Speaker 1: Bill Cunning into Great America and welcome this Monday afternoon,
Speaker 1: the Tri State Bill A basking in the glory of
Speaker 1: the Bengals from last night. They didn't look good, but
Speaker 1: they won. Whenever you go on the road in the
Speaker 1: NFL and win by double digits, no matter what happens,
Speaker 1: that's a good night. Bengals back outed on Sunday with
Speaker 1: the Brownies, and we'll see what happens with their quarterback
Speaker 1: situation Deshaun Watson, what he's going to start or not.
Speaker 1: But for some reason, Moeger tells me that of the
Speaker 1: last eight games with the Brownies, the Bengals have won two.
Speaker 1: So somehow the Bengals find a way to lose. And
Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens on Sunday. But until then,
Speaker 1: the town hall meetings are going on. Commercials are like crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm told by the high Senate candidates that the the DNC,
Speaker 1: mainly in the RNZ, is going to spend close to
Speaker 1: five hundred million dollars in the race with shared brown
Speaker 1: five hundred million dollars in Bernie Marino I said five
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars for one Senate seat, basically lying in
Speaker 1: the American people because lives work more than the truth.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, joining you and I now is Chris Smitherman.
Speaker 1: He's a black man. He's being pandered to, he's being
Speaker 1: catered to, he's in the barbershop, he's not voting the
Speaker 1: right way, and the Democratic Party wants to know why.
Speaker 1: Chris Smitherman. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. Chris Smitherman,
Speaker 1: how are you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing good? How are you doing? You know this
Speaker 2: is not a new story bill that the Democratic Party
Speaker 2: you know, and President Lyndon Johnson kind of set it up,
Speaker 2: has moved to this mentality that I'll just vote Democratic
Speaker 2: and not have all of the information. So you know
Speaker 2: this narrative that there is before you even ask me
Speaker 2: the first question that there is this black person, yeah,
Speaker 2: who speaks for the black community or the African American
Speaker 2: community is just a third. The African American community is
Speaker 2: not monolithic. We are as diverse as any other community.
Speaker 2: And leaders out here who believe that they can tell
Speaker 2: African American men how to think, how to vote, what
Speaker 2: their set of priorities should be as Americans are just misinformed.
Speaker 2: And that is what you're seeing happen right now, in
Speaker 2: this election.
Speaker 1: And Chris, I think you're wrong, completely wrong, because white
Speaker 1: men have white leaders. I can't identify who that is.
Speaker 1: Hispanic men have Hispanic leaders. Who's that Asian individuals persons
Speaker 1: have asianly, I'm sure they're out there. And so there's
Speaker 1: one group in America that has to be told what
Speaker 1: to do, and those are especially black men and black
Speaker 1: women especially. And so when Barack Hussein Obama, the Black Messiah,
Speaker 1: arises from his homes either in Martha's Vineyard, Washington, DC, Chicago,
Speaker 1: or Hawaii, and the media acts as if, Okay, we
Speaker 1: finally have the great Black Jesus among us. You better
Speaker 1: know your role, shut your men house both the way
Speaker 1: he tells you to vote, and that normally works. Done
Speaker 1: it because I know we have a bunch of white leaders,
Speaker 1: and I get subliminal messages all the time from white
Speaker 1: leaders telling me what to do because I can't figure
Speaker 1: it out myself. And so, as a black man, aren't
Speaker 1: you going to tow the company line and do what
Speaker 1: you're told, know your role and shut your mouth.
Speaker 2: President Barack Obama and first Lady Michelle Obama served our
Speaker 2: country for eight years, but there isn't this person who
Speaker 2: speaks for Black Americans. And so let me be clear
Speaker 2: for you, Bill, what the issues are and what I think.
Speaker 2: And I don't speak for African Americans, and I don't
Speaker 2: speak for Black Americans. I speak for myself. I will
Speaker 2: tell you kind of what I'm hearing. People are concerned
Speaker 2: about the economy. Black men are concerned about their gas prices,
Speaker 2: that their fuel, They're concerned about their rent, They're concerned
Speaker 2: about food prices. Does this sound familiar. They're concerned about
Speaker 2: the border because they're concerned about the safety of their daughters.
Speaker 2: Meaning President former President Barack Obama has two beautiful daughters
Speaker 2: who are protected every day by the Secret Service. That
Speaker 2: is not true for most African American families out here,
Speaker 2: where their children have to get up every day, go
Speaker 2: to a bus stop, and some of them are worried
Speaker 2: about gunshots in their community. They don't have the Secret
Speaker 2: Service flanking them every day. That's part of the disconnect
Speaker 2: that I'm sharing with you. The everyday African American man
Speaker 2: who's in a barbershop or who's running their own business,
Speaker 2: whether it's a technology company, whether it's a construction company,
Speaker 2: they're worried about the same things that you're worried about
Speaker 2: brother and so this notion to wake up and say,
Speaker 2: I now have to vote for somebody based on the
Speaker 2: pigmentation of their skin, and you want me to throw
Speaker 2: out all of my economic concerns. I'm trying to wake
Speaker 2: up every day. I want to make sure I can
Speaker 2: feed my wife. I want to make sure that I
Speaker 2: can feed my children. Those are the issues that bread
Speaker 2: and butter, issues that African American men are thinking about
Speaker 2: at the highest level, at the highest intellectual level. And
Speaker 2: we don't appreciate anybody trying to take us into this.
Speaker 2: You've got to vote for somebody based on the pigment
Speaker 2: of their skin. It is more of the content of
Speaker 2: their character. And I want to understand what the public
Speaker 2: policies are of all the candidates that are running. That's
Speaker 2: what brothers are really talking about. Brothers who are getting
Speaker 2: up every day, going to work, who are paying their bills.
Speaker 2: This notion that brothers aren't handling their business. Members of
Speaker 2: Alpha Phi Alpha, which I'm a member of. Alpha Fai Alpha,
Speaker 2: are ladies of akas or Delta Stigma. Theydes Beta are
Speaker 2: those African American men and women who are attending historically
Speaker 2: black colleges and universities. By the way, just as a fact,
Speaker 2: it makes people uncomfortable. It was former President Trump that
Speaker 2: ultimately made funding to historically black colleges and universities permanent.
Speaker 3: Keep that walk, President Clinton, keep that question.
Speaker 2: It wasn't President Barack Obama. It was former President Trump
Speaker 2: who did that for historically black college university.
Speaker 3: Don't say that. Don't say that, please, That's a good
Speaker 3: thing on the Trump side. You can't do it.
Speaker 1: When I'm watching the last week or two of Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: The whole point of her campaign, Chris Mitherman is a
Speaker 1: new way forward. Let's take the best and make it better,
Speaker 1: find a way to stay together. That's the whole part.
Speaker 1: So the last several interviews she's given she has said, basically,
Speaker 1: I can't think of one thing I do differently the
Speaker 1: past four years. So when she comes off that interview
Speaker 1: with Whoopi Goldberg, who's a clown at the view, and
Speaker 1: her senior campaign staff says, can we go into this rip,
Speaker 1: can we talk with you for a moment, Madam Weisman.
Speaker 1: They go in the room, according to Axios, and they
Speaker 1: said to her, what in the hell are you doing?
Speaker 1: The whole point of this campaign is a new way forward,
Speaker 1: a new path How can you say you wouldn't do
Speaker 1: anything different when we're spending a billion dollars telling people
Speaker 1: that we have a new way forward, and you're saying
Speaker 1: there's nothing we can do differently.
Speaker 3: How in the hell does that work?
Speaker 1: And so she mumbles around and says, well, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I just wasn't thinking at the moment. Then two more
Speaker 1: interviews in the next two days she says exactly the
Speaker 1: same thing with cold Bear drinking the beer. Otherwise, she says, basically,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do anything different. So they spend a billion
Speaker 1: dollars telling this is a new path forward, and the
Speaker 1: messenger the candidate can't think on her feet and say, well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the best to make it better with
Speaker 1: Joe Biden, with the batado bada ding bata bang, you
Speaker 1: vote for me, we're gonna do any brand new bada doo.
Speaker 3: Butta doo bada bang.
Speaker 1: It's all a new path forward, it's a new way forward,
Speaker 1: and says she comes off the Colbert interview and according
Speaker 1: to Axios, well now, madam Vice President, what the hell
Speaker 1: are you doing? We just told you not to say that.
Speaker 1: Everything's fine because seventy percent of American people and eighty
Speaker 1: percent of Black folks, things aren't very good. Why do
Speaker 1: you keep saying things aren't are pretty good when they're not?
Speaker 1: And why do you say on these interviews that there's
Speaker 1: nothing I would have done differently when we have a
Speaker 1: new path forward and said, well, I'm sorry about that,
Speaker 1: I'll do better the next time. That's the candidate they
Speaker 1: put out who didn't get one percent of the vote
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, who isn't available for interviews like with
Speaker 1: Time magazine.
Speaker 3: How in the hell is not going to work?
Speaker 1: And the answer is the media coverage and the machine
Speaker 1: has got to pull you over the finish line because
Speaker 1: you can't do it. Can you smell what I'm cooking?
Speaker 1: And I think there's a question in there, would you
Speaker 1: please answer it?
Speaker 2: Well, look, African American men. Back to the public policy.
Speaker 2: And again, I'm not speaking for everywhere, not monolithic, but
Speaker 2: those that I speak to in my circle. You know
Speaker 2: that I'm a financial planner. I have access to people
Speaker 2: who have resources. They're talking and those who don't. They're
Speaker 2: talking about public school education. How can I get my
Speaker 2: child to get a good education because it's still the
Speaker 2: number one way into the middle class. And so any
Speaker 2: candidate out there who's not talking about that is going
Speaker 2: to have a problem. He acts, and most of these
Speaker 2: candidates act like we don't we as African American men,
Speaker 2: can't see what happened with FEMA, as if we don't
Speaker 2: have families that are in North Carolina or in Georgia,
Speaker 2: are in Florida who just lost their house, who just
Speaker 2: lost their loved one. And FEMA has been on the sidelines,
Speaker 2: by the way, instead of pushing over a billion dollars
Speaker 2: for illegal people who are coming over the border. And
Speaker 2: we can see that you're prioritizing everybody else but Americans.
Speaker 2: We see that you're putting people up in hotels in
Speaker 2: New York, or in Atlanta, or in Chicago, and you
Speaker 2: don't think that that impacts us as African American men.
Speaker 2: And so that's what they're missing. They're not understanding that
Speaker 2: African American men and black men, I want to be
Speaker 2: clear here, are very sophisticated. We understand what's happening around us,
Speaker 2: and you just can't walk in and say, hey, brother,
Speaker 2: do what I tell you to do. Those days are over, Bill,
Speaker 2: and that's the frustration the Democratic plantation is breaking down,
Speaker 2: and people are looking for answers because they're trying to
Speaker 2: pay their rent. Brother, they're trying to buy food, they're
Speaker 2: trying to put gas in their car, and they just
Speaker 2: want to candidate that will prioritize what they care about
Speaker 2: all this other crap that they're talking about. For example,
Speaker 2: they want to push abortion, abortion, abortion right. Well, that
Speaker 2: might work in some campaigns, but when people are hurting
Speaker 2: the way they're hurting, like they're saying in North Carolina,
Speaker 2: I just lost everything. I lost my dog, my house,
Speaker 2: all my belongings in Georgia and in Florida, and you're
Speaker 2: only going to give me seven hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 2: But I can see that you're sending money to Lebanon,
Speaker 2: saying you want to shore up what's happening in Lebanon,
Speaker 2: but you can't or what's happening right here in America.
Speaker 2: I'm letting you know, Bill, that's the problem with the
Speaker 2: comment of hey, brother, I need you to get lined
Speaker 2: up and follow me on the pigmentation and not the
Speaker 2: public policy.
Speaker 3: We began with this idea.
Speaker 1: Seemingly every every racial group in America doesn't need a leader.
Speaker 1: If I ask Tony Benner, who's the white leader, who's
Speaker 1: the big dog, who's coming out of the pound, who's barking,
Speaker 1: who's snarly, who's nasty? And I'm thinking, well, white leaders,
Speaker 1: I don't think we have one. If I speak to
Speaker 1: my Hispanic friends, I said, who's your who's your big
Speaker 1: brown leader? That is that that is unpaid? Well, I
Speaker 1: don't have one. If you talk to Asians, well I don't.
Speaker 1: They talked to black folks. The media tells you who
Speaker 1: let the dog out, and that is Barack Hussein Obama
Speaker 1: is telling you, and he's talking that language, that lingo
Speaker 1: from the street. Obama's from the street with his homes
Speaker 1: in Hawaii on the ocean. He's telling black I'm back.
Speaker 1: The big dog is out. They thought that would be
Speaker 1: a bump about a week ago. It didn't happen. And
Speaker 1: it didn't happen because Black folks have figured out the
Speaker 1: plan put together by LBJ keeps them in slavery instead
Speaker 1: of freedom. And right now, if you've got to send
Speaker 1: your kid to a public school in Cincinnati or Chicago
Speaker 1: or Dayton, the last place you want to do is
Speaker 1: to the Dayton public schools or the CPS, because more
Speaker 1: than half the kids can't read, don't understand English, they
Speaker 1: can't compute mathematically, they're not ready for school. Given the choice,
Speaker 1: most black folks would not send their kids to CPS.
Speaker 1: They send their kid to a private school somewhere or
Speaker 1: to some monassory school. And so folks are figuring out
Speaker 1: in large numbers that the lives of the left have
Speaker 1: been told for more than half a century, and.
Speaker 3: They don't work.
Speaker 1: Do you think more and more black folks think like you,
Speaker 1: or more and more black folks think like Whoopi Goldberg.
Speaker 2: I think. First, let me say to you that, as
Speaker 2: you know, I respect the accomplishment of President Barack Obama, period,
Speaker 2: just like I respect the accomplishments of Eli Munk or
Speaker 2: are Tim Cook, or Bill Gates or Warren Buffet. There
Speaker 2: are people that have made tremendous contributions to our society. However,
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that you become the spokesperson for an
Speaker 2: entire race of people. That's what you and I are
Speaker 2: talking about, and I'm sharing with you that many times
Speaker 2: I have more in common with my apple lating brothers
Speaker 2: and sisters than I do to people who have wealth
Speaker 2: and who can buy a twelve million dollar crib or
Speaker 2: lived somewhere in Hawaii, as you're describing, meaning the economics
Speaker 2: of things matter, and so what I'm trying to articulate
Speaker 2: to our community, it is okay for us to be
Speaker 2: free thinkers. It's okay for us to vote for a
Speaker 2: variety of keenicts. It's okay for us to vote for Democrats, Republicans, independence, libertarians.
Speaker 2: It's okay. That's where we're headed in our world. And
Speaker 2: what Barack Obama, President Barack Obama is seeing right now, Bill,
Speaker 2: the polls aren't looking good. That African American men are
Speaker 2: questioning their existence financially, and they're saying, there has to
Speaker 2: be a better way for my family. I cannot afford
Speaker 2: to pay six dollars for diesel. I drive a truck
Speaker 2: out here, just like my white brother drives a truck,
Speaker 2: and it's cost to me a thousand dollars to fill
Speaker 2: it up. I've got to get a break here, and
Speaker 2: I'm looking for the candidate that can provide that public policy.
Speaker 2: I think the interview tomorrow that we talked about, right,
Speaker 2: I think that that might be a first step. If
Speaker 2: she's probed on what she's going to do the Democrat all.
Speaker 2: All these things are important, brothers, but there isn't a
Speaker 2: person who speaks for African American people. I don't care
Speaker 2: if you African American or white. Are you're listening to
Speaker 2: our interviews. I don't think anybody can walk away from
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Say what Smithlman said isn't true. There
Speaker 2: isn't a spokesperson for African Americans. And we have the
Speaker 2: right to vote for whoever we want to vote for now.
Speaker 1: Like Joe Biden said a few years ago in twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, if you don't vote for me, you ain't black.
Speaker 1: I'm taking away your color. I'm taking away your pigmentation.
Speaker 1: Know your role, shut your mouth. Vote Democratic. We're gonna
Speaker 1: take care of you. You've seen the results out the
Speaker 1: past fifty years. And I would say the Planned PARENTO
Speaker 1: always puts their facilities in the Black community. The number
Speaker 1: one race killed healthy babies inside the bodies of healthy
Speaker 1: mothers are in the Black community. It's called abortion. Black
Speaker 1: babies constitute about fifty percent of the deaths inside the womb,
Speaker 1: and the white babies are about twelve percent. Most are
Speaker 1: persons of color that are killed in the womb. And
Speaker 1: that's a sacrament according to the Democrat Party or Christopher,
Speaker 1: I got to run.
Speaker 3: But we'll see what happens down the road.
Speaker 1: But you gotta know, you gotta tell Eric Kurdy and
Speaker 1: Lincoln b Ware and Box Miller you're black and you
Speaker 1: ain't black.
Speaker 3: If you don't vote for Kamala Harris, you ain't willing.
Speaker 2: Let me give you. Let me give you this good news.
Speaker 2: My son Christopher had his first child yesterday. I'm a grandfather. Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm so proud of him. Who went on October the thirteenth,
Speaker 2: Christopher Edward Charles Smitherman the third And if people want
Speaker 2: to follow me to get my perspective, they can do
Speaker 2: it on x at vote Smitherman. So thank you for
Speaker 2: allowing me to do those two things. And I just
Speaker 2: want to highlight that positive part of my own life
Speaker 2: that I became a grandfather yesterday.
Speaker 1: You're getting old, no question about that, but know your role.
Speaker 1: Shut your mouth. You don't vote for Democrats, you ain't black.
Speaker 1: I don't know what color you are, but you ain't black.
Speaker 1: Chris Smitherman, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Chris, Thank you brother. Let's continue with more
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