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Speaker 2: we're going to begin with a conversation about protein. Too
Speaker 2: much protein ingested by human beings can actually shorten a
Speaker 2: person's lifespan. Now, I know, you know a lot of
Speaker 2: people are really dialed into this conversation because the purveyors
Speaker 2: of protein supplementation and all of that, and these high
Speaker 2: protein diets have pretty much brainwashed our nation to believing
Speaker 2: that we're all protein deficient and if we don't eat it,
Speaker 2: we'll die. I think the average person in the United
Speaker 2: States gets way too much protein. And for the latest
Speaker 2: retreaded high protein diet fad knockoffs. You've heard of them, Keto, Carnivore, Atkins,
Speaker 2: Doucan Paleo, and you hear about these, and you watch
Speaker 2: these reality shows Naked and Afraid, survivor Alone Man Versus
Speaker 2: Wild outlasts.
Speaker 3: They're all on television.
Speaker 2: I've seen some of them, of course, and the first
Speaker 2: thing that happens day one when they're foraging around after
Speaker 2: their appetites starting to increase because they haven't eaten or
Speaker 2: drank anything. Oh, I gotta get protein or I'm gonna die.
Speaker 2: I gotta get calories.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna die. It's always about protein. I'm gonna die.
Speaker 2: Never about fat, never about carbs, Always about protein. Which,
Speaker 2: as a Board certified Clinical Nutrition Double Board certified Clinical nutrition,
Speaker 2: I just shake my head and I think, geez, congratulations
Speaker 2: to the purveyors of protein. They really got people brainwashed
Speaker 2: on this, and really a lot of people don't realize
Speaker 2: they're sabotaging their overall health by eating way too much protein.
Speaker 2: I'm not alone in this, doctor Joseph Anton. He also
Speaker 2: is a believer and is trying to get the message
Speaker 2: out that eating too much protein could actually shorten your
Speaker 2: life span, shorten it.
Speaker 3: He's a longevity expert, but he is not alone.
Speaker 2: Experts are now revealing how protein habits might impact your
Speaker 2: lifespan more than you think. Protein, of course, is an
Speaker 2: essential nutrient for optimal health and well being, and between
Speaker 2: a variety of le meats, hopefully organic eggs, beans, nuts, seeds,
Speaker 2: and even vegetables have protein in them, and so much
Speaker 2: more to choose from in the diet. There are a
Speaker 2: lot of options when it comes to sourcing protein. Unfortunately, though,
Speaker 2: an over consumption of protein can actually sabotage your health
Speaker 2: and longevity efforts. That according to Harvard trained physician Healthy
Speaker 2: Aging expert doctor Joseph Anton, who also has a master's
Speaker 2: degree in Public Health policy MD and a PhD behind
Speaker 2: his name, so he's a very learned individual. He knows
Speaker 2: about this stuff. He says, an I quote, consuming excessive protein,
Speaker 2: particularly excess animal protein sources, raises up. Get this, now
Speaker 2: here's the money shot raises up IGF one levels.
Speaker 3: IGF one levels.
Speaker 2: You don't need to know what that is a lot
Speaker 2: of it, even though it stands for insulin growth factor
Speaker 2: insulin growth factor one. Basically it's a hormone that plays
Speaker 2: a crucial role in the growth and cellular proliferation, and
Speaker 2: excessive intake of protein will be converted, by the way,
Speaker 2: just so you know, to sugar in the body and
Speaker 2: stored its fat and place a big time strain on
Speaker 2: your kidneys, your liver, your bones, and your digestive system
Speaker 2: and your heart. So when you get more, you know,
Speaker 2: it's one of these things where the purveyors of these
Speaker 2: high protein diets, if a little is good, a lot's better,
Speaker 2: take more, please. I mean, it's amazing to me how
Speaker 2: they get away with this. But those of us who
Speaker 2: understand the body physiology know better than that. Yes we
Speaker 2: need protein, Yes it's quintessential as a macro food element,
Speaker 2: but we get too much of it. But what does
Speaker 2: the science behind the negative effects of eating too much protein?
Speaker 3: Say?
Speaker 2: Well, how about this IGF one? How's it affecting us?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: The longevity experts are concerned that a great number of
Speaker 2: Americans may be consuming way too much protein based on
Speaker 2: what reality of all these questions, questions that experts are
Speaker 2: finally asking, including the best approach to eating the right
Speaker 2: amount of protein. That's what it's about. Get the right amount,
Speaker 2: don't get more. You know, more is better because it's
Speaker 2: going to put an imbalance onto your body and it's
Speaker 2: going to increase his IGF one, insulin like growth hormone
Speaker 2: that could actually undermine your health and shorten your lifespan,
Speaker 2: and in the process of that stress certain vital organs
Speaker 2: and glands that you may not realize. Excessive amount of
Speaker 2: this particular hormone, IGF one, is harmful to your longevity,
Speaker 2: and it promotes cellular growth over repair, meaning increasing the
Speaker 2: risk of mutations, decreasing what is called atophagy, a cellular
Speaker 2: cleanup process the key to healthy aging, and it increases
Speaker 2: the risk of chronic diseases. That according to doctor Anton, MDPHD,
Speaker 2: foods that are high in animal proteins such as eggs
Speaker 2: and meat and even milk, stimulate this IGF one level,
Speaker 2: meaning that the more you eat, the more you risk
Speaker 2: increasing this hormone. That when it's in excess, it actually
Speaker 2: shortens your lifespan. And I might also add it increases
Speaker 2: fat in the body. And we'll get to this IGF thing,
Speaker 2: because there's something related to this.
Speaker 3: You remember.
Speaker 2: About a week ago it was announced that former President
Speaker 2: Joe Biden has been diagnosed with an extreme challenge with
Speaker 2: prostate cancer. This relates to it, folks. We'll get to
Speaker 2: that a little bit later. But while it's essential in
Speaker 2: childhood of course to have protein and adulthood for muscle repair,
Speaker 2: chronically elevated levels of this hormone IGF one and adults
Speaker 2: has been linked to an accelerated biological aging and therefore
Speaker 2: an increased risk of age related conditions, all kinds of
Speaker 2: them that according to this doctor Anton, who's an MDPHD.
Speaker 2: He says, I call this condition diabetes of protein, whereby
Speaker 2: this high IGF level perpetuated by excessive protein intake ages
Speaker 2: the body way beyond what the muscles actually require. And that's,
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, where the problem begins. We're eating way
Speaker 2: too much protein, especially when you on top of the
Speaker 2: diet that you're taking in with the protein, you're on
Speaker 2: top of that taking tons of animal protein powders in,
Speaker 2: which can also exacerbate the problem. Now, granted, there are
Speaker 2: needs of protein when certain things happen. If people who
Speaker 2: are more active need more protein, people who are lifting
Speaker 2: weights and doing resistance training. Children as they're growing, they
Speaker 2: may require a little bit more protein. Older adults may
Speaker 2: require a little bit of extra protein for sure, or
Speaker 2: you're going through something like a burn, getting over a
Speaker 2: burn or something. Of course, protein is important's in a
Speaker 2: sense nutrient. So a well balanced plant forward approach is
Speaker 2: really where it's at. You got to know that you
Speaker 2: have options. You have options in the form of plant proteins.
Speaker 2: But these people out there, these people who are interpreting
Speaker 2: this that protein just because it satiates our appetite, you
Speaker 2: should eat more of it. And you have people on
Speaker 2: the television that are selling something like the Chainsmoker, Jennifer
Speaker 2: Aniston habitual weight loss deceiver, and Oprah Winfrey same thing.
Speaker 2: You don't know where to go or what to do.
Speaker 2: But I'm here to tell you that you're probably getting
Speaker 2: enough protein. You're probably eating way too many sugars in
Speaker 2: your diet. They should be removed, and too many refined
Speaker 2: carbohydrates and ultra processed foods. Yes, they should be curved
Speaker 2: back or cut out. But the protein situation, that's a
Speaker 2: whole other thing. We'll get doctor Adam Rockmanduayan on this.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned on Doctor Bob Martin.
Speaker 1: You need.
Speaker 2: Yes, your food is your medicine first and foremost welcome
Speaker 2: or welcome back to this hour the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
Speaker 2: We thank you for tuning into the program. Doctor Adam
Speaker 2: Brockman joining me here now to talk about this first
Speaker 2: subject that we covered, uh the issue of too much
Speaker 2: protein in a person's diet can shorten their lifespan. Big
Speaker 2: article that was authored by doctor Anton who's a medical doctor, PhD,
Speaker 2: master's degree expert on this topic. He's saying, hey, look, folks,
Speaker 2: you eat too much protein, it will come back to
Speaker 2: haunt you in the form of accelerated expression of a
Speaker 2: hormone called IGF one, insulin like growth factor one, and
Speaker 2: that hormone is of course crucial in growth and cell proliferation,
Speaker 2: but when it's tapped into too often, it can create problems.
Speaker 3: Doctor Adam Brockman, what say.
Speaker 4: You, sir, Yeah, Well, it's important to have protein in
Speaker 4: the diet. We all need it. We do. The American
Speaker 4: diet is over consuming it. And when that happens, it's
Speaker 4: it's hard on the body to process this protein, so
Speaker 4: you end up with kidney strain. It's a product, a
Speaker 4: byproduct of protein metabolism is urea, and if you have
Speaker 4: too much of that, it's it and you have a
Speaker 4: pre existing kidney condition. It's really really puts a strain
Speaker 4: on those kidneys. Also, dehydration. With this processing of protein
Speaker 4: in the body, the body requires more water to eliminate
Speaker 4: the waste products, and then you have you have a
Speaker 4: lot of issues with dehydration. And here's something that I
Speaker 4: don't think anybody thinks about is with bone health. And
Speaker 4: there's studies out there that suggest that when you have
Speaker 4: a high protein intake, particularly those from animal sources, it
Speaker 4: may lead to an increase in calcium, extreme excretion in urine,
Speaker 4: which is taken from the bones itself. So that was
Speaker 4: something that I found was interesting when I read some
Speaker 4: of those studies. There's other ones too, digestive issues, nutrient imbalances,
Speaker 4: And how about this one the weightlifters, the bad breath
Speaker 4: syndrome with that the protein. Yeah, you know, so those
Speaker 4: that's an automatic signal that you're getting way too much
Speaker 4: protein in your diet when you have bad breath associated
Speaker 4: with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: If you see a weightlifter chewing gum, you'll know why
Speaker 2: stay out of that range of that wafting through the air.
Speaker 2: Rot that's coming out, which is fermented protein that's rotting
Speaker 2: in their gut coming back up the other direction.
Speaker 3: Not good. No, Look, this show is not anti protein.
Speaker 2: We're propro it's, however, needs to be balanced. And when
Speaker 2: you have these crazy off the map, excessive you know,
Speaker 2: fads that are running, we need to come in and
Speaker 2: intervene on it by basically trying to help people better
Speaker 2: understand where they're coming from and where they're usually coming
Speaker 2: from is they're usually pimping their books in some manner. Yes,
Speaker 2: there's no question even with a high protein diet, initially,
Speaker 2: oh you're gonna lose weight, You're gonna lose water weight.
Speaker 2: It's a very successful way to satiate your diet, and
Speaker 2: it's very necessary to satiate your diet so that you
Speaker 2: your brain and your gut axis understands that you've met
Speaker 2: your nutritional needs. But what happens is people get the
Speaker 2: message that if a little is good, a lot more
Speaker 2: is better for you. And that couldn't be further from
Speaker 2: the truth when it comes to taking in excess in protein,
Speaker 2: which most Americans do, but they also take in way
Speaker 2: too many carbs and too much sugar. That's where the
Speaker 2: biggest problem is in my mind. And secondary to that,
Speaker 2: of course, they're trying to slam the protein because they
Speaker 2: don't think they get enough eating. You know, bacon for breakfast,
Speaker 2: hamburgers for lunch, and steak for dinner.
Speaker 3: Oh that's not enough.
Speaker 2: Let's get the way protein out here and start dumping
Speaker 2: it on our salads and making those smoothies that have
Speaker 2: like fifty grams in every smoothie. And now we have
Speaker 2: kidneys that are crying. We have bones that are deteriorating.
Speaker 2: We have this IGF one insulin growth factor like one
Speaker 2: hormone off the map, increasing the risk of well, the
Speaker 2: big C and shortening one's lifespan.
Speaker 3: So what do you do?
Speaker 2: What do you learn? Well, first of all, it's all
Speaker 2: about moderation. It's all about reasonableness. It's all about not
Speaker 2: getting sucked into those fads that somebody is pimping their
Speaker 2: book or now pimping their own private line of supplements
Speaker 2: related to whatever it is messaging that they're doing.
Speaker 3: That's what you got to stay away from.
Speaker 2: And just to give you kind of an idea, ladies
Speaker 2: and gentlemen, on protein.
Speaker 3: Intake, the dietary guidelines of it children.
Speaker 2: For example, children between the ages of four and eight,
Speaker 2: they need about nineteen grams of total protein today.
Speaker 3: How do you base that?
Speaker 2: Well, let's say an egg has like six grams of
Speaker 2: protein in.
Speaker 3: It one egg.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's sort of like the gold standard of how
Speaker 2: we measure protein. Four to eight years of age, children
Speaker 2: nine to thirteen about thirty four grams of protein. See
Speaker 2: how it's going up. And the older you get, the
Speaker 2: larger you get, and the more active you get. Of course,
Speaker 2: that's when things start to happen. Females fourteen years of
Speaker 2: age and older about forty six grams. Males fourteen to
Speaker 2: eighteen fifty two grams of protein. Why, because males carry
Speaker 2: more muscle mass, need higher requirements of protein. Males nineteen
Speaker 2: years of age and older about fifty six grams of
Speaker 2: protein per day.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: And some of these males that are in their nineteen
Speaker 2: twenties and their twenties and they're in the gym, they're
Speaker 2: slamming one hundred to two hundred grams of protein a
Speaker 2: day because well, somebody told them to, you know, a book,
Speaker 2: an influencer on the internet that have no knowledge of
Speaker 2: anything besides whatever it is they're trying to sell you. Yes,
Speaker 2: if you're weightlifting in the gym there, does you do
Speaker 2: require more protein. You're ripping more muscle, there's more damage
Speaker 2: and trauma to the muscle. You need more protein there. Pregnancy,
Speaker 2: in lectation, more protein. Older people need more protein, no
Speaker 2: question about it. But not to the extent that you're
Speaker 2: going to create a problem with escalating this IGF one
Speaker 2: insulin like growth hormone, which is a hormone that's crucial
Speaker 2: to growth and sell proliferation. But with anything, just like water,
Speaker 2: if you get too much, you can drown. Just like water,
Speaker 2: you get too much of this insulin growth factor one
Speaker 2: being excreted, made and stimulated. It accelerates aging process. And
Speaker 2: most people doctor Brockman, I dare say, are going to be.
Speaker 3: Going, WHOA what.
Speaker 2: I've never heard that before. I didn't know that. I
Speaker 2: thought more. You can't get enough protein. You can't eat
Speaker 2: enough protein. There's no possible side effects of taking in
Speaker 2: too much protein because that which you don't use, you
Speaker 2: just sort of like defecated. Is that your knowledge? Is
Speaker 2: that the kind of feedback that you get from your
Speaker 2: patients and your understanding, Doctor Brocklin.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's hard to process proteins, so it takes
Speaker 4: more work for the body to do that. So so
Speaker 4: in terms of aging a little bit more rapidly. Yeah,
Speaker 4: if if all you are eating is uh or is
Speaker 4: a protein diet, then than you cause it does cause
Speaker 4: for concern. It's a good mix of I know we
Speaker 4: talk about it often. Those those good healthy fats like
Speaker 4: are found in salmon and omego threes. We need those
Speaker 4: type of things, and there it can't be just protein.
Speaker 4: And I know you mentioned the plant based proteins and
Speaker 4: if if you're not getting uh that that combination of
Speaker 4: all of them together, which do it is occur? It
Speaker 4: does occur during uh when you eat animal products, you
Speaker 4: get that complete protein. The plant based proteins are usually
Speaker 4: a combination of those and they they're easier for the
Speaker 4: body to digest and healthier option overall for most people
Speaker 4: instead of bacon and and those type of things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I you the worst case. The worst case
Speaker 2: scenario is the guy that hears the you know, he
Speaker 2: sees a commercial in television. He's a couch straddler, He's
Speaker 2: got the channel changer in his hand, and he says, okay, oh,
Speaker 2: I see a product there and my beer belly, my gut.
Speaker 2: I just I'll just take this protein. I'll take this
Speaker 2: protein powder, stir of, stirred and some milk or some juice.
Speaker 2: Remain on the couch, just taking in more protein. That's
Speaker 2: the worst case scenario. He's not doing anything to increase
Speaker 2: muscle mass so that he has those burners, those metabolic
Speaker 2: burners in the mitochondria of his body to burn the
Speaker 2: calories that he needs. That's the worst case scenario. So
Speaker 2: protein's good, ladies and gentlemen, Excess protein not so good.
Speaker 2: Don't get too much. Find a clinical nutritisness who's not
Speaker 2: trying to sell you something, but giving you the right
Speaker 2: amount you need for yourself.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back.
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Speaker 7: Choose? Why are you waiting?
Speaker 4: If the time is.
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Speaker 8: Hello, doctor Bob, this is Joan from Bristol, Virginia. My
Speaker 8: question is how do you feel about ibramecton, humans taking
Speaker 8: ibramectin and what it can do? Thank you?
Speaker 2: All right, I'll start off with that, Doctor brockban I
Speaker 2: remet and is a drug that's been used for decades.
Speaker 2: They've used it for as a anti parasitic drug and
Speaker 2: veterinarian medicine for decades, and other other things. I think
Speaker 2: they've used it for malaria and other things. But one
Speaker 2: thing to know, and I'm hearing a lot about it
Speaker 2: and seeing a lot of it, and doctors are now
Speaker 2: talking about it, that this is a drug that won
Speaker 2: a Nobel Prize years and years ago because of its
Speaker 2: efficacy and safety. I have no problem with any drug
Speaker 2: when it's used appropriately. But you just have to believe
Speaker 2: that there's no panacea drug out there that you can
Speaker 2: use for any condition. It has to be a complete program.
Speaker 2: In other words, you've got to eat well, you've got
Speaker 2: to sleep well, you got to think well, you got
Speaker 2: to move well, and then you've got to have to
Speaker 2: have other things that can assist if you should those
Speaker 2: elements not be hitting the mark or not going to
Speaker 2: help you out, you need something to supplement that. And
Speaker 2: that's where either nutritional lovems come in or pharmaceutical drugs,
Speaker 2: which we're not against here on the show, but so
Speaker 2: often they're not used very judiciously and excessively. I've heard
Speaker 2: incredible stories with people using ivermectin for everything from the
Speaker 2: common cold to cancer, but I don't know if it's true.
Speaker 2: I've never used it, never prescribed it, but I'm hearing
Speaker 2: lots and lots of good things from it and about it.
Speaker 2: So maybe consult with the functional medicine doctor and get
Speaker 2: their impression of it too, and then make a decision.
Speaker 3: Doctor Brockman, what do you have to say, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Doctor Bob, I've seen some animal studies in vitro studies
Speaker 4: that have suggested that iverbectin may have antiitumor properties, including
Speaker 4: the potential to inhibit the growth of cancer cells or
Speaker 4: interfe interfere with those cancer cells else signaling. And we're
Speaker 4: talking about cancers like breast ovarian colon and even a glioblastoma,
Speaker 4: just to name a few. But again, these studies are preliminary,
Speaker 4: and just what you said, I haven't used it or
Speaker 4: prescribed it as well, but I have had patients that
Speaker 4: have used it, and I think there's more to be
Speaker 4: said about that. And that being said, that's what I
Speaker 4: love about the natural medicine model in what we always
Speaker 4: emphasize on the show, it's looking at the bigger picture
Speaker 4: of health, strengthening the immune system, supporting detoxification pathways, and
Speaker 4: reducing inflammation in the body. And whether it's with ivermectin
Speaker 4: or some other supplement or compound, it should be seen
Speaker 4: as part of a holistic, integrative type of strategy and
Speaker 4: not a magic bullet.
Speaker 3: Couldn't agree more.
Speaker 2: And if you're looking for alternatives to ivermectin, you could
Speaker 2: certainly look to some of the analogous in the plant
Speaker 2: Kingdom by using black walnut extract which is available in
Speaker 2: health food stores, or wormwood oil. They have a similar
Speaker 2: action as it relates to being anti parasitic, anti worm.
Speaker 2: I know ivery mechtins used has been used extensively in
Speaker 2: veterinarian medicine for decades and decades, but you know, all
Speaker 2: in all, I think if you look at it, I
Speaker 2: think it's pretty safe as long as a doctor is
Speaker 2: recommending it and monitoring your use of that drug. I
Speaker 2: think that's probably the best way to go. All right,
Speaker 2: Doctor Brockwin, who's next?
Speaker 4: Okay, we are, we're coming up on a break. I
Speaker 4: think we're going to get to Lynn from Kingsport, Tennessee
Speaker 4: after the break, Doctor Bob, So when we get back,
Speaker 4: we will talk with Lynn. Thank you. You're listening to
Speaker 4: the Doctor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, stand by, ladies and drummle. We'll get to though.
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Speaker 5: Lynn, Kingsport, Tennessee. I'm coming up on my sixty fifth birthday.
Speaker 5: I've been hypothyroid, not hashimotos, just hypothyroid for probably thirty
Speaker 5: thirty five years. I've been researching I want to get
Speaker 5: off the medicine. Of course, the doctors I want to
Speaker 5: go see are not covered by any insurance, and I
Speaker 5: will get testing done to confirm my results. But what
Speaker 5: I've been doing for the last four weeks is a
Speaker 5: combination of rival slab in zinc, selenium, and copper as
Speaker 5: a replacement for the sin floyd that I was on,
Speaker 5: I was taking one hundred and twelve micrograms. I'm taking
Speaker 5: this combination now with the intention of ending for adding
Speaker 5: some vitamin A, al tirasing and ashwaganda. I feel great.
Speaker 5: My weight has not changed. I'm not seeing any swelling
Speaker 5: in my face. I'm not feeling tired. If I eventually
Speaker 5: get these tests in another two to four weeks to
Speaker 5: confirm my levels and then go see a functional doctor,
Speaker 5: do you think this is a good course of action?
Speaker 3: Thanks you all right, well, thank you for your phone call.
Speaker 2: I can just share with you my experience with people
Speaker 2: who have hypothyroidism, and that is, once they've been on
Speaker 2: supplemental drug therapy of support for the thyroid gland for
Speaker 2: more than any year, will not successfully be able to
Speaker 2: get off of that. They're just not It's just not
Speaker 2: going to happen, in my opinion, and it's going to
Speaker 2: take a while before the symptoms of hypothyroidism show up.
Speaker 2: And you're doing some good things, don't get me wrong
Speaker 2: with the nutrients that you're taking in the body requires
Speaker 2: that to make the thyroid and all the other tissues
Speaker 2: responsible for your metabolism work correctly. But once those receptors
Speaker 2: within your thyroid glan have been used to artificial stimulation
Speaker 2: through synthroid. They basically say, oh, I can just go
Speaker 2: to sleep, somebody's doing it for me, and they shut down.
Speaker 2: So taking it for over a year is it's unlikely
Speaker 2: you're going to be able to start something natural and
Speaker 2: get off of it completely.
Speaker 4: Doctor Brockman, Yes, she mentioned first first of all, lenn
Speaker 4: a happy early sixty fifth birthday, but mentioning having that
Speaker 4: non hashimotives hyperthyroidism for over thirty years, we should soon. Yeah,
Speaker 4: she's been taking the synthroid for over a year, and
Speaker 4: as she's transitioning off of that, she is using a
Speaker 4: good protocol for this. She's using the riboflavin. It's b
Speaker 4: r B two, zinc, selenium, and copper, all of which
Speaker 4: are critical cofactors in thyroid hormone production. In the conversion
Speaker 4: of that, selenium, for example, is essential for converting T four,
Speaker 4: the inactive form, to T three, the active form, and
Speaker 4: zinc plays a role in thyroid receptor sensitivity. Copper balances
Speaker 4: that zinc in riboflavin supports mitochondrial energy, which the thyroid
Speaker 4: heavily influences. So, yes, you're on a scientifically good path there,
Speaker 4: and your plan to add vitamin A tyrazine l tyrazine
Speaker 4: in oshwagonda makes sense as well. Vitamin A helps regulate
Speaker 4: that TSH production. L tyrazine as an amino acid, it's
Speaker 4: a backbone for a thyroid hormone. Ashwaganda is adaptogen that
Speaker 4: can help reduce that stress and support adrenal thyroid harmony.
Speaker 4: And I think seeking out a functional medicine practitioner would
Speaker 4: be good in this case as well, because it's going
Speaker 4: to be some co management that needs to take place here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And now, I think best case scenario for her
Speaker 2: doctor Brockman, would be that with taking these other nutrients in,
Speaker 2: she might be able to in the future lower her
Speaker 2: dose of thyroid supplement, you know, whether it be synthroid
Speaker 2: or thyrol lar, whatever they decide to use, and maybe
Speaker 2: work with her monitoring her in terms of her overall
Speaker 2: lifestyle with exercise, foods that can interfere with thyroid function
Speaker 2: getting away from them. And I think the best hope
Speaker 2: for her is that maybe they can get her to
Speaker 2: a lower dose of a thyroid drug supplement. But I
Speaker 2: have never ever in thirty years of practice, after somebody's
Speaker 2: been on that kind of years and years worth of
Speaker 2: thyroid drug intake have been able to completely extricate themselves.
Speaker 2: They eventually start crashing with not only their energy, but
Speaker 2: they get the mexadema, they get the water infiltration, all
Speaker 2: of the symptoms that you see, and then it's hard
Speaker 2: because now they got to figure out how to get
Speaker 2: her back to where she needs to be. So just
Speaker 2: I think the takeaway is be careful with this in
Speaker 2: your case because of the chronicity, the length of time
Speaker 2: that you've been on a drug that your body has
Speaker 2: depended upon, Taking that away abruptly like that is typically
Speaker 2: not successful. All right, wish I had better news for you.
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Speaker 4: Sir, Okay, we got Rita from Iowa.
Speaker 6: This is Rita from Iowa. And my question is my
Speaker 6: husband was designosed with APID and they recommended eloquent. Are
Speaker 6: there any other ways to treat apid? They also ran
Speaker 6: a blood test for the naturally erratic tet site and
Speaker 6: it was one seventy three, which is high. Thank you
Speaker 6: so much. We truly enjoy your show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, atre fab is potentially a serious problem. You should
Speaker 2: always be under doctor's guidance while that is going on.
Speaker 2: And but there may be some simplified things that may
Speaker 2: be setting this into motion that should be considered. Getting
Speaker 2: off a caffeine and doing things that are healthy dietarily.
Speaker 2: We know that many people with atria fibrillation are severely
Speaker 2: magnesium deficient, so he might benefit by taking extra magnesium.
Speaker 2: Stopping the caffeine and the excess of sugar alcohol is
Speaker 2: also a contributed to this, Doctor Brockman, I'll let you
Speaker 2: also weigh in on this.
Speaker 4: From a natural medicine perspective. There's supportive strategies that can
Speaker 4: take place here in addition to the you know, having
Speaker 4: an alternative to those pharmaceutical blood thinners that may help
Speaker 4: manage cardiovascular health. But you know these need to always
Speaker 4: take place under under supervision of a functional medicine or
Speaker 4: your cardiologists as well. The nutritional support here is magnesium.
Speaker 4: It supports healthy heart rhythm, Mega three fatty acids which
Speaker 4: help to reduce that overall inflammation and support circulation, and
Speaker 4: coenzyme Q ten. It supports the energy of the heart
Speaker 4: cells and it's particularly useful if on medications that may
Speaker 4: deplete it, like statins, so I think those are all important. Also,
Speaker 4: some lifestyle choices here daily movement, walking, yoga, deep breathing,
Speaker 4: and there's something known as h r V, which is
Speaker 4: heart rate variability training. It's a stress it can be
Speaker 4: a big factor in these heart rhythm issues. And also diet,
Speaker 4: the Mediterranean diet that we speak of, that's plant based foods,
Speaker 4: healthy fats and low and sodium and processed sugars, and
Speaker 4: to prevent clotting naturally that Eloquist. There's some other things
Speaker 4: like the vascular defense that we talked about with those
Speaker 4: enzymes that may be helpful there.
Speaker 2: All right, excellent information. Just remember a person with a
Speaker 2: FIB has electrical problem weakness to begin with. All right,
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