of anything, and usually
that quantum meets it's where the physical world meets. It's
that doorway to almost to the spiritual, to the metaphysical.
So that's literally what quantum means. It's the tiniest thing
of a photon of light, for example, or whatever it is.
And so I think that they're trying to get you
to that that doorway, the quantu doorway is what I
would call it, rather than a quantum realm, because the
quantum realm doesn't exist. Quantum means physical. It means it's
a physical thing. It's the smallest point of any physical reality.
And so they want you to get to that quantu
doorway to where they can hijack your body and you
see this with people who are addicted to drugs and
alcohol and pornography and all this other stuff. They have
this deed. They've let these demons in, and I think
that that's the goal. I don't think the goal is
to create necessarily this technology that they can inhabit. But
I think that they are trying to get our vessels.
Because we're unique, we're made in God's image. They can
create all this stuff on their own. I mean like
meaning these technology can be created. They cannot recreate what
God created with humans. They cannot do that. And so
there's hijack, or they're stealing people, or they're raping them
and all this. Sorry sorry for that worse even I
shouldn't have said that. But they're they're doing all these
different things, and they're trying to create this hybrid human
so they can in havebit this reality and what they are.
They're still in this physical reality. They are demons. There
are negative energy, but they they are imperceptible because even
the stuff that's in this reality that's ninety nine point
nine to six five percent the void, that's still this
physical reality. God created the light and the dark from
the spiritual world, so he's in the spiritual world they are,
so they're still in this physical reality. So they need
to find a way to keep their body together while
they're in this physical reality and they're not. It's not
humans that they want to feel. They want to smoke.
They want to remember they were falling. They were falling angels,
and they had this power. They were the prince of
Persia and they had all this nobility, so they had
the power to just take whatever woman they wanted to
and all this other stuff. So they want that back.
They want the ability to smoke cigarettes and eat steak
and all that. And you're not going to get that
with a robot, like with half a head, like they
were just showing the un which is I think it's
a joke.
Speaker 4: No, I actually know exactly. That's kind of what I
was getting at, Like if they want to get a vessel,
that's kind of what it meant exactly, And it gives
away your essence in the process, right, you know. I
don't know if it was on here. I think it was,
but you weren't here, Brad. I was talking about I
don't know if you've seen that show carbon fiber, but
to get those sleeves, which is really just a human
body that they put this little chip that has their
consciousness in it. And to get those sleeves, and to
be able to do that, they have to decode their
religious coding, right, so they have to get rid of
their soul, right, detach it from their consciousness essentially. And
I believe that that's really what you have to you do,
kind of forfeit it if you were to merge with
this technology, which again could be likened to that to
that beast system. So I do think you're exactly right
with that. And it's funny because they call that robots Sophia,
And if all this is based in narcissism, then it's
funny because they believe we live in a prison planet.
And if they really are accessing entities for technology, I
think these entities are tricking them to creating a prison
planet that they really can't get. It's like, you can't
get out of this one. Jesus may have showed you
how to get out of the one you're in now,
but we're gonna put you in one you'll never get
out of. And I think that really that's what they're
playing with.
Speaker 1: And revelation too, like like when men seek death and
they can't find it. They're tormented in this. Ye you
could you could say, whatever state the world's in, maybe
maybe this is a shambala that they created or people.
Some people call it matrix or something like this.
Speaker 3: It's the corporate right, It's like this fake reality of
your face.
Speaker 1: Well, well, it'll bring you in to make you think
it's the freest thing of all time. It's kind of
like the movie Gamer. I don't know if anyone has
ever seen the movie Gamer, but it was kind of
like a Call of duty flick, but it was about
people actually playing and controlling real people with some sort
of technology, right, and they would be an avatar in
this world, and they would lust and they would sin
and and there would be no repercussions for it. Because
it was utopia. You could do all of these things.
You could do with thy will and get away with
these things. I want to share this with you, guys.
This is Epstein talking about artificial intelligence. Epstein was in
direct contact a friend of Marvin Minsky. Marvin Minsky is
the guy who created artificial intelligence at MIT, and Marvin
Minsky is related to a rabbi that has Jewish folklore
wrapped around him. Where in sixteenth century Prague or something,
right like, the Jewish people are getting persecuted and Rabbi
Judo Lowe right was a kabalist, he was Talmudist, he
was a mystic, and he went and he created this
gollum figure out of clay near the water and he
put a seal on its head. It's I think the
seal was called Emmett or something like that, and he
gave it life through magic. And I agree with you, Brad,
I think, yeah, we might not be in the more
we give into this information and then distribute it, we're
kind of like giving them Lucia. I get it. But
I do think, uh, there will be a reality of
magic and technology being one and the same thing. It's
kind of like when Thor was sitting down with the
scientists and the scientist is like talking about you know, science,
and he's talking about magic and he goes, in my world,
the two are the one and are the same. So
I think at some point there is going to be
magic played into this. There is going to be kabbala,
and there is going to be some weird wild thing
that takes place where they give life somehow, like when
the false prophet gives the image the image of the
beast life. I think, like that's that's magic.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a difference between fear and preparedness too. I
think it's important to point that out. Like wanting to
be aware and actively trying to be aware of something
that's coming is very important and doesn't it doesn't equate
to us being in a state of fear. And in fact,
I mean, I think people kind of have a right
to be aware and super hyper aware and hyper prepared
right now or want to be hyper prepared right now
because we've been through twenty twenty and we've seen all
this crazy stuff. I mean, I remember when there weren't
cell phones and there was no internet. I've seen all
this stuff in my life, and you know, you could
feel something coming. I think it's natural and it's healthy
to want to know what that is. And I just
I just don't equate that the fear. I'm not saying
that that's what's being said here, but wanting to know
what's going on and doing your homework and doing your
due diligence is I think it's a healthy thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And before I play this video, like some people do,
kind of question the intelligence of this guy. And I think,
if anything, he was more metaphysical than anything. And in
this whole entire interview you can tell where he stands,
and he's a mystic. And when you hear him talk
about artificial intelligence, I think he's telling you the truth.
But the people that are involved with this technology, I mean,
creating it, maybe they're not initiated high enough, maybe they're
not at a certain adept where they think they have
the answers, but they are just presented at service level,
and they're not like deep down in the ground where
a lot of this stuff might be coming from. So
I'll play this real quick.
Speaker 6: Fast forward Steve too today where Google and these other
engine companies, the other tech companies are trying to build
artificial intelligence. The strangest thing that they found. One of
the strangest things is that the systems that they design
this artificial intelligence with a lot of people have heard
about is they design a bunch of systems. They're called
neural nets, terms simply taken out of brain work, neurons
in the brain nets because they actually look like a net.
They put in some inputs, the computers work spit out
an answer sounds normal to you because you're thinking about
that calculator you had in nineteen seventy six on your desk.
When you ask the person who designed the system, how
did it come to that answer? How did you a
neural net? Can you show me the calculations? They say, no,
we don't know. We don't know how the thing we
designed actually came.
Speaker 1: Up with that answer.
Speaker 6: That's pretty strange. They take the same neural net now
and they put it in front of a video game.
No learning, nothing to the computer. They say, sit in
front of your video game and learn how to play.
It seems that computer learns better than any human in history,
faster than in the human history, beats in a human
in history. But when you asked the designer, how did
it do it? No one knows.
Speaker 1: It just did it. So it's the first.
Speaker 6: Little touch of things that we already have gotten to
a place where we don't understand it, and we built
it fast forward.
Speaker 1: Forget the mantra in the background that kind of like
pulls you in.
Speaker 4: To the I thought you, I thought you made that.
Speaker 1: I watched it every day.
Speaker 4: No, man, yeah, I think that. Uh you know he
you know, he talks with a lot of very smart people, uh,
you know, and gathered as much information as his mind
could gather. But I think he speaks as you just said,
he thinks in a philosophical kabbalistic sense in nature. And
you know this because he talks all throughout about how
he loves the fund things in like the a cause
of realm, will call it right, this quantum space, this
place of unknown right And at the end he said,
and this is very important because throughout the whole time
he's talking about how I really like to fund the
unknown so we can understand our reality right. Well, later on,
way away from that, he says that women have this
natural instinct to operate in the unknown. And he earlier
talked about how Zoro Ranch, when Los Alamos Labs was closing,
you know, down a lot of their labs and sending
scientists out, he paid a bunch of them to come
to Zoro Ranch, and a lot of women talked about
waking up on a lab table and weird things happening
to him. I think that he was doing experiments like
you just talked about with the quantum dots, to test
what trauma does with your psychic abilities. I think that
that is some concrete proof as much as you'll get
unless they show a video that this guy was doing that.
Whenever you listen to what he said, look at what
the women say they saw all that together. I think
he was doing some experiments with that, that spiritual nature
that you're saying.
Speaker 1: Sure, what I mean too, like with the quantum dots
is further in the interview, I think, at like an
hour in twenty seven or twenty eight minutes, he's talking
about dark brain and he'll say that, you know it's
dark because you can't see it. You can't measure it,
can't calculate it. You know, it does something very similar
to gravity, but there's no way to compute it into
you know, some sort of algorithm to then be able
to duplicate it. That's what science does, right, We copy
things and we go, oh, yes, this is science because
we copied it. And that's the laws of physics, you know.
But he's talking about that, there'll be something in the brain, right,
there's something, there's matter here, and it's being pulled to
an area where there is no matter. Right now, Normally
you would if you see something moving towards something, right,
there should be matter here. But there's nothing here, and
so I think a lot. I think what he's getting
at is that there's a lot of these functions that
happen in the brain that revolve around dark matter of
the brain. That's what he calls it. Some people say
dark brain. It's the occult part of the brain, right,
the hidden parts of the brain. And you know, I
think he's trying to build some sort of sensors to
trace what is going on, right, because then that's more knowledge.
And then if they can be able to create some
sort of technology where all they have to do is
push a button, they don't have to like go through
the chakras and get into this meditative state, like why
not just hit kundalini like a light switch. You know.
So I think that it may have something to do
with some of this.
Speaker 3: Well, I think what you're saying here is we have
to be very clear about what we're talking about. We're
talking about creators like which are just most normal human
beings and people who do people who build, who dig ditches,
who make things, who build computers, who make these cameras
and all these other things. There are real smart people
who are really creating, but there are people like him
who are they contribute nothing to humanity whatsoever. I was
in the military, and I was a photographer for an
army general, and I got to go to all these
functions all the time. And all he is is a socialite.
That's all these people are. Nobody in anything has to
do with Washington or anything or computers. None of these
tech nerds. None of these guys have ever digged, dug
ditches or painted. They created something that's immaculate. They they
only can take things and try to mimic it. And
again they make you think that they are doing something,
but they're really not doing anything. He just said a
whole bunch of nothing. And so you might have seen
me kind of smiling a little bit or giggling a
little bit when he was talking. It is just a
bunch of just nothing. So what I'm what I'm saying
is there's so many people speaking things, and and abracadabra
means I speak, Therefore I create. And we have to
remember that our words are literal magic. We like. There's
what I mean by that is when you speak words,
the sounds that you make, the a's, the b's, the c's,
all that they're sending out little vortices of energy literally
sound waves that have these magnetic fields, and so when
you're speaking things out into the ether, it's creating these
many magnetic fields. Just imagine like little tiny tornadoes coming
out of your out of your mouth as you speak,
and it has a magnetic field. And if enough things bring,
if you have enough energy coming towards a magnetic field,
then that is what creates. And so so him saying
things gets you thinking that there's something being created, and
then your brain then creates a vibration of trying to
bring that into this reality, if that makes any sense.
So they're not doing anything. It's literally just saying things
over and over. It's repetitive. It's the same thing you
see in music. They have repetitive lines over and over.
It's a hypnotic trance that you get in with these
people that that this is how they get you in
this control state is because it's a they repeat it.
They did this in twenty twenty. They say it over
and over, and then you believe that you lost your
smell and you believe that you lost your taste. And
so your mind is very powerful and they can do
a lot of amazing things. But they can't do anything,
so they are their only ability. His only ability is
to speak, and that's it. That's what all these charismatic people,
That's why there's such a disconnect between somebody like Obama
and a normal person that goes to work every day.
He's not creating anything. He's making you create it. So,
like again, we have we give too much power to
these people. They are idiots, They are so stupid that
but the only way that they know how to do
things is to propagandize, is to make you think and
make you believe. Like the whole disclosure thing that I
don't mean to take it off or to derail it
or anything like that. But a lot of times people
when we're talking about disclosure, everybody's like disclosure, and everybody's
wanting to hear about the hearings, they're not saying anything
in those hearings. When you find out that the movie
The Age of Disclosure was funded base sickly by through
the smith Mont Act of nineteen forty seven, which is
propaganda wing of the government, we have thirty five hundred
people creating propaganda. Why would you dedicate a whole wing
of the government thirty five hundred people to creating propaganda
if it didn't work. And this is what they do.
They have no real currency in this world other than
running their freaking mouths. That's all they do. That's all
Epstein did. Make connections and run your mouth because and again,
we have to understand that we collectively have this power
to just pull the cards out, you know, pull the
rug out from under them, and basically take all their
power away from them. Because they have convinced us to
give them our energy and our power. They've sucked that
energy out of us. They're ciphering in it, just like
that movie Batman Returns where Jim Carrey and two faces
sticking their thing on their head. In this like green
Box is shooting things into their brain. That's kind of
what they're doing. We're powering them by saying over and
over and over again his name. We're powering them by
saying over and over he's small art or he's whatever,
or is going to take over technology. And again, I
don't mean to be a contrarian to the conversation. I
feel like I'm probably still in the conversation down a
little bit, actually, But that's kind of how I see it, man.
I just feel like these things. These people are a joke.
I've been inside government in terms of like seeing these
people how they operate. They are not bright whatsoever, but
they have the gift of gab, everyone of them. They're
very cunning. They know how to talk, you know what.
This is why they all wear suits in Congress and stuff.
They know how to play to your psyche. And and
this is why, frankly, you see a lot of preachers
wearing suits and they have they're they're presenting this authority
that they have this authority over you. When you see
someone in a suit or robe or garments or whatever,
even white coats for doctors, they're presenting this this fake
authority over you. You have the authority over yourself. Nobody else does.
But all these other people we keep saying, okay, well
I trust you, I give my authority over to you.
And we have to stop doing that. We have to
keep stop telling people or stop speaking these things into reality,
because we are literally helping bring whatever they want into reality.
So if we say AI is going to take over
over and over and over, if millions of people are
saying it, then it might possibly come true.
Speaker 1: But what if it comes true, because it's prophecy, you know,
like what if it's going to come true just because
that's the way it is, you know, And it's kind
of like Ephesians five eleven where I think I can
think that's the verse where it talks about, you know,
exposing and calling out the things of darkness. And I
think there are people that are above government that are dark.
Their ethics and their morals are discombobulated, flipped inverted, and
I think they are seeking godhood over anything, over anyone
else's emotions, anyone else's traumas. They don't care. They have
an objective that they really want to do, you know.
And I agree with you, like along the terms of
like the Tulpa effect. You know, it's kind of like
we're talking about this information, people are hearing it more
and they're or for it. Might it might happen, right,
And I think that just it's going to happen because
it's it's prophecy. Tim brother, what did you what did
you think about that that video? Man? Yeah?
Speaker 2: What came to mind is, you know, I do think
that these people are cultists. I think some of them
are actually long term practicing occultists and know a thing
or two in that regard. Not to give them any credit,
but this does seem to be something they care about.
I heard a lot of Kabbala stuff in there, you know.
I think that the cults of the Singularity don't see
a difference between mysticism and technology. In fact, I think
that they're using the Kabbala as a blueprint or mind control.
They do want to control our minds, and they are.
It goes back to Manley P. Hall in a secret
We got the book right here, Secret Teachings of All Ages,
where he goes back and talks about the old Egyptian
priest craft and how they knew how to control large
swaths of the population. This is something that's been happening
for a very long time, and they used they like
to use a cultism for that. I think they're refusing
Ai and Kabbala and accelerationism into one system. And I've
picked up on that by looking into Nick Lands. Nick
Land is another big occultist. He was a big croleite
as well. He actually moved into one of Croley's old
houses and brought in a bunch of his followers there
and they were doing He's in a nutshell. He is
a like a philosopher to the tech bros. They're looking
to him for ideas, people like him, Curtis Jarvin and
uh Gordie Rose. I think they look up to him
and Ray Kurzweil as well. I think this there's a
milieu of these people and they're taking this very seriously.
And that's why I look at it and I like
to kind of take it seriously as well, because I'm
wondering what they're up to. I think they're they're trying
to master, possibly trying to master the ancient art of
opening portals, and they're trying a new method for that.
You know, if you go out to ancient Egypt to
go to revisit them for a second, they've got what's
called save written on some of the walls there. That's
a portal. They knew how to open portals. I think
that's why you see in some of the ancient our
Egyptian reliefs weird these weird entities like kek with with
the froghead and the other one with the snakehead. I
think that they were going into these states and seeing
and peering it across the bill and peering into the
spirit world, and they had their type of technology they
used for that back then, and I think it's just
been changed, and I think that uhe technology proper technology
as we know it today is allowing them to do
the same sort of thing, possibly with a different bridge.
Speaker 4: Dude, you always get me going whenever you start talking
about some shit, Tim, I got fucking go bro, twenty
things I could get I'm trying to keep a train
of thought here because I'm just like so, you know,
Epstein shows very much so that he's very crowllyan do
as thou wilt, to the point where when he's asked
if while he's in jail, if he's thinking about, like, man,
this is crazy. You know, the wait financial crisis is happening.
I'm stuck in jail. I'm one of the biggest financial
Wall Street guys, and I'm not there to help with it.
And you know, Bannon was asking him about that. He's like,
do you think about did you think about it? He's
like no, He's like did you He's like, no, I
just thought about how amazing my life was. It's a
very no consequence, do as you will. Anything that happens happens.
It's very free kind of you know, free in a
negative kind of way, this inverted free kind of way,
and so that speaks a lot to the Crowleyan aspect
you're talking about with Nick Land. From what I've read,
he's very influential in the Order of the Nine Angles,
which has a lot to do with this dark accelerationism
we've been seeing in our culture through the Internet. I
think they have something to do with the Smiley Faced Killers.
If you look into like William Ramsey came on my show,
we talked about that, there's a lot of stuff when
you read about the Order of Nine Angles. It seems
to relate like exactly to what goes on with the
Smiley Face Killers. And what they're doing is they're killing
people ritualistically, people that tend to be out at a bar,
people that are, you know, young, kind of just partying.
And their idea is this dark eugenics. And what you
do is you kill this person and make it look like,
you know, they're drunk, they fell into the river. They
shouldn't have been out there drinking and being so irresponsible.
Look what they got themselves into. So now it'll make
more people think twice before they go do it. Right,
This very dark, twisted version of eugenics, and a lot
of these bodies would be found months after you know,
that day, and they would just kind of recently been
dead clear indications of like ritualistic abuse. Police officers for
you know, liability purposes just kind of let it go
a lot of times with these instances. But outside of that,
I think that that all connects with what you're talking
about with Curtis Jarvin, the Dark Enlightenment Order of the
Nine Angles. This is all the kind of men hast
change in our attitudes and minds will accept this kind
of new world coming right, And it gets right into
what Brad was saying with the manipulation of energies, which
is why they've mystified, you know, freemasonry so much. I've
done a lot of book clubs on mainly p Hall's
Secret Teachings. I love that book, and I think you're
exactly right. They've known how to manipulate the psyche. That's
the whole initiation practices of Freemasonry is really different degrees
of understanding deception but also being deceived at the same time. Right,
they use a thousand words for one meaning, right, that
kind of thing, and so to your point, like George W.
Bush said, in my line of business, you have to
repeat things over and over to really get it in
people's heads. And that is propaganda, but that's also the
manipulation of energies. And I think that they've mystified freemasonry
so much and demonized it so much to keep us
away from understanding the practices that they're using on us,
you know, and Christians are very quick to say, you know,
anything that has to do with that, just leave it
alone because you know, yeah, the enemy uses it, but
you should understand it too, so you can equip yourself
better with the enemy, because I believe Jesus used some
of these things, and I think that they've taken that
part out of the Bible to keep us very literal
and dogmatic and not looking at this the way to
really preserve our own soul and preserve our own peace
and you know, serenity. So that's kind of my thought
on all that. Yeah, it all connected.
Speaker 2: One love it man. One more thing, because I meant
to include this and I forgot. Quantum mechanics discover that
when you break down matter into its smallest pieces, it
lacks locality, so it's everywhere. Possibly it's it's omnipresent according
to that, So it's not bound by the physical laws
of reality, right, it's kind of paranormal in that way.
I think that the kabolotry of life and the Seffross
sort of express that. So you have computers doing this now, yes,
and you have death or data if you just want
to are real deep with the cabal goal, publistic goal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there you go, there you go.
Speaker 2: So it's a brave new world. And even that's a
rabbit hole. That's Alice Huxley, who was a part of
the technocratic movement of the nineteen thirties that poked his
head up and sort of said, hey, this is coming.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: We've got full blown technocrats running running things. All the
top CEOs are technocrats. So this all has a history
to it, and you have to go back and it's great. Andrew,
I think you're totally onto it when you go back
and you look at the occultism and the influence of
people like Crowley, it's it's it's there. I totally see
it there. I love that dark eugenics ideas as well.
It happened in Nashville, right, it happened here. The guy
you know that that whole murder thing, dark eugenics thing
that you broke down happen here.
Speaker 4: If I may, if I may just add some credence
to what you're staying with the technology aspect. You know,
you guys, I'm sure familiar. If you're reading manly Pu's book,
I'm sure you're from the You're They talk about the elements, right,
and this whole concept of like paganism is really the
manipulation of the elements. And we know what alchemy is,
that's the transmutation of metals. AKA. Really it's an analogy
for your soul and purifying yourself from you know, passions,
carnal passions, et cetera. But important aspect of that fire
is like the you know, most it's primordial knowledge is
tied to fire. So it's like this instinctual what we
call the serment Christianity, right, it's just understanding, this knowing
it kind of comes from just nowhere. They relate that
with like fire. That's why Prometheus brings us the fire
right from the gods. Well, if you were to al
chemicalize fire, it would be electricity, right, and that seems
to be what they harness through sigil like circuits all
these sigial kind of shaped circuits that we have, they
kind of you know, conduct the electricity, this energy. And
I do think that, you know, the way that we're
using this technology is very inverted in black magic life.
That's why it's like a black mirror we're scrying on,
and so therefore that's why we're getting all these negative
effects from this technology. But yes, I do think they're
hardwiring mysticism, as Sam Tripley says, but there's some proof.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is off of where is it?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 1: This is self a Caltex website and I watched this today.
This is the future of quantum computing. Again, to Brad's point,
this could be all complete, yes, right, but I found
it interesting when looking at this, I saw this symbolism.
I'm not going to play the whole video, but I
saw this video and I saw this triangle. So I
went and I started to dig, like to what this
triangle is. And this triangle is the Serpinsky triangle, and
it is often interpreted in occultism and sacred geometry as
a symbol of infinity, divine order, and the interconnectedness of
the microcosms and the macrocosms. In other words, like as above,
so below right, and again what do you what do
you guys think just about that? I mean, I know
me and Tim have talked about this like Cabbala quantum,
it's pretty much the same practices, right, jump in, whoever,
whoever any thoughts.
Speaker 4: Well, remember last time we talked about you know, their gods,
as Brad said, they don't create, right, the god that
they worship is the architect of the universe. Well, the
architect of the universe would imply that it understands the
fabric of the universe, right, the geometry, the Fibonacci sequence,
the tetractus, if you look in at Pythagoras, which is
very similar to that triangle that you're showing, which looks, yeah,
very similar to that same concept in geometry and all
these things. I think that it tells, you know, they
there's stories that Pythagoras could tell the future through doing
math and geometry, and so I think that there's some
thing to that. Uh, And that's kind of what you're
pointing out.
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I was looking for something here. Kenneth Grant,
another cultist to you know, I throw in the in
the mix here. He had some stuff to say about
this with with the eye of Shiva. He says, when
it opens, a chakra or lotus blooms, the world of
appearances is said to disappear, revealing in its stead the
substream of reality upon which is reared the edifice of
phenomenal illusion. I know that's that's deep. But what he's
talking about here is kabbala chakra magic and sex magic,
and I won't go into the details there, but he
he also refers to this as ancient nephlow magic that
they were using.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like he's talking about the a cause
of Rome or the quantum realm that we've been kind
of hinting on the whole time.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that I think Epstein was aware of
some of this stuff, and some of the people who
knew Epstein. I I don't think Epstein is as smart
as he portrayed himself to be. He tried to be smart,
I'll give him that, but he did surround himself with
pretty smart people. I mean that was that was a
big chill down the spines of a lot of these
guys that were deep in the university systems over here.
They all were like they were they all knew Epstein.
So when all this stuff happened, they were they got scared.
I'm trying to remember names now, but you know all
the tech universities, Uh, what's what's the one that, what's
the one that Lex Friedman situated the people at M
I T. But they got a chill down their spine
when all this happened, because Epstein made a point to
surround himself with these people. And I think that's why
you see the temple with the bed in it. They
said they went up there and the temple had the
two Masonic pillars and just a bed. What's the temple doing?
And it was a bed doing in a temple rather.
Speaker 4: Reason that bed was in the tunnel under that synagogue,
I think.
Speaker 1: Like the zodiac right, the zodiac on the ceiling as well,
and then the marbling on the whole inside of his
temple too, write, you know. And they used to use
these elements or these these you know, whatever you want
to call it, you know, marble courts, whatever, you know.
They would make chambers out of these certain things. Granted
all this kind of stuff. I mean, there's even talk
of the guy who did the radar scans under the
pyramids went on Joe Rogan's show, and Joe Rogan kind
of pulled the esoteric belief of what he thinks was
going on under the pyramids, and he's like, all those
chambers were meant to put yourself in this you know,
basically meditative state, and you're up there with the gods
talking communion with the gods, and then you come back,
You've got more revelations, you've got more information, more knowledge,
and it held you to this king like status. And
I think it's just all falls into ancient Nimrod worship
and it's it's the same because after Babbel, right, things
get separated, language gets confused, and all these cultures just
all have the same practices. You know, it all comes
back to what happened there, right, and what was going
on there, and when you're reading the Bible, it's pretty simple.
But I think it's actually talking that with everyone coming together,
uniting under a balanced system, right, they all came together
first before they built the tower. They built the tower
to reach the heavens. And technically, like that's gnosis, right,
Like that's a that's this gnostic perspective of bringing heaven
to earth. That's why you hear they want to do
that in some way, Like, why does the Trump administration,
why is he super involved in the charismatic New Apostolic Reformation,
who has the Seven Mountain Mandate that wants to do this,
They want to bring Heaven on earth? Why with Trump
going to war? Now? I get this could be propaganda, right,
and this could just all bps, but why are they
labeling this a holy war now? And this is to
bring in or maybe even to stop revelation or to
bring in Jesus millennial reign. Like, there's this wild stuff.
Speaker 4: I don't subscribe to that. I've been kind of hitting
people really hard on that, dude, because I've been calling
out the Christian nationalist movement that's been kind of building
up here recently, because I just think it was moving
towards a place like this, which is you have new
Christians that don't really understand the Bible, that or old
evangelical Baptist type Christians who have this weird understanding of
the Bible and they think that the literal Israel is
equivalent to what's in the Bible and that we should
go to war for it. However, they don't understand that
the building of the Third Temple, which is what they
want to do will usher in the Antichrist to the Christians,
but they don't understand that. They think it's going to
bring in. So I think when none of that happens,
it destroys the Abrahamic faiths and you usher in this
Luciferian doctrine. So I think that really they want to
systematically destroy the Abrahamic faiths through a major war, a
major Holy war, and by you know, you have the
Christian martyr Charlie Kirk, you have the building up of
the church. I mean that's really been kind of happening.
And yeah, the Seven Mountains, Mandy, Charlie Kirk was a
part of that, and you know, I think that there's
a lot to that. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, that's like a
whole other show. I've been kind of really deep on that, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and I think I don't see any reason
why they wouldn't want to use technology as a means
to destruction as well, along with a lot of things
you mentioned there, Andrew, And back to something you said
Stephen talking about the chambers, they were using the channel
and have visions and tap into the old ancient Nimrod
style of magic that was Egypt. That was ancient Egypt.
Fast forward to now what do we have now in
place of that? Well, I don't want to misquote him,
but I did hear Gary Wayne talk about this. Maybe
he was maybe he was speculating some but this is
what he said. He said, Cern was probably a geomancy
portal site where priests could and warlocks could make ortals
between realms. That's CERN. So now you've got the technological
aspect to it. So I think the vision chambers of
Egypt have been replaced by CERN and places like that.
And we did that episode, Stephen, where we looked, we
looked deep into CERN, and we found out, you know,
that that whole place was It was an ancient sacred place,
an ancient place of occultism and sorcery and the Nazis,
maybe the Nazis may have even knew it. And and
some of those Nazis who helped start CERN may have said, oh,
we know where to put this place. Let's go over
here to Geneva. We know there's a lot to follow
down here. Exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well that's what geomancy is. They know exactly where
what I'm getting into in my show, and I'm showing
evidence of this. Literally all every show go on and
even on my own show, is they're building these sites
on fault lines and volcanoes in near anything that has
excess amount of magnetite, and magnetite is magnetic has it's
got seventy five percent iron, and it has all these
noble gases encapsulate encapsulated in it, and electricity is what
kind of activates these places, and so so they this
is why quartz and and all this they have silicate
in it, and silicate basically it helps conduct electricity pretty well.
And you know, so that's why when the grantite, for example,
in the King's Chamber of the Pyramids, that's why they
have that stuff there, is because they're creating a piezoelectric
effect from this stone. To help long story short, I
have this whole theory on the portal locations that I
call plasma portals, but not that it's the original word,
but it's mostly it's it involves magnetic energy and then
you couple that with plasma and it creates this like
perfect little environment that kind of creates this separation in
the electric field, in the magnetic field of reality, the
electric field of reality and the magnetic field of reality
is what we call the electromagnetic or electromagnetic energy. I
feel like it's like a zipper of our reality. And
then when you have heavier than normal amounts of magnetic
energy magnetic variations in these areas, it creates this little
separation in that electric and magnetic field. Normally, electrical and
magnetic fields are kind of touching. They get like just
like zippers, they go right up to each other in touch,
but they never like crisscross. And so what happens is
in these areas where there's heavier amounts of magnetic variation,
you create a literal portal. There's a separation in space
time of the electromagnetics or in the electric and magnetic field.
And then that creates this little sliver of like space
time basically where these things can come in from the void,
they can hit. And again it has to do with
a lot of plasma and stuff like that, which is
sort of this abundant element around us right now. It's
the fourth state of matter around us, but it used
to be called the fifth element. It used to be
called ether. So plasma is just ether.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought this, and I was gonna ask
you about this. Go ahead, okay, and I'll keep it quick.
In the context of this episode, just a a real
quick thought here. I thought back to the Bible. Whatever
they put their minds to do, they will be able
to do. Of course, some paraphrasing there that in sinuates
to me. My opinion of that was that that was
some sort of tower of babble, some sort of a
type of technology, possibly even a matrix of the hive mind.
We see the b symbolism with Freemasons. That insinuates that
there is a Queen Bee something, a central force that's
sending out messages, and it's it's a consciousness, right, it's
a field of consciousness. So I think again, I think
it's it's like the old tech with the new tech.
CERN will probably be a part of the new orlenic
hive mind, and it's like a new tower of babble
along with AI. Why wouldn't they try to build this.
It's a one world government, one world science religion. It
centralizes power. They're always about that.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Peter Brovic class Schwaps Replacement is working on a project
right now to run the Internet and AI out of CERN.
They're going to try to do it, so I got
my eye on this stuff.
Speaker 4: Grad I was gonna I was gonna ask Bradon like
the beginning of the show, I'm glad you brought this
back up because I would have forgot so you would
mention that you're really into plasma and you were mentioned magnetism,
and you pretty much described an answer to my question.
But I'm still gonna ask, uh, so, do you subscribe
to the concept that UFO technology is basically plasma and
magnetism technology that creates essentially its own little you know area, right,
because magnetism, it makes sense that magnetism would be that
force to kind of bubble itself to where it could
still operate but also have like a bubble around it
in a way. Yeah, very makes sense. And by the way,
so with that being said, in the beginning, you were
saying that you know, this technology they have isn't very impressive.
I agree with you. But knowing that we can figure
this out about the plasma and magnetism, and knowing that
this is probably old technology being brought back, so this
gets back into the old Atlantean concept of the gods
and regaining that tech. But with that being said, do
you think it's possible that there's this breakaway civilization style
black ops technology that they've created, like far beyond what
we think even with maybe AI, but mainly regarding this
tech to where they could implement the things we're talking
about already in a way. But maybe they're trying to
sell us slowly. What do you think about that? Like,
do you think maybe they have more than they sit?
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, I don't know what. I'm
sure they have plasma physicists that are working to create
things that we don't know about. There's a guy named
Winston Bostic in the fifties, I believe, who was studying
this stuff and he accidentally discovered that when you shoot
plasma into the magnetic field, it creates orbs of light
and is essentially these It creates these halos, which is
these golden rings. Which is funny because all these different
things when you hear these words like halos for angels.
This is where it might have came from, because one
ball of plasma shot into a magnetic field creates a
golden sonic ring, right, one of those golden rings, it's
a halo. And then if you shoot multiple at each
other into this magnetic field. It creates these orbs of light. Now,
when these orbs of light come into our reality, they
can they want to essentially grab onto ions to sort
of stay alive. So they're pulling from putrefied ions and
all this other stuff to sort of stay alive in
this reality. And they have to they have a small
window to do this to come into this rabbit. That's
I'm kind of taking it to a different place, I guess.
But what I'm trying to get at here is what
you guys are talking about, which I don't know anything about,
to be honest, with all this kabalas all this other stuff,
what I know is that when you look at some
of this stuff, like the the platonic solids like tetrahede
and hexahedrons with are cubes and octahedrons and the ecosahedrons
and all that stuff, they're all tied to the elements.
They're all tied the fire, earth, air, and water, and
then the decahedron is tied into ether. So I think
that these things. What that essentially means is whenever you
see like a UFO, which by the way, plasma is
actually non human intelligence it is a sentient thing that
is trying to organize, but it can't organize. It needs
electrical fields to organize into a complex plasma. But more importantly,
it needs silicon to be at the core of that
to create this lattice that creates these different shapes. So
what it needs first is silicon, which is like, it's
abundant in space. They call it space dust, right, it
comes from nebulas and all this other stuff. And this
silicon acts as a brain for this complex plot for
the plasma. So plasma exist in this soup like state,
and then it attaches itself to complex plow I mean
to the space dust, the silicon, which is again you
could tie this back into Silicon Valley everything they're doing
with chips and all this other stuff. And that silicon
acts as a brain, like it basically has an it's
an analog computer. It's not a digital computer. It just
basically stores information. And so this is a central piece
to a plasma body.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: So then now you've got the plasma body around us,
this one little shape the space dust, well that space dust.
Each piece has different shapes. This is why you see
the when you see UFOs, you see cubes inside the
UFOs or the orbs.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: I know a lot of people who are into UFOs.
You know that they have cubes inside of them. Well,
that's just one of the platonic solids. And there's different
you know, there's different frequencies that can create those different shapes.
And this is why you see tetrahedrons, which are these triangles,
these pyramids basically, and and they all have this plasma
body around it. And when it has this plasma body,
it becomes a complex plasma. And that complex plasma then
tries to stay in this reality because the sun disperses
it back. God's light disperses it back into the ether.
So it needs to hide underneath the water, It needs
to hide in the volcanoes, it needs to hide everywhere
that the light doesn't shine. It comes out at night,
it comes out of twilight zone, which is when the
sun's going down and also when the sun's coming up,
and those are critical moments for these things to come
into our reality. So there are scientists. My point of
saying all this is there are scientists who obviously know this.
If I'm a dumb dumb who barely graduated high school,
I did get into college too and finish that. But
but I failed physics in high school, and I'm the
only interested in this now because I want to know
the answers a lot of this stuff that we talk about.
It it's like, Okay, what can we take away from this?
For example, with what I was saying about the devil
can't create, he can only corrupt. Well, what did he
do to Eve in the Garden of Eden. He convinced
her to take her free will and do it for
something bad. And I think if we can just boil
it all down to just that, just remember that that's
what the game is, to convince you of something, to
convince you that all this other stuff is very important. Meanwhile,
something more important is going over here. I think that
that plasma intelligence, it exists in the state of always
being plasma, and then there's a brain in there that
in the space dust that's kind of monitoring humanity. It's
recording things throughout history. It knows the fall and rise
of civilizations. It's recording things. And when it becomes a plasma,
when it becomes a complex plasma and morphs into this reality,
then I think it works with our governments and it
gives them technology and information and all these things as
scientific discovery, these medicines and all this in exchange for
like human sacrifice and things like that for these This
is what I think is actually going on. But I
think we take our ball off your eye off the ball.
I think we take our eye off the ball with
a lot of this stuff, and we just kind of
we're chasing these like little that's why they call them
rabbit holes. We're chasing these little, these little rabbits down there,
and we kind of get lost in this like studying
one thing when we should be kind of looking over here,
and it's like everything that just like with the disclosure hearings,
everything that they're telling you in the disclosure here is
there's nothing. There's this Literally, if they don't have somebody
from the Department of Energy, the Department of Interior, they
don't have theologians, if they don't have like priests, if
they don't have everybody sitting there collectively trying to find
answers to this and talking and asking their expert opinion,
then they're just pushing propaganda down your throat. So what
anytime you watch something, what are they not showing you?
What are the you know, you got to look in
that direction. While everybody's swimming this way, you need to
be swimming that way. And that's sort of the it's
like it's always this misdirection thing, you know. And and
it gets off in these little these little rabbit holes
and rabbits by the way, or cupuscular they they eat
at twilight zone and dusk and down. And so we
have to remember that. That's like when they say follow
the white rabbit kind of a thing. That's kind of
what that means. It's like, here, go down that little
rabbit hole. We're going to take you away from what's
really going on here. And I think that what's really
going on is like we have these non human intelligence,
is this plasma is what they call non human intelligence.
They are are trying to form into this reality. And
there are people like Epstein and all these who worship
that dark matter, which is what where they kind of
exist at right now in this void until they our reality.
Speaker 1: So they shout out to Ben into the world news.
He says, they're powered. What is it? They're powered the
divine feminine. They're powered by the divine feminine. Like and
what's funny, is it's funny you say that I've been
making these connections with like you just said, Brad, Like
they do worship this dark matter, this dark energy, this
dark life force energy that they really end up calling
it at the end of the day. And not only
does the occult make connections to the divine feminine with
this force, but also scientists are doing this today. You know.
I heard Lisa ran Dahl, which Epstein was very fond of,
went to a lot of her seminars and talked with her,
and she even called the cosmos as this it's this
cosmic womb, right, and if it's conscious and people like
Chris Bledsoe and others who are tapping into esp or
CE five or some sort of psionic capabilities consciously, they're
they're getting in tune with this divine feminine presence, playing
with it, probably getting some sort of help with it,
and thinking that they're actually doing these things right, ushering
in these UFOs or orbs or whatever. But there's a
strong connection with the Lady and with what's going on
like in the cosmos.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like we talked about our show on my show,
Buddy Maya, that's kind of where that word comes from.
They have there's there's people who worship this Maya being,
which means Mary, which means Maria. There's a bunch of
different names all throughout the world that relate to the
word Maya. So sorry by that means rupt you. Now.
Speaker 2: The Nazis, I think we're working on some of this
tech too. They were. That's why I grabbed that book
I got. There's several books on this. But doctor Joseph Farrell,
I've got some of his stuff. He was going in
and looking into He went deep down the rabbit hole
and he found out that they were looking at plasmos.
The Nazis working with plasmos and ether tech and all
that stuff. And I mean, I know that gets like
put over on the on the shelf is just pure conspiracy.
But I was looking into the Bail projects, and the
Bail I think it was a real project. And what
I'm getting at here is I think that that I
don't know that they built that the Nazis actually built UFOs,
but they were trying. I think over time somebody continued
that research and maybe they constructed the Actually they were
able to actually build some of this stuff. But the
original Bell project was called Kronos, and we think that
they meant time or Saturn by that. And they also
had Project Lantern Bearer where these people they were at
the Gross Rails and concentration camp and they were seeing
this barrel like item glowing light blue and floating up
over the tree line. And they had a scientist there
named Gerlock who you could look into who he was
actually studying anti gravity at the time for the Nazis.
And then late in nineteen forty four, I think it was,
they had another guy named Spoorenberg, Joseph Spornberg, who was
ordered to kill all those scientists. They killed sixty scientists
that were working on these secret projects. So that tells
me that they really wanted to keep that information internalized.
But I think that they were working on it. And
you know, I'm I think the UFO thing is very complicated,
and I think there's several different things going on. I
think some of that isn't isn't human. I think some
of it is.
Speaker 1: I pulled up that I pulled up that picture of
the Testa act because you know, you brought up the
Nazis and all that, and I know, Ben, I mean
a brad, you know, like you've discussed like this idea
man and I'm really wondering if they can possibly harness
right this plasma, you know, if it's conscious and it
has capabilities of consciousness, I mean, putting this thing into
robots I don't think would be outside of their agenda
or their ideas, you know, And maybe it's possible. I
don't know, that's the that's a conspiracy to me, but I.
Speaker 3: Think, I mean, they need a lot of electromagnetic energy
to sustain this their their form that they create, and
I don't think that there's enough electromagnetic energy.
Speaker 1: Well what if the energy is like around us, kind
of like Tesla right, was playing with the same stuff,
and he talked about that there's like this universal energy
and it had the ability to power everything in the
entire world at a low cost. Right, So maybe there's
a way to power this kind of stuff. We just
haven't either explored it or haven't gotten there yet.
Speaker 3: Well, what you see behind me twirling the background back there,
that's actually levitating. That's literally like a magnetic field that's
pushing that up. And so like magnetics here are like
that's where everything's electromagnetic. Everything's held together with electromagnetic energy.
We are and you mentioned the dark matter being the gravity.
The gravity would be that binding element that that dark
matter would be the binding element to that. It's like
the space that's in between that's kind of keeping all
of our all of our seven uptiion atoms together. And
so I think that when people do go into these
for example, they go to pyramids or whatever and they
have these you know, a lot of times people will
go to stoneheens in these places or even these temporary
temples which are like these crop circles they have. They
act the same way as like Stonehenge, by the way,
and when people go in there, they have these meditative
states where they can see into the future, they can
see into the past, they get revelations and all this
other stuff. And I think what happens is is they
it separates our atoms because our atoms are kind of
vibrating together, and it separates our atoms and then I mean,
I could probably go in forever about that, but it
basically takes us to a different world. There's many worlds.
These atoms are like many universes within side of us,
and so I think that they probably are seeing into
different realities and stuff in these locations. But that's the
forbidden fruit. That's that's the tree of knowledge of good
and evil. Like you when you do DMT and things
like that, you're going to these places and you're accessing
knowledge that you're not supposed to have. We're supposed to
be humans where you know, for this small window of
time for a reason, and people forget that. It's like
we're not just being, we're not just passive creations. We're
supposed to do something here. And to me, that's personally
to learn how to love. Especially when you look into
near death experiences and all these things, they they say
the same thing they meet God, God asked them, did
you learn how to love? They have a life review
of the whole nine yards? And so I think that
that's a pretty important aspect, is to remember that we're
uniquely humans and there's a lot of things that want
to get into this reality to be humans, but they
can't be humans because Hugh means color, light, hue, you know, men,
human being, and so we're color beings, we're light beings,
and we're made in God's image because God is light.
And so like there's these there's these things that want
that and they can't have that, and they can again
they can. They can put all these funny robots and
stuff with half a heads and all this stuff. But
it's just funny to watch to me because I think
of us as these beautiful, amazing create this thing that
God created, this amazing and that can't be recreated, and
no matter how hard they tried it, it's just so
when I see that, it's like looking at an ai
that tried to create a painting that Picasso did or
something like that. This doesn't look the same. And so
that was kind of what I was getting that that
was where my contrarian viewpoint comes from. But I don't
even remember why I started going down that path of
saying all this. I forgot the main part of the conversation.
I just think that that that main cube that's inside
of this is I'll take it back to that that
main cube. Are you're talking about the testa ract. That
is literally what I'm saying. With these platonic solids that
are inside of these complex plasmas, it really is kind
of like a testa rak where you have a cube
inside of a cube, you know what I mean. And
it's and that's what I've been to the Mecca and
Medina over in Saudi Arabian. Those things is like the
black cubes, right, and that's at the center of the universe.
So there's something to these these cubes and these shapes
and stuff that people worship. Yeah, that's what that is.
I mean, that's literally what the Black Cube is over
in uh. I believe it's Mecca. I can't remember. I
was in the military, did a lot of traveling throughout
the Middle East, so I got to see a lot
of these places. But I think that they there are
different dimensions like that book.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, there's different dimensions. That's what I was
gonna say. It's I think the tests RAC is a
good representation of I'll just say the next dimension over
you know, we're in the third. That would be the fourth, right,
it would represent the fourth and how shapes move in
the fourth dimension. And then from there, you know, you
can use the illustration of the Russian dolls. A little
doll that sits in a bigger doll that sits in
a bigger doll, sits in a bigger doll. That would
be us would be the little doll in the third,
and then you got the fourth dimension, fifth dimension, sixth
dimensions to the shapes are going to move as you
as you further, you know, Expand that's how I think
about the dimensions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do too, And that's that's essentially what that
was what Stephen was showing as well, the triangles. That's
a fractal and that's what the kind of what I'm
getting at is is like different with the with the plasma.
When you have this silicon brain, there's a bunch of
those in there. It's like a crystal lattice of all
these little silicons inside of there, and they're creating these
electrical sparks that go back and forth. And that really
is kind of like a a lot of times when
people think when they think of like atoms, for example,
they think the atoms are just are the electrons just
orbiting the abbot atom like this, like in a circular motion,
But it's actually kind of like going like this. It's
like craziest erratic is kind of doing all this other stuff.
And I think that people know that you can tap
into that and you can travel in these different dimensions
of the physical reality that we live in, if that
makes any sense. And yeah, those tests racks are kind
of like those dimensions of our physical reality. And it's
funny because I had Tofer Gardner on my show and
we were talking about this, and he had a very
interesting take. And I saw this I used to be.
I used to live in Tampa and the Salvador Dolly
Museum is in Saint Pete and me and my wife
went out. We looked at some of the Salvador Dolly
paintings and there's one called the Crucifix and if you
won't see men, you can pull it up, but it's
like it's the Crucifix of Jesus coming out of this
this cube. And Tofer had this brilliant thought about it.
He's like, this is what Jesus was showing us. He
was showing us you can escape this cube, because this
is all physical, this is all material. You can escape
this and go into the spiritual. And I thought that
was beautiful. Well that that Tofer talked about that, because
that's what this is. This box, this cube that we're in,
is the the the physical reality is sort of like
this prison, and we have to escape this sort of
matrix and blossom to that that spiritual world. So that
that painting by salvag Or DOLLI with Jesus called Crucifixion
is a really important painting and it paints a good
picture of like what it literally paints a good picture
of what this reality is and what Jesus mission was.
And by the way, a cube when you unfold it,
when you unfold a box, it's in the form of
a cross.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen that analogy. I hate whenever new agers,
you know, like to add in like the zodiac to
every square there and act like you know that it's
all astro theological, you know, uh, analogy, because I do
think that that is very true. Uh, but also like,
you know, the worshiping of the cube, wouldn't that be
the opposite of the worshiping of the opening up of
the cube, which would be Jesus on the cross. Like,
it's kind of odd to uh say that those are equal,
you know what I mean that you're doing the same
essentially the same thing, right, you know, what do you
think about that? Guys?
Speaker 1: I'm just curious.
Speaker 2: Dolly was was, you know, take take this for what
it's worth, and I looked into it. Dolly was going
into natural what's called natural portals. He lived in the
area of Spain, and it's known out there that there
are natural portals, places where you can go, and I
think it's it's to go back to that Egyptian chamber
chamber analysis again. It's a place where you can go
meditate and you will enter into another space. That's what
I've been told about Dolly and what his circle is,
close circles that he was doing. And they've got a
black stone out there near him, and you can go
and lay on the blackstone and apparently you'll go into
a portal. And it's not like in the movies. Apparently
where you see like the swirling thing that you step through.
This is something that might be real too. I don't
know what this is. Something different, this is. I don't
think you can see the portal, but you have to
know where it's at. You can go and you can
interact with it. And he's got other paintings like that
that he said he was inspired to paint based on
his portal experiences. There's one out there where he lives
in Spain. It's in a train depot, I think, and
they've got a big mural up and I mean it
looks trippy. It looks like something you'd see in what
was the movie that showed the test ract was that
Matthew McConaughey movie. I guess know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: Transformers had it test reacting, and but I don't think
that's the one.
Speaker 2: There's a there's a McConaughey movie where he would have
Interstellar interstell it's Interstellar and there's that scene where all
the shapes start moving.
Speaker 1: That's almost a movie that's almost a remake of like
Space Odyssey. You know, we're at the ends, like in
this room, but he's like in this other realm, you know,
looking back at him, at himself. So and again like
the occult is all about self realization, self awareness, and
so when they throw these things in there, they they
they flash that I wanted to bring something to the stage.
This is uh, this is Gordie Rose. This is the
guy who started d Wave. DWave. DWave Systems is a
pioneering quantum computing company recognizes the first to commercialized quantum computers,
primarily using a method called quantum analine to solve complex
optimization problems. The big thing with quantum computing too, that
not just him, but a lot of people in the
circle of quantum computing. They talk about quantum computing being
able to solve problems, problems that we can't solve today.
For example, you know what if climate change got so bad, right, Okay,
like let's just say it got so bad to a
point where humanity did and did not know how to
deal with the problem anymore. Well, these people are actually
looking towards quantum computing to solving issues like that, where
it doesn't have to be political, it doesn't have to
be emotional. Religious groups don't have to, you know, go
after each other over certain things that happen or need
to happen in society or whatever. Right, So it's kind
of wild. He gets into.
Speaker 3: Like a.
Speaker 1: Sci fi He gets sci fi a little bit here,
so it's kind of hilarious. But it's interesting what he's
about to say. I'll play the whole thing, we'll talk
about it after.
Speaker 7: AI is just like that. So when this thing that
I'm talking about happens, it's going to be exactly the
thing that you're thinking about about those super intelligent AIS.
So the one thing I can tell you is there
not going to be like us. So alien means, you know, different,
these things that we're building are not going to be people.
They might be really smart, they might be really good
at all sorts of different things. But they're not gonna
be like us. They're gonna be aliens, and they're gonna be,
i'm sorry to say, way smarter than every single person
in this room in ways that we can't even comprehend.
So this, of course triggers a lot of alarm. One
of the guys who talks about this is Elon, who
says things like this, like, when you do this, beware
because you think, just like the guy in the stories,
that when you do this, you're gonna put that that
that little guy in a pentagram, and you're gonna have
your holy water out and you're gonna wave it at
the thing, and by god, it's gonna do exactly what
you say and not one thing more.
Speaker 3: But it never works out that way.
Speaker 7: So this isn't This is an attitude that some are having,
this emerging alarmism about the way this is gonna go.
But this, these words demons, doesn't capture the essence of
what's happening here. I don't know if any of you
are turn of the century weird fiction fans, but there's
this guy named HP Lovecraft who's a very famous American
weird fiction author, and he exposed of you, which is
called cosmicism, and the essence of cosmicism is cosmic indifference.
So what he was saying is basically, yes, there are
these massively intelligent entities out there, but they're not good.
Speaker 3: They're not evil.
Speaker 7: They just don't give a shit about you, even in
the slightest. The same way that you don't care about
an ant is the same way they're not going to
care about you. And these things that were summoning into
the world now are not demons, they're not evil, but
they're more like the love crafty and great old ones.
There are entities that are not necessarily going to be
aligned with what we want.
Speaker 3: So this transition is really.
Speaker 8: Dang, what do you it was, just just get after it.
Go ahead, go ahead to him, all right, you told
me about.
Speaker 3: This guy, the cube, the cuban, the background behind him too,
that diamond.
Speaker 1: About the snake on his shirt too.
Speaker 4: He's got.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna tie in something with Dolly and
tied directly into this.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: So so Dolly said that Dolly, who's this guy?
Speaker 2: Yes, I'll Salvador Dolly the painting right, the painter. He
said that that stone that he was interacting with was
connected to twenty three different dimensions. And he was going
out and working with a stone metaphysically like he was
laying in it and doing some sort of as for
traveling or whatnot. And uh, he encoded it in his
painting Birth of Liquid Desires. I can come back to
that later if we want to look at it. But
apparently the cradle and the stone was it according to
local legend, was was a child of light who was
sent here five thousand years ago and was cared for
by a goddess from the east, and some people believe
it was Lucifer, and the legend also says that the
stone was cared for by Venus. Of course that you
get your goddess stuff in there. But I just wanted
to tie that in and with what you just showed,
I want to say, this is, you know, the old
ones coming to Earth essentially. That's I hear him describing
that in a in a different way. I hear him,
you know, Salvador da Ali doesn't was was painting all
this stuff before technology was really a thing, before the
internet for phones. This is what I hear Gordy Rose
talking about is very similar in my mind, except now
we're in the technological era, and I think we're interest
entering into what I'm calling the singularity era.
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? What do you mean
by singularity era?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: What would that?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: Okay, and sorry, I didn't mean to take the whole
thing off of gory Rose. I just thought if tie
it end, But I think so let me just breface
it like this. I think that the leads are using
that word singularity, so it is their word, so I'm
using it to to get the point across. It's it's
Ray Kurzweil's word. He put it out in a book
called Age of the Spiritual Machine, right that came out
in nineteen ninety nine. I think the title sort of
says it all right there. And he said that in
twenty twenty nine the singularity would occur. And that goes
back to that Ben Gorzel quote. I read at the
very beginning what they think the singularity is going to be.
So I think they're working on that. I think they're
actively engaged in a plan to bring this in. I
think it parallels with Agenda twenty thirty because the time
matches up twenty twenty nine Agenda twenty thirty. And that's yeah,
that's the Singularity. And I think if it does happen,
for anything even remotely close to anything remotely close to
that actually happens, then it will put us into a
new era. And so, for better or worse, I've just
been calling it the Singularity era. This something that's coming.
We seem to be on this trajectory. And you know,
I'm not I don't carry water for Rayker as well.
Don't agree with everything he says, and I'm not a fanboy.
I'm just simply researching and noticing and trying to stay away.
Like I said, there's no fear here. I'm just trying
to know what's going to happen. I'm not scared of this,
you know, I've got Jesus. I'm good. I'm not worried
about any of this stuff. I've got the armor of Christ.
But I do want to know what's coming for multiple reasons.
I'm gonna get into all of them. But he started
that his graph. He's got a technology graph, and he
starts it with the Nazis in the forties, and he
shows you how we got to where we are technologically
right now twenty twenty six. How we got here, and
it starts with the Nazis. They developed the first computer.
It was like a proto computer, but it was a computer.
And it's a perfect tilt upwards to where we are
right now. So you have to ask yourself, you know,
if we're heading towards something, which we are if you
look at the way technology has advanced every year, it's
something new that they introduce. That's why the iPhone gets
a little better every year. I think they've got that
planned out, of course, but every year they give us
a new little piece of technology, and we just keep
climbing up this ladder. Well, where are we headed towards?
And I think they think that we're heading towards the singularity.
So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4: Throughout my connections that I've made recently regarding this. First
of all, that guy's talking about how these are not demons.
You know, whenever you read into anybody that used to
interact with demons back in the day, they described it
exactly the same. These entities don't care about you. These
are pretty much gods. Why would they care about you?
You come and make a deal with them and whatever
whatever that's you know that's how they would describe it.
So I don't see how he's differentiating. He in no
way did that argument differentiate what I've read as demons
or entities or elementals and what he's describing as these
love crafty and old ones. But the love crafty and
old ones, I think we're best described in the Stranger Things.
If you want to kind of access this concept of
like what are they doing with it? I think, as
you said before, MK Ultra tied in very heavily with
this technology that they're trying to create with merging Man,
with machine, et cetera. I think all that goes hand
in hand and with that mind, you know, whenever you
look back at like what do they want to create? Right?
A Superman right, the New Man, right, X Men, right,
the whole mutation. You know, well, if you look at superheroes,
like if we were to look at DC or Marvel, right, well,
a hero first of all comes from the old Greek word,
which is demigu. So this does one hundred percent correlate
right back to demigods or nephlo. So if that's the
case and they want to bring back superheroes, right, or
people who are Superman right, then, how do they describe
these superheroes? How do they show them? They're all through
technology or chemical technology, right, like the Hulk. They're created
in this new heroic super kind of light, right, And
I think that's their plan. It's technology, it's chemistry, it's
you know, nuclear fission, all these things together to bring
this new Superman, this X Man, this, you know. And
I think that you know, obviously that's a very hollywood
esque version of this example, but I do think to
an extent, that's kind of what we're looking at. Like,
none of those for the most part, none of these
superheroes are like born that way. I think the main
one in the DC comics was like from an alien
like like some other place. He was born that way,
but he's like an alien. So I mean, most of
these people are like humans that have been chained in
some way. So I think that's kind of worth looking at.
To an extent, that's what they're kind of looking for.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the movie X Amount Apocalypse, right
when exactly there's the mcures, right, there's the Ultimate Sources,
the one right, Yeah, crazy movie too, And.
Speaker 4: It's funny that it would be an Egyptian god that
they would be bringing back for this. You know, it
correlates exactly with kind of what we're talking about. I
think it's obviously a hollywoodized version, but I do think
it carries some weight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well, I mean with the robotics and all that,
it doesn't necessarily have to be just for the idea
of like entities to be using them as vessels or whatever,
which I do think is possible and I think is
like a part of the plan. But also I think
the elites have this. They have this, they have this
agenda to where they want to live forever, and really
the only way that they believe in doing that is
by transferring their consciousness over to another clone or robot, right,
and Elon Musk talked about it. He thinks we're twenty
years out from that even being possible. And then he
makes a joke like you're not going to be like
the same person. You're going to be in a robot body,
so you'll be different, but really, are you the same
person as you were ten years ago? You know? And
I'm like, oh my gosh. And then another crazy thing too,
is like the Ralian cult where it was told Rayel
was told the same thing by the Zlohem with his
abductions experience, he was told the way that they have
longevity and sustained life forever on their plane is by
creating clones of themselves, making sex bots and realizing that
what they did with the sex bots, they can do
now and put their consciousness in robots too, right, and
so humanity's got to move towards this before they return.
Right where what book was this in? Sorry, so this
is just look up realism and it'll r A E
L R A E L is M. Yeah. And so again,
if we're talking about, you know, like we did back
in the beginning of the show or wherever, about these chambers,
about these ideas of these kings and these elites and
these people who have this sacred knowledge that they go
and they put themselves in these states, and they go
and they have these experiences with these nhis. They come
back and they're actually trying to fulfill what those nhi
are telling them to do. Think of the normal DMT experience,
right with the normal high school kid or college kid whatever.
They're going into these states and they're actually changing their lives, right,
They're being influenced and manipulated and so the same thing's
happening with this elite, you know, transhumanist cult. Right. I
wouldn't doubt that any of these guys are taking drugs
and going out there getting ideas and coming here and
brand trying to fulfill them. They don't really understand the agenda,
the bigger agenda, right, they don't really understand the NHI.
They don't have a construct of what they may be
who they work for, So they're not asking these questions
that maybe we bring up. They're going they're getting this
information and they're pushing it forward here. It's like as
above so below. You know, it's like it's wild, dude.
Speaker 4: I've never heard of realism till just now, and holy shit, man,
you don't have to look any further than realism to
prove so many things that I've been trying to kind
of point at, which is the whole idea of like
the inw Naki that comes from like an Israeli mathematician.
I'm sure he was a part of this ralist society. Probably, Man,
that's really crazy. I don't know. I was just looking
at that as a holy shit, what more proof do
you need that they worship like that? The fallen angels
and they want to bring their you know, their tech back.
It's just crazy. I mean, what more proof do you
need there?
Speaker 1: So yeah, I've dove so deep into that cult, and
the more I see what's going on with Epstein and
his network and his philosophy is I'm like, dude, I
think he was talking to the same things. I think
he's talking to the same things. And really, uh, if
that's what they want to do, and if these uh
you know principalities are the ones that ultimately are in
control of this narrative or this agenda. Again, like I
think there is a way to resist it before a
limited amount of time untill they accomplish their goals physically, yes, yeah,
physically right right exactly, These.
Speaker 3: These entities were coming in through these portal locations that
we were talking about earlier. This is where they were,
This is where they were giving information to humans, was
through these these places where you know, there's these points
in the sky could NaSTA actually calls them X points
and they call them literal portals that where magnetic reconnection
happens from between the Sun and the magnetosphere. Well, there's
also X points on Earth, which are where kind of
where lay lines intersect and lay lines. What I'm coming
to understand as I've been doing this for the last
couple of years, is basically like where that those to
lurc energies, which are electrical currents that come from Earth.
They come from Earth in these regions that are heavy
with magnetite, like I mentioned these fault lines, these volcanoes.
Mount Herman, by the way, is has a major I
don't know if it's a volcanic lake or something like
that there that's in the Golden Heights. So there's always
every paranormal experience you've ever heard of or ever seen,
like in Peru for example, all these crazy things that
are in Peru, they have like ten volcanoes, and so
it's not a surprise. So what there's what they were
interacting with at these locations I think were these entities,
these non human intelligences which are these plasmas, and so
like these plasmas again, I think they just have this
way of altering your mind because they are electromagnetic energy
and they can kind of, you know, send signals to
your mind and make you think that you're communicating with
them and things like that, and they were you know,
people were going to these locations and they were having
these visions, and they were having all these wow, you
can do like make up and stuff here, and they
were they were really that this is where all that happened.
You know, I mean, listen, every every major paranormal thing
happens on an area that's You can do this, by
the way, for those who are listening. Go to USGS
and they have these magnetic anomaly and gravity maps and
you can overlay a magnetic anomaly map on top of
any parallel paranormal location you won't, and you'll find that
there's a magnetic anomaly in every single one of those areas.
And that's where I was talking about, where that separation happens,
where that that portal opens and these things come into
our reality. And this is why Jesus said, I'm gonna build,
you know, my church and to on top of Mount Hermer,
to basically on top of the gates of Hell. And
these gates of Hell to me, are that iron that
locks that magnetite. It's that seventy five percent of the
iron that that traps that man, that those noble gases
in the magnetite. And when you get into noble gases.
The idea of noble gases, which pilots that plasma body
that I mentioned earlier, is the pilots gas that drives
it around. Well, the noble gases. I mean, the word
noble comes from the idea of like prints of persia
and things like that, so that you got nobility. This
is like the noble gases, meaning this is what they
were interacting with. They were interacting with this nobility, and
so that's where the word comes from. But you know,
kind of kind of take it off on that different
direction there.
Speaker 4: I had a question. I had a question about that.
Do you think that that has a lot to do
with the you know, I've been talking a lot on
my show about this idea of nanoparticles, graphenoxide, smart dust,
et cetera, getting in your body, self replicating, and most
importantly getting through the blood brain barrier where you have
your electromagnetic powerhouse, essentially rendering it a receiver of information.
And say, you you know, because I believe that we're born,
you know, with the proper shielding from these entities spiritually
and mentally, and that they want to bypass that. And
the way you would do that is you start spraying
the guys with nanoparticles that could kind of get and
you start doing that, and I think what you're explaining
it really like lays a lot of like scientific evidence
to theories that I've been talking about. It's very awesome.
So yeah, I love to talk to more about some
of this stuff because it's yeah bad as Thank.
Speaker 3: You, I appreciate that. But yeah, I think I think
bury him and aluminum B A and al and sprayed
in the sky exactly. But yeah, I think that there's
these portal locations, or there's there's magnetic anomalies that are
happening that are allowing these You know, it's funny because
I'm doing this. I'm going to be doing an episode
tomorrow on swamp gas. I don't know if you guys
have ever heard of the swamp gas case of nineteen
sixty six in Michigan. This is where Jay Allen Heinich
was like, yeah, it was just swamp gas and they
try to debunk the claims of like these UFOs. Well,
actually I've been like looking into that and when you
start looking into it, he's literally saying all the same
things I'm saying. You're talking about decaying vegetation and how
it creates gases and all this other stuff that basically
lines up with what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: So it's really interesting.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be doing a kind of a deep dive
on that. I guess you could say, but wasn't that
wasn't that sort of a cover story?
Speaker 2: Like no, all the people said they saw UFOs in
the area, like hundreds of people.
Speaker 3: Not everybody saw UFOs that when you read through all
the reports, I kind of like, I don't. First of all,
Jay Abiheinich worked for the government for twenty years that
he admitted to you know, telling you know, sending people
off on different paths and stuff like that. So he
admitted to lion basically. But when you read through these reports,
you get an idea because Project Blue Book was around
for about twenty years, but it was just a small
portion of people. It was like five people that worked
in this office. And so when they had this massive
influx of sightings in nineteen sixty six, which is in
ann Arbor, the Dexter area of Michigan, they had hundreds
of people witnessed lights. It was mostly lights, these different
colored lights, and these different colored lights. By the way,
these orbs, they're all, they're all the same colors of
these noble gases. When you look up noble gases, they
burn blue and orange and white, all the same colors
that orbs burn and so like. So his mission when
he went to this case to star, he was sent
by the US Air Force by himself, and he had
to basically, he didn't have any help, and he had
hundreds of people, including cameras and stuff, asking him all
these questions about all these cases, and so he had
three days to basically do a report, and so he
couldn't interview everybody. So everybody was really mad and they
couldn't interview everybody. But he was basically saying that I
had to look at just the gas the lights, basically
the lights that were coming off these swamps. And I
did talk to a few people who had UFO encounters,
but they were like the outliers of all these these
light stories. And so he was talking about Vietna being
staffed well enough, and he was just complaining a lot
in his report, to be honest with you, but he
did say that he got together a bunch of scientists
from Michigan, like eleven scientists, and they talked about all
this in depth, what could it be? And this is
where he got his swamp gas theory from. But when
you look at it, I'm telling you, dude, it's like
really close to kind of what I'm talking about right now,
which is like these locations where all this magnetic energy
is happening and these gases are interacting and kind of sparking,
and they're floating around and then they disappear, and then
they keep sparking up again and then disappear. But so
what they were seeing was some of them did morph
into UFOs. So swamp gas does equal UFO, like Marcus saying.
But what that means is like when this plasma body
comes into this physical reality, it hits a magnetic field
and becomes that ORB, and that orb has an electromagnetic field,
has an energy to its ball lightning, and so it's
electrically charged. And it pulls from the putrefied ions of
decaying plants and vegetation, and it's pulling from the putrefied
ions of dead animals and humans, and it's creating this
It's like skin walkers. It's basically pulling all these particles
in and like forming into something, if that makes.
Speaker 4: Any sense, dude. It makes perfect sense. I've been thinking that.
I've been thinking this was the fucking phenomenon the whole time.
I couldn't explain it the way you're saying, But I've
been thinking there's got to be because with the New
Jersey drones, they had people look up at this guy
at the drones, but what else was up there? The orbs?
And I think that was the point of the owns
was get you to look at the orbs up there,
and you know, when you look at like the Manhattan Project,
I've been thinking a long time that it's not just
about a bomb, you know what I mean. I think
that a lot of that was accessing this portal. You
see a lot of the UFO shit after that. I actually,
while we were talking earlier, I looked into how much
magnetic science and experiments were going on with the Manhattan Project,
and it was a major element of those experiments. So
I wonder if maybe they were able to access this
portal whatever it is, bring in some plasmoids, let them
do their thing. And now we've been getting UFO siding
since and what you're explaining really just fills the holes
of what I've been wondering. So that's fucking nuts love it.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a guy named Dave Z that used to
do podcasting a couple of years ago. But he was
talking a lot of weird stuff, and you know, I
just remember thinking, like, what is he talking about?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 3: So I started kind of listening to him a little
bit and he was kind of getting at a lot
of the same stuff that I'm getting at. But he
basically became a government contractor, I think, and he stopped
doing podcasts. So I actually have this whole theory about
that that something else is just abed them up.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean that's what usually the government does. They get,
they get people, they bring him in. This is what
they did with the guy Winston Bostik that I talked
about in the fifties. He discovered these these plasmoids is
what he called them, plasma toroids that he was creating,
and the government said, well, here's an NBA. You're going
to be working for us for the next fifty years.
And I think that's what they do with people. Once
they start figuring this stuff out, they kind of pull
them in and say here's a big chunk of money
when it come work for us now, and don't tell
anybody about this. So but yeah, there's a guy named
Dave Zed that was kind of talking similar. He was
talking about plasma and how easy it is to bring
these things into reality.
Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, yeah, thank you for all that, because that's
that's some informative shit.
Speaker 3: Wow, I don't think it's I mean, for me, I'm
just like to do the weird part about the nineteen
sixty six Michigan case. Where I grew up. This is
so bizarre, by the way, to me anyways, it might
not mean anything to anybody else, But like where I
grew up, it's a town of one thousand people. I
live in a little down a dirt I grew up
down the dirt road in the middle of the woods.
And there's like a little tiny community of people, like
a bunch of little you know, like a little tribal
you know. This family's over here, this family's on that road,
this family. So there's only a little small community. Was
a guy named Mendel Rivers who came from that little community.
That little community is called Gumville, South Carolina, and it
changed into the hometown that I that grew up knowing.
But Mendel Rivers live right across the Woods from me. Well,
he was the first guy. He was the head of
the House Armed Services Committee that gave the US that
did the uf but the first UFO briefing in nineteen
sixty six with Jay Allen Hindeck. So I thought that
was a pretty interesting By the way, I'm always like,
I always personally have things tied into these stories. When
I start peeling them back, I'm like, holy crap, that's
the same day I was born. This is like my
mother's name and maiden name, for example, is like these
weird things, these weird little tie ins all the time.
So I don't know what's going on there, but really
interesting thing to me.
Speaker 4: At least synchronicities.
Speaker 1: Yeah, gentlemen, it's been a pretty good show man, and
we're two hours deep, and I think it's a good
time to wrap up. If anyone in the chat has
any questions for everybody, just shoot them in the chat,
you know. I wanted to say so, And I think
that with everything we threw on the table tonight, I
think there's conclusions to take from this, and who knows
exactly what's going to play out in the future, but
I know there's some weird esoteric transhumanists agenda behind all
of these weird things. Pulling all the different sources from
multiple pieces of information and then throwing it all on
the table in front of you, you can kind of
get a decent idea of what they think, what their
philosophies are, and where they want to go with with
with the future. Man. But if anyone wants to, uh,
take as much time as you want, but we'll we'll
have some closing and then we'll plug away and if
there's any questions from the chap well we'll get to
the questions.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 1: So Tim, go ahead, brother, if there's anything you wanted
to you know, ramp up, put a bow.
Speaker 2: On or Okay, yeah, I guess the last thing I
heard that I really wanted to comment on was the
uh Andrew, I think you said this. You may have
alluded to it too, Stephen. Bringing the old tech back,
that was just a great point. I thought that was
a you know, that might be a good place to
end it. You know, that's what I think is kind
of going on, you know, bringing back then fulm tech.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: That, in my opinion, that's sort of what's happening here.
It has been incursions of it throughout time, and it's
I don't know. The spooky thing about the Nazi part
of it is that they did, they really did pay
it the way for this current technological era. And I
I see parallels with the Nazis and the Sumerians. Sumerians,
honestly in that regard where it's like three thousand BC,
Samerians show up in their advance. They there are no tools,
no cave men, backstory that you can tell about them
from history. They just showed up, civilized and advanced. And
then I see that with the Nazis. You look at
nineteen thirties Nazi Germany. They're broke, they're burning their money
in the street, they don't have an army. They're a
broken country. And ten years later they are the new
empire on the block, wielding all this crazy technology, some
of it fifty years ahead of everybody else. How did
that happen? How did that happen? And I'll just pose
the question and leave it there. But I think it
goes back to Prophecy potentially and the days of Noah.
What was will be again big tree generation and bringing
back the old tech. And that's all I got. God bless.
Speaker 1: Thank you, brother, if there's anything you want to, you know,
add to the conversation.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Uh, first of all, shout out to chat
right on everybody. Yeah, No, I think this was a
great talk. I think that you know, when you look
into the Book of Jashure, which was taken out of
the Bible, I believe on purpose because it describes the
mixing of animals right with people and different animals and
all kinds of crazy abominations, and that gives context to
what the days of Noah were when it talks about
all flush was corrupt. You know Spielberg who's making the
Age of Disclosure documentary this year, No, I'm sorry, the
Age of Disclosure movie or whatever. That disclosure movie is
called Disclosure Day. I think it is. He's a Laurel
Canyon guy, you know, so he's got the plug in
on this type of info. But I think that, yeah,
you know, we're just getting a lot of seeding of
the mind and we'll see what's coming. But yeah, like
that same guy made the Jurassic Park movie way before
they were bringing back the dire Wolf, and here we
are they brought it back, so so you know, we'll see,
we'll see what happens Spielberg maybe doing the same thing
with Disclosure Day, so you know, we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, brother brad Man, take it away.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I talked a lot to guys. I have a
tendency to do that sometimes, which is actually why on
my show, I'm going to be doing more solos and
less interviews because I just like to sit there and
run my mouth, and so it's probably best that I
just not have guests for a little while and just
kind of get all this stuff out of me. So
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seen all of y'all's clips, and I love hearing y'all talk.
I think y'all have brilliant minds. Steven obviously included. And
also thanks to the chatman, you guys are awesome. I've
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Speaker 1: So yeah, man, and this is his YouTube channel here
Andrew plug away brother.
Speaker 4: Yeah, YouTube is where we do a lot of live shows.
I'm mostly doing weekend shows right now because I've been
working a lot in my personal life. So tomorrow probably
have a couple back to back lives. Come join me
because we'll be catching up on all this crazy ass
shit going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, anywhere else you get your show too? Of course, Spotify, Apple.
I second what Brad said, Yeah, show us some love
for sure.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: All right, Tim my man, Oh yeah, plugs the plugs.
Tim Constantine sixth Sensory Podcast. I spell it out s
I X Unlike my my friend here Andrew. He uses
the number six and I choose to spell mine out.
Speaker 4: So it looks good with it. It looks good with
the G next to it, doesn't it do?
Speaker 2: There's there's there's some there's some marketing novice there for sure.
Speaker 4: You know what I didn't know when I made it.
The six seven fat hadn't came around yet, but the
six and then G seven, right, So I think that's funny.
I got it in my name, so I'm manifesting. I'm
just kidding. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Best place to find me is Spotify. I'm on Spotify, YouTube, Apple, Instagram.
I have a Patreon. I drop bonus content every week
on Patreon. But yeah, best place to find me a
sixth century podcast on Spotify. Thank you, guys, it's been.
It's been great. It's been. It's been a good chat
engaging for sure, and shout out shout out to the chat.
I appreciate you, guys. Everybody who shows up for Steven
and and sort of promotes his show and and always
comes and it's kind of loyal and faithful to his platform.
It's it's awesome to see that community grow, and I
appreciate all you guys. It's nice to be a part
of it occasionally.
Speaker 1: No, I appreciate that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, the chat's awesome.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I love that, man, and I appreciate you guys. It's
it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: You guys are my friends. Man like minded individuals. That's
who we got to kind of group up with nowadays.
But thank you guys. You guys have all amazing shows. Folks,
be sure to go ahead and support them where they
can use it the most and check out their content. Guys,
We'll do it again, Andrew, thanks man for the last
minute jump on.
Speaker 7: Dude.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it, man, love it. I love it. You're You're in,
You're readily.
Speaker 3: I'm always ready.
Speaker 4: He's ready, I got, I got the MIC's in on
my lap all day. Dude. Let's go oh yeah hell
yeah man.
Speaker 1: Oh, I appreciate that, man. No, I know it was
last last minute, man, but it was fun. Good stuck man.
You executed. Everyone executed, and we'll do it again soon.
I want to try and do this once a week
and I'm definitely pumping up the lives a lot more.
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