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get into today. I feel like there has been a reckoning. Okay,
there has been a turn. There has been a bit
of a moment shift nationally with the pundits, the analysts,
the talking heads.
Speaker 5: Not everyone was.
Speaker 4: Buying into who BYU was throughout the season, even though
they were winning They.
Speaker 2: Were winning in a resilient way. They were winning in
a gritty way. The margin of victories were not robust.
Speaker 4: They just found a way to win, whethers on the
road or at home. But it didn't always look pretty,
this complimentary style Cougar football team. But when it's all
said and done and by the end of the regular season,
they had some style points. They went on the road
and beat Cincinnati. Okay, and they did it in a
convincing fashion. They did it with with LJ. Martin, the
Big Twelve Offensive Player of the Year. Okay, they have
a true freshman quarterback that is arguably the best quarterback
in college football. His PFF grade validates that he's the
top football player top freshman football player in college football
per PFF. They start to slow down and not be
distracted these punditsies, analysts, these talking heads. They start to
they start to stack up the resumes against each other.
Speaker 5: And when you do that, you're like, well, I'll be dawned.
Speaker 2: Look you there, aha, epiphany, epiphany, You know what by
is getting kind of cheated here? Wait wait wait wait wait,
you're telling me BYU BYU is he's only lost three
games over the last two seasons hot, damn.
Speaker 5: Well, what do you know? You know, maybe maybe they
are getting screwed here. Wait wait, ye know. BYU does
have a history of winning a lot of football games.
They have a legacy.
Speaker 4: Program, and they were shunned for years not being allowed
to be in the power structure.
Speaker 5: They start when things start to slow down.
Speaker 2: There's not as many games this week, right, it's conference
championship week. There's not as much noise, there's not as
many distractions, and they're starting to evaluate.
Speaker 5: They're like, hmm, maybe I was wrong about BUYU all along.
They they are a good one the way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what they they're only losses to Texas
and when you look at that Texas Tech game, you
know their defense actually played.
Speaker 5: Gosh darn well.
Speaker 2: They were at Lubbock two. They were they were in
a violent Rockets environment. Now they're gonna get another chance
at it.
Speaker 4: Maybe we were wrong about by We're gonna discuss it
here on your Utah ESPN.
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always bring the hammler Brent Hammer Hammer Times show what's happening, bro.
Speaker 5: I had a horrible opicture.
Speaker 2: It's not good, but it is I believe intelligence.
Speaker 5: You think about that BYU.
Speaker 2: Texas Tech team, and you think about all of the
things that went wrong that went anti BYU, that really
led to that game being twenty nine to seven into
those spots that looked like an absolute man handling out.
It wasn't good for YU, but if you look the
way the defense played, it was better than I think
some people could bet.
Speaker 4: How about sounddown? Bring that sound down, Thunderson. We can
hear Brent brother.
Speaker 2: So BYU loses in that game and then they drop,
I think from the seventh spots to twelve spot. Right,
So they dropped the seven spots to the twelve spot
and then they've since one spot up. I think had
BYU found a way to score one more touchdown or
stop one more touchdown. I think they don't fall five spots.
I think they probably fall four. Instead, they still get
that one spot movement up, and we are no longer
talking about BIU being held out of the conference or
being held out of the playoffs, because now you're sitting
in a situation where, I mean, it's almost impossible for
YU to lose and still move a spot up into
that playoff spot. But I just was thinking about that yesterday, Like,
let's say Parker Kingston catches that point and let's say they.
Speaker 5: Score even a field.
Speaker 2: Well, let's say they go down and get a touchdown,
and let's say it's twenty nine to fourteen. At the
end of the game, I think you fall at minimum
four spots instead of five. You still get one more
spot left, and BYU sits at that ten spot. Miami
and Notre Dame are having a much more fun conversation
between twelve and eleven, and it just it just sucks.
Had the ball bounced one way differently in that game,
I think we would be talking about BYU being in
the playoff headed into this weekend, and now we're not
because of the way the things went down that weekend.
Speaker 4: I think the eye test deal, right, that's what everyone's
talking about, because it was a game day, it was
there was a lot of pomp and circumstances surrounding it,
and it failed. It flopped. It was not competitive. It
didn't look good, it didn't feel good. It was sloppy.
BYU was out manned out play, even though there were
a lot of like virtuous things that you could point
two silver linings, and the defense was tremendous, but the
offense and the special teams just weren't up to snuff.
And and so I get it, you know, I understand that.
And it could have gone even worse, like the other
component of all this, it could have been much worse.
Bear Morton was a little bit dinged up. He didn
get sacked four times. He had that stress reaction. He's
wearing that like brace. He sat out for a little
bit and now he's back, so he could be better,
or he could be about the same. Quite honestly, I
think that moodes well for BYU in this game, being
on a neutral field.
Speaker 5: Quite honestly, if you get after him as.
Speaker 4: You did, you're gonna have just as much efficiency and
efficacy and he made some dime throws.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that were all armed, no legs. It's hard to
do again. That's hard to do again. So and I
know Bo's defense is gonna be a little bit different.
But you know, going back to what happened in that game,
I understand I have empathy for the human nature, the
fallen state of men and their fallibility, right, and their
emotional attests were only as good as our anecdotes in
this life. And so once you've experienced something your eye tests,
you're like, well, I know this. I don't remember everything
about that game, but I remember how it made me feel.
Speaker 5: I remember how it made me feel.
Speaker 4: You know, it's not what they said, it's how they
made them feel, right, And it's not what they did,
it's how.
Speaker 5: They made me feel.
Speaker 2: And that's that's an indelible mark on my heart, on
my football spirit and my loins. You know, these football
Playoff Committee decision makers, that's how they feel about it.
And even when the only thing that can bring them
back to Homeostasius level set is they the noise has
to stop and they have to start going line on
them by line on it and comparing resume. There's a
reason why the colleed Football playf Comittee, ESPN, Fox, CBS Sports,
They've all decided not to put by U in a
visual side by side comparative resume ev ow they don't
want to do it because they're like when they do it,
like like, well shoot, thinkl matter we were we're kind
of wrong here. Well they don't remember, they don't want
to be They it's confirmation bias.
Speaker 5: It just is what it is. Like well, no, no, like,
and the.
Speaker 2: Objective data is going against their confirmation bias, and they
don't want to be called out on it. They don't
want the public propaganda hepe machine swaying them off of
their anecdotal confirmation biased feelings. And ESPN just so everyone knows,
ESPN has to be biased the way of the CFP committee.
They cannot have a lack of bias because they have
an exclusive deal with this. This is not just the
BCS and we're all just talking about it. ESPN is
in bed with the CFP. That is a deal that
is on paper. This is not a conspiracy. That's why
ESPN is the one that you're watching the show on
Tuesday nights. That's why nobody else has that show is
because ESPN has an exclusive deal with the CFP committee.
That's why ESPN has to say the things that they
have to say about YU. That's why they have to
leave them off that graphic because contractually they are obligated
to do what's in the best interest of the CFP,
not what's necessarily in the best interest of college fooble
as a whole, because they have that deal.
Speaker 5: Yes, indeed, so.
Speaker 4: They do not want the free market of free speech
as it relates to sports like commentary. They do not
want to be held accountable to the truth of the
matter because when you put the resume side by side,
it is it is inarguable yep. And that's why you're
seeing more and more people chime in on it, whether
it's a we'll compt it right. He's like, Hey, bways
getting screwed here RG three RG three, b y is
getting screwed here. Deve port and no ave portnite Provo David,
They're getting screwed.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel bamboozled. I feel flamoxed about this situation.
Speaker 5: I really do.
Speaker 2: I feel like like I'm just glad that finally, I mean,
even brett Ormark finally getting after it Killanne getting after it.
Speaker 5: BYU's social media.
Speaker 4: Department getting after it's right, Like they're all getting after it,
and we're seeing a little bit of sway, we're seeing
a little bit of rocking of the boat. So there's
a part of me that believes if BYU shows well
and this is like similar akin to what would happen
with SMU and Clemson, I could possibly maybe kind of
sort of see something happening there, right if they play
well at a neutral setting. Because there's less noise and
less distraction now and more objective minds are starting to
rule the day and rule the voice of college football.
I just hope that they hold the College Football Playoff
Committee to the fire a little bit more because you know,
there's more advocacy. There's more advocacy now, and there hasn't
been that many advocates for BYU in a long time.
There's been very few advocates that are willing to go
and defend Bring them Young, and it's sponsoring institution, period.
So guys, let me also welcome into the show AP
Andrew Peterson, Andrew, how the heck are you mat?
Speaker 5: How's Salt Lake City?
Speaker 1: It's a little bit less snowy up here in Salt
Lake than it was in Provo when I left. So
Salt Lake's not too bad, I I but I do
have a take on this conversation that you guys are having.
Speaker 5: Number One, I agree with Brett and and you I don't.
Speaker 1: I agree with Brett when he said that the money
is what's doing this to BYU, the deal that ESPN
has with college football playoffs with the SEC, I think
that's really what this is. But I hate to be
the guy that brings this up. But how does Brett
your Mark feel about Mark Harlan's advocacy for the Big
Twelve in there with BYU being so disrespected?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you wonder what Mark Harlan's messages to the committee
because he's supposedly the Big Twelve representative, right, And does
he feel still to this day that Utah is the
better team and it was stolen from them in Salt Lake,
and that Utah is the better team and they just
didn't show well enough to win. But they're the better team,
They're more talented, or you know all those things, right.
You know, if he feels that way, then what is
he going to say, Well, he's gonna say that.
Speaker 5: B YU they're a nice little program.
Speaker 2: They're a nice little team. They're a good little you know,
they're well coached, they're gritty, they're resilient. They're not the
best team to put into the College Football Playoff here. Yeah,
there's little to no advocacy on the College Football Playoff
Comittee for b YU.
Speaker 5: There just isn't.
Speaker 4: There's no one that's like, hey, you know, no, they
recruit well, they overachieve, or they have their recruiting rankings.
Maybe the talent at BOI is better than what the
recruiting rankings actually dictate because they're underrated, under ranked once
they commit to BYU, As Colonias of Talking pointed out,
as the data that we've accrued over the years has
pointed out, they're not going to pull up historical data
that says that BYU is the most underrated team in
college football and the ap Pole era or even over
the last decade.
Speaker 5: You need someone to do that.
Speaker 4: You need someone that's actually smart enough and I would
say has a high enough character to advocate and be ridiculed, okay,
interpersonally in a committee when you bring up factual data
that is against the anecdotal confirmation bias of a bunch
of fallible humans that are incentivized by money.
Speaker 5: That could be corrupt, right, that's the issue.
Speaker 4: I had this conversation with Brett Yormark at Big twelve meetings,
and I say, hey, why can't we have a combination
of algorithm, metric, BCS, computerized system that takes into account
all those data points that you want and wait it efficiently,
and then have a human element as well. Have the
human let you can wait it equally. Why can't we
at least do that? Why do we have to have
a committee of all humans that yeah, they're gonna pull
up some data, but they're not even willing to pull
up the data for BYU that's in the mix.
Speaker 5: They're not even willing to put it.
Speaker 2: On on the screen because they don't want the propaganda
out there and the movement towards BYU.
Speaker 5: They want everyone to be hush, hush, quite quiet on
the DL.
Speaker 4: These are the only teams that deserve to be in Oklahoma,
Notre Dame Alabama. The Brands well, they claimed to remember
and coming into the season they're like, oh, we need
a new metric.
Speaker 2: So they went out and they built this. It's similar
to ESPN Strength of Record, metric. It's not the same.
Apparently it's proprietary, and so that's why they won't release it.
But we know the real reason they won't release it
because if they did, then we would be able to
actually tell them they were doing something wrong. But basically,
they wanted a metric to be able to really prove
to everyone that the SEC had the best schedule. So
they went out and they got this strength of record metric.
Now ESPN has a very similar one. Is what we're
told it's not the same, but we're told it's very similar,
which is then hilarious because even this new metric that
we got still says the the agenda the committee is
pushing for is not necessarily accurate. So we did kind
of add analytics to it. But even if you add analytics.
Speaker 5: My mom used to say growing up, you can't fix stupid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even if you give them the answers to what
they're supposed to put down on the test, they can
still be dumb enough to remember what's right and what's wrong.
And what's hilarious to me is I feel like every
year the easy cop out is man the committee sucks.
Like we say that every year, regardless of how bad
it is, and again now we're seeing it out our
front door with BYU. I just wonder like, how long
does the committee remain as is? And I pitched this
yesterday on Bryson Bianucci. I said, maybe you have a mix.
Maybe you add media members and it's not all athletic
directors and it's not all media members. But I do
think there needs to be a different group of minds
in there that's not just people who all see the
world one way and who all frankly live in a
power to conference type of world.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I do think there needs to be some justine made.
Speaker 2: But what I think we should give the collegewall playoff
credit for is, in one year with a twelve team playoff,
we said, hey, that didn't work, and we changed it.
They didn't like the way that conference champions, whether or
not they were good enough, got a first round by
so in one year we changed it. And that gives
me hope to say, Look, is the committee made some
poor choices this year. Yeah, However, they do have systems
in place that allow them to change and update as
things go along.
Speaker 5: And you're not gonna have a perfect system right off
the bat.
Speaker 2: So maybe as this thing goes along, we get closer
to a perfect system that doesn't fix BYU situation right now,
but hopefully that's hope for the future.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Harlan was called to serve on the committee on November thirteenth,
the week essentially after BA you lost to Texas Tech.
Speaker 5: BYU has gone on a.
Speaker 4: Three game winning streak and destroyed TCU forty four to thirteen,
beat up on the Bearcats at Cincinnati twenty six fourteen,
and then had a slow first quarter but then dominated
the rest of the way forty one to twenty one,
and covered. They covered all three of these games. Good
teams win, great teams cover. They out kicked their coverage,
overachieved versus.
Speaker 5: Vegas too, they killed it.
Speaker 4: And by the way, BYU against the spread this season
they have been elite. They've been one of the best
teams in college football. They are ranked number six in
college football against the they are nine and three, nine
and three. You know else is really good against the spread?
Speaker 5: Texas Tech. They're eleven and one.
Speaker 4: Ohio States ten one and one, Utah States ten and two.
Shoutouts to Bronco mennenhawkh North Texas is ten and two
Vanderbilts nine two and one. Okay, so you're you're taking
all this into account and you're hoping that the advocacy
can push BYU's way and influence the committee in some way,
shape or form.
Speaker 5: Okay, uh.
Speaker 4: Check out the rest of our ESPN starting lineup. Spencer
Lynton join us at three oh five, Max Shadwick three
point thirty. We'll get into a ton of sound bites
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off with one of the advocates that's that's willing and
ready to put his name on the line. Three Robert Griffin, IID,
he states, and we'll listen to the saudio momentary. By
you should be in the college football Playoff regardless of
the result of the Big twelve championship game.
Speaker 5: Let's listen in.
Speaker 7: Do you think BYU has earned their spot into college
football Playoff?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 3: BYU has earned its spot in the college football playoff.
Speaker 5: For a number of reasons.
Speaker 3: One, they have an eleven to one record, all right,
and they made it to their conference championship game with
one loss. Any team in the Power for that makes
it to their conference championship game with one loss should
be in the college football playoff, period, regardless.
Speaker 5: Of the result. Thank you okay, one or less losses,
you're in yes period. So when I see.
Speaker 3: Right now that BYU has been ranked at number eleven
in the AP pole and they've been sitting there at
number eleven in the College Football Playoff rankings for weeks now,
despite the fact that they have less losses than teams
that are in front of them, Alabama being one of them.
And I know, hey, man, Alabama, Alabama's got the mystique.
Alabama's got a great team. They're ten and two. They
made it to the SEC Championship game. But guess what
if Alabama loses. If Alabama loses in the SEC Championship,
they have three losses, they shouldn't be in the cost
ball playoff.
Speaker 4: Boom boom baby, that's RG three. He also went off,
I sent you another clip.
Speaker 2: This is I believe from I think from yesterday on
his out of Pocket podcast, where he says, essentially stop
persecuting the Christians.
Speaker 5: I love it, man. A lot of EAU.
Speaker 4: Fans feel like this is just religious bigotry that has
extended throughout the last fifty years or even beyond that.
Speaker 2: Institutions of higher learning have never, like in the modern era,
have not necessarily been pro conservative religious value. We've gotten
rid of God in our in our schools, We've gotten
rid of the Bible.
Speaker 4: We don't even do the Pledge of Allegiance anymore. I
used to sing songs of patriotism in my elementary school
that did. That was done away with. Now America is
an evil nation, a horrible nation. We're being held accountable.
Speaker 2: For our sins of over a hundred, two hundred, three
hundred years ago.
Speaker 5: It is what it is. So uh, you're you're taking
all that into accounting. You're like, okay, well.
Speaker 4: Maybe RG three is onto something here with the with
the religious biggest we'd stop persecuting the Christians. The only
thing that you could counter it with is Notre Dames
in front of them, and they are a Catholic sponsored institution,
if I'm not mistaken. They have an houtocode as well. Yeah,
but that's more mainstreams Christian. It's it's no, it's a
we have two types of Christians. We have credle Christians
and then we.
Speaker 2: Have uh what would we call, you know, anthropomorphic Christians. Yeah,
anthropomorphic uh Christians is a you know, not trinitarian Christians,
but true uh godhead Christians.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Man, anyway, let's do you have that sound bite by
chance with Okay, let's go and play that as well.
Speaker 3: This is RG three in because they've won the games
on their schedule in a power for a conference stop
the persecution of the Christians. Man, come on, that's good,
b Y, you should be.
Speaker 5: In that his wife, yes, okay, yeah, she's like, that's good.
Speaker 2: Yes from Oh, I want to say, I'm not even
a guess because I don't want to be wrong. But
she's not from the United States. She ran track at
Baylor and that's actually how they met.
Speaker 5: That's awesome. Yeah, that's a.
Speaker 4: That's sweet that she's a host alongside of her wonderful
husband or G three.
Speaker 5: Anyway they they have. I wouldn't have guessed that one,
so I'm glad I didn't try. Yeah. Yeah, I'd rather
just not know than be wrong some European nations. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
I don't want to do that.
Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, okay, so let's let's take a brief time out.
Speaker 5: But that's one of the advocates right now.
Speaker 4: That's what I actually, you know what I wonder if
do we have time for uh the Will Compton commentary
Will Compton also go into bat for the BYU cougars.
This one has gotten some good traction on the social media.
Will Compton, he's got a really he's got a robust platform.
Speaker 5: He really does. Uh. He was on I believe Get.
Speaker 2: Up if I'm not mistaken yep, and uh, you know
it's a it's a it's a small snippet here. But
once again, like you have the these advocates coming out
of the woodwork, those those that want truth, that are objective,
that are not like corrupted by confirmation bias.
Speaker 5: What do they want? What are they willing to do? There?
Speaker 4: Willing to speak true? This is Will Compton. Do you
have that one?
Speaker 5: Ap? Okay, I got it. I just said it to you again.
Speaker 4: Via DM Will Compton breaking down BYU's unfair CFP scenario.
Speaker 5: This was yesterday on Get Up on ESPN.
Speaker 8: Sucks because that's another situation for BYU. Say BYU lost close,
like they're eleven to one, if they lost close to
Texas Tech, the only team they've lost to you this
season would be Texas Tech.
Speaker 5: Compared to Bama.
Speaker 8: They're in no matter what these other multiple loss teams.
It just shows it's like BYU is in a tough
spot because if they if they play a close game
like they're they're what, they're just out of the playoffs,
because that's.
Speaker 5: An there you go, that's that's Will Compton. Look. In
the modern era OK of.
Speaker 4: College football, there has never been a an eleven and
one team that has not been in the top ten ESPN,
Fox Sports, the Committee, they don't want you to know
that stat. They don't want that stat getting out. Nope,
they don't want anyone questioning them with that stat. Did
you know that there has never been an eleven to
one team in the college football playoff era that has
not been in the top ten. What makes this this uh,
this uh year different? Why is it the rout? Well,
you know they would know how to answer it. Hunter
Eurocheck is gonna do his whole six to.
Speaker 2: Seven oh my god, and then say something to the
fact of we have the deepest respect for Brigham Young
University as a program. And then they're gonna lean on
the eye test of well, they just weren't competitive versus
SECT guys. They were on the road versus the number
four team in the country.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but they just weren't.
Speaker 1: Good enough that they don't is located.
Speaker 5: They I don't even know if they do. They don't.
Speaker 4: It's like to Lake City probably, it's like the Cincinnati fense.
They don't even know what the acronym stands for. Yeah,
did you see that? They're going around asking the like
Cincinnati fans, like, what does by you stand for?
Speaker 2: They're like, I have no idea? Like, no, I had
no clue. I did just find out. I feel embarrassed
to say this, but I do feel like I should
be honest.
Speaker 5: With the people.
Speaker 2: I just found out what the acronym are the rock
stands for. I graduated from that university, by the way.
I just found out what the rock stands for last
week when I was at the game. So you know,
you know you think you're smarter than you are. Yeah,
I just learned what the rock stands for.
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, gracious.
Speaker 2: While we're in the business of outing people who don't
know acronyms, a'd me to the list.
Speaker 5: It's all right, hey, at.
Speaker 2: Least you know hey self deprecation, it's it's it's all
about staying humble, staying hungry.
Speaker 5: It's Kalani.
Speaker 4: We're a culture that tries to align with here at ESPN,
the fan, we we are a kalate culture as well.
Speaker 5: We stay humble, stay hungry, love and learn. Also we
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some recruiting. How about that?
Speaker 2: Uh, the poola twins have go slipped as we predicted.
As we projected on this show, it was flip season
h Kenny and Jared Puola or b Yu Cougar's you're
able to take a very talented set of brothers and
bring them to Provo Utah.
Speaker 4: Let's celebrate it. Let's talk about what they do for
this class. Coming up next, this is Cougar Sports on
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Speaker 5: Let's react.
Speaker 4: Look, the class of twenty twenty six for the BYU
Cougar football team was already a top twenty class. Phenomenal, right, beautiful.
Now they added Jaren and Kennon Pula. Now, just to
give you some feedback, they're both four stars. So you
added two more four stars to you're already robust list
of four stars prior to yesterday or prior to today
you have. I believe it was somewhere around eight eight
four stars and just added two more. Impressive work by
the coaching staff those that were on the ground level
recruiting loan peak. Jared and Kenna were originally committed to UCLA,
they de commit, they commit to Utah, and now they're
BYU Cougars. Six foot two and a half hundred and
eighty five pound wide receiver Jaron Pula.
Speaker 5: He's been tremendous.
Speaker 4: Ken and Pula six two one ninety five safety, defensive back.
He's also risen very high. He's a wide receiver defensive back.
They can play on both sides of the ball. I
don't think they signed with BYU unless they feel like
they can come in and make an impact immediately true
freshman year at BYU. Next Jeason, give me your thoughts
on this. Brett always bringing the hammer?
Speaker 2: Well, we actually had Ken and Pola on the show,
I want to say a month ago, and we did
the event down at Crumbull and we were at Crumble
and staying Crumble, staying hungry. I gotta say, like, this
doesn't come as a shock to me. I have some
family who goes to Long Peak and they're friends with
the Pola Twins, and they're like, yeah, I think he's
I think he's gonna flip.
Speaker 5: And the Pool Twins hadn't said that, but they could.
Speaker 2: My family could just tell from talking to him, like
they're probably gonna And then we see him wearing the
BYU glove and the state championship game, and then I
get a text from a family member today is literally
a picture of them setting up the BYU stuff, and
I'm like, holy cow. And we kind of knew this
was coming, or at least we thought it was, because
the rumor mill was pumping out that Ryder Lions was
trying to get these guys to come to BYU at
the time, they were committed to UCLA. So then they
decommit from UCLA, it's like, oh, hey, maybe they're coming.
Speaker 5: We actually didn't think they were at that point.
Speaker 2: Then they flip and commit to Utah and then not
too long ago December, so yeah, then like we find
out that they're now signing with BYU because they didn't
sign with Utah along with all the other Utah recruits
a couple days ago.
Speaker 5: This is incredible.
Speaker 2: It just goes to show all the work that the
guys in this recruiting class are doing to get other
guys to come here. We know Brock Harris has been
putting in work, brother Harrison, brother Lyons, they've been putting
in work to get guys to convert those of the
rest of the recruiting class to come to BYU. If
you if you have ever turned on ESPN, you saw
the one handed snag in the play in the playoffs.
Speaker 5: A couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be so much fun to have these guys
I again. You talk about it like they both are
athletic enough that like either one of them could play
both sides of the ball.
Speaker 4: We'll see what happens. And I'm with you, like, given
the amount of jumping around that.
Speaker 2: They did, they're not going somewhere unless they feel like
they're playing immediately and frankly, like you're losing Chase Roberts.
Speaker 5: So one or not one.
Speaker 2: Or not if not both of these guys is definitely
playing day one.
Speaker 5: You need to reload.
Speaker 2: At that position, especially because Chase is like your big
possession guy.
Speaker 8: Ye.
Speaker 2: Both these guys are pretty big guys as well as
being four star speed demon athletes who can do it all.
This is a massive I mean like, this is like
eating a cake and it's not even the icing on
top of the cake. This is like layering another cake
on top of the cake that you already had. This
is not an icing or cherry on top of this
is a whole other gift altogether. So to get the
pool of twins here on a Friday, incredible work from
this recruiting class.
Speaker 4: Andrew Peterson also had ties has ties with Loan Peak
and he was abreast of the situation. Didn't break any news,
let the kids drop their their switch commitment.
Speaker 5: But to ap you.
Speaker 4: Know these kids, well, you know the situation that they've
been in and their trajectory and journey to be while
you give me your eval of the situation.
Speaker 1: Honestly, Ben, I could not be happier. I love Rider Lions,
I love Brock Harris, I love Boo. But I've covered
the Pulas for the last two years as a high
school play by play announcer. I covered them at tim
View when they were committed to UCLA. I had them
for a game, the Lone Peak versus Rum Game. Great game,
by the way. This past year when they're committed to Utah.
I'm going to have to AI edit one of my
favorite play calls ever when I called Jared Pula a
future ute on a sixty seven yard touchdown. But I
have every time I watched them. I just wish that
they would be at BYU because they are the kind
of guys that, if they went to Utah, could burn BYU.
Speaker 5: I have never I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't remember a single drop from either one of
them in the two years that I've covered them. They're
great players. I'm sure they have one or two there,
but it's not off. They have shorthands, they can play
both sides of the ball. They can play special teams,
which is where I probably see the immediate impact coming in.
They could break into a too deep maybe next year
on on offense or defense somewhere. But I see them
as as coming in as immediate special teams contributors.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they're gonna they're gonna see some PT
next year special teams and rotation.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: You gotta get up to speed. You gotta come in
probably in January. You gotta typically if you're gonna play
as a true freshman, you gotta be a mid year.
You gotta be a midyear. So if you're not a
mid year, it's gonna be much more difficult, just gonna
be much more difficult. You may not be seeing PT
until mid mid season. Get into spring, get it, get
it abreast of the schematics and the playbook. Get up
to speed with your your height, weight speed. Uh, and
just you know, develop into a grown man at the
collegiate level.
Speaker 5: Then uh at once you're.
Speaker 4: Acclimated, then you get in inserted I think in uh
in fall camp at any rate. Big news for Brigham
right now twenty one commits. Their overall rank is twenty first,
but I imagine that could be a here shortly. We'll
see how it plays out. But right now, the ranked
twenty first in the country and their recruiting class. Rider
Lions is the headliner, Bob Mulitalo, also a baller, offensive line,
Brodcrris tight end, Adam Bywater linebacker, Ty Getchee tight end,
Jaron Pula, wide receiver, Lopetti Mawala edge, Kennan Pula wide receiver,
defensive back, Jacks Tanner offensive line, Terrence Serion athlete, wide receiver,
Braxton Lindsay linebacker, Kawei Akana. He's gonna probably play the
defense side of the ball, but he's also an athlete.
Legend Glasker wide receiver, Matthew Mason safety, Graham Livingston wide receiver,
Parker Ord tight end, sep and Iah Latini athlete, Antonio
Johnson cornerback, Neomiah Colgone defensive line, Justice Braithwait cornerback, and
Devon Eka running back. Who's your favorite in this class
and why, gentlemen, who's your favorite recruit?
Speaker 5: Who's your favorite commit and why? Brett Hammer.
Speaker 2: I think the fair answer is that no one should
be allowed to say Ryder Lions because like, that's quarterback.
Speaker 5: That's the easy.
Speaker 4: Look quarter at the quarterback factory at QBU. It's too
low hanging of fruit. Yeah, everybody loves rder Lions Way
to go.
Speaker 2: You have a unique opinion for and I guess I'm
gonna take the other top guy.
Speaker 5: So it's not the most unique opinions, but I love
Brock Harris.
Speaker 2: It is. I've been missing that Isaac Rex in my life.
And look, I love Carson Ryan, but we're not gonna
get to see him again likely, so you.
Speaker 4: Start going towards the future. Yeah, he's gonna be that
next guy.
Speaker 2: We've been missing the great tight end at b YU
ever since we lost Isaac Rex, and I think Brock
Harris has every possibility in the world to be that.
He's a speed demon for a guy who plays wide receiver.
We know he's a guy who again is recruiting a
lot of these other guys to come to BYU. I
think Brock Harris is just gonna be a BYU guy.
I think he'll be similar to what Isaac Rex was
to this team, where he's just a heart. He's he's
a heart of the offense. I'm really excited for what
Brock Harris is gonna.
Speaker 5: Bring to BYU.
Speaker 4: Love that breakdown, AP, who's your favorite and why?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna go to the other loan Peak Night.
I'm not biased at all. World class high school, by
the way, go on Peak.
Speaker 5: Bob Mouli Talo. But and here's my answer.
Speaker 1: Because look at the offensive lineman that BYU has gotten
over the past two years.
Speaker 5: You've got Bob Mulaitalo.
Speaker 1: You've got Jacks Tanner, You've got Austin pay from last year.
You've got the kid who who committed to by you
flipped Oregon and then came back. His name's slipping my mind,
and he was a four star kid. BYU's building an
extremely high level offensive line between those. In a couple
of years, you're gonna see an offensive line with almost
all four stars. You're gonna have wide receivers who are
almost all four stars, with Cody Hagen, the pulas Le
Mason Waller. Like BYU is getting stacked that You've got
the tight ends several four stars there, You've got ryder lines,
You've got McKay Madison four star. BYU's recruiting has elevated
to an unbelievable level.
Speaker 5: But Bot is probably my favorite. Bot's a guy.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, I think he should be a favorite
on this list. There's no doubt about it why you
win games versus power for opponents in the trenches. The
reason why BYU during independence was not able to necessarily
get over the hump, and to a certain degree, you
can even say, like even during the Mountain West era
was not able to get over the hump is because
you weren't dominant on both sides of the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 5: Excuse me, but.
Speaker 4: Now you can recruit maybe a little bit higher level
guy defensively and offensively.
Speaker 5: You have more resources.
Speaker 4: You're you've really invested in the strength and conditioning, in
the in the development and nutritional piece. So you, guys,
you look at Bot and he's a guy that can
compete for playing time immediately as a true freshman. He
was compared by Kalani to Penn Sewell, an Outland Trophy
winner and a first round pick, you know, second round
pick Kingsley Sue Abatiya, Yep, you know what I mean. So,
like that's what you're getting in Bot, and so you
expect him to come in right away and compete at
guard or tackle because you do have some guys graduating,
guys moving on to the NFL.
Speaker 5: So I think that's a great take. I love it.
Speaker 4: Brock Carris to me, is is Dennis Bitta. I'm more
refined Dennis Bitta. That's an awesome take. As far as
who I'm most excited about, one of the things is
a defensive player that I love is to see dogs
up front, dogs on the defensive line. And I have
been extremely impressed with Lopetti Moala, not only on our show.
I don't know if you guys remember that interview with him,
but he.
Speaker 5: Was like I was blown away.
Speaker 4: I was like, this kid is everything that I want
my future sons to be. The way that he articulates
a message, the way he plays on the football field.
He is everything that you want as a BYU Cougar
football ambassador and then a dog.
Speaker 5: That's the dichotomy.
Speaker 4: If you don't realize, Okay, people, the traditional BYU fan
does not realize the difficulty of having a dichotomy of personality,
a split personality of off the field, you're you're you're
righteous and true and lovely and kind, and you abide
by the principles and ordinances of the Gospel. You have
a smile on your face, you know, and you're just
you're just christ Like. And then when you step on
the field to be a ravenous, murderous, vile not vile, you.
Speaker 5: Know, but like you gotta be a dog. You gotta
get after it. Like it is very hard.
Speaker 4: Not ever can do that because traditional dogs, Okay, when
they get off the field, they're a bit neandrotholic, you know.
Speaker 5: Sometimes they they they they're attracted.
Speaker 2: To the the uh sometimes the laseivious lifestyle. Okay, they're
more likely to get into otter code violations are you
talking about.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, like they like to have fun. They
go there a lot of testosterone. They're getting after it
with the ladies. You know, they're they're they're.
Speaker 2: Very active in the community that way. I'm just saying,
like I'm I'm being real with you, guys. If you
hate it, I'm just trying to be real with you.
Speaker 5: Like and so.
Speaker 4: You you want the the dichotomy, right, but you want
to you want to put them on a leash. You
want to structure them a little bit. You wanna you
gotta mentor them a little bit more. You gotta babysit
them a little bit more.
Speaker 5: You gotta.
Speaker 2: But that's what you want to tell you. Now, I'm
not saying little Petty's that guy. But I'm look, I
played with lad I played with guys that were dogs.
Okay that you had to put a leashaw on a
little bit? Uh Maniah brown dog dog. He came from Nebraska.
He was hanging out with my boy Richie Cognito. Do
you know anything about Richie?
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like I mean he probably had to put a leash
on Ritchie, you know what I mean, because he wasn't
able to you know, he was He's like, I could
do that?
Speaker 5: Is you crazy? You know what I mean? Uh?
Speaker 2: Vic Soto he gets to b Yu like I mean
that DU's a dog. He was a tight end and then.
Speaker 4: He converted a d n uh defensive defensive linear in
the in the NFL. But he got into some mischief
at BYU. A lot of Like I've had a lot
of these guys and come through, and so you want
to recruit the dog, but you want to put a
leash on that dog.
Speaker 5: Once they get the provo. Does that make sense?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 5: And I think Moala's that guy. He does.
Speaker 4: He's got the true dichotomy of personality that you want
and the physical nature to be that beast. Kontu ton
of Us is that guy. Keanu's perfect off field, and
then you get him on the field and he's just
ridiculously aggressive and violent, right and then the play stops,
he's like, yeah, let me help you out, but during
the whistle he wants to destroy you.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So anyway, I'm I'm all in on Mowana. That's who
I'm I'm really engaged in now.
Speaker 5: I hope. I don't know if he's going on a mission. First,
I can't remember what he told.
Speaker 2: Us on on our our show, But like, I love Mowana, Vic,
I know you want to step up to the mic here,
you bet?
Speaker 5: What do you got, Vic? Who you most excited about?
Speaker 9: And why I'm going with Braxton Lindsay. I like that, Yes,
ever since I saw his tape in the summer, the
kid is just not only is he six three two
twenty twenty five, he's an athlete.
Speaker 4: I mean he has a lot of offensive Ye film him,
he was like tight end slot wide receiver.
Speaker 5: He's ridiculous.
Speaker 4: He kind of reminds me of a if you pull
up Spencer Hadley film from Connelle Washington. Spencer played in
the NFL was one of our best linebackers. In the
modern era, part of that LBU pipeline to the NFL.
Speaker 2: He reminds of Spencer HADLEYU. Spencer Hadley played a ton
of offense. It was a baller on offense.
Speaker 9: Continued anyway, on defense. I just loved his tenacity. He
was always around around the ball and you could see
his instincts were incredible. You could see he anticipated really well.
He seemed to be there before the ball got there.
And so you know, he watches tape. He's probably really
good at watching tape. So anyway, I always thought of
who could replace Jack Kelly, you know, with his speed,
just his ability, and I just like Braxton.
Speaker 5: I think that he might be a kid that can
come in and play right.
Speaker 4: Away down SEC offers to come to BUYU Oklahoma love
and that's what.
Speaker 9: That's why I loved it, because Oklahoma just wanted him badly,
and BYU just took him.
Speaker 5: We didn't.
Speaker 2: We're not stealing a college football playoff spot. We're stealing recruits. Yes, yeah, baby,
that's what we do.
Speaker 4: Steal all within the the laws of the NCAA, the
all fair game, not infringing on any sort of uh,
any sort of by laws.
Speaker 9: But I'm really loving the alignment. By the way, the
last couple of years. Jack Stanner, Oh my god, and
the kid the center from Bishop Gorman that.
Speaker 5: Was Ali Colon. I love him right.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, A LII Colony of Olu is nice, very nice,
very nice.
Speaker 5: Indeed, amen to that, Jack Stanner.
Speaker 4: This this recruiting class as well as Bob Mulatalo in
last recruiting class in twenty twenty five, you mentioned Ali
Colonia of Colonia Valu.
Speaker 5: That was a really nice pickup.
Speaker 4: Andrew Williams also a very nice pickup out of Kirksville, Missouri,
Latu final off extacle. He was a Stanford commit. He
decommits from Stanford. He comes with Koleepi his brother to
b Yu that was a really really nice uh switch up.
Speaker 2: And Austin pay that the legacy player four star offensive tackle.
Speaker 5: Loved that. Look, that's where games are one of laws.
Speaker 2: And then if you go over to the defensive side
of the ball, remember Noose is loose Nucy Tomway Payum
in the twenty twenty five class.
Speaker 5: Noocy, technically, I think is the highest.
Speaker 4: Rated guy that committed to be you in that class. Loose,
we need to falling out as a truefreshman.
Speaker 9: We need to send Stanford some Crumbled cookies and say
thank you for those young kids that we've gotten that
are playing.
Speaker 5: Right J Martin, Yeah, thanks for that.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, well take them, take all your cardinals, thank you. Yeah,
we can send them some state Crumble stay hungry motivation,
uh with a delicious cookie. Speaking of that, let's since
we since we talked Crumble. Dave Portnoy out in New
York City apparently stop by one of the many Crumbles
I believe their own. I think most of them are
owned and operated by Mike Wilson and Lisa Wilks.
Speaker 5: I's gonna say I think Zach Zach probably owns them.
Speaker 2: Two. I texted Mike and I was like, bro, we
got we got Dave Fortnoy and Crumble.
Speaker 5: City so awesome.
Speaker 4: Anyways, let's play that sound Dave Portnoy does the one
byte test.
Speaker 5: He typically does pizza. Now he's doing cookies. Oh okay,
real quick in New York City.
Speaker 7: Bonus Crumble review five fifty for a cookie. Now I
know how we afforded Klawonnie Boys Big Game tomorrow night.
I already bet him BYU win the NAT He's sixty
to one. Now, should BYU be in the playoffs regardless
of how they do against Texas Tech tomorrow.
Speaker 5: One hundred percent, billion percent. I won't even debate it.
Speaker 7: Anybody from no name who looks in the eyeby like
we deserve it is a fraud, a liar.
Speaker 5: And that's just shows what a Notre Dame person's all about.
Speaker 7: BYU, they have two better wins on their entire schedule
than Notre Dame. They have half the amount of losses.
They played the toughest schedule by every metric possible. BYU
should be in the playoffs regardless of what happens.
Speaker 5: The dumbest thing in the history of the world. Fine,
you want to.
Speaker 7: Throw stuff at us, Here's what we do at BYU.
Here's what Provo Dave does.
Speaker 5: We eat. We eat sugar, We eat Crumble cookies. We
pay five bucks for it. We support the cause. BYU,
they're gonna take out Ohio State. How about that one bite?
Everyone knows rules Crumble cookies.
Speaker 7: Shout out Kilani, he's back lifetime contract. Penn State Craft,
the guy Kraft. He's like, Hey, Michigan sore losers and
cheaters and losers, Buddy, you got the last recruiting class
in the country.
Speaker 2: I shut your mouth.
Speaker 7: Crumble cookie, one bite.
Speaker 5: Everybody knows the rules. Nine to eight.
Speaker 7: Crumble Cookie not biased at all, Dave, let's take down Tech.
By the way, if Texas Tech had an ounce of class,
they may actually like forfeit because.
Speaker 5: They're in and they shouldn't want they should help the
Big twelve. I don't care.
Speaker 7: We're gonna go beat him anyways, Texas uh b Yu
crumbled Cookie.
Speaker 5: Klan stays that's review. He literally takes like two seconds.
Speaker 2: It's on the palette on the tongue's like nine eight
nine eight non biased, and he goes on furthermore, if
Texas Tech had an ounce of class.
Speaker 5: Forfeit, their classless. If they win the game tomorrow, it
is love.
Speaker 4: Know that Joey McGuire has been one of the most
vocal advocates for speaking of advocacy like Joey McGuire, head
coach of the Texas Tech Red Raiders.
Speaker 5: Has gone out of his way.
Speaker 4: To to just just shower b Yu and Kilate with
love and appreciation and argue on their behalf.
Speaker 5: He got his self a contract extension.
Speaker 4: Congratulations, He's got a robust and l I offering through
his his Black Gold funders, his oil money.
Speaker 5: Shout out to Joey maguire man, wish him well.
Speaker 4: I did hold it against him that he denied that
spitgate occurred or did not occur at at Lavelle Edwards Stadium.
Speaker 5: But you know he's advocating for his players in the past.
In the past, you're forgiven.
Speaker 2: I believe in grace, Yes, I believe in forgiveness, the
laws of justice and mercy combined, and people can change,
people can repent, people can be transformed through the blood
of Christ.
Speaker 4: We're gonna talk with Dewey Gray by the way at
four point thirty. Baby, he's got how I do have
to say?
Speaker 2: I have to give my wife a shout out because
she asked the same thing that Provo Dave said.
Speaker 5: My wife goes, look if if the.
Speaker 2: Big Twelve's only gonna get one team in with Texas
Tech and the Texas Tech is a Big twelve advocate,
She's like, why doesn't Texas Tech just lose on Saturday
so that b Yu can get in.
Speaker 5: She's like, will they do that?
Speaker 2: I was like, Babe, I love you and that's genius
and I hope that it happen.
Speaker 5: And that's a great take. I don't think it's happening.
Speaker 2: But you know what, if texasak has class, they'll forfeit
the game tomorrow and let bou win.
Speaker 5: Just if they have class.
Speaker 4: It is what if they have class for noises, if
you got an ounce of class, guys, h tis the
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