Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to Trask told E d.
Stember Temp Edition twenty twenty five. I guess I should
say I'm your host Travis now, and uh, I guess
I do say its trest. I don't know why I
felt weird, but here we are. What a what an
interesting day unfolding in the real world and whatnot. But
luckily that's what this show is for. Gonna have some fun,
Gonna talk today about some DCU news. I'm happy because
a couple of weeks ago, I guess I know it
was last week I had clay face set photos like
the main topic that was gonna be happening, and then
I had a bumpits we'll talk about that. We all
talk about our Dexter season rankings, because I promised to
do that last week and then or on Monday, and
then also Emmy predictions, and then some other movie news
as well. Anything I don't get to will be punted
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we can't redo them. I've always wanted to at some point,
maybe when we get a stretch gold next year. So
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I know it would sound very random, but one of
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we sat down for a day and watched the entire season.
That was tons of fun. So I would love to
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We used to do that for next year, like for
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So lots of good stuff happening here. A geek first,
but I hope I was doing well. Let's get into
the topics. Let's get me pull this up here. I
got a screen show, so clay faces been popping off.
You can go on Twitter and look at everything right now.
They got tons of set photos. I'm gonna I guess
I'll bring up the one I want to talk about now,
because I never know how the show goes, right because
sometimes with Patron and the chat, you never know how
long it's gonna be. So i'll bring up the meat
of it. But there's tons of stuff and i'll show
them all. But they've been filming for what about two
three weeks now, But yeah, there's tons of stuff out there.
As far as we're seeing the look of Gotham, which
I do appreciate it, and it's funny. This is why
I always say that we talk about the the Betier Scoopers, right,
And I've said that before where there's many situations where
we go, oh see, this is why because I and
it's no disrespecting because if anybody was even still listening
and put it when we do our yearly satisfaction surveys,
right and like, what do you like? What are you
not like what we're doing? Is there right to like
make that smaller? I don't know. I'm pretty small, which
is fine though, because my hair is not theory go
I'll bring it up bigger. My hair did not gnna
do it ran out of time. It's been a bit.
They said, oh, why do you cover like B and
C tier stuff? Just stick to the big news, And
I understood the perspective, but I always said, hey, we
do that because we've had so many times where the
bee tier stuff. I remember with that downy doomsday story
broke out, tons of people didn't talk about that, and
we did and then three days later broken was true. Right,
So you never know, but this is why I remember.
I think it might have been tras told you were
a newscast. I can't remember, but there was a B
tier rumor going around at some point but the plot
layout of Clay Face, and the rumor was that the
main movie was not taking place in Gotham. Now obviously
they were just shooting a portion of it there, so
there could be a situation where, let's say, the first
act or the inciting incident happens in Gotham, then they
move over. I don't want that because to me, that
sounds very so any more of like, well, we don't
want to put in New York, we want to put
it somewhere close to And I was like, no, no,
just just do Gotham. Okay, you know, just do New York.
And with this we'll see what happens. But even with
whatever portion we're gonna get with Gotham, so far we're
seeing a lot of it, and I will show some
images of that after. But there it's looking very foggy
and gloomy, which I love. There's it's not like super
brightly colored, but there's like a lot of lights and
some poppy stuff. Like I don't want it to be
like Joel Schumacher, but at the same point, I wanted
to have be Joel Schumacher and Burden where it feels
like very distinct, right. I think that Batman has a
bit of that, even though it still feels like very
much like a town that they've changed into Gotham. I
want Gotham and the DCU to be grandiose, something different.
I mean only seeing the comic books, right, So, but
there's a bunch of stuff we've seen stuff I'll bring
them after. But stuff with Penguin hinting at Penguin, hinting
at scionis in industries, which is I'm a massive Black
Mass fan. I loved them in Birds of Prey, but
that still wasn't the Black Mass. That was, like you McGregor,
a kind of doing a rift and they changed a
lot of stuff, which they change tons of stuff and
Birds of Prey, right, but I love that there's a
tan of stuff. There's all this good stuff. But what
is interesting now this is there's been three of these.
There was a Joker's spray paint I can't remember once
a Joker rules and some one said something else but
they both a joke related, so it's like, okay, fine,
But then there was this one, which I guess I
should point on before just even I guess like just
like we don't know when where to go, we don't
know what it means per se, right, but it's still
the fact of I'm trying to change with angles work,
but it's still the fact that I would assume that
this means the Joker, Black Mass Penguin. I think there
was another one that are villains that are already operating, right,
which I think. I think Gun has not tell me
if I'm wrong. I don't think he's ever clarified like
what year his Batman's in per se, but I think
we've all thought he's gonna be someone that's operating for
quite a while. Even the few things I say about
him in Creature Commandos, which i'd never finished with a
few things. I've actually never seen that Batman came. I've
just seen the image of it. I've never seen the
actual scene. But I think we assume that he's been
active for a little while now, especially too, I guess
right if they do end up doing the the Odd
brainon Bold, to me, that's at least two robins. I
know there might be more. It seems like it changes
every few months of this Dynamic Duo animated film if
it is and the DCU is not. The latest report
was because they got this new set of writers, and
I thought, Okay, they're probably rewriting to get in the
DCU because we'd heard that happen to Clayface, right. But
now the latest rumor from the rap, which is i'd
say be Tears, said no, it's they're writing it to
not be in the DCU. So I don't know. I
would prefer that, I think with there's just something weird
about it being in the animated film. First, I'm all
fine to spin that off. But and I do, don't
get me wrong. I know people out there, you know, Dookie,
he's somebody that's a listener, might not like when I
crap on Tim Drake. I like all the Robins, and
sure get Tim Drake in there. I do think if
you have to skip one, you can skip Tim Drake.
But I think at least with this, I I also
would not like them skipping Jason Todd because it's a
vital piece of Batman. But if you had to write,
if they weren't doing that, or maybe they'll just leave
it ambiguous for now, think about it later, Like you
have to do Dick Rayson and then you have to
do oh, they're doing Damian Wayne. But I mean, like
there has to be a Robin that predates Damien being Robbin, right,
like he is bringing up the or he's taking all
that mantle. And the other thing that works too is
because Dick is has similarities to Bruce, but it's so different.
So is Damien. But Dick, to me is sometimes like
the best version of what Bruce and Batman could be.
There's some things that he's maybe not as good as
Batman because he's not shut off as personally. But the
more lighter side, the more i'd say human side of
Dick Rayson is what Batman would like Shrivee be, where
Damien is sometimes completely cut off because he was raised
by assassins, right, So it's like he the first time
he goes out, Bill don't know what's in the common book. He's, hey,
here's your son. He's gonna be robbing. They go out,
everything goes well. It's like, oh, this is great. My
son kicks ass He's even better fire than me. He
had to do. That's great. And then he turns around
and say, oh look what I did, Dad, And he's
holding I can't remember the villain's name, but he's holding
the villain's head and he cut it off because where
when he comes from from Talian Roswald Ghoul like they
just murder people, right, So to me, that means this
world's being lived in. These characters are here, which is great,
which is interesting as far as so this image here
where it says corruption is the enemy of the people,
which you know we'll see because I put in the
headline do they want to do a political joker? Because
for X, Y and Z, I guess they probably do
in a sense because I said that was one of
my biggest pros for the Superman movie is the whole
Bravia whatever incident was obviously alluding to many real life
things happening now right where I feel even said in
Superman when they said, like I think Maxwell Lord says
like if you're yeah liberal or conservative, you don't like
Lex Luthor, which you'll never hear those words. I won't
say never, but you haven't heard those words at all
on a Marvel thing, right, like we've had so many presents.
They never said which aisle they are on. I give
them that credit. And that's where it's like, okay, if
because to me, this is a more if people are
wondering why even asking this or saying this, the corruption
is the enemy of the people. And then below it
says join the Joker. That is a fucking political ad.
That is like the same, whether it's on anti political right,
like someone that's a you know, I don't want to
say certain words to get the string taking down, but
you know what I mean, there's certain groups, whether they
are for you know, even like anonymous stuff like that, right,
and what I'm I'm completely fine with them touching on
political I think that's great. Right, there's world like real
world art done well can reflect on all of us
and make you look at things differently, or I think
it just can add some grandiose to the conversation that is, Hey,
this is just a beat them up comic book movie, right.
I don't think you're getting that in clay face, just
like what you know, cocktail Clay specifically, he was saying, oh,
like there's all this stuff, but it'll be like the
Sony stuff where you don't you don't see a lot
of these things, right, they're just easter eggs. I think
they're just setting up the world. I don't think you're
seeing black Mask or Joker. I'll show some of these
few of these other images before I here go to
They're gonna take a look at all my dms there
for a second. There's a bunch of stuff. So they
got Amusement Mile, which is a huge popu place in
Gotham that joker stuff happens and crime happens and it's
like a Cony Eley situation. This is where they got, yeah,
more advertised for Amusement Miles, so showing tons of stuff
that's joke related. The Penguin Man, he's looking, you know,
obviously that could just be a joke, but he's looking,
you know, a little more to form than as of usual.
There's the Joker rules thing, and then where is and yes,
I do sense if you're wondering, I do is just
send stuff myself for news. Yeah right, there's a black Canary.
Who knows what that is? This club I think it's
viv this is I'm not sure, but Zatana plays there
all the time. She's one of my favorite DC characters.
She's like a she's a magician, Like she like fakes
to be a magician, but she's actually magic, you know,
like just on the outside you think, oh, she's not real, right,
it was just the jokers, Yes, I honest. Industries I'll
see if I could try to find if I had
the look of Gotham. No, I don't have that. So
but my point is with Joker, and this thing here
is for the you know, oh god, now I've already
forgot what I rambled on about what it said there,
because I just want the specific term here. Let's see,
join the Joker. I don't know how I forgot that.
You got a literation going on, right, but for me,
and I'll bring this point to actually right now, Dan
Mikes's clay face wasn't creature in Romandos, so this would
have to take place a while before, probably early days
of Batman. Well, and that's the thing, you're right, So
if it's taking place early days of Batman and there's
already black mask, Penguin and Joker stuff around, what does
that mean when we get to our Batman right, and
even with that clay facing the way where he ends
up kind of joke playing video games. I'm very intrigued
how they're gonna handle that. But anyways, joined the Joker thing,
I don't know how I feel about a Joker being
that because my pitch was I always said, and people,
if your longtime listeners I apologize, but for a joker
and a joker too, the movie, right would be like,
oh well, even then when they just said, like, oh,
how could this Joker fight a batman? He so a
week nothing could happen. And I always said that the
way that first movie made him look like it was
in the vein of a Charlie Manson sort of realm. Right,
So it looked like a way where Okay, this Joker, sure,
you could just flick him and he's done, but you
got to get through all these guys to get to him. Right,
They could be doing that because the Joker always has goons.
Sometimes it's he just pays him a bunch of money.
He's busted out of the metal institution, and we don't know.
I'm not saying jokers going around putting up these flyers,
being like Joey, but it's interesting where to me, if
there's even a sense of any because to me, I
think for the I'm completely fine, that's what I want
them to do, and jokers folio do, which they did
like a little, but not really because jokers, I'm not Joker.
We had that whole subplot, right, I'd be kind of
fine of this else world Joker as far as the tale,
like he's so influential and maybe that's the point of today.
Like I feel like with lex there was a lot
of you know isms to uh, a little bit Trump
but more like Elon Musk, right, And maybe that's the
idea that they're showing someone this radical can get these followers.
But I feel like they just did that with Riddler, right,
Like in the Batman. I know it's not the same universe,
but they just did that with the Riddler where he's
radicalized and he wants to do all this terrible stuff,
but he has a bunch of literally social media followers, right,
So I don't think they should go that round. And
to me, the Joker, what I always would envision for
the DCU Joker, the overall that's gonna be the Joker
that goes for years and years, should be the chaos,
fear filling, just enigma. I think everybody should be scared
or worried about the Joker. I don't think the Joker.
I think you can have other characters in the Batman world,
Offuly Luthor in the DC world that are, hey, should
we follow this guy? Bud. He makes this great point
even though he's a bad guy. Maybe we should follow
him and are yeah, he's right, even though if those
people are misguided right, like many people today fall many
people that are misguided in the political view right, but
for whatever reason, it works for them. I don't really
want that with Joker. I want just that overlooming evil.
It doesn't matter if you're right, left in the middle,
you believe in God, you're an atheist, The Joker is
a scary individual. I still and I don't know if
this would counteract that. I still hope the Joker in
the DCU is you know, bright, shiny, colorful like to me,
the Joker should look pretty and gorgeous in a way,
but then the insides be ratten. I'm so over and
I don't get me wrong. I love The Dark Knight,
my favorite movie. He fledges to me, I don't care.
I peop will call me bias because I love the comics.
That to me is the single grace performance of all time.
There's a couple other you could are you answer, sure?
But for me, that just is a character that is
come to life and moving and functioning on its own,
even though yes, there's an actor behind the paint. But
I don't even see he've led your in that, right,
that that created the dynamic shift of making ugly Joker
or disturbed Joker or fucked up Joker like the paint
wore paint in the mask and the scars. Ever since
we got then, and even Jared Leto's Joker, you could
like say, they're trying to do that, but then they
to me mess it all up with like the look
of it. They went too far, and even the director said,
we went too far in some stuff, right. I would
very much like to get back to a Jack Nicholson
Joker because we've only had that once in live action.
The guy okay again, Letto had that is tough. So
you have to check me in my bis because I
really personally do not like that Joker. But even then,
that Joker is a take, right, It is a version
of the Joker that's very different. I might be boring,
but I do just want the comic classic looking Joker,
the clown or the you know, the clown Prince of
Uh said BAYI is the clown Prince of Goth. I'm like,
I want that back. We only got with Jack. I
don't think we got let out because even in Snyer's
Justice League. He's back to being gross and ugly, his
smiles like Ronnie's got the hair. It's all greasy and
green it always and joke walking Bean's joker is like painting.
It's more like Rubby and stuff. Right, So we don't
and again, what do they do with Reeve's joker? Like,
we don't know how much they're gonna use him. But
I love Barry. I really hope. I don't think we're
gonna get the Batman three. I hope I'm wrong, and
my worries of Barry Keyan is not going to be
in part two that much. I think Barry Keyan, I
said when he was cast, is an inspired choice and
could be I'm not gonna say better than Ledger because
you know we didn't do that with Jack, but he
could be. I'll say it this way. He could be
a top ten villains for comic book movies, which is
you know, not like a you're like, oh, is that
some big award? But to me, because we've gotten so
many like he could give a performance that is so
unique and so good. I think Barry when they cast
I'm like, man, that is there's so many people you
could jump to you like I always see like Bill
scar which, don't get me wrong, I'm more on board
now after I've seen All the Rain She's done a
couple of years right after Penny Wise. It's like the
Brandan Scalar thing where it's like, okay, who are your
top three Google fan casts that look like the Joker
and make it that guy right? Well, Barry, that was
inspired casting, you know, even to be like Paul Daniels
the Riddler. You looked like, oh kay, I could see that.
You would see that on a fan cast somewhere Barry. No,
and the thing that sucks with Barry. Very good looking
guy with different features but very distinct. He could have
been a pretty Joker, not getting a pretty Joker right.
It's where I really want that and I but I don't.
And to Mike's point of view, we need a live
action version of animate series Joker. Absolutely. We need the banggun,
we need the gadget. There is someone because there was
like a back and forth I saw yesterday. I was
look at my timeline and there was a click going
round of in Arkham Night where Joker jumps off a
building but he pulls a parachute and of course, it's
like branded. And the first tweet was kind of making
fun of it, and then the quote tweet that was
popping off that was on my timeline trending was like,
like you're telling me with the straight face, you wouldn't
want this, Like I do want that. I want that
Joe or yeah, why does he a Brandon Merch? I
don't know where did this come from? I don't know.
I think you can still, just like the animated series,
make him scary. I think you have to tone back
how kitty that show could be right, because there's times
where it's like Batman could make a joke with joke like,
I don't want that. It shouldn't be that amount. He
should still be scary and a force to be reckoned with,
but that aesthetic in that version. That's why the same
thing too, I don't want unless they're gonna go back
and do it. I don't want Margot Robbie Beck as
Harley Quinn purely characterized performance wise, she's great. She to
me is a top I'll be safe and maybe this
would be trastory, I say top five or top ten,
but I think she's a top five comic book performance
character overall, I give more points to her to like
a heath to a Hugh Jackman, more than I do
to a Downy or Reynolds, because they're playing themselves a
lot of the time, right, I give more credit to Margaret.
Robbie does not act like Harley Quinn on the daily basis.
Ryan Reynolds is Deadpool Manytimes, and that's fine. You can
say that as a perfect on screen casting. I get that,
But for the acting, it's like, that's where I give
it a little more credence, right So, But for me,
I want the Joker in Harley. And I'm not saying
Harley can never break off and do her own thing.
Absolutely let's get there. But I want to see that happen,
you know. I want to see the evolution that I
don't want to just start with, oh, she's broken from
the Joker. So I would very much like that to happen.
That's what I worry with joining the Joker, that it's
gonna be some political take or some slant, which everyone
knows I'm all down for. I just think the Joker
might not be the character to do it. Two face.
To me, that's a character where you could do that
in the Batman World. Alviously they just did it with Riddler, right,
there's other characters Joker I just don't want. Now, if
it's something where I don't know, it's kind of like
Homeland and the Boys. Even then that's political because he's Enforcate,
but there's a way where it's like people want to
join him, but he doesn't really care about them. But
I don't. I don't even know, because that's riffing on
what they did with Joker, right, because when he send
there a de Naro, the Walking Phoenix version, and they're like, oh,
so you're started those riots in the streets and his Joker,
Arthur flex like, no, i don't care about any of that, Like,
I'm just wearing this for a different reason. So already
done that type of Oh he's inspired a group of people,
but he's not used them. I guess they could do
what I'm saying for Joker too and just do that.
Maybe he is just using the people. It's just like,
what are they going to do? Because obviously in Walking
Phoenix's Joker that was a very lower class people have
been kicked down upon. Eat the rich concept, right, I
don't again, I don't want the DCU Joker to be
eat the rich concept, like I don't. I just want
to be fucking Robin Banks or trying to destroy Gotham
or trying to get a Batman. Whether it's being love
with them killing, I don't know, but I just it
does make me a little worried. Now again, we don't know.
Maybe this is an off st maybe And here's the thing,
this could literally have nothing to do with anything. This
might not even be in the FN movie. It might
just be like, hey, just make some stuff and someone
put join the like okay, cool. I just think gun
would go, hey, that's maybe not gonna work for what
we're doing here, so take that out. And it could
just be like, let's say I liked a very bad person.
I just made posters show on the Joker, right, and
then maybe one time there is this cult like for
the Joker and he finds him and he's like, yeah,
I suck like and he kills all those people, right,
Like That's where I was trying to get what the
Homelander aspect of he will use them, so there is avenues.
I just want them to be careful. I want that
type of Joker. I do want to have some fun
with this Joker. I'm not saying you can't have any
character arcs or moms like that, but that, to me,
you can get all with the bat family, especially if
we do live in a world where he's killed Red Hood,
He's killed Jason Todd and becomes Red Hood. I know
everyone want that. With the Snire films, we didn't get there.
I do think if you can adapt that, well, that
is a potential top ten combook live action movie, a
Red Hood one. And that's it right there. Granted, like
you could say, oh, does that cover some like the
Joker Dark Knight stuff of trying to get him to kill. Sure,
but that's been a minute in the Batman. Obviously he
enforces he doesn't kill, but it's not like a huge
main story point. It comes up a few times they
stop slinging it, right, But in the Dark Night, that's
like a driving focus. That is a Joker's goal to
make this guy snap, and even it means killing Joker himself,
he wants them to do just to see and he
could say that I pull it off, right, So I
think you you can get there. This is a whole
different dynamic. And again with Damian Wayne, if they adapt
that that's where that works too, because he kills a
guy and I was like, no, like, I know that's
how you're trained, but we don't, you know the black
panther me. We don't do that here, you know, so
oh excuse me? So for me, I just I don't know.
I hope this isn't I'm just reading into stuff, that's
all I'm hoping. Because the other stuff, joker rules whatever,
that's fine. I'm all fine for a gang henchman, and
I'm fine if that's way. Maybe if he does use
it in way just to get the sick and he
becomes like, I guess, a big figure, I don't know.
I guess I just have to see who are the
group of people joining him per se right, and how
the angle it And as I said, this could be
literally nothing, but that's what we do here, especially if
dress told you we reading the topics that I ran about,
because then in two years from now, when we start
to see like the d huge like doing a purple
green parody on the Obama post or then I go, yeah,
we're we're doing it. And I don't like that. A
man I very much would love. I guess I can't
say that, right, I've been spoiled. I love Shack, I
loved the animated series, and he Fledger is to me,
obviously not the comic accurate, but to me a perfect
representation and evolution of the Joker. To me, that is
the best version, even if it is the type of
face and style I don't like. I just thought they
did such a good rendition of that, right, So maybe
I shouldn't be greedy because I didn't love obviously less
Phoenix I did really like, but then the second one
did kind of take that down for me because it
was comment down things in the first one, and then
with Barry it's a wait and see. But I still
don't like. I don't love the look. Obviously they could
change it because I was just the lead scene, but
I don't love the concept of it so far, even
though I did like Matt Reeves's explanation of he was
born this way, so his whole life he's had these
people laughing at him and snickering and making fun of him,
so kind of in turn takes a joke on itself,
turns it against other people and hurts them, I assume, right,
So let's see what some folks here some patrons said,
image is basically the scene. I don't know what that was. Detail,
you can tell me after If I don't know, I
wonder if they will directly mention or not to Batman
and not just Wayne references. I think so. I think
that hmm, like you said, Aaron, Wayne is a that's
a gimme that's gonna happen. I think they do. I
don't think you see Batman here. I don't think it's
a good idea to debut Batman. Like, don't get me wrong,
I think there if you could somehow keep it secret
and not just like show anything, there is a fun
moment to be had of a Batman debuting a movie,
and we have no idea. That's the only way I'd
kind of be down for. If they're gonna keep it
a secret, I'm sure that would be the attention. But
I think probably for business wise, it's not best to
debut him there if he is already a thing. Could
he be in there? Sure? But Detail says the images
of Batman and the creature's commands was basically the scene. Okay,
thank you, Yeah, I was talking about that earlier. Yeah,
And that's why I never rushed to watch it, I
kind of got spoiled, and you know, so that's why
that scene he looks down runs away. Cool. So no, okay,
thank you for clarifying detail. But yeah, Erin, I think
they will nod or direct men, and I just don't
think you'll see him other than if it's a silhouette,
if it's like creature Coremando's shirt. But I don't think
you get the actual guy. I would actually maybe maybe
people wouldn't like this as well, and maybe I'm shooting myself,
but I actually wun't mind if Bruce Wayne was in
that and then not that, like not Batman, but uh,
I digress. Superscists. I like the idea of a bunch
of henchmen who regularly switched to which villain they swerve
based on whose power and non Arkham that time. Absolutely,
I think you like Mike. I think you're like me
where you grew up on the animated series. I think
the animated series had like isms of that. Even the
Arkham Games had isms of that, of like whoever was
top notch the henchman just went away. I'm completely down
for just some dun henchmen because I'll say, even politically
on both sides, right, you just have people that no
matter what will follow, cause no matter who the leader is,
they will change like, oh, you know could say this,
this is this, But if they're on our team, doesn't matter.
I'm on percent for them, you know. I think with
hint like there is, there is like a people politically
have become Hencheman in a way. Right, So let's see
a poster on the wall, post on the wall of
Batman like Morrius. Let's not get that. I don't think
you will see him until they do have a cast
or a real script because they also want to make
sure like what he looks like, because even the silhouette,
it's just like a big dude, Right, Aaron says, I
think we'll get the Batman Part three, but it'll probably
won't come till two thousand and three, two, two thousand
and thirty three. I hope you're right. I've always said
that I think part two is safe. Part three to
me is so much could change, man, like between Matt Reez,
between James Gunn between even just last week there's rumors
again that warmbads can get sold right to the same
extent I've had right where I've said I like what
and the whole thing all because the good thing about
most of these Easter eggs. I might be reading too
much into the political joker thing, but what I like
is if things are seemingly going well, if you have
all these DCU uh East eggs and everything, I know,
they're probably gonna lead to somewhere, which is good to see.
We're before, like especially just joked about the Sony ones
never were right, the old DCEU ones we weren't sure
about right, like there was a Riddler question mark on
the wall in BBS, but alsoe that didn't go anywhere
right so or even the suit we never got to
see that full joke er Batman dynamic, right. So that's
what I like about this. My whole thing about Warner
Brothers is if they get bought. I've always said what
if they look at James Gun said, oh, change this
to this, what if they come in? And even Zazov
has been like, I really just want one Batman running
around da da da. We don't know. Maybe they're gonna
make the reason once and wait on the DC Batman
ring convinced them. Who knows? What if they sell Apple?
And what if Apple just says yeah, we only want one,
So tell Reeves that if he wants part three, he
has to be an ECU or he's out. I know
people might be like, oh it's a success, they will
bug around. There are a litany of examples, i'd say,
at least i'll say sixties and now of movie studios
and producers and movie heads that are dumb and that
are just like they think this is a great idea, right,
Like look at sir Chumps and soup right and they
will be both head and diet Apple. That just for
so and even what if he just hates the what
if he saw the Batman didn't like He's like, we
know this, so what if he's just like, no, don't
do this version. That's what I mean. Like, there's so
much that can happen if w sold how these movies
do same thing. What if The Batman two comes out
and after all this time, maybe the break is help type.
What if it doesn't. What if people have kind of
forgote or they're over it and it performs a lot
lesser than two, and it performs lesser than Superman. You
could have James Gunn and Saffron and be like, you
know what, thanks Matt But with the success or lack
thereof of the second one, we just can't and good
willing go forward with this when we're gonna do a Batman,
we don't want to saturate that market. That Batman's gonna
be in Superman movies, he's gonna be in the Justice League,
he's gonna have a whole bunch of energy to him.
Your Batman's just alone, Like there's so much that can
change eron. So I I'm just telling everybody, I'm taking
this as this is and enjoying this. This is the
last time, and there's no evidence for that other than
just you know, my conspiracy theories. I'm doing that so
I'm prepared for the absolute worst. I did that with
this film that sometimes like we might not ever forget it,
and see that's happening. So now I'm happy. So if
it happens, that's for me. I've said this before, if
the same, and I have history to back me up
here when WB did a Joker movie and then they
announced Jared Lettle was coming back for Snyder Cut and
I actually liked that scene of him Snyder Cup. But
before that happened, I remember everybody, whether it was like,
like I said, didn't know Vodkas stream people, but people
in like Gua or people like around that that know
of me and know that I don't like Letto end listeners.
But oh you hate this, this is gonna suck, right, I said, No,
I just got the Phoenix Joker. I can't be greedy.
I love that movie, love that performance. If they want
to bring Lettle back for the Snyder cut, sure have
at it. So the same way, if Gunn lets reeves
complete this trip, I'm really not gonna have much to
say to gun negatively. I will, of course critique projects
to say this doesn't work, and even if the DCUs
doesn't end it for me, I'm not gonna go hard
on it because it's like, man, you kind of stuck
to your your word or your guns, right, And I'm
not saying he has to and I'm not saying, oh
if he if batt and three doesn't happen, I'm reviewing
everything negatively. No, I just take everything a lot more
with the grain of salt. Right. But for me, as
far as a personal fan, especially when he says we
want to do else, worlds that call, hey, we can
do the DCU, which whether you like or not cool,
and we're gonna do separate films that could be for you.
That to me is the vision, the dream, the goal.
So we'll see. But yeah, I hope that's not the case.
It goes. We will go from there. All right. Let
me pull up the Emmy nominations because the decks because
that went longer than I planned there. But let's see
deck stra I can rat off quickly because obviously I'm
still going to talk about but obviously I've given that
before and the news that I had might not let's see,
uh might be bumped to next week. We'll see, and
let's see. I know I just said that five times.
Oh s bubs. He said. Thoughts on the Superman Lex
team up Man tomorrow and who could be bigger threat
they're facing, I will say, because lack of time, that
was last week the full episode. The quick thing is,
I absolutely love that pitch. I love the idea that
if it's more from Lex perspective, we've never really got
a movie from a villain's perspective and the heroes active.
I think it's brainiac and that idea. I love the
trope of Superman and Lex. Oh sorry, I love the
trope of bad guy and good guy having a team up.
That's one of my favorite common movies. So that's all
double thumbs up for me for James Gunn. But yeah,
I did do that episode last week, and I think
I talked for like twenty five minutes. That's a full
version right there. Mike said, which I mean, now, nominated
shows or actor would be the happiest to see win something.
Also wishing nominated shows. You haven't seen your morals cures
about checking out? Well, answer that now, I guess for
me because I'm so bad on TV. I used to be.
I used to for maybe not so much comedies, but drama.
I watch everything and that like Dexter, Bring Bad, mad
nan Era. I knew all of it, and I think
it just eventually I ran out of time. Luckily my
you know, I work from home some sometimes I can
put some stuff on. My plan is to ketchup, like
on stuff like Zeveran's and uh god, what's that show?
The show with all the billionaires or a family there succession?
There you go, like, I got to ketchup on a
bunch of them. Luckily I've seen some here. But to
answer your question, like what I'd want to win the most.
I will say these are all addictions I can't. I
am a subscriber of when people say this shouldn't have
won the Best Picture, and I go, oh, what should
have won? Well, i've only seen two. Well you don't
get opinion like I can't. I can look at this
and say I would love and Or to win, right,
And that's who I'm rooting for because I love that series.
I thought that something to start Wars needed. But I
can't tell you that should win because I've not seen
the Pit. I've not seen the Diplomat. I've not seen Paradise.
I've not seen Severance. I'm not i've seen Sohos. I'm
not seeing a white lotus. So that's why I didn't
have it. But I can quickly go over the mic
to think what I could win and won't win. But
that's why I can't say, oh, what should win? And
she's like, oh, I'd like to see and Or. And
as far as the shows that I want to watch
the most, it is Severance because I've heard of my alley.
I just haven't had time to stuff that I watched
the first time. I like to not watch while i'm working.
Most of them. When I'm working, it's it's background stuff.
It's like, right now I'm rewatching Hannibal, which is not
a background show, but like I've seen it many times,
so okay, cool, right, or a movie, so that's the thing.
But yeah, so probably would be Severance. But who's gonna win.
I don't know. That's a tough one between the two
of them. I don't it's definitely not Last of Us,
and I don't think it is, and or I think
it's a combo of Severance's end Pit. I'm just gonna say,
I may say, I'm gonsa say the Pit. I feel
like it has a bit more heat on and a
bit more people, you know, being excited for it. So
are you all reviewing gen Vien? We are going to,
as we've said, make sure you listen. Episode we're for
sure gonna do next week is the episodes that are
one to three. We're gonna review that batch, and then
maybe four after that. We have a certain number that
we because it's just me and Taylor, and those reviews
are super hard, not super hard, but they're harder when
we have so much going on up until about i'd
say after Extra Life, our schedules are packed. December is
pretty quiet, but even then, now it's like it is
coming out and then we're gonna have fallout. So we
have Me and Taylor I have talked about it that
if we we're gonna see how those numbers do. And
the thing is like they can, like luckily we haven't
had anything in a while like just bomb do completely bad, right,
But if they're not to a certain amount, we might
do batch of episodes or mini reviews in the future.
So we're gonna see because we never know. Alien Earth
is our biggest series of the year. I would have
never thought that so, and I'm not saying it has
to hit those numbers, but to me, it has to
hit a certain amount of numbers. It's like kind of
like what Peacemaker and well, if it's doing Alien numbers,
definitely be there. But Peacemaker and maybe even like last
off and stuff. Dexter was tough because Dexter said, like
that was like an up and down as far as
like some of the supposed to do really well and
some okay good, but like another But it's just like
a matter of us being busy. We're happy with the
Patreon producers, but with people going on there, they get
to pick a movie that those are additional episodes, right,
we have other retros that we already have promised throughout
the year and everything. We're starting to record content for
next year, so we're for sure gonna review at least
probably about four episodes. It's just a question of how
well they do, because if something does like a little lesser,
we might just have to go, like, we've got other
stuff to record, Like there's some days we're got all
five days recording and sometimes they're doubles, right, but we
are reviewing and well the discord, we'll still be talking
about it. And even then this would be the thing
about if we didn't review them all, me and Tay
would probably do like a end of the season show,
like review the whole thing. So we'll talk about it
in some sense and stuff. But April says the pitch
should win some glad of that prediction. I just thought
it had just the hood spot and I feel like
Severence was a bit more Best comedy Series. I will
say my answer for anything it's nominated for the studio,
I think the studio is gonna clean up everything it
cleaned up at one like nine at the Creative I
just think it is the perfect combination of it's very unique,
it's very funny, and it has a bunch do with Hollywood,
which usually that stuff wins. Right, So best Limited Series, Sorry,
Penguin Adolescence is taking that, Mike. I'm not gonna read
off all the nominies because I'm running a time today.
I you know, it's just the way it happens sometimes.
But I got this, look at this article Hollywood Reporter.
Actually i'll screen share. My thing was this the slippery
truth about conjuring last Rites and the rain War. And
it's like, yeah, a lot of stuff might not be,
you know, accurate, but you know that's the thing that's
gonna happen. But yeah, I'm gonna watch the Pit later
on this year because Emily, I think it's gonna watch
fall Out season one. I'm gonna watch that, and then
we're gonna watch the new seasons together. I'm sharing the
first showing Oh my god, I'm sharing the wrong screen.
You're hang on a second. Let me get the right
screen to share here, imman nominations, Sarah go. So if
you're watching, you got that. If not, you can pull
it up and whatnot. Let's see. Best television movie, probably
Rebel Ridge, but I would love Oh my God, I
would love I can Helm All Report. I would love
Bridge Jones Mad About a Boy to win. That one
surprises me. A big time, big reality competition program. I
don't know. I'm gonna skip these ones because I don't know
about Let's get to the actual main ones here. Best
actor in a drama series. I think Noel Wiley's gonna
take that. I think he's having a big comeback, and
I think people are really happy that know' Wiley's back.
Best actress in a drama series. That one's kind of
up for grabs, I feel like, because I don't feel
like I have people that have said a bunch of stuff,
I'm gonna just throw my love and say Carrie Russell
the Tipple mat. But I've only seen one of them,
So there you go. A best supporting uh dramas like
these are ones I can't for dig Mike is like,
it's just like it's Severn's and White lotus. Who do
you pick? It's like, I don't I really don't know.
I guess I would pick Sam rock Well because he
made that big speech, even though it's weird Heason supporting.
I don't know. A best actor in a limited anthology series.
That's tough because it's like Stephen Grant or Colin Fair
I think of the two. I'm gonna give it to
Colin Farrow just because he's in that series more than makeup.
Best Drama. And that's the problem with these acting categories,
like the guest and the all the supporting. It's all
like just White Lois and Paradise, which is like, if
you don't watch those shows, you feel left out, which
I want to watch them, and Emily want to watch
White Lotus and yeah, just white loads we've been talking about.
But or what did I say. I didn't say Paris.
I meant White Lotus and Severn. So yeah, I can't
really I can't really predict those ones. So I'm sorry,
Mike there on those ones. Best actress in a drama series, Oh,
best guest actress. Yeah, that's tough. That's this show's like
how much Little TV I watched, Mike, You know, so
best comedy series, best actor, that's like Severalgan for sure,
best actress maybe he or Ao for the Bear. I
don't know. I know Gene's smart, for Hacks, right, because
that's a big battle right now, is to stew and
the hacks. Like I think everything the studio doesn't win,
Hacks is gonna win. So this is all good. Yeah? No, I,
like I said, I got to catch up because I
would like to be in a realm where I could
know what's happening. And there's times where most of these
shows I want to watch the bear I fell, I
fell off of I we will try to get back
to it. I just we even fell off season two,
and I've heard season three is not as good as
season four. Right, So bise, I gave you my my
big ones, you know, so go from there. The Dexter
season rankings, I said I would do this after Dexter
had ended. So let's take a look here. I did
not write them down, but I kind of know them
off by heart. So let's do this. I said this
on interview. I have to do it. Dexter new or not? Sorry,
what is a Dexter resurrection? I got a rank at
last for me. I've said this before. It's like the
suicide got twenty sixteen. I said this on the penultimate episode.
There are some movies that are were made worse and detailed.
No spoilers, don't worry. This is gonna be just a
quick I'm gonna rank them. I'm gonna do listener questions.
I don't think we're gonna talk about that the movie
news like the Conjuring, Drastic World, no spoilers whatsoever. So
it's just a pure ranking. All I'm saying is that
with Dexter Resurrection, the bigger choices they made were so bad.
That's what hurt it. It is technically better made and
better acted, and i'd say even better ridden for the
most part than the ones that will precede it after
like the you know, I don't even know how many
there are, so I'm just gonna give you the ranking.
But i'd say the next two to three above it
probably are worse on a technical level. But for me,
the big swings just hurt so bad that I can't
I can't actively that. It's it's stuff like Jared Lew's
joke right choice, where it's like I that was just
like execute Parley, you know, all rounds. It's funny we're
talking about them all today. But yeah, so I got
Dexter Resurrection at the bottom. I think that's stuff that
it where new Blood helped the original series after a
rocky road, this brought it right down. It made it
even worse because in detailed, this is no spoils. It's
just that they are doing very similar storylines with Dexter
that they've already done. He is evolving, having character arcs
he's already had. They because they had nothing more they had.
They ended the show twice. You end the show twice.
That's it, Like you're you're out of endings. But now
it's like, well, what do you do when it's like
New Game plus plus? You know, so eleven total sins
seasons with Original Sin. Thank you very much, Mike, So
speak of Original Sin number ten. I got Original Sin
that's to a lesser degree, but similar things of prequel
itis where it does things that, eh, I didn't really
like that. I'll just say this is not spoiled for
you detail because you're watching, like the Astraik Killer, they
start to put him in areas in the prequel that
I think this is too close to home. This is
too close to Dexter, like he literally had I don't
think you this is at mynor spoil, but like he
talks to Dexter Dexter doesn't know who he is. He's
just some random guy that coffee shop. But it's just
like I don't like that, or he has scenes with
Harry and sinse that I just there's some big, grandiose
stuff that happens on a rooftop. And again it's a
mixed bag where I really like a lot of the
actors in there. I think Gibson did like a pretty
good job. I think the actress that played Deb diffhenomenal job.
But then the people that Rod and cast Harry had
no idea who that character was. That's not Harry Morgan,
not at all. That that is not the same guy
through through what I know of him. Right. So that's
why Original Sin and Resurrection get those two bomb slots
for me, because they just hurt the cannon and the
lower and the character arcs that I think they you know,
went on before. They just And it's strange because it
was both seasons the original show runners that were either
part of it or show running it, and it's like, what,
this is your own work, Like why can't you just
watch the show again or remember what you wrote and
don't do that? Right? Like it's just odd. It feels
like we're in that space just trying to get a
buck from Dexter. Right, and then after this this is
a very tough thing, right, because me and Mike and
John were talking about this in discord the debate because
the next two seasons are either season six and eight.
For me, I could make a case for one way
or the other. I'm going to put eight next. Eight
has that's the terrible ending, right, that happens. They do
some very bad things with major characters. Not cannon bringing
like the other ones, but just choices we're we're going
with the ending of the show. Hey, I do think
the brain surgeon is the worst big bad ever. Now
Mike said, oh do we come? Is a big bad.
That's how bad he is. He does things, he kills
multiple characters. He is the character that Miami is looking
for like other seasons, he is that character. He is
the big bad and he's utterly forgettable. And the payoff's
not good at all. The finale's not good at all
if there's so much egregious stuff in there. But then
yes would be number six. Doomsday Killer is not great.
I thought had some potential there. The only reason I
have six a little higher is because that's what's the
best way. Okay, here's this is a big spoiler. Detall,
there's one episode where Dexter goes to a high school
reunion that is tons of fun. That to me, I
wouldn't say it's a top ten or, but it's up there.
It's a really good time. It's a perfect combination of
like that lighthearted, just kind of side quest episode, Dexter moment.
And then I'll say that Dexter the road Trip. If
you've seen Dexter, that episode is fantastic. That's like an
endgame episode, like it ties multiple seasons together. What they
do for that moment is something I've been asking for
a while. I think you could have got a whole
season with what the with the guests st are in
that episode. You could have got a whole season of that,
and season six would have been so much better if
that was the case. Also, they did some of that
again Resurrection, which I hated that they just again did
not go fully four. So that's my reasoning, Mike, that
I think they are equally bad. I just think the
brain surgeon is just the lowest tier. So that happens,
and then at least with season six, I have two
episodes where I go, oh, I really enjoy those two,
where with eight, I really don't have anything, you know,
I don't have that single soul episode then fin of it.
I'm not a big fan of Loon. I think for me,
it's the timing of it. I think there's a lot
of stuff that they had with an arc with Rita
and then this kind of counteracts that. But I still
a good season now, Like to me, it's like Original
Sin and Resurrection are like low low tier and then actually, no,
I'd say six and eight those are a bottom of
the barrel, right, this is like the middle portion. Detail
says I've taken a pause on season six, so yeah,
I won't say anything. Well I didn't, so you're good there.
But season five still good season. I think that's when
the road starts to get rocky. But the premiere is
really good. I think there's aspects of the illumin stuff
that's good. Giantly Miller is good. Yeah, and I liked
it was a different you know, it was like a
band of bad guys. I thought that was good than
just the one off. And I thought it was good too,
because they are like serial killers, but not in the
sense of they're just killing a bunch of people because
of the bad thing they're doing. They're not like being
a rich they are, but like you know what I mean,
where it's not like the Trinity Killer, the Skinner, the
Ice Struck Killer, Bay Harbor Butcher, Like, that's where I
appreciate that. And then season seven which is next, which
I can't remember his character's name, but Ray Stevenson, he's
a bad guy and my sports but he just plays
like he's a Russian hitman. And that's why I love where. Okay,
he is a killer like Dexter, but it's a different
type of killer, right. And even Hannah, she's not a
serial killer per se. Right, So that's why I do
like about five and seven because I'm fine there being
a serial killers a direction I wasn't find with it,
but you know how they do it, right, I I
get that with this being like how come Miami has
like fifteen zero killers like that are actively like leaving
crimes doing all this stuff, it just felt like a
little unbelievable, right, So that's where John Lee Miller and
the season seven ones were refreshing. But yeah, Season seven
to me is a great season. That was a refresher,
I'll see how we get there were Dexter Debs a
little eh, but the I'll say, because details in the
Shad and other people, that story with Dexter and Deb
is a big high light throughout the whole season, a
big highlight. I think that's some of Jennifer Cartner's best stuff.
I like the Hannah stuff's really great. There's altso of
great dynamics there so and the finale really good finale.
And again it was a finale where they were fine,
like Dexter that has a character moment. Here we are
Dexter Resurrection, which is like so many years later, and
he's like like he's unevolved, like he's gone through the
stuff and it feels like it's a different guy. He's
been mind wipe right. Sough, my bad bank said five
got really screwed. After being such a high with four,
I agreed to extend. I think it also got screwed
because I think obviously Clyde Phils he stepped Awa because
his wife got sick. So I just thought there was
like a big gearshift as well too. I've always said
this before, like there was just and I think it
became more humous in a bad way. I know because
Detol he's listening to my retrospectives and they just mentioned it.
I will never forgive them that premiere when Musuka makes
that joke Brida, that for me was like, Oh, you
writers don't understand this show. You don't understand this character.
It was to me egregious and I think the show
and even then there's like that whole scene with Masuka
when he's talking about, oh, I know what happens, like
a big sex perfect thing, like they went too hard
on some aspects, but uh, and then the top five
you got new Blood. I think that was a great ending.
I don't think it was perfect. I think there were
aspects that were rushed, but I love just dexter, you know,
trying to live this, you know, different life. That Harrison
aspects were good, some minor spoils detail, so maybe skip
had like three seconds, but I'll move along. But new Blood,
I'm a big defender of new Blood, and I think
that was the actual what's happening now is fan fiction
to me. New Blood is like the that's the ending now.
When I watched the show, because I haven't missed any
order right where I watch, even though I like to
watch season seven, so I might I now watch seasons
one to four and the season five premiere, and then
I jumped in New Blood because I think it actually
kind of works in my opinion. There's a few things
you missed, but for the most part, it works. New
Blood to me, it was a perfect ending for the
Dexter character, perfect ending for a show. No got a
little rush, got a little messy, but Clancy Brown was
a great villain. You know, tons of good stuff there.
And then it's season three at four, season two at three,
season two at one, and then season one at one.
I'm not gonna give you a bit because I love
them all the varying degrees I love or sorry, what
did I say my top? We're all just call this
season one, season four, season three, season two. That's why
I think I screwed it up. But I love Miguel Prado,
That's why that's a bit higher. And I think that
was like a really great story. Again, they introduced the Skinner,
so that was a killer. But at first the antagonist
was just a political figure, right like that. Season two,
all the dope stuff is good. The Lilah stuff does.
I don't hate it like everyone else, but it does
get like a little too over top or soap obbery.
That finale goes pretty weak because they handle the dope
stuff and I'm like, well, what else do we do? Right,
So that's a little week and yeah, I'm a bit.
Season four is offously amazing and just great in all aspects.
So to me, it's like a one A one B.
But season one is probably like even just like seeing
the shots those first few episodes when they shot the
pilot on film, that was the best looking Dexter look like,
it's a beautiful show. I felt like, don't make it wrong.
Resurrection has some good imagery and shots as well, but
with Dexter those first few episodes, probably because they're trying
to sell the show right because it was an unknown quantity,
but that's was really like, we're gonna make this thing
look really nice and really good, and I love just
how like when grow like that's the thing. In the
first few episodes, even mostly season one, all the characters
are sweaty and grossly because they're in Miami, like they
really emphasize the Miami of it all, where later seasons
they kind of lose that and they feel He's like ah,
we're not gonna whatever. People know where in Miami. Season
one had a grit to it that I loved and
to me, the ice truck Killer, that Revelation, everything that,
to me is a perfect season. I'm like, it's tough
because Breaking Bad Kind ends on like a cliffhanger. You
can make an argument. I think Breaking That has the
best pilot of all time to me, if you're talking
about what's just a single one, not even just like
the best first season, the best season overall. I can
make it an argument from Dexter season one because it
ends in a way where you could end Dexter story
right there. Obviously, tons of stuff happens, but like you could,
that's like a you know, twelve hour movie mini series
and it's a fantastic So yeah, Season one I absolutely
love and that is my Umber one super mixes. A
lot of people who like Resurrection are those who really
hated new Blood, so there might be a casualty there.
I one hundred percent agree with that. I remember because yeah,
we only got one Patroon question. I'll push that news
to the other time. But yeah, so Monday, we're going
to talk about Conjuring prequel movie and TV series happening.
Jassic World is on the way. Another one was Scarlotte
Johansson and then David F. Samdberg's directing a new Anavil
Whore and we'll box office, so at least Monday, that's
what'll be time. But for sure. Uh but yeah, when
we did the finite because with the Dexter show for us,
it used to which we found out I think either
did or what. Either way, it used to premiere nine
pm R time. We didn't know that for this go round,
but so Dexter new Blood, we would watch it and
review it right away and it was great because that's
usually when we would be doing reviews. So it was
a little later, but still you know a lot of
people are watching. And our most live stream ever is
the Dexter New Blood finale and I remember so many
people mad. But I'll just say multiple choices obviously, you
know the big choice with Dexter and that one super
bad Mike I won't say boys, but everyone was mad
with that, like, oh they could do this, I can
do this, Like no, no, this over and I try
to explain to people like that, like the character had
a revelation and had to end that way because they
finally realized what the fucking original show was about. And
even season seven got back to that point of like
what happens to these people and what does Dexter do
and why? Like why the cons out weigh the pros.
Even though I love the character, X, Y and Z
should happen with this character and they have the character
realize that, And I don't think a lot of people
like that. I think a lot of people wanted to
very triumphant DEXs are like, yeah, I'm a killer, it
doesn't matter. You're like, I get that, But that's a
very just, I know, muted nothing character. So I agree
with you, Mike, where I think a lot of people
just that were displeased with that love New Blood. But
I am not one of those people, and I think
it's uh to me they've missed the point of the show.
I think they like more of a turn your brain
off type of action thing. And I'm not trying to
say you can't enjoy them. I just feel like, if
it's just if you're looking at a show from a
point and point being some actual development of characters, I
don't know how you can watch Resurrection with New Blood
and with the original series and feel you it kind
of goes together, right. So and again if feel say, hey, no,
that's why I like Dexter. I just like him fighting
kill like okay, then I get why you love Resurrection, right.
So it all depends what you're into what you're not into. Finally,
Clay a cocktail. Clay says current hype level for one
battle after another. Taking everything into account, he says, awesome
early reactions from critics, but they also said that about
Air and WEISZ and that's from the same source of
material as the author, which we talk on the discord.
I did not enjoy you don't, Mike doesn't. That was
a slog that was a tough one. And then WWB
is doing weird marketing job between the trailers Fortnite selling
this is an action comedy when no pta movie has
ever been in action comedy. That's purely how they're gonna
sell it. I could see some of some of the
cinema scores not being good for this because they are
being sold a false bill of goods. But the problem is,
we talked about this on what was it on Monday's episode.
The budget's huge, we don't know for sure, but there's
like a rumor of it is either it's anywhere from
like one fifteen to one seventy five, which is massive, right,
like even one fifteen for Pta movie, that seems like
a little, a little out of proportion me soon as
a film goer, I don't care. That's great. They get
in the budget and he got due what he does perfect,
whether that's paying for the cast, the battles, whatever, that's awesome. Great.
As a filmgoer, I am pumped. If you think about
that's why. If we're talking about the marketing, that's why.
It's just because they want to try and get back
some of that money. I bet they can still view
some of that early tracking and the vibe and going, oh,
this isn't hitting with X, Y and Z, this isn't trending.
People are watching it this way. We need to get
people on board and the hope is that they maybe
go see an action comedy it is something more but
and they end up loving it. I'm very excited. I
had this as on my top five most anticipated when
we did the like the twenty twenty five preview last year.
It's Pta with Sean Penn Leo and Beniso del Toro
hell yeah, Like and the trailer that first show is great.
I didn't watch any other trailers. I'm very excited to
be seen this in a couple of weeks. But no,
I'm I don't want to say like ten because that's
like all that that's like, that's like honesty, right, So
I say, like, if I'm out of ten Clay, I'm
like a like a eight point five nine. I'm I'm
pretty high. But I still have that because like I
need to see the movie and yeah, there he has
directed his stuff like Inher and Fights or I've not
still seen Liquorid Pizza Liquorice Pizza, but I've had enough
people tell me about how disappointed they were with it
that I go, uh, so that's why for me, I'm
I'm still waiting to see. But yeah, my hope is
that week I want to do like a rewatched a
bunch of stuff I want to watch. There will be blood,
I want watch Magnolia. Maybe I'll watch Liquid Pizza Liquorice.
I don't know why I can't say liquorice Pizza today,
but so no, I'm pretty excited. This is my most
anticipated movie for the rest of the year that until
like maybe some other Oscar tenders pop out there, but
there we go. That has Tres told you that is
this week. I will not be doing a third episode,
but we could's that's why the show started, because you
guys support it and there's just always stuff to talk about.
But big thank you to everyone in the chat, Big Thing,
everyone that watched Big Thing, to everyone that listened on
de Man after the fact of the podcast form. I
will be back obviously throughout the week of Peacemaker and
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I'll be back next Monday, twelve thirty pm PST. You
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If you have anymore, send them in. I will cover them.
Like I said, when you guys send in stuff, I
try to put that to the main line of the
show first, and the other topics we'll get to because
there's always stuff happening. So thank you very much. Hope
everyone has a good day in the rest of a week.
I'll talk to you later and it won't be boring.