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Speaker 1: Good morning everybody. It's time for full Court Press. You

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look at your video screen and you don't see Adam

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Trigger hosting the show today. It's simply because Adam is

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out doing Adam Trigger things. He's at the Drexel game

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this morning, eleven am start. It happens to be a

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high school invitation special, so Trigg will be there amongst

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three thousand screaming high school kids. He'll be a courtside

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for this game, so he'll have a good bird's eye

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view of what goes on in that early game with Drexel.

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I want to first introduce our special guest here today,

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Jim Root from basket underreview dot com. If you guys

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want to see his work, go to basket under Review,

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a site that you hear Adam recommending constantly on this show.

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Very informative, formerly of Three Man Weave. Maybe some of

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you know him from Three Man Weave. But let me

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welcome ame in. Jim. Glad to have you here today,

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Glad to go over some college hoop with you for

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the next sixty minute.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, happy to be here tagging in for Trig. I

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definitely appreciate you guys letting me jump on. As you

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mentioned you have Basket on a Review, do a lot

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of work there. There's the discord and the site with

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Speaker 3: All our writing is Basket on Review or Action Network.

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Speaker 2: So just various places where you can locate us and

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see us talking about gambling or just college basketball in

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general because we're addicted, and we'll.

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Speaker 1: Review all those spots where you can find jams work

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for you at the end of the show for those

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who are trying to write that down real quick, but

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we'll get to it. I will say that you've instantly

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made friends with me by having the Missouri Tiger background there.

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My youngest son graduated Miszoo about five years ago, so

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familiar with campus Como, etc. Actually still do a live

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spot there each and every Friday in Como on their

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big show on Fridays about five twenty. So yeah, glad

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to see the Missoo flag hanging in the back. Let's

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get to business here though, because that's what we're here for.

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And yesterday Jim, we covered the Louisville Tennessee game, which

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goes tonight Thompson Bowling Arena. But before we get into

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today's card, we're interested in any thoughts you might have

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on this Louisville Tennessee game side total, whatever you see.

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I'll really quick tell everybody that this game opened Louisville

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minus one has been moved three and a half point

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moved toward Tennessee now two and a half one fifty

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seven and a half year total that is kind of

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stayed steady, only a one point upward movement in that regard.

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But Jim, go ahead, tell us what you feel about

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this Louisville Tennessee game.

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Speaker 2: I am very conflicted between what my gut thinks when

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I look at the game and what my numbers made

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when I when I actually handicapped it. So just at

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first glance, I was like, oh, Tennessee ten days off,

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coming off three losses against a team that seemed to

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give an all out effort against Memphis over the weekend.

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I like the spot a lot for Tennessee. I made

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it right around where it's at now, so I probably

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would have been on the move with the early openers

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and bet the home team as a dog. But where

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it's sitting right now, I don't see a lot of

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actual value even though, man just looking at the spot,

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it does set up well for Tennessee. I think they

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can kind of assert some of that physicality that they've

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gotten the paint, really deep front court rotation, even with

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Cade Phillips out for the season, that's going to be

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a problem I think for Louisville.

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Speaker 2: Can Tennessee disrupt that incredible perimeter offense that the Cardinals have.

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I think that comes down to the MIKEL. Brown junior

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matchup and keeping him out of the paint. That's where

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Bishop Boswell hopefully comes in. He's kind of the Jimi

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Mayshak of the new era for Tennessee. Not quite as

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refined yet, but he is a physical defender that I

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think should be the one that gets that assignment. I'd

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just let him use his physicality to keep Brown in front,

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and that could short circuit level opportunities to get those

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open three that's where they thrive. A total, wise, I

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with the under. I think it because I sort of

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like Tennessee. I think the game flow slows down. Their

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defensive possession length is indicative of how they can kind

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half court versus louvill wanting to run. So I would

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definitely lean towards the under, despite having it a hair

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higher than where it's at right now. I just think

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the way it plays out and with what I think

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the game flow will be, Tennessee forces level to play

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a game they don't want to play, and that's in

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Speaker 1: That seems to be the consensus that we had yesterday.

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Tennessee real quick. Before we move on, I just want

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to ask your opinion of a particular player I kind

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of put the burden in this game, and you mentioned

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his name on Jacoby Gillespie for Tennessee, a guy who

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his numbers so far this year, you see really nice

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performances first five games of the year in lesser competition

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mostly the games against higher echelon teams. Gillespie's shooting just

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standout on Maryland last year. Jacoby Gillespie is turning out

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to be more of a serviceable power five or sporadic

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power five shooting point guard than he was at Bellmont.

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emphasis on him being able to get buckets for Tennessee.

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Your opinions on Jacoby Gillespie and his production here at

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a higher level the last year plus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, coming back home to Tennessee, I think that was

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like the big story. And when they got him, you know,

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a really highly regarded transfer from the team that didn't

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use its bench much. He played almost every minute at Maryland,

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the Big Ten that that really showed up. And this

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year the shooting has not quite been there. It seems

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it's him and Nate Amant really the only two guys

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that produce shots for them, and so he's taken more

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difficult ones, a little bit more off the bounce. Nobody's

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especially when you watch his shot. It's not like a

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true gunner. It's a little bit of a lower release,

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it's a really high arc. I think that kind of

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shot is harder to create off the bounce, and he's

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of that, Teams are able to focus on him a

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little bit. We'll see how Louiville defends him, if they

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rotate guys or what they do with him. But yeah,

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a top one or two offensive option, whereas at Tennis

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Speaker 1: Guys, we're going to move on to today's games. If

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you'd like to see what Adam and I had for

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a breakdown and analysis of this game, go to yesterday's

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Full Court Press show on YouTube TV the Wager twelve channel.

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There may be a separate video cut just for that

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game in particular, but if not, you can find it

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at the top of the show from yesterday. Let's go

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ahead and get some Big East action here. Butler at

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Connecticut tonight. Interesting. Obviously, I'm a Connecticut native, pretty close

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with that program as far as information and stuff go.

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This is a matchup here. Butler a team under Thad

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Mata that has played really well this year, Connecticut, a

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team obviously one through nine that I would argue is

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one of the three best one through nine rotations in

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the nation right now. Dan Hurley kind of echoed that

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the other day. I'm not gonna say that Dan Hurley

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copies my thoughts, but Dan Hurley believes his team is

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that deep and that talented at all five position. They

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come in here, though, Jim really quick here. Bad against

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the point spread this year. Yukon right now just two

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and five against the number last seven games in my estimation.

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Some of that is built on the way that they play.

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They don't really play a nineties point style of basketball,

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and they're generally overpriced in the market, so dogs have

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been able to cover against them. Butler could be a

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live dog here. As I mentioned, they've been good to

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start the year. I got a couple of thoughts on

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the matchups here fundamentally, but go ahead thoughts on Connecticut

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and Butler here tonight in Biggie's play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yukon is interesting with as you mentioned, not being

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as sharp against the number, you know, the like those

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dominant teams that ended up winning the national title. They

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were a juggernaut against the number in the non conference,

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like covering every single game, blowing every bad team out.

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the injuries. You know, terroris Reed not being up to

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full health, in them having to play a lot of

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Riva at center, and then also you know, integrating Mullins

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figuring him out. But yeah, they have not blasted bad

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competition in the same way you typically saw with hurly teams.

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wants to run it up when possible, but teams have

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been able to hang around with them. You know, Colombia

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but they do have five incredible wins right now, Like

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at the top of you know, wins above bubble metrics

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and stuff. Yukon has some really, really good wins against

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top competition. I think that shows up and continues. You know,

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maybe Butler keeps it a little closer a La Texas.

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Texas I think really saw the advantage of getting to

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the free throw line against Yukon, a team that will

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foul quite a bit in Butler's top fifteen free throw rate. Offensively,

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I think they're going to have to do that on

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the road, find a way to keep the crowd out

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of it by slowing the game down and knocking down

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some throws and not letting it get into a nice flow,

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a nice rhythm, because that's to me, where Yukon thrives

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is when they can execute their half court offense.

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Speaker 3: Now they've got more.

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Speaker 2: Back and read back, they can really score at will

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in a half court and I don't think Butler's defense

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is gonna be able to stand up against that. So

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I think Butler's got to, you know, make the game choppy,

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get to the foul line, maybe get read in foul trouble,

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and to me, that's the key for how they hang

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is interesting with Connecticut. The two true home

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games against solid opponents, Arizona and Texas won a straight

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up loss one and non cover strength of schedule. Wise,

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the numbers will tell you Yukon has played a much

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more difficult schedule than Butler. I think you know, Danny

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Hurley probably has taken a little bit of time to

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figure out his exact rotations here. How the minutes are

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going to be dispersed with this team, but they may

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get into a group. A couple of things here to

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know contrasting styles. Obviously, Butler would love to go quickly.

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and Yukon would rather clamp down on the defensive end.

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Yukon can set up Butler a great three point shooting

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team at this point in time. Yu kond a great

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three point defense at this time, so you have that

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as well. And Butler's got that great combination jim of

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three point shooting and offensive rebounding. Yukon is capable of

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negating both, which would make it real difficult for Butler's

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So you know, to get inside on Yukon is a

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difficult task. For sure. They have good rim protection. We'll

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see what Butler can do here. The number open sixteen

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and a half total one fifty one and a half

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totals come way down four point surge toward the under

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one forty seven and a half. Now, I think that

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makes a little bit of sense. Yukon at home should

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be able to dictate their style of play, and the

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game has come down from sixteen and a half to

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fifteen and a half. Some fifteen's out there. If you

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like the Yukon side, you obviously want to shop for that.

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can cover a sizeable number here against the Butler Bulldogs.

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How about Saint John's and De Paul. Let's move over

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there for me really quickly. I feel like this is

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just a bad matchup for De Paul Saint John's. What

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they do best harass the ball, play kind of helter

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skelter basketball. I know it's it's with a purpose, but

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just to you know, describe this style. They are a

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swarming defense, a defense that wants to get after you

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pretty much from the three quarters court. On Rick Patino

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certainly demands that out of his team. Not the best

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shooting team, last year, but certainly increased shooting this year.

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Last year they couldn't put the ball in the bucket

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for anything, and it came to bite them in the

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rear end come tournament time when they got ousted from

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the tourney. It was simply due to poor shooting and

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poor shooting from the free throw line. Chris Holton has

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done a good job with this team, but I just wonder, Jim,

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if you feel like they're simply overmatched in this contest

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against Saint John's. This game, let me just go to

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the current numbers here. Saint John's opened eighteen, ben bumped

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up to nineteen and a half. Total's gone from one

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forty eight to one fifty one. One fifty one and

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a half kind of makes sense to me. Saint John's

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loves to play one way. Let's get out and score

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and let's defend. And DePaul, for what it's worth, is

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a fairly decent scoring team as well, better than most.

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So your thoughts on Saint John's DePaul side.

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Speaker 2: Or total, Yeah, the number where it's at is a

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little high for me to lay it. It's it's right

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around kind of what I would make my threshold. But

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I do think Saint John's can fully dictate the style

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of the game here. They're twenty eighth in defensive turnover

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rate nationally, and De Paul, against a very bad schedule,

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has not seen a team in the top one hundred

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of that statistic, and I think.

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Speaker 3: That's helped make their own turnover numbers look okay.

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Speaker 2: But they don't have a ton of ball handling outside

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of Blocker, and the freshman McClure has been solid but

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hasn't seen this kind of pressure. I just think that

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fact in that aspect of not seeing any true athleticism

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like this, even playing LSU, a team that absolutely destroyed

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to Paul like not seeing this kind of pressure will

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show up and going on the road to start their

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Big East campaign, and they've got Yukon on deck on Sunday,

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So good luck to poor Blue Demons with that start

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to Big East play. But yeah, with Saint John's wanting

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to play fast, they've extended late in games quite a bit,

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even against like Quinnipiac and recently some of their more

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inferior competition against Iona, they extended that game late. So

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even if they're only up twelve with five minutes left,

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they've got a chance to cover this game because Patino

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wants to keep the foot on the gas. He's got

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a rotation that he's still figuring out. So you know,

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guys are playing for minutes down the final edge of

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the stretch here, So if they're not completely bowling out

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all right away, I think there's a chance they can

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still extend with the pressure, with the style, with the pace,

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with the total going up. I think that helps the

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favorite because we'll see a little bit more possessions and

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see that talent and athleticism got play out.

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Speaker 1: And it's possible through that analysis and through the way

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that I feel about this game, it's possible, guys that

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we could look towards team total in this game where

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Saint John's is concerned, you might want to look toward

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them over their number. Eighty five and a half looks

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like a number that they could climb over in this

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game against DePaul, As Jim mentioned, strength of schedule just

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hasn't been there for De Paul, and more specifically, style

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of opponent hasn't been there for De Paul so far

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this year. Not that Chris Holtman can't have them prepared.

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We'll see I figure Rick Patino will have his team prepared.

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Interesting that they have Kentucky on deck, and from a

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handicapping perspective, a lot of times you would think that

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maybe this is a look ahead game, but being that

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it's inside the conference, there's no way Patino's looking ahead

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in this particular instance, especially against a team he's a

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nineteen and a half point favorite against. You got to

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have wins in the Big East where you're supposed to

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get him. We'll see if he gets this one here.

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Anybody again out there viewing right now with questions on games,

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go ahead and drop your questions. Jim and I will

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move on and do one of our own here, and

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we'll take questions from anybody who's got a game that

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they want us to look at. Here, let's go to

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something else that it's a rivalry game, obviously somewhat high

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profile here, South Carolina not as high profile this season.

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Clemson has been through the riggers early on. But South

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Carolina is going to go in state rival We're gonna

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play Clemson here. Clemson opens thirteen one point thirty nine.

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Game has been bet down to twelve and a half

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totals moved up to one forty and a half. This

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Clemson it has been impressive at times so far this year.

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And South Carolina, which kind of opened up the season

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in my eyes as a work in progress, slowly developing

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a little bit here, and in this business, the one

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of the main things to try and be is proactive,

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try and see something before the market establishes that it's real.

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And maybe South Carolina is starting to become a more

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solid basketball team here thoughts on South Carolina Clemson number

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moved down a little bit to twelve and a half.

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As good as I've you know, I could say Clemson

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has been in higher profile games. Is South Carolina plus

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this many points with motivation? Obviously they always had motivation

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against Clemson. Maybe the twelve and a half is too large.

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Go ahead and give us your thoughts on South Carolina Clemson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the dog here and I made it nine.

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I would have taken anything double digit. So they get

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to get up around twelve and a half. I'm surprised

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it's it's wider than Ken got it eleven. I figured

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it'd be right around there. To me, Clemson's style translates

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best as the road or neutral site kind of underdog

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pick them type games where they slow you down. They

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force you to play against their size, with Godfrey and

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Welling and Davidson, guys that can really control the paint.

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As a big home favorite, they're a little less appealing

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to me because they're not going to let you play fast.

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They're not going to try to play all that fast themselves.

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They're slow tempo team under Brownel and that just sets

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up well for a competitive, low possession game. I know

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that total has gone up, like you said, and perhaps

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some of that is South Carolina hasn't made threes and

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neither has their opponent, so if people are looking at

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some potential regression, Clemson also top fifteen and three point

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percentage of defense statistically, we could see some made shots there,

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but I just think two teams that vastly prefer to

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play in the half court.

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Speaker 3: The rivalry aspect to it. Clemson doesn't overwhelm you with athleticism.

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Speaker 2: They're just kind of big and physical and in that's so,

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I think South Carolina has enough bodies to compete, and

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Michie Johnson coming back after boomeranging from Ohio State to

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South Carolina, to Ohio State back to South Carolina, he's

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given them that steady force at lead guard. That I

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think they need, and they look a little bit more

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like the version from twenty twenty four that made the tournament,

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whereas last year, you know, they only won a couple

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sec games against a really tough slate. Their top three

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games this year Virginia Tech, Northwestern Butler, they were right

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there in all of them. And I think they can

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be within single digits with Clemson in our trivalry game

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as well.

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Speaker 1: And I think a couple of things that bode well

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for South Carolina here in an underdog world. They don't

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turn the ball over. They rank very high in lowest

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turnover percentage in the country, somewhere around the top twenty five,

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so that's good for them. And you know, for what

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it's worth, they rebound on defense very well. So if

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you can pull Clemson to one and outs walk it

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up the floor there three hundred and eighth in average

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possession in length and not turn the ball over, you

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definitely get the picture here. We kind of see this

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game being, I think we both agree here, kind of

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a slow paced, defensive style battle here, everybody getting the

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setup in the half court, in which case twelve and

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a half becomes extremely large. Let's go to our Guy Garth.

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Thank you again, Garth for the donation the Louisville Tennessee game.

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He's saying he took the lessbie under seventeen and a

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half points. Seems that he doesn't play well versus good

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competition so far this season. I would agree with that,

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but like Jim said, it could be he's trying to

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get his feet underneath him as the Tennessee lead guard

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this year. It's hard to be in three different programs

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in three years and adjust to all three. But I'd

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like to get your take on the Arkansas Little Rock.

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Morehead total is lean over one thirty eight and a half. Okay,

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I'll go first here, Jim, simply because side perspective, I

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cannot play Arkansas Little Rocket in any way, shape or

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for him anymore. We started the season and I had

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my opinions on this particular team, and mainly they're shooting ability,

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which is so in even if I date back to

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last year, is so inconsistent, miserable one game, pretty good,

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the next, miserable the next team. I could never get

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a feel on what UALR was gonna do offensively this season.

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Their shooting has gotten even worse. They're just not a

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good offensive team, and to make matters worse as I

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dig into my notes on this game here real quick,

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they don't take care of the basketball is another thing.

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If you don't shoot well and you don't handle the

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basketball well, it makes for a very difficult offensive night

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for you. Morehead State not the greatest defensive team to

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ever take the hardwood, for sure, and they're in you know,

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Adam likes to use the phrase weight class. Morehead States

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certainly in their weight class, and maybe they could punch

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back and fight a little bit better here. They don't

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necessarily take care of the basketball either in Arkansas State

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or excuse me, Arkansas Little Rock is a team that

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you know fairly acted defensively. So maybe they can turn

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some turnovers into quick points. As we've mentioned on the

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show numerous times, turnovers don't necessarily mean two points. The

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other way. It could just be throwing the ball out

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of bounds and then you inbounds and you know, walk

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it up the floor, et cetera, et cetera. But for me,

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I'm kind of done garth with ualr overs at this

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point in time, just because I don't know what I'm

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going to get out of them offensively. That being said,

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this is a defensive opponent and an opponent that doesn't

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handle the ball well where maybe they can succeed on

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the offensive end. For me, I'd probably play it under

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the truth. Like I say, I'm just I'm probably more

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negative than most And Arkansas Little Rock at this point

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in time from an offensive perspective, We'll see how it goes.

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But that would be my two cents. Jim, go ahead,

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Arkansas Little Rock, Morehead State.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, these are two teams that are kind of messes

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for different reasons right now. You know, Little Rock is

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just racked with injuries. Their potential best perimeter player, KK

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Robinson got hurt in the preseason, so he's gonna miss

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his second straight year. One of his brothers, there's two

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on the team is also out for the season. And

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then last year's obc like arguably the best defensive player

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in the league, Getech. I can't pronounce his first name, apologies,

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but he has been out for a few games now,

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big time shot blocker. They'll throw him at the top

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of their zone, sometimes so much length. A guy that

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used to be at Florida take him out and it

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seems like they're just deflated and they haven't played well

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at all this season after entering the year is the

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preseason OBC favorite, So yeah, I'm not sure what to

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expect from them. On the other side, like Morehead, great

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team for years under Preston Spradland, but again under Maddox,

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they've been bad the last two seasons. They look a

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little sloppy, they look a little lost. They also have

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some injury concerns here, with Davian Cunningham missing their last game,

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highest usage offensive player, I'm not sure if you know if.

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Speaker 3: He's going to be back.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes he's reporting on the low major teams and their

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injury status is shaky. So I think a Tech being

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out helps the over to Garth's point, because he's such

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a good defensive player, But if Cunningham's out, that almost

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offsets it because then Morehead loses their best creator and

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best scorer, so you've.

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Speaker 3: Got to kind of balance those out.

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Speaker 2: Overall, I think it's probably going to be sloppy, as

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you mentioned, rob two teams that'll turn it over, and

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neither team defensive rebounds, so if they can actually get

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shots up, they can get offensive rebound looks and get

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on the glass.

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00:24:49,319 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 3: But if they're coughing it up too much.

477
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,039
Speaker 2: Then, I just think this game is going to be

478
00:24:53,039 --> 00:24:55,240
a little sloppy and I'm not sure what the pace

479
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,359
will actually be, so unfortunately, don't have a real strong take.

480
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,279
I'm just trying to give all the factors, make sure

481
00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:01,720
he considered before he locks that bet in.

482
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what we're here for, guys, try and

483
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,400
give you our handicapping process on these games. Garth. Again,

484
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,079
we appreciate the DONA. Hopefully we've helped you long a

485
00:25:12,079 --> 00:25:14,359
little bit there, Garth. By the way, Jim has been

486
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,039
pretty much on target with every single thing he sent

487
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,039
us this season, so I wouldn't be betting against Garth.

488
00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:26,839
I'll reserve my bet on that game for a different

489
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,359
game real quick. Here to the Little Rock side here,

490
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,960
last couple of games have gone over this particular number

491
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:40,119
that's being offered tonight. However, Arkansas State a pretty good

492
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,480
offensive team to combat that. This Arkansas Little Rock team

493
00:25:44,519 --> 00:25:47,279
gave up ninety to West Virginia, who wants to play

494
00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:51,799
in molasses. So that's not good defensively from Little Rock.

495
00:25:51,839 --> 00:25:55,279
Each side, let's the other side get their shots off

496
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,559
rather quickly, but goes or neither team goes quick enough

497
00:25:58,559 --> 00:26:02,240
on offense to maybe take advantage of that. In particular,

498
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,240
we're gonna move on. We have Okay, it looks like

499
00:26:05,559 --> 00:26:09,759
mad Max eight x five X. Thank you very much,

500
00:26:09,799 --> 00:26:13,640
mad Max for the donation. DePaul horrible in conference play,

501
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,720
have played three hundred and sixty first strength of schedule

502
00:26:16,799 --> 00:26:21,119
depol two hundred and three adjusted tempo, Saint John's forty

503
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,559
third team total Saint John's eighty five and a half

504
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,200
juice to underspread or team total. Okay, real quick, we'll

505
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,279
just repeat we did go over this game a few

506
00:26:30,319 --> 00:26:33,200
minutes ago. I will just reiterate that I would be

507
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,720
on Saint John's team total over in this particular instance,

508
00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:44,519
because to Jim's point, DePaul has not played a team

509
00:26:44,759 --> 00:26:48,720
of this magnitude and style as of yet. Saint John's

510
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,920
is an opponent that's a step up in class for

511
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,240
De Paul. They're also a completely different style the way

512
00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:59,720
they pressure the basketball. I could see Saint John's scoring

513
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,079
point soft turnovers in this particular game. Chris Holtman, we

514
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,519
respect him as a head coach. Obviously he'll have his

515
00:27:05,599 --> 00:27:08,640
team game planned and ready for this one, so will

516
00:27:08,759 --> 00:27:15,559
Rick Patino. Again, as noted early, DePaul has Yukon on deck.

517
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,480
Saint John's has Kentucky on deck, but we don't put

518
00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:21,440
a lot of stock into that because this is a

519
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,319
conference game, and so Saint John's gonna want to win

520
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,599
every conference game. That's wina Well, so for me, it

521
00:27:26,759 --> 00:27:30,720
probably would have been that team total of Saint John's

522
00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:35,359
under Okay, Now, since I've talked a little more than

523
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,519
Jim has and he's our guest here, we gotta let

524
00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:40,480
him have his thoughts. Here. We get a comment from

525
00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:45,480
Darryl Benton here, Darryl, welcome to the show, faithful follower.

526
00:27:45,559 --> 00:27:49,240
I see him everywhere on shows for wager Talk TV,

527
00:27:49,319 --> 00:27:51,759
so we appreciate you dropping in. Rob any thoughts on

528
00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:56,400
Wright State versus Miami of Ohio. I'm gonna let Jim

529
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,240
share his first and I'll back it up once he's done. Jim,

530
00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:01,079
go ahead, right State Miami of Ohio.

531
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

532
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 2: I like the home team here. I like Wright State.

533
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,839
We mentioned strength to schedule with the Paul. There's five

534
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,599
teams that have played a worse schedule than them, and

535
00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:10,680
one of them is Miami Ohio. They have not played

536
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,200
a single Top two hundred team this year. They played

537
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,839
two teams that aren't even Division One. Now they go

538
00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:17,720
on the road to a top one hundred and fifty team,

539
00:28:17,799 --> 00:28:21,079
it's a little more battle tested, has some young impressive talent.

540
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,400
Michael Cooper, the freshman guard for Wright State, is like

541
00:28:24,519 --> 00:28:26,839
one of the better players miam Ohio has seen all season.

542
00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:29,039
I just think this is kind of one where it

543
00:28:29,079 --> 00:28:30,720
catches up to Miami Ohio.

544
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 3: A little bit.

545
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: The fact that they haven't tested themselves yet. They played

546
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,000
a little bit on the road, Like this isn't their

547
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,400
first true road game. They played at air Force, went

548
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,160
to Asheville, went to Eastern Kentucky.

549
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,599
Speaker 3: But this is again the first like actually decent to

550
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,799
good team that they have played. And I think that

551
00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:48,839
that kind of shows up and Right State's able to

552
00:28:48,839 --> 00:28:49,640
get the win. Obviously.

553
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,039
Speaker 2: You see an undefeated team come to town, and I

554
00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:54,160
think Right State's going to be pretty locked in, so

555
00:28:54,599 --> 00:28:57,480
even in a strange non conference spot before both teams

556
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,480
start league play, I like the Raiders at.

557
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: Home, and I'll take it a step further. Darryl real

558
00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:08,559
quick here, because generally speaking, I am a totals handicapper. Darryl,

559
00:29:08,599 --> 00:29:11,519
You've been around long enough, you know where I come from.

560
00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:13,400
On most of these games, I look total first in

561
00:29:13,519 --> 00:29:17,200
side second. But to Jim's point, I see an advantage

562
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,960
here with the Right State team total over seventy six

563
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,519
and a half here at home. A good scoring team.

564
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,680
Right State is in Miami of Ohio, as Jim pointed out,

565
00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:30,960
not necessarily tested in this category so far this season,

566
00:29:31,119 --> 00:29:34,200
and Miami of Ohio they've taken on sort of a

567
00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:38,839
different persona here as far as pace of play is concerned.

568
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,400
They're a little quicker, they're a little more offensive oriented.

569
00:29:42,039 --> 00:29:44,000
We always talk about when you're trying to play these

570
00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:48,160
overs that possessions and number of possessions are meaningful. You

571
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,559
want as many chances as you can to score points.

572
00:29:50,839 --> 00:29:54,519
If this game in fact comes down to as the

573
00:29:54,519 --> 00:29:57,240
line would indicate, a near pick them game, you'll get

574
00:29:57,279 --> 00:30:01,039
free throws in the end. Sometimes the last minute drags

575
00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:03,319
on and on and on due to free throw shooting.

576
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,759
For Wright State, they're not a good free throw shooting team,

577
00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:08,759
So it's not going to help us in that regard

578
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,240
where team total is concerned, especially if these free throws

579
00:30:12,279 --> 00:30:14,400
are one in ones where you're missing the front end.

580
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,680
But I do think they're good enough offensively here to

581
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,599
get the job done as a good shooting team as

582
00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:21,799
far as effective field goal percentage is concerned, a nice

583
00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:24,559
three point shooting team as well. So maybe for me

584
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,720
and I will preface this by saying it's not a

585
00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:29,440
game I bet, but just as far as where I

586
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,359
would lean, I would probably lean on Wright State team

587
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,319
total to get the seventy seven points in that particular game.

588
00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:40,920
Back to Mad Max here, who continues to want to

589
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,680
have some advice on games, and Max again, thanks for

590
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:48,400
the contribution there. Northern Northern Colorado. Excuse me nine to

591
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,720
one getting less points due to record, but strength of

592
00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:56,319
schedule three hundred and thirteen Texas techoff loss to Arkansas

593
00:30:56,359 --> 00:30:59,519
spread minus twenty five and a half Texas Tech team

594
00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:03,319
total ninety and a half but juiced under bounce back spot.

595
00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:09,799
I will go ahead and tackle this one first here. Jim, Yeah,

596
00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:13,799
I mean Max, you found a team that's basically in

597
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,240
my you know, little heart shaped wheelhouse. I have an

598
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:22,319
affection for the Texas Tech team JT Top and anytime

599
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,440
he's on the floor, he's arguably the best player on

600
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,519
the floor. It's a unit that works real well together.

601
00:31:28,759 --> 00:31:30,799
This is a team that they can score against in

602
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,839
all sports. As far as my handicapping process goes. I

603
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,079
am a big bounce back guys, A big bounce back

604
00:31:39,079 --> 00:31:42,240
guy for those who have ever subscribed or in my

605
00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:44,799
analysis a lot of times you'll see in my analysis

606
00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:47,799
it's a bounce back spot. And I just for Texas Tech.

607
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,119
That was a hard fought game against John Calipari's Arkansas team.

608
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,359
Arkansas is a good team here. It's a step down

609
00:31:55,359 --> 00:31:57,799
in class, which we like. When we're going to try

610
00:31:57,839 --> 00:32:00,599
and play these team totals over, Texas Tech has shown

611
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,039
the ability to get near or above this price tag

612
00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:10,839
depending upon opponent. Nineteen and a half is a large number. However,

613
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,440
in this case it might be able to be done. Again.

614
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,400
I'm going to preface it by saying I have not

615
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:19,079
bet this game, but if I were going to, you

616
00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:21,319
know the old proverb gun to head, what would you do?

617
00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:25,519
I would probably lean towards Texas Tech over. I do

618
00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:30,119
think that it's a really good bounce back spot for them.

619
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:33,960
Minus twenty five and a half gets difficult in these games, guys,

620
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,119
because you don't know if you have a twenty eight

621
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,640
point lead with you five six minutes left, the bench

622
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,480
is gonna get cleared. It's holiday time. Coach gonna let

623
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:47,039
kids play and the margin could decrease at that point

624
00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:50,359
in time. I would say this, Northern Colorado, for what

625
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,160
it's worth, is not a team that's gonna give up

626
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,880
in the last five or six minutes. They'll play. They'll

627
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,920
give you the whole forty. So the number spread where

628
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,079
it becomes a little more difficult. I would say this,

629
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,359
if you like Texas Tech, you might want to just

630
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,279
slice it in half, isolate the first half of this game.

631
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:10,480
As I say this, I'm going to try and get

632
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,359
you the current first half number on this one, because

633
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,920
it's probably if I were going to play Texas Tech,

634
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,759
I would probably lean that way. They're a fourteen Well

635
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,279
shop it out between thirteen and a half and fourteen

636
00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:24,160
and a half point favorite here, so try and get

637
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,640
the lowest number available if you're on the Texas Tech side.

638
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,920
But I would probably look towards Texas Tech coming out

639
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,599
from the opening tip with a little bit of fire

640
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,319
and maybe covering first half. Jim go ahead thoughts on

641
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:34,920
this one.

642
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was kind of thinking about the first half too,

643
00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:40,599
because Texas Tech has no depth. They've really got six

644
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,640
guys that they trust playing. They only played six against

645
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,920
Arkansas this weekend, and part of that was because Luke Bamguoy,

646
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,400
their big shot blocking center, was out with a concussion

647
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,720
and Josiah Mosley, the transfer from Villanova, hasn't played yet

648
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,680
this year. So they've got eight guys they want to

649
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,799
play and only six are healthy right now. So that

650
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,640
I think helps the first half in a little bit

651
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,200
that you know, if they're playing their backups late, you

652
00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:05,920
worry about that backdoor cover you mentioned with Northern Colorado

653
00:34:06,279 --> 00:34:09,239
wanting to get back in the game. Also, Northern Colorado

654
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,639
hasn't played a team anywhere near this caliber, so I

655
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:14,880
think that sort of helps the first half angle two,

656
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,840
where there could be a little bit of shell shock

657
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,119
of playing a high major power five team with athleticism.

658
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,840
I mean, the best team that they've played is Saint Thomas.

659
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,679
That's the only top two hundred team that Northern Colorado

660
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:28,880
has played, and I love Saint Thomas. They're super well coached,

661
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,320
but that is not a team that brings a lot

662
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,199
of athleticism. They are a skill based, execution based type team.

663
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,280
Texas Tech could really overwhelm Northern Colorado in the paint. Now,

664
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,159
the two caveats I'll get one. Texas Tech has not

665
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:43,159
been a great first half team so far this year,

666
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:45,679
Like even when they blew out New Orleans didn't take

667
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,039
care of business there. They're only up five on Milwaukee

668
00:34:48,039 --> 00:34:50,960
after a loss. Those are their two post loss performances,

669
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,199
and they really were better in the second half, so

670
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,159
keep that in mind. And then also there's some weird

671
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,639
scheme familiarity here because of the staffs. Steve Smile used

672
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:02,960
to work for Jeff Linder at Northern Colorado.

673
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,079
Speaker 3: He's not head coach.

674
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:07,079
Speaker 2: Jeff Linder is now on the Texas Tech staff, hired

675
00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:10,280
away from Wyoming last year by Grant McCaslin, so the

676
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,920
coaches really know each other. That maybe is a little

677
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,119
less conducive to a blot if there's familiarity, So lean

678
00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:20,719
towards that first half. I did not bet anything here,

679
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,000
but I think the angle makes sense given to lack

680
00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:26,199
of debt and Northern Colorado just taking a huge step

681
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,320
up in class.

682
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,800
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714
00:37:19,159 --> 00:37:21,440
long you want to go ahead and pick up a

715
00:37:21,559 --> 00:37:24,599
handicaper four. But once again, you want to visit wager

716
00:37:24,679 --> 00:37:30,440
talk dot com, especially on Tuesdays four five dollars Tuesday.

717
00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:34,639
As I conclude that, Jim, we have a thing here

718
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:40,079
where each and every day we release a parlay the analyst.

719
00:37:40,119 --> 00:37:42,960
We started out with three of us, myself, Adam Trigger

720
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,159
and Brian Power. We would each release one play, make

721
00:37:45,159 --> 00:37:48,960
a three team parlay and give it to the viewership

722
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,440
and see how we do as it sits. We did

723
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,960
win last night, by the way, for those watching your

724
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,599
well aware, I myself had the Wyoming team total up

725
00:37:57,599 --> 00:37:59,880
and over seventy eight and a half. They got the

726
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:02,639
rather easily, and that game was bet down by tip

727
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:05,039
off it was seventy six and a half, but Wyoming

728
00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:08,480
did the job, and Adam was on Houston Christian plus

729
00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:12,320
the points which did get there against McNeice, the underdog

730
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,119
used the points to get the cash, and so that

731
00:38:15,199 --> 00:38:17,599
parlay brought us back to I was texting with Adam

732
00:38:17,639 --> 00:38:20,920
this morning. He does the math for us right around

733
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,719
the even mark. I think, a very very slight plus

734
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,000
on the season. So we're gonna take that into today.

735
00:38:26,039 --> 00:38:28,119
I won't ask you for yours, now, give you an

736
00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:31,000
opportunity to keep looking if you haven't got it already.

737
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,519
But I'm gonna give mine, and I'm gonna go out

738
00:38:33,559 --> 00:38:38,800
west in a game where style contrast is going to

739
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,199
be huge. Montana State at cal Poly slow cal Poly

740
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,159
right now guys the second fastest tempo team in the nation,

741
00:38:48,199 --> 00:38:52,119
ninth fastest in average length of possession, and not only

742
00:38:52,159 --> 00:38:54,840
are they quick to release their shots, they're quick to

743
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,119
give them up on the other end, fifty fifth in

744
00:38:57,159 --> 00:39:00,360
the nation. You come right back down, now, Montana's is

745
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,800
not a team that generally plays that style, but I

746
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,559
often say that in college basketball especially, it does happen

747
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:10,679
in the NBA too, Although in the NBA seems to

748
00:39:10,679 --> 00:39:13,079
be every game now just up and down, But in

749
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:18,599
college basketball teams that are favored kind of will fall

750
00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:21,440
into an underdog's pace of play if it's quick, because

751
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,800
they feel like, you know, we can get buckets against

752
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,519
these guys in what college basketball player doesn't want to

753
00:39:26,519 --> 00:39:29,159
pad their stats. I think that's where Montana State will

754
00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:31,639
fall tonight. They're not necessarily a fast paced team, but

755
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,880
Polly at Home is going to push the pace incredibly.

756
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,480
Here we're staring at a total that has been bet

757
00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:41,000
up a little bit from fifty six and a half

758
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,360
one fifty six and a half all the way to

759
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,519
one fifty nine and a half. We need one sixty

760
00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:48,480
to cash this ticket. You go through the cal Poly

761
00:39:48,639 --> 00:39:52,079
results so far this season, you see that one sixty

762
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,199
has been a common occurrence. Breaking that barrier has been

763
00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:58,920
a common occurrence for this team. They're a good three

764
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,920
point shooting team as well. We'll see if Montana State

765
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,119
can defend in an open floor type contest. Always tough

766
00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:09,400
to find your man when the game is going fast.

767
00:40:09,639 --> 00:40:11,199
When you can set up in the half court, you

768
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,800
can find your guy and lock him down a little bit,

769
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,800
follow him around. But in open floor basketball, it's very

770
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,519
difficult to find all the three point shooters cal Poly again,

771
00:40:21,199 --> 00:40:24,400
very fast offensive team, very good three point shooting team

772
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,400
on their home floor, probably dictate pace. I think Montana

773
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,079
State might be good for eighty in this instance as well.

774
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,159
I can see this thing hitting low one sixties right now.

775
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,679
There's still wiggle room. Obviously we've lost the opening number

776
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,960
at one fifty six and a half, but even at

777
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,719
one fifty nine and a half, like I say, I

778
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,519
can see this one getting to the one sixty three marks.

779
00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:48,239
So for me, my first leg of the parlay here

780
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,440
and we'll get gyms as the show goes on, will

781
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,760
be the Montana State cal Poly game. Stay up late

782
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,000
tonight if you're on the East coast, up and over

783
00:40:56,519 --> 00:41:00,920
one fifty nine and a half. Art is back with us,

784
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,840
Okay and Garth. As I mentioned earlier, generally a wealth

785
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,280
of information as far as producing winners for us here

786
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,199
on the show. I will just shout out to the

787
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,960
chat room here on this show, Jim, we have a

788
00:41:11,079 --> 00:41:15,119
chat room that's extremely knowledgeable in this sport, college basketball.

789
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:17,960
They bring good info each and every day, have good

790
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,960
thoughts and opinions. It's nice to have to speak with

791
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,719
an audience that does have a love for the sport.

792
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,280
And does follow the sport closely. Here we got East

793
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:32,239
Tennessee State UNC under one forty nine and a half

794
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,079
is the way Garth is looking. Seems like the Tar

795
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:38,719
Heels have been an underwagon. I won't disagree with that.

796
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,599
I'm gonna pass it off to Jim here. Let him

797
00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:46,519
talk a little bit about this etsu North Carolina game,

798
00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:49,239
and you know, if you have a play on the side, Jim,

799
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,320
go ahead and let it go as well. But Garth

800
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,159
is interested in the total here, so your thoughts.

801
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's absolutely spot on. They've been an underwagon. The

802
00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:01,199
total has gone under an eight of their ten games.

803
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,679
It's going under by over ten points a game so

804
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,480
far this year. So definitely a wagon on that side

805
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,320
of the ball. And Garth, I will own that I

806
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,079
have been on a couple of UNC overs that have

807
00:42:11,159 --> 00:42:14,280
not gone very well. So you're sharper than me on

808
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,519
UNC totals, I'll say that much. But yeah, East Tennessee

809
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:21,239
State has some general interest in running their coach, Brooks

810
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,639
Savage as a Steve Forbes guy. He coached under him

811
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:27,119
both at East Tennessee State and at Wake Forest, But

812
00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:29,920
that team hasn't played very fast this year and UNC

813
00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:33,559
has done a great job defensively of slowing teams down,

814
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,079
you know, outside the top three hundred defensive possession length.

815
00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:39,360
I think it's because they're huge and you just have

816
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,719
a hard time producing shots against that interior. They're number

817
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,760
one in the country in average height. UNC is so

818
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:50,079
like all across the positional spectrum, they've got size, and

819
00:42:50,119 --> 00:42:52,639
for a mid major team that's really hard to compete with.

820
00:42:53,559 --> 00:42:55,440
I do lean towards the dog because I don't think

821
00:42:55,559 --> 00:42:59,239
UNC has been overly convincing as a favorite, like laying

822
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,440
the number only beat up State by eighteen, Bonaventure by fifteen,

823
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:07,360
Navy by twelve, like these are not runaway performances Radford

824
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,760
by fifteen, So I think East Tennessee State has the

825
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,119
talent to stick around. But I do like your under

826
00:43:12,199 --> 00:43:14,639
angle because of the way UNC has controlled the pace

827
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,880
and East Tennessee State's not the kind of team that's

828
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,360
gonna crazy push the ball, and with UNC leading into

829
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,599
a very drop coverage heavy type style, like they're not

830
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,079
extending pressure, they're staying back by the hoop and forcing

831
00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:30,000
you to work on the perimeter that that works well

832
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,719
for an under. So I like the angle there on the.

833
00:43:32,679 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: Under yeah, and real quick here, Jim, I'll just get

834
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,159
into a little bit of betting philosophy with you for

835
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:44,000
the moment. Obviously, UNC, this is a much different style

836
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:46,440
team that Hubert Davis is putting on the floor. As

837
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,079
you said, three six ten a plus across their front line,

838
00:43:50,159 --> 00:43:53,639
all three positions. Generally we expect UNC to be a

839
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:59,519
push to tempo, score quickly, good decent shooting to good

840
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:03,440
shooting team, point production type team, and this year it

841
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:10,239
has been different and underwagon. Eventually, odds makers do catch

842
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,440
up to this type of stuff. But again, perception of

843
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,320
a team's history and recent history factors into how they

844
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,800
rate these teams to start the season. Maybe they're slow

845
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:26,039
on the trigger, UNC totals are concerned. And then on

846
00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:30,360
the East Tennessee state side, you mentioned Brooks Savage Steve

847
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:36,440
Forbes disciple in your opinion, how much of their kind

848
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,800
of different pace you know you would expect the Forbes

849
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,320
guy to play faster? How much of that not as

850
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:48,079
fast tempo would you say is dedicated to him getting

851
00:44:48,159 --> 00:44:52,599
used to and evaluating his current personnel. In other words,

852
00:44:52,639 --> 00:44:56,039
would you expect them to climb the ladder pace wise

853
00:44:56,119 --> 00:44:58,960
as the season goes on and maybe he's just experimenting

854
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,920
evaluating right now, or do you think this is after

855
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,239
seeing Etsu over eleven games. Do you think this is

856
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,239
the fashion that they're going to play all season long?

857
00:45:08,159 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is kind of who they are,

858
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,840
you know, looking back to the tenure with Forbes and Savage,

859
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,079
at Etsu when they were dominant, the thirty and fourteen

860
00:45:16,159 --> 00:45:18,719
was the slowest team that Forbes had there, and so

861
00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:22,159
I think maybe that's representative and has probably stuck with Savage.

862
00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:24,480
Of all right, when we slowed it down, we were

863
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,360
really good. And that hasn't quite been the case from

864
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:30,400
at Etsu. But he did go twelve and six in

865
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,239
the league last year, and it's a shaky conference this year.

866
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,159
I don't think Chattanooga or Furman or any of those

867
00:45:36,199 --> 00:45:39,360
preseason favorites have looked that good. So Etsu's got a

868
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,880
chance to sit atop the league, and with what they

869
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,039
have right now, they're the highest rated team in ken

870
00:45:44,039 --> 00:45:47,280
Pom in the SoCon. Playing the way they're playing, I

871
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,079
would expect them to kind of sit in this and

872
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,159
lean into this identity and just real quick to your

873
00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:55,199
point on UNC, I know this number is right around

874
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,880
what Ken Palm makes it total wise, but this is

875
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,239
by far the slowest UNC team in the last like

876
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:04,840
twenty years, between the way Hubert had played early in

877
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,239
his tenure and just what Roy Williams always did. For

878
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,119
them to be outside the top one fifty in tempo

879
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,679
is like unprecedented. And it's because they're slowing teams down.

880
00:46:12,679 --> 00:46:15,480
It's because of that size you mentioned Rob's three six

881
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:17,880
ten guys. Teams just don't know what to do in

882
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,119
the half court to produce a quality shot against them.

883
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,679
They're sitting back, they're conservative, and they're just saying good

884
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,760
luck figuring out a shot in the mid range when

885
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,519
you have to shoot over a six to ten guy

886
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:30,280
or a six to six wing. So I do think

887
00:46:30,679 --> 00:46:33,000
the way I talk through this, I probably wasn't strong

888
00:46:33,039 --> 00:46:34,960
on the under before we got on the show, but

889
00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:36,519
just having to look at it and dig into it

890
00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:38,519
and talk through it, I think it makes a ton

891
00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:38,960
of sense.

892
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the show absolutely is always looking to accomplish

893
00:46:43,639 --> 00:46:45,519
that gym. Sometimes you talk it out, you get a

894
00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:48,519
better view. We get different opinions here on the show

895
00:46:48,559 --> 00:46:52,639
that clarify things for un C. I think it's interesting.

896
00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:55,280
I will say this as we look ahead, as we

897
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,199
project ahead to North Carolina hitting the ACC schedule. When

898
00:46:59,199 --> 00:47:01,760
they do, I think we're going to find that teams

899
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,400
are not going to allow them to set up in

900
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,119
that half court offense, not allow them to funnel things

901
00:47:06,159 --> 00:47:09,519
to these six to ten rim protectors. On defense, I

902
00:47:09,559 --> 00:47:13,800
think anybody that plays with pace is going to look

903
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,320
to get fast, easy offense against this team because it's

904
00:47:17,559 --> 00:47:21,480
much easier to score when they're not set up than

905
00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:23,239
it is when they are set up. And again to

906
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,880
your point, unless they have, you know, three Cooper flags

907
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,280
that can run the floor, it's going to be a

908
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,599
slower paced team when you have this type of size.

909
00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:35,320
So obviously North Carolina taking on a different identity here,

910
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,760
but I think as in the upcoming weeks here we

911
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:44,320
can specify situations here against faster paced ACC teams that

912
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,159
might say, you know what, we're not standing for this

913
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,000
setting up against the letting them set up that half

914
00:47:50,039 --> 00:47:53,599
court offense. Florida State comes to mind as a quicker

915
00:47:53,679 --> 00:47:57,639
ACC team where maybe an overplay would be maybe by

916
00:47:57,679 --> 00:47:59,800
that time the odds makers have adjusted toward the under

917
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,920
them catch value with the over we will see that's.

918
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,199
Speaker 3: Rob guess who un C play is in their first

919
00:48:05,199 --> 00:48:06,159
ACC game.

920
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: Florida Florida State. Yeah, and I'll say, you know what,

921
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,800
we may come back to this tape, Jim. We may

922
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,119
have to roll this back in fact, when we see

923
00:48:14,119 --> 00:48:16,320
the number on that game, and if that game does

924
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:21,880
get over all right, it looks like fixer time. Okay,

925
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,800
fixer time. Excellent spelling there. Welcome to the show. Glad

926
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,199
to have you here. Glad you dropped in with a

927
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:32,880
comment here thoughts on the early game between Drexel and Howard. Obviously,

928
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,639
as we stated at the beginning of the show, you

929
00:48:34,679 --> 00:48:38,320
don't see Adam Trigger in the host chair today simply

930
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,920
because he's at that game. Oh wait a minute, by

931
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,679
he wants to drop in. Good morning, Keith. I can't

932
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:47,039
wait to see Trigg on ESPN today hitting the six

933
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,960
seven handwaves with the kids at Trexel. And there's no question,

934
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,519
you know, Trigg seats today because of lack of ticket availability,

935
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,039
our court side. Him and his dad are court side.

936
00:48:59,079 --> 00:49:01,800
So there's a real good shot that the one ESPN

937
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,039
camera that's sent to this game or whatever network it's

938
00:49:05,079 --> 00:49:08,360
being broadcast on, that one camera may catch the front road.

939
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,920
We may see Trigg doing high school. I don't think

940
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,639
we'll see him doing high school thing. He's gonna be

941
00:49:12,679 --> 00:49:19,239
amongst a lot of youngsters here today. Drexel Howard Jim

942
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,400
I often talk. In fact, I had this discussion Sunday

943
00:49:23,679 --> 00:49:31,840
on Wager Talks End Zone Live show where somebody had

944
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,960
a comment in the comments section and they asked, how

945
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,920
do you stop yourself from just spraying the board and

946
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:44,000
playing a zillion games? What's your process? And you know,

947
00:49:44,079 --> 00:49:46,760
when it came my turn to kind of give my

948
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,079
opinion or my handicapping style, I simply said, you know

949
00:49:50,119 --> 00:49:51,599
what I do right off the bat as I go

950
00:49:51,679 --> 00:49:54,920
through the card, and I immediately cross off games that

951
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,159
I don't think I'll have any interest, and whether it

952
00:49:57,199 --> 00:50:01,679
be because at the think that the number is too

953
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,440
close and there's not enough wiggle room to have a

954
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,239
decent play, you have no value in other words, or

955
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,880
whether it be there's an injury that I don't have

956
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,440
a real good read on how to decipher the way

957
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,559
the game will be played, whatever the reason being, I

958
00:50:14,599 --> 00:50:19,239
go through and in my process generally what I'll do

959
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,119
is I'll cross off all games that I don't think

960
00:50:21,199 --> 00:50:23,719
can go over the total. That's the way I handicap.

961
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:25,639
And then I'm left with the rest of the board.

962
00:50:26,119 --> 00:50:29,320
I bring that up because today Drexel Howard was a

963
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,519
game I put the complete red mark through. Don't want

964
00:50:32,519 --> 00:50:36,360
to play it, don't have a good feel for it, obviously,

965
00:50:36,519 --> 00:50:39,679
don't want to lead the audience watching us in a

966
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,119
bad direction because I don't have a feel. But if

967
00:50:42,119 --> 00:50:44,440
you have any thoughts at all on this early game

968
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,159
where our good friend Adam Trigger will be doing the

969
00:50:48,199 --> 00:50:51,280
six to seven chance, go ahead and let us know

970
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:52,400
what you feel on this one.

971
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a policy with these day games where

972
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,039
I have to have a really good reason if I'm

973
00:50:59,039 --> 00:51:01,760
going to back the road to because I think it's

974
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:06,480
just the weekday tip with the young crowd, and in

975
00:51:06,519 --> 00:51:09,559
my anecdotal experience, I don't have the data to back

976
00:51:09,559 --> 00:51:11,519
this up, but I probably love to do the research

977
00:51:11,559 --> 00:51:15,719
on it. But like Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday pre noon tips

978
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,639
have felt so tilted towards home teams over my betting

979
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,960
history over the last seven years or so that I've

980
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,519
been doing this, and I end up on road teams

981
00:51:23,519 --> 00:51:24,880
all the time and I lose, and I'm like, why

982
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,280
do I keep doing this to myself?

983
00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 3: So this one I did.

984
00:51:28,199 --> 00:51:31,519
Speaker 2: Make it slightly higher than the spread here, Like I

985
00:51:31,559 --> 00:51:33,840
make Drexel just a notch above the six and a half.

986
00:51:34,199 --> 00:51:35,079
Speaker 3: I do lean their way.

987
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,079
Speaker 2: Howard's basically got one good offensive player, that's Bryce Harris,

988
00:51:39,199 --> 00:51:40,920
and if you're able to shut him down, and what

989
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,480
he is is a six to four post player, so

990
00:51:43,559 --> 00:51:46,559
he's dominant against bad competition. But if you're playing a

991
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:50,159
team with an actual power forward sized player or a

992
00:51:50,159 --> 00:51:52,679
center that can guard him around the rim, he struggles

993
00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:56,519
to score. That's generally what Drexel has. The concern is

994
00:51:56,559 --> 00:51:58,599
it's probably not gonna be very high paced. Drexel wants

995
00:51:58,639 --> 00:52:00,599
to play in the half court, but I think they

996
00:52:00,599 --> 00:52:02,840
can slow down Harris, and I think they've got enough

997
00:52:03,199 --> 00:52:05,719
pieces offensively. It's not a great offensive team. They didn't

998
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,400
go into the transfer portal much of the offseason, but

999
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,960
I think they've got enough to extend. Just in this weird,

1000
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:15,599
strange early tip spot where it stollily seems to tilt

1001
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:17,679
towards the home team in my experience.

1002
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a definitely an interesting look there with these

1003
00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:26,239
early games. Obviously, when the Saturday card comes, you'll be

1004
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,440
seeing a bunch of noontime starts. Sometimes they're in time

1005
00:52:29,559 --> 00:52:32,679
zones where it becomes eleven am start, ten am start

1006
00:52:33,079 --> 00:52:35,519
and the road team up against it a little bit.

1007
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,519
Let's go ahead to as we try and get a

1008
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:41,519
few in before we have to close here slick, Vic,

1009
00:52:42,519 --> 00:52:44,599
and with us glad to have you here today, Vic.

1010
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,239
Do we lay it with Texas at home tonight in

1011
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,199
a bounce back spot? Texas had a lot of bounced

1012
00:52:53,199 --> 00:52:57,920
back spots, haven't they. It's a team this year that,

1013
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:04,800
now granted, played a pretty solid schedule. For sure, when

1014
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,079
they get into Big twelve, it's going to be a

1015
00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:10,719
little bit different for them. I don't know that they

1016
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,880
have the defensive capability, but as far as tonight's game

1017
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:19,559
is concerned, again, I didn't play here, guys, and I

1018
00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:23,199
am a bounce back guy. I looked at the total here.

1019
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,079
I will say that much real quick this morning with

1020
00:53:26,199 --> 00:53:30,519
an anticipation that maybe I could play over Lemoyne just

1021
00:53:30,679 --> 00:53:35,840
drags so slowly that I couldn't. But I, you know what,

1022
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,480
here's the bottom line to what I handicapped here. I

1023
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:43,559
could see Texas going out and routing Lemoyne. I could

1024
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:47,760
also see Texas not paying much attention to this game,

1025
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,800
even though it is a bounced back spot. They've got

1026
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,280
a couple in a row here, guys, Maryland Eastern Shore

1027
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:57,800
is on deck. These are either games that and let's

1028
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,119
backtrack to Sean Miller here for it a second, because

1029
00:54:01,159 --> 00:54:04,760
the last time we spoke about Texas, it was against Yukon,

1030
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,519
and Sean Miller basically was throwing his team defense under

1031
00:54:09,519 --> 00:54:11,719
the bus and said, if we don't do something about

1032
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,360
this defense, there's no way we're going to be any good.

1033
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,639
I'm paraphrasing, but that was the gist of the comment

1034
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,920
that he made about this team. The defense did show

1035
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:25,840
up fairly well, I would say against Yukon the seventy one,

1036
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,960
somewhat a product of the way Yukon likes to play.

1037
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,800
But Texas hung in and played very very well in

1038
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,760
that game. So you could see a bounce back here.

1039
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,000
But I could see a little disinterest as well. So

1040
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:39,840
for that reason, I'm off of it side in total wise, Jim,

1041
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,519
if you have a better feel for this game, something

1042
00:54:42,599 --> 00:54:44,880
you may or may not bet on this one, go

1043
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:45,639
ahead and let him know.

1044
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,039
Speaker 2: No, not much on the side here. Texas is a

1045
00:54:49,039 --> 00:54:52,559
team I've generally not trusted since the preseason. I predicted

1046
00:54:52,599 --> 00:54:54,639
them to miss the tournament after making it last year,

1047
00:54:54,679 --> 00:54:57,360
and you know, they haven't gotten much of a big

1048
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:58,880
win at all this year. The NC State won and

1049
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,559
Maui is the only thing that looks good. I think

1050
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:03,679
their defensive numbers are skewed by playing in Maui, Like

1051
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:06,800
that is just an offensive paradise with those Rims in

1052
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,159
the small gym. I think that is conducive to a

1053
00:55:09,159 --> 00:55:11,639
lot of efficient scoring. And then they come back and

1054
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,400
Virginia wipes them out by shooting fifty percent from three.

1055
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,599
But I think it's a solid defensive team and I

1056
00:55:16,639 --> 00:55:20,199
think Sean Miller has their attention there. And Yukon obviously

1057
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,119
didn't score at will, and Yukon's a really good offensive team.

1058
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,199
So I actually have a little bit of a lean

1059
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,800
towards the under in this game, even though it's well

1060
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,960
below the ken Pom projected total. Both teams have seen

1061
00:55:32,039 --> 00:55:35,920
some unlucky three point shooting. Texas has given up over

1062
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,760
thirty six percent from three, Lamoyne over forty one percent

1063
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,840
from three. I think that comes down a little bit.

1064
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,840
I think the disinterest shows up. The disinterest you mentioned

1065
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,559
shows up a little bit in pace, and this game

1066
00:55:46,599 --> 00:55:49,199
is kind of slower ugly, especially in the second half.

1067
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,480
Just kind of let's just get to the end and

1068
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,280
I think it stays under the total.

1069
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: All right, So here we go. We have about four

1070
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,760
minutes till we have to close, and we have a

1071
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,400
hard out here on full press as we give way

1072
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,280
to our Chyle League, Andrew McGuinness and the Wager Talk

1073
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,280
Hockey Show. But Jim, we're gonna put you on the

1074
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,159
spot now to convert a leg of the parlay for us.

1075
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,480
Mine is in go ahead and give a short leg

1076
00:56:11,519 --> 00:56:12,639
of the parlay for today.

1077
00:56:13,199 --> 00:56:14,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a game we already discussed.

1078
00:56:14,639 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 2: I hope that's all right, But I'm gonna go with

1079
00:56:16,519 --> 00:56:19,000
South Carolina plus twelve and a half. I just I

1080
00:56:19,079 --> 00:56:21,320
like the number there, I like the spot. I like

1081
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:22,840
to match up with the way. I don't think it

1082
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,760
gets up and down in a rival that's not going

1083
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,639
to go away, even if they get down ten early.

1084
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,679
I think South Carolina is the type of team that

1085
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,199
can battle back there. I saw a couple of people

1086
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:33,920
in the chat that were interested in the game. Cock,

1087
00:56:34,039 --> 00:56:35,360
so hey, let's get it done.

1088
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

1089
00:56:36,519 --> 00:56:39,599
Speaker 2: South Carolina is also covered three straight against Clemson. That

1090
00:56:39,679 --> 00:56:41,519
matters a little bit to me, since it's the same

1091
00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:46,239
coach on both sides, I think Paris maybe has not solved,

1092
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,519
but he at least knows how to prepare for Clemson

1093
00:56:48,559 --> 00:56:50,760
and the size and the rebounding that they bring to

1094
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,159
the table. So with that number up in the double

1095
00:56:53,199 --> 00:56:56,519
figures and the historical trends on that matchup, I think

1096
00:56:56,559 --> 00:56:58,519
South Carolina is a really good look as a road

1097
00:56:58,519 --> 00:56:59,880
dog there getting twelve and a half.

1098
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: And for those who are interested, you can dial back.

1099
00:57:04,519 --> 00:57:09,320
I know time stamps will be attached to the show today.

1100
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,360
You can dial back to the beginning of the show

1101
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,760
where we both discuss this game, provided our analysis of it,

1102
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,440
and you just have Jim's added analysis there. Why he's

1103
00:57:18,559 --> 00:57:21,559
on South Carolina plus twelve and a half. Let me

1104
00:57:21,639 --> 00:57:24,000
go ahead and take this time real quick just to

1105
00:57:24,079 --> 00:57:27,280
recap what will be a two team parlay tonight. We

1106
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:32,800
don't have a leg from Trigg today simply because in.

1107
00:57:33,159 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 4: Trigg said he likes Maris seven and a half. Let

1108
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,400
me just throw it in there. He texted me separately

1109
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,159
and he said, if we're doing a parlay Maris plus

1110
00:57:41,199 --> 00:57:43,920
seven and a half, no analysis. I'm sure he's sent

1111
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,239
it while driving, but Maris seven and a half for

1112
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:47,360
treg There you go.

1113
00:57:48,239 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: There you go, guys. Our producer Dan Alexander jumps in

1114
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,599
to give us the latest info. Adam trigger on Maris

1115
00:57:54,599 --> 00:57:56,239
plus seven and a half. So let's go ahead and

1116
00:57:56,239 --> 00:57:59,039
do the recap here. Trigg will have to do without

1117
00:57:59,079 --> 00:58:01,280
his analysis today, but I can tell you if it's

1118
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:05,119
coming from that conference, he's got something in depth reasons

1119
00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:07,880
why he likes Merit plus seven and a half. That's

1120
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,079
the first leg. Go to Jim who provided us with

1121
00:58:11,199 --> 00:58:14,239
South Carolina against Clemson here plus to twelve and a

1122
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,239
half in that in state rivalry, and then close it out.

1123
00:58:18,559 --> 00:58:21,760
I myself am on Montana State at cal Poly slow

1124
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,199
over one fifty nine and a half, three team, or

1125
00:58:25,199 --> 00:58:27,000
I'll let Adam do the math. I won't do it

1126
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,480
now because I want to take the final ninety seconds

1127
00:58:29,559 --> 00:58:32,079
or whatever. We have to thank Jim Root for filling

1128
00:58:32,119 --> 00:58:35,679
in today so admirably giving us coverage on this show.

1129
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,480
Jim once again, go ahead and tell the folks where

1130
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,800
they can find your work. And guys, you do want

1131
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,000
to go ahead and visit and see what Jim has

1132
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:43,440
to offer.

1133
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, please do.

1134
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 2: I've got the three man We've podcast I do with

1135
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,440
Matt and Kai. We've been doing that for a decade.

1136
00:58:50,199 --> 00:58:53,559
Typically comes out on Friday mornings because of our schedules,

1137
00:58:53,559 --> 00:58:55,599
but we talk about, you know, the week. It was

1138
00:58:55,639 --> 00:58:57,920
a little bit of previous section. We've got a Saturday

1139
00:58:58,159 --> 00:59:00,840
betting show that I know Adam I think probably plugged

1140
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,920
on the show before. He's always been really kind about

1141
00:59:03,199 --> 00:59:07,000
talking us up. We talk about the Saturday slate and

1142
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,480
then also Basket under Review. It's ten dollars a month

1143
00:59:09,559 --> 00:59:12,719
for all kinds of written content. There's the Discord where

1144
00:59:12,719 --> 00:59:15,599
we talk about betting every single day. There's really really

1145
00:59:15,639 --> 00:59:19,320
good resource for college basketball fans, betters alike. I think

1146
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,280
it's a great place to be, a great place to

1147
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,519
discuss within that discord. There's good channels in there for teams.

1148
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,519
You got Jordan Majeski dropping in with injury news every

1149
00:59:27,519 --> 00:59:29,320
once in a while, and that really helps because he's

1150
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,119
so well sourced. So I highly encourage people doing that.

1151
00:59:32,159 --> 00:59:35,280
I think it's a bargain and that's a big one. Oh,

1152
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,000
I've got another podcast over there too. That's what I

1153
00:59:37,039 --> 00:59:40,280
was doing before we recorded this. Stats by Will and Jim.

1154
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,840
Will Warren and I go back and forth talking about

1155
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,840
stats from the week that was in college hoops. So

1156
00:59:45,199 --> 00:59:47,280
check that out as well. That's free for everybody on

1157
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:48,679
wherever you get your podcasts.

1158
00:59:49,559 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: Guys, go ahead and give Jim a look. As I

1159
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,480
close out here, I just want to remind everybody it

1160
00:59:53,559 --> 00:59:57,360
is five dollars Tuesday over at wager Talk all handycappers

1161
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,719
a five dollars release. Go ahead and visit if you

1162
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,840
haven't before. Great time to get involved. Like to say

1163
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,079
thank you everybody for joining us here today. That'll do

1164
01:00:05,119 --> 01:00:07,239
it for Full Court Press. We'll see you tomorrow for

1165
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,199
Wednesday's college basketball card.