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<v Speaker 1>And I just turned around and I call ass out

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<v Speaker 1>of there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was done.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't dealing with them. The hypocrisy of the cult

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<v Speaker 3>is one of the things that turned me away the quickest.

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<v Speaker 3>When I turned my head lights on, it turned and

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<v Speaker 3>looked at us.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things I remember the most where

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<v Speaker 1>the eyes were glowing red. I see an orb of light.

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<v Speaker 1>It is just circling these steps.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it is waiting for me.

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<v Speaker 3>And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO.

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<v Speaker 3>They're basically like, what are you talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where I saw.

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<v Speaker 2>The top of the muzzle, noose and the eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>As soon as I made eye contact with this thing,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like death.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back listeners, Just Brandon from Tenfoil Tells bringing you

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<v Speaker 1>on that note, thanks to Cold of Conspiracy, Thanks for listening,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will see you on the next one. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to Ted Foyle Tells. I'm your host, Brandon Tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>we are joined by my guest, Miss McGillicutty. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>coming on here and talking with me.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you like to let the audience know a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about yourself before we dive into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, uh, you know, my story is longer than the

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<v Speaker 3>subject we're going to talk about, but right now we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna we're going to talk about I've been a lucid

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<v Speaker 3>and vivid, actual dreamer ever since I can remember, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I just uh I've come to know that

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<v Speaker 3>those experiences that I've had and still have are very

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<v Speaker 3>spiritual in nature and eerily similar to that of abductees.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'll get into that in a minute, but I

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<v Speaker 3>just uh, I feel very uh. Ever since I came

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<v Speaker 3>to the Lord out of Witchcraft, I've gotten more answers

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<v Speaker 3>than ever of what really is going on. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>quite a phenomenon. I've come across a few people who

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<v Speaker 3>have had similar experiences. I love the work of Vicky

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<v Speaker 3>Joy Anderson. She's really helped with figuring out, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>giving some language and some context of what is going on.

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<v Speaker 3>And these experiences can be very terrifying, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you can feel like there's nothing that you can do,

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<v Speaker 3>but there is a lot that you can do. And

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<v Speaker 3>so I hope to be able to share that to people. So,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if I could reach someone who was me

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<v Speaker 3>five years ago, I could help them find uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>some answers to that, to some of their questions and

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<v Speaker 3>get some some offense to this, because you can seem

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<v Speaker 3>really out of out of control with it, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's there's nothing you can do. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you are ready to begin, I will turn

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<v Speaker 1>it over to you and I will just let you talk, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So as a child I had a number of experiences.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to see these things I just called the

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<v Speaker 3>little little shadow people, and upon occasion, a very tall one,

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<v Speaker 3>and for the most part I would just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I try to go to my parents about it, and

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<v Speaker 3>it'd be a lot of it's just a dream, or

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<v Speaker 3>you know, oh, there's nothing there, which I never do

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<v Speaker 3>to my kids because, let me tell you, if you've

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<v Speaker 3>gone through it, it's it can be very frustrating. And

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<v Speaker 3>but AnyWho, So I my first real intense experience was

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<v Speaker 3>my first what I think was the attempt for something

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<v Speaker 3>very spiritual. As a child, I didn't quite have any

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<v Speaker 3>context it. And in fact, there's quite a bit that

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<v Speaker 3>I've blocked out that have slowly been resurfacing. But I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to talk about some that I found to be

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit more prevalent and probably the most intense.

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<v Speaker 3>The first one that was the most intense was actually

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<v Speaker 3>when I was pregnant with my son, who is on

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<v Speaker 3>the spectrum, and that was somewhere at the tail end

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<v Speaker 3>of twenty thirteen and twenty fourteen. My now husband had

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<v Speaker 3>to wake me up and I just was. I guess

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<v Speaker 3>I was like hysterically crying, you know, the standard kind

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<v Speaker 3>of sleep paralysis spouse experience of what was happening to me.

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<v Speaker 3>But in what I had seen and what I was

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<v Speaker 3>experiencing in there, I almost didn't have any words to express.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like I had been in shock, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't even express it to him. But what I

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<v Speaker 3>had seen was I was in a room with all

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<v Speaker 3>of these huge shadow creatures. There was about eight of

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<v Speaker 3>them that I could see, you know, facing me. I

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<v Speaker 3>was on a like table, like a like a I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know table slash altar or something, just laying on it,

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<v Speaker 3>but I was without the ability to move my appendages.

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<v Speaker 3>And a very tall man came and he was quite handsome.

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<v Speaker 3>He actually looked like Mark Wahlberg, which ruined Mark Wahlberg

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<v Speaker 3>movies for me. And then all of a sudden he

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<v Speaker 3>got on top of me and he was his face changed.

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<v Speaker 3>He was making this very sinister smile that morphed his face,

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<v Speaker 3>and then he was faceless. And then all I saw

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<v Speaker 3>was like this strange like back and forth of no

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<v Speaker 3>face and then just this incredible, incredibly sinister face looking

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<v Speaker 3>at me and all of them were cheering, as you know,

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<v Speaker 3>unfortunately he but the kids would say great to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And and at some point, I uh, I was like

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<v Speaker 3>kind of shaken, awakened by my husband or now husband,

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<v Speaker 3>and those kinds of things I do remember. I hate

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<v Speaker 3>to backtrack, but there are a couple of those resurfaced.

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<v Speaker 3>That dream specifically resurfaced flashbacks of ones that apparently had

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<v Speaker 3>happened when I was little, but something very I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it was just it was unbelievable. It was so unbelievably real.

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<v Speaker 3>And most of my dreams are like that, but I

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<v Speaker 3>remember it was just horrible. It was absolutely horrible. And

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<v Speaker 3>the next one I had that was the most that

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<v Speaker 3>was a super intense one involved a pseudo like how

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<v Speaker 3>can I put this? It was kind of like your

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<v Speaker 3>typical astral flight dream or your astral walking dream. And

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<v Speaker 3>I started off walking outside my house and outside, and

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<v Speaker 3>I remember thinking like, why am I outside? It's nighttime,

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm very conscious and aware of what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>And as soon as I the moment, like the conscious

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<v Speaker 3>thought of I'm outside, Why am I outside? As soon

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<v Speaker 3>as I thought that, I was brutally attacked outside in

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<v Speaker 3>you know, in the in this astral and right outside

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<v Speaker 3>my house, no one could hear me screaming. And when

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<v Speaker 3>it was another violent attack like that last one I

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<v Speaker 3>just told you. Around two thousand and one, I started trying.

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<v Speaker 3>I was still heavily in the New Age, but I

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<v Speaker 3>was getting more curious as to I was looking into

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<v Speaker 3>what these dreams were, what kind of spiritual components were

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<v Speaker 3>in there. And I wasn't getting as much clarity as

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<v Speaker 3>I would have liked. You know, I was still very

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<v Speaker 3>much believing in things like my ancestors and spirit guides

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<v Speaker 3>and higher self, and I was, in fact much of

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<v Speaker 3>it was encouraged to be okay with this astral travel.

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<v Speaker 3>And now, mind you, anytime it's happening at that point,

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<v Speaker 3>to me, something horribly violent would happen. And I stumbled

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<v Speaker 3>upon the work of Michael s. Heiser, and he spoke

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<v Speaker 3>of we have an unseen realm, and he's very He's

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<v Speaker 3>not sense now passed away, but he went on a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of his works are apologetic, and I was familiar.

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<v Speaker 3>I grew up in a Christian home, but so I

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<v Speaker 3>was familiar with the concept of not just familiar with

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<v Speaker 3>the concept of the Bible, was familiar with the Bible,

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<v Speaker 3>but his ability to show me that this spiritual stuff

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm experience and seeing existed in the Bible, and

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<v Speaker 3>he had language and directions to point me in in

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<v Speaker 3>ways that would help. I felt guided would help me

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<v Speaker 3>to find answers and kind of understanding as well as

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<v Speaker 3>perhaps relief from this. Shortly before I fully gave myself

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<v Speaker 3>over to the ward, about a year later after this,

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<v Speaker 3>I had a I was still doing some Shortly before

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<v Speaker 3>I had surrendered, I was still doing meditations and I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't practicing in witchcraft I mentioned earlier, I was a

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<v Speaker 3>divination practitioner, tear at cards, pendulums, intuitive reads, things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't something I made money off of, but it

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<v Speaker 3>was something I was really good at. I was also

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<v Speaker 3>really fixated on automatic writing and channeling, which I found

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<v Speaker 3>out through Heiser's work were gates, doorways, ways for to

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<v Speaker 3>amplify what was happening to me in my dream life,

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<v Speaker 3>as well as amplifying these these gifts that I had,

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<v Speaker 3>but but perverting them, you know, and leaving me quite

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<v Speaker 3>open to something quite dangerous. It was really before I surrendered,

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<v Speaker 3>I had I had stopped all of the witchcraft, but

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<v Speaker 3>I was still practicing like breathing methods and meditations, and

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<v Speaker 3>I had been feeling, for lack of a better term,

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<v Speaker 3>like haunted by the constellation Orion. I know I sound

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<v Speaker 3>like a lunatic, but I'm a very intelligent, smart person.

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<v Speaker 3>But I can't tell you I couldn't. There was nowhere

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<v Speaker 3>I could go where I didn't see the the the

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<v Speaker 3>alignment of the Orion constellation. Everything from three dots would

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<v Speaker 3>be exactly placed, like the Giza Pyramid, like the Belt

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<v Speaker 3>of Orion. I would see it everywhere. And so I

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<v Speaker 3>was still a meditative person, and I decided, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was actually to the point of ponting to where in

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<v Speaker 3>my backyard or in my patio. At this time, I

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<v Speaker 3>was still a smoker. It was on my patio, smoking cigarette.

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<v Speaker 3>And I would do this every evening, you know, before

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<v Speaker 3>I would go to bed or just to relax. And

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<v Speaker 3>for at least two weeks straight, the Orion Belt was

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<v Speaker 3>literally if I turned around, it was exactly in view

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<v Speaker 3>from my house. After the first week, I got curious

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<v Speaker 3>because it seemed like these stars were not moving. So

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<v Speaker 3>I went on and got an app those ones that

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<v Speaker 3>allow you to see the constellations where they are in

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<v Speaker 3>the day and the night. You just kind of hold

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<v Speaker 3>your phone or your tablet around and it'll, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>show you where wherever you're pointing at what's out there.

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<v Speaker 3>And the Orion belt was not there. It was supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to be a completely different place. But for another week

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<v Speaker 3>I saw this, and I had a bunch of pictures

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<v Speaker 3>of it, But my my phone got attacked and I

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<v Speaker 3>got black spring to death, and so all of the

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<v Speaker 3>stuff on there was inaccessible. Otherwise I would share those

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<v Speaker 3>photos with you as well, of But so I decided

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<v Speaker 3>instead of still meditating, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna meditate.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt this guided information to meditate to whatever this

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<v Speaker 3>who they want me to meditate to, these orion constellations.

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<v Speaker 3>So after everyone was asleep, I got up and I

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<v Speaker 3>or I could clearly see it, and I I for

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<v Speaker 3>whatever reason, was guided to lay down on the floor

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<v Speaker 3>instead of in a meditative position but facing it. So

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<v Speaker 3>I did and I laid there, and you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>very quick into meditation. I could go very deeply, very

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<v Speaker 3>I was very practiced in this, and so I was

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<v Speaker 3>just emptying myself like that you're supposed to do, which,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, very dangerous. I'll tell you why. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm laying there, breathing, relaxing, emptying, opening up to tell

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<v Speaker 3>want me to know? The moment I get to, which

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<v Speaker 3>is very quickly a that perfect state, with my eyes closed,

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<v Speaker 3>I could see completely as if they with now my

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<v Speaker 3>eyes are closed. I know this sounds very tricky. My

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<v Speaker 3>eyes are closed, and I can see these shadow these

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<v Speaker 3>shadow beings no taller than perhaps the height of what

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<v Speaker 3>we consider a gray. There are seven of them, and

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<v Speaker 3>they are slowly walking toward my body, toward my left leg,

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<v Speaker 3>and they all reach down and touch like a hand

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<v Speaker 3>up the length of my left leg. And as soon

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<v Speaker 3>as they touch me, I feel like I'm being pred

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<v Speaker 3>into mud. But I'm just in my living room on

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<v Speaker 3>the floor, but I can the sensation is intense. At

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<v Speaker 3>this point, I didn't I just kept going with it.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought they're going to tell me whatever this is,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they'll leave me alone. They slowly progress, touching

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<v Speaker 3>my body all the way up to the left side,

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<v Speaker 3>walking and touching, and then they all stand around my head.

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<v Speaker 3>They're all like behind the top of my head, and

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<v Speaker 3>they start poking tapping what is not my skull because

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't make that sound like it's tapping your skull.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like it was tapping my brain. And then

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<v Speaker 3>one came up, one lifted my head like I felt

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<v Speaker 3>the sensation, but I'm pretty sure I didn't move. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I wasn't watching and put its thumb

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<v Speaker 3>like cradled my head in its hands from behind, and

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<v Speaker 3>then put its thumbs on where your occipital lobe is,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's the bottom like where the nape of the

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<v Speaker 3>skull is. It's actually where our delta the delta waves

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<v Speaker 3>all of that is processed, and just touches it with

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<v Speaker 3>both of the thumbs. And then I went as if

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<v Speaker 3>I hadn't been breathing and sat up and I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't obviously, I didn't get any answers of what

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<v Speaker 3>that was. Then whatever they wanted me to do, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna tell you what happened there, because I had a

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<v Speaker 3>I took a nap one day, just late two thousand

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<v Speaker 3>and three, a nap. My son was at school on

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<v Speaker 3>school now, but he was at school at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought, I'll just sitness recliner chair and take

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<v Speaker 3>a little nap. Now, this is the I fall asleep.

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<v Speaker 3>And one experience that happens with people who have astral.

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<v Speaker 3>along with this vivid, lucid and astral dreaming, you'll get

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<v Speaker 3>what's called pulled astral or voluntary astral, and that's where

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<v Speaker 3>you willingly walk out of the body or you get

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<v Speaker 3>pulled out, and along with that some this isn't less common,

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<v Speaker 3>but you may get what I get, which is called

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<v Speaker 3>false awakenings. And that's where you'll be in the dream

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<v Speaker 3>and you will I think you're awake, and it's very

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<v Speaker 3>different than astral, but you'll get up and like in

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<v Speaker 3>this instance, I got up about five times out of

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<v Speaker 3>the chair, walked into the kitchen or more coffee, microwaved

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<v Speaker 3>one at one point because I could feel the temperature

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<v Speaker 3>was not warm enough, and then got like suck back

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<v Speaker 3>into my body. I'm back in the chair. Okay, whatever

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get up. Got This is ridiculous. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>wake up now. And I also experienced, along with the

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<v Speaker 3>pull back into the body, this other thing, which uh

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<v Speaker 3>I should have brought up earlier that it's called I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if it has a name. Vicky Joey Anderson

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<v Speaker 3>calls it something, but it's this. It's a it's like

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<v Speaker 3>this thing that will block your vision where it literally

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<v Speaker 3>feels like a like a black screen is coming down

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<v Speaker 3>and you keep having to kind of go down to

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<v Speaker 3>try to look under the screen and try to get out.

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<v Speaker 3>If I don't get that, I'll get the pulled back

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<v Speaker 3>into your body thing. So it's so what my research

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<v Speaker 3>shows it has something to do with whatever time spending

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<v Speaker 3>through the veil that you're in the astral it's not

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<v Speaker 3>wanting you to see and for whatever reason, they want

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<v Speaker 3>to rewind you when they suck you back. But so anyways,

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<v Speaker 3>the sucking back and the nap, and the nap happens

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<v Speaker 3>at least I lost count how many times it happens.

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<v Speaker 3>And by this point I'm super frustrated. But remember something

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<v Speaker 3>that Vicky always stuck with me, and that was to

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<v Speaker 3>look for the glitches. Okay, look for the glitches. Look

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<v Speaker 3>for the thing that's off. Is there a door that

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't be there, furniture that you don't own, or isn't there,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, look for because they can't fully mimic everything.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I do, and I look, and I see, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that door doesn't open that way, and and then I realized,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my gosh, like that chair is not that color. Okay, okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 3>So I immediately am no longer. I just tell myself, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to like God is with me, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not going to be afraid. And I I had already

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<v Speaker 3>surrendered by this point to the Lord. And as soon

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<v Speaker 3>as I say in my mind, the thought goes through

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<v Speaker 3>where I say, okay, all right, I'm onto you, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm onto it. I know what's up. Someone's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>try to come and do something crazy or mess with me,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm not gonna be afraid because God's with me.

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<v Speaker 3>The moment that happens, I am, I have of the

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<v Speaker 3>sensation of my arms and my legs are in strengths,

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<v Speaker 3>and I can't get up, and and then I feel

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<v Speaker 3>hand like what feels like hands on my head, like

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<v Speaker 3>holding my head back, and I'm just sitting and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my gosh, oh my gosh, okay, all right, what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on? And and then I hear in my left

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<v Speaker 3>ear and it says, you know, you asked for us

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<v Speaker 3>to come. We're not leaving, but it was more like

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<v Speaker 3>first to come. And immediately I just said, I know

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<v Speaker 3>that you're with me. I pray, I pray that you'll

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<v Speaker 3>be with me right and lordly help me. And then

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<v Speaker 3>I had a false awakening and then immediately the straps

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<v Speaker 3>are back again, and this time I hear the Lord.

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<v Speaker 3>The Lord tell me in my ear. He says, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 3>It's okay, I'm here, it's all right, I'm here. And

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<v Speaker 3>as soon as that happens, I get this sensation that

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<v Speaker 3>two hands like like light, as if someone was behind me,

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<v Speaker 3>and they put both with their hands over my mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I hear in my ear pray, now they've

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<v Speaker 3>covered my mouth. And as soon as that happens, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel the Lord tell me I'm still here. I'm still here.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I feel my left arm or my right

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<v Speaker 3>arm will release like there's no strap on it, and

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<v Speaker 3>he says, the Lord tells me, I pull them out.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what that means. But immediately went to

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<v Speaker 3>reach to my left knee and I start pulling this

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<v Speaker 3>like it's not smoke, it's not liquid, but it's black

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<v Speaker 3>and it's gooey and stretchy. And I pull it out

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<v Speaker 3>of my knee like the all the sensations of it,

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<v Speaker 3>as if something's coming out of me. And then I

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<v Speaker 3>as soon as I it's out, and you hear like

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<v Speaker 3>this little kind of snappy sound. It goes like go on.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the Lord says again, and I go and

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<v Speaker 3>pull at my I put my hand in a fist

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm able to grab something out of the front

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<v Speaker 3>of my left hip and I pull the same thing

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<v Speaker 3>I can literally feel like the stretchy grossness, same looking stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and goes away. And then I pull another one out

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<v Speaker 3>of my shoulder. This went on, from what I could tell,

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<v Speaker 3>at least seven or eight times, seven times and then

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<v Speaker 3>then the Lord. Then I feel the sensation of a

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<v Speaker 3>mask being put over my face and a strap around

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<v Speaker 3>my throat and my arm is stuck again. And then

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<v Speaker 3>and uh, and I just I hear like this this

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<v Speaker 3>I can hear it in my head, but I cannot

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<v Speaker 3>like repeat it. It's like a It almost sounds like

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<v Speaker 3>if you were tightening straps, you know, not not a

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<v Speaker 3>clinky metal like on a truck strap for like a semi,

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<v Speaker 3>but like like if you were like leather straps, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I hear that sound and everything is getting tired on

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<v Speaker 3>my body and now it's on my throat, and I like,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't. I feel like I can't breathe. And then

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<v Speaker 3>I hear the Lord and he says, I got this one.

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<v Speaker 3>And then all of a sudden, in my lower like

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<v Speaker 3>where my tailbone is, I feel that stretching and pulling

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<v Speaker 3>and stretching and pulling, but this one is huge, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's pulling through out of my back through the chair

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<v Speaker 3>to where I can feel myself being pulled into the

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<v Speaker 3>chair and pulling pulling, and you can almost it almost

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<v Speaker 3>feels like the pulling is now two hands having to

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<v Speaker 3>pull it pulls it out. And then that one made this.

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<v Speaker 4>Preey creepy like slow draggy sound after it was pulled out,

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<v Speaker 4>but it almost hurt when I almost like felt pain

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<v Speaker 4>when it finally stretchingly pulled out, and then.

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<v Speaker 3>I all of a sudden, Okay, then I have oh

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<v Speaker 3>that comes out, and then as I'm laying there, the

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<v Speaker 3>throat sensation was subsided. I still couldn't move my body,

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<v Speaker 3>but then I started going up, like flat up into

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<v Speaker 3>the ceiling, and then everything turned light and I woke

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<v Speaker 3>up as my poor husband walks into the living room

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<v Speaker 3>right at that as that happened, and I just have

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<v Speaker 3>this like shocked look my face. And mind you, he's supportive,

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<v Speaker 3>but like he's never experienced anything like this. Though it

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<v Speaker 3>took me a minute to even realize I wasn't there anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it was that it was that intense. I

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<v Speaker 3>later on I had a dream and I felt the

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<v Speaker 3>Lord was explaining to me that this was those things

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<v Speaker 3>being pulled out of me whatever I had invited in.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the whole concept of like Hitchhiker, why I

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<v Speaker 3>definitely reward against. You know, people need to think about

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<v Speaker 3>what they're doing and the actual gravitas of what they're

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<v Speaker 3>doing when they're doing this like ce five psionic stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm saying this because of what happened. That the

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<v Speaker 3>Lord really showed me about what happened to me is

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<v Speaker 3>these things, Yes, they came, and the eye openly opened

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<v Speaker 3>the door for them to come to me, but then

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<v Speaker 3>they came to my kids, and it ended up in

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<v Speaker 3>a situation with which I had a deliverance dream where

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<v Speaker 3>I delivered my son from this like I had done

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<v Speaker 3>to myself, essentially, you know, with the Lord's help. What

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<v Speaker 3>my understanding was is that that was a deliverance of

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<v Speaker 3>those out of myself and with my son. In that situation,

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<v Speaker 3>I was in a another lucid dream. Side note my

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<v Speaker 3>the spectrum, and oddly enough my with my son, I've

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<v Speaker 3>had these wild ones where we've whenever I have a

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<v Speaker 3>dream with him, there's always like a weird portal and

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<v Speaker 3>in this one with him, we were in a in

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<v Speaker 3>this house that had no doors on the inside. It

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00:26:58.279 --> 00:27:02.640
<v Speaker 3>had doorways into different rooms, but there was no exit out.

418
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:05.119
<v Speaker 3>We were walking around for a little bit and I

419
00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:10.599
<v Speaker 3>was I noticed that that there's no there weren't even windows,

420
00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:16.640
<v Speaker 3>there were just rooms with no doors and just the doorway.

421
00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:20.200
<v Speaker 3>And the moment I was like, okay, well we need

422
00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:23.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking I'm just thinking this in my mind, I

423
00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:25.119
<v Speaker 3>need to get him out of here. I feel like

424
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:28.400
<v Speaker 3>something's coming and that as soon as that happens, there

425
00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:33.319
<v Speaker 3>are these two huge, huge black dogs, not like a Rottweiler,

426
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:36.799
<v Speaker 3>more like a looking like a like a wolf looking,

427
00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:44.720
<v Speaker 3>but but but very like demonic looking, and they're behind me,

428
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:50.839
<v Speaker 3>but they're like in slow motion and they can't I'm

429
00:27:50.839 --> 00:27:54.039
<v Speaker 3>holding my son's hand and I'm just reminding myself like

430
00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:59.960
<v Speaker 3>I do and have learned to not have fear period

431
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.000
<v Speaker 3>when when, whenever this is happening because a lot of

432
00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:04.680
<v Speaker 3>these spirits and a lot of this stuff in this

433
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:07.440
<v Speaker 3>realm really enjoys when you're afraid. That's the whole point.

434
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:11.400
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of loution energy grabbing that's involved, and

435
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:15.440
<v Speaker 3>a lot of you know, you're more likely to make

436
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:17.960
<v Speaker 3>a contract with them or do what it is that

437
00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:22.559
<v Speaker 3>they want, you know, if you're either afraid or you know,

438
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:28.720
<v Speaker 3>there's even instances where you're uh tricked or you know, seduced,

439
00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:31.440
<v Speaker 3>which is another thing we'll get into do in here

440
00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:35.319
<v Speaker 3>a second, and like involving incubus succubist type stuff and

441
00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:37.720
<v Speaker 3>what people do when they pleasure themselves. I got to

442
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.160
<v Speaker 3>see what those little demons look like and it's horrible.

443
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:44.519
<v Speaker 3>So in this deliverance with my son, I see these

444
00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:47.880
<v Speaker 3>dogs that are slowed down. They're like literally at a

445
00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:51.039
<v Speaker 3>slowed down rate. I can tell they're running to us.

446
00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:54.039
<v Speaker 3>They're like not foaming at the mouth, but they are

447
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:58.200
<v Speaker 3>teeth snarling, looking like they're ready to attack us. And

448
00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:01.759
<v Speaker 3>as soon as I notice, there's this cat and it

449
00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:04.599
<v Speaker 3>comes up to me, and I have this knowing to

450
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:07.319
<v Speaker 3>follow this cat. The cat knows the way out, so

451
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:10.279
<v Speaker 3>I start following the cat. But the cat goes into

452
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:15.319
<v Speaker 3>like this closet. It has a door, but it's a closet,

453
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:17.759
<v Speaker 3>and I just have this knowing, Okay, we have to

454
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:20.880
<v Speaker 3>go in here. Go in there. I close the door

455
00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:25.279
<v Speaker 3>and I lock it. There's a lock on it, and

456
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:28.559
<v Speaker 3>my son is sitting down in this chair that's in

457
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:31.960
<v Speaker 3>this closet, and the cat's just chilling out on the floor.

458
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:34.359
<v Speaker 3>But all of a sudden, it's like those dogs were

459
00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:38.640
<v Speaker 3>now not in slow motion, they were growing nuts at

460
00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:42.799
<v Speaker 3>the door. And as soon as I'm thinking, oh my gosh,

461
00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:45.400
<v Speaker 3>what am I going to do, my son collapses to

462
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:50.519
<v Speaker 3>the floor and he is his eyes are as if

463
00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:53.680
<v Speaker 3>they're rolled back in his head. He's motionless, he's not breathing,

464
00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:58.480
<v Speaker 3>and I just hear, I have this knowing that comes

465
00:29:58.519 --> 00:30:01.039
<v Speaker 3>into my head that says, put him on your lap,

466
00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:03.319
<v Speaker 3>and you need to prey on him right now. And

467
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:06.680
<v Speaker 3>so I didn't grab him, scoop him in my arms,

468
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:10.960
<v Speaker 3>lay him across my lap, and I just put my

469
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:12.599
<v Speaker 3>hand on him, and I start praying, and then the

470
00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:15.759
<v Speaker 3>Lord says, no, you're going to command them out. You're

471
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:19.119
<v Speaker 3>going to command them out. And I don't even remember

472
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:22.079
<v Speaker 3>what I said. It was nothing like an Exorcist movie,

473
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:26.880
<v Speaker 3>though you know I wasn't. It was literally the symbol

474
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:31.039
<v Speaker 3>words that I said, and I did it three times,

475
00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:31.960
<v Speaker 3>and then all of a.

476
00:30:31.960 --> 00:30:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Sudden, that same stuff that I pulled out of meat

477
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:37.960
<v Speaker 2>came shooting up out of my son's mouth, that even

478
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:40.720
<v Speaker 2>came out his ears and his eyes and his nose

479
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:43.160
<v Speaker 2>and just went away.

480
00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:47.519
<v Speaker 3>And he went and was awake, and as soon as

481
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:51.480
<v Speaker 3>he took in a breath, a door like a doorway

482
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:55.920
<v Speaker 3>opened with light outside, and the crat goes out, and

483
00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:58.279
<v Speaker 3>I just have my son in my arms and we

484
00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:05.319
<v Speaker 3>go out the door and I wake up and h yeah,

485
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:11.000
<v Speaker 3>that was insane. It weirded me out, but also was

486
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:16.640
<v Speaker 3>oddly very empowering because there was just this inner knowing

487
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:22.880
<v Speaker 3>that that these things, you know, Bicky Joy Underson goes

488
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.359
<v Speaker 3>over a lot of it, these things in the spirit,

489
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:31.240
<v Speaker 3>whether you're whether it's sent from the enemy, you know,

490
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:36.400
<v Speaker 3>like the devil, darkness, or witches or any kind of

491
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:41.359
<v Speaker 3>practitioner or people that that know and utilize these areas.

492
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:46.039
<v Speaker 3>These are We're very susceptible when we're asleep. The Bible

493
00:31:46.079 --> 00:31:49.079
<v Speaker 3>speaks of it very often, people asking for your protection

494
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:52.160
<v Speaker 3>while they're sleeping. And that is not because of animals

495
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:54.680
<v Speaker 3>they're going to come to eat them. It's because when

496
00:31:54.720 --> 00:32:00.240
<v Speaker 3>we're asleep, we are vulnerable, you know, sleep purless. I

497
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:03.480
<v Speaker 3>know all of the the medical terminology and the reasoning

498
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:06.880
<v Speaker 3>why that there is so much to this that is

499
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:11.519
<v Speaker 3>by far more than just the biological state that happens

500
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:14.519
<v Speaker 3>in the mind and with the body to paralyze it

501
00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:17.160
<v Speaker 3>so that it doesn't get up and move around. In

502
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:19.400
<v Speaker 3>my own research with like I said, with the uf

503
00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:23.799
<v Speaker 3>UFO of deputies in my lab people, the same kind

504
00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:29.359
<v Speaker 3>of scenario is happening to them, but it's aliens that

505
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:36.319
<v Speaker 3>they see. For me, I see like paranormal, demonic looking

506
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:42.920
<v Speaker 3>stuff and it's been the same experience with my all

507
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:45.799
<v Speaker 3>three of my kids when when they have had these things.

508
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:48.279
<v Speaker 3>And and I do believe some people are more susceptible,

509
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.079
<v Speaker 3>you know. I've done some studies with looking into a

510
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:56.440
<v Speaker 3>lot of like Gary Wayne's work and Fritz Springmire, and

511
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:00.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, they understand like the bloodlines stuff and people

512
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:05.839
<v Speaker 3>with gifts. But either way, you amplify these things when

513
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:09.920
<v Speaker 3>you have gates. You know. I I was a former alcoholic.

514
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:14.519
<v Speaker 3>I close some gates with that. But the bloodline stuff

515
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:19.279
<v Speaker 3>involves contracts that can be made even in our dreams

516
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.240
<v Speaker 3>and uh you know, like I did with the Orion thing,

517
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:26.640
<v Speaker 3>any kind of uh CE five psionic type stuff and

518
00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:31.039
<v Speaker 3>open gates for hitchhikers. And I had no idea that

519
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:34.519
<v Speaker 3>I was my bloodline was already prone to this familiar

520
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.759
<v Speaker 3>spirit which is how it's called hit is called hitchhiker

521
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:41.599
<v Speaker 3>effect in you know, in the paranormal of like ghosts

522
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:46.319
<v Speaker 3>and with upology bionics. But for the most part, in

523
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:49.200
<v Speaker 3>the bloodline stuff, it's called familiar spirits and even in

524
00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:52.319
<v Speaker 3>in the occult and New Age they'll call it that.

525
00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:59.559
<v Speaker 3>But I got to see what uh I do warnt against,

526
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:02.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, I want people to look at look up

527
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:04.759
<v Speaker 3>some of these, you know, Gary, Wayne, Michael as Heiser,

528
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:10.000
<v Speaker 3>Vicky joy Anderson. But uh, Vicky has particularly wanted me

529
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:14.800
<v Speaker 3>to share seeing the the lust, one of the lust

530
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:21.360
<v Speaker 3>and masturbation things. So I have been uh, I'm not

531
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:23.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm not the first person that this has happened to

532
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:29.519
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people who have had you know, Betsy dreams.

533
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:34.840
<v Speaker 3>And I've had horrifying ones and ones that I thought

534
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:40.239
<v Speaker 3>were great, and I would also have these. The closer

535
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:43.280
<v Speaker 3>I got to the Lord, I started experiencing a reminder

536
00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:45.000
<v Speaker 3>of ones I used to get as a child where

537
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:49.519
<v Speaker 3>and I won't be super graphic, but where it would

538
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:54.760
<v Speaker 3>be as if one is touching themselves. And uh, there

539
00:34:54.760 --> 00:35:00.039
<v Speaker 3>was an instance that happened in uh, an attack of

540
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:07.400
<v Speaker 3>that nature about six six months ago. And as soon

541
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:11.599
<v Speaker 3>as in in that realm, I'm because it's vivid, it's lucid.

542
00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:16.960
<v Speaker 3>There were I noticed the glitches, but for whatever reason,

543
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:23.199
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't stopping what I was doing. And ah, then

544
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:26.800
<v Speaker 3>there was just like this this uh overwhelming sense of

545
00:35:26.960 --> 00:35:31.440
<v Speaker 3>what am I doing? And I stopped what I was

546
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:36.679
<v Speaker 3>doing and really took in the glitches I was seeing,

547
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:40.760
<v Speaker 3>and like Where am I? What is this? Why? Why?

548
00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:44.440
<v Speaker 3>And then as soon as I was in my mind,

549
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.400
<v Speaker 3>I was thinking, why do they want me to do this?

550
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:50.039
<v Speaker 3>And by day I mean whatever attacts me and you know,

551
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:53.360
<v Speaker 3>comes for me in these this realm. I see in

552
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:56.800
<v Speaker 3>my peripheral to the left a shadow and then I look,

553
00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:59.760
<v Speaker 3>I turn my whole head. I turn and there is

554
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:05.639
<v Speaker 3>this little like he's kind of black. He's not really scaly,

555
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:11.880
<v Speaker 3>but sort of and he's like he's like squatting down

556
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:14.320
<v Speaker 3>but on his feet. You know, so if you were

557
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:16.920
<v Speaker 3>to go from standing to down to where not your

558
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:19.519
<v Speaker 3>butt's on the ground, but just your feet. He's squatting

559
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:23.199
<v Speaker 3>like that. He has both his he's holding his hands

560
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:25.679
<v Speaker 3>and they're kind of ringing, you know how you like

561
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:29.000
<v Speaker 3>wring your hands. He's doing that and like hopping, bouncing

562
00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:32.880
<v Speaker 3>up and down. He's and he's going, come, come, give

563
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:36.280
<v Speaker 3>it to me, Give it to come Kaklan. And I

564
00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:42.039
<v Speaker 3>look over and I was like what And I was like, no,

565
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:46.880
<v Speaker 3>you're not gonna have it. And I woke up. But

566
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:49.760
<v Speaker 3>right before I woke up, I had this knowing that

567
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:54.440
<v Speaker 3>that is what waits to collect your in your energy,

568
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:59.800
<v Speaker 3>your sacrifice, which is which in the spirit, spiritual component

569
00:36:59.880 --> 00:37:04.320
<v Speaker 3>is what you know self pleasure is, that's what's waiting

570
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:06.960
<v Speaker 3>for you. And if people could see, I wish I

571
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:10.480
<v Speaker 3>was a better artist, because I would draw it. If

572
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:14.079
<v Speaker 3>you could see what is waiting to take that from you,

573
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:15.880
<v Speaker 3>you wouldn't whatever. You wouldn't want to give it to

574
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:18.559
<v Speaker 3>him either. I mean, it was just the creepiest, weirdest

575
00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:22.119
<v Speaker 3>thing I'd ever seen. But I mean I've seen I've

576
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:26.880
<v Speaker 3>seen some wild stuff, and but these are these are

577
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:29.480
<v Speaker 3>just some of them. I've also had some really wild

578
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:33.400
<v Speaker 3>I also have hate saying like, oh, I'm a prophetic dreamer,

579
00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:36.760
<v Speaker 3>but that happens sometimes to me. That's happened quite a

580
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:41.599
<v Speaker 3>lot throughout my life. A wild one that happened last

581
00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:47.119
<v Speaker 3>year before. Let's see which date was it? Looking through

582
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:49.599
<v Speaker 3>one of mys a dream journal here.

583
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:51.320
<v Speaker 4>It was.

584
00:37:55.079 --> 00:38:06.159
<v Speaker 3>It was in uh October, in October. Yeah, I had

585
00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:08.840
<v Speaker 3>a dream. Some of the context is not it was

586
00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:11.800
<v Speaker 3>really just for me. But there was a dream that

587
00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:16.000
<v Speaker 3>I had where I saw all of these like everyone

588
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:19.079
<v Speaker 3>was looking up into the skies and I saw all

589
00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:22.719
<v Speaker 3>these planes falling out of the sky, flying upside down

590
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:26.519
<v Speaker 3>like like regular planes, and then some planes like and

591
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:29.960
<v Speaker 3>helicopters like with their like just their wings and stuff

592
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:33.199
<v Speaker 3>just like falling off and they're just all crashing. And

593
00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:37.239
<v Speaker 3>of course that's something that we we've been seeing lately.

594
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Although I did find out that in the UFO adductee

595
00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:44.880
<v Speaker 3>community is very common to have. There's quite a number

596
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:47.960
<v Speaker 3>of people that I've befriended that they've also had the

597
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:52.800
<v Speaker 3>planes falling from the sky. And then shortly after that

598
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:56.400
<v Speaker 3>I'd had another one where because a lot of these

599
00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:59.039
<v Speaker 3>people a lot of these these things in the spirit

600
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:03.360
<v Speaker 3>will they like to like I've mentioned a few times,

601
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:05.760
<v Speaker 3>they create they want you to make a covenant or

602
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:09.920
<v Speaker 3>a deal or a contract. The very legalistic and this

603
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:13.719
<v Speaker 3>can be which is you know, which is Vicky Duranmerson

604
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:17.079
<v Speaker 3>talks about that. I've experienced that a number of people.

605
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:20.760
<v Speaker 3>But that'll actually be which is traveling through the Assholt

606
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:23.280
<v Speaker 3>trying to see if they can, you know, get you

607
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:27.559
<v Speaker 3>into a deal. There's also them onnic spirits that will

608
00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:30.840
<v Speaker 3>do that. A lot of familiar spirits will do that.

609
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:32.800
<v Speaker 3>That that means those are spirits that have been in

610
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:36.920
<v Speaker 3>your family line, that have been uh with a contract

611
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.000
<v Speaker 3>has been made either in the waking or in the

612
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:43.599
<v Speaker 3>sleep knowingly or unknowingly, which is frustrating, I know, because

613
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:45.679
<v Speaker 3>you don't even know if this is Sometimes we don't

614
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:48.280
<v Speaker 3>remember our dreams, right, so maybe you don't know if

615
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:51.519
<v Speaker 3>you did something. A good A good tip is I

616
00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:54.519
<v Speaker 3>always call it the Owls in Wonderland tip, and that is,

617
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:58.960
<v Speaker 3>don't eat anything your best ability, don't drink anything, don't

618
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:03.679
<v Speaker 3>take any gifts. I've had everything from people trying to

619
00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:07.920
<v Speaker 3>give me cats, like trying to get me like here

620
00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:11.280
<v Speaker 3>take my cat, or here, don't you want this drink?

621
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:15.119
<v Speaker 3>And uh, you know, I'm not gonna say it hasn't

622
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:17.840
<v Speaker 3>happened where I've I've industed whatever it is or taken

623
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:22.679
<v Speaker 3>whatever by surprise. But a good a good hip for

624
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:29.000
<v Speaker 3>people when you wake up, I would advise, and I

625
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:31.960
<v Speaker 3>do advise because the only thing that's given me any

626
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:36.159
<v Speaker 3>kind of control or power and peace in this because

627
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:38.480
<v Speaker 3>I can't stop it from happening, it happens when it happens,

628
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:42.239
<v Speaker 3>is knowing that the Lord has given us the power

629
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:46.280
<v Speaker 3>to tread on scorpions and snakes, and like Ephesians six

630
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:50.320
<v Speaker 3>twelve talks about we that'll not against flesh and blood,

631
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:57.360
<v Speaker 3>but principalities, spiritual wickedness in high places. And you know,

632
00:40:57.960 --> 00:40:59.639
<v Speaker 3>I'm not the only person who sees the world the

633
00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:06.000
<v Speaker 3>way it is is being quite off, very evil in

634
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:10.199
<v Speaker 3>some aspects, and things manifesting to where we have people

635
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:13.280
<v Speaker 3>doing and acting in ways that almost seem like they're possessed.

636
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:20.039
<v Speaker 3>That's because we live in a spiritual world. For what

637
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:22.840
<v Speaker 3>was I saying? Sorry, Oh, but as far as like

638
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:26.199
<v Speaker 3>the when you wake up from in the morning, there

639
00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:28.360
<v Speaker 3>are there are some tips I might give when you

640
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:32.159
<v Speaker 3>go to sleep and when you wake up. Some people

641
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:34.280
<v Speaker 3>you might be too tired or like that nap day,

642
00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:36.079
<v Speaker 3>I didn't pray before I went and took a nap.

643
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:41.079
<v Speaker 3>But it's a good, good habit to get in even

644
00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:44.920
<v Speaker 3>if you are not a follower price I do recommend

645
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:47.599
<v Speaker 3>just looking these up on your phone, these Bible verses.

646
00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:50.320
<v Speaker 3>I won't read them here unless you want me to.

647
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:54.920
<v Speaker 3>But so Almost twenty seven really was very powerful for anybody.

648
00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:59.440
<v Speaker 3>For me of it touched me and gave me a

649
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:03.920
<v Speaker 3>sense of home when it came to this whole realm

650
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:06.000
<v Speaker 3>that I've had these attacks. And you know, in the

651
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:10.719
<v Speaker 3>spirit realm, Psalm twenty seven is really great. And then

652
00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:16.639
<v Speaker 3>Psalm ninety one is a very powerful prayer. My friend

653
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:19.719
<v Speaker 3>who was on your show, Mario, he and I both

654
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:22.320
<v Speaker 3>really like that one. That one is a protection prayer.

655
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:29.519
<v Speaker 3>And also, of course Ephesians six versus ten through twenty

656
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:36.760
<v Speaker 3>I recommend. And then Isaiah fifty four seventeen is super powerful,

657
00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:39.119
<v Speaker 3>and that is I will read that it's short, but

658
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:41.840
<v Speaker 3>that one is no weapon formed against you shall prosper,

659
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:44.760
<v Speaker 3>and every tongue which rises against you in judgment you

660
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:47.280
<v Speaker 3>shall condemn. This is the heritage of my servants of

661
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:50.960
<v Speaker 3>the Lord, and the righteousness from me. So because for

662
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:54.239
<v Speaker 3>me it's very personal when these attacks are happening, I

663
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:58.159
<v Speaker 3>do see a pattern and people that have these intents

664
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:04.760
<v Speaker 3>continued experiences. Vicky Jory Anderson always kind of coins it

665
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:08.119
<v Speaker 3>as us not being We're not this is this isn't

666
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:11.800
<v Speaker 3>happening to us. This is happening for us because we are.

667
00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:14.719
<v Speaker 3>Actually I look at this as spiritual training, like spiritual

668
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:18.440
<v Speaker 3>warfare training. This is an experience that I have, that's

669
00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:22.119
<v Speaker 3>part of my reality in my life that not everybody has,

670
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:26.920
<v Speaker 3>but it is very real. And if they're if this

671
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:31.119
<v Speaker 3>is something that I'm experiencing, and I know others are,

672
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:34.440
<v Speaker 3>but they don't, they don't know what's happening to them.

673
00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:37.760
<v Speaker 3>I want them it might be, you know, not all

674
00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:41.679
<v Speaker 3>up to me, but I feel very guided to help

675
00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:47.360
<v Speaker 3>teach people how to take the offense in these situations,

676
00:43:48.119 --> 00:43:52.239
<v Speaker 3>to help them understand what is actually happening and maybe

677
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:55.639
<v Speaker 3>even perhaps why. I've gotten to know a number of

678
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:58.719
<v Speaker 3>people that I've gotten to know them enough to where

679
00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:03.000
<v Speaker 3>we can, you know, divulge personal information or they'll they'll

680
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:07.280
<v Speaker 3>be comfortable enough to talk to me about like their family,

681
00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:10.000
<v Speaker 3>their bloodline, things like that and you know, things, so

682
00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:13.920
<v Speaker 3>we can find connections as to where perhaps a familial

683
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:18.320
<v Speaker 3>spirit uh stronghold was put in and you know, we

684
00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:20.880
<v Speaker 3>can work against that at least, just kind of finding

685
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:24.000
<v Speaker 3>out what's after you? What why why are you being attacked?

686
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:30.119
<v Speaker 3>I mentioned earlier having gates open with substance use. That's

687
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:34.199
<v Speaker 3>that's really a good gateway. And then of course I

688
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:36.360
<v Speaker 3>wasn't an alcoholic when I was a little girl, but

689
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:39.639
<v Speaker 3>I was able to discover what those familiar spirits, what

690
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:44.599
<v Speaker 3>those strongholds and principalities that were after my bloodline, what

691
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.880
<v Speaker 3>why they were attacking me even as a child. And

692
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:51.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, it sounds like I'm talking a bunch of

693
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:56.280
<v Speaker 3>wild stuff. This is wild stuff, but it's very real.

694
00:44:57.079 --> 00:45:00.679
<v Speaker 3>And you know, I understand the sign of our brain

695
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:04.239
<v Speaker 3>processing our day, but none of this kind of stuff

696
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:07.159
<v Speaker 3>that I just even just even just the small bit

697
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:10.039
<v Speaker 3>that I told you about, is stuff that happens during

698
00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:14.960
<v Speaker 3>anybody's normal day. So and people will say, oh, people

699
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:18.440
<v Speaker 3>have a wonderful imagination, and I do have a good imagination.

700
00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:25.239
<v Speaker 3>But these are things especially, you know, I wouldn't I

701
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:27.280
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't put I wouldn't even put my worst enemy through

702
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:30.000
<v Speaker 3>these these kinds of things, because it is it is

703
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:33.840
<v Speaker 3>so it's so wild to have something where you're just sleeping.

704
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:35.559
<v Speaker 3>All you did was want to get you. All you

705
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:38.039
<v Speaker 3>did was go to sleep. He fell asleep, wanted to

706
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:42.280
<v Speaker 3>or fell asleep, and you are in a in a

707
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:49.960
<v Speaker 3>whole other experience of reality, you know. And and it's

708
00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:53.559
<v Speaker 3>been comforting to find other people who are experienced experiencing

709
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:56.239
<v Speaker 3>the same thing, have experienced the same thing, going through

710
00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:58.920
<v Speaker 3>the same thing. It's been you know, slightly validating or

711
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:03.239
<v Speaker 3>if anything, just comforting too. No, you're not the only

712
00:46:03.239 --> 00:46:06.360
<v Speaker 3>person having all the you know, getting attacked in when

713
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:09.480
<v Speaker 3>all you're trying to do is sleep. But there are

714
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:13.320
<v Speaker 3>ways too, there are ways to fight back. And if

715
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:16.920
<v Speaker 3>this is happening to you and you're not quite sure

716
00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:21.760
<v Speaker 3>of what to do, one thing for sure, I recommend.

717
00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:24.800
<v Speaker 3>Maybe you're not into prayer, but if you wake up

718
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:26.440
<v Speaker 3>every morning, if you wake up when we wake up

719
00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:28.599
<v Speaker 3>in the morning, if you wake up, there's a reason

720
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:32.639
<v Speaker 3>you're alive. There's a reason you're awake. Some people didn't

721
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:36.199
<v Speaker 3>wake up. You woke up, You wake up. Remember the dream,

722
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:41.000
<v Speaker 3>you don't remember the dream. You can actually pray and pray.

723
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:44.280
<v Speaker 3>You can just say, Lord, have my father, I pray

724
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:48.280
<v Speaker 3>that you will if I that you will break and

725
00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:54.079
<v Speaker 3>cancel any contract, covenant, or feel or promise I may

726
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:58.719
<v Speaker 3>have made, knowingly or unknowingly in the dream. Realm, Amen.

727
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:01.760
<v Speaker 3>I know it's not silly, but if you really, you know,

728
00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:07.559
<v Speaker 3>if this is happening to you, it's very powerful. And

729
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:11.519
<v Speaker 3>a lot of those experiences of this phenomenon that I

730
00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:14.000
<v Speaker 3>have come to know, the only ones that are really

731
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:18.880
<v Speaker 3>having relief are the ones that have gone to Christ.

732
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:22.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm not pretreating a religion. I don't practice a religion.

733
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.760
<v Speaker 3>I guess I'm a follower of Jesus and the Bible.

734
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:30.559
<v Speaker 3>I really do believe that this is it is an

735
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:35.440
<v Speaker 3>insanely spiritual thing, and it needs to be battled with

736
00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:40.960
<v Speaker 3>spiritual means. It needs to be you know, this spiritual war.

737
00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:46.119
<v Speaker 3>You know that I'm being forged in. I know who knows.

738
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:48.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if I could just help one person, like

739
00:47:48.840 --> 00:47:51.280
<v Speaker 3>I said earlier, if I could help a person who

740
00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:55.679
<v Speaker 3>was me just five years ago, and be like, hey, uh,

741
00:47:56.880 --> 00:47:59.480
<v Speaker 3>you know who knows? Even just even if I never

742
00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:03.280
<v Speaker 3>meet the one person that I'm able to help, That's

743
00:48:03.280 --> 00:48:07.440
<v Speaker 3>why many because even if just a little bit puts

744
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:11.400
<v Speaker 3>them in a direction of having some kind of maybe

745
00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:14.199
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't go away, but just some kind of offense,

746
00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:16.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, instead of defensively being like Jesus helped me,

747
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:20.000
<v Speaker 3>which has worked for me and a couple of times didn't.

748
00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:25.119
<v Speaker 3>But knowing that they're after me for a reason, there's

749
00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:30.000
<v Speaker 3>something about me that they they want and I've come

750
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:32.320
<v Speaker 3>to know that it's and I don't mean this in

751
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:35.679
<v Speaker 3>any egotistical fashion, because I'm not excited about having a

752
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:40.000
<v Speaker 3>target on my head, but they want. They want me

753
00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:44.960
<v Speaker 3>because if they could take me down, then I uh

754
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:46.880
<v Speaker 3>that if they if they if they take me down

755
00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:49.559
<v Speaker 3>and bring them up, you know, go back to being

756
00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:53.039
<v Speaker 3>in witchcraft and all that stuff. Then then they don't

757
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:54.800
<v Speaker 3>have to worry about me if they've got me. But

758
00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:59.840
<v Speaker 3>now that I've gone to Christ, they they're like, oh no,

759
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:03.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, this is like a formidable foe. Now she's

760
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:07.000
<v Speaker 3>been trained up with this stuff. And I really feel

761
00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:09.880
<v Speaker 3>that that's that's that's something, you know. I have a

762
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:12.519
<v Speaker 3>much longer story that Pepper's in with all these things

763
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:15.880
<v Speaker 3>and dreams up the wazoo, But I really believe that

764
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:19.199
<v Speaker 3>this is something. I know people are experiencing this, and

765
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:22.000
<v Speaker 3>I've actually come to see that more of it's intensifying,

766
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:27.679
<v Speaker 3>and a lot of my UFO experiencers are now having

767
00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:33.719
<v Speaker 3>a view of what's happening as very spiritual in itself.

768
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:39.280
<v Speaker 3>I've had I go on spaces a lot. It's the

769
00:49:39.320 --> 00:49:43.159
<v Speaker 3>same name that I have here on X and I've

770
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:44.920
<v Speaker 3>gotten to know a number of really great people over

771
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:48.639
<v Speaker 3>there who have experienced both the same things that I

772
00:49:48.679 --> 00:49:53.400
<v Speaker 3>experienced and also consider themselves more UFO abductees. But we're

773
00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:59.039
<v Speaker 3>dealing with these insanely narcissistic energies, right, these spirits whatever

774
00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:02.440
<v Speaker 3>they're looking there, they're branding themselves, you know, over here

775
00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:04.199
<v Speaker 3>they look like this, like I said earlier, and over

776
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:08.159
<v Speaker 3>here they look like this. It's it's really the same thing,

777
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:15.559
<v Speaker 3>and it's very spiritual and dark and very self serving,

778
00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:20.320
<v Speaker 3>you know. And and even on both sides, I've noticed

779
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:23.159
<v Speaker 3>people who on the UFO side, once they realized that

780
00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:27.800
<v Speaker 3>for themselves, they've realized that this that even when they

781
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:30.960
<v Speaker 3>were nice to them, these these entities that are attacking them,

782
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:33.840
<v Speaker 3>and entities like I had where they're being nice, they're

783
00:50:33.880 --> 00:50:36.440
<v Speaker 3>actually just doing whatever to get what they want, whether

784
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:40.159
<v Speaker 3>they forcefully take it from me or they coherse me

785
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:44.480
<v Speaker 3>to get into agreement. Either way, it's it's serving only

786
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:47.599
<v Speaker 3>to them, and they don't like it when you fight back.

787
00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:55.480
<v Speaker 3>I've physically like bought things like I go on. I

788
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:57.400
<v Speaker 3>have these some of these dreams that I just call

789
00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:03.239
<v Speaker 3>them little missions. They because I fight stuff. It's wild

790
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:08.679
<v Speaker 3>battle things that look crazy. And then I also just

791
00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:11.840
<v Speaker 3>sometimes they look like people, but they're not people. They

792
00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:17.280
<v Speaker 3>have these big black eyes, and there's a way to

793
00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:21.719
<v Speaker 3>you know this, this whole realm is happening. You know,

794
00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:24.119
<v Speaker 3>it happens every time we sleep. I brought up that

795
00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:30.000
<v Speaker 3>occipital lobe for a reason because what I came to

796
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:33.639
<v Speaker 3>understand had happened to me during that orion experience meditation,

797
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:36.800
<v Speaker 3>I ended up having another dream that just brought clarity

798
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:41.039
<v Speaker 3>to it. And in the dream, I literally heard occipital lobe,

799
00:51:41.239 --> 00:51:45.440
<v Speaker 3>occipital lobe like occipit three times. And so the next

800
00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:47.760
<v Speaker 3>morning I was writing my dreams down and I was like,

801
00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:50.119
<v Speaker 3>apparently I need to look up occipital lobe. And that

802
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:53.159
<v Speaker 3>was where I had gathered that knowledge of like the

803
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:58.239
<v Speaker 3>delta waves, and that that's where our brain processes the

804
00:51:58.440 --> 00:52:03.559
<v Speaker 3>dream realm and sleep, and and those who have vivid,

805
00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:10.639
<v Speaker 3>astral and lucid dreaming that and consciousness. While they're like,

806
00:52:10.679 --> 00:52:13.639
<v Speaker 3>I'm fully conscious when I'm sleeping, it's in the dreams

807
00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:18.159
<v Speaker 3>I'm fully aware. But that's where it all occurs in

808
00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:24.079
<v Speaker 3>the brain, is the occipital you know. And I feel

809
00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:27.440
<v Speaker 3>like that has been knowledge that the Lord the Holy

810
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:29.679
<v Speaker 3>Spirit's given me to help me understand what's going on.

811
00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:32.719
<v Speaker 3>I definitely don't claim to have all the answers, and

812
00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:36.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm definitely still learning. But you know, this this is

813
00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:40.440
<v Speaker 3>a like I met my friend who was on here,

814
00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:46.440
<v Speaker 3>I met him over on X and uh, you know,

815
00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:48.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure what your two cents are when it

816
00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:52.440
<v Speaker 3>comes to this phenomenon, but it's I mean, it's as

817
00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:56.320
<v Speaker 3>real as as me sitting here talking to you. That's

818
00:52:56.800 --> 00:53:05.480
<v Speaker 3>that's the intensity of some of these experiences. And the palpability,

819
00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:10.199
<v Speaker 3>like the palpable sense. I mean, it's literally palpa when

820
00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:15.760
<v Speaker 3>the experience itself and to to throw it for people,

821
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:18.320
<v Speaker 3>to throw it away with just it being just a dream.

822
00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:20.199
<v Speaker 3>You know, a lot of people grew up hearing that,

823
00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:24.599
<v Speaker 3>oh it's just a dream. It's okay. I don't tell

824
00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:29.880
<v Speaker 3>my kids that I never have because of my own experiences,

825
00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:36.199
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, it's there's something happening there, and uh, you know,

826
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:40.440
<v Speaker 3>it's it is eerily similar. When I've like I said,

827
00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:42.679
<v Speaker 3>I've gotten to know a lot of the UFO community,

828
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:47.480
<v Speaker 3>and I've got teased very very similar experiences. They just

829
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:54.760
<v Speaker 3>appear differently. And I'm obviously very long winded.

830
00:53:56.960 --> 00:54:00.679
<v Speaker 1>Often do you have these dreams?

831
00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:05.920
<v Speaker 3>They have? They I have very vivid dreams usually every night.

832
00:54:06.519 --> 00:54:10.679
<v Speaker 3>I have actually been experiencing a lot of spiritual warfare

833
00:54:11.639 --> 00:54:14.639
<v Speaker 3>for those of you, those who know, they know, But

834
00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:22.280
<v Speaker 3>it is the effects of the unseen realm I have.

835
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:25.199
<v Speaker 3>I kind of put a target on myself. I went

836
00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:32.280
<v Speaker 3>over and and got got some pulled up my bootstraps

837
00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:33.679
<v Speaker 3>and thought, oh, I can do this, and so I

838
00:54:33.679 --> 00:54:37.480
<v Speaker 3>went over on X and and you know, had talked

839
00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:43.079
<v Speaker 3>in a bunch of spaces over there and got kind

840
00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:46.480
<v Speaker 3>of like spiritually attacked by people who were curious of

841
00:54:48.320 --> 00:54:50.360
<v Speaker 3>I know this sounds weird, like to say this, this

842
00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:54.360
<v Speaker 3>is spiritually attacked, but it's real. I mean, just the

843
00:54:54.400 --> 00:54:58.840
<v Speaker 3>fact that I had shared information. I'm not afraid of it.

844
00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:01.360
<v Speaker 3>It's not fun, it's not common casperable, but these kinds

845
00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:05.920
<v Speaker 3>of dreams will intensify. Recently, I've been having where I

846
00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:09.679
<v Speaker 3>I'm not remembering the dreams, and that's usually a sign

847
00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:12.760
<v Speaker 3>for me, at least throughout my adult life, that's the

848
00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:16.159
<v Speaker 3>sign that what I have language for now, it's a

849
00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:24.159
<v Speaker 3>sign of uh interception, there's something that it's either the

850
00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:29.280
<v Speaker 3>Lord is uh either not wanting you know, doesn't want

851
00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:32.840
<v Speaker 3>me to remember, or he's given me the information I

852
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:40.480
<v Speaker 3>need or healing, or it's it's someone not wanting to

853
00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:44.199
<v Speaker 3>you know, someone has come in and tried to do

854
00:55:44.360 --> 00:55:47.320
<v Speaker 3>something to stop the dream, you know, whether they've tried

855
00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:51.840
<v Speaker 3>witchcraft or they've tried some sort of other thing. I'm

856
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:54.719
<v Speaker 3>not saying that I believe in it, that I am

857
00:55:55.079 --> 00:55:58.199
<v Speaker 3>some sort of my labs person or although some of

858
00:55:58.199 --> 00:56:00.559
<v Speaker 3>my experiences from UFO people have said, wow, that's exactly

859
00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:02.960
<v Speaker 3>the same thing. Maybe they're just showing them, you know.

860
00:56:03.159 --> 00:56:05.719
<v Speaker 3>Like I said before, but I my vivid dream I

861
00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:09.480
<v Speaker 3>have vivid dreams every night. And there is something very

862
00:56:09.519 --> 00:56:13.320
<v Speaker 3>true to the people have heard about the witching hour, right,

863
00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:16.599
<v Speaker 3>it's called that. It's been called that forever, and that

864
00:56:16.679 --> 00:56:21.639
<v Speaker 3>time frame is technically from twelve midnight to five am,

865
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:28.760
<v Speaker 3>a very prominent time frame between two thirty and three thirty.

866
00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:33.639
<v Speaker 3>That's typically, you know, when I'm having a set of

867
00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:38.039
<v Speaker 3>by setup, I mean days on days in a row

868
00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:41.880
<v Speaker 3>of super intense dreams, especially ones that have like these

869
00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:49.719
<v Speaker 3>mission experiences, like with the portal stuff and with where

870
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:54.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm fighting things. I haven't had any of the like

871
00:56:54.360 --> 00:56:59.880
<v Speaker 3>graping and you know, the incubus suckupist experiences. I haven't

872
00:56:59.880 --> 00:57:04.119
<v Speaker 3>been and having those for a while, which is great,

873
00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:06.679
<v Speaker 3>to be honest, because I've seen what those things look like.

874
00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:12.119
<v Speaker 3>But I do I have these. Uh I guess I

875
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:14.639
<v Speaker 3>shouldn't say I don't have them anymore, because I do.

876
00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:17.760
<v Speaker 3>But I'm I'm I'm much more offensive in this situation,

877
00:57:18.119 --> 00:57:20.880
<v Speaker 3>and because I'm not coming I as soon as I know,

878
00:57:21.400 --> 00:57:23.119
<v Speaker 3>I already know for me that I'm gonna have a

879
00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:25.440
<v Speaker 3>lucid to the dream. It's going to be that way,

880
00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:29.840
<v Speaker 3>short or long. However, the duration of the dream is

881
00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:33.159
<v Speaker 3>not the point. The point that I made sure to

882
00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:39.559
<v Speaker 3>make is that I don't have fear. And now that

883
00:57:39.639 --> 00:57:44.880
<v Speaker 3>I've toned that, you know, there's uh. I always jo

884
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:48.079
<v Speaker 3>I joke that they're they're more like little snake oilmen,

885
00:57:48.280 --> 00:57:50.519
<v Speaker 3>you know, snake oil salesmen. They just want to try

886
00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:51.880
<v Speaker 3>to get me to make any kind of little deal,

887
00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:57.320
<v Speaker 3>whether they show up as U Donald Trump or or

888
00:57:57.480 --> 00:58:02.920
<v Speaker 3>like weird things like ladies thrown coins at All of

889
00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:07.800
<v Speaker 3>these things are symbolic, and I don't recommend jumping into

890
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:12.039
<v Speaker 3>dream interpretation books. Try to understand. Usually if you write

891
00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:15.920
<v Speaker 3>the dream down, just a little tip, write the dream down,

892
00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:19.679
<v Speaker 3>sometimes you'll get more out of writing it down than

893
00:58:19.719 --> 00:58:22.480
<v Speaker 3>you do trying to figure out why some color was

894
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:24.960
<v Speaker 3>in your dream, or why these ladies were throwing coins

895
00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:27.960
<v Speaker 3>at you, or you know, why Donald Trump really wanted

896
00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:30.480
<v Speaker 3>you to come watch his son get his haircut. That

897
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:33.280
<v Speaker 3>happened to me. I was well, and I was just like, yeah, whatever, okay,

898
00:58:33.320 --> 00:58:37.840
<v Speaker 3>go get your song's haircut. I'm not talking down or up,

899
00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:41.840
<v Speaker 3>but it was just the randomness. But having I think,

900
00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:47.400
<v Speaker 3>I think the try not to have fear because like

901
00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:52.559
<v Speaker 3>I do not I'm not a fan of the unbelievable

902
00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:56.400
<v Speaker 3>horror of h and not to be tmi, but in

903
00:58:56.440 --> 00:59:00.639
<v Speaker 3>real life I have had a I was great and

904
00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:09.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, nobody wants to repeat that. So if if

905
00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:11.880
<v Speaker 3>so far, I have a knowing through the Holy Spirit

906
00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:14.519
<v Speaker 3>that that as long as I know that the spirit

907
00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:17.000
<v Speaker 3>of fear comes from the enemy, it comes from the devil.

908
00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:19.760
<v Speaker 3>He is the author of confusion and fear and lies.

909
00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:24.039
<v Speaker 3>So any of that I don't even have to have

910
00:59:24.199 --> 00:59:26.519
<v Speaker 3>because like the Bible says, the Lord gives us the

911
00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:30.559
<v Speaker 3>spirit of peace and of a sound mind and seems

912
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:33.840
<v Speaker 3>only to prosper you. So when I lean in on

913
00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:39.920
<v Speaker 3>that and know that that that anxiety, uh, I don't.

914
00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:42.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't have to have that. And on top of it,

915
00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:43.800
<v Speaker 3>to be honest, I kind of enjoy the fact that

916
00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:46.519
<v Speaker 3>it pisses them off that I don't give them the fear.

917
00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:50.239
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's just like the stubborn of covern nature in myself,

918
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:56.599
<v Speaker 3>a resilient nature in myself from probably trauma, but uh,

919
00:59:56.679 --> 00:59:58.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, I don't like giving it to him. I

920
00:59:58.320 --> 01:00:00.280
<v Speaker 3>don't want to give that little creep you know, is

921
01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:02.840
<v Speaker 3>asturbation energy. I don't want to give it to them

922
01:00:03.039 --> 01:00:10.039
<v Speaker 3>like through that guy. And so I over answered that question.

923
01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:12.559
<v Speaker 3>I apologize.

924
01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask, So, you've been experiencing this

925
01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:22.440
<v Speaker 1>for a very long time, and you're obviously married, you

926
01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:28.119
<v Speaker 1>have children. MM, does this have any sort of impact

927
01:00:29.159 --> 01:00:36.199
<v Speaker 1>on that, like your family life or have you been

928
01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:40.000
<v Speaker 1>able to because I know, like sometimes when I talk

929
01:00:40.039 --> 01:00:44.960
<v Speaker 1>with people, and I've been guilty of this myself, not

930
01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:47.880
<v Speaker 1>everyone that doesn't experience it is able to understand what

931
01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:49.280
<v Speaker 1>the other person's going through.

932
01:00:50.280 --> 01:00:55.159
<v Speaker 3>Oh, yes, I know what you're what you're talking about.

933
01:00:55.760 --> 01:01:01.840
<v Speaker 3>With my kids, I have when older boys they're young

934
01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:08.599
<v Speaker 3>adults now and my youngest is almost eleven. But it

935
01:01:09.599 --> 01:01:13.199
<v Speaker 3>my it's been they've they've all experienced it. My youngest

936
01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:19.440
<v Speaker 3>it's it's a little more difficult because of conveying, because

937
01:01:19.480 --> 01:01:22.440
<v Speaker 3>of the being on the spectrum. It also makes him

938
01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:25.679
<v Speaker 3>slightly more of a target. From what my research has

939
01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:33.239
<v Speaker 3>shown that I've really looked into and and and the

940
01:01:33.280 --> 01:01:38.000
<v Speaker 3>whole shared dream thing. But the impact with my older

941
01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:42.599
<v Speaker 3>boys and you know, obviously with my youngest they don't

942
01:01:42.599 --> 01:01:47.119
<v Speaker 3>share the details of things. But I I use my

943
01:01:47.440 --> 01:01:51.039
<v Speaker 3>discernment and you know, mother's intuition to be able to

944
01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:56.800
<v Speaker 3>talk to him and understand, and and I pray over him.

945
01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:01.559
<v Speaker 3>I pray for all my children protection, you know, in

946
01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:05.599
<v Speaker 3>their sleep and their dreams and then they're waking. The

947
01:02:05.639 --> 01:02:08.960
<v Speaker 3>only hard part was, yes, it was very hard to

948
01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:13.679
<v Speaker 3>talk to my husband about it for some time. And uh,

949
01:02:14.679 --> 01:02:19.639
<v Speaker 3>you know, I think the only other person I had told, uh,

950
01:02:20.599 --> 01:02:23.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, in at least in the adult portions of

951
01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:26.400
<v Speaker 3>dream dreaming, my dad did tell me that he had

952
01:02:26.440 --> 01:02:30.840
<v Speaker 3>experienced that growing up, uh so, and and that that

953
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:32.960
<v Speaker 3>of course ties into the familial line things that I

954
01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:38.400
<v Speaker 3>was telling you about. But with with my husband, you know,

955
01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:40.320
<v Speaker 3>my brother was the only other person as far as

956
01:02:40.360 --> 01:02:42.840
<v Speaker 3>the adult stuff. And then the first but the first

957
01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:46.760
<v Speaker 3>time my my now husband had experienced it was that

958
01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:51.960
<v Speaker 3>I call it the Mark Wallbart nightmare. Was that and

959
01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:55.960
<v Speaker 3>you know he so he physically and and uh you know,

960
01:02:56.000 --> 01:02:58.800
<v Speaker 3>a couple of times as a teenager my parents had

961
01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:01.320
<v Speaker 3>come in and like had to wake me up. Some

962
01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:05.400
<v Speaker 3>of those dreams have been blocked out for I'm not

963
01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:08.239
<v Speaker 3>quite sure why but but you know, they would wake

964
01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:11.039
<v Speaker 3>me up because I would be making noises or one

965
01:03:11.079 --> 01:03:14.199
<v Speaker 3>time I believe I was crying, you know, kind of

966
01:03:14.239 --> 01:03:17.320
<v Speaker 3>like make crying already but still asleep, and then woke

967
01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:20.519
<v Speaker 3>up and was crying. But when that first one happened,

968
01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:25.320
<v Speaker 3>I remember telling my husband, you know, the first one

969
01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:27.159
<v Speaker 3>with him, when that happened, I remember telling him like

970
01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:29.800
<v Speaker 3>what I saw. And you know, his first response is

971
01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:32.079
<v Speaker 3>very common, which is just it's okay, it's just a dream.

972
01:03:32.119 --> 01:03:34.119
<v Speaker 3>And you know, he was trying to comfort me, and

973
01:03:34.480 --> 01:03:37.079
<v Speaker 3>but I didn't have the language, and yes I was.

974
01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:39.639
<v Speaker 3>I was afraid to say, hey, guess what, you're about

975
01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:42.239
<v Speaker 3>to marry a lady who this happens to all the time,

976
01:03:43.239 --> 01:03:46.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, because of the tent, because because yes, there

977
01:03:46.079 --> 01:03:49.800
<v Speaker 3>are there for the most part people, I think it

978
01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:51.960
<v Speaker 3>people will experience this much more than they're willing to

979
01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:54.719
<v Speaker 3>admit because they don't want to be labeled as crazy

980
01:03:55.000 --> 01:03:57.400
<v Speaker 3>or oh you're making a whole lot bad and nothing,

981
01:03:57.519 --> 01:03:59.199
<v Speaker 3>or it's just a bad dream. You know, there's a

982
01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:02.880
<v Speaker 3>lot of these. He's labeled, dis labeled it, I mean,

983
01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:06.000
<v Speaker 3>you get labeled, you get you get pigeonholed, you get

984
01:04:07.519 --> 01:04:10.639
<v Speaker 3>uh you're making some big thing out of nothing, but uh,

985
01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:16.840
<v Speaker 3>it is something. I mean. The the thing that that

986
01:04:17.159 --> 01:04:23.400
<v Speaker 3>my my uh husband realized was was the reaction of

987
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:26.559
<v Speaker 3>like especially that one where you know that Mark Warble

988
01:04:26.599 --> 01:04:29.719
<v Speaker 3>Wilburg won and then the one where I had pulled

989
01:04:29.719 --> 01:04:31.760
<v Speaker 3>all the stuff out of me and he just saw

990
01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:36.559
<v Speaker 3>my face like his exact words was like, oh my gosh,

991
01:04:36.599 --> 01:04:39.440
<v Speaker 3>like are you okay? Like you look like you're in shock,

992
01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:42.679
<v Speaker 3>and and I was like, I ended up sitting in

993
01:04:42.719 --> 01:04:48.320
<v Speaker 3>the chair like not moving quiet. And that was the

994
01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:55.480
<v Speaker 3>first time that my husband really, I bless his heart,

995
01:04:55.480 --> 01:04:59.440
<v Speaker 3>but I really felt that it registered that like something

996
01:04:59.480 --> 01:05:02.440
<v Speaker 3>happens that when that happens to me, you know, even

997
01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:04.760
<v Speaker 3>though he remembered the He's remembered there's been times where

998
01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:06.119
<v Speaker 3>I'd made noises and he had to wake me up,

999
01:05:06.199 --> 01:05:09.400
<v Speaker 3>or I'd like whimpering and and and and whatnot, or

1000
01:05:09.440 --> 01:05:12.679
<v Speaker 3>crying like in that other one. And but he said

1001
01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:14.679
<v Speaker 3>that that was the first time, and that was you know,

1002
01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:18.400
<v Speaker 3>a couple of about a little over a year ago,

1003
01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:23.519
<v Speaker 3>almost two years ago that he really grasped the fact

1004
01:05:23.559 --> 01:05:26.760
<v Speaker 3>that nobody reacts like that if they don't see something,

1005
01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:29.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, kind of like was his name. Heinek, the

1006
01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:32.079
<v Speaker 3>guy who went out and interviewed people who had had

1007
01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:36.719
<v Speaker 3>abduct the productions and UFO sightings. You know there it

1008
01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:42.360
<v Speaker 3>was there, their testimony, their delivery of it. That was

1009
01:05:42.719 --> 01:05:44.159
<v Speaker 3>he was able to and he was able to weed

1010
01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:46.000
<v Speaker 3>out the ones that seemed like they were just trying

1011
01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:48.039
<v Speaker 3>to hop on and hop along the wagon, you know,

1012
01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:50.199
<v Speaker 3>like get along and and be a part of something

1013
01:05:50.280 --> 01:05:52.159
<v Speaker 3>or be special and they were lying. You know, he

1014
01:05:52.199 --> 01:05:54.599
<v Speaker 3>could you could tell the difference between when someone is

1015
01:05:54.639 --> 01:05:58.800
<v Speaker 3>telling you a terrifying you know, uh an experience that

1016
01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:02.280
<v Speaker 3>they uh and and when they're not. And that was

1017
01:06:02.320 --> 01:06:04.159
<v Speaker 3>the first time that my husband was really like, Okay,

1018
01:06:04.199 --> 01:06:10.360
<v Speaker 3>something is something is happening and you know, and I

1019
01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:15.800
<v Speaker 3>uh it it's hard and I know it's it's it's

1020
01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:18.119
<v Speaker 3>it's hard enough to go through it, but it is

1021
01:06:18.119 --> 01:06:21.920
<v Speaker 3>hard to be someone who isn't an experiencer or having

1022
01:06:21.960 --> 01:06:27.320
<v Speaker 3>any of this kind of stuff two to be even

1023
01:06:27.480 --> 01:06:32.480
<v Speaker 3>even sympathetic. I mean, you can see the fear, but

1024
01:06:32.800 --> 01:06:35.519
<v Speaker 3>uh yeah, that was the first time that he really

1025
01:06:35.880 --> 01:06:38.639
<v Speaker 3>was like whoa you know, you know, because I was

1026
01:06:38.679 --> 01:06:42.639
<v Speaker 3>I was now here, I am I'm sober for you know,

1027
01:06:42.920 --> 01:06:47.159
<v Speaker 3>over three years and you know, I'm not into the

1028
01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:51.639
<v Speaker 3>Witchcroft stuff anymore, and so I'm I'm essentially of more

1029
01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:57.639
<v Speaker 3>sound mind than before. And to see his his reaction

1030
01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:01.840
<v Speaker 3>of my reaction in its own way. I hate to

1031
01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:04.719
<v Speaker 3>say this sounds maybe it sounds sad, but it was

1032
01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:06.800
<v Speaker 3>very It was It was like the first time feeling

1033
01:07:06.800 --> 01:07:09.199
<v Speaker 3>a little validated about it. Not that I was never comforted,

1034
01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:12.400
<v Speaker 3>and he knows this. He knows this, Not that I

1035
01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:15.559
<v Speaker 3>was never comforted, but yeah, I know what it's like

1036
01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:18.880
<v Speaker 3>to have someone who who just doesn't know because they

1037
01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:22.400
<v Speaker 3>just don't know, not understand and be really close to you.

1038
01:07:22.519 --> 01:07:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Now he's he's much more supportive about it, you know,

1039
01:07:26.519 --> 01:07:30.559
<v Speaker 3>he knows. Uh. Okay, occasionally I'll I'll tell him, you know,

1040
01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:35.880
<v Speaker 3>like a a really a mission dream or I remember

1041
01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:40.880
<v Speaker 3>him being super tripped out about the planes, remembering the

1042
01:07:40.920 --> 01:07:43.239
<v Speaker 3>plane dream and then and and also the one that

1043
01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:46.519
<v Speaker 3>had the the giant balls in the sky with these

1044
01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:49.760
<v Speaker 3>things that look like giant mosquitos, which was very strange

1045
01:07:49.760 --> 01:07:52.519
<v Speaker 3>because it was very eerie to the orbs and the

1046
01:07:52.719 --> 01:07:56.960
<v Speaker 3>Jersey Throne stuff. I turned out I'm not the only

1047
01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:00.480
<v Speaker 3>other person that has has had had those little kind

1048
01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:06.440
<v Speaker 3>of foresights or whatever. But you know, he occasionally he'll

1049
01:08:06.440 --> 01:08:08.760
<v Speaker 3>get blown away with some of those kind of pseudo

1050
01:08:08.840 --> 01:08:18.600
<v Speaker 3>premonition ones and and uh yeah.

1051
01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:19.159
<v Speaker 1>I think for a lot of people, it's the struggle

1052
01:08:19.239 --> 01:08:25.239
<v Speaker 1>of accepting the I don't want to say unbelievable, but

1053
01:08:25.239 --> 01:08:29.560
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of what it sounds like to some people. Is, Yeah,

1054
01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:31.560
<v Speaker 1>when you hear these types of stories and you hear

1055
01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:34.760
<v Speaker 1>these types of events that happen with people, it's hard

1056
01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:38.439
<v Speaker 1>for others to understand it because they've never experienced it,

1057
01:08:38.439 --> 01:08:42.079
<v Speaker 1>and without experiencing anything like that, I don't think they're

1058
01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:46.439
<v Speaker 1>capable of really comprehending that sort of reality.

1059
01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:50.640
<v Speaker 3>And I think that and that's and that is totally understandable,

1060
01:08:51.239 --> 01:08:54.960
<v Speaker 3>you know. And I I know about that hurdle personally,

1061
01:08:55.520 --> 01:08:58.479
<v Speaker 3>and I know that I'm not alone with that hurdle,

1062
01:08:59.039 --> 01:09:03.199
<v Speaker 3>and but ultimately I just take that and I have

1063
01:09:03.279 --> 01:09:05.800
<v Speaker 3>grace with it, right Like, I understand that there's going

1064
01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:09.720
<v Speaker 3>to be people that aren't going to understand. And this

1065
01:09:09.760 --> 01:09:11.880
<v Speaker 3>isn't something I just go up to random people and

1066
01:09:11.920 --> 01:09:15.000
<v Speaker 3>talk about. You know, I don't hide it, but I don't,

1067
01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:19.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, I pick and choose the scenarios in which

1068
01:09:19.239 --> 01:09:26.000
<v Speaker 3>which I'm going to divulge information, but ultimately I just

1069
01:09:26.039 --> 01:09:29.039
<v Speaker 3>have grace for that because I understand, you know, just

1070
01:09:29.079 --> 01:09:32.520
<v Speaker 3>like I wouldn't understand. I don't understand what it's like

1071
01:09:32.560 --> 01:09:37.720
<v Speaker 3>to not dream like this, right, I don't understand. I've

1072
01:09:37.720 --> 01:09:43.880
<v Speaker 3>never experienced that, so and you know, I don't consider

1073
01:09:43.880 --> 01:09:48.760
<v Speaker 3>myself like some some special person or or some freaking nature,

1074
01:09:48.800 --> 01:09:52.359
<v Speaker 3>which was what I thought I was previously. But I

1075
01:09:52.359 --> 01:09:55.560
<v Speaker 3>think ultimately for those who don't I haven't experienced it.

1076
01:09:55.760 --> 01:09:58.840
<v Speaker 3>I think I think it's kind of a worldwide thing.

1077
01:09:59.640 --> 01:10:02.000
<v Speaker 3>No matter the topic, we need to just have grace

1078
01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:04.319
<v Speaker 3>for each other. We need to have grace and understand

1079
01:10:04.319 --> 01:10:08.279
<v Speaker 3>we may be on opposing sides of whatever it is,

1080
01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:10.479
<v Speaker 3>and we need to have If we had grace for

1081
01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:13.359
<v Speaker 3>each other, we would have kindness, you know, we'd have

1082
01:10:13.720 --> 01:10:16.479
<v Speaker 3>We'd have much more kindness than niceties, because I think

1083
01:10:16.560 --> 01:10:21.680
<v Speaker 3>kindness is much more mindful. It's kind of like the

1084
01:10:21.720 --> 01:10:25.800
<v Speaker 3>difference between happy and joy, where happy is the dopamine

1085
01:10:26.079 --> 01:10:30.640
<v Speaker 3>feeling and joy is where you build oxytocin, and grace

1086
01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:34.479
<v Speaker 3>is kind of the beautiful intercessor for all of those things.

1087
01:10:35.039 --> 01:10:37.680
<v Speaker 3>And if we're able to have grace, that allows us

1088
01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:42.960
<v Speaker 3>to meet people where they're at understand that we perhaps

1089
01:10:43.039 --> 01:10:46.880
<v Speaker 3>don't you know, we don't, you're not, we're not experiencing

1090
01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:50.640
<v Speaker 3>the same thing, but it doesn't Just because we're not

1091
01:10:50.720 --> 01:10:53.760
<v Speaker 3>experiencing the same thing doesn't mean that it's not happening.

1092
01:10:54.920 --> 01:11:01.239
<v Speaker 3>And very much I bring up the even paranormal itself,

1093
01:11:01.319 --> 01:11:03.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, which could be everything from ghosts to cryptids,

1094
01:11:03.359 --> 01:11:09.119
<v Speaker 3>to my experiences to UFO experiences, all of these things.

1095
01:11:09.960 --> 01:11:12.560
<v Speaker 3>For a lot of people who've never experienced stuff, they

1096
01:11:13.159 --> 01:11:14.880
<v Speaker 3>want to see the proof, you know, because they're not

1097
01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:20.079
<v Speaker 3>they haven't experienced it. And it's hard because a lot

1098
01:11:20.119 --> 01:11:23.720
<v Speaker 3>of these things are very spiritual and they're very consciously

1099
01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:30.520
<v Speaker 3>aware of you being conscious of them. You know, I haven't.

1100
01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:32.079
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how much time you have, but you know,

1101
01:11:32.119 --> 01:11:34.199
<v Speaker 3>I've had my own experiences where as soon as I'm

1102
01:11:34.199 --> 01:11:36.279
<v Speaker 3>about to take and only one time was it even

1103
01:11:36.319 --> 01:11:38.439
<v Speaker 3>witnessed with me. As soon as I'm about to take

1104
01:11:38.439 --> 01:11:40.159
<v Speaker 3>a picture of this weird egg thing that's up in

1105
01:11:40.199 --> 01:11:43.439
<v Speaker 3>the sky. This was in twenty twenty two, while we're

1106
01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:45.199
<v Speaker 3>driving on the freeway, my mother in law and I.

1107
01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:48.199
<v Speaker 3>As soon as I'm thinking in my mind, my hand

1108
01:11:48.239 --> 01:11:49.840
<v Speaker 3>is in the front pocket of my hoodie to pull

1109
01:11:49.880 --> 01:11:52.399
<v Speaker 3>up my phone to take a picture. It's gone and

1110
01:11:52.439 --> 01:11:56.000
<v Speaker 3>it's I mean, it was flying like above us and

1111
01:11:56.079 --> 01:11:58.199
<v Speaker 3>I saw. I ended up seeing that two more times.

1112
01:11:58.520 --> 01:12:01.039
<v Speaker 3>Oddly enough. It was out where I was doing my

1113
01:12:01.039 --> 01:12:06.199
<v Speaker 3>outpatient recovery. Whatever it was was trying to come check

1114
01:12:06.239 --> 01:12:09.520
<v Speaker 3>me out, and I was only able to capture one

1115
01:12:09.560 --> 01:12:12.960
<v Speaker 3>photograph of it. Uh, the video thing didn't turn out.

1116
01:12:13.039 --> 01:12:15.520
<v Speaker 3>You couldn't tell what it was. But it wasn't a drone.

1117
01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:18.239
<v Speaker 3>It was a weird egg thing. And you know, my

1118
01:12:18.319 --> 01:12:21.560
<v Speaker 3>husband and my mother in law are corroborators of that,

1119
01:12:21.760 --> 01:12:25.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, And and like I said, that's a similar thing.

1120
01:12:25.319 --> 01:12:26.880
<v Speaker 3>All they can do is corroborate and say that they

1121
01:12:26.880 --> 01:12:30.000
<v Speaker 3>were there. But I'm always drawn back to for those

1122
01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:32.920
<v Speaker 3>who don't have experienced and they're having a hard time

1123
01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:35.399
<v Speaker 3>swallowing whatever the pill it is that they're faced with,

1124
01:12:36.600 --> 01:12:40.560
<v Speaker 3>just whether you believe in UFOs or not, go and

1125
01:12:40.680 --> 01:12:44.479
<v Speaker 3>research doctor Heinech, Go research him. The only reason why

1126
01:12:44.520 --> 01:12:46.119
<v Speaker 3>I say that is because here was a guy who

1127
01:12:46.159 --> 01:12:48.520
<v Speaker 3>was not a believer and this is yes, this UFO,

1128
01:12:49.279 --> 01:12:52.239
<v Speaker 3>but he was not a believer, but he was a

1129
01:12:52.239 --> 01:12:57.520
<v Speaker 3>man of science, so he was ready to test the data, right,

1130
01:12:57.880 --> 01:13:00.239
<v Speaker 3>and the data and this in this scenario was to

1131
01:13:00.319 --> 01:13:07.680
<v Speaker 3>go and talk to these witnesses and experiencers and his

1132
01:13:08.319 --> 01:13:14.000
<v Speaker 3>completely scientific, very black and you know, black and white.

1133
01:13:14.239 --> 01:13:19.880
<v Speaker 3>That approach was able to kind of give give a

1134
01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:25.199
<v Speaker 3>lot of weight and and proof to experiencers who didn't

1135
01:13:25.199 --> 01:13:30.000
<v Speaker 3>have the quote photograph or couldn't you know, I mean, shoot,

1136
01:13:30.039 --> 01:13:33.399
<v Speaker 3>if you could. I'm sure someone somewhere uh has the

1137
01:13:33.439 --> 01:13:37.560
<v Speaker 3>technology to to pull out the dreams and let you

1138
01:13:37.600 --> 01:13:40.359
<v Speaker 3>guys watch what I'm saying. You know, experience what I'm experiencing.

1139
01:13:40.439 --> 01:13:44.319
<v Speaker 3>Somewhere who knows, but you know, he was able to

1140
01:13:44.359 --> 01:13:48.199
<v Speaker 3>come out and and really give a voice to people

1141
01:13:48.720 --> 01:13:53.479
<v Speaker 3>who were telling they were telling what they saw, they

1142
01:13:53.479 --> 01:13:58.399
<v Speaker 3>were telling what they experienced. And so if it, like

1143
01:13:58.399 --> 01:14:01.279
<v Speaker 3>I said, if anything, you know, I absolutely understand. But

1144
01:14:01.319 --> 01:14:03.159
<v Speaker 3>if we if we can at least just have grace

1145
01:14:03.199 --> 01:14:07.000
<v Speaker 3>with each other and in in all walks of life,

1146
01:14:07.560 --> 01:14:14.279
<v Speaker 3>we we might get closer to the ability to even

1147
01:14:14.319 --> 01:14:19.600
<v Speaker 3>be you know, apathetic, sympathetic or even just uh say, okay,

1148
01:14:19.680 --> 01:14:22.760
<v Speaker 3>you know that that happened to that person. But Heinich

1149
01:14:22.760 --> 01:14:24.720
<v Speaker 3>would be I don't know, I'm feeling guided to talk

1150
01:14:24.760 --> 01:14:26.399
<v Speaker 3>about that, like I think he would be a great

1151
01:14:26.439 --> 01:14:30.319
<v Speaker 3>person to go uh and just research just you know,

1152
01:14:30.439 --> 01:14:32.760
<v Speaker 3>topic aside. It's not the same topic I'm talking about,

1153
01:14:33.119 --> 01:14:37.960
<v Speaker 3>but you know, he was able to to to get

1154
01:14:37.960 --> 01:14:43.119
<v Speaker 3>a good feel of these some happen to these people,

1155
01:14:43.479 --> 01:14:46.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, whatever their stories were, they're the ones that

1156
01:14:46.399 --> 01:14:52.359
<v Speaker 3>he quote unquote believed. He went at it in as

1157
01:14:52.359 --> 01:14:56.760
<v Speaker 3>a man of science, and he his conclusion was that

1158
01:14:57.800 --> 01:15:00.359
<v Speaker 3>something happened to this person. This is what they saw.

1159
01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:05.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I hope that answered your question.

1160
01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:10.279
<v Speaker 1>We're all good. Is there anything else you would like

1161
01:15:10.319 --> 01:15:12.479
<v Speaker 1>to discuss before we wrap this up. We've been going

1162
01:15:12.520 --> 01:15:14.000
<v Speaker 1>on for a little over an hour.

1163
01:15:13.840 --> 01:15:22.399
<v Speaker 3>Now, Oh well, I just I think that's about I mean,

1164
01:15:23.840 --> 01:15:26.800
<v Speaker 3>I know that this is a topic that like we

1165
01:15:26.800 --> 01:15:30.239
<v Speaker 3>we've kind of gone over it. But if there's anybody

1166
01:15:30.239 --> 01:15:32.079
<v Speaker 3>out there that's going through it, or you know, someone

1167
01:15:32.119 --> 01:15:36.119
<v Speaker 3>that's going through there, as expressed that they have and

1168
01:15:36.119 --> 01:15:40.760
<v Speaker 3>and there was as outlandish and wild as it sounds,

1169
01:15:41.359 --> 01:15:45.239
<v Speaker 3>and as we've been kind of I don't know if

1170
01:15:45.239 --> 01:15:48.920
<v Speaker 3>it's programmed, but you know, naturally we don't experience it,

1171
01:15:49.039 --> 01:15:51.479
<v Speaker 3>we don't we don't see it where we are less

1172
01:15:51.520 --> 01:15:57.199
<v Speaker 3>likely to believe it at least just to try to

1173
01:15:57.199 --> 01:16:02.239
<v Speaker 3>have grace because if you're a parent, or or or

1174
01:16:02.359 --> 01:16:06.159
<v Speaker 3>you you've ever seen a little child be terrified of

1175
01:16:06.199 --> 01:16:12.119
<v Speaker 3>a nightmare, the word the worst thing you could do

1176
01:16:12.520 --> 01:16:15.520
<v Speaker 3>is you know, and God forbid this ever happens. But

1177
01:16:16.279 --> 01:16:18.600
<v Speaker 3>is you know, tell the kid to shut up, and

1178
01:16:18.800 --> 01:16:20.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, don't don't you know, shut up and go

1179
01:16:20.760 --> 01:16:23.439
<v Speaker 3>to bed, you know, if they're terrified. And but the

1180
01:16:23.479 --> 01:16:27.800
<v Speaker 3>first inkling in most people is naturally to console to

1181
01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:32.319
<v Speaker 3>be their emotionally supportive right of of the child. Who's

1182
01:16:32.399 --> 01:16:38.079
<v Speaker 3>who's terrified. And this happened this I guess news splash.

1183
01:16:38.239 --> 01:16:42.279
<v Speaker 3>This happens to adults. And not everybody's comfortable with affection,

1184
01:16:42.399 --> 01:16:47.319
<v Speaker 3>and not everybody wants to be coddled or or whatever.

1185
01:16:47.720 --> 01:16:50.199
<v Speaker 3>Not what I'm saying, But but have have some compassion,

1186
01:16:50.279 --> 01:16:55.920
<v Speaker 3>have a little bit of grace, because I don't know

1187
01:16:55.960 --> 01:16:58.279
<v Speaker 3>for me, you know, when I, like I said, I

1188
01:16:58.279 --> 01:17:00.479
<v Speaker 3>didn't even want to tell my I was scared to

1189
01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:03.439
<v Speaker 3>help my husband like this stuff happens to me because

1190
01:17:04.039 --> 01:17:06.800
<v Speaker 3>I was just going to be that that weirdo, you know.

1191
01:17:07.119 --> 01:17:09.399
<v Speaker 3>And by the grace of God, it opened up and

1192
01:17:09.720 --> 01:17:16.359
<v Speaker 3>he was able to to really you know, see that

1193
01:17:16.720 --> 01:17:18.960
<v Speaker 3>and he was a you know very much a non

1194
01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:21.479
<v Speaker 3>believer very much, you know, prove it to me, even

1195
01:17:21.520 --> 01:17:23.479
<v Speaker 3>with all the stuff that's happening in the world today,

1196
01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:30.239
<v Speaker 3>but have grace for for each other. And and honestly,

1197
01:17:32.079 --> 01:17:34.800
<v Speaker 3>how how how are we able to prove that we're

1198
01:17:34.840 --> 01:17:37.319
<v Speaker 3>having this happen in the dream world? Like I said,

1199
01:17:37.319 --> 01:17:39.800
<v Speaker 3>we can't play that dream out for you, But for

1200
01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:43.640
<v Speaker 3>anyone who is experiencing it, I do advise to the

1201
01:17:43.680 --> 01:17:46.239
<v Speaker 3>best of your ability. Maybe maybe you're not big into

1202
01:17:46.239 --> 01:17:49.520
<v Speaker 3>writing on a journal, I do recommend that because science

1203
01:17:49.560 --> 01:17:53.399
<v Speaker 3>has proven that that it's not only cathartic therapeutic, but

1204
01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:58.039
<v Speaker 3>writing it down the pen to paper is very good

1205
01:17:58.079 --> 01:18:00.600
<v Speaker 3>for even because for me, I mean a lot of

1206
01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:03.359
<v Speaker 3>the stuff was really traumatizing, and so for trauma and

1207
01:18:03.399 --> 01:18:06.199
<v Speaker 3>for any healing therapy, the will recommend you know, journaling,

1208
01:18:06.520 --> 01:18:08.399
<v Speaker 3>so you know, write it down if you can. If

1209
01:18:08.399 --> 01:18:10.560
<v Speaker 3>you can't, maybe it's maybe you will. It's the middle

1210
01:18:10.600 --> 01:18:12.279
<v Speaker 3>of the night that you don't want to forget the dream.

1211
01:18:12.720 --> 01:18:15.119
<v Speaker 3>Most people have one of those voice recording apps on

1212
01:18:15.159 --> 01:18:20.159
<v Speaker 3>their phone. Just do it real quickly, you know. I

1213
01:18:20.239 --> 01:18:22.920
<v Speaker 3>do that, and and that's been helpful. And then later

1214
01:18:23.000 --> 01:18:26.279
<v Speaker 3>I I'll go and write it in my journal, but

1215
01:18:26.720 --> 01:18:31.479
<v Speaker 3>I do advise checking out Vickie Joey Anderston. She's a

1216
01:18:31.560 --> 01:18:35.359
<v Speaker 3>dear friend of mine. You're experiencing the stuff. She is

1217
01:18:35.399 --> 01:18:41.279
<v Speaker 3>a lifetime experiencer, and she is also a follower of Jesus.

1218
01:18:42.039 --> 01:18:44.560
<v Speaker 3>I know a lot of people will you know, maybe

1219
01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:47.359
<v Speaker 3>they'll get don't get deterred by that, because I promise

1220
01:18:47.399 --> 01:18:52.399
<v Speaker 3>you there's a lot of wisdom involved that comes along

1221
01:18:52.399 --> 01:18:55.960
<v Speaker 3>with this. And uh, with the knowledge that that I

1222
01:18:55.960 --> 01:19:01.279
<v Speaker 3>got from her, and people are are uh, You're welcome

1223
01:19:01.319 --> 01:19:03.119
<v Speaker 3>to come and d M me over on X. It's

1224
01:19:03.199 --> 01:19:06.680
<v Speaker 3>Ms McGillicutty over on X. If anyone has any questions

1225
01:19:08.439 --> 01:19:12.720
<v Speaker 3>and uh, maybe has any questions or further wants maybe

1226
01:19:12.720 --> 01:19:17.079
<v Speaker 3>some information on stuff that I had talked about, Uh,

1227
01:19:17.239 --> 01:19:20.880
<v Speaker 3>maybe point them in the right direction or I'm not

1228
01:19:21.319 --> 01:19:25.159
<v Speaker 3>like some sort of agreem interpreter, but you know, I

1229
01:19:25.199 --> 01:19:28.560
<v Speaker 3>do feel I do guided to help people that are

1230
01:19:28.720 --> 01:19:32.800
<v Speaker 3>going through this, and especially as a as a parent,

1231
01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:35.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, and knowing that I know, uh, you know,

1232
01:19:35.199 --> 01:19:37.279
<v Speaker 3>we're we're coming up on all this the C five

1233
01:19:37.319 --> 01:19:42.560
<v Speaker 3>psionic stuff. People are they don't know that. Maybe they're

1234
01:19:42.600 --> 01:19:44.720
<v Speaker 3>they're okay with doing it. But if they have children,

1235
01:19:44.800 --> 01:19:48.520
<v Speaker 3>they these things will spiritually hitchhike back. And I'm not

1236
01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:52.479
<v Speaker 3>just talking about aliens, and I'm talking about entities like like, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about spirits, entities, the stuff that comes through

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<v Speaker 3>the unseen realm Michael as Seiser promised his work will

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<v Speaker 3>it's amazing. But yeah, I just I just want people

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01:20:06.720 --> 01:20:10.000
<v Speaker 3>to know that it's I know, it maybe sounds awful

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01:20:10.039 --> 01:20:11.880
<v Speaker 3>that I say that. It still happens to me, but

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<v Speaker 3>there is a way to get into this offensively. There's

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<v Speaker 3>a way to fight back. And I don't just mean

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<v Speaker 3>like the mission dreams where battle people and make button

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01:20:22.960 --> 01:20:27.079
<v Speaker 3>stuff and I sometimes I have bruises when I wake

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01:20:27.159 --> 01:20:31.399
<v Speaker 3>up from those ones. That's wild too. I always, uh,

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01:20:32.239 --> 01:20:34.479
<v Speaker 3>I joke about it now because I can with my husband,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, uh, gosh, I got off topic. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>But if anything, I just want people to know there's

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01:20:42.840 --> 01:20:48.479
<v Speaker 3>ways to if you're experiencing it, I promise you that

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01:20:48.560 --> 01:20:51.199
<v Speaker 3>there are way if you reach out to me or

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01:20:51.279 --> 01:20:55.439
<v Speaker 3>Vikajoy Anderson, there's ways to get some kind of relief

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<v Speaker 3>and understanding of what's going on. And if you're someone

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01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:01.880
<v Speaker 3>who has an ex experienced it, you know someone has

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, just have a little bit of grace

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<v Speaker 3>for each other and and even for experiences. Have grace

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<v Speaker 3>with the people who don't understand, who don't have them,

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01:21:11.960 --> 01:21:16.760
<v Speaker 3>aren't going through it, you know, because I think everything

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<v Speaker 3>in the woo woo paranormal realm, you know a lot

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01:21:22.560 --> 01:21:25.920
<v Speaker 3>of people are seeking these experiences, and when you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have the experience, it can't it can't be extremely hard

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<v Speaker 3>to believe, you know. But but understand, uh, the weird

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01:21:36.119 --> 01:21:42.760
<v Speaker 3>is out there, the it's there there. That's why this

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<v Speaker 3>podcast is here, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely appreciate you coming on here tonight and sharing

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<v Speaker 1>all that with us, and I hope everyone out there

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01:21:50.039 --> 01:21:54.319
<v Speaker 1>listening takes away from what it is you're sharing and

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<v Speaker 1>actually thinks about it, because I know a lot of

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01:21:56.840 --> 01:22:02.279
<v Speaker 1>people that listen, and this is where I struggle. I

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01:22:02.319 --> 01:22:04.119
<v Speaker 1>do the show because I want to give people a

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01:22:04.239 --> 01:22:08.279
<v Speaker 1>chance to speak and share it is what they experience,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to accept that sometimes the show is

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<v Speaker 1>more entertainment for other people. And that's not why I

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01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:18.279
<v Speaker 1>made the show, But for the last three years I've

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01:22:18.279 --> 01:22:19.800
<v Speaker 1>had to accept that. You know what I am in

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01:22:19.840 --> 01:22:22.680
<v Speaker 1>the entertainment business. I'm giving something to people to listen

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01:22:22.720 --> 01:22:26.560
<v Speaker 1>to and it keeps them entertained. So that's a hard

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01:22:26.600 --> 01:22:29.880
<v Speaker 1>pill that I've had to accept. But I hope anyone

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01:22:29.920 --> 01:22:35.439
<v Speaker 1>listening understands, like where we find it entertaining, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily entertainment for other people to.

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<v Speaker 3>Go through it. Yeah, I hear you. I thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for that. And and it's I get it right like I.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, shoot, I kept quiet about it for a

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01:22:50.159 --> 01:22:53.680
<v Speaker 3>long time because I didn't I figured I would be

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01:22:53.880 --> 01:23:01.920
<v Speaker 3>the freak show, right yeah, And you know what, like I,

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<v Speaker 3>by the grace of God, I I don't let that.

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01:23:04.920 --> 01:23:06.960
<v Speaker 3>I just I have an understanding that that that the

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01:23:07.119 --> 01:23:09.399
<v Speaker 3>entertainment quality will be there, and that there are gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be plenty of people who are like this lady's full

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01:23:12.079 --> 01:23:15.800
<v Speaker 3>of she's full of money, like I got it, and

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01:23:15.800 --> 01:23:17.760
<v Speaker 3>and I just like that's why I mentioned trying to

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01:23:17.800 --> 01:23:22.560
<v Speaker 3>have grace, like for if anything, it's not just about

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01:23:22.560 --> 01:23:25.720
<v Speaker 3>having a thick skin, like I look at I I

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01:23:25.800 --> 01:23:28.359
<v Speaker 3>just really try to approach it as as having grace

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01:23:28.560 --> 01:23:31.159
<v Speaker 3>and and I and I say, I shouldn't discount the

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01:23:31.199 --> 01:23:33.039
<v Speaker 3>fact that I have some thick skin from this because

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01:23:33.479 --> 01:23:36.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, I've gotten into some a number of like

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01:23:37.279 --> 01:23:41.159
<v Speaker 3>stuff we're on on x bass of people who who

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01:23:41.520 --> 01:23:44.960
<v Speaker 3>really just want me to be full of grab and

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01:23:44.960 --> 01:23:49.000
<v Speaker 3>and you know, I can consider myself a well spoken person,

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01:23:49.439 --> 01:23:51.680
<v Speaker 3>and I can't say that it doesn't hurt, but I'm

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01:23:51.720 --> 01:23:54.720
<v Speaker 3>able to, you know, if someone if people are gonna

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01:23:54.760 --> 01:23:57.439
<v Speaker 3>want to listen and and and they're they're gonna want

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01:23:57.439 --> 01:24:00.479
<v Speaker 3>to understand, and they they're going, they're gonna, they're gonna

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01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:04.279
<v Speaker 3>they're gonna try to understand if they don't and they

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01:24:04.319 --> 01:24:06.399
<v Speaker 3>just want to be you know, maybe they're even the

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01:24:06.439 --> 01:24:09.720
<v Speaker 3>worst spectrum. They don't want to understand, they don't care,

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01:24:09.960 --> 01:24:13.640
<v Speaker 3>they think everybody's lying and and blah blah blah blah blah.

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01:24:13.680 --> 01:24:16.399
<v Speaker 3>And maybe they're even bitter because it hasn't happened to them.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I've random some people who are like mad

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01:24:19.000 --> 01:24:22.039
<v Speaker 3>that they haven't been abjected by alien or I've never

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<v Speaker 3>had to sucky this dream. And it's like, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know why you would. I wouldn't wish either of those

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01:24:27.840 --> 01:24:34.359
<v Speaker 3>things on somebody, But yeah, I mean, I absolutely I

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<v Speaker 3>respect and thank you so much for for having allowing this.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they have people to come on and tell

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<v Speaker 3>their stories.

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<v Speaker 4>And.

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<v Speaker 3>You know it whether people view it for entertainment or not.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care. You know, if it if it gets

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<v Speaker 3>out there, like I said earlier on, it gets out

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01:24:55.680 --> 01:24:57.600
<v Speaker 3>there even to one person, and it helps them, and

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<v Speaker 3>I never meet them, you know, it helps them, it

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01:25:00.239 --> 01:25:03.840
<v Speaker 3>helps their kid, it helps something, it helps them look

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01:25:03.920 --> 01:25:10.199
<v Speaker 3>into something. I'm cool with that, you know, because I

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01:25:10.239 --> 01:25:12.319
<v Speaker 3>know I'm not the only person this is happening too,

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01:25:12.960 --> 01:25:16.560
<v Speaker 3>and a lot of people don't have the language for

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01:25:16.720 --> 01:25:24.000
<v Speaker 3>it because it either is two woo woo too unheard

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01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:29.359
<v Speaker 3>of or in some cases, like you know, they they

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01:25:29.520 --> 01:25:31.640
<v Speaker 3>they won't like the fact that the truth is that

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01:25:31.880 --> 01:25:34.720
<v Speaker 3>it's very spiritual. You know, they don't maybe they don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to touch that. Maybe they're either super secular or

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01:25:37.359 --> 01:25:41.079
<v Speaker 3>whatever the case is. They're they're uncomfortable. But the truth is,

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<v Speaker 3>if you if you were if you're sick, you know,

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01:25:43.520 --> 01:25:46.520
<v Speaker 3>if your child was sick, you would go find out

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01:25:46.560 --> 01:25:49.439
<v Speaker 3>what's wrong and you would go find a way to

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01:25:49.479 --> 01:25:54.560
<v Speaker 3>heal that. So I don't know, I guess I'm still yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll never stop pitching the fact that this is spiritual

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01:25:57.560 --> 01:26:01.600
<v Speaker 3>and that it exists, but but that there are ways

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<v Speaker 3>to to uh take take the reins in your hands.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't have to be as terrifying. You don't have

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01:26:08.439 --> 01:26:12.840
<v Speaker 3>to be as fearful. There are ways to to alleviate

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01:26:13.359 --> 01:26:19.640
<v Speaker 3>and to strengthen. Ah, what I believe is a gift.

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01:26:20.039 --> 01:26:24.039
<v Speaker 3>It's a gift to see what we can't see when

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01:26:24.319 --> 01:26:29.279
<v Speaker 3>we're awake and we're you know, masturbating, right. It's a

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01:26:29.319 --> 01:26:32.760
<v Speaker 3>way for us to be uh, to see what's there

1347
01:26:33.520 --> 01:26:37.520
<v Speaker 3>when you get uh, creeped out in a place with

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01:26:37.640 --> 01:26:40.840
<v Speaker 3>your kid, and it's because and you're creeped out because

1349
01:26:40.840 --> 01:26:45.159
<v Speaker 3>there's actually some creepy amon dogs that are energetically following you,

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01:26:45.159 --> 01:26:47.199
<v Speaker 3>you know, like I hadn't. That's that was unknowing that

1351
01:26:47.239 --> 01:26:52.279
<v Speaker 3>I got from that, as well as the meditative session

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01:26:52.520 --> 01:27:01.319
<v Speaker 3>where I, you know, that attached itself to me, and I,

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<v Speaker 3>by the grace of God and my my determination to

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01:27:05.239 --> 01:27:08.800
<v Speaker 3>to not be fearful, I was able to detach that.

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<v Speaker 3>And and I tell you it did a lot, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot changed, you know, just just the I didn't have

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01:27:17.039 --> 01:27:19.760
<v Speaker 3>any more of these, although when the psionic stuff started

1358
01:27:19.840 --> 01:27:22.960
<v Speaker 3>up again in in the news and all that, Uh,

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01:27:24.439 --> 01:27:27.399
<v Speaker 3>I started getting these these same kind of thing as

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01:27:27.399 --> 01:27:29.680
<v Speaker 3>the orion, just a lot of like go look outside,

1361
01:27:29.720 --> 01:27:32.920
<v Speaker 3>go look outside, because I used to do channeling, so

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01:27:33.159 --> 01:27:36.439
<v Speaker 3>I have essentially a gift that they want to me

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01:27:36.560 --> 01:27:39.399
<v Speaker 3>to utilize that I I refuse to do any of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I I already know what comes with that. You know,

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01:27:43.000 --> 01:27:46.840
<v Speaker 3>I've personally experienced what it's like to contact whatever that is,

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<v Speaker 3>and me personally, I advise against it. Uh, you know,

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01:27:52.199 --> 01:27:55.039
<v Speaker 3>do a little more research for That's that's my opinion

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<v Speaker 3>and stance on it. And because of the whole hit

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01:27:58.359 --> 01:28:02.319
<v Speaker 3>tracker thing. But yeah, people are gonna think what they're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna think, you know, uh, and and that's that's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I do wish they if they're gonna be staunched. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I said, just look at Heinech. Just look at what

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01:28:14.199 --> 01:28:17.159
<v Speaker 3>he went through. You didn't believe any of it, and

1374
01:28:18.039 --> 01:28:21.079
<v Speaker 3>maybe not completely even after. But something happened to those

1375
01:28:21.119 --> 01:28:25.760
<v Speaker 3>people that he that he uh, that he interviewed, you know,

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01:28:26.239 --> 01:28:31.199
<v Speaker 3>the ones that it was undeniable. Oh, I don't care.

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01:28:31.199 --> 01:28:35.439
<v Speaker 3>If I'm here to just entertain people, that's fine, that's fine.

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01:28:36.239 --> 01:28:40.600
<v Speaker 3>But I genuinely appreciate Brandon having having me here and

1379
01:28:40.720 --> 01:28:43.640
<v Speaker 3>letting me tell some my my wild reality.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely appreciate having you on here tonight, if you

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01:28:53.479 --> 01:28:55.640
<v Speaker 1>would like to be a guest on Tinfoil Tels, remember

1382
01:28:55.680 --> 01:28:58.239
<v Speaker 1>to send an email the Tinfoil Tells Podcast at gmail

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01:28:58.279 --> 01:29:01.000
<v Speaker 1>dot com, or you can also go to tenfoiltales dot

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01:29:01.039 --> 01:29:03.279
<v Speaker 1>com and go to the contact section. Just make sure

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01:29:03.319 --> 01:29:04.640
<v Speaker 1>to reach out and get a hold of me and

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01:29:04.680 --> 01:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>we will get something to schedule for a future episode.

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<v Speaker 1>You can also find ten foil Tales on Facebook and Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Just look for tenfoil Tales podcast. Reach out to me

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<v Speaker 1>that way too. Remember to share the show around. Word

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<v Speaker 1>of mouth is the best way to help the show grow.

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<v Speaker 1>And just remember truth comes at a cost. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>willing to pay the price.
