WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.919 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.839 AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand 3 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:07.240 on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:07.360 --> 00:00:09.679 Can always let us know what you learned this week 5 00:00:09.720 --> 00:00:10.519 on the Gary and Shannon. 6 00:00:10.560 --> 00:00:16.199 Oh, yes, do leave us leave us that is a 7 00:00:16.239 --> 00:00:17.600 big beever. 8 00:00:18.239 --> 00:00:21.239 Yes, leave us a talk back on the iHeart app. 9 00:00:21.239 --> 00:00:23.079 When you're listening on the app, you can just send 10 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:25.280 us a hit that little button and send us a 11 00:00:25.320 --> 00:00:27.079 message and tell us what you learned this week. If 12 00:00:27.079 --> 00:00:32.119 you're also listening or using one of those Alexa enabled devices, 13 00:00:32.159 --> 00:00:37.159 you could just say, hey, send KFI a message and 14 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:39.799 then she'll record you and then she'll send it to us. 15 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:43.240 Well, we talked about the Menendez brothers because the hearing 16 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:47.039 yesterday has been put off, or the resentencing if that 17 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:49.960 does indeed happen, has been put off until May ninth, because, 18 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:53.039 as we talked about on our show, before the decision 19 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:56.399 had come down, the DA's office got their hands on 20 00:00:56.439 --> 00:01:00.799 this Parole Board Risk Assessment report. This was the Parole 21 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:04.079 Board at the behest of Governor Gavin Newsom taking a 22 00:01:04.120 --> 00:01:06.560 look at the brothers and deciding what kind of risk 23 00:01:06.680 --> 00:01:10.359 they would pose if they were on the outside. Now, everybody, 24 00:01:10.400 --> 00:01:14.480 including all their little fans who think that they are 25 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:20.719 the victims here, just thought, why would they be a risk? 26 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:26.519 What possible risk could they pose to society? Well, there's 27 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:28.840 got to be something in that report if the DA's 28 00:01:28.840 --> 00:01:31.120 office wants the judge to hear it. And that's in 29 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:33.840 fact why they're going to postpone this decision is because 30 00:01:33.879 --> 00:01:36.599 the judge will get his hands on that report and 31 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:39.799 read it. Geregis fought tooth and nail so that the 32 00:01:39.879 --> 00:01:42.239 judge wouldn't see it. So you've got to believe there's 33 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:45.319 something in that risk assessment that's gonna not be great 34 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:46.719 for the Menendez brothers. 35 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:52.799 Geggis also claims that he had not been provided a copy. 36 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:55.920 But I think your point is well taken that there's 37 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:58.480 a reason why they didn't want this in the judge's hands. 38 00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:02.200 There was a reason why that Nathan Hockman wanted the 39 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:04.120 judge to take time to take a look at. 40 00:02:03.959 --> 00:02:09.039 It, and the prosecutor yesterday to Rebut Gerregiz said, why 41 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:10.120 wouldn't you want. 42 00:02:09.879 --> 00:02:11.719 The judge to have all the facts. 43 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:14.080 Why wouldn't you want the judge to see everything that 44 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:15.560 he's a that's. 45 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:18.599 Available It's a great question. It is a great question. 46 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:22.199 This issue though, and I think we saw a little 47 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:25.520 bit of it outside the courthouse yesterday. The people that 48 00:02:25.599 --> 00:02:28.000 want to be in the courtroom to watch these types 49 00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:30.800 of things. If you've ever worked a courtroom, and I 50 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:33.039 don't mean this as a lawyer or an officer of 51 00:02:33.039 --> 00:02:35.159 the court or anything like that, but if you've been 52 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:39.680 in a courtroom as a matter of your job, going 53 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:45.360 there for entertainment purposes just does not feel the same. 54 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:49.319 There's one thing to say, if you, for example, were 55 00:02:49.879 --> 00:02:52.479 around in nineteen eighty nine, in nineteen ninety if you 56 00:02:53.360 --> 00:03:01.240 witnessed this while it was happening, there's no there's no 57 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:05.479 shiny part of this for me knowing this case and 58 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:09.520 knowing when it was going on, how awful it was. 59 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:13.439 This is not something. These are not guys that you 60 00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:17.639 would want to champion. And there is something that's lost 61 00:03:17.800 --> 00:03:21.520 in time where if you lived through this, you saw 62 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:23.680 what was going on. Let me use the example of 63 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:28.520 the OJ Simpson stuff as well, because in nineteen ninety four, 64 00:03:29.080 --> 00:03:35.960 if you're stuck in watching the Bronco chase, the arrest, 65 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:39.159 the trial in ninety five, like all of this stuff 66 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:44.000 that's not a happy, fun time, and reliving it by 67 00:03:44.479 --> 00:03:47.759 revisiting it a couple decades later is not a fun thing. 68 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:51.159 I want to continue with this because I was not 69 00:03:51.280 --> 00:03:54.520 paying attention in nineteen eighty nine when this happened. I 70 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:57.159 wasn't paying attention during the trials. I was a kid myself. 71 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:01.840 I think it's a I think it's a laziness thing. 72 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:04.879 I think it's people take whatever served up to them 73 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:07.280 on Netflix and they run with it. But anyway, we'll 74 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:11.280 get it into more of the differences when we come back. 75 00:04:12.080 --> 00:04:16.519 M Gary and I know lots of people that supersonic. 76 00:04:18.480 --> 00:04:21.000 I hate you, man, What did you do to him? 77 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:22.160 What did you do? 78 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:24.360 I don't know. I don't know. 79 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:26.639 He calls in like every day. 80 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:31.519 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 81 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:32.639 AM six forty. 82 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:36.560 Something didn't hold water to me, Something didn't add up 83 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:40.759 to me. And then today they said that he got 84 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:45.879 busted for cocaine, and I thought, Aha, Now, liquor and cocaine, 85 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:48.199 that'll get you on a chair lift. 86 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:50.560 Just the liquor, man, I don't have that. 87 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:54.279 Kind of initiative. But you give me a little cocaine 88 00:04:54.360 --> 00:04:59.399 with my liquor and boom, I'm up for anything initiative. Yeah, well, go. 89 00:04:59.279 --> 00:05:02.000 Ahead, Tony from Lake Forest. 90 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:09.879 My grandfather said, never up, never in, especially playing on 91 00:05:09.920 --> 00:05:14.720 the golf course, and he shot three holes in one. 92 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:18.120 Okay, good times, good friend. 93 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:24.439 I don't get it, Gary Jack in Texas. I grew 94 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:27.839 up in South Florida before you all were born, and 95 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:31.040 the Mighty Dolphins had a big tank in the end 96 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:34.240 zone of the old Orange Bowl that had a dolphin 97 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:39.399 in it, and whenever the dolphin team would score, they 98 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:43.079 would have the dolphin jump up and do flips. And 99 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:47.279 that was a very popular thing in South Florida, and 100 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:48.480 they loved the dolphins. 101 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:49.560 Yeah bye. 102 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:53.040 In Jacksonville, they've got some tanks. They've also got swimming 103 00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:54.600 pools and stuff in that stadium. 104 00:05:54.680 --> 00:05:55.439 Okay, and golf. 105 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:58.120 Never up, never in is a putting strategy where players 106 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:02.199 aim to hit putts t roll pass the hole rather 107 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:06.000 than stopping short, aiming for a more aggressive approach to 108 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:07.720 ensure the ball doesn't get trapped. 109 00:06:07.839 --> 00:06:08.319 Yeah. 110 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:10.360 The idea is that it's better to leave a putt 111 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:14.079 long than short. A long putt can be easily corrected 112 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:16.800 with a second putt, while a short putt can lead 113 00:06:16.839 --> 00:06:20.079 to a three putt. I disagree, because if I overshoot 114 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:24.439 the hole, it's rarely just one putt to get it 115 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:24.879 in there. 116 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:25.160 Right. 117 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:28.319 But I think they mean, if you're trying to judge 118 00:06:28.360 --> 00:06:31.240 the distance, you aim for a spot that's maybe a 119 00:06:31.240 --> 00:06:34.600 foot past where the hole actually is, not twenty feet 120 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:37.160 like you do, just just past the hole. 121 00:06:37.240 --> 00:06:41.040 So never up means up before the hole, and never 122 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:43.279 in means you're aiming in the hole. 123 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:44.920 You're aiming just a little past the hole. 124 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:46.920 I like that? 125 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:47.000 Is that? 126 00:06:47.079 --> 00:06:48.240 Yeah? Okay, sounds about it. 127 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:50.600 We also came up with our own little saying, well, 128 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:54.600 Gary did We were looking at some news coverage of 129 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:57.759 an event and there was a woman and she had 130 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:02.720 a shell type neckline of her dress and you could 131 00:07:02.759 --> 00:07:06.480 see her bikini tan line as well, and she also 132 00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:09.879 had a nice cross, nice cross with Jesus right there 133 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:10.600 on that cross. 134 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:12.759 I don't know, Jesus. 135 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:14.759 I don't think it was a crucis, except that would 136 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:16.000 be weird, right, I guess. 137 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:17.759 I don't know. If you're into that, it's cool too. 138 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:20.439 But she had a cross on and I said, that's 139 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:22.680 a little bit of cleavage. That's a little bit too 140 00:07:22.759 --> 00:07:25.720 much cleavage. And you said, that's not too much cleavage. 141 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:27.839 And I said, I think about an inch of cleavage 142 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:29.240 is good. I feel like she's got an inch and 143 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:31.800 a half. That might be too much cleavage. And you said, no, 144 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:34.480 as long as the cleavage isn't bigger than the cross. 145 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:38.199 And I thought, what a brilliant piece of advice. 146 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:42.240 That's make sure, ladies, when you head out for Easter weekend, 147 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:46.480 that you're cleavage, that you're showing not bigger than the 148 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:47.560 cross that you're wearing. 149 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:51.120 You got to do a real, a real look. Seat 150 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:52.000 in an amasement. 151 00:07:52.720 --> 00:07:54.639 Measure it if you want to, right, I mean, if 152 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:55.879 it's that close, you can measure it. 153 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:58.959 I mean think about, you know, Elvira, and how big 154 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:01.759 her cross was and how cleavage she showed still adhered 155 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:02.279 to the rule. 156 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:07.279 Elvira, Yeah, the mistress of that oh you're talking about. 157 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:09.000 I mean there are women. 158 00:08:08.720 --> 00:08:11.959 That wear big ass crosses and they show a lot 159 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:14.959 of cleavage but still adhere to the rule within the rules. 160 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:17.720 You wear a bigger cross, you get more cleavage. 161 00:08:17.720 --> 00:08:19.360 We have a chance for you to win a thousand 162 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:21.839 dollars or so you pick it up. 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We'll 171 00:08:47.440 --> 00:08:48.759 do it again an hour from now. 172 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:50.960 I mean, I did bring up Parker Center this week. 173 00:08:51.320 --> 00:08:53.720 Alvira's not that much of a stretch living in the 174 00:08:53.799 --> 00:08:56.799 late eighties again in eighty nine. 175 00:08:56.919 --> 00:08:57.080 Now. 176 00:08:57.440 --> 00:09:02.759 Part of the the changing toneging issues surrounding the Menendez 177 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:07.799 case is this breed young breed of people. I would 178 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:12.960 argue that most of them are women that support these guys. Now, 179 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:18.279 there is a whole TikTok Instagram account called Menendez Legacy, 180 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:21.240 and it's run by four people who wish to remain 181 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:26.559 anonymous for multiple reasons. But they are all in their twenties, 182 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:30.320 so they didn't get to see this either, did I. 183 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:33.080 That's the thing. I don't think that's an excuse. 184 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:36.720 I wasn't paying attention to the Menendez case in real time. 185 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:41.639 I only was brought in the loop when the first 186 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:44.600 seventeen documentaries were made of this whole thing. 187 00:09:44.639 --> 00:09:47.000 And you make a good point, though, there's a laziness 188 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:50.000 when it comes to stories like this. People want to 189 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:53.639 believe what they want to believe, Yeah, and they're going 190 00:09:53.720 --> 00:09:58.320 to pick and choose the facts of a case. I 191 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:02.759 hope that that's not the way I do things, and 192 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:07.039 I make an attempt to try to find different aspects 193 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:09.600 of stories so that I have a better picture of 194 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:11.679 what I know and what I don't know. 195 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:17.000 I feel like there's also a change in parenting where 196 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:19.919 the you know, these parents were going to cut them 197 00:10:19.960 --> 00:10:22.919 off and the whole bit, and how that's awful, and 198 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:26.720 you know that that's the way things were done in 199 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:29.440 the late eighties. You know, you became eighteen, get out 200 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:30.440 of the house, get a job. 201 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:33.200 Yeah, there weren't questions about how long you were going 202 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:35.399 to stay in the house, right, it was time to go. 203 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:38.799 Yeah, well you don't get to spend the family money anymore. 204 00:10:38.840 --> 00:10:41.480 You want you want something great, go get a job. 205 00:10:42.759 --> 00:10:48.080 Now that's cruel. Now, that's like, uh, you know, child endangerment. 206 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:52.519 There is a an aspect of this the people that 207 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:57.559 are behind this, they are leaning into the sexual assault allegations. 208 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:01.320 One of the account man says that she was a 209 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:03.919 survivor of sexual assault and says, I know how it 210 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:05.960 feels to have that power taken away from you. 211 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:08.600 But again, that's awesome, but that's not what happened here. 212 00:11:08.679 --> 00:11:13.159 Well, and that's also not an that's not a it's 213 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:16.960 not a defense for taking a shotgun and killing your parents. 214 00:11:17.320 --> 00:11:20.639 No, and then the question why, Okay, if the father, 215 00:11:21.320 --> 00:11:25.600 which is very very minuscule chance that a father molests 216 00:11:25.679 --> 00:11:31.279 his sons one and then both, that's another minuscule chance, 217 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:34.600 and then you're killing the mom too, And then their 218 00:11:34.639 --> 00:11:38.799 whole self defense thing falls apart when you look at 219 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:42.399 the pre meditation and the oh mom's not dead yet, 220 00:11:42.519 --> 00:11:44.399 let me go to the trunk of the car, get 221 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:48.320 more bullets, come back, reload and finish her off. None 222 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:51.799 of that is speaking to self defense. But that's not 223 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:55.840 And I understand people have trauma and if they see 224 00:11:55.879 --> 00:11:57.360 a little bit of their trauma and someone else and 225 00:11:57.399 --> 00:11:58.879 they want to fight for that person, I get it. 226 00:11:59.000 --> 00:11:59.960 That's not what this is. 227 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:06.480 These were two spoiled brats, probably dealing with the narcissism 228 00:12:06.519 --> 00:12:08.080 that was passed on by their father. 229 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:10.840 Guy wasn't the best guy in the world. 230 00:12:12.120 --> 00:12:14.679 But they shot and killed them because they weren't getting 231 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:17.360 what they wanted financially from their parents. 232 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:19.279 And that's all there is to it. 233 00:12:19.720 --> 00:12:22.519 And look no further than the shopping spree they went 234 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:28.039 on in the days the hours after their parents were 235 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:33.000 shot and killed. Oh and psh, whatever the fact that 236 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:35.840 they lied from the from I mean, every part of 237 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:43.320 this points to them premeditatively shooting and killing their parents 238 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:47.279 for financial gain. Every single part of this. The lying 239 00:12:47.320 --> 00:12:49.840 after the fact saying it was a mob hit. I mean, 240 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:54.440 they've been lying about this before the bodies were even bodies. 241 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:56.720 Yeah, and it's still it's not to say that they 242 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:00.440 may not have been rehabilitated or changed their ways while 243 00:13:00.440 --> 00:13:02.240 they were in prison. That'll do a lot of crazy 244 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:04.720 things to people. But is it enough to justify them 245 00:13:04.759 --> 00:13:10.240 getting out. We talked earlier, we talked yesterday actually about 246 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:13.919 the unfavorability ratings that Karen Bass, the mayor of La 247 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:17.600 saw spike after the fires. We're going to talk with 248 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:21.960 the head of the UCLA Luskin School of Public Affairs, 249 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:26.080 longtime LA City councilmen, longtime La County Board of Supervisors 250 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:27.720 member Zevyerslavsky. 251 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:31.360 When we come back, you're listening to Gary and Shannon 252 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:34.200 on demand from KFI Am six forty. 253 00:13:34.480 --> 00:13:38.799 I always enjoyed covering zev yar Slavsky because he always 254 00:13:38.840 --> 00:13:42.759 seemed to me to be a no BS guy. Served 255 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:46.279 on the La City Council, La County Board of Supervisors 256 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:49.759 as well. Now is at UCLA's Luskin School of Public 257 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:55.200 Affairs and was quoted this week because Karen Bass's ratings 258 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:57.919 did what we thought her ratings would do when she 259 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:03.440 kind of skirted responsibility and any accountability post fires. As 260 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:06.200 we've reported to you, we sat here, we got the 261 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:12.759 ridiculously awful fire weather forecast that Monday, and we knew 262 00:14:12.759 --> 00:14:15.480 that it was going to be a really bad week 263 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:19.240 for LA when you saw what those those wins were 264 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:21.600 doing as they came down from the mountains, slamming into 265 00:14:21.639 --> 00:14:24.840 the populated areas, and it was just a recipe for disaster. 266 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:29.399 And she went ahead with her planned trip, her planned 267 00:14:29.399 --> 00:14:31.960 international trip, and then came back and kind of didn't 268 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:36.440 known it and had to play ketchup. So those ratings 269 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:40.000 that have come out showed just that that they had 270 00:14:40.759 --> 00:14:44.320 they show a very unfavorable opinion of the mayor. 271 00:14:44.440 --> 00:14:45.279 Post fires. 272 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:48.960 Joining us now to talk about it, zev Yaroslavsky again, 273 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:53.039 the supervisor, former supervisor, former city council member, runs the 274 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:56.080 LA Initiative there at Luskin School of Public Affairs. Thanks 275 00:14:56.120 --> 00:14:57.720 for taking time for us today. 276 00:14:58.600 --> 00:14:59.919 Thank you, thanks for having me. 277 00:15:00.960 --> 00:15:03.399 Let's discuss there was a comment that you made. We 278 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:08.279 talked yesterday about the numbers, specifically that her unfavorability ratings 279 00:15:08.279 --> 00:15:11.720 had shot up by seventeen points, and you said, obviously 280 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:14.000 that's the bad news, that she's taking the brunt of this, 281 00:15:14.080 --> 00:15:16.200 But you told the La Times the good news for 282 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:20.600 her is this happened overnight, and by performing well in recovery, 283 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:22.519 she could win back some of the people that she 284 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:26.879 has lost. How listen, you've been in LA City and 285 00:15:27.000 --> 00:15:30.000 LA County politics for a few decades. How do you 286 00:15:30.159 --> 00:15:34.399 begin to do that in an environment like Los Angeles. 287 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:37.720 Well, I think if she'll be judged by her performance 288 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:40.639 going forward. The election is fourteen months away, the primary 289 00:15:40.639 --> 00:15:46.320 election June of next year, and if she has a 290 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:50.759 successful recovery, if the recovery goes at the pace that 291 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:53.320 she predicted, and that others would like or even faster. 292 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:57.600 You know. I think the anger and the frustration and 293 00:15:57.639 --> 00:16:02.519 the fear that permeated the fire areas and beyond. By 294 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:05.000 the way, that's what our surveys showed, that there's a 295 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:08.639 trauma that went county wide that if she can turn 296 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:13.240 that around and get the recovery going is I think 297 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:16.039 she could turn it around. I wouldn't write her obituary yet. 298 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:19.399 Fourteen months is an eternity, especially in this political environment. 299 00:16:19.919 --> 00:16:23.759 So I mean, she clearly had a rough beginning of 300 00:16:23.840 --> 00:16:27.480 twenty twenty five. I don't think anybody could argue with that. 301 00:16:28.440 --> 00:16:30.639 And I'm sure if she had it to do over again, 302 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:33.879 she would do a number of things differently, so would 303 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:35.480 I on a lot of things that I did. But 304 00:16:35.759 --> 00:16:39.440 you can recover by performing, you know, the best politics 305 00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:42.000 is doing your job well. And if she can do 306 00:16:42.039 --> 00:16:44.519 that over the next fourteen months, I think people are 307 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:48.679 forgiving of resilient people who are resilient and can turn 308 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:50.960 things around. Now it's going to be a steep mountain 309 00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:54.159 for her to climb because there's a lot. First of all, 310 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:56.679 she's only responsible for the Palisades portion of it. The 311 00:16:56.720 --> 00:16:59.879 Altadena part is not in the city of La So 312 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:04.119 you've got two fires, you know, fire disasters that were 313 00:17:04.119 --> 00:17:10.400 going on in January, and they both have to be addressed. 314 00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:13.839 So I'm not ready to write her obituary yet. But 315 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:17.079 there's no question she paid a political price at the beginning. 316 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:20.160 The mayors always do, no matter what the circumstances, when 317 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:23.599 things go bad, the mayors are always the ones county 318 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:28.200 countrywide who will take the brunt and you know, the 319 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:33.599 rest of us kind of duck. And that's the price 320 00:17:33.640 --> 00:17:34.720 you pay for being the mayor. 321 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:37.839 Yeah, I'm not willing to write her obituary yet either, 322 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:39.680 just because she's got the staying power. 323 00:17:39.799 --> 00:17:41.519 I mean, she's been around for a long time. 324 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:43.559 It was more than twenty years ago when she first 325 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:45.960 came on the scene in the State Assembly. So she 326 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:49.240 knows how to weather the storms, even if it's your 327 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:51.759 own doing type of storm. 328 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:52.279 Zev. 329 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:56.079 You were instrumental with the nineteen eighty four Olympic Games, 330 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:59.400 and you have been I believe, advising this time around 331 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:03.319 as well. You've got some consternation between the Mayor's office 332 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:05.759 and the La County Board of Supervisors. 333 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:08.319 I wanted to talk about it. Does that play a 334 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:09.039 role as. 335 00:18:08.880 --> 00:18:12.000 The Olympics comes to town, and also with the fires 336 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:14.440 and the permitting process. I know that we are a 337 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:17.880 no build type Olympics, But can you stick around and 338 00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:19.400 answer some of those questions? 339 00:18:20.119 --> 00:18:22.440 Yeah, briefly because I've got to do something else in 340 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:25.880 about ten minutes, so I'd be happy to stick around. 341 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:28.279 Yeah, all right, wellt'tle just do it right now? Then? 342 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:33.400 Olympics on the horizon, and you don't have the best 343 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:37.039 relationship right now between city Hall and the Board of supervisors. 344 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:37.920 Does that play a role? 345 00:18:38.440 --> 00:18:41.680 I don't think the Olympics is a county versus city 346 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:43.839 issue that I think that's when the homelessness area where 347 00:18:43.839 --> 00:18:48.079 there's been a breach. But on the Olympics. Look, in 348 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:51.920 nineteen eighty four, we passed a measure. In nineteen seventy eight, 349 00:18:51.960 --> 00:18:54.400 we passed a charter amendment that prohibited the city from 350 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:58.599 using taxpayer money gone to write the Olympics. That measure 351 00:18:58.640 --> 00:19:01.039 does not apply to the twenty twenty eight Games, and 352 00:19:01.079 --> 00:19:04.400 in fact, the city council and the previous mayor signed 353 00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:08.480 a promise, a legally binding promise, that they would cover 354 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:13.880 any cost overruns that the Olympics hole generate. Now, it 355 00:19:13.880 --> 00:19:16.440 shouldn't run a deficit because they don't have to build 356 00:19:16.480 --> 00:19:19.039 any major venues. They have to do some things, they 357 00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:20.839 have to build a track at the coliseum in assuming 358 00:19:20.839 --> 00:19:23.559 pool at SOFI, but you don't have to build a 359 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:29.640 new stadium or stad and so my concern is what 360 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:32.480 we don't know. There's not a whole lot of transparency. 361 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:34.680 I'm not even sure the city knows or the mayor 362 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:38.200 and the city council know exactly where the revenues and 363 00:19:38.279 --> 00:19:40.119 the expenditures are going to come from. And I think 364 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:44.039 that at some point soon the taxpayers have a right 365 00:19:44.119 --> 00:19:47.079 to know what the fiscal situation is at the Olympics 366 00:19:47.079 --> 00:19:49.759 because they're on the hook for it. If you wanted 367 00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:52.319 to borrow money from a bank, the bank would say, yeah, 368 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:53.640 we'd love to lend you money. How are you going 369 00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:56.319 to pay it back? And you'd have to tell them 370 00:19:56.799 --> 00:19:59.559 and if they're satisfied, they'd lend you the money. If 371 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:02.160 they're not satisfied, they wouldn't. Well, the city has already 372 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:04.759 made a commitment on this, and nobody else has not. 373 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:07.200 The county, not Oklahoma City where the softball is going 374 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:09.920 to be, not Long Beach where sailing is going to be. 375 00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:14.119 It's all in the city of Los Angeles taxpayers. And 376 00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:16.119 as I say, I don't think there's any reason why 377 00:20:16.160 --> 00:20:20.480 this Olympics should not make a profit, barring any COVID 378 00:20:20.680 --> 00:20:26.480 or major catastrophe, but they need to be a little 379 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:29.960 more transparent about revenues and expenditures here. 380 00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:35.920 We haven't even dove into that mess. 381 00:20:35.799 --> 00:20:37.720 As soon as we as soon as we finished covering 382 00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:40.200 one story, we get another one out of out of 383 00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:41.079 the Olympics. That's right. 384 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:42.759 I mean, it's a blessing that they don't have to 385 00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:46.039 build as much with the county strapped to the permitting 386 00:20:46.079 --> 00:20:47.720 process as it is with the fire. 387 00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:51.519 Well, zev R. Slovsky, we appreciate your time. We thanks 388 00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:54.960 for thank you for you know, serving on every every 389 00:20:55.119 --> 00:20:57.960 board of government over in the La County. It seems 390 00:20:58.000 --> 00:20:59.599 in the last several decades. 391 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:01.079 It was a privilege. 392 00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:04.680 And do you still you still sport that mustache, don't you? 393 00:21:05.559 --> 00:21:10.000 Oh? Yeah, okay, I don't think i'll I'll ever take that. 394 00:21:10.920 --> 00:21:13.079 My grandfather a beautiful mustache. 395 00:21:13.359 --> 00:21:15.920 It's a beautiful mustache for a beautiful man. Thank you 396 00:21:15.960 --> 00:21:18.079 for that. We appreciate what I mean, Grandpa was a 397 00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:20.720 beautiful man. You are to never mind I made it 398 00:21:20.799 --> 00:21:27.759 weird of Yourslavsky there get ahead of the list. The 399 00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:31.039 Luscian School over at u C l A and longtime 400 00:21:31.240 --> 00:21:33.359 city council member, a long time county. 401 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:35.720