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<v Speaker 1>Smitty Liven Studio.

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<v Speaker 2>Tim McMahon's gonna roll by today NBA Daily Assist style,

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<v Speaker 2>back to college football, Kevin Reynolds, Sam Bruckhaus will stop

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<v Speaker 2>buying to do some NFL. Then we'll get you ready

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<v Speaker 2>for a big RSL match tonight. As the playoffs are here,

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<v Speaker 2>fall soccer is here, so.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna bring in Brian Dunsa coming up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But my guy, Richard Smith on a Tuesday, even though

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<v Speaker 2>it's a Tuesday, I had a lovely weekend in Park

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<v Speaker 2>City at a wedding. It was a good time. Saw

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<v Speaker 2>some old friends. I hadn't seen it quite some time.

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<v Speaker 2>What what kept you busy this weekend?

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<v Speaker 1>Smitty?

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<v Speaker 3>See Spence, We we had divergent weekends going on. I

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<v Speaker 3>actually went to u LA to see an old friend

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<v Speaker 3>of ours, an old NBA colleague of ours down in La,

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<v Speaker 3>and I got to uh, I got to take a

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<v Speaker 3>moment out of the visit with him to go to

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<v Speaker 3>Game two Saturday night, and right here live on the

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<v Speaker 3>radio that people can't see, I'm presenting Spence with his

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<v Speaker 3>own special world ball.

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<v Speaker 1>What oh wow video? Are you serious?

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<v Speaker 3>Because because that's the kind of guy I am, you

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<v Speaker 3>are a good guy. See that I appreciate this. How

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<v Speaker 3>about that? We found that? And I said, you got

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<v Speaker 3>to be kidding me. I said, I know exactly who

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<v Speaker 3>would appreciate something like this with an Otanian judge pictures

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<v Speaker 3>on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Ball, I had a decent curve back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a little curve.

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<v Speaker 3>See that that that goes with the line Spence. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>the older I get, the better I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh for sure. Yeah, I'm learning that now in my forties.

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<v Speaker 2>And I should probably watch him tape to remind me

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<v Speaker 2>of exactly who I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, hey, to your left, I put a little holder there.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh sweet, the little thing you put the you put

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<v Speaker 3>the ball on, and uh, thank you bow to it

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<v Speaker 3>every time you walk by.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the real question.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty year anniversary of the greatest comeback in sports history

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<v Speaker 2>that I know, can my Yanks get a little Bosox

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<v Speaker 2>manage I can try to come back from the trio?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, anybody who remembers that, you know back in four

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<v Speaker 3>between the Red Sox and Yankees and the a l

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<v Speaker 3>Cs the year before it was Aaron Boone who had

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<v Speaker 3>the walk off home running. I know this is a

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<v Speaker 3>family show and and uh, and that and that was

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<v Speaker 3>off Tim Wakefield, the great Red Sox pitcher, rest in peace.

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<v Speaker 4>And and uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the next year they're playing again in the

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<v Speaker 3>ALCS and the Red Sox were down the ninth inning,

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<v Speaker 3>down a run, and uh, the greatest reliever in history

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<v Speaker 3>is on the mount of the Yankees. It's all over.

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<v Speaker 3>This is this is a four game sweep. You gotta

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<v Speaker 3>be kidding me. And and then Kevin Molar, who has

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<v Speaker 3>made a living since then, off his rant before the game,

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<v Speaker 3>walking around anybody who would listen, and they got him

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<v Speaker 3>on camera right saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Saying, don't let us don't let us go tight.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go let us win tonight because then we got

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<v Speaker 3>p D tomorrow, and then we got Shill in game six,

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<v Speaker 3>and then anything can happen in game seven, so they

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<v Speaker 3>better not let us win tonight. And then he's the

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<v Speaker 3>one who drew the walk in the bottom of the

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<v Speaker 3>ninth and Dave Roberts came in and ran for him

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<v Speaker 3>and stole second and blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, Yankees could.

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<v Speaker 3>Do something, you know, And they're at home right just

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<v Speaker 3>like the Red Sox were, so they have a chance

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<v Speaker 3>to do something, and you know, maybe try and claw

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<v Speaker 3>their way back in. But tell you what, the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 3>seemed to be just in one of those grooves that

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<v Speaker 3>you can get in in any kind of a playoff series,

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<v Speaker 3>in any sport, where all of a sudden you can't

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<v Speaker 3>plan it, and you can't you can't map it out,

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<v Speaker 3>but all of a sudden, things just start falling your way,

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<v Speaker 3>one thing after another, and it starts snowballing, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to wit the Freddie Freeman, I don't know, is he

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<v Speaker 3>gonna play? Is he not gonna play? He's got a

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<v Speaker 3>bum ankle, I don't know. Oh, home run, home run,

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<v Speaker 3>home run. Like you know, that's the kind of stuff

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<v Speaker 3>that you can't plan for and you can't make it up,

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<v Speaker 3>and that you that you're just in the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>right now for the Yankees and the Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's funny because as I'm watching the playoffs, I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like the Yankees had a far superior roster as

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<v Speaker 2>they were making their way through, and now I feel

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<v Speaker 2>the same way about the Dodgers juxtaposed to the Yankee lineup,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's no oxygen, there's no break for the Yankee

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<v Speaker 2>pitchers because even some of their you know, the batters,

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the lineup. One just won the

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<v Speaker 2>MVP of the Conference champions.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when they won the Pennant.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, so I thought the Yankees had a better

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<v Speaker 2>starting pitching, but clearly the Dodgers top to bottom have

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<v Speaker 2>a much better lineup and all the momentums on their side.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think the Yankees have better pitching. They are

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<v Speaker 3>lined up better too, but again, look, it's one swing

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<v Speaker 3>in Game one right there. The Yankees are a pitch

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<v Speaker 3>away from winning Game one, and the series will still

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<v Speaker 3>have a different tone if Freeman doesn't connect on that.

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<v Speaker 3>And and but that that's what happens in a series, right,

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<v Speaker 3>one play, one one swing, one missed ground ball, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>one error here. I mean, how about the two plays

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<v Speaker 3>at the plate?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, last night, like chi Oscar, that throw was right on,

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<v Speaker 2>but like how close with both of those?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they were, it was it was an inch

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<v Speaker 3>or two, Like you can't tell in a replay the

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<v Speaker 3>guy was safer out. I mean, it's it's both of

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<v Speaker 3>those and and but that's what makes baseball, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so exciting, especially this time of year.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, Otani's banged up, and they like don't

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<v Speaker 1>need them it's ridiculous. Yeah, that's right, all right, smitty.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh fun night last night with so many things going on,

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<v Speaker 2>So flipping back and forth between Monday Night Football World Series,

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<v Speaker 2>Utah Hockey Club, and then I get a text saying,

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<v Speaker 2>did you see what just happened to Taylor? So I

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<v Speaker 2>switch over in time for the replay, which I did

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<v Speaker 2>not need to see. I don't like, like the Kevin

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<v Speaker 2>ware Kid Louisville injury back in March madness.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I thought of? I thought of Joe Thysen.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Thaisman, Paul George, Gordon Hayward, right like whenever these

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<v Speaker 2>things happened, I don't enjoy watching it. So Taylor Hendrix,

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<v Speaker 2>who according to people that I talked to over there,

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<v Speaker 2>worked his tail off all summer, you know, got his

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<v Speaker 2>body in better shape. He looked bigger, he looked stronger,

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<v Speaker 2>was off to a pretty solid start to the season,

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<v Speaker 2>some good defensive minutes on John Morant opening night. He

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<v Speaker 2>played Luca pretty well last night in a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>occasions as well, as you referenced. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor is ever going to be a guy that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to drop forty on you. I'm not sure he's ever

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be like a twenty point a night guy. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he has to because of his measurables, his

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<v Speaker 2>ability to guard, rebound, and also finish at the rim.

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<v Speaker 2>But what does this mean now? As far as the

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<v Speaker 2>what's next for Taylor? As Will mentioned last night, the

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<v Speaker 2>development obviously is on hold.

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<v Speaker 1>It sucks, it really does.

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<v Speaker 2>But your thoughts on young Taylor Hendricks probably being out

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<v Speaker 2>for the year.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Yeah, it's devastating injury, and the the freakish part

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<v Speaker 3>about it spendses all these injuries that you see that happened,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's football, whether it's on an NBA court, someone

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, sliding into a base in baseball and

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<v Speaker 3>jamming their leg whatever it is. This thing happened right

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<v Speaker 3>in plain view of everybody, with nobody around him. He

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<v Speaker 3>was just running down the court and went to stop

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<v Speaker 3>and his leg just completely gave out on him. Just

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<v Speaker 3>a freak accident. He'll rehab, He'll get back. Uh. The

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<v Speaker 3>Jazz I think will be super ultra conservative in his rehab.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like they need him back for any kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a playoff push in the spring. It's not like

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<v Speaker 3>they're depending on him, uh to to come and save

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<v Speaker 3>the day in terms of their season or what they

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<v Speaker 3>their plans are currently with this, with this roster. So

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<v Speaker 3>they're gonna let him do the rehab he needs to.

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<v Speaker 3>They're gonna rely on the doctors who are involved. They're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna set the path. They're gonna set the schedule of

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<v Speaker 3>what he has to do, surgery wise, rehab wise, getting

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<v Speaker 3>back to playing condition, ultimately all that stuff. They're not

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<v Speaker 3>gonna rush it. They want to make sure he's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>He's only twenty years olds Bence, so they they realize

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<v Speaker 3>he's got his full career ahead of him, so they're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna do everything they can to make sure that he's

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<v Speaker 3>okay physically, that he's okay emotionally, which is a big

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<v Speaker 3>part that a lot of people don't take into account

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<v Speaker 3>with these things. He's a young guy who's never been

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<v Speaker 3>hurt before. Now he has a devastating injury early on

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<v Speaker 3>in his professional career that in your mind you can't

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<v Speaker 3>help but start thinking, oh am, I am I ever

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be as good as I thought I could be,

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<v Speaker 3>or as I even was at the moment that this happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this gonna set me back somehow? Is this gonna be.

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<v Speaker 3>Am I only gonna be eighty percent of what I

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<v Speaker 3>was before this happened. Am I gonna get back to

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<v Speaker 3>being better two years from now? All those things play

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<v Speaker 3>in your mind as a young man, And so that

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<v Speaker 3>that'll be one of the things that their staff with

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<v Speaker 3>Ron Kimmins, who's their their psychological player rep within the group,

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna try and help him on the mental side

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure that he's okay during the rehab process.

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<v Speaker 3>And look, Speth's just because he can't play doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 3>he won't be working on his body. He'll be working

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<v Speaker 3>on his upper body. He'll be working on that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of conditioning. That'll give him time to add a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit more weight, to add some more strength, and to

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<v Speaker 3>do some of those kinds of things to along with

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<v Speaker 3>his rehab of his leg. To make sure that he's

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<v Speaker 3>he's okay, whether that's twelve months from now or fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>months from now, whatever it is, and try and get

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<v Speaker 3>him back on the floor when it makes sense for

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<v Speaker 3>him and when it makes sense for the organization.

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<v Speaker 2>And excuse me, I don't want to be over dramatic here,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't want to jump to any conclusions, but

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<v Speaker 2>this is not a sprained ankle, This is not a

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<v Speaker 2>jammed wrist.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a serious injury.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and Taylor's a really, really good athlete, so he

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<v Speaker 2>relies on his verticality and his speed side decide if

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<v Speaker 2>he's ever going to be an elite defender. He's got

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<v Speaker 2>to move laterally. So look the fact that and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the staff down there obviously a great reputation for caring

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<v Speaker 2>for their players, and the fact that he's twenty is

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<v Speaker 2>a good sign for long term recovery. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>an injury like Marquise Chris had it and that essentially

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<v Speaker 2>kind of knocked him out of the league. Like we

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<v Speaker 2>have seen, this injury essentially change the scope of careers

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<v Speaker 1>So give me your thoughts on Jazz fans.

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<v Speaker 2>The hope that we do see Taylor back at peak

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, he's gonna everybody's Every individual is different. They

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>They all approach it supposedly the same way. Some guys,

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<v Speaker 3>on what they're supposed to do along in the process.

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<v Speaker 3>Some guys are more patient than others.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Some guys adhere to the strict rules of what they're

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<v Speaker 3>And and again Spence, not just the physical part, but

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<v Speaker 3>both the physical and the and the mental side of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And and then then you just have to wait and

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<v Speaker 3>uh the doctors say you're ready to go, Oh, you're

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<v Speaker 3>just has a mental block about doing something because they're

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<v Speaker 3>afraid it's gonna happen again. And and that's that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's gonna be part of it for him is a

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<v Speaker 3>maturing process as he is a young man, not only

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<v Speaker 3>but as he comes back, how can he get his

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to at some point compete at the

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<v Speaker 3>thing that's gonna be for him, and and that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>One more thing on this and then we'll move on.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we were very spoiled by two of the

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<v Speaker 2>at their apex with John carl And I'm wondering if

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<v Speaker 2>you could provide some insight because I was in I

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<v Speaker 2>intentionally went back to watch Will last night and then

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<v Speaker 1>It sounded I couldn't see it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was only listening. It sounded like they were crying.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you go back and watch Will, he was

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<v Speaker 2>holding back emotion. So as far as the uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the the effect that it has on his teammates, as

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<v Speaker 2>Kiante said, his brothers who he works shoulder by shoulder,

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<v Speaker 2>and and the effect that it could have kind of

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<v Speaker 2>on the rest of the group. What's the best way

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of try to traverse that space.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, again, that that's going to be a group effort

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<v Speaker 3>and and uh, their their mental preparation, UH is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be key. How they communicate with each other, how

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<v Speaker 4>It's not just Taylor.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, you know that that's a whole separate thing

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<v Speaker 3>that that that they'll be dealing with with him and

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<v Speaker 3>and giving him the priority of their of their efforts

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<v Speaker 3>and their their knowledge. But at the same time, you've

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<v Speaker 3>got a whole group of guys who witnessed it, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're now thinking, in the back of their minds, oh

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<v Speaker 3>am I the next guy, Am I gonna is something

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<v Speaker 3>weird gonna happen uh to me? And so the fragility

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<v Speaker 3>of the group, the mindset of of how they approach

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<v Speaker 3>their their task is UH is always interesting because you

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<v Speaker 3>really need everybody focused together, but you need people around you,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's coaches, whether it's the support staff, to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to help in terms of coaching them through the

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<v Speaker 3>mental part of being able to deal with it. Not

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<v Speaker 3>just that Taylor's not here, he's not with us where

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<v Speaker 3>we we can't count on him to help us. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>we've got to be able to move forward with our group,

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<v Speaker 3>but we also have to do so in a way

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<v Speaker 3>that that where we can perform the way that we

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<v Speaker 3>uh that we want to, and sometimes the mental part

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<v Speaker 3>holds you back. And so that's gonna be it's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be interesting to see how they respond as a group. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>when you're in the middle of the game, guys are playing,

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<v Speaker 3>Guys aren't thinking about that stuff, but all the stuff

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<v Speaker 3>outside of the game. When you're on the road or

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<v Speaker 3>the locker room before practice or after a game or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>wander through those things, and you have to have the

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<v Speaker 3>people around you as a group to support you, to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that you're all working on the same level

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<v Speaker 3>and all working in the same direction, to try and

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<v Speaker 2>So rotationally, what this does is really open up about

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<v Speaker 2>thirty minutes a night. So Taylor played twenty nine against

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<v Speaker 2>the Grizzlies. Against the Warriors, he played twenty five, and

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<v Speaker 2>then last night twenty one, but then he left the game,

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<v Speaker 2>So about twenty seven twenty eight minutes a night, probably

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<v Speaker 2>it opens up. So if we go off of what

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<v Speaker 2>they've been saying, it's development youth. You know, we want

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<v Speaker 2>to learn what we have with the young players. And

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<v Speaker 2>would you look at what Will has at his disposal.

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<v Speaker 2>He could bring in John Collins and that would be

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty big front court with Walker, John and Lowry.

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<v Speaker 2>about you know, twenty seven twenty eight minutes, now open up.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think rotationally we see.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well you just named all the options are going

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<v Speaker 3>to have and I think it's probably going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a rotating door depending on the matchups from night to night,

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<v Speaker 3>the teams are playing, who the who the opponent is,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they could go smallish with Sensible as a three.

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<v Speaker 3>They could go bigger with Philipowski, you know, and move

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<v Speaker 3>him and marking in around, depending on again, on who

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<v Speaker 3>they're playing on any given night, like for example, tonight

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<v Speaker 3>a set lineup.

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<v Speaker 4>They have a starting five who are here early in

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<v Speaker 4>the season.

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<v Speaker 3>It's only been the handful of games, but there they're

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<v Speaker 3>guys are playing thirty four thirty six minutes a night,

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<v Speaker 3>so they're they got a regular group that's playing and

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<v Speaker 3>a group that's set to try and win this year,

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<v Speaker 3>to try and get something accomplished for them, So they're

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<v Speaker 3>a group that's that's gonna come in, you know, with

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<v Speaker 3>their own agenda. So every night the Jazz are gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be facing a different team that has a different approach

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<v Speaker 3>based on where they're at in their team development situation,

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<v Speaker 3>whether they're competing for playoffs, whether they're competing for a championship,

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<v Speaker 3>whether they're just trying to get in the playoffs, whether

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<v Speaker 3>a developmental team like the Jazz are, say like Portland

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<v Speaker 3>is or something like that. So it's gonna it's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be a rotating door. I think it's gonna be something

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<v Speaker 3>where they're gonna be giving different guys different looks with

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<v Speaker 3>different groups on the floor and to see who works

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<v Speaker 3>well with each other. I don't think it changes a

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<v Speaker 3>lot spence in terms of the approach they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>take as the season goes along. In terms of rotation,

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're just going to be trying to find

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<v Speaker 3>out who we got, who plays well with who what

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<v Speaker 3>makes sense on any given night, And it may be

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<v Speaker 3>different guys. It may be sensible could play one night

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<v Speaker 3>as a starter and play thirty two minutes because he

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<v Speaker 3>because he gets on a little bit of a role

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<v Speaker 3>and then two nights later he doesn't even get in

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<v Speaker 3>the game because the matchup isn't right and they're trying to,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, take a look at somebody else, and so, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what you're gonna see. That that's I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of that changes for what the Jazz is

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<v Speaker 3>overall approach going.

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<v Speaker 4>Into this season was gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's let's talk about some of the individual players

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen so.

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<v Speaker 1>Far and your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to start with Keante, but I want

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<v Speaker 2>to start with a question at at what point because

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<v Speaker 2>I I oftentimes say, like comes to summer league, don't

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<v Speaker 2>worry about mak or miss. When it comes to rookies,

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<v Speaker 2>not many of them are going to shoot a very

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<v Speaker 2>high percentage. But at what point do we worry about

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<v Speaker 2>maker miss with Kyante? Because here are his college stats

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<v Speaker 2>at Baylor, he played thirty three games, he shot thirty

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<v Speaker 2>seven percent from the floor and thirty three percent from three. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So then we move over to his rookie year with

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<v Speaker 2>the Jazz, he shot thirty nine percent from the floor

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<v Speaker 2>in thirty three percent from three. And now we look

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<v Speaker 2>at what we've seen as far as this start goes

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<v Speaker 2>and Kyante right now is twenty seven percent from the floor,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three percent from three. So college rookie start to

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<v Speaker 2>second year, the maker miss numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't ignore them.

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<v Speaker 2>Like at this point he has shown that he is

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<v Speaker 2>a lead guard that can't shoot the basketball. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how else to say it, Like, at

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<v Speaker 2>what point does that become a concern.

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<v Speaker 3>let's look at it this way. He in another another

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<v Speaker 3>ten days or so, he turns twenty one years old. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So he's a young guy. Played one year of college,

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<v Speaker 3>played one year professional last year. Now he's starting his

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<v Speaker 3>from my perspective, is that they're still trying to figure

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<v Speaker 3>out whether he's a point guard or whether he's a

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<v Speaker 3>scoring two guard. And I think, you know, based on

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<v Speaker 3>what he's done so far for me, I think he's

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<v Speaker 3>his career being utilized as a as a Jordan Clarkson

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<v Speaker 3>guard who's a volume shooter. He's I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>to do both those things at the same time and

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<v Speaker 4>Is puts another layer to it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think the Jazz at some point they have

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<v Speaker 3>to figure out is he going to be a point guard?

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<v Speaker 3>Do we think he's good enough to do that? And

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<v Speaker 3>on being better with the ball and not trying to

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<v Speaker 3>loose to do the Jordan Clarkson type thing. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's what's gonna happen, you know, as his as his

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<v Speaker 2>We have the triumphant return of one Tim McMahon to

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<v Speaker 2>Trip covers BYU Undefeated Sam. I'm going to go ahead

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<v Speaker 2>and go with Bruckhouse. I believe that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been on the show before, so I need to

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<v Speaker 2>learn his name before he hops on. Do a little NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we're gonna bring Donnie for some soccer. AZRSL welcomes

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<v Speaker 2>in Minnesota. Have you ever been do an MLS playoff match.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes I have, aren't they And I've been to several

461
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<v Speaker 3>you know, I become a real fan the last several years.

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<v Speaker 3>We have good friends, the Farleys, who have season tickets

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<v Speaker 3>and they let us come with them and we, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know about like tonight, where it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>freezing out and it's gonna be a little.

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<v Speaker 4>Dicey, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I Usually when I go there, it's ninety degrees out

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<v Speaker 3>in the sun and we're sweating and whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what's funny about soccer, right.

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<v Speaker 3>It starts in the cold in March, and then in

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<v Speaker 3>the middle of the season if the sun is out

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<v Speaker 3>and it's hot and it's ninety five and whatever, whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>and then at the end of the season it's back

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<v Speaker 3>to being cold again.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're watching, the season is way too long. It's

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<v Speaker 1>garrely long.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but we'll be cheering for oursel the mast Downny's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna hop on get us ready for that mass great

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<v Speaker 2>all right, Smitty. So look, it's three games in, but

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<v Speaker 2>it is sports radio. So it's not like I'm worried

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<v Speaker 2>about Lowry. Nobody should be worried about Lowry had a

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<v Speaker 2>great game one against Memphis and then the last two games,

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<v Speaker 2>he's combined eight of thirty two and it's clear he's

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<v Speaker 2>on the first page of the scouting reports.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So Golden State ran a couple of guys at him Dallas.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he was their main point of emphasis defensively.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you like most.

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<v Speaker 1>About Lowry Start?

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<v Speaker 2>And what do you make of the past couple of

491
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<v Speaker 2>games when he is going to be the number one

492
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<v Speaker 2>dude the teams are watching out for how he's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of adapting to that role.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's what he's going to get every night.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's he's going to have to get used to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you know, the other the other guys who were

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<v Speaker 3>in the so called developmental stages and are just going

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<v Speaker 3>to have to be able to start pulling some weight

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<v Speaker 3>to help him, to free him up a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's still he's still shooting. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>early in the season. It's only one week spend. We

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<v Speaker 3>spend twenty six weeks in the NBA season. They've played

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<v Speaker 3>one so they played you know, three games out of

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<v Speaker 3>out of eighty two. But but you know, he's still

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<v Speaker 3>shooting the ball, okay, you know from distance when he's

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<v Speaker 3>open you know, early season here he's shooting forty seven

507
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<v Speaker 3>from three eighty five from the line. He's I still

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<v Speaker 3>think he's a potential one eighty guy for a season,

509
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<v Speaker 3>but he's gonna have to get more help, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I do like the early season play of Colin Sexton.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's playing with his usual passion, his usual aggressiveness,

512
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<v Speaker 3>but it looks like he's playing a little bit tighter,

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit smarter, and and again that that that

514
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<v Speaker 3>speaks to his maturity in the league now and uh

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<v Speaker 3>and and I think they're gonna have to rely on

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<v Speaker 3>him as well. And then whether you're throwing the guys

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<v Speaker 3>like Clarkson and Collins or if they're even gonna be here,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, during the season as a season unfolds, if

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<v Speaker 3>the Jazz are gonna do something with them, which I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know anything about that, but it doesn't seem like

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<v Speaker 3>those guys fit in with what they're trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>done long term with this group. So some of those

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<v Speaker 3>young guys are going to have to play, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to have to start pulling a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>weight to just take some of that burden off.

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<v Speaker 4>Of marketing it.

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<v Speaker 2>So and I always say this. You know, we can

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<v Speaker 2>only go off their word. We can only go off

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<v Speaker 2>what they're saying. And as you and I both know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's what the front office says to the media and

531
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<v Speaker 2>the public, and then there's what actually goes on. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but whenever Danny and Justin speak, it's development, development, development, youth.

533
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<v Speaker 2>We got to see what sort of hand we've been dealt.

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<v Speaker 2>If the developmental program is working, Walker will be a

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<v Speaker 2>case study this year because it's his third year in

536
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<v Speaker 2>the program. Right I think it's been an a plus

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<v Speaker 2>start for him. Right now, through three games, Walker's at

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<v Speaker 2>ten points, eleven boards, three blocks. His shooting percentages are

539
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<v Speaker 2>back to where you want. He's sixty eight percent from

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<v Speaker 2>the floor, only fifty seven percent from the line. We

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<v Speaker 2>need Walker to shoot better from the free throw line,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's getting nitpicky because I think he's been among

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<v Speaker 2>their best players through the first game.

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<v Speaker 3>Give me your thought, Yeah, well, he looks a little

545
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<v Speaker 3>bit better to me. You know, I like his rebounding.

546
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<v Speaker 3>I like the fact that he looks like he's moving

547
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<v Speaker 3>with a little more purpose when he's uh, especially on

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<v Speaker 3>the on the offensive end. Look, you know these are

549
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<v Speaker 3>early numbers, but if you if you told me now

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<v Speaker 3>in October, Uh, he's averaging you know, in this this

551
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<v Speaker 3>first handful of games, ten points, eleven rebounds, and and

552
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<v Speaker 3>almost three blocks a game. If you told me, if

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<v Speaker 3>you said, would you take that in April and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what he did all year? I would say give

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<v Speaker 3>me that because those those are those are helpful numbers

556
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<v Speaker 3>for a group that's trying to get better and trying

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<v Speaker 3>to improve. Those numbers from a center position, with the

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<v Speaker 3>way that they're constructed currently, would be very would be

559
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<v Speaker 3>a contributing factor to them getting better. So if he

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<v Speaker 3>can keep up that kind of pace, I think that

561
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<v Speaker 3>would be good. You know, I don't think he should

562
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<v Speaker 3>be doing anything that's off the charts, but anything that

563
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<v Speaker 3>he can do where he averages a double double and

564
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if he can do that, if that

565
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<v Speaker 3>if he can keep that up, but anything around those

566
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<v Speaker 3>numbers he's ten to eleven. Now, if he ends up

567
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<v Speaker 3>averaging eleven, eleven and eight or something like that with

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<v Speaker 3>a two blocks, a block and a half, whatever, that

569
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<v Speaker 3>kind of thing, that would mean to me that he's

570
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<v Speaker 3>made that incremental step in this third year to being

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<v Speaker 3>a contributor to a winning effort.

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<v Speaker 2>So tonight he's got Sabonis. Right, So the Kings are

573
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<v Speaker 2>in town, and you know Sacramento one and two, first three.

574
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<v Speaker 2>They bring in DeMar DeRozan in the offseason. But Walker's

575
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<v Speaker 2>got Sabonis, who right now is twenty three points eleven boards,

576
00:29:56.759 --> 00:29:59.599
<v Speaker 2>about just under a block six assists because he can

577
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<v Speaker 2>pass it. Yeah, So what is Walker up against tonight?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's he's gonna get worked tonight by Sibonis and

579
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<v Speaker 3>then and then and and because because uh, Demontes can

580
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<v Speaker 3>go outside and that's the thing. He can go outside,

581
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<v Speaker 3>and if he gets Kessler in space at all, now

582
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<v Speaker 3>he can go to work. He's got a great pivot move,

583
00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:24.920
<v Speaker 3>he's got great footwork, and and he'll be able to

584
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<v Speaker 3>set up. He can make elbow jumpers. He can even

585
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<v Speaker 3>step back off of that. If you give him space,

586
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<v Speaker 3>he can make that. If you get up on him.

587
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<v Speaker 3>He's got the footwork and the ability to go one

588
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<v Speaker 3>two bounces and get right to the rim on a big,

589
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<v Speaker 3>big guy like Kessler. So he's gonna he's gonna have

590
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<v Speaker 3>his hands full because Sibonis is a different type of

591
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<v Speaker 3>big man that that doesn't really fit into the mold

592
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<v Speaker 3>of what Kessler is usually used to guarding.

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<v Speaker 2>Since he is in town tonight. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever asked you once about your experience with Trey Lyles. Yeah,

595
00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:03.839
<v Speaker 2>he's still in the league. He's still playing significant minutes

596
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:07.799
<v Speaker 2>for a good team. And you know, I I understood

597
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<v Speaker 2>why you guys liked him. I thought it was easy

598
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<v Speaker 2>to see a guy with that size and still with

599
00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:14.640
<v Speaker 2>the skill that he has put it on the floor

600
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<v Speaker 2>shoot a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>But what was what was the experience like from your

603
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<v Speaker 2>vantage point when Trey was here? And obviously when he left,

604
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<v Speaker 2>he had some things to say about Quinn that didn't

605
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<v Speaker 2>seem to land very well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know.

607
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<v Speaker 3>He was he was always a quiet guy, had great

608
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<v Speaker 3>parents who were always here, a lot that you know,

609
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:36.960
<v Speaker 3>involved in his career. Maybe maybe a little too much

610
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<v Speaker 3>on the pro level, you know, but that's okay. You know,

611
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:44.680
<v Speaker 3>they they cared about him and about how he was doing.

612
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:47.119
<v Speaker 3>So I I get that, uh, And I had to

613
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<v Speaker 3>deal with some of that in my role at the time,

614
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:53.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, with the organization. But he's a good guy.

615
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:58.720
<v Speaker 3>He's a quiet guy. He was always uh, you know,

616
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<v Speaker 3>came to work. I always thought that he had another gear.

617
00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:06.839
<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, he never really got to in any kind

618
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:12.640
<v Speaker 3>of consistent level, you know. But uh uh then again,

619
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<v Speaker 3>you know he was uh he was on that Kentucky team,

620
00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:21.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, with with Devin Booker and the Jazz. We

621
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<v Speaker 3>we we took Trey Lyles and Phoenix. The next pick

622
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:26.759
<v Speaker 3>took Devin Booker. So you can sit there and go,

623
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<v Speaker 3>you know, you guys, you know, how dumb were you? Guys?

624
00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:32.960
<v Speaker 3>You know, you guys took Booker. My whole different story. Okay,

625
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:36.240
<v Speaker 3>all right, yeah, so you win some and you lose some,

626
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:39.599
<v Speaker 3>all right, But you know, Trey Lyles has been a

627
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:46.519
<v Speaker 3>a serviceable journeyman player, Okay. Devin Booker has been a

628
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:50.759
<v Speaker 3>multi time All Star, a main guy, and an Olympic

629
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<v Speaker 3>gold medalist. Okay, so he's the guy. So you know,

630
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<v Speaker 3>that's one of the things when you're scouting that's difficult

631
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<v Speaker 3>on some of these so called a big blue blood programs,

632
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:06.559
<v Speaker 3>whether it's a Duke or a Kentucky or a Kansas

633
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:10.759
<v Speaker 3>where they may have multiple NBA level guys on the

634
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:13.839
<v Speaker 3>team and you see him play one year before they

635
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:17.200
<v Speaker 3>enter the NBA Draft, but maybe you don't see everything

636
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:21.359
<v Speaker 3>that they can do or maybe their shortcomings because they

637
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:23.759
<v Speaker 3>have to work within a confined space because they're with

638
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:26.559
<v Speaker 3>all these other guys. They're not the one star on

639
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:30.000
<v Speaker 3>the college team. You know, like Dalton connect last year

640
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:32.559
<v Speaker 3>in Tennessee. You know who's getting all the shots and

641
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:35.160
<v Speaker 3>getting all the attention and everything. You know, they're there

642
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.519
<v Speaker 3>with a bunch of other guys, and sometimes guys get

643
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:41.039
<v Speaker 3>lost in the shuffle. That happened to Wesley Matthews way

644
00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:44.279
<v Speaker 3>back when in Marquette. You know, he was playing with

645
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:47.559
<v Speaker 3>two other teammates who were all three of them were

646
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:52.680
<v Speaker 3>NBA guys, and he didn't show as much as you know,

647
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:55.759
<v Speaker 3>maybe he could have. And in his collegiate career the

648
00:33:55.880 --> 00:33:58.599
<v Speaker 3>senior year, and the other two guys got drafted and

649
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:02.720
<v Speaker 3>West didn't get drafted. And West comes into the Jazz

650
00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:06.799
<v Speaker 3>Summer League and to a series of events, ends up

651
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:09.840
<v Speaker 3>his second year signing a free agent, you know, a

652
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:12.079
<v Speaker 3>contract with the way the rules were at that time,

653
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:17.280
<v Speaker 3>making more money in his second year than Blake Griffin,

654
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:19.480
<v Speaker 3>who was in the same draft class, who was the

655
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:20.320
<v Speaker 3>number one pick.

656
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:22.599
<v Speaker 4>I mean, just by a.

657
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Set of circumstances that's that we would have to go

658
00:34:26.360 --> 00:34:29.400
<v Speaker 3>into on another show. But it's really it's one of

659
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:33.519
<v Speaker 3>those things where you really have to scrutinize who you're

660
00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:37.119
<v Speaker 3>looking at in college because you're never quite sure if

661
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:39.960
<v Speaker 3>all you're seeing is all that is there?

662
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:44.079
<v Speaker 2>How much while we're in this space, and I want

663
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:46.679
<v Speaker 2>to acknowledge how unfair this is as far as what

664
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:49.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to bring up, because to your point, everybody

665
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:53.519
<v Speaker 2>has hits, everybody has misses. So whenever anybody throws Trey

666
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Burke at me, I said, well, okay, Donovan late lottery,

667
00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:58.079
<v Speaker 2>go bear late first, like in order to be fair.

668
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:01.199
<v Speaker 2>But how much of the this is do you still

669
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:03.800
<v Speaker 2>think about it? Do you still think about Kawhi? Do

670
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:06.360
<v Speaker 2>you still think about Devin Booker? Do you still think

671
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:11.079
<v Speaker 2>about uh Jokic Gianness? I mean, and everybody missed on

672
00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:13.559
<v Speaker 2>those dudes, let's be clear. But as a guy that

673
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:17.159
<v Speaker 2>evaluated talent, do those misses still kind of haunt you

674
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:17.599
<v Speaker 2>a little bit?

675
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:20.119
<v Speaker 3>Well, it just I don't know if it haunts as

676
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 3>much as you just you're always try and be retrospective

677
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:26.800
<v Speaker 3>about you know, what you were looking at, uh and

678
00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:28.679
<v Speaker 3>you and you've got to make sure that you don't

679
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:33.559
<v Speaker 3>get caught into a mode of revisionist history. In other words,

680
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:36.599
<v Speaker 3>you have to remember that what you thought and what

681
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:40.199
<v Speaker 3>you had at that time in terms of information and

682
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:44.599
<v Speaker 3>intelligence was what you based a decision on, and you

683
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:48.000
<v Speaker 3>can't change that five years later and say, oh, well,

684
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:49.800
<v Speaker 3>well we should have done this, So we should have

685
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:50.159
<v Speaker 3>done that.

686
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:52.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, everybody can do that.

687
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:53.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, of course.

688
00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:56.800
<v Speaker 3>And that's that's the Monday morning quarterbacking and that's you know,

689
00:35:57.239 --> 00:35:59.920
<v Speaker 3>that's that's a lot of that spens in my opinion

690
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:02.800
<v Speaker 3>from where for more, the seat I used to sit

691
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:05.519
<v Speaker 3>in for for a long time is you know, guys

692
00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:08.440
<v Speaker 3>people who never did it before, and they always have

693
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:12.320
<v Speaker 3>the answers. Tomorrow, I'll give you the answer tomorrow. Okay,

694
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.199
<v Speaker 3>after the game tonight, I'll tell you who the best

695
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:18.079
<v Speaker 3>play you know, And so you have to do you

696
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:20.159
<v Speaker 3>have to work with what you have at that time.

697
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:24.159
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, you you know, hey, I was I was

698
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:27.800
<v Speaker 3>really high. I remember at the time on Robert Swift

699
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.239
<v Speaker 3>who was coming out, who was coming out of high

700
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:33.760
<v Speaker 3>school and you know, out of Bakersfield and looked like

701
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:36.199
<v Speaker 3>a big guy who knew how to set a screen,

702
00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:40.280
<v Speaker 3>knew how to roll, you know, had good hands. You know,

703
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:43.039
<v Speaker 3>it could be you know, it could be a really

704
00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:46.400
<v Speaker 3>solid big man in the league, and I think he

705
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:50.760
<v Speaker 3>had the skill or ability to potentially do that, but

706
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:53.360
<v Speaker 3>he had other things off the court, uh, that got

707
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:56.280
<v Speaker 3>in his way and derailed him from any kind of

708
00:36:56.280 --> 00:37:00.199
<v Speaker 3>a lengthy career, you know. And uh, you know, then

709
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:02.079
<v Speaker 3>there are other guys, you know, whether it's a Paul

710
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:04.880
<v Speaker 3>Millsap at forty six or whether it was a Mo

711
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:08.800
<v Speaker 3>Williams at forty six, and guys that you like, and

712
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:11.360
<v Speaker 3>they're still there in the draft, and you go, well, well,

713
00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:12.159
<v Speaker 3>I like this guy.

714
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:13.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't know why he's not gone already.

715
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:16.159
<v Speaker 3>He's a you know, and and so you you know,

716
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:20.320
<v Speaker 3>if you get a chance at him now Carl, yeah, Johnny, Carl, Yeah,

717
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:24.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, John was taking sixteen, Carl was taking thirteen.

718
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:26.039
<v Speaker 4>You know.

719
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:30.079
<v Speaker 3>But there's also all the guys that you liked that

720
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:35.480
<v Speaker 3>went somewhere else for whatever the circumstances were, and you

721
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:39.760
<v Speaker 3>were convinced, oh, Spence, check it's that guy. He you know,

722
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:43.159
<v Speaker 3>I really like him, and we were two spots away

723
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:46.840
<v Speaker 3>from getting them. And now now the other team has him,

724
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:49.559
<v Speaker 3>and five years from now, you know, he's a four

725
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:52.519
<v Speaker 3>time All Star and going, boy, those guys are really smart.

726
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:55.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, and you don't. You're sitting there going, well,

727
00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:59.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, hey, I was pretty smart too, I just

728
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:01.440
<v Speaker 3>didn't get him. You know, that kind of thing. So

729
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:04.039
<v Speaker 3>you have those kind of thoughts that you can get

730
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:07.400
<v Speaker 3>carried away with at times, and and you know, but

731
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:10.119
<v Speaker 3>when you're in the in the heat of it, when

732
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:14.280
<v Speaker 3>you're in that that space, you really have to be

733
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:19.320
<v Speaker 3>cognizant that you've you've checked all the boxes and that

734
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:22.599
<v Speaker 3>you're comfortable with whatever it is you're doing at that moment,

735
00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:26.239
<v Speaker 3>because those are the things that live with you. Hey, look,

736
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:30.719
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people liked Donovan Mitchell right, and the

737
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:33.039
<v Speaker 3>Jazz were just we were never going to get him

738
00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:36.320
<v Speaker 3>at twenty four, which is where the Jazz were picking

739
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:40.800
<v Speaker 3>that year, And Dennis Lindsay made a great move with

740
00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Tim Connolly and Denver to move up from twenty four

741
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:50.480
<v Speaker 3>to thirteen, which, by the way, was where when we

742
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:54.159
<v Speaker 3>traded Trey Lyles. So Denver liked Trey Lyles coming off

743
00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:57.920
<v Speaker 3>his rookie year, So the Jazz traded Trey Lyles and

744
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:01.960
<v Speaker 3>twenty four to get up to thirteen. Denver liked the

745
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:04.239
<v Speaker 3>move because they thought they were getting two, you know,

746
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:07.679
<v Speaker 3>decent players and Trey Lyles and the kid I can't

747
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:10.440
<v Speaker 3>remember his name, not from Syracuse that they drafted who

748
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:13.239
<v Speaker 3>really didn't pan out, but they liked them at the time,

749
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:17.800
<v Speaker 3>and we the Jazz were able to get Donovan Mitchell.

750
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:22.880
<v Speaker 3>Now Dennis doesn't make that move, or or Denver doesn't

751
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:25.599
<v Speaker 3>want to make a move, and Dennis can't get something

752
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:29.239
<v Speaker 3>done with the other teams, and Mitchell goes seventeen to

753
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:33.480
<v Speaker 3>Portland or you know whoever it would have been, and

754
00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:37.360
<v Speaker 3>then Donovan Mitchell never shows up in Utah and doesn't

755
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:40.400
<v Speaker 3>have the start of the career that he had. And

756
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:44.639
<v Speaker 3>there's millions of those stories, and sometimes it's always fun

757
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:48.480
<v Speaker 3>to go back and see what might have happened if

758
00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:52.480
<v Speaker 3>just one different thing had taken place, whether it's during

759
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:56.199
<v Speaker 3>a draft process or during a workout process. You know,

760
00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Carlos Boozer came in had a I had a terrible

761
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:05.039
<v Speaker 3>workout with us, and we asked him afterwards, hey, you know,

762
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:08.119
<v Speaker 3>how come you and he tells us, well, we didn't.

763
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:11.960
<v Speaker 3>I haven't eaten in about thirty hours, and we go,

764
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:14.239
<v Speaker 3>what do you mean you haven't eaten? He goes, well,

765
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:16.840
<v Speaker 3>I didn't. I didn't eat yesterday morning before he got

766
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:19.199
<v Speaker 3>on the plane because I thought there'd be food on

767
00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:21.360
<v Speaker 3>the plane, and then there was they didn't have it,

768
00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:23.679
<v Speaker 3>And so then I got here and I didn't have

769
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:26.039
<v Speaker 3>any money. I don't have a credit card, so I

770
00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:29.199
<v Speaker 3>didn't eat last night because at Duke they told us

771
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:33.199
<v Speaker 3>we couldn't order room service or anything when we're staying

772
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:36.159
<v Speaker 3>at the hotels. So I haven't eaten since yesterday morning.

773
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:38.880
<v Speaker 3>And Kevin O'Connor like blew his dad, like what are

774
00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:41.119
<v Speaker 3>you talking about? You know you got to eat and whatever.

775
00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:44.360
<v Speaker 3>I remember Kevin famously in that meeting saying saying, look

776
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:48.519
<v Speaker 3>a Booze, wherever you go from now on, if you're

777
00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:52.480
<v Speaker 3>hungry and you don't not sure what to do, use

778
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:55.480
<v Speaker 3>my credit card and just buy some food wherever you

779
00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:58.039
<v Speaker 3>I don't care, I'll pay for the food. Don't don't

780
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:00.679
<v Speaker 3>do that, Yeah, you know, And that's how That's how

781
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:01.360
<v Speaker 3>Booze was.

782
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:03.079
<v Speaker 4>That's the kind of guy he was.

783
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:05.039
<v Speaker 3>And then and then we had him back for a

784
00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:08.119
<v Speaker 3>second workout where just before the draft we obviously did

785
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:10.320
<v Speaker 3>much better, and but we didn't get a chance at

786
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:13.239
<v Speaker 3>him because Cleveland took him early in the second round.

787
00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:15.239
<v Speaker 3>And then we got him two years later. Blah, blah

788
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:17.400
<v Speaker 3>blah and and all that stuff. But all of those

789
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:21.320
<v Speaker 3>are fun stories, backstories about things that that did happen

790
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:25.400
<v Speaker 3>or things that didn't happen that could have happened if

791
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:28.559
<v Speaker 3>just one other thing had had gone differently. It's, uh,

792
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:30.920
<v Speaker 3>that's what makes this business so fascinating.

793
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:31.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

794
00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:33.320
<v Speaker 1>And the margin of error so thin.

795
00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, it's uh by winning is it comes and.

796
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:40.119
<v Speaker 3>That stuff is crazy and and you know, I we

797
00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:44.119
<v Speaker 3>always would would uh would use a comparison to like,

798
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:47.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, a professional golfer and all these guys, you

799
00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:50.559
<v Speaker 3>got the top guys you always hear about now, whether

800
00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:53.920
<v Speaker 3>it's Shoffley or Scheffler or you know, Marcu or whatever.

801
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:58.400
<v Speaker 3>But the guys who were like twenty five to two hundred, Yeah,

802
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:03.480
<v Speaker 3>they're like base the same guy and one guy made

803
00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:06.119
<v Speaker 3>a putt right and a qualifying thing, and the other

804
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:10.000
<v Speaker 3>guy shanked one shot off the tee or something and

805
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:13.199
<v Speaker 3>then that was it, you know. And it's that that

806
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:17.960
<v Speaker 3>that line of making it not making it successful not

807
00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:22.559
<v Speaker 3>successful is such as such a thin line, and there's

808
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:24.559
<v Speaker 3>so so little margin for error.

809
00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:26.599
<v Speaker 2>I saw that there's a video going around of a

810
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:28.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was the corn Ferry back

811
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:31.400
<v Speaker 2>in the day. But whatever the tour was that you

812
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:33.440
<v Speaker 2>had to play on to get to the PGA Tour.

813
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:35.440
<v Speaker 2>And there was a golfer who I think was in

814
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:38.039
<v Speaker 2>his mid thirties, and he had a chance to grab

815
00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:39.920
<v Speaker 2>his card. All he had to do was two putt

816
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:42.719
<v Speaker 2>from like four feet out, and he three putted because

817
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:44.599
<v Speaker 2>he just missed like a tap in and he never

818
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:47.440
<v Speaker 2>had a chance to qualify again. I mean yeah, and

819
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:48.719
<v Speaker 2>people never go with that.

820
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:51.519
<v Speaker 3>People never never hear about those stories, right right, And

821
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:54.599
<v Speaker 3>they they wondered why I thought you were a good golfer.

822
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:57.519
<v Speaker 3>I thought I heard a lot about you. Well yeah,

823
00:42:57.519 --> 00:43:00.440
<v Speaker 3>I was. Yeah, well, you know, and it's hard to

824
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:04.159
<v Speaker 3>explain to people. You know, how how thin that that

825
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:06.199
<v Speaker 3>that that that line really is?

826
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:08.239
<v Speaker 2>All right, smitty before I say you loose, We got

827
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:11.440
<v Speaker 2>about thirty seconds here, so it's probably not long enough

828
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:12.400
<v Speaker 2>to explain the whole thing.

829
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:14.320
<v Speaker 1>They're awful defensively.

830
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:18.079
<v Speaker 2>They're twenty fifth in efficiency, they're twenty seventh in scoring defense. Yeah,

831
00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:19.639
<v Speaker 2>I know it's only three games, but they were the

832
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:22.400
<v Speaker 2>worst defensive team in pro basketball last year, so they've improved.

833
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:25.400
<v Speaker 2>I get They're not last this year. They're third to

834
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:29.559
<v Speaker 2>last or fifth to last inefficiency, how do we how

835
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:30.320
<v Speaker 2>do we see a little bit.

836
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:33.079
<v Speaker 3>It's not well, they've got to they've got to be better, Spence,

837
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:37.159
<v Speaker 3>And it's no that that's just work, that's just effort,

838
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:42.320
<v Speaker 3>that's determination and and again, through this developmental process and

839
00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:44.559
<v Speaker 3>the stuff that the Jazz are going through now, they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to find out who the guys are that want

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<v Speaker 3>to play, who want to get after it. And when

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<v Speaker 3>they identify guys that don't, after a certain amount of time,

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<v Speaker 3>they're just going to put them on the train and

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<v Speaker 3>ship them out of town. They're going to go on

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<v Speaker 3>to the next guy because they've got to get better,

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<v Speaker 3>and especially the offensively is one area you can do

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<v Speaker 2>Great to see my friend, enjoy the game tonight and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see you soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Okay, Spence, And I haven't said this and maybe ever,

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<v Speaker 3>but go Yankees, just for you.

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