1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: The Incredible Hulk will not be present of this evening. 2 00:00:12,279 --> 00:00:16,559 Speaker 2: Welcome everybody back to the Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast. 3 00:00:16,679 --> 00:00:19,239 We are on a super special edition where we are 4 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,960 covering the Star Wars Holiday Special with some of our 5 00:00:24,039 --> 00:00:28,480 great friends from the thirty something Movie Podcast. I'm here 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,199 with my co host Jason. Jason, how are you doing, man, 7 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:32,039 I'm doing great. 8 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:34,119 Speaker 3: D I'm excited to be here and excited to hang 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:35,719 out with our buddies from thirty something. 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: We have a plate of wookie ookie cookies right in 11 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,280 front of us here, we're jumping on them. And to 12 00:00:42,399 --> 00:00:45,560 introduce the thirty something guys, we have John Reid. 13 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: Hey, how's it going. We've got more than four people, 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:49,920 and I think we need a banth Rump to feed 15 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,640 more than four, don't we We have hardy appetite. I 16 00:00:53,679 --> 00:00:55,719 mean we have already appetites, So I mean Pat Alan 17 00:00:55,799 --> 00:00:57,359 could probably take down one Banther Rump. 18 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: We need Harvey Corman and drag to come and look 19 00:01:00,359 --> 00:01:00,640 for us. 20 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,159 Speaker 4: Yes, I don't know. 21 00:01:04,359 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 5: I don't know what's more disturbing is is him doing 22 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,719 the cooking show or the fact that they were eating 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,079 Bantha Rump. I don't I just I don't know about 24 00:01:14,079 --> 00:01:14,799 that any of that. 25 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 4: I don't know what that. 26 00:01:16,079 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, what are banth is supposed to be pets 27 00:01:20,159 --> 00:01:20,640 or food? 28 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,879 Speaker 1: I know there's that. There's that deleted scene I think 29 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,239 from the original Star Wars where Luke has the macro binoculars. 30 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,400 He's like, yeah, there's there's two banthas. I can see 31 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,680 one of them now and that, Oh that one looks 32 00:01:30,719 --> 00:01:34,280 tasty and I'd like a side of that. 33 00:01:35,079 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 3: Hey, according to the Mandalorian, the Crey Dragon really thinks banthas 34 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:39,439 are tasty. 35 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: It's true. Yeah, that show. 36 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,879 Speaker 2: Oh, I wish we could talk about that show all right. 37 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,239 Who you got with us tonight? 38 00:01:48,359 --> 00:01:51,359 Speaker 1: John, We've got so I dragged a couple other people 39 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,799 here with me. I've got Pat Cannagallo. Pat, I think 40 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,280 your your your background here on Zoom. You're on the Orca, 41 00:01:56,359 --> 00:01:56,719 aren't you. 42 00:01:57,159 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 4: That's right. 43 00:01:58,359 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 5: I've been on the Orca put off from Ammit the 44 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,519 Island and podcasting ever since. So it's great to be 45 00:02:03,599 --> 00:02:06,840 here this I mean, huge fan of your guys show. 46 00:02:06,959 --> 00:02:09,159 I mean it's it's great and I know we were 47 00:02:09,159 --> 00:02:11,759 saying before we started recording, yet it's been a while 48 00:02:12,159 --> 00:02:14,199 and it sort of it's been a while, but sort 49 00:02:14,199 --> 00:02:16,319 of not because I've listened to you guys, like you know, 50 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,560 almost every day I'm listening to one of your episodes, 51 00:02:18,599 --> 00:02:20,400 so it feels like, you know, it's just like I 52 00:02:20,439 --> 00:02:21,400 just saw you yesterday. 53 00:02:21,719 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 4: Thanks so thank you so much for having us here. 54 00:02:24,199 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: We feel the same way you guys every week. It 55 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,280 is a joy to listen to you guys get together 56 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,360 and hit a movie that's thirty years old. 57 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you guys, thank you. And I've also got 58 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,800 the Man, the Myth, the legend. Dennis matouc over here too. 59 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 6: Hey, pleasure to be here. Thank you guys for having 60 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,479 me and looking forward to this. I just you guys 61 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,479 are all talking about appetites and eating. I have no 62 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,759 idea how after watching that, you guys have an appetite 63 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,479 for at least forty eight hours. 64 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,879 Speaker 1: I did bring Dennis because I wanted to make sure 65 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,159 we had somebody who was a full grown adult when 66 00:02:54,159 --> 00:02:57,599 this came on. So, you know, Dennis is Dennis is 67 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,919 really old. He's you know, what are you now, like sixty? 68 00:03:00,159 --> 00:03:01,879 Speaker 7: Didn't you just have a birthday? And what was it? 69 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: Yeah it was earlier than yours. 70 00:03:04,199 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 2: Okay, so how old are you. 71 00:03:06,599 --> 00:03:07,439 Speaker 4: I'm forty two. 72 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: Okay, so you're the youngest. No, No, forty five. John's forty. 73 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 7: Just turned forty. 74 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,479 Speaker 2: Happy birthdays. Happy birthday, man, Thank you. 75 00:03:17,599 --> 00:03:19,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, Happy birthday John and an old soul. 76 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: Now, wait a minute, your birthday is very close to 77 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,120 life day. What are we talking? Day? 78 00:03:26,759 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: December sixth, Oh, dang. 79 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,199 Speaker 7: That was It was a couple of weeks. 80 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: So it was close. It was close. 81 00:03:32,439 --> 00:03:36,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, John, you're forty Dennis held are you forty nine? 82 00:03:37,439 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: That's okay, I'm forty seven. I'm forty five, so I'm 83 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,719 square in the middle of you, guys. I just we 84 00:03:43,719 --> 00:03:47,039 were trying to remember what we really remember about watching 85 00:03:47,199 --> 00:03:50,080 the Star Wars Holiday special. Dennis, did you see this 86 00:03:50,199 --> 00:03:52,240 in the original? Yeah? 87 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,039 Speaker 7: Actually we did. We saw it on TV the actual run. 88 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 6: The only thing that I actually remember back then was 89 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,800 I remember the big like kind of like, I have 90 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,439 a big memory of the treehouse, the Stormtroopers up there, 91 00:04:02,479 --> 00:04:06,120 and I remember like Han Solo rushing in, and I 92 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,240 do remember Luke being on there and looking different than 93 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,159 he did in the movie. 94 00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 3: We were just talking, So I definitely am old enough 95 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,719 to remember going to see Star Wars in the theaters, 96 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,160 but so I was born in seventy three, so seventy 97 00:04:19,199 --> 00:04:22,839 seven I would be four. But it was released several times, 98 00:04:22,879 --> 00:04:25,199 so it was released in seventy seven, it was re 99 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:29,160 released in seventy eight and seventy nine, so I'm not 100 00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:32,480 sure which. I remember having a C threebo figure in 101 00:04:32,519 --> 00:04:34,920 my hand when I went, so it couldn't have been 102 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:35,759 the original run. 103 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's tough trying to put together those memories. 104 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,720 But Star Wars was a hugely important thing in my 105 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:43,800 life still is really, so. 106 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,639 Speaker 7: Yeah, the original the actual Star Wars I did see 107 00:04:46,639 --> 00:04:47,079 in the theater. 108 00:04:47,199 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 6: I mean I had because I had four older brothers, 109 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,439 so I was in that situation where I was going 110 00:04:50,519 --> 00:04:53,079 to get dragged along to the theater with them. So 111 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,839 I saw a lot of movies when I was relative. 112 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,360 I look back now and I'm like, wow, I saw 113 00:04:57,399 --> 00:04:59,040 that when I was like five or six or seven, 114 00:04:59,079 --> 00:05:00,879 and you kind of remember. But I do remember having 115 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,000 like nightmare dreams a little bit over the original Star Wars, 116 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,079 just about stormtroopers chasing me through Kmart like it. 117 00:05:07,079 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 4: It was more for me. 118 00:05:08,439 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: The original original Star Wars I saw in eighty one. 119 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,439 I would have been like one or two years old. 120 00:05:14,439 --> 00:05:16,480 But I know this for a fact because and I 121 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,920 saw it at home, didn't see in the theater, because 122 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,279 I was born in eighty My dad and I remember 123 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,399 him telling this. He must have lorded this over us 124 00:05:23,439 --> 00:05:25,839 for a while. He must have spent something like eight 125 00:05:25,959 --> 00:05:29,199 hundred dollars nine hundred dollars on a VCR back in 126 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,120 eighty one, and he only had enough money left over 127 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,040 to by one VHS tape because they were about eighty 128 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,439 or ninety bucks apiece at the time, and so he 129 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,120 bought the original Star Wars. I still have that VHS 130 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,519 tape sitting somewhere in a box I will. I won't 131 00:05:42,519 --> 00:05:44,720 play it because it'll get ripped to shreds if I do. 132 00:05:45,959 --> 00:05:48,079 But yeah, I still have that. And that was. So 133 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,199 that was like my babysitter for a while, because my 134 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,160 parents realized if they stuck me in front of the 135 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,879 TV and put that on, I'm not crawling away. I'm 136 00:05:54,879 --> 00:05:57,759 not going anywhere. I'm locked in. So that was that 137 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,439 was the start of my Star Wars life affair. 138 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,079 Speaker 2: Okay, so on a scale of one to ten, with 139 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,879 ten being the most nerdy Star Wars fan that you 140 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:14,160 can be and one being you saw one of the movies. 141 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,040 Where do you get where do you guys from this? 142 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: This one goes to eleven? Okay, now that's for me. Yeah, 143 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,759 for me, it's I'm I'm a ten. If there's something 144 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,360 higher than ten, sure, like I'm the one I bo 145 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,000 was on here, he would tell you don't play Star 146 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,879 Wars trivial pursuit with me. I had a buddy that 147 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:38,360 I went to a I wanted to go to a 148 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,199 Star Wars trivia at a bar that's that's up in 149 00:06:41,199 --> 00:06:44,600 one of the towns up here. And I didn't want 150 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,759 to be the lonely dork sitting there by myself doing 151 00:06:46,759 --> 00:06:48,959 Star Wars trivia. So a friend of mine went with me, 152 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,160 and he's like, I like Star Wars, but I'm not 153 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,360 gonna be able to answer any of these questions. And 154 00:06:53,399 --> 00:06:56,600 so I single handedly answered every single question right and 155 00:06:56,959 --> 00:06:58,959 I won. I mean I was in a room of 156 00:06:58,959 --> 00:07:02,439 like eighty other people. I won just by myself versus 157 00:07:02,439 --> 00:07:05,079 these teams of like eight to ten people. So and 158 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,600 I dressed my family up, like we go to the 159 00:07:06,639 --> 00:07:09,879 comic book conventions here in Chicago, and my kids are 160 00:07:09,959 --> 00:07:12,279 dressed up. My daughter was the Mandalorian, my wife was 161 00:07:13,399 --> 00:07:15,680 Casta knew that the Jedi Library in the last time 162 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,680 we went. You know, I've done Luke Skywalker all the no. 163 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,079 If you yeah, I go to eleven. We'll put it 164 00:07:22,079 --> 00:07:22,399 that way. 165 00:07:22,639 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: Okay, what about you? 166 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,399 Speaker 5: Well, if John is a ten like I, I've never 167 00:07:28,839 --> 00:07:31,439 been on a bench, Okay, John's eleven. 168 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 4: I mean I don't know. 169 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,639 Speaker 5: I would I would definitely say like an eight or 170 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,800 nine the last like a ten. 171 00:07:37,879 --> 00:07:39,639 Speaker 4: I mean, how much do I love Star Wars? I 172 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:40,439 would say a ten. 173 00:07:40,879 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 5: As far as like just having that knowledge, I think 174 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,079 it would kind of be an insult to John if 175 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,240 I kind of ranked myself in his category of just 176 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,199 having that knowledge. So that's that's the only thing that 177 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:51,959 I knocked myself down a little bit on. 178 00:07:53,839 --> 00:07:55,319 Speaker 4: But how much do I love Star Wars? Oh? 179 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, because I mean I remember, you know, like some 180 00:07:58,759 --> 00:08:01,480 of my earliest members playing with the neighbor, and like 181 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,680 I had a friend and she would come over and 182 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,240 I had I had dark hair, so I was Han Solo. 183 00:08:07,319 --> 00:08:09,720 My friend was blonde, so he was Luke Skywalker. And 184 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:11,160 then I had a friend that would come over and 185 00:08:11,199 --> 00:08:13,759 she'd be Princess Leah. I mean from the earliest memories, 186 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,160 I remember having the toys, playing with the toys, grabbing 187 00:08:17,839 --> 00:08:21,240 dowel rods, or breaking the broom part off a broom 188 00:08:21,279 --> 00:08:23,519 handle and then taping it up to make a lightsaber. 189 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,240 And I mean doing all those things and just like 190 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,160 like super early memories. It's Star Wars was always a 191 00:08:31,199 --> 00:08:32,679 part of it. I in fact, like one of my 192 00:08:32,759 --> 00:08:36,480 earliest I remember Empire Strikes Back because I was too 193 00:08:36,519 --> 00:08:39,879 when Empire came out, and I remember being taken to 194 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:42,600 the theater to see it, and my parents deny that 195 00:08:42,759 --> 00:08:45,879 up and down. But like I remember getting freaked out 196 00:08:45,919 --> 00:08:48,279 with the Imperial Walkers scene. 197 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 4: I mean in that scene. 198 00:08:49,159 --> 00:08:51,759 Speaker 5: Still I watch it and it it activates something in 199 00:08:51,799 --> 00:08:52,799 the reptilian brain. 200 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:53,039 Speaker 1: You know. 201 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,759 Speaker 4: I'm just like you know, drawn to that. But I 202 00:08:55,799 --> 00:08:56,600 remember getting like. 203 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 5: A shoebox like you'd buy shoes, and the shoe box 204 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,399 you could it up and it had some little like 205 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,240 pieces you could play with and it was like a 206 00:09:03,919 --> 00:09:06,480 little your shoe box became this place set that looked 207 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,320 like hath like it had a little picture of the 208 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,080 Millennium falcon and you know. So I mean all these 209 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,679 like super early memories of being a kid and playing 210 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,600 with that and all that and I mean it was 211 00:09:17,639 --> 00:09:20,159 like Star Wars was always there, you know, you as 212 00:09:20,159 --> 00:09:22,480 soon as the book started coming out, before when there 213 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,159 were only three movies, picking up all the books, reading 214 00:09:25,159 --> 00:09:27,879 all the books, talking about it with friends, you know, 215 00:09:27,919 --> 00:09:29,200 the idea that. 216 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 4: There's going to be a prequel series. What no, really? Well, yeah, 217 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,679 look at it, dude. It says episode four. 218 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 5: That means there's one two it like just I just 219 00:09:38,759 --> 00:09:43,480 remember spending hours talking about that, and so anyways, I 220 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,519 won't get too long winded, but I would definitely say 221 00:09:45,519 --> 00:09:47,759 eight or nine. I mean i'd say ten, but I 222 00:09:47,799 --> 00:09:52,080 can't compare to John's level of Star Wars intelligence and dedication, 223 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,120 So I wouldn't want to put myself in his class 224 00:09:54,759 --> 00:09:57,720 of that. But love for Star Wars, Yeah, I definitely 225 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,519 put it up there, all right, Danish. 226 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 6: Your next Yeah, I mean I would very much echoing 227 00:10:01,879 --> 00:10:03,720 a lot of what Pat says, especially when John says 228 00:10:03,759 --> 00:10:04,480 at ten or eleven. 229 00:10:04,519 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 7: Now, I would say during. 230 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 6: When I was younger, when you know, from New Hope 231 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,000 to Empire Strikes Back, when those all originally came out 232 00:10:11,039 --> 00:10:13,039 as a kid, I'd be up there with eleven with John. 233 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,159 Speaker 7: I mean, we had everything, we were involved. 234 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 6: I mean it was it was like, yeah, you were, 235 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,480 you were just you were all in with that and 236 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,720 just waiting to do whatever you had to do to 237 00:10:21,759 --> 00:10:24,080 get there to see that movie on opening day we saw. 238 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,399 I remember seeing Empire Strikes back when it first came out, 239 00:10:26,399 --> 00:10:29,039 like first day, opening day, waiting in line. 240 00:10:29,759 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 7: And then the same thing with Jedi. It was like 241 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:32,480 we had to see those. 242 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 6: Now that you know elderly, it's like, now you get 243 00:10:35,879 --> 00:10:38,639 to the point where with all the other movies, I 244 00:10:38,639 --> 00:10:41,759 would say, similar thing with Pat, where there's people who 245 00:10:41,759 --> 00:10:44,559 are still so very die hard about that all the 246 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,960 way up to whatever comes out. While I love it 247 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,360 at a ten, my knowledge and probably fan qualifications, we'd 248 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:52,879 probably closer to like the eighth. 249 00:10:52,919 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 7: So I'd put it probably like around an eight. That 250 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:55,759 would be fair. 251 00:10:55,799 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 6: Otherwise, like you said, like Pat perfectly said, it's kind 252 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,159 of an insult to anybody who's a ten. 253 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 7: If you're gonna set ten as. 254 00:11:00,279 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 6: The benchmark and John is an eleven, I gotta go 255 00:11:03,159 --> 00:11:05,360 down to about eight, maybe eight and a half, you know. 256 00:11:06,159 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 3: So you got George Lucas and John as a ten, 257 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,039 and then we've dropping down just a little bit lower 258 00:11:11,039 --> 00:11:11,240 than that. 259 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, John, maybe above George. I don't know that he 260 00:11:16,039 --> 00:11:20,639 cares as much about his George Lucas, John Jon Favreau. 261 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,159 Where are you Okay? So I'm glad to be here 262 00:11:25,159 --> 00:11:27,759 with you guys, because I know that Jason rinks far 263 00:11:27,799 --> 00:11:30,039 above me as well. He's gonna put himself in the 264 00:11:30,279 --> 00:11:33,080 same area that you guys are at. So I watched 265 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,799 all of the movies, and I can tell you things 266 00:11:35,799 --> 00:11:37,879 about all of the movies. And when I was a kid, 267 00:11:37,879 --> 00:11:40,159 I had Star Wars sheets in my bed, and I 268 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,519 played with the figurines, but I was not action figures, 269 00:11:45,759 --> 00:11:51,519 figurines whatever. I played with those a little bit, probably 270 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,360 as much as I played with the Ga Joe guys, 271 00:11:53,919 --> 00:11:56,960 but it was I don't have I don't have the 272 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,759 nerd knowledge base on this one. I obviously have it 273 00:11:59,799 --> 00:12:02,080 on a whole lot of other things. Plenty of nerdness 274 00:12:02,399 --> 00:12:06,639 over here, but Star Wars is not my wheelhouse. So 275 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,159 I would say I'm probably a five, okay, all right? 276 00:12:11,279 --> 00:12:13,919 Speaker 3: For me, I would say for the original trilogy, I 277 00:12:13,919 --> 00:12:17,279 would say I'm a ten, But I dropped. I started 278 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,559 dropping after that. So the prequels was very I was 279 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,440 Opening day guy, and you know, very interested in those. 280 00:12:25,519 --> 00:12:27,279 I was a little bit let down, and you know 281 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,679 the books and the comics, I kind of fade. 282 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: But four, five, and six for me, I'm top of 283 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:33,919 the heat. 284 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:38,639 Speaker 3: Probably so very very meaningful movies to me change my life. 285 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: So I said, we should probably break up the conversations 286 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,720 that we'll have from time to time by doing a 287 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,720 little bit of trivia. And my intention was to bring 288 00:12:50,759 --> 00:12:53,080 some Star Wars trivia. And Jason actually has the Star 289 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,080 Wars trivial pursuit, but I forgot mine. But I happened 290 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,159 to have eighties and nineties trivia cards in my call are, 291 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,080 So I said to Jason, I'm like, this is actually 292 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,240 good because I would just fail miserably at the Star 293 00:13:06,279 --> 00:13:09,159 Wars trivia. But we will break it up from time 294 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,600 to time with some Star Wars trivia and see see 295 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,759 if you guys have accurately. Are you ready ranked yourself? Yeah, 296 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,080 I'll let me do one. Let me go first, since 297 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,840 I'm the guy that doesn't know the Star Wars stuff, 298 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:26,240 I'll be the question here. All right, Okay, what is 299 00:13:26,279 --> 00:13:36,039 the first line of dialogue spoken in a New Hope? Okay, 300 00:13:36,159 --> 00:13:39,000 Jason has his hand up, He's wrung his buzzer. Pat 301 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,320 you have your hand up, and John, do you know it? 302 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,039 Speaker 1: I think I do. You guys had your hands up first, 303 00:13:45,039 --> 00:13:45,720 but I think I know it. 304 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:50,159 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I'm gonna say it's C three PO saying 305 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,120 they've shut down the main reactor will be destroyed for sure. 306 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,279 Speaker 1: I think it's C three PO saying did you hear that? 307 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 5: I think I might want to put my hand down. Okay, 308 00:14:04,279 --> 00:14:06,000 I was going to say, I was going to say 309 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,399 they've shut down the main reactor, but I didn't remember 310 00:14:09,799 --> 00:14:12,120 then the next part, so I don't remember the portion 311 00:14:12,159 --> 00:14:14,240 of it. Portion of it is C three PO saying 312 00:14:14,799 --> 00:14:16,480 they've shut down the main react. 313 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 6: That John is correct on that, because I I think 314 00:14:19,399 --> 00:14:22,559 that other line comes either like a couple of sentences 315 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:23,679 in I think. 316 00:14:23,519 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 2: It's did you hear that they've shut down the main reactor? Well, 317 00:14:26,279 --> 00:14:28,840 that is the correct answer, did you hear that they 318 00:14:28,879 --> 00:14:31,799 shut down the main reactor? So I don't know who 319 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,679 to give credit to on that one, because you were close, 320 00:14:34,919 --> 00:14:38,399 but I got to say that John got the first 321 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,240 at least four words spot on. So I'm gonna. 322 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 6: Technically, did R two D two beep or anything before that? 323 00:14:43,759 --> 00:14:48,840 Would that counted as dialogue? I maybe was he responding 324 00:14:48,879 --> 00:14:50,279 back to him or was he actually. 325 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: The first line. 326 00:14:50,519 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know. 327 00:14:51,399 --> 00:14:52,679 Speaker 2: Dang, dang, it's. 328 00:14:54,559 --> 00:14:58,399 Speaker 1: It's it's it's life, it's life day. It's a group, 329 00:14:58,639 --> 00:15:00,240 group effort. I mean we got, you know, we got 330 00:15:00,879 --> 00:15:02,840 the first couple of lines together as a collective thing. 331 00:15:02,919 --> 00:15:05,679 Speaker 3: So all right, well, are we ready to dive into 332 00:15:05,799 --> 00:15:07,480 the Star Wars Holiday special? 333 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: Dive into this thing like a pool we didn't know 334 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:11,360 was empty? 335 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,399 Speaker 3: Okay, So, like we said, this was released on November seventeenth, 336 00:15:18,519 --> 00:15:21,480 nineteen seventy eight. The budget was about a million bucks. 337 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:21,799 Speaker 2: On this. 338 00:15:25,399 --> 00:15:29,159 Speaker 7: Already charged that much million. 339 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,919 Speaker 3: Dollars, one million bucks in nineteen seventy eight. I mean, 340 00:15:33,159 --> 00:15:35,759 what was Star Wars' budget? I mean it wasn't tons. 341 00:15:36,039 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 5: You know, well, anything that resembled a special effect was 342 00:15:40,159 --> 00:15:43,919 all like a like a like a grab from the movie. 343 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,279 Speaker 4: So I don't know what they spent. 344 00:15:46,279 --> 00:15:48,879 Speaker 3: They stole a lot of stuff, you know, footage from 345 00:15:48,879 --> 00:15:50,000 the original Star Wars. 346 00:15:49,879 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: On this, clearly yeah, the original the budget the budget 347 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,720 for the original Star Wars movie is eleven million, eleven 348 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:56,360 million bucks. 349 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:01,039 Speaker 2: Okay, this is at least his tenth a good ten good. 350 00:16:01,159 --> 00:16:03,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, if Star Wars is a ten, then this is 351 00:16:03,399 --> 00:16:06,159 a one right right by the. 352 00:16:06,159 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: Way, this is the worst score I've ever seen on IMDb. 353 00:16:09,639 --> 00:16:12,919 It ranks two point one on IMDb out of ten. 354 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,080 I have never seen a score that bad in my life. Wow. Wow, 355 00:16:16,559 --> 00:16:17,120 have you guys? 356 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 3: Did I take it that you guys watched the on YouTube? 357 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:25,559 There's one particular showing of it from a Ohio TV. 358 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,039 Speaker 2: Station that's really clear. 359 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I oh, I believe Channel seven and Dayton 360 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,759 has this wonderful copy on YouTube. If you haven't seen 361 00:16:34,799 --> 00:16:37,200 it yet and you're listening to this and you want 362 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,720 to throw away an hour in thirty seven minutes of 363 00:16:39,759 --> 00:16:41,799 your life, check it out on YouTube. 364 00:16:42,399 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: It is crystal cleare pretty good quality. Grab a beer. 365 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, the quality of that one is great. And having 366 00:16:49,879 --> 00:16:52,519 seen this probably like six or seven years ago, this 367 00:16:52,679 --> 00:16:54,879 was a second watch for me, or a second like 368 00:16:55,039 --> 00:16:57,200 all the way through watch for me, And I will 369 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,559 say it was funny already knowing when I was getting 370 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,840 myself in when I started watching this, you know, just 371 00:17:01,879 --> 00:17:05,039 a few days ago when that YouTube video popped up 372 00:17:05,079 --> 00:17:08,200 and it actually starts before the special starts, and it's 373 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,640 like the Incredible Hulk will not be shown tonight. And 374 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:16,359 I'm sitting there going, oh, man, Incredible Hulk. I'd much 375 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,039 rather watch that. 376 00:17:17,839 --> 00:17:20,599 Speaker 2: You put me on the on the Incredible Hulk Nerd scale, 377 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,920 and I'm a ten solid ten on the Incredible I 378 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,440 had When my brother would go get baseball cards, I 379 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,519 would only get Incredible Hulk cards. I obsessed over Luf Rigno. 380 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,920 I watched every movie he was in, even the ones 381 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,480 that were well, they were all bad. But yeah, But. 382 00:17:37,759 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: The question, the question is, when you walk out of 383 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,319 a room, do you have the Lonely Man theme queued 384 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,079 up on your phone to play? 385 00:17:44,839 --> 00:17:46,519 Speaker 2: I put my head down and then I think you 386 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:47,839 pull it up and roar. 387 00:17:49,559 --> 00:17:51,839 Speaker 4: Do people not want to make you angry? 388 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 2: It would like anyone I'm angry? 389 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:54,759 Speaker 1: Okay? 390 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 3: When his eyes turned tail blue, just run for the hill, 391 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,160 all right. So this was broadcast on a Friday, right 392 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,880 around Thanksgiving. Like we said, November seventeen, thirteen million people 393 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,599 watch this. It finished second behind the Love Boat. 394 00:18:11,319 --> 00:18:15,079 Speaker 2: Let's be specific. Thirteen million people watched about the first 395 00:18:15,279 --> 00:18:19,359 hour of this, and then there was a unanimous click 396 00:18:19,519 --> 00:18:22,880 heard around the world as people turned their TV dial 397 00:18:23,319 --> 00:18:26,240 to some other channel besides CBS. 398 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: It's as if it's as if a million voices suddenly 399 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,559 cried out in error silenced. 400 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 2: I got that reference, I got it. This one started 401 00:18:42,759 --> 00:18:46,079 off it was a pitch by CBS to Lucas and 402 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:47,920 they wanted to do it, and Lucas saw this as 403 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,920 an opportunity to make more money with the action figures 404 00:18:52,079 --> 00:18:56,440 and other merchandise and so. But their plan was to 405 00:18:56,559 --> 00:19:00,319 do a like a combination of star Wars and a 406 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:05,079 variety show, because in the seventies, variety shows were the thing, 407 00:19:05,279 --> 00:19:08,759 right you had the Carol Burnett Show, and you had 408 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:14,559 like there were a bunch of the Mandrel Sisters. Yeah, yeah, 409 00:19:14,599 --> 00:19:16,640 there were a ton of those kind of variety shows. 410 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,319 But actually by nineteen seventy eight people had kind of 411 00:19:19,319 --> 00:19:21,640 gotten tired of them. So it was a really dated 412 00:19:21,759 --> 00:19:23,960 idea that they decided to go ahead with. 413 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: Anyway, Well, and frankly, I mean, you guys are probably 414 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,960 gonna mention this, but frankly, on paper, this it looks 415 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,680 like this should have been fine. Like they had they 416 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,279 had some pretty good talent lined up for this. I mean, 417 00:19:35,319 --> 00:19:38,440 they had Art Carney, I mean, they had Harvey Korman. 418 00:19:38,519 --> 00:19:41,559 They I mean, yeah, on paper, when you. 419 00:19:41,519 --> 00:19:43,799 Speaker 6: Said on paper, you meant cast I wanted you to 420 00:19:43,799 --> 00:19:44,920 make sure that not writing. 421 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,079 Speaker 1: No, no, no, yeah, oh the writers. No, I think the writers, 422 00:19:49,519 --> 00:19:50,480 and I think writers. 423 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 7: If I read this like a screenplay I have, I'm lost. 424 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,559 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, the writers. I think. In fact, some of 425 00:19:56,559 --> 00:19:58,279 the writers even admitted that they were coked out of 426 00:19:58,279 --> 00:19:59,200 their minds when they made this. 427 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:05,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Yeah. The the original script actually sounded 428 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,240 like it might have been pretty good. Like Lumpy disappears 429 00:20:08,279 --> 00:20:10,680 and they're trying to track him down. That sounded like 430 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,960 it might have been a little bit more interesting story 431 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:19,440 than waiting for GOODO. I mean waiting for Chewbacca. Chewbacca dead, 432 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,279 be dead? Right, Okay, So that brings me to my 433 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,400 point is this is something where I'm just like, how 434 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,640 do we have a guy who is working as a 435 00:20:29,839 --> 00:20:34,160 smuggler as his job as the family man, who has 436 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,359 a kid and a wife and a dad at home, 437 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,480 and he's got a nice house too, Like I thought 438 00:20:42,519 --> 00:20:44,799 these guys were barely scraping by, and I mean he's 439 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,480 living in what I would consider a mouse threehouse. 440 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: It's it's that's spice money. 441 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,279 Speaker 4: I'm Jason. 442 00:20:52,279 --> 00:20:53,759 Speaker 5: I'm really glad to hear you say that, because I 443 00:20:53,799 --> 00:20:58,599 thought for when you said dead be Dad, Like I thought, Oh, man, 444 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,599 I'm watching this with two mod of a lens. 445 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 4: I gotta keep a lid on this tonight. 446 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:02,599 Speaker 1: I don't want. 447 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,079 Speaker 4: But then I watched that. That's kind of what I 448 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:08,200 kept thinking was he's is that his kid or is 449 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,680 that his little brother? Like I don't and then and 450 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,559 then yeah, I don't know that. I bumped on that 451 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,000 as well. 452 00:21:16,799 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: Pat don't answer this question, but how do you feel 453 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,440 about Superman and Superman returns? 454 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 2: I'm with I'm with you, I know where I'm with you. 455 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,079 Speaker 3: One of the cool things about the Star Wars Holiday 456 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,839 special in nineteen seventy eight, you actually do get Mark 457 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:40,200 Hamill as Luke Skywalker. Harrison Ford has Hans Solo, you 458 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:45,079 get Kerry Fisher with the buns, you get Peter Mayhew. 459 00:21:45,279 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 8: Then let's talk. I'm sure she had very nice buns. 460 00:21:52,799 --> 00:21:56,920 Carry Fisher had nice buns, but for sure by return 461 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,920 of the Jet, well, okay, Peter may used. You have 462 00:22:01,039 --> 00:22:05,400 Anthony Daniels a C three po Kenny Baker for whatever reason, 463 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,880 not there not there they use the remote control Art 464 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:09,480 D two. 465 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,039 Speaker 2: And so his introduction was R two D two as 466 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,400 him so two D two, right, and then you have 467 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,440 James Earl Jones who did not Yeah, he did not 468 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,680 get credit in the original Star Wars. That's right. So 469 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,799 this is the first time that you hear that Darth 470 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,440 Vader is James Earl Jones. Yeah. 471 00:22:25,759 --> 00:22:29,559 Speaker 3: So that to me as a kid, I mean even 472 00:22:29,599 --> 00:22:32,119 as an adult, that part of me where I want 473 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:37,240 to absorb anything from a new hope, right, anything from 474 00:22:37,279 --> 00:22:40,200 a new hope I loved particularly I loved The Muppet 475 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,759 Show with Mark hammelin stuff like that. 476 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,799 Speaker 2: As a kid, I love that stuff. Anything extra I 477 00:22:45,799 --> 00:22:48,160 can get my hands on. It was awesome. And these 478 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:54,039 segments are bad. But it is those characters, you know. Yeah, yeah, 479 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,079 I mean they are still their characters, except that Luke 480 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,559 for some reason. Here's the thing, So Luke can speak 481 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,599 He's good buddies now for some reason with extended family. 482 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,480 I can't figure that part out, Like how he close 483 00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:14,319 with them, like knows their personality, like they've spent months 484 00:23:14,319 --> 00:23:19,000 and months together. But he also speaks their language. Until 485 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,799 you get to the cartoon where or C three po says, well, 486 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,480 you need me to go with you so that I 487 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,000 can translate what Chewbacca says. I'm like, wait a minute, 488 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,880 didn't We just see him talking in the Chewbacca language. 489 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,279 Speaker 1: To no, because it's what it is is Luke is 490 00:23:37,319 --> 00:23:40,519 playing a prank on Chewy. He absolutely knows how to 491 00:23:40,519 --> 00:23:43,039 speak the Wookie language, it's just Chewy he won't talk to. 492 00:23:47,599 --> 00:23:47,799 Speaker 2: Well. 493 00:23:47,839 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 5: And it's funny that you mentioned, you know, that feeling 494 00:23:50,519 --> 00:23:52,839 of Okay, all the stars were in there, and I 495 00:23:53,079 --> 00:23:55,720 get what you're saying. I mean that that's definitely like, wow, 496 00:23:55,759 --> 00:23:59,400 they they got those I mean, I kind of get 497 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,160 the feel when when watching this, it's almost like watching 498 00:24:03,839 --> 00:24:07,039 like an episode of Saturday Night Live right where they'll 499 00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:09,160 do a spoof on you know, they'll get the guest 500 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,519 in and then they'll do a spoof on whatever movie 501 00:24:11,559 --> 00:24:16,039 that guest was in, where you know, the costumes are, oh, 502 00:24:16,079 --> 00:24:18,599 those look like the costumes from the movie, but they're 503 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,720 just a little bit more silly, or they'll have the 504 00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:23,240 action from the movie, but it's a little bit more silly. 505 00:24:23,599 --> 00:24:26,880 And so that's kind of the lens that I kind 506 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,240 of fell into as I'm like, oh, dude, because i'd 507 00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:33,759 never seen this before, you know, I watched it just 508 00:24:33,839 --> 00:24:36,359 within the last day or so, and I'm like I 509 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,640 did because I'm like I'm like, well, I don't want 510 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,359 to go on the podcast and be like the guy 511 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,519 that reads the first chapter of the book and then 512 00:24:42,599 --> 00:24:44,880 tries to do the book discussion. So I like went 513 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,559 all the way through and the only thing that carried 514 00:24:46,599 --> 00:24:49,039 me through was just think of it like you would 515 00:24:49,079 --> 00:24:52,880 like sitting there watching like Saturday Night Live just not funny, 516 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,240 And that's kind of what it was. 517 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 2: Was. 518 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 5: It was the variety show and it had that flavor 519 00:24:57,519 --> 00:25:01,599 of Saturday Night Live where they're falling into their routines, 520 00:25:01,599 --> 00:25:04,799 but they're looking at the Q cards right. The sets 521 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,079 are are kind of made with a little bit of 522 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,119 that campy thing that can't be feel but you're excited 523 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,519 because it's like, oh wow, Harrison Ford is hosting Saturday 524 00:25:14,599 --> 00:25:17,119 Night Live, Tonight or Mark and now all three, so 525 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,119 that it was kind of a I kind of got 526 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,319 that vibe from it, And maybe that was just a 527 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,559 survival tactic. 528 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:22,759 Speaker 4: Of my brain. 529 00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 5: I'm not sure, but that was kind of what I 530 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,799 felt watching the watching. 531 00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:29,079 Speaker 1: This and then you start watching and you realize it's 532 00:25:29,079 --> 00:25:30,440 mid eighties Saturday Night Live. 533 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:37,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like let's let's just let's set the Wookies 534 00:25:37,839 --> 00:25:38,480 house on fire. 535 00:25:38,519 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: Once this season is done. 536 00:25:43,079 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 2: Okay, I made a reference a few minutes ago. I 537 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,319 probably should explain it. If you've never seen this holiday special. 538 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 3: It revolves around Mala, who is Chewbacca's wife, Itchy is 539 00:25:55,319 --> 00:25:59,400 Chewbacca's dad, and Lumpy, who is Chewbacca's son. 540 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,839 Speaker 2: Actually have better wookie names, but that's what they call 541 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,920 him on the show. Yes, yeah, they explained it later. 542 00:26:06,319 --> 00:26:09,079 The thing about this, Okay, So one of the variety 543 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,640 shows that was out at the time was this thing 544 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,359 that probably nobody remembers called Shields and Yarnell, And so 545 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,559 they got writers from Shields and Yarnell because it was 546 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,440 like a mime couple, and so you know, hey, we're 547 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,319 going to be doing writing for people for wookies that 548 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,640 don't speak, so this seems like the right writing folks, 549 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,200 But that wasn't who they ended up with. Ultimately, they 550 00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:35,599 ended up with Pat Proft, who he wrote Hot Shots, 551 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:41,599 Scary Movie, Real Genius. And then Bruce Flanch who he 552 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,240 you know who he is, Yes, Hollywood Squares all the time. 553 00:26:45,319 --> 00:26:48,839 He was a part of the Adam Sandler Johan thing 554 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,079 and he would write for Comic Relief and the Oscar shows. 555 00:26:53,319 --> 00:26:56,440 So with those guys, Intel you'd think, hey, this is 556 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,000 going to be a well written thing. 557 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 3: With Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford and George Luke is kind 558 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,920 of kind of doing the story. 559 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you get Art Carney, who is a comedic actor. 560 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,319 I really wish he had done this part as Ed Norton. 561 00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:10,799 That would have been the best if he had. If 562 00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:22,240 he had just been just that would have been fantastic. Hey, 563 00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:27,000 here's the thing. He his character was originally supposed to 564 00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:31,279 be Lando. I heard this. He was like he was, 565 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,240 and they obviously watered it down, but his his character 566 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,200 was supposed to be not involved in like trinket trade, 567 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,279 but like human trade. And so you can see the 568 00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:44,559 similarity of Lando's character, but you can also see the 569 00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:47,079 similarity and how he's backing down on Mala when he 570 00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:50,519 comes in, like old Billy d Williams. 571 00:27:51,599 --> 00:27:53,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was I mean that there were I did. 572 00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:55,599 I'm sure we're probably gonna get more into this, but 573 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,839 good lord, there were some really awkward, really awkward scenes, 574 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,720 awkward comments, awkward looks. In fact, that the scene you're 575 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,640 talking about when he comes in and he's talking to Mala, 576 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,839 either on that first one with a view screen, when 577 00:28:08,839 --> 00:28:11,240 he's talking to her and he has like the worst 578 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,759 possible secret code ever? Was that what he's trying to 579 00:28:15,799 --> 00:28:19,279 explain that? Yeah, that you know that shaggy carpet that 580 00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:22,559 you ordered, I know what you're calling. It's it's on 581 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,920 its way. It's gonna rive at your house. You know, 582 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,559 there was this little woman like four planets away. She 583 00:28:27,559 --> 00:28:29,000 did it by herself. In fact, you might say she 584 00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:36,039 did it by han so low, which is why. 585 00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:38,359 Speaker 2: Williams pronounces his name wrong. 586 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,759 Speaker 1: And all right, but yeah, I mean you've got those 587 00:28:41,759 --> 00:28:44,119 scenes where there's just these awkward looks and and kind 588 00:28:44,119 --> 00:28:46,240 of when he first came in, you know, in person, 589 00:28:46,279 --> 00:28:48,039 to the house, and the way he was looking at 590 00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:52,000 and talking to Mala, I'm like, dude, it's Chewbaca's wife. 591 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,119 I mean, I know he's not around. But then the 592 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,680 first thought that jumped in my head, this is how 593 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,359 twisted it was. The first thought that jumped in my 594 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,960 head was Rizzo, the rat from Muppets Take Manhattan Go. 595 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,359 Have you ever considered interspecies dating? 596 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,559 Speaker 3: Hey, speaking of that, I mean, our party's all over, Mala, 597 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,720 Princess Lea's kind of got her hands all over Chewbacca 598 00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:14,839 through during the red Robe ceremony. 599 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:22,799 Speaker 2: And obviously Itchy is very human females as well, since 600 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,440 Diane Carroll is just a projection of his own imagination, 601 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,039 should we just talk about that. 602 00:29:30,359 --> 00:29:33,319 Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's never quite explained exactly what Life 603 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,880 Day celebrates, so and we don't see I don't think 604 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,880 we see the full ceremony. I'm starting to think that 605 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,480 maybe like there's a password to get into Life Day 606 00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:45,759 that you know, only Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman know about, 607 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,559 and everybody's wearing masks and. 608 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so Pat, I want to get your take. Okay, 609 00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:57,640 this is your first time to watch when you saw 610 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,559 the virtual reality that Art Carneie hooks up Itchy with. 611 00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, oh man, I'm sitting there thinking, well, I'm sinner, 612 00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:11,359 trying to remember, like cause the VR, the kid could 613 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,400 get into the VR too, right, and it Itchy was 614 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,400 the dad. 615 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's the dad. 616 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,079 Speaker 5: It's like, well, first of all, like I could just 617 00:30:20,079 --> 00:30:22,759 think like, they can't be going there, and then it 618 00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:25,519 was just like, no, I think they're going there. 619 00:30:25,559 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 4: Pat, Like I'm talking to. 620 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,559 Speaker 5: Myself and it's just like, no, they really don't. And 621 00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:33,759 then I'm like, well, dude, this is the seventies. So 622 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,359 but I mean, it was like, okay, so I'm just imagining. Okay, 623 00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:41,039 We're at the family get together and Dad needs to escape, 624 00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:43,079 so he's going to take the VR in the back room, 625 00:30:43,119 --> 00:30:44,960 and all of a sudden, this Gale appears on screen, 626 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,279 dancing out of the mist. 627 00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 4: It was sort of like the Little Fairy Creatures, right. 628 00:30:50,279 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 5: It was sort of and then it's like all your 629 00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:55,640 desires and all your this and all your dreams, and 630 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,319 I was kind of I was kind of half listening 631 00:30:57,319 --> 00:30:58,400 to this thing, and it was like. 632 00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:03,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, experience me, Matt. 633 00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 5: Right, It's it's it's I'm gonna I'm gonna quote. I'm 634 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,880 gonna quote John's favorite movie. And I'm sorry John, because 635 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,000 you know you're gonna want to go off on. 636 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 4: The quotes there. 637 00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 5: But when he's like, good morning Vietnam and they're doing 638 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,519 the they're doing the reviews for when the lieutenant tries 639 00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:19,839 to take over the show, and it was like the 640 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,839 review was and he looks at it and he says, 641 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:23,839 you stink. 642 00:31:23,599 --> 00:31:26,279 Speaker 4: Eat a bag of you know, such and such. Any guys, this. 643 00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:28,799 Speaker 5: Review is pretty explicit. They're not too much gray area 644 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,240 in that one. As soon as they got to that scene, 645 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,359 where all of a sudden, the Gael sitting there and 646 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,400 what are your deepest desires or urges? I'm just like, 647 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,240 that's pretty explicit. There's not too much grey area. They're 648 00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:41,880 they're going for what I think. And then I was like, 649 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:42,920 was this a TV? 650 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:43,319 Speaker 2: Like? 651 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,319 Speaker 4: What the heck is going on? So that was my reaction, 652 00:31:46,519 --> 00:31:48,279 And then then I knew what was going on. 653 00:31:48,319 --> 00:31:51,119 Speaker 1: And I'm wondering how many I'm wondering how many parents 654 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,200 in nineteen seventy eight, I wonder how many parents are 655 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,759 watching this with their kids? Hey, kids, Star Wars gather 656 00:31:55,799 --> 00:31:58,440 around the TV lest yeah, and then this scene starts 657 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,240 and the parents are like, no, play, what is kids? 658 00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:04,279 Why don't you go go get daddy another drink in 659 00:32:04,319 --> 00:32:06,920 the kitchen real quick? Let's leave the room. 660 00:32:08,079 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 2: I have I have heard from multiple sources that that 661 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,160 was their intention, the writer's intention, to make this softcore, 662 00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:20,119 soft core porn that they could get into a TV 663 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:25,160 show in prime time. And I've heard it from several places, 664 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,000 but I have not heard why why would you do that? 665 00:32:29,599 --> 00:32:32,720 What possible motivation could you have? 666 00:32:33,599 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 5: I was just gonna say cocaine, that's right, Yeah, it was. 667 00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:40,799 Speaker 1: It was one of the writers and producers was a 668 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,880 Mitzi Welch I think had said. I think she was 669 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,440 the one quoted as saying, yeah, we just we wanted 670 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,039 to try to get in some softcore porn into the 671 00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:50,000 as we want to see as far as we could 672 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,680 push it, Like, what could we get into this holiday special? 673 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,240 And I'm sitting there thinking, I'm reading this quote. I'm 674 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,920 sitting there thinking there are at least seven things wrong 675 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,640 with that sentence. How much of this can we get 676 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:07,240 into that holiday special? Yeah, okay, all right, based on 677 00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:08,359 a kid's movie. 678 00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:11,519 Speaker 3: But the funny thing is is I would say that 679 00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:13,960 that's not the worst thing about the special for me. 680 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,839 The nine and a half minutes of Wookies talking with 681 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,039 no subtitles. 682 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, right, which I can understand somebody says, no, listen, 683 00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:28,640 Chewbacca doesn't have subtitles, so the Wookie talk doesn't have subtitles. Well, yeah, 684 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,079 that's great, But Chewbacca always had someone with him who 685 00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:34,079 could respond in such a way that you knew what 686 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,359 he said. Nine and a half minutes of them running 687 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,599 around the house. And here's the thing, here's what we 688 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,720 found out. This thing was supposed to only be an 689 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,799 hour long, but when the when advertisers found out it 690 00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:50,440 was coming out, there were so many people begging to 691 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,240 be on board. They decided to stretch it to basically 692 00:33:54,319 --> 00:33:58,200 a two hour special. And that's why you have so 693 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:03,279 much time that you're just at the screen going what 694 00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:06,519 what in the world? Why would anybody want to watch this? 695 00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:09,039 Who thought this was a good idea? 696 00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: And I remember reading that they told George Lucas at 697 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,920 the time that because it was his idea to focus 698 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,599 it around Chewbacca's family, And I remember reading something somewhere 699 00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:23,639 that they're like, Okay, George, this Wookie's talking for extended periods. 700 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,480 It's not going to work. It's like, yes, Chewbacca can 701 00:34:26,519 --> 00:34:30,039 do it without without subtitles, but that's because Chewbacca is 702 00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:33,079 not standing there giving like Mark Anthony's speech from Julius Caesar. 703 00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:36,480 You know, he's not. It's not a soliloquy. It's it's 704 00:34:36,519 --> 00:34:39,719 he talks and Han responds or somebody else or C 705 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,599 three po translates or And from my understanding, like that 706 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,800 was that was almost the extent of George Lucas's participation 707 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,480 was to basically say, okay, fine do this thing, and hey, 708 00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:53,639 I think you should do it using Chewbacca's family as 709 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:56,280 the focal point, and that's just yeah, it's and it's 710 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,440 it's painful. It's painful in it, and it bothered me 711 00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:02,079 so much when I read. I was like, when I 712 00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:03,920 watched this for the first time, I didn't really look 713 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,760 up to see who, like the producers were, and the 714 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,599 and the costume design and everything else. And then when 715 00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:12,159 I did finally look that up, and I was like, good, 716 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,920 these Wookie costumes they look terrible, like Itchy just looks 717 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,199 like Archie Bunker version of Chewbacca. And the sounds are 718 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,119 just terrible in this. I mean it sounds lumpy every 719 00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:25,079 once in a while, sounds like you know when when 720 00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:27,519 et is kind of chittering and running around and doing 721 00:35:27,519 --> 00:35:29,400 that kind of stuff. And then I looked it up 722 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,000 and it's it's Stan Winston did the creature designs, and 723 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,559 it was Ben Burt did the sound, you know, from 724 00:35:35,639 --> 00:35:38,719 the Star Wars movies. And I'm sitting there going, what 725 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:39,800 happened to you guys? 726 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 727 00:35:41,039 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 1: Why did you let it? 728 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 2: Was? 729 00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 4: It? 730 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,039 Speaker 1: Was it the well? 731 00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? 732 00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:49,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they cow doing their nose during every commercial break. 733 00:35:50,639 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So so George Lucas had a little bit 734 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,639 of involvement with it. Before he had he had come, 735 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,000 he'd watched dailies and the original director was actually a 736 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,400 guy that went to USC with him. It was a 737 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:09,800 guy named David A. Coomba, And after like two days 738 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,440 of shooting he was like, I can't forget this crap. Yeah, 739 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,639 this is terrible. I can't get along with the producers, 740 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,519 and so they brought in this guy named Steve Binder. 741 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,400 Now Steve Binder had done a couple of really big 742 00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:25,599 like he did the Petula Clark TV special which was 743 00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:28,440 in nineteen sixty eight, which was a huge deal because 744 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,719 it was like she was singing a duet with Harry 745 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,639 Belafonte and touches his arm. It's part of the singing. 746 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,360 Well in nineteen sixty eight, apparently that was a huge 747 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,440 deal and people were like executives were like, we can't 748 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,880 show this in the South. People will lose their minds 749 00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:47,360 a white woman touching the arm of a black man, 750 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,960 And basically they did it anyway, and so it was 751 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,199 a bit. He was a big part of that, and 752 00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:53,679 then he was also part of the Elvis Presley sixty 753 00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:56,880 eight Comeback special, which was huge because nobody knew who 754 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,519 the crap? I mean, I said, I didn't recognize Elvis anymore. 755 00:37:01,519 --> 00:37:03,679 Sixty eight, he had lost all his fame and that 756 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,000 really was a big comeback special for him. But the 757 00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:11,079 only information that he got from George Lucas was the 758 00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:11,760 Wookie Bible. 759 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: That's it. 760 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,039 Speaker 2: That's all he had. That's just just the details of 761 00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:18,960 how they should look and behave, and that's all he's 762 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,599 got going for. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of 763 00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:24,159 talent involved in this show. It just didn't come together. 764 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,079 There was no real oversight. 765 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, George Lucas, I think I think you guys missed 766 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,119 the quality acting with the eyes, like you knew what 767 00:37:31,199 --> 00:37:34,800 she was feeling by the long, slow close up that 768 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,639 they held on her face for so long, like she 769 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,320 really missed and loved Chewbacca and she was she did. 770 00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:40,519 Speaker 7: You look at that picture? 771 00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:41,119 Speaker 2: I don't know why he. 772 00:37:41,119 --> 00:37:42,119 Speaker 7: Needs subtitles for that. 773 00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:45,159 Speaker 6: I mean, anybody who's hat there, you know someone they 774 00:37:45,199 --> 00:37:47,239 loved to identify, And I think that's what they're making 775 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,840 on As far as as far as John saying with 776 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,679 the costumes. Immediately, I did watch this with my seventeen 777 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,599 year old son, which was hilarious because it was kind 778 00:37:56,599 --> 00:38:00,039 of like he was excited about it first because I 779 00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:02,840 started watching it and then I said I brought it 780 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,280 up and he's like, oh really, there was a special 781 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,079 sum we started watch. I said, yeah, you're gonna sit down, 782 00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:07,920 you're gonna watch this. We start watching it literally on 783 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,079 the TV because we had pulled up through Apple TV 784 00:38:10,159 --> 00:38:12,039 or whatever. The quality looked really good, so we might 785 00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:15,039 have had the version that you had, but it looked 786 00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:17,199 like Doctorsaas from the Planet of the Apes. That was 787 00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:20,480 like lumpy, like a young doctor SaaS. And then if 788 00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:25,039 anybody's ever seen the Nairobi Trio from uh, what's his name? 789 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,079 The TV got Ernie Kovac's that's what it'sy remind him 790 00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:30,199 of you, you said, a cross between kind of Archie Bunker. 791 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:31,880 But if you look at the costumes, if you just 792 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,079 type in Nairobi Trio, black and white pictures might not 793 00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:37,639 look as good, but that mask, just his face and 794 00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:39,760 his lip, it just looked absolutely horrible. 795 00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:44,039 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was as wookies age their bottom lip grows. 796 00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 7: I like pulled up over it, like, yeah, yeah. 797 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,079 Speaker 4: You know what, I'm sorry. 798 00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 5: I just have a quick question, you know, Dennis, You 799 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,840 I'm curious you know some of the stuff we were 800 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,960 just talking about. You remember seeing this, and I guess 801 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,280 I'm curious, like, did at any point when you were 802 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,440 watching this did you get like this isn't like as 803 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,119 a kid, this isn't good, or like that scene where 804 00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:11,559 the Mystic Lady appeared out of the VR did that 805 00:39:11,559 --> 00:39:14,599 get awkward for you? And then flipping forward when you 806 00:39:14,639 --> 00:39:17,039 watch this with Hunter, did you bump on any of 807 00:39:17,079 --> 00:39:19,440 those things like, oh, this is not going the direction 808 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,719 that I want to like, If you don't mind me asking, 809 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:22,360 I'm just curious. 810 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:23,119 Speaker 7: Oh that's fine. 811 00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm honestly like I started watching it prior, 812 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,639 like a couple of days ago, like a few days ago, 813 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,760 on my own, and then when it got to the 814 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,199 weird bits and pieces, I was just like, whoa this? 815 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,239 I like, I'm not but I still for the podcast. 816 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,079 I need to watch the thing. I was like, all right, 817 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,400 So it was put on hold. And then when Hunters 818 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,159 sitting there watching it my son, it was we're eating 819 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,000 kind of dinner and. 820 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,039 Speaker 7: Watching this and as it's going is just looking at 821 00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:47,599 his reactions. 822 00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:49,639 Speaker 6: I mean, I knew what the expect already, like a 823 00:39:49,639 --> 00:39:51,199 lot of it, because I was like He's like, no, 824 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,960 this is weird, Like it gets weird, and it was 825 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,360 getting weirder and weirder. I will be honest, I can't 826 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,480 see that. I saw the whole entire version this time, 827 00:39:57,519 --> 00:40:00,159 because as this went on to keep him watching, I 828 00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:02,239 had to fast forward through any of the musical numbers 829 00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:04,840 get the head a little bit. I was like, all right, 830 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,800 people are singing and dancing, skip ahead a little bit. 831 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,639 All right, we're back with what that number is done. 832 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,400 And then we go into the so anytime it kind 833 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,199 of kicked into a musical number, we kind of like 834 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,559 we skipped a little bit ahead, but I did get 835 00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:17,079 enough of the weird you know that weird vibe too, 836 00:40:17,159 --> 00:40:20,519 but okay, yeah, and then the b Arthur song just yeah, 837 00:40:20,559 --> 00:40:22,039 I was just like, once we're out of that, that 838 00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:25,199 felt like a total Muppet song skit, Like I don't know. 839 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,679 That was bizarre and a little creepy with uh with 840 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,840 Harvey Corman coming in, I'm like, they really got Harvey 841 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,760 Corman to like play as many parts as they could 842 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,639 in this they like, I think he was the bulk 843 00:40:33,679 --> 00:40:35,159 of that million dollar budget. 844 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:35,159 Speaker 4: There, and. 845 00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 2: He was he was on just for who anybody who 846 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,440 doesn't know, Harvey Corman was on the Carrollbournett Show, which 847 00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:47,280 was one of those variety shows, and he was he 848 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,239 was the fourth funniest person on that show out of 849 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,960 a cast of five or six. Yeah. Yeah, he was 850 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,320 good in blazing saddles. Yeah, but my what I'd heard 851 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,480 is he was kind of a prima donna on that show, 852 00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:01,880 and so this was probably a Hey, I'm in the 853 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,719 New Star Wars special, Hahn, I'm pouring drinks in the 854 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,800 top of my head and be a forearmed cook. 855 00:41:09,079 --> 00:41:11,519 Speaker 6: One of the funny one of the funny things that 856 00:41:11,559 --> 00:41:14,119 we were saying, Like, as we're watching it, my son's like, so, 857 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,199 is this the first one? Is this the first one? 858 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,320 Like he was like thinking, was this before the And 859 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,599 I go, what do you mean the first one? He goes, 860 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,559 He goes, you know, the one was this before? Did 861 00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:23,920 this come before New Hope? And I'm like, this was 862 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,920 the first one. If this was the first one, there 863 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,039 wouldn't be a second one. 864 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, right, right, absolutely. 865 00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 6: There's no way anybody would have I think people I 866 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,400 will say that I would be interesting to see how 867 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,519 many people did stick with it for the whole time, 868 00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:38,920 because when he said that a lot of people would 869 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,880 have clicked off. I actually don't think so, because there's 870 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,239 enough clips of like the live action, and then when 871 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,360 you see Luke and you're you're just it kind of 872 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,480 keeps you just enough to where you're about to turn 873 00:41:48,519 --> 00:41:50,360 it off. But you're hoping that this is going to 874 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,519 get better and it's going to make sense. They give 875 00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:54,800 you enough of a little bit of Oh, Han solos 876 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,280 and it so he has we haven't seen him or 877 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,239 you know, like you're thinking someone else is gonna come 878 00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,639 in and make this better and it's all of a 879 00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:02,079 sudden going to take off, Like that's what you kind 880 00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:02,760 of keep thinking. 881 00:42:03,599 --> 00:42:06,079 Speaker 1: Well, and you say, you say, Han Solo is in it. 882 00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:09,199 But every time I saw Harrison Ford on screen, I 883 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,719 looked at his face. I'm like, I know that look. 884 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,559 I know that's the look my thirteen year old has 885 00:42:14,559 --> 00:42:16,000 when we have to sit on the couch and do 886 00:42:16,039 --> 00:42:19,519 the family zoom once a week. Be there, That's what 887 00:42:19,559 --> 00:42:20,159 that look is. 888 00:42:20,519 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 6: I was thinking, you know, how you want to be 889 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,760 killed off? I think this is the reason you wanted 890 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,639 to be character like this. Probably did it Like at. 891 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,280 Speaker 1: This point, look, look George, I'm George. I'm really excited 892 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,679 about the Empire strikes back, but you have to the 893 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,639 Holiday Special. I need you to kill my. 894 00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 2: Character, all right, everybody that does it for this part. 895 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,679 We're going to be back tomorrow with part two of 896 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,199 the Star Wars Holiday Special. 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