WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:02.600 We are kicking it back live in studio here in 2 00:00:02.640 --> 00:00:05.799 downtown Salt Lake City, Utah, after our quick foray to 3 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:09.679 Las Vegas for the show yesterday for the Utah Men's 4 00:00:09.720 --> 00:00:13.080 Basketball Experience and the College Basketball Crown which only lasted 5 00:00:13.080 --> 00:00:13.599 one game. 6 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:15.560 We'll switch gears now. 7 00:00:15.560 --> 00:00:17.800 We'll do a little soccer on a Tuesday afternoon with 8 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:21.160 RSL taking on the Galaxy coming up on Saturday, two 9 00:00:21.199 --> 00:00:25.600 thirty pm Mountain Kick. That's a nice little afternoon start time. 10 00:00:25.640 --> 00:00:28.640 And the head coach of RSL, what's going on, dude? 11 00:00:28.679 --> 00:00:31.480 Are you drawing the short this short straw every week? 12 00:00:31.480 --> 00:00:33.039 Are they making you come on and talk to me? 13 00:00:33.079 --> 00:00:35.200 Because nobody else wants to discuss this stuff. 14 00:00:37.399 --> 00:00:40.000 I don't know, Spence, But now that you say that, no, 15 00:00:40.280 --> 00:00:43.520 it's a part of the gig, man, it's great. Yeah, 16 00:00:43.560 --> 00:00:47.039 we'll talk and have some good discourse over some of 17 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:49.759 the things that's going on. And I got some I 18 00:00:49.880 --> 00:00:52.479 got some good background to all the things that I'm sure. 19 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:54.920 You want not all right, Well, that's good stuff because 20 00:00:55.320 --> 00:00:58.200 you know the background that RSL fans are wondering about. 21 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:01.960 Are these players that apparently are on the way to 22 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:04.599 help you out? And you know every time I have 23 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:07.480 these conversations, it's different. I approach you differently if I'm 24 00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:10.280 talking to Kurt or Jason or Tony or you, because 25 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:13.000 you're the coach and it's technically not your job, but 26 00:01:13.040 --> 00:01:15.680 you're the one that it feels to me is behind 27 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:17.920 the eight ball because of the lack of talent in 28 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:20.640 the attack. That's just my opinion. Where are we at, Pablo? 29 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:22.120 What are these players going to be on the ground? 30 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:26.159 Yeah, so again, Spence, I wish I had some better 31 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:29.760 news for you as far as definitive answers. Uh, but 32 00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:34.280 but I don't. You know, we looked at another another 33 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:39.040 player yesterday, and again these things. The crazy thing is, 34 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:41.280 there's so many things that I've said this before that 35 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:45.280 that have to align. And and so even when if 36 00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:47.319 we close a deal, it's still going to be another 37 00:01:47.400 --> 00:01:50.760 month away. And so like to your point about you 38 00:01:50.799 --> 00:01:54.640 know that that's not my remit. I got to constantly 39 00:01:54.920 --> 00:01:57.359 figure out different ways to do that, you know. And 40 00:01:57.359 --> 00:02:00.560 and so you know, so if you're if your sphere 41 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:03.200 isn't isn't the sharpest right, and you're not able to 42 00:02:03.200 --> 00:02:06.319 score the goals that you need to win games, and 43 00:02:06.359 --> 00:02:08.080 then what I'm saying is we just got to get 44 00:02:08.120 --> 00:02:10.360 better on the defensive end. But it's a it's a 45 00:02:10.400 --> 00:02:13.759 catch twenty two, right, because if you do concede first, 46 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:17.120 then the hope and the confidence of the group dwindles 47 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:19.520 because they know that the tip of the spear isn't 48 00:02:19.719 --> 00:02:23.919 isn't the sharpest, right, And so it's it's constantly and 49 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:27.080 deal and just managing emotions and saying, okay, this is 50 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:29.240 that we we just got to get back to compete 51 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:31.240 in the right way and defending our box the right way, 52 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:35.080 and hopefully, if we if we get some results with 53 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:38.800 with a great mindset and defending the box, when the 54 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:41.759 tip of the spear finally arrives, we're going to be flying. 55 00:02:41.919 --> 00:02:44.560 And so that's the way I'm processing all this because 56 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:47.639 the truth is, I don't know when it's going to happen, 57 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:51.719 and there's a chance if it happens, but this is 58 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:54.639 a situation that we're currently in and we got to 59 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:56.599 do the best we can and put our heads together 60 00:02:56.680 --> 00:02:59.719 to find a solution in the interim. 61 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:03.159 So you just reference something that I find really interesting. 62 00:03:03.400 --> 00:03:07.159 And because this is a complicated thing, no part of 63 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:08.840 me would want to put you in a position where 64 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:12.400 you're talking poorly about your locker room and the group 65 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:14.080 that you have to coach. I mean, the players that 66 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:15.960 you have at your disposal are the ones you have 67 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:16.879 to maximize. 68 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:18.199 But you you. 69 00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:20.520 Reference when the group knows the tip of the spear 70 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:23.039 isn't very sharp when you go down a man, or 71 00:03:23.080 --> 00:03:24.520 excuse me, when you go down a goal. Well, I 72 00:03:24.520 --> 00:03:26.319 guess a couple of games ago you go down a man, 73 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:30.919 But when you go down a goal, it feels almost 74 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:34.639 insurmountable because the group knows that the potency isn't there 75 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:38.120 in attack. Is the confidence of the group taking a hit? 76 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:42.879 Do they realize that the solutions that you have up 77 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:45.159 top right now are not the right ones given the 78 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:46.120 results so far? 79 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:51.919 Yeah, you know, And again it's yes, listen, I think 80 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:54.639 you know. Soccer players, you know, are some of the 81 00:03:54.639 --> 00:03:59.840 smartest workforces in sports, only because they're so well traveled 82 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:03.879 and they they see life from a different perspective, so 83 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:06.879 like everyone is real privy to it. And the other 84 00:04:06.919 --> 00:04:09.800 part of that is, you know, the guys that we 85 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:12.439 do have up top are twenty twenty one and twenty 86 00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:14.960 years old, right, and so like it's not fair to 87 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:19.120 those guys who would typically thrive if there was there 88 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:22.720 was an experienced player that had accomplished a lot. That's 89 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:25.639 when players do their best learnings right when their peers 90 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:29.040 are these examples for them to follow. But putting the 91 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:31.079 burden on twenty year old and a twenty one year 92 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:32.879 old guys that are just cutting their teeth in the 93 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:36.519 professional game isn't fair either. And that's why i'm that's 94 00:04:36.519 --> 00:04:38.800 why i'm you know, sit with the leadership do today 95 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:41.920 and say we've just got to find solutions. Right, We've 96 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:45.680 got to take the brunt of the responsibility and obviously 97 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:49.279 I think I think most of that right, and we've 98 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:51.160 got to, like, we've got to look at this differently. 99 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:55.759 And so again, if if you're struggling in the attack, 100 00:04:55.959 --> 00:04:58.399 then you've got to fortify the defense. And that's got 101 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:01.360 to be our mantra to get us because again, if 102 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:04.079 we go into halftime at zero zero, again there's set 103 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:07.800 pieces that you know, we giggle and diego are capable 104 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:11.480 of scoring goals, but obviously that's not they're a strong 105 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:15.199 point either. They're more goal facilitators in are goal scorers. 106 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:19.319 So we've got to find a way through committee and 107 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:21.720 through managing the game the right way and have a 108 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:25.000 collective understanding that we've got to get to halftime zero zero. 109 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:27.600 And if we're up one zero, that's that's a bonus. 110 00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:29.639 But we've got to get there zero zero. So now 111 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:32.319 we can start to like really grind these teams down, 112 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:39.240 create pressure through our possession, and find a way into 113 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:41.439 the net. So that's that's the way we're talking about 114 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:44.720 it internally, and you know, just meeting with the leadership group, 115 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:48.879 you know, once a week and making sure that we 116 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:52.439 readjust our focus on not what we don't have, but 117 00:05:52.600 --> 00:05:54.920 what we can be really good at in the strength 118 00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:55.439 of our group. 119 00:05:56.360 --> 00:05:59.199 All Right, one more question in this space, then we'll 120 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:01.959 move on, because you know, at some point we have 121 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:04.600 to talk about what we're dealing with, what's in front 122 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:06.600 of us. As you know, that's all you can all 123 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:09.120 you can actually deal with. But I'm gonna list it 124 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:15.519 man Kurt Schmidt, Jason christ Tony Beltran, Pablo Mastuhenny an 125 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:18.399 unnamed source, little birdie, cute little bird, very small bird. 126 00:06:18.720 --> 00:06:21.959 I can't tell you who, but it seems like everybody 127 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:24.079 over there has told me over the past month like 128 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:26.120 we are a few days away from getting this stuff 129 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:29.319 across the line, and you know this, But for our listeners, 130 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:33.600 the primary transfer window closes three weeks from Thursday, three 131 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:36.920 weeks from Thursday, so like we've got to stop messing around. 132 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:39.199 To your point, like you can have the idea of 133 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:41.759 bringing this player into that player and then something gets 134 00:06:41.759 --> 00:06:43.920 in the way and it's two or three weeks later. Well, Pablo, 135 00:06:44.199 --> 00:06:46.759 if it's two or three weeks later, now it's not 136 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:50.279 happening until the summer. So have you been given any 137 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:53.360 sort of an assurance that at least, you know, within 138 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:56.639 this window before April twenty third comes and goes, you 139 00:06:56.720 --> 00:06:59.519 will have better talent at your disposal to coach. 140 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:07.399 Yes, but again until until it's the arrives Spence, you know, 141 00:07:07.959 --> 00:07:11.199 it's just there's just no guarantees, right, there's just no guarantees. 142 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:14.959 And there's different mechanisms that that you know, we can 143 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:18.399 go internally within the league and and find you know, 144 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:21.879 a proven goal scorer you know, and and again, and 145 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:23.759 the one thing I will promise is when this goal 146 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:27.560 scorer does arrive, when this guy, it's going to take 147 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:30.720 the pressure off everyone and now you can have everyone 148 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:34.399 playing with a sense of freedom, and and and and 149 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:37.279 and players playing authentic to where to who they are. 150 00:07:37.519 --> 00:07:40.199 You know, I think in this moment, you know, sometimes 151 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:42.279 you know, Diego Luna is trying to do too much 152 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:45.560 to make the game when if he just does his job, 153 00:07:45.920 --> 00:07:48.720 he's an excellent creative player. But if he struggles to 154 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:51.000 find someone to link with higher up the field that 155 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:53.839 can take the pressure off him, you know, it's difficult, 156 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:56.360 and so you so at the moment, you're also seeing 157 00:07:58.079 --> 00:08:00.839 guys trying to overplay and guys trying to do too 158 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:04.079 much in the absence of this of a player that's 159 00:08:04.079 --> 00:08:07.519 not even here. So but there has But again we're 160 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:10.040 talking about it. Like I said yesterday, we identified another 161 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:15.120 player that hopefully we can secure. But until that player arrives, 162 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:18.920 it's it's it's tough to feel confident that that you 163 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:20.240 know that it happens. 164 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:24.319 Okay, So are you satisfied with you know what you 165 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:27.480 outline as far as how you're trying to emphasize. Okay, 166 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:30.120 if we don't have the potency in attack, let's make 167 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:32.480 sure we're a tough nut to crack and what where 168 00:08:32.519 --> 00:08:34.320 you aut on that side of the field. As far 169 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:37.159 as uh defending as a team, I mean, I think 170 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:39.360 brawl has been a bright spot I mean, I think 171 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:40.320 he's been a good addition. 172 00:08:40.399 --> 00:08:41.639 So where are you at over there? 173 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:45.840 Bob's yeah, no, I think again, it's just just hitting 174 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:48.200 on it today again in the recap and saying, like 175 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:50.639 these moments where we're in complete control of the game 176 00:08:50.679 --> 00:08:53.320 from an offensive perspective. Right. So I look at the 177 00:08:53.320 --> 00:08:56.399 two goals we conceded in Minnesota, and they both started 178 00:08:56.440 --> 00:08:59.279 with us in really clear possession of the ball. We're 179 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:01.559 literally three orders of the way up the field, playing 180 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:06.639 in our opponent's final third, and within five passes the 181 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:09.080 balls in the back of our net. So, like what 182 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:12.799 we talk about defensively, it's defending in transition. So the 183 00:09:12.840 --> 00:09:15.279 first part of that is making sure that you're defensively 184 00:09:15.320 --> 00:09:19.600 prepared for any any turnover, right, So that is more 185 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:22.519 communication from the guys in the back, it's better positioning 186 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:26.159 from our from our midfielders, and then it's putting out fires, 187 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:29.519 you know. And and I think the majority of the 188 00:09:29.519 --> 00:09:31.279 goals that we can see this year have been through 189 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:34.480 those transition moments. It hasn't been like we've been defending 190 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:36.919 in a block close to our goal, But because we're 191 00:09:36.960 --> 00:09:40.399 trying to be aggressive and commit numbers forward, we're susceptible 192 00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:42.679 in the back, and so that's the trade off, right, 193 00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:44.679 So because we haven't scored a lot of goals, we 194 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:46.840 want to get number numbers higher up the field. But 195 00:09:47.039 --> 00:09:49.799 the footside of that is that you're susceptible. So it's 196 00:09:49.840 --> 00:09:52.279 it's it's a it's a work in progress. But I 197 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:55.679 think today, especially talking to the leadership group in Rock 198 00:09:55.720 --> 00:09:59.159 with cabral Is one of those players. That's what we're 199 00:09:59.200 --> 00:10:02.000 being very deliberate gone because we are getting up the field, 200 00:10:02.399 --> 00:10:04.879 we are creating chances, but we're just not putting the 201 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:07.480 biscuit in the basket. And so if we can nullify 202 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:11.360 some of those opportunities and handle those moments in real 203 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:14.840 professional ways, I find that we'll put ourselves in position 204 00:10:14.840 --> 00:10:15.799 to win more games. 205 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:18.879 So let's let's look at the Minnesota game. 206 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:21.120 Actually, before we look at you know how you decided 207 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:22.679 to go about it, because we did catch up with 208 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:25.440 you last week and I was unfortunately playing weather man 209 00:10:25.639 --> 00:10:28.759 during our interview and I reference what the conditions were 210 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:31.519 going to be like, So it looked rough man on television. 211 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:34.600 What sort of challenges did the weather provide up in Minnesota? 212 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:39.039 Yeah, it's again, I think the coldest games I've ever 213 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:41.879 played were in those type of conditions where it's not 214 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:45.919 cold enough for snow, but it's wind blowing at like 215 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:49.960 whatever it was forty degrees and the wind blowing the 216 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:53.320 rain sideways, and the one thing is you just don't 217 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:56.679 have an opportunity to ever like feel comfortable, right, And 218 00:10:56.720 --> 00:10:59.559 so that that's what the game kind of looked like. 219 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:01.799 And it was rough game, given that those guys were 220 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:05.120 just putting balls into the box and really being directing. 221 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:08.559 We try to play a little bit, and so that 222 00:11:08.759 --> 00:11:10.799 style of going up against that Doyle play on that 223 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:13.639 type of surface was very difficult. And you know, at 224 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:17.960 halftime I had we were going to make two tactical changes, 225 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:20.159 and it ended up being four because two of the 226 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:24.919 players were experiencing hypothermic symptoms, right, so you know Yogo 227 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:29.080 and Dominic Marsouk, they just couldn't feel their bodies anymore 228 00:11:29.120 --> 00:11:31.320 and their lifts were blue in the whole nine yards. 229 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:34.000 So like that definitely threw things for a spin. So 230 00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:36.159 I feel like going from the Dallas game where we 231 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:39.240 were down a man, going into Minnesota with those type 232 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:41.919 of conditions, we've experienced a lot of hardship early on 233 00:11:42.399 --> 00:11:45.480 and now it's really leaning on those moments to really 234 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:49.320 dig deep and become a better team on a Saturday 235 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:52.559 where it's hopefully sunny two thirty in the afternoon against 236 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:54.919 the great team like La. 237 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:57.000 Yeah, I think it will be Sonny. I think that'll help. 238 00:11:57.039 --> 00:11:59.519 We'll get there in a moment. I wonder, because you 239 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:04.679 reference and smart Zuke and Diego, do international players have 240 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:07.639 a tough time acclimating to some of the challenging conditions 241 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:09.720 MLS puts you guys in when it comes to playing 242 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:13.840 and some of these hold weather scenarios. I mean, I'm 243 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:16.919 just asking because those two guys obviously are are transplants 244 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:18.759 here playing for MLS from different countries. 245 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:22.519 Yeah, you know, and ironically both of those players have 246 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:26.879 played in snow before, right. Diego came from Denmark team 247 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:29.279 in Denmark and Dominic came from a team in Poland. 248 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:33.320 But but I think again, like the way the amount 249 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:36.960 of rain that was falling and the wind blowing was 250 00:12:36.960 --> 00:12:40.000 was I think very unique. And you know, I come 251 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:42.840 to find out that Minnesota have these these warm blankets 252 00:12:42.840 --> 00:12:45.799 that they had on their players on the bench and 253 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:48.639 in the locker rooms at halftime, and we didn't have that. 254 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:51.320 We didn't have that right. And I just think that 255 00:12:51.320 --> 00:12:54.200 that little difference of like being able to like warm 256 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:58.639 yourself at halftime could have made the difference between the players, 257 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:01.480 you know, getting through the second half and maybe not. 258 00:13:01.679 --> 00:13:04.919 But you know, I think it wasn't just those two guys. 259 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:08.480 Everyone was you know, I mean, everyone's eyes were just 260 00:13:08.600 --> 00:13:11.200 like they were all everyone was shivering at halftime. It 261 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:14.600 was incredible. So the fact that the guys actually finished 262 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:18.320 the game was a feat unto itself. And and and 263 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:20.720 again that's I think something that we need to lean 264 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:22.480 on as a group because we've gone through a lot 265 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:24.600 in the last two weeks and we've got to use 266 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:26.399 that as a motivational force to move forward. 267 00:13:27.200 --> 00:13:30.080 So when it comes to the way you elected to 268 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:34.080 attack this peole was out because of the red card. 269 00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:37.120 So Forrester gets the startup top. I just had the 270 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:39.320 lineup slide. So I know this isn't exactly how it 271 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:42.840 goes because guys move around, but diego central centrally located 272 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:44.840 where the ten would be, diego out left. 273 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:48.519 Out, out wide right, and then uh macha and o'heta. 274 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:52.080 Of course, as you're you're you're central, what's the what 275 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:55.399 is there something going on with Katranis or are you 276 00:13:55.480 --> 00:13:57.960 just choosing to kind of cycle through that left back 277 00:13:58.039 --> 00:13:59.399 spot that I just thought was his. 278 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:00.679 I thought he had solidified that. 279 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:04.200 No, you know again, I think there's uh, you know, 280 00:14:04.279 --> 00:14:08.519 Sam Junko had a really really good preseason. His his 281 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:10.919 physical output is the top on the team, so in 282 00:14:10.919 --> 00:14:13.559 that position, you know, we asked him to play wing 283 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:15.720 winger when we have the ball, and we ask him 284 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:18.440 to play left back when we don't. And Sam had 285 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:21.320 just had a really good preseason, great start to the season, 286 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:25.000 had a really good performance in Houston. So we've been 287 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:27.519 running it. But but again, I think obviously when you're 288 00:14:27.519 --> 00:14:29.679 not getting the results, you're you're looking at every nook 289 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:33.399 and cranny to try to find percentages to the good. 290 00:14:34.440 --> 00:14:36.840 And that's definitely one position that we're looking at and 291 00:14:36.840 --> 00:14:38.639 and and a big part of that is the way 292 00:14:38.679 --> 00:14:41.559 Alex has been training. Alex has been great, his attitude 293 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:45.120 has been great. So you know, looking towards this next game, 294 00:14:45.159 --> 00:14:48.320 there will probably be two to three different changes to 295 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:51.440 the group that you're that you've just mentioned again to 296 00:14:51.639 --> 00:14:55.440 continue to instill a competitive environment, but to also find 297 00:14:55.759 --> 00:15:00.600 different mechanisms to spark you know, the results. 298 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:04.200 Is there another option besides forrest during pol up top. 299 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:07.039 I'm not asking because I'm knocking on those two. I'm 300 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:09.519 just wondering what sort of depth you have up there? 301 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:12.039 Is there anything maybe we just haven't seen that you 302 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:13.799 feel like you might be able to try to kind 303 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:14.840 of crack this thing open. 304 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:20.200 Yeah, so it's it's a bit unconventional. But his who's Borea, 305 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:22.120 who came into the game in the second half about it, 306 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:24.960 did extremely well. He played as kind of a false 307 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:29.279 nine in uh in college, and so you know, this 308 00:15:29.399 --> 00:15:31.559 is this is making an adjustment to our game model 309 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:33.360 where we actually want our nine to be on the 310 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:36.399 highest line, to always push the defensive line back to 311 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:40.720 create space underneath for Diego and Diego. But we're looking 312 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:44.000 at you know, maybe his Seu's in that position to 313 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:48.480 occupy center backs because the three of them really understand movements, 314 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:53.279 the ball possession, and they're really really crafty. So we'll 315 00:15:53.320 --> 00:15:55.600 look at that tomorrow and see if that that that, 316 00:15:55.879 --> 00:15:58.440 you know, brings up anything a little bit different. But 317 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:01.559 his Seuss has a great eye for goal, scored quite 318 00:16:01.559 --> 00:16:04.679 a few goals in his last college season and has 319 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:06.559 been really really bright in front of goal for us. 320 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:09.279 And so again, if what we're doing isn't isn't working, 321 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:13.679 we're always looking for different ways to readjust our game 322 00:16:13.720 --> 00:16:16.200 model so that we can be more productive in the attack. 323 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:20.360 Okay, well, I mean I just continue to kind of 324 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:23.159 feel bad that you're in this spot where you have 325 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:25.240 to get creative, like, hey, let's play a false night 326 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:27.480 Like no, let's get a nine that can actually score. 327 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:32.519 You know, but that's just me. So let's move towards Saturday. 328 00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:35.919 But before we get there specifically, And you were good 329 00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:38.879 to talk about this last time you joined, and I 330 00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:42.759 always discussed just basically being around now the league for 331 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:44.840 twenty years since we brought the club here. I've seen 332 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:47.919 some of our best team start horribly. I've seen some 333 00:16:47.960 --> 00:16:50.639 of our worst team start incredibly. And this season is 334 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:53.440 simply a marathon. But do you feel like it's getting 335 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:55.559 late early? Do you catch my drift? You feel like 336 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:57.399 it's getting late early? I kind of feeling a little 337 00:16:57.399 --> 00:16:58.840 pressure leaving points on the table. 338 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:03.879 Yeah, I mean it's always obviously you can't you can't 339 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:06.240 win the season at the start, but you can put 340 00:17:06.240 --> 00:17:08.559 yourself in a a in a in a tough spot, 341 00:17:09.079 --> 00:17:11.559 you know where I feel where I feel good about 342 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:14.559 our group is that one. It's a really really honest group, 343 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:18.039 right we you know, we might not have the sharpest 344 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:20.400 tip of the spear, but we do have an honest group. 345 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:23.640 And so when we were doing our game reviews, there's 346 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:27.440 there's everyone's understanding what we're talking about, what the expectations are. 347 00:17:28.480 --> 00:17:30.319 And you know, in the last couple of years, we've 348 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:33.359 been on runs where we've been fifteen unbeaten. Right in 349 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:35.279 the last two years, I think we've had two runs 350 00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:39.000 where we've been fifteen unbeaten, and so a lot a 351 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:43.559 lot of that started with the tough performance. And so 352 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:46.119 that's what I keep saying to the guys that if 353 00:17:46.119 --> 00:17:48.440 we pull up, you know, if we can dig out 354 00:17:48.880 --> 00:17:52.880 our inner competitiveness right in our in our we don't 355 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:56.000 give a damn type mentality, You're going to find ways 356 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:58.039 to score goals. You're going to find ways to win games. 357 00:17:58.119 --> 00:18:00.680 It may not be drawn up like we do in training, 358 00:18:01.119 --> 00:18:04.079 but if you don't believe it, right, if you don't 359 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:07.559 have the mindset, then then it's impossible to achieve. And 360 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:09.920 then you start feeling like what you're talking about, which 361 00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:12.480 is a little bit nervy. You know, and so for me, 362 00:18:12.599 --> 00:18:15.680 from my perspective is it's always looking forward. We've done 363 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:18.400 this in the past two years, and it usually started 364 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:20.480 with a bad run of form, but we found a 365 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:22.559 way and then once you get it going, all those 366 00:18:22.599 --> 00:18:25.759 experiences in the past that were very difficult to kind 367 00:18:25.759 --> 00:18:29.119 of deal with and at the time are now you know, 368 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:31.960 steps on the ladder that you can climb up, right, 369 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:34.599 And so I think that that for me is the 370 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:37.160 most important thing, you know, because again it's it's not 371 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:39.720 it doesn't feel good when you're in these in these moments, 372 00:18:39.839 --> 00:18:42.880 right and you you know you can. You can sit 373 00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:46.000 there and feel pity. But for me, it's always about 374 00:18:46.039 --> 00:18:49.720 challenging myself, challenging the group to be the best version 375 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:52.720 of yourself, because every player has done something special to 376 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:55.319 get to this level and it's our our job as 377 00:18:55.359 --> 00:18:58.599 coaches to unlock that that special talent and to play 378 00:18:58.599 --> 00:19:01.559 free and let me worry about the results. You just 379 00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:03.680 worry about doing your job and having a great. 380 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:04.799 Performance, all right. 381 00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:07.839 So I reference the lineup slide with Forster up top 382 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:10.359 and the midfield and you know back for a rough 383 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:10.799 and goal. 384 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:14.720 I don't know much about the Galaxy this year. 385 00:19:14.880 --> 00:19:17.240 I know that they won MLS couple year ago, and 386 00:19:17.279 --> 00:19:19.680 they're off to what I'm reading is the worst start 387 00:19:20.160 --> 00:19:21.720 in La Galaxy history. 388 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:23.240 I do not know why. 389 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:26.240 Maybe you can shed some light, so I would imagine 390 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:28.359 they still have quality. So you might be expecting a 391 00:19:28.400 --> 00:19:32.000 little bit of a rabbit dog rolling into the stadium 392 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:34.160 coming up on Saturday. But tell me about the Galaxy 393 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:37.039 and if you care to help us understand how you're 394 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:39.240 going to try to make some changes to improve this 395 00:19:39.839 --> 00:19:42.440 attack coming up on Saturday as the Galaxy rolling in town. 396 00:19:43.759 --> 00:19:46.039 Yeah, you know, they're obviously in a tough run of 397 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:49.680 form in the league. They lost their most important player 398 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:55.200 in Ricky Pooge that dictated a lot. They've lost another striker, winger, Paincil, 399 00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:57.839 who is a speedy winger who's just now come back 400 00:19:57.920 --> 00:20:02.079 last game. But they're also in in the in the 401 00:20:02.119 --> 00:20:05.720