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Speaker 5: it's Nelson Nelson.
Speaker 3: Thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: Absolutely to be here and it's a pleasure to have you.
Speaker 5: And before we get too deep into the conversation, please
Speaker 5: feel free to take a few moments and introduce yourself
Speaker 5: to the audience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so my name is Nelson Arm the infantry veteran.
Speaker 1: Let's see where do we even start. Basically, if you
Speaker 1: ask somebody about me, they will tell you that every
Speaker 1: conversation I have basically ends in a conspiracy, because you know,
Speaker 1: they're all interconnected, they're not independent of each other. It's
Speaker 1: just like a big spider web, and once you're able
Speaker 1: to see it, you can't stop seeing it. And it's
Speaker 1: like every branch of the tree is just visible. And
Speaker 1: I usually make it known, you know, I usually form
Speaker 1: it in like a sentence or like a question and
Speaker 1: try to just get people thinking.
Speaker 5: And that's awesome that you actually do that. There's a
Speaker 5: lot of people who are wide awake, but there may
Speaker 5: be a little embarrassed or don't want to be ridiculed
Speaker 5: in trying to share the truth, and it's important that,
Speaker 5: especially at this stage of the game. We were talking
Speaker 5: a little bit beforehand about the precarious situation we are
Speaker 5: in the world with an election just six weeks out
Speaker 5: and Russia, Ukraine, Israel.
Speaker 3: I mean, just there's so much going on.
Speaker 5: That also something that I didn't mention before, Nelson, I
Speaker 5: do think we are going to have a major financial
Speaker 5: issue here in October as well. The stock market is
Speaker 5: nowhere a true reflection of our current economy.
Speaker 3: But we'll see. You know, we can sit here and
Speaker 3: predict all day long. Just be ready.
Speaker 5: And something you said that really resonated with me, and
Speaker 5: I'm not sure I really realized it until I got
Speaker 5: to Flat Earth is that every single conspiracy is tied together.
Speaker 3: And that's when I realized.
Speaker 5: That these conspiracies aren't just of worldly things. That is,
Speaker 5: it's a spiritual battle. It's good versus evil. And that's
Speaker 5: when I really I think I was fully wide awake.
Speaker 3: Would you agree with that.
Speaker 1: Yes, across all spectrums, spiritual.
Speaker 5: One hundred percent, one hundred percent. What would you say
Speaker 5: was the first thing that woke you up? Was the
Speaker 5: first quote unquote conspiracy that that you kind of came to.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Uh. You know when I was when nine
Speaker 1: to eleven happened, I kind of felt like I was
Speaker 1: just like nine or ten years old, but I couldn't
Speaker 1: take it serious. It just didn't seem it didn't seem
Speaker 1: authentic or organic, like how they tried to paint the
Speaker 1: picture to us. So I wasn't really surprised once I
Speaker 1: started getting into nine to eleven, figuring out all the
Speaker 1: all the documentary that I watched on that, still trying
Speaker 1: to really figure out what exactly happened, like because I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen the pictures of or like
Speaker 1: the videos of the plane going through the building and
Speaker 1: then entering the like leaving the other side of the building,
Speaker 1: but the nose of the plane is still intact. Have
Speaker 1: you seen that I have?
Speaker 3: I have, indeed, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so there's that, and then there's the DBC reporter
Speaker 1: reporting that Building seven have already fallen when it's literally
Speaker 1: right behind her. Yep. So just things like that. I
Speaker 1: think being in the military opened my eyes to a
Speaker 1: lot of it, like especially like when I've deployed overseas
Speaker 1: and then I came home. It's like switch was flipped
Speaker 1: in me. And I was just able to notice the
Speaker 1: things that were happening. I guess, like just poisonous food,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, things of that nature. I got
Speaker 1: really big gig into two conspiracies.
Speaker 5: That's interesting because my time in the military kind of
Speaker 5: led to my awakening. I had a similar experience with
Speaker 5: you when I saw nine to eleven. When I witnessed
Speaker 5: it that day September eleventh, two thousand and one, something
Speaker 5: didn't seem right about it. But my life became so
Speaker 5: busy I didn't have the time to sit down and
Speaker 5: think about it, and maybe I compartmentalized it because of
Speaker 5: the situation I was in, being in the military, and
Speaker 5: I didn't really take the time to look into it
Speaker 5: after I retired in the fall of twenty fifteen. But
Speaker 5: for me, similar to yourself, the first one I kind
Speaker 5: of bumped into. I think it was loose change. It
Speaker 5: kind of opened my eyes. And then years after reading
Speaker 5: whether it be Behold a Pale Horrors or Manley p.
Speaker 5: Hall stuff for certain videos and you go down these
Speaker 5: rabbit holes and you look at Larry Silverstein and he's
Speaker 5: got a connection to this guy, and he's got a
Speaker 5: connect and it's like, oh, my God, They're all connected,
Speaker 5: and that's why it's so important to have these conversations
Speaker 5: and talk about the spiritual side of it. So at
Speaker 5: what point did you come upon Flat Earth?
Speaker 1: So I came across Flat Earth files. I think it
Speaker 1: was in January of this year, is when I started
Speaker 1: listening to it because it didn't What I liked about
Speaker 1: it was it didn't have like a bunch of ads
Speaker 1: in the middle, like, it wasn't broke up like it
Speaker 1: was just a straight through conversation once you got into
Speaker 1: the conversation. So I liked that aspect of it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm glad I set that because I have the
Speaker 5: option to do that, but I think it takes away
Speaker 5: from the message, and in this day and age, I
Speaker 5: think the message is more important than a few extra dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was just one of the key things something
Speaker 1: that I like to listen to, like when I'm laying down,
Speaker 1: going to bed, trying to wind down, relax whatever. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I was, I was really listening to, like I like
Speaker 1: listening to like a lot of like just regular people
Speaker 1: guests who are talking about and thinking about the same
Speaker 1: things and making the same connections that I'm making. So
Speaker 1: I really like that aspect too.
Speaker 5: In your initial email you had mentioned something that I
Speaker 5: don't I'm not sure if we talk about enough on
Speaker 5: this podcast, and that are that is I should say
Speaker 5: the documents.
Speaker 3: Rob Skiba was one.
Speaker 5: Of the folks who have disclosed it, as well as
Speaker 5: justin Nemos on the SERAPM dot com which and this
Speaker 5: is another thing. When I was in a unit we
Speaker 5: had seven blacklack Hawks. It said that it is treated
Speaker 5: the Earth is treated as flat and motionless and NASA
Speaker 5: as a document, it's NASA Reference Publication twelve oh seven,
Speaker 5: dated August nineteen eighty eight, page thirty clearly states that
Speaker 5: this report derives and defines a set of linearized system
Speaker 5: matrices for a rigid aircraft of constant mass. And here
Speaker 5: we go flying in a stationary atmosphere over a flat,
Speaker 5: non ratating earth. So they always you were in the military,
Speaker 5: They told us we train as we fight, right, so
Speaker 5: why would they specify this?
Speaker 1: And that's the question I like to bring up to people,
Speaker 1: is I like to I like to lead them in
Speaker 1: and say, you know, Nations the authority on space, right
Speaker 1: they tell me yes, I say, okay, we should listen
Speaker 1: to them because they're the authority, right, They tell me yes,
Speaker 1: and I say, so, why what about these documents say
Speaker 1: that the Earth is a flat mode from this plane?
Speaker 1: Should we listen to them now? And they say no, no,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what that is. And I'm
Speaker 1: just like, so we're picking and choosing what we want
Speaker 1: to listen to and see, because in my theory, is
Speaker 1: is okay in court? You know, what NASA says to
Speaker 1: us could just be considered hearsay, but what they write
Speaker 1: down on documents on paper could be taken as evidence.
Speaker 1: So I tend to go with what the documents say
Speaker 1: because if we were in court, the documents would would
Speaker 1: have weight and all of the all of the other
Speaker 1: talk would could just be considered hearsay. So any thoughts
Speaker 1: on that, that's a great point.
Speaker 5: They want hard evidence in court, right hearsay, and you
Speaker 5: know third party evidence will only get you so far.
Speaker 5: Here's another one. This is from the FAA and they
Speaker 5: wrote a document entitled the Engineering, Analysis and Design of
Speaker 5: the Aircraft Dynamics Dynamics Model for the FFA Target Generation Facility,
Speaker 5: and on page thirty two it states, and I'm reading
Speaker 5: directly from the document, so in other words, for all
Speaker 5: intents and purposes, unless you were traveling above mock three
Speaker 5: or intend to travel into low Earth orbit or higher,
Speaker 5: then you should just consider the Earth to be flat.
Speaker 3: And again, if.
Speaker 5: The Earth was truly curved, why would you even entertain this?
Speaker 1: You know? And so so you said that in those
Speaker 1: in those black Hawk helicopters they had the flat motionless
Speaker 1: plane in the in the manuals yep, is that where
Speaker 1: you saw that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: And that was I was with them from ninety six
Speaker 5: to ninety nine. I wish I would have kept one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And in the Rob Sciba documents, he has found
Speaker 1: the US Army was trying to create or invent a
Speaker 1: new helicopter and they tried to invent it using a
Speaker 1: globe Earth model and could not do it. The only
Speaker 1: way they can make the helicopter was by using the
Speaker 1: flat motionless plane Earth model. Really, which is interesting.
Speaker 5: I had not heard that. I'm gonna have to do
Speaker 5: some research. It might have been. I know they're talking
Speaker 5: about the Bell V two eighty, which is supposed to
Speaker 5: be the next new attack helicopter.
Speaker 1: But you know, so where that information is that is
Speaker 1: on bitch shoe. If you searched Rob Skiba. I think
Speaker 1: it's NASA, CIA, US Army and Russia documents. You can
Speaker 1: find it, and he goes over all four of them.
Speaker 1: Like what you said about NASA. He talks about the
Speaker 1: helicopters from the US Army, he talks about the He
Speaker 1: pulls up and shows you all these documents, the ones
Speaker 1: from the CIA that show that the Earth is a flat,
Speaker 1: motionless plane, and even documents from Russia back in I
Speaker 1: don't know, the forties or fifties. You know, at some
Speaker 1: point back then we all had already thought we knew
Speaker 1: that the Earth was flat, or that the Earth was
Speaker 1: a glow. But here Russia is trying to figure it out,
Speaker 1: and they came. They came to find out that it
Speaker 1: was flat. So at this point I just know what
Speaker 1: it is. So it just it is what it is.
Speaker 1: And there's try to get as many people on board,
Speaker 1: but you know, they'll find out on their own at
Speaker 1: some point, probably, don't you think you would?
Speaker 6: Hope?
Speaker 5: So if you leave enough breadcrumbs and you know, maybe
Speaker 5: we'll take another COVID type of not necessarily a flu,
Speaker 5: but another major event that they overplay their hands so
Speaker 5: much that people wake up to it.
Speaker 3: I do see quite a bit of people.
Speaker 5: You've listened to the podcast, You've heard how COVID woke
Speaker 5: a lot of people up, and I get by the way,
Speaker 5: I did find that video on bit shoot. I'll embed
Speaker 5: that on the website when your podcast goes live. Looking
Speaker 5: forward to that and oh my goodness, where was that going.
Speaker 1: Covid?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, well how was that for you?
Speaker 3: With covid? You know those years twenty twenty, twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: Okay, So in the beginning, my biggest concern was the
Speaker 1: government is not going to shut down and I'm not
Speaker 1: going to get my disability check. That's what I thought.
Speaker 1: That didn't happen. There was an initial anxiety about, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm not going to get paid my disability checks
Speaker 1: the treasury. So I was just worried about that. But
Speaker 1: like as time went on, I think I wore a
Speaker 1: mask initially just you know, I didn't know what was
Speaker 1: happening at first. But once I found out about what
Speaker 1: was it the summit they had had, like a big
Speaker 1: summit in October event to a one. Yes, Once I
Speaker 1: found out about that, and we started seeing that the
Speaker 1: inconsistencies of no mask and now you need to have one,
Speaker 1: and you know, I could have swore they promised us
Speaker 1: two million people were gonna die. I could have swore
Speaker 1: I heard that. And when I didn't see it, I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, this is getting ridiculous if it was,
Speaker 1: you know, because I was in homeless shelters. COVID put
Speaker 1: me through a homeless shelter in Dallas and in Denver, Colorado,
Speaker 1: and I didn't see people dropping, dying or anything like that.
Speaker 1: So I was like, this can't be what they say
Speaker 1: it is, because if it were, all these homeless people
Speaker 1: would be really sick, and I didn't see any of that,
Speaker 1: and I would have gotten really sick because I was
Speaker 1: living in it and it never happened.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what. Denver's a beautiful city. But I
Speaker 5: couldn't imagine being homeless there in the winter.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Well I wasn't on the streets homeless
Speaker 1: there in the winter. I was in a what they
Speaker 1: give veterans, some sort of contracted homeless shelter bed. Okay,
Speaker 1: so thankfully I had that going for me. But people
Speaker 1: do freeze to death on the sidewalks outside of a
Speaker 1: homeless shelter in Denver in the wintertime. That does happen.
Speaker 5: So let me ask you this question, and I promise
Speaker 5: not to get too far off topic. I'll come right
Speaker 5: back to the flat earth. But we're here, and I
Speaker 5: really want to ask this question. Does it bother you
Speaker 5: at all to see all the money going out to
Speaker 5: Ukraine and to the people come across the.
Speaker 3: Border, and.
Speaker 5: There are many many people who to our listeners who's
Speaker 5: never been in the military. I can't tell you a
Speaker 5: more difficult thing was trans for me, transitioning from the
Speaker 5: military back to the civilian sector, and then for the
Speaker 5: folks who just struggle and go through difficult times where
Speaker 5: the money doesn't go to the veterans. And you know,
Speaker 5: I'm not saying veterans entitled to certain things, but I
Speaker 5: certainly think that our veterans should be entitled to care
Speaker 5: and money before say Ukraine and Israel and the people
Speaker 5: who may be here illegally.
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on that.
Speaker 1: I agree without one hundred percent, but I would you
Speaker 1: can take it a little bit further and say that
Speaker 1: we could have used that money that we give to Ukraine, Israel,
Speaker 1: all the people coming across our borders, we could have
Speaker 1: fixed all of the areas in our country that are
Speaker 1: below standard. We could have we could have used that
Speaker 1: on our own people. Why we didn't do that? I
Speaker 1: mean that just goes to show you that what really
Speaker 1: is money. They just print whatever. It's all just ones
Speaker 1: and zero's made out of nothing. If they can, if
Speaker 1: they can come up with those numbers to give to
Speaker 1: Ukraine and everybody else, they could create those numbers to
Speaker 1: help people here, but you know, they just choose not to.
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's a great point. I live an hour
Speaker 5: away from Baltimore. That city could use a lot of money.
Speaker 5: Saint Louis, you know, California. I think their problems are internal.
Speaker 5: They need to fix that before they try to fix anything.
Speaker 5: That's like bluing a glass house back together. I'm not
Speaker 5: saying that it can't be done, but a lot of
Speaker 5: the problems we do have is just the corrupt politicians.
Speaker 5: You write them a check and they end up giving
Speaker 5: it to their buddies and you know how it goes.
Speaker 5: It's just such a corrupt world. But I one hundred
Speaker 5: percent agree with you that you got to fix your
Speaker 5: home before you can fix somebody else's.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: But as far as better as go, you know, the
Speaker 1: VA has given me plenty of opportunity and to fix
Speaker 1: my situation, which I have done. Some people say they
Speaker 1: want help, but they won't help themselves. So uh, it's
Speaker 1: really just on an individual cass. I mean, I'm a
Speaker 1: success story. I've seen other success stories and I've seen
Speaker 1: other people fail. It just depends. Some people love being
Speaker 1: in the streets. It doesn't matter how much resources you
Speaker 1: throw at them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've seen that in firsthand. That's just the way
Speaker 5: they like it. And some people just say they don't.
Speaker 5: They just enjoy the freedom of it. I'm sure there's
Speaker 5: you know, a plethora of players under that onion, but yeah,
Speaker 5: I've seen that first stand. But that's awesome to hear
Speaker 5: your success story, and man, I'm so thankful that you're
Speaker 5: you're in a better place now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally me too.
Speaker 5: Uh So, getting back to the flat earth, I want
Speaker 5: to get to the you had talked about the three camps,
Speaker 5: and we'll get to that, but first I'd like to
Speaker 5: ask you what were some of the more convincing pieces
Speaker 5: of evidence that led you to believe, yeah, we're on
Speaker 5: a flat earth.
Speaker 1: I think I heard somewhere down the line that you
Speaker 1: can't really find truth. All you can do is look
Speaker 1: for man, I forget how how it goes. But it's
Speaker 1: like I've found the truth by by just like all
Speaker 1: the lives. It's like there's just I started to notice
Speaker 1: all the lives were being told so many, so many
Speaker 1: documentaries about NASA going to the Moon. I don't believe
Speaker 1: that for a second. And after shifting through so many
Speaker 1: of those lies, like I'm trying to even think about them,
Speaker 1: Like what is it the Challenger mission where they blew
Speaker 1: up all the astronauts yep, but they all have like
Speaker 1: identical twins and talk the same and have the same
Speaker 1: jobs and name some of them yep. So there's that.
Speaker 1: There's the moon landings, you know, that just looks you
Speaker 1: would think all the astronauts would come back and be
Speaker 1: super pumped like rock stars, you know, getting all the
Speaker 1: girls and all the endorsements and advertisements. But they were
Speaker 1: just totally bummed out because they were lying and they
Speaker 1: knew that they were lying, and you can see it
Speaker 1: written all over their face.
Speaker 5: Yeah I would if I was on that Apollo eleven mission,
Speaker 5: I would be every commercial, even back in the late sixties,
Speaker 5: you know, And it's just they look like they were
Speaker 5: at the funeral when they had that press conference, and
Speaker 5: they will have conflicting stories, and of course we've mentioned
Speaker 5: many times Neil Armstrong, he just you know, more or
Speaker 5: less drank himself to death just to kind of numb.
Speaker 5: I believe personally, it's just me personally, I believe he's
Speaker 5: just trumbing, trying to numb his guilt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and his conscious telling him that he's part of
Speaker 1: a big lie, and it's a lie that matters. Just
Speaker 1: people ask me, why does it matter what we're off
Speaker 1: flat or globe, And it's like, because of all the money,
Speaker 1: all the tax money, all the federal income tax money
Speaker 1: that allegedly we pay that goes to NASA, Like that's
Speaker 1: why it matters, because wouldn't everybody you'd like to have
Speaker 1: some more money instead of being you know, having to
Speaker 1: pay all this money through the federal reserves, who does
Speaker 1: whatever they want with our money. Like we're being worked
Speaker 1: to death behind the lie. That's why it matters. In
Speaker 1: my opinions.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really well said. And I think too many
Speaker 5: people today just believe as long as my little neck
Speaker 5: of the woods is going well, and I have a
Speaker 5: good paying job and I have my Netflix and my
Speaker 5: football on Saturday and Sunday that they really don't want
Speaker 5: to rock the boat because in a world of trillions,
Speaker 5: we hear every day in billions, and then you tell
Speaker 5: somebody it's seventy million dollars a day and they're like, well,
Speaker 5: and then really, if you calculate the I need to
Speaker 5: sit down and figure out how much NASA's received since
Speaker 5: their inception. But what has NASA done for us in
Speaker 5: their sixty years and hundreds of billions of dollars? What
Speaker 5: have they done for us?
Speaker 1: Well, they've they've given us the illusion that we're number
Speaker 1: one and that we're all powerful because we had the
Speaker 1: technology to go to the Moon that they accidentally taped
Speaker 1: over and destroyed. So it must not have been that important.
Speaker 5: I tell my friends, how was it that we went
Speaker 5: to the moon on July twentieth, nineteen sixty nine. But
Speaker 5: if I go too high in the mountains, I lose
Speaker 5: my serious XM satellite feed and GPS gets wonky. It's
Speaker 5: just none of it makes And I said that one time,
Speaker 5: and somebody got a right sent me I rate email
Speaker 5: talking about the actual numbers behind satellites and why I
Speaker 5: lost my signal. And some people are just really, and
Speaker 5: I get it because I think all of us, including yourself,
Speaker 5: just the thought of flat earth was silly, even though
Speaker 5: like for myself as a young boy, I never quite
Speaker 5: got the gist of water sticking to a ball. But
Speaker 5: at the same time, right we're programmed subliminally almost to
Speaker 5: believe the ball, So.
Speaker 1: I never really thought it was silly one way or another. Originally,
Speaker 1: before flat Earth, I thought it was hollow I thought
Speaker 1: that there was a whole hollow earth. I saw the
Speaker 1: maps where you know, you can enter hollow Earth through
Speaker 1: like the Pyramids of Gizer, the Mammoth Cave system in Kentucky,
Speaker 1: and that inside was Agartha and there was a whole
Speaker 1: other sun system inside. I thought, I thought it was
Speaker 1: hollow earth. And then and then we found I've figured
Speaker 1: out that it's it's flat because they say that the
Speaker 1: Bible was a flat earth books. Have you heard that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's you know, I have the book two hundred
Speaker 5: verses that point to flat earth. Some of them are
Speaker 5: a little vague, but there are many, many, many, many
Speaker 5: verses that point to a flat and certainly stationary that
Speaker 5: is very clear. And then, of course the word firmament
Speaker 5: is in the Bible which talks about you know, obviously
Speaker 5: Earth next to a vacuum doesn't make any sense. So yeah,
Speaker 5: there's many, many, many verses that lead to the Sun
Speaker 5: standing still Joshua ten thirteen.
Speaker 1: Right, and you said the firmament. Have you seen the
Speaker 1: video where they the many videos out there where they
Speaker 1: try to shoot rockets like straight up in the sky
Speaker 1: and then they literally hit like the firmament wall and
Speaker 1: skid across it. It looks like it looks like a
Speaker 1: boat in water leaving a wake behind it. Yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the Go Fast was one of them, right.
Speaker 1: I believe so I even had one with like a
Speaker 1: camera on it on like whatever they shot up there
Speaker 1: is a GoPro on it and then it literally hits
Speaker 1: the wall and then like binks right off of it
Speaker 1: and starts falling down like what did it just hit?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, the Bible says, you know, the waters below
Speaker 5: and the waters above is Genesis one six. He said,
Speaker 5: and God said, let there be a firmament in the
Speaker 5: midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters
Speaker 5: below from the waters above.
Speaker 3: So maybe that was the waters above the firmament.
Speaker 5: You know, you hit a fishbowl, the waters inside they
Speaker 5: kind of shimmy right.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, And there's another aspect to it too, like
Speaker 1: have you ever seen that video where they get in
Speaker 1: like this little submarine and they go down into the
Speaker 1: I think it's the Mariana Trench and they go all
Speaker 1: the way down and it's like they they're all the
Speaker 1: way down at the bottom of the Mariana Trench in
Speaker 1: the ocean. And when they're down there, they see like
Speaker 1: another like a pond within the ocean, if that makes
Speaker 1: any sense, and they're like, WHOA, what's that. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Let's go over here with our submarine and try to,
Speaker 1: you know, descend into this pond in the ocean, which
Speaker 1: is strange. And they tried to, but it's like their
Speaker 1: summary just bouncing off of it, like exactly how the
Speaker 1: rocket they shot up into the sky ferment and it
Speaker 1: banked off of it and started falling down. That's the
Speaker 1: same thing the summary was doing at the bottom of
Speaker 1: the ocean. Have you seen that?
Speaker 5: I have seen it, but it's been a while and
Speaker 5: I just pulled it up. I found the video on YouTube.
Speaker 5: I put that on as well. I need to go
Speaker 5: back and watch it. It's been a long long time.
Speaker 3: I think it's been within the last two years that
Speaker 3: they found this, right.
Speaker 1: Not sure. I'm not sure. You know, I've been like
Speaker 1: I have. I believe to have a black belt in conspiracies,
Speaker 1: and I have been studying on this for like ten years,
Speaker 1: just constantly, with all the podcasts, all the all the researchers,
Speaker 1: like all the people that got canceled for all the
Speaker 1: truth that they speak. After a period of time, you
Speaker 1: just start to recognize the patterns and eventually you just
Speaker 1: are able to draw your own conclusions. We've been lied
Speaker 1: to about almost every single thing. I don't believe any
Speaker 1: when when any event happens, when like when when Trump
Speaker 1: got shot allegedly and whatever that represents. I told everybody,
Speaker 1: wait two weeks, and we'll see what happens. We'll see
Speaker 1: what the real story is in two weeks. Just give
Speaker 1: it two weeks and and we'll see what really happened.
Speaker 1: And that's that's what I say about every major event.
Speaker 5: Now that that's that's a great point, and I say
Speaker 5: the same thing, and never react immediately. I always wait
Speaker 5: at least a few days because there's always some evidence
Speaker 5: that comes out, and then you know it's a miracle.
Speaker 5: Is his ear just grew back. It's all on one piece,
Speaker 5: no issues, and I I the biggest tell for me
Speaker 5: out of that thing was you go back and you
Speaker 5: look at the Reagan assassination attempt March thirty of nineteen
Speaker 5: eighty one, which I believe that was fake. Two there's
Speaker 5: a I did a podcast on that months ago. But
Speaker 5: you look how quick the Secret Service got him into
Speaker 5: the limo. He didn't say, hey stop, let me pump
Speaker 5: my hand in the air or anything like that. The
Speaker 5: Secret Service literally like it would be no, mister President,
Speaker 5: we're not stopping. And because you don't know how many
Speaker 5: active shooters are out there, and the fact that they
Speaker 5: stopped and let him get that photo op told me
Speaker 5: that was.
Speaker 3: The biggest It just it was a hoax. That's my opinion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there's some there's some things. There's like
Speaker 1: three so I don't know if we if we can
Speaker 1: even get into this on this podcast, but World War
Speaker 1: two and what that was really all about, you know,
Speaker 1: in this whole number about six million, yep, I can't
Speaker 1: see it. I don't see that to have happened that way.
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what happened, But you know, why
Speaker 1: are people not talking about the hallo Domer, right, the
Speaker 1: Hall of Domer that happened before the Holocaust.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you won't find anything about it. You won't find
Speaker 5: anything about the Loto more in your textbooks. You won't
Speaker 5: find anything about the USS liberty and your textbooks, by
Speaker 5: the way, you won't find out what happened between nineteen
Speaker 5: forty five and nineteen forty seven in Germany and went on.
Speaker 1: There, which which I don't even really know exactly what
Speaker 1: you're talking about, but I can see that we're probably
Speaker 1: on the same page.
Speaker 5: Yep, yep, they Yeah, a lot of the Germans tortured
Speaker 5: after World War Two.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm I feel like these are some
Speaker 1: real controversial topics. Nuclear bombs, what are really those? Are
Speaker 1: those really existing too? Or are it was just a threat?
Speaker 1: That is that just like a threat that they can
Speaker 1: hold over everybody's head.
Speaker 5: In my opinion, I think it's a and I hope
Speaker 5: I never find out. Let me just preface by saying that,
Speaker 5: but I think it's what you said. I think it
Speaker 5: is something that they used to keep people in fear.
Speaker 5: You read the Bible, Satan's most powerful tool is deceit,
Speaker 5: and if you look at the pictures March nineteen forty five,
Speaker 5: the Tokyo firebombing versus the Hiroshima Nagasaki pictures, and the
Speaker 5: fact that the only guy who they let go take
Speaker 5: pictures was part He wasn't a Freemason, but he was man.
Speaker 5: I can't remember which group it was, a Builderberg or
Speaker 5: one of these secret societies he was a part of.
Speaker 5: He was the only one allowed in to take pictures,
Speaker 5: so it was controlled. I'm sure they had explosives on
Speaker 5: the ground. And they had napalm in World War Two,
Speaker 5: and I didn't realize that until a couple of years ago.
Speaker 5: I thought napalm didn't come to be until Vietnam. It
Speaker 5: just became prevalent in Vietnam. But they started using that.
Speaker 5: DuPont made it in like forty two or something, and
Speaker 5: they started using apon towards the end of World War Two.
Speaker 5: And all the buildings in Japan back then, they're all
Speaker 5: made of wood, so they all want up in flames.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you know, I think it's just a fear tactic,
Speaker 1: Like you said. Another controversial topic is slavery here in America.
Speaker 1: If if all these other things that we've talked about
Speaker 1: have not been organic or natural the way that we
Speaker 1: were taught they were, why would slavery be any different?
Speaker 1: What's the real story behind slavery? Because the Moors from
Speaker 1: the more science temples say that, you know, they're black people,
Speaker 1: or they don't call themselves black, but they looked like whatever,
Speaker 1: like regular black people whatever. They say that they was
Speaker 1: already here in America. So and I'm just like, half
Speaker 1: truth is a whole lie. So what really is the truth?
Speaker 1: And I've heard other people talk about what the Civil
Speaker 1: War was and if that even happened.
Speaker 5: So yeah, you know, that's another one of the subjects
Speaker 5: that I failed to get into, which is, you know,
Speaker 5: you don't want to talk about the mud floods and
Speaker 5: created history and things of that nature. The Civil War
Speaker 5: obviously was about and I've did a podcast on this,
Speaker 5: as weill Abraham Lincoln was by far the most tyrannical
Speaker 5: president in history. If you talk bad about him, he
Speaker 5: shut your newspaper down, he imprisoned you, he threatened a
Speaker 5: Supreme Court justice. But yeah, that's I agree with you,
Speaker 5: And I even myself now today questioned the fact that
Speaker 5: was the whole Revolutionary War story just about getting a
Speaker 5: hold of all the colonists who got away from England
Speaker 5: and the king to come over here and have their
Speaker 5: free them, you know, of religion and their freedom of
Speaker 5: speech and to go about their own way. So they
Speaker 5: took a freemason. I'm just this is what I think.
Speaker 5: What if you took a freemason, a guy who was
Speaker 5: really loyal to King George the third? But made think
Speaker 5: about this, how many times do they appear to give
Speaker 5: us a victory. We feel good about ourselves, but at
Speaker 5: the end of the day, we make no progress if
Speaker 5: they say, yay, we beat England and we have our freedom.
Speaker 5: But what happened, Well, a federal government.
Speaker 1: Was established, yes, and a central bank.
Speaker 5: And the central bank, right, that's the charter ran out
Speaker 5: in eighteen twelve. That's what that war was about, the banks.
Speaker 5: And then eighteen thirties they had a party. I don't
Speaker 5: know if you know this or not. You can look
Speaker 5: it up. It's the Anti Mason Party. Back in the
Speaker 5: eighteen thirties, they've recognized that freemason's involvement in government was
Speaker 5: a big problem, so they actually started an anti Mace party.
Speaker 5: There was a guy who was a Freemason who was
Speaker 5: going to come clean about the truth about the Freemasons.
Speaker 5: He wrote a book, the Freemasons murdered him, and he
Speaker 5: disappeared off the phase of the earth. So they started
Speaker 5: the Anti Mason Party in eighteen twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Right, And it seems like it seems like anybody who
Speaker 1: tries to tell the truth or anything, they they threaten them,
Speaker 1: or they they blackmail them, or they you know, they
Speaker 1: hurt their family. So it's hard to get the truth
Speaker 1: out there. But you know, little by little, the truth
Speaker 1: is going to come out no matter what, because the
Speaker 1: most High is going to see to it. But everything
Speaker 1: happens in time. And we we were talking about how
Speaker 1: like where we think war is going you know here soon,
Speaker 1: And dude, you were mentioning something about how you Krae
Speaker 1: was given the green light to shoot you know, long
Speaker 1: range weapons into Russia, right, correct. Yeah, So so how
Speaker 1: would we know if they actually did that, because like
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of the patterns that I
Speaker 1: recognize is it's like based on let's not do it,
Speaker 1: but let's just say we did it, you know, because
Speaker 1: they could just say that Ukraine shot some weapons into Russia,
Speaker 1: but maybe they didn't even really do it. You know,
Speaker 1: how are we even going to know if it's organic
Speaker 1: or not.
Speaker 5: Oh, one hundred percent. We won't know if it's organic
Speaker 5: or not. That's what I've been saying for the last year.
Speaker 5: Don't be surprised that that nuclear reactor that they have,
Speaker 5: don't be surprised if there's a false flag involved there
Speaker 5: or the.
Speaker 3: World's not the world.
Speaker 5: The largest AMMO depot in Eastern Europe sits on the
Speaker 5: border of I forget what country, and they could take that.
Speaker 3: We wouldn't know if it was organic or not. And
Speaker 3: that's the thing.
Speaker 5: Sometimes it's organic and they take the situation and run
Speaker 5: with it, Like Pedesto said, If it's organic, we run
Speaker 5: with it. If not, we make it a false flag,
Speaker 5: basically right, and we won't know the truth. And that's
Speaker 5: been the pattern for two hundred years and going back,
Speaker 5: who knows how far.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to trying to recall, like what
Speaker 1: really got me into flat earth and it was allegedly Daves.
Speaker 1: Have you listened or looked at any of allegedly Dave's information, you.
Speaker 5: Know, I've I'm sure I've come across him before. It's
Speaker 5: hard to keep because every person who I talk to
Speaker 5: introduces me to some other things. And I've got hundreds
Speaker 5: of YouTube channels. I know he's on YouTube, right, yeah,
Speaker 5: de Murphy twenty five, Yeah, yeah, I've definitely subscribed to him.
Speaker 5: It's hard to keep up with everybody, but yeah, you
Speaker 5: have allegedly Dave who talks about Jehovah.
Speaker 1: Right, he talks about Jehovah. He has. His topics on
Speaker 1: flat Earth are really good. He did the Bedford level experiment,
Speaker 1: you know where with lasers and p nine hundred nikon cameras.
Speaker 1: His work on flat Earth is great. But he has
Speaker 1: like this, He goes through the Bible and tracks the
Speaker 1: human history of Jehovah's people, you know, because if you
Speaker 1: follow in the Old Testament, it's like basically the tracking
Speaker 1: of a bloodline, and the bloodline gets corrupted and then
Speaker 1: and then Jacob wrestles with the most art and becomes
Speaker 1: pure and changes his name to Israel, and then there's
Speaker 1: a chosen line through Israel, you know it. And I'm
Speaker 1: getting way ahead of myself here, but it kind of
Speaker 1: all started with Noah. Noah had three sons, and Shim
Speaker 1: was the chosen son. J Pet and Ham were not chosen.
Speaker 1: Shim was the chosen one. Now, what's really what's really
Speaker 1: interesting is these people that claim to be Chosen, but
Speaker 1: claim and what they say is that they're Ashkinazi. Well,
Speaker 1: if you look at it, the bloodlines of sham Ham
Speaker 1: and jpet Oshkinaz falls under jpest bloodline. So how are
Speaker 1: Oshtinazi's claiming to be Semitic when they're not from the
Speaker 1: bloodline of shim Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a that's a great point.
Speaker 1: So you know, you have this whole human history and
Speaker 1: and it's basically you know, there are fallen angels, we
Speaker 1: we have been rupted. Then they have found giants everywhere.
Speaker 1: The Smithsonian Smithsonium Museum uh covers them up and they've
Speaker 1: been archived in old newspapers and so so we know
Speaker 1: that that's the thing. Now, what what I've been trying
Speaker 1: to do is trying to get I wanted allegedly Dave
Speaker 1: and Paul Stops to have a conversation because there and uh,
Speaker 1: there's like there's like three different camps on this human history.
Speaker 1: You have allegedly Days who follows follows Jehovah and through
Speaker 1: the Bible and uh and goes through the human history
Speaker 1: of that chosen bloodline and who those people are. Then
Speaker 1: you have Paul Stops from under Understanding Conspiracy, who has
Speaker 1: really talked a lot about the millennial reign, of the
Speaker 1: Millennial Kingdom, thousand year reign in the short season. That's
Speaker 1: all talked about in Revelation twenty about how how Jesus
Speaker 1: has already reigned for a thousand years and like everyone's
Speaker 1: in this day and age, it is waiting for him
Speaker 1: to come back. The the idea is that he already
Speaker 1: came for a thousand years, and we're in Satan's short
Speaker 1: season and that's why we're being run through this gauntlet
Speaker 1: of deception. Okay. So then then you have the third camp,
Speaker 1: which is the Moors from the More Science Temple that
Speaker 1: say that uh that that they've been, that they're the
Speaker 1: original people of of Earth, and they they were everywhere,
Speaker 1: they were already in a marria before slaves were being
Speaker 1: brought over here. So and Michelle Gibson, who is a
Speaker 1: researcher on YouTube who's very thorough, she can co sign
Speaker 1: with all her research with the Morris. So there seems
Speaker 1: to be three different camps. The Moors, they they worship Allah,
Speaker 1: their Moslims, that's what they say. You have postops. He says,
Speaker 1: you know Jesus is real and that he has he
Speaker 1: doesn't say anything. He asked a lot of questions. This
Speaker 1: is just like basically the idea of the camps that
Speaker 1: Jesus has already come and reigned for a thousand years.
Speaker 1: Then you have a legendly Dave who follows only Jehovah
Speaker 1: and shows that what is his his idea. His idea
Speaker 1: is that.
Speaker 3: Basically what is that the bloodlines right, the sea lines.
Speaker 1: Right, the bloodlines, and basically you know that Jehovah's chosen
Speaker 1: people are the black people in America who were brought
Speaker 1: over here ast and that the Africans that were in
Speaker 1: West Africa that captured the other black people which are
Speaker 1: from that bloodline from Nigeria which was called the Slave Coast.
Speaker 1: And then the country then which is represents the tribe
Speaker 1: of Benjamin, because Judah and Benjamin flew escaped from the
Speaker 1: other twelve tribes down into Africa and those Africans, so
Speaker 1: those those Israelites into bondage, into slavery. That's that's basically
Speaker 1: what these three camps, that's their ideas. I would love
Speaker 1: to get them all three together and talk. I've tried
Speaker 1: to facilitate that like YouTube comments. But allegedly Dave will
Speaker 1: not have a discussion with Paul sobs. I asked him,
Speaker 1: he said no. Michelle Gibson was I think she said
Speaker 1: that she was going to have a conversation with allegendly Dave,
Speaker 1: so that would be great. But they all have compelling
Speaker 1: messages and I'm trying to figure out what the truth is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's I don't know what the stigma is with Paul.
Speaker 5: We had him on the podcast a year ago or so.
Speaker 5: He's in England, I believe, and he released a book.
Speaker 5: He's the one who said that the the Nephilum looked
Speaker 5: like clowns and he did that and then yeah, he
Speaker 5: talks about the millennial kingdom. Sometimes YouTubers don't like to
Speaker 5: intermix each other on their channels because I think they
Speaker 5: feel like if they get into a debate and can't
Speaker 5: properly support their message, which I am not in any way,
Speaker 5: shape or form saying that they would, but I just think,
Speaker 5: especially since the debate with Dean Odle and Pastor Locke,
Speaker 5: I think people have shied away a little bit from
Speaker 5: the debate stage. Outside of I can't remember the gentleman
Speaker 5: who goes around in debates all the time. He's gotten
Speaker 5: very popular with a flat Earth movement as well. I'm
Speaker 5: sorry he has an ame slip my mind, but all
Speaker 5: three have compelling arguments. I think out of the three,
Speaker 5: I probably lean closer to allegedly Dave. But to be fair,
Speaker 5: I'm not familiar at all. I know the Moors have
Speaker 5: been around for about one hundred years. They officially came
Speaker 5: together in nineteen twenty five. Paul I talked with him
Speaker 5: more about the Nephelum than we did the Millennium Kingdom.
Speaker 5: There's a few people on YouTube who's getting fairly large
Speaker 5: believing that we are in Satan's little season. But I
Speaker 5: think it is a seed line thing. I mean, that's
Speaker 5: the reason God wiped out the earth the first time.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: I was sorry, I didn't chest I didn't catch what
Speaker 1: you said.
Speaker 5: No, I was just saying, that's probably that's why God
Speaker 5: flooded the earth the first time, because of the seed
Speaker 5: line with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely following angel corruption.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you look at the how sciences is mingling
Speaker 5: with our bloodlines now, right, That's something I think about often.
Speaker 5: And then you had mentioned Japeth and uh to ashkenas
Speaker 5: the curse of Ham and then of course you have
Speaker 5: Neimrod is a direct descendant of him as well, and
Speaker 5: Nemrod is something that both Rob Skiba and Dustiniamos talk
Speaker 5: about at nauseam.
Speaker 1: So and I don't really want these fashions to get
Speaker 1: together and debate. I would just like them to have
Speaker 1: a conversation. Absolutely, And uh, you know, because because then
Speaker 1: you think it was kind of interesting how Nilo grass
Speaker 1: Tyson was supposed to have a discussion with what's the
Speaker 1: other flavor guy? Uh? You mentioned his book earlier, two
Speaker 1: hundred proofs or just flat.
Speaker 3: I don't remember the author, but it was probably David Weiss, right.
Speaker 1: No, it's the other martial artist guy Dang. I can't
Speaker 1: remember Eric Dubay.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's right, Eric debab Right, it was.
Speaker 1: The both of the other Joe Rogan podcast. Why why
Speaker 1: did that discussion not happen? You know, I see right
Speaker 1: through Neil degrass Tyson. I don't believe anything that guy says. No,
Speaker 1: he looks like lying every time he opens his mouth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and even at times he'll disclose the truth.
Speaker 5: Talking about the Red Bull Jump where he said only
Speaker 5: you know the altitudes, was even at that altitude he
Speaker 5: wouldn't be able to see the curve.
Speaker 3: So he will disclose the truth every now and then.
Speaker 5: Okay, but yeah, in little tidbits. Yeah, but they use
Speaker 5: these people just for disclosure as well. But he's he's
Speaker 5: a snake oil salesman.
Speaker 1: I can and I can spell it on him. I
Speaker 1: can see it. You know, there was a lot to
Speaker 1: go into, you know, because on this whole Millennial kingdom. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know the beautiful architecture. I mean, do you have
Speaker 1: any thoughts on that, like if you just have you
Speaker 1: seen any of like, you know, these cathedrals and this
Speaker 1: beautiful architecture. I was brought brought to my attention the
Speaker 1: World's Fairs, the one in Chicago with the White City
Speaker 1: and what they were doing with these airships and all
Speaker 1: this free electricity, Like our lives could be so much
Speaker 1: better than what they are, but we are just being
Speaker 1: held down. And have you seen any of this architecture
Speaker 1: and stuff like that?
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 5: I just mentioned earlier this week that I believe that
Speaker 5: a lot of the church bells have been taken out
Speaker 5: because there's a lot of people. There's a lot of
Speaker 5: historical documents on vibrattions and how they can heal and
Speaker 5: then going back to Chicago and the blimps.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: There's many people who believe, and you can find these
Speaker 5: alternate videos on bit shoot and rumble who believed that
Speaker 5: the Hindenburg disaster was intentional to bring an end to
Speaker 5: that so people would they'd have to use controlled flying
Speaker 5: they couldn't fly around in that anymore and.
Speaker 1: Explore Yeah, uh, which is just so so interesting. Everything
Speaker 1: branches out and this into so many different avenues. But
Speaker 1: it's like, if this architecture is all over the world,
Speaker 1: would wouldn't the world would have had to have been
Speaker 1: at peace for a thousand years in order for all
Speaker 1: of these these uh continents and places the world to
Speaker 1: come together and build these structures which are a lot
Speaker 1: of like but different in their own little ways. Like
Speaker 1: did Jesus already reign for a thousand years and we're
Speaker 1: in the little season now? It would kind of make sense.
Speaker 1: It's a very compelling story.
Speaker 5: I will tell you that story is gaining traction in
Speaker 5: the community. But you know, it's I think it's Revelation
Speaker 5: twenty right, the first ten verses or so.
Speaker 3: It is interesting to me.
Speaker 5: How in some ways we've gone backwards with things, Like
Speaker 5: you said, I got married in a church in Hungary
Speaker 5: that was built in the fourteen hundreds, and so the
Speaker 5: church is six hundred years old. And the construction and
Speaker 5: the beauty of the architecture, it's just where we've gone
Speaker 5: from then to now with the limited rules that they
Speaker 5: had to build these things, you know, and now some
Speaker 5: people think, uh, the pyramids, like was that built by
Speaker 5: the Nephylum before the flood or you know, there's a
Speaker 5: lot of theory. What's your theory on the pyramids?
Speaker 1: I had heard something about how the Nephylin built pyramids
Speaker 1: everywhere to set up It's like the electromagnetic grid system
Speaker 1: that created the prison planet. It is all orchestrated by
Speaker 1: these pyramids. I've heard that a long time ago. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the validity to that is. But the
Speaker 1: that same what do they canct bigsaw puzzle? You know,
Speaker 1: building method that's found everywhere there. There had to have
Speaker 1: been communication between everybody to have that happen, and you know,
Speaker 1: there there had to be some type of divinity into
Speaker 1: this architecture. Like when you walked into those cathedrals that
Speaker 1: you said you got married in, did you have like
Speaker 1: a body high and the head.
Speaker 3: Change you mean in that building.
Speaker 1: In the cathedral that you were married in.
Speaker 3: You know, here's the thing.
Speaker 5: I don't have a great memory these days. I remember
Speaker 5: vividly everything of I can still close my not even
Speaker 5: close my eyes. I can see every the entire church
Speaker 5: from the inside, so much more than I can other buildings.
Speaker 5: So I guess there's something to it. I mean, it
Speaker 5: was obviously a special day, so I'm sure that memory
Speaker 5: gets filed with a few more gigabytes in it. But
Speaker 5: I remember every square inch of that church and the
Speaker 5: beauty of it and just being in all and that's
Speaker 5: something special about being in Europe. And it's kind of
Speaker 5: a shame to see that much of Europe is kind
Speaker 5: of gone down the toilet. Because I've been to Germany, Austria,
Speaker 5: the Balkans, Hungry. The architecture there is simply amazing. And
Speaker 5: you come to the States. Yes, we have we have
Speaker 5: it good. We have new cars, and everybody has a
Speaker 5: house with a small yard, and we have our Wi
Speaker 5: Fi and our cell phones. But there's something maybe it's
Speaker 5: just as you get older, about having a simpler life
Speaker 5: and enjoying that, you know, just the cobblestone roads and
Speaker 5: the cathedrals, with the bells, and you know, obviously the illuminati, right,
Speaker 5: it's to be illuminated. They are obviously holding technology that
Speaker 5: would free us from you know, being a slave to
Speaker 5: the matrix, not having to pay electric bills. Obviously, tests
Speaker 5: will prove that. But they can't have us sitting around
Speaker 5: thinking and banded together. And they want us working sixty
Speaker 5: hours a week. They want our children in public schools
Speaker 5: so that there's definitely a method to their madness.
Speaker 1: I agree with that they you know, and it just
Speaker 1: it feels like we're being held back. It feels like
Speaker 1: a lot of people, you know, they're I have a
Speaker 1: lot of conversations with people, and we talk about things
Speaker 1: that you and I are talking about, and if they
Speaker 1: don't know about it, they're not surprised. I don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of people fighting me on a bunch of
Speaker 1: stuff really much anymore. A lot of people know a
Speaker 1: little something about a little of different topics. But when
Speaker 1: I came home from overseas, I just felt like we
Speaker 1: were all ready to to get to a higher level,
Speaker 1: but we were being held back. I couldn't quite put
Speaker 1: my finger on it. But it's just all these lies,
Speaker 1: all these deceptions, you know, Have you ever seen that
Speaker 1: Sandy Hook documentary called Sandy Hook, Line and Sinker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen that and a few others. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: You know, that's a big one that gets me in
Speaker 1: trouble when I talked about it too. But you know,
Speaker 1: in Sandy Hook, Line and Sinker, one of the kids
Speaker 1: that allegedly got killed in Sandy Hook had like one
Speaker 1: or two years later, same kid, different name, same picture,
Speaker 1: got killed in a school shooting in Pakistan. Really, how
Speaker 1: is that possible?
Speaker 5: I hadn't heard that, I know when Obama took over
Speaker 5: in two thousand and nine. And then the NDAA of
Speaker 5: twenty twelve, which was the Smith Modernization Act, which allowed
Speaker 5: the federal government to you know, put propaganda against the people.
Speaker 5: It was originally created in nineteen forty six or forty eight,
Speaker 5: right after World War Two. It was meant that we
Speaker 5: could use propaganda against the enemy, but it was illegal
Speaker 5: to use it against the CITs and other states. That
Speaker 5: all changed and then you look at what happened in
Speaker 5: Las Va. I guess you look at the biggest one
Speaker 5: is the Boston bombing. I mean you, I mean, and
Speaker 5: that is the lamest attempt.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: You know, the guys who were there with the backpacks
Speaker 5: and it was just a really pathetic attempt. And I
Speaker 5: think that one is just really the one that takes
Speaker 5: the cake, and that anybody can see that it was
Speaker 5: just another just another real psychological operation. It was a drill, yep, absolutely,
Speaker 5: and it's they were saying it on the speakers. The
Speaker 5: Boston Police said it was going to be a drill.
Speaker 1: So so where are we heading? Like, are like, is
Speaker 1: the Great White Thrown Judgment about to be taken place?
Speaker 1: Are we all going to get a one world government
Speaker 1: and a one world army to fight you know, Jesus
Speaker 1: in the Campus Saints in the North Pole, But what
Speaker 1: is about to be happening? And like where are we heading?
Speaker 5: Well, we're We're definitely heading towards a one world government.
Speaker 5: We're then we'll I think secondly, we'll be a one
Speaker 5: world currency. I think that's what's going to you know,
Speaker 5: I had mentioned beforehand. I do think that there's going
Speaker 5: to be a financial meltdown and that'll give them a
Speaker 5: reason to bring in a cb DC and then the
Speaker 5: final tracking device, because they track us through social media,
Speaker 5: our cell phones, but if they take cash away from us,
Speaker 5: that then we are one hundred percent completely tracked. Like
Speaker 5: you know, a lot of the local people here we
Speaker 5: engage in cash. But if they take that away, then
Speaker 5: you'll be There'll still be ways to get around it.
Speaker 5: You'll have to barter, Like I'll give somebody a dozen
Speaker 5: eggs and they'll give me, you know, fifty twenty two's
Speaker 5: or something. You know what I'm saying that there's always
Speaker 5: a way around. But you know, it's I think that
Speaker 5: we are if you just think in twenty three years
Speaker 5: from nine to eleven to how how much tyranny that
Speaker 5: we faced over just twenty three years, and where the
Speaker 5: world's at today, especially with this election that's just gonna
Speaker 5: people are going to erupt and lose their mind whatever
Speaker 5: team loses. I think we're really just interesting times. And
Speaker 5: that's why it's so important. I always tell people at
Speaker 5: the end of my podcast, you know, make sure you're
Speaker 5: physically ready, but be spiritually ready because.
Speaker 3: Our time on this realm is short compared to eternity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, we live in a Zionist occupied government,
Speaker 1: this dual citizenship to Israel with all of our politicians, Like,
Speaker 1: what is up with that? Do we even have a
Speaker 1: country anymore? Like it? Just seems like everything is in
Speaker 1: the interest of somebody else and we're all being neglected.
Speaker 1: You talk about money and your currency, like, what was
Speaker 1: wrong with gold? I talked to people about this all
Speaker 1: the time. There was no problem with gold. The problem
Speaker 1: with gold is that it worked too good. And the
Speaker 1: argument is, oh, you know there's not enough gold in
Speaker 1: the world for everybody to have it. Well, the earth
Speaker 1: makes gold, and nobody can really make a claim on
Speaker 1: gold other than you know, the most high who runs
Speaker 1: this earth, who created this earth, or maybe the mint
Speaker 1: that gives it its intrinsic markings. But the government's deal
Speaker 1: in gold, I don't know if you saw this video
Speaker 1: about the Bank of England. Let one of the famous
Speaker 1: actors run through their gold ball and it's just stacked
Speaker 1: full of gold bars and bars of gold. All the
Speaker 1: countries dealing gold. They admitted that they have countries from
Speaker 1: all over the world who who keep their gold in
Speaker 1: the Bank of England gold ball? Well, why are we
Speaker 1: not using gold?
Speaker 5: And I'll tell you Another sign of what's to come
Speaker 5: is the value of gold, and it's the highest it's
Speaker 5: ever been. So most people say the higher gold goes,
Speaker 5: the more likely are to have some type of whether
Speaker 5: it be internal external conflict, something bad is on the horizon.
Speaker 5: When the powers that be start investing in gold, the
Speaker 5: price shoots up. So and if you look at old
Speaker 5: Warren Buffett, he took all his money out of the
Speaker 5: banks and he's put it in gold, so they know
Speaker 5: something's up.
Speaker 1: Do you remember back on a Joe Rogan episode back
Speaker 1: in like twenty sixteen, there was a guy named Peter
Speaker 1: Shift that came on the Joe Rogan podcast and he
Speaker 1: said that he created this company and it was called
Speaker 1: gold Money, and basically and he gave his debit card.
Speaker 1: He showed his debit card on the podcast. It was
Speaker 1: a solid gold debit card and he was like, I
Speaker 1: make all the same debit card transactions you make with
Speaker 1: your debit card, except mine's made out of twenty four
Speaker 1: gold and the debit that comes from my card is
Speaker 1: from a bank that is holding my gold in it.
Speaker 1: And that was it was shut down. I mean, why
Speaker 1: is that not a thing? If he had it back
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, why are we all not using that now?
Speaker 3: And that's the thing.
Speaker 5: I got a lot of people who get very excited
Speaker 5: about crypto and more power to you it's just brother,
Speaker 5: I'm not happy about investing in something I can't see.
Speaker 5: And I was not aware of that video. Maybe I
Speaker 5: wonder if it's been saved and re up posted on
Speaker 5: bit shoot or rumble.
Speaker 3: What was the name of the guest?
Speaker 1: Peter Schiff been on a couple of times. It's like
Speaker 1: the economists and he really knows the economy and stock marketing.
Speaker 3: Sires familiar with them. Yep, yep, that's right.
Speaker 1: That's so, you know, because they say that that kings
Speaker 1: and queens use gold, common people use silver, poor people
Speaker 1: use the barter system, and slaves use our slaves to
Speaker 1: debt a debtit based, debt based credit system. And we're
Speaker 1: held down by the money that we're not allowed to use.
Speaker 1: We're held down with our education, we're held down with
Speaker 1: our leadership. How are we going to rise above? Like
Speaker 1: I guess, like what I tell people, just have to
Speaker 1: treat your neighbor how you want to be treated. And
Speaker 1: if everybody did that, I think we'd all be just fine. Man.
Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 5: And you would mentioned before we get too far away,
Speaker 5: you'd mention the dual citizens, the people who are really
Speaker 5: in charge of this country. You got Larry Fink of
Speaker 5: Black Rock. You got Anthony Blincoln, who's the face of
Speaker 5: this government. He's the one talking to all the government leads.
Speaker 5: Biden is not running this country. And then of course
Speaker 5: Michael Chertoff By the way, Michael chertoff Man, I did
Speaker 5: an entire podcast on that dude. His father was a
Speaker 5: Talmudick scholar, So that tells you all what he thinks
Speaker 5: about us.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't mind, you know, like you know,
Speaker 1: I'm saying it like I own the country, but I
Speaker 1: don't mind other people coming into our country living here.
Speaker 1: I love America, but it's like if you make money here,
Speaker 1: spend your money here, you know. I just feel like
Speaker 1: we're not allowed to have any nationalism. We're not allowed
Speaker 1: to be proud to be American, even though everybody wants
Speaker 1: to be here. But because we dominate, and uh, we're like,
Speaker 1: are they gonna start letting these these people flooding into
Speaker 1: our borders join into our military? Is that what's about
Speaker 1: to be happening?
Speaker 5: So my two different thoughts are number one, if war
Speaker 5: does kickoff, they're going to send them over to fight.
Speaker 5: Or number two, which is even scarier, is they send
Speaker 5: all the citizens off to fight and backfill them here,
Speaker 5: which would really fall in place with the Clergie plans
Speaker 5: and send the like you said here. Think about this,
Speaker 5: it'll come together in a second. You remember the first
Speaker 5: football game back after nine to eleven and the Giants
Speaker 5: or whoever ran on the field, all the football teams
Speaker 5: ran on the field with a flag, and it was
Speaker 5: very patriotic.
Speaker 1: I recall something like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, very patriotic the country after nine to eleven, those
Speaker 5: first few weeks, very very patriotic. If today, if you
Speaker 5: waive the flag or you are a nationalist, you're considered
Speaker 5: a racist.
Speaker 1: You know, man I talk about I have been called
Speaker 1: a race like a couple of times because of my
Speaker 1: criticism of George Floyd. And I listened to that woman,
Speaker 1: her name is Miriam. She made a documentary about the
Speaker 1: George Floyd situation. And my thoughts on George Floyd is, look,
Speaker 1: if you're going to be committing misdemeanors or felonies in
Speaker 1: the streets by using counterfeit money, if you're going to
Speaker 1: be intoxicated in public and you want to live a
Speaker 1: street life, be in the streets, and you want to
Speaker 1: resist the rest because if I was in the army
Speaker 1: infantry and we were trying to detain somebody and they
Speaker 1: were acting like that. I wouldn't have it wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been nice what we would have done to him, you know. So,
Speaker 1: So what happened to George Floyd. I think he overdosed
Speaker 1: on drugs. The whole situation relation was shaky. But but
Speaker 1: don't act a fool in these streets and then start
Speaker 1: crying about it when you get killed in the streets.
Speaker 1: You want to commit misdemeanors and felonies in the streets,
Speaker 1: you want to be involved in the fast life in
Speaker 1: the streets, and you get killed, don't cry about it,
Speaker 1: you know. But and I'm a racist from that apparently.
Speaker 1: But if you watch the videos of what happened with
Speaker 1: George Floyd, all it did was like make the tension
Speaker 1: between the races worse.
Speaker 3: Yep, Like.
Speaker 1: They gotta wanted to fight with each other through this
Speaker 1: media and it is just one hundred percent fabricated. And
Speaker 1: we got to rise above that. We all got to
Speaker 1: come together at some point.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing.
Speaker 5: We have to stop taking the bait because it's always
Speaker 5: divide and conquer and we fall forward every time. Uh, Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's that's a very deep rabbit hole in itself. And
Speaker 5: of course the mockingbird media fueled you. Again, you were
Speaker 5: either for George Floyd or you were against George Floyd. Right,
Speaker 5: it was divide and conquered. We watched the city's burn.
Speaker 5: It was just amazing what we saw in twenty twenties,
Speaker 5: a year that hopefully it was just I can't even
Speaker 5: believe to this day that it existed, between churches being
Speaker 5: closed down and just cities burning, and then George Floyd
Speaker 5: and how they make Look, I don't like to see
Speaker 5: anybody die, but to champion and make statues of someone
Speaker 5: who held a gun to a pregnant woman, he was
Speaker 5: no fallen angel. Again, I don't want to. I don't
Speaker 5: champion anybody's death. I feel, you know, life is something
Speaker 5: that we should cherish. Every life is important. But just
Speaker 5: the way they carried it and we fell for it
Speaker 5: hook line and sinker, and caused such division and it
Speaker 5: was even uncomfortable for you know, you'd go to the
Speaker 5: grocery store, you could tell the people whether you're black
Speaker 5: or white. You could feel the anchor people invested into it.
Speaker 5: And that's why I say, if you want to get
Speaker 5: the truth movement going. Take your television and throw it
Speaker 5: out the window. Certainly if you want to keep it,
Speaker 5: play your video games. Just get rid of the mainstream
Speaker 5: media because they only have one job and one job only,
Speaker 5: and that's divide and conquer. And that twenty twenty, Boy
Speaker 5: did they get us.
Speaker 1: You know, and that bringing back into COVID, because like,
Speaker 1: I literally had people who were you know, I'm in shape,
Speaker 1: I'm in sickness. I live right, I don't drink his smoke,
Speaker 1: you know, I praise and worship. I try to live
Speaker 1: my life right. I had people who are totally opposite
Speaker 1: of that, trying to tell me how to live my life,
Speaker 1: like acting like I'm sick and I'm I'm like, hold,
Speaker 1: you can't tell me to put my mask on when
Speaker 1: yours visit. And I'm just like, look, man, I could
Speaker 1: pass a PT test right now. What are you doing?
Speaker 1: You know, maybe you should be wearing a mask. You
Speaker 1: know what we did in the military, Man, if somebody
Speaker 1: couldn't pass height and weight, they did remedial PT until
Speaker 1: they could YEP.
Speaker 3: Every day after work five to six.
Speaker 1: We brought the low level, the weakest links up to
Speaker 1: the high level of where the strong links were. That's right.
Speaker 1: What COVID did was in reverse. They wanted all the
Speaker 1: strong people to come down to the low yep, and
Speaker 1: be done in the low with them totally backwards. Yep.
Speaker 5: That's what our education system does is they educate down
Speaker 5: to the lowest person. Not the lowest person, but they
Speaker 5: I forget the proper terminolity. They teach down right instead
Speaker 5: of championing. And like you said, and we have assault,
Speaker 5: you're only as good as your I'm trying to be
Speaker 5: a wordsmith here, but you're only good as your weakest soldier,
Speaker 5: I think is the right way to say.
Speaker 1: It, right, Yeah, yeah, you all have to be on
Speaker 1: the same page. And when you bring up education, I'm
Speaker 1: getting a college propaganda education. Now the VA is paying
Speaker 1: for me. I'm a vocational rehabilitation, which is great, but
Speaker 1: I'm taking some of these classes and it is just
Speaker 1: like totally woke. It's my teacher literally pulled up a
Speaker 1: list of conspiracies and said, look at all all these
Speaker 1: ridiculous things. Look at kim trails. There's no such thing
Speaker 1: as kim trails. We're not even going to discuss flat earth.
Speaker 1: Look at the moon landing. I sent him. Videos of
Speaker 1: of the CIA director Neil Brennan talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: Kim trails are real. You just can't call them Kim trails.
Speaker 1: You have to call them stratospheric aerosol injections. And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: so they are a thing. They literally are spraying strontium,
Speaker 1: barium and aluminum up in the sky. And if but
Speaker 1: if you call them Kim trails, it's a conspiracy. But
Speaker 1: if you call them stratospheric aerosol injects, is that they're
Speaker 1: actually like part of a program to solve some problem
Speaker 1: that we have. So which one is it? Is it
Speaker 1: a conspiracy or is it the answer to a problem.
Speaker 5: And that's awesome that you actually challenge your professor on
Speaker 5: those because there's new clip. There's news clips all over
Speaker 5: YouTube of people coming on and admitting it they've been
Speaker 5: cloud seating. That's not exactly. It is a form of
Speaker 5: stratosphere injections. Operation pop Hye in Vietnam. That that's they
Speaker 5: tried to flood the dirt roads on the Ho Chi
Speaker 5: Minh trail, I think it was, and they cloud seated
Speaker 5: the clouds and it rained. It's just even they do
Speaker 5: it in to buy now they went weeks without rain.
Speaker 3: They cloud seated. It's what they do. So again.
Speaker 5: It's that is a woke mind is not to challenge anything.
Speaker 5: They want to critically eliminate.
Speaker 3: Check that.
Speaker 5: They want to eliminate critical thinking altogether. So you just
Speaker 5: you become subservient. That's why they went serfs. They want
Speaker 5: a world as serfs, not a world where people question things.
Speaker 5: And that's really what twenty twenty and going forward has been.
Speaker 5: You know, did you know that FBI has a list
Speaker 5: of words that they have like tracked, So anytime you
Speaker 5: use that particular word on social media, they track it.
Speaker 5: Red pilled is one of them nationalists as one up
Speaker 5: we mentioned that word or earlier. These aren't conspiracy theories there,
Speaker 5: these are facts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know what, I'm from the Army Infantry.
Speaker 1: So someone wants to come and talk to you about
Speaker 1: my beliefs or whatever, they can come because it's too
Speaker 1: many lies out here, and so I'm not allowed to
Speaker 1: ask questions. You know that people get mad at me
Speaker 1: just for asking questions. Like when I was going through
Speaker 1: the whole George Floyd situation with somebody, all I did
Speaker 1: was ask questions and I was called racist for asking questions.
Speaker 1: That's where we're at now, and you know, to to
Speaker 1: piggyback off of that, you know, allegedly Dave and his
Speaker 1: bloodline followed in the Bible. It's basically saying that that
Speaker 1: the original prototype of man is it was called negro,
Speaker 1: Like negro was the original prototype, and that word has
Speaker 1: been demonized. So like if I explained to someone and say,
Speaker 1: you know, actually negro is like the chosen people and
Speaker 1: it's actually like maybe it's a good thing, people get
Speaker 1: so mad at me just because I said negro. I
Speaker 1: mean college classes with all kinds of people, all kinds Blacks, whites, Mexicans, Asians,
Speaker 1: all kinds of people. The professor is referencing and saying
Speaker 1: the word negro. Not one person said anything about. Not
Speaker 1: one person stood up and said, hey, you know, that's
Speaker 1: a bad word, nothing like that. But if I try
Speaker 1: to say in these streets as if it's a compliment, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's so strange, man, Like I've had this
Speaker 1: stuff man ruined relationships for me in a terrible way.
Speaker 1: You know. You hear these guys come on these podcasts
Speaker 1: like me, and they say that they lost their family
Speaker 1: behind this stuff. Their wife left them. I mean, I
Speaker 1: had a girlfriend of mine who was like, look, I
Speaker 1: like you, but it's like every topic I try to
Speaker 1: talk about you in it in a conspiracy and I'm
Speaker 1: just like, well, i mean proved me wrong. Then I'm
Speaker 1: not like doom and gloom about it. But I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna highlight the the alternative narrative.
Speaker 5: So do you think that, because I've come across that before.
Speaker 5: But the biggest problem is Nelson, I don't truly and
Speaker 5: this comes full circle back to flat Earth we got
Speaker 5: about eight minutes left, is that I just don't think
Speaker 5: that people truly understand the true meaning behind the deception,
Speaker 5: like how big the lae is or why it matters.
Speaker 5: I think at the end of the day, that's why
Speaker 5: you can't get through to some people.
Speaker 1: Well, they're smart people. I mean they have a college education.
Speaker 1: I mean they're they have good credit scores that you know,
Speaker 1: they have their own cars and houses. I mean they're
Speaker 1: not They're not like stupid or anything. I mean there's
Speaker 1: people I love. We're just we're not on the same page.
Speaker 1: And it's so crazy, man, because like I had a
Speaker 1: girlfriend leave me a long time ago, which operated behind
Speaker 1: like my conspiratorial mindset. And later on in life we
Speaker 1: met up and her husband is totally in line with
Speaker 1: me and everything I said, and now she agrees with them,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, Okay, So maybe it's I'm not
Speaker 1: good at being a messenger. Maybe that's what it is.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure.
Speaker 5: I think people resonate with different people, So maybe the
Speaker 5: way I delivered isn't necessarily the way that someone would
Speaker 5: receive it if you delivered it. I think people are
Speaker 5: just receptive to different ways of being, you know, of
Speaker 5: the presentation.
Speaker 3: So I don't think it was just you.
Speaker 5: Maybe it was just the way it was delivered or
Speaker 5: touched on certain things. There's a lot that goes into it.
Speaker 5: I've had certain people listen to one person, it didn't resonate.
Speaker 3: They listen to someone else it made sense.
Speaker 1: So my goal now is is to get this college
Speaker 1: education and say, you know, I have a bachelor's degree,
Speaker 1: I learned all the same propaganda school that you learned.
Speaker 1: Why am I able to see this and you are not?
Speaker 1: And what are people going to be able to say
Speaker 1: at that point?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: One hundred And that's another, you know, piece of leverage
Speaker 5: that you can use to get your argument across. Unfortunately,
Speaker 5: you know, I've I've learned after years and years of
Speaker 5: doing this, there are some people you can lead them
Speaker 5: to water man, but they.
Speaker 3: Refuse to drink it.
Speaker 5: And after years of doing this, I just think that
Speaker 5: there are people who, whether it's subconsciously or not, know
Speaker 5: that if they get into this and realize how big
Speaker 5: the lie it is, it'll throw their little comfortable world
Speaker 5: upside down and they'll be uncomfortable and they just don't
Speaker 5: want that.
Speaker 1: That's true, That's true. It could do that. I mean
Speaker 1: it really bothered me once. Once my eyes were open
Speaker 1: and everything, I I had to go through a period
Speaker 1: of trying to find myself. But you know, flat Earth
Speaker 1: will lead you to a higher power, whatever you want
Speaker 1: to call it, but it's going to lead you to
Speaker 1: the most high however you want to say his name.
Speaker 1: And the message behind that is is to treat people
Speaker 1: how you want to be treated, and you know, peace,
Speaker 1: love and happiness, and flat Earth is going to lead
Speaker 1: people to that. So that's a positive message.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 5: I thought I was awake with nine to eleven and
Speaker 5: Vegas and this and that, right, but it wasn't really
Speaker 5: until I came upon flat Earth, that the veil was
Speaker 5: truly removed from my eyes. And then, like you said
Speaker 5: at the beginning of the podcast, to go full circle
Speaker 5: is when you truly realize that all of these rabbit
Speaker 5: holes are all connected and they are to hide God
Speaker 5: to make you believe everything is of this realm and
Speaker 5: there's nothing afterwards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really does seem like they're trying to hide
Speaker 1: the most high from us, trying to disconnect us from
Speaker 1: the higher power, and everything they do is just for
Speaker 1: for more and more control. We like, you know, what
Speaker 1: have we really won? You know, since since gay people
Speaker 1: were allowed to get married and I don't care, you know,
Speaker 1: I just want people to be happy. However it is,
Speaker 1: it seemed like a win for humanity. Gay people were
Speaker 1: allowed to get married. Okay, they love each other, that's great.
Speaker 1: Outside of that, what have we won? Every every little
Speaker 1: skirmish that has happened, It's like the news gets tighter
Speaker 1: around our neck and the elite get more power and
Speaker 1: stronger while we get weaker.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, one hundred percent. There's nothing really I can
Speaker 5: add to it. We went from a lawsuit to a
Speaker 5: you know, a gay wedding cake and a Colorado bakery
Speaker 5: whatever twenty twelve, whenever that was to now we have
Speaker 5: drag Queen's story hour. So that that's how far we
Speaker 5: fell in the last decade. That's what tolerance gets you,
Speaker 5: I guess.
Speaker 1: You know. So when it comes to corruption, man, it's
Speaker 1: like they use they use. Back in the day, they
Speaker 1: would say, okay, this politician, we caught him cheating on
Speaker 1: his wife, and that's how they would use the corruption.
Speaker 1: That that's how they would blackmail them. Right once people
Speaker 1: got used to cheating on your wife with another woman,
Speaker 1: then they would say, okay, now you know, we caught
Speaker 1: this politician cheating on his wife with a man, and
Speaker 1: they used being gay as blackmail. Right now they're using
Speaker 1: children as blackmail. And I don't even I don't even
Speaker 1: I think. What they do, man, is they get these judges,
Speaker 1: these people that stay in high places and they at
Speaker 1: these parties. They get them to have sex with a
Speaker 1: girl or a woman whatever who looks like whatever age.
Speaker 1: She could be this or that. You know how girls
Speaker 1: look nowadays you don't really know what they are. And
Speaker 1: then so a judge has sex with the girl and
Speaker 1: then she might be twenty one. But the people just say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: look you just have sex with the underage girl. And
Speaker 1: if you don't want to be a sefistender and go
Speaker 1: to prison and get stabbed to death, you're gonna do
Speaker 1: what we say. And their girl might have been twenty one.
Speaker 1: They just told him that she was underage. So, you know,
Speaker 1: this using pedophilia as corruption, how are we going to
Speaker 1: combat that, because that's the end all be all, that's
Speaker 1: how they're corrupting everybody.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, and we've discussed that. It's been that really came
Speaker 5: to light. I guess twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, whenever that document.
Speaker 5: What's the name of the guy? He's in Australia now
Speaker 5: he just got freed from prison. But what's the name
Speaker 5: of his He did a dump?
Speaker 1: Yeah, dang, I forget his name.
Speaker 3: I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: Locked up was a Wiki leaks, Wiki leaks, right, I believe, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Wiki Leaks had that big intel dump.
Speaker 5: It had Hillary Clinton's emails on it, and then it
Speaker 5: had the you know, the emails from Obama talking about
Speaker 5: ordering thirty thousand dollars worth of hot dogs and pizza
Speaker 5: and a lot of that pedesto and then comet ping pong,
Speaker 5: and then of course you had the fall of the
Speaker 5: Cabal document series, And of course I always say what
Speaker 5: we're told by the truthers and what actually happened, and
Speaker 5: what you know, the politicians tell us.
Speaker 3: Somewhere in there is the truth.
Speaker 5: But I tend to agree that they one hundred percent
Speaker 5: blackmail the judges.
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you outside of d C the most corrupt.
Speaker 5: And this is going to shock a lot of people,
Speaker 5: but I can back it up and I can cite
Speaker 5: it is Florida.
Speaker 1: I've heard that Dade Counties bysically.
Speaker 5: It's it's not even Dade County. You have Tampa region.
Speaker 5: Texas is bad too, the Dallas Fort Worth area, and
Speaker 5: these are the places that are quote unquote read but
Speaker 5: not to We only have a minute or two left.
Speaker 5: But in Florida, you'll go to jail if you speak
Speaker 5: bad against the We'll call it the zog, the Zionists.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: You will go to jail for thirty days.
Speaker 1: And so we can't even criticize like we have, like
Speaker 1: the course in what Washington, DC, really is the difference
Speaker 1: between the US is in and a foreign national in
Speaker 1: this country and what these laws are and are not less,
Speaker 1: we didn't even really get to touch on.
Speaker 5: That one hundred percent and listen, uh, just on nine
Speaker 5: eleven alone. You could do a podcast every week for
Speaker 5: five years and not repeat the same thing. It's just
Speaker 5: there's that's how deep the deception is. And hopefully people
Speaker 5: will wake up. And I hope people this has been
Speaker 5: a tremendous episode. You know, maybe we only talked about
Speaker 5: flat Earth for a third of the time, but what
Speaker 5: you hit on flat Earth was was solid and spot on,
Speaker 5: and we touched on a lot of things that we
Speaker 5: haven't touched on the previous one hundred and seventy episodes.
Speaker 5: So Nelson, I want to thank you so much for
Speaker 5: coming on the podcast. I'd like to give you the
Speaker 5: last word before we head out.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, I feel like everything we talked about,
Speaker 1: in one way, shape or form, leads back to flat Earth.
Speaker 1: Flat Earth is going to be the to something you
Speaker 1: cane step outside and experience it for yourself, and everything's
Speaker 1: going to lead back to it. Thank you for the
Speaker 1: opportunity to talk to someone who's on the same level
Speaker 1: and it was fun man. Thanks for letting me rent.
Speaker 5: Yeah for sure, and thanks for your service and good
Speaker 5: luck with college. And i'd like to follow up again
Speaker 5: down the road with you brother.
Speaker 1: All right, sounds good appreciated?
Speaker 5: Thank you, yeah, absolutely, And again thank you to all
Speaker 5: the listeners for your continued support. And we'll be back
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Speaker 5: as always, God bless y'all, keep your head on a swivel,
Speaker 5: and until we meet again, my friends, we will see you.
Speaker 6: I know it's been a struggle. I don't know you.
Speaker 4: Tell all the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you feeling more.
Speaker 6: You smile ain't the same I saw well go from
Speaker 6: you feel.
Speaker 1: Like you've lost your way.
Speaker 7: Don't give up, No, don't give it.
Speaker 4: Never this home. Don't let go on the primis.
Speaker 3: It ain't done yet.
Speaker 7: He's got up, lad, Why a right time?
Speaker 4: Got up?
Speaker 1: May me come? Why right? God may come.
Speaker 6: I can see the straight beside you.
Speaker 7: Child's are putting up fid.
Speaker 2: Oh you're stronger thing. Yeah, you're gonna be all right.
Speaker 2: You're accepting a dead found you beautiful.
Speaker 3: You're shoving bride.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're living. Breathe move.
Speaker 2: You can hold your head of hide.
Speaker 7: Don't give up, No, don't give in, never lose home.
Speaker 7: Don't they gone on the Primies. It ain't Dunion's God,
Speaker 7: I clad wants a way, tell the God of me
Speaker 7: because don't give up, no, don't give in, never lose home,
Speaker 7: don't let call on the province.
Speaker 3: It ain't God of life. It's worth living.
Speaker 7: WA's a plain town.
Speaker 4: The god maybe called.
Speaker 7: Watch a pray down the god.
Speaker 4: Tam Oh yeah, what's a play down the god? Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: got TV call.
Speaker 6: Don't give up, no, don't give in, never, it's all.
Speaker 2: Do they go off?
Speaker 3: The primis in and done?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's got up playing watch and kind of even calls.
Speaker 6: Don't give no, dog giving never, it's hold. Don't they
Speaker 6: go of the primes? It ain't done? Others?
Speaker 1: What live in? What's the god of he.
Speaker 6: All the diet of needs?
Speaker 3: What's the god of your cage? You're listening to the
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