Speaker 1: Let's go out to the phone lines now and bring
Speaker 1: in my father stuck on the van wick uh. So
Speaker 1: we have we have Richard smith live in studio, we
Speaker 1: have Scott Leyden in Las Vegas, and my father Dave
Speaker 1: check Its joined us from New York. So I'll try
Speaker 1: to play traffic cop best I can. Hello, Dad, how
Speaker 1: are you.
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 3: It's been a great show. I've been listening and happy
Speaker 3: to join and say hello. And I don't know how
Speaker 3: I can add anything to what rich Richard and what
Speaker 3: Smithy and what Scottie said. Scotty gave the talk of
Speaker 3: the century at Frank's funeral. He just he just he
Speaker 3: caught his whole life just beautifully as only a son could.
Speaker 3: It was I was, I was sitting with the other
Speaker 3: Paul Bears, as you know, and all of us were
Speaker 3: we're grabbing for Kleenex because Scott brought him right right
Speaker 3: to so he recapped his life so beautifully.
Speaker 1: I'll ask you the same question to start that I've
Speaker 1: asked all of our guests, that included of course Smitty
Speaker 1: and Scott. We had Phil Johnson on earlier. We're going
Speaker 1: to bring in Ron McBride coming up in the five
Speaker 1: o'clock hour. But your thoughts on the life and legacy
Speaker 1: of Frank Layton. What did Frank Layton mean to you?
Speaker 3: Well, he meant everything to me. When I joined the
Speaker 3: Jazz in nineteen eighty three, twenty seven years old, I
Speaker 3: had never run a lemonade stand and Sam Badistone, on
Speaker 3: the recommendation of David Stern, brought me in and handed
Speaker 3: the rings to me and said, you know, David told
Speaker 3: me you you'd be able to save this franchise and
Speaker 3: keep it here. And David told me to give everything
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 2: And I really did not know.
Speaker 3: All of the steps that we'd have to take to
Speaker 3: turn into a franchise that wasn't rumored to move, wasn't
Speaker 3: going to leave Salt Lake, wasn't going to go into bankruptcy,
Speaker 3: he wasn't going to merge with the Denver Nuggets. Just
Speaker 3: you can't imagine the time that it was. But the
Speaker 3: first guy reached out to was a coach and general manager,
Speaker 3: Frank Layden. And I'll never forget how he He came
Speaker 3: to the Salt Palace to meet with me on my
Speaker 3: second day of work, and he came in. He was
Speaker 3: he was driving a car that the franchise had given
Speaker 3: to him to drive. And you know, here he is
Speaker 3: like the head guy, coach, head coach, general manager. He's
Speaker 3: driving this Toyoda wagon that that looked like it had
Speaker 3: been trashed that the Dealership of Choice had given him.
Speaker 3: But you know what his his great his great dignity is.
Speaker 3: I came away. I remember coming home, Dohn and saying
Speaker 3: to your mom, this guy is incredible. He knows everything
Speaker 3: about the game, he knows everything about his job. He's
Speaker 3: just never been given the support and tools here that
Speaker 3: he needs to really build something special. And that's my job.
Speaker 3: Give him the money, give him the freedom, give him
Speaker 3: the ability instead of drafting, you know, drafting players and
Speaker 3: having to sell them as they as the Jazz had
Speaker 3: to do famously. You know, I wanted to give Frank
Speaker 3: Laden everything he needed to hire the best people, the
Speaker 3: best coaches, to draft the best players, and we were
Speaker 3: going to be about winning. And when I said that
Speaker 3: to him, he said, that is music to my ears.
Speaker 3: But you know, he had never said that publicly. He
Speaker 3: always defended uh Sam and and Sam's willingness to bring
Speaker 3: the team to Salt Lake. But but that that became
Speaker 3: my goal and we became great partners in spite of
Speaker 3: the fact that he'd grown up in New York, I
Speaker 3: grew up in Utah. In spite of the fact that
Speaker 3: that I had I had no experience in the NBA
Speaker 3: and he had all this experience. All he showed me
Speaker 3: my whole life, my whole life was nothing but loyalty
Speaker 3: and dignity. He's he's one of the best people I've
Speaker 3: ever met, by far. I mean, he he had a
Speaker 3: character about him that was that was full of goodness
Speaker 3: and could he be tough, Yes, he could be tough.
Speaker 3: And he and I, he and I only had one
Speaker 3: run in the whole time we worked together, and it
Speaker 3: was over something stupid that had been said during a
Speaker 3: game time promotion, and he just let me have it.
Speaker 3: And I went right back at him and I said,
Speaker 3: Frank Book, I know I made a mistake, but we
Speaker 3: have always we've treated each other with great dignity. And
Speaker 3: you know what, he apologized like immediately, he just said
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry that there were other things on his mind,
Speaker 3: and all of the rest of the time to the
Speaker 3: most difficult moments, especially Adrian Dantley holding out on him
Speaker 3: and not reporting the camp and David Falk, his agent,
Speaker 3: just disrespecting the team, the franchise and us. Frank and
Speaker 3: I were just arm in arm. We were in lockstep, lockstep,
Speaker 3: and I really believe, you know, he turned it around
Speaker 3: because we got into tools. He needed to do it.
Speaker 3: And but in terms of what he meant to me,
Speaker 3: I can't I can't even I can't even say, I
Speaker 3: can't even say he was He was the most valuable
Speaker 3: friend and mentor I could ever imagine, in not just
Speaker 3: in basketball, but in life, because we talked about life
Speaker 3: a lot. We talked about raising kids, we talked about
Speaker 3: how to treat your wife, we talked about character. He
Speaker 3: loved people of character, and he taught me so very much.
Speaker 3: And one of the other is the last thing I'll say.
Speaker 3: I don't think there's any way I didn't have a
Speaker 3: choice when when Larry and I decided we could not
Speaker 3: we could no longer work together, I didn't have a choice.
Speaker 3: I had to leave. But I loved the NBA and
Speaker 3: I got my dream job because the Knicks were the
Speaker 3: team of my childhood and Spencer, you know this. I
Speaker 3: never could have gone to New York and she sheeted
Speaker 3: without having first been prepared by the all time New
Speaker 3: Yorker Frank Layden. He got me ready for what was
Speaker 3: a really tough job back there. But he just he
Speaker 3: taught me so many principles about winning and championship, culture
Speaker 3: and character, and I took it all in. I was
Speaker 3: just a sponge with him, and it allowed me, I think,
Speaker 3: for you know, to have a decade of success with
Speaker 3: the Knicks and Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 4: You know, Dave, we were we were talking about some
Speaker 4: of those qualities of Coach Laden's an earlier segment with Johnson,
Speaker 4: and I made the uh the analogy that to me,
Speaker 4: it was a little bit like the recent documentary that
Speaker 4: came out about Yogi Bearra and his granddaughter who did
Speaker 4: this film and researched all the information and said that
Speaker 4: that her her grandfather was known you know as the
Speaker 4: quote the quote master and the storyteller and all that
Speaker 4: kind of stuff, but nobody really gave him his due
Speaker 4: for for who he really was as a baseball player,
Speaker 4: you know, game in and game out, and his numbers
Speaker 4: over the years and all of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: And when you look at him, you know, his number
Speaker 4: is far surpassed almost everybody else. Uh In baseball during
Speaker 4: that time, and and also as a catcher in the game,
Speaker 4: and we were saying, how how that somehow, you know,
Speaker 4: sometimes uh uh came over into how Frank was viewed
Speaker 4: by the public because he was a funny guy and
Speaker 4: told stories and and did the stuff he did and
Speaker 4: public facing away, but behind the scenes, a lot of
Speaker 4: people don't know what kind of X and O's tactician
Speaker 4: he was as a coach. You know, how he was
Speaker 4: in the front office, how he managed the people, and
Speaker 4: all the things he did actually run the franchise in
Speaker 4: the early days when it was teetering, and all the
Speaker 4: things he had to do to keep all those, if
Speaker 4: you will, all those plates spinning on top of the
Speaker 4: on top of the sticks in order none of them
Speaker 4: fall off. And what great skill he had in doing
Speaker 4: all of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: He was amazing and not only skilled and smart, but
Speaker 3: so caring and so committed. And I'm not sure he ever,
Speaker 3: I mean, even though he had those nice accolades Coach
Speaker 3: of the Year, Executive of the Year in eighty four
Speaker 3: when they won the Midwest Division title my first year
Speaker 3: with the team, So I got spoiled quickly because that
Speaker 3: just started a run of when we just made the
Speaker 3: playoffs every year that we were together, Frank and I,
Speaker 3: and it's because of the job that he did not exs,
Speaker 3: not just excess and those, but his leadership, his support
Speaker 3: is mentoring. I thought of a funny story, Spencer that
Speaker 3: I'll never forget. I was, of course, negotiating player contracts
Speaker 3: and trying to get players signed as quickly as I could,
Speaker 3: to always get guys in the camp and make sure
Speaker 3: we had the best players on the floor. And I
Speaker 3: was right in the middle of the Dantley holdout, and
Speaker 3: I'm just so angry about all of that. But there
Speaker 3: was a time later on Frank was still coaching where
Speaker 3: we were almost done with a contract extent for Mark Eaton,
Speaker 3: and he's Mark Eaton's agent. Keith Glass just wouldn't give
Speaker 3: up on this one stupid incentive he wanted in Mark's contract.
Speaker 3: He wanted an incentive that if Mark led the team
Speaker 3: in rebounding that he got an extra twenty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: And I I went to coach Laden and I said, Okay, Frank,
Speaker 3: this is the last thing we need to do. If
Speaker 3: we do this, he'll sign this new five year extension
Speaker 3: we'll be done with him and we can carry on.
Speaker 3: And he said, what is it And I said, he
Speaker 3: wants a twenty five thousand dollars bonus if he leads
Speaker 3: the team in rebounding. And he said, no, no, I'm
Speaker 3: not doing that. We're not doing that because you know
Speaker 3: that's exactly what we need, is him trying to take
Speaker 3: rebounds away from whoever's on the other side of the
Speaker 3: free throw lane so he can add to his numbers.
Speaker 3: We're just not going to do that. And I said, Frank,
Speaker 3: it's like twenty five thousand dollars in a contract that
Speaker 3: was paying eating probably something like four or five hundred
Speaker 3: thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: At the time.
Speaker 3: And I said, this is all we need to get
Speaker 3: this done. This thing will be behind us. We'll have
Speaker 3: him for five years. And Frank said, Dave, you know what,
Speaker 3: this is your deal. You do what you want. But
Speaker 3: I say, no, I'm against and so I went back.
Speaker 3: I negotiated for so long on this contract that I
Speaker 3: went back to Keith Glass and I said, Keith, if
Speaker 3: you tell me this is the very last deal, I'm
Speaker 3: doing this against my coaches wishes, but I'll do it
Speaker 3: just just to have it behind us, and Keith said,
Speaker 3: that's the last thing. We have a deal. So we
Speaker 3: signed the contract, and it was a full two years later.
Speaker 3: It was two years after we signed that contract that
Speaker 3: we're playing in a very tight game at home. I
Speaker 3: think it was against the Mavericks and we're at home
Speaker 3: and on a certain free throw I don't remember. I
Speaker 3: think it was Rolando Blackman shooting a free throw out.
Speaker 3: It's I can remember the moment like it was yesterday.
Speaker 3: And he makes the first free throw and misses the second,
Speaker 3: and Eaton goes up to grab the rebound, just as
Speaker 3: Malone does as well, and neither one of them yielded
Speaker 3: to the other, and they tipped the ball in went
Speaker 3: in the basket, and Scotty, you remember where I used
Speaker 3: to sit on the second row, just down from press row,
Speaker 3: and I see Rank marching toward me. We're in the
Speaker 3: middle of a game and I'm sitting with my I'm
Speaker 3: sitting with my family, and he comes over and stands
Speaker 3: right in front of me and he says, so, Dave,
Speaker 3: what do you think about your I'll leave out the
Speaker 3: word what do you think about her incentive? Now he
Speaker 3: inserted a little admit, what do you think about your
Speaker 3: blank you're blank, He's blanking incentive. Now, what do you
Speaker 3: think about it now? And he stands there like i'mus answering,
Speaker 3: and I just am shrugging my shoulders, like I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: Scott, and Dad, I want to get your inside in
Speaker 1: this too. You know, Frank did something that really nobody does.
Speaker 1: And he would joke in later years that if he
Speaker 1: knew coaches, we're going to be paid four five six
Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Maybe he would have stuck around.
Speaker 1: But he retires in nineteen eighty eight, and as the
Speaker 1: legend goes, he had just been ejected from a game
Speaker 1: by Earl Strom after getting into a shouting match with
Speaker 1: Darryl Walker. But he also talked Scott about his desire
Speaker 1: to spend time with Barbara, with your mother and with
Speaker 1: the family, and you know, just kind of live his
Speaker 1: life a little bit. And you know, Jerry of course
Speaker 1: takes over and the rest is history. But Scott will
Speaker 1: start with you, then Dad will go to you on this.
Speaker 1: Can you shed some insight onto into exactly what that
Speaker 1: was like for him to walk away from a team
Speaker 1: that he had built it was ready to win at
Speaker 1: a very high level.
Speaker 2: I think I think the probably I mean, this may
Speaker 2: be an oversimplification, but I think I think it was
Speaker 2: a selfless act at the time. And you know, while
Speaker 2: while I think he had, you know, enjoyed coaching, I
Speaker 2: think he I think he felt good about coaching, He
Speaker 2: felt good about the team. But I also think he
Speaker 2: understood where there was a little bit of a tipping
Speaker 2: point that if we waited too long, we could lose
Speaker 2: you know, a great coach, and coach Sloan and his
Speaker 2: selflessness I think allowed him to step away. And and
Speaker 2: the other thing is and and Dave knows this well
Speaker 2: because they were really close, is that he had other,
Speaker 2: you know, other interests. It did like he wasn't he
Speaker 2: wasn't beholden to just basketball. He had so many other
Speaker 2: things that he he wanted to do and he wanted
Speaker 2: to do with my mom and my brother and sister.
Speaker 2: So it wasn't like he needed, you know, that that's
Speaker 2: all he could do. He was more of a renaissance
Speaker 2: man than not. And he also loved being out in
Speaker 2: the community and travel and and so I think he
Speaker 2: I think he was comfortable with where he was and
Speaker 2: what he had done. And now you know, it was
Speaker 2: Jerry's time, and no one was more supportive of Jerry
Speaker 2: Sloane than my dad, because if you look at coach
Speaker 2: Johnson and you look at coach Sloan as as when
Speaker 2: they were assistants, they were both capable of being head coaches,
Speaker 2: for sure, but both of them were so fiercely loyal,
Speaker 2: and I'd say it was a great quality. It was
Speaker 2: a great lesson for me. They were both fiercely loyal
Speaker 2: to my dad and that's what made those relationships work.
Speaker 2: So when it came time, I think it was easy
Speaker 2: for my dad to say, you know what this is,
Speaker 2: this is Jerry's time, So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well go over to you. I wonder you know
Speaker 1: when Frank came to you with that decision, what that
Speaker 1: was like, and how eventually it went from Frank to Jerry.
Speaker 3: It happened over quite a long period of time. Right
Speaker 3: after training camp that season, he started to make noise
Speaker 3: like that. When I would talk to him, he'd say,
Speaker 3: Dave Man, I don't know if I can do this.
Speaker 3: And we had had keep in mind that I think
Speaker 3: our coming out party was nineteen at the end of
Speaker 3: the the seventy or the seventh, let's see eighty seven
Speaker 3: eighty eight season, when we played the Lakers in a
Speaker 3: seven game series. They would go on to win the championship,
Speaker 3: but we played them in a very tough seven game series,
Speaker 3: and actually when we came home for Game six, we
Speaker 3: blew them out like one oh six to eighty on
Speaker 3: our floor and set up a big Game seven, which
Speaker 3: we lost in La. But I was surprised because he was.
Speaker 3: He started making noise right after training camp about I
Speaker 3: hate getting on airplanes, I hate all the travel, I
Speaker 3: hate the hotel rooms. All of a sudden, he said,
Speaker 3: it's just it's just gotten old for me. And I said,
Speaker 3: but Frank, we finally have a team. We finally have
Speaker 3: a team that can do something really special. I mean
Speaker 3: really special. You saw what we did with the World
Speaker 3: Champs last year. This year could be better. We should
Speaker 3: be better. And don't you want to stick around to
Speaker 3: enjoy it? But he said, he would keep saying I
Speaker 3: just don't have it. I just don't I just don't
Speaker 3: feel it. But all these years later, I have concluded
Speaker 3: that there was something else to play with him. And
Speaker 3: you know he'll never he'll never confirm this. He would
Speaker 3: never acknowledge it, even though I pushed him over the
Speaker 3: years to say, I know what was up with for
Speaker 3: you then, And what was up was he did not
Speaker 3: want he did not want if he stepped down. He
Speaker 3: wanted Larry and me to have no choice. He wanted
Speaker 3: it to be Jerry Sloan. And the best way to
Speaker 3: do that would be to resign mid season, because I mean,
Speaker 3: we're not going to conduct a search then and select
Speaker 3: somebody else. I wouldn't have anyway, but Larry always talked about,
Speaker 3: you know, if Frank ever steps down, we're going to
Speaker 3: have to do a search. And I knew. I think
Speaker 3: we all knew that Jerry, even though he'd been fired
Speaker 3: in Chicago, we knew he was a great, great coach
Speaker 3: and a person of great character. I think Frank did
Speaker 3: that totally to force our hands. I've never said this publicly,
Speaker 3: but I think he did it totally to force our hand,
Speaker 3: to make sure that this guy who had been so
Speaker 3: loyal to him and was so ready for the job,
Speaker 3: got the job.
Speaker 4: And as I remember that, Dave, if my memory serves
Speaker 4: me correct, I think we had a game in the
Speaker 4: in the Salt Palace on a Wednesday night, came in
Speaker 4: Thursday morning announced to the team that that he was
Speaker 4: stepping down immediately as the head coach, and Jerry was
Speaker 4: running practice that morning, and Jerry ran ran the practice
Speaker 4: and then the team got on a flight that afternoon.
Speaker 4: I think it was to go to Dallas for a
Speaker 4: game Friday night, and it was just you know, just
Speaker 4: as you say, it was just like, we don't have
Speaker 4: any time to do anything else. This is what we
Speaker 4: have to do. We have to do this thing. And
Speaker 4: because we got a game with one night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we had, I mean all of us had
Speaker 3: agreed the night before that that's what we would do.
Speaker 3: And Larry came in too. Larry Miller walked into the
Speaker 3: dressing room well and we left Frank announce that he
Speaker 3: was stepping aside and that Jerry was was going to
Speaker 3: take over. And then Larry said, I want to just
Speaker 3: say one thing, and he looked at the mailman. I
Speaker 3: remember him giving the mailman at Death's there, and he
Speaker 3: gave him this look and he said, this was Frank's
Speaker 3: decision and only Frank, he was nobody else had anything
Speaker 3: to do with this. This is totally his decision. Because
Speaker 3: he thought Larry thought the players would would think that
Speaker 3: he had he had pushed Frank out. He wanted he
Speaker 3: wanted the players to know, and this was true. It
Speaker 3: was totally Frank.
Speaker 1: We're chatting with Scott Laden live in Vegas, Dave Checkets
Speaker 1: live in New York, Richard Smith live in Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1: I know both of you have to go, so we'll
Speaker 1: in with this and Scott will start with you, and
Speaker 1: then Dad, we'll go to you. I wonder whether it's
Speaker 1: pearls of wisdom, pieces of advice, funny saints, and I
Speaker 1: know there's a lot there. If you could share any
Speaker 1: of the great lessons you learned from Frank before I
Speaker 1: said both of you lose. Scott will start with you.
Speaker 2: Oh, there were many I hastened to do this, but
Speaker 2: I said this the other night or the other day
Speaker 2: at the during the eulogy, he had all these things
Speaker 2: and they were coming at us constantly. Words of advice.
Speaker 2: Whenever you go in a restaurant, immediately go in the bathroom,
Speaker 2: because whoever cleans the bathroom cleans the kitchen. Always leave
Speaker 2: a place better than you found it. Now, clearly Utah,
Speaker 2: Salt Lake City, the jazz were better than he found
Speaker 2: it when he left. Never refuse a breath, mint that
Speaker 2: sound advice and then my favorite and this is where
Speaker 2: I'm nervous, but I'm gonna say it anyway. Never trust
Speaker 2: a man with two first names. So I said, I
Speaker 2: said that what I don't understand. What what do you
Speaker 2: mean by that? He said, we'll think about it. Son,
Speaker 2: Mike Lee, Lindsey Graham, Paul Ryan. Oh my god, my
Speaker 2: daughter is my speech writer, so he said. He said,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not a member of any organized political party.
Speaker 2: I'm a Democratic. And today's day and age. In today's
Speaker 2: day and age, it's like it's so poignant. But during
Speaker 2: the last several months, I can't tell you how many
Speaker 2: nurses came into his room and I said, coach, thank
Speaker 2: you so much. You're the only room in the hospital
Speaker 2: that has Rachel matt Ol and MSNBC. I'll leave it there.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you.
Speaker 2: I got to tell you something because I worked with Smitty,
Speaker 2: I worked with Spencer when he was a young man.
Speaker 2: I can't I just can't get over that Internet that
Speaker 2: worked for me is now this radio. I don't know,
Speaker 2: You're like you're a dynamo. I just can't get over
Speaker 2: with you. Know, it's You're like, no, I can't believe
Speaker 2: you're the same person. And then I'm telling you I
Speaker 2: loved and I told him the other night, I loved
Speaker 2: working for day check Its because every day was competitive,
Speaker 2: it was intense, and we were focused on winning it all.
Speaker 2: And that's I appreciate the opportunity to have worked with
Speaker 2: you guys, and obviously work with my dad.
Speaker 1: So thank you, thank you for those words, Scott.
Speaker 3: Dad will win with you, Oh Scottie, the opposite is true.
Speaker 3: You were just a joy always to work with and
Speaker 3: and you know to shoe you work with your dad.
Speaker 3: Everything from the lucky ties you know, to you all
Speaker 3: everything we did to try and win. My favorite thoughts
Speaker 3: from Frank I'll just offer up too. I know he
Speaker 3: said never trust a man with two names, but he
Speaker 3: had this other thing, Scott. He said, never trust a
Speaker 3: man with a beard. He's hiding something, and he meant it.
Speaker 3: He absolutely meant it, never trust the man with the beard.
Speaker 3: But this was one of his favorite sayings. And this
Speaker 3: is why I think he ran out of gas with
Speaker 3: the Jazz. I think this had something to do with it,
Speaker 3: and he resigned too early. But he always said it's
Speaker 3: better to surprise than disappoint. And that was one of
Speaker 3: his favorite sayings. And you know what, the Jazz under
Speaker 3: Frank had started surprising people in that eighty three eighty
Speaker 3: four season. And in that eighty eight season, we had
Speaker 3: played the Lakers to a stancill. I mean they had
Speaker 3: to dig deep. We were the best team they played
Speaker 3: that year, and they went all the way to winning
Speaker 3: a title. And Frank knew that that young team had
Speaker 3: come of age, and he just didn't love being in
Speaker 3: a situation where there was only downside. He loved being
Speaker 3: in a situation where there was only upside because he
Speaker 3: knew he could prize people. He knew his team could
Speaker 3: surprise people. And suddenly, instead of the underdog, the lovable underdog,
Speaker 3: the Jazz had become a real force in the NBA.
Speaker 3: Well daved and and Scott good I was just gonna
Speaker 3: I love I love him, I'll miss him and love
Speaker 3: the whole Laden family.
Speaker 4: You know, I was just going to add just a
Speaker 4: little anecdote, David Scott. You know, I remember Frank Scott
Speaker 4: when when Scott first got to New York and got
Speaker 4: situated and brought Frank in and and Frank came home
Speaker 4: from the first visit in New York and and I'm
Speaker 4: visiting with him. We're out to dinner, and he said, hey,
Speaker 4: look at this. He takes out his key ring and
Speaker 4: he shows you and and I said, what is that, coach.
Speaker 4: He goes, see this key right here, I go. I go, yeah,
Speaker 4: he goes, that's the key from Aison Square garden. And
Speaker 4: I said for the garden. He yeah, they gave me
Speaker 4: the key to their garden. This opens every door in
Speaker 4: the garden. And and he just had this twinkle in
Speaker 4: his eye, like I've gotten right to the top, right
Speaker 4: at the right. Now I'm at the pinnacle. This is it.
Speaker 4: I got a key to the garden. I can't get
Speaker 4: in any door I want. And this was he was
Speaker 4: so proud of that and was so so excited to
Speaker 4: show me that he had the key. It was funny.
Speaker 1: Scottie, Dad, we'll set you loose.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: You can't thank you enough. I know you both have
Speaker 1: things to do. So this has been awesome. Travel safe
Speaker 1: and we'll chat soon.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, sir.
Speaker 4: All right, Thanks guys, Scott Labe so much. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Scott by Dad. Scott Laden live in Vegas. Dave Checketts
Speaker 1: live in New York. Richard Smith live in Salt Lake,