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let's get out to the hotline. Welcome in one of

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my favorite guess we got the big man, Brandon Huffman

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of two four to seven Sports.

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Speaker 2: Brandon, how the heck are you, buddy?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Just living the gym out of these days?

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Speaker 6: Ben? How you doing?

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Speaker 4: Love it man, appreciate you hopping on. I'm doing fantastic.

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We're in November. College football season is in full effect.

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For getting in the basketball season, high school playoffs and

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state championships are being handed out. We uh, I know

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you took a nice trip out to Salt Lake City

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to get eyes on these local talents, so I want

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to delve into that.

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Speaker 2: But what's this time of the year like for you

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there at two four seven?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's crazy because you're dealing with a lot of

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the schools that with a crazy coaching carousel. You're dealing

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with a lot of the schools that are, you know,

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getting close to making a new hire, and what does

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that mean for the current commits? What does that mean

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for commits to other schools? Will they circle back? So

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you're tracking that, tracking who's going where. Then the late flips,

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the guys that have been committed to a school for

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the year today, a quarterback from the Bay Area had

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been committed to Vanderbilt for fourteen months, two weeks before

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sunning Day decides to commit and open things up. So

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a lot of flip watches going on right now, as

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well as the coaching carousel watch. And we haven't even

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gotten into the portal which is opening for D two

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and D three right now. We'll be opening in January,

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so we still have that whole crazy part of the

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season to cover.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I just saw recently with the James Franklin hire, for instance,

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that all these Penn State recruits and commits are going

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to be taking an official visits to Virginia Tech this

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next weekend.

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Speaker 2: The chaos is already ensuing.

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Speaker 6: You got Virginia Tech who's got one coach on the field,

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the interim head coach is coaching, while the new head

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coach who won't coach a game until next August, is

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recruiting guys and bringing guys in for official visits, and

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he's replacing his good friend and his former DC. I mean,

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if that doesn't kind of speak to where college football

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is at in twenty twenty five, I don't know what does.

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But that's the kind of craziest. I mean, you got

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the whole ole miss situation. If Lane Kifton is gonna stay,

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is he going to go? They may need an answer

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and what does that mean for ole missus recruiting class.

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And so there's so many dominoes in play with the

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coaching changes that are even in addition to the already

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crazy nature of the final weeks until signing day.

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Speaker 2: Crazy times.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about the crazy times here at Salt Lake City.

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You got to see some good football and good football players.

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Speaker 2: How was your trip out the SLC oh.

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Speaker 6: It was fantastic. You know, Blairry and Goulah, who I

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work with, had been covering that event for years and

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had been raving about it, and so I was excited

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to get out there. And the weather could not have

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been better. It was perfect. It wasn't too cold, it

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wasn't too hot, it was just like kind of the

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right weather, and then you got to see some great action.

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Speaker 5: You got to see, as I put.

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Speaker 6: It this week on our podcast, the guys that I

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wanted to see really dominate did. And you when you

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go to an event like that and you see six

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games and you see, you know, commit to every power

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for conference and then to the PAC twelve and the

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Big Sky, you want those playmakers to make the plays.

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I went to go watch, they did their thing. But

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then even other guys that maybe weren't as high on

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the radar, they did their thing as well. So that's

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what it was great to have, you know, six games

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over two days and great teams loaded with talent. It

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wasn't like you were just going to watch one guy

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on the team. You know, some of these teams had

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double digit Division one guys and so I definitely got

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my money's worth. I will be back for future semi finals.

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It was everything that Blair had hyped it up to be.

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Speaker 4: And then some who was most impressive to you in

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your trip out here out of the recruit that you

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Speaker 6: I would say obviously Keenan Pula had the play.

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Speaker 5: Of the weekend.

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Speaker 6: But if we're going from the beginning of the game

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to the end of the game, without question, it was

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little Petti Moulwalla. And this is the second time this

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year I got a chance to see him. I had

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seen him earlier in the season in Boising Factor against

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when Orion played Rocky Mountain and he had fifty three

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and a half sacks in that game. He was awesome

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on Thursday and then also had a touchdown catch. But

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what a menace he is going to be for offensive

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linemen in the Big twelve. They're just gonna have a

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hard time figuring out a way to block him because

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he's so crappy's so technically sound. He's got a great motor,

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he's got quickness off the ball, he's got that length.

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Speaker 5: The game to the end of the game and everything

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that he did in between, it.

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Speaker 6: That Lopetti was probably my favorite player last weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was.

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Speaker 4: That's a really nice pickup for b Yu. I don't

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think realize how good he is.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think that you know, he was a

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little bit overshadowed at times by other guys in the

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state that probably had a lot of the early attention.

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the most dramatic recruitment. I think he visited Stanford. I

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want to say he maybe visited cal. I know he

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visited UCLA Utah, but BYU, you know, it's kind of.

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Speaker 5: An unremarkable recruitment in terms of he just didn't bring

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a lot of attention to it.

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Speaker 6: He just went out there and you know, make the plays.

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excitement about Rider Lions committing in the spring, and you know,

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where were they going to stand with some of the

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other top targets that he kind of flipped under the radar.

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But now you look back and you see how he's

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jumped up in the rankings, and you see what he's

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done on the field this year, And now that's one

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that you look at that you could call it a

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sneaky good pickup, but I think it's not sneaky good.

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I think it's an outstanding pickup.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at the top ten recruits in the state

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of Utah for two four seven, pretty much all of

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our four star and I think Kenny Poola is like, right,

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there knocking on the door of a four star. He's

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at number ten, behind Mata Ali, Benjamin and Jared, his brother.

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Speaker 6: Yep and Ken just actually moved out to a four

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star in twenty four to SEVENS rankings on Wednesday himself.

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So again, it's a very strong year in state, a

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lot of really good talent and a.

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Speaker 5: Lot of different positions too.

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Speaker 6: I think that's what's probably you know, you and I

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have talked about for years, where it's not just lineman.

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Obviously there are skill position players. There are players everywhere

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outside the trenches that are worth recruiting. But then you

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still got the guys that are in the trenches that

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are worth recruiting. So it's very across the board positionally.

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I think in Utah in this class, when.

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Speaker 4: You look at the commitment, Celessi Moa is at Tennessee

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or he's going to be. He committed to Tennessee, Broadcrris Babma,

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Lutalo to b YU, Trading Bezinger, Iowa, Easton, Tufa, Sson

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Topflexcuse me usc Heleiman Casuga Texas A and m Lopetti

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uh is at b YU and then Jared, Matali and

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Kennon all going to Utah, Tayden right outside the top ten,

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Titan Kaawa, Alabama, then Legend Adam Bywater, Graham Livingston all

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to b Yu Kai Meza Cal A nice mix of

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of of of different teams, different uh, different positions.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty diversified.

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Speaker 6: Well, and that's four different power for conferences, he said,

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you know with Kai going to Cal, that gives him

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the acc You've got the two SEC quarterbacks. I mean,

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when was the last time that the state of Utah

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had two quarter up two players maybe going to the SEC,

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let alone two quarterbacks going to the se see two

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top ten teams. I mean a week ago that was

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the number three and the number four teams in the

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country and their quarterback commits came from Utah. And that

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doesn't even take into account you know, arguably the best

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quarterback in Utah, who's going to Iowa to the big ten.

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So yeah, I mean how often does Iowa dip their

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toes into the water into the state of Utah. And

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so that's what's probably the most impressive thing is that

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the geographical diversity the recruiting classes in the twenty twenty

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sixth class and then you still have Utah and BYU

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getting there the line share of the in state kids,

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and then Utah State there's a couple of kids good

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on that list that Utah States getting that are really

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impressive pickups too. So I think that again just speaks

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to the ability and the talent of the state of

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Utah and the depth of the state as well.

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Speaker 4: Who's the most underrated UH in this class? Do you

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think in twenty twenty six, is there a most underrated

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prospect in this class?

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Speaker 6: Then? You know I have this everybody's properly rated, right,

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nobody's one.

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Speaker 2: Everyone, No, But if.

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Speaker 6: There's a guy that I would say, you know, has

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probably played out played his ranking, it's probably two of

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the kids that are. I mean Kawa Akana and Isa Gailier,

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you know, going to b Yu and Utah respectively. I

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think what they've done in the last two weeks especially,

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I was at the like I said, I was at

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the game against Rocky Mountain and Issa had a kickoff

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return for a touchdown. I think he did that yesterday

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as well in the state championship game. He scored the

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first touchdown for aorum last week. And then Kaway, you know,

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he had some health issues earlier in the season. It

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took him a while to get going, but when he did,

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he had over one hundred yards receiving four orum last week.

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So those are two guys.

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Speaker 5: That I think, you know, definitely could have been in the.

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Speaker 6: Conversation for four stars as well with the double digit

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guys already in the state. And those are two guys

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that I think, you know, b Yu and Utah got

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to be giddy that they're getting, you know, to come

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in and being that they could be rated higher, which

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could make you know, some of those guys in this

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day and age cost them a little bit more. But

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two guys that I think you know have a great

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chance about playing where they're when they get to college.

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Speaker 4: How would you grade by us pickups in the state

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comparative to other schools that are recruiting against them right now?

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean it's fantastic because you can get a

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state class, and I think you know, to get those

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versatility that Adam Bywater has, you know, that's big with

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a with a kawe. You know, his positional versatility. He

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really good receiver. He even kicks. I mean, you're getting

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guys at different positions of needs, and I think that

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that's what you know makes it so well. It's not

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like you're just focusing on one position and you're getting

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all the best linemen in state. You know, you're getting

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a good player at this position, a good player at

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this position. Now you go to the other side of

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a good player at that spot. And that's what you

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Speaker 5: I think that's something.

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Speaker 6: That you know BYU and Utah have done such a

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good job over the last decade of really keeping those

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top kids in state. And yeah, you know you lose

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a kid likes Ce. Let's say to Tennessee, and it's

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understandable you're not going to keep every kid, especially if

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you look at California. How many kids from California lead

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the state altogether. I think Bye in Utah of all

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the states in the western part of the country, do

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the best job of keeping the local kids home when

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the sport's never been more transient than it is right now.

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Speaker 4: Do you feel like there's any flips that could occur?

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of these prospects that are in the top twenty that

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are currently committed to certain schools they flip to an

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean PJ Taki Talkie is probably going to

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end up at Utah when it's all said and done.

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did de commit I S so I wouldn't necessarily call

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him a flip, even though he may end up at Utah.

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see flips, it'll be like the Matadi Benjamins where they're

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committed to a school outside the region and then decide

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at the end of the day, I want to stay

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closer to home. But the one that I would say

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keep an eye on the most right now would be

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Eastern Tasa. And that's mostly because I know, you know,

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he has been pursued by both Uyu and Utah despite

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his commity USC after he had decommitted from Washington. He's

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the one that I still taught all the way up

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until signing day that one's not a done deal for USC.

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I know USC is fighting like tooth and nail to

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hold on to him, But he would be the one

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that I would say circle, just because I know how

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hard BYU and Utah are trying to get him to

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stay in state. And you know, with the success that

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he's had at Corner Canyon the last couple of years,

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and obviously Corner Canyon's had quite a few players that are.

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Speaker 5: Choosing to leave the region.

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Speaker 6: But with Eastern, I could see, you know, the closer

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gets the signing day, the more the the heartstrings could

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help BYU in Utah, but USC is definitely worth the

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you know, putting up a fight to keep him.

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Speaker 4: What do you make of players who are committed elsewhere

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wearing a different schools football gloves like a.

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Speaker 2: Lot it was made of. I don't know if you saw.

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Speaker 6: There's Oh I thought, believe me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jari knet we're online, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Jeri knned Pula, we're wearing BYU gloves. And so look,

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there's been buzz around the Poola twins for a long time.

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And and they were at they were committed to UCLA,

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they decommit, they commit to Utah. Are they are they

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still getting recruited right now? Are they still maybe open

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for business? Is Brett Yormark likes to say.

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Speaker 6: In twenty twenty five, nothing is done even when the

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papers are signed. You know, we thought last year with

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guys that were committed to a school and signed with

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the school and ultimately ended up the way that it's

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so easy to transfer to get out of it. And

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they're no longer signing national lewners of intent. They're citing

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intent to enrolls. It's so much easier to get out

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of those than the old days. So I've always believed

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the subscribe to the adage, watch what they do, not

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what they say, to let that be an indicator. By

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no means am I saying that people should read into

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the gloves. But it.

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Speaker 5: Definitely.

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Speaker 6: They're both committed to Utah, they're playing on the field

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at Utah and they're wearing the arch rivals gloves.

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe there is.

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Speaker 4: Did you raise your eyebrowsers will be like oh or

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is that right?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 6: Eh, you know, I mean, I'm used to I've been

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doing this long enough where I'm used to guys wearing

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gloves from one school, a you know, a skull cap

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from another school, a talis in the third school, and

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socks from before school. It's never Hey, I'm going to

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be committed to this school and I'm going to wear

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the gloves of their rival while I'm playing on the

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campus of the school I'm going to. That kind of

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added a little extra dimension of spice to it.

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Speaker 2: No doubt about it.

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Speaker 4: Brandon Hoffman two four seven Sports a Recruiting Insider covers

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all things on the around the country for two four seven.

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Speaker 2: What have you been writing about?

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Speaker 4: What are some of the features that we can find

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that you've written about over the last week.

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Speaker 5: Granted, yeah, it's actually been kind of fun.

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Speaker 6: You know, we're getting to that time of year where

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you're kind of trying to assess, you know, what is

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recruiting like in twenty twenty five. I just did a

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feature on Air Force and Troy Calhoun and how he's

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recruiting in twenty twenty five at a service academy in

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the era of the transfer portal and nil when they

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don't have that to offer. And then I just did

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a piece yesterday on Callan Stanford how Ron Rivera and

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Andrew luck leave the NFL to go back to their

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alma maters at a time where there's never been more

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of a need for oversight in leadership. Yet they're navigating

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a conference that they didn't play in or coaching when

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they were collegiate players and now see their school on

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the other side of the country and trying to make

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sense of where it's at. While one's trying to hold

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on to his quarterback that everybody in the country's going

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to want, and the other one's trying to hire a

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coach at his alma mater. So you know, we're getting

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to that.

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Speaker 5: Time of year where hey, we're dealing with the transfer.

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Speaker 6: Portal, well, dealing with NIO, We're dealing with guys signing

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and not necessarily signing because that's the best fit for

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what they do from a football standpoint. It's the best

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tit for what they do from a resources standpoint, And

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you know, with guys committing earlier and earlier in the year,

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we're still getting to that crazy season. We're like, hey,

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just because guys committed six months ago does not mean

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at all that they're sticking with that school. So we've

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got two weeks of craziness. We've got signing days, signing

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what four.

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Speaker 5: Days after the regular season.

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Speaker 6: Ends, and then you got the playoffs, So there's still

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plenty of content cranking out these days.

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Speaker 4: Last thing I got for your little rivalry talk as

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we were talking about the pool of twins, as by

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You now officially caught up to Utah. You tied a

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head start of over what thirteen years now in the

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power force. Status is by you officially caught up?

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Speaker 2: Do you think?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's fair to say that they're pretty

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even in how they're recruiting. And I think that, you know,

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Utah maybe doing a little bit more national recruiting than

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BYU does, just in terms of intentional targeting of guys

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in Texas and guys in Florida, which Utah has been

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doing for some time. But I think, you know, it's

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certainly fair to say that they're pretty even in their recruiting.

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It certainly was a stretch there where Utah just about

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god everybody they wanted in state, and then BYU has

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done a really good jug the last two or three

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classes of kind of turning the table. So I think

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that they're they're certainly on equal footing when it comes

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to recruiting. And I think it's, you know, just adding

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another dimension to a robbery that's so loving and caring

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towards each side.

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Speaker 4: Love it branded best way to support you. How you

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Speaker 4: Love it man, you do fantastic work. Love hearing from you.

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And oh you know what twenty twenty seven, Real quick,

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twenty twenty seven. How's the twenty twenty seven class shaping

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up for BYU?

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Speaker 2: Is it too early to talk? Twenty twenty seven?

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Speaker 6: Hey, I'll tell you what they had. Getting Utah at

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home this year was great for them. They had a

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huge recruit week. In that weekend they had trading Messenger

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who or sorry, guys, got Buddy Sparrow trading's the quarterback

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to twenty six. But Buddy Sparrow is there. Crew Jones

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who helped his team win a state championship yesterday there

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at Ridgeline. He was there so many of the twenty

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eights in class in the state.

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Speaker 5: It's a very good twenty seven and twenty.

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Speaker 6: Eight class in the state of Utah, and Yu had

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almost every one of those guys at their game against Utah.

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So to get that win against in state foe was

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certainly well. But we'll start to see the twenty sevens

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ramp up here in the next month or two.

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Speaker 4: Love it, Brandon, We salute you, We appreciate you always

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doing fantastic work.

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Speaker 6: Thanks a lot, Ban, We'll talk to you there.

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Speaker 2: Eight oh one three eight zero eight zero eight seven.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's get out to the hotline and welcome

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in Dan Horde, the voice of the Cincinnati Bearcats.

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Speaker 2: Dan, how you doing, Ben?

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Speaker 3: I'm great, Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 4: Hey, a pleasure of blessing to talk some ball with you.

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How would you describe the season of the Bearcats thus far?

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Speaker 1: Well, good but disappointing. The last couple of games they

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went from seven to one to seven and three. Last

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year they were five and two and didn't win another game.

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So they're trying to avoid another end of end of

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season swoon, at least this year with seven wins, they

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know they're going to a ball game, but I think

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this Saturday night they're determined to show, you know what

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We're more like the team that was seven and one

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than like the team that's dropped to in a row.

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Speaker 4: How would you describe the culture of the Cincinnati Bearcats

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locker room led by coach Scott Saderfield. You know how

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many years has he been there now and what type

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of culture has he built in order to keep this

511
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team on track?

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Speaker 1: Yeer three for Scott Sadderfield, and I would say the

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culture might be the biggest strength this team has, not

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just because of him, but because they have tremendous senior leadership.

515
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They have two three time captains, one on each side

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of the ball. That ties the all time Cincinnati record

517
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for most captainships Gavin Gerhart. They're starting center who's approaching

518
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fifty career starts.

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Speaker 3: He's a three year captain.

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Speaker 1: Their nose tackle, Dante the Godfather Corleone, one of the

521
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best nicknames in college football. He's a three time captain.

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So those two guys really lead the way. It's one

523
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of the biggest reasons why they have gone from a

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team that struggled in year one in the Big twelve

525
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two years ago to one that is at least still

526
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mathematically alive in the shot at going to the Big

527
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Twelve Championship game. They would need a lot of help

528
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to get there, and obviously they would need to win

529
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against BYU on Saturday night. But the simple fact that

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they're still in the hunt with two games left in

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the regular season is a good sign for where this

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program is going new coming.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me take a step back.

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati was once upon a time a power part of

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a power conference. They were relegated to non power conference.

536
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Now they're back into a power conference. We're looking at

537
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I remember when we were looking at the new Big twelve,

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it was Cincinnati, you know, BYU, UCF, these new kids

539
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on the block, et cetera. And if you look at

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the wins and losses and the impact that they'd had

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over the previous decade, they were very similar in resume.

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They quite honestly were some maybe had higher peaks than

543
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others at certain times, but they were all pretty similar.

544
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How do you feel that Cincinnati's made the transition comparative

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to their their their counterparts thus far into Big twelve.

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Speaker 1: Well, the tough part for Cincinnati is that they moved

547
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into the Big Twelve the same year that they had

548
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a coaching change. Had Luke Fickle stayed and not gone

549
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to Wisconsin where obviously he's had some hard times there,

550
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but he really had it going at Cincinnati. There would

551
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not have been such a big drop off when they

552
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moved to the Big Twelve. But when you ever have

553
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whenever you have a coaching change, and this day and

554
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age with a wide open transfer portal, it's really hard

555
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to keep guys on the roster, and that's what happened

556
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at Cincinnati. So they took a step backward. Now they're

557
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back on the climb. I'll say this, whatever league Cincinnati

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has been in in the past, within a relatively short

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period of time, they're one of the better teams.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's happening in the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 1: There's tremendous high school football in the state of Ohio.

562
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It's not California, it's not Texas, it's not Florida, but

563
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it's probably fourth on the list for the most talent

564
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in any state. So Cincinnati has that advantage when it

565
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comes to recruiting. And again, whatever league the Bearcats have

566
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been in, eventually they've become one of the better teams

567
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of the league, not necessarily the best. That's going to

568
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be hard in the Big Twelve to be the premier

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program in this league. But I do think Cincinnati is

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going to likely be one of the better teams consistently

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going forward.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh, you know Houston too. You know Houston,

573
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you know has done well. Uh, They've definitely had their

574
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ups and downs in the transition. But these new kids

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on the blocks that didn't necessarily have all the resources

576
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that the other programs have had for so long to

577
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create a new competitive and I think they're they're very competitive, right,

578
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They're they're they're good football programs and they're rising into

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prominence in the within the power structure.

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Okay, they're just going to say, with all, with all

582
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due respect to Houston, Houston does not have anything close

583
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to the history that Cincinnati has.

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Speaker 3: In college football.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: To their credit, they're having a good year under Willie Fritz,

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and Houston is in Texas, so there's a lot of

588
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talent there. But I do think the big difference between

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the two programs is that Houston, for whatever reason, just

590
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doesn't seem to have moved the needle in fan interest

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in Houston. If you look at their games now, there

592
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always seems to be a lot of empty seats at

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their games. Cincinnati was in the fourteen College Football Playoff

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four years ago. Yeah, so this program has been at

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a much higher level than Houston, certainly in the last

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ten to twenty years.

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Speaker 2: No, no doubt.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like I said, when I was evaluating these

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teams BYU Houston, UCF and Cincinnati from a total wins

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losses standpoint, they were pretty similar by resume when they

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were getting invited, is what I was getting at. In

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you know, since two thousand and six, you know, Houston's

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gone to a lot of bowl games. They've had you know,

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double digit win seasons. I think in they had a

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thirteen win season, a ten win season, ten win season

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to twelve when's they've been respectable, is what I'm getting

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That's why they got the invite. And so I think Cincinnati, though,

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was one of the favorites to be at the top

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of the food chain and make the biggest impact when

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they made the transition back to the Power Force structure.

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Speaker 2: And I think we're seeing that right now.

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Speaker 3: I would agree with that.

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati since two thousand and eight has played in the Orange, Sugar, Cotton,

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and Peach Bowls. As I mentioned, they qualified for the

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fourteen Playoff in twenty twenty one, the only team outside

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of the then Power five to do it. So this

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is a football program that has had its ups and downs,

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largely when they've had coaching changes, they take a little

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step back before they're good again. But if you go

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back to when Mark D'Antonio was the head coach in

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the mid two thousands, that's really when Cincinnati started to climb,

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and by and large, it's been a very successful program

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ever since.

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Speaker 4: How would you just the nil offering right now within

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the Cincinnati program and the resources that are being allocated

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to the athletic department in order to stay competitive in

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the modern era.

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Speaker 1: Certainly not at the top of a pyramid in the

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Big twelve, and that's going to be a challenge going forward.

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I don't know that Cincinnati will ever be one of

631
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the biggest spenders in the Big twelve, but they're spending enough.

632
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They've got really good players on the roster that they've

633
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been able to retain, and they just moved into a

634
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palatial football facility, the Shakeley Indoor Practice Facility. I've talked

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to a lot of NFL scouts that have come through

636
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Cincinnati since the building opened. They say it's the best

637
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they've been to so in this day and age, I

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don't know if that moves the needle as much as

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it once did back in the normal recruiting days, when

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it was about relationships and facilities and wins and losses

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and fan support. I think something like that would have

642
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made a gigantic difference. Number One thing seems to be

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nil in many instances, so you have to be competitive

644
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in that area, but every little bit helps. Then they

645
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do have a magnificent facility now to train, in practice,

646
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in hang out, in etc.

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Speaker 4: Do you feel I don't know how many active players

648
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Cincinnati has in the NFL, but I know they've done

649
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a pretty good job of developing NFL talent.

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Speaker 2: How does that outlook?

651
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Speaker 4: What's that perspective there on development and attracting NFL talent

652
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and putting them in the league.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's been really good.

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Speaker 1: So Travis Kelcey, Jason Kelcey before retired, Sauce Gardner. They've

655
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got some prominent players in the NFL that are among

656
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the best at their position.

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Speaker 3: If you go back to.

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Speaker 1: The I guess it was the twenty twenty season, twenty

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twenty one season, so the twenty twenty two draft, they

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had nine players selected. They were among the most of

661
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any team in college football that year, So that definitely helps.

662
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I think high school players, no, can you help me

663
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reach my ultimate goal and get to the NFL. And

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every time a Bearcat has success on Sunday, that helps.

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Speaker 2: No doubt about it.

666
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Speaker 4: Let's pivot over to this game by versus Cincinnati. BYU's

667
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three and zero against the Bearcats all time. But the

668
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Bearcats I think are built a little bit different than

669
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those three other teams that by you played in the past,

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and it's going to be a competitive one at Knippert Stadium.

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Give me a little breakdown of maybe the current health

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status of the Cincinnati Bearcats team and what they're looking

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to maybe execute on the field at home this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Getting healthier, that's the good news from Cincinnati's perspective. They

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have not had one of their two best running backs

676
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in the last two weeks, Evan Pryor. I think he

677
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is back on Saturday Night. They did not have their

678
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fastest wide receiver last week, Caleb Goodie, who's among the

679
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fastest in the country. He is definitely back on Saturday Night.

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I mentioned Dante Corleone early in this conversation he might

681
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be one of the best defensive tackles in the country,

682
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but he hurt his ankle in week two or three,

683
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I can't remember which, but he missed a few weeks

684
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and frankly has not been dominant for the most part since.

685
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But a couple of weeks ago he started to look

686
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better and feel better.

687
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Speaker 3: Then they had a bye.

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Speaker 1: He was even healthier last week, So I think there's

689
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a chance that Byu is going to have to deal

690
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with Dante Corleone at his most dominant, which would definitely

691
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help the Cincinnati defense. If you look at this team

692
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this year, it's been great on offense. It's been okay

693
00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:42,559
on defense, opportunistic on defense. They get stops in the

694
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red zone. They've got decent number of fumbles for us.

695
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They don't have as many interceptions as they would like.

696
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But the offense for the most part has been exceptional.

697
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Now last couple of weeks it hasn't been quite as good.

698
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Brendan Sorosby has thrown a few picks. Utah was able

699
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to get a lot of pressure on him in that

700
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game a few weeks ago. I'm sure Byu will try

701
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to on Saturday night, But for the season, it's been

702
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one of the better offensive teams in the country, certainly

703
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one of the most efficient.

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Speaker 4: It's led by a fantastic quarterback, a fantastic leader, a

705
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captain of men.

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Speaker 2: And what do you expect from him in this game?

707
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Speaker 4: Do you think he bounces back from these two losses

708
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and can lead the Bearcats to victory over the Cougar

709
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is a highly ranked b What U Cougar football team, Well.

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Speaker 1: It's certainly capable of it. Brendan Sorosby's had a great year.

711
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I think there was a stretch there where he was

712
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climbing on NFL draft boards to the point that maybe

713
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he was being considered as a Day two pick. I

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think his draft stock has taken a shot a bit

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over the last couple of weeks, and maybe that's good

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for Cincinnati because he does have a year of eligibility

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left and they would.

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Speaker 3: Love to have him back.

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Speaker 1: But he's a really good player, and he's a true

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dual thread quarterback, much like Bear Bachmeyer. He's capable of

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running and throwing. He's had exceptional games of doing either

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or both, and they're going to have to count on

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him to have a big game to have a chance

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against BYU.

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Speaker 3: It's an excellent opponent.

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Speaker 1: So Brendan Soresby can't have the type of game that

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he had last week where he threw a couple of

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bad picks. Do that against BYU and you're not going

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to win.

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Speaker 4: How would you evaluate and great out the trench warfare

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battles that Cincinnati has.

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Speaker 2: Been combating with.

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Speaker 4: Right, How good is this offensive defensive line for the Bearcats?

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Can they win the line of scrimmage versus the BWAYU Cougars.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the best offensive lines in the country.

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Cincinnati has only surrendered three sacks all year, and they

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faced some really good defensive lines in the Big Twelve,

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So that's one of the reasons why the offense has

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been so efficient. The offensive line is outstanding. The defensive

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line I would not describe as outstanding. It's solid. If

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Dante Corleone can be his dominant self like he was

742
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prior to the ankle injury, that would help a lot.

743
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I think they've got some decent players on the defensive line.

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Jalen Hunt is a decent player. Micah Coleman, coming back

745
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from an achilles injury, hasn't had a great year, but

746
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he looked great last week. He had two and a

747
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half tackles for loss in a sack. So they've got

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some decent players on the defensive line. But if you're

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comparing the two units, the offensive line as far as

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superior to the defensive line.

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Speaker 4: What would you say the weaknesses of this team if

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it has any I don't know if it has any

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glaring weaknesses.

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Speaker 1: I would say the most questionable unit on the team

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is probably the secondary, and I would say the cornerbacks

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in particular.

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Speaker 3: I don't want that to sound like they're bad. They're

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not bad.

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Speaker 1: But if you had to pick out one unit that

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you would say, all right, that's maybe the most questionable

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unit on the team.

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Speaker 3: I would probably start with the cornerbacks.

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Speaker 1: They've got good speed at the position, they don't have

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good size at the position, so that's been an issue

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at times. They've been flagged for a pretty high number

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of defensive pass interference or defensive holding penalties.

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Speaker 3: So again, not a glaring weakness.

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Speaker 1: I think they're okay there, but in comparison to the

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other position groups, that's probably the one that's been the

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most up and.

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Speaker 2: Down from a scouting report standpoint.

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Speaker 4: I know you've interacted with players and coaches this week.

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What have they said about this BYU team that's coming in,

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you know, to take on a Bearcats team that is

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maybe licking its wounds over the last two weeks.

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Speaker 1: I would say two things get brought up over and

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over again as I've talked to Cincinnati players and coaches.

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Number One, BYU doesn't beat itself, which I think is

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a real compliment when it comes out of the mouth

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of a coach in particular, coaches always always respect teams

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that you know, don't make the type of self inflicted

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wounds that cost you games, and BYU by and large

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has not done that. Secondly, everybody's talking about the physicality,

784
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so DYU has exceptional offensive and defensive lines. That's definitely

785
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a concern for Cincinnati in this game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's.

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Speaker 4: Something that I think BU has prided itself in not

788
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,960
turning the ball over and hopefully taking the ball away.

789
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The turnover margin battles have been the majority of them

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won by BYU this year. How has Cincinnati been at

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protecting the football this season and taking away the football?

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Speaker 1: For the most part this year, good at protecting it,

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not as good at taking it away, particularly when it

794
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comes to interceptions. They forced a good number of fumbles.

795
00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:52,119
Of course, there's always a little bit of luck involved

796
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there as to whether you're going to recover it or not.

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But for the past two years now, they just have

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not come up with enough interceptions. And since they play

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a three to three five defense most of the time,

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you've got the extra defensive back back there. Iowa State

801
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,480
kind of popularize this defense, and one of the reasons

802
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,960
why the Cyclones have been so good is that year

803
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,159
after year after year they turn it into a bunch

804
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of interceptions. Cincinnati has not been able to do that

805
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,039
so far this year, and they didn't do it last

806
00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:23,559
year either.

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Speaker 2: How do you see this game playing out?

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Speaker 4: You've seen a lot of Cincinnati football over the years.

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00:37:29,639 --> 00:37:32,599
You know this squad better than anybody. How do you

810
00:37:32,639 --> 00:37:34,440
see this game playing out at Nippert Stadium.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, I think one of the big steps

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that the Cincinnati football program is looking to take in

813
00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:46,800
year three under Scott Sadderfield is to win its biggest

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00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:52,239
home games. That's what premier elite programs do. When you

815
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get a good team on your home field, maybe even

816
00:37:55,159 --> 00:37:57,719
a team that's a little bit better than you are

817
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,400
in terms of talent, you find a way to win

818
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:06,239
those games. Cincinnati has approached that point. They beat Arizona

819
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,880
State last year when Arizona State won the league title.

820
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,280
That was at Nippert Stadium. They've got a home win

821
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over Iowa State this year when the Cyclones were still

822
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in the top twenty five. So they've had a few

823
00:38:16,159 --> 00:38:20,559
games like that, but they don't have one yet under

824
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:25,320
coach Satderfield. That would be like beating DYU on Saturday night,

825
00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:29,559
number eleven in the country, ahead of you on the

826
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the conference totem pole when it comes to the standings,

827
00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:34,840
a team that's got a ton to play for, much

828
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,400
like you do. That is the mission for Cincinnati on

829
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,519
Saturday night to try to win one of those gigantic

830
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home games. That tells everybody in the conference going into

831
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,960
Nippert Stadium is going to be difficult going forward.

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Speaker 4: One last thing before we let you go, appreciate you

833
00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:55,559
hopping on to discuss the Cincinnati Bearcats team and what

834
00:38:55,639 --> 00:38:58,559
it does well and what the environment also is going

835
00:38:58,639 --> 00:38:58,920
to be like.

836
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Speaker 2: They have two questions for before I let you go.

837
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 4: One of them is this The COLLG Football Playoff Committee

838
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,320
dropped their rankings and gave some respect to the big twelve,

839
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:14,079
I would say some respect because you know, you got

840
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:15,920
Texas Tech at the top of the food chain. BYU

841
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,400
said one lost team, and they justified keeping BYU out

842
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,840
of the top ten because they lost to Texas Tech,

843
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,519
a top five team, on the road at Lubbock, and

844
00:39:26,559 --> 00:39:29,239
it wasn't a competitive game, even though the scoring margin

845
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,480
was I think the smallest scoring margin twenty two points

846
00:39:33,519 --> 00:39:34,960
in their victories.

847
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: Thus far this season.

848
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 4: But Batmo jor Mark said, I am thrilled to see

849
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,440
the Big twelve conference getting the respected deserves. I said

850
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,880
a Big Twelve Football Media Days in July that we

851
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,039
would earn it on the field, and we continue to

852
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:46,400
do that.

853
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 2: Do you think the Big twelve is getting.

854
00:39:48,199 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 4: The respect it deserves as a powerful conference versus the

855
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Big Ten and the SEC.

856
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 3: No, not yet.

857
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: I think it is slowly moving in that direction, but

858
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,880
it doesn't happen over Let's face it, when Texas and

859
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,320
Oklahoma left, it hurt the reputation of the conference, fairly

860
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,079
or unfairly. Just to have two big name, blue blood

861
00:40:10,159 --> 00:40:13,639
type programs exit made everybody think, Wow, the.

862
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Speaker 3: Big twelve is not going to be as good going forward.

863
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:18,679
Speaker 1: I think it's every bit as good and Texas wasn't

864
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,960
winning league championships in this league anyway. For the last

865
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,599
several years, Oklahoma typically did, so it just takes time.

866
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,360
I do think that things are moving in the right

867
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direction for the conference in terms of the national reputation.

868
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,360
I do think that most people look at the Big

869
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,199
Twelve as the third best league, clearly ahead of the ACC.

870
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Speaker 3: So that's a good step.

871
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Speaker 1: But they're just going to have to continue to win

872
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,239
big games for people to think that they've closed the

873
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,840
gap on the Big ten of the SEC.

874
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Speaker 2: Great stuff.

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Speaker 4: Any recommendations for our fan base that's heading out to

876
00:40:56,559 --> 00:40:59,320
MIT Nippert Stadium and heading out to Cincinnati steak.

877
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: Well, sure you know when in Rome, right, So coming

878
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,760
to Cincinnati. Yeah, if you're coming to Cincinnati and you've

879
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,920
never tried Cincinnati style chili, you probably at least need

880
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,199
to try it now. Skyline Chili is the most famous franchise.

881
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,199
There are several different places in town that do this,

882
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:21,119
but if you're going to try it for the first time,

883
00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:24,480
you should probably try it at Skyline. This is not

884
00:41:24,639 --> 00:41:26,800
chili as it's thought of in most.

885
00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:27,079
Speaker 2: Of the world.

886
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: This is not coming a bowl with ground beef and

887
00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:33,239
kidney beans and kind of be somewhere, you know, closer

888
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,440
to a soup. This is something that is typically served

889
00:41:36,559 --> 00:41:40,960
on spaghetti, so it's like pasta sauce on top of

890
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:46,599
spaghetti with a giant mound of orange cheddar cheese. I

891
00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:50,920
know it sounds disgusting, but it's delicious. So that's one

892
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,760
thing that anybody coming from Utah to Cincinnati for the

893
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,800
first time should try. Secondly, we have a famous local

894
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,400
ice cream maker, Greater's ice Scream, that is some of

895
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,280
the best ice cream in the world. Oprah has it

896
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,199
shipped to her every month. She gets the good black

897
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,000
raspberry chip ship to her month latees g. It's amazing,

898
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,719
So definitely try Greater's ice Cream. And if you're up

899
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,280
for it, Skyline Chilling.

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Speaker 4: Dan Horde, Ladies and gentlemen, the voice of the Cincinnati Bearcats.

901
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,280
It'll be a bear Bach Myer versus a bear Cat

902
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,800
bear down there in Cincinnati. We appreciate you hopping on

903
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,159
to preview it. Thanks so much, my pleasure, Thanks for

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having me on. All Right, there you have it, guys.

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