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Speaker 2: outside here in the Kentuckian area. But that's not that's
Speaker 2: not matching the energy that I would say the majority
Speaker 2: of our audience has when it comes to their weekend
Speaker 2: as really college basketball fans. Right, if you're a Louisville fan,
Speaker 2: now we're reminded like that kind of sucks losing a
Speaker 2: game that you really had no business losing. We'll talk
Speaker 2: a lot about it today, but I mean that was
Speaker 2: that was another part of the process for me as
Speaker 2: a Louisville fan as far as remembering sort of what
Speaker 2: that was like, because you know, even some great teams
Speaker 2: have had losses like that along the way. I mean,
Speaker 2: even great teams currently in college basketball have a rare loss,
Speaker 2: maybe not all of them, but you know, Pat Kelsey
Speaker 2: before Saturday, any game that he had lost, I don't
Speaker 2: really think he was supposed to win. I mean, we
Speaker 2: now know that Louisville being favored in that second game
Speaker 2: of the season against Tennessee was kind of silly. But
Speaker 2: I mean, look at Tennessee and you know, look at Louisville.
Speaker 2: Louisville still having a good season, especially where expectations were.
Speaker 2: But you know, losing a game that you know you
Speaker 2: shouldn't lose, it happens, but man, it stings. I think
Speaker 2: there's so much love for this team that at least
Speaker 2: I haven't seen a whole lot of folks out there,
Speaker 2: you know, acting as if the last month wasn't great,
Speaker 2: and this team can still potentially get to the tournament
Speaker 2: and obviously maybe win a couple of games, but it's just,
Speaker 2: you know, those are the losses that really sting. And
Speaker 2: what is going to be a real, maybe first time
Speaker 2: situation type of thing, is that that was a costly loss.
Speaker 2: You didn't I mean, George Tech had nine wins going
Speaker 2: into that game, or maybe they had eight and got ninth.
Speaker 2: I don't know how it ended up playing out. But
Speaker 2: obviously that's a bad loss, and you are in a
Speaker 2: position now, and look, you've put yourself in this position. However,
Speaker 2: the league doesn't really help you. But you really can't
Speaker 2: afford anything like that again, and I guess, just to
Speaker 2: be reminded, you know this team can lose, and I
Speaker 2: think we all knew this team was vulnerable and could
Speaker 2: lose to anybody if they don't play well. Right before
Speaker 2: the ACC streak started. You gotta keep in mind they
Speaker 2: nearly lost at home to EKU, so I've kind of
Speaker 2: always known this team could lose to anybody if they
Speaker 2: don't play well. It's not as if they just can
Speaker 2: play a D plus type of game and win based
Speaker 2: off pure talent. But I guess the visual right seeing
Speaker 2: them get beat by a bad team, who, by the way,
Speaker 2: I mean not making an excuses, you still should have won.
Speaker 2: You still should have made free throws, You should have
Speaker 2: been able to execute a little better, should have been
Speaker 2: able to make stops. But man, Georgia Tech hit some
Speaker 2: insanely tough shots like those guys were, I mean they
Speaker 2: were ready. But again, a bad loss, no doubt, and
Speaker 2: now you've certainly fallen when it comes to the seed line,
Speaker 2: and you're safely in right now, but in a very
Speaker 2: little room for error because there's not in fact, there
Speaker 2: is not a I was gonna say, there's not many.
Speaker 2: There's not any games left in the regular season that
Speaker 2: are going to do a whole lot to really improve
Speaker 2: your resume, and any slip up from here on out
Speaker 2: in the regular season would be a real stain. I mean,
Speaker 2: some even worse than the loss you just took to
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech. And also you got to keep in mind,
Speaker 2: I mean, if you can lose to Georgia Tech like that,
Speaker 2: there's plenty of teams in the ACC that I wouldn't
Speaker 2: say are very good at all, but if they play
Speaker 2: like that, they get hot, it could happen again. I
Speaker 2: mean NC State comes to mind for me, another team
Speaker 2: with a bad record, but I know they've got some
Speaker 2: personnel that could give a little problems. So you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not worried. I feel the same way about this
Speaker 2: team as I did last week. But you know, clearly
Speaker 2: they've they've put themselves in a spot here to where
Speaker 2: the tournament's not something you're worried about making, at least
Speaker 2: as of right now. But that loss was not a
Speaker 2: good one when it comes to just what it does
Speaker 2: to your resume. And then if you're a Kentucky fan,
Speaker 2: I mean that sucked, right. I mean, I'm not here
Speaker 2: to you know, pile on. I mean, would be a liar,
Speaker 2: and I don't want to be dishonest with you if
Speaker 2: I said that I didn't enjoy the outcome. I learned
Speaker 2: pretty quickly there was not going to be any first
Speaker 2: time moment where Kentucky basketball is in action and I'm
Speaker 2: not rooting for the other team. It was a little
Speaker 2: bit weird, you know, like I you know, because I
Speaker 2: don't I don't like to see cal do well necessarily
Speaker 2: and certainly. I mean, I don't even think Kenny Payne
Speaker 2: was brought up on the broadcast, not that he was needed.
Speaker 2: I mean I don't think he's I mean, in fact,
Speaker 2: what would you say he's bringing to the table for
Speaker 2: John Kella Perry. I would say probably not much of
Speaker 2: anything during the game. But nonetheless, like you know, I was,
Speaker 2: I was wanting Arkansas to win, but I didn't I
Speaker 2: didn't see it playing out the way that it did.
Speaker 2: I mean, I really really thought Kentucky fans were aware
Speaker 2: that they could lose, but I just think what it
Speaker 2: came down to, it really wasn't complicated, right, This is
Speaker 2: an emotional type of situation here, cal coming back. He
Speaker 2: certainly got booed, and that was, you know, probably not
Speaker 2: a surprise to him. What I said last week ended
Speaker 2: up actually playing out exactly the way I thought it would,
Speaker 2: which I didn't hear anybody else mentioning this, but his booze, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they sounded loud because you had to keep in mind
Speaker 2: of all the people there, the vast majority aren't probably
Speaker 2: going to boo or cheer. Maybe I'm wrong here, but
Speaker 2: it's not like you're going to see which drowns out,
Speaker 2: which the boos are the cheers. No, I mean keep
Speaker 2: in mind there's many people that probably wouldn't boo because
Speaker 2: that's just not their personality. And when you're silent, you know,
Speaker 2: you can be in a room of ten people and
Speaker 2: if two people are booing and the other two are silent,
Speaker 2: you know what it's going to sound like overwhelming boo.
Speaker 2: So I think he got booed, maybe more so than
Speaker 2: a lot of us expected. But there was never going
Speaker 2: to be a scenario where you got to tip off
Speaker 2: and you're trying to talk to your buddy who you
Speaker 2: came to the game with. Hmm, do you think it
Speaker 2: was more cheer and more booz was always going to
Speaker 2: sound like more booze. But anyways, I mean Kentucky fans,
Speaker 2: I feel like, as I just mentioned a moment ago,
Speaker 2: they were aware they could lose, but I think they
Speaker 2: just felt like it would be really tough to envision
Speaker 2: it happening because Arkansas was bad. Like, make no mistake
Speaker 2: about it, Arkansas just hasn't been a good team this year.
Speaker 2: And I think they kind of found themselves, and Austin
Speaker 2: you can relate to this. They found themselves somewhat in
Speaker 2: a similar situation that Louisville fans had been in with
Speaker 2: Calip Perry before, where you knew this year we were better.
Speaker 2: It wasn't often. I'm not gonna act like Louisville had
Speaker 2: a bunch of teams that should have beat Kentucky, but
Speaker 2: he was here long enough to where there were a few.
Speaker 2: And even if Louisville wasn't great, you certainly you know
Speaker 2: you had some teams for cal but you know, if
Speaker 2: they can get beat by Rando's in the you know,
Speaker 2: random teams in the SEC, or get beat by un
Speaker 2: C Wilmington in the regular season or Evansville then, like,
Speaker 2: you know, you have the ability to go do it.
Speaker 2: But Cal, in those moments, you know, you just I
Speaker 2: think louisvill fans always kind of knew as if we
Speaker 2: were accepting defeat. But the scenario where his team didn't
Speaker 2: come ready to play in that kind of a moment,
Speaker 2: which just hard to imagine. And sure enough, that's exactly
Speaker 2: what happened on Saturday. Cal brought it And I don't
Speaker 2: think he's a great coach for exit and O's but
Speaker 2: you know, I really can't put it into words. But
Speaker 2: you know, is unfortunate for me given to this as
Speaker 2: a talk show, but Austin, you know, Cal's got something
Speaker 2: about him to wear in those moments. He does put
Speaker 2: fear in you. Mm hmmm. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4: If it's just like an aura, it's the aura and
Speaker 4: maybe it's a slick back hair or I don't know.
Speaker 2: He's larger than life personality presence. I mean, he's one
Speaker 2: of those last ogs. Yes, and there's nothing this day
Speaker 2: and age to build your brand in college basketball as
Speaker 2: a coach and really kind of become a known name.
Speaker 2: It's more so going to happen when you trust me.
Speaker 2: I'm not comparing cal to Kelsey, but that's the new
Speaker 2: way to kind of really rise right a guy. That man,
Speaker 2: he's relatable, he seems kind of cool. I could see
Speaker 2: myself playing for him cal as an og to where
Speaker 2: he's he's the star in town. I mean, and to
Speaker 2: be fair, it's worked for him for the most part,
Speaker 2: and he's coached some pretty heavier rivalry games. And I'm
Speaker 2: sure that Pope has at BYU. He's been in the
Speaker 2: building when Rick Bettino has came back, and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: especially after all this stuff with Rick Bettino and the
Speaker 2: FBI stuff and even the Karen Ciphers stuff back then,
Speaker 2: Reparina was a lot more amplified for sure. When Louisville
Speaker 2: made their way out onto the courts. Rick added an
Speaker 2: element that no coach around here ever will just because
Speaker 2: of his connection to UK and the personal robbery that
Speaker 2: cal and and and Rick had with one another. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I look, Arkansas played their ass off, and
Speaker 2: I have no clue if they're going to end up
Speaker 2: having a strong finish and maybe find themselves on the bubble.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I think I don't want to act
Speaker 2: like Kentucky fans thought there was no chance, because again
Speaker 2: I think they realized in these times, in these type
Speaker 2: of games, in this moment, this is really kind of
Speaker 2: what John Caliperry does. Doesn't mean he's gonna win, but
Speaker 2: he I mean that Arkansas team, I mean, because I'm
Speaker 2: trying to think, Okay, was it fluky right? Was was
Speaker 2: that really just you know, the basketball gods delivering for
Speaker 2: cali Perry and wanting and wanting bb In to be
Speaker 2: miserable because you know, DJ Wagner doing what he did
Speaker 2: in the second half. He'll never do that again. Like
Speaker 2: I mean, I felt terrible because I do have some
Speaker 2: friends that are I have a lot of friends that
Speaker 2: are UK fans, but I'm in a group chat with
Speaker 2: my buddies and it's it's both mostly UK fans and
Speaker 2: now that I think about it, but I wasn't even
Speaker 2: really like trolling. It was early on in the game
Speaker 2: and Wagner was terrible in the first half, and I texted,
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen DJ Wagner make a shot,
Speaker 2: and then sure enough he played out of his ass
Speaker 2: in the second half, and he was always going to
Speaker 2: be good defensively, and he did it. I think you
Speaker 2: missed Butler because DJ Wagner was able to just kind
Speaker 2: of keep It wasn't like he was turning you over
Speaker 2: every now and then. It wasn't like he was just
Speaker 2: causing havoc. But he was a He did a good
Speaker 2: job of exposing Kentucky for not having a point guard
Speaker 2: and really not letting them ever get it into just
Speaker 2: a game with countless possessions like they want to play now.
Speaker 2: So so again Wagner again, we'll see if he's he's
Speaker 2: able to ever do that again. One thing that really
Speaker 2: stood out to me, and I don't want to actually
Speaker 2: it wasn't talked about because it was but Arkansas came out,
Speaker 2: I mean shooting lights out and it was and that's
Speaker 2: not that's not first of all, that's not all Rangers too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean they were just making tough shots, but like
Speaker 2: the deep threes that were and tested like they were
Speaker 2: mad in fact they I don't know what it ended
Speaker 2: up playing out to when it comes to the numbers,
Speaker 2: but I mean early on you would have thought Kentucky
Speaker 2: was the team that wanted to shoot a ton of threes,
Speaker 2: and that was a part of their strength, but in fact,
Speaker 2: they were terrible from three point range coming into the game.
Speaker 2: But you know what, they made thirteen of them, and
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be shocked if they don't make ten in
Speaker 2: a game the rest of the season. So that's too
Speaker 2: And here's where I feel like the game really kind
Speaker 2: of changed because early on Kentucky got up. Gosh, what
Speaker 2: was the biggest lead for Kentucky. I think it was
Speaker 2: eighteen to twelve something like that. That's Robins three. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that sounds right, and I think cal called a time out,
Speaker 2: and right out of the time out they were able
Speaker 2: to kind of climb right back in it, get it
Speaker 2: to where it was back and forth really the rest
Speaker 2: of the way until Arkansas pulled away late. But I
Speaker 2: feel like had that had that time, had Kentucky been
Speaker 2: able to get a couple more momentum type plays, maybe
Speaker 2: another three or a bucket, I think Arkansas a team
Speaker 2: coming in with that kind of record, part of me
Speaker 2: says they might have just folded, because that's just that's
Speaker 2: that's the human element of sports, right You're you're in
Speaker 2: that environment, which, by the way, that's one of the
Speaker 2: best environments I've ever seen in sports. Certainly one of
Speaker 2: the best environments I've ever seen in college basketball. You
Speaker 2: could feel the tension, you could. I mean that was
Speaker 2: that was theater, that was cinematic, and I as a
Speaker 2: college basketball fan, man, we need more stuff like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, that was it was, It was amazing. I
Speaker 2: mean again, I don't I don't know what the numbers
Speaker 2: are gonna look like, but there's no scenario that game
Speaker 2: didn't dominate every other college basketball game that day. Duke
Speaker 2: Carolina wasn't a game. And again, you could not even
Speaker 2: be a bit you can just be a casual college
Speaker 2: hoops fan. The storyline there just everything about that was
Speaker 2: interesting and entertaining. But anyways, if you're Arkansas and you're
Speaker 2: in that environment, you you mentally can tell yourself, hey,
Speaker 2: we're still in it. We're a good team, but you
Speaker 2: know you're not. You know, this is what happens. You
Speaker 2: get beat by good teams like Kentucky, but cal call
Speaker 2: the time out. They they you know, they didn't make
Speaker 2: some big, big time run, at least I don't remember
Speaker 2: that they did. But then Arkansas kept kept showing, Hey
Speaker 2: we're making place too, We're getting dunks, we're making tough shots.
Speaker 2: We're blocking shots, and they just played with the confidence
Speaker 2: that Cal has usually carried himself with, and sometimes it's
Speaker 2: been not valid and confidence that you know, I'm wondering
Speaker 2: where he's getting it from. But there was something about
Speaker 2: Cal at Kentucky that I mean, I'm probably not sharing
Speaker 2: something that everybody else didn't observe, but it hit me
Speaker 2: when watching that game. You know, one of the reasons
Speaker 2: why Cal was so successful in those kind of moments,
Speaker 2: rivalry moments, big games. Not to say he won them all,
Speaker 2: but I think he carried himself with such arrogance and
Speaker 2: confidence that his players believed that they were better than everybody,
Speaker 2: and they didn't overthink it. They were just He has
Speaker 2: the ability to get guys loose and confident in those
Speaker 2: big moments, and that's a gift as a coach. Now, again,
Speaker 2: he has a lot of weaknesses as a coach, but
Speaker 2: maybe Arkansas wouldn't have folded like I mentioned, had Kentucky
Speaker 2: maybe gone on a little bit of a bigger run
Speaker 2: because of that element right where they you know, they
Speaker 2: when he's and I don't know, I don't know how
Speaker 2: he does it because there's no scenario that Kentucky that
Speaker 2: Arkansas team you saw Saturday should have the record that
Speaker 2: they have. I mean, no, no, not at all, but
Speaker 2: it meant a lot to him he has. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's the best recruiter we've ever seen in college basketball.
Speaker 2: And now the recruiting has kind of changed to where
Speaker 2: now when you're building your team every year, you're going
Speaker 2: to rely on the portal to where the freshman component
Speaker 2: is still important, but just not what it once was.
Speaker 2: So like, I don't see anybody in the modern era,
Speaker 2: the way things are going now ever being able to
Speaker 2: bring in high school recruits annually better than he did
Speaker 2: during his time in Kentucky. And really what he's doing
Speaker 2: at Arkansas, so that you know that, does a lot
Speaker 2: of people say, well, hey, you know that's he's just
Speaker 2: a recruiter, not a coach. Well, that's it's part of it, right.
Speaker 2: You could have weaknesses and strengths, and obviously there's a
Speaker 2: big difference in recruiting somebody and strategic stuff when it
Speaker 2: comes to x's and o's. But Saturday is a reminder
Speaker 2: that despite his stubbornness, despite him probably being able to
Speaker 2: find himself in three final fours with three different programs,
Speaker 2: it's or so just because of the talent he brought in.
Speaker 2: But really you could say that about everybody. Where Cal's
Speaker 2: shortfalls really are exposed is that when people realize, Hey,
Speaker 2: for all this talent that this guy has, for all
Speaker 2: these NBA players that he has, shouldn't he have a
Speaker 2: little more like top level success. And that's a valid conversation.
Speaker 2: And again that speaks to him probably not having the
Speaker 2: chops when it comes to x's and o's to really
Speaker 2: maximize what you can get out of the elite players
Speaker 2: that he's brought in. But he's got a gift to
Speaker 2: bring those players in, relate to them, have them play
Speaker 2: really really hard, and they love him. I mean, and
Speaker 2: you saw that play out on Saturday. There were some
Speaker 2: guys that had some real emotion happy for Cal, and
Speaker 2: some of them seem to, you know, really want to
Speaker 2: rub it in BBN's face. Others I don't think they
Speaker 2: wanted to do that. But man, that read Shepherd thing,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna save that for later because that I would
Speaker 2: have never in my I would have if all the
Speaker 2: people that you could have told me was gonna in
Speaker 2: Arkansas T shirt with Kentucky shorts, he would have been
Speaker 2: the absolute dead last, and I mean, I can't relate.
Speaker 2: I'm not a Kentucky fan, but if I was, I
Speaker 2: would imagine that one would hurt just because you know,
Speaker 2: it's Ree Shepherd. His dad won a title in Kentucky.
Speaker 2: His dad was the roommate with the guy coaching Kentucky
Speaker 2: right now, So again back to Cal, guys love him,
Speaker 2: and you know they have great loyalty to him, They
Speaker 2: want to they wanted that for him. And again, I
Speaker 2: don't know what Cal's gonna do the rest of the way,
Speaker 2: meaning this season and really the rest of his career.
Speaker 2: Like I don't think he's in a good spot. Saturday
Speaker 2: really didn't change that. Kentucky's still a better team, still
Speaker 2: gonna get a good seed, I would imagine, and Arkansas
Speaker 2: probably won't make the tournament. But in that moment was
Speaker 2: a reminder of why he's great in those situations and
Speaker 2: honestly why he was great for Kentucky. Right Like they are,
Speaker 2: they're arrogant, and look some of that is I mean justified.
Speaker 2: There great program. Let's be honest, Kentucky basketball is one
Speaker 2: of the best programs in the history of the sport,
Speaker 2: right so they have a good reason to feel good
Speaker 2: about themselves, but he brought out the reel like arrogance,
Speaker 2: and man, those two were they were compatible, right. It
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know, I was gonna make a
Speaker 2: weird analogy and it might have gotten perverted, so I
Speaker 2: won't do it. But they were perfect for each other
Speaker 2: for those moments, right, because he knew that Kentucky has
Speaker 2: a confident, arrogant fan based to an extent. I don't
Speaker 2: mean every Kentucky fan out there is an arrogant a hole,
Speaker 2: but you know what I mean, like they're Kentucky and
Speaker 2: they want you to know that. Well, cal fed into
Speaker 2: that and when they were rolling, I mean, they were
Speaker 2: the villain of college basketball, and he embraced that. He
Speaker 2: was comfortable doing it. He knew teams were scared to
Speaker 2: play there, yes, and he absolutely operated in fear. And
Speaker 2: it was I mean, I didn't like it. I'm a
Speaker 2: LOWLL fan. Clearly it didn't work out well for us.
Speaker 2: So I still think there's the job has changed, man,
Speaker 2: college basketball coaches, college college football coaches too. I mean
Speaker 2: when you throw in free agency essentially with the portal
Speaker 2: and with nil, I mean it's you're still coaching basketball,
Speaker 2: but there's so much more to it. And there's things
Speaker 2: that I think now they matter as far as like relatability,
Speaker 2: adjusting on the fly, like willing to adapt. You got
Speaker 2: to be able to do that now. Back in the day,
Speaker 2: you didn't have to. So you know, Cali Perry to me,
Speaker 2: is somebody that in the right moment at the right time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he could beat anybody, and nobody's going to be surprised,
Speaker 2: especially if he keeps bringing in talent. But you know,
Speaker 2: if you're a Kentucky fan, I'm sure you're thinking, well,
Speaker 2: you know, we probably should have seen that coming because
Speaker 2: that's what this guy does. And look, you can be
Speaker 2: critical of your team, but I mean they just they
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at the numbers Kentucky missing
Speaker 2: free throws, that was a big deal. But I mean
Speaker 2: for Kentucky to turn it over as many more times
Speaker 2: than as than our I mean fourteen turnovers for Kentucky,
Speaker 2: eight for Arkansas. I mean there's things that really you
Speaker 2: probably felt pretty good out that when it comes to
Speaker 2: how you would compete in the stat sheet for certain things.
Speaker 2: But Arkansas wasn't the same Arkansas team Saturdays. They've been
Speaker 2: all year, and it's for obvious reasons. Because of what
Speaker 2: that game was. And yeah, I mean they got Old
Speaker 2: Miss tomorrow in Oxford, so that'll be a tough one
Speaker 2: for them. Louisville will be back in action on a
Speaker 2: Wednesday at Boston College and obviously you know you can't
Speaker 2: you can't lose that one, and I don't think they will.
Speaker 2: But man, what a wild finish? Did you see Boston
Speaker 2: College beat Florida State on Saturday?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I didn't. Okay, good. I was gonna say, you know,
Speaker 2: if you were like watching that game, then I would
Speaker 2: have probably judged you. You weren't. You have a life.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you the finish for that Arkansas or
Speaker 2: not Arkansas, but the Georgia Tech. The hell am I
Speaker 2: talking about? Boston College beat Florida State in Boston? And
Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't make me any more scared of
Speaker 2: Boston College because they didn't pull off a miraculous victory.
Speaker 2: But more than anything, it was just Florida State crapping
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Speaker 2: you did. Not a lot of happy college basketball fans
Speaker 2: around here. And this is I guess one way to
Speaker 2: look at it. Eleven ranked teams lost last week or
Speaker 2: over the weekend, I should say, or yeah, Saturday was
Speaker 2: the day, specifically Saturday time the most losses by ranked
Speaker 2: teams in a single day in ap pole history. So
Speaker 2: the bad side of that is both Louisville and Kentucky
Speaker 2: are actually the bigger, the two biggest falls in the
Speaker 2: net rankings after their loss. The Kentucky fell five spots
Speaker 2: two number looks like number nineteen, and Louisville fell five
Speaker 2: spots from twenty five to thirty. So yeah, not good.
Speaker 2: I guess Marquette, I don't know who they lost to,
Speaker 2: but looks like they also, so I guess it's the
Speaker 2: three of us Marquette, Kentucky, and Louisville that all fell.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a pretty far fall for just one game,
Speaker 2: but it makes sense. You know, Louisville lost to a
Speaker 2: bad or to Tech team and Kentucky lost to a
Speaker 2: bad Arkansas team at home. Now I'm not even sure
Speaker 2: if the resume thing has come up much for Kentucky fans.
Speaker 2: I mean, again, it's not a good loss, but I
Speaker 2: think the real reaction and everything that's what made Saturday awesome,
Speaker 2: especially just if you're just if you're a casual I
Speaker 2: shouldn't say casual. I would imagine if you're if you're
Speaker 2: a diehard college basketball fan and you're not a fan
Speaker 2: of either team, I mean, Louisville fans probably were pulling
Speaker 2: for Arkansas, but I'm just saying without really having any
Speaker 2: true giveadamn who wins. I mean that storyline that made
Speaker 2: it to where I mean, just the cal element returning
Speaker 2: to Lexington, that that that's that was the takeaway and
Speaker 2: he shined in his return. And you know, I had
Speaker 2: somebody text in during the break and I I don't
Speaker 2: have it pulled up in front of me. But they
Speaker 2: made a good point, essentially saying that what bothered them
Speaker 2: the most was how classy col was after the fact.
Speaker 2: And I guess what you mean by that is you
Speaker 2: like wanted him to be an a hole so you
Speaker 2: could feel more like justified to think he, you know,
Speaker 2: is is the wrong. You know, he's a bad guy,
Speaker 2: but he he was really classy and honestly, I think,
Speaker 2: you know, he's arrogant, as I mentioned, but he's also
Speaker 2: I think you know, I mean, I don't want to
Speaker 2: act like he's the most pompous arrogant guy out there,
Speaker 2: but he will put it this way, he had a
Speaker 2: run of arrogance. I mean it was and it was
Speaker 2: when he was on top, but I got the sense
Speaker 2: that he really which is wild, because you would have
Speaker 2: felt like he had no allies left in Lexington, left
Speaker 2: in the fan base, and clearly that wasn't the case.
Speaker 2: I think the majority of folks to this day would
Speaker 2: still say even after Saturday, that this needed to happen
Speaker 2: and he needed a fresh start somewhere else. Arkansas was
Speaker 2: willing to pay the money to get him. He knew
Speaker 2: his time had pretty much run up here as far
Speaker 2: as you know fans and what they wanted. And obviously
Speaker 2: you know that safe Kentucky a lot of money, Mark
Speaker 2: Polpe comes back, and you know he's still off to
Speaker 2: a great start, so it just, you know, just needed
Speaker 2: to happen. But clearly you could tell with Cal even
Speaker 2: like he knew that there are people that he genuinely
Speaker 2: has relationships with that he cares about, that he's close
Speaker 2: friends with, that he knew they were sad Saturday night
Speaker 2: because even though they love him like they're Kentucky fans
Speaker 2: and that's how they probably got close to him because
Speaker 2: they love Kentucky and or I guess people that you
Speaker 2: know are in a position to where they could become
Speaker 2: friendly with the guy who's coaching that basketball program. So
Speaker 2: if you mean what I think you mean, I get
Speaker 2: it now. We'll say this one of the one of
Speaker 2: the things that that that I saw from Kentucky fans
Speaker 2: and I think I heard this a little bit on
Speaker 2: the postgame show, and I know what you mean, but
Speaker 2: you're wrong. Let me explain those saying, well, look, if
Speaker 2: he would have coached like that, he'd still be here.
Speaker 2: If he was if he played like that, if you
Speaker 2: had his guys ready to play every night like that,
Speaker 2: then you know we wouldn't have had But here's where
Speaker 2: you're wrong. If cal still wanted to be your coach,
Speaker 2: he would be He didn't want to be your coach.
Speaker 2: And look, that's probably something you're still happy with. But
Speaker 2: like I think, and this is this won't really matter.
Speaker 2: In fact, it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things,
Speaker 2: but it is a big component to the divorce. Cal was.
Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't very awkward look like a hostage
Speaker 2: video with Mitch Barnhart while he was actively trying to
Speaker 2: get the hell out of Lexington. So like Kentucky couldn't
Speaker 2: fire him, Like at the end of the day, you should,
Speaker 2: if you, I mean, you should still be thanking him
Speaker 2: because I just felt like for the longest time, especially
Speaker 2: the way it it it it played out in the
Speaker 2: last couple of years. As far as just I mean,
Speaker 2: it was clear that he wanted fans to know that
Speaker 2: he didn't care what they think, and he would talk
Speaker 2: down to their fan base, and I mean it was
Speaker 2: it was pretty evident. So I just thought, well, this guy,
Speaker 2: he'll stay there for thirty years out of spite, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I just felt like he would.
Speaker 2: He would just you know, know that they want him
Speaker 2: gone and really really just you know, embrace it and say, Hahi,
Speaker 2: you can't get rid of me. But he's human like
Speaker 2: anybody else. And I don't know how anybody could could
Speaker 2: have played it that way, meaning you'd have to be
Speaker 2: a miserable human being to just want to ride it
Speaker 2: out because of spite, you know, in stubbornness. So anyways,
Speaker 2: I mean again, if he wanted to still be your coach,
Speaker 2: he would be because he wouldn't have entertained Arkansas and
Speaker 2: he would still But so again it's a it's a
Speaker 2: win win. But I think some fans are of the
Speaker 2: belief that like he came back to show you guys.
Speaker 2: That he probably did to an extent, but at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, like he did you a favor
Speaker 2: more than any anything. All right, again, it's coffee and company.
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Speaker 2: Louisville loss on Saturday at Georgia Tech and sucked. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't feel any different about this team
Speaker 2: than I did a week ago. I mean I was
Speaker 2: riding high and I kept saying, look, until I see
Speaker 2: this team come out and show that they are vulnerable,
Speaker 2: I'm going to assume that they're still going to be
Speaker 2: able to go take care of business against bad teams
Speaker 2: like Georgia Tech. And you know I was wrong because
Speaker 2: I don't think they showed a sign. I mean, defensively,
Speaker 2: clearly they were finding something that worked, meaning Georgia Tech
Speaker 2: and Louisville really never found a way to consistently stop it.
Speaker 2: And I have seen some people mention Rain Smith kind
Speaker 2: of getting exposed on defense, and I know what you
Speaker 2: mean as far as like how they were targeting him.
Speaker 2: But I also I mean, I put it this way,
Speaker 2: I have a hard time watching rain Smith over the
Speaker 2: last few months and saying that I think he's a
Speaker 2: bad defender. He clearly has some vulnerabilities with certain matchups,
Speaker 2: but anybody does, including guys who you would chalk chalk
Speaker 2: up as good defenders. So that's one thing that you know.
Speaker 2: I watched him get scored on and look, I'm not
Speaker 2: saying he was great, but you know, Georgia Tech came
Speaker 2: out and they were I mean, they were lights out,
Speaker 2: and usually I feel like for Louisville to kind of
Speaker 2: climb back out and I don't even know what the
Speaker 2: biggest deficit was. Let's see here. That's one thing I
Speaker 2: don't like about STAB broadcast because it gives you like
Speaker 2: insanely random stats that I don't think anybody some stats
Speaker 2: I don't even I don't even know what I don't
Speaker 2: even know what they are, like, I wouldn't even know
Speaker 2: how to share with you what it is here in
Speaker 2: this STAB broadcast platform. But one of them I can
Speaker 2: never find is biggest lead. Tom Oh. Yeah, So look
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech. Sorry, I'm sorry, Louisville. They led this game
Speaker 2: for twenty three minutes in thirty six seconds and their
Speaker 2: biggest lead. They took the lead three different times. And
Speaker 2: again it's not really important, but if you remember, george
Speaker 2: Tech came out hot, was hitting shots out of the
Speaker 2: rear end, and I also felt like there were times
Speaker 2: where maybe they weren't contested the way that you like.
Speaker 2: In fact, that was kind of my worry, is that
Speaker 2: they're hitting some really tough shots that I think were
Speaker 2: defended about as good as you could possibly defend, but
Speaker 2: then they'd be open for shots and then they'd miss it.
Speaker 2: I think, look, this is a bad scenario here. So
Speaker 2: Louisville Claude back Terrence Edwards kind of went to work
Speaker 2: and you know, end up leading you and scoring with
Speaker 2: twenty two. Chucky was making some plays in the first half,
Speaker 2: and I kind of I felt like, okay, Louisville was
Speaker 2: able to withstand the run from Georgia Tech, and everything's
Speaker 2: going to be okay. And then Georgia Tech, if you remember,
Speaker 2: early in the second half, it was tight, and I
Speaker 2: still felt like Louisville was in good position. And then
Speaker 2: I don't remember where we exactly were on as far
Speaker 2: as how much time was left, but once you started
Speaker 2: missing free throws at the rate they were missing free throws,
Speaker 2: and Georgia Tech continued to make tough shots that I
Speaker 2: feel like were pretty well defended. Then I felt like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this may not work out. And look or Louisville. Let's
Speaker 2: see eleven of nineteen at the free throw line from
Speaker 2: fifty eight percent. That's clearly not good. And one thing
Speaker 2: that has been kind of obvious with this team at
Speaker 2: the free throw line is that even when they found
Speaker 2: ways to win games that at the time we felt like, Wow,
Speaker 2: that was impressive. I didn't see that coming. Maybe this
Speaker 2: team could be pretty good. They were still winning those
Speaker 2: games with pretty bad free throw nights here and there.
Speaker 2: Now they've also games where they'll shoot like eighteen of
Speaker 2: twenty four or something, and that's really good. And I guess,
Speaker 2: more so than anything, it depends on who's shooting the
Speaker 2: free throws. But I think this team, as much as
Speaker 2: I mean, they are what they are when it comes
Speaker 2: to free throws. I think you've got guys that you
Speaker 2: feel really confident about when they go to the line.
Speaker 2: You've got guys you really don't feel confident about when
Speaker 2: they go to the line. James Scott Trey Oure. But
Speaker 2: then you have guys who you know are shooting a
Speaker 2: good percentage on the year. You know more often than
Speaker 2: not they'll make them. But then again they'll randomly miss
Speaker 2: two in a row or they'll miss the front end
Speaker 2: of the one and one. So that's really been a
Speaker 2: vulnerability for this team all year and it was clearly
Speaker 2: one of the factors and why you weren't able to
Speaker 2: win against a Georgia Tech team. That again, let me,
Speaker 2: I don't want to act like they're great. I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to tell you, hey, well, no, it's a fine loss.
Speaker 2: People don't realize how good Georgia Tech is. No, they're
Speaker 2: not good. And that's why Louisville was a big faller
Speaker 2: in the net rankings, and really it has changed their
Speaker 2: profile right now. They went from being a board and
Speaker 2: that's just you know how it works. Your resume was
Speaker 2: that was at a spot where you had no bad
Speaker 2: losses at all, and you really didn't have any signature wins,
Speaker 2: but you had some wins with good value and you know,
Speaker 2: you beat down some of these teams in the ACC
Speaker 2: that probably doesn't mean anything, but when you beat down
Speaker 2: Virginia about twenty points on the road, and you handle
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh at their place, and there was a couple of
Speaker 2: other games where they Syracuse where you won by so
Speaker 2: much against albeit bad teams, but it was bumping you
Speaker 2: up here and there with the with the net rankings.
Speaker 2: So you went from being like a five seed ceiling,
Speaker 2: six seed floor really for about a two week stretch
Speaker 2: to now you're probably an eight and you don't have
Speaker 2: really many opportunities at all in the regular season to
Speaker 2: do something that's going to improve your resume enough to
Speaker 2: kind of see you jumping ahead in the sea line
Speaker 2: because which you have now that you didn't have before.
Speaker 2: And it really was in a way maybe like if
Speaker 2: you're talking about the two things that stand out as
Speaker 2: the most impressive on Louisville's resume prior to Saturday, it
Speaker 2: was won their record, but also they had no bad losses.
Speaker 2: Well now you do. Now you got a real bad loss.
Speaker 2: It's not the worst loss in the world, and you
Speaker 2: can still clearly put yourself in the tournament. And I'm
Speaker 2: not trying to be gloom doom, but I mean that
Speaker 2: was the resume was tricky already just because of the
Speaker 2: acc being what it is and because of how bad
Speaker 2: the league is and that Look, this goes back to
Speaker 2: look Louisville got and I'm not I trust me. I'm
Speaker 2: not going to do the same rant that I've done
Speaker 2: many times in the last couple of weeks. But Louisville
Speaker 2: fell in the net rankings by beating George, by beating
Speaker 2: wake Forest by double digits, like that should never have happened,
Speaker 2: But that's just how the system works in and wake
Speaker 2: Forest was such a bad team in the metrics that
Speaker 2: even beating them by double digits, despite them being fifteen
Speaker 2: and five and really a better win than you had,
Speaker 2: you fell. So then when you actually do lose to
Speaker 2: a team that is way worse than wake Forest, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's a killer. And I'm not worried at all about
Speaker 2: this team coming out ready to play Wednesday. I think
Speaker 2: they'll bounce back. I mean, I think there was never
Speaker 2: any worry. I don't want to act like, well, this
Speaker 2: would be a good thing, this will humble them, because
Speaker 2: I'd be a liar if I told you that I
Speaker 2: felt like they lost Saturday because they were letting the
Speaker 2: hype get to their head. I think they came ready
Speaker 2: to play. They just ran into a team that was
Speaker 2: really really hot, made some really big shots, and in
Speaker 2: crucial moments Louisville did not make plays, missed free throws,
Speaker 2: and Georgia Tech just they found a way to win.
Speaker 2: And one thing that I'll throw out there, that is
Speaker 2: something we kind of need to keep an eye on,
Speaker 2: I mean, what we can do about it. But I
Speaker 2: felt like that was the first time Louisville kind of
Speaker 2: got held accountable for how physical they are defensively. There
Speaker 2: were fouls called that I feel like you don't often
Speaker 2: see called on Louisville, at least you haven't in a while,
Speaker 2: with their guards just kind of being physical and handsy
Speaker 2: early in the game. But if they do call it,
Speaker 2: I can't sit her and say that I'm totally surprised. So,
Speaker 2: you know, Louisville committing fouls, slowing the game down a
Speaker 2: little bit, them not getting in the rhythm they wanted.
Speaker 2: It worked to Georgia Tech's advantage, but you gotta be
Speaker 2: mindful of that. When I'm not saying they got a
Speaker 2: bad whistle, but I would. I mean, I'll tell you
Speaker 2: that I thought Georgia Tech probably got a better whistle,
Speaker 2: and that's not because I think the reps were conspiring
Speaker 2: to cheat. That's just sports. I mean, the home team,
Speaker 2: the home environment. Referees are human beings. They're going to
Speaker 2: I mean, why do you think, what do you think?
Speaker 2: There's just a mindset that nobody's cheating, they're not against you.
Speaker 2: But the likelihood of you playing at somebody else's place,
Speaker 2: you're gonna you're you're gonna probably feel like at the
Speaker 2: end of that game that they got maybe a few
Speaker 2: more calls that went their way that should have gone
Speaker 2: your way, or maybe if it's a fifty to fifty call,
Speaker 2: they're gonna give it to the home crowd. Again, it's
Speaker 2: just conversation for a different day. But that's just the
Speaker 2: human element that I think people oftentimes just ignore when
Speaker 2: it comes to sports. But anyways, back to this loss again.
Speaker 2: I think they'll bounce back. I think they'll play well,
Speaker 2: but make no mistake about it, you really can't do
Speaker 2: this again and feel great about the tournament. I mean,
Speaker 2: is an eight seed of bubble team as and I
Speaker 2: feel like it isn't. But it's close. Yeah, it's right
Speaker 2: on the verge. I think once you get to nine
Speaker 2: and we're and nine and lower your your bubble, you start.
Speaker 4: Counting all right, what kind of big wins do we have? Yeah,
Speaker 4: you're really looking at the resume instead of feeling how
Speaker 4: comfortable we worked a week ago.
Speaker 2: I know, and you know I I still am comfortable
Speaker 2: they're gonna make the tournament. But what really just is
Speaker 2: is an unusual place to be in as a Louisville
Speaker 2: fan who more often than not when I watched level
Speaker 2: of basketball in seasons where I know they're gonna make
Speaker 2: the tournament, there's all kinds of opportunities to improve your resume.
Speaker 2: You can, you can erase this one. I mean, it
Speaker 2: doesn't go away, but man, you made up for it.
Speaker 2: I mean, like Kentucky, they'll lose. You know, they'll lose
Speaker 2: to Arkansas at home, but then they might if they
Speaker 2: turn around and beat All Miss last night. It quite
Speaker 2: literally you you're gonna benefit more than you're gonna hurt
Speaker 2: in that scenario. Liva just doesn't have any opportunities to
Speaker 2: do that because of how down the league is. So
Speaker 2: you know, you Louisa could play because I don't think
Speaker 2: they played terrible on Saturday. They didn't. They clearly did
Speaker 2: some things you can't do to expect to win on
Speaker 2: the road. Actually, when a team is playing well. So like,
Speaker 2: I'm not acting like they came out and played a
Speaker 2: great game, but I just what has to me a
Speaker 2: little bit, I guess less confident. It's not because how
Speaker 2: differently I feel about this team as far as what
Speaker 2: they can do and their personnel. It's just the visual
Speaker 2: of actually being reminded that they can They can lose
Speaker 2: games to teams that are as bad as Georgia Tech.
Speaker 2: But I just my worry, more than anything, is that
Speaker 2: I think Georgia Tech, although they have some good guards,
Speaker 2: like I don't think they're as good as NC State.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're as good as Notre Dame Florida State.
Speaker 2: Hard to know much about them, but you know they're
Speaker 2: they're at least decent for the league. Pittsburgh. I know
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's got a good team, good players. So like, if
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech can do it, I do, you know, I
Speaker 2: guess just more than anything, I'm more aware that they
Speaker 2: in fact could loose to anybody because we watched it
Speaker 2: happen on Saturday. All right, quick break, We'll come back
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Speaker 2: I don't think I can remember a trade in professional
Speaker 2: sports that roughly two days later, people still are having
Speaker 2: a tough having a tough time believing that it really happened.
Speaker 2: I know Saturday night, I was I was feeling pretty
Speaker 2: good by the time that news broke because it was
Speaker 2: late and I was, you know, I was at home
Speaker 2: and the recliner many bush lights had been eliminated at
Speaker 2: that time, and gummy or gummy gummy gummy had been
Speaker 2: had been popped, and I was feeling good. And I
Speaker 2: saw that and thought, there's no way that's real. And
Speaker 2: by the way, I think everybody also had the same
Speaker 2: initial reaction, Oh my god, Sham's got hacked. But it
Speaker 2: wasn't it was real. And I woke up the next
Speaker 2: day and because of sort of my just hovering over
Speaker 2: clouds the night before, I thought, well, did I dream that, Like,
Speaker 2: was that real? And sure enough it is real. So
Speaker 2: Luka doncik for Anthony Davis among other things. But that's
Speaker 2: really what the trade comes down to. And I just
Speaker 2: don't know what would have led Dallas to make this
Speaker 2: move unless they know a lot more than there than
Speaker 2: we know about Luca. I mean that, I really, even
Speaker 2: if he's in bad shape and you're tired of him
Speaker 2: having to get in good shape, it's a twenty five
Speaker 2: year old who just took you to the NBA Finals
Speaker 2: and is one of the best players on the planet
Speaker 2: twenty five again, I mean young Anthony Davis is thirty
Speaker 2: two and has been injury prone his whole life, And like,
Speaker 2: I just don't I don't get it. I mean, even
Speaker 2: if you were thinking, Okay, we got to strike now
Speaker 2: because of timing, right, Klay Thompson who's now with Dallas,
Speaker 2: he's thirty five years old, thirty four years old something
Speaker 2: like that, close to that, his window's not going to
Speaker 2: be open and very much longer. Right Kyrie Irving, I
Speaker 2: think you kind of say the same thing about Kyrie.
Speaker 2: And also you have Kyrie from when I understand on
Speaker 2: a deal that like if he does play real, like
Speaker 2: Kyrie is the kind of guy that if he balls
Speaker 2: out and kind of puts himself back in there in
Speaker 2: that elite top tier of the NBA, he'll get a
Speaker 2: bigger deal and leave you. Like you know, so there
Speaker 2: are scenarios where you could say the timings, the timings
Speaker 2: is tight here. Therefore, even though AD's older and injury prone,
Speaker 2: we think right now he could be the piece. All
Speaker 2: that would make sense if you weren't getting rid of
Speaker 2: Luka Doncik, who is again like one of the best
Speaker 2: players on the planet. He's proven that he's young. I
Speaker 2: think when you get to the finals, that's a breakthrough, right,
Speaker 2: That's that's that's a moment where okay, not only I
Speaker 2: mean this, like for example, there's a lot of young
Speaker 2: stars in the NBA that clearly are are elite and
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards, I mean, Donovan Mitchell, but you know they
Speaker 2: haven't done they made the finals yet, and that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff matters. You got to win one when you
Speaker 2: get there. But like he is, well within a twenty
Speaker 2: years old, Luga Doncik is absolutely on course to be
Speaker 2: one of the best players that ever played this game. Now, again,
Speaker 2: a lot of that's determined on the rings you get
Speaker 2: and we don't you know, tough to know, but again,
Speaker 2: he's twenty five and he just came off the finals
Speaker 2: where he led you there, So I just I think
Speaker 2: I think there's something about Luca that they don't like
Speaker 2: or that like maybe is is a red flag. But
Speaker 2: then again, I kind of feel like this day and age,
Speaker 2: we'd know that, Like we wouldn't know that if in
Speaker 2: fact there was something about Luca that like made him
Speaker 2: and he looked by the way, but even if he
Speaker 2: was an a hole, you think of all the all
Speaker 2: the stars of professional sports over the years that have
Speaker 2: probably been jerks, like that's it shouldn't be that way,
Speaker 2: but like that's kind of part of it. And again,
Speaker 2: for to lead to where you want to get rid
Speaker 2: of him because you can't stand him, he'd have to
Speaker 2: be an insanely not an insane level of jerk to
Speaker 2: where we would just know and yet they wanted to
Speaker 2: part ways with him. Really really does seem it does
Speaker 2: seem strange, and you know, maybe because you know his
Speaker 2: body type, because like Lucas one of those guys that
Speaker 2: doesn't look like he should be able to do what
Speaker 2: he's doing right Larry Bird. Never got to watch Bird
Speaker 2: play live too young, But I'll I can never stop
Speaker 2: watching Larry Bird highlights because it looks like somebody that's
Speaker 2: like in a movie, right that that you know, this
Speaker 2: is this is all part of a plot. This is acting,
Speaker 2: because how's this guy out there, the best player on
Speaker 2: the court, can't miss his shot, looks like he drank
Speaker 2: and shugged a beer at the time out break, but
Speaker 2: he's throwing dimes behind the back like visually, yeah, they
Speaker 2: don't look like they'd be super talented, but like they
Speaker 2: get it done. And Luca was that way. And by
Speaker 2: the way, who's the best player in the in the
Speaker 2: NBA for the last few years? I mean a joke.
Speaker 2: Look at him, he looks like he just I mean,
Speaker 2: he looks like he just did a shift on the
Speaker 2: assembly line and he, you know, got a few beers
Speaker 2: at the bar after work with the buddies, and now
Speaker 2: he's gonna go play some you know, full court. Like
Speaker 2: appearance shouldn't matter, man, production matters, and basketball.
Speaker 4: Is so un interesting to him too. It seems like
Speaker 4: it is like his third.
Speaker 2: So do you so do you like that about him?
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't I don't necessarily, you know, I
Speaker 4: don't feel any other way the same way.
Speaker 2: I don't care at all, But I think it is kind.
Speaker 4: Of cool though, how he's just like, he just wins
Speaker 4: a championship and he's like, can I just go.
Speaker 2: Yes, Well, because I think I can certainly appreciate what
Speaker 2: you see is what you get, and I think everything
Speaker 2: about that is genuine. So I find it, you know,
Speaker 2: kind of you know, I think it's more of a
Speaker 2: positive as far as how I view him as a star.
Speaker 2: He's clearly not a me guy, very very selfless, and
Speaker 2: you know that's admirable. But there are some that have
Speaker 2: a different I think people just kind of want to
Speaker 2: hate him because he's not he's not. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: fun to watch, but in a different way fund if
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like a fundamental Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: He's like Tim Duncan but better. So they look at
Speaker 2: that as well. He should understand that, you know, he's
Speaker 2: he's the NBA's best player, like he should. There's a
Speaker 2: lot that comes with that, and to just ignore it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've had some arguments with friends who just
Speaker 2: think it's a bad look for him to act that way,
Speaker 2: and I hear you what you mean, But I just
Speaker 2: think that's who he is. And I could never acknowledge
Speaker 2: somebody for just being transparent. But then there's others who
Speaker 2: claim it's more of like a and this is where
Speaker 2: I totally disagree. I mean, I could be wrong. I
Speaker 2: don't know him, but those that claim that's a forced
Speaker 2: thing that he just does to try to look like
Speaker 2: he's too cool, I don't think there's no way, because
Speaker 2: he doesn't care what you like. He's he'd be fine
Speaker 2: if he never was in front of a camera again. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he just just wants to race his horses. Bro
Speaker 2: exactly exactly, And I love seeing the videos of him
Speaker 2: when his brothers, Oh, I mean yeah, his brothers are
Speaker 2: like reinforce mafia members. I know.
Speaker 4: I'm sure they know where bodies are buried. I'm pretty
Speaker 4: sure they've given a couple people pair of cement boots,
Speaker 4: if you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they look like guys that you could tell me.
Speaker 2: You could tell me anything that they've done, and I
Speaker 2: probably would say, yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 4: And they're always like chirping at other Yeah. If he
Speaker 4: gets in like a like a skirmish with them, which
Speaker 4: sometimes I could see, like, how are they still allowed
Speaker 4: at games? But who's gonna tell them?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Exactly Who's gonna be the one to tell them to
Speaker 2: stand down? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean, you guys gotta go.
Speaker 2: So it's like whenever Lebron and Wade weren't on the
Speaker 2: same team and Gabrielle Union would heckle Lebron like playfully,
Speaker 2: you know, because they're friends. Like you ain't doing that
Speaker 2: with the Jogis brothers, no, Like you're not taking a risk, like,
Speaker 2: you know, if they're out there giving you hell, you're
Speaker 2: not going to think it's a joke. You're probably gonna
Speaker 2: call witness Protection or something like there's some scary, scary dudes. Now,
Speaker 2: this is what's wild about Luca because I this confirms
Speaker 2: for sure that there was no scenario he was trying
Speaker 2: to get out of Dallas. And I don't think anybody
Speaker 2: did think that he's wanting to leave. But Chandler Parsons,
Speaker 2: who played with Luca, I believe early in his time
Speaker 2: in Dallas. He now works for FanDuel TV and has
Speaker 2: a show, and he's close to Luca, sounds like, and
Speaker 2: he said that he cried when he found out he
Speaker 2: was being traded, and that he just bought a fifteen
Speaker 2: million dollar house in Dallas like last week. So I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't have a ton of sympathy for him as
Speaker 2: far as like his life, because my man is doing
Speaker 2: a lot better than most. But yeah, I mean, not ideal,
Speaker 2: not ideal at all. All Right, we got to run
Speaker 2: one hour in the books. Can I believe how quickly
Speaker 2: that went by? That's what she said. We got two
Speaker 2: more hours to go, though. We'll finish strong, at least
Speaker 2: we'll try. We'll give you what you got, what we
Speaker 2: got thanks to my friends at the louisvill Men's Clinic.
Speaker 2: I feel pretty good about our ability to be able
Speaker 2: to finish strong here, so right, stick around right here
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