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Speaker 1: Today's episode, it's Tony Hawk back back Pokemon news soon
and uh got just not here.
Speaker 2: He's sick quote unquote totally not watching hockey.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, right right, al covenient the message ESY send
us every other excuse I couldn't be here excep for
that giant hockey game. No he Hey, if you listen
to his content earlier today, he does like he does
not sound great.
Speaker 2: So no, Jeff is not feeling good. He's he's been
feeling bad all week. So we get him the night
off tonight.
Speaker 1: When are that hockey game of his is going We
all look at the score equipment first, Sean, how you doing?
Speaker 2: I just want a fifty seventy TI Mike, I want
real bad. I got the whole new computer built and
just upgrade the graphics card right now. And you know
there's people out there in the world with forty nineties
and fifty eighties. But some of us can't be that lucky.
Speaker 1: Hey, look, I don't have my fifty eighty yet. Him.
I think it's still in purgatory. It has not been
sent out at this point.
Speaker 2: You got pre built, so at least at some point
you will.
Speaker 1: Get one, right right, Yeah, exactly, And like I'm very excited.
Like people like don't get a pre bot's expensive, Like
I get it, But boy, am I just excited that
this thing's just gonna come in a box and I'm
just gonna, you know, basically in it.
Speaker 2: Also, it's also not much more than I'm spending, Like
you spent a premium of like four hundred for someone
to put together for you. That's not insane.
Speaker 1: It's not that bad. It's not that bad. So yeah,
I'm excited for it. I mean, even like even a
vowed on medium settings right now chugs and I don't
know if there's just an optimization problem with that game.
As much I'm enjoying it, it's just a bit of
chucking sometimes, like when I'm in the U, when I'm
in the cities, it gets worse and stuff like that,
and I'm just like, oh god, I real.
Speaker 2: This we need to teach you about resolution scaling and
like what DLSS settings to pick and everything, because I
after we were talking about a game ther night where
you were having issues with it, and I realized that, like, oh,
we didn't tell you about what you need to set
DLSS to this mode in order for you know, your
games to run as specific resolutions. So yeah, we'll we'll
have to talk about that.
Speaker 1: I kind of performance just a little big, and I
think it may be helped a little bit.
Speaker 2: Okay, that'll definitely things. Yeah, but maybe it is just
time to get a new card in there.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's the thing. It's like, eventually this
is just going to fix itself and I will be
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All right, Sean, let's get into this here. The big thing,
at least for me this week is we kind of
like slowly started coming to a realization that a new
Tony Hawk game is actually going to for realsas be
coming out probably soon. This all started with first like this,
you know, a skater Tyshawn Jones matching interview like, oh yeah,
I'm gonna be in a new Tony Hawk. The skater
was already in one plus two that was confusing, and
then like basically this kind of got a lot of
other insiders saying, hey, yeah, this is happening, including one
Jeff Grubb. They just say, yeah, this is happening, and
it is Tony Hawk three plus four. Now, if there's
ever any doubt, Sean today in Call of Duty Black
Cops six, there is just a teaser image that has
been certed in some maps with what's clearly the Cilouev
escape border with the date March fourth, twenty five, and
then like the Tony Hawk account like even like replied
to a tweet of it with like the shifty eyes
this is happening.
Speaker 2: I don't think we need it. I think if we're
going to get remake, Mike, I think it should be
Final Fantasy nine. There would be much more importance. What
everyone knows, you can only have one good thing. You
can't like multiple things or let other people have things.
So yeah, if anyone doesn't know, I'm doing a bit here.
By the way, obviously I love both Tony Hawk and
Final Fantasy, and I think y'all are weird. I really
hope that this is just three and four because I
have little faith in them doing anything else. Right now,
and that seems to be what all signs are pointing towards,
if we're looking at that quote and everything.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Jeff straight up said it's three and four.
He seems pretty sure of that, and you know it's logical.
Three and four are very beloved games. Now. Tony Hawk's Underground,
especially Tony Hawks Underground one is also very beloved, and
I bet people be excited for that remake at some
point also, But hey, let's do this first. But you know,
this is exciting because for there was a time where
it just seemed like this wasn't going to happen, because
this was Vicarious Visions who did one plus two back
when you know, Activision was owned by itself, and then
Kari's Visions, despite the incredible cell success of Tony House
pros cater one plus two just got turned into a
part of Blizzard. Helped him well yeah, yeah, they got
thrown the call duty Minds and then they just became
part of Blizzard to a point where they can't become
not a part of Blizzard anymore. Right now. I posited
on Tuesday when this was still kind of you know, rumory, like, oh,
I guess technically it's not official yet, but come on,
I was like, Okay, maybe twice for Bob is making it?
Did you did you witness Jeff nodding politely when I suggested, oh,
maybe it's twice for Bob. And then the next day
on Game Mess Mornings, I was talking to Lucy and
then Lucy's like, maybe it's twice for Bob. And you
would have thought that somebody had just told Jeff the
meaning of life. He was he was so impressed by
this suggestion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought was such a good idea they had
never heard before.
Speaker 1: And yeah, oh my god, that's a great moment. Yeah.
So hey, so yeah, maybe it's twice for Bob. Maybe
it's somebody else. We'll see, but uh, it's somebody je boy.
I was called you, Jeff, oh Sean, I am very excited.
I like Tiyas pro Skater a lot, but h Thomas
pro Skater three specifically is my favorite one. I absolutely
love it. Really, Yes, it's number one for me so
many good levels. Well because I I ultimately prefer the
run base kind of gameplay, right and uh yeah yeah,
and I just you know that this was the one
that had a lot of the mechanics now they added
those back in the one plus to remake. Sure, but
I also like the levels in this one. A ton
you know, a foundry is great, the suburbs, the cruise
ship Canada. Just a ton of really fun levels in
this one. And of course, like another very very very
good soundtrack.
Speaker 2: Atraz was four, right.
Speaker 1: I think Alcato's four for him excited forest. I know
I like four, but it's been a bit since I
played it, and I'm sure we're also have a great
time with that.
Speaker 2: I have a lot more nostalgia for four, but I
think three is the better game.
Speaker 1: So gosh, this is I'm just very excited now on
March was it a March fourth? This day that is
being teased? I wonder if this is just an announcement.
Do you think this is a shadow drop, like are
we gonna be playing this thing and like, you know,
a couple of weeks that's like two weeks away.
Speaker 2: With the way they're by, it could be it could
be even like a they really promote game pass with it.
I can see them going that route, or yeah, I
don't know, because what do you think the vibes are
with the people right now surrounding Tony Hawk. Do you
think this is gonna be a big deal for a
lot of people, because I feel like this is more
of a niche thing for those of us who are
there back in the day more so.
Speaker 1: They said one plus two was the best selling Tony
Hawk game ever, Right, so when that happened not that
long ago, a bit it go now like what four
years ago was that Remamer document. Yeah, it was still
a bit after the prime of it, and it's still
just sold very very very well. I think that there
are a lot of people who still carry that torch.
There's not really anything that has ever come around to
pick that slack off. There's a lot of games, especially
in these games, that try to be modern Tony Hawks,
and they're usually fun, but never comes quite close. Yeah,
I think it'll do well. I don't think it needs
to be like you know, some some some title thing
that needs to get buried. Now, maybe they could still
get away with a shadow drop. I know I'm usually
sometimes against it, but gosh, even though I admit probably
was like, no, that's a great idea, because I want
it sooner. I just want to play this.
Speaker 2: Right. And well, well, I guess I brought it up
like you know, the the idea of a new one.
Do you think this is just a standalone thing that
they're just putting out on its own, or do you
think it would be a sign of anything more to come.
Speaker 1: I think they'll do Thug for sure.
Speaker 2: Okay, that makes a lot of sense. There's more licensing
issues there, but it would also make a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: For especially with Thug two, which had a lot of
jackass stuff in it that was like right right, and
it might be like specifically like the TV show Jackass,
not just it was inspired by, but also like practicing
a jackass game.
Speaker 2: Not just stupid people doing stupid things.
Speaker 1: No, like right, So, you know, that might be a
little bit of a pain, but they'll probably figure it out.
Or you know, even if they had to just do
Thug one as a remat, that be fine. That's the
one most people prefer anyways. But I about to figure
out how to do Then after that it's like, okay, yeah,
we're not going to you know, remake American Wasteland. Then
we got to either figure something else new for Tony Hawk,
or maybe it takes another hiatus again, I'm not sure,
but I always wanted it to get at least this far.
Shawn again three is my favorite. So it was always
a bummer to me that maybe this wasn't gonna happen,
and it seemed like it wasn't and here it is.
Speaker 2: So it's good news, right, And a lot of people
assumed it be like DLC or something or yeah, so
seeing it at all, I think is gonna make a
lot of people really happy, including all of us here.
Speaker 1: Speaking of making people happy, A Pokemon Presents it's been
confirmed for this month.
Speaker 2: Everyone's surprised, Mike. I it always sorry. It always gets
me when like some of the more mainstream media or
games media is like, oh my god, A Pokemon Presents.
Who could have seen this? Coum. It's like they do
one every year in this month on this day.
Speaker 1: But sorry, anyways, is it always specifically on the twenty
seventh of February.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's Pokemon Day, you know, Pokemon Day. See,
Mike's one of them.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. They they have their own day. That's wild.
Speaker 2: It's just the anniversary at the first game's release. But yeah,
for the last like several years now, there's there's just
always been a I want to say, maybe it's been
like a decade event at this point that yeah, they
just do on Pokemon Day.
Speaker 1: So yeah, this is a week today that this is
going to happen. Now we uh, this is kind of
exciting just because we actually don't know about a lot
with Pokemon right now, Like the one upcoming game is
Poking my Legend Zaw and they have not really said
very much about that, so I think we all would
love to see some clarification for that, may maybe some
ideas of like how Switch one or switch to me?
The thing is, I think they said it is coming
up for Switch one. I think we all expect and
given the state of the last few Pokemon games on Switch,
are desperately hoping for a switch to version at least.
But they're going to, you know, along with a not
take some smaller things like they always do in like
some new anime projects and merch collaborations or some new
mobile game whatever. It seems like something else is going
to be announced, like a Black and White remake maybe,
or maybe another let's go with the Jodo region. What
are what are you kind of hoping for at this thing?
Speaker 2: Some of it's easy to telegraph because of other things
we know about the Pokemon ip right now. Me and
Jeff talked about this on Game US Mornings a while back,
but refresher in case anyone missed that the Pokemon TCG
is doing a dedicated black and white set in the
vein of the one to fifty one set. They did
what two years ago at this point one fifty one
of course, all about the original one fifty one Pokemon.
Why would they do that? Well, because the first one
hundred and fifty one always sells, but outside of that,
they don't really do like specifics sets for specific games
unless it's tied into a new release. So why are
we getting a set that's only black and white and
specifically it's all of the black and white Pokemon. It's
like one fifty one, but it's one fifty seven or
whatever it is. It's just those Pokemon. Why would they
be doing that, especially if it has nothing to do
with the card game right now? But so are thinking
maybe like this summer or something, we get black and
white remakes because that's when the sets coming out in
like July, and then ZA is like the Fall game.
It would also make sense for Nintendo if that were
the case, because then they could have a big sales
push at the end of the year for Za. Yeah,
I think if we don't get Black and White remake
this year, I don't know if it's happening at this point,
Like it seems like the stars are aligning on this one.
Speaker 1: Because it timing makes sense. A brilliant Diamond and Shining
Pearl that Gen four remakes that came out in November
twenty twenty one, so it just seems like it is
not time to Dot five now. You know, probably Diamond
Chine Pearl sold very well. Of course those remakes weren't
loved by the Pokemon community, right.
Speaker 2: No, And it's because I didn't look too much into
this because I want to see too much in the
Taro League from Pokemon. But it sounds like there were
initially other plans for that game that got changed at
the last minute, and so that's why we ended up
with a fairly bare bones, seemingly rushed game, because maybe
it was rushed out the door a little bit. And yeah,
the rumbling is that, like maybe game Freak wasn't happy
with the way that turned out. So I think if
we do get a Black and White remake, it would
be a little more what the fans want than bdsp Are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I loved Black and White. Those are that's the
last generation that I really really really enjoyed a Pokemon
Not that it's been all bad since then. I've still
enjoyed games after that. Blacka Whay is fantastic now. Part
of it is because it was the last of the
pixel games and they got that pixelor looking really good,
and there's the aimation. There's a part of me that's like,
oh man, it's gonna be rough. We go from kind
of the prettiest Pokemon game to you know, something that's
as ugly as the Bookemon games could kind.
Speaker 2: Of be sometimes especially nowadays. Yes, even if you know
there are things that I like about Scarlett and Violet,
no one can deny those games are but ugly, Like
even beyond the way they run like they just look
visually very poor and so hopefully it would be you know,
a minimum sword and shield graphics. But yeah, I think
something more in the vein of what they did with Omega, Ruby, Alpha,
Sapphire and the three DS just scaled up to the switch. Look,
if we're not gonna get HG two D, because that's
what everyone wants, and that's basically what Black and White
already were that would be a next best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, god, it would be the one to
do it for. Right, So there's part just wishes they would,
but it's it's part will. Yeah, it's hard to see
them embracing this though, at least for the overalls, right,
I get it. With the battles, that's gonna just be
those models that they invested in and they use for everything. Sure, yeah,
but you know we're getting ahead ourselves. Maybe this is happening,
maybe it's not. I know a lot of people myself included,
would also be happy to see let's go Jodo, Let's
go Togape or whatever.
Speaker 2: Would be cool. Yeah, let's go Pikachu and Nivy. We're
very good games. I do like those a lot. But yeah,
I think in general, from this presentation, expect a huge
update on Za because we don't know anything about it
and it's set to come out this year. Maybe the
remake show up. Outside of that, keep your expectations in
check because the Pokemon Day Presents is always little tidbits
from every little bit the franchise. So we're gonna see
stuff about TCG Pocket, We're gonna see stuff about Unite
We're gonna see stuff about all different mobile games, maybe
something about the anime. It's gonna be a little bit
of everything. So not especially our audience, maybe not necessarily
what you want to see, but that's exactly what's going
to be in this presentation and guarantee it.
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, that'll be enough to get us excited about
something or another. Okay, so the next order of business
here is some kind of developments on that ex Bungee
director in a creepy text. The female employees have been
released because you know he was uh uh you know,
his let go him Bungee and then he sued them.
This is Christopher Barrett's right, So I'm like, how this
is a wrongful firing now suddeny sort of clap backs like, yeah,
well no, we fired for a very distinct reason, and
it's because this guy is a weird creep like you know.
In some of these messages that are revealed, Bears asked
a female employee, are you still in pjs? And is
it like a button down top and bottom sweatpants Lululemons the.
Speaker 2: On roll what are you wearing? Texts?
Speaker 1: It's very gross, Yeah one of them. I'm not hitting
on you. I hope it doesn't feel like that. I'm married,
but I can be honest. You are the point zero
zero zero zero zero one. It better be tru like forever,
just like you know, just a ton of inappropriate flirting,
lots of that to subordinate and things like that. It's
just really really weird and creepy stuff. His legal team
is saying that these aren't these texts are being misrepresented
without context, right. I can't imagine what the context would
be unless everybody right before it's like, hey, could you
just pretend to be the worst person ever for the
next text message as a funny joke. Otherwise, Yeah, this
is incredibly damning and shame on him doesn't quite cover it.
Holy shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the only possible context that would be okay is consent,
you know, but yeah, if that's not there, it's not okay.
Christ oh my word.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's absolutely disgusting. And yeah, hopefully this guy
doesn't get a single sense of everything he's trying to
get from Sony. I would be shocked, right because this
seems like this seems like a pretty rough state because
it's so delusional. If he knows he sent these texts out,
like what did you think was going to happen?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: If he didn't sue them, probably wouldn't have found out
about this. We always knew that this guy was kind
of a douchebag. We've heard a lot of stories about him.
But damn, holy shit. What Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: The sign of someone who doesn't understand what they've done
is wrong. Is the self own by making it public? Like, dude,
you could just like ben a scumbag and we'll flown
under the radar. But no, now it's been publicized. Now
we all know a shitead you are so oh man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see what happens to that one last
thing here. Jeff did leave me with the message for
all of you when you couldn't be here. So we
got one little juicy grub nugget for you because just
said tell them. I said that some of those God
of War rumors, like the remasters will probably happen closer
to the twentieth anniversary. God of War one did come
out in two thousand and five. Let me let me
do a quick lot, sar. Sure, when did the first
God of War video gee come out? Yeah? Two thousand
and five, specifically March twenty second so about a month.
So gosh, I kind of like you forgot that this
game is turning twenty. That is a big deal. That's
anniversary is just a month away. They are absolutely going
to want to have something to announce there. Maybe too
soon to talk about what the next big triple A
God of War game is, but maybe not. Corey Barllrocks
team's been working on a separate project for a while,
and maybe that project was always going to be whatever
the next God of War is. Anyways, we don't know.
But if not that, yeah, I think maybe a God
of War trilogy remastering is a pretty good possibility. Did
you have any affinity for these original God of War game?
Speaker 2: Sean, not really, just because the style of though I
always thought Krados was a bit of a scumbag, Yeah,
I think especially yeah, especially through a modern lines. I
don't think anyone is super fond of old Kratos. I
know some people are, but made for different reasons. I
was always more until I double my cry and stuff,
even if I you know, in the long run, probably
like the gameplay of Got of War a bit better.
But yeah, I also didn't have a PS two growing up.
I had a GameCube. It was a little bit later
when I was like in high school, I went back
and bought a PS two and got caught up on
some stuff. So yeah, not huge affinity for God of
War specifically, but I do, man, I'm curious to see
where the series goes next. In general. I have not
played Ragnarok. I don't know how it ends. I don't
know if there is more of that formula to be
had or.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with that spoilers, we're probably not doing Norse anymore.
We're done with that if nothing else is okay in
the case.
Speaker 2: So I know they were like teasing Egypt in the
First Water or something like that, So I don't know
if they would do something like that, but yeah, and
I think maybe some people would prefer return to the
action and everything. But yeah, those original God of War games,
I think there's an audience for them. I would not
be surprised to see them. Yeah, bring back a remaster.
I didn't know there was the rumblings of a remaster
of any kind, so this is news to me as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, they could go like really all out,
because you know, it's not just those three games. There
were also three prequel games. Two that were for PSP
and then Ascension on the pl I liked those PSP ones.
I'd never played Ascension, but I bet it's fine. So
I mean, if it was like a six game pack,
that would be pretty cool. And you know, I did
enjoy those games. I also thought, like, you know, especially me,
I'm like this great. This is kind of a mean jerk,
but the games were fun. Gosh, even early on, I
enjoyed the puzzles. People forget how puzzle heavy the first
God of War is, and I think some people didn't
like that aspect of it, and they went a bit
more straight action after that.
Speaker 2: But it was a time because like, yeah, DMC had
the same issue and Ninja Guide and did where they
started puzzlely and then moved into straight action right.
Speaker 1: Right, No exactly, but I got for PS two games,
which is late PS two games. Those things were so impressive.
I mean, I remember got the first gout a ward
just kind of causing ways. It was a very big
deal at the time, and obviously it just kind of
has never lost that momentum. It almost did after Ascension,
and then it just sort of came right back and
it's still very big deal. So yeah, it'll be fun. Uh,
there will be some again. You know me, when I
say I think things of age poorly, I don't ever
mean gay play. I just got to mean tonal stuff
about god of or that. Uh, it's going to maybe
seem a little bit right now. But what are uh
you know, sex mini games A But I'll be happy
to check it out. Yeah, something around that anniversary that
makes a ton of sense. Boy, if everybody in chat
loved it when I talked about grub nuggets, they also
the chance of that. So we'll read those super chats
and other ones and a little bit here, but first
we're all gonna take a little break. All right, we're back, Sean,
would you please read the super chats absolutely?
Speaker 2: First of Simon from Saskatchewan a Samurai Samurai Pizza Cats game.
Good trailer thoughts. I haven't watched this yet, Mike, have.
Speaker 1: You No, I'd never watched Samurai Pizza Cats. There were
so many of these teenage Betit Ninja Turtle inspired shows,
and I loved the turtles but never quite cared about
any The one I was the most aware of was
sewer Sharks. There was something about sewer sharks that was
mildly interesting, but even then I only ever saw a
little bit of that. You know, we'll see is this
is this like another game that's basically just like Shredder's Revenge.
Speaker 2: I have no idea. Again, I just saw this news
in passing to have and seen the trailer. Yop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I maybe take a look. It's like, you know,
some of these there have been a It's funny because,
like you know, these all these franchises that were originally
knockoffs of T M and T. Now we have that
new game was popular, and now we have all these
games that are kind of copying that whole thing too.
H man. I'm looking, yeah, I'm looking at the trailer
right now. Yeah, it looks more like I don't know
what to call it. It's definitely not a Shodow's Revenge knockoff.
It looks like it looks.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I guess you could describe as that probably
mixed with be them up. It looks like me one
of the cats is yeah, one of the cats is
a sword, one has a gun, okay, or maybe may
they just alternate between them. The art style looks like
the show, which is kind of cool. So it looks
cuphead ish. I would say, yeah, I was about.
Speaker 1: To say, cup it. Okay, just look at the trow.
This is more interesting that was expecting. So huh yeah.
Speaker 2: It's kind of ney. Yeah. And then oh, okay, I
just saw the girl cat like do a super move.
It cuts to basically just like looking like something from
the show Goes four x three and everything. Oh that's
kind of cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all it's hand drawn animation. Okay, huh, I'm
I'm suddenly intrigued. Thanks for the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nice, yeah, absolutely. Next up another one from Simon.
My big question still my big question last week still stands,
where's Jeff's blightening game? Why are they so bad at
picking for you? It's not your fault. You forget to
say they should know better. Alzheimer's stream good work.
Speaker 1: Right, Look, the game's too long, Okay, so maybe we
mess up there, but Jeff's not helping himself at all,
not picking up health upgrades, for getting to save a
deleting all of his progress. Like, look, look, what can
we do. We tried, everyone said the game was three
hours long. We're like, perfect, it's not our fault that
everyone else live. What can we do?
Speaker 2: You know? Mike I'll be brave enough to say it.
And Jeff Rubb might be bad video games.
Speaker 1: He the whole off, he won the whole off. He's
pretty good a lot of video games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had left click real hard or wherever you
guys get on the stream.
Speaker 1: Man, I should defend Jeff, but I'm mad at him
for the uh, for the place for a Bob thing,
and for all the Final Fantasy hatreds. So yeah, I'll
just agree with you. Sure he's bad at everything.
Speaker 2: That's right. That's exactly what I said. Next up another
one from Simon, Thank you. Uh. Dan's Ewok take is
too far. Hobbits being like Ewoks only shows. Lord of
Liller Rings is great because Ewoks fucking rule. Maybe Backlar
has converted him. We all know he hates Ewoks because
they helped take down the Empire.
Speaker 1: It's like e walks too. I always thought the.
Speaker 2: I stepped out while y'all were talking about this on
what the BombCast? What what was this? I missed this
from so Dan.
Speaker 1: Was trying to be like, all right, Mike, I I
know why lorda the Rings is bad. I'll explain to you.
Lord of the Rings is like if Star Wars. Uh
like starred the e Walks and I was like, Dad,
the only thing those two really haven't common is that
they're short. Yeah, but you know, you know, if what
Dan's real point is, and he's a CHADOWI correctly is
he doesn't he doesn't care about normal people, right, He
only wants super extraordinary people to be the stars of
his media, which you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, because he likes eighties action movies. So that's
why that's it's.
Speaker 1: Yes, the lot of it is inspired by uh, Rocky
and Terminator.
Speaker 2: He wants a million John McLean's I get it.
Speaker 1: Look I like that stuff too. I also love when
ordinary people are thrust into extraordinary circumstances and there's a
more maybe sincere and stunning kind of heroism that is
then on display, is how I would put it. So, yeah,
it is funny becase, yeah, Rocky is also a normal person.
Now they turned Rocky into a superhero by Diehard, by
die Hard, for by Rocky for for sure.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, that's the hero's journey in full effect right there.
He eventually becomes a nonstoppable force.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, I'll got tired of defending good media from
these guys. If they don't want Lord of the Rings.
They don't want Final Fantasy. That's their problem. They're they're
missing out, all right. So wait, we team says about
has air dashes. Is this true? Like by default.
Speaker 2: Knows that Uh, Lord of the Rings fucking sucks. And
next up another one from sign from Saskatchewan. Uh, Final
Fantasy is better than Tony Hawk's pro Skater but not
by that much. No, Final Fantasy it's worth worse than
Tony Hawk's pro Skater five. If if Dan or Jeff disagree,
they can play Tony Hawk's pro Skater five for their
next play club game.
Speaker 1: Oh. I've thought about maybe giving Jeff Tona's pro Skater
five before, but that was like an all online game.
I think there are ways to play it, but yeah,
that was one of the problems with it. It was
an online required game. That's one of the reason why
it was really stupid. H I don't know how you
play it today. There's something to do with what found
fantasy game is worse than Tony Hawk's pro Skater five.
Speaker 2: Maybe ones I won't name because maybe they will have
relevance in the future.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, interesting.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's move on to one from a lot of
super tests. By the way, thank you everybody one From
Big Fresh thirty seven. Dan's Lord of the Rings problem
is a lack of superpowers, so he must love movies
about superheroes, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he only sees MCU movies.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a narrow and short sighted of him,
but yeah, he only cares. He talks about the Easter
eggs constantly. That's what he's really craving is he loves
those eggs.
Speaker 2: Fan theory movie or videos on YouTube. He loves watching
the one those constantly. He loves it when people explain
movies to him.
Speaker 1: Oh God, so sicks post sequences. He says, it's not
really a movie if there's not a post credit sequence.
Speaker 2: That's right, you have on the line collar. Hello.
Speaker 4: I am on a lot of drugs right now, and
I am not supposed to be talking much. And they
told me not to get into fights on podcasts. I
had surgery today, but I can't. I can't sanction this buffoonery.
Speaker 1: Okay, Tommy, all right.
Speaker 4: I like a good hero's journey. I'm always talking about
hero's journeys. The problem is with ewoks.
Speaker 2: I like ewoks.
Speaker 4: I defend ewoks. I'm happy when the Ewoks are on screen,
and I've never never understood the hatred for Ewoks, but
they're not the whole point of the trilogy, like the
Hobbits are the main characters. Like the Hobbits had his
time time as Ewoks, and maybe like the Viga Mortensen guy,
I had Luke Skywalker time and it was focused on him.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'd like it. Okay, And have you considered though,
that Bilbo Baggings is just loose? Skywalker didn't Bilbo the
old one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like in the Hopit well, Frodo Baggins.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't like this nerd ship. I do like
this nerd shit either. Dan, I'm just trying to like
be the voice of reason here.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, wait, Sean's cool, Okay, cool, Okay, I like that. Yeah,
so Mike, I'm not anti u Walk. I want to
make that clear.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know what. That's you know what. That was
unfair of me to assume, and I apologize it and
I hope you feel better.
Speaker 4: Dan, thank you. I'm playing the thing remastered in bed.
Thank you for you.
Speaker 1: Go God, You're a fiend, all right, bye bye bye.
All these Blake Club people just being being out of
it I'm the only healthy one here.
Speaker 2: Somehow Blake Club is killing everybody. That's the connecting thread.
Hell yeah, okay, next up one from Big First thirty seven.
Uh been about two point five years as chew two
Rocket Universe was pulled from Apple Arcade with no ports elsewhere,
the world is cruel. I want you know about to
two Rocket Universe, Mike.
Speaker 1: Well, I did play because it was one of the
first Apple Arcade games, so it was there on day
one back when I actually was checking all that stuff out.
It was it was good. And also I think Aaron
Hanson from Game Grubs was like a voice in it,
so there was that Yeah, that's wild they have, Like
why not just make a switch version of that game?
It was it seemed like a pretty good version at
Chu Chu Rocket. Of course that was a mobile game
in how you know all that all those trappings and
some of that monetization and whatnot. But some way you
could just turn that into a ten dollars product you
could sell on Twitch.
Speaker 2: And that is the switch right, I mean said Twitch Twitch?
Excuse me, you might have said Twitch. I don't. I
don't know. I'm allow of drugs right now too. My
big problem with Apple Arcade is when off is locked
to it, and I'm happy that more stuff is getting
off of their like fantas getting a neo dimension. Sure,
you know, it's a fifty dollars game, I think it
launched at But just the fact that it's getting a
part at all to regular systems, it's a good thing.
Things being exclusive to a subscription is bad. That's my
game pass rules because like game Pass, you still have
the option to buy the game. It's just an alternative
way to play it. Apple Arcade, I don't like that,
or like Google play Pass or what are they call
there's I don't like stuff being exclusive to that. Same
with like Sonic dream Team. There's like a Sonic Colors
like that is just only on Apple devices and that
kind of that kind of sucks. I play I played
down the Train? What when I went to was it?
When I went to EVO? I played down the Train
down to Chicago and have a pretty good time. But
I was also thinking, man, which I was playing this
on my steam deck or something right? Right, So hopefully
they get more of stuff out of those services and
just regular releases, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, you know, says bringing back all these franchises anyways,
why not shoot you rocket? I mean the very least,
just use what you have there to make a new
Shoots you rocket, Choot you rocket is fun Now I'm
really a Sega swirl freak. That's what I would really
like to come back. So hit me up with that
or you know what I'll say, columns, give me some
columns again.
Speaker 2: Columns too. Hasn't been enough platforms.
Speaker 1: Right, I need more columns too. You got it, you
get it, you get.
Speaker 2: It, I get I get it. Okay, next up here,
Mickey Harden has been a Lincoln member for zero months
before this brand new one. So thank you for being
to YouTube member.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Uh, Next step, Ali Miracle. My vacuum just broke. Can
you two nerds recommend me one? Also? Did you try
the Fatal Fury Beta yet? Love Love Penis Man.
Speaker 1: I bought one vacuum when I first got my own place,
and it was like the one that was on clearance
at Sears, because I think it was when Sears were
closing forever first. I got one at good price then,
and I cannot tell you the name or the brand
of it. I don't have recommendations. It might even be
time to get a new one. I don't know, do
you have any hot vacuum res sean?
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find on Amazon. The one that I bought.
I just bought like a thirty dollars stick vacuum like
five years ago, and it's still working. Because I have
a pretty small apartment. I don't you know what I'll
look at during the break or something for you Ali,
and may let's know later. But yeah, I just you know,
just just what the cheap on ones are good enough nowadays,
I think that doesn't really matter. So yeah, Hoover.
Speaker 1: Still in the game. Hoover still around?
Speaker 2: Is Hoover still a going concern? I have no idea.
Speaker 1: What's Hoover up to these days? All right?
Speaker 2: Oh well they are dirt devils. They still got those around?
Speaker 1: Oh I hope. So that was a good name for
a vacuum.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hell yes, it's not an infomercial for the Duck.
The other day. I think the Duck has taken over dirt. Yeah,
it's cuter, but.
Speaker 1: Much as were wild. I was at a bar the
other weekend and they like it was. It was only
ten it was already just an infomercial because I think
real TV has just gotten that sad and it was
just for it. It's still the same ship it was
for collectible coins, right, like US silver dollars. It's just
that same ship.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, selling.
Speaker 1: Them to poor old people who don't.
Speaker 2: Diversify your portfolio with real gold, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, I've followed it. Ali, it's the the Eureka
Blaze Stick vacuum. It's thirty bucks on Amazon. I like
that one. But yeah, Fatal Fury, have you had a
chance to try it out yet, Mike No.
Speaker 1: I mean I've been installing it, so I definitely want
to try it. It's not very soon. Sometimes I've been
watching videos. I watched Justin Wong's I'm in the middle
of a Maximilian Dudes video on it. I am excited.
How about you?
Speaker 2: That's mad that we're talking about vacuums on the show.
Speaker 1: Because Jeff Mober has random non sequinners about like the
domestic shit.
Speaker 2: People paid us money to talk about these vacuums. Jeff,
I I'll talk about the end of the show because
I have put a little bit of time into it
and I U, yeah, I want to talk about what
I think about it, So we'll get to that at
the end O two next is from al Grugg. Surprise,
Jeff said every Final Fantasy game is better than any
mud Runner game, and Dan said pro Skater five is
better than every Metal gear. That was surprising when they
did that, totally real thing.
Speaker 1: It is wild, right that they just say these things.
And you know, I guess who am I to disagree?
Final Fantasy is pretty good?
Speaker 2: Yeah? You think it's the drugs? Are they all just
like how the right? Now?
Speaker 1: These are? These are their very lucid thoughts at all times.
Speaker 2: Oh, this is the real shit.
Speaker 1: Yes, is what they believe in their hearts.
Speaker 2: Okay, that checks out. That checks out From Adam Steen.
Jeff isn't actually sick. You just need excuse to watch
the Forward Nations Final without distractions of some door key podcast.
Speaker 1: I was totally prepared for, Like I was even gonna
give him. Look, you can keep an eye on this game.
I know this one's important for you, but I allow
you right, right, So, I don't think he actually didn't
come because of the game. But I'm just saying the
game wasn't on. He might have tried to do it.
He might have tried to do this show anyways, That's
all I'm saying, and it's fine that he does it. Yeah.
Oh gosh, Chris Pratt bring up something that we haven't
really talked about yet. What's a ooh?
Speaker 2: Chris Pratt says, This k box AI stuff sounds incredible.
Imagine using AI for infinite games where you're stomping hoopahs,
so many possibilities. No more pesky arcade.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Chris Pratt. So we didn't talk about Microsoft's
Muse AI, which is just their new machine learning thing.
It's interesting how they present this, right, They're like, oh,
it's for the ideation phase, right, so people can kind
of quickly make prototypes ideas, and I think that's I'm
trying to sell it to developers. And then they're like,
and it's gonna be great for great game preservation and
making ports of old games, which I think is something
they only pulled out of their ass to try to
keep old people like me from being upset at it,
as we so often are with AI. And I'm not
falling for it.
Speaker 2: Use the word we like to like offset the words
that we don't like, Like we're five year olds, you.
Speaker 1: Know, right exactly, Like look say I stuff, Uh, it's
all common for us. I suppose I still don't really
get it, especially I do that you need to know,
I mean, yeah, I get one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. The problem here is twofold. First of all,
generative AI, like I'm just putting my foot down. It's theft.
Is theft straight up. It just takes other people's art
and tries to mimic that art. It's an amalgamation of
stuff that has been made before and tries to spit
out something new, but does have the soul of a human,
so can't actually produce, say anything that would call art.
Before you say, well it's old, just public stuff. They
can just trade it like our human would. Artists put
their stuff out there, knowing that humans will be inspired
by it. It's not. They never intend for a machine
to be able to internalize that and try to spit
out an imitation. So that's why so many artists are
against generative AI in any form, because now these models
are ethically trained. Now beyond that, you know, we did
not talk about the Marvel rival stuff because you guys
talked about nintend dogs. I miss that, I think. But
the short version of that is it's pretty clear that
executives do not care about people. They do not care
about results even they care about bottom lines. And cutting
people so that AI can do the job instead is
a very real thing that's happening. And I hate that
I see people defending in stuff like in Mallion, certain
comments sections on certain morning shows. That's not okay, that's unacceptable.
Pay a human being to do this stuff and quit
buying you know, your fifth Mercedes that year or whatever
you like. It's all kinds of messed up from top
to bottom, and all this AI stuff is bad. Now.
The other half of the AI thing, the whole game
preservation stuff. Uh, it's wild that like they would even
use that argument, because what is the AI going to do?
Is it going to create an approximation of the game
logic simply by looking at a gameplay.
Speaker 1: Because I mean, there's so many intricacies, and like you know,
when people work very very hard at this, sometimes these
remasters don't quite feel right anyways. Like the one big
example you had of AI and I know is a
little bit to go was the work that it did
on the Grand Theft Auto Trilogy remasters, and those fucking sucks.
They looked terrible. Yeah, gosh, I think Jeff said it
on Gatis mornings today, right, but you know their positioning,
so it is like this is going to have people
come up with ideas for games. It's like that's the
one thing that's easy. His ideas isn't a problem, right,
everybody has ten ideas for a video game. That's not
the hard part. What the hell are you right?
Speaker 2: Yeah. One one of our friends in the industry was
posting bomb Blue Sky of like, it is absolutely wild
to think that we would ever want to give tools
to people to say, oh, you want to make a game,
and you have all the ideas to make a game.
You want to make so many games, but you don't
actually want the soul of a game, which is the
people behind it. You just want to like a game
to exist magically. Like what it makes no logic, makes
no logical sense? Is oh god, sorry Chris?
Speaker 1: Probably no, you're excited, but we a bad thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel bad for Chris practice.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: Pokemon fan, do you do you think he realized that
he name dropped a Pokemon there with Hoopa. That's a
real Pokemon.
Speaker 1: That is a Pokemon.
Speaker 2: A Pokemon what does it look like? It's this little
like gremlin dude he has He's based on like a
genie in a bottle. So he has he's giant portals
that summon legendary.
Speaker 5: Pokemon just the bottom of the bar u.
Speaker 2: Yeah sometimes, okay, anyways, moving on here, Moving on, mikey O'Leary,
can we please never say grub nugget ever again? Well
you got one more on of me. But I mean
he paid us.
Speaker 1: So okay, we'll never mention grub nuggets again. What's the
next super chat from Dorachi?
Speaker 2: I want more grub nuggets?
Speaker 1: All right, you're gonna get all the grub nuggets you
all want ever.
Speaker 5: We we we you see hungh we money just tell
me what?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we'll do anything for money, man connall, would
can we please add grub nugget to the soundboard? You
got it. We'll work right on that. It takes very
little for me add something to the soundboard. And then
I think, last one for now, calif Fornaya.
Speaker 1: I got Californi.
Speaker 2: I a Californi. I was thinking about that. But Christ,
when did Mike gets so young and cool and Jeff
so Italian?
Speaker 1: I am Jeff Grubbin. I love Pausta more than any
other food.
Speaker 2: Well, Hi, I'm Mike Manatti and pog Slammer City Jamma Jama.
Speaker 1: That's me fantastic. All right, thank you so much, Sean earyone.
If you want to send in more superchants, we will
read them before the end of the show. Thank you
all so much for the support. Next, we actually have
people in community saying, hey, you guys do mailbags for
an intent dogs, but it's been a while since there
was one a game as the sides, so let's do that.
We're gonna do one of those right after this break.
All right, we're back. We've got a mail bag from
our podcast producers, so let's get to it. Steen Ar says,
you've been tasked with adding two power ups to the
next Sonic game. What two power ups would you add?
Speaker 2: Sonic Racing Game criticle so cross.
Speaker 1: Sorry, excuse me, racing game, my bet, Yes, you know me.
I want to add nonsense Onic specific power ups. I
want to add some sh from other Sega games in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the dog from Shadow Dancer and.
Speaker 1: Got it on hell yeah, God, Shadow Dancer is so
freaking good. Oh Shadow Dancer, Yeah, that's a good one. Like, yeah,
I'm trying to think once that's not just summon a
character from a thing, right, Like like Gunstar Heroes, maybe
you get one of those random weapons and if you
maybe if you get a second one, they can bine
like in that game. But that sounds complicated. That's kind
of a lot going on there. How about just a
Burning Rangers power up that just starts playing music from
Burning Rangers.
Speaker 2: I would like, Oh, perfect, Yeah, that's always a power
up that gets me exciting.
Speaker 1: Jamie h one two two Force is currently playing through
a comedy for the first time, and well, I knew
it was a beloved game. My expectations were exceeded. Are
there any fan favorites cult classics that you played in
last couple of years that had you feeling the same?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think I talked about a bit like you know,
I always heard good things about SpongeBob SquarePants Battle for
Bikini Bottom and how it's a better game than you'd expect,
And I played through it still even though I was
expecting that. My main takeaway was who I was a
lot better than I was expecting. Right, that's just a
really good time.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to I know there must have been one
that I played recently, but oh, I remember Parasiteve I
played for the first time on Christmas.
Speaker 1: Oh, I've been wanting to play Parasite pretty badly. I
have a copy I've got and you know, like that
that gets brought up all the time as a game
that holds up incredibly well, even from the sickos. You
always say things don't hold up people like Parasite, but
a lot still it's so interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the games that made me want
to get a retro tank for original hardware is because
I played it in retro arc with a CRT shader,
very advanced one, and it looked fantastic. It wasn't quite
there because I couldn't get the shader quite the way
I wanted it. But if I get like, you know,
the retro Tank's extremely accurate CRT shader or you know,
once we get our like PS one Mystery Things, I
could hook you up to CRT back there and get
the real deal. But yeah, Parasite Eve is like interesting
how it's resident evil ish mixed with like a turn
based RPG, sort of like our things in real time.
But the way it all works out is it's a
very interesting game, and I think it's jank. It's a
little it's a little awkward, but in a very interesting way.
I liked playing through that.
Speaker 1: I wonder if you're going to play two, because that
that one is more just straight up survival horror, right,
and I understand it's so good, but lacks a little
bit of maybe that uniqueness from the first one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll check out at some point. May hey make
Christmas is here?
Speaker 1: Uface says you all ever think about doing a separate
game mess panel at a gaming convention? I know, I
drave Ford. It would be fun. It's just, you know what,
we usually are so busy with just the U Giant
Palm responsibilities at like the pass So if we went
to it, so we'd have to go to a different convention,
which maybe like a MAGFest or something. I don't know,
but it's always hard for Jeff to get away already
just for kind of the things it really needs to
it'd be hard to maybe try to add more on
asplate there, Like there's that Cleveland Gaming Classic. I don't
even know. They kind of do pantles, but I don't
know how many people want to come up just to
Cleveland for something like that. I would love to, but yeah,
it's just timing away. I'm not even gonna be at
Paxis this year, so that's already one of the main right.
Speaker 2: The time.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be in Disney World, so screw you
while you're on your own to be there. Yeah, man.
Next one is from Dugan. Do you ever consider how
you want to sequence your games? I do this for
the platforms I have. For example, I want to play
a value if they're being ending on Game Pass, my
Meo Mini, I want to be Donkey Kung before playing
Crown Trigger and my Broken Person. How many iterations are
too many?
Speaker 5: I hear you.
Speaker 1: I mean in general, I usually like to try to
finish my games before I beat them. Sometimes I will
just sort of skip games because I kind of like
I'm not austrol interested i am, or the reviews aren't
that good, like I get did that with Mario Luigi
Brothership right because Dragon I knew that I really wanted
to play Dragon Quest three HG two D and those
games were coming out the same time, and I was
just like, well, instead of trying to play both of
these and kind of a game that you divided, I
think I'm good to Maria Luigi, I'm just going to
play Dragon Quest.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The platform thing lost me for a second, but
now that I get what they're saying, Yeah, I definitely.
I actually keep a literal list I have on my
phone right now. I'm looking at it of the order
in which I want to play my people. Remember, I
don't keep a backlog like a strict one anymore. It's
just a list of games I'm interested in playing. I
don't hold myself to a backlog aame where I'm just like, hey,
what am I in the mood for it? And I
just like jotted down so I don't forget. But yeah,
like after beating Shadow Generations, I fired up Song Frontiers
for a first time. I would like to get through that,
but you know, got a little burned out on it
because there is kind of a lot of same stuffs.
I moved on to East ten and like East ten
is really doing it for me, and so like I
have these are games down my like a media list
of six or so, and yeah, I want to beat
both those before I get to the R one C. Yeah,
I definitely like to prioritize which games I'm playing.
Speaker 1: I always be Clothing says. Since Jeff is out watching hockey, Mike,
tell me how your ridge racer. I mean Mega Man
Legends investigation is.
Speaker 2: Going, Mike, how's that going for me?
Speaker 1: Huh, Well, I don't know. If you notice, goog has
kind of a pull up, like, what's what are people
dream games sad on there? And Megma Legends one and
two are options. I'm not sure how well they're doing.
I haven't checked in. I'm a little confused with that
because is Geogi really able just to put games that
never had PC ports on its store?
Speaker 2: Well? What GG does, if you know, actually is that
they themselves do some of the delver to get old
versions of games running on new systems, And I think
they've dabbled a little bit with like getting games that
weren't traditionally didn't traditionally have PC versions on PC. Now.
I don't know how much of that they've done themselves.
I think more it's like partnerships with places like Nightdive
and stuff like that. But actually, Mega Man Legends did
have a PC version back in the day. Two did not,
but I think two did not.
Speaker 1: One did have a PC version, Okay, that's interesting.
Speaker 2: I think it may have actually not been released in
the US. I think it may have been like Asian English.
One of those things like Resident Evil back in the
day and stuff. But yeah they did.
Speaker 5: It's like Bisha Lowell's they had only like Oceania like
they are any English because they released on like Australian
that kind of stuff maybe.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, oh yeah, beef brings up in Chad. Yeah,
the recent Melgar solid ports and the resident Eevil stuff
that was like gog first because they like worked with
the polisher or make.
Speaker 1: That happen, okay neat. Yeah, So I think there's some
other things on there, like maybe even parisit or whatnot.
So yeah, I'm glad they're doing that. I still bet
that Capcom will just do their own Mega Man Legends
collection perhaps at some point here. And I mean if
that's the case, they might even like tell Gog no
even if they you know, a pole wins in their ass, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like they don't have authority to make these decisions.
It's just a matter of what people want, and they're
up balling people see where the interest lies.
Speaker 1: Baileef Moon says, I've been loving the fungal world of
a Vowed. In six months, Xbox will release Indiana Avowed
stuff a minute and doom. I think the sort of
output would will slowly become more normal. Yeah, it does
feel like things have kind of picked up a little
bit finally for them. Perhaps a little too late in
terms of at least the Xbox Series X, but maybe
you know, soon enough to keep Xbox chugging along. I've
been pretty happy anyways. I liked in the Age of
a Lot, I'm liking a Vout a lot. I'm interested
in soulf of Midnight. I bet Doom is going to
be great. So part of me is like, I'm sure
we're still going to have some quiet times ahead, right, Like, yeah,
PlayStation has been sort of suffering for a little bit
right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think maybe this is just how they do things,
where they picked the quiet times of the year and
they just maybe don't have anything there, and then during
the busier times of the year where people want to
do a lot of gaming is where they you know,
try to target a variety of releases. So maybe it
is this like Spring is where they put out some tiles,
and then falls where they put out some tiles, and
just yeah, in between, there's not much rather than the
you know, the what one first party game of quarter
that they tried to commit to or whatever. Like plan On.
So yeah, I think I think we're finally starting to
see the fruits of the Xboxible. Eyeing up all those studios.
We're finally starting to see those games come out, and
so that's you know, the release games. We're gonna finally
beginning to is seeing all those finally come out. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: Fire Hair says Django Fett was one of the guest
characters in Tonio's pro Skater four. Who would be a
good replacement has to be a character of a jet
pack for their special ps. Thanks for all the joy
you guys bring. God, I want to say rockets here,
but that's just another Disney character. I bet that a
lot of those get replaced by Xbox Studios characters, right.
Speaker 2: They could, Yeah, I suppose, right, put a Spartan in
there or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's somemost there had to be a Spartan that
had a jet pack, right, and one of them as
a thing at Towers.
Speaker 2: They would just put Sparkster in there.
Speaker 1: Oh God, that'd be amazing. However that in a way
that's happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chat saying the dude from Dark Void, the dude
from Dark four. Two people that said that exact phrase
in unh.
Speaker 1: Right, look that we got twins in the chat there,
But no, I bet, I bet it is going to
be like yeah master Chief, maybe like Dom or something
from Gears of War. It'll be yeah, we're gonna see
some Xbox Game Studio's characters showing up.
Speaker 2: But there.
Speaker 1: It's too bad that they got rid of the the
Gosh that music game that everybody liked and they sold
and High five Rush sorry brain part the High Fight
Rush guy. They keep himself shaded. That would have looked
cool in a Tony Hawk game.
Speaker 2: Right, Oh yeah, yeah, Chi should definitely be in a
Tony Hawk game.
Speaker 1: Chai everyone was themed.
Speaker 2: I forgot more importantly pepper Man KORVSK But you know, all.
Speaker 1: Right, absurd Ziggy says, get well soon, Jeff. Do you
guys see a VOW style RPGs being the future for
Western RPGs? Got all reviews, but dead time is radically
shorter than say School six or Starfield. Our big company
is going to continue you in those larger games if
it turns continued diminishing some napkin math. Starfield launch November six,
twenty twenty three, fifteen million engage as of November twenty
twenty four, but eight years dev time about February eighteenth
launch one point five million gage, two point five years
of dev time. I mean just from your math there
that almost basically Starfield was still worth the extra development time.
Maybe it's hard to say, like this stuff's like great,
but you know, I bet I Valve's going to end
up doing just fine. Probably. I think it's going to
be maybe some giant smash it. I think it's going
to have very long legs and be remembered very fondly.
You know, it does the big smash shit for Western RPGs.
Right now? Is Keendom Come Deliverance too, which is more
of a similar Western style rpg That is that giant
scale again, Now that didn't take them eight years to make, right,
probably more like probably more like four three. I forget
when that first one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, have real dev time, Yeah, right, I mean I don't.
Speaker 1: Think there's any one thing for Western arbertinze. Hey, we're
still going to see a wave of Bouldersgate three legs
here soon that went into development like a year ago
when that game was a giant hit, Right, That's what
we're gonna end up seeing at a certain point. Here.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also, by the way, eighty one, I metacriic
is like very very good. I think we need more
games that don't try to I'm trying to they have
hot phrases because people will get mad when we say,
like when they try to be incredible games or anything
like that, but when they're trying to do like the
Prestige TV thing where it's like like Oscar Baty where
they go for high review scores because of how incredible
and immaculately written the story is sometimes sorry forreak video
game to just be a cool video game. And hey,
if some people, you know, think it's more in the
range of like a seven or eight, I think that's
more sustainable than like putting all of the all of
the horsepower we have from these studios into you know,
unsustainable things.
Speaker 1: I suppose you're right, but also about better than eighty one.
Um all sure, certain says PS. Ask Mike if he
likes Mickey and Mini the Great Circus Mystery, if there's
a game like it to play? Yeah, I like that game.
That's some basically another Mickey's Magical Quest. Like they made
a bunch of those style of Mickey Mouse games. If
you like those one those ones, and you've already played
the other Mickey Magical quests. Check out the Mickey Castle
of Illusion and Land of Illusion for the Sega Master System.
There's a little bit of a vibe there in those games.
Those are pretty good. Big Fresh thirty seven says, sometimes
I think discussion around live service games and hardcore gaming
circles is disingenuous. A lot of form posters and podcasters
say that they're a bad business move destined to fail,
but that feels more like what some gamers want to
be true rather than what is true. And twenty twenty
four we saw the massive success of Power World, Helldivers,
two Zen Rivals, path Backs out to an Infinity Nikki
in one year. It's not exactly a situation where no
one knew can enter the space. On the flip side,
Vailguard's Outlaws of Prince of Persian did not sell what
they needed to. So is that really such a better
hit rate? I don't see it. God, I think there's
some truth to this. Maybe in some fairness here, I
think that it's a maybe, I don't want to say
cherry picking. That's not fair at all. You know, maybe
the bigger plant is like Sony is having troubles doing
stuff or Ubi Soft now grant it's again. The thing
was Tony's like, yeah, they got Hell Divers too, right,
and that's one of them, and they made it in
they got one of these be hit and it still
didn't matter. Right. It is the issue because these things
are still so expensive to make and you have to
have such a shock in first. But you know, like
these games, Power World that was an interesting hit. Yeah,
Hell Divers to an interesting HiT's end lists. One zero
that was just another mojoyo verse. So it's not shocking,
and it's not it's not as big as the other
rights in a kind of not. I don't know, you
can be correct. Maybe I'm not speaking on my ass here.
Speaker 2: It hit bigger than Star Rail, but not as big
as a Genchin, which is still very very good. And yeah,
as you know, I'll chime in here then I'll pick
it up for you. I'm as someone who does play
these games and likes quite a few of them. Yeah,
I think there is Try not to use the B word,
but there is amongst some you know, more old school gamers,
a concern with these games and how how they are
presented to the player, because there's definitely some predatory practices
in them a lot of the time, and that's a
huge turnoff for people. And I get it. I say
all the time, it's really easy to ignore a lot
of that stuff, and I just do that in all
these free to play games, I just because you know,
I have the ability to just block that stuff out.
I know for some people there's like, well, just the
fact that's in the game annoys me. I don't want
to have to like skip menus that have it on
to I. Like you said yourself with I think it
was Starrail just like the idea that you would have
to like think about the gotcha stuff and was otherwise
like a traditional turn based RPG turn off. Yeah, exactly,
And I get that that's fair, absolutely, But yeah, I
think the point you were getting out of, just in
general with service games, the fact that so many of
them are god just a big risk for everyone involved,
and that like studios, you know, if it's not immediately
a hit, you get shut down. Your game gets shut down,
People from one.
Speaker 1: Of your studios get shut down anyways.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the team gets laid off. Even if you
have one of the biggest games in the world. It's
very risky in general, compared to a traditional release, where
at least you know you can recuperate costs on that.
It can have a long tail because you can still
sell the game later on, you can still sell physical
copies to collectors and everything like that. You know something
can be done with the game later on. So I think,
you know, there's definitely maris to both sides of the argument,
and I see what you're trying to say here, but yeah,
it's just I think that concern about the how precarious
a life service game can be.
Speaker 1: I got a text for Dan record and he's screaming
at me to read it. A Mike forgot to tell
you that the lady that knocked me out before my
surgery at donald and Dixie Duck on her hair band,
Dan thing, their arms were all stretchy and trippy. So
I'm not sure if there's a classic Duck cartoon where
they do drugs. Well, thank you, Dan, no notes on that.
I'm glad that you now understand the popularity of Dixie Duck.
Do you think the hands were really trippy or you
think that was you know, the drugs that they had
him on already that made him.
Speaker 2: Look, yeah, I wonder how lucid Dan was when he
saw these articles A cloak.
Speaker 1: Chris two casas. Jeff is sick and he can't hurt
us time to talk about JRPGs now that he can't
share any Tony Hawk comparisons. So I recently finished Metaphor Fantazzi.
Oh man, that was a good as game. I would
even go as far as to say that this might
be a new JRPG classic. Takes some of the best
parts of Persona and shim mcgammie tense they crystally put
in parentheses. Tsis pronounced like sense Mike, love you, and
add what is possibly the most satisfying job system in
any JRPG. To perfect the formula, I just never got
tired of the game. Yeah yeah, oh, I sing a
lot of praises of the game, so I'll give you
one criticism. Actually, now, I do like the job system
a lot. I don't know if I love the way
that at the end of the game you get funneled
into like your one kind of master job and there's
you know, there's only one of that for each of
the characters. So like at the end of the game,
you know you do just kind of want to do that,
so it kind of the scope of it gets a
little small and a little straightforward at that point.
Speaker 2: I never changed jobs for anybody because every character excels
stat wise at what they started with. And so while
it's it's cool that you can change everyone, and it
kind of feels like you kind of just do that
because you prefer to have certain characters on your team.
Speaker 1: You know, you get you get permanent step booths every
time you max out a job for a character and
stuff like you do.
Speaker 2: But that takes time, and.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm such a stick of for that ship. I
want to max up as big jobs as I can.
Speaker 2: I think it's smart of them to at least make
it so that you unlock each character's best class by
also ranking in other classes, so that way you try
other things. But it's also cool that they give you
plenty of ways to just bypass the leveling system and
just get items that do that. So that's pretty cool,
by the way. The next like yeah bits, okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to summarize here, Big Chris was a big fan
of Louis Louis the Villain. Yes, put them down in
the Mount Rushmore. Jeapeg villains. Do you also feel that
strongly about Louis Louise right now Louise, Yeah, Louis, And
would he be in your mount Rushmore JPG villains? I don't.
I liked him. I don't know. I don't know if
I quite put him on there. There was maybe actually
like him a little bit less than a lot of
people do. I liked him a lot, but there was
something about him that was I don't want to say
trophy necessarily.
Speaker 2: I think that's fair to say, though, because you know
his ambitions are yeah, well get into spoilers. I don't
love some of the reasoning behind why he sort of
like hates everything, Like I get it, but it's like, eh,
well all right, I feel like we've been here before.
Speaker 1: I think what really makes the character work is the
voice acting performance, right I played English? Yeah, yeah, it's excellent,
So that part was excellent. So I don't know if
you quite make my I like he was a good villain,
especially we haven't had a lot of strong grapeg villains
in a while, so I think that's why he.
Speaker 2: Especially Dallas like their villains aren't typically that at least
on the persona side of things, you know, I don't
play a ton of SMT, but I feel like it's not.
Speaker 1: Like it's usually just like some mean adult for a
while and then eventually like god right, So yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think them rushmore of JRPG evans would have
a lot of final fantasy on it, you know, like
your Ceph Ross and your calf cousin are thing. But
uh they deserve the spot. They're excellent.
Speaker 1: Alian miracle says Okay, Mike, how much do I need
to pay for you to finish your down trail? You
sounded like you're on the cusp of the story turn
and where a lot of fun fancy nine stuff comes
into play, even more down the pipeline coming. I think
when mentioned it was a weak expansion, a lot of
the sentiment comes from the ship Chuds taking up more
of the conversation when it was out. This game is
going has me super invested. Take it from me, I
am a huge Seneca Games given how long I've been
in this industry community as a hobby, and not be disappointed. Also,
Sewan is right whatever he said, I'm co opting him
with this Love Love Venus look. First of all, yeah,
I'm sure, and I get that thing about the chuds.
But I know a lot of people who aren't chuts
who also just overall didn't love the expansion. Perhaps I'm
sure I'm still going to enjoy it, and I do
need to get to it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Part of it is when I was playing a lot
of Final Fantasy fourteen. It kind of was before I
had more bumb Cast responsibilities and things like that. You know,
it is like I gotta, yeah, I want to play
more games to talk about the BombCast. I can't just
go get in there and talk about File Fantasy fourteen
somewhere every week. As much as Dan would just love that,
he loves.
Speaker 2: Totally remembers when you do it too, and when I
ask him about it, he.
Speaker 1: Would be the biggest one.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: But no, I do want to get to especially because
you know, I haven't been able to do the raids
and those are so fun to and recorded chances I
would quit my job.
Speaker 5: And we need him so.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I do want to get to it.
I thought I was gone to drink the holiday break,
but I got busy with other stuff.
Speaker 2: I'll take some heat off of you, because everyone can
yell at me that I still need a fish and Walker.
So no, I You're fine. You're fine.
Speaker 1: That's a good expansion.
Speaker 2: I haven't started because I'm always like one expansion behind
and like, so I'm done with Shadow Bringers. I just
never started N Walker because I just felt burned out.
But I'll get to eventually. I know, I know how
good it is.
Speaker 1: I think that's part of it too. Look, I was
playing a lot of fun Facing fourteen pretty much almost
daily for like three strong years in a row. There
I did. I did hit A little bit of a burnout,
is what it really is.
Speaker 2: This just a lot cats back up. We love the game,
but it's a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot, B says. I've been playing the
Trails games from the very beginning of the series more
JA talk. Hell yeah, And I'm finished the three Sky games,
zero Azure and two Cold Steel games that over four
hundred hours in total. Still five games. Was to play,
what's the longest series you've invested? Man, I love chosen
Sky one and two, and I'm almost just too intimidated
by how many other games are in that series to
really like even start playing more of them. Part of
me is like I just don't know if I can
if I can do it at this point because the
Sky's game still feel self contained. I bet the other
ones are self contained to a degree, even though there's
a larger narrative. But I don't know it's intimidating. That's
just a good question though, Because I I play a
lot of series, they're not necessarily as super interconnected like
Final Fantasy like so many.
Speaker 2: Right, Like I played at least almost every Final Fantasy.
I think the only one I haven't played is twelve. Weirdly,
I like twelve, yeah, but so but it also feels
weird because again they're just completely separate things. But you
know the same thing with like Persona. I've played every
Persona since three, and but a lot of times it
all just is so disconnected. It doesn't have that through line.
Like those are the two series I would say.
Speaker 1: Like Gakuza would be good for that, right, there's that
three right there. Even in Zelda Mario, they don't have
that fruit like the Ace Attorney games kind of do.
And I play those, although I'm sure yeah, yeah, although
I haven't done Investigations two yet since that's finally been localized,
you know, like the games I'm putting like a thousand
hours in again, Fantasy fourteen is just kind of that
with all the expansions and everything, and it is this
one story, so that maybe makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I do have over four hundred hours easily into
fourteen alone.
Speaker 1: So yeah, oh gosh, it's days and days and days
of playtime. First Avenger says, when do you think we
will see a new Bloody Roar again? Since fighting games
are back on the menu. Get well soon, Jeff, Look,
I like bloy fine, I'll be upset if we get
a new Bloody Roar before we get a new Soul
caliber and dead or alive.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh, Bloody Roar, I'm sorry it's dead, y'all ain't coming back.
Speaker 1: That was Hudson's. That was Hudson who did Bloody Roar.
Speaker 2: Yeah? Where did it end publishing wise? To end with Konami.
Speaker 1: I forget Bloody Roar four. Let's see what still Hudson.
Speaker 2: Oh it was self published by Hudson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yep. That was the last one in two
thousand and three. Gosh, what was the one? I played?
Primal Fury I think on the GameCube. Yeah, that was
pretty good. I played for bet that. I was like,
all right, time to play some more. The Soul Cawver
two instead. I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't think that one's coming back. For
some fighting games, they just don't have life anymore, and
I think that would be a well, maybe it would
be more relevant than ever bringing back that series, but
I don't think the sales would be there unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Prickly Pete says, I just started agett to Pokemon for
the first time since my six year old son has
been collecting cards. I think to Pokemon Black for the DS.
I've been digging it, so I planned going through the
rest of the GBA DS three D S games next.
What game series if you always wanted to play but
never got around two? Oh that's fun? Oh yeah, I
mean Yakuza, especially with this Pirate one coming up. Everybody
likes it a lot, so I want to get into
that eventually. For sure. I keep the missed I want
to play all these missed games eventually so that those
are two of them.
Speaker 2: Missed with bitch that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm getting real, like my my love for
retro games is getting to new heights where it's finally
extending even to games that came up before it was born.
I just bought like all the old Ultimate games on
gog you could like get all of them for three bucks,
at least the first six, right, So I was like, sure,
I'll do that, so I might like, I might be
playing Ultima one at some point. Real sick. Oh shit, uh.
Speaker 2: Sort to tie it into a previous question, the Trails games.
I have always want to get into it, and you know,
now we have what is Trails in the Sky first chapter.
It's called the remake the Rema. I almost don't know
if I want to go that route though, because presumably
they would do the rest of them as well, you know,
two and three, And do I really want to wait
that long if I really like it? So I might
even just just jump right in when I had the
time to, Like, I have a newfound respect for Folcom
because I do like East ten and I want to
go back and play eight as well. So who knows
they'll do two?
Speaker 1: At least three is like a weird like side bonus content,
is it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so who knows, but they'll do like one to
two are basically one game, correctly.
Speaker 2: I also would like to imagine how Prickly p is
listening to us by starting with Pokemon Black. Very good,
very good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the way to do it. That's the way
to do it. I mean tell you what, if you like,
what's the very next one you should do? It should
probably just be hard gold and Soul Silver.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are next best. And then you know what,
Emerald and fire Red Lea Green still very excellent if
you want to go back to sixteen bit stuff. And
I think Sun and Moon underrated. I like those a lot.
I know you'll you have a big problem with the
intro there, and Sun and Moon some pasty stuff in general,
but they're sure they were trying stuff.
Speaker 1: They were going for it on that one exactly.
Speaker 2: I tried something different. It was a very chill game,
which I appreciate if you're in the mood for chill
tropical vibes.
Speaker 1: Good game, billam Access with s and O Fi the
passing by. What are some of your favorite Saturday Night
Live sketches, moments or memoriesaty Balls, I remember the sweaty balls.
Speaker 2: I know you're talking about sweaty balls.
Speaker 1: Sweaty balls, the sweaty balls.
Speaker 2: Everybody loves his sweaty balls.
Speaker 1: Gosh. My favorite way, that's the best way to consume
Saturday life was always those best of like DVDs or
VHS tapes they sold. It's like the best of. Chris
Farley was incredible. I think my favorite sketch is when
they're they're like it's like the behind the scenes of
filming one of those like commercials, and it was the
Colombian coffee crystals. And Chris Farley's like, just at a
restaurant and someone's like, h sir, do you know that
coffee or drinking isn't real coffee but Colombian coffee crystals.
He's like, oh what. He's like, it's a Columbian coffee
crystals and he gets pissed. He's like, you son of
a bitch. You He starts throwing it around and breaking
shit and it's this whole thing. God, yeah, I think
about that. I think about his delivery of the word
what all the time. Schmidz Gay one of the best
fake commercials they did. But god, uh, I remember the
early days of like Kazah or even maybe Napster or whatever.
We would you would just download the audio files of
Celebrity Jeopardy just because that ship was so funny. So yeah, yeah, definitely,
you know S and O for me is definitely that
Adam Sandlor era. It was my favorite, and then the
Will Ferrell era right after that was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I I think about a Weekend update. I
really loved when I believe what both Seth Myers and
Amy Poehler were on there at the same time.
Speaker 1: Was it was Amy Parantina Fey did it as a
duo for well, I know, but like that, you.
Speaker 2: Know, that's always like been a thing on acid. Also,
I'm trying to remember my eras here. I think they
were on together, but maybe I'm just thinking of like stuff. Yeah, okay,
but yeah, just I always love we Can Up Day.
I love that sort of try humor, like the the
sort of gold like silver ish age, you know, they
like second gold there in the like well would that
be like mid two thousands, you know, excluding like Jimmy
Fallon and all that stuff, but they had some real
gold on their hands there. Yeah, really good.
Speaker 1: I will say recently there was like this the sketches
where like there's just two people who look exactly like
Beavis and butt Head and like they're trying to like,
you know, you look just like this, buttead and like
you expect them to sally get it. They're just like
what I'm not. I'm not familiar with that character. I
don't know why that has some pretty funny shit. That's
right as Ryan gossling someone else naturally, all right? Next
up here is from on tire Wolf Hate Dogs. I've
been playing through the classic Mega Man games again and
having an amazing time. Question for Mike, but Seawan can
join a few wants. How would you roughly rank the
Mega Man games one through eleven two? Who's the best
robot master and why is it? Dust Man? Dust Mate
is pretty good. I like dust Man. I'm a big
snake Man boy. Snake Man has been my favorite robot
master since I ever had favorite anything. When I was
like four, you could ask me what my favorite color
was and what my favorite robot master was. I think
I just called him bosses back then. I don't know
if I knew the phrase robot master, never robot master.
Speaker 2: Shout out to splash Woman. She deserves more spec Yeah,
broke the mold, broke that glass ceiling. I'm proud of her.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We need more female robot masters for sure. Okay,
rough rankings I'm gonna do real quick. Three is at
the top, then two, then five to nine.
Speaker 3: In four.
Speaker 2: Ten.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put eleven above ten, eleven ten, Okay, I
thought you would. Yeah, eleven, ten, six, which I still like,
six a lot seven, and then one. Well I think
one's the worst playing one still, yeah, definitely, yeah, one, two, three.
I think that's all of them. I got them all there.
Oh no, I didn't put eight somewhere. Eight would be
above seven, but below six, so top the bottom. I
think they're all good to be clear. Three, two, five, nine, four, eleven, ten, six, eight,
seven one. Maybe I'll put eleven above four, right, yeah, now,
we'll keep it. We'll keep it.
Speaker 2: Wait seven second from the bottom.
Speaker 1: Then I don't like seven a whole lot. Yeah, I
still care it.
Speaker 2: I can't really argue, like, yeah, again, it's still a
good game. It's just like, yeah, the lesser of the
good games.
Speaker 1: I think it hurt. It gets hurt because it's the
only sn S classic name in game. It's just like
it seems a little stale next to Mega man X, right,
which is amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and some of the things like it may not
seem like a huge deal, but stuff like the sprites
feeling awkward at that size and everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, not the music's not amazing for a Mega
Man game, honestly, right, So yeah, I feel I like
all those games a lot, and you know three is
my favorite video game, but five isn't respected enough. I
love five. I think five is great, So I say
it's all the time, right, Like if any of those
nes megah games were the only Mega Man game on
that system, and if it was like Mega Man four,
which never gets that much love, but it was just
the one, right, everybody will be talking about how megaat
four is one of the best games ever. But because
it kind of you know, gets overshadowed a bit, and
there's other Mega Man games, it kind of falls off
a bit, all right. Next up here is a break. Actually, yeah,
why don't we take a break? Like Doctor Pepper zero
Sugar is empty anyway, So we got more of these
to get to. Let's take a quick break and then
we will get to the rest of those. So barb
and we're back. We've got more mail back stuff here,
starting with screaming Madden and says hello there, Mike, Jimmy,
fallon ride enthusism, Nati and Turbo always appreciates Star Fucks
Assault support Sean. If all these teasers of a new
Tony Hockey getting announced. I want to ask, what is
your pipe dream guest skater you want in this new
Tony Hawk.
Speaker 2: Okay, Dave Mira, Dave Kellie Slater, isn't Dave Mirror the
one who also does skateboard? I mean the guys actually does?
Speaker 1: I bet all of I bet everybody's in the BMX
can skateboard a little bit, right, all right? I want
to be like realistic.
Speaker 2: This is the only way I didn't know this. I'm
finding out from Chad that Dave Mira is dead? What what?
Why'd y'all tell me this?
Speaker 1: Dave Mira? What happened to Dave Mirra?
Speaker 2: What'd you do to him?
Speaker 1: Twenty Wait? Wait twenty sixteen? Damn nine years? Geez, that sucks.
That's too bad. I know that I gotta go play
some here at games out of respect, and I like,
even though it's like a pipeline, I want to be
realistic and pick somebody I think could actually be in
it and not just you know, say, Rocketeer or Mega Man, Right,
But I don't know again, I definitely think it's going
to be some kind of Xbox game studio thing. It's
it's gonna be Master chief, what would be what would
be more interesting?
Speaker 2: I got one for Mike.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's hear it.
Speaker 2: Sonic the Hedgehog.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just do Sonic the Hedgehog. Answer. That's the
right answer, Sinny escape, come on.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, split them on the helicopter blade. There you go.
Speaker 1: Did you see Sonic three the movie?
Speaker 2: I haven't seen any of the Sonic movies, yeah, like
at all. I haven't even seen Detective Pikachu because that's
like meshing of like the realistic cgi with the human characters.
I want to sound pot just like anything gives me.
Speaker 1: Just a slight spoiler for Song three, but I was
very pleased that they threw in the uh, like the
this aircraft sucks line. What you know what Sonic says
before he jumps off it in?
Speaker 4: Uh right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like no no inflate movies. Eh yeah, yeah they got that.
They just said that line like word for word, Like
hell yeah, still so wild seeing an adaptation of song
Adventure too as a successful movie. Man, they're fun. They're fine.
I don't I don't think they're amazing, but they're fun.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: Let's see here. Next up is from Beef Famous and Mike.
Let's all get problematic. At twenty twenty five, Minati and Sean,
how that's a new Year's resolution if we don't change anything,
grub Who in the community has the worst gaming opinion?
Is it Jeff saying Toya Proskar three is better than
any found fantasy game? Is I'm sure what saying Balance
is actual a good game? Maybe Turbo Shan sayings Super
Metro is overriding? Is it me saying Super Marius six
fours and all that good side note? I at least
admit I am wrong. Ah, It's funny that this one
sticks with me, and I don't mean to come out
for specific people, but I remember Nick Turbo defending those
Mario party games where you're like.
Speaker 2: All in the car, right, that was a wild one. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, no, we can't defend those.
Speaker 2: Some of the community is younger and the things that
they like drive me up the wall. This is not
related to gaming, so I'm not answering the question. But
there was a moment the discord where everyone was talking
about how nostalgic they are for the prequel trilogy, and
I was losing my mind. Mike, I was like, this
is the thing we all agreed upon, These all sung
what are you doing? Mac?
Speaker 1: It's a combination of nostalgia and like now the sequel
trilogy is the enemy for so many people, right kids, Man, Yeah,
there is it up? Then it doesn't need it doesn't
need your ris.
Speaker 5: Everybody too much food on the speech. That's what I'm tailing, birl.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: James Pie says that either of you get around to
the episode. I guess deals you for Persona three reload.
I was a huge fan of bass game. I found
to be a bit of a slog but still had
some cool character moments. Bonus question, wait your hopes for
the Persona four remake and what they call it? Persona
four platinum? I always liked, uh, Persona four rerun or
rewatch or something like that. That's that makes sense because.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes that's clever, Mike your close. I can't.
Speaker 1: I didn't come up with that. I saw somebody say,
are you social media? Yeah, my bamminned idiot. No, I
didn't check an episode. I guess I never ever had
heard good things about it, even though when when it
was uh fez right, everyone seems like it's it sounds
completely missible. I've been find just reading a synopsis of
it on Wikipedia for the most part. So no, I
don't have much of a thirst for I guess that's
a lie.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah sure, So I'm sure a lot of
people know. Persona three Reload was my game of the
year last year. I had to have a moment with
that one a couple of places. Hell no, I did
because I played Persona three fans back in the day.
No episode, I guess sucks.
Speaker 1: It was so funny when people were so mad initially
that it wasn't there right, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it wasn't there.
Speaker 1: Then it comes out and was like, yeah, that sucks
and us always suck, And I was like, man, I
need a big video gase I would three.
Speaker 2: Fans we knew and it was just sound for them
to be mad. But I get it. It meant that
we didn't have one like definitive Persona three. But then
it gets added in her own it's like, yeah, it
sucks as much as it did back of the day. Yeah,
I guess there was some hope that they made it better,
but yeah, I'm not even.
Speaker 1: An oh percent of four rewind Coldie, I'm not. I'm
never a big fan of these DC campaigns in general,
even like when they're supposed to be really good, Like
I know, se A Play two and three have some
of these people like a lot, and I just don't
even check those. It's just not I don't know, it's
just never something I'm more than interested in.
Speaker 5: I was about to say, whatever you think about the
dancer issue, it should have been it needed to be
with the release with them, we re looved when he
came out, like, come on.
Speaker 2: Let's see we found him. We found the one, but
he had to.
Speaker 5: It came out with the other thing.
Speaker 2: It was like, it was weird.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 2: If it was if it should be a free update,
I'll meet you. It should be a free up. It's
weird that I was paid deals there.
Speaker 1: As far as my hopes for the Persona for a remake,
I just you know, want that same level quality they
did with three. Obviously smooth out some of the homophobic edges.
Speaker 2: Edges, yes, what they did in Persona three, that guy
that has no salvation.
Speaker 5: Not even remaking that game because say you have a character.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cast sucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like I think I like that game a lot.
And again, I you know, when I say things have
aged poorly, I'm always talking about that writing stuff right now.
Speaker 2: Isn't it wild? That was gonna be I'm made sure
I don't make up is it wild? That was going
to be the first gay romance option, and instead they
went the hard opposite direction. He's a huge bigot instead
of this.
Speaker 5: Is this is gonna be People's gonna get mad, I think.
But like Atlas, they don't know who to do that shit.
I don't think they know. I don't think they had
the chops.
Speaker 1: I sure did enjoy metaphor fantasias, just not having it actually,
yeah like it. If they got rid of it, I
don't need the weird dating some aspect of it that
then doesn't go anywhere, because like once you are officially
dating a character, that you never talk about your relationship
with them again because that's.
Speaker 4: The end of it.
Speaker 2: That's that's what metaphor made me realize. Because I'm a
sucker for romance and video games. I just think it's
cool when it's done well and there's a meaningful addition
to the game through that. But metaphor made me realize
is that I always want Alice to either get better
at it or drop it. Maybe it's better if they
just don't do it, you know, if they suck at it.
Speaker 5: I never cared that way, Like I didn't know. I
knew people care that way about romans. For me, I
was like, oh, if I get this character to the max,
I will get like like a bonus to this fusion type.
Speaker 2: And that was it for me. It wasn't like nowadays,
man like, oh this this is my real girlfriend of
the video game God damn.
Speaker 5: I was like, what that shit was weird?
Speaker 1: All right? Next time from Bikes and Bruise Bike, are
you going to stream Doom Eternal? Because I need to
see how a real gamer plays this game because it's
kicking my butt hard. Also, thank you to the backroom
crew for getting stuff on YouTube, like for Jeff stream
game Club and all their side content because they're the best. Yes,
thank you to both of you. Yeah, yeah, I've been
I'm hoping that I can get my new computer before
I play Doom Eternal for the game club is why
that is our game club game. So I'm holding out.
Speaker 2: If it's like it's so well optimized though you could
totally run with like high frame ran and everything.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a couple more weeks and if
it looks like I'm not getting his computer anytime soon.
Then I'll just go for it. I got some more
things to stream here, like, uh, I got I got
to play the thing remastered now because of Jeff's punishment,
I've done all this Manick Manton stuff. I'm like, I
may as well do a stream of Day of the Tentacle.
I played through that game a million times and always
enjoy it. Let's do it on the stream for people
to watch. Who watch the Manick Mansion stuff. It's scrot
to sekroo kind of soon here. I think I'm a
filling the urge.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like to go like from straight from
the one from sock game to the other. So I
want to have a little buffer after beating Dark Souls three.
But I'm hearing the siren call of the Secaro Nati.
So okay, the Rachi says, Tony Tony Hawk too, You're done.
Speaker 5: This, Yeah, don't worry about it. I'm gonna say, don't
you need.
Speaker 1: That we now that we acknowledge this joke, you can
stop doing it.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, it seems like forever now, so that's gone.
Speaker 2: All right? You're happy you got your one.
Speaker 1: There you go, John Appleton, this is for you, Sean.
Apologies that this has been touched on already. I know
it's been allude to, but haven't heard anything definitive. What's
up with VIDI King Jeopardy Slash something else replacing it?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, I'm cooking. We're just gonna reformat it the
Game Mess Trivia Show. Maybe I'll just call it Game
Mess Trivia and that rolls out the tongue. It's just
gonna be a slightly different format, but we'll bring back
the trivia show at some point in the future. I'm
just working on and figuring out what that looks like
and making sure that it doesn't get released as something
because we have to or anything like that. I know
that still has in the rundown because he hasn't removed it.
But I want to make sure it's something that I
want to do, that the guys want to do, and
that the guests want to do, and that the audience
will appreciate. So I've just been talking people in the discord,
seeing what they would want, and then figuring out how
we can make that work. But yeah, in some form
that will come back.
Speaker 1: Doctor writ says, what should my two thousandth milestone Platinum
be part yak Kuza.
Speaker 2: Two thousand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just finished the thing where I figured out
every game I've beaten, and it was nine hundred and
thirty and I felt pretty proud of that. But two
thousand platinum, not games beaten, but platinum. Okay, So yeah,
pirate yak is Indiana Jones person to reload or suggest
something else. I mean those person reload will be cool, man.
I feel like it should be something funny. Ballad wonder
World should be your two thousand miles zone.
Speaker 5: Jesse Hintai golf stuffing, oh head tight golf is.
Speaker 2: That on no achievements, no achievements only only on the switch.
That's the only place I can live.
Speaker 1: You know, shit, yeah, shed Moud three, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't think I played two thousand games.
Speaker 2: If it's one of those options, Doug, you know, for
some three reload if you haven't played yet, that's a
damn fine game like that would take you a while
to play at them, but that is a very very
good game.
Speaker 1: That's not one of those cases where like you have
to like beat the game like eight times a pot
in the make because you're supposed to date every Girl
or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yes, well I guess it. Well three Soul Yeah, well no,
they do have plotok relationships now, uh I think mathematically
you can do it in one playthrough, so yeah, I
may check out a guide for that. I couldn't figure
it out, and I know that game forwards and backwards.
I could not get every trophy on my first playthrough.
So but does have a you know, new game plus
where you can like breeze through cutscenes and stuff, so
they it won't be that bad.
Speaker 1: Lewis a Garcia says Chrystal or Amy Rose?
Speaker 5: And why.
Speaker 2: That was this question?
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say this. Amy Rose was like a
good character in Sonic CD, and then she was a
bad character for a very long time until relatively recently
when they dropped her whole kind of stalker unrequited love
with Sonic Angle. Right, So yeah, we don't have to
answer their questions.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Also, if you're asking what I think you're asking,
Crystal is nineteen, you pervert? Moving on.
Speaker 1: Next up is from Mitchie Pooh says, if you could
use a time machine, would you rather have one that
only goes back in time or only goes forward? I
don't know if I want to see the future. I
don't think there's anything. I don't know there's anything. I
don't there's anything there for me. Uh, backwards be fun. Yeah,
I want to go backwards some times.
Speaker 5: I want to see I'm going to go back.
Speaker 1: And immediately find out if Jesus was really.
Speaker 2: Jesus for you or not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be so excited and open to hear what
I have to say. I bet like, all right, every
buddy kind of figure it out. What's the here by
field trip report? But what Jesus thing?
Speaker 2: Look, he was a dude. I don't know what.
Speaker 1: A dude. I'm gonna be like, all right, here we are,
let's see this stone move. It's gonna be a real problem.
Edgar Marina says, how familiar you guys with the Italie
series started watching a YouTuber named backlog Battle as we
wanting to invest all my free time the JRPGs. Even
as a JRPG fan, Italia has always, for some reason
that felt like a step too far. I don't know,
I don't know too far to what. I don't know
too far to something it's want to enter, you know
what I mean? It's just too far.
Speaker 2: It's just like the thighs are too much. I just
can't do it.
Speaker 1: I'm not I just I'm not sure, but there's something there.
I'm like this it seems too much. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I want to check out because I want to know, like,
why do they keep making these? What is this game?
I know nothing about it, so I don't know. At
some point I might see what it's all about. I do.
Speaker 1: You have a lot of questions like why what is this?
And how they keep the assumption?
Speaker 5: My assumption is there cheaper to do and they should
sell them to the same people all the time.
Speaker 2: Probably okay? Uh.
Speaker 1: Michael Relly says Sep dogs. Since Jeff is suffering from
bullshit items, my question is for Sean, were you born turbo?
Did you become turbo through training? Was there freaking accident involved?
Also just kidding, Jeff up, you feel better faster than
it takes you to beat Blues Brothers two thousand?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was born and the molded bar uh you.
I did adopt it not too long ago, even, probably
just like five or six years ago. I started using
this user name. Yeah, I think it was like five
years ago, just because I was tired. I don't really
had a good user name before, and so I was
just like, what what can I do that would be interesting?
And I was like, you know what tasty Steve if
Ultra David. We got theme going here in the FTC
Turbo Shan.
Speaker 5: There we go. You need a neat name.
Speaker 1: Me and you're somewhere that we have like our handles
still somewhat prelevant as part of our online personalities, right,
and like I'll still you know, use tol codeo.
Speaker 2: Well technically Jeff brub does as well.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but like you know, his real old one
the job or whatever, right job hearing about crunch bogus
all the time? Anymore? Right? S I guess Surf huh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
that makes sense. Jurf is just really good though, Okay.
And then starting to get to the bottom of this one,
Lenny Cool Dick denversus Turboshan question, Now that your Jan's
apprentice with video editing for Giant Bomb, have you learned
anything cool from the Jerome I kind of scare your
neighbors during your smoke breaks, or how to eat nine
hot dogs in a single setting.
Speaker 2: Ah, give me a second, effect you do your question.
Speaker 1: My question, which Giant Bombs seemingly doing more collaborations with
game Spot. I would use supplant yourself as the main
character of game Spot after you clearly establish yourself as
the main character of Giant Bomb. Gosh, yeah, how do
I infiltrate game Spot better? I got the Tim and
Lucy Angele, and I've been meeting some other people through
these events. We got it just has to I just
have to get on one. I have to get on
one like straight up shoot game Spot production, and then
it just kind of takes care of itself. Right, I'm
like the disease I just will start spreading and they
won't be able to contain me.
Speaker 2: And for my question, I think I would say that
I'm trying. I'm trying to say this in a way
that doesn't like, in a way seem negative. I would
say that me and jam both have our own style
of doing production work that both lead to the same results.
So we kind of continue to do things our own way,
and so I just learn like workflow stuff that makes
things a bit easier. But Jan did have to teach
me a million things to figure out how to use
that damn CMS. So if anyone ever wonders why something
broken on giant bomb dot com. It's because it's a
fucking rats and has to behind the scenes, y'all. And
it's a miracle that Jan knows everything he does and
appreciati if they taught me all all that there is
to know about that.
Speaker 1: JD Camp says, best jepygs for people who don't care
for jerpgs, Let's say, like still like a turn based,
relatively classic style of JRPG. Let's not just say like
some action game. I was gonna say, Crono Trigger, Crowchigger.
So it has like the best things about jerpgs, with
the music and the fun stuff. The pacing is very good.
It's just a lot happening. It's not that long. It's
this beloved game that you'll probably kind of feel good
about getting a chance to play. I think, yeah, if
you're only ever gonna play one JRPG, it should be
Creno Trigger.
Speaker 2: That's a good answer. I think the Final Fantasy remake
Saga has been really good because it gives you all
the beats of seven while having, you know, a much
more action oriented vibe to everything, and it feels modernized
in so many ways. And this may seem antitheticulture the question.
But if you're down for anime, I would say like
Atlas's stuff, like in general, both Persona and Metaphorpias, despite
their length, overall, they are respectful of your time in
terms of like how long you stay in a menu.
So if you're down for story and you want to
play traditional turn based RPG, they're very good, just like
getting you through the daunting menu stuff and to the
rest of the story. So otherwise, yeah, for action stuff
like Fronto Trigger FSN remake, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: Mari RPG not gonna stop Paper good call, of course, yeah,
because that cuts all the bullshit and it's like you
know the uh some of those games in that like
Lineage to like Martin Luigi, they're like, you know, fourteen
hours long, so there you go, there you go, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: All those not all of them, like do my RPG paper.
Speaker 2: Mario Chat and they say, tried Persona and made it
only like a dozen hours. Okay, So if you're not
into that house, then yeah, something like the Nintendo RPG
stuff like Mario and stuff that seems like Mario Vibe.
Speaker 1: Okay. Next up is two Versus Mount Rushmore User interfaces go, Okay,
since I've been on my Lucas Starts a venture game
kick again that kind of classic point and click verb
usage thing with the talk to use, not the one
a Maniac Mansion where they had too many of the verbs,
but like circa Day of the Tentacle where they had
it down pretty pretty packed. Yep. Okay, Doom Doom which one.
Speaker 2: One with Doom guy with the faces.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great, that's great PERSONA five.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's quality, That's what I'm saying. Like with
Mount Rushmore, I know, I'm thinking more like Super Mario
Brothers one or Mario sixty four.
Speaker 1: Like that game was like that was like one of
the first time ever is like one of the points
of how good a game was was it's UI. Right, Okay,
sure you're not gonna let me get away with Ridge
Racer type four for U, I are you?
Speaker 2: Well, no, you're pushing LucasArts stuff.
Speaker 1: But okay, medal, you're solid. That UI is great, Okay.
It's kind of boxes and the way they cycle that
just the look of the codec calls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the looking like an l C D watch
but a UI that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, there
you go.
Speaker 1: There we go, I said, will give me some points
with Dan who seems that he seems displeasing.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Chatty is bringing up dead space also, I
was thinking about that.
Speaker 1: Space very good, lack of just great.
Speaker 2: That's kind of cool, that's kind of cool.
Speaker 1: Then gave me points in chat good. Okay, last one here,
excuse me, Banana Brain says with sewn on this week,
I wanted to ask if you guys were psyched for
Fatal Fury, say the Wolves, if you think the first
season past being include for free is good value, if
you'd like two other would and if you'd like for
other franchise do the same. I am excited gonna try
that betas soon. I'd like in the first season, like
I never I never even bought the first season for
Street Fighter six because there wasn't much there. I probably
would have bought the season anyways because it has Ken
and chun Lean, right, so that's awesome. Oh yeah for
fail Fury, for Fatal Fury, and then what Andy Bogart's
some other things. So yeah, I don't mind, especially because
it's not like, oh it's ninety bucks to get it.
It's just sixty bucks and you get the first season
with the game, right.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think I think this is a very good
call for them to, Yeah, just include it in. It's
weird how they're doing it where it's like it's just
included in the base price of the game. It's not extra,
it's sixty dollars, right, but they're like marketing it sort
of like a season pass. It's like a free season pass,
which I guess that makes the marketing clear at least,
even if it's unorthodox. And yeah, it is kind of
a neat thing. I think in the past they've done
it where if you buy within like the first month,
you'll get for free. I think that's what they did
for a kof fourteen and Sam show I want to say,
I think that was also a good idea. But yeah, yeah,
just including in the and maybe that's what we'll be
here too. Maybe they'll cut it off at some point
because they are calling it like it's like City of
the Walls, like limited edition or something like that, even
though it's just the base price of the game. So
maybe they'll like convert that into standard edition the future
it won't include it, But yeah, it's really good and uh,
Mike count if we want to throw an extra break
in here, but otherwise that would segue us into the
end of the show and what I want to talk about.
Speaker 1: You want to take one more little break because we're
gonna catch up on super said, talk about what we've
been playing. So yeah, we'll be right back. Everybody, all right,
We're back, Yeah, Sean, Do you check out that City
of the Wolves beta?
Speaker 2: I did, Yeah, downloaded earlier today. Didn't get very far.
I did the tutorial and then played like five or
so online matches, which, speaking of Hey, the net code
seems pretty solid. It didn't smooth over a like one
an over one hundred and fifty milsecond delay as much
as I would like, you know, like the way Street
Fighters six and Guilty your strive can at least handle
like one fifteen mil seconds ping, but like if it's
one one hundred or lower, it felt solid. It felt
like your average rollback neck code game. So that was good.
But the game itself, it's interesting because, like you mention,
you've been watching other people's videos talking about fatal Fury
and how back in the day Garro, which is like,
you know, the lineage of this game was sort of
the response to third strikes, So your fare three to
Third Strike, and now we have it where a City
of the Wolves is sort of like their spasive Street
Fighters six, and yeah, you can feel that. You can
feel that when you actually play it. There's some Street
Fight six isms in there, even including you know, the
simple control scheme, which is just a good idea in general,
and most fighting games should have that nowadays, at least
it's an option. But yeah, it feels good. I'm not
the biggest S and K fighting game person, but I'm
trying to get into them. I played a little bit
of a kof fifteen. I really liked it, and I
was like, you know what, City of the Walls, this
is where I get in to all the S and
K stuff. I am enjoying why I'm playing so far.
I picked up b Jenny, my girl from back in
the day. She's back. I love to see that, and
I'm just having a good time. It's I don't really
know what to say about because it's like such a
standard fighting game in the way that most people will
expect you. You have your special moves, you have your
super moves, and like you have basically you know, four
specials to us and everything like that. It does really
just play a lot like you expect a Street Fighter
or King of Fighters to play.
Speaker 1: You know, That's that's part of the appeal I think.
I bet, by the way, I just realized I put
the hockey game long because I see it's Tide going
into overtime. Everybody probably for a second, sorry about that,
But that's that's part of the appeal I think, is
that it's that simplicity, right, that there's something pure about
these S and K fighting games, and you know, it's
much like Street Fighters six and I do a lot.
Part of me is like, well, I could I could
go for something that has even fewer systems than that.
Not that these games don't have systems, there's the whole
riving up engine and s SPG and and and all
of these things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where Yeah, And that's basically like, yeah, the SPG
is like uh sort of rage or guts or whatever
you want to call it from other games where it's like,
you know, when you're a certain health amount, you have
access to more stuff. And the rev gauge is like
Street Fighter six's drive gauge. It's a lot of stuff
that's just going on fighting games right now. It's just
S and K pointing they're on spine. But it's fun.
I'm learning it. I wish there was a practice mode
by get why there isn't an online test. I get it,
but you know, I don't really know how to play
a game, so I'm kind of just going casual matches
and hanging buns and firing stuff out. But so far,
at least it's fun.
Speaker 1: Can you at least just play the CPU or do
you have to be playing people?
Speaker 2: You have to be playing people unfortunately. Yeah, but you
know we can go a loll be going or.
Speaker 1: That cool, cool, cool, anything else that you want to
talk about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one more. I'll try to keep it quick because
we're run long. But I have been doing my punishment
Mike that you handed down after you got first place
in a Bowser's Hurry Around time Bomb, and mine was
that you had me play Warrior World, and uh yeah,
I you know, I people can see on the video version.
I got my old childhood CRT set up once again
and I have a modded Wei. I've been playing it,
so you know, real hardware on a shoot CRT and
uh yeah, it's been a blast. That's what Treasure made that.
Speaker 1: Right, it's treasure. Yeah, Yeah, it's real weird that Treasure
bade this game.
Speaker 2: You can feel the arcadiness of it, you can feel
the Warrior landness of it. And I love it because
it feels much like you know how Mario has the
Land in the world, and they translate to formulas pretty
well between the two. Yeah, they translate the two D
Warrior Land formula into three D in a way that
makes sense. You know, it's warrior so you know, it's
more of a beat them up than it is a
platform or a little more puzzle platforming stuff. And it's
very fun, including the fact that it was sort of
Mario three D Land before Mario three D Land, Like
you to get the collectibles throughout every stage, you go
to these separate little like diorama areas where you like
have to adjust the camera to see some perspective tricks
and stuff like that. And yeah, it's a very interesting game.
It feels good to play, you know. The dash and
jump is very satisfying.
Speaker 1: Feels so good in this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, be able to do the spinning attack you grasp
some one and spin them around to like knock.
Speaker 1: Out other enemies drivers amazing.
Speaker 2: Driver, Yeah, them into the ground and there's all like
puzzle solving stuff associated with all that too. It's it's
a good game. Like I see why some people may
have loved it, because some things do great on me
a little bit, like some of the challenge levels. The
jumping just feels weird because because the way like Wirio
lands on ledgens, you can land out a legend like
slide off a ledge like when you clearly land on.
There's small stuff like that I see would have bugged
people back in the day. But yeah, I'm I'm really
digging out about halfway through, and yeah, it's just my
like before dinner, I'll spend like half an hour playing
through the level and it's spent good time.
Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah, I just I've always thought it was
we underappreciated because I didn't play it till recently, and
you know, everybody, I just never hear anybody have much
enthusiasm for it, which always felt weird to me, Like, yeah,
you know, they made a three D warrior game and
it was treasure. You think there'd be some some noise
for this thing, and there's just not much and no, and.
Speaker 2: They advertised their good amount back the day. I remember,
you remember those like pamphlets you would get from kmart
or whatever that says, like, you know, GameCube games out
this summer. I would see Warrio World in there. I'm like, huh,
this looks kind of me. I want to try that.
I just started until now.
Speaker 1: Because the GameCube did fall off pretty hard there once
they realized it wasn't selling great two thousand and three.
It's not that it's relatively early in the system.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they cut that one off pretty quick.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they It definitely got dingmed a lot from
the press for being short, But again, these days, who
cares if it's short?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 2: Isn't long?
Speaker 1: About everyone complains about how short the game is.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, yeah, there's not a lot of levels,
but one of my complaints that I would actually say
is that the levels themselves are decently long. They're like
half an hour. Ease's that's why I only get one
level done tonight.
Speaker 1: How long to beat? Says main story? Maybe six hours.
I don't think. Maybe a little short to me, but
it's whatever, all right, becush. Just for me, it's just
been a vowed a lot more of a vowed, and
I just keep it having more and more fun.
Speaker 2: With it.
Speaker 1: I found it like a legendary pistol, So I'm doing
a dual pistol build. I don't I find that very
satisfying in the game. Because you don't have AMMO, it
just compensate instead that it's a relatively long relot time
for the pistols, but if you have, you relot it
out to be shot because they're like, you know, blunderbusses.
But because you kind of cycle thoughtfully, you still have
a pretty good rhythm to it, and you just kind
of output this pretty nice consistent damage. I just like
the way it feels just kind of you know, going
in there blasting and using the cool downs to sort
of keep enemies in place or do extra damage and dodging,
and the combat just continues to feel really, really good
in this game. I understand that's not doing as much
as a sky Rim in terms of the system or
even the scale, but like losing some of that stuff
and making the combat feel this much better I think
is a worthy trade off for sure.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I like that well super tight or mail
bit that we had earlier. Yeah, avowed being maybe a
little smaller in scale has been a good thing for
the game. Overall, because it meant that could be more focused,
and like Jeff said on socials and stuff like, it
feels very human. It feels like people took their time
creating a thing for you. Maybe there's not as much
content as you want, but overall, it's like a very
well made game.
Speaker 1: All right. I think we just got one more super
chats here from ol Grug that says, why does Jen
not give up podcast points anymore?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: Last forever? Why? Well, what would you have some inside information?
Speaker 2: So what you did? You know?
Speaker 1: I co opted it?
Speaker 2: I don't know, you listener, you know what you did.
You're fine, You're fine. I'm I'm calling them out. They
know what they do they do?
Speaker 1: Okay, shit, you know mem j oh Grug ruined podcast
points for all of us apparently, damn how Grug? You
think Jan remembers? You think do you think he intentionally
like we forgot? You think he just kind of forgot
it was for a while there.
Speaker 2: It has a lot to do if you didn't know,
make a track of podcast points.
Speaker 5: Maybe he choose a run out of points to give out.
He needs to refill them something.
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, it's not like the house points from Hogwarts.
It's not just the infinite. I'm out of him. There's
only so many.
Speaker 2: Yes, Lewis Garcia was the Crystal Aemy thing you know
he did there?
Speaker 1: You go all right? I think we did a podcast there.
How about that?
Speaker 2: We did something for two hours.
Speaker 1: We did something. I'm gonna start playing us that because
this one actually lasts for a while. Sean. Thank you
so much for for helping out here and filling in
for our sicky boy Jeff Grub.
Speaker 2: Of course, it's always a fun time. And yeah, don't
worry everybody, I'm not permanent. Jeff will be back next week.
Presumably we'll be back.
Speaker 1: We can't get rid of a grub. No, I'll tell
you what. I'll be out next week. You get grubbing, Sean,
We'll see. I'll probably be here. Uh, what's going on,
John Bones, I don't think I even know.
Speaker 2: You know what we're We're doing some stuff. We're trying
some stuff people know today you know Jeff was playing
uh like a dragon pirate Yakaza and Hawaii. I think
I got that right with Tom from the game spot
team today. And yeah, we're just doing a little bit
more of that. As people know. Giant Bomb and game
spot hey owned by the same company. Well, if we
actually started working like one team like we have been
behind the scenes, we're doing a little bit more of that,
So I think we might have another stream of that
tomorrow in addition to you if he's feeling there by
doing game as Mohring's in the morning and stuff.
Speaker 1: All right, right, I'll keep an eye out for all that.
You have any weekend plans lined up here?
Speaker 2: Playing some games? You know that game in the other game. Yeah,
probably playing some games, gotcha.
Speaker 1: I got my brother's birthday on Saturday, so we're going
out to a little brewery on that day. Yeah, look
for that. Oh god was rough. Check out the New
nineties Disney where we ranked the World Showcase pavilions in Epcot.
It was fun. Things got things got heated for a
bit there in a fun way, but like we were
getting passionate about this stuff. It was pretty fun. We
were giggling like idiots by the end. So all the fandango, all.
Speaker 2: Three parts of that fun time with his punishment.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, absolutely, And then hopefully he'll stream again this weekend.
He's been pretty consistent streaming at least once a day
during the weekend, so uh yeah, he's gonn work through that.
I'll probably be streaming maybe tomorrow's still going on Saturday.
Maybe I'll do my daya techacal thing tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Go watch Mikey.
Speaker 1: I read it, read it. I have to poop, and
we're off.
Speaker 5: All right, say bye to the recording people.
Speaker 2: By recording people, all right, breakthrough?
Speaker 1: All right? I could just go right back to it.
Speaker 2: You who's going to Oh yeah I can. I was
also going to say, Christian broad up, I said, where
are we going to talk about the Marvel Rival stuff
at all?
Speaker 1: We did on Tuesday?
Speaker 2: Yeah you did? Okay, God Daniel, Okay, we're coming I.
Speaker 5: Think so about whatever.
Speaker 1: It came up in a super. He came up in
a super.
Speaker 5: He came out in a super. Yeah yeah, yeah, it
should stump back into it, break break.
Speaker 1: Break Okay, I read I got him up. Okay, got
them at that.
Speaker 5: All right, that's right.
Speaker 1: We never did this name that Concord thing.
Speaker 5: Some day it's gonna happen one day that we have
absolutely nothing, and that's gonna save our ass.
Speaker 2: I believe they will get absolutely zero of these ways.
You need to actually just put the name on the character.
Speaker 1: I think it's like the thing is to see what
we come up with. Yeah, alright, you guys ready, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, it should be.
Speaker 5: All right, break break break, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Penny out real quick.
Speaker 2: Right, Penny right?
Speaker 5: Yeah, the real dog totally no figures.
Speaker 2: That really all is a soundboard. It's all on his head,
I tell him. Yeah, problematic.
Speaker 5: It's the sky Racy getting into him.
Speaker 2: Ray skating too. Yeah, it's just a stream deck. Dan,
it's I think we need to have an airvention. Christian.
How are you doing? I'm doing fine, chilling.
Speaker 1: You know we were chilling.
Speaker 5: Okay, it's watching that Reacher show earlier today, third season
drop today, watching the first episode, watch the first episode.
Speaker 2: Pretty good, sad uh Amazon Prime joint Ye, okay.
Speaker 1: Pretty good.
Speaker 5: This Yeah, it's it's all the right notes. This is
the first episode. I don't know who's gonna keep going.
And it's the first three episodes now out, and then
they release it in batches. I think, I don't know.
I don't quote me on that, but that's how it
worked last time.
Speaker 2: All right, uh, jump back to it if you're ready,
I'll say to the drugged up Dan Reiker, thank you
he says, I'm smart to know a lot about games.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: What about me? Yeah, you know, it's a complainy about
me being mean to Jeff. What I even say I
don't want to say about him. I competted him when
Sean caught him a bad gamer.
Speaker 5: It's ever too mean to chef grow.
Speaker 2: That's true. He doesn't get enough shit on the air
that we really need to.
Speaker 1: H Man, that hockey game is tied in the third period.
That sounds exciting. I bet they're all enjoying that.
Speaker 2: H all right, all right, by wait, Mike, I did
just put everything on here, So if you want to
cut short at any point, feel free. Okay, we might
be able to waiting around a few of them.
Speaker 1: Not to write a newsletter, but I don't because this
is it. After this is just a few more super
chats I'll talk about. I don't know, I don't I
don't even have too many games we'll talk about. Sure,
you give somethings, so.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, sure, let's shoot him back with them,
all right? Break Yeah. Fighting games are the most expensive
games you can ever buy because they make you spend
thirty bucks every fucking years for like four characters.
Speaker 1: Huh week pathetic. We're on a war craft you.
Speaker 2: You haven't.
Speaker 5: You haven't an issue. It's not like it's not an argument.
Speaker 2: Here, but my problem you could play you do it anyways, all.
Speaker 1: Right, I gotta write my newsletter before it's midnight here
you turn into because I forgot to do it earlier. Right,
all right,