1 00:00:04,839 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,599 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,439 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,519 --> 00:00:16,679 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,719 --> 00:00:19,199 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,559 go to dpeteclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,120 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,640 smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,719 --> 00:00:30,280 your support. All right, let me welcome to the program. 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,880 Benjamin Winegarden. He is the author of a book called 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,880 American Ingrate elon Omar in the Progressive Islamic or Islamist 12 00:00:39,079 --> 00:00:43,240 Takeover of the Democrat Party. He is also a writer. 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,280 His work appears at The Federalist, the New York Post, 14 00:00:47,399 --> 00:00:51,399 and this at realclearinvestigations dot com as well. Benjamin, welcome 15 00:00:51,399 --> 00:00:52,520 to the program, sir, how are you? 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me? 17 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:55,119 Speaker 3: Doing well? 18 00:00:55,159 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: Good good. So you've got a piece at Realclearinvestigations dot 19 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:04,719 com titled a Weaponized FBI. It's real, say whistleblowers, boasting 20 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,079 scars to prove it. It's a pretty lengthy piece. You 21 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,560 detail a lot of the stories here, so First off, 22 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,239 let's start with the quote unquote purge that the evil 23 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,840 Orange Man has been doing at the FBI. What is 24 00:01:19,879 --> 00:01:21,799 this purge? 25 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,879 Speaker 3: Well, we know that at DOJ you've seen a lot 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:33,200 of these prosecutors who worked on the Get Trump lawfare 27 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:38,760 prosecutions pretty much immediately removed at the outset of the 28 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:42,920 Trump administration. And then as well, of course, FBI weaponization 29 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,040 has been something that the administration has said it wants 30 00:01:46,079 --> 00:01:49,519 to reverse, it wants to hold people accountable for. And 31 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,040 that really started with a memo that came out of 32 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,400 the DOJ eleven days into the Trump presidency calling for 33 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:01,239 the ouster of eight senior officials, some of them running 34 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,439 several of the branches within the FBI and then the 35 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,000 heads of a couple field offices as well, including Miami 36 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:12,680 and Washington d C. Eight top officials, many of them 37 00:02:12,719 --> 00:02:17,000 promoted by Christopher reet to those positions, were forced outs. 38 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,439 And this was as part of a memo which also 39 00:02:20,719 --> 00:02:25,199 called for the FBI to provide the DJ information regarding 40 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,280 all of the agents and all of the FBI officials 41 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,439 who had anything to do with January sixth prosecutions. And 42 00:02:32,479 --> 00:02:35,479 this is all in line and again with the President's 43 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,120 executive order calling for ending the weaponization of the federal government, 44 00:02:39,159 --> 00:02:43,840 which starts with, of course, probing for weaponization of those 45 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,919 currently in office and then looking at ultimately remedy when 46 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,319 they engaged in weaponized acts. So there was an uproar 47 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,840 among senior Democrats, for example, on the Senate Judiciary Committee, 48 00:02:57,159 --> 00:03:01,199 from the vice chairman of the Intelligents Committee, send an 49 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,719 Intelligence Committee, Mark Warner, and others basically saying Donald Trump 50 00:03:05,879 --> 00:03:09,639 is purging the senior ranks of the FBI, Our national 51 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,919 security is going to be threatened, this is retribution, this 52 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,240 ISN'TUS justice, etc. And what we did dug into was 53 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,159 the fact that at least three of the eight ousted 54 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:26,680 senior FBI officials themselves had been involved in allegedly weaponized acts. 55 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,879 And we walked through the story of what they did. 56 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,800 And that story tells the trials and tribulations of FBI 57 00:03:34,879 --> 00:03:39,520 officials who were whistleblowers who came forward, some internally and 58 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,800 then others to Congress when those doors were closed with 59 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,759 reports of misconduct within the FBI, including pertaining to the 60 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:52,560 January sixth prosecutions and other issues as well, and they 61 00:03:52,639 --> 00:03:57,599 faced severe reprisals for serving as whistle blowers, and then 62 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,479 those who championed them, those who defended them internally and 63 00:04:01,479 --> 00:04:05,280 said these people are being railroaded, they themselves were retaliated 64 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,599 against as well. And we tell what that retaliation looks 65 00:04:08,639 --> 00:04:10,080 like in this story at real Quaer. 66 00:04:10,639 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: So the three people that seemed to be among the 67 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,680 worst of the worst, and they were in that quote Purge, 68 00:04:17,879 --> 00:04:24,439 Jeffrey Veltrie, Dina Perkins, and Timothy Dunham. And there's a 69 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:29,680 story that you tell about a Charlotte connection here in 70 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:34,319 North Carolina. One case that the Inspector General highlighted involved 71 00:04:34,399 --> 00:04:37,720 Marcus Allen. You also included this clip from a House 72 00:04:37,759 --> 00:04:40,160 Committee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government from back 73 00:04:40,199 --> 00:04:43,959 in September with Congressman then Congressman Dan Bishop, who is 74 00:04:43,959 --> 00:04:49,240 from our area. And he's talking with Marcus Allen, not 75 00:04:49,319 --> 00:04:53,399 the football player guy, but he's a decorated Marine corpsvette 76 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,560 and a former FBI guy and he suffered some of 77 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,759 these reaper cuquestions that you're talking about. Can you kind 78 00:05:01,759 --> 00:05:04,759 of go over because I think it's instructive and it's 79 00:05:04,879 --> 00:05:08,360 indicative of like the common tactic that I saw play 80 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,959 out in the stories you were telling about how they 81 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,639 basically just like slow walk these guys and starve them 82 00:05:14,759 --> 00:05:16,800 of finances. 83 00:05:17,199 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 3: Yep, so it's your point. Marcus Allen, decorated veteran, was 84 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,759 posted to the Charlotte Field Office, did work with the 85 00:05:25,879 --> 00:05:31,040 Joint Terrorism Task Force folks there, and like a lot 86 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,000 of these people who we profile have stellar records, you know, 87 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,399 they've been awarded for the jobs that they've done at 88 00:05:37,399 --> 00:05:42,439 the FBI. And Marcus Allen was in part responsible for 89 00:05:42,519 --> 00:05:46,759 helping gather intelligence and work with a Joint Terrorism Task 90 00:05:46,759 --> 00:05:51,959 Force in connection with January sixth investigations and was helpful 91 00:05:52,199 --> 00:05:56,279 in having certain people prosecuted in connection with those investigations. 92 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,279 He came to his superiors after seeing story in the 93 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,519 New York Times and at Real Clear and elsewhere about 94 00:06:04,519 --> 00:06:07,279 the fact that there were FBI assets on the ground 95 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,000 on January sixth, and said to them, look, you know, 96 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,360 there's sort of a counter narrative that's forming about what 97 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:17,000 transpired on January sixth, and I'm not sure that Washington, 98 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,240 d C. That is kind of headquarters, is being fully open, transparent, 99 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,079 forthcoming about what happened that day and whether or not 100 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,279 there any ties to the FBI. And then He cited 101 00:06:29,319 --> 00:06:32,560 to his supervisors the fact that chrispher Ray was not 102 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,439 forthcoming in testimony before Congress on this very issue, what 103 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,040 didn't show full candor, and so this was sort of 104 00:06:40,079 --> 00:06:42,959 an fyi and he viewed it as it's part of 105 00:06:42,959 --> 00:06:45,360 my job to let people know who are dealing with 106 00:06:45,399 --> 00:06:50,439 these cases, what is coming out in reporting and disclosures, 107 00:06:50,879 --> 00:06:54,920 and is there potentially malfeasance occurring inside the bureau in 108 00:06:54,959 --> 00:06:58,959 connection with it. This kicked off twenty seven months of 109 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:04,519 hell for Marcus Allen, where his emails to his supervisors 110 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,920 were forwarded along to the Security Division at the FBI. 111 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,759 And the Security Division holds a ton of power because 112 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:18,079 if someone's security clearance, if there's some grounds for calling 113 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,360 for investigating someone with respect to their ability to hold 114 00:07:22,439 --> 00:07:25,879 and maintain a security clearance, security clearance can get suspended. 115 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,839 During this time a person's investigated, they're twisting in the 116 00:07:29,879 --> 00:07:33,000 wind because their employment is suspended as well, and they're 117 00:07:33,079 --> 00:07:35,319 left without pay because you need to have the security 118 00:07:35,319 --> 00:07:38,920 clearance obviously to do your job as an FBI agent. 119 00:07:39,639 --> 00:07:46,399 And only after potentially this investigation finishes, then you get finality. 120 00:07:46,759 --> 00:07:48,720 Are they going to revoke your security clearance? Are you 121 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,240 going to be reinstated or not. If it's revoked, then 122 00:07:51,279 --> 00:07:52,920 you have to appeal it, and you might have to 123 00:07:52,959 --> 00:07:56,959 wait months to get the information the Security Division was 124 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:01,279 using to justify a revocation to then be able to 125 00:08:01,319 --> 00:08:05,279 even defend yourself and plead your case and try and 126 00:08:05,319 --> 00:08:08,040 get a reconsideration, and you might fail there too. 127 00:08:08,439 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: And basically what we. 128 00:08:09,639 --> 00:08:13,839 Speaker 3: Find is that Marcus Allen is targeted as a January 129 00:08:13,879 --> 00:08:17,959 sixth conspiracy theorist, essentially as a consequence of these emails 130 00:08:18,399 --> 00:08:19,920 as well, he's one of a couple people in the 131 00:08:19,959 --> 00:08:22,759 Charlotte office who won't attest to the fact of the 132 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,879 time that he had gotten COVID nineteen vaccine as was 133 00:08:26,959 --> 00:08:31,000 mandated by the Biden administration. And the pattern that you 134 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,320 see throughout these cases is that especially people who are 135 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,200 skeptical of COVID nineteen vaccine are resistant to it, especially 136 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,879 people who are conservative, especially people ex military. In a 137 00:08:41,879 --> 00:08:45,240 lot of cases, they end up finding themselves where there 138 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,039 are these predicates so called for cases brought against them 139 00:08:49,399 --> 00:08:53,879 to investigate their security clearances. Security clearances get pulled and 140 00:08:53,919 --> 00:08:59,000 they go through this horrific process where their finances are drained. Obviously, 141 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,519 they're left distresses, and it's a Kofka esque sort of 142 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,960 process of trying to fight to get reinstated. And some 143 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,120 of these people are still twisting in the wind even now. 144 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: Yeah you can't yeah, and you can't get work, like 145 00:09:13,279 --> 00:09:15,000 they can't pick up a side job. 146 00:09:15,159 --> 00:09:20,159 Speaker 3: Right, You're not allowed to seek outside employment, not allowed 147 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,840 to seek gifts to support yourself. So your life is 148 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,879 ruined and the process serves as the punishment, and a 149 00:09:25,879 --> 00:09:28,720 lot of people say essentially to hell with it, I'm 150 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,639 going to leave my job. In many cases they're dream jobs. 151 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,639 Speaker 1: And that's kind of the point I suspect, get them 152 00:09:34,639 --> 00:09:34,960 to quit. 153 00:09:35,159 --> 00:09:38,039 Speaker 3: That appears to be the point of it is force 154 00:09:38,159 --> 00:09:41,240 people out who don't toe the line of the superiors. 155 00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:44,360 And so there was a rationale for forcing out at 156 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,279 least three of the eight people who are either high 157 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,600 level at sec D, the Security Division, or they're overseer 158 00:09:51,759 --> 00:09:55,799 in the human resources branch of the FBI. And we 159 00:09:55,879 --> 00:09:58,120 thought it was worth telling that story because this has 160 00:09:58,159 --> 00:10:00,799 been presented as Trump is just per the upper ranks 161 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,480 of the FBI and it's totally political. No, there's actually 162 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,279 a rationale to it, based upon this raft of allegations 163 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,679 from a slew of whistleblowers like Marcus Allen who have 164 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:12,399 been targeted. 165 00:10:12,399 --> 00:10:15,519 Speaker 1: Accordingly, I highly recommend that people that are interested in 166 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,399 this topic to read the piece. It's at realclearinvestigations dot com. 167 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,480 Ben Winegarten is the author. You can also see his work. 168 00:10:22,519 --> 00:10:25,639 He's a senior contributor at The Federalist and The New 169 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,200 York Post. He's got his book and also a substack 170 00:10:28,519 --> 00:10:31,200 Winegarden dot substack dot com. Benjamin, thanks so much for 171 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,120 your time, sir. I appreciate it. 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Your subscription then not 192 00:11:34,879 --> 00:11:37,879 only helps my podcast, but it also supports Ground News 193 00:11:37,919 --> 00:11:42,080 as they make the media landscape more transparent. Thanks again 194 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,960 to Ben Winingarten for making time for us today. I 195 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,799 do appreciate it. There is a Charlotte connection I mentioned 196 00:11:49,799 --> 00:11:54,799 in the interview with mister Winegarten there about this House 197 00:11:55,799 --> 00:11:58,679 Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government. This was 198 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,240 from September of twenty twenty four, so a few months ago, 199 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,840 and you're going to hear Congressman Dan Bishop talking with 200 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:11,879 the witness Marcus Allen, who was stationed here in the 201 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:17,519 Charlotte FBI office, about the retribution that was exacted upon 202 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:23,519 him as a whistleblower and what it did to him. 203 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 4: As far as I'm concerned, you're the person I'm most 204 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,320 interested in hearing from I'm from Charlotte. I've been to 205 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,200 the Charlotte Field office. I know some people there. I 206 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,399 was extraordinarily impressed by you and the other whistleblowers when 207 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,759 you previously appeared before the subcommittee. I'm impressed by you again. 208 00:12:38,799 --> 00:12:40,399 I haven't been able to be here the whole time. 209 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,360 I'm going to yield you some time just if you cared, 210 00:12:43,399 --> 00:12:45,600 if you have things that you wish to say in 211 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,879 just a moment. But the first thing I'm going to 212 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,399 say before I do that, and then I'm going to 213 00:12:49,399 --> 00:12:51,720 give you, mister Jordan, the rest of my time is 214 00:12:54,639 --> 00:13:00,240 I'm just overwhelmingly troubled by the fact that no one 215 00:13:00,279 --> 00:13:02,279 seems to be able to do much about what has 216 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,519 happened to you. You got the Inspector General, very respectable person. 217 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,120 You've done a lot of things have been historic. But 218 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,360 you know, you issue a management alert, and to me, 219 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,559 it sounds ridiculous to say. You don't think these guys 220 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,919 at the FBI, the senior managers, understand that they shouldn't 221 00:13:20,919 --> 00:13:25,159 retaliate against somebody by putting under extreme personal hardship while 222 00:13:25,159 --> 00:13:31,799 they engage in a completely baseless persecution over their security 223 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,600 clearance and they leave them in limbo for twenty seven months, 224 00:13:35,759 --> 00:13:38,559 and to this moment haven't paid what I understand to 225 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,399 be the consideration the under the settlement that's been reached. 226 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,120 That is astonishing. And if it's not, that's not astonishing 227 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,080 enough that all you can do is issue an alert. 228 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:52,080 Congress does absolutely nothing in the majority party, not one 229 00:13:52,159 --> 00:13:55,200 thing to impose on the on the Department of Justice 230 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,039 of the FBI and an appropriate sanction for what they've done. 231 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,639 And we have a hearing about it, and everybody in 232 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,320 the minority party there's some time they're fearing what Donald 233 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,399 Trump would do in the next administration while they sit 234 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,720 here and they look at the guy who's been persecuted 235 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,960 by the FBI, and everybody in the room understands it. 236 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,440 Mister Allen, do you have comments you wish to make. 237 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:14,879 I'd give you about a minute minute and a half 238 00:14:14,919 --> 00:14:16,360 and then I want to turn the rest of my time, 239 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:17,039 mister Jordan. 240 00:14:17,799 --> 00:14:20,399 Speaker 5: Yes, sir, I would just say that I consider the 241 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,840 hearing today my last active service as a public servant 242 00:14:23,879 --> 00:14:27,320 for the United States of America, and I'll give you 243 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,960 my professional opinion. I was an intel professional for our 244 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,720 country for many years, and I would give recommendations, and 245 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,919 I'd also look at indications and warnings. So I would 246 00:14:38,919 --> 00:14:43,240 offer this to the American people as my warning to them. Says, 247 00:14:43,279 --> 00:14:46,320 this is a warning the American people, I say, I 248 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,440 personally have no confidence that the FBI will reign in 249 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:54,639 its own conduct. I've been persecuted along with Garrett, Steve 250 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,039 and Kyle and countless other whistleblow horse. It is my 251 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,200 opinion that the Bureau used reprisal and fear to control 252 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:08,000 the workforce, and it's been a seemingly effective tactic. I 253 00:15:08,039 --> 00:15:10,679 personally believe that there are no current effective checks and 254 00:15:10,759 --> 00:15:14,519 balances against them conducting lawless action with any type of 255 00:15:14,559 --> 00:15:18,840 correction in a legitimate time frame. I welcome the work 256 00:15:18,879 --> 00:15:22,159 of the IG, but I think any type of lawless action, 257 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,000 there's no legitimate time frame to rain them back in. 258 00:15:25,879 --> 00:15:30,840 Their ability to overclassify information can allow them to stonewall forever. So, 259 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,320 the American people, you have a duty as a citizen 260 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,279 to vote, and I strongly. 261 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:35,759 Speaker 2: Urge you to do so. 262 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,559 Speaker 5: It's how you participate in the American experience. I know 263 00:15:39,679 --> 00:15:43,000 people have doubts about election integrity, but you must vote. 264 00:15:43,039 --> 00:15:47,600 It is your claim, state your claim and don't forfeit it. 265 00:15:47,639 --> 00:15:52,559 Willingly have your voice heard. My other recommendations are in 266 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,919 the natural order first vote. The second is the second Amendment. 267 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,639 Arm yourself and know how to defend yourself. Make three 268 00:16:00,679 --> 00:16:03,120 to four friends in your neighborhood and promise to come 269 00:16:03,159 --> 00:16:06,159 to each other's mutual aid and times of harm hardship, 270 00:16:06,559 --> 00:16:09,840 and join the great depression. People stocked up a pantry, 271 00:16:10,159 --> 00:16:12,440 so I think that's a good practice, especially in our 272 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,840 economic times. And make sure you have three to four 273 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,480 months of food. As a person of faith, I'd say 274 00:16:17,519 --> 00:16:21,000 pray the Rosary, go to the first Friday devotions. That's 275 00:16:21,039 --> 00:16:23,720 for everybody, all my brothers and sisters of all faiths. 276 00:16:23,759 --> 00:16:26,519 And I know I'm Catholic, and read the Gospel of 277 00:16:26,559 --> 00:16:28,720 our Lord and Savior of Jesus Christ and live it 278 00:16:28,759 --> 00:16:29,240 every day. 279 00:16:30,159 --> 00:16:31,639 Speaker 2: And that's all I have to say. Thank you for 280 00:16:31,679 --> 00:16:32,279 the time. 281 00:16:32,279 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 4: You know, mister Allen, the fact that there are servants 282 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,759 like you who have borne up under persecution that a 283 00:16:37,799 --> 00:16:40,360 lot of political leaders in this country do not care 284 00:16:40,399 --> 00:16:43,480 about is the thing that heartens the American people. And 285 00:16:43,559 --> 00:16:47,600 I'm confident the American people will resolve the situation no 286 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,440 matter how weak Washington is in response. 287 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: So if you are confused by what you are seeing 288 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,600 at the FBI, hopefully this shed some light on it. 289 00:17:00,679 --> 00:17:06,000 The American people are, through Donald Trump and now Cash 290 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:13,279 Battel are attempting to fix a broken agency. Me personally, 291 00:17:14,279 --> 00:17:17,839 I'd say take it all apart. That's my personal view 292 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,000 on I mean, I don't think you get to come 293 00:17:20,039 --> 00:17:23,640 back after the corruption that we have seen at the 294 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:28,000 highest levels for a decade, but it goes back beyond that. 295 00:17:29,599 --> 00:17:32,880 I don't see how you reform it. But maybe Cash 296 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,359 Betel will be able to make some headway there. And 297 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,880 Marcus Allen, he is just one of the whistleblowers. You've 298 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,319 heard several other He mentioned a couple other names there. 299 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,960 There are many of them inside the rank and file 300 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,279 that have been targeted by the leadership of the FBI. 301 00:17:52,599 --> 00:17:56,759 And that's who was quote purged, those leaders that weaponize 302 00:17:56,799 --> 00:18:01,039 their agency against its own employees. Here's a great idea. 303 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,920 How about making an escape to a really special and 304 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,160 secluded getaway in western North Carolina? Just a quick drive 305 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,000 up the mountain and cabins of Ashville. 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And maybe the DC Field of the DC 329 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,000 Headquarters is lying to us here in the field office, 330 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,319 as they have us track down all these J sixers. 331 00:19:39,839 --> 00:19:42,720 And for simply asking that question, now you get targeted. 332 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,680 They yank your security clearance, They slow roll the investigation 333 00:19:46,759 --> 00:19:48,920 for over two years, so you can't work, you have 334 00:19:49,039 --> 00:19:53,640 no income, you can't do a go fundme, nothing. This 335 00:19:53,680 --> 00:20:01,559 whistleblower stuff was raised at the nomination hearing for Cash Patel, 336 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,440 and yesterday they took the vote. The Senate took the vote. 337 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,920 Charles Grassley, the chairman of this committee, Senate Intelligence Committee, 338 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,519 he referenced these very things in his opening statement. 339 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 6: Because the FBI has been infected by political biased and 340 00:20:22,279 --> 00:20:29,039 weaponized against the American people. Mister Patel knows it. Mister 341 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:34,400 Patel exposed it, and mister Patel has targeted for it. 342 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,119 And I've got plenty of examples to show what's wrong 343 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:46,440 with the FBI. Mister Patel was instrumental in exposing Crossfire Hurricane. 344 00:20:47,519 --> 00:20:53,240 He showed during that investigation that the Democratic National Committee 345 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:59,359 funded false allegations against President Trump, that the Department of 346 00:20:59,559 --> 00:21:05,799 Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation hid information from 347 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:11,920 the FISA court to wiretap a presidential campaign, and then 348 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:18,519 an FBI lawyer lied in the process. As reward for 349 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:24,119 his efforts to uncover this truth, he was attacked by 350 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:32,559 the media and the Department of Justice secretly subpoened his records. Now, 351 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,319 I and my staff know a thing or two about 352 00:21:35,319 --> 00:21:40,400 this kind of retaliation because my staff receives similar treatment 353 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:48,039 during our investigation. Sadly, as I've said at mister Patel's hearing, 354 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,799 Crossfire Hurricane is but one example. 355 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, people forget, by the way, I did not edit that. 356 00:21:55,559 --> 00:21:59,839 That's their automatic microphones going on and off. So when 357 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,440 he when Grassley pauses too long, the mic shuts off 358 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,559 and then it comes back on. So that was not 359 00:22:04,599 --> 00:22:07,880 me doing any editing. That was his comments. But people 360 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:14,920 forget the FBI targeted the staff of Chuck Grassley when 361 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,640 he started looking into whistle because Chuck Grassley has a 362 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:23,359 long career, long history and track record of defending whistleblowers, 363 00:22:24,599 --> 00:22:28,440 and the FBI targeted him and his staff for that. 364 00:22:30,039 --> 00:22:32,880 The issue has been going on for a while. 365 00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 6: Whistleblowers are treated like a skunk at a picnic. And 366 00:22:38,039 --> 00:22:42,519 I hope my Democrat colleagues will learn a lesson about 367 00:22:42,519 --> 00:22:48,480 how the FBI has previously treated whistleblowers, both under Republican 368 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:53,480 administrations and Democrat administrations, so that we don't have this 369 00:22:53,640 --> 00:23:01,000 happening again. One whistleblower said, quote, people like the have 370 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,720 harmed the noble nation of the or of the bureau. 371 00:23:05,519 --> 00:23:10,680 They've created turmoil, and their personal agenda has spread throughout 372 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:16,240 the bureau over the last decade in service of the country. 373 00:23:16,839 --> 00:23:21,359 We should insist on removing them from the FBI, not tomorrow, 374 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,480 but right now. 375 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: End of quote. 376 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 6: Remember he said the last decade that covers presidents of 377 00:23:28,319 --> 00:23:29,200 both parties. 378 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: Indeed, the rot runs through the entire organization and it 379 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:41,680 has for decades. I'm not sure if it ever stopped. 380 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,880 You know, people talk about ja Ed or Hoover and 381 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,880 all of the corruption there and targeting political enemies and everything. 382 00:23:49,039 --> 00:23:51,039 And see, we can talk about all of that because 383 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:56,759 Hoover targeted some Democrats, right, oh, they But I guess 384 00:23:56,799 --> 00:24:02,079 if you're targeting Republicans then it's different, it's okay. And 385 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,079 that's the thing. Like these whistleblowers, I don't know their 386 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,599 political affiliations. Marcus Allen. You just heard Ben Winingarten say, 387 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:16,119 Marcus Allen was involved in investigating the JA sixers, but 388 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,960 when presented with information, he then did what he is 389 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,759 trained to do by the FBI, which is to ask 390 00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:27,680 some follow up questions, and simply asking those questions ended 391 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:32,160 his career at the FBI. In Winegarten's piece at Real 392 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,880 Clear Investigations, he says, the terminations that we have seen 393 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,160 so far like this quote unquote purge of the people 394 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,440 that did the targeting of the whistleblowers. These terminations may 395 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,119 be only the beginning of efforts to remedy alleged malfeasons 396 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:51,480 pertaining to whistleblowers. Attorney General Pam Bondi, in establishing the 397 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:57,119 Justice Department's Weaponization Working Group shortly after her confirmation, indicated 398 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,240 that one of its focuses will be examining the retaliatory 399 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:08,640 targeting and in some instances, criminal prosecution of legitimate whistleblowers. 400 00:25:09,799 --> 00:25:14,480 And just think about the mindset that one would have 401 00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:20,920 being a top official at the FBI. Hearing somebody come 402 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:27,559 forward with a whistleblower complaint and then retaliating against that person. 403 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:32,160 One of these cases, there is an allegation that these 404 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:37,359 same people, the same purged FBI officials, that they timed 405 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:46,400 their retaliation to freeze pay and access to security clearance 406 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,079 and stuff of another FBI employee, that they timed it 407 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,160 just as he and his pregnant wife had sold their 408 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,319 home and were fixing to move to I think the 409 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,440 Virginia area, and they froze him out right after he 410 00:26:01,519 --> 00:26:04,400 sold the home, so now he couldn't buy the new home. 411 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,279 They left the guy homeless, he and his wife and 412 00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:10,319 I think two kids and a third on the way. 413 00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:15,240 Think about what kind of a mind does that to 414 00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:21,160 a colleague at a law enforcement agency. 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Trust the experts at Create 433 00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:22,119 a Video, conveniently located in mint Hill right off I 434 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,079 four eighty five and online at create avideo dot com. 435 00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:33,359 Cashptel was a staffer for Devin Nunez, and he was 436 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:40,039 the guy who uncovered the crossfire hurricane plot, the conspiracy 437 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,200 and gave it to his boss, Devin Nunez, you recalled Nunez, 438 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,480 then went over to the White House told Trump all 439 00:27:46,519 --> 00:27:51,920 about it, and for that he was punished. Cash Betel 440 00:27:52,039 --> 00:27:55,880 was punished, So he knows firsthand about the weaponization. As 441 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:02,240 Chuck Grassley said, something happened though. At the confirmation, they 442 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:14,359 were waiting on Adam Shift for Brains to appear so 443 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,640 he could cast his vote, to make his speech or whatever. 444 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,920 So they had a bunch of time to kill before 445 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,039 he got there, and so they were just like sitting around, 446 00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:25,559 waiting around, and then Tom Tillis opened up the mic. 447 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,599 Chuck Rastley had left. Tillis took over chairing the meeting, 448 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,799 and he made some comments and I pulled a portion 449 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,400 of him here because I think they're pretty important to hear. 450 00:28:35,759 --> 00:28:39,279 Speaker 7: I think mister Patel is going to come and fix 451 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,200 an agency that I have great admiration for that I 452 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,119 still believe is the gold standard for law enforcement agencies 453 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,599 in the world, in the history of the world. But 454 00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:52,480 to suggest that others should not be put under a microscope, 455 00:28:52,519 --> 00:28:56,000 I think his naive. I supported Chris right, and yet 456 00:28:56,039 --> 00:28:58,839 he disappointed me, and that he is at the top 457 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,920 of the age and there were inappropriate. 458 00:29:01,319 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: Investigations going along. 459 00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 7: I supported maryck Garland when he was put forth by 460 00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:10,440 Senator Biden, and yet he's disappointed me with some investigations 461 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,079 and activities in the DOJ that were absolutely inappropriate under 462 00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:14,599 his watch. 463 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: Did he know about it. 464 00:29:16,279 --> 00:29:18,599 Speaker 7: I don't know, but what I do know is he 465 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,720 was the head of the organization, and at some point 466 00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:23,440 you have to hold people in these organizations accountable. 467 00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: I trusted mister call Me until he gave me a 468 00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:27,720 reason not to. 469 00:29:28,319 --> 00:29:30,519 Speaker 7: So for people to think that we should keep the 470 00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:33,920 FBI as it is and not question some of the 471 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,480 politically motivated activities, whether a Democrat or a Republican is 472 00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:40,720 in power or either being naive or just waiting for 473 00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:43,559 the opportunity when that slant is in. 474 00:29:43,519 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: The favor of their own their worldview. 475 00:29:46,279 --> 00:29:50,799 Speaker 7: I for one, want the FBI to do the job 476 00:29:50,839 --> 00:29:53,319 it does very well and nothing more. Never to be 477 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,799 motivated by political retribution. I said to yesterday to a nominee. 478 00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:02,480 This needs to end the political physics. And for every action, 479 00:30:02,599 --> 00:30:06,079 there's an opposite and an equal reaction. Is what is 480 00:30:06,119 --> 00:30:10,799 tarnishing the reputation of the finest law enforcement agency. Recognize 481 00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:13,799 that way worldwide, and we can do better. There were 482 00:30:13,839 --> 00:30:18,119 other people that were saying that mister Patel condone the. 483 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,319 Speaker 2: January sixth attacks. 484 00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:21,559 Speaker 7: I asked him when he was sitting right there, does 485 00:30:21,599 --> 00:30:24,680 he agree with me that people that attack Capitol. 486 00:30:24,319 --> 00:30:25,799 Speaker 2: Police officers are thugs? 487 00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 7: And he said that if he were asked by the 488 00:30:28,759 --> 00:30:32,440 President to have given pardons to those thugs that attack 489 00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:33,839 Capitol police officers, that. 490 00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:35,279 Speaker 2: His recommendation would have been no. 491 00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 7: And yet people want to pretend that he was okay 492 00:30:38,519 --> 00:30:41,000 with that coming in as the head of the FBI. 493 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 2: So, folks, let's just be honest here. 494 00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:46,799 Speaker 7: There was someone else who said there was a Republican 495 00:30:46,839 --> 00:30:49,920 that said this is the shirts and skins exercise. I'm 496 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,079 the one that said it, because when you see Pam Bondy, 497 00:30:53,119 --> 00:30:55,839 who has personal relationships with people on the other side 498 00:30:55,839 --> 00:30:58,559 of the aisle, not get a single Democrat vote from 499 00:30:58,559 --> 00:31:01,759 this committee, then clearly we're in a shirts and skins posture. 500 00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:05,319 Not always, probably not even for the remainder of this Congress, 501 00:31:05,359 --> 00:31:08,519 but right now I stand by that characterization, and we 502 00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:10,079 saw it play out again here today. 503 00:31:10,359 --> 00:31:15,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, Hoover Institution. Senior fellow Victor David Hanson, he went 504 00:31:15,839 --> 00:31:17,720 on Fox News a couple of days ago. He said 505 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,000 that the FBI says there's a new administration now and 506 00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:25,039 there might be some exposure or culpability. So they're afraid 507 00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:27,559 that if they were Donald Trump and they had suffered 508 00:31:27,599 --> 00:31:30,559 what they did to him, they would be very frightened. 509 00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:37,480 That's the way that they think, right. They expect there 510 00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:40,960 to be retribution because that's what they would do. So 511 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,240 they think Donald Trump is going to re examine a 512 00:31:44,279 --> 00:31:49,119 lot of this, and for me personally, I hope they do. 513 00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:51,640 I mean, now that they found all those extra jfk 514 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,880 assassination files and stuff, all right, that'll do it for 515 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,640 this episode. Thank you so much for listening. 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