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Speaker 2: A lot going on.
Speaker 3: We're continuing to update that to Middle East Deal, which
Speaker 3: now looks as though it might be voted upon by
Speaker 3: the Israel kinesset. I guess tomorrow after a pause in things,
Speaker 3: but we'll talk about that.
Speaker 2: We'll go back.
Speaker 1: Around the Hecklers who went after Anthony Blincoln today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the state procressor.
Speaker 3: How do you get into a state department briefing to
Speaker 3: you know, to heckle and usually that's only open to
Speaker 3: credentialed reporters.
Speaker 2: It's a weird thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the question I have.
Speaker 2: But back to the fires and a compelling story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you, thank goodness no new growth on the
Speaker 1: eating fire, but we know the damage that it has
Speaker 1: left behind. And we hear about, you know, this person
Speaker 1: lost a home, this person lost a home, and then
Speaker 1: we're hearing this family lost four homes, a son and kids,
Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. And that's one of
Speaker 1: these cases. With Steven Sippio, he's a live flong Altadena
Speaker 1: resident and his parents have been there for fifty three years.
Speaker 1: They lost their home and the home where Steven's kids
Speaker 1: were living with their mother. They lost their home, and
Speaker 1: Stephen really was their hero in that he got everyone evacuated,
Speaker 1: so everyone lived to tell That's the most important piece
Speaker 1: to this. But such an emotional story. Stephen Sipio is
Speaker 1: on the line right now. Steven. Good to have you.
Speaker 4: Hey, Marlin, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: I did my best to summarize your ordeal that transpired
Speaker 1: last week. Why don't you tell the people what you
Speaker 1: just went through?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, as you as you describe it, you
Speaker 4: did a great job. But it's like people tell me
Speaker 4: a little bit about grief and that it's going to
Speaker 4: come in waves, and I can't hear you describe that,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean without getting emotional, because that
Speaker 4: is exactly what happened. Yeah, so we're just, you know,
Speaker 4: we're moving forward. I was fortunate enough to get my
Speaker 4: parents out and get my children and their mom out
Speaker 4: after there was a delay there till about two thirty
Speaker 4: in the morning when the smoke was completely covering the house,
Speaker 4: and then we rushed out, got them to safety, got
Speaker 4: to bed about four am. Woke up about seven. I
Speaker 4: couldn't sleep and then I just had to drive to Altadena.
Speaker 4: I drove up and I just saw Mayhem. Like I've
Speaker 4: showed you guys videos, It's just everything is on fire.
Speaker 4: You can't see the sky, the smoke. It looks like midnight,
Speaker 4: but it's you know, nine o'clock in the morning. It's
Speaker 4: just it was just nothing. And you know.
Speaker 2: I'm just the devastation. The devastation was complete and no.
Speaker 1: And Mark, I want you to know this because I
Speaker 1: forgot to include this in his introduction as that Stephen
Speaker 1: is a filmmaker and so he documented everything with the
Speaker 1: evacuation and the aftermath. It's an incredible video.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Wow, Well I've got a season with that, and when
Speaker 3: it's posted online and when you put it all together,
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously they are different priorities now, but I
Speaker 3: want to take you back to this because I don't
Speaker 3: know the story and I find it compelling.
Speaker 2: So what was going on?
Speaker 3: Take me into the moments when you first decided to evacuate.
Speaker 3: What will you talk about the smoke, et cetera. I'm
Speaker 3: curious about Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 4: I was. I was visiting my children at the mom's
Speaker 4: house in Alta, Dina on Raymond and Wapello and my
Speaker 4: son comes.
Speaker 2: To me and said, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Guys comes to me.
Speaker 4: He says, he says, Dad, the sky is red. And
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, right, and then so I go to
Speaker 4: the window and I'm like, oh, shoot, it is red.
Speaker 4: And then his mom is like, yeah, there's a fire.
Speaker 4: And then we've had fires in Altadena before, so she
Speaker 4: casually brushes it off. And then I do my part,
Speaker 4: what what are in my instincts? And I drive up
Speaker 4: to the highest point in Altadena to see what I
Speaker 4: can see get to buy a park, Farnsworth Park where
Speaker 4: I trained my kids at on Lake Street, and I
Speaker 4: just see a bunch of sheriff officers and fire vehicles,
Speaker 4: but no fire engines. And then I talked to one
Speaker 4: of the sheriffs and he said, yeah, just you got
Speaker 4: to just try and get down the hill. This is
Speaker 4: before it even came close to us. And then I
Speaker 4: went down and I went to tell my parents, and
Speaker 4: my dad was getting in bed, and ironically, when I
Speaker 4: was pulling up, his eighty five year old neighbor was,
Speaker 4: you know, making his way over to their house to
Speaker 4: tell them that they're going to evacuate because they're hearing
Speaker 4: it's pretty serious. So I said, I got this, mister hillstock,
Speaker 4: I go inside and get my parents up, get them together,
Speaker 4: and get them down to Pasadena to a hotel. And
Speaker 4: then I rushed back up to tell the mother of
Speaker 4: my kids and that we need to leave. And then
Speaker 4: she doesn't want to, like she's not taking it that
Speaker 4: serious because we kind of had seen this before. And
Speaker 4: then so I kind of get a little agitated, and
Speaker 4: she just like was like, get out. So and when
Speaker 4: that's the drama within the drama.
Speaker 1: Right, because a lot of people don't want to leave,
Speaker 1: She's not the only one. And you literally sat in
Speaker 1: your car and on guard in front of the house.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, And I was on the opposite side of
Speaker 4: the street because that's how I could see the fire
Speaker 4: on the actual mountain. And then I just watched it
Speaker 4: like I went to sleep and and a car would
Speaker 4: go by and I would I would wake up and
Speaker 4: be like an hour later and fast forward to I
Speaker 4: watched the fire crawl across the hill until it was
Speaker 4: directly in front of us, and I have footage of
Speaker 4: this and everything. And then after I saw the fire,
Speaker 4: the fire went away, and then the smoke stream had
Speaker 4: overtaken our street, so I couldn't see the fire, but
Speaker 4: I knew it was burning, and I just knew it
Speaker 4: was time. And they were coincidentally coming out the house
Speaker 4: when I was getting out of the car to like
Speaker 4: I was going to break that door down if I
Speaker 4: had to, and because I didn't know if they were
Speaker 4: sleeping or whatever. And and then I got them down
Speaker 4: the hill, and then that's what I you know, you
Speaker 4: say around four in Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: That's an extraordinary story. It really is.
Speaker 3: I mean, the notion that you would park out front
Speaker 3: knowing that the threat was so imminent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, it was never I was there was never
Speaker 4: and I couldn't set an alarm for like when I
Speaker 4: wanted to wake up. It was just like, it was
Speaker 4: never a moment in my life that I was going
Speaker 4: to allow them to be there and me to be
Speaker 4: somewhere else. How old are your kids? I had My
Speaker 4: daughter's fourteen and my son is eight.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: And my son's school burned down. It was like a
Speaker 4: couple of blocks of North Alma out to his school
Speaker 4: burned down.
Speaker 2: Where are the kids now? Where is everybody now?
Speaker 4: So they're with their mom. We're going from Airbnb to Airbnb, which.
Speaker 1: Is a reality for so many people.
Speaker 4: You did have insurance, right, Stephen, Yes, yes, my parents
Speaker 4: had insurance and they're dealing with that whole situation. But
Speaker 4: it's kind of it's kind of weird, like when people
Speaker 4: ask me how can they and what go fund me?
Speaker 4: You know, it's kind of like three families. It's like,
Speaker 4: you know, my children and their mom. It's like me
Speaker 4: and my children, we both do for them equally, and
Speaker 4: then it's my parents.
Speaker 3: Sure generation and that so much of that community is
Speaker 3: filled with this sort of story, I mean, with as
Speaker 3: you say, generational connections. Uh, Stephens, thank you God. I
Speaker 3: find it. It's such a compelling story. And it's not over.
Speaker 3: I mean, are you going to stay in Altadena? Do
Speaker 3: you think when you build back?
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no chance. I mean if you had a
Speaker 4: chance to, like, you know, be in this community and
Speaker 4: see these people and just know that how diverse it
Speaker 4: was and how calm. Like I've been I'm well traveled,
Speaker 4: so I've been like to the New York and I've
Speaker 4: been to the small towns in the South, and like
Speaker 4: I've seen it all. And I lived in Badnor's, Louisiana
Speaker 4: for two years and like I've come back home to Altadena,
Speaker 4: Like there's no felt so good, you know, no place.
Speaker 1: Like home, No place like home.
Speaker 3: Listen, I'm going to reach out to you separately because
Speaker 3: I want to get you on my show on YouTube
Speaker 3: and show some of your footage and hear more about
Speaker 3: your story. And I'll look forward to talking to you
Speaker 3: more and following your progress even in building back in Altadena.
Speaker 2: Is that cool? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Thank you guys so much for just signing a little
Speaker 4: light on our town.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow, Steven Sippio, thank you for joining us at KOFI. Wow,
Speaker 3: what day story. You know, these charities that are emerging
Speaker 3: associated with the fires and trying to support so many
Speaker 3: who are displaced.
Speaker 1: There's so many charities, and there's a whole lot of
Speaker 1: scammers out there.
Speaker 3: I guess that's what I'm trying to figure out, because
Speaker 3: today at the press conference, they had said that the
Speaker 3: Firefighter Relief Fund hadn't yet been set up, and.
Speaker 1: They actually made this point yesterday they said, look, we're
Speaker 1: hearing from so many of you who want to donate
Speaker 1: to Ellie County Fire or even of course LAFD, all
Speaker 1: the agencies to help support our look firefighters and Maroney
Speaker 1: the chief of La County Fire said yesterday, we just
Speaker 1: haven't organized that yet, so we don't have a direct fund.
Speaker 1: So maybe you've given money, but it's not necessarily linked
Speaker 1: to us officially. He made the point today, but he
Speaker 1: did say that there's a little bit of progress in that.
Speaker 5: Yesterday, the Los Angeles County Fire Department made good progress
Speaker 5: towards partnering with a reputable five OHO one C three
Speaker 5: that we'll be able to accept cash checks and electronic
Speaker 5: donations for the Los Angeles County Fire Department. I ask
Speaker 5: interested donors to be patient as we finalize our donation process,
Speaker 5: and I thank you for wanting to support our brave
Speaker 5: Los Angeles County Fire Department firefighters.
Speaker 1: So keyword reputable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're are already a long list of charities,
Speaker 3: and I'm just does that mean that they are not reputable?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: Not necessarily exactly, yes, So it's very hard to distinguish.
Speaker 2: So you end up I think gravitating toward U. Two things.
Speaker 3: I would say, One, charities that you know, I mean
Speaker 3: things that you have confidence on to say, salage and
Speaker 3: army argument across exactly. I mean Jimmy Kimmel, I think
Speaker 3: posted I want to say it was the it's the
Speaker 3: World Kitchen Charity essocially, Yeah, done so, so you know
Speaker 3: that that's you know, that's a solid charity. But beyond that,
Speaker 3: there are lists of their animal charities, and there are
Speaker 3: many other charities to support first responders and and and
Speaker 3: their families. And you question, and I'm leaving out the
Speaker 3: myriad of go fund me offerings. I mean, there are
Speaker 3: stories after story after story of go fund me a
Speaker 3: posts that will tell you a tale and you'll just
Speaker 3: want to empty your pockets to try to help these people.
Speaker 3: And I don't know, I guess GoFundMe do they vet
Speaker 3: these stories or you can pretty much tell whatever story
Speaker 3: you want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's a great question. The vetting process
Speaker 1: at GoFundMe the other thing to think about. And Supervisor
Speaker 1: Barger was on this, you need to get a follow
Speaker 1: up on it. But when you make a GoFundMe donation,
Speaker 1: it comes with a price. You have to pay a fee. Sure,
Speaker 1: So Supervisor Barger was trying to make a five hundred
Speaker 1: dollars donation to a friend impacted by the fires, and
Speaker 1: the fee for her five hundred dollars donation was ninety
Speaker 1: five dollars, and so she reached out to the head
Speaker 1: of gofund me to say, hey, can we waive these
Speaker 1: fees for right now? Sure, I mean, there are thousands
Speaker 1: of go Fundme pages anyway, but now tack on the
Speaker 1: devastation that we're seeing here in southern California, and we
Speaker 1: shouldn't have to be paying all of these fees just
Speaker 1: trying to help somebody else.
Speaker 3: Well, I understand that you've got to pay a fee
Speaker 3: to a platform. I mean I understand or that when
Speaker 3: I say you've got to, I mean that these platforms
Speaker 3: generally designate some part of your donation that goes to
Speaker 3: the fee of maintaining the platform. The platforms are valuable
Speaker 3: and it's helpful if you can support them, but as
Speaker 3: you say, sometimes the fees are just ridiculously high.
Speaker 1: Yeah, astronomical. So in this case, she's not saying to
Speaker 1: waive the fees forever, but can we at least decrease
Speaker 1: them during this time of crisis.
Speaker 3: And so all of this coexists with the opportunism that
Speaker 3: comes with these moments of crisis that happens in hurricanes,
Speaker 3: and it's happened now in these fires. So I'm really
Speaker 3: interested to see when these firefighter relief funds get powered up,
Speaker 3: and as you say, with a reputable organization, the La
Speaker 3: County Fire Chief is making that point and so we
Speaker 3: can actually support those men and women who we are.
Speaker 2: So grateful to.
Speaker 3: I do to talk about the super Scooper aircraft, you know, Marlo,
Speaker 3: we want to cover why we don't buy them, you know,
Speaker 3: we lease them on ninety days cycles, and we'll get
Speaker 3: into that next as we continue. It's interesting because as
Speaker 3: we fight these fires, and they have to be fought
Speaker 3: specifically from the air, the questions as to what kind
Speaker 3: of aircraft you get, whether you lease, whether you buy
Speaker 3: these become super relevant and we'll get into some of
Speaker 3: that next.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're also going to talk about the other sad
Speaker 1: element to all these fires, and that is missing pets.
Speaker 1: So many pets have gone missing because of the fires.
Speaker 1: But we have a great organization who's doing wonderful things
Speaker 1: to reunite pets and owners.
Speaker 3: And now there's one number you can call a clearing
Speaker 3: house for those owners who are trying to find their
Speaker 3: pets or describe where the pet is lost. So all
Speaker 3: of that is still to come. We're just kind of
Speaker 3: we're fillers. Well, there's that because you're rap we're wrapping.
Speaker 3: There's no question that's true. We're just wrapping up a
Speaker 3: lot of fire stuff, loose ends on fire, and these
Speaker 3: are loose ends that will continue. There are questions about
Speaker 3: First of all, there's stuff that's happening now which we
Speaker 3: continue to update, and I'll give you just one example
Speaker 3: of that. There are now centralized numbers for those who
Speaker 3: are missing animals and if you've found a stray animal.
Speaker 3: Now the city has a central number. This is La City.
Speaker 3: That number is two one three two seven zero eighty
Speaker 3: one fifty five. Again two one three, two seven, zero
Speaker 3: eighty one fifty five, So that's a sort of centralized number.
Speaker 3: And there's also a number for Altadena for the eaten
Speaker 3: fire orphaned animals. Should you find one, should you be
Speaker 3: missing one six two six five, seven, seven thirty seven
Speaker 3: fifty two six two six. I have seven, seven, thirty
Speaker 3: seven fifty two. So those numbers, and we'll give them
Speaker 3: to you again before the end of the show.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, And in addition to that, coming up
Speaker 1: in the next hour, we have joining us somebody from
Speaker 1: a service called Love Lost. They've been around before the
Speaker 1: fires started This is a Petco organization. We're familiar with Petco,
Speaker 1: but they reunite pets, lost pets and owners and how
Speaker 1: they do it is really very cool. It's high tech
Speaker 1: and they've had seventy five thousand reunions already and they've
Speaker 1: already had several and that's in its history in four years,
Speaker 1: but they've already had several. As it relates to the
Speaker 1: fire zone. So the executive director of that service will
Speaker 1: be joining us in the next hour.
Speaker 3: So many emotional stories related to animals. When you see
Speaker 3: them reunited, it's like, oh, it's instant.
Speaker 2: Choking, I know.
Speaker 1: And then the little ones that have you know, suffered
Speaker 1: burns and they're.
Speaker 3: There's some brutal, brutal realities that have followed everything.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 3: The question that is often asked is how come we
Speaker 3: don't have super scoopers?
Speaker 2: Why do we lease them? Why don't we in California
Speaker 2: own them?
Speaker 3: And the answers are interesting because superscoopers are obviously capable
Speaker 3: of picking up these immense quantities of water fifteen hundred
Speaker 3: gallons of water from large bodies of water like the ocean,
Speaker 3: and we're right alongside. And the minute they got involved
Speaker 3: in everything that we've been dealing with. It was something
Speaker 3: that changed the entire landscape immediately, but.
Speaker 1: Not for long though, because they were seen in the
Speaker 1: first day of the firefight. We have two on loan
Speaker 1: from Canada, and then the winds were just too treacherous
Speaker 1: that they had to land. And then and they did
Speaker 1: go up again, one of them got shot by a
Speaker 1: drone or got hit struck by a drone and damaged
Speaker 1: the wing.
Speaker 3: So but again, when they're up though, they are total
Speaker 3: game changer. It's just yeah, then they're grounded based on
Speaker 3: conditions generally, So what tends to happen in California is
Speaker 3: that we favor helicopter involvement. Helicopters are good for tactical
Speaker 3: stuff from what I understand. In other words, they can
Speaker 3: put out fires in very sort of pinpoint ways. Plus
Speaker 3: the buckets can pick up water from a lot of
Speaker 3: different places. They don't need to the scoopers need to
Speaker 3: go over a larger body of water. They have to
Speaker 3: keep moving, if you will, you were describing this yesterday,
Speaker 3: I think it was yesterday, and the days run together.
Speaker 3: But the helicopters, their buckets can just even pick up
Speaker 3: water out of a pool, so they are able to
Speaker 3: quickly respond, but obviously don't drop as much water as
Speaker 3: you can get from a super school.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we can also access places that are harder
Speaker 1: to reach, more so than the Super Scooper. So that's
Speaker 1: why the California's State Fire Marshal says helicopters do just
Speaker 1: find for US plus and the feet they have for
Speaker 1: all of California. They have a diverse arsenal firefighting tools,
Speaker 1: including twenty three air tankers that do carry up to
Speaker 1: twelve hundred gallons of water mixed with fire retardant. So
Speaker 1: there are we do have tools in our tool box
Speaker 1: that do carry and even exceed the Super Scoopers sixteen
Speaker 1: hundred gallons or fifteen hundred gallons. But still the question remains,
Speaker 1: why not just have our own? Why do we have
Speaker 1: to do this ninety day increment? And I was pretty
Speaker 1: struck to read that there are only one hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty Super Scoopers in the entire world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an extraordinary thing.
Speaker 3: They're used in Europe and I think they're built in Canada,
Speaker 3: and their distribution to the world is such that it
Speaker 3: is sort of covering you wide areas of the world.
Speaker 2: With a very small number of these.
Speaker 1: Things, and there are there's been basically one model. They
Speaker 1: haven't really changed the model. It's worked, and so why
Speaker 1: try to fix what's not broken. And there's not a
Speaker 1: lot of alternatives to Super Scoopers, so much so that
Speaker 1: tech startups are trying to race right now to build bigger,
Speaker 1: more powerful fire fighting drones, but most are still under development.
Speaker 1: So the Super Scooper it is a premiere aircraft for
Speaker 1: these special missions, but it doesn't seem that the US
Speaker 1: has any plans to buy their own. It's an interesting
Speaker 1: question given that we used to have wildfire season, and
Speaker 1: essentially it's wildfire season at least nine months out of
Speaker 1: the year here.
Speaker 3: And by the way, the fires that we're playing out
Speaker 3: here in southern California and in California generally, it's being
Speaker 3: played out across the world.
Speaker 2: Look at Australia, look at Europe.
Speaker 3: I mean, these are fires that are burning hotter, longer,
Speaker 3: and over much bigger areas than ever before in modern history.
Speaker 3: So these Superscoopers are in demand. And as you say,
Speaker 3: tech startups are trying to build bigger and more powerful
Speaker 3: firefighting drones typically is what they're looking at.
Speaker 2: But that will take take a very very long time.
Speaker 3: So with all this demand around the world, again, California
Speaker 3: leases these in ninety day cycles and that's worked for us.
Speaker 3: We'll have to see moving forward whether we want to
Speaker 3: invest in the technologies associated with having super scoopers ready
Speaker 3: to go all the time. As you say, it's a
Speaker 3: year round thing, but as it sits now, it's more
Speaker 3: cost effective for California just to lease them.
Speaker 1: I don't know the price tag though for the ninety days.
Speaker 3: I don't see anything on the price tag, and in
Speaker 3: all of the different materials that I'm looking at, I
Speaker 3: don't see anything on but we're actually paying I mean,
Speaker 3: that's a knowable thing. But you know there's a lot
Speaker 3: made of the environmental side of this there, meaning you know,
Speaker 3: when you scoop up salt water and you have this
Speaker 3: high salinity water that's being dropped on vegetation, it can
Speaker 3: damage the vegetation below. Much is made of that. I
Speaker 3: don't know if that really holds water, if you'll part
Speaker 3: of the expression, because I mean, if you look at
Speaker 3: hurricanes and you look at the East Coast, they can
Speaker 3: be inundated in any of these areas by floods. As
Speaker 3: a result of hurricanes, and yet vegetation grows back.
Speaker 1: Sure, and I guess it's the lesser of two evils. Perhaps.
Speaker 1: We interviewed a global security expert for retired not former Marla,
Speaker 1: retired marine intelligence officer, who talked about that and talked
Speaker 1: about the fact that the salt water it erodes. So
Speaker 1: if it's not just on the land, if it's on
Speaker 1: your car and all of that, If on your home,
Speaker 1: that can do damage as well. And the mixture that
Speaker 1: most of our aircraft use is a fire retardant mixed
Speaker 1: with water, and that is reportedly supposed to be environmentally friendly,
Speaker 1: and it allows the vegetation to grow back quicker than
Speaker 1: salt water, if you will. So you know, who knows.
Speaker 3: I'm going to find out though during this break how
Speaker 3: much we pay in California for because I don't know
Speaker 3: why we don't have that information.
Speaker 2: We have all this information about super scoopers.
Speaker 3: But in any case, we're on a lease program every
Speaker 3: ninety days, and frankly, the super scoopers seem appropriately used
Speaker 3: and appropriate in number, you know, just to put a
Speaker 3: button on that question of the super scoopers.
Speaker 1: How much they cost?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the information is a little tough to come by,
Speaker 3: so you can find quotes on it from twenty sixteen,
Speaker 3: and those quotes are around thirty five million. I saw
Speaker 3: thirty seven million for a super Scooper. But again that's
Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen, and you're paying again, these figures are
Speaker 3: now but almost a decade old. Five and a half
Speaker 3: million just for a handful of the autumn months to
Speaker 3: have them up. Five and a half million bucks.
Speaker 1: And that's for the ninety day lease exactly.
Speaker 3: And then the county also pays eleven hundred dollars an
Speaker 3: hour to operate them. Now, again, these figures are from
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen. I couldn't find anything more contemporary than that.
Speaker 1: Well, you'd think that they have done the math that
Speaker 1: it's more cost effective to loan them for three months. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but again times change. And this is to your point,
Speaker 1: almost ten years ago. And now wildfire season, as it
Speaker 1: has been for a long time, is basically year round.
Speaker 1: So is it worth it for us to buy a
Speaker 1: forty million dollar aircraft to have at our disposal any time?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And by the way, you need more than one,
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the all right eighty million.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. So I mean, fortunately there's just nothing but
Speaker 3: money to spend. So yeah, plenty of money to go around.
Speaker 3: Updating the Israel Hamas ceasefire. There was a delayed cabinet
Speaker 3: vote on this ceasefire in Gaza. President or Prime Minister,
Speaker 3: I guess he is. Netan Yahoo in Israel was saying
Speaker 3: that Hamas has renegged on parts of the agreement. And
Speaker 3: so this is a very fragile agreement and it's really
Speaker 3: played out as such because now it looked to be
Speaker 3: in doubt. I think they now agree they are going
Speaker 3: to vote on it tomorrow.
Speaker 1: So it's been especially just pushed back a day exactly,
Speaker 1: and specifically Net and Yahoo was saying that Hamas was
Speaker 1: seeking to dictate which Palestinian prisoners should be released in
Speaker 1: exchange for Israeli hostages, and that was hit. That was
Speaker 1: Hamas reneging. According to a net Yahoo.
Speaker 3: Apparently Hamas is sort of wanting their top dogs released,
Speaker 3: and net and Yahoo is saying, you don't get to
Speaker 3: dictate the terms of you know, who was released. On
Speaker 3: some level, that's a major reducto on what was going on.
Speaker 3: But that's the kind of thing that's informing the problem.
Speaker 3: So Anthony Blincoln was at a press conference during which
Speaker 3: he was heckled really by a couple of activists, and
Speaker 3: it sounded like this, Finally, I just wanted to shore
Speaker 3: this morning.
Speaker 6: Get your hands off me, Get your hands off me,
Speaker 6: Get your hands off me, answer a damn question.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So obviously when he's saying get your hands off me,
Speaker 3: he had asked a question. He kept shouting it and
Speaker 3: it was being ignored.
Speaker 6: Get your hands off me, Get your hands off me,
Speaker 6: Get your hands off me, answer.
Speaker 2: A damn question. I look forward to answering questions.
Speaker 6: And you know, not a real snipletar weapons everybody from
Speaker 6: the icy Jake. I was sitting here quietly, and now
Speaker 6: I'm being manhandled by two or three people. You're in
Speaker 6: pontificate about a free press. You pontificate about a free press.
Speaker 6: You're hurting me.
Speaker 1: You're hurting me.
Speaker 2: You are hurting me.
Speaker 6: I've been asking questions after being total Please Matt Miller
Speaker 6: that he will not answer my questions.
Speaker 3: That's how I ad please, sir, respectively, respect the process.
Speaker 2: We'll have an opportunity to take questions in two minutes.
Speaker 6: What's at the point of the Hey, the May thirty
Speaker 6: first statements have blocked the ICJ orders.
Speaker 2: He blocked the ICJ orders. Please sir, respect the process.
Speaker 6: Thank you, respect the process. Respective process.
Speaker 7: Everybody, everybody from the from EMS internationals, from the ICY
Speaker 7: day saying that is well doing tenn aside an extermination
Speaker 7: and you're telling me to respect the process.
Speaker 1: Criminal. Why aren't you with the hey?
Speaker 5: Why aren't you with the hey?
Speaker 1: Why aren't you with that?
Speaker 3: So there is uh, you know, these questions that surround us,
Speaker 3: I think have to do with credential press. I would
Speaker 3: think a state department pressure has only credential press people.
Speaker 2: But these people work credentials.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, and you know their identity.
Speaker 2: We know Max Blumenthal who is one of them.
Speaker 3: He's an activist and uh, the other is a Jordanian journalist.
Speaker 3: I believe Max is an American And.
Speaker 1: And ultimately when you're hearing his voice get quieter and
Speaker 1: quieter as he's shouting, he's escorted out.
Speaker 3: So yes, it's it would seem one of those situations
Speaker 3: where there was a briefing going on and he's shouting
Speaker 3: questions during the briefing, so you know, he's not waiting
Speaker 3: for the Q and A period, right.
Speaker 1: And Blaken's saying, you can ask all the questions you
Speaker 1: want I don't know if he's necessarily saying that, but
Speaker 1: you can ask a question once I'm done briefing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, now to be fair. And when I say
Speaker 3: to be fair, I mean just when you know, in
Speaker 3: the fullness of the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Obviously, this is a viral moment. We just played it.
Speaker 3: It's being carried by a lot of other news organizations probably,
Speaker 3: And so to the extent that activists like Max and
Speaker 3: others when I say Max, like I know him. I've
Speaker 3: never met him, Max Blumenthal, but the I just know
Speaker 3: who he is. But that these people could be successful
Speaker 3: in making their points. I mean in a way he
Speaker 3: was successful.
Speaker 1: Right on dred percent. If it bleeds, it leads, right.
Speaker 1: So this is the moment in the blanken pressor and
Speaker 1: the briefing today that is now going to be the headline.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at least one of them. Look, there's a lot
Speaker 3: involved in this agreement. It's not just releasing prisoner's prisoner exchange.
Speaker 3: There's a ceasefire involved, there is land involved.
Speaker 1: It's a two phase agreement which could take.
Speaker 3: Months exactly exactly, and so there are many opportunities during
Speaker 3: this entire process for things to fall apart. So this
Speaker 3: fragile agreement. It's huge that it's happened. But the idea
Speaker 3: somehow that you know, it's a lead pipe singe to continue.
Speaker 3: I think it is not necessarily the case.
Speaker 1: But Blinkeln said, it's not exactly surprising that in a
Speaker 1: process and a negotiation that has been this challenging and
Speaker 1: this fraught, you may get a loose end or tying
Speaker 1: up that loose end as we speak, So he's referring
Speaker 1: to it as just that a loose end.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it may be a loose end, but
Speaker 3: there it's a pretty heavy duty loose end.
Speaker 1: So but in other words, he's downplaying it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, would do better, which is what a diplomat should do.
Speaker 3: You know that you'd expect that from the Secretary of State.
Speaker 3: The net and yahoo government and cabinet does vote on
Speaker 3: the agreement, though, that perhaps is the thing to focus on.
Speaker 2: That will happen tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Let's say it's expected to happen tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that might be a more appropriate way to frame it.
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