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<v Speaker 1>Yea ripped off needed.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so you don't have.

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<v Speaker 3>Come running just as fast as we can. Shooter's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>help coming.

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<v Speaker 4>Man Dix is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, hey, hey Tom Martino. You're Troubleshooter. Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on in your life? This is Car Day today,

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<v Speaker 2>which means we have our car expert or experts, and

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<v Speaker 2>we have Kevin Caulkin, Uncle Kevin from Sheridan Auto Tech.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I see pretty Sus sitting there along with

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<v Speaker 2>pretty Mark, and uh, welcome to the show. How about

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<v Speaker 2>pretty Doc? Now, oh, I don't see I don't see you, Doc.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they purposely kept you off camera. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>little off balance there. Whoever framed that shot? For those

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<v Speaker 2>streaming YouTube, go to YouTube, just move it over a little, thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Su Sus is coming up to move that. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>let me talk to everyone. Did we make a mistake?

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<v Speaker 2>So I remember one time watching this guy back before

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<v Speaker 2>it was popular, and he was an artist painting on

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<v Speaker 2>a canvas and he was doing it to rock music.

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<v Speaker 2>I forget this guy's name. I think it was Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll think but anyway, so he's doing rock music

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<v Speaker 2>and making scribbles on this canvas, and you think he's

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<v Speaker 2>a nut, and you think, get rid of this cat,

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of this cat. He's crazy. This is not art.

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<v Speaker 2>So then what happens is, Yeah, his name was Denny Dent.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he died, Yeah, he died. Anyway, Danny Dent

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<v Speaker 2>was making all these scribbles and it looked crazy. It

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<v Speaker 2>looked like he didn't know what he was doing. He

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<v Speaker 2>looked like he was insane, and he looks at the

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<v Speaker 2>audience like, hey, how am I doing? You know, and

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<v Speaker 2>people would clap and we thought, what is this? Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's just modern art. Then toward the end, he turns

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<v Speaker 2>it upside down and it's a portrait of someone mark.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever seen this guy? Has anyone ever seen

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<v Speaker 2>this guy? Deputy Doc and I have not? Okay, now

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<v Speaker 2>what am I liking in this too? Well, Trump's got

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<v Speaker 2>some paintbrushes in his hand and he's painting. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if I should be afraid because all hell's

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<v Speaker 2>breaking loose and it's going to be the ugliest thing

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, or he's suddenly going to adjust things

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<v Speaker 2>for us to see. It is a ladder, it's terrifying.

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<v Speaker 2>It's terrifying.

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<v Speaker 5>Watch the Dow drop over three thousand points in two days.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, it is terrifying. But I have my I have

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<v Speaker 6>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>You want to hear some of the tariffs and other

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<v Speaker 7>countries place on US goods.

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<v Speaker 8>Let me give you a rundown.

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<v Speaker 7>Vietnam is forty six percent, India's twenty six percent, Switzerland

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<v Speaker 7>thirty one percent, Indonesia thirty seven percent, Japan twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>No, wait, doc, doc, are you saying are you saying

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<v Speaker 2>that before this trade war those were in effect?

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<v Speaker 9>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we all know it's not fair. But man, was

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<v Speaker 5>this quick? Here's here's what. I thought we'd be a

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<v Speaker 5>little up today, honestly from yesterday. But when China hit

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<v Speaker 5>us back with that thirty four percent, what's going to

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<v Speaker 5>be interesting is what our move is next with China.

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<v Speaker 6>The rest of it I don't worry about. I mean, hell,

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<v Speaker 6>we're there.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you believe just one quick question before I get

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<v Speaker 2>into what I wanted to say, do you believe that

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<v Speaker 2>a president should have that power?

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<v Speaker 6>Absolute?

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<v Speaker 2>Laterally? Absolutely? You don't think Congress should be in on

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<v Speaker 2>these tariffs? No?

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<v Speaker 6>Not on the tariffs? No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Now here's what I want to say. So we

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<v Speaker 2>have all of this happening, and does he know what

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<v Speaker 2>he's doing? Is he a genius? Or is it? And

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<v Speaker 2>then another thing, even if his plan does work, it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna take three or four years. No, So is.

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<v Speaker 6>He not bring the stock market back?

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<v Speaker 10>No way, three or no.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, not to mark, Not for the stock market.

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking about.

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<v Speaker 10>For manufacturing, building plants and everything else.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but look at all the money, Look at all

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<v Speaker 6>the pledges. At least of money coming in.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean Apple five hundred billion dollars to.

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<v Speaker 10>Four years to get that money.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true, that's true.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's gonna be here, yes, yes, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have Pat Jolive with me, he's my chief

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<v Speaker 2>investment officer over at Wave eight Wealth Management. We're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the market. And one thing he noted is, and

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, Warren Buffett always believed, these are the opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>This is when you buy. This is when you go

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<v Speaker 2>out and find quality companies and you buy. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>explained Pat explained that, I mean, a quality company didn't

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<v Speaker 2>go bad all of a sudden.

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<v Speaker 6>So are you looking for bargains?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 11>Absolutely, that there's a major sell off going on. If

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<v Speaker 11>you've got cash or in position of strength, that would

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<v Speaker 11>be the time to be investment.

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<v Speaker 2>And when it bounces, you make big.

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<v Speaker 12>Hey, you want to be there for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we were talking about a lot of people don't

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<v Speaker 2>take Warren Buffett's advice and they sell.

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<v Speaker 6>And then once you sell, you lock in your loss.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So there's a lot of people who sold to

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<v Speaker 2>a point where we have more cash than in history.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark you you understand it goes from stocks and bonds

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<v Speaker 2>to cash, cash to socks and bonds, back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>When when the expression going to cash means that you

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<v Speaker 2>sold and you're sitting on cash, right, and that sits

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<v Speaker 2>in your investment account as cash, right, Yes, and in

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<v Speaker 2>some investment accounts you make like four percent or something

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<v Speaker 2>depending on Okay. So some of these people are a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of them, more than ever, have sold off and

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<v Speaker 2>are at cash. But here's something you need to know.

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<v Speaker 2>The more cash sitting on the sidelines, the bigger the comeback. Right.

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<v Speaker 11>Explain that, Well, that's true, and it's not just individuals,

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<v Speaker 11>as a matter of fact, it's probably more institutional excuse

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<v Speaker 11>me type money of the pension funds and so on,

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<v Speaker 11>and so they have known liabilities in the form of

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<v Speaker 11>defined benefit pension plans, and they have to have the

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<v Speaker 11>market or the money in the market eventually to keep

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<v Speaker 11>pace with what their future liability is.

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<v Speaker 2>And so but it has to go back to the market.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to go back there. I mean, no one,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't run the country when you have a retirement

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<v Speaker 2>fund or you have a giant fund or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to go back. So if you're in cash,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to go back, absolutely. And that represents great

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<v Speaker 2>selling opportunities, right, I.

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<v Speaker 11>Mean, well, it represents great buying opportunities in the market.

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<v Speaker 2>Cash is buying now. But when cash comes into the market,

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<v Speaker 2>the market is going to rebound in a big way.

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<v Speaker 12>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 11>And then you know, you look at it from the

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<v Speaker 11>other side, and the value that you have in the

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<v Speaker 11>investments that you that you own in your portfolio, that

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<v Speaker 11>value is going to increase, and then you can you

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<v Speaker 11>can start looking to your point of taking some profits

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<v Speaker 11>and making sales and so on. But it's it's this

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<v Speaker 11>is a sort of an unprecedented thing, and the market

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<v Speaker 11>does not like unknowns, right, and so.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, we're going to go to callers three or

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<v Speaker 2>three seven one three talk about Mark really, what's going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen now, because a lot of the big forecasters

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<v Speaker 2>have said, instead of being at sixty eight at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the year, we're going to be at five

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<v Speaker 2>thousand or fifty two hundred or whatever. Then what you

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<v Speaker 2>have are people then being hesitant. And it calls what

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<v Speaker 2>and I call the whole thing perception omics, because perception omics.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, not one thing, value, not one thing has changed.

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<v Speaker 5>If you stop at Walmart, King Christ today, there's not

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<v Speaker 5>a damn thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's exactly the company didn't suddenly go bad.

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<v Speaker 5>That Ford or Chevy cost me the exact same amount

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<v Speaker 5>of money it did last week.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, but the perception is going to keep going

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<v Speaker 2>and going going, and and great companies who have stock values,

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<v Speaker 2>the stock's going to go to the Well, what's going

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<v Speaker 2>to have to tell you to stay?

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<v Speaker 5>It's going to be great for the big companies. And

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<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you why. Their stock price is going to

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<v Speaker 5>go down. They're going to start buybacks. Then the price

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<v Speaker 5>is going to go back up to where it was

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<v Speaker 5>a few days ago, and.

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<v Speaker 6>You're going to own a lot more of their own company.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Ryan, what's going on with you?

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<v Speaker 13>Ryan?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm Tom Martino, Hey, thanks for taking my call just

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<v Speaker 9>real quick.

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<v Speaker 14>I love the show.

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<v Speaker 9>I listened to you pretty much daily. But uh, I'm

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<v Speaker 9>thank you. She got she got scammed, and uh.

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<v Speaker 2>How did she? How did she get scammed?

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<v Speaker 9>So the PCH Publishing and Clearing House, She said that

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<v Speaker 9>she was at some point anyway she got so.

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<v Speaker 14>She thought this was legit.

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<v Speaker 9>She gets a direct phone call from this guy gave

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<v Speaker 9>her her his name and everything from a four to

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<v Speaker 9>seven zero number. Anyway, long story short, he got her

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<v Speaker 9>saying that she's won millions of dollars at twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 9>five Chevy four by four blah blah blah. But in

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<v Speaker 9>order to release the prize money, you know how the

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<v Speaker 9>scam goes, you're gonna have to give us so much money.

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<v Speaker 9>They first first wanted her to give her two thousand.

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<v Speaker 9>She didn't have that.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, why did they want the money? What was the money?

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<v Speaker 2>What excuse did they give for the money?

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<v Speaker 9>From what she told me, it was like delivery fee

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<v Speaker 9>on the truck and to release the prizes basically with

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<v Speaker 9>a release all right, you hold on.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to hear what happened. I want to hear

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<v Speaker 2>if there's anything we can do you know so many

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<v Speaker 2>people right now are being scammed. They say this error

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<v Speaker 2>has more scamm billions and billions of dollars a year

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<v Speaker 2>go to scammers. It's amazing to me. I'm Tom Martinez.

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<v Speaker 2>here three o three seven one three talk seven one

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<v Speaker 2>three eight two five five. Ryan says his friend was

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<v Speaker 2>publisher's clearinghouse. By the way, this is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>more common scams, and it's called pay to win, and

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's either sales tax you have to pay, or

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<v Speaker 2>but you're thinking, what's wrong with a few grand when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to make hundreds of thousands? So Ryan, in

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<v Speaker 2>this case specifically, how much did they say she one?

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<v Speaker 14>Total?

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<v Speaker 9>They said that she want a pickup truck and about

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<v Speaker 9>eighteen million, and that she would get.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, ten dollars eighteen million? Okay? Now, now how

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<v Speaker 14>Okay?

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<v Speaker 9>Was she only got due for seven hundred and fifty dollars?

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<v Speaker 6>Thank god?

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<v Speaker 2>Now when did you get aware of this? And did

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<v Speaker 9>I was made aware of it after the fact and

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<v Speaker 9>she was okay?

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<v Speaker 2>And why was her loss only seven hundred? Talked about

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<v Speaker 2>how she went into the deal and the seven hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and why it was only seven hundred go ahead.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, So this guy calls says, I am from publishing clearinghouse.

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<v Speaker 9>You want all these prizes. In order to get the prizes,

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<v Speaker 9>you have to pay us. You know, I think they

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<v Speaker 9>told her at first two grand, and she's like, no,

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<v Speaker 9>I can't, but this is.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I'm shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyhow, I know for this, I know, I know, keep

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<v Speaker 9>When I heard it, I was like, wow, Sue that

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but keep going with her story. So so she

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<v Speaker 9>Two grand, right, and so she ended up paying seven

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<v Speaker 9>to fifty. Well, and the way that they did that

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<v Speaker 9>was they texted her a PayPal screen and had her

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<v Speaker 9>go and put five hundred dollars on the PayPal screen

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<v Speaker 9>that they texted from a different number. By the way,

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<v Speaker 9>this came from a different number.

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<v Speaker 15>So she put the five.

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<v Speaker 9>Hundred dollars because that's all PayPal would allow in a day,

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<v Speaker 9>is five hundred. Then they said, well, in order to

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<v Speaker 9>one of these money packs, which is like a debit

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<v Speaker 9>card thing. And right on the bag, I said, beware

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<v Speaker 2>With bigod bread.

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<v Speaker 9>Anyway, she paid the extra two hundred and fifty on

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<v Speaker 9>that scratched off the back. It gave the guy the

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<v Speaker 9>number and boom ran off and then number with the

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<v Speaker 9>money's gone. Then yesterday, just yesterday. This happened on March

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<v Speaker 9>twenty seven. Yesterday, when she's telling me this story, he

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<v Speaker 9>calls and I said, don't answer it, just because I

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<v Speaker 9>was going to rip into him.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was like, man, hey, does she have a

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<v Speaker 2>number where we can call this guy?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I have a number. I have a couple numbers.

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<v Speaker 9>You want me to tell you?

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to give them to him. I want

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<v Speaker 2>you to give me off the air. I want you

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<v Speaker 2>to give him.

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<v Speaker 6>Or they're all I mean, there are people sitting in Jamaica.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And so what did did she ever talk to

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<v Speaker 2>this guy again?

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<v Speaker 9>I think she's been ignoring him, but he's been calling

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<v Speaker 9>her back. And he called her back yesterday when she

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<v Speaker 9>was telling me this whole story, and I said, don't answer.

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<v Speaker 2>What does he want now? So he does he know

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<v Speaker 2>that she's hip to the SCAN?

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<v Speaker 9>I think he does now, because actually he did call

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<v Speaker 9>back and I answered it for her, and I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 9>this is the FBI Fraud Department.

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<v Speaker 2>How may I help you, and what did he do?

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<v Speaker 14>Now? I scared him off?

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<v Speaker 2>But oh yeah, now he probably You know what though,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get that number off the air.

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<v Speaker 6>Where do you think he's calling from? Did he have

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<v Speaker 6>an accent?

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<v Speaker 14>He didn't really have enough.

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<v Speaker 9>He didn't have an accent. But the two numbers that

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<v Speaker 9>I got, the number that he called from is a

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<v Speaker 9>four to seven zero number area code, and then the.

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<v Speaker 2>Those numbers mean nothing. They mean nothing, right, and then

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<v Speaker 2>the other numbers. But I have two numbers. So what

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<v Speaker 2>were you calling about? Were you? Were you?

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<v Speaker 6>Does she realize she just lost that money for good?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, that's what I told her.

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<v Speaker 9>But I told her I would call you guys, just

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<v Speaker 9>to see if there's anything that she can do.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, you know, not in this case. That that

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<v Speaker 2>debit card is prepaid, it's gone. And and the other

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<v Speaker 2>one the PayPal, Hey she paid. Now she might want

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<v Speaker 2>to try PayPal. I mean, I don't know. I see,

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<v Speaker 2>I have very little knowledge of PayPal. Mark do you

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<v Speaker 2>know about PayPal? Do you think they'll give her money back? Hell? No?

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<v Speaker 9>Now, I mean I had the barcode. She took a

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<v Speaker 9>screenshot of the barcode that she sent it to and.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait But let me just say something, Tom.

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<v Speaker 7>They won't give it back because she wasn't he the

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<v Speaker 7>caller did not take the money from her.

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<v Speaker 2>She voluntarily gave.

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<v Speaker 14>Him the money, gave him the money.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, how do you know they won't How do you

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<v Speaker 5>know they because we've never seen it happen in fifteen Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you know I've had that would be So what you're

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<v Speaker 5>saying is PayPal. And I know you're not saying this time,

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<v Speaker 5>but if they gave the money back, PayPal got screwed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're right, you're right. I thought PayPal had some protection.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody really familiar with PayPal let us know. Wasn't PayPal

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<v Speaker 2>started by Elon Musk. Yes, yes, my wife had telling

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<v Speaker 2>us one of this.

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<v Speaker 9>If she would have had paid from her own PayPal account,

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<v Speaker 9>then she would have had a chance to recoup some

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<v Speaker 9>of that money. But because they sent her a barcode

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<v Speaker 9>to their PayPal debit card and she paid voluntarily with

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<v Speaker 9>a debit card, then there's no way that PayPal will

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<v Speaker 9>do anything about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm glad you called those because it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>help other people. Three oh three seven one three eight,

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<v Speaker 2>five to five. Jay, you have an investment question.

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<v Speaker 16>Go ahead, Jay, So the first of all PayPal.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, they're great if you do everything right.

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<v Speaker 16>That's my question. I'll boil it down to the question

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<v Speaker 16>first and explain it. Is there any reason to bother

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<v Speaker 16>with this? Here's a situation that me and almost every

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<v Speaker 16>workaday friend I have is yet at some point we

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<v Speaker 16>all have five or ten grand, we're never going to

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<v Speaker 16>touch because we you know, it's a small, tiny, right,

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<v Speaker 16>but we're never gonna mess with It's always.

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<v Speaker 14>Gonna be there.

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<v Speaker 16>Is there anything to bother doing with that?

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<v Speaker 14>Or is it there?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Yes, there is, there is. And again I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you exactly what it is. Coming right back. I'm Tom Martino.

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<v Speaker 2>Stick around for more on the Troubleshooter Show. What do

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<v Speaker 2>you do with ten or twenty grand? We'll let you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I can attest to it now, Jass, what does a

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<v Speaker 2>workaday guy do with twenty or thirty or at fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>or twenty or ten or fifteen. Well, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you first and foremost, I don't recommend anything unless

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<v Speaker 2>you have an emergency fund. In addition to that, if

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<v Speaker 2>you have an emergency fund, then that's pretty good. Then

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<v Speaker 2>you keep that emergency fund. And if you have high

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<v Speaker 2>interest debt, I would recommend paying down the high interest set.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's say you don't have a lot of high

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<v Speaker 2>interest debt, because if you do have high interest debt

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<v Speaker 2>and you put it into a modest cash investment, the

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<v Speaker 2>cash you have, you're losing money every month. If you

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<v Speaker 2>pay off the high interest debt, you'll be making money quicker.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay. So that being said, get rid of high

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<v Speaker 2>interest debt, pay it down, or have an emergency fund.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do with another fifteen or twenty pat,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to ask you, and basically I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>chime in first. I believe one of the best investments

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<v Speaker 2>I do with idle cash is I went to Treasurydirect,

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<v Speaker 2>dot com or dot gob. I forget just but a

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<v Speaker 2>Treasury Direct and I open up an account. Now, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to put any money in the account, but

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<v Speaker 2>what you can do is hcch money over to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever you have idle cash. So, Jay, if you would

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<v Speaker 2>put fifteen or twenty grand, or ten or fifteen whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>even ten, you put it into Treasury Direct and go

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<v Speaker 2>for an auction of T bills. Now T bills can

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<v Speaker 2>be one week, two weeks, three weeks, four weeks, so

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<v Speaker 2>I do four week increments. Every four weeks, I participate

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<v Speaker 2>in the T bill purchase, and I have never failed

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<v Speaker 2>to make four percent or more. Every now and then

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<v Speaker 2>you make less than four but sometimes you make six percent.

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<v Speaker 2>It depends on that week. When people are feeling weak

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<v Speaker 2>about the economy, they go over to T bills, and

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<v Speaker 2>when they feel strong about the economy. The T bills

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<v Speaker 2>do a little less, but it's very safe, I believe.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm going to turn over to Pat. What do

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<v Speaker 2>you say, Pat, what would you do with that amount

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<v Speaker 2>of money if someone came to us?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I agree, I think that's a that's a great strategy,

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<v Speaker 11>particularly if you want to have it be backed by

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<v Speaker 11>the US govern bills.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 11>But we use example for his example, a senior Invesco

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<v Speaker 11>senior loan portfolio. It's an ETF that owns institutionally leveraged loans.

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<v Speaker 11>And uh, it's shielding. Oh, it's shielding right at seven

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<v Speaker 11>percent right now, right now? Yeah, and it's fully liquid.

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<v Speaker 11>It's not insured.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, imagine that. Imagine this no fund seven percent right

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<v Speaker 2>now when everyone doesn't.

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<v Speaker 11>Know what seven point zero eight percent is the thirty

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<v Speaker 11>day yield on it and the price is pretty stable

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<v Speaker 11>the last So.

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<v Speaker 6>What are the smallest increments you can do.

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<v Speaker 12>As small as you like. There's no minimum.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 11>No, You're just buying an ETF and the ETF owns Jay.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep in mind, it's called an ETF, which stands for

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<v Speaker 2>exchange traded fund. Correct, And what fund is it?

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<v Speaker 11>Specifically BKL and Bravo Keilo Lima November.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you get that, Jane doesn't take much yeap bk

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<v Speaker 11>Bravo Keilo Lima November Invesco Senior Loan ETF.

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<v Speaker 2>So you make that much money in a market like this,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd be crazy to let it sit idle or t

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<v Speaker 2>bills again. But Jay, here's what I want to say.

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<v Speaker 2>If you ever want, and I'm not trying to hit you,

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<v Speaker 2>wave A Wealth Management will take any client ten grand,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty grand, and we have very reduced rates for guys

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<v Speaker 2>like you, and we will will help you along the

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<v Speaker 2>way because our theory is we help someone who's a

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<v Speaker 2>small investor, they become a big investor eventually with our help.

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<v Speaker 16>So if I say, I got myself my daughter, so

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<v Speaker 16>I have here something stupid, and you can laugh at

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<v Speaker 16>me if you want, I have a bunch of silver

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<v Speaker 16>coins laying around. You know what they're worth, Yeah, almost

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<v Speaker 16>exactly what I paid for him fifteen years ago. They

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<v Speaker 16>just starts me nuts.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but sometimes they go pretty far up in value.

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<v Speaker 16>I would have a nice They go up and down

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<v Speaker 16>so bad, it's ridiculous, but they're so slow. I'd like

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<v Speaker 16>to get rid of at least half of that. I

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<v Speaker 16>have all kinds of things I've bought that are worth

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<v Speaker 16>quite a bit of money.

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<v Speaker 14>You should and they're literally.

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<v Speaker 16>Playing around in my closets.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to make Do you have, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>do you have a four oh one k or an irah?

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<v Speaker 16>My wife does. She has a she's set up with

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<v Speaker 16>our buddy to do. He's always on here, Joe Kiano

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<v Speaker 16>set up real well. Okay, so I think we're good there.

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<v Speaker 16>But good stuff, you know. I just have stuff I

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<v Speaker 16>bought because I got it cheap, and it's worth a

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<v Speaker 16>lot more. And now if I sell it, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 16>a pile of cash.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, here, here's what I'm saying, Jay, what you ought

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<v Speaker 2>to do. When you say a polycash, Remember those two

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<v Speaker 2>things we gave you are are very low risk and

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<v Speaker 2>very very good returns. Okay, Now, there are many other options,

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<v Speaker 2>but I want to make this clear. We work with everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't mean there's no such thing as the client's

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<v Speaker 2>too small. That's what makes us different. And and because

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<v Speaker 2>you called in, I just wanted to tell you about it.

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<v Speaker 6>So here's the deal. There are times they.

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<v Speaker 2>Are so small we'll tell someone what to do and

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<v Speaker 2>not even take them on as a client. Just say here,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't you try this or this and we can

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<v Speaker 2>do that with you. Or you can just give us

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<v Speaker 2>a call at three oh three seven seven one helped

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<v Speaker 2>seven seven one four three five seven and we'd be

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<v Speaker 2>happy to help you. So another thing we can as

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<v Speaker 2>outside business, we can hook you up with investments using

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<v Speaker 2>your retirement money. Not many people know how to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you have investments you want to do and

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<v Speaker 2>you want to use retirement money because that's the only

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<v Speaker 2>lump sum you have, I'm one of the only people

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<v Speaker 2>that can set you up to do that if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to use retirement money. Talk Okay, now, let's keep going. Chris, Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>what is going on with this insurance company? Explain this

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<v Speaker 2>to us? Chris, good morning?

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<v Speaker 17>Is this Mark or Tom?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey?

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<v Speaker 6>It's Tom and Mark. Mark's there too. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 17>Well, hey, good morning, both guys. I'm a new listener.

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<v Speaker 17>I was referred by the neighbor Robin, and.

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<v Speaker 14>So my fiance.

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<v Speaker 17>Amelia and I were at home watching TV. This has

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<v Speaker 17>actually been almost four months now, and we heard yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 17>we heard a banging on the door, and so we

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<v Speaker 17>don't get many guests. So I went and checked the

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<v Speaker 17>door and our neighbor, Dexter little boy was in tears,

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<v Speaker 17>frantic telling telling us to come outside and there was

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<v Speaker 17>a huge accident and who was really upset, and so

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<v Speaker 17>we followed them downstairs and there was a huge commotion.

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<v Speaker 17>We live in Greeley on eighth Avenue, so it's a

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<v Speaker 17>commercial building. We're on the second floor. So at any rate,

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<v Speaker 17>uh when uh our cars, both of our cars were

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<v Speaker 17>parked alongside the building and eighth Avenue, and there were

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<v Speaker 17>two trucks that had uh they had hit each other

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<v Speaker 17>and they wiped out and ended up hitting Robin's car

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<v Speaker 17>and then both of ours, and so it was a

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<v Speaker 17>it was a bad accident. One of our vehicles was

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<v Speaker 17>completely totaled. Robbins was completely totaled. Our new vehicle, we

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<v Speaker 17>had just got a new VW at Lias and in

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<v Speaker 17>love with that thing, and we got like a special edition,

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<v Speaker 17>so it was a rare model and so it was

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<v Speaker 17>just and then the other her car, Amelia's car was

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<v Speaker 17>sentimental from her grandfather and it wasn't worth a whole

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<v Speaker 17>bunch of value. It is the bottom line. But it

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<v Speaker 17>was one of them older bubble Mercuries and it was

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<v Speaker 17>to really it was an ultimate edition with a v

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<v Speaker 17>a nice VAH soup up model.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, but how much? But hold on a second,

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<v Speaker 2>hold on, Chris, are you going to complain about what

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<v Speaker 2>the insurance offered you? Or was it the other guy's

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<v Speaker 2>insurance or your insurance?

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<v Speaker 17>So it turns out that I mean to avoid the deductible.

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<v Speaker 17>There was one one of the truck drivers was a

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<v Speaker 17>fall and and it was that was obvious, so there

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<v Speaker 17>wasn't any issues. But what happened is they had a

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<v Speaker 17>really really low plan.

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<v Speaker 16>Chris.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what I need to know, Chris, I need to

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<v Speaker 2>know this. This truck ran into your vehicles. Is his

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<v Speaker 2>insurance covering your vehicles?

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<v Speaker 17>Well, they're supposed to. They spent almost four months and

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<v Speaker 17>we're still waiting and apparently it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, So has have they ever? Have they

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<v Speaker 2>ever made you an offer or said anything about your vehicles?

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<v Speaker 17>They just know they've been they've been not they haven't responded.

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<v Speaker 17>It took them, well, they haven't responded to me once fiance.

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<v Speaker 17>They it took them over two months to respond. We

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<v Speaker 17>we have we sent like four documents that were well written.

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<v Speaker 18>We used.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, who are they? Who is this this other driver?

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<v Speaker 2>Who was this Insuranaran's company? Uh?

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<v Speaker 17>The one in fault is Mendota.

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<v Speaker 2>And Mendoza was what and do you know did he

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<v Speaker 2>have it up to date? Was his insurance policy up

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<v Speaker 2>to date?

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 17>There was?

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<v Speaker 2>And did you do you have the name and a

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<v Speaker 2>number of any adjusters you talked to at Mendoza?

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah? Honey, what was the names again of the adjusters?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what what I want to do is

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<v Speaker 2>get Deputy Doc to call over there. Deputy Doc during

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<v Speaker 2>the show, even why don't you call over and ask

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<v Speaker 2>why aren't they at least, you know, moving forward to

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<v Speaker 2>help these people? Are they did? Did they pay for

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<v Speaker 2>any rental cars?

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<v Speaker 17>No? That's the thing we're we were messed up financially.

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<v Speaker 17>We weren't ready for all the upfront seat.

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<v Speaker 2>When did this happen? When did this happen?

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<v Speaker 16>Bro?

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<v Speaker 2>When did it happen?

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<v Speaker 14>It was?

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<v Speaker 17>What was the exact date? This is Jack humph It

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<v Speaker 17>was January fifteenth?

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<v Speaker 2>January. Okay, hang on, I'm gonna have Deputy Doc talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you off the air. I'm Tom Martine. We have

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<v Speaker 2>more coming up on the Troubleshooter Show, So listen to

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<v Speaker 2>It's for new customers, meaning you never had it done.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't have to be a brand new customer. But

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<v Speaker 2>if the people who have not had the thirty nine

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<v Speaker 2>dollars Extreme Clean three oh three five two six thirty

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<v Speaker 2>the real estate Man dot com to list your home

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<v Speaker 2>with Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two. Hi Tom Martine here three three seven one

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<v Speaker 2>three talks seven one three A two five five. All right, Danielle,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on with you? Danielle? How can we help you?

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<v Speaker 17>Hi?

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<v Speaker 18>I'm just trying to seek some type of help. Last

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<v Speaker 18>year you guys helped me with the situation, and I

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<v Speaker 18>was very pleased with it. From this time coming around,

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<v Speaker 18>I'm having a little bit of an issue and accomplice

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<v Speaker 18>which my previous job. I worked for a sprinkler company

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<v Speaker 18>and I was an office manager. There was been issue

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<v Speaker 18>between one and one of the bosses saying that I

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<v Speaker 18>have a job in the other boss telling me to

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<v Speaker 18>file for unemployment. I've been trying to reach out to

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<v Speaker 18>the boss who told me to file for unemployment.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, hold on a second, Wait a minute. How long

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<v Speaker 2>have you been working? How long have you been working

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<v Speaker 2>for the sprink company?

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<v Speaker 18>I was there for about seven months.

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<v Speaker 2>And then one boss said we're letting you go.

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<v Speaker 18>Well, one boss was actually very aggressive and told me

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<v Speaker 18>to clock out because he thought that I was doing

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<v Speaker 18>something on the clock that I was not doing that

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<v Speaker 18>he's seen on his cameras because it was like an

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<v Speaker 18>in home office.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so tell me walk out. So, so were you

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<v Speaker 2>fired or not?

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<v Speaker 18>That's where I don't know. I I don't.

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<v Speaker 19>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 18>I feel like it was almost to set up because

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<v Speaker 18>I had just told him there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, wait a minute, did you can Here's how

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<v Speaker 2>to tell if you're fired or not. Did you continue

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<v Speaker 2>working there?

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<v Speaker 18>No, I know I'm no longer there.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. And when did that happen?

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<v Speaker 18>That was about a month ago March third.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Now what are you calling about today?

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<v Speaker 18>I'm just trying to seek help from you guys. Like

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<v Speaker 18>I said, you guys got me last year, and I

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<v Speaker 18>don't know where to go with this, and I feel

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<v Speaker 18>like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was almost well go to go to I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>I here's what I don't understand, Dear, I'm serious. Now

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<v Speaker 2>go with what? Go You don't know where to go with? What?

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<v Speaker 14>With what?

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<v Speaker 2>When people are fired? People are fired every day. Are

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<v Speaker 2>you saying that it was an illegal firing?

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<v Speaker 18>Absolutely? That's how I feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel

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<v Speaker 2>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

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<v Speaker 2>when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot

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<v Speaker 2>three nine two zero sixteen twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ripped up new need advice, so you.

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<v Speaker 19>Don't have.

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<v Speaker 17>Come running.

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<v Speaker 3>Just as fast as we can, Shooter's gonna help come man.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the Troubleshooter Show. Now, Tom Martino.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show. Three oh

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<v Speaker 2>three seven one three talk seven one three eight two

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<v Speaker 2>five five. We're here to help you solve your problems

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<v Speaker 2>and answer questions, take complaints, and what do you say?

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<v Speaker 6>We go right to the phones your phone calls.

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<v Speaker 2>Take precedent at three oh three Martino three oh three

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<v Speaker 2>six two seven eight four sixty six or three oh

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<v Speaker 2>three seven one three talk seven one three eight two

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<v Speaker 2>five five. So Danielle we left off with, and I

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<v Speaker 2>looked up the law, and Danielle, if you're pregnant and

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<v Speaker 2>an employer fires you, they better damn well have a

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<v Speaker 2>real reason. I'm going to talk about some of that.

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<v Speaker 2>There's federal and Colorado state laws. Let's say, when you're

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<v Speaker 2>terminated and you're pregnant, it constitutes discrimination unless there is

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<v Speaker 2>a viable reason. Now it might be difficult to prove.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it says if your employer dismissed you without

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<v Speaker 2>a valid reason during pregnancy, then you could have some

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<v Speaker 2>compensation coming. Employers cannot terminate an employment to avoid associated

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<v Speaker 2>costs as well. Such actions can lead to legal consequences

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<v Speaker 2>and a cash awards you. Additionally, the Federal Pregnant Workers

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<v Speaker 2>Fairness Act. Wow, that's a mouthful. Pregnant Workers Fairness Act

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<v Speaker 2>went into effect twenty twenty three. It said, if you

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<v Speaker 2>work for a place with fifteen or more employees, they

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<v Speaker 2>not only have to keep you on unless they have

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<v Speaker 2>a valid reason that they have to make accommodations for you.

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<v Speaker 6>Now what you have to do? Are you still there?

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 18>I'm here.

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<v Speaker 2>What reason did they give you for firing you?

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<v Speaker 18>That's the thing, Missus Martinez. They never gave me a

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<v Speaker 18>reason one employee, one boss told me to apply for unemployment,

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<v Speaker 18>and the other one told me nothing. I've been waiting

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<v Speaker 18>for a letter.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm trying to reach out to them.

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<v Speaker 2>But wait a minute, Danielle. At some point, did you

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<v Speaker 2>work from home or did you go into the office.

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<v Speaker 18>I went into the office.

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<v Speaker 2>So, but at some point you no longer went into

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<v Speaker 2>the office. So I need to know that point in

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<v Speaker 2>time when you stop going into the office. A boss

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<v Speaker 2>came up to you and said, by the way, you

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<v Speaker 2>as well apply for unemployment because you're fired or exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>you're kind of hazy on when you were terminated.

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<v Speaker 18>See that I'm having I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I have not gone What do you mean you don't know.

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<v Speaker 18>I haven't gotten a response. I've been asking for a

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<v Speaker 18>letter of termination or something stating that I'm no longer wording.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Danielle, Danielle, here's what I'm asking. You're at work

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<v Speaker 2>and the guy says, does he just walk up and say, hey, Danielle,

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<v Speaker 2>apply for unemployment? Tell me the exact way it happened.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay.

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<v Speaker 18>So I had went to work March third, and I

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<v Speaker 18>get in home office. There are multiple cameras in the office.

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<v Speaker 18>I stepped away from my desk, and the guy who's

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<v Speaker 18>home that was I stepped away from my desk was

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<v Speaker 18>seeing that I was away from my desk for four minutes.

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<v Speaker 18>Four minutes. I went into the kitchen. The phones were

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<v Speaker 18>not I.

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<v Speaker 19>Just stepped away.

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<v Speaker 18>He then called the person who lived in the apartment

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<v Speaker 18>downstairs and was screaming on the phone, and I could

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<v Speaker 18>hear it from upstairs.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand what Wait, wait, wait, wait, you said

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<v Speaker 2>you were in the office. Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 18>It's an in home office.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>So they use a camera to see that people are working.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 6>And they saw that you were not at your office.

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<v Speaker 18>Oh yes, got the deak for four.

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<v Speaker 2>Minutes, okay. And what happened Then he.

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<v Speaker 18>Then started screaming to the family member that lived downstairs,

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<v Speaker 18>and then called my phone and got on the camera

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<v Speaker 18>and was screaming at me, calling me I need a

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<v Speaker 18>clock out, that he's not going to pay for me

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<v Speaker 18>to step away from my desk, and just was very vulgar,

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<v Speaker 18>and I was like, WHOA like I I didn't understand,

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<v Speaker 18>and I try to explain myself and he told me

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<v Speaker 18>just to clock out. So I clocked out. Obviously, I'm pregnant,

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<v Speaker 18>I'm crying, I'm upset. I leave.

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<v Speaker 20>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 18>He texted me later that day and he's like, we

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<v Speaker 18>can have a meeting, and I'm like, the way that

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<v Speaker 18>I've seen him treat his employees, I'm like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 18>having a meeting without the other owner present. The other

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<v Speaker 18>owner who then stated that he would not be present

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<v Speaker 18>and that the business was then closing because he doesn't

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<v Speaker 18>want to deal with this guy's attitude so he told

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<v Speaker 18>me my.

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<v Speaker 2>Back and what was his file for So then, Danielle,

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<v Speaker 2>that was your last day. Danielle, that was your last

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<v Speaker 2>day you clocked in right, Okay? So then after that,

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<v Speaker 2>did you apply for unemployment?

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<v Speaker 13>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>And what happened?

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<v Speaker 18>I am still in the progress of filing for unemployment,

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<v Speaker 18>but I feel like they are trying to fight it

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<v Speaker 18>just because.

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<v Speaker 6>None of it matters. If you put in for it,

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<v Speaker 6>you're going to get it.

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<v Speaker 19>Well, I hope you, because this is.

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<v Speaker 18>Not I'm not the only employee who has been treated.

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<v Speaker 2>But hold on a second, Danielle, did you were you

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<v Speaker 2>covered by their insurance?

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<v Speaker 18>They were a beginning starting business. I just started up

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<v Speaker 18>with them, and I don't believe at that time they had.

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<v Speaker 6>Insurance for us, Danielle.

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<v Speaker 2>Danielle, when you took the job, were you an employee

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<v Speaker 2>or ten ninety nine?

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<v Speaker 18>I was an.

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<v Speaker 2>Employee, but you knew you didn't have insurance. So you

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<v Speaker 2>can't get them on that discrimination to get out of

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<v Speaker 2>the payment because they weren't going to pay for your

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<v Speaker 2>pregnancy anyway, right.

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<v Speaker 18>No, they told me at the time to file for

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<v Speaker 18>FMLA once I had the baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that has nothing to do with them. So

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<v Speaker 2>here's what I'm asking. You took that job without health insurance,

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<v Speaker 2>right express. Okay, so we can't take that road. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Well it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You weren't covered,

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<v Speaker 2>So we can't say they were trying to get out

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<v Speaker 2>of paying for your pregnancy. How can you say that

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<v Speaker 2>when they weren't going to pay for it anyway.

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<v Speaker 18>Because at that time everything was changing. They were just

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<v Speaker 18>applying for insurance for us, everything was to be changing.

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<v Speaker 18>I was the office manager. I was helping them.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're saying, you're saying that they were getting ready

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<v Speaker 2>to get some benefits going that they didn't want you

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<v Speaker 2>on there.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how I feel.

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<v Speaker 18>That's how I feel.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't let me. I want to ask.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to ask integer insurance.

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<v Speaker 2>What's that I play a quick devil's advocate here.

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<v Speaker 21>She requested that she was told to punch out for sure,

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<v Speaker 21>so that can be interpreted as she is fired. But

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<v Speaker 21>then she requested a meeting in which to the which

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<v Speaker 21>she denied because.

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<v Speaker 2>They requested a meeting that she turned down.

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<v Speaker 21>Correct, So that could imply she quit because she didn't

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<v Speaker 21>want to come to the meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true, my status, very true.

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<v Speaker 5>And you can get in the state of Colorado unemployment

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<v Speaker 5>for almost anything. People can steal from your company and

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<v Speaker 5>they'll give you unemployment. So just fill out for it

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<v Speaker 5>and you're gonna get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Mark, I know you're taking some of this from

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<v Speaker 2>personal experience with us.

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<v Speaker 5>And I had someone we add a thousand employees in

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<v Speaker 5>my life like nobody, nobody, no matter why I fired him, ever,

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<v Speaker 5>did not receive unemployment.

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<v Speaker 2>I had someone. Listen to this, listen to this. I

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<v Speaker 2>had someone steal from me, absolutely use the company credit

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<v Speaker 2>card to find authors purchases for them. Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 2>what I was told by the state. Well was there

801
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<v Speaker 2>a policy against stealing? And I said what they said,

802
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:56.800
<v Speaker 2>did you have a written policy against stealing? And I said, well, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I didn't. I had to have a written

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<v Speaker 2>policy against stealing or I couldn't fire for cause that's

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<v Speaker 2>from the state, Danielle. The way I look at it

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<v Speaker 2>is this, none of this much matters unless you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't. Let's let's let me find Integra

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<v Speaker 2>Integra Insurance. I want to talk to either John or

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<v Speaker 2>John Jr. I want to find out if she could

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<v Speaker 2>have been retroactively covered anyway. Maybe it was a way

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<v Speaker 2>they wanted to get benefits for the company, and when

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<v Speaker 2>they found out having someone pregnant would be an extra load,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they did fire her because of that. But I

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<v Speaker 2>want to find out what would have happened if they

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<v Speaker 2>got insurance after the fact. Remember she was already hired

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<v Speaker 2>and already pregnant. So let's find that out and more

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<v Speaker 2>want to go to an expert on health insurance. John

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<v Speaker 2>Jones Jr. All right, Sir John Jones Junior. That's JJJ

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<v Speaker 2>triple J. I'm gonna start calling his rap name, triple

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<v Speaker 2>J triple J. What's uh? Hey? John? So this woman

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<v Speaker 2>works for a company and she's pregnant. Now I want

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<v Speaker 2>you to tell me what would happen. She is suspecting

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<v Speaker 2>they fired her because she's pregnant and they are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get benefits on board and they didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>pay for her. So what I want to ask is.

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<v Speaker 3>This is she.

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<v Speaker 2>Is she right about this? If they were trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get benefits, they would be retroactively covering her pregnancy or

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<v Speaker 2>how would that work? If you are a company and

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<v Speaker 2>you have a group of employees they all have pre

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<v Speaker 2>existing conditions, and you start your coverage, what would happen.

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<v Speaker 15>Then they're just covered from that point forward? I mean,

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<v Speaker 15>it's not retroactive, right Like if you if you're if

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<v Speaker 15>you're a business and you're you're putting benefits in place

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<v Speaker 15>for your employees, health insurance in place, let's say for

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<v Speaker 15>a May first effective date when your employees sign up

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<v Speaker 15>and enrolled and they're covered from May first on.

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<v Speaker 2>But would her pregnancy be covered.

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<v Speaker 15>Of course, yeah, absolutely, I mean.

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<v Speaker 9>That's what Okay.

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<v Speaker 15>So, where there's employer plans through your employer or plans

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<v Speaker 15>through the individual marketplace, the vast majority of these plans

855
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:38.440
<v Speaker 15>are are affordable can't qualified. They they they cover pre

856
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:41.280
<v Speaker 15>existing conditions. And for a long time, I mean employer

857
00:46:41.480 --> 00:46:45.360
<v Speaker 15>employer coverage. I mean that that, even before the affordable

858
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:50.440
<v Speaker 15>character was a primary driver for employer coverage was that

859
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:53.400
<v Speaker 15>you get covered pre existing conditions.

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00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:56.800
<v Speaker 2>So, yes, okay, So here's what I want to know.

861
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not asking if it happened. I'm just asking, is

862
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:03.360
<v Speaker 2>there a scenario you could imagine where a company is

863
00:47:03.400 --> 00:47:06.800
<v Speaker 2>going out to get insurance and they have a pregnant

864
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:10.559
<v Speaker 2>person on board and they think that's detrimental because it's

865
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:13.159
<v Speaker 2>going to raise their premium or would that never even

866
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<v Speaker 2>come up?

867
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:19.880
<v Speaker 15>Well, it depends on the product. And I certainly don't

868
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:22.559
<v Speaker 15>want to speak to the intention of a company as

869
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:27.639
<v Speaker 15>far as this is concerned, and whether or not that

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00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:32.920
<v Speaker 15>company right terminated employee based you know, but no.

871
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:35.840
<v Speaker 2>But I'm asking you would there be Here's all I'm asking,

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00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:39.079
<v Speaker 2>is there a financial incentive by getting rid of someone

873
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:42.400
<v Speaker 2>who's pregnant or someone who has a serious disease or something.

874
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:47.719
<v Speaker 15>These potentially there are some products out there now fully

875
00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:51.079
<v Speaker 15>insured market, no, fully insured market. The rates are what

876
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:54.559
<v Speaker 15>the rates are in that rating area, and so that

877
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:57.079
<v Speaker 15>doesn't matter because it takes the pull of all the

878
00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:01.159
<v Speaker 15>groups in that rating area. And so no, but if

879
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:04.159
<v Speaker 15>it's a large company, they have options of things like

880
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:07.840
<v Speaker 15>what's called level funded where they're rating the premiums are

881
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:12.320
<v Speaker 15>based on the underwriting of that specific group and the

882
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:15.360
<v Speaker 15>risk of that specific group. So there are products that

883
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<v Speaker 15>exist that that somebody else could impact the group's ability

884
00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:24.400
<v Speaker 15>to get more affordable else and okay initially or that

885
00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:27.000
<v Speaker 15>level funded option. And so there's not enough for me

886
00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:27.679
<v Speaker 15>to know here.

887
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:28.239
<v Speaker 22>And again I.

888
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:30.360
<v Speaker 15>Don't want to speak to the intention of an employer.

889
00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:33.239
<v Speaker 2>No, no, I get it. No, No, what you're saying

890
00:48:33.280 --> 00:48:36.679
<v Speaker 2>makes total sense. It makes total sense. Danielle, Is this

891
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:48.679
<v Speaker 2>a very large company? Danielle did she go away? Yeah?

892
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:50.920
<v Speaker 6>This is this a large company?

893
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:53.800
<v Speaker 18>No, it is not. Is a small company.

894
00:48:55.599 --> 00:48:57.199
<v Speaker 2>How many employees.

895
00:48:58.159 --> 00:49:02.719
<v Speaker 18>Including myself at the time, I'm going to six ten

896
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:04.360
<v Speaker 18>at the most between six and ten.

897
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:08.679
<v Speaker 2>So, John, that would likely not have a coverage that

898
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:10.719
<v Speaker 2>would care about pre existing or a.

899
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:13.199
<v Speaker 15>Specifically a couple of carris. I mean, there are a

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00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:16.800
<v Speaker 15>couple of carriers that offer level funded products to groups

901
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:20.000
<v Speaker 15>that small, but most require at least ten employees or

902
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:22.559
<v Speaker 15>more to even participate in the plan to get that

903
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:23.559
<v Speaker 15>level funded options.

904
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<v Speaker 2>So that just doesn't you know, Thank you very much.

905
00:49:26.559 --> 00:49:29.679
<v Speaker 2>By the way, Integra Insurance for your insurance, your health

906
00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:32.880
<v Speaker 2>insurance checkups. Please call them three h three four six

907
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:35.480
<v Speaker 2>six fifty five hundred, even if it's not open enrollment,

908
00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:41.039
<v Speaker 2>call them about your options going forward. Now here's what

909
00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:45.239
<v Speaker 2>I want to say, Danielle. I truly think it's a

910
00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:49.400
<v Speaker 2>long shot. Okay, I really do. I don't think. I

911
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:52.280
<v Speaker 2>don't think you can make the case that they fired

912
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:56.880
<v Speaker 2>you for financial incentives. I don't. I mean you can.

913
00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I just personally don't think you would have to show

914
00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:04.360
<v Speaker 2>that they would financially benefit by letting you go and

915
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:08.800
<v Speaker 2>because of the insurance they were about to get. But

916
00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:10.719
<v Speaker 2>the fact that you are away from your desk for

917
00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:13.760
<v Speaker 2>four minutes, see, other than the pregnancy thing, they can

918
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:17.360
<v Speaker 2>fire you basically for anything, So you'd have to show

919
00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:20.480
<v Speaker 2>it is because you're pregnant, and I don't see the incentive.

920
00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:22.559
<v Speaker 2>They'll just say, well, why the heck would we fire

921
00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:25.440
<v Speaker 2>her because she's pregnant, And then you'd say, well, because

922
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:29.280
<v Speaker 2>you're getting coverage that's going to benefit if I'm not there,

923
00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:31.719
<v Speaker 2>and then you'd have to prove that. So I wouldn't

924
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:35.239
<v Speaker 2>even bother at this point. Go for unemployment. You're going

925
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:37.639
<v Speaker 2>to get unemployment, and that we can help you with

926
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:41.159
<v Speaker 2>because you know they fired you, and I don't think

927
00:50:41.199 --> 00:50:44.159
<v Speaker 2>they'll fight that unless being fired for cause you don't

928
00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:48.559
<v Speaker 2>get unemployment? Is that true? Mark? You said, everyone gets unemployment,

929
00:50:48.679 --> 00:50:51.800
<v Speaker 2>But what if you're fired for cause you still we

930
00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:54.039
<v Speaker 2>still find that they get on your things most of

931
00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:58.519
<v Speaker 2>the time unless you can prove what's going on. I

932
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:00.920
<v Speaker 2>still say she quits to show up for a meeting.

933
00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:04.079
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but a lot of that's what Dragon's thinking. A

934
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:07.480
<v Speaker 5>lot of those times that's where they end up getting paid.

935
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<v Speaker 2>All right, Joe, what's going on with employment? What's going

936
00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:14.199
<v Speaker 2>on with your check?

937
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:14.480
<v Speaker 14>Joe?

938
00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:15.280
<v Speaker 2>What's going on?

939
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:17.159
<v Speaker 20>Hey?

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00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:18.920
<v Speaker 23>I was just calling you guys. I have a couple

941
00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:22.719
<v Speaker 23>of different questions, but all look short because go ahead.

942
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:26.920
<v Speaker 15>I worked for a Gray Star it's a property.

943
00:51:26.519 --> 00:51:31.320
<v Speaker 23>Management company or doing maintenance, and yeah, I was I

944
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:36.199
<v Speaker 23>was being discriminated. My boss is calling me racial slurs,

945
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:40.639
<v Speaker 23>doing like, what, what do you want me to say?

946
00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:42.559
<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean like the end word. Well, no, no,

947
00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:43.480
<v Speaker 6>here's what I want to know.

948
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:46.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't want you to use vulgarity, Joe. I don't

949
00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:48.440
<v Speaker 2>want you to use vulgarity. But what was he saying

950
00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:51.840
<v Speaker 2>to you? Like, yeah, was it regarding being black? Being hispanic?

951
00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Being what?

952
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:56.639
<v Speaker 23>Yeah, being hispanic? Man, he's called me way.

953
00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:57.199
<v Speaker 20>Back, got it?

954
00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:02.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay? Okay? In the world literally, I mean he literally

955
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:03.800
<v Speaker 2>was calling you names.

956
00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:07.719
<v Speaker 23>Anybody getting unemployment, bro, it's not true. Glad to go

957
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:11.639
<v Speaker 23>through the appills process. Did you end up with against me?

958
00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:12.519
<v Speaker 2>Did you get it?

959
00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:13.800
<v Speaker 14>No?

960
00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:15.199
<v Speaker 23>I never got unemployment.

961
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Wow, Okay, tell us your story, Joe, tell us, Joe,

962
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:21.559
<v Speaker 2>tell us your story.

963
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:26.760
<v Speaker 23>Well, I was just working for for the property management

964
00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:29.159
<v Speaker 23>company Gray Star, and I.

965
00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:30.880
<v Speaker 15>Worked there for a couple of years.

966
00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:34.679
<v Speaker 23>I was doing good, doing good maintenance, and the guys

967
00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:38.840
<v Speaker 23>were just one of my maintenance supervisors. He was just

968
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:42.400
<v Speaker 23>sending me text messages, sending me like hundreds of text

969
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:47.719
<v Speaker 23>messages saying I'm short, little back Hispanic, and I mean

970
00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:50.639
<v Speaker 23>it's not fair man like. And I never got unemployment

971
00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:51.519
<v Speaker 23>from that company.

972
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:58.079
<v Speaker 2>And well, hold on though, you. Okay, So hold on.

973
00:52:58.159 --> 00:53:02.800
<v Speaker 2>So you were working at gray Star our property management, right, yes, sir,

974
00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:08.719
<v Speaker 2>and you were doing you were doing maintenance, yes, sir,

975
00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:14.880
<v Speaker 2>And then you kept getting texts from who was this

976
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:15.880
<v Speaker 2>a supervisor?

977
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:20.079
<v Speaker 23>Yeah? I was a maintenance supervisor. And I had told him, I.

978
00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:23.599
<v Speaker 2>Said, now did you did you keep those hold on man?

979
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Did you keep those texts?

980
00:53:26.719 --> 00:53:26.880
<v Speaker 4>Well?

981
00:53:26.920 --> 00:53:29.760
<v Speaker 23>I wasn't able to keep on because I had dropped

982
00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:33.039
<v Speaker 23>my phone because I was doing a work order at

983
00:53:33.639 --> 00:53:34.559
<v Speaker 23>an apartment.

984
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:40.159
<v Speaker 2>And so would he do this out of listen? Listen, listen.

985
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:43.440
<v Speaker 2>What I'm asking is this, was he doing this just

986
00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:45.599
<v Speaker 2>out of the blue? All of a sudden you would

987
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:48.400
<v Speaker 2>get a text that say, hey, we back, what are

988
00:53:48.400 --> 00:53:50.960
<v Speaker 2>you doing today? All tell me how that would work?

989
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:54.920
<v Speaker 23>No, I was just because, uh, because I put in

990
00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:58.480
<v Speaker 23>because I had like a bunch of paid time off

991
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:00.639
<v Speaker 23>and vacation time. So I put it in like and

992
00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:02.880
<v Speaker 23>I didn't approve it. I didn't get have to. I

993
00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:04.719
<v Speaker 23>didn't have to get it approved through him, but I

994
00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:09.119
<v Speaker 23>got it approved through my property manager. And he was like, oh,

995
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:12.519
<v Speaker 23>we don't need you anyways and all this stuff, you know.

996
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:17.480
<v Speaker 2>So okay, I get it. So he was upset. He

997
00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:19.920
<v Speaker 2>just didn't like you.

998
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:22.760
<v Speaker 23>No, well we're best we're like best friends, man, like

999
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:25.440
<v Speaker 23>we are you saying? Now they drink beers together, and

1000
00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:29.960
<v Speaker 23>but all of a sudden, he just could it be could.

1001
00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:32.480
<v Speaker 2>It be that he was calling you that in fun?

1002
00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:37.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not suggesting it should be, but could it be? Hey? Bro,

1003
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:38.559
<v Speaker 2>Hey went back? I mean, could he.

1004
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:42.599
<v Speaker 6>Have been doing that thinking it's just with something pamful?

1005
00:54:43.159 --> 00:54:47.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean I have to listen.

1006
00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:52.039
<v Speaker 23>It was fun at first, like it was fun at first,

1007
00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:55.239
<v Speaker 23>like we were just joking around, like because we had

1008
00:54:55.280 --> 00:54:57.880
<v Speaker 23>another couple of guys that were from like Venezuela and

1009
00:54:57.880 --> 00:55:01.039
<v Speaker 23>now Salvador that worked for us, and he was he

1010
00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:05.880
<v Speaker 23>makes a kid as well, Oh el Salvadorn and Ben

1011
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:06.320
<v Speaker 23>and Lennon.

1012
00:55:06.599 --> 00:55:10.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, no, no, no, I'm talking about your your

1013
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:16.800
<v Speaker 2>super your supervisor, your what is your supervisor? White?

1014
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:17.920
<v Speaker 23>Yeah? He is white?

1015
00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:22.679
<v Speaker 2>Got it. Here's the thing, Joe, if it was done

1016
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:28.800
<v Speaker 2>in jest in the beginning, at some point, if it

1017
00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:34.679
<v Speaker 2>became irritating, it doesn't constitute harassment unless you let them know.

1018
00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Let me give you an example. If someone is sexually inappropriate,

1019
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:42.440
<v Speaker 2>and I don't mean like having sex but just like

1020
00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:44.679
<v Speaker 2>maybe putting a hand on his shoulder or talking to

1021
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:49.119
<v Speaker 2>a female employee, and and it's taken in jest, and

1022
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:52.599
<v Speaker 2>the female employee is comfortable with it and doesn't care,

1023
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:55.400
<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden she does. She would

1024
00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:58.280
<v Speaker 2>have to make that known. And the same goes with

1025
00:55:58.440 --> 00:56:01.719
<v Speaker 2>racial stuff. Racial stuff, I think, you know, no matter

1026
00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:04.800
<v Speaker 2>what anyone thinks of it, there are people who do

1027
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:07.800
<v Speaker 2>it in jest, and they do it for fun, and

1028
00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:10.199
<v Speaker 2>they do it with each other. But then at some

1029
00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:14.480
<v Speaker 2>point you say enough is enough. You have to communicate that.

1030
00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:18.960
<v Speaker 2>So if at one time it was okay, did you

1031
00:56:19.039 --> 00:56:22.079
<v Speaker 2>finally say wait a minute, enough with the wet back stuff?

1032
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:25.840
<v Speaker 23>Yeah, I did. I told him a property manager, and

1033
00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:31.519
<v Speaker 23>I told HR everything I got like I got okay, good, HR.

1034
00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:34.639
<v Speaker 2>Okay good. So you made a record of it somewhere

1035
00:56:34.679 --> 00:56:35.960
<v Speaker 2>with the employer.

1036
00:56:36.440 --> 00:56:38.440
<v Speaker 23>Yes, sir, and they got it.

1037
00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:40.199
<v Speaker 2>Okay. That's what you.

1038
00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:45.760
<v Speaker 23>Call impired because I even got him fired. He was

1039
00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:49.880
<v Speaker 23>with Gray Star for like twenty years and he was

1040
00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:54.480
<v Speaker 23>a property regional property manager. I got him fired because

1041
00:56:54.760 --> 00:56:59.000
<v Speaker 23>of stuff that. Because my niece she actually ended up well.

1042
00:56:58.880 --> 00:57:03.679
<v Speaker 2>Joe, Joe, listen, if this company was stand up enough

1043
00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:07.320
<v Speaker 2>to fire this guy. Why are they giving you a

1044
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:12.360
<v Speaker 2>hard time about unemployment? Because what you're describing is what's

1045
00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:13.840
<v Speaker 2>called a hostile.

1046
00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:16.800
<v Speaker 6>Work environment now a hostile work environment?

1047
00:57:18.920 --> 00:57:22.760
<v Speaker 2>And what did the unemployment What did the unemployment office

1048
00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:25.960
<v Speaker 2>determine that you were not that you were fired for

1049
00:57:26.119 --> 00:57:28.199
<v Speaker 2>cause and do not deserve unemployment?

1050
00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:29.519
<v Speaker 15>Yes?

1051
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:33.480
<v Speaker 23>And I already hired like I already hired a private

1052
00:57:33.519 --> 00:57:35.840
<v Speaker 23>attorneys and they were they took it on.

1053
00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Joe, something something is wrong with your story. We get

1054
00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:43.159
<v Speaker 2>to figure out what it is. I hold on, I'm

1055
00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:47.599
<v Speaker 2>Tom Martine. Well hold on though, we'll we'll figure this out.

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<v Speaker 2>three seven to seven to one. Help You'll think you're

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<v Speaker 2>his only customer when you choose Frank durand the real

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<v Speaker 2>estate man dot com to list your home with Remax

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<v Speaker 2>Alliance three three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to figure out what Joe can do to

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<v Speaker 2>prove his case because making that accusation is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be difficult. It's a hostile work environment. Joe, did you

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<v Speaker 2>say that you already went to US unemployment hearing?

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<v Speaker 23>Yeah? I had to appeal it because they denied it

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<v Speaker 23>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And you hired an attorney. Is that correct? Forgive me

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<v Speaker 2>for not remembering, But why were you fired? What was

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<v Speaker 2>the reason they gave? Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, they literally had.

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<v Speaker 2>So weak notice. Yeah, but okay they will Joe, if

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00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:35.000
<v Speaker 2>you put in your notice to quit, why do you

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<v Speaker 2>think you deserve unemployment?

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<v Speaker 23>Yeah? Because I mean she was.

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<v Speaker 6>Fed up with the abuse, is basically what he said.

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<v Speaker 23>Set up with the abuse. Man, Like I was, like,

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<v Speaker 23>I was coming to work every day.

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<v Speaker 2>And okay, so are you saying the reason.

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<v Speaker 23>He could do my job? And he was saying the

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<v Speaker 23>monkey could do my.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, got it. Here's what I'm asking.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, So you're you're you're saying you quit because of

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<v Speaker 2>the hostile work environment. Yes, sir, Okay, No, I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I get that that if that truly happened, I totally

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<v Speaker 2>am with you. If they were really being hostile and

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<v Speaker 2>you put in a resignation because of it, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that you'll win. And I'll tell you why you should

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<v Speaker 2>have won. I had someone who quit and went to

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<v Speaker 2>the Bahamas and then said they wanted unemployment, and they

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<v Speaker 2>said it was a hostile work environment. And we were

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<v Speaker 2>the best of friends, and this this drunk sitting on

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<v Speaker 2>the beach and the Bahamas got unemployment from Colorado. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why they turned you down. What did

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<v Speaker 2>they say when they turned you down? I'll tell you why.

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<v Speaker 5>Because he didn't have He actually gave them a letter,

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<v Speaker 5>a piece of paper that was a two week notice.

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<v Speaker 2>But Mark, the reason he quit was because of the

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<v Speaker 2>hot work environment. That's what I'm getting at.

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<v Speaker 5>I get and I even agree with him. All I'm

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<v Speaker 5>saying is the reason he lost the case is because

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<v Speaker 5>they said this is ridiculous. Here's his thing. You know

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<v Speaker 5>they had this proof.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but Mark, Mark that you don't need proof. He

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<v Speaker 2>admitted he quit because of the hostile work environment. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you understand what I'm saying? It wasn't like he was

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<v Speaker 2>going to quit anyway and now wants unemployment. The reason

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<v Speaker 2>he quit was for the hostile work environment. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>need proof of a two week notice. He volunteered that.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, Hey, listen, I quit Gray Star Property Management

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<v Speaker 2>because it was hostile and I want unemployment. It happens

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<v Speaker 2>every day. We can reach out, we.

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<v Speaker 23>Can reach out to Hey, Tom, I didn't really want

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<v Speaker 23>the unemployment because I'm a scale of maintains guy and

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<v Speaker 23>I've been doing this for like almost can.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, then if then why are you calling us? If

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't want the unemployed? Why are you calling us?

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<v Speaker 22>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 23>Because I'm saying that that was unfair, Like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 23>I got a job right away.

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<v Speaker 2>But what do you want?

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<v Speaker 23>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, but Joe you're telling Joe, you're telling me

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<v Speaker 2>it was unfair. I agree with you. If what you're

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01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:15.360
<v Speaker 2>saying is true, I agree with you. But if you're

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<v Speaker 2>saying that, but you don't want the unemployment, why did

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<v Speaker 2>you call?

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<v Speaker 23>Yeah? Because my means I mean I should have deserved it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, why did you.

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<v Speaker 23>I did unemploy?

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<v Speaker 14>Man?

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<v Speaker 23>What do you mean? Why did I call? I was like,

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01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:34.079
<v Speaker 23>I got an unemployment because of that. I tried to

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<v Speaker 23>get a job like I tried to do.

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<v Speaker 6>Joe helped me out here, Joe helped me home.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, Joe, Joe, Now listen, man, really seriously, we're on

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01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:45.599
<v Speaker 2>your side. But you just told us you don't care

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<v Speaker 2>about the unemployment.

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<v Speaker 22>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 23>I really didn't at first because I know I could

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01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:53.960
<v Speaker 23>get a job right away, So I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 6>But then when did that change? When did that change?

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<v Speaker 23>Why for unemployment? Man? And I was just telling you guys, like, are.

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<v Speaker 2>You just trying to make.

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<v Speaker 23>A moment or something?

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<v Speaker 8>Tom, I have a suggestion for Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>One at a time. Hold on one second, Dragon, what

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01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:13.599
<v Speaker 2>were you saying?

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<v Speaker 21>You just called to make a comment about the previous

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<v Speaker 21>caller saying that everybody gets unemployment, and you're just saying

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<v Speaker 21>that that's not true.

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01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:22.719
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's what it was. Maybe he was trying to

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01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:27.159
<v Speaker 2>tell us God, okay, that makes much sense now yeah, okay, now, bo,

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<v Speaker 2>what were you going to say?

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<v Speaker 6>I do want to clarify that.

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<v Speaker 23>Everybody gets unemployment? Man, it's not true that everybody gets

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01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:37.280
<v Speaker 23>unemployment because how long ago?

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<v Speaker 2>How long ago did this happen to you?

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01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:39.559
<v Speaker 3>Joe?

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01:03:39.920 --> 01:03:40.639
<v Speaker 2>How long ago?

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01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:42.719
<v Speaker 23>It was like a year ago?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's probably too late for us to do anything. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the point. Thank you. Joe put him on hold.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just calling to say we're wrong. Well, it

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01:03:54.280 --> 01:03:55.920
<v Speaker 2>was not easy to get on a play.

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<v Speaker 6>And I do want to say this. I want to

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<v Speaker 6>change that statement a little.

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<v Speaker 5>Anybody that I fired for what I would consider cause,

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01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:08.239
<v Speaker 5>like stealing, or like drinking on the job or anything

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01:04:08.360 --> 01:04:11.440
<v Speaker 5>like that, they I'd always fight it all the way.

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<v Speaker 6>Through everything, and I lost every time.

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<v Speaker 5>People that actually gave me a letter saying I quit,

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<v Speaker 5>well they didn't even try to get unemployment. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know how that part works.

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<v Speaker 6>Now here's the point. Oh well, bo, what were you

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01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:28.280
<v Speaker 6>going to say?

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<v Speaker 2>Going to say?

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<v Speaker 24>The only reason Joe called was it just bitch about

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<v Speaker 24>this Grace Property Management. Now I did check it out.

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01:04:40.280 --> 01:04:43.239
<v Speaker 24>They only have one point three reviews I saw. I

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<v Speaker 24>think Joe got his job accomplished. So all you wanted

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<v Speaker 24>to do is complain about this management company.

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<v Speaker 5>They've got a ton of reviews. I looked it up

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<v Speaker 5>two times there, God for the company.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, All right, now, Deputy Bow, since you're on Oh

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01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:03.280
<v Speaker 2>do I have to take a break here, dragon God? Yes,

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01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:05.840
<v Speaker 2>yes you do. Okay, let me let me take I'm

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<v Speaker 2>way late. Hold on, we'll come right back.

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<v Speaker 6>And then Dmitri.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got a great update too. Go with a sure

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<v Speaker 2>thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing dot com. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>pay a cent until you're content. Time for an insurance

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<v Speaker 2>check up free, no obligation comparison call Compass Insurance paying

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<v Speaker 2>too much your coverage at dozens of insurance companies find

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<v Speaker 2>out now three oh three seven to seven to one. Help.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

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01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:41.239
<v Speaker 2>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

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<v Speaker 2>home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martina here three O three

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<v Speaker 2>seven one three talk seven one three two five to five.

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<v Speaker 2>Danny's got a comment on booted car. We've been talking

1208
01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:04.280
<v Speaker 2>about cars being illegally booted all over the city by

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01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:07.119
<v Speaker 2>park it right. These guys need to be put out

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<v Speaker 2>of business kind of like why this was go ahead? Danny?

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<v Speaker 6>What's your comment? I was wondering could you take them

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<v Speaker 6>to small Kan's court because I feel that they had

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<v Speaker 6>to give me the parking pat. Oh are you the

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<v Speaker 6>one that had your car booted.

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<v Speaker 18>No, no, no, I was calling about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was okay, got it, Okay. So here's what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>The marine, the ex marine that went and did bo

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01:06:46.039 --> 01:06:47.920
<v Speaker 2>handle that? Were you on that?

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<v Speaker 8>Cameron? Dean and I went over there last Friday.

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<v Speaker 6>He almost got thrown in the can.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they called the police office so Cameron, when Cameron

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01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:01.440
<v Speaker 2>had a lease, he could show he had a lease,

1223
01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:04.199
<v Speaker 2>but they didn't give him a parking pass and they

1224
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<v Speaker 2>booted his cars and bo he ended up having his

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01:07:07.639 --> 01:07:09.360
<v Speaker 2>girlfriend ended up paying for that, right.

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<v Speaker 24>Yeah, she was just getting stressed out over the whole situation.

1227
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<v Speaker 24>While I was waiting for Denver police, she went into

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<v Speaker 24>her apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they should have just cut him off. I

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<v Speaker 2>do too. Now here's what I want to know, is

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01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:25.440
<v Speaker 2>anyone taking that apartment complex to small claims court? Because

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<v Speaker 2>they should? And I agree with Danny that's a great idea.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a great idea.

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<v Speaker 24>And Tom, I did file a formal complaint with the

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<v Speaker 24>Public Utilities Commissioned. I did get a case number and

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<v Speaker 24>they are investigating it. They said they would good because there.

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<v Speaker 2>Were no warning signs. There were no bo. I want

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01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:45.719
<v Speaker 2>you to call him and tell them we'd like to

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01:07:45.719 --> 01:07:48.280
<v Speaker 2>help them, of course, not with the legal part of it,

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<v Speaker 2>but with the logistic part of it for filing a

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<v Speaker 2>small claims court.

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<v Speaker 6>The other one that was not park it right though,

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<v Speaker 6>that was the other one right in metro parking. Metro parking.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter. It still should go to small claims court,

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01:08:02.159 --> 01:08:05.039
<v Speaker 2>and I would love to follow it along when it does.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, so you know I'll call it Chemames.

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01:08:08.360 --> 01:08:12.519
<v Speaker 2>Now bo now bo. While you're on, tell us about

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01:08:12.559 --> 01:08:15.559
<v Speaker 2>this follow up about the oil leak and what happened.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, this was Doug Sanders.

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<v Speaker 24>He called in on Wednesday, February twenty fifth. Grease Monkey

1251
01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:28.119
<v Speaker 24>had an oil change done and grease Monkey did not

1252
01:08:28.279 --> 01:08:30.880
<v Speaker 24>remove the O ring on the oil filter.

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<v Speaker 2>He drove the car. Run all right, hold on and

1254
01:08:33.439 --> 01:08:35.560
<v Speaker 2>we're going to come back because we're running out of time.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna find out what happened and how that was

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<v Speaker 2>resolved if it was. I'm Tom Martine. Stick around for

1257
01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:45.920
<v Speaker 2>more of the Troubleshooter Show. Go with a sure Thing

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<v Speaker 2>Denver's Best roofer Excel roofing dot com. You don't pay

1259
01:08:49.359 --> 01:08:56.000
<v Speaker 2>a cent until you're content. Time for an insurance check up, free,

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<v Speaker 2>no obligation in comparison, call Compass Insurance paying too much

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<v Speaker 2>your coverage at dozens of insurance companies find out now

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<v Speaker 2>three all three seven seven to one help. You'll think

1263
01:09:05.479 --> 01:09:08.079
<v Speaker 2>you're his only customer when you choose Frank durand the

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01:09:08.119 --> 01:09:10.760
<v Speaker 2>real estate man dot com to list your home with

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<v Speaker 2>Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>Yea, rita you needed, That's who you don't have. Come

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<v Speaker 3>running sious as fast as we can. Shooter's gonna help.

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<v Speaker 3>Come man, this is.

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<v Speaker 2>The Troubleshooter Show. Now, Tom Martino, Hello, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Tom Martino and I'm glad. Do you have you

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<v Speaker 2>here on a Friday car day. We haven't had many

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<v Speaker 2>car questions, but we will. Kevin Colkins with us from

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<v Speaker 2>Sheridan Autotech. Deputy Docs in the studio, Deputy Bo's in

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<v Speaker 2>the studio, Deputy D's in the studio, Susan Mark Major.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me bring them all up. There you go. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>let's have some follow ups as well. Three three seven

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<v Speaker 2>one three talk seven one three two five five Deputy Bow.

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<v Speaker 2>He was telling us about Doug and oil and grease

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<v Speaker 2>Monkey and all of that. So let's get to it.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the original problem.

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<v Speaker 24>The original problem was he went into greet the Longmont

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01:10:21.720 --> 01:10:28.119
<v Speaker 24>grease Monkey location for an oil change, and apparently they

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01:10:28.239 --> 01:10:34.119
<v Speaker 24>did not remove the oil filter gasket, so he basically

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<v Speaker 24>had the new oil filter gasket in the old fie, yeah,

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<v Speaker 24>I think, And he drove it for like three or

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<v Speaker 24>four hundred miles and he heard a knocking of the

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01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:49.119
<v Speaker 24>engine and he went to another mechanic up there in Longmont,

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<v Speaker 24>and it was six.

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<v Speaker 8>Quarts low on oil.

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<v Speaker 24>He's very fortunate he did not lose the engine. And

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<v Speaker 24>I believe they had to change the other company, I

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<v Speaker 24>think it was called Pride Automotive.

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<v Speaker 8>They had to change some sort of head gasket.

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<v Speaker 24>So the bill incurred with six hundred dollars with Pride Automotive,

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<v Speaker 24>and then grease Monkey had a bill of two hundred

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<v Speaker 24>and eighty dollars. So we were just fighting with the

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<v Speaker 24>grease Monkey home of corporate office, you know, to admit

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<v Speaker 24>that they did wrong with this oil filter casket.

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<v Speaker 2>So they didn't want to do anything.

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<v Speaker 24>Man, they sucked the local branch manager there in.

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<v Speaker 2>That's odd, huh, refused.

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<v Speaker 24>To talk to us and told me not to make

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01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:37.479
<v Speaker 24>any more phone calls. So I was able to call

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01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:41.279
<v Speaker 24>the corporate grease Monkey corporate office out of state, and

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01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:44.840
<v Speaker 24>then they were able to transfer me around to another

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01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:50.359
<v Speaker 24>grease Monkey corporate office. Basically, so just last week they

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01:11:50.439 --> 01:11:54.119
<v Speaker 24>agreed to pay Doug Sanders in full for the grease

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01:11:54.159 --> 01:11:57.359
<v Speaker 24>Monkey bill and the charges he had to incur with

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01:11:57.479 --> 01:12:00.600
<v Speaker 24>the other MCKI King Paris car and amount of eight

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<v Speaker 24>hundred and fifty dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>That is a way to hound dog Man. You got

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01:12:04.479 --> 01:12:06.079
<v Speaker 6>on that. You didn't give up the.

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<v Speaker 2>Sense from Jack here.

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01:12:07.920 --> 01:12:09.600
<v Speaker 8>I called every in that.

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01:12:09.560 --> 01:12:13.680
<v Speaker 5>January that he called. Uh now he called like maybe

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01:12:13.720 --> 01:12:14.800
<v Speaker 5>a January he called.

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01:12:14.840 --> 01:12:16.479
<v Speaker 8>The original call came in January.

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01:12:16.920 --> 01:12:17.760
<v Speaker 6>Damn long ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was January.

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01:12:20.760 --> 01:12:23.479
<v Speaker 24>Yeah, we've been I've been making two or three calls

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01:12:23.560 --> 01:12:27.520
<v Speaker 24>every week and finally got the right you know, we're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, you know bo really really really really seriously, that

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01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:34.319
<v Speaker 2>deserves that, That deserves some kudos. You get my dinger.

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01:12:34.920 --> 01:12:36.560
<v Speaker 2>You got to get my dinger for that. And it

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01:12:36.800 --> 01:12:37.520
<v Speaker 2>was just like good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's very.

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<v Speaker 8>Happy for the show.

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<v Speaker 24>He didn't want to come on here and discussip, but

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01:12:43.119 --> 01:12:45.079
<v Speaker 24>he's very happy.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, think about that. You're a hound dog man.

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01:12:48.960 --> 01:12:53.399
<v Speaker 2>He a pitbull. This guy got on this case way back.

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01:12:54.279 --> 01:12:54.920
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 14>Bo.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thank you Bo. Dmitri Deputy d as we call him,

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01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Hey Tom, his rapper name d me Tree.

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<v Speaker 25>What's happening, Hey, I had a great meeting at a

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01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:12.039
<v Speaker 25>super high class joint called mile Hi Honda this morning.

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<v Speaker 25>You may recall that Christy called us about a month

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01:13:15.640 --> 01:13:19.079
<v Speaker 25>ago and she bought a brand new Honda CRV hybrid

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01:13:19.760 --> 01:13:24.600
<v Speaker 25>and she reported hearing the super high pitched sound that's

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01:13:24.720 --> 01:13:27.279
<v Speaker 25>driving her up the wall, and so.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of yes and now hold on. But part

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01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:32.880
<v Speaker 2>of it was that not everyone could hear it. You

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01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:35.640
<v Speaker 2>happened to hear some of it, and we started talking

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01:13:35.680 --> 01:13:39.600
<v Speaker 2>about this. Yes, yeah, thank you.

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01:13:39.640 --> 01:13:39.720
<v Speaker 19>No.

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<v Speaker 6>That literally is when she called into the show.

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01:13:42.760 --> 01:13:43.760
<v Speaker 2>That's what it's like.

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01:13:43.880 --> 01:13:46.840
<v Speaker 25>That is actually Christy's voice on a recording that mister

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01:13:46.920 --> 01:13:55.359
<v Speaker 25>Dragon has played back. So a couple of weeks ago,

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01:13:55.439 --> 01:13:58.760
<v Speaker 25>she stopped by the studio here on car Day and

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01:13:58.880 --> 01:14:01.039
<v Speaker 25>Kevin from Sheridan Auto Tech and I went for a

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01:14:01.159 --> 01:14:06.079
<v Speaker 25>ride and I predicted it turned out correctly that only

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01:14:06.119 --> 01:14:08.479
<v Speaker 25>some of us can hear the super high pitched sound

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01:14:08.840 --> 01:14:13.000
<v Speaker 25>and some won't. So during the ride, I unmistakably heard

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01:14:13.000 --> 01:14:16.279
<v Speaker 25>the sound Kevin heard it, just a little snippet of it,

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01:14:16.319 --> 01:14:19.920
<v Speaker 25>but only once. And we had that discussion with you

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01:14:20.039 --> 01:14:22.439
<v Speaker 25>and me a couple of times that.

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01:14:21.880 --> 01:14:23.760
<v Speaker 2>That's just how our age.

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01:14:24.039 --> 01:14:28.199
<v Speaker 25>However, Tom, in preparation for today's update, I brought a

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01:14:28.239 --> 01:14:33.079
<v Speaker 25>tone generator and I'm able to replicate that sound. If

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01:14:33.479 --> 01:14:35.319
<v Speaker 25>it would be kind of interesting to see how many

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01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:38.359
<v Speaker 25>people here in the studio and you, Tom can hear

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01:14:38.439 --> 01:14:42.640
<v Speaker 25>this sound. So okay, So if everybody can remove their

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01:14:42.680 --> 01:14:45.760
<v Speaker 25>headphones for just a moment, I'm going to play the sound.

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01:14:46.239 --> 01:14:49.439
<v Speaker 5>Why don't we Why don't we send it to Dragon

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01:14:49.520 --> 01:14:50.920
<v Speaker 5>and he can play it over the air.

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01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's end that app. That's why he's playing my phone.

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01:14:55.239 --> 01:15:03.479
<v Speaker 25>Try just try it, okay, Yeah, it comes everybody ready, Yeah, you.

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01:15:03.399 --> 01:15:06.119
<v Speaker 5>Can't what I have my oh my sound is off?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, of course I can hear that. That's

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01:15:08.680 --> 01:15:09.680
<v Speaker 5>the most annoying thing.

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01:15:09.800 --> 01:15:11.239
<v Speaker 2>You hear people out way off.

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<v Speaker 5>There's people driving off the road right now. I don't

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01:15:14.439 --> 01:15:15.920
<v Speaker 5>hear anything.

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01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:18.079
<v Speaker 3>Wait, you didn't hear it.

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01:15:18.279 --> 01:15:21.239
<v Speaker 2>Play it again, my god, it's play it again.

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01:15:21.279 --> 01:15:25.119
<v Speaker 5>It's nails ready ready?

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01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:27.439
<v Speaker 14>Yeah?

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01:15:27.479 --> 01:15:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh my yeah, that's come on, Nails on a chalkboard. Wait, wait,

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01:15:31.960 --> 01:15:35.039
<v Speaker 2>hold on, hold on, you guys. You guys are doing

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01:15:35.039 --> 01:15:38.399
<v Speaker 2>a belated April Fool's joke. Here's what I want you

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01:15:38.439 --> 01:15:42.600
<v Speaker 2>to do, Dmitri, Dmitri. I want you to say, when

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01:15:42.640 --> 01:15:48.000
<v Speaker 2>you start the sound, start okay, start.

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01:15:51.560 --> 01:15:51.880
<v Speaker 8>Stop.

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01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't hear anything. Can you hear it through?

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01:15:55.960 --> 01:15:57.560
<v Speaker 6>Can you you can hear a dragon?

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01:15:57.680 --> 01:15:57.760
<v Speaker 22>Right?

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01:15:57.880 --> 01:15:59.039
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I can certainly hear it.

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01:15:59.159 --> 01:16:05.960
<v Speaker 5>I mean listeners have to be one.

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<v Speaker 25>Last time, she's pointed out my speakers in the other

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01:16:07.760 --> 01:16:08.319
<v Speaker 25>part of the phone.

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01:16:08.359 --> 01:16:12.960
<v Speaker 6>Here comes start a horrible sound.

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01:16:13.039 --> 01:16:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Dude, stop, there's no sound. The youtubb's here at Tom.

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01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:19.000
<v Speaker 2>They're like, please stop it.

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01:16:19.119 --> 01:16:21.079
<v Speaker 6>That's terrible, It's horrible.

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01:16:21.439 --> 01:16:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Come on, YouTubers. So Tom.

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<v Speaker 19>So.

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<v Speaker 25>You know, over the past few weeks, I've called a

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<v Speaker 25>couple of Honda dealerships, and the one that really stopped

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01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:33.920
<v Speaker 25>the stepped up to the plate and jumped into action

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01:16:34.600 --> 01:16:36.000
<v Speaker 25>was a gentleman by the name of DEEPN.

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01:16:36.039 --> 01:16:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Bolton. He's the assistant service manager at myle High Honda.

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01:16:39.720 --> 01:16:41.800
<v Speaker 25>So we made an appointment to come and see him

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01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:45.520
<v Speaker 25>and drop off the car today and mister Bolton actually

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01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:49.239
<v Speaker 25>took a step that I didn't even expect. In anticipation

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01:16:49.359 --> 01:16:52.600
<v Speaker 25>of Christy having to leave her car with him. He

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01:16:52.720 --> 01:16:55.960
<v Speaker 25>arranged for a no charge loaner Honda for her to

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01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:58.520
<v Speaker 25>take home for as long as it takes for them

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01:16:58.520 --> 01:17:01.960
<v Speaker 25>to figure out and fix this problem. So myle i Honda, man,

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<v Speaker 25>my head is off to them. Oh and by the way, they.

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<v Speaker 6>Have really did they figure anything out yet?

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01:17:07.439 --> 01:17:09.159
<v Speaker 2>Well here's what So here's what we did.

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<v Speaker 26>Yes, go ahead, Devon, Devon and Christie and I from

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01:17:14.039 --> 01:17:18.039
<v Speaker 26>Myleha Honda went for a drive in that car and

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01:17:18.600 --> 01:17:23.279
<v Speaker 26>he heard the sound every single time I heard it.

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01:17:23.439 --> 01:17:27.319
<v Speaker 25>So there is absolutely no question in his mind or anybody.

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01:17:27.840 --> 01:17:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Mark had. Mark uses an expression that I'm going to

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01:17:32.079 --> 01:17:35.960
<v Speaker 2>borrow right now. Mark, you know what I'm going to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see, I've got a lot of them. It is

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01:17:39.359 --> 01:17:40.560
<v Speaker 2>the nut behind the wheel.

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<v Speaker 25>Well, in this case, it was some diode under the hood,

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01:17:48.640 --> 01:17:52.680
<v Speaker 25>so he said. So he he's he hasn't had this

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01:17:52.760 --> 01:17:57.319
<v Speaker 25>complaint before, but he recognizes that the problem exists. So

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01:17:57.560 --> 01:18:01.359
<v Speaker 25>he has a really great resource within Honda of America

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01:18:01.760 --> 01:18:04.680
<v Speaker 25>and it's called tech Line, and he said it's staffed

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01:18:04.720 --> 01:18:08.600
<v Speaker 25>with retired master mechanics and people of that nature. So

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01:18:08.720 --> 01:18:10.600
<v Speaker 25>he says that at this point there is no need

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01:18:10.640 --> 01:18:12.720
<v Speaker 25>for him to even turn it over to a mechanic.

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01:18:13.560 --> 01:18:17.600
<v Speaker 25>So he's going to contact Honda and get technical guidance

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01:18:17.720 --> 01:18:20.159
<v Speaker 25>from them on what to do next.

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01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:22.239
<v Speaker 2>So I think that men.

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<v Speaker 25>So I think over the next few days we're going

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01:18:24.520 --> 01:18:27.079
<v Speaker 25>to have further follow ups and further updates from Mile

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<v Speaker 25>High Honda.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's all right, Thank you very much, Deputy d

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01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:34.680
<v Speaker 2>You're welcome. All right, So we we have more coming

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01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:38.239
<v Speaker 2>up on the Troubleshooter Show. It's important that when you

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01:18:38.319 --> 01:18:41.399
<v Speaker 2>learn stuff on the show, you also contribute and teach

1440
01:18:41.479 --> 01:18:44.680
<v Speaker 2>us stuff. So here's what I'm going to ask today.

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01:18:44.840 --> 01:18:47.600
<v Speaker 2>We haven't done this in a while. I want to

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01:18:47.640 --> 01:18:51.560
<v Speaker 2>know gems and pearls of wisdom, and I'll even give

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01:18:51.600 --> 01:18:55.399
<v Speaker 2>away a prize for the best. I want to hear

1444
01:18:55.479 --> 01:18:59.359
<v Speaker 2>pearls of wisdom from our listeners. Now, my morons, you

1445
01:18:59.399 --> 01:19:01.520
<v Speaker 2>can do it on the YouTube chat, but I'd rather

1446
01:19:01.560 --> 01:19:04.920
<v Speaker 2>you call the show. By the way, kinh Hoome Solutions.

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<v Speaker 2>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

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<v Speaker 2>of insurance companies find out now three oh three seven

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<v Speaker 2>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate man

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<v Speaker 2>dot Com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

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<v Speaker 2>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Tom Martino,

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<v Speaker 2>you're troubleshooter three O three seven one three talks seven

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<v Speaker 2>one three each two five to five, Tunica, what's going

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01:19:59.000 --> 01:20:00.640
<v Speaker 2>on with your landlord? What's happening?

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<v Speaker 19>Yes, his my land lord. We have a rocky start

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01:20:08.760 --> 01:20:12.279
<v Speaker 19>through the gas exposure, but our lease was ending on

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01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:17.000
<v Speaker 19>May fifteenth or this year, and we still have not

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01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:20.880
<v Speaker 19>been offered like the option to We knew or she

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01:20:21.079 --> 01:20:23.359
<v Speaker 19>was going to raise the rent on whatever we're going

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01:20:23.439 --> 01:20:26.000
<v Speaker 19>to do. But I was just kind of wondering what

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01:20:26.560 --> 01:20:28.800
<v Speaker 19>steps should I take because we're really not in the

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01:20:28.800 --> 01:20:30.359
<v Speaker 19>position to move at this time.

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<v Speaker 2>And Okay, when you said, let me ask you a question,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to ask a question because this is really

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01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:40.880
<v Speaker 2>important and you do have certain rights. When you said

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<v Speaker 2>you got off to a rocky start, what do you mean.

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<v Speaker 19>Well, We moved in and the fireplace wasn't working, and

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01:20:49.399 --> 01:20:52.920
<v Speaker 19>she said, when my previous tennis never used it. This

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01:20:53.159 --> 01:20:56.680
<v Speaker 19>was May the fourteenth of last year, twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 19>and we, okay, got it and we noticed the fire

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01:21:00.359 --> 01:21:03.359
<v Speaker 19>We noticed the fireplace wasn't working. We tried it. She said, well,

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<v Speaker 19>it never worked. My previous ten has never used it, but.

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<v Speaker 16>Not knowingly.

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<v Speaker 19>We was exposed to jass. But the firetec had of

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01:21:11.880 --> 01:21:15.039
<v Speaker 19>gassic and the furnace. So we called Excel Energy and

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01:21:15.039 --> 01:21:18.239
<v Speaker 19>they turned everything off. Her parmer she hired took eight

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01:21:18.319 --> 01:21:21.239
<v Speaker 19>days to get everything fixed. We still don't have the fireplace,

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<v Speaker 19>which is okay because it's not in the least I guess.

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<v Speaker 19>But they got the heat running and the tax sell

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01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:30.880
<v Speaker 19>approved it when they came back out. But ever since then,

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01:21:31.079 --> 01:21:33.720
<v Speaker 19>she's just been like really hateful, and she's been like

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01:21:33.800 --> 01:21:37.199
<v Speaker 19>really mean and barely one to sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I get it. So you think she wants to

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01:21:40.399 --> 01:21:41.760
<v Speaker 2>get rid of you, and you want to know what

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01:21:41.800 --> 01:21:42.520
<v Speaker 2>your rights are?

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<v Speaker 19>Yes, sir, that's it.

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01:21:45.279 --> 01:21:52.159
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Okay, let's find out cool. I'm gonna call I'm

1493
01:21:52.159 --> 01:21:57.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna call our real estate attorney and ask them. I know,

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01:21:57.039 --> 01:21:58.720
<v Speaker 2>the more you live there, the more rights you have,

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01:21:58.800 --> 01:22:00.800
<v Speaker 2>but we'll figure it out. I don't know what right

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01:22:00.880 --> 01:22:04.640
<v Speaker 2>you have, but right right now, it's really weird because

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01:22:05.119 --> 01:22:08.319
<v Speaker 2>the laws have changed so much. So let's find out

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01:22:08.319 --> 01:22:12.319
<v Speaker 2>what renewal rights you have and what cancelation rights the

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01:22:12.439 --> 01:22:15.960
<v Speaker 2>landlord has. Have you tried reaching out to the landlord?

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<v Speaker 19>You know, I haven't reached out to her, said like,

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01:22:22.119 --> 01:22:24.800
<v Speaker 19>you know, we needed a fixture for the toilet, but no,

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01:22:25.039 --> 01:22:29.039
<v Speaker 19>I have not because we you know, we've just been

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01:22:29.079 --> 01:22:31.640
<v Speaker 19>going through issues. You know, here she wanted to payment

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01:22:31.720 --> 01:22:34.159
<v Speaker 19>one way and now she wanted us to do a

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01:22:34.159 --> 01:22:37.800
<v Speaker 19>different way. You know, it's just really unprofessional, she says,

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01:22:38.039 --> 01:22:41.640
<v Speaker 19>really roots I choose really not to talk to her,

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01:22:41.720 --> 01:22:45.159
<v Speaker 19>but I was going to send her an email say hey,

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01:22:45.199 --> 01:22:45.920
<v Speaker 19>what's going on?

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01:22:46.119 --> 01:22:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Like, no, we.

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01:22:48.439 --> 01:22:52.239
<v Speaker 19>This is see right because I know that the least

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01:22:52.279 --> 01:22:54.800
<v Speaker 19>that we signed is through Zillow, and it did measure

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01:22:55.279 --> 01:22:57.479
<v Speaker 19>that after the twelve month term it will go to

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01:22:57.560 --> 01:23:01.359
<v Speaker 19>a month a month, and that neither landlord or Timmant

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01:23:01.359 --> 01:23:03.920
<v Speaker 19>has you know, they don't have the obligation to remove.

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<v Speaker 6>But right it doesn't wait wait wait, wait, wait, it

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01:23:07.680 --> 01:23:08.640
<v Speaker 6>doesn't work that way.

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01:23:08.680 --> 01:23:12.720
<v Speaker 5>In Colorado. We got to get O'Brien on, Yeah, things

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01:23:12.760 --> 01:23:13.880
<v Speaker 5>have changed right now.

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01:23:14.760 --> 01:23:18.479
<v Speaker 2>Things have changed right now, So hold on, hold on, Twineka.

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01:23:18.720 --> 01:23:21.159
<v Speaker 2>We're going to get an expert on three oh three

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01:23:21.840 --> 01:23:24.199
<v Speaker 2>seven to one three talk seven one three eight two

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01:23:24.319 --> 01:23:28.199
<v Speaker 2>five five. David, you have a question about an F

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01:23:27.800 --> 01:23:31.479
<v Speaker 2>one body shop. Go ahead, David, we have Kevin has

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01:23:31.520 --> 01:23:33.560
<v Speaker 2>shared an autotech with us. He can chime in. What's

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01:23:33.600 --> 01:23:33.960
<v Speaker 2>going on.

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01:23:35.640 --> 01:23:38.600
<v Speaker 9>Well, I got hit the other day kind of on

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01:23:38.640 --> 01:23:43.760
<v Speaker 9>the the on my driver's side, right by my tailgate,

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01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:48.840
<v Speaker 9>and I'm trying to talk to some body shops about Okay,

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01:23:49.399 --> 01:23:53.279
<v Speaker 9>how are you guys going to repair this, whether it's

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01:23:53.560 --> 01:23:57.720
<v Speaker 9>a bed replacement or a panel replacement, And nobody wants

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01:23:57.800 --> 01:24:01.880
<v Speaker 9>to talk to me without talking to see about my

1532
01:24:02.119 --> 01:24:06.760
<v Speaker 9>insurance and and all that from Progressive because the guy

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01:24:06.800 --> 01:24:09.960
<v Speaker 9>that hit me is obviously paying for it, but nobody

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01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:12.760
<v Speaker 9>will talk to me about the repair on what the

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01:24:12.800 --> 01:24:15.159
<v Speaker 9>proper way to do it is.

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01:24:15.560 --> 01:24:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's ridiculous. You mean to tell me you can't

1537
01:24:18.800 --> 01:24:20.439
<v Speaker 2>call up and say, hey man, I got a few

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01:24:20.520 --> 01:24:24.399
<v Speaker 2>questions about this before I commit. They won't explain.

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01:24:24.039 --> 01:24:25.680
<v Speaker 3>It to you.

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01:24:25.720 --> 01:24:25.960
<v Speaker 13>No.

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01:24:26.079 --> 01:24:31.000
<v Speaker 9>I've talked to euro Collision, I've talked to Caliber Collision,

1542
01:24:31.800 --> 01:24:35.880
<v Speaker 9>and none of them will. We'll say, yeah, bring it in,

1543
01:24:36.039 --> 01:24:37.039
<v Speaker 9>let's talk about it.

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01:24:40.439 --> 01:24:43.920
<v Speaker 2>That's ridiculous. I can't tell you why I mean that

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01:24:43.920 --> 01:24:51.840
<v Speaker 2>that that's ridiculous, Kevin. What reason would they have not

1546
01:24:51.920 --> 01:24:54.199
<v Speaker 2>to even not to answer a stupid question.

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01:24:54.359 --> 01:24:56.239
<v Speaker 10>They may not know, the guys that he's talking to

1548
01:24:56.399 --> 01:24:58.239
<v Speaker 10>may not know the procedure to fix it, and they're

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01:24:58.279 --> 01:25:00.920
<v Speaker 10>just not telling them. But you know, I would go

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01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:03.439
<v Speaker 10>somewhere else obviously, because if you can't get a straight

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01:25:03.479 --> 01:25:05.439
<v Speaker 10>answer to start, it's never going to get any better.

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01:25:06.760 --> 01:25:08.680
<v Speaker 9>Well that's what I thought too, So that's why I

1553
01:25:08.680 --> 01:25:09.920
<v Speaker 9>had to call the trouble shooter.

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01:25:10.119 --> 01:25:11.720
<v Speaker 10>Sure, what part of town?

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01:25:11.920 --> 01:25:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay?

1556
01:25:12.359 --> 01:25:17.479
<v Speaker 9>So I'm down in Highland's Ranch Centennial Littleton area.

1557
01:25:18.439 --> 01:25:20.199
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, there's the body shop we use for all our

1558
01:25:20.199 --> 01:25:23.680
<v Speaker 10>stuff as Perry and Terry. They're they're off a cult.

1559
01:25:23.880 --> 01:25:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're good people. They have been around for years.

1560
01:25:26.720 --> 01:25:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah they have.

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01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:29.319
<v Speaker 10>So you may just give them a call and explain

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01:25:29.399 --> 01:25:30.840
<v Speaker 10>what's going on and see if they'll talk to you

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01:25:30.880 --> 01:25:33.199
<v Speaker 10>about it before you go there. But I don't see

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01:25:33.199 --> 01:25:33.880
<v Speaker 10>why they wouldn't.

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01:25:35.119 --> 01:25:38.199
<v Speaker 9>Okay, do you know what the fix would ye?

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01:25:38.319 --> 01:25:40.800
<v Speaker 10>See, Well, it would depend on the damage. I that

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01:25:40.920 --> 01:25:42.560
<v Speaker 10>I don't know. I don't get into the body work

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01:25:42.600 --> 01:25:43.000
<v Speaker 10>too much.

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01:25:43.680 --> 01:25:47.439
<v Speaker 2>They'd have to hold on where where David, David, where

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01:25:47.560 --> 01:25:48.039
<v Speaker 2>was it hit?

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01:25:49.560 --> 01:25:49.840
<v Speaker 20>It was?

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01:25:49.960 --> 01:25:54.359
<v Speaker 9>It was hit in the back quarter panel right in

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01:25:54.479 --> 01:25:58.720
<v Speaker 9>front of where my my pail light is on the

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01:25:58.800 --> 01:25:59.680
<v Speaker 9>driver's side.

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01:25:59.840 --> 01:26:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, got it, got it, got it? So that

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01:26:03.119 --> 01:26:06.479
<v Speaker 2>sounds like a rear quarter panel. What what do you

1577
01:26:06.560 --> 01:26:09.319
<v Speaker 2>specifically want to know? Anyway, if his insurance is paying,

1578
01:26:09.600 --> 01:26:11.800
<v Speaker 2>you want to make sure you're getting the right repairs

1579
01:26:11.920 --> 01:26:13.039
<v Speaker 2>and not aftermarket.

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01:26:14.239 --> 01:26:16.800
<v Speaker 9>Well I want to know is are they just going

1581
01:26:16.880 --> 01:26:20.319
<v Speaker 9>to cut that aluminum out and well the new piece

1582
01:26:20.439 --> 01:26:23.760
<v Speaker 9>in or is it a panel that's the right six

1583
01:26:24.760 --> 01:26:25.079
<v Speaker 9>or what?

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01:26:25.199 --> 01:26:29.399
<v Speaker 2>Well? Hold on, hold on if you go to any

1585
01:26:29.439 --> 01:26:32.520
<v Speaker 2>good body shop, I mean, I know what you're saying.

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01:26:32.560 --> 01:26:34.840
<v Speaker 2>You want to know. Wait a minute, are you drilling

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01:26:34.840 --> 01:26:38.840
<v Speaker 2>and filling or are you really replacing the quarter panel?

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01:26:39.039 --> 01:26:45.079
<v Speaker 2>So it's the left rear quarter panel, yes, sir, And

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01:26:45.199 --> 01:26:48.800
<v Speaker 2>usually Kevin, that's a remove and replace.

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01:26:48.520 --> 01:26:50.680
<v Speaker 10>Right, Typically it is on a bed, Yeah, because not

1591
01:26:50.760 --> 01:26:54.319
<v Speaker 10>enough metal there to fill. But yeah, he's right and

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01:26:54.399 --> 01:26:56.600
<v Speaker 10>trying to get that done first though, because he doesn't

1593
01:26:56.600 --> 01:26:58.680
<v Speaker 10>want a half job, you know, to find out a

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01:26:58.760 --> 01:27:01.399
<v Speaker 10>year later that there's a issue with the repairs. It

1595
01:27:01.520 --> 01:27:02.920
<v Speaker 10>was absolutely right to ask.

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01:27:03.880 --> 01:27:06.479
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe that you can't find a shop to

1597
01:27:06.479 --> 01:27:09.640
<v Speaker 2>answer your question. Know really, what do they say? Did

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01:27:09.680 --> 01:27:13.039
<v Speaker 2>you ever did you ever actually make an appointment for

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01:27:13.079 --> 01:27:13.680
<v Speaker 2>an estimate?

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<v Speaker 15>No, they wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 9>They wouldn't let me set an appointment until the progressive

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01:27:21.399 --> 01:27:25.359
<v Speaker 9>to give me an estimate. Then then they said, bring

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01:27:25.399 --> 01:27:27.600
<v Speaker 9>it in then then we can look at it and

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01:27:27.720 --> 01:27:30.199
<v Speaker 9>start fixing it. I said, well, I don't want that.

1605
01:27:30.279 --> 01:27:33.159
<v Speaker 9>I want to know what the correct fix is first,

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01:27:33.479 --> 01:27:39.119
<v Speaker 9>and they well, well, not until we get your adjuster paperwork.

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01:27:40.279 --> 01:27:43.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I listen. I don't know what motivates

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01:27:43.600 --> 01:27:46.760
<v Speaker 2>people anymore. I mean, David, what I can say. We

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01:27:46.800 --> 01:27:48.880
<v Speaker 2>can't wave a magic want and make an answer.

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01:27:49.439 --> 01:27:52.680
<v Speaker 9>But I understand That's why I thought, you know, being Friday,

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01:27:52.920 --> 01:27:55.720
<v Speaker 9>I was waiting to exy to give you guys.

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01:27:55.479 --> 01:27:58.880
<v Speaker 2>We can probably we can probably give you an answer

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01:27:59.239 --> 01:28:03.520
<v Speaker 2>if you send us pictures, we can get an expert. Yeah, okay,

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01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:05.119
<v Speaker 2>I think I know why they won't tell him.

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01:28:05.520 --> 01:28:08.199
<v Speaker 25>They're probably waiting for the insurance company adjuster to come

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01:28:08.239 --> 01:28:11.600
<v Speaker 25>over and approve the repair in whatever way the insurance

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01:28:11.640 --> 01:28:13.479
<v Speaker 25>company wants to conduct the repair.

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01:28:13.920 --> 01:28:16.159
<v Speaker 2>So they don't want to waste time, is what you're saying.

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01:28:16.960 --> 01:28:19.039
<v Speaker 25>Yeah, they're not going to say we're going to replace it,

1620
01:28:19.079 --> 01:28:21.439
<v Speaker 25>only to find out that Progressive is going to say, no,

1621
01:28:21.479 --> 01:28:23.800
<v Speaker 25>we're not replacing it. We'd rather save four dollars and

1622
01:28:23.880 --> 01:28:25.199
<v Speaker 25>have you guys fill it with bondo.

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01:28:26.439 --> 01:28:27.319
<v Speaker 2>No, I know what you mean.

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01:28:27.640 --> 01:28:29.479
<v Speaker 10>That's why he needs to find a shop that's going

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01:28:29.520 --> 01:28:35.359
<v Speaker 10>to work for him, not for the insurance company. Exactly right, Yes, yeah,

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01:28:35.479 --> 01:28:37.560
<v Speaker 10>give him a call a Perry there. Just just ask

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01:28:37.640 --> 01:28:39.640
<v Speaker 10>the question over the phone and see what they say.

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01:28:39.880 --> 01:28:41.239
<v Speaker 10>You know, they'll set an appointment.

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01:28:41.239 --> 01:28:41.359
<v Speaker 14>Come.

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01:28:41.399 --> 01:28:44.319
<v Speaker 10>Look, they're they're straight shooters. We've we've never had issues

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01:28:44.319 --> 01:28:44.640
<v Speaker 10>with them.

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01:28:45.920 --> 01:28:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, I appreciate your time, no problem. Listen to Twinika.

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01:28:54.960 --> 01:28:58.279
<v Speaker 2>Tell me China, Brad O'Brien is not available.

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01:29:01.920 --> 01:29:03.840
<v Speaker 9>That is true?

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01:29:04.439 --> 01:29:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, when will he be available or is he not

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01:29:06.600 --> 01:29:12.800
<v Speaker 2>available today? He is not available today, Twinko? When when

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01:29:12.920 --> 01:29:16.079
<v Speaker 2>is your lease up? Did you say in May? We

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01:29:16.520 --> 01:29:18.960
<v Speaker 2>got to get you. We have to get you back on.

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01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:21.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do some research store in the break,

1640
01:29:22.800 --> 01:29:26.000
<v Speaker 2>but we need to get you back on with our

1641
01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:29.399
<v Speaker 2>attorney to give you some advice. Kashina will get your

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01:29:29.479 --> 01:29:31.640
<v Speaker 2>number and stuff off the air and we'll get you

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01:29:31.720 --> 01:29:35.439
<v Speaker 2>back on three oh three seven one three talks seven

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<v Speaker 2>out now three oh three seven seven to one help.

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<v Speaker 2>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

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01:30:07.600 --> 01:30:10.760
<v Speaker 2>home with Remax Alliance. Three oh three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 5>All right, three oh three seven one three a two

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<v Speaker 5>five five. Three oh three Martino, Hey, you should join us.

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01:30:23.000 --> 01:30:24.560
<v Speaker 5>We do have a lot of fun and I mean it,

1657
01:30:24.680 --> 01:30:27.760
<v Speaker 5>a lot of fun on our YouTube channel and a

1658
01:30:27.760 --> 01:30:30.880
<v Speaker 5>lot of serious conversations as well. So you go to YouTube,

1659
01:30:30.880 --> 01:30:35.279
<v Speaker 5>you type in trouble Shooter Network and you'll find us,

1660
01:30:35.279 --> 01:30:37.279
<v Speaker 5>and during the commercials you can hear us. And I

1661
01:30:37.359 --> 01:30:39.640
<v Speaker 5>want to say this too. This number works on and

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01:30:39.680 --> 01:30:42.920
<v Speaker 5>off the air. Three oh three Martino, three zero three Martino.

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<v Speaker 5>You can always email us it help at troubleshooter dot com.

1664
01:30:46.119 --> 01:30:47.159
<v Speaker 5>But what's going on with you?

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<v Speaker 6>Miles?

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01:30:49.520 --> 01:30:51.479
<v Speaker 14>Oh? Hey, Mark, thanks for taking my car.

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01:30:51.560 --> 01:30:51.960
<v Speaker 10>You got it?

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01:30:52.319 --> 01:30:55.600
<v Speaker 14>Actually I spoke to you the other day about bridgeloons.

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01:30:56.000 --> 01:30:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, man.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, So anyway, I think I got that figured out,

1671
01:31:02.680 --> 01:31:09.319
<v Speaker 14>but my situation has chased. So, uh, my mother, I

1672
01:31:09.600 --> 01:31:12.760
<v Speaker 14>have power of attorney, both durable and medical, or both

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01:31:12.800 --> 01:31:16.359
<v Speaker 14>of my parents. I am the first on my father.

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01:31:17.399 --> 01:31:21.920
<v Speaker 14>I am the second on the second on my father,

1675
01:31:22.319 --> 01:31:25.279
<v Speaker 14>my mother is first. I am second, and then I

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01:31:25.319 --> 01:31:28.279
<v Speaker 14>am the first on my mother, but I'm the first

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01:31:28.359 --> 01:31:31.000
<v Speaker 14>on all of their durable power of attorney.

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01:31:31.119 --> 01:31:31.479
<v Speaker 10>Got it.

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01:31:32.399 --> 01:31:36.359
<v Speaker 14>We're trying to put them into an assistant living place.

1680
01:31:37.279 --> 01:31:39.399
<v Speaker 14>We went and toured a couple of yesterday and we

1681
01:31:39.439 --> 01:31:44.039
<v Speaker 14>found one that we really liked. And now my mother

1682
01:31:44.279 --> 01:31:49.439
<v Speaker 14>is being very resistant and now she's resisting.

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01:31:49.439 --> 01:31:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Hey Miles, Miles, when you Miles, when you say, when

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01:31:53.880 --> 01:31:55.680
<v Speaker 2>you say your mom is resistant?

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<v Speaker 6>Were they going to go to assisted living.

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01:31:58.319 --> 01:32:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Together in and like the ones that take couples and families.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, it's a beautiful facility. It's a two bedroom apartment

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01:32:08.800 --> 01:32:10.720
<v Speaker 14>and it's really nice.

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01:32:12.079 --> 01:32:14.239
<v Speaker 2>And how old is your mom.

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<v Speaker 14>My mom's eighty nine and my father is ninety one.

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<v Speaker 2>And how does your how does your mom express her resistance?

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<v Speaker 14>Well, she was, like I said, she was all for it,

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<v Speaker 14>and so we're like, okay, we're going to do this.

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<v Speaker 14>And you know, we toured the places that were great.

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01:32:40.479 --> 01:32:44.439
<v Speaker 14>She liked the places, but she is very resistant about

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01:32:44.479 --> 01:32:46.880
<v Speaker 14>selling your house. That's the only way that we can

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01:32:46.960 --> 01:32:52.000
<v Speaker 14>pay for it. And her cognitive skills. I forget the

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01:32:52.079 --> 01:32:56.640
<v Speaker 14>test did they do that? Was it mi IB or

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01:32:56.720 --> 01:33:00.279
<v Speaker 14>something like that. She came in at a night tea

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01:33:01.399 --> 01:33:04.520
<v Speaker 14>which is moderate to severe.

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01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you mot Miles, none of that matters unless

1702
01:33:09.239 --> 01:33:12.960
<v Speaker 2>it's made official. And here's having a power of attorney

1703
01:33:13.600 --> 01:33:17.279
<v Speaker 2>has nothing to do with taking control of your parents.

1704
01:33:17.319 --> 01:33:19.399
<v Speaker 2>You can't do that simply because you have a power

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01:33:19.399 --> 01:33:24.079
<v Speaker 2>of attorney. What you need is is guardianship. If okay,

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01:33:24.079 --> 01:33:27.079
<v Speaker 2>But here's what I want to know. Your dad and

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01:33:27.159 --> 01:33:30.199
<v Speaker 2>your mom. You say it's your mom's home or do

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01:33:30.279 --> 01:33:31.159
<v Speaker 2>they own it together?

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01:33:32.800 --> 01:33:35.479
<v Speaker 14>They own it together. My father is ninety one with

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01:33:35.600 --> 01:33:41.760
<v Speaker 14>Parkinson's and severe dementia. He is definitely he's out there.

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01:33:43.319 --> 01:33:46.960
<v Speaker 14>He doesn't know what day it is. The wander wanders

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01:33:47.000 --> 01:33:48.680
<v Speaker 14>he uh, But who.

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01:33:48.479 --> 01:33:52.199
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so your mom does your mom have guardianship over

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01:33:52.279 --> 01:33:54.119
<v Speaker 2>him or was he never ruled incompetent?

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01:33:56.039 --> 01:34:01.439
<v Speaker 14>He was never really ruled incompetent because it was just

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01:34:01.600 --> 01:34:03.560
<v Speaker 14>kind of a given. You know, she was taking care

1717
01:34:03.600 --> 01:34:07.800
<v Speaker 14>of him, she was this caregiver, and so they never

1718
01:34:07.920 --> 01:34:13.119
<v Speaker 14>really officially ruled him incompetent. But it would be very

1719
01:34:13.119 --> 01:34:16.479
<v Speaker 14>easy to do. And trust me, Tom, this is the

1720
01:34:16.600 --> 01:34:20.560
<v Speaker 14>last the last thing I want to do. I don't

1721
01:34:20.600 --> 01:34:22.920
<v Speaker 14>want to do this, but well you.

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01:34:22.920 --> 01:34:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Have to listen, then you need What you need to

1723
01:34:27.039 --> 01:34:31.039
<v Speaker 2>do is simply do you are allowed to do a

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01:34:31.079 --> 01:34:35.920
<v Speaker 2>court action to challenge your mom's a viability and take

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01:34:35.960 --> 01:34:41.800
<v Speaker 2>over as a guardian. And now we can get okay,

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01:34:42.319 --> 01:34:44.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get one of our attorneys on to

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01:34:44.399 --> 01:34:48.880
<v Speaker 2>talk about it, and I want you to hold on.

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01:34:49.079 --> 01:34:54.479
<v Speaker 2>I think we're going to get let's get McKenzie. Dan McKenzie.

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01:34:55.239 --> 01:34:59.359
<v Speaker 2>He is Mackenzie Law, he's an estate planning attorney. Let's

1730
01:34:59.399 --> 01:35:03.640
<v Speaker 2>talk to him first. There are ways to go about it.

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01:35:03.640 --> 01:35:09.880
<v Speaker 2>It's it's always very very difficult, very difficult. And if

1732
01:35:09.920 --> 01:35:12.640
<v Speaker 2>they feel that you're trying to take advantage of them,

1733
01:35:12.920 --> 01:35:20.720
<v Speaker 2>they're going to get a they're going to get a

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01:35:20.720 --> 01:35:26.399
<v Speaker 2>an independent person appointed with the courts. So, hang on

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01:35:26.439 --> 01:35:28.479
<v Speaker 2>a sec did you want to say something, go ahead, Pat,

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01:35:28.479 --> 01:35:29.319
<v Speaker 2>What were you going to say?

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01:35:29.479 --> 01:35:33.000
<v Speaker 11>Well, we had just had this done okay with one

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01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:33.680
<v Speaker 11>of our clients.

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01:35:33.800 --> 01:35:36.079
<v Speaker 2>Okay. So in other words, did one of the kids

1740
01:35:36.079 --> 01:35:37.399
<v Speaker 2>want to take over for the parents?

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01:35:37.439 --> 01:35:37.720
<v Speaker 14>They did?

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01:35:38.079 --> 01:35:40.680
<v Speaker 2>They did. So what did they do? They filed with

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01:35:40.720 --> 01:35:41.079
<v Speaker 2>the court.

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01:35:41.279 --> 01:35:43.560
<v Speaker 12>They did. They went to the attorney and she was

1745
01:35:43.840 --> 01:35:44.960
<v Speaker 12>she actually we talked about it.

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01:35:45.800 --> 01:35:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're on, but I mean, don't use names, just

1747
01:35:47.760 --> 01:35:48.640
<v Speaker 2>use situations.

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01:35:48.720 --> 01:35:48.880
<v Speaker 20>Right.

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01:35:49.039 --> 01:35:55.840
<v Speaker 11>So she had been contacted through an Engelbert.

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01:35:56.479 --> 01:36:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh, so this was a scam where someone was sending money,

1751
01:36:00.840 --> 01:36:02.039
<v Speaker 2>and so what did the kid do?

1752
01:36:02.399 --> 01:36:05.319
<v Speaker 11>And so finally the kid went to the attorney and said,

1753
01:36:05.399 --> 01:36:09.479
<v Speaker 11>my mom's being relationship scammed on this thing and she's

1754
01:36:10.039 --> 01:36:11.399
<v Speaker 11>sending money to these people.

1755
01:36:11.520 --> 01:36:14.039
<v Speaker 2>So she got the court's ruled yes.

1756
01:36:13.920 --> 01:36:16.479
<v Speaker 11>And the client had gotten in touch with me asking

1757
01:36:16.520 --> 01:36:19.800
<v Speaker 11>for lots of money to go, and I'd been in

1758
01:36:19.880 --> 01:36:21.239
<v Speaker 11>contact with the daughter and.

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01:36:21.239 --> 01:36:23.920
<v Speaker 2>So and so the daughter filed a motion with the

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01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:27.560
<v Speaker 2>courts right and took control and got letters of temporary

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01:36:27.560 --> 01:36:31.560
<v Speaker 2>guardianship and temporary conservatorship that are in place. And did

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01:36:31.560 --> 01:36:33.119
<v Speaker 2>the mom challenge it at all.

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01:36:33.319 --> 01:36:36.000
<v Speaker 12>She's not happy about it. But there was a judge.

1764
01:36:36.079 --> 01:36:36.920
<v Speaker 2>It's a judge order.

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01:36:36.960 --> 01:36:39.239
<v Speaker 11>I mean, it was presented to the court and the

1766
01:36:39.279 --> 01:36:41.279
<v Speaker 11>evidence was presented and the judge signed off.

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01:36:41.199 --> 01:36:43.279
<v Speaker 2>On how much did he now the daughter's in charge?

1768
01:36:43.439 --> 01:36:46.199
<v Speaker 6>How much did the scammer get from the poor lady pat?

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01:36:47.880 --> 01:36:51.840
<v Speaker 12>I think around just shy of one hundred thousand.

1770
01:36:52.159 --> 01:36:54.520
<v Speaker 11>And I'll tell you what mark she was about ready

1771
01:36:54.560 --> 01:36:57.960
<v Speaker 11>to pull just shy of a half half.

1772
01:36:57.800 --> 01:36:58.960
<v Speaker 12>Million, half a million.

1773
01:36:59.079 --> 01:36:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Unbelievable.

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01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:03.000
<v Speaker 11>Oh and we finally got it into place prior to

1775
01:37:03.039 --> 01:37:04.680
<v Speaker 11>that going on, and I mean, it was scrambling to

1776
01:37:04.720 --> 01:37:07.039
<v Speaker 11>get this done, but we got it done. And so

1777
01:37:07.079 --> 01:37:08.520
<v Speaker 11>that's how you can go about it. And that's a

1778
01:37:08.600 --> 01:37:12.560
<v Speaker 11>terrible thing. I mean, it's just awful what folks will do.

1779
01:37:13.560 --> 01:37:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Wow. Let's Dan McKenzie's on the line. McKenzie law, a

1780
01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:26.840
<v Speaker 2>state planning attorney. Hey, Dan, Hey, So listen, Miles was

1781
01:37:26.880 --> 01:37:28.880
<v Speaker 2>about he's helping his parents.

1782
01:37:29.159 --> 01:37:30.439
<v Speaker 6>He has power of attorney.

1783
01:37:31.199 --> 01:37:35.399
<v Speaker 2>He's helping his parents sell their home and move into

1784
01:37:35.399 --> 01:37:39.319
<v Speaker 2>an assisted living facility that they picked out. But now

1785
01:37:39.359 --> 01:37:44.359
<v Speaker 2>the mom is having second thoughts, and he says the

1786
01:37:44.479 --> 01:37:49.560
<v Speaker 2>dad basically is totally incompetent, and he thinks the mom

1787
01:37:49.720 --> 01:37:53.720
<v Speaker 2>is too. How can he make them sell the house

1788
01:37:54.359 --> 01:37:58.239
<v Speaker 2>and move? At that age this becomes a very delicate topic.

1789
01:37:58.640 --> 01:38:00.800
<v Speaker 2>How do you navigate that? Dan?

1790
01:38:01.239 --> 01:38:01.800
<v Speaker 14>Yeah?

1791
01:38:02.000 --> 01:38:03.920
<v Speaker 27>Is that related to the conversation you were just having

1792
01:38:04.199 --> 01:38:05.560
<v Speaker 27>about the ya?

1793
01:38:06.359 --> 01:38:06.680
<v Speaker 8>Okay?

1794
01:38:07.239 --> 01:38:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Because yes?

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01:38:07.880 --> 01:38:08.479
<v Speaker 17>Usually so?

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01:38:08.840 --> 01:38:11.479
<v Speaker 27>Yeah, I think Kelly told me there's a power of

1797
01:38:11.520 --> 01:38:13.880
<v Speaker 27>attorney in play that. A power of attorney just says

1798
01:38:13.960 --> 01:38:17.520
<v Speaker 27>you can act on my behalf, but I still can too,

1799
01:38:17.800 --> 01:38:21.479
<v Speaker 27>and you can orally revoke powers of attorney. Actually it

1800
01:38:21.479 --> 01:38:24.680
<v Speaker 27>doesn't take anything fancy, so the person who signed the

1801
01:38:24.720 --> 01:38:27.239
<v Speaker 27>power of attorney really still has full control. They're just

1802
01:38:27.279 --> 01:38:28.760
<v Speaker 27>saying you also can.

1803
01:38:28.680 --> 01:38:29.439
<v Speaker 23>Do stuff for me.

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01:38:29.600 --> 01:38:31.720
<v Speaker 27>So if he feels like, look they need to not

1805
01:38:31.880 --> 01:38:35.880
<v Speaker 27>have control anymore. That does require a court order.

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01:38:37.479 --> 01:38:41.039
<v Speaker 2>Now, how is that done practically? How is it done?

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01:38:42.760 --> 01:38:46.000
<v Speaker 27>You petition the court to have a conservative appointed for

1808
01:38:46.079 --> 01:38:46.920
<v Speaker 27>these I.

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01:38:46.840 --> 01:38:49.279
<v Speaker 5>Mean, but you can do that for him, right? Isn't

1810
01:38:49.279 --> 01:38:51.159
<v Speaker 5>that typically how it would be done?

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01:38:51.880 --> 01:38:55.520
<v Speaker 27>Yeah, it's not a pleasant process. I will tell you

1812
01:38:55.600 --> 01:38:59.760
<v Speaker 27>that because the courts are appropriately nervous about it, because there,

1813
01:39:00.119 --> 01:39:02.479
<v Speaker 27>in a way a person's right to handle their own affairs,

1814
01:39:02.520 --> 01:39:05.399
<v Speaker 27>So they do. Typically there's going to be a hearing,

1815
01:39:05.960 --> 01:39:08.439
<v Speaker 27>you might need witnesses. Well, you definitely will need witnesses.

1816
01:39:08.520 --> 01:39:12.760
<v Speaker 27>You might need expert witnesses. And if the parents think

1817
01:39:13.399 --> 01:39:15.439
<v Speaker 27>sometimes the person who's the subject of the whole thing

1818
01:39:15.479 --> 01:39:18.239
<v Speaker 27>is sitting there saying no, I'm fine, and they don't

1819
01:39:18.239 --> 01:39:20.680
<v Speaker 27>always win that argument. But they can be there. It

1820
01:39:20.720 --> 01:39:23.039
<v Speaker 27>doesn't mean they're you know, unconscious in the hospital. They

1821
01:39:23.399 --> 01:39:25.800
<v Speaker 27>might be walking around and doing stuff, and that's the

1822
01:39:25.800 --> 01:39:29.399
<v Speaker 27>whole problem. So it's it is a pretty intense process

1823
01:39:29.399 --> 01:39:30.920
<v Speaker 27>actually in a lot of cases.

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01:39:32.119 --> 01:39:36.439
<v Speaker 2>Okay, And what happens to the parents? Do they get

1825
01:39:36.479 --> 01:39:39.520
<v Speaker 2>to hire an attorney? You know what? It seems to

1826
01:39:39.560 --> 01:39:43.079
<v Speaker 2>me like it's a little unbalanced if some young aggressive

1827
01:39:43.279 --> 01:39:46.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that's happening with Miles, but some younger

1828
01:39:46.760 --> 01:39:50.479
<v Speaker 2>aggressive child wants to take control of the finances and

1829
01:39:50.520 --> 01:39:55.319
<v Speaker 2>their parents are the parents, Like who represents the parents

1830
01:39:55.319 --> 01:39:56.119
<v Speaker 2>in these hearings.

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01:39:57.000 --> 01:40:00.840
<v Speaker 27>The parents can hire an attorney if they do. I've

1832
01:40:00.880 --> 01:40:04.520
<v Speaker 27>been in that position. If the court is concerned that

1833
01:40:04.600 --> 01:40:07.720
<v Speaker 27>they're not represented, they can point a guardian at item

1834
01:40:07.800 --> 01:40:11.680
<v Speaker 27>who can show up and basically be there to advocate

1835
01:40:11.720 --> 01:40:13.720
<v Speaker 27>and be how it's almost like having the you know,

1836
01:40:13.800 --> 01:40:16.159
<v Speaker 27>public defender appointed if you're in a criminal manner, but

1837
01:40:16.520 --> 01:40:19.279
<v Speaker 27>that yeah, it's a guardian appointed to argue in their behalf.

1838
01:40:21.560 --> 01:40:31.119
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh. So do you have any questions about it? Miles? Okay,

1839
01:40:31.159 --> 01:40:32.600
<v Speaker 2>I have to Miles.

1840
01:40:32.239 --> 01:40:33.359
<v Speaker 16>That I have to.

1841
01:40:34.119 --> 01:40:37.119
<v Speaker 14>I have to explain the whole situation that we are

1842
01:40:37.159 --> 01:40:42.399
<v Speaker 14>in right now, Okay, go ahead. Is that Okay, my

1843
01:40:42.560 --> 01:40:47.199
<v Speaker 14>father at home fell on my mother and she broke

1844
01:40:47.239 --> 01:40:52.960
<v Speaker 14>her ribs, and so they are now in a rehab facility.

1845
01:40:54.439 --> 01:40:59.359
<v Speaker 14>But my mother is good enough to be released, but

1846
01:40:59.439 --> 01:41:03.680
<v Speaker 14>they won't lease because he is in an unsafe environment.

1847
01:41:04.159 --> 01:41:07.159
<v Speaker 14>And we've been trying for years to get them to

1848
01:41:07.199 --> 01:41:09.640
<v Speaker 14>get out of their house. But we have all these

1849
01:41:09.680 --> 01:41:13.600
<v Speaker 14>doctors report saying that they cannot go home in the

1850
01:41:13.640 --> 01:41:17.640
<v Speaker 14>same situation that they're at. And we can hire a

1851
01:41:17.720 --> 01:41:22.520
<v Speaker 14>twenty four hour caregiver, but that's like thirty thousand dollars

1852
01:41:22.760 --> 01:41:25.960
<v Speaker 14>a month, and whereas we can put them into an

1853
01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:29.920
<v Speaker 14>assistant living a really nice place for like ten thousand

1854
01:41:29.960 --> 01:41:30.399
<v Speaker 14>and five.

1855
01:41:31.319 --> 01:41:37.239
<v Speaker 2>And Dan McKenzie, Yeah, Dan McKenzie, would that be worth taking,

1856
01:41:37.319 --> 01:41:41.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, trying to make a run for guardianship.

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01:41:41.520 --> 01:41:44.720
<v Speaker 27>Yeah, yeah, I mean that's probably what's Okay, happened, and

1858
01:41:44.800 --> 01:41:47.800
<v Speaker 27>that's you know, the family doesn't do it. The hospital

1859
01:41:47.880 --> 01:41:51.119
<v Speaker 27>might have already contacted Adult Protective Services. Sometimes they can

1860
01:41:51.159 --> 01:41:53.600
<v Speaker 27>involved in these situations where there are people living on

1861
01:41:53.640 --> 01:41:54.840
<v Speaker 27>their own or relation should not be.

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01:41:56.279 --> 01:41:58.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, let me just say it, Miles.

1863
01:41:58.640 --> 01:42:01.119
<v Speaker 6>You need you need a consultant attorney.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to take a break and Dan McKenzie is

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<v Speaker 2>has a question about drilling and when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>royalty or working interests. When people own oil and gas,

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01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:11.479
<v Speaker 2>they either own a royalty or that means they simply

1892
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<v Speaker 2>own the land or did something that awards them loyalty

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<v Speaker 2>for a gate count or every barrel, or they have

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<v Speaker 2>a working interest which means they're part of the corporation

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<v Speaker 2>that's doing the drilling.

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<v Speaker 6>Or they have property owner.

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<v Speaker 2>Rights which are direct leases to the mineral companies. And

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<v Speaker 2>which do you have, Kevin, this land that you bought,

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<v Speaker 2>did you buy the mineral rights?

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<v Speaker 13>No, we don't have mineral rights with it. We do

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01:44:47.479 --> 01:44:50.319
<v Speaker 13>get some money for each additional gas self. So I'm

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<v Speaker 13>not trying to be ridiculous. I just didn't know if this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is well, hold on, hold on, So you own the

1904
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<v Speaker 2>surface rights? How much land are we talking about?

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<v Speaker 13>Total properties? Thirty five acres? This is the this is

1906
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<v Speaker 13>the this is the question part we're having we keep

1907
01:45:04.760 --> 01:45:07.880
<v Speaker 13>going around and around with them. Is when we are closing,

1908
01:45:08.039 --> 01:45:10.359
<v Speaker 13>we were showing a paper from the old gas company,

1909
01:45:10.359 --> 01:45:15.239
<v Speaker 13>showed up two acre permanent gas well pad. And then

1910
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<v Speaker 13>then then they wanted us to sign a paper saying

1911
01:45:17.199 --> 01:45:20.680
<v Speaker 13>we give a more area and this from the old company.

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<v Speaker 13>We said no, we get a lawyer. Lawyer looked at

1913
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<v Speaker 13>I said, don't sign it. And now they've changed hands.

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<v Speaker 13>Now this new company is saying they have a four

1915
01:45:28.720 --> 01:45:33.479
<v Speaker 13>acre additional four acre temporary construction site. But that was

1916
01:45:33.520 --> 01:45:36.760
<v Speaker 13>part of the surface use agreement that expired in October

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<v Speaker 13>of twenty four.

1918
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, if it expired, it's expired. It's that easy. If

1919
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<v Speaker 2>there was an automatic renewal option that would be in it.

1920
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<v Speaker 6>Everything would be in your documentation.

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<v Speaker 2>So are you asking me, are they allowed to take

1922
01:45:54.359 --> 01:45:58.760
<v Speaker 2>an expired agreement and extend it? No, they're not.

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<v Speaker 13>Okay, and thank you. That's what we're trying to figure out.

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<v Speaker 13>Of course, when we talk to the new old Gast guy,

1925
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<v Speaker 13>he keeps me, I have no idea.

1926
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<v Speaker 16>I have no idea what you're talking about.

1927
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<v Speaker 13>We're like, well, it's in our closing papers. We'll send

1928
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<v Speaker 13>them to you. But I thought it maybe we should

1929
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<v Speaker 13>talk to somebody like yourself first before we do.

1930
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<v Speaker 2>And Kevin, you, so you have thirty five acres, it's

1931
01:46:18.359 --> 01:46:22.920
<v Speaker 2>called thirty five acres with outside mineral rights. You're you

1932
01:46:23.079 --> 01:46:28.000
<v Speaker 2>said the working contract expired in October. That would have

1933
01:46:28.119 --> 01:46:32.399
<v Speaker 2>allowed them, that would have allowed them to double the pad.

1934
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<v Speaker 9>Right, yes, exactly, okay, and.

1935
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<v Speaker 2>It's expired. Did you say to the person, well, that's

1936
01:46:42.239 --> 01:46:43.079
<v Speaker 2>an old agreement.

1937
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<v Speaker 13>That's what we've been saying to them, and they keep

1938
01:46:46.680 --> 01:46:49.439
<v Speaker 13>blowing past it, saying we're going to come in, put ourselves,

1939
01:46:49.520 --> 01:46:51.119
<v Speaker 13>we're going to put our seven wells, and we're going

1940
01:46:51.199 --> 01:46:53.279
<v Speaker 13>to be in and out right away. It's okay, but

1941
01:46:53.720 --> 01:46:55.920
<v Speaker 13>technically after October you're not even supposed to be on

1942
01:46:55.920 --> 01:46:59.079
<v Speaker 13>the property. You don't have a surface use agreement past

1943
01:46:59.119 --> 01:47:01.800
<v Speaker 13>October of twenty five. You were supposed to reclamate this

1944
01:47:02.119 --> 01:47:04.760
<v Speaker 13>and be gone at that point.

1945
01:47:04.760 --> 01:47:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, then then you're you know, they're just hoping that

1946
01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:09.119
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to do anything.

1947
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<v Speaker 13>Okay, And then one more quick question with that is

1948
01:47:14.439 --> 01:47:19.479
<v Speaker 13>on under closing papers. The as built diagram from the

1949
01:47:19.520 --> 01:47:22.439
<v Speaker 13>old Guess Law company showed a two acre permanent side

1950
01:47:22.479 --> 01:47:26.039
<v Speaker 13>two point zero four acres as the permanent production facility.

1951
01:47:26.239 --> 01:47:28.479
<v Speaker 13>Can we hold them to that saying that that is

1952
01:47:28.560 --> 01:47:30.920
<v Speaker 13>all you were allowed since that is what we were

1953
01:47:31.000 --> 01:47:34.039
<v Speaker 13>are closing paper showed from the old oil of course,

1954
01:47:34.079 --> 01:47:34.920
<v Speaker 13>does that makes sense?

1955
01:47:34.960 --> 01:47:35.520
<v Speaker 3>Of course?

1956
01:47:36.680 --> 01:47:40.079
<v Speaker 2>Of course, unless the closing docs were in error and

1957
01:47:40.119 --> 01:47:44.319
<v Speaker 2>the underlying paperwork says more. You know, the original contract

1958
01:47:44.359 --> 01:47:47.600
<v Speaker 2>for mineral rights is what is what's going to prevail.

1959
01:47:48.359 --> 01:47:52.399
<v Speaker 2>So if someone misrepresented the property upon sale and your

1960
01:47:52.600 --> 01:47:55.399
<v Speaker 2>closing docs say that, you just have to make sure

1961
01:47:55.439 --> 01:47:59.039
<v Speaker 2>the closing docs jive with the original paperwork.

1962
01:48:00.479 --> 01:48:05.239
<v Speaker 13>Okay, And the original state permit showed a four acre pad,

1963
01:48:05.800 --> 01:48:08.520
<v Speaker 13>but our papers as an as built shows a two

1964
01:48:08.560 --> 01:48:11.119
<v Speaker 13>point oh you know, two acre permanent see.

1965
01:48:11.000 --> 01:48:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Kevin, Kevin, Now that's burying the lead. You're telling me

1966
01:48:16.159 --> 01:48:20.560
<v Speaker 2>that there was original paperwork for four acres on.

1967
01:48:20.560 --> 01:48:22.359
<v Speaker 13>The original Oh yeah, that's just a blanket and it

1968
01:48:22.399 --> 01:48:24.920
<v Speaker 13>also showed eighteen wells. But they can't put eighteen wells

1969
01:48:24.960 --> 01:48:25.359
<v Speaker 13>on four.

1970
01:48:25.640 --> 01:48:28.880
<v Speaker 2>That was just it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. There's

1971
01:48:28.960 --> 01:48:35.920
<v Speaker 2>original paperwork for eight acres you're saying, or four acres. Okay,

1972
01:48:36.359 --> 01:48:40.279
<v Speaker 2>hold on, and this four acres was for the pump pads.

1973
01:48:42.159 --> 01:48:45.199
<v Speaker 13>I'm assuming so because that doesn't really show up on anything.

1974
01:48:45.239 --> 01:48:48.159
<v Speaker 2>Okay, then hold on. Then then why did you tell

1975
01:48:48.239 --> 01:48:51.720
<v Speaker 2>me they only have two acres?

1976
01:48:51.960 --> 01:48:55.479
<v Speaker 13>Because the as built on our closing papers from the

1977
01:48:55.560 --> 01:48:58.920
<v Speaker 13>old Nickel Road operating, you know, shows a schematic and

1978
01:48:59.039 --> 01:49:03.399
<v Speaker 13>shows two acres outline it says permanent production facility two acres.

1979
01:49:04.680 --> 01:49:10.600
<v Speaker 2>Hey, that's true. What so, here's what they're saying. There's

1980
01:49:10.640 --> 01:49:14.640
<v Speaker 2>four acres, they've used two of them, and they advise

1981
01:49:14.720 --> 01:49:17.720
<v Speaker 2>you that of closing. That doesn't take away the other

1982
01:49:17.760 --> 01:49:23.640
<v Speaker 2>two acres. Kevin, Okay, okay, that doesn't. That doesn't I mean, sir,

1983
01:49:24.000 --> 01:49:26.359
<v Speaker 2>and I don't even know what you're talking about as

1984
01:49:26.399 --> 01:49:30.479
<v Speaker 2>far as this. You said something the surface use agreement

1985
01:49:30.880 --> 01:49:35.600
<v Speaker 2>for pump heads expired. That's true. They can't expand it,

1986
01:49:36.000 --> 01:49:38.239
<v Speaker 2>but they don't have to. They have four acres.

1987
01:49:39.600 --> 01:49:41.199
<v Speaker 13>Well, they need more than the four to put their

1988
01:49:41.239 --> 01:49:44.079
<v Speaker 13>temporary construction site, though I think the whole the additional

1989
01:49:44.119 --> 01:49:44.720
<v Speaker 13>pad is well.

1990
01:49:44.760 --> 01:49:50.239
<v Speaker 2>The temporary construction. Listen, bro, the temporary construction is not

1991
01:49:50.439 --> 01:49:58.359
<v Speaker 2>a surface use agreement. Okay, the temporary construction is outside

1992
01:49:58.800 --> 01:50:06.319
<v Speaker 2>of the surface use agree. So you have to go yes,

1993
01:50:06.600 --> 01:50:10.560
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter. Here's what they're saying. We own surface

1994
01:50:10.640 --> 01:50:14.239
<v Speaker 2>rights to your property, and in order to do it,

1995
01:50:14.600 --> 01:50:16.920
<v Speaker 2>we have to put some wells on there, and in

1996
01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:19.760
<v Speaker 2>order to do it, we're gonna have some extra property

1997
01:50:19.800 --> 01:50:24.840
<v Speaker 2>we use temporarily for equipment. That separate agreement for the

1998
01:50:24.920 --> 01:50:30.159
<v Speaker 2>construction site or the equipment is what prevails. Otherwise what

1999
01:50:30.239 --> 01:50:32.800
<v Speaker 2>you're going to end up doing. You can thwart them

2000
01:50:32.840 --> 01:50:36.000
<v Speaker 2>a bit, but the bottom line is if they have

2001
01:50:36.239 --> 01:50:40.000
<v Speaker 2>the four acres, they're going to use the four acres.

2002
01:50:40.279 --> 01:50:44.239
<v Speaker 2>And if you technically end up being correct, well you

2003
01:50:44.319 --> 01:50:48.079
<v Speaker 2>can have the four acres, but you can temporarily use

2004
01:50:48.159 --> 01:50:52.319
<v Speaker 2>our property for storage. Well, then they're just gonna bring

2005
01:50:52.359 --> 01:50:55.399
<v Speaker 2>equipment in and out of the property as they need it.

2006
01:50:56.760 --> 01:50:59.680
<v Speaker 2>On the four acres. It's not going to get you

2007
01:50:59.760 --> 01:51:04.079
<v Speaker 2>out of that four acre commitment. The original paperwork is

2008
01:51:04.119 --> 01:51:09.359
<v Speaker 2>what prevails. You bought it subject to those four acres

2009
01:51:09.800 --> 01:51:14.199
<v Speaker 2>being an oil site. Do you get paid anything.

2010
01:51:13.800 --> 01:51:16.600
<v Speaker 13>For this, Yeah, we get, we get We're gonna get

2011
01:51:16.640 --> 01:51:18.800
<v Speaker 13>some for the additional wells. Yeah yeah, we're gonna get

2012
01:51:18.840 --> 01:51:20.479
<v Speaker 13>some for that additional wellhead.

2013
01:51:20.600 --> 01:51:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Do you get regular checks or is it a one

2014
01:51:22.960 --> 01:51:23.600
<v Speaker 2>time payment?

2015
01:51:23.640 --> 01:51:25.680
<v Speaker 13>No, just just a one time payment on it.

2016
01:51:27.800 --> 01:51:31.439
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Kevin, I think every I don't think they're trying

2017
01:51:31.439 --> 01:51:35.520
<v Speaker 2>to screw you. And I caution people if you have

2018
01:51:36.359 --> 01:51:41.159
<v Speaker 2>if you buy property with outside mineral rights, you better

2019
01:51:41.199 --> 01:51:44.880
<v Speaker 2>be very very certain that you can live with the

2020
01:51:44.960 --> 01:51:47.920
<v Speaker 2>terms and conditions. There have been some people that bought

2021
01:51:47.960 --> 01:51:51.159
<v Speaker 2>property when I was out buying property back in the day,

2022
01:51:51.600 --> 01:51:55.439
<v Speaker 2>and they buy property subject to these rights, not thinking

2023
01:51:55.600 --> 01:51:59.800
<v Speaker 2>anything would happen, and they end up not being able

2024
01:51:59.840 --> 01:52:02.640
<v Speaker 2>to build a subdivision or something they wanted to build

2025
01:52:02.680 --> 01:52:05.600
<v Speaker 2>on a good part of it because of it, because

2026
01:52:05.680 --> 01:52:09.640
<v Speaker 2>it severely restricts you. So I hope the rest of

2027
01:52:09.680 --> 01:52:12.680
<v Speaker 2>your land though it doesn't hinder the use of your land, right.

2028
01:52:13.079 --> 01:52:15.039
<v Speaker 13>Oh no, no, Look it's on the north end. I

2029
01:52:15.039 --> 01:52:16.800
<v Speaker 13>mean we knew obviously, we knew it there and the

2030
01:52:16.880 --> 01:52:19.079
<v Speaker 13>site clear at the north end of the property. It's

2031
01:52:19.119 --> 01:52:20.640
<v Speaker 13>not like in the middle of the properties. You know,

2032
01:52:20.720 --> 01:52:22.880
<v Speaker 13>to us We're fine with it. When we bought it,

2033
01:52:22.880 --> 01:52:25.000
<v Speaker 13>it just we thought they were going to reclimate it

2034
01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:26.239
<v Speaker 13>and get out, and then all of a sudden they

2035
01:52:26.239 --> 01:52:28.119
<v Speaker 13>show up saying they're going to still do a bunch

2036
01:52:28.119 --> 01:52:31.119
<v Speaker 13>of work. And we thought that that that the surface

2037
01:52:31.199 --> 01:52:35.319
<v Speaker 13>use for the the temporary construction part expired, but apparently

2038
01:52:35.319 --> 01:52:38.399
<v Speaker 13>it doesn't, so that's fine too, all.

2039
01:52:38.359 --> 01:52:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Right, Kevin, thank you for calling three O three seven

2040
01:52:40.680 --> 01:52:43.359
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2041
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<v Speaker 2>nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martine here

2051
01:53:28.520 --> 01:53:31.960
<v Speaker 2>at three O three seven one three talk seven one

2052
01:53:32.000 --> 01:53:34.680
<v Speaker 2>three A two five five. Well, we got a lot

2053
01:53:34.760 --> 01:53:39.079
<v Speaker 2>going on today, a very eclectic lists of problems. Let's

2054
01:53:39.159 --> 01:53:43.039
<v Speaker 2>talk to Phil on his homeowner's insurance.

2055
01:53:43.039 --> 01:53:44.680
<v Speaker 6>Phil, go ahead, what's happening with you?

2056
01:53:44.760 --> 01:53:45.079
<v Speaker 2>Phil?

2057
01:53:46.319 --> 01:53:52.039
<v Speaker 20>Hey? Tom, if you recall about a week, week and

2058
01:53:52.079 --> 01:53:56.039
<v Speaker 20>a half ago, this woman called in for this older

2059
01:53:56.159 --> 01:54:01.159
<v Speaker 20>lady that had problems on a roof and she would

2060
01:54:01.760 --> 01:54:08.119
<v Speaker 20>with home site insurance. Do you recall anything.

2061
01:54:09.600 --> 01:54:12.640
<v Speaker 2>I recall something like it. I don't recall it specifically,

2062
01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:14.039
<v Speaker 2>what is the problem?

2063
01:54:14.720 --> 01:54:17.399
<v Speaker 20>And the insurance company was only going to pay her

2064
01:54:17.439 --> 01:54:21.039
<v Speaker 20>eight hundred dollars to repair her roof or something like that.

2065
01:54:23.439 --> 01:54:29.079
<v Speaker 2>I remember something like that. Home Site. Yeah, here's what happened.

2066
01:54:30.279 --> 01:54:33.199
<v Speaker 2>It's it was a ninety year old woman, Ruth had

2067
01:54:33.279 --> 01:54:38.319
<v Speaker 2>AARP insurance for twenty five years. They dropped her and

2068
01:54:38.359 --> 01:54:41.560
<v Speaker 2>she got a new policy with home Site. After a

2069
01:54:41.680 --> 01:54:44.760
<v Speaker 2>year and a half, she had a hailstorm and her

2070
01:54:44.760 --> 01:54:48.239
<v Speaker 2>insurance only paid eight hundred dollars. That was assigned to

2071
01:54:48.319 --> 01:54:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Deputy D. Deputy D. What happened with that? He's not here, Tom,

2072
01:54:55.840 --> 01:54:58.720
<v Speaker 2>He stepped out for the Rockies. Oh, I thought he sorry,

2073
01:54:58.760 --> 01:55:03.079
<v Speaker 2>we didn't wh okay, Well, you know what, I don't

2074
01:55:03.119 --> 01:55:04.000
<v Speaker 2>know what happened with that?

2075
01:55:04.840 --> 01:55:08.079
<v Speaker 20>Yeah, I was kind of curious because I have Homesite

2076
01:55:08.319 --> 01:55:16.720
<v Speaker 20>Insurance is a Geico sister company, Homesite I had.

2077
01:55:17.600 --> 01:55:20.399
<v Speaker 6>We'll get that update from a Monday for you for sure.

2078
01:55:20.560 --> 01:55:23.439
<v Speaker 20>Man, Yeah, Mark, I need you to fight for me.

2079
01:55:23.880 --> 01:55:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Mark, Well tell me what's going on, Tom, tell us

2080
01:55:27.800 --> 01:55:28.439
<v Speaker 2>what's going on.

2081
01:55:29.920 --> 01:55:36.560
<v Speaker 20>Twenty twenty three February, I had water damage caused by

2082
01:55:38.039 --> 01:55:42.720
<v Speaker 20>water pressure going in from the from the street, from

2083
01:55:42.800 --> 01:55:47.600
<v Speaker 20>the meter. I had one hundred and twenty pounds of.

2084
01:55:47.640 --> 01:55:53.359
<v Speaker 2>Pointa phil Phil. So you're saying that the city's water

2085
01:55:53.439 --> 01:55:54.399
<v Speaker 2>meter was off.

2086
01:55:55.880 --> 01:55:59.199
<v Speaker 20>Yeah, like one hundred and twenty pounds or one hundred

2087
01:55:59.239 --> 01:56:00.760
<v Speaker 20>and ten pounds to pressure.

2088
01:56:01.039 --> 01:56:04.640
<v Speaker 2>But was it the cities? What was it the city's

2089
01:56:04.800 --> 01:56:05.760
<v Speaker 2>meter that did that?

2090
01:56:06.680 --> 01:56:08.319
<v Speaker 20>Yes, Arveda, Colorado.

2091
01:56:08.479 --> 01:56:11.560
<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, so go ahead.

2092
01:56:11.720 --> 01:56:15.359
<v Speaker 20>So I talked to a couple of guys that came

2093
01:56:15.399 --> 01:56:19.359
<v Speaker 20>out looked and that he said that my water pressure

2094
01:56:19.439 --> 01:56:27.880
<v Speaker 20>is way too high. So they put a regulator on there.

2095
01:56:28.920 --> 01:56:30.920
<v Speaker 20>And I said, you know, I've been here for thirty

2096
01:56:30.960 --> 01:56:34.960
<v Speaker 20>seven years the same place. I've never had trouble with

2097
01:56:35.000 --> 01:56:42.640
<v Speaker 20>this before. So anyways, let's let's get get to it that.

2098
01:56:43.079 --> 01:56:47.640
<v Speaker 2>What happened when you put phil, when you put a

2099
01:56:47.720 --> 01:56:50.880
<v Speaker 2>regulator on. So did they go into your basement or

2100
01:56:50.920 --> 01:56:54.000
<v Speaker 2>wherever and say, we're going to regulate the pressure.

2101
01:56:55.479 --> 01:56:58.880
<v Speaker 20>Yes, yeah, yeah, so they put that on there and

2102
01:56:58.920 --> 01:57:02.000
<v Speaker 20>then they turned it and that you cut down the pressure.

2103
01:57:02.960 --> 01:57:08.279
<v Speaker 20>But man, I'll tell you.

2104
01:57:07.920 --> 01:57:09.119
<v Speaker 16>Anyway, what tell me?

2105
01:57:09.960 --> 01:57:15.840
<v Speaker 20>Tell me mine from the thicket busted. I had water

2106
01:57:15.960 --> 01:57:20.439
<v Speaker 20>all over the basement, probably about six inches of water everywhere.

2107
01:57:21.720 --> 01:57:23.880
<v Speaker 14>And uh, I called.

2108
01:57:26.800 --> 01:57:30.439
<v Speaker 2>What company put in? What company put in the secondary

2109
01:57:31.079 --> 01:57:35.159
<v Speaker 2>what company put in that secondary regulator valve?

2110
01:57:37.720 --> 01:57:41.279
<v Speaker 20>It was the city, Yeah, it was a city. And

2111
01:57:41.399 --> 01:57:43.520
<v Speaker 20>I told him, I said, you know what. I went

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<v Speaker 20>down there and I told you you caused my problem

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<v Speaker 20>because I two of my toilets blew out too, and

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<v Speaker 20>I had to replace Phil.

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<v Speaker 2>Phil. Yeah, I know, I know that. I know you

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<v Speaker 2>have the story in your head. Let me let me

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<v Speaker 2>just recap. You're saying that the water damaged the bottom line,

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<v Speaker 2>the water damage your property due to our Vada City

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<v Speaker 2>water system, right.

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<v Speaker 20>Yeah, too much pressure or volume.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't understand this part. When you complained about

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<v Speaker 2>the pressure, they put a secondary water pressure valve in.

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<v Speaker 20>Yeah, after my plumber came out and fixed the piping,

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<v Speaker 20>and then matter of fact, they didn't do it. The

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<v Speaker 20>plumber put in the regulator.

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<v Speaker 8>That yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 5>I was going to say, I have generally they just

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<v Speaker 5>run you the tap. Then you have a regulator.

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<v Speaker 2>At your house, right right, That's what I was saying. So,

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<v Speaker 2>so here's here's the thing, Phil, I don't think that

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<v Speaker 2>original damage was done by Arvada at all. It's because

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<v Speaker 2>your valve went bad and then you had a new

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<v Speaker 2>valve put in. You can't blame the city for this.

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<v Speaker 6>It's two years ago. So why why the call today

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<v Speaker 6>about it? I don't get that part.

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<v Speaker 20>Well, listen, I'm having trouble with Home Site Insurance in

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<v Speaker 20>the claim. I had four people over here on the

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<v Speaker 20>damage on the basement. The insurance company paid me, which

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<v Speaker 20>I didn't like the price neither, But they did pay

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<v Speaker 20>me for my personal property.

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<v Speaker 2>But why did they they decline?

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<v Speaker 6>Why did they decline everything? But the persons?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what they declined. He just said

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<v Speaker 2>they paid for his personal property. What did they.

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<v Speaker 6>Decline the damage? Like what, I'm flooring?

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<v Speaker 14>What?

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<v Speaker 20>Yes, you're right, mark the flooring everything else. And I

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<v Speaker 20>called them back up a couple months later, and he said,

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<v Speaker 20>you know, you never told us how much is going

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<v Speaker 20>to cost for the construction, the carpet, the tiling and

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<v Speaker 20>all the old stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Phil, So I, Phil, you said something, Phil, hold On,

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<v Speaker 2>you said something about two failures. I think you said

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<v Speaker 2>in February twenty twenty three the pipers due to high pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>Then your plumber came in and put a new one in,

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<v Speaker 2>and that one failed to or not or was I misunderstandable?

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<v Speaker 20>No, no, it didn't fail. It's worth yeah, okay, fixed

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<v Speaker 20>it right, and he got it. He put the regulator in,

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<v Speaker 20>but got it. They did pay me for my personal

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<v Speaker 20>property at that time, but not the construction part, the paneling,

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<v Speaker 20>the tile, the flooring, the ceiling tile where the water

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<v Speaker 20>came in from the ceiling because of.

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<v Speaker 2>This, Okay, let's get Compass insurance on hold On, Phil,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even want to talk because I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>why they would pay for personal property but not the

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<v Speaker 2>other It's kind of weird. Let's ask Brian Burns from

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<v Speaker 2>Compass Insurance to come on, all right, then we'll learn something.

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<v Speaker 2>Three oh three seven one three talk three oh three

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<v Speaker 2>seven one three eight two five five. Hey, valet parking

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<v Speaker 2>at a hospital. It's a great topic. We're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 2>about coming up. I'll tell you why. I find it

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<v Speaker 2>to be one of the most convenient services ever, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's always free. But Key has a problem. We'll find

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<v Speaker 2>out about that and more coming up on the Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing

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<v Speaker 2>time for an insurance check up free, no obligation. In comparison,

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<v Speaker 2>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

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<v Speaker 2>of insurance companies find out now three oh three, seven

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<v Speaker 2>to seven to one help. You'll think you're his only

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<v Speaker 2>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man

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<v Speaker 2>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

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<v Speaker 2>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. I'm Tom Martine.

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<v Speaker 2>You're Troubleshooter three three seven one three talks seven one

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<v Speaker 2>three two five five. Brian Burns is with us from

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<v Speaker 2>the Insurance Health Center dot com or or Compass Insurance Group,

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<v Speaker 2>home of the free insurance checkups. I'll give you that

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<v Speaker 2>number when he's done. Hey, Brian, so, Phil had a

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<v Speaker 2>water pipe burst due to improper water pressure and his

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<v Speaker 2>insurance company is paying for his personal property, but won't

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<v Speaker 2>pay for any of the cosmetic repairs.

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<v Speaker 9>That does not make sense to me. Okay, so you're saying,

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<v Speaker 9>like the damage to the carpet, drywall, that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 9>they're not willing to pay.

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<v Speaker 2>For that, right, they won't pay for that, only his

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<v Speaker 2>personal property.

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<v Speaker 9>That makes zero sense. Does he have a denial letter?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I think we're missing part of it. If I

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<v Speaker 6>had to ask him, and we'll bring him back up.

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<v Speaker 6>But Phil, did you ever get them an estimate or

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<v Speaker 6>anything anything at all?

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<v Speaker 20>Listen? Mark, Tom listened. I got two estates, one from

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<v Speaker 20>Handymanned Connections his name, Yes, yeah, okay, I got an

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<v Speaker 20>estimate there from Ace Handymanned Connection estimate. I had both

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<v Speaker 20>of them come out here.

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<v Speaker 2>Phil.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you give me to your insurance company?

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<v Speaker 20>Well, let me finish. So they told me to send

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<v Speaker 20>them the estimate the insurance company. They did not receive

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<v Speaker 20>the estimates. A week later, I called them and they

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<v Speaker 20>said they didn't receive this.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Brian, this is two years ago, so I want

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<v Speaker 5>I want Brian to understand that part too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But here's what I need to know, Phil, Here's

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<v Speaker 2>what I need to know. They did not pay for

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<v Speaker 2>any of the repairs. Now correct me if I'm wrong, Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>If something uncovered broke, they would fix the damages that

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<v Speaker 2>the uncovered item caused, but it would not cover the

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<v Speaker 2>It would not cover the repair of the uncovered item, exactly.

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<v Speaker 9>That's exactly right. The damage that's caused from it is

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<v Speaker 9>what would be covered. But what makes zero sense to me, Tom,

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<v Speaker 9>is if you're going to cover the personal property, why

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<v Speaker 9>in the world where would did the exclusion be for

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<v Speaker 9>the actual dwell?

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<v Speaker 6>There is no exclusion.

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<v Speaker 5>He never sent the estimate in or he sent it,

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<v Speaker 5>but nobody ever got it.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, gotcha? So that's really do you think that's what?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, how do you know, Mark, how do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Because that's what Phil literally just said.

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<v Speaker 20>All right, Phil, listen tomp So, after I had that

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<v Speaker 20>water damage done in February or January where I had

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<v Speaker 20>that water pressure problem and it busted the line, a

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<v Speaker 20>month later, I got a letter from the insurance company

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<v Speaker 20>that they are going to cancel my insurance. On March fifteenth.

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<v Speaker 20>I thought, okay, you're playing hard ball with me. Okay,

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<v Speaker 20>So I called Excel Roofing and I talked to Jeff

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<v Speaker 20>Smith down there he came out, looked at my roof

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<v Speaker 20>and said that I got damage on my roof for

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<v Speaker 20>hail damage. So they home said, sent out adjuster with

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<v Speaker 20>Jeff got up on the roof and the adjuster said,

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<v Speaker 20>you don't have hell damage. You do have heal damage.

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<v Speaker 20>But it happened in twenty nineteen. They they died by

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<v Speaker 20>claim there. I said, okay, I'm going back to the

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<v Speaker 20>basement where I had that water damage and reopened the

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<v Speaker 20>claim up with this, which should be the same place.

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<v Speaker 2>Phil, you're making You're making no sense to me. So

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<v Speaker 2>when they told you they were going to cancel you,

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<v Speaker 2>you decided to put in a roof claim. Why didn't

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<v Speaker 2>you put in a roof claim before that?

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<v Speaker 20>I thought, well, March fifteenth. I thought, well, I'm going

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<v Speaker 20>to have my roof checked out before March fifteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>But Phil, they Phil having your roof checked out, Phil,

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<v Speaker 2>it has to be tied to a specific event. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't just get to get the insurance company to give

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<v Speaker 2>you a new roof, even if you have hail insurance.

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<v Speaker 20>Brian tell them, I understand that.

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<v Speaker 2>So so so what did they turned down your roof?

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<v Speaker 2>It probably was old hail damage. They don't have an

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<v Speaker 2>obligation to pay for anything more than.

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<v Speaker 12>A year old.

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<v Speaker 20>Well, according to from Jeff Smith of Excel the manager,

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<v Speaker 20>he said that he doesn't live too far from me

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<v Speaker 20>and he got hailed too back in June. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 20>matter time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well then, Phil, then Phil, you have to prove it. Then, Phil,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, You don't just get to put in

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<v Speaker 2>claims because you think it's a good idea to Mesu's

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<v Speaker 2>not the roof. His issues the basement, that's right, Mark, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because he was pissed off about the roof, so he

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<v Speaker 2>went back to the basement. And the basement's not being covered.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know why did you get a denial letter?

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<v Speaker 14>No?

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<v Speaker 20>I did not.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, then how do you know it's not being paid?

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<v Speaker 20>Well, this has been going on since.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you submit a bill? Did you submit a bill?

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<v Speaker 17>Well?

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<v Speaker 20>I gave them two estimates, one from Handyman's connection and

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<v Speaker 20>one from a And what.

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<v Speaker 2>Did they say? What did they say when you gave

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<v Speaker 2>them the estimates?

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<v Speaker 20>They said that they look into it, and Uh, get

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<v Speaker 20>in touch.

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<v Speaker 6>With me, Tom, I don't think you're following.

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<v Speaker 2>What the hell do you mean I'm not following?

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<v Speaker 20>Come on, Mark, I need Jordan the guy put in here.

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<v Speaker 2>He put in a claim for an insurance what he's now.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what it boils down to. After all those kakamamie stories,

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<v Speaker 2>it all boils down to this. He has an insurance

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<v Speaker 2>claim for damages to his house due to a water burst,

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<v Speaker 2>and they never got back to him after he sent

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<v Speaker 2>him estimates.

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<v Speaker 6>They never turned him down. He doesn't have a denial letter.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, they never.

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<v Speaker 22>Turned him down.

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<v Speaker 20>I want to ask you another question, tom or Mark

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<v Speaker 20>mark sure ahead listening? Mark on the damage on my

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<v Speaker 20>personal property which they paid me? Yes, and my deductible.

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<v Speaker 20>You wouldn't believe what my deductible was. It was four

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<v Speaker 20>four and seventy dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 20>Yeah, they put me in a mouse house. But anyways, what.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the question I got?

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<v Speaker 20>I got the claim for the construction damage like the

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<v Speaker 20>floor and the tile and everything else.

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<v Speaker 10>Got it?

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<v Speaker 20>Do I still have to pay another deductible?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Oh, what are you talking about? Only if it's

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<v Speaker 2>another Only if it's another event. If it's another.

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<v Speaker 20>Event, you do it's the same claim number.

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<v Speaker 2>No, then you don't pay another deductible? Okay, Phil, I

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<v Speaker 2>suggest you call a public adjuster. Give him the name

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<v Speaker 2>of services off the Brian. I'm putting him on.

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<v Speaker 6>Hold real quick.

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<v Speaker 5>Seriously, though, Let's say we go back to February of

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty three and they were paying on the claim.

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<v Speaker 5>That's evident because they put him up somewhere in his

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<v Speaker 5>mouse house and they paid for some of his personal items.

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<v Speaker 5>And let's say he did get estimates but he never

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<v Speaker 5>got him to them, or they're claiming they never got him.

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<v Speaker 5>When does that expire? How long do you have after

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<v Speaker 5>January of twenty twenty three to still deal with this claim.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, that's a great question, because to file the claim,

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<v Speaker 9>you have, like Tom mentioned the twelve months. With most carriers,

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<v Speaker 9>they look at that you have one year. But when

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<v Speaker 9>you file the claim and you want to reopen, I

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<v Speaker 9>believe that timeframe is longer. So I really think you would.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's three years, exactly.

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<v Speaker 9>What I think it is too. I think it's three

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<v Speaker 9>I think what we.

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<v Speaker 5>Do then, in all seriousness, we put this either with

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<v Speaker 5>Dimitri or Bow or Doc and they call up this

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<v Speaker 5>guy and then make a call to the insurance company

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<v Speaker 5>to see where it's at at.

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<v Speaker 9>Right. Yeah, well, yeah, I mean yeah, that's what we do.

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<v Speaker 2>Heard I never even heard Mark that's exactly what we do.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't even know if they ever acknowledged that they

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<v Speaker 9>got the.

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<v Speaker 2>They did it. Yeah, I'm gonna hope they never did. Phil.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna ask Phil a question real quick, Phil, just

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<v Speaker 5>the answer to this. Did they say they never receive

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<v Speaker 5>those estimates?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that yes? Or no?

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<v Speaker 20>Sh No, they did not receive Thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, that's it, So we're on the right path now.

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<v Speaker 6>See that was easy.

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<v Speaker 16>I got.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta move on. Jay, you have a comment on this,

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Jay, quickly. What's your comment?

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<v Speaker 16>He had one hundred, He had one hundred and twenty psi.

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<v Speaker 16>They put in a regulator, then a pigot blue and

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<v Speaker 16>flooded the basement. The spigot runs from the basement out

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<v Speaker 16>to the exterior of the house. They probably have no

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<v Speaker 16>protection on the spigot, just the interior of the house plumbing.

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<v Speaker 16>If they still have one hundred and twenty psi at

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<v Speaker 16>are that a He still has one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 16>psi at those particular points in his house, and he

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<v Speaker 16>could have a lot more trouble come in his way.

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<v Speaker 2>So he needs to make well, Okay, good point. Good point.

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<v Speaker 2>If they didn't put it in the right place, or

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<v Speaker 2>if he has pressure coming in he needs a plumber

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<v Speaker 2>to check it out to make sure he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk to Key No pun intended. He has a

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<v Speaker 2>valet issue. Key. What's happening?

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<v Speaker 20>Hey, Tom?

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<v Speaker 22>Yeah, I brought my car into uh the hospital valet parking.

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<v Speaker 22>I left noticed that there was a scratch on my

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<v Speaker 22>front bumper. Came back.

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<v Speaker 2>What hospital was it? What hospital? You see?

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<v Speaker 22>You see hill?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, now you see health. What they do is they

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<v Speaker 2>take pictures of the car before they park it.

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<v Speaker 22>Exactly exactly, so I thought that, Uh so, what happened

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<v Speaker 22>to the picture? I came back, I said that my

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<v Speaker 22>car was scratched here, and uh they told me, uh,

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<v Speaker 22>hold on, wait, uh took a little information. I speak

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<v Speaker 22>to a supervisor. Then they told me that they were

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<v Speaker 22>in a meeting. Then uh, I said, wait, I'm waiting now,

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<v Speaker 22>I'm here exactly right now, and they just now came

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<v Speaker 22>out right when you came under the line, I know,

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<v Speaker 22>I came like, and what did they say? They're saying

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<v Speaker 22>that they're not responsible because I left?

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<v Speaker 6>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 13>You?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean you left? What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 22>The incident happened yesterday at one fifteen. We were in

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<v Speaker 22>there to a well actually twelve fifteen. Between twelve fifteen

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<v Speaker 22>and one thirty four and one thirty four, I came out,

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<v Speaker 22>picked up the truck, went home, woke up this morning,

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<v Speaker 22>came out.

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<v Speaker 5>And see, Oh they're saying Tom that basically he's had

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<v Speaker 5>the truck the last twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 6>How did they know they did.

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<v Speaker 22>The damage exactly exactly what they're saying.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, that's a pretty fair question.

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<v Speaker 2>Well hold on, well, hold on, did they was that

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<v Speaker 2>they really take a lot like they take at least

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<v Speaker 2>six photos of each car. Was your car photographed?

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<v Speaker 5>It was, But even if it wasn't there, what they're

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<v Speaker 5>saying is it's there now, but it already left them.

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<v Speaker 9>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I get it, I get it. I get it.

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<v Speaker 5>The photos probably don't show the damage, but the damage

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<v Speaker 5>is there the next day.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't take photos when he picked up the car.

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<v Speaker 7>He took photos before he gave them the car.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right, But he should have mentioned the scratch when

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<v Speaker 2>he picked up the car, because they're saying it could

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<v Speaker 2>have been done afterwards. But apparently he didn't see it

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<v Speaker 2>when he picked up the car.

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<v Speaker 17>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But but if you look at the UC health guidelines,

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<v Speaker 2>they tell us to check the car's condition.

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<v Speaker 22>Yeah, I guess so. I never I wanted it was

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<v Speaker 22>my wife to be Okay, So that's all I was

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<v Speaker 22>thinking about at the time.

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<v Speaker 6>Let me ask you this, No, I get you, bro,

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<v Speaker 6>Where were you going out there?

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<v Speaker 22>We were going to cardiology. Is that's what you were asking?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it the outpatient pavilion, the cancer pavilion.

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<v Speaker 16>Which pavilion It's in the main building.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let me let me explain something. I know this

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't do you any good, but I want to explain

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<v Speaker 2>something specifically about UC Health Hospital's valet service. They've been

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<v Speaker 2>rated in the top five in the country, okay, and

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<v Speaker 2>for for service and for dependability. And I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't I don't know if they did it

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<v Speaker 2>or not. Okay, I don't know that. But really, where

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<v Speaker 2>was it on the car physically? Where is this scratch?

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<v Speaker 22>It's on the driver's side bumper and I'm already having

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<v Speaker 22>a ding on the bumper and I bought it that way,

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<v Speaker 22>but it goes into the actual body of the truck.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, why didn't you notice it?

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<v Speaker 22>Well, they had like maybe fifty cars in this area

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<v Speaker 22>that you get the valet in.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you're right, you're right. They hand you the key

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<v Speaker 2>and they want you to get the heck out of there.

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<v Speaker 22>Yeah, and there was an issue with it because.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you know what, hold on, hey, Deputy Bow, Deputy Bow.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see if we can give them a call and

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<v Speaker 2>just see what they say about it. Kevin Call can

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