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Speaker 1: Well, we talked about the Menendez brothers because the hearing
Speaker 1: yesterday has been put off, or the resentencing if that
Speaker 1: does indeed happen, has been put off until May ninth, because,
Speaker 1: as we talked about on our show, before the decision
Speaker 1: had come down, the DA's office got their hands on
Speaker 1: this Parole Board Risk Assessment report. This was the Parole
Speaker 1: Board at the behest of Governor Gavin Newsom taking a
Speaker 1: look at the brothers and deciding what kind of risk
Speaker 1: they would pose if they were on the outside. Now, everybody,
Speaker 1: including all their little fans who think that they are
Speaker 1: the victims here, just thought, why would they be a risk?
Speaker 1: What possible risk could they pose to society? Well, there's
Speaker 1: got to be something in that report if the DA's
Speaker 1: office wants the judge to hear it. And that's in
Speaker 1: fact why they're going to postpone this decision is because
Speaker 1: the judge will get his hands on that report and
Speaker 1: read it. Geregis fought tooth and nail so that the
Speaker 1: judge wouldn't see it. So you've got to believe there's
Speaker 1: something in that risk assessment that's gonna not be great
Speaker 1: for the Menendez brothers.
Speaker 2: Geggis also claims that he had not been provided a copy.
Speaker 2: But I think your point is well taken that there's
Speaker 2: a reason why they didn't want this in the judge's hands.
Speaker 2: There was a reason why that Nathan Hockman wanted the
Speaker 2: judge to take time to take a look at.
Speaker 1: It, and the prosecutor yesterday to Rebut Gerregiz said, why
Speaker 1: wouldn't you want.
Speaker 3: The judge to have all the facts.
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you want the judge to see everything that
Speaker 1: he's a that's.
Speaker 2: Available It's a great question. It is a great question.
Speaker 2: This issue though, and I think we saw a little
Speaker 2: bit of it outside the courthouse yesterday. The people that
Speaker 2: want to be in the courtroom to watch these types
Speaker 2: of things. If you've ever worked a courtroom, and I
Speaker 2: don't mean this as a lawyer or an officer of
Speaker 2: the court or anything like that, but if you've been
Speaker 2: in a courtroom as a matter of your job, going
Speaker 2: there for entertainment purposes just does not feel the same.
Speaker 2: There's one thing to say, if you, for example, were
Speaker 2: around in nineteen eighty nine, in nineteen ninety if you
Speaker 2: witnessed this while it was happening, there's no there's no
Speaker 2: shiny part of this for me knowing this case and
Speaker 2: knowing when it was going on, how awful it was.
Speaker 2: This is not something. These are not guys that you
Speaker 2: would want to champion. And there is something that's lost
Speaker 2: in time where if you lived through this, you saw
Speaker 2: what was going on. Let me use the example of
Speaker 2: the OJ Simpson stuff as well, because in nineteen ninety four,
Speaker 2: if you're stuck in watching the Bronco chase, the arrest,
Speaker 2: the trial in ninety five, like all of this stuff
Speaker 2: that's not a happy, fun time, and reliving it by
Speaker 2: revisiting it a couple decades later is not a fun thing.
Speaker 1: I want to continue with this because I was not
Speaker 1: paying attention in nineteen eighty nine when this happened. I
Speaker 1: wasn't paying attention during the trials. I was a kid myself.
Speaker 1: I think it's a I think it's a laziness thing.
Speaker 1: I think it's people take whatever served up to them
Speaker 1: on Netflix and they run with it. But anyway, we'll
Speaker 1: get it into more of the differences when we come back.
Speaker 2: M Gary and I know lots of people that supersonic.
Speaker 3: I hate you, man, What did you do to him?
Speaker 3: What did you do?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3: He calls in like every day.
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Speaker 1: Something didn't hold water to me, Something didn't add up
Speaker 1: to me. And then today they said that he got
Speaker 1: busted for cocaine, and I thought, Aha, Now, liquor and cocaine,
Speaker 1: that'll get you on a chair lift.
Speaker 3: Just the liquor, man, I don't have that.
Speaker 1: Kind of initiative. But you give me a little cocaine
Speaker 1: with my liquor and boom, I'm up for anything initiative. Yeah, well, go.
Speaker 2: Ahead, Tony from Lake Forest.
Speaker 5: My grandfather said, never up, never in, especially playing on
Speaker 5: the golf course, and he shot three holes in one.
Speaker 2: Okay, good times, good friend.
Speaker 6: I don't get it, Gary Jack in Texas. I grew
Speaker 6: up in South Florida before you all were born, and
Speaker 6: the Mighty Dolphins had a big tank in the end
Speaker 6: zone of the old Orange Bowl that had a dolphin
Speaker 6: in it, and whenever the dolphin team would score, they
Speaker 6: would have the dolphin jump up and do flips. And
Speaker 6: that was a very popular thing in South Florida, and
Speaker 6: they loved the dolphins.
Speaker 3: Yeah bye.
Speaker 1: In Jacksonville, they've got some tanks. They've also got swimming
Speaker 1: pools and stuff in that stadium.
Speaker 3: Okay, and golf.
Speaker 1: Never up, never in is a putting strategy where players
Speaker 1: aim to hit putts t roll pass the hole rather
Speaker 1: than stopping short, aiming for a more aggressive approach to
Speaker 1: ensure the ball doesn't get trapped.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The idea is that it's better to leave a putt
Speaker 1: long than short. A long putt can be easily corrected
Speaker 1: with a second putt, while a short putt can lead
Speaker 1: to a three putt. I disagree, because if I overshoot
Speaker 1: the hole, it's rarely just one putt to get it
Speaker 1: in there.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 2: But I think they mean, if you're trying to judge
Speaker 2: the distance, you aim for a spot that's maybe a
Speaker 2: foot past where the hole actually is, not twenty feet
Speaker 2: like you do, just just past the hole.
Speaker 1: So never up means up before the hole, and never
Speaker 1: in means you're aiming in the hole.
Speaker 3: You're aiming just a little past the hole.
Speaker 2: I like that?
Speaker 5: Is that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, sounds about it.
Speaker 1: We also came up with our own little saying, well,
Speaker 1: Gary did We were looking at some news coverage of
Speaker 1: an event and there was a woman and she had
Speaker 1: a shell type neckline of her dress and you could
Speaker 1: see her bikini tan line as well, and she also
Speaker 1: had a nice cross, nice cross with Jesus right there
Speaker 1: on that cross.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Jesus.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was a crucis, except that would
Speaker 1: be weird, right, I guess.
Speaker 3: I don't know. If you're into that, it's cool too.
Speaker 1: But she had a cross on and I said, that's
Speaker 1: a little bit of cleavage. That's a little bit too
Speaker 1: much cleavage. And you said, that's not too much cleavage.
Speaker 1: And I said, I think about an inch of cleavage
Speaker 1: is good. I feel like she's got an inch and
Speaker 1: a half. That might be too much cleavage. And you said, no,
Speaker 1: as long as the cleavage isn't bigger than the cross.
Speaker 3: And I thought, what a brilliant piece of advice.
Speaker 1: That's make sure, ladies, when you head out for Easter weekend,
Speaker 1: that you're cleavage, that you're showing not bigger than the
Speaker 1: cross that you're wearing.
Speaker 3: You got to do a real, a real look. Seat
Speaker 3: in an amasement.
Speaker 2: Measure it if you want to, right, I mean, if
Speaker 2: it's that close, you can measure it.
Speaker 1: I mean think about, you know, Elvira, and how big
Speaker 1: her cross was and how cleavage she showed still adhered
Speaker 1: to the rule.
Speaker 2: Elvira, Yeah, the mistress of that oh you're talking about.
Speaker 3: I mean there are women.
Speaker 1: That wear big ass crosses and they show a lot
Speaker 1: of cleavage but still adhere to the rule within the rules.
Speaker 3: You wear a bigger cross, you get more cleavage.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I did bring up Parker Center this week.
Speaker 1: Alvira's not that much of a stretch living in the
Speaker 1: late eighties again in eighty nine.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: Part of the the changing toneging issues surrounding the Menendez
Speaker 2: case is this breed young breed of people. I would
Speaker 2: argue that most of them are women that support these guys. Now,
Speaker 2: there is a whole TikTok Instagram account called Menendez Legacy,
Speaker 2: and it's run by four people who wish to remain
Speaker 2: anonymous for multiple reasons. But they are all in their twenties,
Speaker 2: so they didn't get to see this either, did I.
Speaker 3: That's the thing. I don't think that's an excuse.
Speaker 1: I wasn't paying attention to the Menendez case in real time.
Speaker 1: I only was brought in the loop when the first
Speaker 1: seventeen documentaries were made of this whole thing.
Speaker 2: And you make a good point, though, there's a laziness
Speaker 2: when it comes to stories like this. People want to
Speaker 2: believe what they want to believe, Yeah, and they're going
Speaker 2: to pick and choose the facts of a case. I
Speaker 2: hope that that's not the way I do things, and
Speaker 2: I make an attempt to try to find different aspects
Speaker 2: of stories so that I have a better picture of
Speaker 2: what I know and what I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's also a change in parenting where
Speaker 1: the you know, these parents were going to cut them
Speaker 1: off and the whole bit, and how that's awful, and
Speaker 1: you know that that's the way things were done in
Speaker 1: the late eighties. You know, you became eighteen, get out
Speaker 1: of the house, get a job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there weren't questions about how long you were going
Speaker 2: to stay in the house, right, it was time to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you don't get to spend the family money anymore.
Speaker 1: You want you want something great, go get a job.
Speaker 1: Now that's cruel. Now, that's like, uh, you know, child endangerment.
Speaker 2: There is a an aspect of this the people that
Speaker 2: are behind this, they are leaning into the sexual assault allegations.
Speaker 2: One of the account man says that she was a
Speaker 2: survivor of sexual assault and says, I know how it
Speaker 2: feels to have that power taken away from you.
Speaker 3: But again, that's awesome, but that's not what happened here.
Speaker 2: Well, and that's also not an that's not a it's
Speaker 2: not a defense for taking a shotgun and killing your parents.
Speaker 1: No, and then the question why, Okay, if the father,
Speaker 1: which is very very minuscule chance that a father molests
Speaker 1: his sons one and then both, that's another minuscule chance,
Speaker 1: and then you're killing the mom too, And then their
Speaker 1: whole self defense thing falls apart when you look at
Speaker 1: the pre meditation and the oh mom's not dead yet,
Speaker 1: let me go to the trunk of the car, get
Speaker 1: more bullets, come back, reload and finish her off. None
Speaker 1: of that is speaking to self defense. But that's not
Speaker 1: And I understand people have trauma and if they see
Speaker 1: a little bit of their trauma and someone else and
Speaker 1: they want to fight for that person, I get it.
Speaker 3: That's not what this is.
Speaker 1: These were two spoiled brats, probably dealing with the narcissism
Speaker 1: that was passed on by their father.
Speaker 3: Guy wasn't the best guy in the world.
Speaker 1: But they shot and killed them because they weren't getting
Speaker 1: what they wanted financially from their parents.
Speaker 3: And that's all there is to it.
Speaker 1: And look no further than the shopping spree they went
Speaker 1: on in the days the hours after their parents were
Speaker 1: shot and killed. Oh and psh, whatever the fact that
Speaker 1: they lied from the from I mean, every part of
Speaker 1: this points to them premeditatively shooting and killing their parents
Speaker 1: for financial gain. Every single part of this. The lying
Speaker 1: after the fact saying it was a mob hit. I mean,
Speaker 1: they've been lying about this before the bodies were even bodies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's still it's not to say that they
Speaker 2: may not have been rehabilitated or changed their ways while
Speaker 2: they were in prison. That'll do a lot of crazy
Speaker 2: things to people. But is it enough to justify them
Speaker 2: getting out. We talked earlier, we talked yesterday actually about
Speaker 2: the unfavorability ratings that Karen Bass, the mayor of La
Speaker 2: saw spike after the fires. We're going to talk with
Speaker 2: the head of the UCLA Luskin School of Public Affairs,
Speaker 2: longtime LA City councilmen, longtime La County Board of Supervisors
Speaker 2: member Zevyerslavsky.
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Speaker 1: I always enjoyed covering zev yar Slavsky because he always
Speaker 1: seemed to me to be a no BS guy. Served
Speaker 1: on the La City Council, La County Board of Supervisors
Speaker 1: as well. Now is at UCLA's Luskin School of Public
Speaker 1: Affairs and was quoted this week because Karen Bass's ratings
Speaker 1: did what we thought her ratings would do when she
Speaker 1: kind of skirted responsibility and any accountability post fires. As
Speaker 1: we've reported to you, we sat here, we got the
Speaker 1: ridiculously awful fire weather forecast that Monday, and we knew
Speaker 1: that it was going to be a really bad week
Speaker 1: for LA when you saw what those those wins were
Speaker 1: doing as they came down from the mountains, slamming into
Speaker 1: the populated areas, and it was just a recipe for disaster.
Speaker 1: And she went ahead with her planned trip, her planned
Speaker 1: international trip, and then came back and kind of didn't
Speaker 1: known it and had to play ketchup. So those ratings
Speaker 1: that have come out showed just that that they had
Speaker 1: they show a very unfavorable opinion of the mayor.
Speaker 3: Post fires.
Speaker 2: Joining us now to talk about it, zev Yaroslavsky again,
Speaker 2: the supervisor, former supervisor, former city council member, runs the
Speaker 2: LA Initiative there at Luskin School of Public Affairs. Thanks
Speaker 2: for taking time for us today.
Speaker 7: Thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Let's discuss there was a comment that you made. We
Speaker 2: talked yesterday about the numbers, specifically that her unfavorability ratings
Speaker 2: had shot up by seventeen points, and you said, obviously
Speaker 2: that's the bad news, that she's taking the brunt of this,
Speaker 2: But you told the La Times the good news for
Speaker 2: her is this happened overnight, and by performing well in recovery,
Speaker 2: she could win back some of the people that she
Speaker 2: has lost. How listen, you've been in LA City and
Speaker 2: LA County politics for a few decades. How do you
Speaker 2: begin to do that in an environment like Los Angeles.
Speaker 7: Well, I think if she'll be judged by her performance
Speaker 7: going forward. The election is fourteen months away, the primary
Speaker 7: election June of next year, and if she has a
Speaker 7: successful recovery, if the recovery goes at the pace that
Speaker 7: she predicted, and that others would like or even faster.
Speaker 7: You know. I think the anger and the frustration and
Speaker 7: the fear that permeated the fire areas and beyond. By
Speaker 7: the way, that's what our surveys showed, that there's a
Speaker 7: trauma that went county wide that if she can turn
Speaker 7: that around and get the recovery going is I think
Speaker 7: she could turn it around. I wouldn't write her obituary yet.
Speaker 7: Fourteen months is an eternity, especially in this political environment.
Speaker 7: So I mean, she clearly had a rough beginning of
Speaker 7: twenty twenty five. I don't think anybody could argue with that.
Speaker 7: And I'm sure if she had it to do over again,
Speaker 7: she would do a number of things differently, so would
Speaker 7: I on a lot of things that I did. But
Speaker 7: you can recover by performing, you know, the best politics
Speaker 7: is doing your job well. And if she can do
Speaker 7: that over the next fourteen months, I think people are
Speaker 7: forgiving of resilient people who are resilient and can turn
Speaker 7: things around. Now it's going to be a steep mountain
Speaker 7: for her to climb because there's a lot. First of all,
Speaker 7: she's only responsible for the Palisades portion of it. The
Speaker 7: Altadena part is not in the city of La So
Speaker 7: you've got two fires, you know, fire disasters that were
Speaker 7: going on in January, and they both have to be addressed.
Speaker 7: So I'm not ready to write her obituary yet. But
Speaker 7: there's no question she paid a political price at the beginning.
Speaker 7: The mayors always do, no matter what the circumstances, when
Speaker 7: things go bad, the mayors are always the ones county
Speaker 7: countrywide who will take the brunt and you know, the
Speaker 7: rest of us kind of duck. And that's the price
Speaker 7: you pay for being the mayor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not willing to write her obituary yet either,
Speaker 1: just because she's got the staying power.
Speaker 3: I mean, she's been around for a long time.
Speaker 1: It was more than twenty years ago when she first
Speaker 1: came on the scene in the State Assembly. So she
Speaker 1: knows how to weather the storms, even if it's your
Speaker 1: own doing type of storm.
Speaker 3: Zev.
Speaker 1: You were instrumental with the nineteen eighty four Olympic Games,
Speaker 1: and you have been I believe, advising this time around
Speaker 1: as well. You've got some consternation between the Mayor's office
Speaker 1: and the La County Board of Supervisors.
Speaker 3: I wanted to talk about it. Does that play a
Speaker 3: role as.
Speaker 1: The Olympics comes to town, and also with the fires
Speaker 1: and the permitting process. I know that we are a
Speaker 1: no build type Olympics, But can you stick around and
Speaker 1: answer some of those questions?
Speaker 7: Yeah, briefly because I've got to do something else in
Speaker 7: about ten minutes, so I'd be happy to stick around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, wellt'tle just do it right now? Then?
Speaker 1: Olympics on the horizon, and you don't have the best
Speaker 1: relationship right now between city Hall and the Board of supervisors.
Speaker 3: Does that play a role?
Speaker 7: I don't think the Olympics is a county versus city
Speaker 7: issue that I think that's when the homelessness area where
Speaker 7: there's been a breach. But on the Olympics. Look, in
Speaker 7: nineteen eighty four, we passed a measure. In nineteen seventy eight,
Speaker 7: we passed a charter amendment that prohibited the city from
Speaker 7: using taxpayer money gone to write the Olympics. That measure
Speaker 7: does not apply to the twenty twenty eight Games, and
Speaker 7: in fact, the city council and the previous mayor signed
Speaker 7: a promise, a legally binding promise, that they would cover
Speaker 7: any cost overruns that the Olympics hole generate. Now, it
Speaker 7: shouldn't run a deficit because they don't have to build
Speaker 7: any major venues. They have to do some things, they
Speaker 7: have to build a track at the coliseum in assuming
Speaker 7: pool at SOFI, but you don't have to build a
Speaker 7: new stadium or stad and so my concern is what
Speaker 7: we don't know. There's not a whole lot of transparency.
Speaker 7: I'm not even sure the city knows or the mayor
Speaker 7: and the city council know exactly where the revenues and
Speaker 7: the expenditures are going to come from. And I think
Speaker 7: that at some point soon the taxpayers have a right
Speaker 7: to know what the fiscal situation is at the Olympics
Speaker 7: because they're on the hook for it. If you wanted
Speaker 7: to borrow money from a bank, the bank would say, yeah,
Speaker 7: we'd love to lend you money. How are you going
Speaker 7: to pay it back? And you'd have to tell them
Speaker 7: and if they're satisfied, they'd lend you the money. If
Speaker 7: they're not satisfied, they wouldn't. Well, the city has already
Speaker 7: made a commitment on this, and nobody else has not.
Speaker 7: The county, not Oklahoma City where the softball is going
Speaker 7: to be, not Long Beach where sailing is going to be.
Speaker 7: It's all in the city of Los Angeles taxpayers. And
Speaker 7: as I say, I don't think there's any reason why
Speaker 7: this Olympics should not make a profit, barring any COVID
Speaker 7: or major catastrophe, but they need to be a little
Speaker 7: more transparent about revenues and expenditures here.
Speaker 1: We haven't even dove into that mess.
Speaker 2: As soon as we as soon as we finished covering
Speaker 2: one story, we get another one out of out of
Speaker 2: the Olympics. That's right.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a blessing that they don't have to
Speaker 1: build as much with the county strapped to the permitting
Speaker 1: process as it is with the fire.
Speaker 2: Well, zev R. Slovsky, we appreciate your time. We thanks
Speaker 2: for thank you for you know, serving on every every
Speaker 2: board of government over in the La County. It seems
Speaker 2: in the last several decades.
Speaker 7: It was a privilege.
Speaker 2: And do you still you still sport that mustache, don't you?
Speaker 7: Oh? Yeah, okay, I don't think i'll I'll ever take that.
Speaker 7: My grandfather a beautiful mustache.
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful mustache for a beautiful man. Thank you
Speaker 2: for that. We appreciate what I mean, Grandpa was a
Speaker 2: beautiful man. You are to never mind I made it
Speaker 2: weird of Yourslavsky there get ahead of the list. The
Speaker 2: Luscian School over at u C l A and longtime
Speaker 2: city council member, a long time county.
Speaker 3: Is that a Mustang? I think that's a Ford Mustang?
Speaker 5: Got it?
Speaker 2: White Ford Mustang that's being chased on the four or
Speaker 2: five South.
Speaker 1: They're in the shoulder, they're right and the shoulder. Oh,
Speaker 1: four or five South, they're pushing Washington. You're going to
Speaker 1: get into La X traffic West l A.
Speaker 2: It's going to be a mess.
Speaker 3: My goodness, we'll come back and tell you more.
Speaker 1: I could tell you where to get into a pursuit
Speaker 1: with the cops.
Speaker 2: Four or five South is not.
Speaker 3: Not be part of my training guide.
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Speaker 1: Got a Ford Mustang? I mean, how Unamerican is this guy?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: You've got a Ford Mustang? Sir, there's some getty up
Speaker 1: in your pickup or whatever. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And you're just gonna just gonna slow roll it, just
Speaker 1: gonna weak stream this pursuit.
Speaker 2: Okay. So the LAPD has been following what we believe
Speaker 2: is a domestic violence suspect through a bunch of different
Speaker 2: parts of West La, up and down the four h five,
Speaker 2: got onto the Marina Expressway right here.
Speaker 1: Minda now and Marina delay. Yeah, he's right next to
Speaker 1: the nursery. I used to go to that nursery. Way overpriced.
Speaker 1: Oh it's changed hands, it's a different nursery now I'm
Speaker 1: betting it's still overpriced.
Speaker 2: Oh you oh, I guess you could see the sign there, yea.
Speaker 2: So he pulled over in what was some pretty thick traffic,
Speaker 2: pulled over and is just sitting in the car. And
Speaker 2: again it's a late model White Ford.
Speaker 1: This is going to be a mess for traffic because
Speaker 1: there's a one way in and one way out of
Speaker 1: that area of Marina del Rey and it's already impacted.
Speaker 1: Then told the ninety one is that the night it's
Speaker 1: the ninety Excuse me, the ninety is completely shut down.
Speaker 1: Cars have nowhere to go because if you know it,
Speaker 1: there's there's no other streets side streets from the freeway
Speaker 1: to getting there at mindan, Now, you're just stuck there
Speaker 1: while this Unamerican guy sits in his Ford Mustang and
Speaker 1: doesn't answer.
Speaker 3: The police requests.
Speaker 1: So you got to get out of the car with
Speaker 1: your hand through red head and hit the pavement.
Speaker 2: One of the one of the helicopter shots from TV
Speaker 2: is actually looking through the windshield and the guy's pretty active.
Speaker 2: I don't know what he's doing in there, but he's
Speaker 2: been moving around quite a bit in that front seat.
Speaker 2: He's not just sitting there calmly. They have also not
Speaker 2: shut down minda now at that intersection which is just
Speaker 2: ahead of them, and I feel like that's going to
Speaker 2: happen any moment.
Speaker 3: Now would they shut that down?
Speaker 2: If they have to start shooting that guy, They're gonna
Speaker 2: not want a bunch of people in the background.
Speaker 1: It's pretty far away from where they're at though.
Speaker 3: I mean that's a good thirty yards.
Speaker 2: Bullets go far.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna miss. They're right there. They're not going
Speaker 1: to shoot the guy.
Speaker 2: Well, those are the old days, you mean Wednesday. Wednesday
Speaker 2: was the old days when they were shooting people at
Speaker 2: the end of a pursuit.
Speaker 3: Well then you shouldn't. You should do it right if they're.
Speaker 2: Going to do it different agency, I suppose, But again
Speaker 2: we're seeing what is the end of this pursuit.
Speaker 3: There's a guy. I love it. Some of the cars
Speaker 3: are going around this.
Speaker 2: They're like, f this.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to be held hostage by this standoff.
Speaker 3: So the car's driving around.
Speaker 1: The black and whites that have corded this guy off
Speaker 1: on the shoulder of the ninety.
Speaker 2: How's that happening? How are they not?
Speaker 1: They're flagging them through because there's there's at least twenty
Speaker 1: cars that are in between the freeway there and minda
Speaker 1: now that intersection and you gotta those are the cars
Speaker 1: they need to move out of there.
Speaker 2: Okay, the doors are open.
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Oh, there he is saying something. He's yelling.
Speaker 3: It looks like an older individual.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, just bald, just bald, just yelling, bald.
Speaker 3: Oh what's he got in his hand there?
Speaker 6: Huh?
Speaker 3: What's in that left hand?
Speaker 2: He's wearing a glove. That's just like he's wearing a
Speaker 2: batting glove.
Speaker 1: Is that a driving glove you wear? Do you wear
Speaker 1: a driving glove if you've got a Ford Mustang.
Speaker 2: Only on his left hand? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He's Oh, sir, you should not be reaching for anything.
Speaker 3: What are you doing?
Speaker 2: Oh he's asking a lighter.
Speaker 3: Oh he wants to smoke a cigarette. I get it.
Speaker 1: I used to smoke if I was being taken into custody.
Speaker 1: I totally want a cigarette first. He's one hundred percent
Speaker 1: doing a lot of sign language, so I don't know
Speaker 1: if he wants a cigarette or maybe it's a joint.
Speaker 1: It could be a joint, I guess. But then you
Speaker 1: don't ask the cops like you can ask the cops
Speaker 1: for a lighter if you have a cigarette. You can't
Speaker 1: ask the cops for a lighter if you're smoking a joint.
Speaker 2: Right back out, out, back, out of the car.
Speaker 3: Oh, sir, he is on one, do you think so?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got way too much energy for ten fifty
Speaker 1: eight on a Friday morning.
Speaker 2: He is wearing a glove on his left hand, which
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense. But it also looks like he
Speaker 2: might have had a phone.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if he was driving like he
Speaker 1: was on one though he was driving pretty slow speed.
Speaker 1: You one hundred miles now he's there's no lighters in
Speaker 1: a Ford Mustang anymore.
Speaker 3: I guess they don't put lighters in the cars anymore.
Speaker 2: That would be funny. If there is one, he just
Speaker 2: doesn't know how to use it. Yeah, I mean he
Speaker 2: might still be that.
Speaker 1: That was always such a fun function of a vehicle. Look,
Speaker 1: there's a cigarette lighter right here, so user friendly. Not anymore,
Speaker 1: no cigarette lighters and no am radio. What are we now, folks?
Speaker 3: Screwed?
Speaker 2: Well, we don't have as much lung cancer as we
Speaker 2: did and.
Speaker 3: You don't get to hear all this.
Speaker 2: All right, We'll keep an eye on whatever's going on
Speaker 2: with this guy. Did we ever get a location? Top
Speaker 2: says a lot On Haley Joel Osmond after his run
Speaker 2: jail jail in Mammoth.
Speaker 1: You can't yell at the cops about Nazis and stuff?
Speaker 3: Was that what he was doing?
Speaker 2: Or was it Nazis?
Speaker 3: Was it was it black people?
Speaker 2: What was it he was? I think he was pretty
Speaker 2: free with all of them.
Speaker 1: Ah, like a mel Gibson situation like that, got it.
Speaker 2: Keep an eye on this end of the chase here
Speaker 2: on the Marina Expressway right near mind Now, in the
Speaker 2: del Rey area, they have a guy who's been popping
Speaker 2: in and out of the driver's seat asking for a
Speaker 2: lighter for his cigarette.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're going to Marina and Delray, go through
Speaker 1: Santa Monica.
Speaker 2: And take a lighter with you, would you? I need
Speaker 2: some help.
Speaker 3: Rare to see someone smoke these days.
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