Speaker 1: Well, here we are. We're back, happy Monday. Back missed
Speaker 1: a week, we had a week off.
Speaker 2: All welcome in.
Speaker 1: John Here at UFL Week five recap, mid season review.
Speaker 2: I think we'll do that today.
Speaker 1: We have TV ratings from Friday as well as attendance.
Speaker 1: I think Mike Mitchell I'll pull up his article here
Speaker 1: in a little bit. Lots to talk about John.
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm great.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think by far we talked about it
Speaker 4: this weekend. I think the have finally found their offense.
Speaker 4: This was by far the best week of football we
Speaker 4: saw on the field. I mean, now, granted San Antonio
Speaker 4: Houston wasn't great, but man, those other three games, those
Speaker 4: were world beaters.
Speaker 3: That was incredible.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I I was out all weekend, but I did
Speaker 1: spend all day today.
Speaker 2: I got to work the rest of the week. But
Speaker 2: I said, went on.
Speaker 1: I recapped everything because it was crazy and I was
Speaker 1: like tracking everything and.
Speaker 2: I'm just putting up a comments here kind of as
Speaker 2: we talk.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, I would see in the group
Speaker 1: chat like I didn't even know, like the defense, you know,
Speaker 1: went to overtime.
Speaker 2: And kind of all this stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pat says the intro sounds like everything she does
Speaker 1: is magic. Hey, we got copyrights stricken for my Slene
Speaker 1: dal line whatever, So.
Speaker 3: Like, don't you feel bad now?
Speaker 1: Well I was kind of mad to be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's what you know, the eighteen cents or whatever is
Speaker 1: going back to whatever publishing. But anyway, we're here today, Yes, John,
Speaker 1: not to be the fanboy, but the without of do
Speaker 1: the best weekend of football here. Lots to talk about.
Speaker 1: We had the way Phillips and all that when I
Speaker 1: was gone, I was in Vegas.
Speaker 2: We'll figure out next week. I'm not quite sure yet.
Speaker 1: We can talk after whatever, but overall, I guess we'll
Speaker 1: do the deep dive of the weekend. We'll talk through
Speaker 1: the season, but just overall, grade grade the weekend and
Speaker 1: kind of grade where we are thus far here Monday,
Speaker 1: April twenty eight.
Speaker 4: I grade on a curve because of what we saw
Speaker 4: the first four weeks.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Mean, to me, this was an a like if you
Speaker 4: if you know, you can take away whatever you want
Speaker 4: to with San Antonio and Houston. But I mean, Jaylen
Speaker 4: McClendon was pretty fun to watch, so I mean, it
Speaker 4: wasn't a It might not have been a great game,
Speaker 4: but I think that was a great win for Houston.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not sure that they're gonna their post
Speaker 4: season material, but still, I just think when you look
Speaker 4: at the game, the it's stunning upset for Memphis. We
Speaker 4: saw an overtime and you know, an overtime game. It
Speaker 4: was fun. Saint Louis doing work DC with an historic comeback.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's an a for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, and we also have the whole Samson Nukua right, like, well,
Speaker 1: there's that interaction we'll talk about. Yeah, we have like
Speaker 1: national spotlight all that I was thinking too, And I
Speaker 1: think it was Abdul that said after the show, you know,
Speaker 1: two weeks ago. At this point, you know, John and
Speaker 1: Reid it really like the Angel and the deep, like
Speaker 1: the devil kind of on this show.
Speaker 2: But I will agree this week.
Speaker 1: But it did make me think because when I went
Speaker 1: to Gonzaga, when I got my broadcast degree, famously, two
Speaker 1: things if I ever win like a you know, a
Speaker 1: you know, an Emmy for a short animated series about
Speaker 1: spring football in eighty years or whatever, the two famous
Speaker 1: things about me was I made a meatloaf music video
Speaker 1: my junior year. That was my big junior year project,
Speaker 1: I did an eleven minute music video too. I would
Speaker 1: do anything for love, but I want to that let
Speaker 1: meet Love rip.
Speaker 2: But then senior year I did and it was.
Speaker 1: A play on the odd couple and it was called
Speaker 1: the God Couple, and it was at Gonzaga and an
Speaker 1: angel and the son of the devil lived together at Gonzaga.
Speaker 2: John. It was the whole series. I think we did
Speaker 2: like seven episodes.
Speaker 1: I blew up a dorm fictitiously in the series, like
Speaker 1: I licensed special effects and we got like my teacher goes,
Speaker 1: so security has called the broadcast department like why are
Speaker 1: we supposedly.
Speaker 2: Like blow it? We it was a big deal. It
Speaker 2: was a big deal.
Speaker 1: We made this most like yeah, anyway, it was a
Speaker 1: big deal.
Speaker 2: So but that made me think of us. So I
Speaker 2: appreciate that job that I do.
Speaker 1: I think we give two and I we kind of
Speaker 1: went into this not planning, but I think we have
Speaker 1: kind of I think we have a good chemistry that way.
Speaker 1: Let me say, I think you're a little bit more optimistic.
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit more pestimistic.
Speaker 2: So there we go.
Speaker 3: Well that's the end and the yang of this podcast.
Speaker 3: It worked. It totally works.
Speaker 2: It totally works.
Speaker 1: So let's talk first off real quick here, Let's see
Speaker 1: can I share this just before we you know, we
Speaker 1: always talked through the ratings and everything here for the weekend.
Speaker 2: Did I get this right?
Speaker 1: There we go Friday night UFL average four hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty seven thousand viewers on Fox up against right the
Speaker 1: NFL Draft.
Speaker 2: I forgot to make that joke as well.
Speaker 1: I made that to my father in law the other
Speaker 1: day that we were gonna be able to start this
Speaker 1: podcast John until shoot Or Sanders got drafted.
Speaker 2: So he got drafted.
Speaker 1: You know, I was told, we knew the floor was
Speaker 1: here for the Friday nights at six hundred thousand. This
Speaker 1: is not great again, obviously the NFL draft. Any other takeaways,
Speaker 1: I don't know if we want a deep dive or
Speaker 1: maybe we do, or do you just say that this
Speaker 1: is the asterisk and we move on to next week.
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's interesting that at the start of
Speaker 4: this game eight oh seven to eight fourteen, the game
Speaker 4: peaked at six hundred eighty one thousand. I don't know
Speaker 4: what the lead into that was on Foxes. I guess
Speaker 4: it was just fringed local programming. But either way. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we really thought that the floor was six hundred thousand,
Speaker 4: and when you see four hundred and sixty seven thousand,
Speaker 4: no matter what, you can talk about competition, that's fine
Speaker 4: with but this is on network television. Network television kind
Speaker 4: of is a catch off for everyone, not just hardcourt
Speaker 4: sports fans. So that was pretty rough. And I think
Speaker 4: people who were watching that early were probably I'm not
Speaker 4: sure I want to watch it after, you know, fourteen
Speaker 4: minutes of this thing, So that's that's too bad.
Speaker 2: Well, just to and we'll do the games here.
Speaker 1: We talk about this obviously, the attendance and everything, but
Speaker 1: holy god, like that battle Hawks game felt so hot,
Speaker 1: you know, just in even trying to catch up today
Speaker 1: and rewatching and seeing the clips league posting and watching
Speaker 1: the highlights on YouTube and everything else, like it just
Speaker 1: it makes such a difference, and that game felt That
Speaker 1: game had a vitriol to it. It felt like right
Speaker 1: And obviously we saw that spill out on the fields afterward,
Speaker 1: right when we get to all that, but it just
Speaker 1: it just there is that intangibility and so when you
Speaker 1: when you do the game on Friday, right, it was
Speaker 1: in Birmingham, I think it was eight well, we have
Speaker 1: Mike's attendance and we'll pull up your eight the eight
Speaker 1: thousand or whatever I think it was on that. It
Speaker 1: just I would see having it switched to that and
Speaker 1: that not immediately drawing my attention. I think if we
Speaker 1: do this again next season, I think we really need
Speaker 1: to evaluate those Fridays.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so there's something needs to be done there.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's like.
Speaker 4: And you know, you tune in and again people have
Speaker 4: gotten on me about we talked too much about attendance
Speaker 4: and we talked too much about ratings. But it's it's
Speaker 4: kind of what I said. I made this this comment. Uh,
Speaker 4: when someone was taking me to task on this was like,
Speaker 4: it's like a restaurant, you can we said, well, why
Speaker 4: don't you guys talk about the gameplay?
Speaker 3: The gameplay is good.
Speaker 4: It's like, okay, well, if you got a restaurant it's
Speaker 4: got great food, but no one's coming in, then you
Speaker 4: got to figure out, like what's the problem here?
Speaker 3: Is it your location? You know what is it? So?
Speaker 4: Uh but yeah, that's that four hundred thousand. Was that
Speaker 4: that's concerning I that was that's tough, and you're right
Speaker 4: Fox to me, I still felt like Fox could have
Speaker 4: made this a bigger thing. We had talked about that
Speaker 4: before the season. I kind of wish they'd made a
Speaker 4: little more special.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just hard.
Speaker 1: Uh. I also think that it's it's just father that
Speaker 1: people talk about. I mean to look at this shit
Speaker 1: you or Sanders stuff with the draft, Like there's just
Speaker 1: certain things that that people gravity towards more to talk about,
Speaker 1: and no one's talking about you know, Dresser Wan or whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, his his our performance. Uh, you know, we
Speaker 1: might try to talk about attendance or kind of anything else.
Speaker 1: So I think that that kind of goes into this. Well,
Speaker 1: I think we've learned that. Let's pull up real quick
Speaker 1: here just and we'll kind of round out the conversation.
Speaker 1: Mike Mitchell posted over on UFL news sub which I
Speaker 1: did see Mark Perry got not be Mark Parry, but
Speaker 1: Mark Perry got cut from the Patriots. I had to
Speaker 1: tweet at the UFL news stub damn. Obviously not the
Speaker 1: Saint Mark, but he appreciate it anyway. Over on UFL
Speaker 1: newstub dot com. First, I kind of you know, Mike's
Speaker 1: first bite here your first half of the season, I
Speaker 1: UFL incremental six.
Speaker 2: Percent er point six percent increase year every year.
Speaker 1: We did it, John, We have it down here. This
Speaker 1: is a week five week five average fifteen thou one
Speaker 1: hundred in Birmingham. Yeah, I knew it wasn't quite that twelve.
Speaker 1: They normally put out thirty in Saint Louis and then
Speaker 1: Arlington and San Antonio. Excuse me, not a great San
Speaker 1: Antonio game. And then also not a great reward for
Speaker 1: them to wait till week five to get a home game.
Speaker 1: We'll talk through all that, but anything stand out attendance
Speaker 1: here and this at the point six percent we've moved up.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, any increase is good, I guess, but
Speaker 4: the fourteen thousand in San Antonio, that's a good sign.
Speaker 4: I'll and I'll tell you why because you brought up
Speaker 4: a really good point. Before the season started, we talked
Speaker 4: about what happens that they have to wait till the
Speaker 4: midway point of the season to get their first home game,
Speaker 4: and maybe this team's not very good, like how many
Speaker 4: people are going to show up? But what we found
Speaker 4: out is Brahmas fans did show up for this game.
Speaker 4: They finally you know, it was the first home game.
Speaker 4: The question is how many people are going to show
Speaker 4: up for the second home game if this continues, because
Speaker 4: when you get housed by Houston, you got problems. And
Speaker 4: I thought that this was a team that was going
Speaker 4: to be on the rise because of that win at
Speaker 4: DC and you know, everything just seemed to be clicking
Speaker 4: and everybody was on this the Peyton party badwagon. I
Speaker 4: was too, and then this egg gets laid. So that's tough.
Speaker 4: But the good news is fourteen thousand people did wait
Speaker 4: till the five weeks and did show up for the game.
Speaker 1: A couple of things that not to be the pessimist,
Speaker 1: but it is. You know, it is easy to front
Speaker 1: load these games, right like, hey, first home game, first
Speaker 1: time first and whatever, you know, and then we do that,
Speaker 1: you know, because they've had all these announcements, if I
Speaker 1: you know, they have the mascot announcement, and you know,
Speaker 1: they've been able to kind of push this.
Speaker 2: But you know, God bless them for doing that.
Speaker 1: I just to me, it's tough right now, you know
Speaker 1: in Texas and I know that all these leagues compete whatever,
Speaker 1: but like you got the Dallas Stars in the you know,
Speaker 1: in the NHL playoffs. I'm like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm san Antonio, like you know in my tracking MBA,
Speaker 1: do I care? Like, I don't know, it's just a
Speaker 1: weird sports demographic. And even when I've gone there for
Speaker 1: work last I think it was like August September, I
Speaker 1: talked with like my Uber drivers and people like, so.
Speaker 2: Do you watch spring football here?
Speaker 1: Like you know, not trying to be the mark, but
Speaker 1: like what do you do in San Antonio?
Speaker 2: Do you watch this? Do you want to be considered that?
Speaker 2: So it's a tough market.
Speaker 1: I feel good for the fourteen whatever one thousand, but
Speaker 1: I agree they got to you know, getting trounced by
Speaker 1: Houston isn't a great I look for your first.
Speaker 4: Game well, and I will say too, we say this
Speaker 4: every week. Fourteen thousand people were not there. Thirty thousand
Speaker 4: people were not in Saint Louis. Again, this is tickets distributed.
Speaker 4: But there were certain angles in that San Antonio game
Speaker 4: where sometimes it looked like it was sparse and other
Speaker 4: times it looked like there were a bunch of people.
Speaker 4: So I don't know where they were sitting in regards
Speaker 4: to where the camera placements were, but it still was
Speaker 4: a good crowd no matter what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the uh, the album. Doome is like the biggest
Speaker 2: state it It's.
Speaker 3: Just like a massive again.
Speaker 1: Terrible and uh the funniest thing years. God, this was
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, and I think when TNA was competed
Speaker 1: against WWE and they ran an Alamo Dome show and
Speaker 1: I always remember the screenshot of like the seeding chart
Speaker 1: and it was like, you know, the top right corner and.
Speaker 2: Like, I mean, just you know, Okay, I guess we
Speaker 2: can go in.
Speaker 1: These two doors. Like, hey, but you played the Alamo Dome,
Speaker 1: you know, now, should you have done either or not?
Speaker 2: A couple of comments here where did you have something
Speaker 2: before you?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: No, I was gonna I cover. Here's how old I am.
Speaker 4: I covered the nineteen ninety eight final four there. I
Speaker 4: think it was ninety eight Final four. So if you
Speaker 4: think of football, you know, or or something like that
Speaker 4: looks small, wait till you put this. It looks like
Speaker 4: a postage stamp, you know, basketball court.
Speaker 3: In the middle of the thing. It's just you know,
Speaker 3: they do that with every Final four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they put in the basketball last year. Was it
Speaker 1: somewhere in Texas or one of those places it was?
Speaker 1: Didn't they put some in Jerry World or somewhere.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, they did. They had n cuaa tournament at
Speaker 4: Jerry World. They've done you know, they do it at
Speaker 4: Lucas you know, Lucas Oil almost every year, like the
Speaker 4: at least you know, a regional or a final four.
Speaker 4: And I covered in Houston at whatever it's called now
Speaker 4: NRG Stadium or whatever it was. I mean still, it's
Speaker 4: just it's incredible when you see when you're in this
Speaker 4: gigantic dome and you see a you know, a basketball
Speaker 4: floor the court in the middle, it does it looks
Speaker 4: like a posted stamp.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was kind of like and we can talk Vegas
Speaker 1: at the end if anyone wants to talk Vegas or WrestleMania.
Speaker 1: I didnt get back from WrestleMania, but it was like, yes,
Speaker 1: it was also like.
Speaker 2: Watching wrestling at Allegiant Stadium.
Speaker 1: And I posted my because like spoiler alert, like I
Speaker 1: had pretty good seats and I was pretty happy with
Speaker 1: them for what I paid. You know, you post a
Speaker 1: photo and everyone's like, well, you're watching ants you go
Speaker 1: fall stand, I mean they got I'm seeing the I
Speaker 1: mean unless you're the first ten rows that I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just how it is.
Speaker 2: A couple of comments here, I I got.
Speaker 1: The one that I have to hear some about, uh oh,
Speaker 1: some about the twilight out here we go, isn't it
Speaker 1: We're Houston and Memphis when the twilight?
Speaker 3: Is that ever going to happen again the rest of
Speaker 3: the season.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for that. Yes, Scott here, both of you
Speaker 1: make UFLA so much fun. I appreciate that great. I
Speaker 1: assume Mike here out for the ratings, Michael here, it
Speaker 1: was exciting for you. It was by the weekend and
Speaker 1: then just a couple and I agree with all this.
Speaker 1: This year, Scott, they need to started the weeknd season earlier.
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, I agree because now, I mean
Speaker 1: this is a whole Temple week. I mean it's all
Speaker 1: the time, it's every week or something. But you know,
Speaker 1: now you got the Stanley Cup playoffs and kind of
Speaker 1: everything else. I do give credit where it's do ESPN
Speaker 1: red hello ufl ads during their draft coverage, Abdul saying,
Speaker 1: I'll say asterisk Friday night, a lintialle draft rains were
Speaker 1: up forty percent.
Speaker 2: I agree with all that.
Speaker 3: That's a good call.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then this was just with you and we'll
Speaker 2: get to the games.
Speaker 1: I promise it's not because the attendance numbers are higher,
Speaker 1: but she needs some more empty seats.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, I think they're picking up. I'm like,
Speaker 2: let's just hand out some more tickets.
Speaker 1: Let's just go strim me them out. We'll just say
Speaker 1: I got five hundred tickets. I'm going to go down
Speaker 1: to the ball I'm going to give them out. I'm
Speaker 1: going to go door to the door. I saw someone
Speaker 1: the other day, like our nest camera rang. Someone was
Speaker 1: like taking a photo of our house.
Speaker 2: I'm like, are you are you coming back to try.
Speaker 1: To buy I don't you know, just go hand out stuff,
Speaker 1: just go sure, Hey, I handled all this stuff. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go. The all football digest hums couldn't get
Speaker 1: you four uh no, and uh knowing what I spent
Speaker 1: and then hearing what other people spent for us many tickets.
Speaker 1: They had an interview with Randy Orton where fans said
Speaker 1: that they spent thirty thousand dollars on tickets, so it
Speaker 1: was their first Oh my god, Yeah, I knew a guy,
Speaker 1: or I knew a guy. I talked to a guy
Speaker 1: at the airport. They spent sixty five hundred and their
Speaker 1: ticket broker came up with nothing, so like, I mean, wow,
Speaker 1: it's uh yeah, it gets crazy, but yeah no, no,
Speaker 1: the All Football Ties ups did not get on that.
Speaker 2: So let's go here. First off, did I do this right? Yes?
Speaker 2: We will go to week.
Speaker 1: Five, Friday night here at the Memphis show Boats upset
Speaker 1: the Birmingham Stallions at home. I thought, excuse me, I
Speaker 1: thought this was a great win. I uh texted you,
Speaker 1: I go, I think dresser win on a random Friday
Speaker 1: night in Birmingham. It's like already, like I called him,
Speaker 1: big dick, dresser Win.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can swing that thing around in Memphis.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you would hit too many fans
Speaker 1: in Birmingham a few more, John, this was a great game.
Speaker 1: I mean Birmingham had two losses on the year. Did
Speaker 1: they lose last week when I was in WrestleMania.
Speaker 3: Trying to remember that last loss?
Speaker 1: Was it's all come up with, James, what did you
Speaker 1: mean this? This was a great one. I was very exciting,
Speaker 1: came down to you know, came down the end.
Speaker 4: It was you know what was incredible. It's like it
Speaker 4: was eleven nothing at one Well, yeah, the first quarter,
Speaker 4: I'm like, wait a minute, what is going on, and
Speaker 4: as we all had suspected in their future, Odds had
Speaker 4: the longest play from scrimmage was we know, okay, oh
Speaker 4: there you go, there you go.
Speaker 2: I've been gone like two weeks and this is like.
Speaker 4: I couldn't I barely remember. But yeah, I mean, as
Speaker 4: we all had in our futures, Odds, the longest play
Speaker 4: from scrimmage was Dresser Win to Dee Anderson. That was
Speaker 4: going to be the longest play from scrimmage in the UFL.
Speaker 4: But man, you know he it was when I saw
Speaker 4: that Dresser Wind was going to be the starting quarterback
Speaker 4: and like, okay, well this is just desperation.
Speaker 3: They're just gonna try anything.
Speaker 4: But uh, you know our guy Pat Raffino, analyze and educated,
Speaker 4: who's always in the comments here, he's been on Dresser
Speaker 4: Win for a while, and I thought he played a
Speaker 4: tremendous game. And it was just so funny that they
Speaker 4: went in overtime and they are like, oh you know,
Speaker 4: and Jenny Taft I think she was doing sidelines is
Speaker 4: Dresser win And you could not tell if he had
Speaker 4: won the game or lost the game. Uh, he was
Speaker 4: kind of glib, and he was, you know, very calm,
Speaker 4: but man, it's just it is incredible to see like
Speaker 4: what what Memphis did. Now, are they going to the postseason?
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: But also Birmingham kind of shot themselves in the foot.
Speaker 4: There was some really bad miscommunication with the coaching staff
Speaker 4: on a super challenge. That is just there were a
Speaker 4: lot of things that were unstallions like. But I don't
Speaker 4: want to take anything away from the way Memphis really
Speaker 4: showed up and played at Birmingham.
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean it looked like a totally different team.
Speaker 1: I mean really it was fun.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: I mean that's when we talked about the top with
Speaker 1: these TV ratings and everyone and turn them on and
Speaker 1: you know, you got to have some action here going
Speaker 1: and hey Memphis, immediately we got kick returns and putting
Speaker 1: up it just it just was, uh, it's really what
Speaker 1: you want the UFL to be, I think, not to
Speaker 1: be uh, not to be in the total shill here
Speaker 1: for the UFL. Now, here's a good point, jud Jackson,
Speaker 1: And when had the advantage of being in an unknown
Speaker 1: See you get that in the CFL all the time
Speaker 1: where they'll play who was that we had the dustin Crumb,
Speaker 1: We had like Crumb sanity, and it was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I think I think it took like two
Speaker 1: or three weeks and then the CFL defense is.
Speaker 2: Really shut him down, you know, so we'll see I mean.
Speaker 1: The backup quarterback or the third string or what you know,
Speaker 1: it's always a favorite until you.
Speaker 2: Know you well go for it.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you're right about that. But the
Speaker 4: good thing for this and for Dresser Win is this
Speaker 4: is a very short season. They are only five games left.
Speaker 4: It's a ten game season. It's gonna it's gonna take
Speaker 4: these guys some time to figure these things out. But
Speaker 4: it is a good point. He came in as an
Speaker 4: unknown and they really didn't know, you know, what his
Speaker 4: total skill set was. And they also probably weren't prepared
Speaker 4: for a kick six from Isaiah Handy.
Speaker 3: That went hundred and eight yards either.
Speaker 1: Uh, but you know, no excited that. What did you
Speaker 1: think of kiss Cookus? I found it was funny they
Speaker 1: were talking, and you know, I was thinking about this
Speaker 1: as well. And if I was Kiss Cucus, I would
Speaker 1: probably hate the UFL.
Speaker 2: They made him get married.
Speaker 1: I'm broken leg and then I forgot The next year
Speaker 1: he came back and then he lost his wedding ring
Speaker 1: playing the usfl right, and now he you know, now
Speaker 1: he's with the Stallions, and I mean, like god, I mean,
Speaker 1: can this guy catch your break?
Speaker 2: How did the how's case cook Us do for this end?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 4: I felt like he struggled there. I mean he kind
Speaker 4: he started to look like Case cook Us a little
Speaker 4: bit more in the fourth quarter. But you know by
Speaker 4: that time you don't let you don't let Dresser win
Speaker 4: and Memphis hang around.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think he struggled a little bit. You could.
Speaker 4: There was a lot of frustration from skip Holtz, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, with cook Us and and with that offense,
Speaker 4: and rightfully so yeah, I mean you're looking there at
Speaker 4: the stats.
Speaker 3: I mean it was those stats.
Speaker 4: You know, on paper it looks all right, but you
Speaker 4: know then you look up at Dresser Win there, you know,
Speaker 4: two hundred and thirty five yards. It was Yeah, there
Speaker 4: was a lot of frustration from skip Holtz, and I
Speaker 4: we've seen we've seen a little bit.
Speaker 3: More of that.
Speaker 4: It felt like this season so far, in the first
Speaker 4: five games, but it was like really like at a
Speaker 4: head there in the in this fifth game.
Speaker 1: You think that skip Holtz is seeing like all these
Speaker 1: other worst quarterbacks get jaw or not quarterbacks other worst
Speaker 1: like coaches in coordinated and I'm not worth but like
Speaker 1: ones that have had less success than the UFL than him,
Speaker 1: get all of these wonderful johnted these skips just like
Speaker 1: that my life here.
Speaker 3: I gotta like, what did I do? But yeah, but
Speaker 3: you know it. They're Memphis.
Speaker 4: Memphis did make some mistakes in this game, but Birmingham
Speaker 4: just felt like they never they never took advantage. It
Speaker 4: just it they just I don't this could This was
Speaker 4: probably an anomaly for for for Birmingham. But but yeah,
Speaker 4: you're right, and you gotta think skip Holtz is sitting
Speaker 4: there saying, look, look, you know, I'm just supposed to
Speaker 4: be the favorite. We're supposed to be the favorite. And
Speaker 4: this happens at home and and of course, you know,
Speaker 4: a lower crowd and people it's like, oh, well, there
Speaker 4: are the thunderstorms in the area. It's like, okay, this
Speaker 4: is going to happen in spring and Alabama. How many
Speaker 4: times can we start using that excuse? Well, there were
Speaker 4: thunderstorms over this. I even said something about it one week.
Speaker 4: So enough, like you show up for this team and
Speaker 4: watched them win they've delivered you three championships.
Speaker 2: Now I'll come and then I got a couple of
Speaker 2: you here. We'll get to that as well.
Speaker 1: Crowds of Birmingham offenses by far the most inconsistent they've
Speaker 1: been the last four years.
Speaker 4: Grid Iron Coasters, well, no question. And they've had quarterback
Speaker 4: issues too. It's like, you know, you had Kraal getting
Speaker 4: hurt and Magoo getting hurt, yet case cook is coming
Speaker 4: in call it yeah, but.
Speaker 3: You're right, that is true.
Speaker 1: And here with Joe Cuckis has cubedilias diehards wanted to
Speaker 1: prinees pretend he's Jesus. Well, that was a lot of
Speaker 1: their offense with him scrambled and getting blown up like
Speaker 1: he always does, Oh my god, like lay down, like
Speaker 1: just go, you know, I mean that was the fear
Speaker 1: of that. I mean, as as some of the had
Speaker 1: Jane Daniels, oh my god, he's gonna.
Speaker 2: Run and get blow up. Cuckas is out there just getting.
Speaker 4: The offensive line in Memphis last year was horrific. And
Speaker 4: that's why I was surprised number one that he came back,
Speaker 4: and number two it was Birmingham, and even there, I
Speaker 4: think it was in that broadcast that they said that
Speaker 4: when he talked to Skepolsi, He's like, listen, I you
Speaker 4: know you can come here. You're not going to start,
Speaker 4: but uh, it just felt like case Cooks could probably
Speaker 4: start for a lot of teams. Now, would he want
Speaker 4: to go to Houston? Probably not, but uh, yeah, but
Speaker 4: you're right. I'm just kind of surprised that he came back.
Speaker 1: Delius says, did you not know, John, when it rains
Speaker 1: in Birmingham, the people in their body mouths sugar.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I know we talked a lot about the Birmingham Attendants
Speaker 1: and all that, but yeah, I mean, I it's like, God,
Speaker 1: it's your ful.
Speaker 2: I just don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know some of these It's it's hard. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's I don't know. We talked all about this. I
Speaker 1: think the USFL did demonstrable and unrepaarable damage to some
Speaker 1: of these markets, and it's, uh, it's kind of confusing
Speaker 1: to me. King any comments on that. Let me see
Speaker 1: what King William pass here. No.
Speaker 3: I think you're right.
Speaker 4: I think there's gonna have to be some some tough
Speaker 4: conversations here after the season.
Speaker 3: And maybe Birmingham is part of that.
Speaker 4: Conversation, but obviously, yeah, Memphis and Houston there there's gonna
Speaker 4: have to be some talks. And you know, we talk
Speaker 4: a lot about expansion because you know what that that
Speaker 4: cranks it out and gets interest.
Speaker 3: As it should because it's something new.
Speaker 4: But I also think that you've got to shore up
Speaker 4: what's gonna happen with these other two teams, and and
Speaker 4: you know, maybe it's more of relocation than expansion in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: Real quick.
Speaker 1: And so the CFL announced last Monday sometime their new commissioner,
Speaker 1: what's his name, Stuart.
Speaker 2: Johnson, right, And you know there had been.
Speaker 1: Long i mean shoot for since Team nine and you know,
Speaker 1: since all the other teams and everything have come and
Speaker 1: the CFL has have people move and you know, like
Speaker 1: there was two rough riders.
Speaker 2: For a while.
Speaker 1: I'm afure you know more about the CFL history than
Speaker 1: I do. But he came out first off and said
Speaker 1: expansion was not a priority to him to get to
Speaker 1: ten teams at all, that he wanted to shore up,
Speaker 1: listen to the markets, talk to the teams, talk to
Speaker 1: the staff, talk to the you know a lot of
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But he said expansion was not
Speaker 1: anywhere near the top of the list for him. Obviously,
Speaker 1: UFL is in a different many different things. But like,
Speaker 1: I think you need to come up a place of
Speaker 1: strength if you want to expand, and not if you
Speaker 1: looked at the CFL back in the eighties, you know
Speaker 1: they expanded to the US out of desperation. I think
Speaker 1: you want to expand, you know, look at the NFL,
Speaker 1: or we're expanding because we have all this to offer
Speaker 1: that oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: We need franchise money or we need more. You know,
Speaker 2: we got to get people involved in this.
Speaker 4: The Birmingham mad Dogs and the Baltimore Stables. Actually the
Speaker 4: Baltimore Stallions won a Great Cup so that that actually
Speaker 4: did work out for the US part, not so much
Speaker 4: for the Canadian part. But but yeah, you're right. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know you talked about this, and we've talked about
Speaker 4: this before with expansion, is you want to show signs
Speaker 4: of growth. But to do that, you, like you said,
Speaker 4: some of these weaker franchises and markets.
Speaker 3: We got to figure this out.
Speaker 1: A couple of just quick comments here, I don't want
Speaker 1: to do too deep dive on the attendance. Well, we'll
Speaker 1: finish the Stallions game here in the little move one.
Speaker 1: It's convenient thing for me. Cities where you're struggling, why
Speaker 1: don't you bring the Rock in? Well, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: right now, if you're coming out to WrestleMania, the Rock
Speaker 1: is persona non grap right now. And I think people
Speaker 1: I think the rock stock is is at least in
Speaker 1: the realm of like we my mom, I would you know,
Speaker 1: my mom is like a casual, I would say, in
Speaker 1: the realm of people that follow the Rock and his
Speaker 1: trying to take over after WrestleMania and he wasn't there
Speaker 1: and then it was all my idea.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to.
Speaker 1: Like, rock Stock is very low right now. I think
Speaker 1: the UFL is probably better just utilizing Fox and ESPN
Speaker 1: talent to work on that right now. Greg Parks has
Speaker 1: said that a lot. I don't think the Rocks made
Speaker 1: a difference, and especially not right now.
Speaker 4: Well, and I also wonder too, like if he's not
Speaker 4: involved right now, like is he going to be involved
Speaker 4: next year? Because you look at fifty percent of this
Speaker 4: league is owned by him, Danny Garcia and Redbird Capital,
Speaker 4: so they're they're part owners of fifty percent, Like is
Speaker 4: he going to drop? And you know, I don't know
Speaker 4: how they've split that up, you know, between themselves for
Speaker 4: that half. Uh, But yeah, I do. I do wonder
Speaker 4: about the future of the ownership in the whole league.
Speaker 2: And then the last thing here, John Johnson.
Speaker 1: There's always rumors of a buyer from MPIs the whole time,
Speaker 1: and it's never like this what And I'm not uh
Speaker 1: critiquing Mike Mitchell's reporting that, you know, the people that
Speaker 1: they were trying. I'm sure they have all these intentions
Speaker 1: to do whatever, but like it's in the pot. We've
Speaker 1: talked about this before. What are you buying with the
Speaker 1: Memphis show boats? Like what I mean, what is There's nothing,
Speaker 1: There's nothing to buy.
Speaker 4: It's like the whole it's the whole system. It's like
Speaker 4: if you're you know, the idea for the USFL in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, and maybe this is for the UFL
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five, was to franchise these out to owners.
Speaker 4: But what product you have right now there now if
Speaker 4: you're in Saint Louis, Yeah, maybe, but that's the outlier.
Speaker 3: You can't keep that.
Speaker 4: You can't keep comparing the entire league and trying to
Speaker 4: hang it on Saint Louis.
Speaker 2: Okay, I just feel any other commentary now, let's move on.
Speaker 2: Anything else.
Speaker 1: You have anything else with Birmingham, anything with that, we
Speaker 1: want to touch you before we get to.
Speaker 2: The big you know, the big brawl. But anything else
Speaker 2: from this game.
Speaker 4: Uh No, I mean I I think Birmingham they got
Speaker 4: to be kind of poised here for a bounce back
Speaker 4: because that this just felt like an anomaly. Some some
Speaker 4: Unburningham things happened in this game. So you know, we'll
Speaker 4: see how how they do bounce back from that.
Speaker 1: Well, and like I think even on the broadcast, Oh
Speaker 1: so you know, it's a short week. I'm like, all
Speaker 1: these teams and you're busting and you're flying and you're
Speaker 1: on the sand, Like I don't I don't know if
Speaker 1: playing on Friday, yors. Yes, I'm sure obviously you know
Speaker 1: it makes the difference. But I think that sometimes with that,
Speaker 1: let's get to so this and then we'll talk the
Speaker 1: game and then we'll talk the virality of it afterwards.
Speaker 1: But Ballocks come out here and this was this was
Speaker 1: a very high scoring game. This was a very contentious game.
Speaker 1: Max Duggan, it felt like just ran and ran and
Speaker 1: kept running and just would just run over people. I
Speaker 1: thought this was a tremendous game. I think people were
Speaker 1: saying the DC game might be game of the year.
Speaker 1: But for my money, I like this a lot.
Speaker 2: What was your What was your?
Speaker 3: I thought this was the best game of the season.
Speaker 3: I just think yeah.
Speaker 4: And some people might look at Max Duggan's passing line
Speaker 4: there and say like, oh, that, you know, what was that?
Speaker 4: But if you didn't watch that game, I mean you
Speaker 4: really missed out because he started to do things and
Speaker 4: the announcers even made, you know, made the comment, this
Speaker 4: is the TCU Max Duggan, Like, this is what we saw.
Speaker 4: This is why he was a Heisman runner up. I
Speaker 4: had questions after he replaced Manny Wilkins after Wilkins went
Speaker 4: out with the achilles injury, which is just still that
Speaker 4: just brutal. And he came in, he was a little
Speaker 4: bit shaky, he was under a lot of pressure pass rush.
Speaker 4: But then he comes out in this game against a
Speaker 4: very good Michigan team. I mean, there's no question Michigan
Speaker 4: is one of the classes of the of the USFL conference.
Speaker 4: And just what he did and what this Saint Louis
Speaker 4: BattleHawks team did and Michigan was going toe to toe.
Speaker 4: I really hope that this Bryce Perkins needs to say
Speaker 4: the starting quarterback, not the starting not just the starting quarterback,
Speaker 4: but this two quarterback systems got to go because man,
Speaker 4: Bryce Perkins was the man. He just kept answering the
Speaker 4: bell and answering the bell. And honestly, I think what
Speaker 4: lost this game was Mike Nolan putting in Danny Ettley,
Speaker 4: who who dearly who did throw an interception and nearly
Speaker 4: threw another one. So it's just but again, this was
Speaker 4: all Saint Louis like, this was this was some absolute
Speaker 4: you know, even breaking out the uh. I think it
Speaker 4: was like the you know, like kind of a half
Speaker 4: back pass. Uh, Hakeem Butler obviously makes this team, you know,
Speaker 4: one hundred percent better. Uh So I think that's what
Speaker 4: we really saw. We saw a full strength, confident team
Speaker 4: at home. And as you said, I mean, this was this,
Speaker 4: this was made for TV. This It's too bad this
Speaker 4: one wasn't at prime time.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to pull up my next thing here. Sorry
Speaker 2: it was pan defession.
Speaker 1: Uh no that uh and and I I hope ratings,
Speaker 1: you know, fall from this and top obviously going up
Speaker 1: against the Saturday.
Speaker 2: I I I like, I.
Speaker 1: Was looking at the standings here and obviously the BattleHawks
Speaker 1: won this game, but it felt to me like at
Speaker 1: some point the Panthers had one. I like the USFL Conference,
Speaker 1: like feeling like they matter a little bit.
Speaker 2: I like some of these teams, you know. I like
Speaker 2: the Panthers being good even if though they lost. I
Speaker 2: like them looking like they have some momentum there. Same
Speaker 2: with the show.
Speaker 1: But so that was kind of my takeaway at least,
Speaker 1: and that was, you know, the USFL Conference lost that
Speaker 1: one against the stallt or the BattleHawks Los Mallhawks, but
Speaker 1: I just liked them being relevant. I like Mike Nolan,
Speaker 1: he was good at the interview. I just there was
Speaker 1: a lot of this game to take away I.
Speaker 2: Thought was good.
Speaker 4: Uh and the broadcast takeaway from this other than you know,
Speaker 4: King Butler being a potty mouth, which was pretty funny.
Speaker 3: That was I laughed hard on that one. King Kim
Speaker 3: is right.
Speaker 4: But you know, with Mike Nolan on the headset well,
Speaker 4: although at the time Jacob Sailors was absolutely just ripping
Speaker 4: his defense, but he continued to talk to the announcers
Speaker 4: live Seneca Wallace when they were talking to him. As
Speaker 4: you know, Max Duggan was making his drive. It's like
Speaker 4: watching film room, except it's live, and it's just I
Speaker 4: just to me that aspect of the game, if they
Speaker 4: can get these coaches to do these things, is a
Speaker 4: lot more valuable as a viewer to me than when
Speaker 4: they run over and try to you know, talk to
Speaker 4: a player who's just come off the field. I mean
Speaker 4: that stuff is fun too, but to me, that's valuables
Speaker 4: as a viewer to hear those coaches and tell you
Speaker 4: what's going on. Or when they talk to the backup
Speaker 4: quarterback and he's starting to talk about, well, here's what
Speaker 4: we're going to do here, this is what he's looking for.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like it that's like some football one
Speaker 4: oh one stuff.
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: I was just going to say that that is my
Speaker 1: favorite thing when they have the backup quarterback there, because
Speaker 1: not only is it like also you're trying to get
Speaker 1: to kind of get these players known, right, So maybe
Speaker 1: you do have two quarterbacks where they are seeing, you know,
Speaker 1: more equal time, but then maybe you have one where
Speaker 1: they're not seeing the field. And I think it's great.
Speaker 1: I think it gives them just yeah, far more usable
Speaker 1: than the like, yeah, destroying running off the field after
Speaker 1: missing the field goal or whatever. What do you think
Speaker 1: about it? I texted you and Anthony and they were
Speaker 1: talking to Anthony they.
Speaker 2: Gave up something. He's just like, he's like thanks, guys.
Speaker 4: He was it was not going well at that time.
Speaker 4: But uh, yeah, no, I thought that was great. And
Speaker 4: it was interesting that what when Danny Etling went out
Speaker 4: after Bryce Perkins was absolutely on fire led him to
Speaker 4: a touchdown that you know, I think who They were
Speaker 4: talking to him to Bryce Perkins and it was kind
Speaker 4: of like, well, how do you feel? You know have
Speaker 4: you know, you just had this great drive, You're on fire.
Speaker 4: And he was completely political, you know, right down the
Speaker 4: line about it, as he should be. But it's like
Speaker 4: you just got to control what you can control. You
Speaker 4: could tell he wasn't happy because he was.
Speaker 3: The hot hand. And then Antling went in there and
Speaker 3: kind of blew it.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, so what do you make so they lost?
Speaker 2: Moving forward?
Speaker 3: What do you make?
Speaker 1: And then and then we'll talk through the Nicku stuff here,
Speaker 1: but what do you what do the Panthers do moving forwar?
Speaker 1: Because you said that they kind of gave the game
Speaker 1: away because of that decision.
Speaker 4: I felt like that was the decision that that lost
Speaker 4: it for them, and I agree with my I mean,
Speaker 4: sometimes Nolan does make some questionable decisions. It's almost like,
Speaker 4: you know, we talked about this too. It's like in
Speaker 4: the NFL you can't run a two quarterback system. In
Speaker 4: the UFL, you can give them a little more leeway
Speaker 4: because there are a couple of things at play. There
Speaker 4: are trying to win games, and they are trying to
Speaker 4: get these guys better and then move to the next level.
Speaker 4: But at some point when this happens, and you can't
Speaker 4: be stubborn and stick to that game plan. Now, Mike
Speaker 4: Nolan has coached and won a lot more games than
Speaker 4: I have, so but I just have to think that
Speaker 4: the Bryce Perkins, you know, or the the Danny Etling
Speaker 4: Bryce Perkins experiment, Like, no matter what happens, it's gonna
Speaker 4: be Bryce. Then then then Danny Etlin goes in. I think,
Speaker 4: to me, that's got to end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I they need to.
Speaker 1: I mean, this goes back to everything, but they need
Speaker 1: to establish this league.
Speaker 2: It's just winning and it's important.
Speaker 1: I can't say like what we have to develop, or
Speaker 1: we have to do or we have to like as
Speaker 1: someone that you know watches a ton of hockey and
Speaker 1: we have a really great minor league team in Coachella
Speaker 1: like this and guy up when they're ready to go
Speaker 1: and play, you know, and you said, like as a propers,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm explaining how like you know, like pharmacystems
Speaker 1: were like how it should work, and I just can't
Speaker 1: stand that. Yeah, ever, any idea of like, well we
Speaker 1: could have won and we couldn't have won, but yeah,
Speaker 1: we had to make sure we got an equal playing
Speaker 1: time were like, then that's what this league is, or
Speaker 1: it's not that I can't have game decisions we made
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agreed.
Speaker 4: I mean it's at this point, especially now, you know,
Speaker 4: if you're Houston or Memphis, you know, like with Memphis,
Speaker 4: let's put in our third string guy and see what happens.
Speaker 4: We saw what happens. And I don't think the nation
Speaker 4: is talking about dress or wind, but we certainly are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bed transformed. So let's talk through.
Speaker 1: Let's talk through a little Maddie, Marty Fresh here, let's
Speaker 1: talk to you. I wasn't clear really even when this
Speaker 1: was posted, Like I don't even know if like.
Speaker 2: He recorded, It's like a screen. I don't know where
Speaker 2: this came from.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I just saw this, but I don't know
Speaker 4: where it came from, right, correct?
Speaker 3: So just.
Speaker 1: I have made fun of a lot for like talking
Speaker 1: about your inalistic standards in here, but could you please
Speaker 1: next time you're gonna post a viral clip, take the
Speaker 1: two seconds like maybe he.
Speaker 2: Recorded it, but I don't, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what was Marty at the game, like
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know it was in Saint Louis.
Speaker 1: I know he's anyway, you see it was Samson Nicola right,
Speaker 1: brother brother of here right right, obviously a known name
Speaker 1: engaging for you. He was the parents engaging with.
Speaker 2: The Battahawks fan here.
Speaker 1: Uh I'll have my thoughts and the mena but curious
Speaker 1: kind of your thoughts on this, John because this kind
Speaker 1: of went everywhere, and this seemed like it was one
Speaker 1: of the talking points coming out of the weekend.
Speaker 4: Well, uh as Abdul said. Darryl Johnson said he wanted
Speaker 4: the viral moment.
Speaker 3: He got it there.
Speaker 4: But I will say, and some people were saying that
Speaker 4: he was trying to knock the guy's hat off. It
Speaker 4: doesn't matter like you you don't touch a fan. And
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I don't know
Speaker 4: what the fan said. I've heard different things, but like
Speaker 4: you're just nothing good come out of this. And so
Speaker 4: if I'm his teammate rather than over there laughing at
Speaker 4: the guy or saying something, I'm trying to take my
Speaker 4: teammate away and get him out of this situation. And
Speaker 4: that's just I do wonder, you know, the UFL. Finally,
Speaker 4: I think there was so much attention on it, the
Speaker 4: UFL had to They had put out a statement said
Speaker 4: we're aware and we're investigating, which you know was kind
Speaker 4: of a non statement, but they had to at least
Speaker 4: acknowledge it. So I don't know what's going to happen
Speaker 4: with him. I was just really surprised when I saw
Speaker 4: when I saw this video.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also, please don't copyright Streika because I can't
Speaker 2: come two weeks hopefully.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, they put out and I have it here,
Speaker 1: which you fell dos to comment on a lot. So
Speaker 1: it's good to get a comment on it because they're
Speaker 1: a tight lip sometimes don't talk about further usage rights,
Speaker 1: but we will talk about our players knocking the fan
Speaker 1: let it go man. The UFL is aware of the
Speaker 1: incident that took place last evening at the conclusion of
Speaker 1: the Michigan Panthers Saint Lewis game, and Say Louis League
Speaker 1: officials are currently investigating in the manner. Two questions for you,
Speaker 1: is Nikua gone? A and B If his last name
Speaker 1: was it Nikua and he is still there, would he
Speaker 1: be gone if his name wasn't it Nikuah?
Speaker 4: That's a good question because if you've seen any of
Speaker 4: the headlines from this outside of our niche it's brother
Speaker 4: of Puka Nikua, you know, slap span or whatever. So
Speaker 4: this is not the kind of attention that they want
Speaker 4: because this is kind of bush league. Now, what Mike
Speaker 4: g is saying here in the comments is right, like
Speaker 4: what if it was family based or racial remarks?
Speaker 3: I think every player has.
Speaker 1: Now we did see you just saw that in baseball,
Speaker 1: right that the one forgive me? But is he with
Speaker 1: the Cap and the Nationals. One of the players I
Speaker 1: think has been dealing with some mental health issues talked
Speaker 1: about how he had contemplated suicide I believe in the past.
Speaker 1: A fan I think it was last weekend, yelled at
Speaker 1: him and then he engaged, and then I think the
Speaker 1: fan ended up I think getting a cause by security
Speaker 1: because it came out what he's so, Yes, there.
Speaker 4: Are real, you know things happen, sure, but like what
Speaker 4: what Mike is saying here, I think every player has
Speaker 4: the right to deck a fan.
Speaker 3: It's like also saying like.
Speaker 4: You've got the right, You've got the right to say
Speaker 4: whatever you want, but you don't you don't have the
Speaker 4: right to avoid the consequences of what you say or
Speaker 4: what you do. Yeah, and I hope that wasn't the case.
Speaker 4: I just I mean, whatever happened, like, nothing good is
Speaker 4: going to come out of that. But again, you know,
Speaker 4: when when you look at it as a context of
Speaker 4: what someone said, like he was trying to like knock
Speaker 4: the guy's hat off. Even still it was an open palm,
Speaker 4: you know, open hand slap to the face, and you
Speaker 4: know you can't rick James somebody in the stands just
Speaker 4: walk away and go to the locker room.
Speaker 1: It was funny, I just said, maybe it wasn't funny.
Speaker 1: It made me think about the This happened in the CFL.
Speaker 2: I think it was.
Speaker 1: Four years ago and it was an Eastern semi final
Speaker 1: playoff game. And I think Toronto lost in Hamilton, and
Speaker 1: as the as the Hamilton Toronto have a very contentious relationship,
Speaker 1: and as our ghost players re leaving fans realited, I
Speaker 1: think a couple of Toronto's players jumped the gate, like
Speaker 1: onto the concourse they were. That was when John Murphy
Speaker 1: he was I don't think he was the GM, but
Speaker 1: he had another player personnel role there, like he got suspended.
Speaker 1: He said like it was a very big deal in
Speaker 1: a fight. So these are definitely not the things you
Speaker 1: want to have coming out, especially the UFL. Like you said,
Speaker 1: it just looks bush league, especially on the weekend where
Speaker 1: like people were kind of joking about the UFL with
Speaker 1: Shadua Sanders. I wouldn't then want the UFL also made
Speaker 1: made fun of because of stuff like this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but to answer your question, do I think he's gone,
Speaker 4: I don't know. This is I don't know that we've
Speaker 4: really seen anything like this. I mean, we've seen somebody
Speaker 4: get pretty much cut from a team because they wanted pizza,
Speaker 4: But this is this is a whole different kind of
Speaker 4: story here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anything else from this game, We'll move on to
Speaker 1: the defenders.
Speaker 2: Anything else from this.
Speaker 4: No, it was awesome. I think that was just to me,
Speaker 4: that was Now, there were a lot of good games.
Speaker 4: To me, that was the best one, and the one
Speaker 4: we're getting ready to talk about I think was probably
Speaker 4: the second best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean, just this is what happens, right,
Speaker 1: we have these games and then we spend ten minutes
Speaker 1: or whatever talking about these other things, like that's not
Speaker 1: what you want and obviously you can't write. But again,
Speaker 1: as I said off the top of the show, the St.
Speaker 1: Louis game felt like it had the highest stakes because
Speaker 1: the fans were like, there was just a lot of
Speaker 1: it had a division rivalry. They always say that in
Speaker 1: the NFL kind of feel to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we have the So this was the largest
Speaker 2: comeback in UFL history. So were they down like fifteen?
Speaker 3: I think they were down fifteen.
Speaker 2: Because I was like, yeah, was it two scores plus? Okay?
Speaker 2: What was whatever? The greatest comeback?
Speaker 1: This was exciting, DC, you know, accomplished everything. I texted
Speaker 1: because Anthony Miller, one of their he tweeted out, so
Speaker 1: I can say, but like one of their family friends
Speaker 1: had shoes.
Speaker 2: He had to help them with their house and so
Speaker 2: he wasn't at the game. I go of course, Anthony,
Speaker 2: and this is like the best game of the year before. Guy,
Speaker 2: what did you make of this one?
Speaker 4: Uh? I think if you love passing, like this was
Speaker 4: the game. I mean, look at im. This was just insane,
Speaker 4: like Jordan Tomu throwing the ball forty six times. Now,
Speaker 4: I think we saw Matt Carrall throw forty nine times
Speaker 4: in one of the in one of the games earlier
Speaker 4: this year, and then Luis Perez doing Luis Perez things.
Speaker 4: I don't know what he was thinking on that last throw.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was miscommunication or what. But
Speaker 4: the bottom line is like this was this was a
Speaker 4: passing clinic, man. I mean, now they were doing some
Speaker 4: things on the ground, but I mean you look at
Speaker 4: those it was just this was just a really fun
Speaker 4: game to watch.
Speaker 1: Well, it was kind of vintage, right, I mean it
Speaker 1: felt like I mean Tomu we we I think we've
Speaker 1: talked the last couple of weeks like is he kind
Speaker 1: of long for this world here? And it felt like
Speaker 1: he's kind of been around the block and you know,
Speaker 1: Louis and is it and we need to decide is
Speaker 1: he the king of Spring or is he the Spring King?
Speaker 1: Because I believe the book was called King of Spring.
Speaker 3: I think it's no. I think the book is Spring King.
Speaker 2: Well we need to pick one. What is pras this book?
Speaker 2: You don't even know, but I.
Speaker 3: Think it's Spring King. I haven't. I think it's Spring King.
Speaker 1: I'm going to look at it anyway, Justine, No, so
Speaker 1: he is the Spring King.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's the Spring King. I think that's what they're
Speaker 4: gonna hang. I always thought it was King of Spring.
Speaker 4: Was had a little bit more of a you know
Speaker 4: that flows a little better. But the bottomle I think
Speaker 4: what we saw we saw two there you go, the
Speaker 4: Spring King. Sure, but I think what we saw we
Speaker 4: saw two very uh you know, talented, but also, as
Speaker 4: you pointed out, very experienced quarterbacks in here. It's kind
Speaker 4: of like being the I remember we had there was
Speaker 4: a minor league player here in Louisville, Corky Miller, who finally,
Speaker 4: you know, I think he's in coaching now, but he
Speaker 4: had he had set the record for like, however many
Speaker 4: minor league games and all this stuff. And I was like,
Speaker 4: does that you know that that's pretty cool you have
Speaker 4: the record.
Speaker 3: He goes, well, it means that I'm old and I've
Speaker 3: never made into the major League.
Speaker 4: But so but there is something too that you when
Speaker 4: you have that experience, and I think probably what both
Speaker 4: these quarterbacks do and I and Luis Perez I used
Speaker 4: to ask him about this during his Spring King book tour.
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, they help these younger quarterbacks and
Speaker 4: they can learn a lot from them. So uh, but
Speaker 4: to see those guys go at it to legends, I
Speaker 4: mean that was that?
Speaker 3: Was it? The King of Spring Kings? I like that
Speaker 3: one we'll go with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Jiel said the King of
Speaker 2: Spring King.
Speaker 1: I mean Triple H was the King of King, so
Speaker 1: you can you can be the King of Spring or
Speaker 1: the King of Spring King. But yes, said I like,
Speaker 1: Triple H is the King of Kings. But that was good.
Speaker 3: It was it?
Speaker 1: Oh, you know because the mirror that was I was
Speaker 1: trying to look up. The Mariners have a have a
Speaker 1: utility player right now light that as well that he
Speaker 1: has been you know, I think twelve or thirteen years
Speaker 1: kind of going through. But they talked through that, and like, uh,
Speaker 1: it means that I'm kind of ready for any situation
Speaker 1: and that I think there's a lot of intangible to
Speaker 1: go into that. Even when you get people like Louis
Speaker 1: Prez in the book, and then Mike Mitchell talking and
Speaker 1: people making fun like, well what growth is? We like,
Speaker 1: Louis has played a long time and done really like
Speaker 1: it's okay to not disminish everything.
Speaker 3: It's fine exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean he's got you know, great story, there's no question,
Speaker 4: and we've heard it a lot.
Speaker 3: Now he's got a whole book.
Speaker 2: Can I tell you the funniest thing?
Speaker 1: So the you know, the draft is this weekend, and so, uh,
Speaker 1: first of all, my mother, who's a diehard football fan,
Speaker 1: has never watched the draft ever, so that was just
Speaker 1: an interesting thing of like so like do they have
Speaker 1: all the hats at their house or like, you know,
Speaker 1: just a lot of like like logistics questions. But then
Speaker 1: Dorothy goes, so what happens like if you don't get drafted?
Speaker 1: And I go, amazingly enough, this football league exists to
Speaker 1: your husband this podcast for four years or other leagues like,
Speaker 1: but like Dorothy finally realized, She's.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, I go, yeah, this is what I just thought.
Speaker 1: It was kind of funny that like we all kind
Speaker 1: of came to this realization.
Speaker 4: And in fact, if you were watching Sunday you might
Speaker 4: see some of these guys playing in the UFL.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, anything else. So I think who
Speaker 1: was it the new d C for Defenders. He was
Speaker 1: tweeting out like he didn't have as much gray hair
Speaker 1: when he came in. He's excited here DC, right, all
Speaker 1: the coaching turmoil and all that they're putting up points here,
Speaker 1: So like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you make of this?
Speaker 3: To me?
Speaker 2: This is very impressive having gone through everything DC has
Speaker 2: gone through.
Speaker 4: Oh totally, and it's it's it's like kind of you've
Speaker 4: seen how they've adjusted. And I don't know that you
Speaker 4: can build a lot of culture in a franchise of
Speaker 4: the way that the UFL is laid out right now.
Speaker 4: But what you have seen, you know, from Shannon Harris,
Speaker 4: from from Blake Williams, is you know they were able
Speaker 4: to step in and and you know, keep keep it going.
Speaker 4: And that is that says a lot. I think about
Speaker 4: the relationships that you have with each other and within
Speaker 4: that locker room, and you know, to have Fred Kayes
Speaker 4: obviously they're you know, still the offensive coordinator and doing
Speaker 4: good stuff too. I mean there's just continuity says a lot.
Speaker 4: And I think that's that was one of the things
Speaker 4: that we had an issue that we're starting that we're
Speaker 4: seeing with san Antonio, there was just there was too
Speaker 4: much change too fast, especially you know, head coach. And
Speaker 4: then you've got a guy who was I believe Peyton
Speaker 4: Party may have started the season as like the special
Speaker 4: teams coach and now in week four he's the head coach.
Speaker 4: So those kinds of things are pretty hard to get over.
Speaker 4: You know, Memphis figured out a way, but man, I
Speaker 4: mean that's just team turmoil.
Speaker 1: Uh, the other just and just I know we did
Speaker 1: the attendance, but like the Star contrasts and I've done
Speaker 1: We've done the kickoff, you know whatever. However many years
Speaker 1: they're in Choctaw two or three. You know, I took
Speaker 1: Dorothy there two games, like we've done not yet, like
Speaker 1: I've done just the Saturday game at chalk Taw or
Speaker 1: send it, you know whatever.
Speaker 2: Like what is stark difference just in energy from.
Speaker 1: Like this in the battle Hawks And obviously you know
Speaker 1: we're comparing poop to an apple, right, I mean you can't,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it's like right, you know, the
Speaker 1: battle Hawks is that is the pinnacle of what we
Speaker 1: are trying to do, Right, and Jocksaw's working on that.
Speaker 1: But Lake, it's the stadium, it's the size, it's the configure.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just everything. It's just dead.
Speaker 1: It's just the laziest like not the league. It's just
Speaker 1: the laziest feeling kind of like you're just kind of
Speaker 1: there hanging out in the sun.
Speaker 2: It's a baseball stage, you know.
Speaker 1: It feels like you're out of baseball stadium, kind of
Speaker 1: just hanging out.
Speaker 4: I just I saw there was there was a one
Speaker 4: of the touchdowns and you could see it look like
Speaker 4: a father and son and they're sitting at this weird
Speaker 4: angle in the corner of the end zone and you
Speaker 4: kind of it's almost like they look at him like
Speaker 4: walk like run by and they're looking down. It's just
Speaker 4: it is such a weird layout. I'd love to go.
Speaker 4: I mean, all that said, I would love to go.
Speaker 4: And you know, check out the UFL all the headquarters
Speaker 4: there in the weight room that we've seen so much
Speaker 4: about every halftime. It looks, uh it is. It's an
Speaker 4: interesting layout and it's too bad because that's the hub.
Speaker 4: You think that there would be some kind of you know,
Speaker 4: maybe a little boost of interest. But if this is
Speaker 4: the boost we're seeing. That's that's not great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Johnny, you don't like I always laughed too,
Speaker 1: But yeah, when you go to like a game like
Speaker 1: that and the two people have bought tickets, you go,
Speaker 1: you know, you can sit anywhere, right, like no one's
Speaker 1: I did laugh. We went to the last Mariner games
Speaker 1: at Oakland Coliseum and they were we had bought tickets
Speaker 1: up front because you can afford to do that at Colisseum,
Speaker 1: and people were checking our tickets and I go.
Speaker 2: Really like, what are we like, what are we guardying here?
Speaker 2: Whether we in the stadium's you know, you're not playing here?
Speaker 2: Anything else? From this, We'll go to the blowout in
Speaker 2: Santoi anything else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I think we covered it. We covered it
Speaker 3: all there. This is Houston, San Antonio. That was that
Speaker 3: was something.
Speaker 1: Well, ay, you know, I think you've I think that
Speaker 1: you're rubbing off a little bit, right. You had the
Speaker 1: CJ was that two weeks ago? They had the win, right,
Speaker 1: and they had the kissing and all that.
Speaker 4: And now I did see that. I really thought I
Speaker 4: thought I had seen Hton's only win of the season.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, I'm standing here, I've
Speaker 4: seen it. I saw it with my own eyes. And
Speaker 4: then they go to San Antonio and do this. Man,
Speaker 4: I mean roughnecks were doing it with defense, you know,
Speaker 4: Jaylen McClinton and that dude was he was balling and
Speaker 4: through this thing. And I don't understand it to me
Speaker 4: when he when Peyton Party put the hook on Kellen Mind,
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't think this was all on Mind.
Speaker 4: I know there were a lot of people who were,
Speaker 4: but it just felt like to me, he he had progressed,
Speaker 4: you know, week after week after week and just looked
Speaker 4: really good. And then they were fresh Brahmas were frustrated.
Speaker 4: Whatever Houston was doing was continued to front. It was
Speaker 4: chippy the whole game. You know, Houston didn't even punt
Speaker 4: until I think the late third quarter. Like that tells you,
Speaker 4: like how dominating that they were. And who would have
Speaker 4: ever thought that. We would have said, you know, Houston
Speaker 4: dominated someone, but they did.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: Here you go, Philip, Johnny, you have little faith pills
Speaker 1: Philips believe the whole way through. But here's the question,
Speaker 1: because this in the group shot is we were again
Speaker 1: I've watched all this today. We were at the MA
Speaker 1: and then my mother was over. But like the consensus
Speaker 1: for the gentleman in the group chat was, you know,
Speaker 1: Brahmas gave this game away or just played kind of
Speaker 1: awful more than like Houston really okay, they're kind of
Speaker 1: building momentum here.
Speaker 2: How do you how do you view that?
Speaker 4: No, Houston, Houston did everything that they needed to do
Speaker 4: talent wise, as someone pointed out, Yeah, I mean see
Speaker 4: that's the problem here, CJ is they seems like they
Speaker 4: win and you know in spite of him, like he
Speaker 4: he really did, Like what what was it that Jaylen
Speaker 4: mcclindon wasn't doing, Not not taking anything away from from
Speaker 4: Nolan Henderson, but like you know, Anthony Anthony Brown didn't
Speaker 4: he was he like the starting quarterback to start to
Speaker 4: start the season. It was just like I don't understand
Speaker 4: what they were seeing in practice that they didn't see,
Speaker 4: like Jaylen mc clinton is the guy that you know,
Speaker 4: that's who we need in there, or but it's I
Speaker 4: don't take anything away from Houston in this game. They
Speaker 4: absolutely dominated san Antonio, and san Antonio frustrated and they
Speaker 4: and they just san Antonio. It wasn't like they lost
Speaker 4: the game. Houston won this game flat out, but I mean,
Speaker 4: I was shocked we didn't.
Speaker 1: I was in Vegas when the all the way Phillips
Speaker 1: stuff came out right and we believe you know, stepping
Speaker 1: down and probably health related an age and all of that.
Speaker 2: I tweet, you know, I said, well.
Speaker 1: This isn't a good look just because this is another
Speaker 1: head coach and all this.
Speaker 2: Do you view anything of that?
Speaker 1: And and and we obviously the AJ Smith and everything
Speaker 1: we've there's been a lot of turmoil, especially with the
Speaker 1: bron Defenders and Brahmas. Really feels like a lot for
Speaker 1: that way. But I don't know, like where did the
Speaker 1: Brahmas go from here? Just kind of general thoughts because
Speaker 1: he hadn't touched on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4: To me, I don't know that they recover from this.
Speaker 4: You beat DC and you look good doing it, and
Speaker 4: then you come home and you have that kind of game.
Speaker 4: It's just really hard for me to see how this
Speaker 4: team bounces back from that. In fact, when they were
Speaker 4: zero and three, I had San Antonio still I still
Speaker 4: had them third in uh in my power rankings, because
Speaker 4: I thought they were that good. It just wasn't coming
Speaker 4: out on you know, they weren't on the right side
Speaker 4: of the score column. But after that I put them,
Speaker 4: I put them dead last this week in my power
Speaker 4: rankings because I just don't think that they have it now.
Speaker 4: I mean, I probably shouldn't judge them like, oh they
Speaker 4: were they were great last week and then they were
Speaker 4: terrible this week, and that's what they are. But to me,
Speaker 4: I just don't see them bouncing back from this, especially
Speaker 4: in that conference.
Speaker 1: It's just it's an interesting team to track, just from
Speaker 1: the XFL and then obviously with all the Hines Wards
Speaker 1: stuff and then with the rough Necks for the gamble
Speaker 1: Necks and okay, and the Brahmas kind of become the
Speaker 1: rough Necks, and then we had all this stuff now
Speaker 1: with AJ Smith and that consternation and uh kind of
Speaker 1: dating back to the championship game and Chase Carl like uh,
Speaker 1: you know, not that the UFL has a long history here,
Speaker 1: but you really can kind of track this downfall the
Speaker 1: Brahmas over, you know, starting at the championship kind of
Speaker 1: all this.
Speaker 2: It's just weird because they especially as.
Speaker 1: The rough Knacks in the movie over like there was
Speaker 1: so much oh my god, you got a J Smith
Speaker 1: and silver as the way filled all this like oh,
Speaker 1: they're gonna drive, and it just they really the carts
Speaker 1: come off, and it's this is a team that went
Speaker 1: to the championship last year and that's you know, like
Speaker 1: you said, and then it was just so much change
Speaker 1: and it just, yeah, it felt like I don't know
Speaker 1: what if it was behind the scenes, what was going on,
Speaker 1: but it just felt like, you know, stumbling out of
Speaker 1: the gate like that and trying to figure out, you know,
Speaker 1: killing mom was still figuring out the offense, and I
Speaker 1: kept saying, I think, like, I think he can be
Speaker 1: an all UFL quarterback. And I don't think that he
Speaker 1: should have gotten the hook for Jared Guarantano.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't. I did not understand that move
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 1: Oh, and I was just looking if Silver's is back
Speaker 1: with the BattleHawks, right, it's like the third singer. I
Speaker 1: just was trying to kind of remind myself. I knew
Speaker 1: that I remember seeing that he got picked up again,
Speaker 1: and obviously with the injuries and all that, so you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, we're still there's.
Speaker 2: Remnants of the Brahmas still around.
Speaker 1: But last thoughts here and then we'll kind of do
Speaker 1: a recapping out any other thoughts on the rough next
Speaker 1: year a Philip is saying, or a duel saying Houston
Speaker 1: could be five hundred next week, and then at Philip saying,
Speaker 1: you know, that's the beauty of the league. Anyone can
Speaker 1: be there with So is this a one off? Is
Speaker 1: Houston what are we doing here?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: I thought, well, now the win against Memphis. Memphis lost
Speaker 4: that game. Houston didn't win that. I mean it just
Speaker 4: you know, they got the W. But like Memphis just
Speaker 4: shot themselves in the foot and c J was blowing
Speaker 4: kisses to the crowd.
Speaker 3: That's a much improved team, man.
Speaker 4: I mean it's hard for me to say that. If
Speaker 4: that team with Jaylen McClendon continued to perform that way
Speaker 4: and that defense continuing to perform that way, now that
Speaker 4: might be a lot to ask, you know, that much
Speaker 4: consistency when you've had such a kind of a terrible start.
Speaker 4: And again, I have a lot of questions about that
Speaker 4: coaching staff. I don't think it's a one off. So
Speaker 4: I'm kind of you know, Houston was the least interesting
Speaker 4: team in the world to me, and now it's like, okay,
Speaker 4: this is kind of interesting. And someone, as you said
Speaker 4: something that you pointed out that someone both pointed out,
Speaker 4: anybody can be anybody in this league, and now you've
Speaker 4: got to do it, like you have to do it now.
Speaker 1: Dynamic Gaming Houston attendance up this week now, No, seriously,
Speaker 1: So anyway, so we got five minutes off, let's look
Speaker 1: at this standing, so we'll recap, we'll get out of here.
Speaker 1: But wait, I agree with what you said about that,
Speaker 1: you know, the rough necks and being interesting. That's how
Speaker 1: I feel about Memphis now too, like the like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I want to I don't like and this
Speaker 1: is what people don't get and it doesn't this is
Speaker 1: like the biggest first world problem in the world. But like,
Speaker 1: I don't have a ton of weekend time to watch
Speaker 1: these games. And so then when like I turn on
Speaker 1: and it's Arlington and Memphis and they're putting up six
Speaker 1: points or whatever like that, it kills my excitement for
Speaker 1: all of this. And I know that, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: just the one I'll like. It's just hard. So I
Speaker 1: like being able when I turn on my TV, the
Speaker 1: fact that like, wow, like something interesting might happen here,
Speaker 1: this would be cool.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm a sicko and I watched Like if I
Speaker 3: don't watch it, watch them live. I will watch like.
Speaker 4: Every minute on on DVR. My wife just sends me
Speaker 4: to the basement on Sundays for the doubleheaders. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean I get that, but it is it is.
Speaker 4: It is fun to see interesting teams, interesting stories. It's
Speaker 4: what we always talked about that is the strength of
Speaker 4: this league or this the interesting stories of the players
Speaker 4: certainly and the coaches.
Speaker 3: But when they start to.
Speaker 4: Play, like the three games we saw and and what
Speaker 4: Houston you know, did on the field as well, like
Speaker 4: this is good football. And if you would have told
Speaker 4: me two weeks ago that Houston's gonna be playing good football,
Speaker 4: I would say there's no way. But things start to
Speaker 4: come together, and this is the time for it to
Speaker 4: come together. I think what we saw, these offenses have
Speaker 4: now caught up with the defenses because they're playing together,
Speaker 4: and frankly, these quarterbacks or something.
Speaker 3: There you go, Philip, here we're on the same page. Here.
Speaker 4: The offenses are starting to catch up with the defenses
Speaker 4: because you know, they they're getting in a groove now
Speaker 4: and they have seen over the first five weeks what works,
Speaker 4: what doesn't, what are people's strengths. And for Houston, I'm
Speaker 4: hopefully that that coaching staff has said like, oh, maybe
Speaker 4: our strength is is Jaylen McClinton.
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, you Philip here, I put that up in
Speaker 1: my here. I was loving TJ blowing kisses to the fore.
Speaker 2: But I'll stand though.
Speaker 1: I mean I was kind of looking here because it's
Speaker 1: like do I do I drump?
Speaker 2: Do I dump the Brahmas?
Speaker 1: I mean that's my team, I kind of you know,
Speaker 1: but it's like not even the same team anymore. There's
Speaker 1: like knowing there I might just have to be like
Speaker 1: a dresser Win guy, Like I'm just I'm just a guy.
Speaker 2: I just I just track guys.
Speaker 1: Now, maybe I can't track teams because all my teams
Speaker 1: fall apart.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean there are worse quarterbacks to get on
Speaker 4: the dresser Win. I mean what like that was just
Speaker 4: that was a great performance and you know, and then
Speaker 4: his demeanor through the whole thing that was that was
Speaker 4: pretty fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh the last thing.
Speaker 1: Everyone a couple of things and then we'll do Leon
Speaker 1: Reed is a band waking Absolutely for stuff like that, absolutely,
Speaker 1: uh you know, mariners and cracking and command like yes,
Speaker 1: but for spring football absolutely, absolutely, even the CFL. I
Speaker 1: bounced around until I found my home. Now I have
Speaker 1: my home, but we did all that. Leon says, it
Speaker 1: is interesting they're not listing the X and L, e
Speaker 1: U s USFL standings online.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I liked that because I like, you know, I just
Speaker 1: made more people yell at me and stuff.
Speaker 2: So that was kind of fun to do that.
Speaker 3: That's what you want.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so DC, with everything top of the XFL
Speaker 1: division here, your biggest comeback in history obviously would be
Speaker 1: high on the power rankings there if I was submitted
Speaker 1: all that stuff you know, ready gets here.
Speaker 2: What do you make of it?
Speaker 1: The big picture, halfway through the season, before we get out, I.
Speaker 4: Think we're starting to see teams, even the even the
Speaker 4: teams that lost in Week five, you're still seeing some
Speaker 4: of these teams rise to the top, like with D
Speaker 4: for instance. I mean, DC, there's no question they were
Speaker 4: number one of my power rankings this week. Although when
Speaker 4: you say, like, oh, well fifteen, yeah that you know
Speaker 4: it's the biggest comeback. You know, possession is still nine.
Speaker 4: It was less than two possessions.
Speaker 3: But it was still.
Speaker 4: Don't take anything away because Renegades their defense is so
Speaker 4: much improved from last year. So I like, to me,
Speaker 4: it just feels like the XFL is going to be
Speaker 4: so much fun to watch because you have those three
Speaker 4: top teams there who you know very well. You could
Speaker 4: take any of those three and say they're going to
Speaker 4: be in the UFL Championship. There's two right there that
Speaker 4: you take and say, like and it's probably you know again,
Speaker 4: how do you bet against Skip Holtz? Like you even
Speaker 4: with that losing to Memphis at home, which was just
Speaker 4: such a shock, You don't take anything away from him
Speaker 4: and you don't bet against him.
Speaker 1: Just in speaking of the the you know the whatever.
Speaker 1: Oh it's the one score lead or the two score
Speaker 1: leader that always kills me and you get in a
Speaker 1: lot in the spring football, but even in the NFL,
Speaker 1: like where a team han't done anything all game, and
Speaker 1: that's my biggest announcer, pet Peeve is like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: if they scored and went for the two points and
Speaker 1: then got the off side to them, like.
Speaker 2: They haven't done anything all game.
Speaker 1: They're not scoring twenty two points here in the last
Speaker 1: three minutes like.
Speaker 4: Comes like some kind of tech mobile comeback in the
Speaker 4: fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, I think this is a I mean
Speaker 1: positive note to leave on.
Speaker 2: I feel decent.
Speaker 1: We'll see where the rest of the TV rates go.
Speaker 1: It's a tough weekend, I mean the draft. This goes
Speaker 1: back to why I would do the February start. This
Speaker 1: time of year, people are out, We're out, like it's
Speaker 1: to me, and it really exemplified, like this weekend of
Speaker 1: just how much stuff we had in the February start
Speaker 1: you have to do. It's impossible to pull in a
Speaker 1: casual audience when springtime hits.
Speaker 4: Agreed, And I would almost be willing to say start
Speaker 4: your season the week before the super Bowl, when you've
Speaker 4: got the whole weekend to yourself. You could still I'm
Speaker 4: gonna lay this out. I got to figure this out.
Speaker 4: But I honestly think like you could do that. You
Speaker 4: could start in late January or early February or however
Speaker 4: that you know it would lay out for the super Bowl,
Speaker 4: and you could have a spring league that gets eyeballs
Speaker 4: and surround it even even during super Bowl when that
Speaker 4: is what the world's attention is on. I just I
Speaker 4: really think that you could do that and do this
Speaker 4: in February and get these guys in the right cycle
Speaker 4: to get into the NFL, you know, mini camps and
Speaker 4: all that.
Speaker 1: I agree one hundred percent you're getting a lot of
Speaker 1: be a big fans agree all out in here because
Speaker 1: to me too, and you know, I would look at
Speaker 1: it as how I was just in in Vegas for WrestleMania.
Speaker 2: Look at it that way.
Speaker 1: Every other everyone else that's involved in wrestling goes where
Speaker 1: the ww egos right for wrestling any weekend. It's the
Speaker 1: same with the NFL. And maybe you can you know,
Speaker 1: I don't. Can you get a high school stadium nearby
Speaker 1: or college stadium and do a one off kind of Hey,
Speaker 1: it's a it's an exit your year. You're's marking at
Speaker 1: me now?
Speaker 3: No, No, I like it.
Speaker 2: Should we do a preseason expedition whatever, exhibition I can't
Speaker 2: even tell about exhibition game whatever.
Speaker 1: But plus then you know, I think mid April is
Speaker 1: the is the ideal out And then you know, and
Speaker 1: then you're in the draft cycle, and then you're in
Speaker 1: all of this stuff, and then then if you aren't
Speaker 1: in the championship game, you're out a couple of weeks earlier,
Speaker 1: and you can, like, it just makes so much more
Speaker 1: sense to kill.
Speaker 2: Fox wants that when they.
Speaker 1: Need their TV programming, right, I think that's why they
Speaker 1: want to do all this and that's why they're so
Speaker 1: fervent about, like, well, this is when we need the programming,
Speaker 1: so this is we're going to do it. But for
Speaker 1: the players involved, I think it's impossible to argue. And
Speaker 1: we heard that with with agents and everything too. They
Speaker 1: prefer the ex schedule.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just makes sense.
Speaker 4: And you to start in February. And people say, well,
Speaker 4: there's football burnout. I don't think that's the case because
Speaker 4: by the time you're getting to the playoffs, most of
Speaker 4: the league has been and a lot of our teams
Speaker 4: have been eliminated, and then it's you know, two less,
Speaker 4: four less, and then you know you're not getting burnout.
Speaker 4: You're getting fewer games and fewer And man, if you
Speaker 4: started Pro Bowl weekend and you put a game as
Speaker 4: like instead of six hours of feature stories and nonsense
Speaker 4: on Fox or whatever, and you had it, it doesn't
Speaker 4: matter where the Super Bowl is. If you're having Super
Speaker 4: Bowl get togethers and somebody's like, we'll put on the
Speaker 4: UFL game that kicked off at noon and we'll be
Speaker 4: over by three people might actually sit and you know,
Speaker 4: or at least stand around and you know, drink a
Speaker 4: few cold ones and eat s nachos, and say this
Speaker 4: is interesting.
Speaker 3: So I just there's opportunity there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I do not watch like from uh once you know,
Speaker 1: the Commander's lost to the Eagles right in the NFC Championship,
Speaker 1: and then I watched the recaps the next day, and
Speaker 1: then I didn't watch sports till the Super Bowl because
Speaker 1: you're done, like yeah, this whole Oh there's all this burnout.
Speaker 1: Like no, there's not, because you're like you said, you're
Speaker 1: only watching six games or whatever that last month. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Like it's not, it's not. It doesn't feel that way.
Speaker 1: So I and they're talking like if the NFL went
Speaker 1: like you can figure that out spoiler alert, I'd rather
Speaker 1: overlap on a Friday Saturday Pro Bowl weekend or whatever.
Speaker 1: I then play against the NFL drafts and all this
Speaker 1: other crap they got to go against.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that's a longer discussion for
Speaker 2: another day. We'll get out of here.
Speaker 1: But I think that that's the key the February has
Speaker 1: always been, and however you want to overlay that is.
Speaker 3: Hopefully that the UFL continues to learn with what's going
Speaker 3: on this season.
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Speaker 2: Like the video. We'll figure out next week. I'm going
Speaker 2: out of town to watch a.
Speaker 1: Couple of Mariner games in Sacramento wherever they're playing now
Speaker 1: where I don't even know where they.
Speaker 2: Are, Sacramento, the Athletics.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing the Mariners play the Athletics. But maybe we'll
Speaker 1: do a preview.
Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll see.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll be off, maybe we'll do a preview show.
Speaker 1: But we'll figure it out. John, I appreciate it. Everyone
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