Speaker 1: All right, everybody, welcome back. This is part two of
our podcast on Dumb and Dummer Versus. There's something about
Mary Doe.
Speaker 2: How you doing.
Speaker 1: I know we don't have any intro music right here?
Do we need to turn on the radio or something?
Speaker 2: Radio? I don't think so you ready?
Speaker 1: Mock yeah yeah bird Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, mocking Birdoca? Why not? Why not? So?
Speaker 1: I want to talk just briefly at a personal level
about the locations of this movie. For me, this movie
holds such a special place in my heart, Like I
have been to some of the locations where this was shot.
This movie was not shot in Aspen. People think it
was an Aspen. It wasn't shot in Aspen. Aspen wanted
too much money. This movie was shot in Breckenridge.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've been to Breckenridge too. There was a there's
a bank that had this very large blow up duck
in front of it the first day that we were there,
and then the second day we were there, I'm driving
in a car with all of my children in it,
and my wife goes, hey, where the giant balloon go?
And I go, yeah, what the duck? A lot of
trouble for that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So This was shot in breck Ridge and
so I've been to some of those spots and that's
pretty cool. The skiing was shot at Copper Mountain Resort,
which I'm skied there. It's really cool. But the hotel
where they pull up in the Lamborghini and they get
out and the we landed on the moon seen in
the in the bar yep. That was shot at the
Stanley Hotel in Essa's Park Overlook. It is the Overlook. Yes,
it's called the Danbury and Dumb and Dummer. It's called
the Overlook in the movie The Shining, right, and it's
actually called it's called the Stanley Hotel in Essa's Park, right.
But if you are familiar with Stephen King's movie The Shining,
that is the hotel this is based on. So while
they were filming there, I'll get to my story here
in a second. While they're shooting scene at the Stanley Hotel,
Jim Carrey requests room two three seven, which is the
haunted room from Stephen King's The Shining, Yes, or is
it the lady in the back. It's the naked lady
in the bathb He checked in. He was in the
room for three hours and when he came out. He's like,
I am not going back in there, and he immediately
checked out and said he would not go back in
the room and would not tell anybody why.
Speaker 2: Still don't know.
Speaker 1: Still don't know. Now you know, Jim Carrey, you mean,
who knows? It could be just for a laugh. The
other story I was going to tell about Stanley, Jeff
Daniels had no idea there was this undercurrent romance going
on with Lauren Holly and Jim Carrey, who was because
it's married.
Speaker 2: Still married at the time, Bill Mary at.
Speaker 1: The time, and his wife was very bitter about that incident.
Jeff Daniels said he knew that Lauren Holly sweet was
across from his and when he got up one morning
to get the newspaper or whatever get some breakfast, he
saw the door open across from his and Jim came
out of it like that's interesting. Well see you later. Ooh.
But anyway, I went to the Stanley this summer. They
open it up and you can kind of go in
there and take tours or whatever. Everybody else was interested
in the Shining, and I was like, I like the Shining.
I want to talk dumb and dumber, So I went
to the bartender and I said, hey, man, can you
kind of walk me around and tell me everybody else
is interested in the shining. I want to know about
Dumb and Dummer. And he's like, well, this is different
and this has changed a little bit, but this is
where they sat and this is where it happened. And
he showed me. And then of course they have the
poster on the walls. You know, we landed on the
Moon poster and so it's all there. You can go
visit it. The part where the Lamborghini pulls up, that's
not a drive, it's like a small area. It's very small.
So like the Lamborghini pulled up like fifteen feet, it's
not very big.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the scene with the man in the moon, Yes,
that line was completely improvised by Jim Carrey. Like, no,
we were landed on the moon. Okay, So where they
out in Colorado. They didn't know exactly how they were
going to do all the ski scenes, and then they
got like a foot and a half of snow the
day before they started shooting. Now, this was their first
day of shooting, and so the person who was in
charge of scheduling was kind to them and didn't didn't
set very much up for that first day of shooting,
but they got it all done. They still had daylight left,
and so they said, let's just do some improv scenes
and see what happens. The scene between Jeff Daniels and
Mary with the snowball fight was a complete let's just
let's give it a try. And they went to Jeff
Daniels and they're like, okay, well we want you to
do She's going to playfully toss a snowball and you're
going to hit her as hard as you can in
the face with us. He's like, why, and they said,
because he goes but he would know that that's going
to hurt her. He's like, but he's in love with her,
why would he do that? And they said, well, in
Mice of Men, Lenny is in love with the rabbits,
but he still strangles that as he's loving on them
so hard. He just doesn't know how to play. It's like,
it's either we're doing normal things or we're in a
full on competition. And so that whole scene where he
hits her in the face, where he shoves her face
in the snow, and it ends up somehow being romantic
at the end, I'm not even sure how. He's just
laughing at himself and she starts laughing. That was a
complete let's just see what happens kind of scene.
Speaker 1: That scene is so funny when she hands him the
carrot and the two pieces of coal for an eyes
and a nose presumably, and he makes a not an
eye and a nose, right, eyes and nose. My friend's
dad when we saw it, he I thought he was
gonna split his pants. He was laughing so hard at
that scene. Incidentally, the song playing during that montage is
a song called if you don't Love Me, I'll kill
Myself Yes, by a guy named Pete Drouge. Yep, Okay,
Pete Drouge. If you'll remember back to our Nirvana Pearl
Jam episodes from earlier, about a year ago, Pete Druge
worked at a pizza place with Mike McCready.
Speaker 2: The big guitarist for Pearl Jam.
Speaker 1: How about that.
Speaker 2: Before either one of them were in any way famous
at all. Let's talk about the interest scenes a little bit. Okay,
we've established that you've you've got to fall in love
with these characters religious, Let's just talk about a few
interesting bits. Okay, So the very first time that you
see Lloyd Christmas, he's awkwardly sticking his head out of
a limo talking to a lady with an Austrian accent.
So funny.
Speaker 1: He comes up and there's a beautiful woman. He rolls
down his window and says, excuse me, key, tell me
how to get to the medical school. My driver's a
bit lost and I'm about to give a presentation of
twenty minutes. And she speaks in an Austrian accent, and
he says, that's a beautiful accent, New Jersey. She goes Austria. Well,
good day, mate, let's throw another shrimp on the Bobby.
Speaker 2: So at the time that the Fairly brothers were in
California being writers, what they did for money was Bobby
waited tables and drove a limo. All right, So he's
got the inside scoop on that. Now, Then you have
later on when he's driving Mary to the airport. Yes,
he turns around and is talking to her and goes
through the light and there's a sound of a car
wreck and you see an explosion. I have no I mean,
on their budget, I don't know how they managed to
make that explosion happen, but solid hysterical scene. But one
of their big influences who they said they wanted to
be like when they arrived in Hollywood were the Zucker Brothers.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, from our.
Speaker 2: Airplane episode in case you've you don't know that one
when they arrive at the airport. You hear the guy saying,
the white zone is loading and unloading. Only I'm writing
this down because there's got to And sure enough I
found out they're big fans of the Zucker.
Speaker 1: That is awesome. Yeah, how about a hug.
Speaker 2: It's I'm a little driver. And he falls As the
guy's walking over to the window to watch him fall out,
Caleb's like, he's laughing. I can see him laughing. I'm like,
how could you not if you know what's about to happen,
how could you not be laughing at that.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of scenes where you can see the
actors about to lose it. Yeah, when they're at the
bar at the Stanley and Jim Carrey is sitting there
and the the other girl her name is Beth Jordan, yes,
and she's driving him crazy.
Speaker 2: I said to myself, run back, run for your life
before this man kills you both? Then do you know
what the kluts? Did? You know? And I don't care.
I'm going to tell you he came home one night,
dead drunk and decided he wanted to fix the sink.
I couldn't believe him anyway, Let's talk about you. How
can you're here?
Speaker 1: Bartender?
Speaker 2: Bartender? Yeah, I have a friend. I have a friend
from high school, Sarah Banister. She commented on one of
our Dumb and Dumber posts that when she starts talking
too much, her husband and we'll just yell bartender wherever
they might be.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 2: So you got a great setup, and there's something about
Mary and so much of it depends upon the actor
they have playing the dad.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So the Fairly brothers were like, okay, they got this
guy Keith David to play the stepdad.
Speaker 1: That's right, mister stepdad.
Speaker 2: Right. And he immediately opens the door and starts busting
his balls. What's the problem. Tutes go with her boyfriend Woogie,
and they said that this is exactly what their dad
would do to their sister's dates. Whenever those dates would
show up, he would find any way he couldn't bust
their balls. And he does a fantastic, and he he
improvises throughout the introductory scene and he is hilarious.
Speaker 1: He's hilarious when he brings the baseball in and touches
Warren's ear and Warren goes crazy and starts punching him
and then throws him to the ground. His dad's like,
what's wrong with you? And then they started getting into this,
Are you the only me in my own house?
Speaker 2: Yes, that's all he erupt.
Speaker 1: Gosh.
Speaker 2: And so that scene, you know, they said, do you
want to have a stuntman come in because it was
it's a.
Speaker 1: Pretty like rose him.
Speaker 2: He chunks him hard and Ben Steelers like, nope, I'll
do it.
Speaker 1: Let's let's just go.
Speaker 2: Let's just let me do it. Oh okay. And so
then after the infamous zipper scene, by the way, that
zipper that when you see that shot, you.
Speaker 1: Know, the shot, the shot, the money shot, the money shot.
Speaker 2: When you see that shot that actually was like three
feet tall. It's a much bigger prosthetic and zipper than
you would expect. And the zipper actually broke in the
midst of shooting and they had to take it to
a tailor say can you fix this? He fixed it.
You know.
Speaker 1: I just can't imagine driving up to a Taylor and
dropping it off.
Speaker 2: Can you fix me? What? Do you need a zipper?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no problem? What? Yes, Keith David does a great
job when he's in the bathroom with Ted and he says,
let's see what we got here, and he takes out
his glasses to look at his cross. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: And then we got him water and they're taking him.
They're taking him in the gurney. Yes, they get him
to the ambulance and they drop him. That was not scripted.
That just happened. Like you, if you watch the movie,
there's this little cut whenever after they drop him, and
then they're talking to him again, cuts to Mary for
a second. They stopped filming after they dropped him. They like,
are you okay? And he's like, yeah, just go with it,
And so they started filming right back again. Hysterical. Yeah,
accidental drop Love it, love it.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about one of the funniest scenes
from There's Something about Mary. Okay, he picks up a hitchhiker. Okay,
Ted picks up a hitchhark. Ted's a good guy. We've
already established Ted is a nice guy. Yep, and he
just needed a little companionship, a little company. As he's
traveling across the country, picks up a hitchharker. Un Ted
hitchhiker has a dead body in a bag and is
a serial killer and he's on this killing spree. So
they pull over this rest stop, which I've already established
that rest off is a place where homosexuals hang out.
And as he's going to go pee in the woods,
he stumbles over somebody, yes, and then the police turn
on the lights, and then there's people everywhere. Right, there's
guys doing who knows what in the woods, right, and
Ted's like, I was just going to pee, and they're
all like, yeah, me too, just pee yea. But all
those guys are members of the crew from something about Mary.
Speaker 2: So that suggestion that rest stops are a place for homosexuals, yes,
that is made by the psychiatrist after he tells the story, right,
and then times up, well, you know he's he's like elevating.
We'll talk about that one next time, right, right. So
that actor's name is Richard Jenkins, and he's been in
a great many hilarious movies since.
Speaker 1: Then, Step Brothers.
Speaker 2: Fantastic and step Brothers one of my favorite movies. Brilliant
part that he plays. He actually they started filming this movie.
They start talking to him and they find out that
he lives in Rhode Island, and then they find out
he lives on the street that they grew up on,
Like he moved on to their street just a little
while after their family moved away from the weird coincidence.
But that guy that plays the psychiatrist, actor's name is
Richard Jenkins, and he is funny.
Speaker 1: That part where he's sneaking in. He's supposed to be
sitting there listening to his problems, he's clearly eating. He
sneaks in the last second. Yeah, funny. The really funny
part is when they go back to the police headquarters
and the police are interrogating him and Ted thinks that
he's in trouble from picking up a hitchhiker, right, And
they think that he's in there because he's a murderer, right,
And they're quizzing him about you know how many Ted,
I mean, let's talk numbers.
Speaker 2: It is the classic confessing to a crime that you
didn't know you were confessing to scene, but they did.
They took it up a level and it made it awesome.
So what I told you before, Detective Stabler is the
bartender from Dumb and Dumber. Yes, the other detective is
the guy from three o'clock High, the bully from three.
Speaker 1: Three o'clock High and Kindergarten cop yep. But as the
interrogation is going, he slams ben Steeller's head down on
the table like three times, and it's it was a
pure accidental thing that the hood came over his eyes. Yeah,
and when he threw him back in the chair and
he fell on I mean that part I died laughing.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Okay, there's one other scene I want to talk about
from There's something about Mary.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: The scene that I want to talk about is the
cleaning the pipes scene. Okay, it's gonna be tricky.
Speaker 2: This is where we get into that really thirteen side
of PG thirteen.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Yes, So Ted's friend Dom Wiganowski, who we
find out is actually Woogy, Mary's former boyfriend, tells him
that Dad's getting ready to go on a date with Mary,
and Wiggie says, have you cleaned the pipes? And He's like,
what are you talking about? And he's like, you know,
spank the monkey, choked the chicken, flog the doll, flog
the dolphin.
Speaker 2: You don't. You are not telling me that you don't
flog the dophins or a big date.
Speaker 1: And his premise is that how do you feel right afterwards? Hu,
He's like, I feel great, I feel fine. He's like, right,
exactly right.
Speaker 2: You're thinking like a girl. You're thinking like a girl,
which girls love.
Speaker 1: So basically, if you don't clean the pipes before you
go on a date, you're going with a loaded gun.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: He's like, my god, I've been going out with a
loaded gun. So you have this hilarious scene where he's
choking the chicken and can't find the results. He's lost
the results.
Speaker 2: Yes, So the way they came up with this, they
talk about how they just come up with I mean
they write scripts together, right, yes, And so they don't
really know where the jokes come from. But this one
they remembered. In particular. They're driving along in a car
and it wasn't they weren't talking about this movie. They
were just Peter says, what if you were flogging the
dogphins and then you couldn't find the product. And then
Bobby's like, okay, but where would it be? And then
that leads into well, you know what if it you know,
what if it ends up on your shoe or in
your hair, on your ear, and they're like oh yeah,
and then it kind of goes back and forth. They
drive a few more minutes and they're like, but what
if somebody else is the one that finds it? Like,
oh right, but what would you do? What would you
say that it was you know? And they're like, oh,
what else is it going to look like? And he
goes hair gel and so at that point they're like, oh,
we can put this in there, something about Mary and
it's Mary is the one that suggests that it's hair.
Speaker 1: Sheel okay, So they had to twist Karen Diaz's arm
to film this scene. Okay, She's like, I don't, guys,
I just don't want to be called his hair for
the rest of my career, right, And so they say, well, look,
we gotta at least film it. Let's at least film it,
and if we show it to the test audiences and
people laugh, we've got to leave it in. And so
she agreed that it would kind of be a test thing,
and when they tested it people died and the way
her hair spiked hair and she is deadpan talking to
him and he nothing's wrong and he can't help but
just keep staring at her her bangs. It is hilarious. Yeah,
comedy gold.
Speaker 2: So, speaking of comedy, another actor, and there's something about
Mary that we haven't talked about is Norm Yes aka Tucker.
So this guy is a brilliant actor. He's done like
a two hour, two and a half hour long one
man show on Broadway and has like twenty jokes permitted,
I mean, and it is hysterical. Really, yeah, he was
in mouse Hunt. He's really really funny. His British accent
is terrible. It's terrible.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: The reason that this is funny is because he's actually British,
which means he's brilliant because he's actually British. But he's
playing an American who is faking a British accent, and
so his accent would be terrible. When they showed this
to the test audiences at the end, that the audiences
were like, I really I thought his accent, his British
accent was terrible. That's ridiculous. Nobody's gonna buy that.
Speaker 1: And like he's British. That's awesome, brilliant love it.
Speaker 2: The exchange between Mary and Ted about how there aren't
enough meats on sticks is very Seinfeld esque. Yes, it
actually was supposed to be in Seinfeld. Yeah, so they
didn't steal it. They had. It was just one that
Seinfeld never used. And with all of their scripts, the
Fairly Brothers will get you know, five six seven writing
friends together to try to punch the lines up, and
this was a product of that, that round table session.
Speaker 1: Not enough meat on sticks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't need more meat in a cone. So
there's a few scenes I want to talk.
Speaker 1: About, flipping back to Dumb and Dumber. Yeah, So when
they go to the truck stop and Harry spills the salt, yes,
and Lloyd says, quick, throw some salt over your right shoulder,
and he takes the salt container and throws it and
it hits sea bass.
Speaker 2: All right, who's a dead man, and hit me with
the salt shaker?
Speaker 1: Who's this big, burly, mean guy who's got a hat
that says wind him dynam sixty nine him, And he's
mean and he comes back and he's very upset and
he hawks in their burger right to get him back.
Speaker 2: Lloyd is pointing.
Speaker 1: Salt shaker to get him back. Lloyd says, I've got
a yeah, I've got an idea. So they walk back
to the Sea Bass. He says, I'd like to buy
you guys around the beers, just to bury the hatch
it yep, And he's like, yeah, okay, four boiler makers.
They go back to the waitress and they say Sea
Bass said they were going to pick up our tab,
and she's like what and he looks and he's pointing,
like bring me the beers, and so they blaze out
of there, and it's really a funny scene, right, and
he sticks Sea Bass with the tab that was stolen
from a movie called Something Wild, which starred Melanie Griffith
and Jeff Daniels.
Speaker 2: Yes, and Jeff Daniels was the guy. They talk about
it like I saw that scene in a movie. Oh
did he get away?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: They know they kind of within half a mile down
the road slit his throat, right, So have you seen something? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I have?
Speaker 2: Do you remember that scene? Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, it's more tense because the guy that they're with,
Ray Liota, is a bad guy and there's cops right
next to him. And it said, you know, come after
me if you dare. But there's cops right there, so
it's tense.
Speaker 2: So I called, Like I said, before I came. Arla
and I were talking on the phone. I asked if
he had seen it. He said yes. I said, do
you remember that scene? He was like, ah, not really.
It was a long time ago and I was trying
to make out with the girl. And I said, I'm
going to steal that line. I was like, wait a minute,
nobody's gonna believe that when I was like eleven years old,
I was trying to make out with a girl.
Speaker 1: Okay. The other scene I've got to talk about is
the toilet scene. Oh, this is the signature just like
the hair the scene. Well, yeah, the zipper scene from
something about Mary. This is the signature scene.
Speaker 2: I mean the hair jel.
Speaker 1: Scene, the hair jelusye right. The toilet scene is the
signature scene from Dumb and Dumber.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Lloyd is mad at Harry for going around with Mary,
and you know, he's supposed to be setting him up
and instead he's skiing with her, and she touched his
leg and all this stuff. So he pours a whole
bunch of laxative into his cocoa or whatever tea. Tea
has hot tea. You know what, I like, Harry, because
you're a regular gun. And so Harry goes to pick
up Mary and all of a sudden he has got
to go to the bathroom like now, and it's like explosive, explosive.
So he finds the toilet and they kept shooting it
saying no more, Jeff louder Jeff like like you're a hurricane, Jeff,
you know. So he kept going more and more and more,
and Jeff Daniels says, that's my oscar scene. That's the
best he could do. Here's the funny story about that.
Jeff Daniels was at a golf tournament and Clintie Swood
came up to him and said that exact thing happened
to him while he was on a date. He had
to go and he was at her house. Clintie Swood, Ladies.
Speaker 2: And gentlemen, Yeah, I had that happened to me. I
believe it was a second date. That girl's last name
is now Graves. Yes, indeed I married that girl.
Speaker 1: Congratulation giving it casey. So that scene is hilarious. The
last scene I really want to talk about from Dumb
and Dummer is the very end Lloyd and Harry have escaped.
They've you know, the guys are caught and they're leaving
town and they've they lost their hog broke down, they
lost all the money, and they take the Diablo and
now they're just walking.
Speaker 2: On the highway. It wasn't supposed to be in the movie. Okay,
it wasn't in the original cut of the movie. You
ended on the scene where they meet the husband and
he has that you know, weird dream sequence where he's
murdering the husband. Right, that was the end, And it
was actually the studio that said, you can't end here,
you have to have something else where, like they went.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I heard that they were going to do
a couple of different innings. One of them was they
were going to go back to the Stanley Hotel the
Danbury in the movie, and they were going to work
for Barney babysitting his grandson, who turns out to be
Billy the blind kid from four C with the dead parakeet.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 1: So they didn't shoot that, right, but they did shoot
the Hawaiian Tropic bikini bus pull up and you have
the oh Leelujah, and you think Lloyd and Harry finally
get their big break because they need two oil boys
to grease them up before every competition. You have these
beautiful girls and they're like you are in luck. There
is a town about three miles that way, and the
studio wanted Harry and Lloyd to win, and they wanted
him to get on the bus and become the oil boys.
And Jim Carrey refused to shoot that scene.
Speaker 2: Right They the Fairly Brothers didn't want them to get
on the bus either, and Jim Carrey said, no way,
I'm getting on that bus, and so they were able
to bank on him. Sorry, Jim said, no. Okay. So
final scene of There's Something about Mary, Okay, not quite
final scene. Okay, Let's talk about one other scene first,
the serious scene, the scene where she gets the letter
informing her that he had hired Pat Healley to come
down and spy on her.
Speaker 1: Right, yep, so sad. It makes me sad.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's heartbreaking, Yes, it's heartbreaking. Again. At the beginning
of that scene, he comes in and he has a
ball that's signed Did you catch this?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Did you catch who it was signed by? No? It's
signed by Tony Connigliero.
Speaker 1: Yes, do you know who that is? No?
Speaker 2: Okay, so just a bit before that, you've got this
wonderful romantic montage where they're at the batting cages and
they're about to kiss and he gets the hook in
his mouth. Yes, And my gosh, can I just say,
Cameron Diaz is amazingly beautiful? Here is heavily every single
day ges it is. It's it's mind blowing how they
created I told you at the beginning, the studio messed
it up.
Speaker 1: You didn't like Mary.
Speaker 2: At the end of the version that the studio came
up with when they were working on Ed Decker and
John Strauss's script. When the Fairly Brothers took this, one
of the things that they said is you have to
think that this is the perfect woman. And they knocked
it out of the park. She's so real, she's willing
to speak her mind. She's confident but not snow I mean,
and she talks sports.
Speaker 1: She's a surgeon, she.
Speaker 2: Loves golf, and she is incredibly good looking. Yes, incredibly
good looking.
Speaker 1: Yep, tight little package, affirmative.
Speaker 2: And the way you fall in love with Ben. Who
is this? You know? Obviously Goofball and Underdog for sure.
Is that even when he thinks she's gotten fat and
in a wheelchair and has a bunch of illageimate kids,
he says, I guess I still have feelings for him. Yeah,
you you buy in at that point. And so you
see this wonderful montage. You've got them, they're about to
be together.
Speaker 1: I'm going to stuff you read there for just a second.
When Matt Dylan is describing her, he's trying to throw
Ted off the scent right right, and he says, yeah,
Deuce's half. Yeah, it's like bus and a half. We
got four kids or three different guys. Oh, she's in
a wheelchair, right, wheelchair, you know. And so Ted comes
back and he's like, no, I really do want to
see her, and he says roller pig. That line does
cracked me up. Rollerkeig key going.
Speaker 2: So in the montage scene before that heartbreak scene, he
convinces Warren to get in the back cages and he
keeps like, no, get in, get in closer, and then
bam he gets hit by the pitch right and the
next scene you see Warren he's fishing and he's got
a black eye, yes, because he got hit in the
face with the ball when he comes in at the
beginning of the heartbreak scene, he's got a ball that's
signed by Tony Conigliaro, who was a Major League Baseball
outfielder for the Boston Red Sox. Okay, Fever Pitch is
another movie by the Fairly Brothers by way yep, based
on the Boston Red Sox, which had a fantastic coincidence
of them winning the Pennant.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a story for another but yes, oh
my gosh, amazing how that lined up.
Speaker 2: Really Anyway, he was a fantastic player for them, played
during the Impossible Dream season in nineteen sixty seven, but
that year he got hit in the face by a
pitched that caused a severe eye injury and derailed his
career and made a comeback from the injury, but he
was never the same after that. So that is an
amazing Like, unless you really know Red Sox history, you're
not going to know that he got a ball signed
by a guy who got hit in the face with
the ball for his friend who got hit in the
face with the ball. That's some deep stuff.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, man, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Okay, So in this movie. Another actor that we haven't
mentioned yet who has a very small part in the
movie is Jeffrey Tambore. You know Jeffrey Tambore. I mean
he's everywhere, but he.
Speaker 1: Plays the part of Sully.
Speaker 2: Yes, there's a whole storyline that didn't get developed with him,
which could have been fantastic. He is a cop who
used to know Pat before, had gotten addicted to drugs,
went down to Florida, cleaned his life back up, and
was doing well again. But when Pat comes down to
see him, he completely falls off the wagon starts doing
cocaine again, which is why, even though they've cut most
of his scenes out, that one scene where he's laying
on his couch and he's reading from script about him
working for the Peace Corps, his apartment is entire is
a total wreck. Right. Yes, So then the scene there's
a scene where Ted goes to find Pat after the
heartbreak scene, right, and they walk into an apartment that's
Sully's apartment. It's the one with the pile of dog
crap on the floor. Remember they had the giant dog.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: They don't really explain it because they had to cut
all of these this storyline as it turns out another
thing that was on the table was a giant Boa
constrictor pet. In the original script.
Speaker 1: It's not it's a like a it's like a Burmese python.
It's the it's like an it's huge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so they in the original script, they walk in,
they see the snake with his huge bulge in it,
and they think that the dog has been eaten by
the snake. And then the dog comes out the door
and they realize it Sully has been eaten by the
That's that would have been a brilliant, brilliant scene.
Speaker 1: There's actually a deleted scene from Dumb and Dumber now
that you mention it. JP Shay, who is Karen Duffy.
She's trying to shoot Harry with a rifle, okay, And
the scene where Harry gets his tongue stuck to the pole.
Speaker 2: Yes, and Mary is pulling on his head.
Speaker 1: Come off quick like a bandy, right, she's yanking on
his head, which that seems hilarious. There is a mime
performing at the ski resort, which this was all cut. Okay,
this is mime and he's doing all these robotic moves
or whatever, and as Mary pulls and like extracts his
tongue from the pole. Shae fires. Of course she misses
his head because it's pole. Yeah, and it goes right
through the hand of the mime, who's like, which that
I slapped out loud is so funny. But they cut
all that from from Dumb and Dumbo. It's tragic hilario.
Speaker 2: Yes. So apparently when they first made Dumb and Dumber
they had three hours of footage after doing all the editing.
They had three hours of footage, yes, and they said,
I don't know how we can cut one minute more.
This is so funny. I don't know how we cut
And so they brought in a test audience of like
forty friends and forty people they didn't know, yes, and
they show them the entire three and a half hours
of footage, and when people are walking out, you know,
they go to a friend and they're like, so, what
do you think and he says, honestly, the worst, Oh no.
And so within two days they had cut another one
hundred and twenty minutes off of the film.
Speaker 1: The editing of Dumb and Dummer was great, Okay, So
I have just a couple of tidbits from There's something
about Mary I want to throw out here real quick.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: In one of the scenes, Cameron Diaz is actually playing golf.
There's a whole scene at a driving range. She didn't
play golf, but they brought in somebody to stand in
for her whose swing was worse than Cameron Diaz. So
they left Cameron Diaz in. Matt Dillon's dad is a
golf coach.
Speaker 2: He was terrible.
Speaker 1: He's horrible.
Speaker 2: They had somebody work with Cameron Diaz and she had
a great looking swing. Yes, I mean, she hadn't swung
a golf club before, but I mean she's just a
natural athlete and the fact that she's built like she's
built makes it very enjoyable to watch her swing. Now,
her shot was not so good. So what they did
was they would have her swing. I had a little
cannon where they would shoot the golf ball out into
the water to make it look like an awesome shot.
Speaker 1: When Cameron Diaz takes Pat Healy to that architecture exhibit, yeah,
she says, what do you think is this art deco
or is it Art nouveau Art nouveau, And he's like,
our deco. He's actually correct. That was art deco. Nice.
One other thing. During the course of the movie, Pat
Healy says to Mary, I just wish they would make
movies the way they used to make, you know, classics
like The Karate Kid. Yes, Matt Dylan and Ralph Macchio
starred together in the movie The Outsiders.
Speaker 2: Filmed Untilsa, Oklahoma, home of our friend and host of
the show, mister Jason.
Speaker 1: Yes, we've got to cover that at some point. Yeah, okay,
So just a couple of tidbits from Dumb and Dumber. Okay,
the rat poison pills that they actually use. Those are smarties,
those candy smarties.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: Out with the batter and the good air gas man.
Speaker 2: How do they know? I have again?
Speaker 1: And they just told Jim Carrey to go crazy and
that's why he scorted ketchup and mustard all over the place.
Speaker 2: And Jeff Daniels went with it. I just died. Wait
a minute, No, that's wrong, Jeff Daniel.
Speaker 1: Jeff Daniels did it first and then carry Oh.
Speaker 2: Just squore straight up in the air in his nose.
That's right.
Speaker 1: If you would like to buy the mini bike that
Lloyd and Harry ride all the way to Aspen, that
is called a taco twenty two okay, and it's something
you can actually purchase.
Speaker 2: I've got a dogmobile that I can trade you four
straight up.
Speaker 1: They're driving an eighty four sheep. And then finally, I
can't really recommend the sequel to Dumb and Dumber, but
the sequel starts in a mental institution where Lloyd has
been catatonic for twenty years because of his loss of Mary, right,
and Harry visits him regularly and is finally like, come on, dude,
you got to pull yourself out of this, and Lloyd's like, gotcha,
And it's a big joke that he was catatonic for
twenty years as a result of Mary Dumbingham.
Speaker 2: I'm impressed that you watched that. I'm impressed that you
watched Dumb and Dumber, or even more, do youpen to
catch the cartoon.
Speaker 1: I've never seen the cartoon.
Speaker 2: The cartoon is interesting because not because I've seen it
or anything like that, but because you've got the guy
who played Dauber from Coach Vote voicing Harry, and the
guy who voiced Lloyd is Matt Frewer aka Max Headroom.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right, Max Headroom. Okay, we've been going
a long time. Before we get the final judgment, I
want to talk just for a second about the soundtracks. Okay, okay,
Dumb and Dummer for me has one of my favorite
soundtracks of the nineties. Yep, you've got some great songs
on there. We talked about Pete Druge, just a whole
lot of great songs. Crash Test Dummies have a couple
of songs in the movie the That is the greatest
charade song to ever play. If you're ever playing trades,
need a song, that's the best one. But I love
that soundtrack for there's something about Mary Yea. At the
end in the closing credits, they sing build Me Up Buttercup,
Yes by the Foundations, and they had clearly as they
worked their way through the scenes in the movie, they
had collected people's lip singing them yeah. And the closing
credits are some classic they're all singing build Me on
a Buttercup. Two wonderful soundtracks from the nineties. Yep, let's
talk final juasument.
Speaker 2: Okay, you go first, all right, these.
Speaker 1: Movies are both freaking hysteric.
Speaker 2: Let's see it. Just agreed.
Speaker 1: There are parts of both movies that I just die
laughing the first time I saw them, and today I
still die laughing. They're so funny. I know people that
are this is not through type of humor, and I'm
sorry for you, right, I feel bad for you because
these movies. These movies bring.
Speaker 2: Joy to my soul.
Speaker 1: But for me, the better of the two. It has
more heart, has more laughs, has a more compelling plot.
It's dumb and dumber all the way, one hundred percent
by a landslide.
Speaker 2: That's your opinion, But your opinion is wrong.
Speaker 1: Surely you can't be serious.
Speaker 2: I am serious, and don't call me Shirley agreed that
Dumb and Dumber is a hilarious movie. I gotta say
the first time I said I didn't really care for
it had to grow on me. What, Yeah, it had
to grow on me. I was not the same. Thing's
true for Asvan Tura. It took me a while to
enjoy Jim Carrey movies. Loved him in a living color,
but took me a while to warm up to them.
Now I think they're great. I've gotten on board with them, okay,
but there's something about Mary. I immediately went out and
rewatched again because it was so good because you have
all of the humor that you have from Dumb and Dummer,
and I would argue more. I mean, dumb and Dumber's
got a lot of funny stuff. I on rewatching There's
something about Mary, was laughing. I was having to put
my hands over my face to contain my laughter. I
was laughing so hard at the Zipper scene, at the
scene with the dog with Matt Dillon, at the scene
with the dog with Ben Stiller where he's wrestling, I mean,
there were pains in my side. I was laughing so hard. Funny,
and as far as a plot goes, it is far
and away a better plot line than Dumb and Dumber.
And Dumb and Dumber, you have no mystery. Everything is
given away. We know who the bad guy is at
the beginning. There are no surprises with There's something about Mary.
There are these little hints that they drop throughout the
movie that you have no idea about until you get
to the end and you're like, whoa dom is Woogie?
Whoa Brett is Brett? Fava? What? Okay? So they call
him pacman. I didn't catch it. They talk about him
being a corn I didn't catch any of that stuff.
No sir, and this one, I this line escaped me
every time. It wasn't n till the commentary that I
was like, oh, when Dom is there and there in
the yard talking about Mary, and he's got the kids, who,
by the way, are like Bobby's kids, right, and the
dog who's like Peter's dog, and the wife who's like
the producer's wife. When he's got that and it's obviously
a fantastic life that he has, and Ben Stiller points
out that it's a fantastic life, and he says, yep,
each day is better than the next, and his expression,
I was just like, he doesn't really mean it. But
then I thought about the line. I didn't think about
the line. But he doesn't say each day is better
than a last, right, he says each day's better than
the next, which means it's getting worse and worse. I
was shocked at the end on several levels. He walks
out crying. I believed it. I was like, holy crap,
she's gonna end up with Brett. He loses, right, and
then they pay it off and she comes out and
she has a little messing with him bit and then
he says, you're effing with me right, and she's like, no,
I think I'd be happiest with you. That moment sold.
It sold so hard, there's no question for me. There's
something about Mary has got to be the better at
least two mets.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's unbelievable. I can't believe you said that. All right, well,
we want to hear from you. Where are you on
this argument? You guys love them dummer? Do you love
something about marry The town's back That way
Speaker 2: To town, domb