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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for checking out Going Deeper.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Matt. I've got a great show planning

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<v Speaker 1>for you tonight. You'll know my guest tonight from her

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<v Speaker 1>appearances on websites such as bangbros dot com and the

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<v Speaker 1>slightly last less ambiguous Gangbangcreampie dot com. You can find

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<v Speaker 1>links to all of our social media and the episode

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<v Speaker 1>description below, but I want to recommend you check out

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<v Speaker 1>her only fans at Channy Crossfire. Ladies and gentlemen join

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<v Speaker 1>me in welcoming the very sexy Channy Crossfire channing. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>Coast?

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<v Speaker 1>What part California? We're at California? Yeah, all right, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you good evening as well? Uh? Are you originally?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you originally from? No details, but like do

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<v Speaker 1>you ever talk about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, I'm proud to be a Cali born, Calie

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<v Speaker 2>native and people can tell I'm not from around their

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<v Speaker 2>area because I I'm friendly now, So I just randomly

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<v Speaker 2>say a hided people on the street straighters, and they

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<v Speaker 2>just look at me like, yeah from around here? Are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in New Jersey, which is so adjacent to New

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<v Speaker 1>York that yes, if I walk down the street and go, hi,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you today? Someone will think I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>fucking rob them of something. God it's rough. It's rough,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's good to hear. You're okay. Let me ask

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<v Speaker 1>you this the boring question. Everything starts with it. You

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<v Speaker 1>go as depth full as you want to. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>my audience may not know how'd you initially get into

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<v Speaker 1>the adult entertainment industry? Because I want to get through

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<v Speaker 1>all the basics because I have a question about your person.

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<v Speaker 1>You just pointed something out and I want to I

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<v Speaker 1>want to bring something up from some of your scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you initially get into the industry?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, real talk. I think the the real domino effect was,

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<v Speaker 2>uh my, my ex broke up with me. That was

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<v Speaker 2>my last exclusive, monogamous of vanilla relationship. So I was

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<v Speaker 2>a mix of that, and then I had two previous

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<v Speaker 2>suicide attempts before that relationship, and it was a mix

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<v Speaker 2>of that. And I was like, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 2>need to go soul searching. I need to uh get

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<v Speaker 2>started on my bucket listculus and it really went from there.

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<v Speaker 1>It took off. That was the fuse that led it.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh oh my gosh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's not too personal, Can I ask how are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing nowadays? I?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I should you not, As I've gone soul searching

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<v Speaker 2>these last three years. Now I know what authenticity really means,

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<v Speaker 2>what self care really means, and what self love really means.

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<v Speaker 2>And the ironic part of that is I'm so glad

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<v Speaker 2>I took that seriously first, like I set those intentions

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<v Speaker 2>and had those goals in mind, or else I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I would have survived being in this type of

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<v Speaker 2>adult entertainment industry, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, sure, I mean, really yeah, life is tough enough

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<v Speaker 1>just by itself, you know, throwing in the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you're dealing with being a private contractor essentially you know,

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<v Speaker 1>possibly doing your own booking or hiring an agent for that,

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<v Speaker 1>shooting these scenes, figuring out how to market it properly,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like eighty percent of the job nowadays. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that is the pro and con of

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<v Speaker 2>in trade off of being so employed now and an entrepreneur.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's that trade off. There's more flexibility, but

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<v Speaker 2>there is more work. You know, it's not a conventional

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<v Speaker 2>nine to five job, but be able to have like

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<v Speaker 2>live life more on your own terms, like again real

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<v Speaker 2>talk on more of that origin story of how I

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<v Speaker 2>got into the industry. So yeah, I was in the

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<v Speaker 2>mix of my last breakup and I called myself a

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<v Speaker 2>pandemic porn start because I really got into it right

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<v Speaker 2>before Quarantine happened. And the year before Quarantine, I was

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<v Speaker 2>already going through that breakup I had. I was in

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<v Speaker 2>a car accident with my ex, so I had a

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<v Speaker 2>near life death experience and then had to move back

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<v Speaker 2>into my mom's place and she used to be toxic,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I had lost my job, so I had

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<v Speaker 2>a head start before Quarantine to deal with it before

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<v Speaker 2>shit really hit the fan. And then I was on

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<v Speaker 2>my mom's couch for at least a year until I

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<v Speaker 2>met it, until I had signs pointing me to go

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<v Speaker 2>into the adult industry, you know again with my bucke

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<v Speaker 2>list and Fuckulist, and I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna take this leap of faith and go from there.

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<v Speaker 2>And oh my gosh, I like I said, I've it

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<v Speaker 2>just really helps that I made it such a positive journey,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not doing it for superficial, shallow reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, It's it's you know, it's such a great

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<v Speaker 1>industry because I think so many of you girls, at

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<v Speaker 1>least for sexuality and stuff like that, can really like

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<v Speaker 1>find your place and find what you like and explore

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<v Speaker 1>and find what you don't like. You know, you fucking

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<v Speaker 1>hate and never want to do again. And that was

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<v Speaker 1>awful and I don't like that. Go on, but you

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<v Speaker 1>at least tried it, and you can at least say like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh shit, I'm not into that, No, this and that.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's only one aspect of your life, the sexuality part,

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<v Speaker 1>but it can spider web out to every other aspect

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<v Speaker 1>where you're now more organized, you're better with money, you're this,

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<v Speaker 1>you're that, you learned how to do photoshop, like gaining I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean hopefully, hopefully ideally that's what I hope most of

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<v Speaker 2>the models that's what they're doing. But not everyone has

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<v Speaker 2>good work ethic. Not everyone is, uh is mindful of

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<v Speaker 2>the productive side to it. You know, some people really

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<v Speaker 2>just want to to fuck you know, and not have

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<v Speaker 2>those types of work ethics and work standards. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, like okay, I mean another easter egg with

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<v Speaker 2>my origin story, with that, with my bucket list, fuckulist,

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<v Speaker 2>uh before I was officially in industry. I started venturing out,

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<v Speaker 2>checking out play parties, sex parties, parties that only existed

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<v Speaker 2>in movies, you know. So and I'm just like, holy shit,

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<v Speaker 2>these are real life gang bangs and orgies happening in

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<v Speaker 2>real life, you know. And yeah, I started going to

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<v Speaker 2>them more frequently. And then I got to the point where,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I think I'm catching an STI, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because everyone everyone's wearing condoms, but no one's vetting for

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for STI and Bax South. So I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>with me being this sexually active and this high sex strife,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting tired of having symptoms, you know, because I

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<v Speaker 2>would get tested once every three months. And now it

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<v Speaker 2>was actually fetlife dot com where I found my first agent,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And that's the that's the website where I

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<v Speaker 2>found all these parties. So that's where I met my

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<v Speaker 2>first agent, and I was the main the main headline

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<v Speaker 2>is I might as well get paid to have safe sex,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like going like having this type of like

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<v Speaker 2>high drive and being a natural at it. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was already familiar with a group dynamics, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was That's that's where the learning part comes

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<v Speaker 2>in before the industry. When I was going to those parties,

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<v Speaker 2>I was experimenting, like Okay, what I like and don't like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, evolving my disin docent boundaries, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I got into an industry and I took that

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<v Speaker 2>with me, and then I grew from there.

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<v Speaker 1>So were you always like a very sexual person or

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<v Speaker 1>was there a point where you you, not not in

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<v Speaker 1>a negative way, but crossed that line where you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not tiptoe or maybe that first time you tiptoed

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<v Speaker 1>over was it when you went to one of those clubs,

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<v Speaker 1>or were you a little earlier than that with experimenting

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I already knew my sexuality was evolving since since

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<v Speaker 2>I was little, Like I remember thinking in high school, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I think i'm by I think I'm also into chicks, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And then when I graduated high school and in college,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I remember being like I was already looking into porn,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, during high school and after high school, and

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<v Speaker 2>I remember thinking, oh, man, I'm starting to like transgenders

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<v Speaker 2>as well, like both genders, you know, And that's when

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<v Speaker 2>I knew, like my sexuality was evolving, So it went

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<v Speaker 2>from me being bisexual too pan sexual to omi sexual.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've always been curious about some things, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and my past relationships with my exes. You know, we

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<v Speaker 2>were definitely like adventurous with each other, you know, but

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<v Speaker 2>in regards to group dynamics, like me being able to

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<v Speaker 2>get in my first three thimbs. Was that after the

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<v Speaker 2>breakup and when I went to those parties.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, not not to dredge up bad memories, but I

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<v Speaker 1>have to know this. Did you break up with him?

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<v Speaker 1>Did he break up with you? Was it just a

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<v Speaker 1>mutual thing?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what? I really love that you asked that,

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<v Speaker 2>because you're the first one to ask that. I totally understand.

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<v Speaker 2>But disclaimer, I I already I've already made peace with

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<v Speaker 2>all of that, you know, so I thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>asking me that none of that's triggering anymore. But no,

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<v Speaker 2>he like real talk. This is another reason why I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a mental health advocate. He broke up with me, which

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<v Speaker 2>I totally understand because at that time, like even though

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<v Speaker 2>we have like we had a lot of things in

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<v Speaker 2>common and definitely chemistry, Like not to speak for him,

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<v Speaker 2>but at least to speak for myself. There were some

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<v Speaker 2>childhood traumas that I didn't completely resolve and make peace with,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes that would bleed into our relationship, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I used to be insecure, and I used to

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<v Speaker 2>hate myself, and I used to seless shame myself. And

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<v Speaker 2>this was before I got into the industry. And there

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<v Speaker 2>are moments where I had some toxic femininity, but I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't realize it at the time. I was two in

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<v Speaker 2>my head, so it was only being able to have

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<v Speaker 2>that distance and growing apart and focusing more on myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure I did all that wisdom and epiphany, like all

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<v Speaker 2>those epiphanies finally came to me. So I still have

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<v Speaker 2>love and respect for him. I'm just not in love

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<v Speaker 2>with him anymore. Honestly, I have no regrets, like if

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<v Speaker 2>he hadn't broken up with me, Like I try to

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<v Speaker 2>take my own advice, like you should never. I'm at

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<v Speaker 2>the point now where you should never be in a

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<v Speaker 2>relationship to overcompensate, you know, you really have to learn

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<v Speaker 2>to love yourself first, sure you know, and then everything

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<v Speaker 2>else should feel like a bonus. You shouldn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>overcompensate for someone. And yeah, I learned that the hard way,

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<v Speaker 2>but better late than never, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, see, yeah, I ask that because I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>did you, okay, did you step into that realm at all?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you just were curious and you were at a

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<v Speaker 1>different place in your life. You had had others things,

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<v Speaker 1>you had dealing with trauma, the breakup, this and that.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you was any of it getting back at him thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Or no? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>No, you know what I know, that's what I wasn't sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah that year.

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<v Speaker 2>That year, I was definitely going through a lot, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was experimenting with a lot of things. I was

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<v Speaker 2>really trying to find myself literally and soul searching. And

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<v Speaker 2>uh that that was the first and last time I've

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<v Speaker 2>experimented with drugs, like hard drugs, like I've had a

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<v Speaker 2>few bumps of cocaine, and looking back, I'm really lucky,

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<v Speaker 2>which is another reason why I advocate for one of

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<v Speaker 1>One more one more time, can you give me that

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Uh, when people are down there checking out

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<v Speaker 1>with that yourself. So that was the first time you experimented,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh I uh, We're gonna take a quick break my

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<v Speaker 1>want to play a game with you. Would you mind

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<v Speaker 1>if you play it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>The game is called porn Words. Okay. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>give you a clue for the correct answer, and your

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say any form of the answer in my

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<v Speaker 1>and you can get the ones you missed. You'll have.

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<v Speaker 1>say I made like say I was like soft drink?

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<v Speaker 1>Pop, soda brand?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Coca cola?

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, perfect, there you go. See you just

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<v Speaker 1>throw out answers. I'll try and give you clues. Now

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. These are all porn related categories. Okay, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it anytime. We'll come back to it if you have to,

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<v Speaker 1>and good to go. Three two question number one, Uh

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<v Speaker 1>dressing up like animals?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh fury.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. Number two, woman in charge, don boss, lady,

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<v Speaker 1>keep going first part of that moment. There you go,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Number two. Uh, not your mouth, pussy or.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. Number four, bunch of guys, one girl,

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<v Speaker 1>gang very okay, uh, gang bang gang bang. Correct. Number five,

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<v Speaker 1>sticky face. Okay. Number six, if you don't swallow you,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. Number seven, basic sex position, starting out

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<v Speaker 1>on it. Everyone starts out on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone starts okay, flacial.

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<v Speaker 1>No ten seconds. Yeah, there you go. Number eight two

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<v Speaker 1>got it older, mature time time. There you go. Eight

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<v Speaker 1>out of ten is pretty fucking good, though, okay, uh

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<v Speaker 1>for a tiebreaker. According to ia FD dot com, the

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<v Speaker 1>Internet Adult Film Database, which doesn't include certain things like

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<v Speaker 1>like website mainstream type stuff for the tiebreaker. According to

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<v Speaker 1>ia FD dot com as of this recording, how many

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<v Speaker 1>male performers have you worked with?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I lost count. We're not even talking

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<v Speaker 1>We're not talking about any of that. And we're not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about any of the numbers. They don't count. You're

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<v Speaker 2>But to many, let's see, at least one hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty eight, at least one hundred, No, no, twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>ever since twenty eight? Can you hear me? Two eight?

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<v Speaker 1>I told you On IAFD dot com they have they

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<v Speaker 1>have a thing. It tells you everyone you've ever worked with. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the bottom it says, I think on record,

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<v Speaker 1>that's on record. Yeah. See, you're almost like a nun.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty eight. It's pretty good. You're You're fine. I do

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about some of your content. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you're a porn star, I think, and tell

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<v Speaker 1>me if I'm wrong. Maybe about your person. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're an artist who's really hot and enjoy sex. So

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<v Speaker 1>you went, I'm gonna try and make this my art.

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<v Speaker 2>I really like that perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>That's yeah that if that at all sounded insulting, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't mean it that way. Oh okay, okay, Are are

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<v Speaker 1>you artistic? Like? Have you been artistic throughout your life?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you? And if you are, what is your medium?

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever that medium is music? Like you said, is that.

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<v Speaker 2>In regards to my modeling work, like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>As a person, Oh, I mean honestly, I think a

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<v Speaker 2>my vanilla life, I train martial arts and my so

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<v Speaker 2>on fat life. What I love about that is not

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<v Speaker 2>and how it narrows down the list when meeting other

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<v Speaker 2>people instead of being around the bush, you get to

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<v Speaker 2>learn your sex personality and your sex style, so that'll

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<v Speaker 2>help find other people that are similar to you who

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<v Speaker 2>would be more compatible. So I found out I'm more primal,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that translates into how I naturally portray

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<v Speaker 2>myself on camera.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that primal is the term?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that like an actual term like an actual.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll finish culture obedism world. Yeah, that's definitely a

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<v Speaker 2>term for certain types of people and their sex styles, like,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, biting and scratching. Not many people are into that,

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<v Speaker 2>but the ones that are primal naturally are.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there is there an inverse to primal like dominant

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<v Speaker 2>So what's amazing is that you don't have to be

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<v Speaker 2>just one one main uh, one main style, sure, or

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So you know how there's indica, tativas and hybrid, right,

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<v Speaker 2>in the co dominant hybrid tativa dominant hybrid. So yeah, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>with being dominant and sub if if you naturally ken

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<v Speaker 2>me both dominant and submissive, which is me, I'm a switch.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's okay. So at first, at first I saw

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<v Speaker 2>myself as a switch being, being able to portray myself

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely as dominant or sub depending on who I'm with

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<v Speaker 2>and what kind of relationship dynamic I have with that person.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I also found out that I'm primal, So

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately I consider myself as a primal switch in the

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<v Speaker 2>BDS some world and that is that where you're getting

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<v Speaker 2>out with your question kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>But I liked your answer anyway because it gave me

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<v Speaker 1>more information. But actually not at all. But I did

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<v Speaker 1>like your answer. It did give me information, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>at all what I was asking, is there is there

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<v Speaker 1>an inverse to primal? Is there like a pamper, like

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<v Speaker 1>someone who doesn't like anything at.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's an opposite or yani yang, right? I see,

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<v Speaker 2>So the yani yang of dominance is submissive, So the

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<v Speaker 2>yanni yang of primal would be of course a prey,

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<v Speaker 2>someone that likes being chased, someone that likes being caught,

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<v Speaker 2>someone that likes being dominated, and almost like an almost

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<v Speaker 2>like a far away like how there are people that

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<v Speaker 2>a cat or a dog or a puppy. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>that's where certain yeah, those certain personality types come into play.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can be so how does a okay, last

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<v Speaker 1>question on this?

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the ironic part, And you know what, that's

420
00:25:59.160 --> 00:26:01.160
<v Speaker 2>a really good question because I haven't thought of that

421
00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:04.519
<v Speaker 2>angle before. So I'm only in a switch in the

422
00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:09.319
<v Speaker 2>dominant substance, but I don't switch in a primal sense

423
00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:15.400
<v Speaker 2>like naturally. If I find someone that's also primal or

424
00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:19.640
<v Speaker 2>another dominant male, uh I would see them as equal,

425
00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:24.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, or for our relationship dynamic to work, you know.

426
00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:27.880
<v Speaker 2>But if if they're too dominant, or if they're too

427
00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:34.079
<v Speaker 2>prideful to eat, egotistical and usually toxic, it gets to

428
00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:35.839
<v Speaker 2>that point, then we're not going to get along.

429
00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:42.039
<v Speaker 1>Sure, So wait, you can't you yourself can't. I'm not

430
00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:44.480
<v Speaker 1>to pray if that's no, no, no, no, no no.

431
00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask, can you be a primal

432
00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:51.759
<v Speaker 1>sub and then does the dom have to be primal

433
00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:52.319
<v Speaker 1>as well?

434
00:26:53.079 --> 00:26:56.519
<v Speaker 2>Or no? No? Okay, So no, A really good question there.

435
00:26:57.440 --> 00:26:59.839
<v Speaker 2>Depending on who it is, I can be primal, So

436
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:03.559
<v Speaker 2>up if I see that person as an equal, you know,

437
00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:07.559
<v Speaker 2>and like none of it is forced, none of it

438
00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:13.039
<v Speaker 2>is pressured, and uh it usually it would feel natural,

439
00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:18.880
<v Speaker 2>you know. And I only say primal in a way

440
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:22.759
<v Speaker 2>where the Okay. So I definitely have been with dozens

441
00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:30.480
<v Speaker 2>of guys in and out of the industry, and surprisingly enough, uh,

442
00:27:31.240 --> 00:27:34.480
<v Speaker 2>I usually come across a couple of other primals like me,

443
00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:38.799
<v Speaker 2>like every dozen dudes. So me, it's rare, and it's

444
00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:41.799
<v Speaker 2>like a treat, like you know, we're into like certainly

445
00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:47.720
<v Speaker 2>real certain like kinky things. But I only emphasize primal

446
00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:50.960
<v Speaker 2>because those are the those are the those usually are

447
00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:57.039
<v Speaker 2>that the personality types that really like match like could

448
00:27:57.079 --> 00:28:00.440
<v Speaker 2>be really on par with me, sure like such rally

449
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:01.559
<v Speaker 2>and personality.

450
00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I notice some of the primal stuff in

451
00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:11.160
<v Speaker 1>some of your content, and and I'll be honest with you,

452
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I had a totally different perspective of your personality before

453
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:19.279
<v Speaker 1>I started like doving in listening to other interviews and

454
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:23.759
<v Speaker 1>here talking to you. Now you slight on me. Oh yeah,

455
00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:29.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm a professional. Oh yeah, oh please. My wife teared

456
00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:32.079
<v Speaker 1>up when I was nominated for an av N last year.

457
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:34.559
<v Speaker 1>You know, I have to I have to put some

458
00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:37.480
<v Speaker 1>level of effort. Yeah, I mean, come on, I'm going

459
00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:40.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm going up against plug talk. It's you know, that's fine,

460
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:45.200
<v Speaker 1>It's fine. I'll always be second place. So here's here's

461
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:48.039
<v Speaker 1>where I noticed that there's a scene you shot, and

462
00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to ask you about that scene you shot

463
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:57.079
<v Speaker 1>for gloryholeswallows dot Com, which I believe is if I've

464
00:28:57.160 --> 00:29:04.119
<v Speaker 1>emailed him before, Dave gentlemen named Dave perhaps sometimes Yeah, I.

465
00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:06.359
<v Speaker 2>Don't know if that's the Vegas one, Arizona one.

466
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:10.799
<v Speaker 1>I think I see Arizona one. Okay, Okay, So for

467
00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:14.160
<v Speaker 1>people who can't understand the concept of that name, Glory

468
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:18.599
<v Speaker 1>whole Swallows, it's exactly what it sounds like. But there's

469
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:22.200
<v Speaker 1>one part where this gentleman can't finish and he comes

470
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:28.160
<v Speaker 1>into the room and you are looking at him like, dude,

471
00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:30.880
<v Speaker 1>if we were praying Manti right now, and don't think

472
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:33.799
<v Speaker 1>that's the plural, I would take your fucking head off.

473
00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:37.279
<v Speaker 1>You were like looking up at this dude like if

474
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>I was him, and you're like blowing him at one

475
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>point and you're looking up at him. I'm like, yo,

476
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:44.519
<v Speaker 1>i'd be scared of her teeth right now, man, don't

477
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:48.160
<v Speaker 1>fuck around. And then he has the audacity he's like, well,

478
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, could I fuck you? And you're just like, yeah, whatever,

479
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:53.359
<v Speaker 1>just get this shit done with.

480
00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I give her that flashback. I totally

481
00:29:57.680 --> 00:29:58.799
<v Speaker 2>forgot that happened.

482
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:02.920
<v Speaker 1>So you do remember that though, Yeah, it's funny.

483
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Back to me, now, was that just it? I didn't

484
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:08.279
<v Speaker 2>realize you kept off.

485
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:15.559
<v Speaker 1>It's fun. Let me let me say, let me say this. No, no, no,

486
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:17.880
<v Speaker 1>it was it was the scene and I'd seen other

487
00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:19.559
<v Speaker 1>stuff you had done before, but it was the scene

488
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:22.279
<v Speaker 1>I seen where I was like, when you use the

489
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:25.880
<v Speaker 1>word primal, I go, oh, that is the definition, because

490
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>it almost looked again. It's all open for interpretation. I'm

491
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:32.319
<v Speaker 1>going to ask you about that scene. But if you

492
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>were in a positive light, you could go like, oh

493
00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:37.039
<v Speaker 1>my god, she just wants to finish this guy to

494
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:40.359
<v Speaker 1>get to the next one. It's so sexy. Blah blah blah. Really,

495
00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:42.000
<v Speaker 1>what I'm going to ask you is, was it like

496
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:44.440
<v Speaker 1>later in the day and you were just like, motherfucker,

497
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I need to wrap this, let's go.

498
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean I I was definitely insatiable, you know, like

499
00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I we wanted to move on to the to the

500
00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:07.599
<v Speaker 2>next person that that side, that side of me only

501
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:14.200
<v Speaker 2>came out because he he took a lot more work

502
00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:18.880
<v Speaker 2>than the other guys, Like, uh, I don't know he

503
00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:23.319
<v Speaker 2>if he already jacked off that day, and I saved

504
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:30.160
<v Speaker 2>his pop shot because because uh, usually most guys they're amateurs.

505
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:33.279
<v Speaker 2>Usually most guys are professional. No went to save their

506
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:37.559
<v Speaker 2>pop shots. No went to edge you know, So I

507
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:40.400
<v Speaker 2>don't know if he was eating junk food not getting

508
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:45.519
<v Speaker 2>enough rest or or if he really needs a more

509
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:51.559
<v Speaker 2>like in person uh physical element to really get him closer.

510
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:54.839
<v Speaker 2>But you know, it's benefit of the doubt. I'm being understanding.

511
00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:57.119
<v Speaker 2>But yes, I do have a side to me that

512
00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:00.960
<v Speaker 2>does get impatient, and I have a side to me.

513
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:05.960
<v Speaker 2>And the paring mantis is such a perfect analogy because

514
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:10.599
<v Speaker 2>at least once a month I do have have you

515
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:14.640
<v Speaker 2>seen the movie Species? Yeah, at least once a month,

516
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:18.759
<v Speaker 2>which is usually when I'm on my period, I get

517
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:25.160
<v Speaker 2>extra horny, extra intense, uh, extra piste off at the

518
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:31.319
<v Speaker 2>same time, so I legit I feel like I'm in heat.

519
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:36.440
<v Speaker 2>And there are times like biologically speaking, I just wanna

520
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:40.720
<v Speaker 2>and I and that ties into my my genuine cream

521
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:41.920
<v Speaker 2>pie breeding fetish.

522
00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:45.319
<v Speaker 1>We'll have to touch on that obviously.

523
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:51.119
<v Speaker 2>So it is a real thing for me and me

524
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:54.839
<v Speaker 2>being an authentic primal, like I generally do just wanna

525
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:59.880
<v Speaker 2>like fuck biologically for like the mating, fucking breeding purposes,

526
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:06.119
<v Speaker 2>and I do have it in me where like I

527
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:13.039
<v Speaker 2>have fantasized about killing Jesus Christ right after like like

528
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:16.000
<v Speaker 2>the analogy and epiphany, I'm like Okay, that makes sense.

529
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:18.799
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know why that's the thing. It's like

530
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:22.440
<v Speaker 2>how you guys just spuck so also you know, for

531
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:26.400
<v Speaker 2>reading purposes, you know, not trying to put a lifelong partner.

532
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:30.599
<v Speaker 2>But it is that thing biology speaking and an animal

533
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:33.720
<v Speaker 2>kingdom like oh that clicks, that checks out?

534
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:37.359
<v Speaker 1>What Okay, I got it? What is And I've heard

535
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:40.240
<v Speaker 1>it before obviously it's not like some giant revelation.

536
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:43.519
<v Speaker 2>But to hearers too, like female spiders do the same

537
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:48.599
<v Speaker 2>thing too. Yeah, they kill right after they mate usually. Yeah,

538
00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:53.319
<v Speaker 2>they just only want uh, the offspring, you know, when

539
00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:53.880
<v Speaker 2>they're fertile.

540
00:33:54.440 --> 00:34:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hear that, guys, Yeah, guys. Yeah, And you know

541
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:05.519
<v Speaker 1>what that She's not uncommon. Most women probably feel the

542
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:08.119
<v Speaker 1>same way once a month. Okay, I'm going to take

543
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:09.760
<v Speaker 1>your fucking head off right now, sir.

544
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:11.559
<v Speaker 2>That's a group.

545
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:15.559
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, most of those guys are probably

546
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:17.800
<v Speaker 1>listening to my show. If I'm being honest, I love you.

547
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:19.320
<v Speaker 1>You're all great. U.

548
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:25.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean that ties into sorry sidebar, like if there

549
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:30.280
<v Speaker 2>was ever in a zombie apocalypse, like one of the

550
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:33.719
<v Speaker 2>things one of the main motives for me to have

551
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:37.000
<v Speaker 2>a different type of bird control where I don't have

552
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:39.760
<v Speaker 2>to take a pill every day is for the zombie

553
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:42.920
<v Speaker 2>pocalypse analogy, Like I it would be such a hassle

554
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:46.559
<v Speaker 2>to just go on my runs and find condoms, you know,

555
00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:50.280
<v Speaker 2>I should just have the implantation and not worry about

556
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:53.840
<v Speaker 2>finding condoms during the zombie pocalypse. And I'm the type

557
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:57.440
<v Speaker 2>of person that, please be honest and let me know

558
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:01.400
<v Speaker 2>if you got bitten, suck a time when we could

559
00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:04.360
<v Speaker 2>get our last fucking before you turn. I'm that type

560
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:06.480
<v Speaker 2>of person that thinks of shit like that.

561
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:10.079
<v Speaker 1>By the way, By the way, did we just write

562
00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:10.719
<v Speaker 1>a script?

563
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:11.719
<v Speaker 2>You know what?

564
00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:14.679
<v Speaker 1>I never thought of hear me out. I never thought

565
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:18.280
<v Speaker 1>of this. When the apocalypse happens, right, there's gonna be

566
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:23.639
<v Speaker 1>like four forms of currency, okay, five, righty here, let

567
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:33.360
<v Speaker 1>me give them to you, cigarettes, toilet paper, alcohol, bullets, pussy.

568
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:35.920
<v Speaker 1>There you go, those are your five types, right?

569
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:37.440
<v Speaker 2>What if?

570
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:42.000
<v Speaker 1>How about how about this script? Ready? A what are

571
00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:44.639
<v Speaker 1>they called in Vegas? Not a cat house? That's like

572
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:46.719
<v Speaker 1>makes me sound like an eighty year old man. What

573
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:51.119
<v Speaker 1>are they called house? Yeah, brothel? Brothel that was the word. Okay, brothel,

574
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:54.480
<v Speaker 1>it's a brothel. And then there's word from the outside

575
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:57.000
<v Speaker 1>that a zombie attack's broken out, So this group of

576
00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:00.840
<v Speaker 1>rogue women go out and try and find the community

577
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:03.719
<v Speaker 1>that they can fuck their way into. Now it's not

578
00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:06.119
<v Speaker 1>a porn though, it's just a strange script. And then

579
00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:09.440
<v Speaker 1>but here's the thing. That's only half of the movie.

580
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:13.639
<v Speaker 1>The other half is them now rising to power by

581
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:18.639
<v Speaker 1>using themselves and their personalities and their bodies and blah

582
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:21.119
<v Speaker 1>blah blah to get up. There's your script, Go write it,

583
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:22.360
<v Speaker 1>artist for it.

584
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:23.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm here for it.

585
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's find someone that'll write it, because I never will.

586
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:28.920
<v Speaker 1>But that's a good idea, Okay.

587
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Sucker Punch and Mad Max, Yeah that's pretty good.

588
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:40.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll give you that soccer Punch. I got too

589
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:44.719
<v Speaker 1>drunk and fell asleep. Uh my wife likes it, so

590
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's a good movie. But yeah, she's pretty cool. Okay.

591
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:52.360
<v Speaker 1>So let me ask you again. These people are gonna

592
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:54.679
<v Speaker 1>be like, hey, Matt, talk about something.

593
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:56.559
<v Speaker 2>What is what?

594
00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Stop giving a script ideas, asshole in front and have

595
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:06.119
<v Speaker 1>a conversation here. Uh, let me ask you. Have you

596
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:14.199
<v Speaker 1>not yet accomplished something on your fuck it bucket list? Sexually? Like,

597
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:16.079
<v Speaker 1>in terms of the industry, is there a type of

598
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:20.400
<v Speaker 1>scene you've yet to shoot that you really want to,

599
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:23.719
<v Speaker 1>or maybe it's a person that you really want to

600
00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:25.840
<v Speaker 1>work with you've just not been able to any of

601
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:28.440
<v Speaker 1>those things. Tell me something that you haven't gotten to yet.

602
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well off top I thought of. I just brainstorm

603
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:37.840
<v Speaker 2>like around five give or take things. For sure, I

604
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:42.159
<v Speaker 2>have yet to get my uh A tentacle scene in.

605
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:46.679
<v Speaker 2>I legit have a tentacle fetish okay, and and I

606
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:50.840
<v Speaker 2>generally have again with me being a primal, I generally

607
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:52.840
<v Speaker 2>have a vampire and wearable fetish as well.

608
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:57.280
<v Speaker 1>All Right, well, I mean we're gonna come back to that. Obviously,

609
00:37:57.320 --> 00:37:59.760
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna we gotta take another break, but continue continue

610
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:02.119
<v Speaker 1>with this short industry protocols.

611
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Apparently down the grapevine, I heard that's still categorized as

612
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:09.159
<v Speaker 2>BC reality, so that won't pan out on certain platforms

613
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:11.639
<v Speaker 2>and certain certain spaces.

614
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:17.800
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's it's it's I fight with X videos

615
00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:21.320
<v Speaker 1>getting videos uploaded just all the time, all the time.

616
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:22.519
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I get it.

617
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:25.840
<v Speaker 2>That means I would have to rig up three fuck

618
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:31.559
<v Speaker 2>machines by myself and just attach tentacle dildos on them

619
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:32.599
<v Speaker 2>and just maybe worry.

620
00:38:33.559 --> 00:38:37.320
<v Speaker 1>It's you know what the you could do it and

621
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>someone will buy it. I mean, you're gorgeous and it's

622
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:44.199
<v Speaker 1>a great idea and yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know.

623
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:46.159
<v Speaker 1>You can find a way to sell it dropbox or

624
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:51.119
<v Speaker 1>something like that. Oh yeah, yeah, so that's what Wait

625
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:52.519
<v Speaker 1>wait technical scene?

626
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:54.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah where will fetters scene?

627
00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

628
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<v Speaker 2>But okay, So aside from that, sexuality wise, I'm also

629
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:06.039
<v Speaker 2>attracted to all genders. I'm omnisexual, and that's similar to

630
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:10.039
<v Speaker 2>being pan sexual. What they both have in common is

631
00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:13.840
<v Speaker 2>being attracted to all genders. But the difference is that

632
00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:19.400
<v Speaker 2>when you're pan sexual, you focus on that person's main

633
00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:24.239
<v Speaker 2>identity and persona and how they want to portray themselves

634
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:29.800
<v Speaker 2>as and present themselves as, whereas me being omnisexual, I

635
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:33.199
<v Speaker 2>considered that as well take that into account, but I

636
00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:36.639
<v Speaker 2>also acknowledged their biological sex that they were originally born

637
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:40.039
<v Speaker 2>with instead of just focusing on their personality.

638
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:42.679
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, all right, So.

639
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Off cam, I've had sex with transgenders, but I had

640
00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:56.320
<v Speaker 2>to have an official one on cam, so that's on

641
00:39:56.719 --> 00:40:01.199
<v Speaker 2>my slash Spuckulist. And then last thing off the top

642
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:04.199
<v Speaker 2>of my head is, uh, before I got into the industry,

643
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:08.800
<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite porn companies that used to watch

644
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:10.440
<v Speaker 2>was Burning Angels.

645
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:11.039
<v Speaker 4>Yep.

646
00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:15.519
<v Speaker 2>So it's still on my buglass slash fuckless to have

647
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:18.880
<v Speaker 2>some kind of aintal through use with Joanna Angel and

648
00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:22.960
<v Speaker 2>small Hands. And it's crazy because I've crossed paths with

649
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:25.000
<v Speaker 2>them a couple of times when I finally started going

650
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:28.880
<v Speaker 2>to the A v N and those expos and conventions,

651
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:34.199
<v Speaker 2>and I still get shy around them. But yeah, I

652
00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:35.880
<v Speaker 2>think the next time I cross passed with them, I'm

653
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:38.360
<v Speaker 2>just gonna suck it. Get it.

654
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:44.199
<v Speaker 1>To two exonicas ago, I woke up to Johanna Angel,

655
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:48.280
<v Speaker 1>who I had no idea, was so tiny, no idea,

656
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:51.199
<v Speaker 1>and I just I go like this. I had like

657
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.239
<v Speaker 1>a card like with my podcast stuff on it. How

658
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:57.280
<v Speaker 1>you doing mat? And she just looked at me like

659
00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:01.079
<v Speaker 1>get this fucking monster away from me, please. I don't

660
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:04.039
<v Speaker 1>blame her. I just came out of nowhere. It was terrified,

661
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:09.719
<v Speaker 1>trying to get physical. It were in her bubble or no, no, no, no, no,

662
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:12.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a fucking creep. No, I wasn't in your bubble?

663
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:13.079
<v Speaker 2>Was that extra energy?

664
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I flop around like the Looney Tunes guy,

665
00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:21.199
<v Speaker 1>what's his name? Gossamer, the Big red thing or I'm

666
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:25.559
<v Speaker 1>like Tasmanian devil. I don't know. I'm a mess. And

667
00:41:26.440 --> 00:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>she was terrified just because I was no, no, no.

668
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:33.079
<v Speaker 1>She gave me the uh no no, no, no, no,

669
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:35.039
<v Speaker 1>not at all, not a bitch face. She gave me

670
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:38.079
<v Speaker 1>a somebody gets security, this guy's gonna try and hurt

671
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:38.719
<v Speaker 1>me face.

672
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:39.480
<v Speaker 5>No.

673
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I did not come within her bubble. I was not

674
00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:43.559
<v Speaker 1>more than an arm's length when I tried to handle

675
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:45.719
<v Speaker 1>my card and I didn't just jam it. I was like,

676
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:50.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, hey, hi, was there a line? There was

677
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:55.960
<v Speaker 1>no The line had just maybe the line had just

678
00:41:56.079 --> 00:41:58.239
<v Speaker 1>started to form. There were maybe two people, and I

679
00:41:58.280 --> 00:41:59.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to be in line. I didn't want any time.

680
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to give a business card, say hi,

681
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:04.559
<v Speaker 1>my name is mad I work with these people. I

682
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:06.519
<v Speaker 1>just wanted you to you know, I would love to

683
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:08.559
<v Speaker 1>have you on for an interview sometime. Blah blah.

684
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:10.000
<v Speaker 2>While she curved you real quick.

685
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:13.360
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't it wasn't again, it wasn't her fault. Wasn't

686
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:15.880
<v Speaker 1>her fault at all. I'm a big dumb monster. And

687
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I came tumbling at her. And she was in New Jersey,

688
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:20.159
<v Speaker 1>which is already terrifying.

689
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:21.639
<v Speaker 2>In the Jersey. That's a reputation.

690
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, the reputation of being the best the

691
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:29.079
<v Speaker 1>Garden State having pork role. I understand, we got it.

692
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Thanks theahs. Yeah yeah yeah, I mean yeah, Like.

693
00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:37.079
<v Speaker 2>You said, I don't blame her like me being a model.

694
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:40.400
<v Speaker 2>It's definitely hit or miss with me too. Like I,

695
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:44.760
<v Speaker 2>I honestly can't always look friendly all the time. I'll

696
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:49.119
<v Speaker 2>be honest about that. And I already naturally had my

697
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:51.920
<v Speaker 2>guard up because I didn't grow up sheltered or privileged,

698
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:56.239
<v Speaker 2>so I natually don't trust people anyways. So that's something

699
00:42:56.280 --> 00:43:00.920
<v Speaker 2>that I even I have to balance is keeping myself

700
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:05.679
<v Speaker 2>in check with balancing thing friendly generally trying to be

701
00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:09.800
<v Speaker 2>generally friendly to fans, you know, and showing love, but

702
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:15.119
<v Speaker 2>also being wary of like other people's intentions, you know,

703
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:18.360
<v Speaker 2>like because there you know, there are always predators around

704
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:20.199
<v Speaker 2>and people trying to take advantage of other people.

705
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:30.559
<v Speaker 5>When the world tells you to go away, stop leave,

706
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:35.199
<v Speaker 5>go don't instead just come.

707
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Come.

708
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:40.119
<v Speaker 5>The New Fragrance by the podcast that made You Squirt

709
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:44.519
<v Speaker 5>available now at your Worst Friend dot com. Come here,

710
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:47.320
<v Speaker 5>come there, come anywhere, just come.

711
00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:58.119
<v Speaker 1>So, as a fan, what is the best way for

712
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:02.400
<v Speaker 1>me to approach, you know, a performer in public. They're

713
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:05.880
<v Speaker 1>they're obviously there's gonna be some people you should have

714
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:08.480
<v Speaker 1>never approached at all, and you should never approach aggressively.

715
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:10.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean by that, I mean almost like like

716
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:13.079
<v Speaker 1>if I were in a situation like this where I

717
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:14.039
<v Speaker 1>would say, you know.

718
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:17.800
<v Speaker 6>Excuse me, are you chanting crossfire? I love your content?

719
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:19.440
<v Speaker 6>You know, would you mind if I had an autograph

720
00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:21.480
<v Speaker 6>or a picture or something like that like that that

721
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:23.920
<v Speaker 6>is I'm not even like playing that up. I'm just

722
00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:26.719
<v Speaker 6>not that guy where I go up aggressively. If I

723
00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:29.159
<v Speaker 6>come up aggressively, it's because I'm a big dumb animal.

724
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:32.480
<v Speaker 6>It's not because I'm trying to be aggressive. So, dude,

725
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:34.840
<v Speaker 6>So what is the best way for a fan to

726
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:37.840
<v Speaker 6>if they were to approach you outside of a convention?

727
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:41.519
<v Speaker 6>And then maybe a convention is not not different in

728
00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:43.960
<v Speaker 6>that they're allowed to grab you or anything, but it's

729
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:46.599
<v Speaker 6>a little more understanding because you're at the thing kind

730
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:47.000
<v Speaker 6>of you know.

731
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So it really depends. Honestly, I try to give

732
00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:56.519
<v Speaker 2>people the benefit of the doubt. You know, people get excited.

733
00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:01.360
<v Speaker 2>People have different personalities. Maybe they're the spectrum, maybe they

734
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:04.239
<v Speaker 2>have a d d uh.

735
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And.

736
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:10.559
<v Speaker 2>And I can't speak for other models, but at least

737
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:16.760
<v Speaker 2>for myself, like uh, approaching me like with my personality type,

738
00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:24.679
<v Speaker 2>definitely like don't come at me too fast, definitely not

739
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:30.800
<v Speaker 2>within my bubble and my space. A good safe, a

740
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:36.400
<v Speaker 2>good safe, respectful distance boundaries, you know. And if if

741
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:39.679
<v Speaker 2>we're already in like a convention exposed setting and an

742
00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:42.400
<v Speaker 2>adult setting, then yeah, go for it, you know, ask

743
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:45.920
<v Speaker 2>me if I'm chanting crossfire, ask me to take a picture,

744
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:49.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, be respectful of course. But if you're in

745
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:53.079
<v Speaker 2>like a vanilla setting, you know, in public, then yeah,

746
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:57.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, I guess some implied etiquette of you know,

747
00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:01.360
<v Speaker 2>like you know, with whispering or uh, just like some

748
00:46:01.639 --> 00:46:02.639
<v Speaker 2>acknowledgment you know.

749
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:09.880
<v Speaker 1>But don't bother people when they're eating. Well, if you

750
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:13.239
<v Speaker 1>if you desperately want like annogree for a picture or something,

751
00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:15.719
<v Speaker 1>you may have to just wait and then don't be

752
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:17.519
<v Speaker 1>a creep about it. Don't stand behind them.

753
00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:20.679
<v Speaker 2>Another yeah etiquet across the board too.

754
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:23.559
<v Speaker 1>When they're eating or with badly.

755
00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Really it's hard to balance, you know, I understand being opportunistic,

756
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:31.400
<v Speaker 2>like this might be the only change you see this

757
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:36.400
<v Speaker 2>person which I totally understand. It's it's such a thing

758
00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:41.400
<v Speaker 2>to balance, you know, but everyone want's mood fluctuates and changes,

759
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:45.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, Like sometimes i could be friendly and I'm open,

760
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:49.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, uh to embracing fans, and then sometimes I'm

761
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:57.199
<v Speaker 2>just like fuck off, you know. But across the board

762
00:46:57.239 --> 00:47:03.079
<v Speaker 2>in regards to people's safety, yeah, just just being more

763
00:47:03.199 --> 00:47:08.360
<v Speaker 2>careful and you know, since I have of consent and

764
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:12.519
<v Speaker 2>permission to ask if it's okay, sick picture or even

765
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:15.519
<v Speaker 2>like just some people are okay with just a simple

766
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:18.159
<v Speaker 2>like acknowledgment and high you know.

767
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:22.320
<v Speaker 1>But you know what, that's what makes the conventions so great.

768
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:24.920
<v Speaker 1>They're an outlet for those things. You can go and

769
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:29.000
<v Speaker 1>get your autographs, you can get your pictures. Last year

770
00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:31.280
<v Speaker 1>we went and I watched. I made my wife watch

771
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:33.559
<v Speaker 1>actually because it was hilarious. My wife is not she's

772
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:35.719
<v Speaker 1>not a prude, but she's much more vanilla than me

773
00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:39.679
<v Speaker 1>because I'm a pig. And we watched, and I was

774
00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:42.320
<v Speaker 1>going to talk to Alex Cole because we had been

775
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:45.239
<v Speaker 1>emailing back and forth, and then we both kind of

776
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:47.679
<v Speaker 1>just fell off and I wanted to introduce myself again.

777
00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:51.039
<v Speaker 1>So I come running at her and no, I'm just kidding.

778
00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:54.119
<v Speaker 1>I respectfully waited in line. But the gentleman in front

779
00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:58.960
<v Speaker 1>of us was a true gentleman, and he paid Alex

780
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:01.159
<v Speaker 1>the whatever amount and then he laid on the floor

781
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and for five minutes she rubbed her feet in his

782
00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:06.880
<v Speaker 1>mouth with her socks on. And I was like, this

783
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:08.960
<v Speaker 1>is fun. This is a fun industry.

784
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:12.639
<v Speaker 2>But we hold on. Yeah, and I'm curious about thee

785
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:13.480
<v Speaker 2>was she needing?

786
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see it. I didn't see it. She it

787
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:18.199
<v Speaker 1>was behind the podium. I made my wife go around

788
00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:21.840
<v Speaker 1>and look. Okay, but I didn't look because I mean,

789
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:27.039
<v Speaker 1>I've seen I mean, I'm so desensitized everything. It would

790
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:29.840
<v Speaker 1>have been fine if that guy was drinking dumpster juice

791
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:32.000
<v Speaker 1>with her feet in his face. I would have been like, Yeah,

792
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:38.360
<v Speaker 1>that's normal, that's normal with the shit I've seen so so,

793
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:42.679
<v Speaker 1>but those conventions are for that type of thing. Go

794
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:43.360
<v Speaker 1>get your picture.

795
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:47.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It's almost like sex positivity and body positivity for sure.

796
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:50.880
<v Speaker 1>But I will say there's an etiquette at these things

797
00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:52.880
<v Speaker 1>as well. It's not just a free for all. I

798
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:55.840
<v Speaker 1>felt so bad. Last last year we met up with

799
00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:58.320
<v Speaker 1>someone I had interviewed a few times. She's the only

800
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:02.800
<v Speaker 1>fans performer blew up. I love her. She is just

801
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:06.639
<v Speaker 1>a sweetheart. Cat karma or gasmic people check her out

802
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:08.719
<v Speaker 1>if you haven't seen her before. But her and her

803
00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:12.159
<v Speaker 1>husband produced a lot of gang bang content, good stuff. Anyway,

804
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I met them for the first time, and I saw

805
00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:18.079
<v Speaker 1>a lot of guys like, because she's not some big

806
00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:21.519
<v Speaker 1>name with security or anything, they were super disrespectful. At

807
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:22.800
<v Speaker 1>the end of the night, I was like, I wanted

808
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:25.239
<v Speaker 1>to say goodbye. It was a pleasure meeting you this

809
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:26.719
<v Speaker 1>and that. You know, I really loved you.

810
00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Guys.

811
00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:28.639
<v Speaker 1>If you're here next year, maybe we could do dinner

812
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:31.079
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. And then the next guy behind

813
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:32.679
<v Speaker 1>me after I said bye kind of just walks up

814
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:35.199
<v Speaker 1>and like slaps her ass and he's like, let's take picture.

815
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Again. This is.

816
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:42.039
<v Speaker 1>Her first year at one of these things. She kind

817
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I saw the look on her face and I was

818
00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:46.440
<v Speaker 1>just kind of and she didn't say anything. And maybe

819
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:49.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm drawling something out of nothing. I'm just telling you

820
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:51.320
<v Speaker 1>what I saw, But I saw like this look on

821
00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:55.039
<v Speaker 1>her face, like, ugh, comebag. So when you go to

822
00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:58.280
<v Speaker 1>these things, make sure there's an etiquette there. Just because

823
00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:01.480
<v Speaker 1>they're dressed sexy and fun consigned and ship there is

824
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:03.519
<v Speaker 1>an etiicqutt be a human being. If you're listening to this,

825
00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:04.400
<v Speaker 1>you're a human being.

826
00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Again, that's such a tricky thing too, because we have

827
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:14.039
<v Speaker 2>yet to really implement that, like as a mainstream protocol.

828
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:17.599
<v Speaker 2>It shouldn't be implied, you know, like I have got

829
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:21.159
<v Speaker 2>to see some kind of statement on the site. You know,

830
00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know they put the screamers for people who

831
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:27.159
<v Speaker 2>purchase these passes yet and put these girls and etiquettes

832
00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:30.400
<v Speaker 2>on there because I know, I know the sex parties

833
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:34.599
<v Speaker 2>they have on their biodescription, like you know, how to

834
00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:39.400
<v Speaker 2>come dressed and your hygiene and being respectful and then

835
00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:42.119
<v Speaker 2>no one's obligated to do anything knows knows and no

836
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:47.159
<v Speaker 2>you know. Sure, but yeah, it's such a tricky thing,

837
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:50.239
<v Speaker 2>especially at that convention and being in this industry. A

838
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:54.079
<v Speaker 2>lot of people stereotype and get it twisted and assume that.

839
00:50:55.719 --> 00:50:59.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean people people don't understand that not everyone is

840
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:02.440
<v Speaker 2>the same, you know, everyone is different, not everyone. Some

841
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:05.719
<v Speaker 2>people do get off being objectified, Some people don't sure.

842
00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Some people like the extra attention. Some people don't. You know,

843
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:14.960
<v Speaker 2>some of us are extroverts, some of us are introverts,

844
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:16.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, so.

845
00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:20.840
<v Speaker 1>That Yeah, someone told me that recently, and that really

846
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:23.840
<v Speaker 1>really surprised me, because dumb, stupid brain me that took

847
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:26.400
<v Speaker 1>one psychology class in high school was like, well, these

848
00:51:26.480 --> 00:51:29.360
<v Speaker 1>girls are fucking on camera. They must at least be extroverts.

849
00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:32.559
<v Speaker 1>They must really be a bit. And so many people

850
00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:36.079
<v Speaker 1>I've talked to recently, big giant name born stars, have

851
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:39.199
<v Speaker 1>done giant gang bangs and this and that and come everywhere.

852
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:42.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that come everywhere, and they're just like, yeah,

853
00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:46.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm an introvert. I like to just kind of me too.

854
00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:50.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually an introvert as well, which is why I

855
00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:53.679
<v Speaker 2>always need extra time to recharge in between my travels,

856
00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:56.519
<v Speaker 2>and I don't go out unless it's the gym or

857
00:51:56.599 --> 00:52:01.480
<v Speaker 2>for work or my community volunteer activism and me being

858
00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:05.079
<v Speaker 2>primal and me also doing femdom on the side too,

859
00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:08.840
<v Speaker 2>I definitely like if I'm away from the gym too long,

860
00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:12.800
<v Speaker 2>I have less patience and tolerance around people. And I

861
00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:16.000
<v Speaker 2>know that about myself enough to like keep myself inside.

862
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Sure, sure, you know what, there's something there's something so

863
00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:26.360
<v Speaker 1>so mature or intelligent about that though, where like you

864
00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:28.840
<v Speaker 1>you said you were you weren't quite fifty one fifty,

865
00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:32.679
<v Speaker 1>but maybe fifty one forty eight and uh and and

866
00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:37.119
<v Speaker 1>and you pulled yourself out of that. You just pulled

867
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:40.159
<v Speaker 1>You just recognized one day, Hey this is shit. Let

868
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:42.760
<v Speaker 1>me get out of this. You just you know, recognize

869
00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:45.840
<v Speaker 1>that other that's very mature. And I think that's probably

870
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:48.519
<v Speaker 1>why you are successful in this and you will continue

871
00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:52.440
<v Speaker 1>to be successful because I think you understand that, yes,

872
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:54.360
<v Speaker 1>this can be fun, Yes this can be or, but

873
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:56.880
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a job too, you know, Exactly.

874
00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:03.119
<v Speaker 2>My first a VAN interview, she told me that it's

875
00:53:03.159 --> 00:53:05.360
<v Speaker 2>good to note that there are more levelheaded people in

876
00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:08.679
<v Speaker 2>this industry. And that's what I also bring to the table,

877
00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:15.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, Like I I'm very aware of how disillusioned

878
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:19.079
<v Speaker 2>I am of this industry, but also still optimistic and

879
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:24.159
<v Speaker 2>idealistic enough how it's still making progressive changes, you know,

880
00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:27.639
<v Speaker 2>and being more inclusive and diverse, and we're having we're

881
00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:31.800
<v Speaker 2>starting to have better safety protocols and better mentoring, you know,

882
00:53:32.039 --> 00:53:35.360
<v Speaker 2>for new people coming in out of this industry. And

883
00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:37.679
<v Speaker 2>like I said, I'm glad I got into this industry

884
00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:41.559
<v Speaker 2>with the life experience I already had because I first

885
00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:44.320
<v Speaker 2>moved out at eighteen. If I had gone into the

886
00:53:44.360 --> 00:53:48.440
<v Speaker 2>industry at eighteen with my old self sabotactry habits before

887
00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I started, before I went soul searching, before I started

888
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:55.639
<v Speaker 2>forgetting myself into people, I wouldn't have survived and made

889
00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:59.039
<v Speaker 2>it out alive. I honestly believe that, you know, I'm

890
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:02.159
<v Speaker 2>an I'm glad I'm not one of those statistics, which

891
00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:05.880
<v Speaker 2>is ironic, but that's why I see myself as a

892
00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:08.599
<v Speaker 2>game changer in this industry. You know, like I said,

893
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:10.400
<v Speaker 2>not all of us are superficial and not all of

894
00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:13.599
<v Speaker 2>us are shallow. You could bring wholesomeness into this industry

895
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:18.360
<v Speaker 2>and positivity, you know, and sex is healing when done right,

896
00:54:18.760 --> 00:54:21.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, when it's consensual, we take our power back.

897
00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:25.119
<v Speaker 2>That's what I've been trying to educate people on all

898
00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:28.400
<v Speaker 2>these podcasts and interviews that I've been doing, you know.

899
00:54:29.239 --> 00:54:32.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So let me let me ask you this last

900
00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:36.719
<v Speaker 1>question here, what is the end game? Are you making

901
00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:40.039
<v Speaker 1>porn at seventy five years old, which is totally it's

902
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:44.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're right, it is. But at the same time,

903
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:49.199
<v Speaker 1>there's a market for everyone. So if yeh hay, who

904
00:54:49.320 --> 00:54:51.960
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want that type of porn? Me I'm good. I'll

905
00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:55.400
<v Speaker 1>watch the younger stuff of you, the stuff in your

906
00:54:55.800 --> 00:55:00.400
<v Speaker 1>fifties or something. But more power to the women make it,

907
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:01.920
<v Speaker 1>and more power to the guys and buy it. I

908
00:55:01.960 --> 00:55:03.880
<v Speaker 1>don't give a shit. That's your business man. Whatever you're

909
00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:06.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna do, is that the end game to work in

910
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:09.719
<v Speaker 1>this industry forever is the end game to get big

911
00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:15.159
<v Speaker 1>enough financially you're out, good to go or what is it?

912
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:15.559
<v Speaker 1>Tell me?

913
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, let's see. Definitely there's a fetish and kink and

914
00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:25.159
<v Speaker 2>market for everything. I know that now because of this industry.

915
00:55:26.960 --> 00:55:30.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm so grateful to have been able to

916
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:32.559
<v Speaker 2>take care of my mental health these last three years

917
00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:37.000
<v Speaker 2>and find my authenticity where I've started to own up

918
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:41.920
<v Speaker 2>and accept the fact that I will have fans that

919
00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:45.000
<v Speaker 2>will appreciate and respect all these sides to me and

920
00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:47.719
<v Speaker 2>all these aspects to me. You know, I used to

921
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:52.599
<v Speaker 2>keep I used to keep those two separate, you know,

922
00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:56.280
<v Speaker 2>but now it's it's integrating in a good like harmonic way.

923
00:55:57.119 --> 00:56:02.079
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, my endgame and big picture really is, Yeah,

924
00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:05.599
<v Speaker 2>the more exposure I have, the more platforms I have,

925
00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:09.480
<v Speaker 2>the more I'm able to talk about what really matters

926
00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:13.639
<v Speaker 2>to me, which is actually mental health and certain social

927
00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:17.159
<v Speaker 2>justice issues. You know, like the more we're able to

928
00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:20.480
<v Speaker 2>have these deep conversations and I live for deep conversations

929
00:56:21.519 --> 00:56:25.679
<v Speaker 2>and these hard conversations, I think that's really where the

930
00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:29.039
<v Speaker 2>healing finally starts to happen in our communities. When it

931
00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:31.599
<v Speaker 2>starts with ourselves, you know, we'll be able to find

932
00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:34.960
<v Speaker 2>things that we could relate to. We could share our

933
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:38.159
<v Speaker 2>pain together and our grief together. And that's what I hope,

934
00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:45.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, calling myself a pandemic porn star that I

935
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:49.599
<v Speaker 2>hope to bring to the table, like we need healing

936
00:56:49.719 --> 00:56:52.559
<v Speaker 2>more than ever, especially in our communities where things are

937
00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:57.760
<v Speaker 2>so like stigmatized, you know, and there's not that type

938
00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:02.519
<v Speaker 2>of acceptance, and we need more levelheaded people because able

939
00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:06.559
<v Speaker 2>to balance the pros and cons, the hard truth, the realities,

940
00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:11.840
<v Speaker 2>but the beautiful struggle in it too, you know, yeah,

941
00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:14.239
<v Speaker 2>the human aspect to it.

942
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:20.760
<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, I mean I wrote that script before.

943
00:57:20.840 --> 00:57:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Let me write out the rest of your life. Here's

944
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:23.880
<v Speaker 1>where it is ready.

945
00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:30.239
<v Speaker 2>I'll admit I didn't think I would. Okay, this is

946
00:57:31.079 --> 00:57:35.000
<v Speaker 2>holy shit. I think this might be at least, uh,

947
00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:40.159
<v Speaker 2>my third or fourth year in this industry, and I

948
00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:41.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't think I was going to be in it this long,

949
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:47.719
<v Speaker 2>but but honestly, because of the pandemic and quarantine, it

950
00:57:47.880 --> 00:57:53.159
<v Speaker 2>has changed, like certain schedules, you know, certain stepbacks that

951
00:57:53.239 --> 00:57:56.599
<v Speaker 2>would have been different if if if I was in

952
00:57:56.719 --> 00:58:01.039
<v Speaker 2>it before. But I think, uh, that's that's a whole

953
00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:04.199
<v Speaker 2>other conversation too, in the pros and cons of having

954
00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:06.880
<v Speaker 2>all these new platforms now, which is good for people

955
00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:09.159
<v Speaker 2>who don't want to go out, probably better for introverts

956
00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:13.519
<v Speaker 2>don't want to have to fold people. But but that's

957
00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:17.360
<v Speaker 2>nothing with mental health as well. Like I I feel

958
00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:23.840
<v Speaker 2>like because I'm an introvert naturally, I don't other people's

959
00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:27.400
<v Speaker 2>opinions don't bother me as much. But I think that

960
00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:30.199
<v Speaker 2>it's really the extroverts in this industry that I think

961
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:35.280
<v Speaker 2>we're having a hard time integrating into conventional life if

962
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:37.760
<v Speaker 2>family and friends find out what they do because they

963
00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:41.800
<v Speaker 2>naturally thrive off of other people's energy, you know, And

964
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:50.480
<v Speaker 2>that's uh, that's something I hope. Uh you know again,

965
00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:55.000
<v Speaker 2>mental health, Uh, what our passions that should help get

966
00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:55.480
<v Speaker 2>us through.

967
00:58:56.039 --> 00:58:59.039
<v Speaker 1>Let me let me paint it for you. Here's here's

968
00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:01.840
<v Speaker 1>what it is really And you know, I try and

969
00:59:01.920 --> 00:59:05.960
<v Speaker 1>be funny, but here's what it is. Grow bigger, win

970
00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:10.159
<v Speaker 1>some avns, get some trophies, get some Performer of the

971
00:59:10.239 --> 00:59:14.559
<v Speaker 1>year stuff, and be the first one that actually succeeds

972
00:59:15.239 --> 00:59:22.199
<v Speaker 1>at starting a union in this industry. Oh that's look. Look, look,

973
00:59:23.159 --> 00:59:26.159
<v Speaker 1>you can implement any kind of mental health stuff you want,

974
00:59:26.519 --> 00:59:31.599
<v Speaker 1>social justice stuff you want. That can be you. Just

975
00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:34.440
<v Speaker 1>like where you went from sitting on or laying on

976
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:37.320
<v Speaker 1>your mom's couch or whatever it was, or the trauma

977
00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:40.159
<v Speaker 1>you had had. You went from that stuff to walk

978
00:59:40.199 --> 00:59:42.280
<v Speaker 1>in a red carpet at the av EN. You can

979
00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:46.239
<v Speaker 1>go from where you are right now to that president

980
00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:49.599
<v Speaker 1>of the union. You're smart enough to do it. You

981
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:51.719
<v Speaker 1>are driven enough, it seems like.

982
00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:57.920
<v Speaker 2>To do it, So do it. At this point, I

983
00:59:58.039 --> 01:00:02.719
<v Speaker 2>definitely have faith in Goddess and the multiverse surprise me

984
01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:08.920
<v Speaker 2>with things. That's for sure. That's probably on the drawing

985
01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:12.840
<v Speaker 2>board and vision board, and that's probably in the long

986
01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:15.920
<v Speaker 2>game version of it. But in the in my short

987
01:00:16.039 --> 01:00:20.119
<v Speaker 2>term goals, I'm just gonna keep having these these amazing,

988
01:00:20.199 --> 01:00:25.719
<v Speaker 2>beautiful mental health conversations along the way. Yeah, okay, all right,

989
01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:27.159
<v Speaker 2>finally good fight.

990
01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, my guests, Tonight, the Lovely Channing Crossfire.

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01:00:34.559 --> 01:00:37.920
<v Speaker 1>You can find links to you find links to it.

992
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<v Speaker 1>He now, am I what what's wrong? Can you hear me?

993
01:00:44.199 --> 01:00:45.119
<v Speaker 2>The floor? You're plugging.

994
01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:49.519
<v Speaker 1>It's okay, it's okay, You're good, You're good. This is

995
01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:52.280
<v Speaker 1>this is another fun one. I had a fun one

996
01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:57.280
<v Speaker 1>with another performer recently where it just like went on

997
01:00:57.840 --> 01:00:59.480
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I don't even know if we

998
01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:01.519
<v Speaker 1>talked the out sex at all. And I was like,

999
01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:04.360
<v Speaker 1>that's fine, good enough, I'll take it.

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01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:05.079
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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01:01:06.639 --> 01:01:08.519
<v Speaker 1>You can find the links to everything Channy does in

1002
01:01:08.559 --> 01:01:11.119
<v Speaker 1>the episode description below, but I really want to recommend

1003
01:01:11.199 --> 01:01:15.400
<v Speaker 1>you check out her only fans at Channey Crossfire. Channing,

1004
01:01:15.519 --> 01:01:17.679
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for coming on and having this

1005
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:20.760
<v Speaker 1>wonderful discussion with me. I think we accomplished a lot.

1006
01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:24.719
<v Speaker 1>I think you are amazing in your content. I feel

1007
01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:28.119
<v Speaker 1>somewhat bad for that dude you screamed at while you

1008
01:01:28.199 --> 01:01:34.360
<v Speaker 1>were blowing him letting. You didn't know, you didn't at him,

1009
01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:37.920
<v Speaker 1>you glared at him with smoky eyeshadow. I believe that

1010
01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:41.159
<v Speaker 1>fucking was enough to make me go like, oh this

1011
01:01:41.280 --> 01:01:42.440
<v Speaker 1>girl is terrifying.

1012
01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, hold on, I want to plug in

1013
01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:46.840
<v Speaker 2>two things?

1014
01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes, please please.

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01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:58.039
<v Speaker 2>Not Oh shit okay, please vote for me at gods

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<v Speaker 2>among his dot com slash contestants slash China Crossfire. That's

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<v Speaker 2>also on my link tree as well, with a list

1018
01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:11.079
<v Speaker 2>of both my safer work and non safer work activities.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. And last, support my friends' company called

1020
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<v Speaker 2>pornabus be'st of both worlds if you like porn and cannabis.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Donnie since his birthday is tomorrow and

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<v Speaker 2>he's one of the co founders.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, all of that below. There you go,

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<v Speaker 1>link tree correct.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for coming on with me tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me