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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get it started, ladies and gentlemen, at

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<v Speaker 2>his hour number three, the five o'clock hour on a

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 4>Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>That's me, the company man, mister John Allen alongside today

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<v Speaker 2>and we are collectively coffee and Company. And that's not

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<v Speaker 2>just the two of us, that's you guys as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So thanks for hanging out with us. If you are

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<v Speaker 2>just now joining us, welcome in. You've missed out, but hey,

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<v Speaker 2>at least you get at least you get something. You

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<v Speaker 2>can also listen to the whole show whenever it ends

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<v Speaker 2>on the podcast if you, you know, if you're really

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<v Speaker 2>feen in for a three hour fix of a of

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<v Speaker 2>the show, which I guess technically it's about two hours

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<v Speaker 2>total when it comes to content. But yeah, however you're listening,

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<v Speaker 2>wherever you're listening, we certainly appreciate you. So I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>talked a whole lot about the Olympics, other than just

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<v Speaker 2>the occasional story that does get a lot of attention,

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<v Speaker 2>and it you know, I lied to myself once again.

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<v Speaker 2>Next time in twenty twenty eight. I'm just gonna know

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<v Speaker 2>going in, don't even act like you're gonna get into

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<v Speaker 2>the Olympics, because I've said it now for I think

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<v Speaker 2>the last three Olympics.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think there will be an extra incentive since

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<v Speaker 3>we're hosting in twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight maybe, I mean potentially, Like any that's a long

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<v Speaker 2>time away, so maybe by then I'll be like, oh no, Nick,

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<v Speaker 2>You're definitely going to do it this time around, And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'll probably just be lying to myself. But

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<v Speaker 2>one thing I have learned about the Olympics in the

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of days that fascinates me is that some

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<v Speaker 2>of these jobs that exist within the Olympic Games, that

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<v Speaker 2>I mean are serious jobs. They have to be done

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<v Speaker 2>by somebody, and I don't think you get paid. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I was trying to dig up real quick

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<v Speaker 2>during the break there. These are like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people who work at these kinds of st I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of people that work at sporting events

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<v Speaker 2>that do it to volunteer, just to be there and

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<v Speaker 2>be around it.

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<v Speaker 4>Like a lot of the staffers you see that work

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<v Speaker 4>at like Louisville.

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<v Speaker 2>Football games, basketball games, helping out with like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever needs to be, whatever's needed. Like they're doing it

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<v Speaker 2>just to help to volunteer. In fact, whenever we had

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<v Speaker 2>the PGA Championship here in Louisville, if you guys remember,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a ton of volunteers that they needed to

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<v Speaker 2>help out. But like that was the key word volunteers.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't get paid. In fact, you have to pay

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<v Speaker 2>for I think like the like the official gear that

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<v Speaker 2>you wear to show that you're a volunteer. So you're not,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're you're paying to be around it. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess you have to pay for a ticket. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>these jobs, there's four of them that I just think

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<v Speaker 2>are hilarious. One of them is uh is in the

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<v Speaker 2>swimming events, and it's a cap catcher. That's somebody who

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<v Speaker 2>after somebody swims in a race and their cap comes

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<v Speaker 2>off their head if they end up just floating in

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<v Speaker 2>the water or maybe they sink. There's just a dude

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, in a speedo who doesn't have the

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<v Speaker 2>figure that all the Olympic swimmers have that he's just

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<v Speaker 2>tasked to dive in that water and pick up those

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<v Speaker 2>caps because you can't have a cap floating around when

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<v Speaker 2>another race is about to start. I mean, that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>seem like a very enjoyable job, but at least you

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<v Speaker 2>can say you were a part of the Olympics in

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<v Speaker 2>some form or fashion, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess if you really want to be in France

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<v Speaker 3>or wherever, we.

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<v Speaker 2>May give you a fresh tale each time, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're doing it in between every race, like your

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<v Speaker 2>towel's gonna get wet, like you just you're gonna be soggy.

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<v Speaker 2>There's also the block builder, and that is somebody who

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<v Speaker 2>restacks and or polishes the blocks for equestrian events when

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<v Speaker 2>the horses kick them down right, you know, there's those

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<v Speaker 2>blocks there that make up the the the amount of

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<v Speaker 2>how far they got to jump up in the air

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<v Speaker 2>to Again. I really feel like it's nothing but word

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<v Speaker 2>vomit right now, because I don't know any of the

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<v Speaker 2>terminology that that is, you know, needed for talking about

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<v Speaker 2>swimming in equestrian, know nothing about it. You could also

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<v Speaker 2>be a camera cleaner, and this is somebody that literally

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<v Speaker 2>just uh carries around this humongous stick that I guess

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<v Speaker 2>has like, you know, a rag on the end of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're there to clean the camera high above the

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<v Speaker 2>diving board with what appears to be the longest mop

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<v Speaker 2>slash duster you've ever seen. And obviously it gets splashed

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<v Speaker 2>every now and then and it gets wet.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, and you're you know, you're in an area

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<v Speaker 4>with a big pool.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it could just get fog up, some condensation on there,

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<v Speaker 2>and you just carry around this humongous mop duster looking

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<v Speaker 2>thing and you're there to they let you know. When

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<v Speaker 2>the camera's a little foggy or wet, you get up there,

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<v Speaker 2>you wipe it down. That would actually, I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>got to you gotta hold that thing up pretty high

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<v Speaker 2>in the air. That actually seems like a job that

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<v Speaker 2>might require, you know, a little more wor work than

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<v Speaker 2>the others we've mentioned. And then the last one is

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<v Speaker 2>a balloon brandisher. That is somebody who casually walks around

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<v Speaker 2>while brandishing a massive balloon attached to a long pole.

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<v Speaker 2>And what this does is it preps camera angles for

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<v Speaker 2>floor routines. So this is somebody who walks around to

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<v Speaker 2>I guess let those working the cameras know that this

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<v Speaker 2>gymnast their routine is about to you know, be here

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<v Speaker 2>and there, and this is where you need to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure you have the camera. These are jobs that honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>they're important, right, I mean, you got to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>If not, we'd have bad camera angles. For gymnastics, we'd

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<v Speaker 2>have you know, nobody to stack the blocks. In the

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<v Speaker 2>equestrian we'd have cameras with water on them or fog.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd have cabs in the pool which could get in

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<v Speaker 2>a way and you know, cause a race to be compromised.

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<v Speaker 2>So shout out to these volunteers that are working these

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<v Speaker 2>very important jobs. All right, Uh, if you have not,

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard much of the show today. We have mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the first couple of hours here and there. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it's not led the show from top, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>start to finish. But big news in college football kind

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<v Speaker 2>of sort of the more we discuss it, the more

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's actually nothing. But yet it's something

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<v Speaker 2>that's probably been all over the headlines since it came

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<v Speaker 2>out earlier today, and that is that former Michigan coach

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<v Speaker 2>keyword former Jim Harball has received a four year show

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<v Speaker 2>cause and also he's been given a one season suspension

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<v Speaker 2>from the NCAA Committee on Infractions for COVID nineteen dead

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<v Speaker 2>period recruiting violations in twenty twenty one, roughly four years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>So anytime you hear of a coach that just won

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<v Speaker 2>a national championship that is coaching you know, or was

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<v Speaker 2>coaching at a place like Michigan gets hit with that

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<v Speaker 2>level of a punishment, four year show cause and he's

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<v Speaker 2>got to be suspended for an entire season, that's news,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, unless the guy's not in college football anymore

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<v Speaker 2>and will never be in college football again, not because

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<v Speaker 2>of anything the Committee on Infractions did, but simply because

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<v Speaker 2>he probably wanted to move on from Michigan long ago,

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<v Speaker 2>but he wanted to bring them a national championship, and

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<v Speaker 2>he cheated to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>We know that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know he did it, and in his mind

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't cheat, and he'll never admit it, and we

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<v Speaker 2>may never find out that he had any involvement in it,

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<v Speaker 2>because usually if you're somebody like a Harball and that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff's going on, you make it to where

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<v Speaker 2>nobody could ever prove that you were involved. You leave

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<v Speaker 2>no fingerprints, right, you have no direct communication with anybody

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<v Speaker 2>about what went on, and you can just play dumb

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<v Speaker 2>like he had no clue. So what I think this is,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the NCAA just proving what we already have known

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<v Speaker 2>for many years, and that is that they're out of touch,

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<v Speaker 2>their delusional, and they have become more irrelevant by the day,

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<v Speaker 2>it seems. I mean, the question about the nc DOUBLEA

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<v Speaker 2>in regards to are they really needed for the high level,

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<v Speaker 2>big business, big big, big money sports, like, are they

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<v Speaker 2>really needed? Are they just in the way because they're

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<v Speaker 2>not needed in college football at the top. They're only

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<v Speaker 2>needed in basketball because they give us the NSAA tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>But we felt like for I mean, I remember, gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember listening to Tony Vanettie and Dave Jennings the

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<v Speaker 2>Afternoon Underdogs on this station many many, many years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the NCAA is just gonna not exist anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not needed, they're irrelevant, And here they are. They're

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<v Speaker 2>still around, but it's it's been out there forever, but

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<v Speaker 2>since this turned into anything but amateur sports. This is

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<v Speaker 2>quite literally professional sports on steroids. Now in the last

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<v Speaker 2>few years, with NIL the portal and now with of

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<v Speaker 2>course the schools, they're gonna be the ones paying the players.

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<v Speaker 2>So the NSABA is just not needed. And I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like today was I think they thought they did something

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<v Speaker 2>substantial here. I think they thought they really set an

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<v Speaker 2>example to let people know, hey, despite the perception out

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<v Speaker 2>there about us, we're still here and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>hold people accountable who break rules because that's what we do.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet, like it fell so flat because you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do anything. You laid out a very severe penalty that

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<v Speaker 2>will never actually penalize the person you gave it to

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<v Speaker 2>because you don't have any power to do anything. He's

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<v Speaker 2>untouchable to you. And it seems like even if coaches

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<v Speaker 2>and players are touchable to the NCAA, meaning they're still

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<v Speaker 2>in the sport, rather they're looking to maintain eligibility, whether

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<v Speaker 2>they're looking to defend themselves for allegations that could lead

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<v Speaker 2>to suspensions, all that kind of stuff. I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>feel like even those people at this point feel a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit untouchable, because lately the playbook has been pretty clear.

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<v Speaker 2>Hire a lawyer, fight the NCAA in court, and they

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<v Speaker 2>will lose. So it's a big story Harball one year's suspension,

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<v Speaker 2>four year show cause, but it's nothing because he's mean again,

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<v Speaker 2>Like this is like the NBA suspending me for a season.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh damn.

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<v Speaker 2>Without that suspension, I'd you know, i'd be playing for

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<v Speaker 2>the Knicks like that suspended me from dating Margot Robbie. Well, geez,

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<v Speaker 2>if you didn't hit me with that penalty, we'd be

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<v Speaker 2>we'd be shacking up tonight, Like what are you doing here?

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<v Speaker 2>And I know they've at times punished people who aren't working,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's because they were fired. It's because like they got,

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<v Speaker 2>they got you know, they got in trouble. This guy

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<v Speaker 2>left because he doesn't mean he's not interested in college

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<v Speaker 2>football anymore. And by the way, I should have mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>this for those who haven't really been following it that closely.

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<v Speaker 2>This has nothing to do with sign sealing stuff. This

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<v Speaker 2>is just because of a COVID nineteen recruiting infraction. And

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<v Speaker 2>by the way they did this, they gave him a

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<v Speaker 2>four year ban for recruits getting you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>recruits being contacted when they weren't supposed to be in

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a free meal or something when they weren't supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to get anything. And they did this just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they made this decision, and this took place. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what they're accusing him of doing. The rule breaking that

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<v Speaker 2>months before it became legal to actually pay players, and

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a story, but it also kind of isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And in fact, I think if the instantly wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>backfired on him because they're delusional. The story, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>is how useless they are and how ridiculous it is

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<v Speaker 2>that they put this out there, is if they've actually

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<v Speaker 2>I would say when it comes to the most hated

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<v Speaker 2>college football teams, like all time, it's usually the big dogs,

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<v Speaker 2>together a college football hatred tiers, and the Despised tier

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<v Speaker 2>are arrogant and think that their bleep doesn't stink, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's because they've been really good, at least most of them. Michigan,

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio State, Texas Alabama and Notre Dame. What do all

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<v Speaker 2>those schools have in common? One, they're huge brands. Two

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<v Speaker 2>it's clearly a state that loves football. They have unlimited money,

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<v Speaker 2>But like Texas doesn't have this deep rooted tradition as

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<v Speaker 2>believe they do. Notre Dame does. But like, when's the

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<v Speaker 2>last time Notre Dame won a national championship. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>look that up. I mean it's got to be I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>could let me see? They won in nineteen eighty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>the year I was born. I'm thirty six years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Notre Dame, I always defend Notre Dame because they've

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<v Speaker 2>made the Playoff a lot, and people claim it's because

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<v Speaker 2>they you know, they don't in a reason. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get back to why I'm bringing up the most hated

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<v Speaker 2>teams because this program is not hated all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>but currently Colorado's in the mix. Like people are waiting

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<v Speaker 2>to seek prime fail I'm one of them. But nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 2>like with Notre Dame, I always defending because people will

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<v Speaker 2>a conference and they don't play anybody, which is usually

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<v Speaker 2>not I mean, that's not the truth. They usually end

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<v Speaker 2>up playing a very challenging schedule for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>and just because they get killed in the playoff or

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<v Speaker 2>in the national championship game doesn't necessarily mean they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>belong there. And a lot of the times where they've

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<v Speaker 2>gotten blown out, the team that you feel like should

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<v Speaker 2>have been there in place of them, they probably would

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<v Speaker 2>have got blown out to maybe even worse. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame. They only like again, haven't won a championship

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<v Speaker 2>in thirty six years, and in the College Football playoff.

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<v Speaker 2>Here the last ten seasons, they only have four wins

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<v Speaker 2>against top ten teams. That puts them twenty fifth among

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<v Speaker 2>FBS teams. They're four and fourteen in games against top

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<v Speaker 2>ten teams in that span. Now, with that said, four

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<v Speaker 2>and fourteen against top ten teams, if you found other

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<v Speaker 2>teams that played eighteen times in that span against top

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<v Speaker 2>ten teams, I bet the vast majority would have similar

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<v Speaker 2>or worst records. Because you know what, you don't beat

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<v Speaker 2>top ten teams very often. That's why they're top ten teams,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't lose very often. It's kind of like the

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky stat that I think is you know, I'll admit it,

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<v Speaker 2>look like they're like they're foolish to assume that they've

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<v Speaker 2>arrived as a football program when they really haven't. But

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<v Speaker 2>it is a little misleading to say, well, Mark Stoops

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<v Speaker 2>is what is he? Two and something? Crazy against teams

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<v Speaker 2>with a winning record in the SEC. Well, in an

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<v Speaker 2>eight game schedule, there aren't that many teams that finished

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<v Speaker 2>with winning records in the SEC, because you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a there's a clear, you know, hierarchy of that league

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<v Speaker 2>where you know you can be six and two, seven

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<v Speaker 2>and one pretty much annually and then you know you've

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<v Speaker 2>got your four and four and three and five's in

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<v Speaker 2>the occasional five and three.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyways, back to Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>There there, I mean, I I can't pinpoint one specific

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<v Speaker 2>thing about Deon Sanders his play, Like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what it is, but I think I'm just annoyed. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a hater. In fact, I guess that is what

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<v Speaker 2>it is. Maybe I was just avoiding trying. Maybe I

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<v Speaker 2>was avoiding saying that, but I guess that probably is

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<v Speaker 2>what it is. I'm just a hater like Deon Sanders

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<v Speaker 2>gets so much attention anytime he does anything, he moves

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<v Speaker 2>the needle like nobody else. Last year was proof they

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<v Speaker 2>weren't good, and yet they were one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>talked about teams in the country even when they started

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<v Speaker 2>losing and everybody realized they stunk. Deon Sanders gave Colorado

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<v Speaker 2>the TMZ effect in college football. No matter what's going on,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be talked about, no matter what Deon

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<v Speaker 2>Sanders says, no matter what his record is. When he

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<v Speaker 2>says outlandish things, it's going to be a talking point,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be a storyline. And that's just because

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<v Speaker 2>he has that effect because he's Deon Sanders.

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<v Speaker 4>He's prime.

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<v Speaker 2>So to see that they weren't good last year, They're

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<v Speaker 2>probably going to be similar this year, maybe a little better,

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<v Speaker 2>but yet they'll still be talking about a whole lot

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<v Speaker 2>like that just annoys me, and I guess in the

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<v Speaker 2>end that just makes me a hater because I'm feeling

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<v Speaker 2>like they shouldn't be getting the attention that they're getting.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, am I wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>John?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like they're a pretty not at easy I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to say an easy team to hate, but

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<v Speaker 2>like when they act the way they act, they're as

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<v Speaker 2>cocky as they are. Dion clearly, you know, says the

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<v Speaker 2>things he says, and then they go out and they

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<v Speaker 2>stink again. Like there's gonna be a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that have satisfaction.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm one of them. But maybe I'm wrong. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you're right, especially because you see the players,

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<v Speaker 3>not only Dicon Sansy, you see people like should or Sanders.

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<v Speaker 3>They clown other people on social media and just act

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<v Speaker 3>like that they're all high and mighty like they're Alabama

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<v Speaker 3>or Georgia or Ohio State, any of those top tier.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they've done nothing to warrant this perception they have

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<v Speaker 2>of themselves. They have but yet fifteen.

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<v Speaker 4>But yet the media.

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<v Speaker 2>Gives it to them non stop to where it's like

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<v Speaker 2>they don't even need to win. They're gonna always be

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<v Speaker 2>talked about.

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<v Speaker 3>And when they had their I guess this cute little

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<v Speaker 3>run where they started off three or four and oh,

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<v Speaker 3>and they they beat the TCU team that ended up

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<v Speaker 3>not being as good as people lead. I mean that

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<v Speaker 3>was I mean, that was college game Day for first.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the team who played in the National Championship game and.

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<v Speaker 3>They ended up being nothing. And people thought Colorado might

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<v Speaker 3>be a top twenty twenty or you know, fifteen twenty

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<v Speaker 3>team after that win. And they they won their next

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<v Speaker 3>few games after that, but once they got into the

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<v Speaker 3>bulk of their schedule, they they proved that they weren't

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<v Speaker 3>worthy of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean they and they also beat Nebraska in

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<v Speaker 2>Nebraska also was pretty mean last year.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, so I uh, I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 3>For Dion Sanders to fail.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean he already has and he you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not just not not big picture, but like I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>last year was a failure.

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<v Speaker 4>And again if if you that's what that's what.

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<v Speaker 2>Irritates me about the Deon Sanders stuff, is that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he was in his first year and he did completely

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<v Speaker 2>overturn a roster top to bottom.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's because he wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>But there'd be a little bit more grace for someone

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<v Speaker 2>who didn't carry themselves as if they're about to take

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<v Speaker 2>over the sport, you know what I mean. Like's that's

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<v Speaker 2>what irks me is that, And I just think it's

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<v Speaker 2>human nature maybe not everybody's the same, because there are

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<v Speaker 2>people who just think, like, oh, everybody's hating jealous dion

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<v Speaker 2>of what he hasn't done anything. But I think if

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<v Speaker 2>you're somebody that is so arrogant and so over the top,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, flashy, braggadocious, and then you fall completely

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<v Speaker 2>flat of what you've claimed you can do and will do,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a level of people enjoying that, like, Wow, you

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<v Speaker 2>got humbled, and I was happy to see it. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if Dean Sanders can be humbled. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure that's possible, but I think that's sort of where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm at with it because it's not like I hate

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<v Speaker 2>him as a guy. It's not like I just like

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<v Speaker 2>I know nothing about Colorado Buffalo football, but like, because

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<v Speaker 2>of how they carry themselves in this, the perception they

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<v Speaker 2>have of themselves, I am someone that has no problem

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<v Speaker 2>admitting when they fail, I will take satisfaction in that.

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<v Speaker 3>When's that Louis Vuitton luggage showing up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah he's got it, and they just you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't win with it. So the reason I bring them

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<v Speaker 2>up is because they did something that I believe is

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<v Speaker 2>is insanely lame and the Arkansas football Twitter account call

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<v Speaker 2>him out for it, and I love it. So Colorado

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<v Speaker 2>put out a video yesterday of Shardoor Sanders, the quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>of course, Dion's son throwing it throw, you know, making

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<v Speaker 2>a play in practice, and it says darts only on

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<v Speaker 2>the tweet, and then it has the little you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the dartboard uh. And then it's his hashtag fall camp

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<v Speaker 2>and it's got the buffalo emoji. In the video, it

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<v Speaker 2>shows him dropping back in the pocket. There's a there's

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<v Speaker 2>a view from behind the pocket, behind the line that

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<v Speaker 2>shows him scrambling a little bit and then he throws

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<v Speaker 2>one up in the air and then it quickly goes

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<v Speaker 2>to a different camera, which is somebody catching a touchdown

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<v Speaker 2>in the end zone. Well, didn't take anybody to do

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<v Speaker 2>any kind of like crazy editing work to determine they

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<v Speaker 2>doctor the footage. The pass caught in the end was

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<v Speaker 2>not the pass that was thrown in the first clip.

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<v Speaker 2>So they doctored a video to make it look like

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<v Speaker 2>he threw a touchdown pass with like you know, legitimate

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<v Speaker 2>pressure to the quarterback and whatnot. And they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the majority of the video is them celebrating after the fact,

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<v Speaker 2>doing all what they do. Right, So Arkansas's football account

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<v Speaker 2>put the same thing out there, darts, only same emoji,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they put the razorback hog emoji.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's what that is.

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<v Speaker 2>And they do the same thing, but they make it

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<v Speaker 2>a little they make it a little more obvious, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like two completely different days of practice. But it's funny

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<v Speaker 2>like that to me is so petty and funny. That's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things that makes college football great. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's even better for me knowing that it's Colorado getting

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<v Speaker 2>clown because that's just that they do clown stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>we go. We'll have about thirty minutes left when we

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<v Speaker 2>come back. Someone's accused me on the text line of

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<v Speaker 2>not talking enough about Louis Basketball's Bahamas trip. That's one

421
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<v Speaker 2>way to get me to talk about it. Are you

422
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<v Speaker 2>questioning if I'm all in on this team or not?

423
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<v Speaker 4>You're wrong.

424
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<v Speaker 2>It's another one of those songs, John, that you told

425
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<v Speaker 2>me as songs like maybe five six years old. I'd

426
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<v Speaker 2>believe you, and it's not.

427
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<v Speaker 3>It's two thousand and nine, right, eight, Okay.

428
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's sixteen years old. So yeah, Kevin Rudolph

429
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<v Speaker 2>had a very brief run. Oh yeah, whatever happened to him.

430
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<v Speaker 3>I don't really know what he's doing, but he ye

431
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<v Speaker 3>like this song yet I made it, and maybe a

432
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<v Speaker 3>couple of others in that he.

433
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<v Speaker 2>Had this song with Lil Wayne and he signed with

434
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<v Speaker 2>Lil Wayne's Young Money, and you know, that was like

435
00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:44.519
<v Speaker 2>the first introduction to somebody within that group that was

436
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<v Speaker 2>more of like, you know, an artist, producer, rock kind

437
00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:51.119
<v Speaker 2>of guy than than you know, the rest of the crew.

438
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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, I.

439
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<v Speaker 2>Don't I mean, I've not heard anything from him since

440
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<v Speaker 2>that song you just played. So shout out to Kevin Rudolph.

441
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<v Speaker 2>I wonder what he's up to today. I'm sure he's

442
00:23:01.720 --> 00:23:04.200
<v Speaker 2>probably still involved in music maybe, but you know, maybe he.

443
00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:07.039
<v Speaker 3>Just travels to the clubs and plays that song and leaves.

444
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it was a pretty big hit, wasn't it was.

445
00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:12.319
<v Speaker 3>You could you couldn't go to a sporting event and

446
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<v Speaker 3>not hear it at that time.

447
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let it rock, all right?

448
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<v Speaker 2>So this texture earlier on the text line se LNN

449
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<v Speaker 2>Federal Credit Union text line five O two six five

450
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<v Speaker 2>three zero seven nineties the number if you guys would

451
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<v Speaker 2>like to text in and join us. But somebody says that,

452
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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I'm trying to scroll through here to

453
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<v Speaker 2>find that it says, Yeah, Nick, what was your biggest

454
00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:32.440
<v Speaker 2>takeaway from the Bahamas? I don't feel like you talked

455
00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:34.359
<v Speaker 2>a whole lot about it. I was expecting you to

456
00:23:34.359 --> 00:23:37.680
<v Speaker 2>come back from vacation and mention more of your takeaways. Well,

457
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<v Speaker 2>I mean I talked about it. I just it was

458
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<v Speaker 2>last week and it was not a real game. And

459
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<v Speaker 2>I do know that there are many people who listen

460
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<v Speaker 2>to this show that that you know, don't didn't watch

461
00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:52.039
<v Speaker 2>and probably aren't. You know, they're just not as as

462
00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:54.359
<v Speaker 2>into a game that's in the summer in the Bahamas

463
00:23:54.359 --> 00:23:56.799
<v Speaker 2>that you could only watch on YouTube. But I also

464
00:23:56.839 --> 00:23:59.759
<v Speaker 2>tried to balance that with throwing in the other side,

465
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<v Speaker 2>which which is, well, Louisville basketball fans are starving for,

466
00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:07.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean starving for you know, this new era and

467
00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:11.160
<v Speaker 2>it's here hadn't started just yet, but like this is

468
00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:14.000
<v Speaker 2>an unusual exception. This is this is the first time

469
00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:15.599
<v Speaker 2>we're going to get a chance to see Pat Kelsey

470
00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:18.319
<v Speaker 2>and this brand new team. So to see that they

471
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<v Speaker 2>had over ten thousand people watching, I think it was

472
00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:23.640
<v Speaker 2>closer to fifteen thousand people watching on the Tuesday night

473
00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:27.519
<v Speaker 2>game and then at noon on a Thursday. I don't

474
00:24:27.559 --> 00:24:29.720
<v Speaker 2>know what it capped at, but they were around six

475
00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:31.720
<v Speaker 2>thousand at one point watching live. I mean that does

476
00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:34.119
<v Speaker 2>tell you there is an appetite for it. So again, look,

477
00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:35.599
<v Speaker 2>I've talked about it a lot Monday. I don't know

478
00:24:35.599 --> 00:24:39.079
<v Speaker 2>if you weren't listening at that point, but you know,

479
00:24:39.160 --> 00:24:42.400
<v Speaker 2>biggest takeaway for me, and I was just talking about

480
00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:45.119
<v Speaker 2>this a little bit earlier with the Invertrees who is

481
00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:49.519
<v Speaker 2>now down the hall producing for mister Minors, but seeing

482
00:24:49.559 --> 00:24:53.920
<v Speaker 2>how unselfish they were, that that really stood out and

483
00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:55.960
<v Speaker 2>stuck with me. I mean obviously the personnel. I mean

484
00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:58.680
<v Speaker 2>I talked a lot about those guys specifically, and I

485
00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:01.200
<v Speaker 2>think when we were talking up these guys and being

486
00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:03.480
<v Speaker 2>really excited about almost teaching every one of them as

487
00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:06.240
<v Speaker 2>far as them being good pieces to really get this

488
00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:08.720
<v Speaker 2>thing turned around in year one, I think what we

489
00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:11.240
<v Speaker 2>saw matched what we were thinking, if that makes sense.

490
00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:13.039
<v Speaker 2>Like I didn't see anything from anybody that made me

491
00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:14.920
<v Speaker 2>feel like, Okay, well we were wrong about this guy.

492
00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:17.039
<v Speaker 4>He's not gonna be able to help us as much.

493
00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:20.000
<v Speaker 2>And the reason you can say that is because it's

494
00:25:20.960 --> 00:25:23.880
<v Speaker 2>a squad that looks really good on paper because of

495
00:25:24.319 --> 00:25:26.960
<v Speaker 2>the amount of good players you have, not because of

496
00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:31.200
<v Speaker 2>two or three All American Superstar future NBA guys. It's

497
00:25:31.240 --> 00:25:34.039
<v Speaker 2>you just got a bunch of really experienced players that

498
00:25:34.119 --> 00:25:37.200
<v Speaker 2>know who they are as players and play within their

499
00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:40.200
<v Speaker 2>game and fit exactly the way Pat Kelsey wants to play.

500
00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:42.680
<v Speaker 2>So you know, what stood out to me is that

501
00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:48.240
<v Speaker 2>they were guys making multiple extra passes in possessions to

502
00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:51.640
<v Speaker 2>get really good shots and that led to good looks

503
00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:54.079
<v Speaker 2>and guys knocking down a lot. I mean, the amount

504
00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:55.400
<v Speaker 2>of assists they had. I don't have the number off

505
00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:56.880
<v Speaker 2>the top of my head, but it was insane. And

506
00:25:56.920 --> 00:26:00.200
<v Speaker 2>it's because they were unselfish. They shared the ball, and

507
00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:03.319
<v Speaker 2>it really, in my opinion, what it did in both games,

508
00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:04.960
<v Speaker 2>more so in the first game than the second game.

509
00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:07.640
<v Speaker 2>But you did start to see it about midway through

510
00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:10.680
<v Speaker 2>that second game against the college from from from Canada.

511
00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:15.039
<v Speaker 2>But when you're whipping it around and you're playing unselfish basketball,

512
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:17.559
<v Speaker 2>making extra pass after extra pass to make sure you

513
00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:20.400
<v Speaker 2>get the best shots you can, that's when you realize

514
00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:23.079
<v Speaker 2>you're playing a team from the Bahamas that might have

515
00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:25.440
<v Speaker 2>some decent players that are playing you know, Division one

516
00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:28.359
<v Speaker 2>college at certain places, but also like they're not a

517
00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:29.279
<v Speaker 2>structured team.

518
00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:29.599
<v Speaker 3>They're not.

519
00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:33.319
<v Speaker 2>They am in practicing for months, right, and that's when

520
00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:35.880
<v Speaker 2>they break down defensively, And you won't see guys do

521
00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:38.279
<v Speaker 2>that as much when you get to like real college games.

522
00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:40.920
<v Speaker 2>But hey, that's how you can fold a team and

523
00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:43.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, name the score if you want to. And

524
00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:44.960
<v Speaker 2>that's what they could have done in that first game.

525
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:48.359
<v Speaker 2>And again, this is this is not something that's I mean,

526
00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:51.640
<v Speaker 2>it's important and it may be corny to some, but

527
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:55.000
<v Speaker 2>it honestly is the first thing that I noticed when

528
00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:57.920
<v Speaker 2>I watch this group play, their energy and their effort

529
00:26:58.839 --> 00:27:02.000
<v Speaker 2>and to see them diving on diving on the floor

530
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:05.960
<v Speaker 2>up thirty you know, just never you know, being physical,

531
00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:09.319
<v Speaker 2>being locked in, having an intensity about him, really just

532
00:27:09.359 --> 00:27:13.799
<v Speaker 2>being locked in. And there's probably other ways to describe

533
00:27:13.799 --> 00:27:17.759
<v Speaker 2>it than just saying locked in, but one way to

534
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:20.359
<v Speaker 2>describe it is that they were.

535
00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:21.680
<v Speaker 4>They were.

536
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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm trying to think a different way to

537
00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:26.359
<v Speaker 2>describe it, because I don't even know if locked in

538
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:28.559
<v Speaker 2>does it justice. But put it this way, the way

539
00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:31.519
<v Speaker 2>you saw Kenny Payne's teams on the floor, no real

540
00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:34.920
<v Speaker 2>attention to detail, the inner just just not me just

541
00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:37.960
<v Speaker 2>almost just flat footed. And it's not that they were

542
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:40.839
<v Speaker 2>just out there completely not trying, but like they were

543
00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:43.960
<v Speaker 2>a reflection of the guy on the sideline that had

544
00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:46.799
<v Speaker 2>no energy, was lifeless, didn't really say a whole lot.

545
00:27:46.759 --> 00:27:49.160
<v Speaker 4>Just just didn't really have much.

546
00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:53.359
<v Speaker 2>And I'd be a liar if I said the first

547
00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:57.000
<v Speaker 2>time I saw a team play for Kenny Payne, I

548
00:27:57.079 --> 00:28:00.680
<v Speaker 2>knew he was going to win what twelve games in

549
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:03.559
<v Speaker 2>two years, because nobody would have ever thought that was possible,

550
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:05.839
<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, you could have said he

551
00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:07.880
<v Speaker 2>was the worst coach ever and still felt like, well,

552
00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:10.039
<v Speaker 2>he's going to win more than twelve in two years.

553
00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:13.119
<v Speaker 2>But when they played Leonora Ryan in that exhibition game,

554
00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:16.240
<v Speaker 2>who we now refer to as Leanne Rhimes and they lost,

555
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:21.160
<v Speaker 2>I remember thinking, Man, these guys their energy, their enthusiasm,

556
00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:25.960
<v Speaker 2>their spirit, it's a reflection of the guy on the sideline,

557
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:28.400
<v Speaker 2>who I feel like lacks all of those things in

558
00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:32.880
<v Speaker 2>a major way. And now we watched a team who

559
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:35.799
<v Speaker 2>I feel like their energy, their enthusiasm, their spirit, their

560
00:28:35.799 --> 00:28:40.440
<v Speaker 2>effort is a reflection of the guy on the sideline

561
00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:42.359
<v Speaker 2>who we love what he brings to the table. In

562
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:45.160
<v Speaker 2>that regard Pat Kelcey, Now again, I'm not saying that

563
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:47.440
<v Speaker 2>means he's going to go out there and you know,

564
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:49.480
<v Speaker 2>win thirty games in year one. I mean, I think

565
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:51.160
<v Speaker 2>Louisville has a chance to be pretty good this year,

566
00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:52.680
<v Speaker 2>and I think the future is bright with Pat Kelsey.

567
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:53.960
<v Speaker 2>He hasn't coached a game here yet, so I'm not

568
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:56.240
<v Speaker 2>going to get ahead of myself. But you know, we're

569
00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:59.079
<v Speaker 2>talking about base level stuff here, right, because you can

570
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:04.240
<v Speaker 2>have energy, effort, enthusiasm, attention to detail, focus and still

571
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:07.079
<v Speaker 2>not be good, right. I mean, that happens, but that's

572
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:13.640
<v Speaker 2>where it starts. So you know, having a team give

573
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:17.200
<v Speaker 2>effort and really you know, be a collective unit right

574
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:21.039
<v Speaker 2>where guys are clapping it up for each other, they're unselfish,

575
00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:23.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, they're up thirty diving.

576
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:25.240
<v Speaker 4>On the floor for loose balls.

577
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, those are things that I will tell you

578
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:32.680
<v Speaker 2>it's hard for me to not have major appreciation for

579
00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:35.559
<v Speaker 2>the little stuff that you just expect to happen when

580
00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:39.359
<v Speaker 2>it didn't happen for two years here. So those are

581
00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:41.240
<v Speaker 2>the things that really step out to me that aren't

582
00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:43.440
<v Speaker 2>really personnel related as far as well, this player is

583
00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:44.720
<v Speaker 2>going to be this good and this player is going

584
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:50.160
<v Speaker 2>to be that good. So look, I I really really

585
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:53.559
<v Speaker 2>think this team can not only just be good for

586
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:55.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, the bounce back year, the you know, the

587
00:29:55.880 --> 00:29:59.680
<v Speaker 2>first year of the Pat Kelsey era, coming off of

588
00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:02.559
<v Speaker 2>two disastrous seasons that none of us ever believed possible.

589
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Like the bar's low. But I think they can be

590
00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:08.880
<v Speaker 2>pretty good. And I'm saying that knowing they've got a

591
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:12.079
<v Speaker 2>pretty tough schedule, and I'm saying that knowing also that

592
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:15.880
<v Speaker 2>the ACC is is not going to be an elite league. Guys,

593
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:18.319
<v Speaker 2>you got Cooper Flagg coming in at Duke and they're

594
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:20.440
<v Speaker 2>always going to have talent. But John Shire's not going

595
00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:22.200
<v Speaker 2>to do what coach k did. And honestly, that's not

596
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:28.119
<v Speaker 2>fair to Shire because nobody's going to I mean, Carolina,

597
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:30.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, they're always going to be talented, and Hubert Davis,

598
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:31.839
<v Speaker 2>I think he's done a solid job. But you know,

599
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:34.599
<v Speaker 2>outside of that, who do you look at in the

600
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:36.839
<v Speaker 2>ACC and you feel like, uh.

601
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:40.319
<v Speaker 4>Oh, they're going to be really really good next year

602
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:41.759
<v Speaker 4>we're in trouble. Don't give me.

603
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:44.960
<v Speaker 2>In c State they might be good, but their final

604
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:48.880
<v Speaker 2>four was ridiculous. I mean, they weren't good last year.

605
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:51.400
<v Speaker 2>They turned it on the Final four and you know,

606
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:55.359
<v Speaker 2>had some March magic, and they bring back some good players,

607
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:57.200
<v Speaker 2>and that two of those guys are from Louisville that

608
00:30:57.240 --> 00:30:59.440
<v Speaker 2>transferred in and Brandon Hunley had field to Mike James.

609
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:02.279
<v Speaker 2>You know, I like, I like Steve Forbes, but I

610
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:03.599
<v Speaker 2>don't know if he's going to be a team that

611
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:05.160
<v Speaker 2>you got to like, oh, what are you gonna do

612
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:07.559
<v Speaker 2>when when you got to play them, they're just too good.

613
00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is kind of a weird way to

614
00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:14.000
<v Speaker 2>go about it. But like, one of the things that

615
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:15.960
<v Speaker 2>has me super excited about year one is I think

616
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:18.519
<v Speaker 2>that the program or the conference that Louisville plays in

617
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:19.440
<v Speaker 2>is not very good.

618
00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:20.799
<v Speaker 4>I mean.

619
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:29.279
<v Speaker 2>Virginia Tech, Pittsburgh, I mean, Notre Dame Miami, I mean

620
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:31.119
<v Speaker 2>Florida State might be the worst team in the league.

621
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:34.759
<v Speaker 2>Clemson they made an Elite eight, right, I don't know

622
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:37.119
<v Speaker 2>how sustainable that is for what's his.

623
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:38.319
<v Speaker 3>Name, Brad Brown?

624
00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:41.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Brownwell is Yeah. I mean like.

625
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Syracuse could Syracuse is the team I think that could

626
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:48.759
<v Speaker 2>be better, like actually be good, not to the level

627
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:51.079
<v Speaker 2>of like, you know, final fours, necessarily as far as

628
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:52.839
<v Speaker 2>that being the expectation, But I do think in Red

629
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:55.640
<v Speaker 2>autry second year, he's got a chance to to kind

630
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<v Speaker 2>of either you know, look like a guy who might

631
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<v Speaker 2>be in over his head who took over as the

632
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:03.960
<v Speaker 2>first time head coach, or somebody who might be able

633
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<v Speaker 2>to actually do something. So yeah, I'm super excited. And

634
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<v Speaker 2>this is a text that came in a little bit

635
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<v Speaker 2>earlier in regards to basketball, and I probably should have

636
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:14.440
<v Speaker 2>got to it earlier because we have a ton of

637
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<v Speaker 2>time right now. But somebody asked if I think that

638
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<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey's going to strategically get guys to visit during

639
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:24.359
<v Speaker 2>some big football games this year.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't think Louisville's home schedule is great

642
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<v Speaker 2>this year as far as the big matchups. In fact,

643
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:37.039
<v Speaker 2>Louisvill's home games this year, you've got two games that

644
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:41.079
<v Speaker 2>are kind of non starters, Austin p Jacksonville State. You

645
00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:48.759
<v Speaker 2>then will play Georgia Tech SMU Miami could be a

646
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<v Speaker 2>big one on the nineteenth of October, and then you

647
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:54.519
<v Speaker 2>play Pittsburgh and home on November twenty third. So the

648
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:56.400
<v Speaker 2>bigger games are going to be away. But that didn't

649
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<v Speaker 2>mean you still can have a great atmosphere, and yes

650
00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:02.000
<v Speaker 2>that is, I mean we could. I don't spend more

651
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:04.119
<v Speaker 2>time on it, because you've already spent more time on

652
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<v Speaker 2>the previous regime.

653
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<v Speaker 4>We don't need to go there.

654
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<v Speaker 2>But last year, I mean, you had a ten win season,

655
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:15.720
<v Speaker 2>sellout games at Ellen N Cardinal Stadium last year, which

656
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<v Speaker 2>doesn't happen often to sellouts and great atmospheres because they

657
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:22.119
<v Speaker 2>were playing some damn good football. They were a top twenty,

658
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:24.920
<v Speaker 2>top fifteen team for the majority of the year, top

659
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:27.920
<v Speaker 2>ten at one point, right, And Kenny Payne, a guy

660
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<v Speaker 2>who's seemingly coaching for his job, didn't recruit any high

661
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:35.799
<v Speaker 2>school kids. Therefore, he didn't have anybody visiting Louisville, did

662
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<v Speaker 2>not have a single visitor from the twenty twenty five

663
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:42.200
<v Speaker 2>recruiting class or sorted the twenty twenty four recruiting class

664
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<v Speaker 2>until you know, he realized, oh, I guess I'd better

665
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:49.400
<v Speaker 2>start recruiting better. And remember the nonsense he pulled with

666
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<v Speaker 2>the visit from Carter Knox.

667
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:54.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that was so dramatic too. Some of this

668
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<v Speaker 3>stuff doesn't seem like it really happened. Isn't it funny

669
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<v Speaker 3>how it feels like an alternate reacity.

670
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<v Speaker 2>It does because it just it almost you know, even

671
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:03.839
<v Speaker 2>though it's over and we know it happened, it doesn't

672
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:07.000
<v Speaker 2>seem like some of these things are real. Like when

673
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:12.280
<v Speaker 2>he blamed Tyler Johnson's tights, I mean, and Mike Woodson

674
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:14.400
<v Speaker 2>tricked him because he went zone like what is what was?

675
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

676
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:18.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my gosh.

677
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<v Speaker 4>But it's over. It's over, and I'm happy about that.

678
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<v Speaker 4>All right, quick break, we'll come back. Wrap this thing up.

679
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<v Speaker 2>It's coffee and company, I feel about Thornton's on Sports

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<v Speaker 2>Talk seven ninety. All right, with very little time left,

681
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<v Speaker 2>let's hit the text line this Texas. Nick, when you

682
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<v Speaker 2>mentioned VHH and Mike James at NC State, it reminded

683
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<v Speaker 2>me of how many former players are going to be

684
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<v Speaker 2>playing elsewhere next year. Who do you think has the

685
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:45.679
<v Speaker 2>best season as far as like best numbers? I think

686
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:49.519
<v Speaker 2>it'll be close. I think, well, put it this way,

687
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:55.039
<v Speaker 2>I think as far as numbers, I actually think Curtis

688
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Williams Junior could have a big season at Georgetown for

689
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:02.719
<v Speaker 2>Fred Cooley. But I don't know if if you know

690
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:04.039
<v Speaker 2>they're going to be any good or not. I mean,

691
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:04.960
<v Speaker 2>they were really really.

692
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<v Speaker 4>Bad last year.

693
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:07.400
<v Speaker 2>I always thought Curtis Williams Junior had a lot of talent,

694
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:11.360
<v Speaker 2>silky smooth offensive player, good kid too from what I understand,

695
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:13.639
<v Speaker 2>and just you know, he he kind of lost his

696
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:15.400
<v Speaker 2>confidence a little bit, as you could expect. I mean,

697
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:18.679
<v Speaker 2>these guys went through a season as far as just

698
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:21.639
<v Speaker 2>losses and struggle that you know, they probably have never

699
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:23.840
<v Speaker 2>gone through at any point in their life as basketball players.

700
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:26.920
<v Speaker 2>So Mike James and Brenda hilly had Field, I think

701
00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:28.760
<v Speaker 2>those could be two important guys for KEATS, but I

702
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:30.719
<v Speaker 2>don't know if they'll have, Like you know, I don't

703
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<v Speaker 2>know if they'll be all conference type players there.

704
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<v Speaker 4>Brandon could be.

705
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:38.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's got all the tools and he really

706
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:41.960
<v Speaker 2>played well and showed why he was at one point

707
00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:44.920
<v Speaker 2>a top ten player at times last year, just you know,

708
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:47.920
<v Speaker 2>unfortunately came in a lot of losing efforts. So he's

709
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<v Speaker 2>probably the most talented guy that has left. Tyler Johnson

710
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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be shocked if he really blends in well with

711
00:35:56.800 --> 00:35:58.280
<v Speaker 2>what they've got going on at Wake Forest. I know

712
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:01.559
<v Speaker 2>they brought Hunter Salas back, and him playing alongside Hunter

713
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:03.519
<v Speaker 2>Salas could be could be a pretty good duo in

714
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:07.719
<v Speaker 2>the ACC and then I've got somewhat of a surprise

715
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:14.239
<v Speaker 2>answer for you because he's now at Grand Canyon, which

716
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:15.880
<v Speaker 2>means he's not going to get a whole lot of attention.

717
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:18.480
<v Speaker 2>There's not going to be a lot of games on TV,

718
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:23.239
<v Speaker 2>but it's a lower level and he's a giant Dennis Evans, like,

719
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:26.880
<v Speaker 2>I think Dennis Evans could end up having a pretty

720
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:28.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, not a He's not gonna be an All

721
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:30.960
<v Speaker 2>American or anything like that, but I feel like he

722
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:33.599
<v Speaker 2>may be somebody you realize, oh wow, this guy's leading

723
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:40.480
<v Speaker 2>the country in block shots. So who am I forgetting? Oh,

724
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:44.199
<v Speaker 2>Scott Clark, you know at UCLA. I wouldn't be shocked

725
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:46.559
<v Speaker 2>if he's, you know, a guy that's got a you know,

726
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:48.800
<v Speaker 2>decent role. But I don't know if he'll be. You know,

727
00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:53.679
<v Speaker 2>Louisville had talented players last year that you know, clearly

728
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:56.760
<v Speaker 2>were better than their record. I mean they Kenny played

729
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:00.800
<v Speaker 2>nothing but Ford five star players against Kentucky Wesley in

730
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:03.280
<v Speaker 2>an exhibition game and lost. So and they had they

731
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:05.840
<v Speaker 2>had talent. But trust me, I don't think I ever

732
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.119
<v Speaker 2>made it sound as if they had a roster that

733
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:09.840
<v Speaker 2>if you know, they had a good coach, they'd be

734
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:12.039
<v Speaker 2>a four seed in the tournament. No, but I mean

735
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:19.199
<v Speaker 2>they just were unexcusably bad. Who else am I forgetting? Oh,

736
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:22.639
<v Speaker 2>this is one of those guys that I wouldn't be

737
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:26.199
<v Speaker 2>shocked if, like he ends up maybe having a good

738
00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:29.400
<v Speaker 2>like you'll you'll see him pretty regularly, and I'm completely

739
00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:30.159
<v Speaker 2>forgetting his name.

740
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:30.800
<v Speaker 4>He transferred to.

741
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Illinois, Trey White, Yeah, Tray White, because he I mean,

742
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:39.880
<v Speaker 2>he's never lacked talent. He just was inconsistent and you know,

743
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:43.840
<v Speaker 2>had no interest in playing defense and didn't even hide it.

744
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:47.639
<v Speaker 2>So you know he's got talent. He's a six seven wing,

745
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:51.239
<v Speaker 2>good athlete, good size, So you know, maybe him playing

746
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:54.320
<v Speaker 2>alongside good talent at Illinois and a good coach in

747
00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Brad Underwood, maybe he ends up being pretty good.

748
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<v Speaker 4>So but none of that matters.

749
00:37:57.719 --> 00:37:59.599
<v Speaker 2>Again, you know, these guys left for for good reason,

750
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:02.320
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I love this current level team that

751
00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:05.360
<v Speaker 2>we have that Pat Kelsey and his staff is put together.

752
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:07.440
<v Speaker 2>All right, we're out of time. We will talk to

753
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<v Speaker 2>you tomorrow, that is, if you join us, And why

754
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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't you, I mean, come on three o'clock right here

755
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<v Speaker 2>on Sports Talk seven ninety