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Speaker 1: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for checking out Going Deeper.

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I'm your host, Matt. I've got a great show planning

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for you tonight. You'll know my guest tonight from her

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appearances on websites such as bangbros dot com and the

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slightly last less ambiguous Gangbangcreampie dot com. You can find

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links to all of our social media and the episode

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description below, but I want to recommend you check out

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her only fans at Channy Crossfire. Ladies and gentlemen join

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me in welcoming the very sexy Channy Crossfire channing. How

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are you tonight?

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Speaker 2: Coast?

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Speaker 1: What part California? We're at California? Yeah, all right, all right?

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Were you good evening as well? Uh? Are you originally?

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Where are you originally from? No details, but like do

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you ever talk about that?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I'm proud to be a Cali born, Calie

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native and people can tell I'm not from around their

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area because I I'm friendly now, So I just randomly

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say a hided people on the street straighters, and they

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just look at me like, yeah from around here? Are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm in New Jersey, which is so adjacent to New

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York that yes, if I walk down the street and go, hi,

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how are you today? Someone will think I'm trying to

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fucking rob them of something. God it's rough. It's rough,

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but that's good to hear. You're okay. Let me ask

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you this the boring question. Everything starts with it. You

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go as depth full as you want to. It's just

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my audience may not know how'd you initially get into

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the adult entertainment industry? Because I want to get through

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all the basics because I have a question about your person.

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You just pointed something out and I want to I

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want to bring something up from some of your scenes.

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How did you initially get into the industry?

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Speaker 2: Okay, real talk. I think the the real domino effect was,

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uh my, my ex broke up with me. That was

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my last exclusive, monogamous of vanilla relationship. So I was

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a mix of that, and then I had two previous

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suicide attempts before that relationship, and it was a mix

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of that. And I was like, you know what, I

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need to go soul searching. I need to uh get

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started on my bucket listculus and it really went from there.

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Speaker 1: It took off. That was the fuse that led it.

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Speaker 2: Huh oh my gosh, yeah.

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Speaker 1: If it's not too personal, Can I ask how are

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you doing nowadays? I?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I should you not, As I've gone soul searching

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these last three years. Now I know what authenticity really means,

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what self care really means, and what self love really means.

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And the ironic part of that is I'm so glad

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I took that seriously first, like I set those intentions

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and had those goals in mind, or else I don't

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think I would have survived being in this type of

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adult entertainment industry, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, sure, I mean, really yeah, life is tough enough

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just by itself, you know, throwing in the fact that

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you're dealing with being a private contractor essentially you know,

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possibly doing your own booking or hiring an agent for that,

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shooting these scenes, figuring out how to market it properly,

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which is like eighty percent of the job nowadays. It

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seems like, oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that is the pro and con of

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in trade off of being so employed now and an entrepreneur.

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You know, there's that trade off. There's more flexibility, but

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there is more work. You know, it's not a conventional

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nine to five job, but be able to have like

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live life more on your own terms, like again real

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talk on more of that origin story of how I

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got into the industry. So yeah, I was in the

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mix of my last breakup and I called myself a

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pandemic porn start because I really got into it right

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before Quarantine happened. And the year before Quarantine, I was

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already going through that breakup I had. I was in

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a car accident with my ex, so I had a

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near life death experience and then had to move back

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into my mom's place and she used to be toxic,

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and then I had lost my job, so I had

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a head start before Quarantine to deal with it before

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shit really hit the fan. And then I was on

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my mom's couch for at least a year until I

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met it, until I had signs pointing me to go

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into the adult industry, you know again with my bucke

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list and Fuckulist, and I was like, you know what,

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I'm gonna take this leap of faith and go from there.

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And oh my gosh, I like I said, I've it

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just really helps that I made it such a positive journey,

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Like I'm not doing it for superficial, shallow reasons.

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Speaker 1: Right right, It's it's you know, it's such a great

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industry because I think so many of you girls, at

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least for sexuality and stuff like that, can really like

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find your place and find what you like and explore

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and find what you don't like. You know, you fucking

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hate and never want to do again. And that was

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awful and I don't like that. Go on, but you

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at least tried it, and you can at least say like,

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oh shit, I'm not into that, No, this and that.

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And it's only one aspect of your life, the sexuality part,

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but it can spider web out to every other aspect

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where you're now more organized, you're better with money, you're this,

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you're that, you learned how to do photoshop, like gaining I.

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Speaker 2: Mean hopefully, hopefully ideally that's what I hope most of

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the models that's what they're doing. But not everyone has

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good work ethic. Not everyone is, uh is mindful of

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the productive side to it. You know, some people really

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just want to to fuck you know, and not have

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those types of work ethics and work standards. You know.

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But yeah, like okay, I mean another easter egg with

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my origin story, with that, with my bucket list, fuckulist,

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uh before I was officially in industry. I started venturing out,

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checking out play parties, sex parties, parties that only existed

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in movies, you know. So and I'm just like, holy shit,

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these are real life gang bangs and orgies happening in

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real life, you know. And yeah, I started going to

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them more frequently. And then I got to the point where,

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you know what, I think I'm catching an STI, you know,

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because everyone everyone's wearing condoms, but no one's vetting for

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you know, for STI and Bax South. So I was like, okay,

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with me being this sexually active and this high sex strife,

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I'm getting tired of having symptoms, you know, because I

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would get tested once every three months. And now it

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was actually fetlife dot com where I found my first agent,

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you know, And that's the that's the website where I

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found all these parties. So that's where I met my

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first agent, and I was the main the main headline

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is I might as well get paid to have safe sex,

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you know, like going like having this type of like

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high drive and being a natural at it. You know.

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I was already familiar with a group dynamics, you know,

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and I was That's that's where the learning part comes

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in before the industry. When I was going to those parties,

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I was experimenting, like Okay, what I like and don't like,

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you know, evolving my disin docent boundaries, you know. And

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then I got into an industry and I took that

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with me, and then I grew from there.

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Speaker 1: So were you always like a very sexual person or

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was there a point where you you, not not in

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a negative way, but crossed that line where you're like, oh,

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I'm not tiptoe or maybe that first time you tiptoed

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over was it when you went to one of those clubs,

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or were you a little earlier than that with experimenting

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and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I already knew my sexuality was evolving since since

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I was little, Like I remember thinking in high school, Okay,

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I think i'm by I think I'm also into chicks, right,

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you know, during high school and after high school, and

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I remember thinking, oh, man, I'm starting to like transgenders

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as well, like both genders, you know, And that's when

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I knew, like my sexuality was evolving, So it went

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from me being bisexual too pan sexual to omi sexual.

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and my past relationships with my exes. You know, we

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were definitely like adventurous with each other, you know, but

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in regards to group dynamics, like me being able to

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get in my first three thimbs. Was that after the

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breakup and when I went to those parties.

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Speaker 1: Okay, not not to dredge up bad memories, but I

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have to know this. Did you break up with him?

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Did he break up with you? Was it just a

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mutual thing?

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Speaker 2: You know what? I really love that you asked that,

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because you're the first one to ask that. I totally understand.

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But disclaimer, I I already I've already made peace with

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all of that, you know, so I thank you for

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asking me that none of that's triggering anymore. But no,

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he like real talk. This is another reason why I'm

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a mental health advocate. He broke up with me, which

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I totally understand because at that time, like even though

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we have like we had a lot of things in

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common and definitely chemistry, Like not to speak for him,

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but at least to speak for myself. There were some

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childhood traumas that I didn't completely resolve and make peace with,

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and sometimes that would bleed into our relationship, you know,

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like I used to be insecure, and I used to

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hate myself, and I used to seless shame myself. And

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this was before I got into the industry. And there

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are moments where I had some toxic femininity, but I

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didn't realize it at the time. I was two in

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my head, so it was only being able to have

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that distance and growing apart and focusing more on myself.

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Sure I did all that wisdom and epiphany, like all

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those epiphanies finally came to me. So I still have

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love and respect for him. I'm just not in love

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with him anymore. Honestly, I have no regrets, like if

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he hadn't broken up with me, Like I try to

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take my own advice, like you should never. I'm at

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the point now where you should never be in a

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relationship to overcompensate, you know, you really have to learn

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to love yourself first, sure you know, and then everything

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else should feel like a bonus. You shouldn't have to

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overcompensate for someone. And yeah, I learned that the hard way,

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but better late than never, you know.

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, see, yeah, I ask that because I wonder

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did you, okay, did you step into that realm at all?

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different place in your life. You had had others things,

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you had dealing with trauma, the breakup, this and that.

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Speaker 2: Or no? Oh?

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Speaker 3: No, you know what I know, that's what I wasn't sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah that year.

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Speaker 2: That year, I was definitely going through a lot, and

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I was experimenting with a lot of things. I was

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really trying to find myself literally and soul searching. And

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uh that that was the first and last time I've

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experimented with drugs, like hard drugs, like I've had a

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few bumps of cocaine, and looking back, I'm really lucky,

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which is another reason why I advocate for one of

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my friends, a nonprofit companies called endoverdose dot net. So

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they have free openoid awareness training, free final test strips,

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narcana lockzoon. So there's that too.

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Speaker 1: One more one more time, can you give me that

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website one more time? I'm gonna I want to plug

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it here, but I my younger brother actually died of

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a heroin overdose, So it is you know, close to me.

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Please plug that website one more time and.

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Speaker 2: Overdose dot net e N D O V E R

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d O s E dot nets.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I'm gonna put that in the episode description

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as well. Uh, when people are down there checking out

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your Twitter and everything else, if you have someone in

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your life that suffers from that type of thing, definitely

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check out that link, you know, or if you're suffering

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with that yourself. So that was the first time you experimented,

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did you did you find that you had a personality

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that migrated towards overuse of those things?

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Speaker 2: You know what? That's another thing I because I was

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having such a hard year. Uh, it gave me that

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understanding of why I would experiment and try some things.

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that I've had previous self sabotaging habits to know not

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to be to dependent on it, you know, like the

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old me would have abused it. But because that whole year,

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I saw it as a make it or break it,

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like it was. It was my lifeline that year, like,

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not that I was fifty one fifty, I mean, I

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was definitely kind of unhinged. But something was telling me

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that year to just focus all my passions like a lifeline,

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you know, to make it through. Because yeah, honestly, because

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of everything I was going through, it would have it

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would have broken most people. I the only would have

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have attempted a third a suicide attempt. But instinctively and intuitively,

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I knew if I did at their time, it would

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actually pan out and it would actually be a success.

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because that's literally what I really focused on that whole year,

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to just keep my sanity in check, to keep me

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out of trouble, because that was I was starting to

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get angry at the world, uh that year, you know,

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and I was itching to get into fights. It got

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to that point. But like I said, I'm glad that

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broke me in a year before quarantine people, before collectively

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other people were starting to lose their ship, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, ask me about my go bag and my trunk, yeah,

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I know, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Definitely we did have one I I have more than

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a couple of go I do, I do.

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Speaker 1: I just bought a little mini shopple the other day

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basically the game passwords.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: I can't say any form of the answer in my

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say I made like say I was like soft drink?

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What would you say? Soft drink?

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Speaker 2: Soda?

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Speaker 1: Pop, soda brand?

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Speaker 2: Oh, Coca cola?

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Speaker 1: There you go, perfect, there you go. See you just

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throw out answers. I'll try and give you clues. Now

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here's the thing. These are all porn related categories. Okay, okay, okay,

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all right, okay, sixty nine seconds on the clock. You

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will start when I say it starts. You can pass

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it anytime. We'll come back to it if you have to,

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and good to go. Three two question number one, Uh

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dressing up like animals?

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Speaker 2: Oh fury.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Number two, woman in charge, don boss, lady,

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keep going first part of that moment. There you go,

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all right. Number two. Uh, not your mouth, pussy or.

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Speaker 2: Ask.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Number four, bunch of guys, one girl,

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gang very okay, uh, gang bang gang bang. Correct. Number five,

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bunch of guys, A bunch of guys, one girl, very

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sticky face. Okay. Number six, if you don't swallow you,

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there you go. Number seven, basic sex position, starting out

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on it. Everyone starts out on it.

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Speaker 2: Everyone starts okay, flacial.

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Speaker 1: No ten seconds. Yeah, there you go. Number eight two

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in the same body at the same time. Five double penetration,

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got it older, mature time time. There you go. Eight

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out of ten is pretty fucking good, though, okay, uh

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for a tiebreaker. According to ia FD dot com, the

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Internet Adult Film Database, which doesn't include certain things like

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OnlyFans or this or that. It's more just kind of

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like website mainstream type stuff for the tiebreaker. According to

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ia FD dot com as of this recording, how many

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male performers have you worked with?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I lost count. We're not even talking

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about before I got into nothing.

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Speaker 1: We're not talking about any of that. And we're not

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talking about any of the numbers. They don't count. You're

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gonna have a tough time getting into heaven after this one.

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Speaker 2: But to many, let's see, at least one hundred.

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Speaker 1: Twenty eight, at least one hundred, No, no, twenty eight

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ever since twenty eight? Can you hear me? Two eight?

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Speaker 2: What? Wait? You are any stats on me? No?

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Speaker 1: I told you On IAFD dot com they have they

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have a thing. It tells you everyone you've ever worked with. Yeah,

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and at the bottom it says, I think on record,

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that's on record. Yeah. See, you're almost like a nun.

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Twenty eight. It's pretty good. You're You're fine. I do

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want to talk about some of your content. I don't

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know if you're a porn star, I think, and tell

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me if I'm wrong. Maybe about your person. I think

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you're an artist who's really hot and enjoy sex. So

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you went, I'm gonna try and make this my art.

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Speaker 2: I really like that perspective.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah that if that at all sounded insulting, I

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didn't mean it that way. Oh okay, okay, Are are

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you artistic? Like? Have you been artistic throughout your life?

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Are you? And if you are, what is your medium?

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Whatever that medium is music? Like you said, is that.

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Speaker 2: In regards to my modeling work, like a lot of

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my photoshoots and.

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Speaker 1: Pictures eat in regards to you as a person.

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Speaker 2: As a person, Oh, I mean honestly, I think a

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lot of my my sex drive, me naturally being in

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this industry stems from me being an athlete. So in

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my vanilla life, I train martial arts and my so

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on fat life. What I love about that is not

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only can you find out where kings and fetishes are

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and how it narrows down the list when meeting other

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people instead of being around the bush, you get to

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learn your sex personality and your sex style, so that'll

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help find other people that are similar to you who

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would be more compatible. So I found out I'm more primal,

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and I think that translates into how I naturally portray

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myself on camera.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that primal is the term?

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Speaker 2: Is that?

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Speaker 1: Is that like an actual term like an actual.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll finish culture obedism world. Yeah, that's definitely a

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term for certain types of people and their sex styles, like,

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for example, biting and scratching. Not many people are into that,

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but the ones that are primal naturally are.

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Speaker 1: Is there is there an inverse to primal like dominant

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sub Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So what's amazing is that you don't have to be

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just one one main uh, one main style, sure, or

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one main sex identity. M Like you could be like certain,

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do you do smoke herbs and weed?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So you know how there's indica, tativas and hybrid, right,

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you can find out what kind of hybrids you are

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in the co dominant hybrid tativa dominant hybrid. So yeah, uh,

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with being dominant and sub if if you naturally ken

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me both dominant and submissive, which is me, I'm a switch.

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So that's okay. So at first, at first I saw

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myself as a switch being, being able to portray myself

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genuinely as dominant or sub depending on who I'm with

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and what kind of relationship dynamic I have with that person.

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And then I also found out that I'm primal, So

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ultimately I consider myself as a primal switch in the

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BDS some world and that is that where you're getting

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out with your question kind of.

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Speaker 1: But I liked your answer anyway because it gave me

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more information. But actually not at all. But I did

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like your answer. It did give me information, it wasn't

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at all what I was asking, is there is there

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an inverse to primal? Is there like a pamper, like

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someone who doesn't like anything at.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's an opposite or yani yang, right? I see,

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So the yani yang of dominance is submissive, So the

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yanni yang of primal would be of course a prey,

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someone that likes being chased, someone that likes being caught,

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someone that likes being dominated, and almost like an almost

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like a far away like how there are people that

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dress as dogs or puppies in that realm or who

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naturally have an affinity or identity or persona as as

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a cat or a dog or a puppy. Yeah, so

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that's where certain yeah, those certain personality types come into play.

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Speaker 1: So you can be so how does a okay, last

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question on this?

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Speaker 2: So that's the ironic part, And you know what, that's

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a really good question because I haven't thought of that

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angle before. So I'm only in a switch in the

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dominant substance, but I don't switch in a primal sense

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like naturally. If I find someone that's also primal or

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another dominant male, uh I would see them as equal,

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you know, or for our relationship dynamic to work, you know.

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But if if they're too dominant, or if they're too

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prideful to eat, egotistical and usually toxic, it gets to

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that point, then we're not going to get along.

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Speaker 1: Sure, So wait, you can't you yourself can't. I'm not

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to pray if that's no, no, no, no, no no.

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I was going to ask, can you be a primal

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sub and then does the dom have to be primal

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as well?

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Speaker 2: Or no? No? Okay, So no, A really good question there.

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Depending on who it is, I can be primal, So

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up if I see that person as an equal, you know,

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and like none of it is forced, none of it

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is pressured, and uh it usually it would feel natural,

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you know. And I only say primal in a way

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where the Okay. So I definitely have been with dozens

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of guys in and out of the industry, and surprisingly enough, uh,

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I usually come across a couple of other primals like me,

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like every dozen dudes. So me, it's rare, and it's

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like a treat, like you know, we're into like certainly

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real certain like kinky things. But I only emphasize primal

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because those are the those are the those usually are

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that the personality types that really like match like could

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be really on par with me, sure like such rally

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and personality.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I notice some of the primal stuff in

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some of your content, and and I'll be honest with you,

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I had a totally different perspective of your personality before

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I started like doving in listening to other interviews and

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here talking to you. Now you slight on me. Oh yeah,

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I'm a professional. Oh yeah, oh please. My wife teared

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up when I was nominated for an av N last year.

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You know, I have to I have to put some

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level of effort. Yeah, I mean, come on, I'm going

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I'm going up against plug talk. It's you know, that's fine,

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It's fine. I'll always be second place. So here's here's

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where I noticed that there's a scene you shot, and

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I'd like to ask you about that scene you shot

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for gloryholeswallows dot Com, which I believe is if I've

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emailed him before, Dave gentlemen named Dave perhaps sometimes Yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know if that's the Vegas one, Arizona one.

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Speaker 1: I think I see Arizona one. Okay, Okay, So for

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people who can't understand the concept of that name, Glory

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whole Swallows, it's exactly what it sounds like. But there's

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one part where this gentleman can't finish and he comes

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into the room and you are looking at him like, dude,

471
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,880
if we were praying Manti right now, and don't think

472
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,799
that's the plural, I would take your fucking head off.

473
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,279
You were like looking up at this dude like if

474
00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:39,240
I was him, and you're like blowing him at one

475
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,680
point and you're looking up at him. I'm like, yo,

476
00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:44,519
i'd be scared of her teeth right now, man, don't

477
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,160
fuck around. And then he has the audacity he's like, well,

478
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,400
I mean, could I fuck you? And you're just like, yeah, whatever,

479
00:29:51,799 --> 00:29:53,359
just get this shit done with.

480
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I give her that flashback. I totally

481
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:58,799
forgot that happened.

482
00:29:59,519 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: So you do remember that though, Yeah, it's funny.

483
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 2: Back to me, now, was that just it? I didn't

484
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,279
realize you kept off.

485
00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:15,559
Speaker 1: It's fun. Let me let me say, let me say this. No, no, no,

486
00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:17,880
it was it was the scene and I'd seen other

487
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,559
stuff you had done before, but it was the scene

488
00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:22,279
I seen where I was like, when you use the

489
00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:25,880
word primal, I go, oh, that is the definition, because

490
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,880
it almost looked again. It's all open for interpretation. I'm

491
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,319
going to ask you about that scene. But if you

492
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,680
were in a positive light, you could go like, oh

493
00:30:34,759 --> 00:30:37,039
my god, she just wants to finish this guy to

494
00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:40,359
get to the next one. It's so sexy. Blah blah blah. Really,

495
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,000
what I'm going to ask you is, was it like

496
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,440
later in the day and you were just like, motherfucker,

497
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,000
I need to wrap this, let's go.

498
00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: I mean I I was definitely insatiable, you know, like

499
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,640
I we wanted to move on to the to the

500
00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:07,599
next person that that side, that side of me only

501
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:14,200
came out because he he took a lot more work

502
00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:18,880
than the other guys, Like, uh, I don't know he

503
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:23,319
if he already jacked off that day, and I saved

504
00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:30,160
his pop shot because because uh, usually most guys they're amateurs.

505
00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:33,279
Usually most guys are professional. No went to save their

506
00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:37,559
pop shots. No went to edge you know, So I

507
00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:40,400
don't know if he was eating junk food not getting

508
00:31:40,519 --> 00:31:45,519
enough rest or or if he really needs a more

509
00:31:45,759 --> 00:31:51,559
like in person uh physical element to really get him closer.

510
00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:54,839
But you know, it's benefit of the doubt. I'm being understanding.

511
00:31:55,319 --> 00:31:57,119
But yes, I do have a side to me that

512
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,960
does get impatient, and I have a side to me.

513
00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:05,960
And the paring mantis is such a perfect analogy because

514
00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:10,599
at least once a month I do have have you

515
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,640
seen the movie Species? Yeah, at least once a month,

516
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:18,759
which is usually when I'm on my period, I get

517
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:25,160
extra horny, extra intense, uh, extra piste off at the

518
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:31,319
same time, so I legit I feel like I'm in heat.

519
00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:36,440
And there are times like biologically speaking, I just wanna

520
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,720
and I and that ties into my my genuine cream

521
00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:41,920
pie breeding fetish.

522
00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:45,319
Speaker 1: We'll have to touch on that obviously.

523
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,119
Speaker 2: So it is a real thing for me and me

524
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,839
being an authentic primal, like I generally do just wanna

525
00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:59,880
like fuck biologically for like the mating, fucking breeding purposes,

526
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:06,119
and I do have it in me where like I

527
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:13,039
have fantasized about killing Jesus Christ right after like like

528
00:33:13,839 --> 00:33:16,000
the analogy and epiphany, I'm like Okay, that makes sense.

529
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,799
And I don't know why that's the thing. It's like

530
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,440
how you guys just spuck so also you know, for

531
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:26,400
reading purposes, you know, not trying to put a lifelong partner.

532
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,599
But it is that thing biology speaking and an animal

533
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,720
kingdom like oh that clicks, that checks out?

534
00:33:34,599 --> 00:33:37,359
Speaker 1: What Okay, I got it? What is And I've heard

535
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,240
it before obviously it's not like some giant revelation.

536
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,519
Speaker 2: But to hearers too, like female spiders do the same

537
00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:48,599
thing too. Yeah, they kill right after they mate usually. Yeah,

538
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,319
they just only want uh, the offspring, you know, when

539
00:33:53,319 --> 00:33:53,880
they're fertile.

540
00:33:54,440 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, hear that, guys, Yeah, guys. Yeah, And you know

541
00:34:01,559 --> 00:34:05,519
what that She's not uncommon. Most women probably feel the

542
00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:08,119
same way once a month. Okay, I'm going to take

543
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:09,760
your fucking head off right now, sir.

544
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:11,559
Speaker 2: That's a group.

545
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,559
Speaker 1: And you know what, most of those guys are probably

546
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:17,800
listening to my show. If I'm being honest, I love you.

547
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,320
You're all great. U.

548
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 2: I mean that ties into sorry sidebar, like if there

549
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,280
was ever in a zombie apocalypse, like one of the

550
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,719
things one of the main motives for me to have

551
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,000
a different type of bird control where I don't have

552
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:39,760
to take a pill every day is for the zombie

553
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,920
pocalypse analogy, Like I it would be such a hassle

554
00:34:43,079 --> 00:34:46,559
to just go on my runs and find condoms, you know,

555
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,280
I should just have the implantation and not worry about

556
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,840
finding condoms during the zombie pocalypse. And I'm the type

557
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,440
of person that, please be honest and let me know

558
00:34:58,519 --> 00:35:01,400
if you got bitten, suck a time when we could

559
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,360
get our last fucking before you turn. I'm that type

560
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,480
of person that thinks of shit like that.

561
00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:10,079
Speaker 1: By the way, By the way, did we just write

562
00:35:10,119 --> 00:35:10,719
a script?

563
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: You know what?

564
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,679
Speaker 1: I never thought of hear me out. I never thought

565
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,280
of this. When the apocalypse happens, right, there's gonna be

566
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:23,639
like four forms of currency, okay, five, righty here, let

567
00:35:23,679 --> 00:35:33,360
me give them to you, cigarettes, toilet paper, alcohol, bullets, pussy.

568
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,920
There you go, those are your five types, right?

569
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: What if?

570
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: How about how about this script? Ready? A what are

571
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:44,639
they called in Vegas? Not a cat house? That's like

572
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,719
makes me sound like an eighty year old man. What

573
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,119
are they called house? Yeah, brothel? Brothel that was the word. Okay, brothel,

574
00:35:51,559 --> 00:35:54,480
it's a brothel. And then there's word from the outside

575
00:35:54,519 --> 00:35:57,000
that a zombie attack's broken out, So this group of

576
00:35:57,159 --> 00:36:00,840
rogue women go out and try and find the community

577
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,719
that they can fuck their way into. Now it's not

578
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,119
a porn though, it's just a strange script. And then

579
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:09,440
but here's the thing. That's only half of the movie.

580
00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:13,639
The other half is them now rising to power by

581
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,639
using themselves and their personalities and their bodies and blah

582
00:36:18,639 --> 00:36:21,119
blah blah to get up. There's your script, Go write it,

583
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,360
artist for it.

584
00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: I'm here for it.

585
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: Okay, let's find someone that'll write it, because I never will.

586
00:36:27,039 --> 00:36:28,920
But that's a good idea, Okay.

587
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: Sucker Punch and Mad Max, Yeah that's pretty good.

588
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll give you that soccer Punch. I got too

589
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,719
drunk and fell asleep. Uh my wife likes it, so

590
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:49,800
I'm sure it's a good movie. But yeah, she's pretty cool. Okay.

591
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,360
So let me ask you again. These people are gonna

592
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,679
be like, hey, Matt, talk about something.

593
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,559
Speaker 2: What is what?

594
00:36:57,679 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: Stop giving a script ideas, asshole in front and have

595
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:06,119
a conversation here. Uh, let me ask you. Have you

596
00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:14,199
not yet accomplished something on your fuck it bucket list? Sexually? Like,

597
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,079
in terms of the industry, is there a type of

598
00:37:16,159 --> 00:37:20,400
scene you've yet to shoot that you really want to,

599
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,719
or maybe it's a person that you really want to

600
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,840
work with you've just not been able to any of

601
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,440
those things. Tell me something that you haven't gotten to yet.

602
00:37:29,199 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 2: Okay, Well off top I thought of. I just brainstorm

603
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,840
like around five give or take things. For sure, I

604
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,159
have yet to get my uh A tentacle scene in.

605
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,679
I legit have a tentacle fetish okay, and and I

606
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,840
generally have again with me being a primal, I generally

607
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,840
have a vampire and wearable fetish as well.

608
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: All Right, well, I mean we're gonna come back to that. Obviously,

609
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,760
we're gonna we gotta take another break, but continue continue

610
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,119
with this short industry protocols.

611
00:38:02,159 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 2: Apparently down the grapevine, I heard that's still categorized as

612
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,159
BC reality, so that won't pan out on certain platforms

613
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,639
and certain certain spaces.

614
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: It's just it's it's it's I fight with X videos

615
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,320
getting videos uploaded just all the time, all the time.

616
00:38:21,519 --> 00:38:22,519
So yeah, I get it.

617
00:38:23,559 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 2: That means I would have to rig up three fuck

618
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:31,559
machines by myself and just attach tentacle dildos on them

619
00:38:31,639 --> 00:38:32,599
and just maybe worry.

620
00:38:33,559 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: It's you know what the you could do it and

621
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,880
someone will buy it. I mean, you're gorgeous and it's

622
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,199
a great idea and yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know.

623
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,159
You can find a way to sell it dropbox or

624
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:51,119
something like that. Oh yeah, yeah, so that's what Wait

625
00:38:51,159 --> 00:38:52,519
wait technical scene?

626
00:38:53,079 --> 00:38:54,559
Speaker 2: Yeah where will fetters scene?

627
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: Okay?

628
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: But okay, So aside from that, sexuality wise, I'm also

629
00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:06,039
attracted to all genders. I'm omnisexual, and that's similar to

630
00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:10,039
being pan sexual. What they both have in common is

631
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,840
being attracted to all genders. But the difference is that

632
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:19,400
when you're pan sexual, you focus on that person's main

633
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,239
identity and persona and how they want to portray themselves

634
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:29,800
as and present themselves as, whereas me being omnisexual, I

635
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,199
considered that as well take that into account, but I

636
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,639
also acknowledged their biological sex that they were originally born

637
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,039
with instead of just focusing on their personality.

638
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,679
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, all right, So.

639
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: Off cam, I've had sex with transgenders, but I had

640
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,320
to have an official one on cam, so that's on

641
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,199
my slash Spuckulist. And then last thing off the top

642
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,199
of my head is, uh, before I got into the industry,

643
00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:08,800
one of my favorite porn companies that used to watch

644
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,440
was Burning Angels.

645
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:11,039
Speaker 4: Yep.

646
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,519
Speaker 2: So it's still on my buglass slash fuckless to have

647
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,880
some kind of aintal through use with Joanna Angel and

648
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,960
small Hands. And it's crazy because I've crossed paths with

649
00:40:23,039 --> 00:40:25,000
them a couple of times when I finally started going

650
00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:28,880
to the A v N and those expos and conventions,

651
00:40:29,679 --> 00:40:34,199
and I still get shy around them. But yeah, I

652
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,880
think the next time I cross passed with them, I'm

653
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,360
just gonna suck it. Get it.

654
00:40:40,039 --> 00:40:44,199
Speaker 1: To two exonicas ago, I woke up to Johanna Angel,

655
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,280
who I had no idea, was so tiny, no idea,

656
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:51,199
and I just I go like this. I had like

657
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,239
a card like with my podcast stuff on it. How

658
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,280
you doing mat? And she just looked at me like

659
00:40:57,559 --> 00:41:01,079
get this fucking monster away from me, please. I don't

660
00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:04,039
blame her. I just came out of nowhere. It was terrified,

661
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,719
trying to get physical. It were in her bubble or no, no, no, no, no,

662
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,119
I'm not a fucking creep. No, I wasn't in your bubble?

663
00:41:12,199 --> 00:41:13,079
Speaker 2: Was that extra energy?

664
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm just I flop around like the Looney Tunes guy,

665
00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:21,199
what's his name? Gossamer, the Big red thing or I'm

666
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,559
like Tasmanian devil. I don't know. I'm a mess. And

667
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,000
she was terrified just because I was no, no, no.

668
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,079
She gave me the uh no no, no, no, no,

669
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,039
not at all, not a bitch face. She gave me

670
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:38,079
a somebody gets security, this guy's gonna try and hurt

671
00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:38,719
me face.

672
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 5: No.

673
00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: I did not come within her bubble. I was not

674
00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:43,559
more than an arm's length when I tried to handle

675
00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:45,719
my card and I didn't just jam it. I was like,

676
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,599
you know, hey, hi, was there a line? There was

677
00:41:51,079 --> 00:41:55,960
no The line had just maybe the line had just

678
00:41:56,079 --> 00:41:58,239
started to form. There were maybe two people, and I

679
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,960
didn't want to be in line. I didn't want any time.

680
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:01,880
I just wanted to give a business card, say hi,

681
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,559
my name is mad I work with these people. I

682
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,519
just wanted you to you know, I would love to

683
00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:08,559
have you on for an interview sometime. Blah blah.

684
00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: While she curved you real quick.

685
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: It wasn't it wasn't again, it wasn't her fault. Wasn't

686
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,880
her fault at all. I'm a big dumb monster. And

687
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,360
I came tumbling at her. And she was in New Jersey,

688
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,159
which is already terrifying.

689
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,639
Speaker 2: In the Jersey. That's a reputation.

690
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, the reputation of being the best the

691
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,079
Garden State having pork role. I understand, we got it.

692
00:42:29,199 --> 00:42:32,960
Thanks theahs. Yeah yeah yeah, I mean yeah, Like.

693
00:42:33,039 --> 00:42:37,079
Speaker 2: You said, I don't blame her like me being a model.

694
00:42:38,159 --> 00:42:40,400
It's definitely hit or miss with me too. Like I,

695
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,760
I honestly can't always look friendly all the time. I'll

696
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,119
be honest about that. And I already naturally had my

697
00:42:49,199 --> 00:42:51,920
guard up because I didn't grow up sheltered or privileged,

698
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,239
so I natually don't trust people anyways. So that's something

699
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,920
that I even I have to balance is keeping myself

700
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,679
in check with balancing thing friendly generally trying to be

701
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,800
generally friendly to fans, you know, and showing love, but

702
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:15,119
also being wary of like other people's intentions, you know,

703
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,360
like because there you know, there are always predators around

704
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,199
and people trying to take advantage of other people.

705
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,559
Speaker 5: When the world tells you to go away, stop leave,

706
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,199
go don't instead just come.

707
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 2: Come.

708
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,119
Speaker 5: The New Fragrance by the podcast that made You Squirt

709
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,519
available now at your Worst Friend dot com. Come here,

710
00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:47,320
come there, come anywhere, just come.

711
00:43:54,679 --> 00:43:58,119
Speaker 1: So, as a fan, what is the best way for

712
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,400
me to approach, you know, a performer in public. They're

713
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,880
they're obviously there's gonna be some people you should have

714
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,480
never approached at all, and you should never approach aggressively.

715
00:44:08,559 --> 00:44:10,840
I don't mean by that, I mean almost like like

716
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,079
if I were in a situation like this where I

717
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:14,039
would say, you know.

718
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 6: Excuse me, are you chanting crossfire? I love your content?

719
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,440
You know, would you mind if I had an autograph

720
00:44:19,559 --> 00:44:21,480
or a picture or something like that like that that

721
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,920
is I'm not even like playing that up. I'm just

722
00:44:24,039 --> 00:44:26,719
not that guy where I go up aggressively. If I

723
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,159
come up aggressively, it's because I'm a big dumb animal.

724
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,480
It's not because I'm trying to be aggressive. So, dude,

725
00:44:32,559 --> 00:44:34,840
So what is the best way for a fan to

726
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,840
if they were to approach you outside of a convention?

727
00:44:38,119 --> 00:44:41,519
And then maybe a convention is not not different in

728
00:44:41,639 --> 00:44:43,960
that they're allowed to grab you or anything, but it's

729
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,599
a little more understanding because you're at the thing kind

730
00:44:46,599 --> 00:44:47,000
of you know.

731
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it really depends. Honestly, I try to give

732
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,519
people the benefit of the doubt. You know, people get excited.

733
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,360
People have different personalities. Maybe they're the spectrum, maybe they

734
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,239
have a d d uh.

735
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, And.

736
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,559
Speaker 2: And I can't speak for other models, but at least

737
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:16,760
for myself, like uh, approaching me like with my personality type,

738
00:45:18,159 --> 00:45:24,679
definitely like don't come at me too fast, definitely not

739
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:30,800
within my bubble and my space. A good safe, a

740
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:36,400
good safe, respectful distance boundaries, you know. And if if

741
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,679
we're already in like a convention exposed setting and an

742
00:45:39,679 --> 00:45:42,400
adult setting, then yeah, go for it, you know, ask

743
00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:45,920
me if I'm chanting crossfire, ask me to take a picture,

744
00:45:46,119 --> 00:45:49,719
you know, be respectful of course. But if you're in

745
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,079
like a vanilla setting, you know, in public, then yeah,

746
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,280
you know, I guess some implied etiquette of you know,

747
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,360
like you know, with whispering or uh, just like some

748
00:46:01,639 --> 00:46:02,639
acknowledgment you know.

749
00:46:04,679 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: But don't bother people when they're eating. Well, if you

750
00:46:10,039 --> 00:46:13,239
if you desperately want like annogree for a picture or something,

751
00:46:13,679 --> 00:46:15,719
you may have to just wait and then don't be

752
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,519
a creep about it. Don't stand behind them.

753
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,679
Speaker 2: Another yeah etiquet across the board too.

754
00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:23,559
Speaker 1: When they're eating or with badly.

755
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 2: Really it's hard to balance, you know, I understand being opportunistic,

756
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,400
like this might be the only change you see this

757
00:46:31,559 --> 00:46:36,400
person which I totally understand. It's it's such a thing

758
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:41,400
to balance, you know, but everyone want's mood fluctuates and changes,

759
00:46:42,199 --> 00:46:45,679
you know, Like sometimes i could be friendly and I'm open,

760
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,360
you know, uh to embracing fans, and then sometimes I'm

761
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:57,199
just like fuck off, you know. But across the board

762
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:03,079
in regards to people's safety, yeah, just just being more

763
00:47:03,199 --> 00:47:08,360
careful and you know, since I have of consent and

764
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,519
permission to ask if it's okay, sick picture or even

765
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,519
like just some people are okay with just a simple

766
00:47:15,639 --> 00:47:18,159
like acknowledgment and high you know.

767
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: But you know what, that's what makes the conventions so great.

768
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,920
They're an outlet for those things. You can go and

769
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,000
get your autographs, you can get your pictures. Last year

770
00:47:29,079 --> 00:47:31,280
we went and I watched. I made my wife watch

771
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,559
actually because it was hilarious. My wife is not she's

772
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:35,719
not a prude, but she's much more vanilla than me

773
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,679
because I'm a pig. And we watched, and I was

774
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,320
going to talk to Alex Cole because we had been

775
00:47:42,679 --> 00:47:45,239
emailing back and forth, and then we both kind of

776
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,679
just fell off and I wanted to introduce myself again.

777
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,039
So I come running at her and no, I'm just kidding.

778
00:47:51,639 --> 00:47:54,119
I respectfully waited in line. But the gentleman in front

779
00:47:54,119 --> 00:47:58,960
of us was a true gentleman, and he paid Alex

780
00:47:59,079 --> 00:48:01,159
the whatever amount and then he laid on the floor

781
00:48:01,199 --> 00:48:03,000
and for five minutes she rubbed her feet in his

782
00:48:03,199 --> 00:48:06,880
mouth with her socks on. And I was like, this

783
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:08,960
is fun. This is a fun industry.

784
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:12,639
Speaker 2: But we hold on. Yeah, and I'm curious about thee

785
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:13,480
was she needing?

786
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 1: I didn't see it. I didn't see it. She it

787
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,199
was behind the podium. I made my wife go around

788
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,840
and look. Okay, but I didn't look because I mean,

789
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:27,039
I've seen I mean, I'm so desensitized everything. It would

790
00:48:27,079 --> 00:48:29,840
have been fine if that guy was drinking dumpster juice

791
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,000
with her feet in his face. I would have been like, Yeah,

792
00:48:32,039 --> 00:48:38,360
that's normal, that's normal with the shit I've seen so so,

793
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,679
but those conventions are for that type of thing. Go

794
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:43,360
get your picture.

795
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:47,639
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's almost like sex positivity and body positivity for sure.

796
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: But I will say there's an etiquette at these things

797
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,880
as well. It's not just a free for all. I

798
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,840
felt so bad. Last last year we met up with

799
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,320
someone I had interviewed a few times. She's the only

800
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,800
fans performer blew up. I love her. She is just

801
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,639
a sweetheart. Cat karma or gasmic people check her out

802
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,719
if you haven't seen her before. But her and her

803
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,159
husband produced a lot of gang bang content, good stuff. Anyway,

804
00:49:12,519 --> 00:49:14,760
I met them for the first time, and I saw

805
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,079
a lot of guys like, because she's not some big

806
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,519
name with security or anything, they were super disrespectful. At

807
00:49:21,519 --> 00:49:22,800
the end of the night, I was like, I wanted

808
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,239
to say goodbye. It was a pleasure meeting you this

809
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:26,719
and that. You know, I really loved you.

810
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 2: Guys.

811
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,639
Speaker 1: If you're here next year, maybe we could do dinner

812
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,079
or something like that. And then the next guy behind

813
00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:32,679
me after I said bye kind of just walks up

814
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,199
and like slaps her ass and he's like, let's take picture.

815
00:49:37,519 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 2: Again. This is.

816
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,039
Speaker 1: Her first year at one of these things. She kind

817
00:49:42,119 --> 00:49:43,800
I saw the look on her face and I was

818
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,440
just kind of and she didn't say anything. And maybe

819
00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:49,239
I'm drawling something out of nothing. I'm just telling you

820
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,320
what I saw, But I saw like this look on

821
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,039
her face, like, ugh, comebag. So when you go to

822
00:49:55,159 --> 00:49:58,280
these things, make sure there's an etiquette there. Just because

823
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,480
they're dressed sexy and fun consigned and ship there is

824
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,519
an etiicqutt be a human being. If you're listening to this,

825
00:50:03,639 --> 00:50:04,400
you're a human being.

826
00:50:04,679 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: Again, that's such a tricky thing too, because we have

827
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:14,039
yet to really implement that, like as a mainstream protocol.

828
00:50:14,119 --> 00:50:17,599
It shouldn't be implied, you know, like I have got

829
00:50:17,639 --> 00:50:21,159
to see some kind of statement on the site. You know,

830
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,000
I don't know they put the screamers for people who

831
00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:27,159
purchase these passes yet and put these girls and etiquettes

832
00:50:27,199 --> 00:50:30,400
on there because I know, I know the sex parties

833
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,599
they have on their biodescription, like you know, how to

834
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:39,400
come dressed and your hygiene and being respectful and then

835
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,119
no one's obligated to do anything knows knows and no

836
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:47,159
you know. Sure, but yeah, it's such a tricky thing,

837
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,239
especially at that convention and being in this industry. A

838
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,079
lot of people stereotype and get it twisted and assume that.

839
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,599
I mean people people don't understand that not everyone is

840
00:50:59,639 --> 00:51:02,440
the same, you know, everyone is different, not everyone. Some

841
00:51:02,519 --> 00:51:05,719
people do get off being objectified, Some people don't sure.

842
00:51:06,639 --> 00:51:11,760
Some people like the extra attention. Some people don't. You know,

843
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:14,960
some of us are extroverts, some of us are introverts,

844
00:51:15,079 --> 00:51:16,280
you know, so.

845
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: That Yeah, someone told me that recently, and that really

846
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,840
really surprised me, because dumb, stupid brain me that took

847
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,400
one psychology class in high school was like, well, these

848
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,360
girls are fucking on camera. They must at least be extroverts.

849
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,559
They must really be a bit. And so many people

850
00:51:32,639 --> 00:51:36,079
I've talked to recently, big giant name born stars, have

851
00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:39,199
done giant gang bangs and this and that and come everywhere.

852
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,599
Oh my god, that come everywhere, and they're just like, yeah,

853
00:51:42,599 --> 00:51:46,639
I'm an introvert. I like to just kind of me too.

854
00:51:47,159 --> 00:51:50,639
Speaker 2: I'm actually an introvert as well, which is why I

855
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,679
always need extra time to recharge in between my travels,

856
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,519
and I don't go out unless it's the gym or

857
00:51:56,599 --> 00:52:01,480
for work or my community volunteer activism and me being

858
00:52:01,559 --> 00:52:05,079
primal and me also doing femdom on the side too,

859
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,840
I definitely like if I'm away from the gym too long,

860
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,800
I have less patience and tolerance around people. And I

861
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,000
know that about myself enough to like keep myself inside.

862
00:52:17,199 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, you know what, there's something there's something so

863
00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:26,360
so mature or intelligent about that though, where like you

864
00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:28,840
you said you were you weren't quite fifty one fifty,

865
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,679
but maybe fifty one forty eight and uh and and

866
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:37,119
and you pulled yourself out of that. You just pulled

867
00:52:37,199 --> 00:52:40,159
You just recognized one day, Hey this is shit. Let

868
00:52:40,199 --> 00:52:42,760
me get out of this. You just you know, recognize

869
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,840
that other that's very mature. And I think that's probably

870
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,519
why you are successful in this and you will continue

871
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:52,440
to be successful because I think you understand that, yes,

872
00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:54,360
this can be fun, Yes this can be or, but

873
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,880
it's it's a job too, you know, Exactly.

874
00:52:58,599 --> 00:53:03,119
Speaker 2: My first a VAN interview, she told me that it's

875
00:53:03,159 --> 00:53:05,360
good to note that there are more levelheaded people in

876
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,679
this industry. And that's what I also bring to the table,

877
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:15,159
you know, Like I I'm very aware of how disillusioned

878
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:19,079
I am of this industry, but also still optimistic and

879
00:53:19,199 --> 00:53:24,159
idealistic enough how it's still making progressive changes, you know,

880
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:27,639
and being more inclusive and diverse, and we're having we're

881
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,800
starting to have better safety protocols and better mentoring, you know,

882
00:53:32,039 --> 00:53:35,360
for new people coming in out of this industry. And

883
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,679
like I said, I'm glad I got into this industry

884
00:53:38,119 --> 00:53:41,559
with the life experience I already had because I first

885
00:53:41,679 --> 00:53:44,320
moved out at eighteen. If I had gone into the

886
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:48,440
industry at eighteen with my old self sabotactry habits before

887
00:53:48,679 --> 00:53:52,480
I started, before I went soul searching, before I started

888
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,639
forgetting myself into people, I wouldn't have survived and made

889
00:53:55,679 --> 00:53:59,039
it out alive. I honestly believe that, you know, I'm

890
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,159
an I'm glad I'm not one of those statistics, which

891
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,880
is ironic, but that's why I see myself as a

892
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,599
game changer in this industry. You know, like I said,

893
00:54:08,679 --> 00:54:10,400
not all of us are superficial and not all of

894
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,599
us are shallow. You could bring wholesomeness into this industry

895
00:54:14,159 --> 00:54:18,360
and positivity, you know, and sex is healing when done right,

896
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,840
you know, when it's consensual, we take our power back.

897
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,119
That's what I've been trying to educate people on all

898
00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:28,400
these podcasts and interviews that I've been doing, you know.

899
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, So let me let me ask you this last

900
00:54:32,119 --> 00:54:36,719
question here, what is the end game? Are you making

901
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,039
porn at seventy five years old, which is totally it's

902
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,000
you know, you're right, it is. But at the same time,

903
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:49,199
there's a market for everyone. So if yeh hay, who

904
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,960
doesn't want that type of porn? Me I'm good. I'll

905
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,400
watch the younger stuff of you, the stuff in your

906
00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:00,400
fifties or something. But more power to the women make it,

907
00:55:00,519 --> 00:55:01,920
and more power to the guys and buy it. I

908
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,880
don't give a shit. That's your business man. Whatever you're

909
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,760
gonna do, is that the end game to work in

910
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,719
this industry forever is the end game to get big

911
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:15,159
enough financially you're out, good to go or what is it?

912
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:15,559
Tell me?

913
00:55:16,679 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 2: Well, let's see. Definitely there's a fetish and kink and

914
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,159
market for everything. I know that now because of this industry.

915
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,559
I'm just I'm so grateful to have been able to

916
00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:32,559
take care of my mental health these last three years

917
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,000
and find my authenticity where I've started to own up

918
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,920
and accept the fact that I will have fans that

919
00:55:42,039 --> 00:55:45,000
will appreciate and respect all these sides to me and

920
00:55:45,039 --> 00:55:47,719
all these aspects to me. You know, I used to

921
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:52,599
keep I used to keep those two separate, you know,

922
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,280
but now it's it's integrating in a good like harmonic way.

923
00:55:57,119 --> 00:56:02,079
And yeah, my endgame and big picture really is, Yeah,

924
00:56:02,159 --> 00:56:05,599
the more exposure I have, the more platforms I have,

925
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,480
the more I'm able to talk about what really matters

926
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,639
to me, which is actually mental health and certain social

927
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,159
justice issues. You know, like the more we're able to

928
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,480
have these deep conversations and I live for deep conversations

929
00:56:21,519 --> 00:56:25,679
and these hard conversations, I think that's really where the

930
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,039
healing finally starts to happen in our communities. When it

931
00:56:29,079 --> 00:56:31,599
starts with ourselves, you know, we'll be able to find

932
00:56:31,639 --> 00:56:34,960
things that we could relate to. We could share our

933
00:56:35,039 --> 00:56:38,159
pain together and our grief together. And that's what I hope,

934
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:45,360
you know, calling myself a pandemic porn star that I

935
00:56:45,519 --> 00:56:49,599
hope to bring to the table, like we need healing

936
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,559
more than ever, especially in our communities where things are

937
00:56:52,639 --> 00:56:57,760
so like stigmatized, you know, and there's not that type

938
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:02,519
of acceptance, and we need more levelheaded people because able

939
00:57:02,599 --> 00:57:06,559
to balance the pros and cons, the hard truth, the realities,

940
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but the beautiful struggle in it too, you know, yeah,

941
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the human aspect to it.

942
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Speaker 1: And so yeah, I mean I wrote that script before.

943
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,760
Let me write out the rest of your life. Here's

944
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:23,880
where it is ready.

945
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Speaker 2: I'll admit I didn't think I would. Okay, this is

946
00:57:31,079 --> 00:57:35,000
holy shit. I think this might be at least, uh,

947
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,159
my third or fourth year in this industry, and I

948
00:57:40,239 --> 00:57:41,920
didn't think I was going to be in it this long,

949
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:47,719
but but honestly, because of the pandemic and quarantine, it

950
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:53,159
has changed, like certain schedules, you know, certain stepbacks that

951
00:57:53,239 --> 00:57:56,599
would have been different if if if I was in

952
00:57:56,719 --> 00:58:01,039
it before. But I think, uh, that's that's a whole

953
00:58:01,079 --> 00:58:04,199
other conversation too, in the pros and cons of having

954
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,880
all these new platforms now, which is good for people

955
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,159
who don't want to go out, probably better for introverts

956
00:58:09,559 --> 00:58:13,519
don't want to have to fold people. But but that's

957
00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:17,360
nothing with mental health as well. Like I I feel

958
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:23,840
like because I'm an introvert naturally, I don't other people's

959
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,400
opinions don't bother me as much. But I think that

960
00:58:27,519 --> 00:58:30,199
it's really the extroverts in this industry that I think

961
00:58:30,239 --> 00:58:35,280
we're having a hard time integrating into conventional life if

962
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,760
family and friends find out what they do because they

963
00:58:38,079 --> 00:58:41,800
naturally thrive off of other people's energy, you know, And

964
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:50,480
that's uh, that's something I hope. Uh you know again,

965
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:55,000
mental health, Uh, what our passions that should help get

966
00:58:55,079 --> 00:58:55,480
us through.

967
00:58:56,039 --> 00:58:59,039
Speaker 1: Let me let me paint it for you. Here's here's

968
00:58:59,159 --> 00:59:01,840
what it is really And you know, I try and

969
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,960
be funny, but here's what it is. Grow bigger, win

970
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:10,159
some avns, get some trophies, get some Performer of the

971
00:59:10,239 --> 00:59:14,559
year stuff, and be the first one that actually succeeds

972
00:59:15,239 --> 00:59:22,199
at starting a union in this industry. Oh that's look. Look, look,

973
00:59:23,159 --> 00:59:26,159
you can implement any kind of mental health stuff you want,

974
00:59:26,519 --> 00:59:31,599
social justice stuff you want. That can be you. Just

975
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,440
like where you went from sitting on or laying on

976
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,320
your mom's couch or whatever it was, or the trauma

977
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,159
you had had. You went from that stuff to walk

978
00:59:40,199 --> 00:59:42,280
in a red carpet at the av EN. You can

979
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:46,239
go from where you are right now to that president

980
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,599
of the union. You're smart enough to do it. You

981
00:59:50,119 --> 00:59:51,719
are driven enough, it seems like.

982
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 2: To do it, So do it. At this point, I

983
00:59:58,039 --> 01:00:02,719
definitely have faith in Goddess and the multiverse surprise me

984
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:08,920
with things. That's for sure. That's probably on the drawing

985
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,840
board and vision board, and that's probably in the long

986
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,920
game version of it. But in the in my short

987
01:00:16,039 --> 01:00:20,119
term goals, I'm just gonna keep having these these amazing,

988
01:00:20,199 --> 01:00:25,719
beautiful mental health conversations along the way. Yeah, okay, all right,

989
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:27,159
finally good fight.

990
01:00:27,679 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, my guests, Tonight, the Lovely Channing Crossfire.

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01:00:34,559 --> 01:00:37,920
You can find links to you find links to it.

992
01:00:38,199 --> 01:00:40,440
He now, am I what what's wrong? Can you hear me?

993
01:00:44,199 --> 01:00:45,119
Speaker 2: The floor? You're plugging.

994
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,519
Speaker 1: It's okay, it's okay, You're good, You're good. This is

995
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,280
this is another fun one. I had a fun one

996
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:57,280
with another performer recently where it just like went on

997
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,480
and I was like, I don't even know if we

998
01:00:59,639 --> 01:01:01,519
talked the out sex at all. And I was like,

999
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,360
that's fine, good enough, I'll take it.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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01:01:06,639 --> 01:01:08,519
Speaker 1: You can find the links to everything Channy does in

1002
01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:11,119
the episode description below, but I really want to recommend

1003
01:01:11,199 --> 01:01:15,400
you check out her only fans at Channey Crossfire. Channing,

1004
01:01:15,519 --> 01:01:17,679
thank you so much for coming on and having this

1005
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,760
wonderful discussion with me. I think we accomplished a lot.

1006
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,719
I think you are amazing in your content. I feel

1007
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,119
somewhat bad for that dude you screamed at while you

1008
01:01:28,199 --> 01:01:34,360
were blowing him letting. You didn't know, you didn't at him,

1009
01:01:34,719 --> 01:01:37,920
you glared at him with smoky eyeshadow. I believe that

1010
01:01:38,159 --> 01:01:41,159
fucking was enough to make me go like, oh this

1011
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:42,440
girl is terrifying.

1012
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 2: Oh my god, hold on, I want to plug in

1013
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:46,840
two things?

1014
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: Yes, please please.

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01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:58,039
Speaker 2: Not Oh shit okay, please vote for me at gods

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among his dot com slash contestants slash China Crossfire. That's

1017
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also on my link tree as well, with a list

1018
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of both my safer work and non safer work activities.

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There you go. And last, support my friends' company called

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pornabus be'st of both worlds if you like porn and cannabis.

1021
01:02:21,159 --> 01:02:23,760
Shout out to Donnie since his birthday is tomorrow and

1022
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he's one of the co founders.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, all of that below. There you go,

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link tree correct.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on with me tonight.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me