Speaker 1: So we're going to keep going down the dark path
of Jean Lubernell, the modeling agencies and their connections with
Jeffrey Ebstein. Tonight, we're going to add another name to
the mix, and that name is Faith Kates. Faith Kates
is another big shot in the modeling industry, another person
who claims she had no idea who Jean Lupernell really
was or who Jeffrey Epstein was. In reality, we know
that's not the case. In reality, we know that all
of these people who had a deeper relationship with Epstein
and people like Brunel are all trying to distance themselves
from those relationships in hopes that they'll avoid the fallout. Well,
unfortunately for them, that's not going to be the case.
Every person who was involved in enabling Jeffrey Epstein's behavior,
every person who was involved in enabling Jean Luke Brunel's behavior,
needs to be questioned by the authorities, and Faith Kate's
happens to be one of those people as well. Tonight's
article is from The Daily Beast and the headline is
Jeffrey Epstein's modeling ties go much deeper than victorious secret.
The authors of this article are Emily Sugarman, Kate Brickolett,
and Lachlan Cartwright, and I highly suggest you check out
the work that The Daily Beast has done, because they
have done some fantastic work on this case. This article
was originally published on September seventh and updated on September
sixteenth of twenty nineteen. Jeffrey Epstein prayed on young women
with promises of modeling gigs for Victoria's Secret and access
to his high powered connections in the fashion world. For years,
the perverted multimillionaire faced accusations that he sexually abused underage
girls brought to him by Jean Luke Brunel, the owner
of the MC two meter modeling agency, who, according to
civil court filings, housed his models in Manhattan apartments owned
by Epstein. Brunell has denied these allegations, and we know
that that's bs. We know that Jeffrey Epstein was definitely
housing these girls. We know that Jeffrey Epstein most certainly
had this whole entire apartment building with all of these apartments,
so that he could do just that. But Epstein's ties
to the industry run deeper than previously reported. The financier
Pedophile regularly dropped by the New York offices dropped by
the New York offices of one of the Model of
Modeling's biggest agencies, Next Model Management, the sources familiar with
the business and lavish funds on charities connected to Next
co owner Faith Kates and her family. We know that
all of these people that were receiving money from Jeffrey Epstein,
all of these charities that were receiving money from Jeffrey Epstein,
all of these people have attempted to do the same
thing that Faith Kates has tried to do, and that
is distance themselves from the fallout and from Jeffrey Epstein.
But at the end of the day, when you look
at all of the evidence, and you look at this
case as a whole, and you start looking at the
individual relationships that these people had with Epstein and Brunel
and the people around Epstein, you start to understand what
sort of insanely complex environment this man was operating in.
Brunell owned a twenty five percent stake and Next with
his brother, according to previously unreported court dot com documents,
and when Brunell's relationship with Neck Soward, he and Epstein
tried to expand into deals with the renowned agency Elite Paris,
so Brunell not only had the connection obviously he owned
MC two, but he also was a twenty five percent
stake owner stakeholder within Next. As a high flying money
manager pedophile in the nineteen eighties, Epstein ran in the
same circles as much of the fashion elite. He dated
Ford Models star Eva Anderson, a former Swiss Suite, a
former Miss Sweden, and flew everyone from Naomi Campbell to
modelizing billionaire Ron Berkel on his private plane. Now Eva
Anderson is now married to Gwen Dubin. Obviously, Naomi Campbell
needs no introduction for anybody out there listening. And Ron
Berkele is a bag man for the Democratic Party, a
huge bundler, a guy who is very very connected to
the inner working of all the power players in the
Democratic Party. And Berkele is a huge and big friend
and supporter of Bill Clinton still to this day. According
to a former associate, he partied around the globe with
groups of playboys, including Brunell's Spectrum Models co owner James
Rowan and Fabrizio Lombardo, a close friend of Harvey Weinstein.
Oh does that shock anybody? We know that Harvey and
old Jeffrey were pals, and like I'm always saying, fellow travelers,
and all right, these people are all connected, They're all sick.
They were all rubbing elbows at their stupid ass so
called polite society hangouts and what you think they weren't
sitting there trading stories. They're disgusting ass, gross stories. Of
course they were. Everybody around these people knew just exactly
what they were up to. On Wednesday, the French newspaper
La Parisson reported that authorities in France or seeking Brunell
as part of their probe into Epstein, and that they
recently interviewed two women who say there were Brunell's victims
in the late nineteen seventies and early nineteen eighties. According
to police, Brunell was in Paris this summer before he
took off. He may be in Brazil. I mean, what
is this guy, James Bond? He just disappears and nobody
knows where he's at. I mean, come on, you have
to have serious resources to go on the lamb like this.
How come there's not an inner pole bulletin to bring
this man in? Why is he not considered an international
fugitive at this point. Who is protecting Jean Luke Brunel.
Less public, however, was Epstein's relationship with Next Model maker
Faith Kates. The sixty one year old Kates founded the
business in nineteen eighty nine and built it into one
of the most respected agencies in the industry. Her partners
at the time included Runel and Lorenzo Paedrini, a former
male model who appears in Epstein's Little Black Book of Contexts.
Spectrum Models co owner Joe Wilkinfield. Wilkinfeld later merged his
agency with Kate's butting shop. Look. Kate's needs to be
completely and utterly investigated for her ties to Jean Luke
Brunel and for her ties to Jeffrey Epstein. What was
her role? Was she involved in procuring girls? Did she know?
Why are these questions not being asked? Why are these
people not being subpoened? Through an attorney, Kate's denied any
business or financial relationship with Epstein. Her attorney said she
had seen him once or twice a year over the
last decade. Yeah, I'm sure that's the case. I mean,
Jeffrey Epstein was just giving money to her charities and
whatnot because they were hardly friends, right, Epstein wasn't expecting
anything in return. He's just such a generous man that
he decided he was going to dole some shots, some
fazzules out to everybody around him, because you know, what,
the hell every single time Epstein doled out money, every
time Epstein entered into one of these charitable givings, there
was always an ulterior motive, and people like Faith Kates
understood that. They accepted it, and they knew that at
some point a favor would be asked of them. Regarded
as a key player in the industry, Kate's built next
into an empire with offices around the globe. The agency
now represents musicians, actors, social media stars, with a portfolio
boasting beauties like Alexa Chung, petronem Kova, Miranda Kerr, Molly Simms,
and Millidjoviovic. Yeah, well, how many girls came through those doors,
ended up with Epstein and Jean Luke Brunel and then
ended up discarded and thrown away after they were considered
of no more use to those animals. Anyone want to
answer those questions? How about we talk about those girls.
The Long Island native is also known for her philanthropy,
especially with the Ovarian Cancer Research Fund. Of course she is.
All of them are involved in charity right, So inevitably,
when the shit starts rolling downhill and people start to
find out about her relationship with Epstein and her ties
to John Luke Brunell, she can fall back and say, hey,
I was never involved in that. Look at this charity
work I do with the Ovarian Cancer Research Fund. It's
such a shell game, and all of them use it
as a shield. They all use their charitable givings as
a shield. I'm so sick and tired of it. According
to one bio for Advertising Week, Kates has raised more
than thirty million dollars for ovarian cancer research, partially through
Super Saturday, an annual shopping fund RaSE in the Hamptons
that she invented with designer Donna Karen and the late
Harper's Bizarre editor Liz Telberis. Now, don't get me wrong,
Do not get me wrong. Charity work is a very
noble and good thing, and when you're doing it out
of the kindness of your heart, I think it's one
of the most awesome things that you could ever be
involved in, and it is one of the most rewarding
activities to be involved in, and coming from somebody who
lives with a cancer survivor, definitely one hundred percent charity
is needed when it comes to cancer research, no doubt
about it. But people like this, people like Faith Kates,
who act like they're these great, noble people who just
want to help others and who just want to raise
money for people to battle cancer and so that there
is a cure, maybe at some point that's not really
what they're doing it. For my opinion, these people are
incredibly evil, incredibly manipulative, and they know how to gain
the system. So while I think it's a good thing
that this thirty million dollars has been raised for ovarian
cancer research, I don't think it's a good situation for
people like Faith Kates and others to be able to
use their charitable givings as some sort of shield, right,
because guess what, at the end of the day, we're
all gray characters. We're all capable of incredible good, and
we are all capable of incredible evil. And just because
you have done a good deed, that does not wipe
out or wash out the evil ones you have done before.
The guest lineup has included Kelly Rippa and husband Mark Consuelos,
Barbara Walters, Blake Lively, Christy Turlington, and Carmelo soprano Edie Falco.
Kates is also no stranger to speaking out on modeling
industry issues and in service of her talent roster. In
twenty seventeen, as the Me too movement was picking up,
Kate's discussed sexual harassment in the fashion sector by shutterbugs
and agents. Look again, really, you're going to discuss the
me too movement while you're You used to be a
business partner with Jean lup Brunel. And when you were
a business partner with him, everybody knew what he was
being accused of. People knew the sort of cockroach he was.
But you're still in business with him. You're still making
money with him. Oh that's okay, right, But once the
me too movement started picking up steam, you jumped on
that boat thinking that that would help your image a
little bit as well, didn't you. Faith Kates at the time,
she told Women's Were Daily that she didn't hear much
about abusive behavior, but when incidents have occurred, she would
call the offending photographer herself. I think next is pretty
powerful and the girls don't get hit on that much anymore.
I think the ones that do are the ones that
don't have great representation. We have a voice, Kate's told WWD. Meanwhile,
the modeling industry is strewn with stories of girls who
were being assaulted and abused and taken advantage of. What
is miss Kate's doing for them? Really? Was she being
an advocate for these women when she was accepting money
from Jeffrey Epstein or hanging out with John Luke Brunell.
Of course she wasn't just another hypocrite to add to
the pile. If you think, ever that somebody's bothering you
on set, you call us and somebody will be there
in fifteen minutes. Kate's claim. She tells her models, we
do what we can do to protect our people, Okay whatever.
Kates met Epstein through a mutual friend in the eighties.
A lawyer for the talent agent told The Daily Beast
in a letter. She claims to have lost touch with
him in the early nineties and to have been reacquainted
with him about ten years ago after his release from prison.
So that makes it so much better. Right, she didn't
have any contact with him until after he was released
from prison, because that's the time you want to reach
out to somebody, Right, that's the time to rekindle an
old relationship. Oh, mister Epstein, you went to jail for
abusing girls. Maybe we should be friends again. Maybe we
should have some business dealings. Why don't you come on
over to the shop so we can talk some business?
Are these people for real? If you didn't realize something
was wrong before he was arrested, which you should have,
you cannot use that same excuse the second time around,
when he was already indicted and convicted. There is no
excuse for hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein after his second
I mean, after his first arrest. Are you insane? Who
believes that sort of excuse? Mister Epstein inform Miss Kates
and everyone else. He knew that the reason he served
a year in prison was because he was caught with
a prostitute who, unbeknownst to him, was underage, and that
even though he was innocent, he accepted a plea deal
and agreed to serve a year in jail with work
release solely to avoid the risk that he could be
sentenced to twenty five years in prison if he went
to trial and fought the charges. The attorney said, is
anyone believing this? A simple Google search would have told
you the real story. A simple Google search would have
told you that it was at that point dozens of
girls from Palm Beach who have come forward. Instead, you
use this as your excuse. You use this as the
excuse you share with the world as if were we're
going to accept this. Jeffrey Epstein was a monster, and
you acted as a conduit to get his imagery built
and to have him come back into so called polite
society with the rest of you, so called disgusting elites.
That's the real story here, miss Kates. He added, given
the relatively light sentence mister Epstein received and the fact
that my client never personally observed any inappropriate conduct by
mister Epstein, she had no reason to disbelieve him. Oh whatever,
that's such bs. I mean again, does she really think
that anybody is going to believe this? Does she really
think that anyone is going to believe this? She had
no reason to disbelieve him. She had no reason to
disbelieve him because she didn't want to disbelieve him, or
she knew and she willingly entered into the relationship a
second time with Epstein knowing that he was a monster.
I'm sorry, but nobody's going to believe this bull crap excuse. Okay,
certainly not me and certainly not anybody out there listening
to this podcast. Four former Next employees told The Daily
Beasts they saw Epstein in their offices or answered phone
calls from him in the years between Next founding in
nineteen eighty nine and Epstein's incarceration in two thousand and eight.
Right there, destroying her story right on its face. Oh
I know, I didn't know Jeffrey Epstein. We didn't have
a relationship anymore. We drifted apart. Meanwhile, you have ex
employees here that are saying that's not the case. Again,
none of these people in the modeling industry or anybody
that I would trust. I gotta be honest with you, folks.
It seems like the modeling industry is one of the seediest,
dirtiest industries that has ever been established in the world.
What is wrong with these people? Timothy Priano, a makeup
and hair agent who worked with the company, recalled being
pulled into a meeting with Epstein and Kate's at the
New York offices in the late nineties. Another employee said,
the moneyman was in and out of our office constantly
in the early two thousands. I mean, come on, and
what will happen is this Faith Kates will think that
everybody should just believe her story because you know, she's
Faith Kates, and she donated a bunch of money to
ovarian cancer and and but in reality, the cat is
out of the bag. There's no going back, all right. We've,
like Morpheus offered Neo the red pill. We have all
eaten the red pill. At this point when it comes
to this case, we cannot go back. And Faith Kates
your BS excuses are not going to cut it. I
would only see him come in and go straight to
her office with the door closed. That person said it
was always like, get Jeffrey Epstein on the phone. So again,
these ex employees are corroborating that Faith Kates is bsing
about her relationship with Epstein and that the ties run
so much deeper than she ever let on. Another woman
who worked at the New York office were called answering
the phone when Epstein called she didn't recognize his name
and probably would not have remembered him at all if
another employee hadn't turned to her and remarked, Oh, it's
that creepy guy. And this is the kind of guy
that Faith Kates would have down at the office. Huh,
the kind of guy she'd allow around the models. Brilliant,
What an awesome display of judgment, Faith Kates. Kate's attorney
said Epstein would drop by her offices to say he
lo on occasion, but never took meetings there or had
any business or financial relationship with next. Well, the only
way we can get to that at the bottom of
that is if we have a RICO investigation. I want
to see all of it. Let's see all of the financials.
I want to see the ties that bind. Epstein was
also reported to have dated model Alena Puscau, a Playboy
cover girl and former Victoria's Secret Angel. In May two
thousand five article, The New York Post called Pascal a
Romanian stunner who used to date reclusive billionaire Jeffrey Epstein.
The report continued, Epstein, who handles Leslie Wexner's fortune, helped
Lander a gig modeling for Wexner's Victoria's Secret brand we
hear and paid for her to live in high style.
One friend of Puscau reportedly told the Post. Without Jeffrey,
she would never have gotten the Victoria's Secret job. Puskow
declined to comment for this story. Well, we know that
it's already been established that Epstein had a completely unlocked
in when it comes to Victoria's Secret. Right, he had
run of the castle. He could do whatever he wanted.
He was running around that place like he was Jeoff
I mean Robert Morathian in King's Landing. Whatever he wanted
he had. Epstein also did at another Next model, who
later became a real estate agent, according to a former
employee of the company, and her name appears in epstein
flight logs. A third Next Model appears in Epstein's infamous
address book and was listed in Epstein's butler's notes under
Visitor's Massage. She was also in Epstein's flight logs in
two thousand and three, but it's unclear if she modeled
with Next at the time. What it looks like to me, folks,
is that Epstein was also using Next as another place
for him to cultivate young women, procure them, bring them
into his atmosphere, brainwash them, and then abuse them. The
model realtor was photographed with Epstein at a launch party
for Radar Online in May two thousand and five, and
snapped out of September two thousand and five event Epstein
attended for the film Capodi. She also attended in November
two thousand and four gala for the Ovarian Cancer Research Fund,
of which Kate was president of the board from nineteen
ninety four to two thousand and eleven. Boy, it is
crazy how connected all of these people are. Huh. And
what's even crazier is that none of these people have
been wrangled up yet. In purp walk down to a
federal building for a nice long talk with an investigator.
Next in Kate say they had no knowledge of Epstein dating,
socializing with, or flying on a plane with any of
the agency's models. They don't know anything, folks, All right,
you're barking up the wrong tree. Faith Kates don't know anything. Next,
Modeling don't know anything. Nobody knows anything. This all just
happened in a vacuum. Tax records for Epstein's nonprofit, the
Coouq Foundation, Incorporated, show Epstein donated fifty thousand dollars to
Kate's cancer charity in September two thousand and six, two
months after he was busted for soliciting teen girls. Yeah,
they didn't have any relationship though. And in twenty twelve,
as he issued a flurry of philanthropic press releases to
repair his reputation, Epstein heralded another donation to kate group,
declaring early detection of ovarian cancer get substantial support from
science investor pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. And again we've established this already, right,
he has used these people as a conduit to return
to civil society. He wants to be part of so
called polite society so he can continue the blackmail operation,
and faith Kates was just another willing conduit to get
him there. The financier Pedophile bestowed funds on Kate's four
years later too, with a ten thousand dollars donation to
her latest nonprofit venture, the Women Global Cancer Initiative. As
The Daily Beast reported, Epstein provided the funds through his
secret charity, Gratitude America Limited. Boy Jeffrey Epstein sure has
a lot of secret bank accounts. He sure had a
lot of different offshore ways to move money. That sounds
like a normal person, right, like somebody who's not engaged
in money laundering. I know all of you about fifty
different bank accounts that you're moving money around in, right, right.
Mister Epstein's name was on a list with hundreds of
other donors Miss Kates solicited to make donations to her
cancer charities. An attorney for Kate said, indeed, mister Epstein
was well known for his philanthropy, donating over thirty million
dollars through his private foundations to numerous charitable causes between
nineteen ninety eight and twenty and eighteen. Like that makes
it okay, Like that makes it okay that Faith Kate's
and next took his money. It doesn't make it okay,
all right, It just makes you scummy, Like the rest
of them. Have some backbone, have some spine, have a
little bit of morality, would you? Epstein also recently funded
a nonprofit where Kate's son, Dylan Cogan worked. In twenty
and seventeen, Gratitude America sent twenty five thousand dollars to
the Junior Tennis Champion Center in College Park, Maryland, where
Cogan worked as a summer community outr each assistant manager
in twenty and eighteen. According to social media posts Cogan
coached at JTCC in twenty seventeen two. Well, isn't that nice.
Let's just have Jeffrey Epstein involved with more teenagers after
his arrest. No big deal. He can just donate to
these children's charities. He doesn't expect anything in return, Folks,
he doesn't want access. I mean no, out of the
kindness of his heart. Tennis Center CEO Raymond Benton told
The Diamondback, a student newspaper at the University of Maryland,
that his organization returned Epstein's total of thirty five thousand
dollars in donations donations with a check to be cashed
by mid May. Benton said Gratitude America gave JTCC twenty
five thousand dollars in August twenty seventeen and ten thousand
dollars in July of twenty and eighteen. Why did you
accept it in the first place? Again, nobody does their homework.
You don't have somebody who's checking who's donating money. So
any dictator, war criminal, serial killer, anyone can just come
donate money to your charity and you're going to accept
it willingly. Benton did not return The Daily Beast's request
for comment, nor did Will Hopton, jtcc's director of marketing
of the JTCC donation. Kates told The Daily Beast, my
son volunteered in high school, and I believe they gave
the don They gave back the donation, as if that
makes it better, as if that makes it okay. Why
did they accept the donation in the first place. And furthermore,
if your relationship with Epstein wasn't great, why is your son,
who is a counselor for this organization, getting this donation
from Epstein in the first place. Kate's was not the
only modeling industry insider Epstein target targeted in his quest
to repair his reputation. Another beneficiary was Eva An, his
modeled ex girlfriend, who founded the Dubin Breast Cancer at
Mount Sinai Hospital in twenty eleven. A year later, Epstein
issued a press release publicizing his financial support of her effort, and,
as The Daily Beast revealed, Epstein also donated to Harvard's
Hasty Pudding Institute of seventeen seventy, of which Anderson's daughter
Selena Dubin was a member. Now we've talked about his
ties to Glenn Dubin a lot, and I think it's
very important to note that Glenn Dubin, Eva Dubin and
Jeffrey Epstein are a lot more connected, and we're a
lot closer than even the legacy media is leading on.
That circle needs to be explored heavily, and Dubin and
his wife, Oh, they most definitely need to answer questions.
Epstein also teamed up with John Luke brunel, one of
NeXT's founding partners, in a close relationship that is now
under scrutiny. Brunel LL's name was kept out of the
press at the time of Next formation after multiple models
accused him of sexual assault in a nineteen eighty eight
Sixty Minutes feature. Brunell denied these allegations, but according to
previously unreported court documents, Brunell and his brother Arnaud were
twenty five percent owners of the fledgling agency, and also
Steve Minuchin had some ties with them as well. We're
going to talk about that at a tomorrow, probably dig
into that a little bit. Next also employed arnd as
a consultant and paid him a thirty thousand dollars a
year salary plus three percent of the company's annual revenue.
In court documents, Kate said the brothers basically had control
of the Florida Next office, but she she didn't really
know them. She didn't know Epstein either. In nineteen ninety six,
Next sued the brothers, accusing them of raiding the agency's
Miami office to set up a right of their own,
and in affid David Kate's claimed Joan Luke and Arnaud
solicited her models and staff to join their new agency,
located just one block from Next Miami headquarters, even as
Jean lu continued to hold the twenty five percent stake
in Kate's company. No honor among thieves or human traffickers. Obviously,
unless the defendants are stopped by this court, they will
continue to raid plaintiff's office, pirate plaintiff's employees and models,
and divert all of the business from plaintiff to themselves.
Next lawyers wrote, So basically they were attempting to do
a corporate raid, right. They were going in there trying
to take all the models, all the employees from Next
and move them over to their new business. Asked about
her relationship with Brunell. Kates told The Daily Beast he
was a minority partner thirty years ago and after two
years left the company. I haven't seen him since then.
Court documents, however, show the Brunell family apparently work for
the company for at least five years. They're included on
the company's partnership agreement in nineteen eighty nine, and Arnaud's
name appears on the official official company documents until nineteen
ninety four. Just in this article alone, it's been established
that faith Caate likes to play loose with the truth.
The split between Brunell and Next did not seem to
strain the Frenchman's relationship with Epstein. Between nineteen ninety nine
and two thousand and five, Brunell flew on the financier
Pedophiles private plane more than twenty times and was such
a regular at his Palm Beach estate that staff recalled
him whipping up his own meals in the kitchen. When
Epstein was arrested in two thousand and eight, Brunell visited
him nearly seventy times in jail. What a revolving door
in that jail? Huh? What was he hosting? A rave?
I mean, what was you know, you have some DJs
there and they were partying. Steve Aoki was spinning his
set and he was hosting a rave and all these
people were coming. What does this even mean? All of
these people seventy times while he was in jail. One
of Epstein's first public accusers, Virginia Roberts, claimed in legal
filings that Brunell was one of the many powerful men
who Epstein forced her to sleep with in her years
under a while in Epstein's orbit. She also accused Brunell
of using his agency to find foreign girls, to obtain
visas for them and farm them out to Epstein, to Brunell,
Brunell's friends, including Epstein, and we've talked about this a
lot as well. We know this is the case. We
know that Virginia has one on record saying this, and
all the other evidence leads to this point as well.
A lot of girls came from poor countries or poor backgrounds,
and he lured them with the promise of making good money.
Roberts said in a twenty fifteen affid David Jeffrey Epstein
has told me that he has slept with over a
thousand of Brunell's girls, and everything that I have seen
confirms this claim. It blows me away every time I
read that number thousand girls, A thousand of Brunell's girls.
Huh makes you wonder what happened to all of those
girls afterwards? What sort of misery have they been in?
A former Karen employee told The Daily Beast he frequently
arrived at the New York office to find women waiting
for him, saying Brunell had sent them. The women said
Brunell had promised them test shoots and housing, but to
the former employees knowledge, they never worked a single day
in the industry. So the Next office was basically a
place where a hub where Jeffrey Epstein would go and
pick up the girls he was going to abuse that
were sent by Jean Luke Brunel, and they were using
Next and the other modeling agencies as a cover. That's
called a front. Okay, an organized crime does it all
the time. A flower shop out front and in the
back they're running a gambling game. The difference is they
get arrested. Of course something is going on, because why
if you're in the business, why are you going to
waste your time with people who were not right for
the agency and the image of the agency. He said,
Jean Luke had a problem of the chase. He added,
the chase and the conquer and that's what it was
to this guy, right, Everything was about more money, consolidating
his power, helping out his boy, Jeffrey Epstein, have more
young girls for whenever he wanted them. That was Jean
Luke Brunell's whole goal in life and role as Jeffrey
Epstein's pal. Another for former Karen employee told The Daily
Beasts that the company was barely profitable and paid for
any extra expenses with influxes of cash from Brunell's brother
and their business partner, Ettion Deroi. Soon after the two
financiers pulled out in two thousand and three, Brunell's operation collapsed.
The Paris Office filed to revoke Brunell's claim to the
Karen trademark in two thousand and four, and in two
thousand and five he changed then of the agency to
mc squared. Similar to Roberts allegations, a former mc squared
bookkeeper told the FBI in twenty ten that Brunella had
flown in teenage models from around the World to be
housed in Epstein's Upper East Side apartments. She claimed the
girls were loaned out to wealthy clients for up to
one hundred thousand dollars a night and were not paid
if they refused to be molested. Brunell has denied these
claims and says the woman was fired from his agency
for embezzling company funds. How come everyone's always embezzling these people? Right? Oh, yeah,
I'm getting stolen from I'm the victim here. Yeah, right, man, Look,
here's the deal. Okay, nobody's embezzling your funds. She outed you,
and you decided you were going to cannor to try
and you know, stop it at the butt, right, get
stop it right away and make sure that she doesn't
ruin your business by outing you. As Brunell's business has
struggled in the early two thousands, Epstein seemed to be
trying to diversify. In two thousand and four, he tried
and failed to purchase the American arm of Elite Models,
according to The New York Post. The next year, he
extended a one million dollar line of credit to Brunell
to invest in a new agency with Elite Paris. Epstein's attorney,
Darren Endyke, registered the new company to four fifty seven
Madison Avenue, the same address as the financier Pedophile's investment firm. Again,
Darren Endyke and his dirty fingerprints all over this case
and this story. This man is a menace in my opinion,
and he definitely needs to be brought to justice. But
this plan, too was short lived. According to court documents,
Elite Paris called off the experiment after news began surfacing
of Epstein's arrest. In fact, Brunell later sued Epstein, claiming
rumors and news reports about his behavior had tarnished the
agent's reputation and cost him millions of dollars in lost business.
The suit was still making its way through the court
when Epstein died. Again, nobody believes that you and Epstein
were thick as thieves. The only reason you even put
forth that suit was because you figured it was your
only way out to try and protect yourself. I strongly
deny having participated neither directly nor indirectly in the actions
mister Jeffrey Epstein is being accused of, Brunel said in
a statement when he filed the lawsuit. I strongly deny
having committed any illicit act or any wrongdoing in the
course of my work as a scouter or a model
agencies manager. That's such a lie. There's a lot of
girls that totally disagree with that and would like to
call you to account for that, Sir, where I'm sitting,
you look like an absolute liar. When Epstein failed to
make inroads in the modeling industry, he relied on his
other business connections. Multiple aspiring models have accused Epstein of
assaulting them after claiming he was a scout for vic
Torrea's Secret, the iconic lingerie brand owned by Epstein's top
benefactor and client, Les Wexner. There is no evidence that
Epstein ever served as a formal scout for Victoria's Secret
or l Brands, its parent company. No, he just had
the keys to the whole entire kingdom, right that counts
for something. Don't you think he doesn't have to be
an official employee of Victoria's Secret to flaunt his power
to use his power to abuse these girls? And sources
said they quickly notified Wexner when they learned Epstein was
trying to involve himself in catalog scouting. Upon arriving at
his New York mansion, Ty says she tried showing Epstein
her portfolio. Instead, he began taking off his clothes and
laid down naked on a massage table. She escaped by
throwing a vibrator at his head and running out the door.
Three other models testified at recent coord hearings that Epstein
used as modeling industry connections to lure them in. Another
woman testified that Epstein had told her from a young
age that she could be a model, while a second,
Margique Chartoni, said a friend promised to Epstein could use
his connections to the art and fashion world to help her.
Both women say Epstein sexually assaulted them. A third woman,
identified only as Jane do Three, said a friend first
mentioned Epstein to her as a caring man who could
help her with her modeling career. She eventually met him
at his New York home, and she says he sexually
assaulted her. Afterwards, she says she became depressed and stopped
going to castings. Five months after moving to New York
City to pursue her dream of modeling, she left. How
many times have we heard that story? How many of
these models have come with these grand delusions that Jeffrey
helps Epstein put in their head that they're going to
be these big stars, and then he destroys their dreams,
crushes their dreams, breaks them down, and forms them into
what he wants them and brainwashes them. And these poor
girls have nowhere else to turn. Most times, they're not
even American citizens. They come over here with the promise
of him getting them a green card or a work visa,
and none of it occurs, and they're stuck, abused and
used and discarded by Jeffrey Epstein and his disgusting friends,
and nobody in law enforcement ever stood up to stop it.
I buried this deep within me, and all of the
new occurrences that have come up in the media is
what brought it back up for me, she testified. And
I feel sickened and saddened that it took so many
years and god knows how many victims for this to
finally come out, but I'm thankful it did, she added.
I'm just angry that he's not alive anymore to pay
for the price of his actions. I hear you there,
one hundred percent. I'm not saying that he's dead by
any means. But the fact that he didn't have to
answer for his crimes, that he didn't have to face
the brave survivors in court. That's what bothers me, not
that he's dead. The man deserves to die. In my opinion,
there's no room on the planet for people like him.
But the reality of the situation is this, folks. While
Epstein might be gone, his enablers, his friends, those who
protected him, and his co conspirators are still running free.
The question still remains, when is that going to change?
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cap You. We have an article today that we're going
to discuss from the Toronto Sun and it's about about
model agency bosses and they're just disgustingness and crude behavior
and all around scumbaggery. Now, there's a reckoning coming for
this industry at some point. How it hasn't happened already
is beyond me. I'm talking a seven mile wide comet
should have blasted into this industry a long time ago.
But somehow, these dudes in the modeling agencies, they've been
able to pretty much move however they want. And you
know how cd the modeling world can be from the
information we have from some of the brave women who
have come forward who have talked about it, and these
dudes have avoided all kinds of prosecution, avoided all kinds
of justice, and eventually that's gonna end. And eventually these
guys are going to have to answer for the allegations
against them, for the things that they have allegedly done.
But all of their friends in the so called circle
of the elite, they ignored those allegations. They've ignored those
allegations for years, for decades, and these people have still
been invited, still welcomed to all of the little parties
and the chires and the get togethers and the galas
and the rest of the nonsense. It has been the
same forever. They all knew, they all knew what was
going on, especially when we get into this article and
you see the way that they talked about these girls. Anyway,
you see, to start put the pieces together, folks, rude
comments that Epstein was always making all of these guys
were doing the same thing fellow travelers. That's just not
you know, a little coined phrase. That's truly what these
people were, fellow travelers at the very least. So let's
jump into this article from the Toronto Sun and let's
see what Brad Hunter has to say. Headline model agency
bosses kept tally of sex with virgins media reports. What
a bunch of great guys. Huh? And I bet you
all of these clowns have daughters, right, I'm sure that's
how they'd want their daughter treated. I'm sure that they'd
want some disgusting ass, slobbering, gross old man with a
balden ass head salivating all over their daughter. But that's
what they do, right, That's what they do. Oh, you
want this modeling job, here, come sit on the casting couch.
It's disgusting and this whole entire industry is just straight
up gross. I swear to you there's zero chance I
would ever, ever, ever, ever, ever ever let my son
or daughter be involved in anything like this. And one
of these modeling agencies without adult supervision meeting me there
twenty four hours a day, seven days a week, every
single one of these shoots. You must got me confused
with somebody else this day and age. Forget it. When
I was growing up, it was different, right, you know.
It wasn't until the nineties or so where you were
worried about your kids outside playing or you know, anything
like that. Never mind someone in this kind of position
touching your kid or diddling your kid. It wasn't so
that was thought about. It was going on, and it
should have been thought about, but it wasn't. Nowadays, everyone's
so hyper aware of stranger danger that forget it. I
don't know how anyone can honestly let their child be
alone with one of these modeling executives or I forget it.
Absolutely zero chance my daughter or son would be on
a plane with some executives for some modeling agency. Just
forget about it. There is about as much chance of
that happening as me hitting megabucks later on tonight. For
managers at Elite Models, sexual predation was allegedly a twisted
game played with clubhouse jocularity, say media accounts, and of
course that's you know, look, that's what these guys do, right,
These powerful dudes sit around and they talk about their
conquests or they talk about so and so that they
have basically enslaved to them. Because remember, as we've talked
about many, many times, these people don't have the same
get offs that we do, Right you or I. We
go to the casino, we put down two hundred bucks
on the table. We're excited, right, we win three four
five hundred dollars. That's a big deal. How do you
get that feeling? How do you get that release of
serotonin if you're a billionaire, if you're a ka trillionaire,
certainly not by playing two hundred bucks at the sports book. Right.
So these guys, you know, they have a whole different
way of having a good time, and power is definitely
one of their trigger points. And when they can sit
around and they can discuss these girls, these models, these
agency bosses like it's a stable of horses. Oh that's
just right up their alley. They love doing that. And
what you don't think they were sitting around with Jeffrey Epstein,
Bill Gates talking this same way. Well, you don't think
Donald Trump was sitting in with his buddies at the
modeling agencies. Let's not forget Donald Trump was involved in
all this modeling disgustingness as well. But you don't think
he was sitting around with these dudes talking like this
him of all guys. Oh, it's just locker room talk. Okay,
I get it, But bro, really, these dudes are sitting around.
That's how they talk about these girls. That's the way
that they feel about these girls that are supposed to
be their employees and the young women dreaming of runway fame.
They were losers, according to allegations, and it was just
that's just how they Again, that's just how these people
feel about all of us, not just these girls, but
all of us in society, the working poor, and that
is you everyone out there by the way. Okay, we're
considered the poor to them. Now, maybe some of you
out there listening have this kind of money, right, elite
kind of money. Perhaps you do. Hopefully you're not scumbag
like the rest of these people. But you know, but
for the most part, these people look at the common
person and they see suckers, right, they see a nine
to five sucker. Oh look at this asshole gets up
every day forty hours a week for what peanuts to
make me more rich. That's the way they look at you, unfortunately,
and that's the paradigm we're caught up in right. That's
the way society is set up. Get up, get to
your corporate job, work your forty hours a week or
fifty or sixty, and then once you get hurt or
crippled or something like that, forget it. You're finished. They
don't give a shit about you. These corporations and these
people that run these companies, they do not care one bit.
The bottom line is all they care about. And then
in some instances, when we're dealing with these sick predators,
well they care about power and manipulation and all of
that as well. The predators allegedly kept the tally of
women they slept with, kept standings, and were assigned bonus
points if the girls were if the girls they defiled
were virgins or underage. So basically, these dudes were acting
like it was fantasy baseball, right, just keeping tally, let's
keep track. Oh you're getting points for this, Oh you're
getting points for that. And you mean to tell me
nobody knew what was going on? Huh, This wasn't common knowledge.
These guys weren't brazenly speaking about this at all the dinners,
at all the meetings, of course they were, and all
the people that deny that they knew. They knew. If
you were at any of these meetings with these model people,
these agency heads that were at Eeffrey Epstein's house or
anywhere else, you knew. So all of these people that
come out with those canned ass oh, we had no idea.
We thought he was just rehabilitating his image. All of
those people in my book anyway, or just liars. There's
no beating around the bush, right, There's no messing around anymore.
These people are what they are. Welcome to the dark
underbelly of one of the world's most glamorous professions. Now,
French cops are investigating the agency's former Paris based president,
Gerald Marie, who one former associate has described as a
sexual predator. The Daily Mail reported, And again this is
another one of these scumbags, right, he went on record
talking about Jean Luke Brunel. Meanwhile, this dude has his
own problems. Seems to me that it's an industry wide problem,
and especially for people that are part of this generation,
you know, the seventies, eighties, nineties. Even these people they
think that they had a different set of rules, I guess,
and nobody ever checked them. Not the media, not the politicians,
and certainly not prosecutors. It took Jeffrey Epstein's survivors to
take their case directly to the public for anyone to care,
for anyone to pick up a pen and write a story.
And that's a black eye to the legacy media and
all of these clowns who act like they care about people,
who act like they're the champion of the small person,
of the little guy. Where are they at? Where have
they been? And so far fourteen women are claiming they
were either raped or sexually harassed by the Katwalk kingpin.
Maria is the ex husband of Canadian souper Linda Evangelista.
For her part, Evangelista has gone on the record as
saying she believes the women look when the people closest
to you get on the record and they co sign
with what other people are saying about you, that you're
a sick bastard, that they believe that you actually raped
these girls or sexually assaulted them, then you got a
big problem in my opinion, And if the law isn't
going to do anything about it, then he should be
shunned by the other people in his industry. Again, this
isn't a one off, right, somebody saying, oh, well, this
guy did this to me, and it's just one person, right,
We're multiple people. This isn't a jolted lover. This isn't
somebody with an axe to grind. These are multiple women
ladies now who have come forward who have said this
man has molested them, this man has hurt them, this
man has raped them. And they've been telling their story
at the very least since nineteen eighty eight when they
had that interview on sixty minutes. Where was everybody at
Where were all of these big mouths at all of
these law enforcement people, all of these prosecutors, all of
these people in the media, and nobody that was aware
of this smack this dude in the mouth. Not one
of these people who are coming forward now thought it
was a good idea to stand up in one of
these meetings and chick lit check this dude. Nobody all right,
I mean, I guess if that's you know, you want
to live with yourself at the very least, get up
and walk out, call the police, do something. But the
sad part is all of these people, they took other
meetings with these these kind of guys they kept hanging
out with these guys, They kept going to dinner with
these guys, and they knew and they didn't do anything.
He Marie touched women's breasts, bottoms. He always used very
sexual and vulgar words when speaking about women. Yeah, most
of these most of these kind of people do right.
These people, they're basically not even human. I don't even
know what they are, but they are just sick, sick,
sick individuals, and they need to be stopped. All of
these people, the Jean lu Brunel's of the world, the
Gerald Marie of the world, all of these people that
flaunt their power, flex their power, and then use their
positions of power to exert control over people. Yeah, those
people are all in my crosshairs. Tired of these kind
of people, folks. These are the sort of people that
make all of our lives absolutely miserable, them and their
banker buddies. Harfus outlined a horrific culture of abuse that
Elite that ran from the nineteen eighties well into the
nineteen nineties. For its part, Elite, now under new ownership,
called the Lurid allegations egregious and abhorrent. The company has
since it's been split in two with an American arm
and one in Paris. And it's always America and Paris, right,
Paris is always playing a role in all of these
modeling agencies. Certainly the hubs certainly a transit point for
these girls to get shipped to America in the Epstein case,
specifically from Paris through Jean Luke Brunel, through that rat line.
These girls will come from Eastern Europe, they'd come from
war torn homes like Yugoslavia, and they'd be pushed through
that rat line, end up in France through the modeling
agency as the cover, and then shipped off to America
to the clutches of Jeffrey Epstein. Now, Epstein's the only
one we're talking about, right, That's the one that we're
focused on. But how many other Epstein's are out there?
How many other Epstein's are out there that we don't
know about, who are not as brazen about what they do.
It's chilling to think about. Over the years, Marie has
fervently denied any wrongdoing. Lebanese businessman Harfuch told the newspaper
he is assisting French cops in their probe. I explained
to the police to help them in their investigation. How
it worked, he claimed, Gerald Marie and a few bookers
from the agency had a board where they would write
down who slept with the most women. The criteria for
the competition was their ages. I mean, it's like gut
wrenching disgusting to even have to read that. Never mind
these girls that had to live it. Imagine to pursue
your dreams in whatever field you work in, that this
was one of the prerequisites spending a lone time with
one of these scumbag, disgusting, ugly bastards. It's abhorrent to
think about. And the fact that these people have gone
away with it for so long is it's just beyond me.
I don't even know what to say about it, honestly,
he added. The younger they were, the more points, and
the more virgins, the more points. At the end of
each fashion week, they would compare their exploits. I mean,
what your exploits. All of you should be in prison exploits.
We'll see how many exploits you have. Walk in the yard.
And this kind of thing was common knowledge, folks. What
you think this guy's the only one who knew you,
don't think these dudes were at dinner with their fellows,
comparing notes the way you and your colleagues would be
talking about the workday after a hard shift over at
the local CANTEENA These people have no regard for anybody.
Harfoods eventually left the agency in what was described as
as an acrimonious departure. One of the problems for the complainants,
indeed any sexual survivor, is that France has a twenty
year statue of limitations on sex crimes. Now, be that
as it may, Guys like this don't just stop, right
If you're a sexual offender, you're a sex criminal. That
is habitual behavior. You're not just gonna stop one day.
So I'm guessing that there are more victims recently that
don't fall under the statue of limitations. The question is
finding them and if they'll come forward and talk about it.
A lot of them might not want to do that.
They might fear for their lives or their safety, or
their careers or whatever it is. But the fact of
the matter is this, there's no way this dude or
any of these other sick bastards stopped. They can't stop,
just like someone like John Wayne Gacy couldn't stop killing people.
These people can't stop up being sexual predators. It is
just who they are. And Claire Lejeune, a lawyer who
represents accusers in the case of Marie, Jeffrey Epstein and
powerful modeling agent Jean Luke Brunell, said things may be changing.
It the Marie accusations is exactly the same scenario as Brunel.
Originally we told everything, we were told everything is beyond
the statue of limitations. We are not going to investigate
facts beyond the statue of limitations, la Jeune told The Times.
And it's again, I don't even think that they need
to go back that far. Honestly, folks, they could find
something within the statue of limitations. Of that, I am
almost certain. The question is do they have the backbone,
do they have the desire to do so? But when
the investigators really pursue inquiries, they realize that there are elements. Yeah, well,
no shit, no doubt about that, plenty of elements. I'm sure.
I'm sure there's a money laundering element for these guys
as well. Oh what, you don't think they were getting
advice from their buddy Jeffy. Come on now, Among the
complaints are four British women. Former BBC reporter Lisa Brinkworth
fifty three claims she was sexually assaulted by Marie in
nineteen ninety eight. At the time, she was working under
cover trying to expose sexual crimes in the fashion world.
I mean, imagine this lady is out there working undercover
to expose the very thing she is exposed to, and
I'm sure nothing happened. Obviously nobody said anything, nobody did anything,
and this scumbag was allowed to just continue doing whatever
he wanted. American supermodel Carrie Otis fifty one, is also
one of the complaints. She claims she was sexually assaulted
by Marie when she was a naive seventeen year old
in Paris. We are from an arrow where this behavior
was blatant. We have all known about perpetrators. There was
no hiding their behavior in any way. Otis said. We
still face a completely unregulated industry where perpetrators are still working,
which is appalling, and she's right on about that. I mean,
come on, these people still are working in this modeling industry.
If you're in the financial industry and you get nailed
for I don't know money laundering. You're probably not going
to get another job at a major bank. I mean,
not like it matters. Everybody's still doing it anyway, but
for appearance purposes, right, But Gerald Marie with all of
these arrow of these allegations hanging over him, Jean Lupurnell,
with all of those allegations that were hanging over him,
no big deal. Not only do you continue to work,
but why don't you come to my mansion and we
could have some dinner. One field, one area that most
certainly needs to be disinfected, folks, that needs a much
more stringent look. Well, that is the field and the
world of the cd AS modeling agencies and the dirty
ass scumbags who run them. If you'd like to contact me,
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