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Speaker 1: DE Talk Station Extra Special Wednesday got the Big Picture
Speaker 1: with Jack Avdan, the legal advice from Steve Gooden, and
Speaker 1: now we get to hear from listener favorite Congressman Thomas Massey.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the fifty five krc Morning Show, my friend.
Speaker 1: It's always my distinct pleasure to have you on the program.
Speaker 2: Great to be on the show with you here from
Speaker 2: the swamp. It's actually snowing here in the swamp.
Speaker 1: Well, nobody's going into the office for work anymore, so
Speaker 1: the traffic was really light. Yeah, I imagine. I think
Speaker 1: that's I think.
Speaker 2: That's because the federal employees quit instead of showing up
Speaker 2: for work.
Speaker 1: That may be that, yes, and there'd be more than
Speaker 1: they are going to be quitting soon or losing their
Speaker 1: situation if Donald Trump has its way, before we get
Speaker 1: to eliminating the Department of Education, real quick here, let's
Speaker 1: get it out of the way, because people are asking
Speaker 1: you have any consideration running for Mitch McConnell's seat. No, okay,
Speaker 1: I tell people.
Speaker 2: It's it's the same circus with different clowns. Like I
Speaker 2: could literally see the Senate side here from my office,
Speaker 2: and I have no desire to go over there.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, We're just we're happy that you were there
Speaker 1: in elected capacity, just keeping an eye on things and
Speaker 1: at least speaking truth to power, because you're good at
Speaker 1: doing that. All right, let's start with it. But there was.
Speaker 1: But I did see a poll yesterday and said, I'm
Speaker 1: already in second place.
Speaker 2: So i'my shippy about that.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 2: Daniel Cameron and the lead. You know, he was our
Speaker 2: governor primary winner, so yeah, like, hey.
Speaker 1: I'll take it that way. Place. It's not bad for
Speaker 1: not even getting in the race. Yeah, hat's not even
Speaker 1: in the ring and you're still running in the second place.
Speaker 1: That's great. All right. Can we eliminate the Department of Education.
Speaker 1: I know they just canceled a one hundred million dollar
Speaker 1: DEI contract, and that in and of itself is bad,
Speaker 1: But you got what eight hundred and eighty one million
Speaker 1: dollars in contracts coming into the Department of Education. I
Speaker 1: guess I have to ask, maybe perhaps a rhetorical question,
Speaker 1: what the hell is the Department of Education? Really doing
Speaker 1: to educate our children. That's a great question.
Speaker 2: There are four thousand bureaucrats at the Department of Education
Speaker 2: making an average of one hundred.
Speaker 1: Thousand dollars a piece per year. That is that's money.
Speaker 2: Okay, there's three thousand counties in the United States and
Speaker 2: we've got four thousand bureaucrats. So every county could get
Speaker 2: another school teacher and you could pay one hundred thousand
Speaker 2: dollars a year if you just take all the money
Speaker 2: that's being wasted in DC, not to mention the money
Speaker 2: that's being misdirected by the Department of Education. Less than
Speaker 2: ten percent of K through twelve education is funded by
Speaker 2: the federal Department of Education. Yet at least half of
Speaker 2: the bureaucracy at the state and local level is caused
Speaker 2: by the Department of Education. You would have more money
Speaker 2: for teaching children if you just gave it to the
Speaker 2: states or let the states keep it.
Speaker 1: That's why I introduced HR. Eight ninety nine.
Speaker 2: It's I think it's the shortest bill in Congress, Like
Speaker 2: it's one sentence long. I found the problem is my
Speaker 2: colleagues all they do is read the title.
Speaker 1: They don't read the bill.
Speaker 2: So I made a bill whose text was about as
Speaker 2: short as the title.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 2: It says, on December thirty first, twenty twenty six, the
Speaker 2: Department of Education shall terminate.
Speaker 1: That is the whole bill. Oh, that's beautiful, we're keeping
Speaker 1: it simple. Stupid. Yeah, well, you know, you know, you
Speaker 1: could call it that. The bill could be called that.
Speaker 2: The only complaint I've got is people want to know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: why we have to wait till twenty twenty six. Now,
Speaker 2: in all seriousness, there are a lot of things at
Speaker 2: the Department of Education. People say, well, what would you
Speaker 2: do with these things if the Department of Education cease
Speaker 2: to exist? So, for instance, student loans could go to treasury.
Speaker 2: Treasury could manage student loans. Sure, hopefully we're going to
Speaker 2: have people pay them back. The other question that you
Speaker 2: get is, well, what about head Start?
Speaker 1: Well, guess what.
Speaker 2: Head Start ain't even in the Department of Education. Head
Speaker 2: Start is under the under HHS. And then they say, well,
Speaker 2: what about the school lunch program? Don't you care about
Speaker 2: the school lunch program? The school lunch program is under
Speaker 2: the USDA. So all of the stuff that people care
Speaker 2: about that they think the Department of Education does, they
Speaker 2: don't even do, so, get rid of it.
Speaker 1: Get rid of it. Yeah, I don't think anybody be
Speaker 1: any worse for work, except for the employees that are
Speaker 1: making fat salaries for probably doing nothing more than propagandizing
Speaker 1: our young people. Well, and I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: want to ask how old you are, Brian. I'll be
Speaker 1: Busie sixty in September.
Speaker 2: Okay, sixty, So you're six years older than me. You
Speaker 2: made it to the tenth grade before there was a
Speaker 2: Department of education?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I made it to the fourth grade before
Speaker 1: there was the department of education. Like, how did you
Speaker 1: how did you even learn to read? Brian? Without a
Speaker 1: department of education? I asked the same question out loud
Speaker 1: about all these you know, grand and glorious complexes that
Speaker 1: you're building, these huge uh stadiums and and and huge,
Speaker 1: massive luxury filled buildings, kind of like colleges are now
Speaker 1: on a high school level. And I think to myself,
Speaker 1: you know, I remember taking classes in a trailer parked
Speaker 1: outside Della High Junior High School, and you know we
Speaker 1: still managed to get and learn our health class and
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So you know, you don't need
Speaker 1: all the bills and whistle the same thing goes for
Speaker 1: the the pay course stadium. Do you need a disco
Speaker 1: ball in your locker room to get a game played?
Speaker 1: I mean, do you need anything more than just a
Speaker 1: locker and a shower? The answer is obviously no. Anyway,
Speaker 1: moving over, I had an idea I raised with Senator
Speaker 1: Ran Paul yesterday and I kind of want to bounced
Speaker 1: it off you. Considering what DOGE is doing ferreting out
Speaker 1: the fraudwatent abuse, or at least providing us with great
Speaker 1: illustration of where our hard earned labor turned into tax
Speaker 1: dollars is going. Can we take those seven thousand irs
Speaker 1: agents and use them as auditors of the various departments
Speaker 1: to assist in this important work.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm not sure that all of them got hired
Speaker 2: yet or they're all on probation. Probably redirect all of
Speaker 2: that effort into something useful. And you use the words waste,
Speaker 2: fraud and abuse. That used to be a bipartisan term.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: You could get up and give a speech and say
Speaker 2: we've got to find the waste, fraud and abuse. And
Speaker 2: you could give that speech at the county level, the
Speaker 2: state level, or the federal level, and nobody could tell
Speaker 2: if you were a Republican or a Democrat. But now
Speaker 2: Democrats are on the side of waste fraud abuse. They're
Speaker 2: literally advocating for waste fraud abuse because they are so
Speaker 2: upset about Doge and Elon Musk, one of the smartest
Speaker 2: men in the world, find government waste, fraud and abuse.
Speaker 1: Well, I got a big kick of not his initial statement,
Speaker 1: but Democratic Representative Quisium Fume went on a rant the
Speaker 1: other day talking about a street fight, you know, the
Speaker 1: party that says we shouldn't be violent, And then he
Speaker 1: had to have his spokesman come out and explain what
Speaker 1: he meant by that, part of which included wanting to
Speaker 1: ferret out fraud, waste and abuse, which I'm like, hold on,
Speaker 1: you can't reconcile these two things, you know, he says.
Speaker 1: Congresson and Bumi supports many of the things that makement
Speaker 1: run better, including ending cost overruns of the Department Defense,
Speaker 1: tackling the underworld of fraud and improper payments associated with
Speaker 1: government spending, and establishing a scorecard within agencies which measures
Speaker 1: their ability to curb waste. Oh, that's why he's angry
Speaker 1: about what Elon Musk is doing.
Speaker 2: Well, and listen a lot of this stuff. The courts
Speaker 2: are already trying to stop Trump.
Speaker 1: From doing forty nine lawsuits so far.
Speaker 2: You know, the and people have asked me, why don't
Speaker 2: you impeach these judges? That's certainly one of the solutions.
Speaker 2: Mike Lee is talking about limiting their jurisdiction for national injunctions,
Speaker 2: and that's another solution. But those are efforts that take
Speaker 2: lots of votes in the Senate. For instance, to impeach
Speaker 2: a judge, you need sixty seven votes in the Senate.
Speaker 2: You're not going to get Democrats to impeach Democrat judges.
Speaker 2: And then the other things require massive change as to
Speaker 2: our judicial system.
Speaker 1: What we need to do.
Speaker 2: Is every time that Doge finds waste fraud abuse and
Speaker 2: every time Donald Trump moves to eliminate it, we need
Speaker 2: to introduce a bill that does the same thing. And
Speaker 2: then we have a process here in Congress. It's an
Speaker 2: expedited process called reconciliation that deals with spending, where you
Speaker 2: only need fifty one votes in the Senate to pass it.
Speaker 2: We should be putting everything that Doge finds into this
Speaker 2: big reconciliation bill you might be hearing about on the news.
Speaker 1: Every one of those things should go into reconciliation.
Speaker 2: That's the bill that can pass the Senate with fifty
Speaker 2: one votes and pass the House with two hundred and
Speaker 2: eighteen votes. Instead, all they're fixated on in this reconciliation
Speaker 2: bill are tax cuts. Now, tax cuts are great, but
Speaker 2: if you cut taxes and increase spending, or cut taxes
Speaker 2: and fail to cut spending, yeah, you're going to get
Speaker 2: some economic growth from cutting taxes, but not enough to
Speaker 2: make up for all of the lost revenue to the government.
Speaker 2: We need to cut spending when we cut taxes. One
Speaker 2: way to do that is to take all of these
Speaker 2: DOGE recommendations and put them in this big spending bill
Speaker 2: they're calling a reconciliation bill.
Speaker 1: What's the hold up, Congressman. This sounds like a brilliant idea.
Speaker 1: My colleagues just are not serious about this.
Speaker 2: I mean, the reason DOGE is getting stuff done is
Speaker 2: it's one person. As soon as you get a committee,
Speaker 2: it gets almost impossible. And then when you give FO
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty five people involved, it's almost astronomically
Speaker 2: impossible to try and get something done.
Speaker 1: Well, there in lines the challenge. I mean, you know
Speaker 1: I'm going to have Judseph Paul Tunnell on the next segment,
Speaker 1: and he and I both agree we are not big
Speaker 1: fans of the Imperial Presidency because we appreciate what the
Speaker 1: founding fathers put together by way of checks and balances.
Speaker 1: But if Congress doesn't ever do anything and continues fiddling
Speaker 1: while Rome is burning, then it invites that type of behavior.
Speaker 2: Well, I tweeted this a few days ago that Doge
Speaker 2: is on a collision course with the Uniparty, and the
Speaker 2: Uniparty still runs Congress.
Speaker 1: You know, I know people don't like me to speak.
Speaker 2: Ill of another Republican, but Mike Johnson is still a
Speaker 2: spokesperson for the Uniparty.
Speaker 1: This hasn't been resolved yet. There is a collision.
Speaker 2: Course between the Uniparty and Doge coming up. And I
Speaker 2: don't think Elon Musk suffer any fools and when he
Speaker 2: finds out, my colleagues here just are not serious about
Speaker 2: cutting spending. In fact, I think we're going to have
Speaker 2: an omnibus bill that's going to fund USAID.
Speaker 1: I'm going to make a prediction on your show.
Speaker 2: The government funding that it was due September of last year.
Speaker 1: It's for this fiscal year.
Speaker 2: It's been kicked down the road twice, the can has
Speaker 2: and it's ended up in March. And in March they
Speaker 2: are going to probably pass an omnibus bill here. I
Speaker 2: won't be voting for it. It is most likely going
Speaker 2: to include all the USA ID stuff that Elon Musk
Speaker 2: is trying to stop or has identified, and Trump is
Speaker 2: trying to stop.
Speaker 1: So I'm interested to see.
Speaker 2: What happens when those two things collide. When you have
Speaker 2: my colleagues here in Congress, when you have Mike Johnson
Speaker 2: stand up and say.
Speaker 3: Well, we got to put all this stuff this USAID
Speaker 3: in here to get these Democrat votes or else they
Speaker 3: won't vote for it, and the fiscal concern it is
Speaker 3: won't vote for it, and we got to avoid a shutdown.
Speaker 3: So we got to fund all this stuff.
Speaker 1: No, waite for it, wait for it.
Speaker 2: The best they can do is hide it so that
Speaker 2: the news doesn't report on it. They're going to try
Speaker 2: to have some kind of weapon of mass distraction going
Speaker 2: on when they pass this omnibus in March.
Speaker 1: Let's pause, we'll bring back Congress from Massy. Maybe we'll
Speaker 1: have some good news to talk about. Come back from
Speaker 1: this brief break. Hang around upright back This is fifty
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Speaker 1: talk station Brian Thomas with Congressman Thomas Massey one of
Speaker 1: the few good ones sad news about the Omnimus bill.
Speaker 1: The anticipates, but what do we expect? I think it
Speaker 1: was Senator ram Paul yesterday on the program Congress from Massy.
Speaker 1: Oh by the way, judging of PAULA Tana is listening
Speaker 1: right now. Oh great, and he's waving so I can
Speaker 1: see him looking forward to having him on the program next.
Speaker 1: And you know love that man. I know he loves
Speaker 1: you too. Got a mutual love fest here among the
Speaker 1: three of US. Senator Rampaul, I think it was him
Speaker 1: who mentioned that beyond the what eight hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: billion dollars we got going to the American military, they're
Speaker 1: going to increase military spending even though they can't pass
Speaker 1: their own damn on. It's like seven or eight times
Speaker 1: in a row. I mean, I hope does just comes
Speaker 1: unleashed on the defense spending. Not that I'm against depending
Speaker 1: on America's military. I'm a huge support of the American
Speaker 1: veterans in the American military. But eight hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: billion dollars. You know, there has got to be a
Speaker 1: just outrageous amount in there.
Speaker 2: Well, I've got family members that serve in the military.
Speaker 2: Nearly everybody does or has the best friend that serves
Speaker 2: in the military, and they can all tell you about
Speaker 2: waste fraud abuse there, especially these government contracts. I have
Speaker 2: a friend who works for the government, and it's his job,
Speaker 2: he's an engineer to review government contracts to look for
Speaker 2: waste fraud abuse.
Speaker 1: Believe it or not, this already exists within our government.
Speaker 2: Now, what happens every time he finds, like a jar lid,
Speaker 2: we're paying ten thousand dollar dollars to Lockheed Martin is
Speaker 2: They tell him, well, Lockheed Martin's the only one that
Speaker 2: can make this jar lid. He's like, no, you can
Speaker 2: make these for like fifty cents, but if you just
Speaker 2: make one, it would still be like fifty dollars or
Speaker 2: five hundred dollars, not ten thousand dollars. And they're sorry,
Speaker 2: it's you know, we got to buy it from Lockheed Martin.
Speaker 2: So there's all kinds of waste fraud abuse in the military.
Speaker 2: And I've heard a theory and I like this theory
Speaker 2: that DOGE is just sort of warming up on USAID
Speaker 2: and some of these other institutions that are full of
Speaker 2: waste fraud abuse, so that when they get to one
Speaker 2: of the most revered institutions in the United States, which
Speaker 2: is our military, they will have credibility to go after
Speaker 2: some of this stuff.
Speaker 1: I got it well by revealing the low hanging fruit,
Speaker 1: you know, like the shrimp on treadmills, or you know
Speaker 1: LGBTQ support groups in you know, some Middle Eastern country,
Speaker 1: and you're scratching your head, going what sesame Street and Iran? Anyhow,
Speaker 1: no one except the insane Democrats who are kind of
Speaker 1: trying to defend this to some degree, no one can
Speaker 1: defend it. We are uniformly against this outrageous expenditure. So
Speaker 1: you broadcast it to the world. You realize, you point
Speaker 1: out the American taxpayer where all their money is going,
Speaker 1: and you gain a lot of support. So I share
Speaker 1: with you your enthusiasm that that's what's going on now.
Speaker 1: It's a good marketing tool and a step in the
Speaker 1: right direction. There's a line.
Speaker 2: There's a line item I want them to look at.
Speaker 2: If somebody is listening to this radio show, it's called
Speaker 2: OKO Overseas Contingency Operations, and this is where they always
Speaker 2: stuck all the stuff that they couldn't stuff into the
Speaker 2: military line item because there was some kind of cap,
Speaker 2: so they called it OCO. And that's where a lot
Speaker 2: of the Afghanistan waste was and still is.
Speaker 1: The Special Inspector.
Speaker 2: General for Afghan Reconstruction John sopco that man has found
Speaker 2: so much waste for aud abuse. So it's kind of
Speaker 2: like every time they find something, I'm like, yeah, we
Speaker 2: were talking about that for five years ago, ten years
Speaker 2: ago on the Brian Thomas show.
Speaker 1: Glad you finally found it. Amen, how about the well,
Speaker 1: pick your topic, repealing double tax on Social Security? Of that, okay,
Speaker 1: grab that one. Then yeah, I want to talk about
Speaker 1: this bill.
Speaker 2: So when you pay into Social Security, it's not like
Speaker 2: a four to one K. They actually take taxes out
Speaker 2: of the money before it goes into Social Security, unlike
Speaker 2: a four oh one K. And then when you get paid,
Speaker 2: let's say, retire, and you get money back from Social
Speaker 2: Security if you if you make over, like if you're
Speaker 2: income total income I think is twenty five thousand individually
Speaker 2: or thirty three thousand jointly. If it's over that certain amount,
Speaker 2: you start paying taxes on it at an insane marginal
Speaker 2: rate on your Social Security payments, So you're paying tax
Speaker 2: on it twice.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: When they instituted this in nineteen eighty four, they said
Speaker 2: we're going to tax the rich, and they set those numbers.
Speaker 2: And in nineteen eighty four, if you had thirty three
Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year in retirement, you might have been
Speaker 2: considered rich.
Speaker 1: But that ain't the case these days.
Speaker 2: So probably at least half of people who receive Social
Speaker 2: Security are paying tax on it. And it discourages anybody
Speaker 2: from getting another job or investing their own money and
Speaker 2: making returns on it. And so what Trump has proposed
Speaker 2: this but I've been introducing this bill for twelve years,
Speaker 2: so I'm glad to see Trump came out in favor
Speaker 2: of it. And frankly, I can't take credit for it.
Speaker 2: I did R and D to come up with this bill.
Speaker 2: I ripped off and duplicated. That's what R and D
Speaker 2: stands for here in Congress. I r indeed a Ron
Speaker 2: Paul bill which gets rid of that second tax.
Speaker 1: You don't even have to report your Social Security income.
Speaker 2: If this bill passes now here's I think this is
Speaker 2: a sign from God when I go down and introduce
Speaker 2: the bill in the hopper in Congress, just to sign
Speaker 2: the HR numbers serially, And just one day I got
Speaker 2: it in my head, I'm going to go introduce this
Speaker 2: bill today. And I said, what's the next HR number?
Speaker 2: And they said ten forty. My tax bill is HR
Speaker 2: ten forty.
Speaker 1: That's great, So we need.
Speaker 2: HR ten forty, not ten forty easy, We need HR
Speaker 2: ten forty.
Speaker 1: HR ten forty sounds like the wise, prudent and extremely
Speaker 1: logical thing to do. But something tells me, given the
Speaker 1: prior comments you met about your cohorts up there, they're
Speaker 1: not going to be in favor of it. Congressman Thomas Massey,
Speaker 1: God bless you, sir. Keep up the fantastic work, and
Speaker 1: if you're able to fifty five KRSE dot com stream
Speaker 1: the conversation I'm gonna have next with Judge Enninopolitana, who
Speaker 1: is of course a huge fan of yours. Well, everybody
Speaker 1: who's a senior.
Speaker 2: Whenever you're doing taxes in April and you're ten forty,
Speaker 2: remember call your congressman and ask them to support HR
Speaker 2: ten forty.
Speaker 1: Amen, tell the judge I said, Hi, you just did yourself.
Speaker 1: Thank you, brother. We'll talk again real soon. Stay well.
Speaker 1: A twenty six coming up at eight twenty seven, Coming
Speaker 1: up a judge add Anapolitano waiting in the wings. He is,
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