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five ESPN Baton Rouge. It is now nine o'clock on
a Tuesday morning. You know what that means. We catch
up with our guy Nick Underhill, New Orleans Dot Football. Nick,
It is always our pleasure. How you doing, sir? Doing fantastic?
You know, I was thinking about this last night and
I was like, all right, well, you know, whe are
some things that we want to make sure that we
hit with Nick. And it's like we always just kind
of it's quarterback situation. Anytime you have a quarterback, it's
always going to be the leader in the clubhouse. And
we've talked about a lot of other positions, you know,
I was like, you know, we hadn't talked a lot
about is the guy that took ninth overall in Kelvin
Banks Junior.
Speaker 4: Right, We've talked about.
Speaker 2: Pinning, maybe moving to guard and we've talked about some
of the shuffling on the offensive line. We haven't talked
a lot about a top ten player and an offensive
tackle that we've talked about for a long time, but
we hadn't talked about him since he's become a Saint, really,
So I just really wanted to open it up.
Speaker 4: And what have you seen from him?
Speaker 2: What are you expecting from him after his first couple
days in the Saints uniform?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I guess in all of our defense, like,
we haven't talked about him a lot because they didn't
do anything at all in these practices with an offensive
line on the tail.
Speaker 6: So it's just kind of it's kind.
Speaker 5: Of easy to fixate on the quarterback and forget about
the guy that's that's maybe arguably the most important player
on the team right now. Like I feel like if
Kelvin Banks hits, you have a foundational piece him and
Quaga together, you have your identity going forward and kind
of everything else can go wrong. And if you have that,
you still at least have something behind your hat on
and something to build around. And I you know, your identity,
all that stuff, and I'm I'm I'm optimistic about him.
I mean, I think he's incredibly smart. I think it's
hard to miss on a ot at nine now. Granted,
like the Saints have found ways to miss on picks
they shouldn't have missed on a lot over the years.
But I like him. I think he's smart. I think
he's picking things up.
Speaker 6: You know, you watch a movie.
Speaker 5: He looks athletic. I think he carries himself very maturely.
You know, he can you know, there's just some of
those guys that that can just really kind of explain
the game and talk about it and just it sounds
smart and it gives you confidence in him and and
all that stuff. I think he's one of them guys.
And I will be really surprised if he's not a
good player right away. But yeah, I mean that that's
everything for them. If if Kuaga can take you know,
a little bit of a step next year. I do
think that maybe some of his struggles last year got
overlooked a bit because there was just, you know, an
absolute disaster all the way around him.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: I think there's just some stuff that he can do
a little bit better. But yeah, those two guys hit man, Like,
I feel okay about everything. Like shock cannot be good,
rattler cannot be good, like the defense whatever. But at
least like.
Speaker 6: You're you're looking back and you're saying, all right.
Speaker 5: Like two of the most expensive positions they've hit on,
and this is the foundation going forward. I think Banks
is going to be that type of guy, and I
expect him to be impact from from day one. I
don't expect to see a ton of struggles some I mean,
obviously he's he's young, but he looks a little bit more.
I don't know, it's.
Speaker 6: Tough to say that, but like you know, just kind
of the way he.
Speaker 5: Carries himself, like he's coming in with like a little
bit more maturity than some of their other first round
picks that that we've seen in recent years.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And the person that they're going to be paving
the way for blocking for we haven't talked to you
a lot about him yet. It is Alvin Kamara. I mean,
a guy that's been, you know, such a high performer
for so long. I mean, the guy's going to be
absolute ancient this year, is gonna be turning thirty before
the season starts. Tell me how you've seen how you
and you see him playing out in this Kelimore offense.
Of course, we saw what he did with uh Saquon
Barkley last year, you know, reviving his career. Of course,
a different type player than Kamara. But how do you
see him fitting in and what can we expect fro him?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean first like him being thirty, obviously that's tough.
I kind of have faith and how he's gonna how
he's gonna age one day, it's just gonna happen and hit.
But I spent a week with him last year just
at his house, like where he gets all his his
work done and he brings in his team of people.
Speaker 6: And all that.
Speaker 5: And I'm not exaggerating when I say that, Like he
was on this this table just getting worked on literally
for eight hours a day, like just on a table,
people working on him doing stuff. Like he takes incredible
care of his body. And you know, I think that's
gonna help him. What's not gonna help him is if
he has as many touches as.
Speaker 6: He did last year.
Speaker 5: I think, you know, if there's anything to be concerned about,
it's it's that he had a career high in touches.
I hope that there is another option at that position
like someone someone that that you know is worthy. It
carries because I think you got to ramp that number
down a little bit and you know, you know, I
think you they put team first all that stuff.
Speaker 6: But like I do think keeping him, you know, upright
and going for this year next year.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's he's a core piece of you know,
a rebuilding team.
Speaker 6: You got him under.
Speaker 5: Contract, he isn't going anywhere.
Speaker 6: Like, he's a guy that you want.
Speaker 5: Around, like helping you set your culture in and making
sure that you know, this is a guy that some
of these young players can look at as they're doing
this rebuild. He's kind of the last bridge to the
past of you know, the old way of doing things
to the new way. But I think he's going to
be good to go. Man. Like the thing with him
after twenty like.
Speaker 6: The big issue.
Speaker 5: You look, his yards before contact remained the same basically
every single year. It's just the kind deteriorated. And then
you know he's not getting those yards before contact. He's
getting hit quicker. You know, you go from four point
three to three point nine because that yards before contact
has dropped you know, three times to the yard and
there's the difference like right there. If they can keep
that up, like it went.
Speaker 6: Up a little bit last year.
Speaker 5: They started getting banged up on the line. You saw it, Dipagan.
I think as the line goes, he goes. And I
think if you give him a little bit of space
and that that first guy hitting him as a linebacker,
he still has that contact balance to bounce off those
people and make something happen. But if it's you know,
Jared Verse, like you're you're in trouble and you know,
I think, you know, as the line goes, he'll go,
and yeah, Banks Sauaga, I mean, that's that's the whole
idea behind putting Penning a guard is that he's gonna
be a baller and he's gonna get you those those
yards before contact, you know, in the run game, assuming
he fits or the pass pros. You know that that's
the big question. But if those guys are healthy and
they're blocking for him, I think he's gonna get every
single yard and more. He always has just kind of
you know, the line just hasn't been good the last
couple of years.
Speaker 2: Nick, If I was to throw it to the other side,
the defense side of the football, give me two players
the most important young defender on this team and the
most important VET on this team. As far as these
two guys need to show up if the Saints want
to be who they you know, expect to be new coordinator,
a lot of new pieces on defense.
Speaker 5: Man, I'm worried about the defense. I a big time
older players easy, older players easy. I think it's to
Mario the young guy.
Speaker 6: I don't know, Yeah, I like I kind.
Speaker 5: Of want to go wild card and say, like, if
Alante Taylor plays well, maybe they have a little bit
of a of a building block there. If it might
give him a guy that that's worthy of his second
contract like that, those would be two really good things
for them, you know, going forward. I think he has
the skill set to possibly be dynamic in the role
that they want him to play in. We've seen, you know,
Staley's done some really interesting stuff with guys playing that
nickel position. Jalen Ramsey moved inside for him, and with
the Rams he played really well there. Derwin James has
had success there before Alante went to the outside. There's
this stat it's like, I think it's called like the
chaos metric or whatever something the thirty third team puts together,
but it's like tackles for a loss, pass, breakup, sacked,
you know, just just a lot of you know, things that.
Speaker 6: Create havoc and a metric. And he was leading the
league in that stat and you know, he was getting a.
Speaker 5: Lot of stacks early on last year. I think if
he can play well there and they can keep him
in that role, like potentially he's a guy that I
think as legitimate outside kool Aid's another easy pick for
that one. But like the guy that I'm betting on,
young guy, I mean, I don't know, I think someone
needs to kind of emerge there at this point. There's
a lot of guys that it's like, if he's good,
it's a huge thing, Like Brian Berze. If he plays
better against the run the pair with the stack ability,
you kind of got a good player or there maybe
you know, right now he's kind of a liability on
first and second, so if that would change, that would
be huge for him. So, I mean, there's a lot
of guys that I think, like have potential, haven't met
it and could step up. But it's a little it's
bleak on that side until like some of those things
come into focus.
Speaker 2: Uh, Nick, as we all know, like when you select
somebody in the first three rounds, you expect a lot
from them. I'm not saying they have to be superstars,
but they got to give you something. Certainly, as a
second round pick, you got to be able to contribute.
You got to be able to be a guy that
you know can be a starter, that can be a
quality player on whichever side of the football. And so
you probably know, I'm going to Isaiah Foski. Is it
already just a punt on him?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Is that just Hey, he's gonna play some special teams,
he's gonna run out his rookie contract, and then that's
just going to be it. And the only reason you
don't cut him is because he's a second round pick?
Or is there anything that we can expect from him
on the defensive side, it.
Speaker 5: Looks like they're trying, you know, they're trying to see
if they can get him into, you know, some type
of useful role. He's getting a lot of run Oka's
in mini camp. I found myself baffled by this one,
like fortieth pick from Notre Dame, like real production, Like
it's just it's mystifying to me that that there's I
can see like not living up to potential, but where
is that just kind of makes no sense, Like this
isn't it. This isn't you know San Antonio or wherever
the hell you know they've gotten some of these other
guys from, Like this is a real a real player
from Notre Dame, like playing against real teams with you know,
real stacks against real opponents. And he was the record
the sack records that are at Notre Dame like that
that's supposed to mean something. I thought that was maybe
the safest pick they had made in years, and then
it just doesn't you know, you kind of saw a
little bit of like unrefinedness to his game when you
watched him, Like okay, but if he adds like this
or that, like maybe maybe there's something really good here.
But the floor on this blows my mind. Yeah, I
think he's at that that do or die point, like
you kind of got to see something or you let
him go. I think one of the things that might
stablem though, is if he doesn't live up the expectation
is like who's taking his job like that? That's kind
of the the issue on the defense, Like if it's
not am, like who else like they don't have anybody.
Speaker 6: At that position.
Speaker 5: They don't have you know, I don't really feel like
that they got the top end talent, they don't have
the depth. Like it's a tough it's a tough existence.
Speaker 6: Right now for them. So yeah, maybe, I mean, you know,
maybe maybe he's on the team, maybe he's not.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: But I'm not expecting anything from him though.
Speaker 6: I think I think, you know.
Speaker 5: The the idea of him putting it together is maybe
sailed a little bit for me, like I got to
see it. I'm not banking on anything from him at all.
Speaker 3: It's a good point he brings up. If you you're
down on a person and you're like, well, we need
to get him replaced, But like who you're replacing him
with is a question. You might as well stick with
a guy that you, at one point at least you
believe could do something. But Nick, you probably gave one
of the greatest answers ever heard when Jake generically asked
you about the defense and you said it's not great.
So Jacob and I don't know if he's told you
or not, but like we've kind of gotten into sports
cards recently, and we always kind of laugh because we're
always chasing these big hits, but we get so many
kool Aid the chemistry.
Speaker 2: I mean, so we have If kool Aid ends up
being like Ed Reid, we're both retiring.
Speaker 3: Lat kool Aid make a couple of Pro Bowls. Just
let him.
Speaker 4: I promise.
Speaker 3: We got the cards to back it up. But you
talk about from top to bottom on the defense, how
it's right now, you know it's figuring a lot of
stuff out. It's not great, but you can expect it.
When that happens. That happens in the NFL, it happens.
It happens at all. When that happens, and you can't
just out one on one teams, you can look for
you can look for a lot of exotic feast or
famine type game plans, type defenses and get really creative
with a lot of your game plan and try trying
to create confusion on the offensive side of the ball.
And I know, when OTAs in mini camp, it's really
kind of like they're not going to install a lot
of that stuff, but they probably would have already started
putting the foundation and pieces of that in place. Have
you seen anything on the defensive side of the ball
that would lead you to believe that we could get
to like a non traditional type of third down defense
or any non traditional types of defenses.
Speaker 5: I mean, there wasn't a lot like it was kind
of the base early on, and then by the end
of Mini camp, like we were starting to see you know,
a little bit of a little bit of dime, a
little bit of you know, nickel stuff. And I think
within that, like you saw a little you know show
show to rotate in the in the you know, cover three, Like,
it wasn't a ton of stuff that that you're kind
of dissecting and being like, oh man, that was crazy.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: I think they were kind of you know, hitting the
tip of the iceberg on some of that stuff.
Speaker 6: But like, really, when you do go back and look.
Speaker 5: At Staley though throughout you know, time and throughout the years,
I think that is kind of the hallmark of what
he does on defense. And you know, Da did a
lot of it too. He was kind of you know,
at the forefront of bringing some of those simulated pressures
and stuff into the league. But I think everyone caught
up and then started to buy a little bit at
the end. Yeah, So I think I think Stately, you know, yeah,
I think we're definitely gonna see some of that stuff though,
And I think that really is kind of what they're
all about. And you know, they really really do a
good job of holding those shelves, like right until the
very end and then sometimes even beyond the staff and
when they're even you know, first down, they do some
of that. And they don't like to put that extra
guy in the box.
Speaker 6: They like to.
Speaker 5: Bring that guy like from anywhere like it, and you know,
sometimes it leaves them a little bit vulnerable to allowing
a big explosive run, but sometimes like they're killing people
with it too, and I think that was one of
the things that maybe got them in trouble a little
bit at the end and with the chargers.
Speaker 6: But you know, you clean that up a little bit,
you get a little.
Speaker 5: Bit more calculated. You know, I think that there is
benefit to it. And when you're watching, it's just like
one of those things, it's like, man, why why don't
more people do this?
Speaker 6: You know, then.
Speaker 5: It's a little bit of feast or famine.
Speaker 6: But like when you have a team like this that's
maybe a little.
Speaker 5: Bit deficient on talent, like maybe leading into you know,
some of that risk is a calculated thing that you
might have to do, you know, as you were saying,
so it would make a lot of sense. But I
do think that is kind of the the identity of
him in general is kind of, you know, that master
of dis guise, trying to dress things up, making it
look a little bit different. And you know, I think
that's one thing I like about the staff too, though,
is that it's a lot of younger guys that kind
of live on the Internet and they're you know, not
afraid to tell you that, Hey, I was watching a
high school football clip and we liked what we did here,
and we're bringing this in like that's stuff that they're doing.
They're searching for new ideas. So I would be surprised
if if things look static and if there aren't times
where you're watching you're like, damn, where the hell did
that come from? I think that's going to be part
of their identity.
Speaker 2: Look, I can fully get behind that because I can
tell you, as an eight U flag football offensive coordinator,
Nick I scour the internet looking for new plays and
new ways to get the ball to playmakers, and I
am a okay with it.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean, there's just so many like good accounts to
like Casey Caseyible Yeah, man, Like they're just like they're
out there and there's just something that I get the
email every day from from uh Dan Casey, uh the
match quarters guy. Like there's just a Cody Alexander that
there's a ton of them out there that that just
kind of a posting stuff all day long. And I,
you know, I think that's that's where this staff kind
of lives and exists, and uh, you know, it's kind
of it's kind of interesting. Like kellm moore actually brought
Dan Casey out I think one time to the Chargers
like for training camp.
Speaker 6: I think he was out there in the there like meeting.
Speaker 5: Rooms just because he liked the stuff that they he
does online. So it's a curious bunch of people that
that I think are going to constantly be looking for
new ideas.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, I forgot Flinn. Let you know, uh Flynn
hates quarters like he can't.
Speaker 3: Stand because as a quarterback, I loved it, right.
Speaker 2: I hate when my cheer for so a couple of
years go when Matt House at LSU was like.
Speaker 3: Remember when j quorters every time we got the ball, Yeah,
we played quarters every time they got the ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say there's a lot of quarter beaters
out there that are pretty uh, pretty easy to find.
Speaker 4: But you'll learn how. You'll learn that about Flynn.
Speaker 2: If if we talk quarters defense, he is going to
just leave the conversation.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean everyone did kind of overdose on it.
Speaker 3: For a while. He did.
Speaker 4: It was like it was like a safe play. Nick.
Speaker 2: It's like when everybody like didn't know what to do
or they were trying to like, Okay, let's get punched
a little bit and we'll just kind of get our
feel of the game.
Speaker 4: It's like quarters, that's what we're gonna play.
Speaker 3: We always have like game plans with quarter checks. Like
if the quarterbacks saw quarters, like he was free to
change the play to the quarterbater. It usually worked.
Speaker 4: Ye there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So all right he is Nick Underhill, New Orleans
Dot Football. Nobody does it better go check out the side.
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Speaker 4: Nick. We appreciate it. Sarah. We'll catch up again with
you next week.
Speaker 5: Yeah, take it easy, guys.
Speaker 4: When we come back.
Speaker 2: I know that half of this is radio half as visual,
but we'll try to give you a breakdown of why
quarters defense is so easy to kind of manipulate and
you kind of dictate what happens if you're the offense.
And again, I'm gonna throw this to Flynn to be
able to tell you the story on radio and visual.
Speaker 4: That's on him. I'm just the hust throwing it to him.
We'll be back breaking down quarters defense here on OTV.
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Speaker 2: That's what you call a radio pro transition right there,
a little bit of one. I'm pretty proud of you.
But we're talking professional football now because we just talked
about the Saints and quarters defense. Okay, yep, so we're
gonna break this down. So Matt hates quarters defense. A
lot of people run that now and you hear people
talk about it, and it is a safe defense. It
is something that if the defensive coordinator again, like if
he's trying to kind of figure things out and see
how everything kind of plays out early in the game,
certainly this is going to be what they throw out
there because it is a keep everything kind of in
front of you type defense. It's a safe defense, but
there are certainly ways to not keep everything in front
of you if you're an offense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's it's always been popular. It's one
of the oldest, like besides like Manda Man like one
of the.
Speaker 2: Oldest, right, But when we were playing in the NFL Like,
not a lot of people are running this.
Speaker 3: It kind of depends on who the coordinator, what's your
team was skill set a lot in the West. Let
me take you so, quarters is something you're going to
see a lot in high school, right, You're going to
see it a lot in middle school high school because
it is designed to stop both the run and the pass.
So in theory, it's designed to stop it's too high safety,
so we all think of like, too high safety, it's
better to run, so you get too safty gives you
four dbs across the top. So you're splitting the defense
into quarters here, So the corner the corners have the
outside quarters, the safeties have the inside quarters. You're cutting
the field into basically a high right yep. But it
also puts your safeties at about ten to twelve yards
from a line of scrimmage, so they also can help
run support. So they read through the quarterback and watch
for the run first and then react to real to
the pass. So the reason why it is such a
great defenses for offenses a scheme is really the what
the two safeties are taught to do. So we got
a two by two two bout two offensive formation here.
So what they do if they know it's a pass,
they're always they have their eyes to the backfield. So
if it's if it's a handoff, they they get to
react up because quarters is you know, like said, it's
meant to be able to assist with the running game,
which is different than like a cover two halves kind
of look. So if it is a pass, what this
safety does right here, he's watching number two. The number
two receivers are slot, so we count from the outside,
so number one is the outside receiver, too, is the
inside receiver if number two goes inside. So if he
decides to run a drag across the field or a
post route, or if he goes inside at all, number
two takes them. Okay, If he goes up the field,
he takes them, yeah, all right. If he goes across
the field short, okay, the safety then turns a double
number one. So if he passes his guy off number two,
if he passes them off, he turns a double number one.
The problem is is if number two goes vertical, the
safety has to take them because this, uh, this linebacker
right here, you got it. We got an s linebacker here.
Whatever this is. But it's the sam line back, so
he's not going to carry him down the field. He's
gonna If number two goes vertical, the safety is gonna
take him down the field. So this is why it
is so so susceptible to a deep ball. All you
gotta do is run number two across the field to
the inside deep into the middle of the field, and
he has to take him, which sets your which sets
the cornerback one on one with the re So every
time when I talk about like checks that you want
in quarters, like a quarter's check, it has to do
with some sort of post drop. A lot of people
also run like a post with a corner. Here, it's
really hard to pass that off. Safety's corners have to
be really good at passing a post or a corner off,
or they have to play it like man. Usually they
get screwed up.
Speaker 2: What's another two man route combination that you like against quarters?
Speaker 3: Now, anything that depends on the weakness personnel wise, I
mean as simple go with an out route from number
two is easy, especially if you get a linebacker matched
up on a wide receiver.
Speaker 2: Uh Now, number two has to get across the corner's
face still, because even though he's dropping like you don't
want him to be able to break it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's this corner will so especially if if this
number two is pushing up. Yeah, this safety is never
going to double number one. So the cornerback has.
Speaker 4: To Yeah, he's on buy, so he's gonna out.
Speaker 3: He will Number one is gonna outside release, attack his
outside shoulder. He's gonna clear number one out. The corner
will never unless he just screws up. He will never
drop off and undercut this out roud. That's what cover
twos for. So in a two by two set, you'll
see quarters. If he goes a three by one set,
let's take let's see it. Say the Z guy comes
over here to this side of the field. Most teams
should not say they do. They should check out at quarters.
They will usually check out a quarters and go to
some sort of three week or they'll call cover two.
A lot of people would call that like a banjo
chag that there's different names for it. You're laughing because
you heard it. You safety, You're like, hey, come on, man,
So it's like, so you can you can screw teams up.
That's why the use of motion is such a big deal,
because if you know that it's like a banjo team.
It's like, all right, we're gonna start in two by two,
we're gonna run to a three by one, and then
we're gonna run back to two by two and they're
having to change boom, boom, boom, a lot of stuff.
A lot of the wheels are turning on the defense.
But yeah, this is one of the reasons why I
think with the first touchdown pass I threw in the
peach ball to Buster Davis was against quarters. We ran
a hitcher oute right here and he Buster Davis ran
like a fake in and go. Yeah. I mean it
is susceptible to so many deep plays. And oh yeah,
I forgot to mention, you're one on one on the
cornerback outside for quick hitches hinge routes, because they're they're
taught to get back. They're taught to get back. Yeah,
so it is one on one outside. So yeah, there
you go. Here's a breakdown.
Speaker 2: Well done there, Matthew. And throughout the football season we
are going.
Speaker 4: To have film. We're going to break down plays offensive lead.
Speaker 3: We're gonna really nerd out, Yes.
Speaker 4: Yes we are.
Speaker 2: And then once we had the film, obviously it's gonna
be you know, your favorite Tigers and we'll talk about it.
We've done this before with Flynn, gonna do more of that.
And as Taylor puts up there, it's kind of a
diagram and different zones that everybody has in that certain deal.
Speaker 3: We're gonna see how this like really translates to just
just the radio if we can teach it well enough
to paint the picture.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we want you to be at the water cooler
on Monday morning saying did you see the quarter quarter?
Speaker 4: Hass you see that? Said they were playing I don't
really love that.
Speaker 3: What was a curl flat defender doing on that coverage?
Speaker 4: Exactly?
Speaker 2: You were going to sound like the smartest guy in
the room and you're gonna know exactly what you're talking
about there.
Speaker 4: So nice job there, Matthew.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of bad routes against quarters too, and.
Speaker 4: We're gonna talk about the good stuff.
Speaker 3: I want to talk about the good stuff. Yeah, if
you don't want to learn football this season.
Speaker 4: Garrett Nesmeyer would love to see quarters defense in the
first game.
Speaker 3: Put it that way. I'm telling you, your eyes light
up as a quarterback, especially in an offensive coordinator, your
eyes light.
Speaker 4: Up I'm gonna look up what Clemson stop coverage was.
Speaker 3: Hopefully it's quarters.
Speaker 4: I hope it is too. More OTV when we come
back here one O four five ESPN.
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Speaker 2: Are welcome back OTV Flann good question from Bilbo Baggins
inside the Bay four chat.
Speaker 4: His quarters coverage always a four man front.
Speaker 3: Oh good question. No, no, no, no, you can run most
any coverage with any type of front. We kind of
put this uh picture on here because it's like the
most generic, you know, four linebackers, a base defense, three linebackers,
four down linemen, four DB's. That's like the basic look.
Now from this, you can get people in these positions
in multiple different ways. There's endless amounts of ways. Some
are more dangers than others. You can you can walk
around the defensive lineman. You could play it out a nickel.
You can play it a dime. You can play it
out of quarters. So to break that down nickels as
five dyb's dime is sixty b's. Yeah, and we call
it nickel personnel, it would be sevent DB's. So you
can play it in all sorts of different ways. You
can fire zone blitz it, which means you're bringing pressure,
so you bring you bring a blitz. Usually a fire
zone blitz is a five person blitz. If you bring
two linebackers, I mean you're dropping a defensive end and
usually you're dropping a defensive end to take the responsibility
of what a linebacker would usually be doing.
Speaker 2: Ye when you see what those defensiveands get an interception, like,
how did the quarterback not seem that's the situation you're talking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, usually it's impossible to see. You can based on
film preparation, you can kind of get the thought process
in your head that there might be a defensive line
dropping into the zone because of the pre stnet look
and which backers came. And you can't do fire zone
pressures on every cover, so if you like see man demand,
usually there's not a defensive lineman dropping. But yeah, it's
a good question because everything starts with like the basic
high school quarters cover two, cover three man demand schematics,
and then after that. That's why the great defensive coordinators
they come up with all these creative ways based on
what the offense is doing to get to those same spots.
Just create confusion along the way, and you're creating confusion
so you can get pressure on the quarterback because you're
not only confusing the quarterback what he's seeing, but you're
confusing the offensive lineman in pass protection and the running
back in pass protection.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many different ways you can manipulate coverages.
You can show the quarterback different looks and you can
you know, get him to change his play and then
you're you know, doing it just so he changes out
of his play even though you run the same coverage.
There's so many different games that you can play. We
always talk about double am right with the linebackers, like
that is hell on the quarterback. It's held on the
running back as well, because they're gonna play games and
we're gonna declare the mic one way and I've got
to go across the formation to pick up the other backer. Well,
that backer is going to drop at the last minute.
Here comes somebody else from the other side. I've already
committed to that linebacker because if I don't, he's going
to sack the quarterback.
Speaker 4: So those are things that will break down.
Speaker 3: We're gonna break down. We'll do another we'll do the
film session break down some double A gaps. But right
now I really want to give the people what they want.
I want to go back and run it back and
talk a little golf.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you did have some I want to talk about.
Speaker 3: This year. We got the Ryder Cup coming, which is
the most electric, one of the most electric, in my opinion,
sporting events out there, because it only happens every couple
of years. It is USA versus Europe. And there's a
lot of talk this week about it because of what
happened this past weekend with Keegan Bradley at the Travelers Championship.
Keek and Bradley, who is was named a year and
a half ago, believe as the captain for the USA
this year in the twenty twenty five Ryder Cup, which
it's back in the USA. It was in Rome, Italy
two years ago, so this year it's UT's see September
twenty fifth at Bethpage Black in New York, which is
a historic course, so the Ryder Cup will be there.
And for those of you who don't know, it's twelve
people from the US twelve people from Europe. And while
it's kind of in the news this week is Keegan Bradley,
who is the captain, controversially got left off the team
that went to Rome two years ago, Zach Thomas was
he was the captain at that point. And what happens
with picking the teams is there six automatic qualifiers based
on points, so the top six guys for USA, top
six guys for Europe in the points based on tournaments
and majors are automatically in, and then there's six captains picks.
The captain can choose whoever he wants. Yep. So Keegan
Bradley had won this Travelers Championship a couple of years
ago and was on that bubble. There's about three four
guys on that bubble. Zach ended up choosing Justin Thomas
over Keegan Bradley, who had traditionally he was called like captain,
a mayor. He was like a ryder cup dude. He
always showed out. He's been a great player from a
long time. But he had he wasn't having the season
and he's had he had a he was having a
bad season leaning up to that point, so he kind
of went and he chose him over Keegan. What's a
little bit controversial, and the only reason it is controversial
is because of the Netflix documentary Full Swing. So this
year he's in the same spot he just won this tournament.
I think he is ranked keegan now as the captain
is ranked ninth. So again it's a twelve man team.
So he's got this unique opportunity now to be a
player captain, so to be the captain of the team,
which is usually you know, not like an old old player,
but like an older player that's kind of passed his prime,
who isn't in threat of actually being a player we
haven't had like in the modern an air of golf,
there's never been on either team be a player captain.
I think the last one was nineteen sixty three, a
man by the name of Arnold Palmer. Ever heard of him?
They made a drink after him. Yeah, he was the captain,
the player captain in nineteen sixty three. Since it hadn't
been I think there was a European one. I don't
even remember his name was, like in the fifties. So
this is a crazy situation. Automatic qualifiers currently Scotti Scheffler,
of course was badass man on the planet with a
golf globe his hand. Xander Schoffle jj Spahn just recently
won the US Russell Henley Bryson, d Chambeau and Justin
Thomas r right now in the top six, Keik and
Bradley sitting at nine. So it's gonna be fun to
watch that again into September. Ryder Cup USA Europe. They
absolutely destroyed us in Rome two years ago, so we
got to come to fin our homeland. Have you seen
Have you watched the Ryder Cup before four?
Speaker 2: I have because I remember it when House, who's from Shreveport,
was the captain. Like, I remember it being a huge,
huge deal, like in the city and everybody talked about
it for weeks leading.
Speaker 4: Up to it.
Speaker 2: It was on the news and the paper every single day.
So absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 3: Well it's one of the the golf tournaments always. You know,
golf is about you know, respect, quiet please, like, let's
golf clap, let's show some respect. Not at the Ryder Cup.
The Rider Cup is wear your American flag pants, go
out there, scream as loud as you can. I think
justin Thomas and I think it was Jordan Spieth the
last time it was in America. It might have been
whistling straits. Can't remember, uh, but you know they go
out to the first tea box holding beers, pumping up
the crowd, O God, and they're chugging beers like it's
it's a rowdy environment. Yeah, you never in golf. You also,
it's like the courtesy. You don't cheer against other people,
but people are. I mean, it is a home it
is a true home field advantage situation. You're actively booing, cheering,
uh booing other the other team booing Europe. When they
hit something good but and they miss up like a
two foot putt, the whole crowd goes crazy. And that
you don't ever see that in golf, which is which
that is one unique and I haven't been. It is
absolutely my bucket list. Are you gonna win, Oh, we're
gonna win. We're gonna dominate. I mean we got Scotti Scheffler, who,
like I said, is the most dangerous guy in the world.
I mean I think.
Speaker 2: He he's like he's like minus odds for every golf turam.
You know how hard that is to get minus odds
in a golf tournament to win it.
Speaker 3: It just doesn't matter what he does in a tournament,
Like he just doesn't ever make mistakes. Even when he
makes mistakes. Even this past two weeks ago at the
at the US Open, it was he made a triple
bogie on the whole one on a Saturday. He was
I think he was close to the lead triple bogie,
which usually is not gonna knock everybody out. Well, he
came back and he finished three off the lead. Like
he's just always there, always there, always there. I mean,
God knows what the odds are for taking Scotti Scheffler
like to finish in the top ten every tournament.
Speaker 2: It's probably like minus three thousand. Yeah, if you're getting
again minus.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think it's minus. I think he's
I think he got.
Speaker 4: The last tournament and he was like minus one thirty.
Speaker 3: To win it. I think he was like plus two
twenty or something, which is the lowest odds to win
a golf tournament or a major since like Tiger Woods
and like go six or something like that.
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Speaker 1: Jess shot from the locker room to the airwaves, gets
off the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in, ask the bench here to
close it out, and asked the bench, should Lewis come
to the tailgate?
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, why not? Absolutely grievances my guy data,
let's go.
Speaker 4: Everybody's well, everybody's welcome.
Speaker 2: We got some do I mean, look, we can even
do an old school Oklahoma drill just to give you know,
some interaction at the tailgate too.
Speaker 3: For me, you gotta have something to talk about. I
was boring if everybody just like gets along.
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beef with a f R. You're turned to punch back.
We're gonna check the tape.
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that Flynn sent coach Jay Johnson, if he took credit
for it, We're gonna check it.
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T O T B. I mean it was like you
you almost got to push the buttons.
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pushed the button effort sent asked the bench favorite golf
course to play at I don't have one played.
Speaker 4: I played to Pines before Chargers golf team outing.
Speaker 3: That's such a tough question because there's bucket lists golf courses.
When I was in Wisconsin, Man, we had embarrassment of
riches up there. We had Blackwolf Run, What'sland Straight? You
had so many good golf courses that was like within
an hour and a half from green Bay, which is funny,
Like we would go out of town of green Bay
and we could play like those nice courses for free.
So if we tried to play at the fifteen dollars
public course in green Bay, we had to pay. Yeah,
son of guy, but no. I took a a golf
trip to Ireland, Southwest Ireland, and it was the best
golf experience I've ever.
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two and three?
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then Brown's gonna be your four. You've got some dudes
and they can play out a lot of different ways.
Favorite LSU baseball player of all time, Mine's easy. It's
Todd Walker. Todd was from the same area that I
was from. I knew his brother in law really well.
We were friends in high school and growing up. Always
proud of Todd Man being from three.
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Tommy Tanks. All right, there you go, Jordan.
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