WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.919 --> 00:00:05.559 It's the lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and carn 2 00:00:05.639 --> 00:00:07.759 S e O and JP Sorrows. 3 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:13.679 He's a lapsed fan and all my years and wrestling. 4 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:17.960 You never seen anything. 5 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:23.039 And it's the laps fan man like the one in 6 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:23.480 the ring. 7 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:24.960 Forget about Sado. 8 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:27.160 He the real king of swing when the bell goes 9 00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:30.039 in with the kick like me throon in the corner. 10 00:00:30.079 --> 00:00:31.280 But it's lash like stick. 11 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:34.719 Even Jerry King can take off the crowd nodded in. 12 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:35.359 His head like it. 13 00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:37.200 Steve low Brown would get. 14 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:40.200 Low down, go even high up, flipp you on your head. 15 00:00:40.280 --> 00:00:43.799 But you know cool, drive, speak out and Dragon spits 16 00:00:43.840 --> 00:00:46.600 fire give you more shock than when Edge treats higher 17 00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:49.840 dropping more truth than the con of sniper unless you 18 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:51.359 would a coconut. 19 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:52.759 Roddy Piper, Jack a JP. 20 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:54.640 He like j Y d drop the. 21 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:56.200 Cupcakes and gold the brain. 22 00:00:56.280 --> 00:00:59.560 Bob Beans the best podcast first start to close round 23 00:00:59.719 --> 00:00:59.920 you all. 24 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:02.399 He's a classic and post do. 25 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:02.679 You know what? 26 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:05.560 A former w CW Operations employee by the name of 27 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:09.079 Richard Steinberg told the website Pro Wrestling Stories dot Com 28 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:12.000 that Sid was wailing in the back of the ambulance 29 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:16.879 after the stabbing incident with dron Anderson in England. He 30 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:23.480 was not only not only did it occur to Sid 31 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:25.599 to scream, I don't want to die. 32 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:29.959 It's so awful. It's so it's like, it's so awful. 33 00:01:30.040 --> 00:01:30.439 Lab at that. 34 00:01:31.319 --> 00:01:34.799 But according to this Richard Steinberg, Sid also had this 35 00:01:34.959 --> 00:01:38.280 thought crossed his mind. And you knows, I'm messed up 36 00:01:39.879 --> 00:01:42.159 my big chance to be w CW World champion. 37 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:46.480 Oh my god, No he did not. 38 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:50.840 For Sid, he knew and that ambulance that plans couldn't, 39 00:01:51.159 --> 00:01:54.640 you know, stay on the rails. If he wanted to 40 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:56.920 preserve the opportunity to win the world title, perhaps you 41 00:01:56.959 --> 00:01:59.680 shouldn't have come back from the stabbing and demanded more 42 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:01.760 money the WCW was willing to give him at the 43 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:04.760 contractual bargaining table. Yeah, as we talked about last time 44 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:07.439 in our TLF tribute to Sid, there certainly were more 45 00:02:07.519 --> 00:02:10.719 chapters to the story after the late October scissor fight 46 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:16.280 for lack of a better term between Sid, Vishes and 47 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:20.240 arn Anderson, which of course procruited his WCW departure in 48 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:23.080 nineteen ninety three, and for all we know his departure 49 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:25.960 from the business. Because now Sid's got to be kind 50 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:29.120 of a third rail, right, I mean yeah, I mean 51 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:31.759 arn Anderson, a deeply respected veteran in the business, with 52 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:34.800 friends in all the offices. He almost killed the guy. 53 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:37.639 I mean, it's going to be tough getting booked again, right, 54 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:38.360 he would think, so. 55 00:02:39.280 --> 00:02:42.319 Oh, I can't imagine there's any now he's done. 56 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:44.439 It's not like he still has the run of his 57 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:46.800 life and those world title reigns still ahead of him, 58 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:50.360 of course, right, Not like he's good. It's not like 59 00:02:50.439 --> 00:02:53.039 he has probably what accounts to like eighty percent of 60 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:55.159 his career earnings and the wrestling business still ahead of 61 00:02:55.199 --> 00:02:57.400 him after doing that. It's not like the wrestling business 62 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:01.599 teaches us these lessons. It's not like people are, you know, 63 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:03.800 texting me saying, I watched the Vince Netflix thing. I 64 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:06.439 don't know nothing about wrestling. You supported all this, you 65 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:08.719 knew about all this. This wasn't new to you. This 66 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:09.719 wasn't new to you. 67 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:18.000 That's right, that's right. Remember that it's not new. 68 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:22.680 As we talked about Ollly Anderson had been fired from WCW, 69 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:26.000 Bischoff had taken over, and there's some negotiating going on 70 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:30.039 with Sid and the Eric Bischoff run WCW and According 71 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:32.680 to what Sid has said and showed interviews, the dialogue was, hey, 72 00:03:33.240 --> 00:03:36.800 we don't have you on contract. I guess only never 73 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:39.800 had you sign a piece of paper, which is another 74 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:45.120 tribute to his brilliant administrating over the years. And Sid 75 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:48.439 has said that he replied, I know that. He said 76 00:03:48.479 --> 00:03:50.599 they wanted to sign me for three hundred thousand. I said, no, 77 00:03:50.639 --> 00:03:54.800 I'm not going to do that. I want the five 78 00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:56.439 hundred thousand which I was promised. 79 00:03:56.639 --> 00:03:58.680 So I want I want the two million a year 80 00:03:58.719 --> 00:03:59.800 that I promised myself. 81 00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:04.240 Only promised you two million. If I call only right. 82 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:07.000 Say that, I said, I promise myself two million. 83 00:04:07.199 --> 00:04:08.319 Well, what did only promise you? 84 00:04:08.759 --> 00:04:13.759 It doesn't matter what I promised myself offer that. 85 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:17.240 Is there a chance by the time this conversation's over, 86 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:19.879 said that you're going to change what you promise yourself again. 87 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:26.839 I gonna tell you something right now. Ah, never promise 88 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:29.240 anything ever. 89 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:34.600 And say that again. However, everybody else has to promise 90 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:36.480 you the world for you to get up off the couch. 91 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:38.759 I didn't promise that and make the town. 92 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:40.839 I didn't say that. 93 00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:43.800 I didn't promise that. You have to promise me anything. 94 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:48.240 But it doesn't hurt and do it first. 95 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:57.800 Oh, I was not expecting. 96 00:04:58.079 --> 00:05:00.959 So right, that's the blow up, right, you know, only 97 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:03.160 said three hundred thousand. We don't have a contract here, 98 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:05.000 we'll give it to you. And he says, no, I 99 00:05:05.079 --> 00:05:06.839 want five hundred thousand. That's what I was promised. And 100 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:09.160 so that's it right now, we can't do that. No, no, Bishoff, 101 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:11.319 according to Sid, turns around and says, okay, fine, five 102 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:12.000 hundred thousand. 103 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:13.879 Oh Jesus. 104 00:05:14.279 --> 00:05:16.240 But the next week they go overseas for the tour 105 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:19.839 and then the fight, and then he's brought into the 106 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:22.319 office subsequent to the fight. This is according to Sid, 107 00:05:22.399 --> 00:05:24.879 and shoot interviews, and it's after the fight with On 108 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:26.959 that they say, okay, you can keep your job, but 109 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:29.439 you're going to go back to three fifty instead of 110 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:30.000 five hundred. 111 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:30.240 Yeah. 112 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:33.600 This this is three fifty after they started at three. 113 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:34.439 According to Sid. 114 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:35.600 Oh my god. Yeah. 115 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:38.360 And you know Sid, you know reads the landscape, says, 116 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:40.079 you know what I mean, geez, I was in there. 117 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:43.680 What fine, I'll tell you what. I don't mind taking you. 118 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:46.120 You say you're going to give me a demotion. Fine, 119 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:53.000 you want to give Sidvisi's demotion. I understand. I will 120 00:05:53.079 --> 00:05:57.120 get a demotion with a price of four hundred thousand 121 00:05:57.160 --> 00:06:00.160 dollars here right from three hundred. 122 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:03.519 Thousand he did. He didn't say you want to give 123 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:06.639 Sid a demotion. He says you want to give Sid himself. 124 00:06:07.319 --> 00:06:12.240 You want to give Sid demotion. Isn't there a huge 125 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:14.199 difference between a demotion and demotion? 126 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:17.199 Huge difference. 127 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:19.439 I don't think we spend enough time thinking about why 128 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:22.720 there is such a big difference between those two phrases. 129 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:25.759 And there's a big difference for Sid too. So you know, geez, right, 130 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:29.279 like you said, he goes over there, he fucks up massively. 131 00:06:29.480 --> 00:06:31.879 According to this one WW employee, he's wailing in the 132 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:34.000 ambulance about how he blew the shot at the biggest 133 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:35.800 money in his career and the world title and all 134 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:39.439 of that. And so you know, obviously when they say, fine, 135 00:06:39.480 --> 00:06:41.079 you can keep your job, but you're going to go 136 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:44.240 to three point fifty, of course Sid says yes. Of 137 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:46.800 course Sid is grateful that they're still willing to employ 138 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:50.240 him after he nearly murdered another wrestler on their watch. 139 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:53.839 Or does he say no five hundred or I'll fucking quit. 140 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:58.920 I'm with the five hundred, I'll fucking quit all right, 141 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:01.160 that's just you know, that's just practical. 142 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:05.560 So you can say you fired Sid because of the stabbing, 143 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:08.000 but what you really did is fire Sid because he 144 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:11.000 wouldn't give you a discount after the stabbing. 145 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:14.040 Idiots. 146 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:17.240 That's the wrestling business. And Sid taught us so much 147 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:19.439 more about the wrestling business than I think we realize 148 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:23.519 by being this way at the negotiating team. So Sid 149 00:07:23.560 --> 00:07:28.079 stabbing someone had consequences, right, he's banished, he's unbookable. Or 150 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:33.480 did this whole stabbing just create the gimmick he would ride? 151 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:35.800 I mean, you know what should do? We should have 152 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:37.360 to bring this guy back because you know what he's 153 00:07:38.360 --> 00:07:39.079 He could have been a. 154 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:42.879 Murderer, was I guess just from everything that you've been 155 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:45.680 saying so far, it seems like was that your idea 156 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:47.759 as far as uh now, it wasn't. 157 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:49.040 I didn't like that. 158 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:50.480 I do because you we all know it was a 159 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:53.279 rib on me. You know, the psycho deal with the 160 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:55.879 fucking scissors rib. 161 00:07:56.079 --> 00:07:58.959 You know, we went back to second time. 162 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:02.360 See I was old Vince and everybody I will not 163 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:05.439 be called psycho said we were really called Sid vicious 164 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:08.959 or just came of dealing with said Vicious is copyrighted 165 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:11.759 by a punk boxing. I said, the guy's dead, you know, 166 00:08:12.279 --> 00:08:14.800 all right, Well we find out his mother owns and 167 00:08:14.839 --> 00:08:16.519 something like that. Well, I don't care what you do. 168 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:19.160 I just would be called shiit. You know they try 169 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:23.279 to refer mostly to sit but then other people with 170 00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:27.040 you know, Actually I didn't mind the cycle sid Okay, 171 00:08:27.319 --> 00:08:30.680 there's a baby face in some buildings that really had 172 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:33.559 a great act when people really got with it instead. 173 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:36.240 I didn't mind, but I wasn't stupid enough that to 174 00:08:36.279 --> 00:08:38.720 fuck you know Cambine. 175 00:08:40.840 --> 00:08:44.519 Right, So let me translate, and let me attempt to translate. 176 00:08:44.919 --> 00:08:47.200 And the reason I cut Vince office because there's exactly 177 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:51.159 keeps speaking to exactly what Vince is good about to say. Essentially, 178 00:08:51.679 --> 00:08:53.320 I mean, now we have a psycho in our hands. 179 00:08:54.000 --> 00:09:00.240 You know, here's a legitimate modified psychopath. Okay, make this 180 00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:03.320 shit up. Can't book this kind of shit? 181 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:07.879 Nearly we got it. Listen, Bruce, a little pat, everybody, 182 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:14.080 come on in, jj H, Nelson, Swigler, come on in. Pal. 183 00:09:14.840 --> 00:09:15.879 He nearly killed. 184 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:20.799 Someone, Pal, How do you feel about that? What does 185 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:24.039 that mean to you? Right? I don't have any I say, 186 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:29.120 someone nearly killed somebody? What does it do to your insides, 187 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:34.840 let alone arms inside? I mean, I don't have a 188 00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:37.519 lot of levers to pull anymore, Palell, the federal government 189 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:39.879 is breathing down my neck. We can't have well, the 190 00:09:40.559 --> 00:09:42.879 the size we used to have. We've got to find 191 00:09:42.879 --> 00:09:45.679 a different hook. And I think we found it. What 192 00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:46.480 a psycho path? 193 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:48.159 Yeah? 194 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:50.000 But you know what I could interrupt Evince. I mean 195 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:52.720 we were calling him psycho Sid when he was here 196 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:55.559 the first time. I mean maybe against Hogan we called 197 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:56.279 him psycho Sid. 198 00:09:56.679 --> 00:10:00.639 I mean, you know we called him the psycho Sid Justice, Yes, 199 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:05.200 but now he's just psycho Sid. He embodies all sids. 200 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:12.000 Now do you think we embodies all sids? So do 201 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:13.639 do we try to slip this in and kind of 202 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:15.440 hope he doesn't notice this characterization? 203 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:17.519 And I mean, you slip in with him? Is your business? 204 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:21.799 I should remember Patterson doing that. I want to watch 205 00:10:21.879 --> 00:10:25.080 the lightning? What I want to come out of the 206 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:26.200 porch and watch the lightning. 207 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:31.039 I mean, you know you can porch whatever you feel necessary. 208 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:32.639 Can you see the hockey stadium from there? 209 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:34.879 Pal I mean, what do you? Yeah, what what kind 210 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:36.320 of athletic endeavors are? 211 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:38.279 So? 212 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:40.639 Do you want to just hope Sid doesn't notice that 213 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:43.279 we're calling him Psycho, or should we just I don't know, 214 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:45.320 give him the music from Psycho in the movie. 215 00:10:47.399 --> 00:10:49.600 I mean, I think we have a multitude of opportunities 216 00:10:49.639 --> 00:10:57.840 here to embellish and vibe and perhaps reach another plateau 217 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:04.639 of creative authority right in the in the pro entertainment fields. 218 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:08.360 That what we could do is actually maybe I got 219 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:12.000 here here. I mean, consider this, right, So he's Psycho, 220 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:18.399 said right, he's the psychopath. He is psychotic, he comes down, 221 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:23.399 and what if we his music is from Psycho, and 222 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:32.279 what if bear with me? He's actually missus bates, So 223 00:11:32.759 --> 00:11:35.919 my mother baits. So he wears the wig and carries 224 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:40.799 a knife, and he wears a momo. I just think 225 00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:44.240 that's fair, that's fair, he says. Let's have creative services 226 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:46.639 draw that up. You know, there are sketches somewhere of 227 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:52.039 sit in a moomoo. They paid some like graphic design 228 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:55.919 hopeful like thirty grand a year to draw like pictures 229 00:11:55.960 --> 00:11:59.480 of sit in a fucking momoo. Oh, I would hope 230 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:00.840 to God, Yes, that's. 231 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:03.320 Something to think about. Well, I don't think here's the 232 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:04.919 thing and we'll get to it. I don't think they 233 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:07.200 have to worry that Sid even knows what the movie 234 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:10.720 Psycho is, let alone with the signature sound, which was 235 00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:14.080 replicated in his returning WWF Entrance theme of course in 236 00:12:14.159 --> 00:12:17.519 nineteen ninety five, even was. But what he's saying in 237 00:12:17.600 --> 00:12:20.639 that clip is, of course three things at once. One 238 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:23.840 is absolutely Sid's out of Sid's mouth. They called him 239 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:26.200 psycho when he came back because of the Sid stabbing incident. 240 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:30.279 I'm sure everybody in the tower will disagree with that characterization. 241 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:32.960 That's how Sid received it. And he says at the end, 242 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:36.320 and he tried to say that, I know people will 243 00:12:36.360 --> 00:12:38.000 say that that's not where it comes from. But I'm 244 00:12:38.039 --> 00:12:41.279 not fucking stupid enough. I'm not so stupid. Rather, I'm 245 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:44.639 not stupid enough. I'm not that stupid. I know that 246 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:46.679 you're having a laugh at my expense by calling me 247 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:48.360 psycho and giving me this kind of gimmick when I 248 00:12:48.399 --> 00:12:50.360 come back. Because say what you will about Sid Justice 249 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:52.600 and how much of a wrecking force he was boss. 250 00:12:53.080 --> 00:12:57.320 He didn't twitch his eyes like this Sid does. It's true, 251 00:12:57.639 --> 00:12:59.720 what did you notice as someone that was, you know, 252 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:02.240 sent into an uncomfortable place by Sid Justice? 253 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:05.000 I didn't really notice too much of a difference. At 254 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:07.039 the time, I just, you know, really what I noticed 255 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:10.039 and what was disappointing his hair, his hair really I 256 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:12.399 just hated. I hated the shorter hair. I was a 257 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:17.200 fan of that. You know, angular you know that pyramid 258 00:13:17.559 --> 00:13:18.279 look he had. 259 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:20.159 Like a sphinxpied his head. 260 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:23.159 Huh yeah, like you know, like he's a sphinx with 261 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:26.320 the fucking thing. Yeah, yeah, I liked. I liked that 262 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:28.039 ninety two look. I don't know what to tell you. 263 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:32.759 It's probably you know, you know, I'm sure it's a 264 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:35.360 deplorable thing. But that's that's what sid is to me. 265 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:38.639 And so when it was cut real short coming back 266 00:13:38.679 --> 00:13:43.720 in ninety five, I was like, eh, under, guess we'll 267 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:43.919 do it. 268 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:47.519 But yeah, it's like it's like Hogan coming back, so 269 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:51.080 like thin and ninety three and yeah, coming back without 270 00:13:51.080 --> 00:13:51.720 the mustache. 271 00:13:51.799 --> 00:13:54.279 It's like, all right, oh about the mustache is just 272 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:57.759 it's inappropriate and it's perverted. 273 00:13:57.840 --> 00:14:00.399 It's like Hogan when he starts wearing the wristband, the 274 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:03.039 spot fans on his wrist, It's like, Okay, something's going 275 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:06.320 on here. This is not this is not the signature 276 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:10.120 presentation that uh, that's burned into my memory bank forever. 277 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:13.360 But yes, Sid does come back. He does come back, 278 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:15.720 not right away, as we'll get to after the nineteen 279 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:18.279 ninety three stabbing incident in WCW, but he does return 280 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:20.759 to the World Wrestling Federation, and, as Sid put it 281 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:22.840 in many shoot interviews over the years, he was on 282 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:25.360 the whipping post for this run. In other words, he 283 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:28.879 felt sort of limited in how much of a protest 284 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:31.360 he could voice when he would be put further down 285 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:33.799 the card or asked to do jobs, whatever the case 286 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:37.240 might be, because he was damaged. Goods WW wasn't sitting 287 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:39.200 there waiting to hire him back, or at least he 288 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:42.519 didn't think so. I'm sure he thought he'd never be 289 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:44.759 welcomed that locker room again, trically, as long as arn't 290 00:14:44.759 --> 00:14:49.399 Anderson worked at WCW. And we'll see about that, won't we. Indeed, 291 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:52.080 it's the sands of time go through the Sid hour 292 00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:54.759 glass here and the lapsed fans tribute to Sid Udy 293 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:57.000 Psycho Sid said justice. We're about to learn all about 294 00:14:57.000 --> 00:14:59.600 Psycho Sid as we continue, and just to shout out 295 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:02.440 and thank everybody for all the positive feedback thus far. 296 00:15:02.519 --> 00:15:04.799 It's kind of been as it usually happens on the 297 00:15:04.840 --> 00:15:07.159 show over ten years unfolding before our eyes. You know, 298 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:09.320 you know, we want to pay tribute to Sid. We 299 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:10.799 think we know the show to do it, and then 300 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:14.759 we just keep going until we're done, and we don't 301 00:15:14.759 --> 00:15:17.519 cut any corners, and we don't falsely accelerate, and we 302 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:19.320 stay in until we finish. 303 00:15:19.759 --> 00:15:21.279 Always it's the only way you can. 304 00:15:21.799 --> 00:15:24.600 That's always how we've done it. And we can do that, 305 00:15:24.879 --> 00:15:29.159 and we're emboldened to do that because we know that 306 00:15:29.519 --> 00:15:32.480 out there in the wider world is a lapsed fan 307 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:35.399 solar system that's willing to put money on the table 308 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:38.440 to say, look, this is what the approach is worth. 309 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:41.240 You know, if you have any quibbles with how we 310 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:45.200 approach what we do, just look at the cold hard 311 00:15:45.279 --> 00:15:48.919 cash and you tell us who's on the right side 312 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:52.159 of history, and it's patreon dot com slash the lapsed fan. 313 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:54.360 That's where to go to prove your worth. That's where 314 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:56.279 you go to prove worthy of the efforts we put 315 00:15:56.360 --> 00:15:59.279 in and participate in the virtuous circle that allows it 316 00:15:59.840 --> 00:16:02.480 to go to the next level. So much popping on 317 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:04.720 the Patreon and we're always obliged to remind you about 318 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:06.360 it here on the main show. If you haven't jumped 319 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:08.360 in the holidays, is a great time to do so. 320 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:10.919 Oh yes, the last couple of quarters of the year. 321 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:15.399 For no lesser reason, of course, than for the executive 322 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:17.639 producer tier and above, which is the mote tier as well. 323 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:21.360 Under the cinemat is rocking and rolling in the seasonal fashion. 324 00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:25.200 Boss. We are indeed, we are, indeed, we are, we 325 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:28.080 are coming up. We're at the halfway point for this 326 00:16:28.279 --> 00:16:33.879 year's scary movie season offerings, and I'm gonna keep it 327 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:38.039 a surprise. It's it's gonna be quite fun. Although we 328 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:42.519 just recently dropped Alice, Sweet Alice, what do your remember? 329 00:16:42.600 --> 00:16:44.000 What are your what are your memories of that of 330 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:45.559 that extravagance. 331 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:49.240 It was just such a great window into experimentation with 332 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:51.240 the genre that exploded in the eighties, but in the 333 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:55.360 seventies was still kind of pulp, still kind of uncomfortably 334 00:16:57.360 --> 00:17:00.159 out of sync with what films from that time time 335 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:02.039 period and of that vintage and of that look are 336 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:04.119 supposed to be representing and they're supposed to be after 337 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:07.880 and it's just you don't expect kind of like the 338 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:12.319 horror tropes with that that film stock right right. 339 00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:14.880 That that that and that's what I kind of talked about, 340 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:17.279 was that it just felt there was something different about 341 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:22.400 it because of that, and very uncomfortable. And but you know, 342 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:26.319 Alice is sweet and she had her communion. 343 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:29.960 Oh yes, her sister, however, did not make it. No, 344 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:33.799 she does not make spoiler alert. Yeah, and so we 345 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:36.839 got we got a couple more starring Argentina Rocca. By 346 00:17:36.880 --> 00:17:40.079 the way, Oh yes, indeed one of the uh more 347 00:17:40.279 --> 00:17:42.960 most famed wrestlers to ever work Madison Square Gardens. So 348 00:17:43.039 --> 00:17:46.519 what a nice excuse to get into the history of 349 00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:50.519 one of the bigger carnies ever worked the territory. 350 00:17:50.599 --> 00:17:53.559 I mean, what a what a what an absolute you know, 351 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:58.640 what a what a maniac? He was just just I couldn't. 352 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:01.839 The more the more I read, the more I was 353 00:18:01.960 --> 00:18:05.839 just blown away those tales. He may have been shortened stature, 354 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:07.720 but his tails were tall indeed. 355 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:14.640 And then you know, once uh, once November rolls around again, 356 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:19.039 we will finish up our James Bond journey. 357 00:18:19.279 --> 00:18:21.160 Clay claimed, you got to get out on this man, 358 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:24.000 especially as we round third and do the Daniel Craig ones. 359 00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:27.319 Yes, yeah, it's it's uh, it's a good time. It's 360 00:18:27.319 --> 00:18:28.799 a good time to look into it, and a good 361 00:18:28.839 --> 00:18:33.400 time to join up. And and uh, you know, mixture, mixture, 362 00:18:33.720 --> 00:18:36.720 your your in ring carnies with your Hollywood carnies, because 363 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:37.559 they're all one of the same. 364 00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:39.640 Oh god, I know, isn't that? The brilliant part of 365 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:42.640 Under the cinemat is, Yeah, is how much crossover we 366 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:45.319 find between the two worlds of movie making and pro 367 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:50.000 wrestling making. I guess you could say, and hey, what's 368 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:53.759 the what's that? What's that faint faint jingle jangle I 369 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:56.720 hear in the distance? Perhaps beyond scary movie season, perhaps 370 00:18:56.799 --> 00:18:58.440 beyond the conclusion of the Bond Journey. 371 00:18:58.839 --> 00:19:04.000 I think you know what I mean. We're certainly closer 372 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:07.359 than we were a few months ago to Christmas movie season. 373 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:10.319 My god, And if that's if that's not a reason 374 00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:12.440 to subscribe. And I'm not sure we even want you 375 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:14.519 as a listener, honestly, because if you don't get that, 376 00:19:14.640 --> 00:19:17.119 I don't know if you get much. And you need 377 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:20.519 to know that your co chairmen are not unmindful of 378 00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:23.759 the weather having turned, and how much earlier than most 379 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:26.559 we have to start considering the holiday season to deliver 380 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:30.240 one that is in proportion with prior holiday seasons. Here 381 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:32.960 at the Lapsed Fan, it's always a time of great 382 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:38.880 effort and jubilation and community and fellowship, and certainly this 383 00:19:39.039 --> 00:19:42.119 year's Christmas show coming to you towards the end of 384 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:44.839 the year is going to be no exception. If you're unfamiliar, 385 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:47.799 folks in the Solar System, send to our po box 386 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:50.759 sundry gifts for us to unwrap and react to live 387 00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:53.079 on the pod, and it's just it's one of the 388 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:55.480 most beautiful things in podcasting. It has to be. 389 00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:58.559 Yeah, I agree, Yeah, it has to be, and it 390 00:19:58.640 --> 00:19:59.240 will be, and. 391 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:01.440 It will be, it will be. We've already got bullets 392 00:20:01.480 --> 00:20:03.720 in the chamber, folks wasting no time to make sure 393 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:05.960 they make it onto that that first run live. Boss 394 00:20:06.079 --> 00:20:08.759 and I in the same room recording session. And if 395 00:20:08.799 --> 00:20:10.119 you want to get your gift to us, you're you 396 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:11.799 have a little less time than you think, because if 397 00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:14.039 past this prologue, we're probably going to record this before 398 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:16.039 the middle of November, so you don't have a lot 399 00:20:16.079 --> 00:20:18.480 of time left. The address is the Lapsed Fan PO 400 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:22.079 Box one one nine seven ten Main Street, South Southbury, 401 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:24.960 so O U T H B U R Y, Connecticut. 402 00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:28.359 Zero six four eight eight. Again the Lapsed Fan p O. 403 00:20:28.519 --> 00:20:33.000 Box one one nine seven ten Main Street, South Southbury, Connecticut, 404 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:36.960 zero six four eight eight. Do get your packages to 405 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:41.440 us quickly so that when you co chairman, light the hearth, okay, 406 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:44.680 light the heart. It's going to happen one more time. 407 00:20:44.720 --> 00:20:46.200 And we've got you guys in the Moat tier, the 408 00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:49.000 tip top tier, the most expensive tier, the one that 409 00:20:49.119 --> 00:20:52.039 lets us know, okay, if we really need to identify 410 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:55.039 our ride or dies, We've got a nice convenient list 411 00:20:55.079 --> 00:20:56.519 here of folks that are willing to put that kind 412 00:20:56.519 --> 00:20:59.559 of cake on the table. And we always keep special 413 00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:01.720 considered in mind, I think, as we've proven for our 414 00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:03.559 friends in the Moat Tier around the holiday season as well. 415 00:21:03.559 --> 00:21:05.640 Oh yeah, never too early to think about that. And 416 00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:07.599 if you're wondering about the lapsed fan in your life, 417 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:11.880 there's pro wrestling teas, there's chop teas, there's cameo. There's 418 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:15.359 no shortage of ways to get your hands on things 419 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:18.079 you can proudly fly the flag with. I understand quite recently, Boss, 420 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:20.480 you even managed to get a TLF jacket into the 421 00:21:20.519 --> 00:21:23.559 frame of some unrelated promotional material. 422 00:21:24.079 --> 00:21:28.200 I did. Indeed, I went to go see our our 423 00:21:28.359 --> 00:21:32.480 brother in arms Omar in a play. And you know, 424 00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:36.680 after the show, they were asking some you know, people 425 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:39.759 who were in the audience if they wanted to, uh, 426 00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:43.920 you know, cut a little testimonial promo about the show, 427 00:21:44.519 --> 00:21:47.079 and I said, all right, And I was wearing my 428 00:21:47.839 --> 00:21:53.240 LAPSE Fan windbreaker jacket, and I made sure to keep 429 00:21:53.319 --> 00:21:57.680 that logo front and center, so excellent, always always representing 430 00:21:57.720 --> 00:21:58.079 the brand. 431 00:21:58.240 --> 00:22:00.039 That's the kind of behavior we expect out there. You 432 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:04.000 go to live wrestling shows, We're always thrilled to see 433 00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:05.960 folks get into camera frame or even just to send 434 00:22:06.039 --> 00:22:08.839 us pictures on social media of them flying the TLF 435 00:22:08.920 --> 00:22:11.640 colors at events, or even better, buy one of the 436 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:14.079 shirts where people don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Yeah, 437 00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:16.200 and the chances are high that you'll meet the one 438 00:22:16.319 --> 00:22:19.039 or two TLF fans in the house who are I 439 00:22:19.160 --> 00:22:21.920 think the most likely to be the most worth making 440 00:22:21.960 --> 00:22:24.559 your acquaintance with. Okay, for sure, in an arena full 441 00:22:24.599 --> 00:22:27.319 of pro wrestling fans, I'll pick LAPS fan listeners every time. 442 00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:29.319 And I feel like I can say that even if 443 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:32.240 I wasn't the co creator and co host of the show, 444 00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:34.079 I feel like I was just if I was just 445 00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:36.960 a listener, that would still be a very solid guide engage. 446 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:39.880 I think that's fair based in the quality of people 447 00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:41.960 we have met over the ten years doing this show, 448 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:43.559 and of course, very high on that list is our 449 00:22:43.559 --> 00:22:45.720 good friend Gabe, who we've been trying to keep you 450 00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:48.440 apprized of as he goes through a very challenging open 451 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:51.240 heart surgery. You've known Gabe over the years as we have, 452 00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:54.519 and early indications are that he got through the procedure 453 00:22:54.680 --> 00:22:57.559 and is recovering. We hope to get some more solid 454 00:22:57.640 --> 00:22:59.880 updates as time goes, but again we would urge you 455 00:22:59.880 --> 00:23:02.160 to try to help soften the blow for his family 456 00:23:02.480 --> 00:23:04.519 and his wife with their young child. They've got a 457 00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:08.160 lot to rejigger now with him, you know, in recuperation, 458 00:23:08.720 --> 00:23:10.160 and they go fund me is up just going to 459 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:14.039 Google and type Gaby Oakum Yocum go fund me and 460 00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:15.960 you can find ways to contribute to one of the 461 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:18.519 most solid t Left listeners, one of the most solid 462 00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:21.400 listeners any podcast really could ever hope to have, And 463 00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:24.720 so best wishes on the recovery. If Gabe you're able 464 00:23:24.759 --> 00:23:26.519 to hear this, I'm sure they have quite a bit 465 00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:29.200 of catching up to do and yeah, I don't know, Boss, 466 00:23:29.240 --> 00:23:31.799 should you listen to t LF while recovering from Obenhart surgery. 467 00:23:31.799 --> 00:23:34.599 I feel like that, yes, that could be painful. It 468 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:37.599 could be painful, but I think that's kind of the idea, 469 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:39.440 isn't it. That's a great point right there. 470 00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:41.640 It's not meant to be fun. 471 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:44.599 That's a great point. Well, you know, I always try 472 00:23:44.680 --> 00:23:47.440 to keep in mind the possibility that people who might 473 00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:50.680 not be acquainted with the philosophy the ethos of the cast, 474 00:23:50.720 --> 00:23:52.880 and they hear us say things like it's about pain, 475 00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:54.960 it's not supposed to be fun. I don't think we 476 00:23:55.279 --> 00:23:57.880 take enough time to remind people what we mean when 477 00:23:57.920 --> 00:23:59.599 we say that for those who might not have been 478 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:02.359 there and gestational stages to hear us kind of lay 479 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:05.039 down the philosophical groundwork. If you wouldn't mind, Bossed, just 480 00:24:05.079 --> 00:24:11.279 a quick treatise on that. Well, you know, I think 481 00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:14.119 folks forget. I think folks forget when they start complaining 482 00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:16.400 and sniping and throwing the stink eye. 483 00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:20.200 It's true, you know, people people say shit, People like 484 00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:26.559 to point out stuff and listen, we're not here for you, Okay, 485 00:24:27.599 --> 00:24:29.839 we're here, and we're not We're certainly not here to 486 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:34.000 give you pleasure, because that's not what life is, right. 487 00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:36.480 Life is not about enjoyment. Life is not about having 488 00:24:36.519 --> 00:24:37.079 a good time. 489 00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:39.920 Anybody who's ever tried to make their bones in your 490 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:43.680 life by constantly offering you pleasure will be out of 491 00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:46.000 favor and boring the shit out of you within eight months. 492 00:24:46.079 --> 00:24:49.440 Yeah, and anyone who says you only live once, I mean, 493 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:53.319 they're absolutely right, But that doesn't mean you get to 494 00:24:53.440 --> 00:25:02.599 enjoy it. It's about suffering. It's about understanding that what 495 00:25:04.279 --> 00:25:10.440 you enjoy in one moment is gone after it's done right. 496 00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:16.559 You will never ever get that sort of enjoyment again. 497 00:25:16.599 --> 00:25:21.480 And that hurts because you'll try, you will try as 498 00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:25.359 hard as you can, but you won't get there. And 499 00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:29.359 so we are here to remind you of that, the 500 00:25:29.480 --> 00:25:31.680 fact that, oh my god, it was good, and you 501 00:25:31.799 --> 00:25:36.319 can't have it all day. I could listen to it 502 00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:39.920 all day, all right, And this is the thing. You 503 00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:42.839 know what you want to feel good, You want to 504 00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:46.079 understand what you know. You want to enjoy your next moment. 505 00:25:47.319 --> 00:26:00.640 You need pain without pain, without the absolute detrimental suffering. 506 00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:06.160 You can't enjoy the smallest bit of pleasure I. 507 00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:09.559 Mean, just think about the people who reach the absolute 508 00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:14.720 heights of stardom and how perverted they become. Just think 509 00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:17.319 about that, Just think about how far they have to 510 00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:20.720 stretch the old every day, yes, the Overton window in 511 00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:24.319 terms of what they go for. It's because what you 512 00:26:24.440 --> 00:26:28.279 think is pleasure, if you had unfettered access to it 513 00:26:28.359 --> 00:26:31.119 without intermittent pain, you would actually find yourself trying to 514 00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:35.359 insert the pain so that the pleasure actually felt deserved, 515 00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:38.160 and so that you could discern the pleasure from the pain, 516 00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:39.920 because they share way more in common than they do 517 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:43.359 a part. Absolutely, pain and pleasure are the exact same. 518 00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:46.599 And told, maybe that last step across the threshold and 519 00:26:46.759 --> 00:26:50.920 the thing is where we thrive the most is on 520 00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:56.960 that tiny, tiny, tiny little thread, that tiny part of 521 00:26:57.039 --> 00:27:02.880 the fence that separates pain and pleasure. So you don't 522 00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:07.960 know exactly which we're giving you, Yes, it's so true 523 00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:11.400 to ELFX. Bitch, What the fuck do you know about it? 524 00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:15.759 Absolutely nothing? Not the first thing. Just let us serenade 525 00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:18.799 you and keep your mouth shut, right, that's the only 526 00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:23.559 way it can work. And you know, you hear folks say, 527 00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:25.880 you know when you pine for the past, you know 528 00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:28.240 for ten years, we've been trying to interrogate not only 529 00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:30.039 wrestling history, but the nature of nostalgia. 530 00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:30.240 Right. 531 00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:33.319 Yes, we constantly try to ask ourselves why is it 532 00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:35.880 that we go back and feel the way we feel 533 00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:38.160 about these things visa via the current day. And it's 534 00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:40.119 not just old wrestling compared to new wrestling. It's old 535 00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:43.720 anything compared to do anything. For the most part, just 536 00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:45.759 about everything used to be better. And we've talked about 537 00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:47.519 things that might be better now, and we're willing to 538 00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:51.359 allow the point for sure. But I've heard it positive 539 00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:53.880 and I'm not exactly sure where there's probably something like 540 00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:58.039 real video or something. What you miss is being young, 541 00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:02.480 That's what you miss, and I get it. But I 542 00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:05.279 can't sign on to that. You know why, because when 543 00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:08.000 I go back and when I watch stuff from when 544 00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:12.240 we had society much more better calibrated. Yep, when the 545 00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:17.319 cell phone didn't destroy your ability to enjoy anything. We 546 00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:20.519 had a situation where I find myself, you don't if 547 00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:23.880 I go back and watch an old movie, If I 548 00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:26.440 go back and watch planes, trains, and automobiles, oh yeah, 549 00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:30.680 I don't want to be I'm not nostalgic for that movie. 550 00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:33.359 I don't think that movie is better than what we 551 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:36.279 have today, because I want to be as young as 552 00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:39.440 I was when that movie came out. I want to 553 00:28:39.480 --> 00:28:44.960 be an adult when that movie took place. Yes, that's 554 00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:47.200 what you're missing. It's not that I miss being young, 555 00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:49.079 it said, I feel like I was robbed of the 556 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:52.519 chance to be an adult at a time when things 557 00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:54.279 were easier to enjoy. 558 00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:58.079 No, I mean it's also it's also like you know, 559 00:28:58.200 --> 00:29:00.920 when you experience it's what part of it is too, 560 00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:05.519 is they like they always say, like you witness things 561 00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:10.359 that you can't appreciate when you're young. Yeah, in many ways, 562 00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:12.799 you know, you're almost better off just being left alone 563 00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:16.079 in a box, right for eighteen years, and then being 564 00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:18.960 let free and then being allowed to explore the. 565 00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:22.440 World, and not just eighteen years these eighteen years. Yes, 566 00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:25.039 we are products of a particular time period in generation. 567 00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:27.599 When we talk about, yes, the Golden Era being the 568 00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:31.200 Hasbro era, that's because everything was clicked into place and 569 00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:34.039 we had it. We had the right alchemy, I swear 570 00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:35.480 we did, and we let. 571 00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:40.680 The best we're the best toys, we had the best cereal, and. 572 00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:43.279 We let it slip, you know, yep, because we turned 573 00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:46.519 into an attention economy without meditating enough on what that 574 00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:49.039 would mean for our humanity over time. And now we're 575 00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:52.680 fucked on that front. Now we can't even really deal 576 00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:55.160 with each other. And the only thing that gets us 577 00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:57.559 up in the morning is having a sport fight on 578 00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:03.279 our phones of some type or other. And it's it's 579 00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:05.000 a it's a situation that I'm not sure we're going 580 00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:06.799 to come back from. At the very least, I can't 581 00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:09.839 be blamed for stressed out as Steve Martin is in planes, 582 00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:13.480 trains and automobiles when he walks, when he when he 583 00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:17.720 gets back to his house, that's what's up, and that's gone, 584 00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:19.759 that's gone. 585 00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:20.279 Well. 586 00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:22.720 I mean, you know, think about like this too. That 587 00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:25.720 whole movie is just like impossible, now, That's what I mean. 588 00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:26.720 It can't. 589 00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:29.279 His return home wouldn't mean anything because he would have 590 00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:31.400 been texting and face timing, and he would have been. 591 00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:37.480 Rebooking, yeah, and updating his Instagram story. 592 00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:39.519 And all of these things would have felt like the 593 00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:42.680 advantage technology gives him in the modern day to navigate 594 00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:46.839 around inconvenience without stopping to consider that life is about inconvenience. 595 00:30:46.920 --> 00:30:54.640 You fucking morons, You fucking morons. If everything's convenient, nothing 596 00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:57.079 is convenient. If everything is easy, nothing. 597 00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:00.480 What you need to really realize sooner than is that 598 00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:05.920 inconvenience is what is what drives people. It's correct, correct, 599 00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:08.759 right Like, if everything was convenient, we wouldn't do anything. 600 00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:12.400 It's not something to be solved for. It is something 601 00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:18.119 to figure out within yourself how to countenance and a generations. 602 00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:20.200 That's another thing I resent. It's not that I'm not 603 00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:23.359 young anymore. It's that my kids can't grow up in 604 00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:27.960 the same social conditions and the same technological conditions. It's 605 00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:30.200 not we didn't have anything. I'm not pining for the 606 00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:33.039 days with no electricity, folks, and there are trade offs. 607 00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:34.960 I'm certainly not pining for the days that you could 608 00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:38.039 get you know, fucking lung cancer by inhaling smoke in 609 00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:44.119 an airplane. But I'm telling you I don't want to 610 00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:45.680 say I want to say this as bluntly, but I 611 00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:47.720 don't think there were as many kids hanging from door frames, 612 00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:50.559 you know what I mean? I mean, do I need 613 00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:55.240 to be straightforward about that? I just find myself upon. 614 00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:57.880 Sing at the very least there weren't There weren't nearly 615 00:31:57.920 --> 00:31:58.519 as many. 616 00:31:58.839 --> 00:32:02.160 School shootings totally thank you. That's an even better example 617 00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:05.160 that just did that. The stakes weren't as high every 618 00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:08.559 day and we have this very uneasy we've made this 619 00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:13.000 uneasy piece with this powder keg situation that we find 620 00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:16.160 ourselves living in all the time. And you can't tell 621 00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:18.559 me that that was the case in the day's I 622 00:32:18.680 --> 00:32:25.200 pine for. So what do you expect and why? Why 623 00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:27.119 do you think it makes sense that so many people 624 00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:28.799 are willing to put down the cake to tell us 625 00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:33.480 to keep going, go faster, go further, go harder into 626 00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:37.319 the past into assessing what it was that made it good. 627 00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:40.640 Maybe I don't know, so perhaps we can try to 628 00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:42.599 keep a little bit of that flame lit in the 629 00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:45.759 current day, LA Fan. 630 00:32:45.799 --> 00:33:01.319 Wrestling podcast, the wrestling pod cast that knows the boys 631 00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:19.519 need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. He's a Lapsed 632 00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:24.039 Fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnaco and JP Soorro. 633 00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:28.359 Something I think about upon TLFX and we're rocking and rolling. 634 00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:31.880 We're going to continue paying tribute to sid and we 635 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:36.119 do deeply appreciate your support and doing so, we'll go forward. 636 00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:39.400 So the Psycho Moniker, it may have stung more post 637 00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:41.559 the nineteen ninety three incident with arn Ederson. But now 638 00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:44.920 it was a new lease on life for Sid. I 639 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:47.880 said that had now walked out boss on three contracts 640 00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:51.440 with the Big Two. I mean we realize this, right, 641 00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:55.039 he has walked out. I mean think about that. 642 00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:56.319 How many? 643 00:33:56.519 --> 00:34:03.319 How many? How many could how many companies can somebody 644 00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:07.640 walk out of in normal nine to five day jobs 645 00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:13.480 and still be that desirable and still be like hey, 646 00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:17.920 and have achieved so little objectively on paper? Right? 647 00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:20.159 You know, if you were to assess him empirically against 648 00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:23.599 other main eventors or top guys of his era, like, 649 00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:26.239 how can this guy command this much money? Are we 650 00:34:26.360 --> 00:34:31.079 really marks like that for traps? Yeah, and a guy 651 00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:34.360 that waterflies off his head when he flickses his head 652 00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:36.079 to the right in the middle of the ring. Sid 653 00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:39.400 is incredibly charismatic. He was born to be a progressing superstar. 654 00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:42.079 But this is a little much if you ask me, 655 00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:46.159 I mean, it's true, like it's it's the fact that 656 00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:48.239 after the arm thing, he's about to run away with 657 00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:50.760 the bag of his career and enter his top earning 658 00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:54.400 years instead of a period of time where he's a pariah. 659 00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:57.599 Is is truly remarkable? Now, I mean geez. At least 660 00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.679 Vince took a year. Fucking Do you think Babrahams was 661 00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:03.159 ready to go? Do you think he had his phone 662 00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:05.920 number right away? Do you think USWA down in Memphis, 663 00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:08.320 where of course Sid is from and started his career, 664 00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:09.800 as we talked about in the very beginning of this 665 00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:12.920 tribute to Sid, was ready to book him under Jerry Lawler. 666 00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:16.239 Of course they were. Sid didn't stay that unbusy from 667 00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:18.440 a pro wrestling perspective in nineteen ninety four. In fact, 668 00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:22.000 despite this all falling apart in October November of nineteen 669 00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:24.719 ninety three, WCW, by April he was wrestling at the 670 00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:27.519 Trump taj Mahal of all places, Oh my God, where 671 00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:30.960 an organization called the WWWA ran a couple of cards, 672 00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:33.960 including one in April where Tito Santana defeated Sid by 673 00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:37.280 disqualification there in Atlantic City. There was that time period 674 00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:40.159 kind of after I don't know, mid nineties. I would 675 00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:46.440 say after WCW had hit like truly the skids, that 676 00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:49.320 a lot of organizations were trying. Like we talked about this, 677 00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:54.119 a lot, DRIK lapsed. Funk Eastern Championship became ECW Crockett 678 00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:58.159 Junior tried to do something like the World Wrestling Network 679 00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:02.679 was the AWF, the American Wrestling Federation, which got a 680 00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:05.480 bunch of syndicated stations, and Tito Santana was involved along 681 00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:08.679 with Sergeant Slaughter in that. With the AWA collapsing to 682 00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:11.199 in the early nineties, that that kind of left open 683 00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:15.000 some opportunities that people tried to fill. And there were 684 00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:16.920 just a ton I mean, you remember looking through PWI 685 00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:19.559 in the nineties like they were just oh yeah, IWCCW, 686 00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:20.119 you know. 687 00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:23.480 Oh fuck yeah. I mean, we're talking just so many, 688 00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:27.920 so many glorious little promotions, and. 689 00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:31.039 You're reading around ninety four they always talk about USWA, 690 00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:33.199 like Lawler always had a great relationship with Bill. After 691 00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:36.199 going back to the Andy Kaufman stuff, they're presenting Lawler 692 00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:40.760 and Brian Christopher, his son Brian Lawler and and guys 693 00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:43.840 who are headlining in this last vestige of the old 694 00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:46.119 territories down in Memphis, Tennessee. They're still presenting them in 695 00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:48.760 the pages of the Leading National Wrestling after MAGS the 696 00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:52.760 National Ones as champions worth thinking about right in the 697 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:56.760 same breath as the WWF and WWCW champions. Yeap, of 698 00:36:56.880 --> 00:36:59.800 course talked about those rankings, right, tell them about that. 699 00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:02.320 And you're looking at You're looking down these names, You're like. 700 00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:05.280 Who is this? Now, what's the USWA? You used to 701 00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:09.320 have no fucking idea who so many of these clowns were. 702 00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:11.639 But that was what was so exciting, because it's like, well, 703 00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:14.440 wait a minute, they're valuable someplace, Like I don't think 704 00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:17.280 I ever thought the term valuable in my actual brain, yeah, 705 00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:20.079 when that was happening, But there was an idea that like, 706 00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:24.400 wait a minute, somebody cares about him, and why yes? 707 00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:27.079 And how can I care about him? How can he 708 00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:29.000 lay claim to being a world champion. This is, of course, 709 00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:30.679 at a time when we as fans still thought that 710 00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:34.400 that carried some kind of designation. It didn't really occur 711 00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:36.159 to us that any promoter could call their title the 712 00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:36.679 world title. 713 00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:38.599 But here's the thing. Any promoter could call their title 714 00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:40.880 the world title, but that wouldn't necessarily get p WI 715 00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:43.519 to publish it as a world champion. Right, And you 716 00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:46.079 got global that tries to get coming on ESPN. You've 717 00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:48.280 got all these these attempts in the nineties to pick 718 00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:51.639 up the pieces of these closing territories. The USWA was 719 00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:53.920 the outgrowth of the c WA, the Memphis Territories. We 720 00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:56.440 all know it. Lawler still owns the place, and Jerry 721 00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:59.400 Jarrett's still involved, and they're still doing you know, Saturday 722 00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:03.039 morning studio wrestling on WMCTV, and there's ten people in 723 00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:05.079 the audience, and they're still trying to run in the 724 00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:07.480 Mid South Colosseum every Monday night that Lawler sold out 725 00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.679 for generations, it seemed like, and that's kind of the 726 00:38:11.119 --> 00:38:13.159 last place to go if you're not one of the 727 00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:15.000 big two. That feels like the old way of making 728 00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:17.320 money in the business. And of course for Sid it's 729 00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:20.159 home geographically in a lot of ways, right. So by 730 00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:22.519 the summer of ninety four, he is in the USWA 731 00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:25.039 working the Mid South Colosseum again, where he formally wrestled 732 00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:29.119 as Lord Humongous I'm so Crazy wrestling the likes of 733 00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:34.440 Jeff Gaylord for the USWA Universal Unified rather World Heavyweight title. 734 00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:36.960 And in the beginning of this USWA run he's softer. 735 00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:41.360 You can tell he's not necessarily being as as religious 736 00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:45.000 and as I don't know, self conscious about the look. Yeah, 737 00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:47.480 one thing, I think we've really laid baar here in 738 00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:49.960 looking at the thing. Sid has said, and others have 739 00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:52.400 said about his psychology of the business, like, he really 740 00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:54.880 doesn't want to be on camera unless he can look 741 00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:56.559 like Sid. And he knows what it takes to look 742 00:38:56.639 --> 00:38:59.239 like Sid, and he can't do it overnight. And so 743 00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:02.400 he's got a really get the potion just right dial 744 00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:04.199 in the let's just say he's going to get on 745 00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:04.800 the right cycle. 746 00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:08.719 Oh it makes you think, yeah, like absolutely. 747 00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:09.599 Cycle Sid is Dave Meltzer. 748 00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:11.440 Yes, cycle. 749 00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:14.559 It is a cyclical business, boss, is it not? What 750 00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:18.760 cycles are we talking about? Is the question? What cycles 751 00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:20.239 are we talking about? Is the question? 752 00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:23.400 I know exactly what fucking cycle he's talking about. 753 00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:25.079 So loose, a little soft. He's got darker hair. You 754 00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:27.880 would have been very alarmed by his early USWA hair. 755 00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:29.880 If his psycho Sid hair bothers you, this is a 756 00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:32.760 whole other issue. Like it gets darker brown, it's never 757 00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:34.760 it's not quite as wet as it needs to be. 758 00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:40.000 But he's on TV and he's he's content, apparently to 759 00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:44.400 uh to return to this scale of of enterprise in 760 00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:46.280 the wrestling business for someone that thought it was worth 761 00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:48.760 fucking three quarters of a million dollars at the snap 762 00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:52.079 of a finger. Here he is on an episode of 763 00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:55.039 us W a local television, but of course Lance Russell 764 00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:58.159 and Dave Brown the signature of voices of Memphis Wrestling 765 00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:00.639 calling the action at the desk, and as he would 766 00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:02.880 do when he was on the road, Jerry Lawler would 767 00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:04.960 phone in so that he could have pretty much a 768 00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:06.280 weekly presence on the television. 769 00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:08.880 From what I've seen these phones in a lot, he felt. 770 00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:11.719 Yeah, yeah, he did it figuratively and literally in those days. 771 00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.920 But on set, engaging in a bit of a debate 772 00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:19.199 with the phoning in Jerry Lawler is none other than Sid. 773 00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:22.639 Here's what Sid was doing after he disappeared from the 774 00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:25.079 National Spotlight. And you couldn't see or hear any of 775 00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:26.920 this at the time unless you were living in Memphis 776 00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:27.840 or trading tapes. 777 00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:33.079 Anyway. Yeah, we're going to be in Victoria there tomorrow afternoon, 778 00:40:33.719 --> 00:40:38.800 and then unfortunately I had right back out for gosh, 779 00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:42.320 I've got three more days of wrestling for them, and 780 00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:43.880 then I'm going to be back on for a while. 781 00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:46.760 All right, Well, it just seems like forever. 782 00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:47.119 I know. 783 00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:49.519 I think I was going one time when you were here, 784 00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:52.119 and I haven't seen you in about a month. 785 00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:54.320 And yeah, King, I hadn't seen you in a long time. 786 00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:54.880 This is Dave. 787 00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:55.840 I was at the specer men. 788 00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:58.519 Well wait a minute, Jerry, here comes saying that. 789 00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:01.360 Vicious and spike you. 790 00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:02.679 Jerry, God. 791 00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:07.920 Said, will you just let us fin He says, sit 792 00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:11.559 here on the phone, and you tell everybody's sitting here. 793 00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:15.559 Everybody's sitting at home watching TV. I'm off of Florida. 794 00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:19.199 I might be in Canada, but the truth is Roller 795 00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:22.000 you're sitting at your house right here in the city 796 00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:25.199 of Memphis. He is, You're locked up for your product, 797 00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:28.760 and you are scared, fat, bad. 798 00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:34.840 Yes, people that worship you and there they call you 799 00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:35.400 the king. 800 00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:36.840 Why is it? 801 00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:42.039 Would tell you, Lawler, you aren't scared towers and the 802 00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:47.159 people are looking right now. It's the uncrowned king, the 803 00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:53.239 uncrowding of civilized killers, my friend. And before I'll leave. 804 00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:57.199 The usw say it be a year, ten years, you 805 00:41:57.519 --> 00:41:59.920 laller and everybody want you. 806 00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:13.199 There goes Uh said, law Jesus, will you get back 807 00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:15.199 here and beat this sucker up. 808 00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:19.199 He's around here slamming and hurting everybody he can get 809 00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:20.599 anywhere near Jerry. 810 00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:24.159 It is absolutely ridiculous of stuff that Visius has done 811 00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:27.440 since he's been here. Are you with us? 812 00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:35.679 Nope? Oh we still got him? Nope, lose a connection. 813 00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:37.599 Yeah, we lost the connection in there. 814 00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:42.639 Uh, let's hold on here a second. Let me see 815 00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:45.760 if I can. Well, I don't know whether and. 816 00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:48.280 They don't figure it out. I'd love to know it's 817 00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:50.480 not a bunch of idiots apparent if that was like 818 00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:53.239 a shoot, or if if Lawler, like for dramatic effect, 819 00:42:53.320 --> 00:42:54.679 just hangs up the phone, because I think it kind 820 00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:55.880 of works a little bit, if he did it on 821 00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:59.199 purpose work. Yeah, and he doesn't know, he's kind of 822 00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:02.119 like he's so pissed that he doesn't even want to 823 00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:04.920 say what's on his mind with Sid interrupting him like that, 824 00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:06.320 or he is a little shook, you know. 825 00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:07.679 Yeah, I think it's great. 826 00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:11.719 Sid there was accompanied by Spike Huber, who is the 827 00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:13.519 son in law of Dick the Bruiser and had a 828 00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:17.760 career throughout the Midwest throughout the eighties and by the 829 00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:22.079 nineties was working down in Memphis. So that's what Sid's 830 00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:25.440 doing for the time being over there. He also gets 831 00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:28.159 involved when herb Abrams sets up shop again for the 832 00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:31.559 UWF Black Jack Brawl pay per view in Las Vegas. 833 00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:35.119 God took place September twenty third of nineteen ninety four. Boss, 834 00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:38.119 you may have recalled from our episode on herb Abrams 835 00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:39.920 when we partnered with the guys that Dark Side of 836 00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:42.320 the Ring for the Unheard podcast, we spent a lot 837 00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:44.840 of time digging into some of the unaired clips about 838 00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:47.440 this show, this event, and the fall of ninety four 839 00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:50.679 where they somehow, despite no track record of success and 840 00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:53.639 essentially being dark for two years, secured one of the 841 00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:57.920 premium sports venues on the strip at the MGM Grand 842 00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:00.880 Garden Arena and no one was there and no one 843 00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:03.800 cared and it was a disaster. That sounds about right, 844 00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:07.000 And you know, her played all kinds of fascinating games, 845 00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:09.639 according to guys like Stevie Ray and others who spoke 846 00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:12.519 to the producers of Dark Side of the Ring to 847 00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:15.079 kind of create this impression that, like, you know, you 848 00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:17.599 probably should front us some money here. We're a little short, 849 00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:20.159 and it'll be it'll be a black mark on all 850 00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:21.639 of us if we have to cancel the show at 851 00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:25.800 this juncture, and somehow convincing these these hot shots in 852 00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:27.440 Vegas to just come out of pocket for like one 853 00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:30.440 hundred grand that they'll never see back and this was 854 00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:33.079 the last hurrah for herb Abrams and he saw that 855 00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:36.599 he found in that budget money to pay Sid. Sid 856 00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:40.880 comes in. Sid wrestles Doctor Death Steve Williams for the 857 00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:43.800 UWF World Heavyweight title on the Blackjack Brawl. 858 00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:46.280 That's insane. 859 00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:48.159 And they go out there and they actually try like 860 00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:50.159 Sid takes a belly to belly off the top rope. 861 00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:52.639 By shit, you not, are you kidding me? Yep? 862 00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:55.840 He does. He tries to bump Steve Williams give him 863 00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:57.639 the doctor Bomb. They got wrenched power bomb as well. 864 00:44:57.760 --> 00:44:59.360 And the ring. I don't know what the deal was 865 00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:02.679 with this JANKI it basically breaks during the course of 866 00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:05.039 the contest. You have like a almost like a bubble 867 00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:07.079 pop up underneath the matt and the center of the ring, 868 00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:09.840 indicating that the boards had shifted or something had something 869 00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:13.559 was very seriously wrong underneath this mat and it happens 870 00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:16.000 during the course of these two giants pumping around in it. 871 00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:18.639 But you know, Sid didn't do much more than just 872 00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:20.760 work this one match with Steve and UWF. It's not 873 00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:22.400 like there's a whole bunch of promos or anything out 874 00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:24.360 there that you can discover from what I saw on 875 00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:27.079 the broadcast, they actually do an interview with Sid backstage, 876 00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:32.719 but they're so they're so incapable from a production standpoint 877 00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:34.719 that you can't even hear the audio of Sid's interview 878 00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:38.559 on the broadcast. You cannot hear. It's understated, to say 879 00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:42.880 the least. But bost you know, I guess what the 880 00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:46.559 UWF run creates the question of is we've talked about 881 00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:50.079 Sid Justice, We've talked about Sid Vicious, We've talked about 882 00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:52.360 psycho Sid. Do you know what they called them in UWF? 883 00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:55.760 Ah, Sid the clown? 884 00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:57.920 Are you ready for malicious Sid Vicious? 885 00:45:58.039 --> 00:45:58.239 Oh? 886 00:45:58.639 --> 00:45:59.679 No, come on really? 887 00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.519 Versus malicious being a word used by Oran Anderson in 888 00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:05.400 his lawsuit against Sid for stabbing him. So yes, I 889 00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:08.880 guess malicious was. I guess they were deeply amused by 890 00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:11.159 the Sid stabbing incident and decided to use that as 891 00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:15.199 his moniker in DUWF. And after that short run, if 892 00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:17.559 you can call one match a run, he goes to 893 00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:21.639 back USWA, which he worked in premittently throughout nineteen ninety four, including, 894 00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:23.800 of course, as we mentioned, winning their world title. He 895 00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:27.079 even wrestles Lord Humongous. I don't know who it was, 896 00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:28.320 but Sid wow? 897 00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:28.639 Really? 898 00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:31.079 Yes? On October tenth of nineteen ninety four, the Mid 899 00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:33.679 South Colosseum, Sid Vicious defeats Lord Humuongus to retain the 900 00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:37.840 USWA Unified World Heavyweight title and not. On October seventeenth 901 00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:41.320 of nineteen ninety four, give you three guesses who you 902 00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:42.960 think Sid defended the belt against. 903 00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:43.199 On this show. 904 00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:58.760 Harvey Whippleman No, Hulk Hogan Yes, no, o kidding? Jerry 905 00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:03.559 Lawler No, the Undertaker get out of town. Really, let's 906 00:47:03.559 --> 00:47:09.440 think about it. Nineteen ninety four Lawler, Oh, yeah, Vince 907 00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:13.599 going to Memphis to practice his heel mannerisms. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 908 00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:17.559 Let's not forget that. That's one of the true one 909 00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:20.159 of the fascinating things. Something that the McMahon documentary on 910 00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:22.800 Netflix totally misses that the guy already knew how to 911 00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:25.480 play a heel because of this Memphis run where he went. 912 00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:26.840 Down there, because he lived his life. 913 00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:29.840 Of course there's that due, but he was ready for 914 00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:32.840 the attitude of a man because he played that Vince 915 00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:35.239 McMahon that was trying to stop Steve Austin from breaking 916 00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:37.559 out of the corporate mold in the very beginning that 917 00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:39.840 Vince is the guy that goes down to USWA and 918 00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:41.599 just kind of has his nose up just a little 919 00:47:41.639 --> 00:47:44.480 bit at these Southern fans, you know, not too much, 920 00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:46.039 but just enough to make him want to ring his 921 00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:49.840 fucking neck. Of course, he's so good at it, and 922 00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:53.159 he doesn't act maniacal, he doesn't act mcavellian. He just acts, 923 00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:56.920 you know, like a piece of shit from Connecticut. And 924 00:47:57.280 --> 00:48:00.920 it's amazing stuff. And this is all happening in ninety four, 925 00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:04.800 the same around the same time, I guess, not coincidentally, 926 00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:09.199 that the WWF is considering tapping Jerry Jarrett to take 927 00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:12.000 over business affairs if Fence gets put behind bars. Oh, 928 00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:15.679 of course that makes sense another USWA proprietor. So the 929 00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:18.239 bonds between the Memphis office and the WWF are as 930 00:48:18.280 --> 00:48:20.840 strong as perhaps they ever were in the year of 931 00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:23.920 nineteen ninety four, and it's not uncommon to see Undertaker 932 00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:26.639 come through and work USWA shows to help boost the house. 933 00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:29.559 This is where they get Comma from Charles Wright as 934 00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:31.119 he starts his career. This is where they get Kane. 935 00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:35.199 Oh sure Kine as well comes through. It's hell razer 936 00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:39.519 here at first, and there's basically you know, it's not 937 00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:41.679 unlike the arrangement they kind of had with ECW, where 938 00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:43.559 guys that they wanted to put some polish on would 939 00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:46.559 get sent down there. They look for new recruits, and 940 00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:49.599 there would be sort of like a first option on 941 00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:52.880 the talents that were working that circuit as opposed to 942 00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:55.719 go into WCW and yeah, ever now and then to 943 00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:58.679 help boost the house, they'd send guys of Utterertaker's caliber 944 00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:01.840 down there. And sin has said basically that he considers 945 00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:04.239 this kind of thing. In nineteen ninety four, the WWF 946 00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:07.199 trying to figure out if sid Is is hireable again. 947 00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:10.320 So it's not just like a sudden as some would 948 00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:13.880 like to to present it, snap decision in nineteen ninety 949 00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:15.840 five to heat up Sean and Diesel. 950 00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:18.599 Well, let's say I I because that's not even you 951 00:49:18.639 --> 00:49:20.199 know when you think about it's not even gonna snap 952 00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:24.840 whatever you just call that snap decision. Yeah, yeah, because 953 00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:27.079 you know that would have been that would have been 954 00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:29.239 in ninety three when he left. You know, like it's 955 00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:32.599 obviously you know, you know, he's not as I don't know, 956 00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:34.159 to me, that would have been more of the time. 957 00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:36.880 So like this is actually just like raving him and 958 00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:40.920 watching him and seeing, you know, if he can, if 959 00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:42.559 he's if he is valuable. 960 00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:44.480 Right, and a Jerry Lawler who you know played no 961 00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:46.760 small part in getting Sid into the business as we 962 00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:48.840 touched about it in the first place, and someone who 963 00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:50.960 I think WWF would probably trust the word of as 964 00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:53.760 to whether he was you know, back and performing at 965 00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:57.639 a level that would make him manageable from a Big 966 00:49:57.679 --> 00:49:59.639 two standpoint, because what becomes the case with Sid is 967 00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:03.320 nothing when doubting he's he's an impact player, but whether 968 00:50:03.400 --> 00:50:06.360 he's worth the hassle that you know he's going to bring. 969 00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:11.119 Has he learned anything about how to relate to other 970 00:50:11.239 --> 00:50:13.360 human beings in a better way such that we're not 971 00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:15.760 going to have the prototypical blow up. Of course, the 972 00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:17.679 longer you look at Sid's career, the more you realize 973 00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:20.360 those blow ups are probably by design. He's going to 974 00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:22.239 find a reason to get mad when he want, whenever 975 00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:25.079 he wants to leave. It's been a manufacturer reason to 976 00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:26.400 feel insulted or slighted. 977 00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:28.000 He's such a fool. 978 00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:31.880 But nonetheless, you know this is coming off the stabbing, 979 00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:33.440 and people don't know what they're dealing with. They don't 980 00:50:33.440 --> 00:50:35.239 know if this is a guy who can figure out 981 00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:37.599 how to get along with guys in the locker room again. 982 00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:39.840 So I think a lot of these months in the 983 00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:42.800 US ware are kind of like a stealth mission from 984 00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:45.639 WWF in cooperation with Jerry lawlerd to see what they've 985 00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:48.599 got here. And one Undertaker comes through. It was similar. 986 00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:50.800 It's kind of how Godfather got his job. It's kind 987 00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:53.639 of how Cain got his job versus II Gangam. This 988 00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:55.639 Taker goes down to Memphis and works him and comes 989 00:50:55.719 --> 00:50:57.960 back and is he a big man you can work with? 990 00:50:58.239 --> 00:50:58.360 Right? 991 00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:00.719 Is he a big man that that can fit into 992 00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:03.559 our system? Absolutely? Or absolutely not? And you see the 993 00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:06.239 results from there. So they wrestle for about ten minutes 994 00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:08.679 again in the Mid South Colisseum on October seventeenth of 995 00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:11.800 nineteen ninety four. This is Undertaker with Paul Behrer in 996 00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:13.679 the Purple. This is the Purple era, of course. 997 00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:16.800 Oh God, I can't believe you're down. They are wrestling 998 00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:17.280 in Purple. 999 00:51:18.559 --> 00:51:22.239 It's jarring to see. I mean, you know, we know 1000 00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:27.760 there's nothing more fascinating than prime WWF guys working non 1001 00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:31.119 WWF shows. That's the whole paint off the Pacific Journey. 1002 00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:33.960 That's the whole point of it to see the Hogan. 1003 00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:37.559 We need, the savage, we need try to get three 1004 00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:42.239 and a half stars in tokyot. Try to get stacked 1005 00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:45.360 up with power bombs and kick out it too, you know, 1006 00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:49.960 try to hit power lariats. Yes, and so it's kind 1007 00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:52.920 of a version of that to see guys like Huntertaker 1008 00:51:53.440 --> 00:51:57.119 and others go down there and work at USWA. After that, 1009 00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:01.480 the next week he wrestles Mabel. Sid wrestles Mabel. 1010 00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:03.639 Oh, come on, does he power bomb him? 1011 00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:06.360 No, He's just not power bomb him. This of course 1012 00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:09.920 is post Mabel headlining SummerSlam. That no, heading into said 1013 00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:12.920 lighting SummerSlam the next year, that would be the next year. Yeah, 1014 00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:14.639 and win King of the Roles right now. So this 1015 00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:17.039 is preparing for the push of his life. And he 1016 00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:21.599 gets some work with Sid beforehand. Mabel yea and the 1017 00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:26.519 go to Louisville and Lex Luger comes down to wrestle 1018 00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:28.159 Sid in November of nineteen ninety four. 1019 00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:32.239 That's actually, you know, on paper, that's an intriguing matchup. 1020 00:52:32.280 --> 00:52:32.760 I won't mind. 1021 00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:35.000 I would have thought, yeah, if if Luger won the 1022 00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:37.719 belt in ninety three, ninety fours, he just should have 1023 00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:41.000 really and I think Sid would have been a great 1024 00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:44.119 early opponent for him. Sid coming out of the would 1025 00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:46.159 work like after he wins the belt and attacking him. 1026 00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:50.639 That'd have been amazing. Absolutely, And we never really got 1027 00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:53.639 the program in WCW either. So we talked about when 1028 00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:56.880 Sid came back from the softball injury, the lung injury 1029 00:52:56.960 --> 00:52:58.920 that became your fucking plane softball, he had to do 1030 00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:01.679 a tenseecond job to Lex Lugner on a clash, and 1031 00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:04.599 then they never really they never really circled back to it. 1032 00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:07.079 That would have been the design if he hadn't left 1033 00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:10.119 for New York, but never got there. But yeah, they 1034 00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:11.960 get to clash Lex Lucra. Of course by this point 1035 00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:14.039 the All American were red, white and blue stripes. But 1036 00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:16.800 definitely on the Wayne, definitely on the downside. He's headed 1037 00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:19.840 towards the Allied Powers thing as opposed to much of 1038 00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:23.199 a singles run in WWF here in November Meta. 1039 00:53:23.079 --> 00:53:25.920 Four, Oh yeah, absolutely, that's where we got in line 1040 00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:28.400 for Lukes for. 1041 00:53:28.519 --> 00:53:30.360 Luke's and in that undertaker match it ended in a 1042 00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:33.679 disqualification when a wrestler went by the name of Spellbinder 1043 00:53:33.719 --> 00:53:38.440 and who had a brief uh uh syndicated TV squash 1044 00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:41.800 Job series of matches for WWF as the magician. What 1045 00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:43.599 the hell they call him? Fantasmo. Have you ever seen 1046 00:53:43.639 --> 00:53:43.960 this guy? 1047 00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:44.360 No? 1048 00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:46.960 Yeah, they brought him in, they they held him, worked 1049 00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:48.639 a couple of tapings. He was like a magician in 1050 00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:50.280 the ring. He had white face paint on, like a 1051 00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:53.000 mime almost, and he would like do a magic trick 1052 00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:55.320 to distract his opponent and then roll him up. This 1053 00:53:55.559 --> 00:53:59.599 fucking had no chance, no chance at all. But again 1054 00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:03.400 another example of that USWAWWF talent exchange that was very 1055 00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:05.679 much going on in nineteen ninety four, and they were 1056 00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:08.199 doing it with Smoky Mountain as well. Of course, right, yeah, 1057 00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:10.760 of course that's how Jim Cornette gets the commentary in 1058 00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:13.719 the front office role as well. And heavenly bodies come. 1059 00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:16.079 In and bodies and then we get the fucking rock 1060 00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:17.440 and roll Express, for God's. 1061 00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:20.239 Sake, sure do in the WWF ring. Bizarre it is 1062 00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:23.599 so the undertaker Manchens and DQ and Spellbinder runs in, 1063 00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:28.360 allowing Sid to remain the champion. And here's a promo 1064 00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:31.519 that Sid cut after that match, turning his attention to 1065 00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:35.039 Jerry Lawler and Jerry's son Brian Christopher, who he also 1066 00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:36.679 worked against in nineteen ninety four. 1067 00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:41.599 See Everywhere looking big letters, it says five thousand dollars 1068 00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:44.519 from a man who wins the battle royld Well. 1069 00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:47.280 That sounds big, doesn't it. Well a lot of people 1070 00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:48.840 might be even excited about it. 1071 00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:51.719 But what it says to me when I say it, 1072 00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:55.159 Claire the smell explain it did any more? 1073 00:54:55.719 --> 00:54:58.119 Waity hell some specials. 1074 00:54:57.679 --> 00:54:59.039 On the US wa. 1075 00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:02.320 See, we will not fall for it. 1076 00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:03.800 I know what you're up to. 1077 00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:08.920 He's a sacred plan to put somebody I. 1078 00:55:09.039 --> 00:55:10.119 Just said vicious. 1079 00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:11.880 See what you're gonna do. 1080 00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:17.000 You'll have him ten twenty thirty, forty fifty people there. 1081 00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:22.039 We'll say, I won't have a chance to prepare. I 1082 00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:25.199 won't have a chance to know who the man is, 1083 00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:27.719 or maybe know about how he is, or what he's 1084 00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:29.599 gonna do or what he might bring. 1085 00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:31.519 See. 1086 00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:34.639 That's what the whole scheme is, isn't it. 1087 00:55:35.639 --> 00:55:39.840 That's what the whole plan is. To make sid fishes, 1088 00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:42.559 make his day hard. 1089 00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:50.239 We'll say, wady health, ady morn, whoever is concerned. If 1090 00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:52.639 I was a man who would care who, then that 1091 00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:54.880 might say something, But I'm not. 1092 00:55:56.400 --> 00:56:01.000 Because it's simple. See I don't care because I am 1093 00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:05.920 sub vicious and I rule the world. Now just a second, 1094 00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:10.639 you buying Christopher, you're Joe Lawler. Do you want a 1095 00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:14.000 return match? Well, I'll say this, you can have it, 1096 00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:16.960 but I think your chances of getting that battle royal 1097 00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:19.079 then become simmed and none. 1098 00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:21.280 So you guys gotta remember something. 1099 00:56:21.880 --> 00:56:23.800 I've got a little saying and it goes like this, 1100 00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:27.599 do one to the man as the man would do 1101 00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:28.199 one to you. 1102 00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:32.920 First time I heard that. 1103 00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:35.599 You love it? 1104 00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:38.519 Had he said that in WWF il ready I don't 1105 00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:41.039 even remember them. I don't know if he said it. 1106 00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:44.320 He said that, I said justice, I don't remember. So 1107 00:56:44.440 --> 00:56:46.119 that's what he was sounding like. I mean, he's he's 1108 00:56:46.199 --> 00:56:50.639 he's coming to his own. The promos are now dialed in. Yeah, yeah, 1109 00:56:50.760 --> 00:56:52.880 for sure, and uh sure that makes me interested in 1110 00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:55.559 seeing the match for for sure. And uh he would 1111 00:56:55.599 --> 00:56:59.599 work Lawlor And you had to know something was up 1112 00:56:59.679 --> 00:57:02.559 because February sixth of nineteen ninety five, as we turned 1113 00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:04.960 the page to the year nineteen ninety five for Sid, 1114 00:57:05.440 --> 00:57:08.599 he loses the USWA Unified World Heavyweight title to Jerry 1115 00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:11.079 Lawler in the Mid South Colosseum on a Monday night, 1116 00:57:11.840 --> 00:57:15.719 no DQ and he is done with the USWA, which 1117 00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:18.760 means there must be a new contract on the table. 1118 00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:24.480 There must be newfound interest in the Psycho one. Let's 1119 00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:25.480 head back to Stamford. 1120 00:57:26.159 --> 00:57:28.960 Was like, well, what if we gave Sean a bodyguard 1121 00:57:29.159 --> 00:57:33.400 to make people believe that he has a chance against 1122 00:57:33.519 --> 00:57:39.880 this giant diesel. I brought Sid's name up just out 1123 00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:43.599 of I wasn't there, so I didn't go through all 1124 00:57:43.679 --> 00:57:46.960 the shit that they had all previously gone through. But 1125 00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:50.880 you could tell that Vince kind of had a soft 1126 00:57:50.920 --> 00:57:53.960 spot for Sid and thought, well, yeah, that could work. 1127 00:57:55.079 --> 00:57:58.239 We'll bring him back and we'll see how the reaction is. 1128 00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:00.440 We're not going to bring him back in the ring away. 1129 00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:04.800 We'll put him with Sean. Let's see how this dynamic works, 1130 00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:07.920 and we'll take it step by step. I don't know 1131 00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:11.960 that there were any big guarantees made to Sid. It 1132 00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:15.639 was like, you want to work, You're not going back 1133 00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:17.960 to work down South. I don't think they're going to 1134 00:58:18.039 --> 00:58:20.079 have you. And if you want to make money in 1135 00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:22.440 the wrestling business right now, the only place to do 1136 00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:25.800 it is here. So let's try this. Let's let's see 1137 00:58:25.840 --> 00:58:27.920 what happens and we'll take it on a day by 1138 00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:28.599 day basis. 1139 00:58:29.599 --> 00:58:36.119 That was the pitch. So okay, that was a pitch. Uh. 1140 00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:36.960 Did you. 1141 00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:41.360 Do you think that Diesel Sean was weak and that 1142 00:58:41.440 --> 00:58:45.559 Sid strengthened it the dynamic? No, tell me about it? 1143 00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:50.280 To me, I mean, Sid Sean to me, was the 1144 00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:55.239 obvious way to go. A Diesel Shan mean what I say, So, yeah, 1145 00:58:55.320 --> 00:58:58.199 Diesel Sean. Diesel Sean was the way to go. Uh, 1146 00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:00.480 just because of the way to been built up, you know, 1147 00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:02.960 the way it had done. Like I wasn't. I didn't 1148 00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:04.199 think it was weak. I didn't. 1149 00:59:04.440 --> 00:59:07.239 I didn't really see it like that because I never 1150 00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:15.400 saw I never saw matches as being like like are 1151 00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:16.400 they marquee enough? 1152 00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:17.599 Right? 1153 00:59:17.760 --> 00:59:20.039 Doesn't feel like event me. 1154 00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:22.760 It was like the two of them had history, the 1155 00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:25.880 two of them. I mean I was wrong. I was 1156 00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:29.679 excited that Sid came back, for sure, but at the 1157 00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:33.519 time I didn't need it. It wasn't like I said, oh, 1158 00:59:33.800 --> 00:59:36.920 what a crummy main event. You know, I didn't say 1159 00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:39.480 that at all. I was like, this is great, this 1160 00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:42.320 is what it should be. You know, the the two 1161 00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:45.559 the two best friends and now they're fighting for the championship. 1162 00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:50.679 You know, I mean I didn't. It was weird, you know, 1163 00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:52.679 I think about the Royal rumble that year. Yeah, and 1164 00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:55.960 I certainly didn't. That wasn't in my mind. You know, 1165 00:59:55.960 --> 00:59:58.199 I always wanted a babyface to win, but obviously it's 1166 00:59:58.360 --> 01:00:04.239 it's it's what they going for. But yeah, I never 1167 01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:06.599 saw a problem with it. I mean, also I saw 1168 01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:11.039 you know, this is when I went to the in 1169 01:00:11.199 --> 01:00:16.800 high gear for the one we've mentioned many I talked 1170 01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:19.360 about many times at Worcester Centrum that was delayed and 1171 01:00:19.440 --> 01:00:23.199 then you know, brought back and we went like the 1172 01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:26.840 next night, and nobody was there. It was a fucking 1173 01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:31.960 just a dead, a dead fucking building. But I remember 1174 01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:35.679 what was interesting about that was that people were cheering 1175 01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:38.800 for Shawn Michaels by that point, and this must have 1176 01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:43.440 been mid to late February, yep, I think, and people 1177 01:00:43.480 --> 01:00:45.119 were cheering for Sean Michael. I don't think Sid was 1178 01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:46.199 there yet, right, was it there? 1179 01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:48.880 He had come in, but I don't think it had 1180 01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:49.559 aired yet. 1181 01:00:50.039 --> 01:00:53.239 Okay, because I don't think he came down with Sean. 1182 01:00:53.400 --> 01:00:55.719 I would have known. I don't remember that. Yeah, I 1183 01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:57.960 think he came down by himself to face Adam Baum, 1184 01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:00.719 and he fucking white the floor with him, and he 1185 01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:05.559 was hugely over So, I you know, if you got 1186 01:01:05.639 --> 01:01:10.679 people in a in a weak ass Worcester centrum cheering 1187 01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:13.519 for Shawn Michaels, and not only that, but getting me 1188 01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:16.920 to cheer for Shawn Michaels when I was very much 1189 01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:20.199 in my like, you know, I don't cheer for bad guys. 1190 01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:22.360 You didn't feel uncomfortable cheering for him over Diesel. 1191 01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:23.719 No, I was actually kind of like, oh, this is 1192 01:01:23.800 --> 01:01:26.800 kind of cool. It's like, okay, I can go for 1193 01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:29.079 I can go with this. I can go with this, 1194 01:01:30.519 --> 01:01:33.639 you know, and and and and he and he and 1195 01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:36.159 he went over and he went over out of bombs. 1196 01:01:36.280 --> 01:02:01.920 A lap fan wrestling podcast wrest podcast with Jack and. 1197 01:02:04.519 --> 01:02:06.800 Sean definitely caught a wave at this point in time. 1198 01:02:06.960 --> 01:02:08.960 And I think it's Vince, just like we saw with Roman, 1199 01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:12.159 going into an absolute psychological tail spin about not being 1200 01:02:12.159 --> 01:02:14.159 able to control who the fans want to cheer as 1201 01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:17.559 a babyface that leads in part to the over correction 1202 01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:20.199 of bringing in Sin. I mean, I don't know. Ultimately, 1203 01:02:20.840 --> 01:02:23.119 as we'll talk about and as Shawn has talked about 1204 01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:27.679 the abrupt turning of sind On, Sean after WrestleMania eleven 1205 01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:31.199 was in no small part because Vince didn't want Sean 1206 01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:35.679 around taking the steam of you know, top baby face 1207 01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:38.559 reactions from Diesel. It was clear after WrestleMania eleven and 1208 01:02:38.599 --> 01:02:40.760 the way that match played out that the fans in 1209 01:02:40.880 --> 01:02:42.679 most of the cities that counted in terms of like 1210 01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:46.280 the pulse cities the cities were Vince, Well, that's the thing. 1211 01:02:46.360 --> 01:02:48.960 I know the pulse. I have the pulse. I create 1212 01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:51.320 the pulse, right and Diesels my pulse. 1213 01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:54.360 And look, on occasion the fans start to confuse that, 1214 01:02:54.679 --> 01:02:55.719 and I understand. 1215 01:02:55.960 --> 01:03:00.840 The fans confused. That's the problem. It's not that they 1216 01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:03.920 try to confuse what what's going on. They get confused 1217 01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:08.320 and they don't understand that who they're cheering for is wrong, 1218 01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:09.920 and they don't really want to be cheering for them. 1219 01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:13.880 They think that a Shawn Michaels excites them, but he doesn't. 1220 01:03:14.440 --> 01:03:18.000 What excites them is that Diesel is beating up Shawn Michaels. 1221 01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:22.440 That's what actually excites them. They just don't understand. They 1222 01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:23.159 get confused. 1223 01:03:23.559 --> 01:03:25.320 Absolutely, they do, yes, correct. 1224 01:03:26.280 --> 01:03:31.760 So that's simply here, nor there, nor everywhere. 1225 01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:33.119 And you can hear it in the body of the 1226 01:03:33.159 --> 01:03:35.960 match you wrestle many eleven the people decide in that 1227 01:03:36.119 --> 01:03:37.639 match that they actually want Sean to win. 1228 01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:41.719 No, they didn't. They didn't. 1229 01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:44.119 Well that's that's an effective argument. 1230 01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:48.079 It's just a fact. They did. They did not they they? 1231 01:03:48.199 --> 01:03:50.000 And why did you have to write Sean off television 1232 01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:51.679 for months? The night after the week after. 1233 01:03:51.559 --> 01:03:53.719 Because that because listen, I was building up his return. 1234 01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:56.480 You know, here we have a guy that just uh 1235 01:03:57.079 --> 01:04:00.119 that just you know, he just lost. But we're going 1236 01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:02.559 to turn him babyface. But we can't have him come 1237 01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:06.800 back in just yet because it's the sympathy thing. You're 1238 01:04:06.800 --> 01:04:11.920 going to simply the angle, the angle, the sympathetic oath angle, right. 1239 01:04:13.159 --> 01:04:15.960 The sympathetic oath anglely, Yeah, that old classic. Oh what 1240 01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:17.679 if you think Bruce is the only person to lay 1241 01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:19.880 claim to being the first to suggest bringing back Sid. 1242 01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:22.440 Of course he would be wrong and can't wait to 1243 01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:24.760 hear from a couple of other voices that lay claimed 1244 01:04:24.840 --> 01:04:27.559 the precise same thing. But his name is in the 1245 01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:31.559 sauce because Vince thinks it's something Sean needs and it 1246 01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:33.719 wouldn't surprise me if what he really means is if 1247 01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:36.679 Sid's standing next to Sean it'll make Sean more of 1248 01:04:36.719 --> 01:04:39.440 a heel as opposed to being this guy fighting from 1249 01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:42.440 underneath against an oversized champion, and Diesel very tough to 1250 01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:45.880 pull off to be to be bigger than the heel 1251 01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:48.840 challenger by the degree that Diesel was bigger than Sean 1252 01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:51.639 and not eventually get the people decide with the guy 1253 01:04:51.719 --> 01:04:54.360 who is fighting the odds from a size perspective, I 1254 01:04:54.440 --> 01:04:56.960 feel like, sure, sure, you know, Hogan struggled to do 1255 01:04:57.039 --> 01:04:59.199 that against Savage, although they had some really great matches. 1256 01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:02.360 If that kept going, people would have been like, all right, 1257 01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:04.199 Savage has got to win this thing. You know, I 1258 01:05:04.320 --> 01:05:05.440 want Savage to win. 1259 01:05:05.400 --> 01:05:09.280 Right, I mean, that's people want David to triumph Goliath. 1260 01:05:09.639 --> 01:05:11.320 That's just human nature. 1261 01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:13.559 Absolutely, and especially when you consider as how awesome you 1262 01:05:13.719 --> 01:05:16.599 have to be for New York to give you a 1263 01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:19.199 world title shot against a champion that's bigger than you are. 1264 01:05:19.599 --> 01:05:22.079 You know, that's not the size advantage. And that's another 1265 01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:23.400 part of the reason to bring in sid Is we'll 1266 01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:26.559 talk about in ninety five after the Shawn program. Ninety 1267 01:05:26.599 --> 01:05:28.480 five is going to be the year of Diesels World Champion. 1268 01:05:28.519 --> 01:05:30.000 It's going to be his year to be Hogan, like 1269 01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:33.239 we need challengers, and we need challengers in the Hogan 1270 01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:36.079 mold that stack up to our champion. From a physical perspective, 1271 01:05:36.119 --> 01:05:38.639 He's got a sleigh giants, and there weren't many on 1272 01:05:38.679 --> 01:05:42.599 the marketplace, especially post steroid trials, that were ready willing 1273 01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:44.800 and able quite like Sid, and so he checked that 1274 01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:47.320 box rather nicely as well. What ready willing and Mabel 1275 01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:51.119 William Mabel. Although, as Bruce will lay out in Future 1276 01:05:51.159 --> 01:05:54.239 Eclipse from his podcast Something to Wrestle, the original booking 1277 01:05:54.280 --> 01:05:56.320 plans for how to handle Sid, Diesel and Sewan in 1278 01:05:56.400 --> 01:05:58.239 ninety five kind of went up in Smoke Doe too, 1279 01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:01.360 in part the way Vince re acted to the finish 1280 01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:04.239 of the title match WrestleMania eleven. But still Diesel versus 1281 01:06:04.280 --> 01:06:06.800 Sid was always going to be circle to eventually. So 1282 01:06:07.400 --> 01:06:10.480 we've got interest up in Stanford. There is Yes, we're 1283 01:06:10.519 --> 01:06:12.719 talking about his name again, and we're pretending that he 1284 01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:14.880 didn't wrestle a year in the us w A as 1285 01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:16.760 a litmus test. We're pretending that just one day his 1286 01:06:16.880 --> 01:06:20.079 name came up, not that we sent fucking undertaker Enable 1287 01:06:20.159 --> 01:06:21.599 and Lex down there to work with him. 1288 01:06:22.039 --> 01:06:24.039 I've i simply said, hey, you know what we haven't 1289 01:06:24.039 --> 01:06:27.119 seen Sid in a while. Let's bring him up. Let's 1290 01:06:27.159 --> 01:06:27.719 see what he can do. 1291 01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:29.760 Right, I've heard from Sid. 1292 01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:35.199 I haven't seen Sydney since WrestleMania, you know, ninety two. 1293 01:06:35.280 --> 01:06:36.360 I mean as well, just. 1294 01:06:36.559 --> 01:06:39.400 If you don't count telling, if you don't count telling 1295 01:06:39.480 --> 01:06:41.280 Lawlor how to book the finish of the match against 1296 01:06:41.280 --> 01:06:42.719 Sid a month ago in the Midside College. 1297 01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:44.320 And I don't have nothing to do with Jerry Lawler 1298 01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:45.760 at all ever. 1299 01:06:48.519 --> 01:06:50.119 Yeah, that this, You're right, this is around that time 1300 01:06:50.159 --> 01:06:52.880 of that underage sex allegation against him, that the loss 1301 01:06:52.960 --> 01:06:53.199 of this. 1302 01:06:53.440 --> 01:06:55.440 Never been involved in sexual excapades. 1303 01:06:55.519 --> 01:06:58.320 This is definitely the time of this, of the time 1304 01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:00.679 period where you pretend not to know Mary Lawler. That's 1305 01:07:00.679 --> 01:07:01.239 a great point. 1306 01:07:01.559 --> 01:07:02.400 Who's Jerry Lawler? 1307 01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:02.880 Exactly? 1308 01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:05.599 I'm not aware of things. 1309 01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:09.559 That much is clear. And look, I mean for most 1310 01:07:09.760 --> 01:07:11.679 for half a ninety four, Vince is on trial, so 1311 01:07:11.800 --> 01:07:12.239 what the fuck? 1312 01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:12.440 Right? 1313 01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:16.360 He is no idea what's going to happen? So yes, 1314 01:07:16.559 --> 01:07:18.800 here's Jim Cornett, who has mentioned, due to the Smoking 1315 01:07:18.800 --> 01:07:21.480 Mountain Alliance, is now not only a full time television 1316 01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:25.639 manager for WWF and a television commentator, but also part 1317 01:07:25.679 --> 01:07:27.679 of the office staff, part of the creative staff as well. 1318 01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:31.159 So he's offering first hand insight in terms of being 1319 01:07:31.199 --> 01:07:34.920 at the table, not just you know, observing from the outside, 1320 01:07:34.920 --> 01:07:37.159 which he also is really good at doing as a 1321 01:07:37.159 --> 01:07:39.079 student of the game. But here he is talking from 1322 01:07:39.079 --> 01:07:43.320 the inside out about Vince's psychology visa via Sid in 1323 01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:46.079 ninety five and how that may have contributed to his return. 1324 01:07:46.760 --> 01:07:48.239 Vince didn't care about the stabbing. 1325 01:07:49.480 --> 01:07:54.079 No, well, we don't know what happened over that's another company, 1326 01:07:54.480 --> 01:08:00.480 you know, because how about what the fuck? All I 1327 01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:02.800 know is Arn Anderson didn't instigate it. 1328 01:08:04.159 --> 01:08:05.199 He didn't instigate it. 1329 01:08:05.280 --> 01:08:07.320 In the bar, he told Sid to shut the fuck 1330 01:08:07.440 --> 01:08:09.760 up after Arne had had a few cocktails, and he's 1331 01:08:09.800 --> 01:08:12.880 done that to a lot of people and made him 1332 01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:15.199 look like an idiot, because Arn verbally can do that. 1333 01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:17.920 But Arne was in his room when Sid went knocking 1334 01:08:17.960 --> 01:08:19.640 on the door to continue it, and Sid went with 1335 01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:22.760 the fucking chair leg so that to me puts him 1336 01:08:22.800 --> 01:08:26.079 in the wrong. They were Arn scissors, but Arn grabbed 1337 01:08:26.159 --> 01:08:28.840 him as a defensive mechanism and got stabbed. Said first, 1338 01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:30.760 for Sid took him away because he had had the 1339 01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:33.479 drop on Arn. When Arn opened the door, and he 1340 01:08:33.560 --> 01:08:37.600 came around from the side with chair leg So fuck Sid. 1341 01:08:38.279 --> 01:08:40.720 Be quite honest, I'm sure it was roid rage because 1342 01:08:40.760 --> 01:08:43.720 he's been I can't imagine he's still alive with the 1343 01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:45.840 amount of chemicals he's pumped in his body. He should 1344 01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:49.239 have blown up long before now. I've never been able 1345 01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:51.119 to say anthing bad about him personally otherwise, and he 1346 01:08:51.199 --> 01:08:53.199 was a rotten wrestler. But fuck him for doing that 1347 01:08:53.319 --> 01:08:55.720 to arn just because Arne told him in front of 1348 01:08:55.800 --> 01:08:57.880 the boys what all the boys thought of him, because 1349 01:08:57.920 --> 01:09:01.079 he was running his mouth about how great he wasn't. 1350 01:09:01.359 --> 01:09:04.439 Obviously that from an episode of Cornett's podcast prior to 1351 01:09:04.520 --> 01:09:05.119 Sid's passing. 1352 01:09:05.359 --> 01:09:07.039 I mean, I'm not aware, you know, listen, this is 1353 01:09:07.039 --> 01:09:07.640 all hearsay. 1354 01:09:08.640 --> 01:09:10.760 I love that little snippet. Oh it's another company powe. 1355 01:09:11.199 --> 01:09:12.199 I mean right, we don't know. 1356 01:09:12.239 --> 01:09:14.239 I was Evin. Can I just can I just ask 1357 01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:19.079 before we hire Sid again? You you understand what presaged 1358 01:09:19.159 --> 01:09:22.119 his departure from WCW. You understand that he stabbed Arn't 1359 01:09:22.119 --> 01:09:23.079 Anderson early to death. 1360 01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:25.279 I don't. I don't. I'm not aware. I'm not privileged 1361 01:09:25.319 --> 01:09:31.119 to what happened. We are not listen, I wasn't there 1362 01:09:31.239 --> 01:09:32.800 you weren't there. It's a different organization. 1363 01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:33.640 You know. 1364 01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:36.520 They have their own business, their own their own rules 1365 01:09:36.520 --> 01:09:38.960 about things. All I know is that is that there 1366 01:09:39.119 --> 01:09:42.880 was a report of an incident. I don't know who 1367 01:09:43.039 --> 01:09:46.279 was involved. I don't know what was involved. You know, 1368 01:09:46.399 --> 01:09:50.479 there's hearsay that Sid may have you know, gone after 1369 01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:53.920 arn Anderson. I don't know, and I've made no effort. 1370 01:09:54.039 --> 01:09:56.439 I've made no effort to find out before hiring him again. 1371 01:09:57.039 --> 01:10:00.560 Whether you know I'm I'm definitely somebody who has I 1372 01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:02.359 have enough issues on my own business. 1373 01:10:02.479 --> 01:10:04.720 Well then to understand your business. I understand you're busy, 1374 01:10:04.800 --> 01:10:07.039 but you know, as someone who kind of is responsible 1375 01:10:07.079 --> 01:10:10.199 for due diligence on new hires, here, can I can 1376 01:10:10.279 --> 01:10:11.119 I look into it for you? 1377 01:10:11.239 --> 01:10:14.319 And hold on, hold on. I want to just just 1378 01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:17.720 say something right here. I am not responsible for what 1379 01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:21.880 other people do outside of my company. I am not 1380 01:10:22.079 --> 01:10:26.560 responsible for what people do in another company that is 1381 01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:30.199 not my business. Are you holding me accountable for what 1382 01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:30.760 Sid did? 1383 01:10:31.640 --> 01:10:31.680 No? 1384 01:10:31.840 --> 01:10:33.720 No, I think in WW no, But I think if 1385 01:10:33.720 --> 01:10:36.439 you hire him saying that I stabbed an R Anderson, 1386 01:10:39.159 --> 01:10:42.920 are you I'm not saying that I happened to be 1387 01:10:43.079 --> 01:10:45.960 there at the same hotel, sir, But I am suggesting 1388 01:10:46.840 --> 01:10:51.760 that if we hire him, Sar Anderson. Fifteen times, are 1389 01:10:51.800 --> 01:10:52.640 you saying that I did that. 1390 01:10:53.359 --> 01:10:56.199 I am suggesting that if we hire him, we may 1391 01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:57.800 share in a little bit of the culpability of what 1392 01:10:57.880 --> 01:11:01.199 may happen next. Yes, I am if he comes here 1393 01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:03.920 and I was not there. But if he comes here 1394 01:11:03.960 --> 01:11:05.520 and pulls something similar, you can't. 1395 01:11:05.560 --> 01:11:08.760 Actually, I do not tell Sid to kill arn Anderson. 1396 01:11:09.640 --> 01:11:13.560 You did not. I did not. 1397 01:11:14.319 --> 01:11:17.840 Why would you say that as if anybody was waiting 1398 01:11:17.920 --> 01:11:19.640 for you to stipulate an answer, Because I want to. 1399 01:11:19.680 --> 01:11:23.600 Let you know that I am not accountable for other 1400 01:11:23.680 --> 01:11:29.159 men's actions. I did not conspire with Sid to attack 1401 01:11:29.279 --> 01:11:34.560 ar Anderson. I did not say Sid, take the scissors 1402 01:11:36.359 --> 01:11:37.720 and stab that son of a bitch. 1403 01:11:42.159 --> 01:11:42.960 You did not say that. 1404 01:11:43.600 --> 01:11:46.960 I did not. I did not say that, And I 1405 01:11:47.039 --> 01:11:48.840 can tell you right now I was not in England. 1406 01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:50.760 I have an alibi for that. 1407 01:11:55.039 --> 01:11:57.000 Well, that was a weird thing to add there. Okay, 1408 01:11:58.199 --> 01:12:00.399 not not being in England is an off, even though 1409 01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:03.600 I don't think anybody would even accuse you of having 1410 01:12:03.680 --> 01:12:06.079 been a letting you know that these are the facts, Okay, 1411 01:12:06.680 --> 01:12:07.039 very good. 1412 01:12:07.119 --> 01:12:08.239 I want to. I want to. I don't want to 1413 01:12:08.239 --> 01:12:11.640 get any I don't want to be confused, all right, 1414 01:12:11.680 --> 01:12:12.720 I don't want it there to be any. 1415 01:12:12.760 --> 01:12:14.600 You know, I remember you were, you were, you were 1416 01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:17.840 you were missing an action, and then you said it 1417 01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:19.680 was because you knew the indictment was coming down the 1418 01:12:19.800 --> 01:12:21.680 next month. But you were missing an action that last 1419 01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:22.319 month of October. 1420 01:12:22.319 --> 01:12:23.119 I don't remember you not. 1421 01:12:23.359 --> 01:12:23.640 I was not. 1422 01:12:23.720 --> 01:12:27.640 I was certainly the office and in other areas of 1423 01:12:27.720 --> 01:12:29.960 the company. Well, yeah, you taught, Yeah, you told England 1424 01:12:30.920 --> 01:12:34.079 you were not in England. No, I was not. I 1425 01:12:34.199 --> 01:12:36.560 definitely Listen. You want to check my travel records, you can. 1426 01:12:37.520 --> 01:12:39.760 You know there there is no evidence that I purchased 1427 01:12:39.760 --> 01:12:42.720 a ticket to England in that time period. 1428 01:12:44.640 --> 01:12:46.760 Well, no evidence of you purchasing a ticket is not 1429 01:12:46.840 --> 01:12:48.600 the same as you not being in England. I just 1430 01:12:48.680 --> 01:12:49.239 want to be clear. 1431 01:12:49.720 --> 01:12:51.279 Well, I didn't buy a ticket to go to England, 1432 01:12:51.279 --> 01:12:54.359 so how can I be there? Did I swim? Is 1433 01:12:54.359 --> 01:12:57.399 that where you're suggesting that I swam to England? I 1434 01:12:57.560 --> 01:13:01.000 was not there. I couldn't from England because I wasn't 1435 01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:01.560 in England. 1436 01:13:02.479 --> 01:13:04.600 How do you feel about arn Anderson in general? 1437 01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:07.520 I think arn Anderson is a very uh is a 1438 01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:11.840 is a proficient entertainer who has at a very lengthy 1439 01:13:12.680 --> 01:13:15.479 career in this in the in this business. Who has 1440 01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:19.079 you know, who has had the privilege of of gracing 1441 01:13:19.279 --> 01:13:23.159 the squared circles of both other venues and the w 1442 01:13:23.279 --> 01:13:26.560 W E. And you know I, I simply have no 1443 01:13:26.680 --> 01:13:27.720 opinion of him whatsoever. 1444 01:13:29.079 --> 01:13:32.840 Arn Anderson, once dubbed by w W hansho a proficient entertainer, 1445 01:13:33.279 --> 01:13:49.560 died Wednesday. I am not responsible for sid stabbing someone 1446 01:13:49.640 --> 01:13:53.439 in another company, Okay, And you're going to hire him again? 1447 01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:58.119 And if he does something like that here, what are 1448 01:13:58.159 --> 01:13:59.359 we supposed to tell ourselves? 1449 01:13:59.520 --> 01:14:02.399 Well, depends on where he does it. Where he does 1450 01:14:02.479 --> 01:14:04.119 it on premises of the of w W. 1451 01:14:04.960 --> 01:14:07.199 Oh yeah, let's say his own home. Does he stab 1452 01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:09.399 I'm not suggesting, you know what I'm saying. If he 1453 01:14:09.479 --> 01:14:10.920 does it on the road for us, like he did 1454 01:14:10.960 --> 01:14:11.960 it on the road for them. 1455 01:14:12.119 --> 01:14:14.720 Again, it depends where does he do it. What what's 1456 01:14:14.800 --> 01:14:17.279 the constitution of him stabbing it? 1457 01:14:17.279 --> 01:14:19.159 And if he stabs one of our wrestlers in a 1458 01:14:19.199 --> 01:14:20.159 hotel room fight. 1459 01:14:21.319 --> 01:14:21.920 That depends. 1460 01:14:22.399 --> 01:14:23.159 How does it depend? 1461 01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:26.439 It depends on on was it a personal matter? Was 1462 01:14:26.479 --> 01:14:29.159 it a professional manner where you know, I I have 1463 01:14:29.279 --> 01:14:29.680 a very. 1464 01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:32.319 Guess it depends whether he's penciled in for the next pause. 1465 01:14:32.359 --> 01:14:33.880 You have a very specific jurisdiction. 1466 01:14:33.960 --> 01:14:35.840 Yeah, I think I'm going to resign over I think 1467 01:14:35.840 --> 01:14:38.479 I'm going to resign. I mean this is you can't resign. 1468 01:14:38.920 --> 01:14:39.479 Excuse me. 1469 01:14:39.800 --> 01:14:43.479 You're in a contract. And if you if you see, 1470 01:14:43.680 --> 01:14:45.560 if you look at your contract, which I'm I guess 1471 01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:46.479 you did not even. 1472 01:14:46.279 --> 01:14:49.960 Though you're legal what even though you're in the legal department, I. 1473 01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:52.840 Mean, given see you know, and it's kind of a 1474 01:14:52.920 --> 01:14:55.560 pathetic thing. You are in the legal department, and you 1475 01:14:55.600 --> 01:14:58.560 didn't look at over your own contract because it specifically 1476 01:14:58.600 --> 01:15:00.800 says and I know it's is it because I added 1477 01:15:00.840 --> 01:15:06.000 it myself. You cannot resign unless I give you permission 1478 01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:07.159 to and I don't. 1479 01:15:07.640 --> 01:15:09.359 But now that I know that's on your mind, pal, 1480 01:15:09.439 --> 01:15:10.720 I have just the assignment for you. 1481 01:15:12.760 --> 01:15:17.399 Why don't you? I want so because you're now aware 1482 01:15:17.479 --> 01:15:20.600 of this, of this clause in the contract, and you're 1483 01:15:20.600 --> 01:15:22.840 aware of your lack of intelligence. What I would like 1484 01:15:22.920 --> 01:15:26.000 you to do is I want you to travel with 1485 01:15:26.119 --> 01:15:30.720 Sid to a a kitchen supply store and have him, 1486 01:15:31.439 --> 01:15:36.600 uh you know, have him pick out knives to what end, Vince, 1487 01:15:37.279 --> 01:15:41.079 to the end, Well, the sharp end going inside your physique. 1488 01:15:42.239 --> 01:15:49.119 That's you would say it. Pal, look at me, I 1489 01:15:49.279 --> 01:15:52.239 want you to buy the knives Sid will stab you 1490 01:15:52.319 --> 01:15:52.680 with Pal. 1491 01:15:53.960 --> 01:15:55.680 You're gonna pay them. You're gonna pay for them with 1492 01:15:55.720 --> 01:15:58.000 your own money. You will not get refunded. This is 1493 01:15:58.079 --> 01:16:03.039 not a petty cash situation. But what is petty is me. 1494 01:16:04.800 --> 01:16:10.560 I'm petty and I have no problem encouraging, insisting, and 1495 01:16:10.840 --> 01:16:14.760 ordering Sid to stab the shit out of you. 1496 01:16:15.039 --> 01:16:18.359 There it is, Well, there's that's what the FBI has 1497 01:16:18.359 --> 01:16:19.880 been waiting for in the van out back. 1498 01:16:20.560 --> 01:16:21.199 Time to move in. 1499 01:16:21.319 --> 01:16:23.079 Boys, we've got our evidence. 1500 01:16:24.960 --> 01:16:25.199 All that. 1501 01:16:25.319 --> 01:16:27.760 Vince McMahon would say, I've got no problem paying for 1502 01:16:27.840 --> 01:16:30.600 the knives that Sid will use to stab the shit 1503 01:16:30.640 --> 01:16:32.199 out of you. No wonder they thought they could get 1504 01:16:32.239 --> 01:16:36.840 him on conspiracy exactly, No telling what he said on 1505 01:16:36.880 --> 01:16:41.720 a wire that ended up being inadmissible, tremendous, tremendous stuff. 1506 01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:43.800 So yeah, all that adds up to Sid coming back. 1507 01:16:43.840 --> 01:16:46.439 If you ask me, and the question that Brian last 1508 01:16:46.479 --> 01:16:48.920 asked there on a Cornett's podcast, did Vince care about 1509 01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:49.439 the stabbing? 1510 01:16:49.680 --> 01:16:49.720 No? 1511 01:16:50.439 --> 01:16:53.359 No, I think we knew the answer before we even 1512 01:16:53.399 --> 01:16:56.920 asked the question, and uh, it shall be done. 1513 01:16:57.039 --> 01:16:58.119 All right, Who's it gonna be. 1514 01:17:00.359 --> 01:17:00.640 Like this? 1515 01:17:02.279 --> 01:17:07.439 And you mayn't be given the natural, god given ability 1516 01:17:08.199 --> 01:17:13.359 that the Heartbreak Kid has got and not be the 1517 01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:20.880 envy of every superstar in the World Wrestling Federation. I mean, 1518 01:17:22.680 --> 01:17:26.520 I can beat any superstar in the World Wrestling Federation 1519 01:17:26.960 --> 01:17:32.600 one on one, but even the Heartbreak Kid can't beat 1520 01:17:32.760 --> 01:17:37.880 everybody in the World Wrestling Federation. I mean, yeah, exactly, 1521 01:17:37.920 --> 01:17:40.960 I mean not all the same time, anyway. And it 1522 01:17:41.119 --> 01:17:45.600 is for that reason that I have found it necessary 1523 01:17:46.960 --> 01:17:51.000 to have a man to watch my back. 1524 01:17:52.079 --> 01:17:56.439 The suspense continues to do is exactly what I have done. 1525 01:17:56.479 --> 01:17:59.920 I have talked about it for weeks and tonight, folks, 1526 01:18:00.359 --> 01:18:01.359 it's the night. 1527 01:18:02.239 --> 01:18:09.239 Ladies and gentlemen, the new bodyguard of the Heartbreak Kid. 1528 01:18:10.119 --> 01:18:14.479 I'm big, how bad? All this is sick? 1529 01:18:16.279 --> 01:18:16.319 What? 1530 01:18:16.680 --> 01:18:17.479 Oh yeah. 1531 01:18:19.199 --> 01:18:19.520 Said? 1532 01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:25.920 Whoa un believable It is him. 1533 01:18:26.359 --> 01:18:27.279 I can't believe it. 1534 01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:29.680 I can't believe why. 1535 01:18:29.680 --> 01:18:31.920 Don't know anythink he talks to anybody anything if I 1536 01:18:32.039 --> 01:18:32.640 come to him. 1537 01:18:32.760 --> 01:18:35.359 This guy is a side cone, he's a nice he's 1538 01:18:35.399 --> 01:18:36.079 a logan chick. 1539 01:18:36.640 --> 01:18:43.760 Nobody wants it around. Take a look at this. 1540 01:18:44.079 --> 01:18:46.920 Monster, get him. Tell me it was gonna be here. 1541 01:18:46.960 --> 01:18:50.039 I don't even want to be at ringside? What it show? 1542 01:18:50.199 --> 01:18:52.960 Michaelst Gan, he's cracked up. 1543 01:18:53.039 --> 01:18:53.600 I think. 1544 01:18:58.960 --> 01:19:03.079 Keep this and seeing is believing. 1545 01:19:04.439 --> 01:19:09.239 The eyes of every superstar and the World Wrestling Federation 1546 01:19:09.920 --> 01:19:12.079 are popping out of their skulls. 1547 01:19:12.840 --> 01:19:15.680 Tell him, big man, say at that. 1548 01:19:16.439 --> 01:19:17.880 They the people. 1549 01:19:17.600 --> 01:19:23.760 Around the world or asking the question Sean Michaels, why 1550 01:19:25.079 --> 01:19:29.920 why take the chance on another bodyguard with lees? Oh 1551 01:19:30.840 --> 01:19:37.840 turned his back on you when times got tough, Say 1552 01:19:38.880 --> 01:19:40.000 I'll tell you why? 1553 01:19:41.079 --> 01:19:42.239 Then he could trust me. 1554 01:19:43.079 --> 01:19:46.760 We sit down, we had a talk and then the 1555 01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:50.520 man relaxed like that that. 1556 01:19:50.760 --> 01:19:55.880 One that sid you are a man that has no feelings, 1557 01:19:56.399 --> 01:20:06.239 no remorse for any ve So the second of all, 1558 01:20:07.479 --> 01:20:13.640 the most important, that I will be by his side 1559 01:20:14.960 --> 01:20:15.800 at all times. 1560 01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:21.600 Yes, in all times when the times are good, oh yeah, 1561 01:20:21.800 --> 01:20:23.600 and when the times are bad. 1562 01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:29.760 But my brothers to him is simple. There will be 1563 01:20:30.560 --> 01:20:34.880 no bad times. And how can I sit here and 1564 01:20:35.079 --> 01:20:40.960 I say this? We're a simple together the heartbreak in 1565 01:20:41.439 --> 01:20:43.880 and myself we will. 1566 01:20:43.840 --> 01:20:51.199 Rule the world. He's the why look at this? 1567 01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:56.520 Because I am the man the cold ship. 1568 01:20:57.760 --> 01:21:03.399 Oh yeah, you heard it. We'll be back, ladies, and gentlemen. 1569 01:21:06.399 --> 01:21:07.079 We'll be back. 1570 01:21:08.119 --> 01:21:18.039 Ladies. Were you watching? I didn't wait a minute. I 1571 01:21:18.079 --> 01:21:18.520 don't remember. 1572 01:21:18.520 --> 01:21:21.720 I feel like I was told. Yeah, me too, I 1573 01:21:21.800 --> 01:21:22.840 feel like I was told. 1574 01:21:23.199 --> 01:21:25.960 But I did. Also, you know, this was during the 1575 01:21:26.039 --> 01:21:26.560 time I was. 1576 01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:30.279 Uh, I was. 1577 01:21:31.880 --> 01:21:34.640 Taping it every week. I couldn't stay up that late, right, 1578 01:21:36.079 --> 01:21:40.279 you know I was. I couldn't stay up. Yeah, I 1579 01:21:40.399 --> 01:21:42.920 usually went to better Around nine is when my parents 1580 01:21:42.960 --> 01:21:43.720 would send me to bed. 1581 01:21:44.079 --> 01:21:46.199 And this is a time. You know, the ratings tell 1582 01:21:46.239 --> 01:21:48.239 the story. The attendant tells the story that a lot 1583 01:21:48.279 --> 01:21:50.159 of fans who dialed in in the late eighties and 1584 01:21:50.199 --> 01:21:53.319 early nineties like we did, lost a lot of interest. Yeah, 1585 01:21:53.520 --> 01:21:55.199 we we kind of aged out for a little while. 1586 01:21:56.079 --> 01:21:57.279 I mean I didn't. 1587 01:21:57.680 --> 01:21:59.960 No, I'm not saying you did, but I'm saying you weren't, 1588 01:22:00.359 --> 01:22:03.560 and you know, not following every single live minute. 1589 01:22:03.840 --> 01:22:06.239 Well I did. The thing is I did. I definitely 1590 01:22:06.359 --> 01:22:09.560 taped every single week because I know that I was 1591 01:22:09.640 --> 01:22:11.600 watching all the time. I mean, by this point I 1592 01:22:11.680 --> 01:22:14.760 knew that Rob was the only show to watch. I 1593 01:22:14.920 --> 01:22:18.359 wasn't watching weekend television anymore, so I was. I mean, 1594 01:22:20.039 --> 01:22:22.920 I was watching more than ever at this point. Nice, 1595 01:22:23.439 --> 01:22:25.960 it's it's it's weird. But I was definitely watching more than. 1596 01:22:25.880 --> 01:22:27.680 Ever because a lot weren't. I mean, the ratings were 1597 01:22:27.720 --> 01:22:28.359 just pathetic. 1598 01:22:28.840 --> 01:22:29.680 Yeah, no, no, I was. 1599 01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:30.159 I was. 1600 01:22:31.039 --> 01:22:34.079 I was one who was watching all the goddamn time and. 1601 01:22:34.119 --> 01:22:34.640 The house shows. 1602 01:22:34.720 --> 01:22:34.880 You know. 1603 01:22:35.319 --> 01:22:37.760 Of course the blizzard was a factor, but in nineteen 1604 01:22:37.800 --> 01:22:40.279 ninety five Live Attendants was a complete joke. The pay 1605 01:22:40.319 --> 01:22:42.760 per views, especially the introduction in Your House a complete joke. 1606 01:22:43.239 --> 01:22:45.319 And Sid's there for all of it. As we've talked about, 1607 01:22:45.319 --> 01:22:47.520 that's part of the overlying thesis of you don't bring 1608 01:22:47.600 --> 01:22:49.239 in SID to pop business. You bring in Sid. 1609 01:22:49.319 --> 01:22:51.880 This business is so bad you need to Yep, you're 1610 01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:55.239 desperate for something exactly. You're reaching hilarious that I guess 1611 01:22:55.239 --> 01:22:56.159 you're desperate for Sid. 1612 01:22:56.399 --> 01:22:59.279 There he is coming back despite all that's happened. And 1613 01:22:59.399 --> 01:23:01.720 it's interesting couple of things. They have the music right away, 1614 01:23:02.159 --> 01:23:05.000 the Psycho music. I think that's the first time we've 1615 01:23:05.039 --> 01:23:06.880 ever heard that song on WWF television. 1616 01:23:07.279 --> 01:23:10.600 For sure. That was not that was That was an original. 1617 01:23:10.920 --> 01:23:15.399 A Jim Johnston song. Yep, yep, that's the February twentieth, 1618 01:23:15.520 --> 01:23:19.199 nineteen ninety five edition of Raw. So that's just what 1619 01:23:19.399 --> 01:23:22.479 three weeks after he loses the USWA title to Jerry 1620 01:23:22.560 --> 01:23:25.680 Lawler in Memphis. Wow, and we've got him penciled in here. 1621 01:23:26.119 --> 01:23:27.640 And so he walks to the ring of that music 1622 01:23:27.680 --> 01:23:29.560 and the fact that that you know, you hear Cornett 1623 01:23:29.600 --> 01:23:32.239 say psycho on commentary, but he's not called psycho Sid 1624 01:23:32.680 --> 01:23:36.079 yet they say Sid. They say he's vicious, he's this, 1625 01:23:36.199 --> 01:23:40.760 and that he's psycho. But I think the fact that 1626 01:23:40.840 --> 01:23:44.359 they chose that music says all you need to know 1627 01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:47.920 about how front and center. The fact he stabbed arn 1628 01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:50.479 Anderson was in their mind. Yes, indeed, when they were 1629 01:23:50.520 --> 01:23:53.039 thinking about the new presentation. So I don't blame Sid 1630 01:23:53.079 --> 01:23:56.319 at all for coming to that conclusion. It struck me, 1631 01:23:56.479 --> 01:23:58.520 as we go through the life and times of Sid, 1632 01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:01.159 that this might be a time to quickly pause on Psycho. 1633 01:24:01.399 --> 01:24:03.760 I mean, it's not something we've taken under the cinnemat yet. 1634 01:24:04.439 --> 01:24:07.560 I'm sure whatever the time comes, if you consider it eligible, 1635 01:24:07.640 --> 01:24:09.239 it's going to be a huge mountain to climb. 1636 01:24:09.680 --> 01:24:12.119 Oh, it's it certainly is. It's it's a it's a 1637 01:24:13.039 --> 01:24:14.960 it's a it's a game changer in so many ways. 1638 01:24:15.119 --> 01:24:17.119 We are sitting here in scary movie season, and if 1639 01:24:17.159 --> 01:24:19.359 nothing else, it may serve as an appetizer for a 1640 01:24:19.399 --> 01:24:22.319 future scary movie season. If this, if this helps it qualify, 1641 01:24:22.399 --> 01:24:23.359 I mean I guess it does. 1642 01:24:24.159 --> 01:24:25.720 I guess it does. I mean yeah, I mean if 1643 01:24:25.720 --> 01:24:28.640 they're if they really, I mean yeah. The music, for sure, 1644 01:24:28.680 --> 01:24:30.279 I didn't even know it's funny. I've always wanted to 1645 01:24:30.319 --> 01:24:32.039 figure out a way to get Psycho under Then it's 1646 01:24:32.119 --> 01:24:33.560 right there in front of my face the whole. 1647 01:24:33.399 --> 01:24:36.560 Time, because when what scene? What scene is it? 1648 01:24:36.600 --> 01:24:38.800 For those that don't know, Oh, it's the shower scene, 1649 01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:41.760 the shower scene. It's any it's really it's not just 1650 01:24:41.800 --> 01:24:45.720 a shower scene. It's any killing scene that happens in 1651 01:24:45.800 --> 01:24:51.119 the movie. And uh uh you know, whenever, whenever the 1652 01:24:51.239 --> 01:24:56.800 knife comes out, it's uh, you know, the music, the 1653 01:24:57.439 --> 01:25:02.439 violin starts shriekinging, hang Hanks, it's Bernard Herman at his 1654 01:25:02.520 --> 01:25:03.640 absolute fucking mess. 1655 01:25:03.680 --> 01:25:04.720 Who was Bernard Herman? 1656 01:25:04.840 --> 01:25:08.000 Quickly, who wasn't her barn Herman was one of the 1657 01:25:08.079 --> 01:25:13.199 greatest fucking film composers of all time, all time greats. 1658 01:25:14.640 --> 01:25:22.199 He composed so many Hitchcock movies. He did Vertigo obviously, 1659 01:25:22.199 --> 01:25:29.960 he did Psycho, he did north By Northwest, just some 1660 01:25:30.079 --> 01:25:35.119 of the most incredible, uh you know, soundtracks and scores 1661 01:25:35.199 --> 01:25:39.600 for films. He just he was brilliant, absolutely brilliant. 1662 01:25:40.840 --> 01:25:42.840 So that's that's his creation. 1663 01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:46.000 That sound yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, that's a Bernard 1664 01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:46.960 Herman piece right there. 1665 01:25:47.479 --> 01:25:48.920 So they throw it right in there at the top 1666 01:25:48.960 --> 01:25:51.039 of his entrance music. And this is the new presentation 1667 01:25:51.199 --> 01:25:51.840 right out of the gate. 1668 01:25:51.880 --> 01:25:52.239 You heard it. 1669 01:25:52.399 --> 01:25:54.479 It's not like they figured it out after he powered 1670 01:25:54.520 --> 01:25:57.279 momb Sean five times he he was coming out to 1671 01:25:57.319 --> 01:25:59.319 because I've heard Bruce say that that he doesn't remember it, 1672 01:25:59.319 --> 01:26:01.399 and I think we'll a clip that says that he 1673 01:26:01.479 --> 01:26:03.720 doesn't remember him being framed a psycho SID until after 1674 01:26:03.760 --> 01:26:05.359 he turns on Sean, and of course that made him 1675 01:26:05.399 --> 01:26:07.880 that much crazier. He kind of was portrayed as having snapped, 1676 01:26:08.560 --> 01:26:10.520 but the music was ready to go before he ever 1677 01:26:10.600 --> 01:26:12.359 turned on Sean. And that's all you need to know. 1678 01:26:13.279 --> 01:26:17.279 As for alternative people who say they had everything to 1679 01:26:17.359 --> 01:26:20.960 do with SID coming back, Kevin Nash is on the list. 1680 01:26:21.960 --> 01:26:23.359 You want to think about Kevin Nash going back to 1681 01:26:23.520 --> 01:26:26.000 WCW days when they shared cars together. As Kevin was 1682 01:26:26.039 --> 01:26:29.239 breaking down as Oz and Sid was really hitting stride 1683 01:26:29.239 --> 01:26:32.840 as a headliner and an early stage horseman, an early 1684 01:26:32.920 --> 01:26:34.359 stage relative to his career. 1685 01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:38.760 Oh yeah, fucking you know, yeah, Sid, you know, he's 1686 01:26:38.760 --> 01:26:44.399 a fucking great guy. You know, go way back, workout barbers. 1687 01:26:44.439 --> 01:26:47.039 I've never seen someone work out harder than Sid. You're 1688 01:26:47.079 --> 01:26:47.800 not going to work. 1689 01:26:48.319 --> 01:26:52.960 I'll tell you why. You know, guy try so hard 1690 01:26:53.640 --> 01:26:59.600 with so little. And that's fucking said. Yeah, he's just 1691 01:26:59.720 --> 01:27:02.520 gonna go out there. He's gonna say, you know, I 1692 01:27:02.680 --> 01:27:08.119 am gonna fucking bench press eight hundred pounds and you're 1693 01:27:08.119 --> 01:27:09.960 not gonna tell me shit about it, you know. 1694 01:27:10.399 --> 01:27:12.399 And I know people go on and on about you know, 1695 01:27:13.439 --> 01:27:16.199 he's greedy left and people holding the bag. And you 1696 01:27:16.279 --> 01:27:18.079 know what I say that, I said, look, how many 1697 01:27:18.319 --> 01:27:22.479 cans of Vienna sausages have you put together for your church? 1698 01:27:23.000 --> 01:27:23.199 You know? 1699 01:27:23.439 --> 01:27:29.239 The thing about Sid is, you know, people don't consider 1700 01:27:29.319 --> 01:27:33.039 the fact that you know, he's he's you know, everyone 1701 01:27:33.159 --> 01:27:36.439 talks about him holding up people for money. You know, 1702 01:27:36.640 --> 01:27:39.279 he's he's uh, you know, he's trying to fucking grab 1703 01:27:39.359 --> 01:27:41.960 every dime he can out of a out of a 1704 01:27:42.039 --> 01:27:46.439 fucking uh, you know company. But you know, it's a 1705 01:27:46.520 --> 01:27:50.119 fucking dog eat dog business, you know, and you know, 1706 01:27:50.199 --> 01:27:54.199 what what do is sid do with that fucking money? 1707 01:27:54.239 --> 01:27:57.399 He buys a bunch of fucking Vienna hot dogs, some 1708 01:27:57.600 --> 01:27:58.479 Vienna sausages. 1709 01:27:58.520 --> 01:27:58.680 You know. 1710 01:27:58.880 --> 01:28:02.159 It says, fucking I'm a dog and we need a dog. 1711 01:28:03.920 --> 01:28:06.119 Give me my old fucking canned Vienna dog. 1712 01:28:07.119 --> 01:28:10.079 He sent my church a case of Vienna sausages, and 1713 01:28:10.199 --> 01:28:11.840 I sent him an autograph picture. 1714 01:28:13.039 --> 01:28:15.359 Yeah, I won't lie. I fucking one time I sent him, 1715 01:28:15.560 --> 01:28:19.359 you know, I said, uh, you know, hey, yeah, I said, 1716 01:28:19.359 --> 01:28:20.079 what do you need, bro? 1717 01:28:20.479 --> 01:28:20.640 You know? 1718 01:28:21.520 --> 01:28:24.920 He said, you know, I kind of donate some fucking uh, 1719 01:28:25.720 --> 01:28:29.920 you know, some fucking Viennas to my uh, to my church. 1720 01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:32.800 I said, yeah, dude, I'll take it. I'll bring it 1721 01:28:32.880 --> 01:28:34.439 to you, you know. And I sent him down about 1722 01:28:35.399 --> 01:28:38.760 a couple of cases worth, and he yeah. About maybe 1723 01:28:39.199 --> 01:28:41.039 two weeks later, I'm on the road and he sends 1724 01:28:41.079 --> 01:28:45.039 me a fucking uh autograph picture, says, hey, keV, this 1725 01:28:45.239 --> 01:28:49.560 is for you, Bud. I said, all right, guess I'll 1726 01:28:49.600 --> 01:28:52.319 put this next to my fucking uh, you know, my 1727 01:28:52.479 --> 01:28:55.399 original monet, my fucking wall and Kevin. 1728 01:28:55.399 --> 01:28:58.399 You would have been really impressed by the off Broadway 1729 01:28:58.439 --> 01:29:02.640 show said was invited to star in uh Shakespearean influence. 1730 01:29:02.680 --> 01:29:03.399 You know what it was called? 1731 01:29:04.399 --> 01:29:04.760 What was that? 1732 01:29:05.520 --> 01:29:06.640 The Merchant of Viennas. 1733 01:29:09.720 --> 01:29:12.800 He sent my church at Casey, Vienna sausages and I 1734 01:29:12.920 --> 01:29:18.359 sent him an autograph picture. He sent my church at 1735 01:29:18.399 --> 01:29:22.359 Casey Na sausages, and I sent him an autograph picture. 1736 01:29:23.680 --> 01:29:29.560 He sent my church all right, sorryages, and I sent 1737 01:29:29.680 --> 01:29:30.880 him an autograph picture. 1738 01:29:31.359 --> 01:29:35.439 There's Kevin Nash on this podcast talking about who really 1739 01:29:35.680 --> 01:29:38.319 suggested bringing in Sid in ninety five to the w W. 1740 01:29:38.920 --> 01:29:46.640 We had good? I begged, we had really good. I 1741 01:29:47.119 --> 01:29:51.000 begged Sean Beggs if we begged to get him back, 1742 01:29:51.119 --> 01:29:52.319 you know, to get him back in? 1743 01:29:53.239 --> 01:29:57.479 And what what were you met with? He put it 1744 01:29:57.600 --> 01:29:57.960 on us. 1745 01:30:00.600 --> 01:30:03.760 He said, you fucking get you know, I don't think 1746 01:30:03.800 --> 01:30:08.520 you guys need it, but if you think so, then 1747 01:30:08.960 --> 01:30:12.039 you know, Sean, then bring you know, bring him in. 1748 01:30:12.119 --> 01:30:12.680 We'll bring him in. 1749 01:30:15.119 --> 01:30:16.039 H So. 1750 01:30:22.319 --> 01:30:24.880 He also was another fucking Shakespeare you know, he did 1751 01:30:25.199 --> 01:30:30.199 two Gentlemen of Vienna's. Yeah. I said, fuck it, you know, 1752 01:30:30.279 --> 01:30:32.920 I said, hey, you know he's he's got a fucking 1753 01:30:33.199 --> 01:30:35.520 he's ready. You know, you get on stage right now, 1754 01:30:35.960 --> 01:30:43.960 take care of business fucking fuck it. It's on you. 1755 01:30:44.920 --> 01:30:48.720 Hey, we're bringing Sid. Oh h hope, Ellen's on you. 1756 01:30:49.039 --> 01:30:50.119 You're responsible for him. 1757 01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:57.399 Okay, I mean all right, you know ship, Well, we'll 1758 01:30:57.479 --> 01:30:58.279 take care of Sid. 1759 01:30:58.640 --> 01:31:01.079 See what happens, and then they do the meeting. We 1760 01:31:01.119 --> 01:31:03.960 always talk about where they have the fake meeting after 1761 01:31:04.159 --> 01:31:06.640 to convince Bruce that he had to roll the decision. Right, 1762 01:31:06.800 --> 01:31:08.560 Oh my god, you know the dye is already carried. 1763 01:31:09.319 --> 01:31:13.359 All right, listen, everybody, we're gonna tell you what we got. 1764 01:31:13.560 --> 01:31:14.960 We got said, we'll take care of it. 1765 01:31:15.239 --> 01:31:17.760 Good job, Kevin, keV Dots sit in. Kevin thinks he's 1766 01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:18.359 gonna work with him. 1767 01:31:18.840 --> 01:31:20.960 I need everybody, all right, I need everybody to come 1768 01:31:21.039 --> 01:31:22.840 in and just stay here, all right. I need to 1769 01:31:23.000 --> 01:31:25.359 tell you what. I need everyone to leave, all right, 1770 01:31:25.960 --> 01:31:29.640 come back in about fifteen minutes, because that's when that's 1771 01:31:29.640 --> 01:31:32.399 when Bruce will be here. And what we're gonna do 1772 01:31:32.520 --> 01:31:35.680 is we're just gonna we're gonna we're gonna just shut 1773 01:31:35.760 --> 01:31:36.840 up and let him come up with the idea. 1774 01:31:36.920 --> 01:31:39.199 Just have a brainstorming session. Yeah, we'll have a brainstorming 1775 01:31:39.239 --> 01:31:41.720 session about what Sean needs to feel like more of 1776 01:31:41.760 --> 01:31:42.600 a threat to Deesel. 1777 01:31:42.680 --> 01:31:45.840 What's going to get him over in a battle against Diesel? 1778 01:31:45.880 --> 01:31:48.880 And everyone come up with ideas and if he if 1779 01:31:48.920 --> 01:31:52.399 he doesn't chime in right away with something, uh, someone 1780 01:31:52.560 --> 01:31:53.880 just say hey, you know what if we got him 1781 01:31:53.880 --> 01:31:56.640 a new bodyguard and then let him go from there 1782 01:31:56.640 --> 01:32:00.920 because he's I just listen. I know I do this 1783 01:32:01.000 --> 01:32:02.680 a lot. I know that it's a pain in the ass, 1784 01:32:02.800 --> 01:32:05.239 and I appreciate you doing this for me. I'm going 1785 01:32:05.279 --> 01:32:07.800 to tell you right now it makes everybody's life a 1786 01:32:07.880 --> 01:32:08.600 hell of a lot easier. 1787 01:32:08.640 --> 01:32:10.000 Well, then, just quickly, I mean, what have you done 1788 01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:12.239 before this meeting to assure that if someone brings up 1789 01:32:12.239 --> 01:32:13.840 bodyguard that he will say Sid? 1790 01:32:14.960 --> 01:32:20.439 Well, So what I did was I actually I sat 1791 01:32:20.560 --> 01:32:25.560 down and I told him what I know. I told 1792 01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:28.439 him about my first hand account of watching Sid stop 1793 01:32:28.520 --> 01:32:29.600 stab er ar Anderson. 1794 01:32:29.680 --> 01:32:32.000 Excuse me, first hand account? 1795 01:32:32.640 --> 01:32:33.920 I what did I know? 1796 01:32:34.119 --> 01:32:34.159 No? 1797 01:32:34.239 --> 01:32:37.800 No, no, no, no, you said first hand account right. 1798 01:32:38.159 --> 01:32:41.880 I'm talking about. The story was fast enough I could 1799 01:32:41.880 --> 01:32:42.680 counted on one hand. 1800 01:32:54.399 --> 01:32:56.920 Oh my god, you know you're one of the great 1801 01:32:57.000 --> 01:32:58.119 cat burglars in the world. 1802 01:32:58.279 --> 01:32:58.520 Marv. 1803 01:33:02.239 --> 01:33:18.079 He's the Lapsed Fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that 1804 01:33:18.239 --> 01:33:19.920 knows the boys need their candy. 1805 01:33:20.640 --> 01:33:37.399 It's the lapsed fan. He's the lapsed Fan. 1806 01:33:37.479 --> 01:33:41.720 Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carneso and Jpi Soro. 1807 01:33:42.239 --> 01:33:44.600 This guy now wonder. He thinks people stepping in shit 1808 01:33:44.720 --> 01:33:46.640 is so funny. He does it four times a day. 1809 01:33:52.479 --> 01:33:54.279 Oh my god, that was good. That's a great callback. 1810 01:33:55.159 --> 01:33:58.079 He sent my church a case of Vienna sausages, and 1811 01:33:58.199 --> 01:34:00.159 I sent him an autograph picture. 1812 01:34:00.319 --> 01:34:04.239 For playing callbacks. So Sean takes to his book and 1813 01:34:04.520 --> 01:34:05.079 talks about this. 1814 01:34:06.680 --> 01:34:14.239 Picture. Oh what a deal. Okay, I guess that wordth 1815 01:34:14.279 --> 01:34:17.279 one hundred thie fucking tartans of Vienna. 1816 01:34:17.039 --> 01:34:20.119 Sausages in jeff Town, hounding his grandma to send Vienna's 1817 01:34:20.159 --> 01:34:23.159 to the church so he can get so he can 1818 01:34:23.199 --> 01:34:26.680 get an autograph date bite ten in the mail. Oh god, 1819 01:34:27.199 --> 01:34:28.920 so I hear Sean and his book talking about this 1820 01:34:29.680 --> 01:34:32.600 fascinating time period that leads the return of Sid. Despite 1821 01:34:32.640 --> 01:34:34.239 our good show with the Rumble, Vince had two big 1822 01:34:34.279 --> 01:34:36.680 warriors going in to WrestleMania eleven. The first with was 1823 01:34:36.720 --> 01:34:38.920 whether our fans would buy the possibility of me beating 1824 01:34:38.960 --> 01:34:40.800 a guy as big as Kevin, and the second was 1825 01:34:40.800 --> 01:34:43.479 the overall health of the company. To alleviate his first worry, 1826 01:34:43.560 --> 01:34:45.720 he decided to bring in psycho Sid as my bodyguard. 1827 01:34:45.800 --> 01:34:46.199 So there it is. 1828 01:34:46.319 --> 01:34:49.119 That's not that's not Kevin suggesting it, that's not Bruce 1829 01:34:49.119 --> 01:34:52.520 suggesting it. That's Vince coming up with it. Sid was 1830 01:34:52.640 --> 01:34:54.520 very big, six ' eight over n three hundred pounds 1831 01:34:54.680 --> 01:34:56.840 and very intimidating. You get a different character than Kevin. 1832 01:34:56.960 --> 01:34:59.000 He wasn't funny and loose and always wore a scowl 1833 01:34:59.039 --> 01:35:00.800 when the cameras were on, and Sid looked like a 1834 01:35:00.840 --> 01:35:02.520 real tough guy. You knew Kevin was tough, but that 1835 01:35:02.560 --> 01:35:04.319 wasn't the first thing you noticed about him. He would 1836 01:35:04.359 --> 01:35:05.760 sort of lully you in a sense of comfort and 1837 01:35:05.800 --> 01:35:07.520 then beat you up. This was more than just a 1838 01:35:07.560 --> 01:35:10.239 subtle little difference between the two, and Sid's edge gave 1839 01:35:10.279 --> 01:35:12.640 me the equalizer that Vince was looking for. With Sid 1840 01:35:12.720 --> 01:35:15.079 by my side, Kevin's title was in real jeopardy. Sid, 1841 01:35:15.159 --> 01:35:17.600 for his part, was very into playing my bodyguard. See. 1842 01:35:17.640 --> 01:35:20.640 I never saw Sid as someone that was going to 1843 01:35:20.720 --> 01:35:22.920 cheat to help Sean win the belt, or someone that 1844 01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:25.199 was even going to necessarily attack Kevin. I just thought 1845 01:35:25.199 --> 01:35:27.239 of him as someone that would like bou Shan's confidence 1846 01:35:27.279 --> 01:35:31.159 almost like right, Like Sean knows he can beat Diesel, 1847 01:35:31.239 --> 01:35:33.039 but if he has Sid by his side, then everybody 1848 01:35:33.039 --> 01:35:35.560 else knows they can't fuck with Sean. 1849 01:35:35.439 --> 01:35:38.239 Like right, right, right? I mean that's the thing, Like 1850 01:35:38.359 --> 01:35:39.880 I don't think he's going to help him cheat, but 1851 01:35:39.960 --> 01:35:42.359 like if someone comes to mess with Sean, he's gonna 1852 01:35:42.399 --> 01:35:43.159 kick their ass. 1853 01:35:43.039 --> 01:35:46.560 Right exactly because he needs to keep himself out of 1854 01:35:46.840 --> 01:35:49.640 the fires. He knows he's going to start so that 1855 01:35:49.680 --> 01:35:51.159 he can be at his best against Diesel for the 1856 01:35:51.199 --> 01:35:53.399 title of WrestleMania. I never thought of Sid as some 1857 01:35:53.439 --> 01:35:55.000 of those going to attack and it Nash and he 1858 01:35:55.079 --> 01:35:58.199 doesn't really, that's the thing. He doesn't really go after him, right, 1859 01:35:58.239 --> 01:35:59.760 So like he powered moms him three times on the 1860 01:35:59.840 --> 01:36:03.079 Rock before WrestleMania, you know, or anything like that. The 1861 01:36:03.159 --> 01:36:05.760 next day, Sean writes, we had a television taping in Poughkeepsie. 1862 01:36:05.800 --> 01:36:07.399 When I arrived at the building, Vince told me he 1863 01:36:07.479 --> 01:36:09.880 wanted to talk Sean. We were going to switch you, babyface. 1864 01:36:10.239 --> 01:36:12.520 What it's because of the kickout, isn't it? 1865 01:36:12.560 --> 01:36:12.600 No? 1866 01:36:12.640 --> 01:36:13.399 I skipped ahead a bit. 1867 01:36:13.880 --> 01:36:16.520 Well I didn't. I didn't. Are you upset with that? 1868 01:36:16.560 --> 01:36:18.960 I didn't mean to upset you what kind of you 1869 01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:20.439 don't have to know, you don't have to if you 1870 01:36:20.479 --> 01:36:22.039 don't want to, don't be babyfaced. 1871 01:36:22.319 --> 01:36:25.479 Whatever you need oh, I mean ar Wrestling Federation. I 1872 01:36:25.560 --> 01:36:26.920 kind of want to do whatever you think is best 1873 01:36:27.039 --> 01:36:28.359 Jack for the World Wrestling Federation. 1874 01:36:28.560 --> 01:36:30.600 What can I do? What can I do? Please? 1875 01:36:30.600 --> 01:36:33.039 I have news for you. What you gotta do? Whatever 1876 01:36:33.079 --> 01:36:37.279 you want by the heart break yead and we'll Wrestling Federation. 1877 01:36:38.359 --> 01:36:39.920 What can I do for the heart break? Good? 1878 01:36:44.720 --> 01:36:45.520 You can say it like that. 1879 01:36:45.760 --> 01:36:46.000 You can. 1880 01:36:50.279 --> 01:36:55.720 Please tell me I need you Well, I'll tell you what, Vince. 1881 01:36:55.760 --> 01:36:57.319 Here's what I can do. I can get you an 1882 01:36:57.319 --> 01:37:00.159 autograph picture of Sid if you do the following. 1883 01:37:00.199 --> 01:37:03.439 Shid my church at Casey Beanna Sausages And I sent 1884 01:37:03.560 --> 01:37:04.760 him an autograph picture. 1885 01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:08.159 Done. I need an autogo picture of Sid. 1886 01:37:11.600 --> 01:37:13.920 He needs it because that's what Sean offered when he 1887 01:37:13.960 --> 01:37:16.079 asked him what can I do? How funny is that? 1888 01:37:17.279 --> 01:37:19.319 And he pretends he needs a picture of Sid. 1889 01:37:20.159 --> 01:37:30.359 Whatever I need I need from Sean Sean? Hold on ready, whatever. 1890 01:37:30.079 --> 01:37:33.079 I need I need from Sean Sean? 1891 01:37:34.079 --> 01:37:43.479 Yeah, John John John Sean. 1892 01:37:43.479 --> 01:37:45.039 Did you hang up? Did we lose did we lose 1893 01:37:45.119 --> 01:37:45.600 the connection? 1894 01:37:47.199 --> 01:37:47.239 No? 1895 01:37:47.439 --> 01:37:48.279 He and I are connected. 1896 01:37:48.760 --> 01:37:50.079 We will never lose the connection. 1897 01:37:50.600 --> 01:37:56.319 The Souls Souls of Connectivity, the. 1898 01:37:56.359 --> 01:37:59.239 Tag team of Shawn Michaels and Vince McMahon, collectively known 1899 01:38:00.279 --> 01:38:04.000 as Souls of Connectivity Connectivity. 1900 01:38:04.159 --> 01:38:04.720 You can see it. 1901 01:38:06.359 --> 01:38:09.920 Whip up the shirt, Souls of Connectivity, I mean the 1902 01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:15.520 beating heart, Vince's furrowed brow, every rights itself. We're gonna 1903 01:38:15.520 --> 01:38:17.359 switch your baby face. It's because of the kickout, isn't 1904 01:38:17.399 --> 01:38:18.960 it now? I skipped ahead in the book and the 1905 01:38:19.000 --> 01:38:20.640 book he talks about how in the body of the 1906 01:38:20.640 --> 01:38:23.720 WrestleMania eleven match with Kevin Nash, there's a spot they 1907 01:38:23.840 --> 01:38:29.479 call where Sean kicks out of no Diesel kicks out 1908 01:38:29.520 --> 01:38:33.439 of the belloted beat the two drops supplex and everybody 1909 01:38:33.600 --> 01:38:35.359 thought that that was going to be Sean winning the 1910 01:38:35.399 --> 01:38:38.479 belt and by doing yeah something like that, there's a 1911 01:38:38.520 --> 01:38:41.960 spot in the match. There's a spot on the match 1912 01:38:42.359 --> 01:38:45.920 where Diesel kicks out, and like they should have known 1913 01:38:46.039 --> 01:38:48.239 that what that would do was piss the crowd off 1914 01:38:48.399 --> 01:38:51.399 that Sean didn't win the belt. Instead of thinking they 1915 01:38:51.439 --> 01:38:54.039 would think Diesel was a superhero for kicking out, because 1916 01:38:54.039 --> 01:38:55.760 if they were reading the crowd right, they would know 1917 01:38:55.840 --> 01:38:59.199 that there wouldn't be the desired effect if they called 1918 01:38:59.239 --> 01:39:02.520 that spot, but they did it anyway, further compounding this 1919 01:39:02.640 --> 01:39:05.199 feeling from the crowd that, oh my god, like, now 1920 01:39:05.359 --> 01:39:07.800 you know, we want him to win the belt, and 1921 01:39:07.880 --> 01:39:09.760 you're gonna tease us with him winning the belt and 1922 01:39:09.880 --> 01:39:12.199 expect us to then turn around and be excited when 1923 01:39:12.239 --> 01:39:15.520 Diesel ultimately wins. It's one thing is not Diesel just 1924 01:39:15.560 --> 01:39:16.119 runs him over. 1925 01:39:16.319 --> 01:39:21.640 You know, how can you not be excited? I'm excited? 1926 01:39:22.079 --> 01:39:29.399 How much merch diesel Mania? Hello, obviously, huh. 1927 01:39:29.439 --> 01:39:31.279 He goes, So you're not excited. I'm excited. He goes 1928 01:39:31.600 --> 01:39:35.439 diesel Mania. Like, do I have to say it? Do 1929 01:39:35.600 --> 01:39:37.119 I really have to say it out loud? 1930 01:39:39.159 --> 01:39:41.800 I mean, can't what this is? What I don't understand. 1931 01:39:41.960 --> 01:39:48.319 This is excitement personified diesel maniacs. Oh. 1932 01:39:48.359 --> 01:39:49.920 I can see him in every corner of the world. 1933 01:39:50.600 --> 01:39:54.159 I mean, I'm winning right now in my pants. 1934 01:39:54.520 --> 01:39:59.560 I'm winning right now. All these kids with the black 1935 01:39:59.640 --> 01:40:04.800 leather love on. You know, we're talking hip, We're talking 1936 01:40:04.920 --> 01:40:07.960 merch pal We're talking licensing, adjacencies. 1937 01:40:07.840 --> 01:40:12.199 Merch hip, merch right right, that's what we do. We hip. 1938 01:40:13.560 --> 01:40:15.199 Would the fanny pack be hip? Merch. 1939 01:40:15.680 --> 01:40:17.159 I think it would be. I think we can also 1940 01:40:17.560 --> 01:40:19.439 hide merch in the fannie pack. 1941 01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:24.039 Remember the fanny pack that looked like the WWF title. 1942 01:40:24.760 --> 01:40:30.319 Oh it's a fucking lame. I can't believe fanny packs 1943 01:40:30.319 --> 01:40:32.720 are back right now. It nauseates me. 1944 01:40:32.840 --> 01:40:34.479 Well, they're back because it didn't used to be better. 1945 01:40:34.880 --> 01:40:35.079 I know. 1946 01:40:36.359 --> 01:40:38.640 They just the kids keep proving that we didn't live 1947 01:40:38.680 --> 01:40:41.319 in any kind of golden age by trying desperately to 1948 01:40:41.439 --> 01:40:44.239 dress up like we did. I mean, I guess bell 1949 01:40:44.279 --> 01:40:47.600 bottoms came back for twenty four hours when we were kids, 1950 01:40:47.640 --> 01:40:49.840 but for the most part were kids desperately trying to 1951 01:40:49.920 --> 01:40:50.880 dress like the seventies. 1952 01:40:51.199 --> 01:40:51.760 No, the. 1953 01:40:53.720 --> 01:40:57.600 Right, the opposite, Yeah, very interesting, But I mean the 1954 01:40:57.640 --> 01:41:02.000 bell bottoms. I mean actually that Yeah, that was like yeah, 1955 01:41:02.000 --> 01:41:04.479 and that was like two years and. 1956 01:41:04.520 --> 01:41:06.479 It was jeans in the shape of bell bottoms. It 1957 01:41:06.560 --> 01:41:12.600 wasn't slacks, right right, Okay? And he says, you know 1958 01:41:12.680 --> 01:41:14.760 that that kickout was a bad call on my part. 1959 01:41:14.800 --> 01:41:15.279 I admit it. 1960 01:41:15.560 --> 01:41:17.159 Why is it affecting me? I'm the only heel that 1961 01:41:17.239 --> 01:41:19.359 you have. They like you, the people like you. Sean 1962 01:41:19.520 --> 01:41:21.439 Vince said, yeah, you saw that right in the high 1963 01:41:21.479 --> 01:41:21.880 gear tour. 1964 01:41:22.279 --> 01:41:23.279 I did, I did. 1965 01:41:23.520 --> 01:41:25.520 They like me, but they like to hate me. Now 1966 01:41:25.600 --> 01:41:27.119 is not the time you make the mistake and it 1967 01:41:27.199 --> 01:41:30.239 costs me in my career. I was not happy. We're 1968 01:41:30.279 --> 01:41:32.960 going to have Sid drop you injure you tonight and 1969 01:41:33.079 --> 01:41:36.439 you'll go home for six weeks. And so it was 1970 01:41:36.560 --> 01:41:41.359 boss the April third, nineteen ninety five edition of Monday 1971 01:41:41.439 --> 01:41:47.159 Night Raw, the following takes place, Big. 1972 01:41:47.119 --> 01:41:50.640 Daddy, I'll return the favorite, all right, But what about uh? 1973 01:41:51.039 --> 01:41:52.000 What about Sid? 1974 01:41:52.079 --> 01:41:53.279 The comments made by Diesel. 1975 01:41:53.399 --> 01:41:57.199 Look, Look, as far as Sid is concerned, I can 1976 01:41:57.319 --> 01:42:00.520 live my life just fine without a bodyguard. 1977 01:42:00.680 --> 01:42:01.000 Thank you. 1978 01:42:02.680 --> 01:42:05.920 I got here because of the heartbreak. 1979 01:42:06.159 --> 01:42:06.359 Kid. 1980 01:42:07.920 --> 01:42:13.039 Quite honestly, I don't need a bodyguard, and I certainly 1981 01:42:13.600 --> 01:42:18.439 don't need a bodyguard to cause the referee to turn. 1982 01:42:18.399 --> 01:42:20.800 His ankle and cost me the. 1983 01:42:20.920 --> 01:42:28.000 World Wrestling Federation Championship soon. As far as the rematch 1984 01:42:28.119 --> 01:42:32.600 is concerned, Big Sid, I'm gonna do your favorite, big 1985 01:42:32.680 --> 01:42:37.840 man in this rematch. I'm giving you the night off. 1986 01:42:38.560 --> 01:42:41.880 Let they tell you something. He's stupid, little kid. 1987 01:42:43.279 --> 01:42:47.279 As we stand here, there's days I've gone by. 1988 01:42:47.960 --> 01:42:51.960 I get the feeling you wouldn't believe these days that 1989 01:42:52.079 --> 01:42:53.039 you're saying. 1990 01:42:53.239 --> 01:42:55.079 Wait a minute, we're gonna have to take a break. 1991 01:42:55.520 --> 01:42:57.159 I know, I just cruel off. 1992 01:42:57.279 --> 01:42:58.079 I'm on the place. 1993 01:42:58.359 --> 01:43:01.079 No, you wouldn't believe these days. Never gonna tell you 1994 01:43:01.319 --> 01:43:08.159 something boring. You don't give me, then I have. 1995 01:43:11.039 --> 01:43:13.600 Donkid me nothing but respect. 1996 01:43:15.560 --> 01:43:20.880 Probably got to thank a right, just thinking, did they 1997 01:43:20.920 --> 01:43:23.279 really go for a break? Totally? 1998 01:43:23.399 --> 01:43:27.000 God, turn it right, you won't. 1999 01:43:29.439 --> 01:43:30.399 I can't believe it. 2000 01:43:30.640 --> 01:43:34.279 I know this guy was gonna flip further lighter his life. 2001 01:43:34.359 --> 01:43:34.680 Shuden. 2002 01:43:34.720 --> 01:43:37.920 I goes out, what's going on ahead, huh son snuff. 2003 01:43:39.600 --> 01:43:42.119 They go off the air. They're alive, and they totally 2004 01:43:42.199 --> 01:43:44.640 miss timed o. People will forget that that the first 2005 01:43:44.680 --> 01:43:47.119 airing of this. Uh, they go to break and when 2006 01:43:47.119 --> 01:43:49.920 they come back, he's already power bombed. We don't see 2007 01:43:49.960 --> 01:43:51.680 the power bomb until the next week on Raw when 2008 01:43:51.720 --> 01:43:52.239 they replay it. 2009 01:43:52.680 --> 01:43:54.399 Holy shit, I don't remember that at all. 2010 01:43:54.720 --> 01:43:57.720 And and here's what it sounded like the next week 2011 01:43:57.760 --> 01:43:59.279 when they were able to play the whole thing. 2012 01:44:01.159 --> 01:44:01.479 All right. 2013 01:44:01.520 --> 01:44:03.720 Now, here's what you didn't see, ladies and gentlemen. Now 2014 01:44:03.880 --> 01:44:06.399 Sean was hurting and he had had enough of said 2015 01:44:06.760 --> 01:44:08.840 look look at him, get right in the sid's face. 2016 01:44:08.960 --> 01:44:11.399 Look at Sid, backing up from Seawn Michael's walk. 2017 01:44:12.159 --> 01:44:13.039 I've been beat up. 2018 01:44:13.239 --> 01:44:16.439 Why bigger and better people than you, but nobody has 2019 01:44:16.520 --> 01:44:19.680 been on to keep me down. You want some listening ball, 2020 01:44:20.039 --> 01:44:25.079 you can't have it out of the help, I'm sure king, 2021 01:44:25.199 --> 01:44:26.439 I don't nature craft. 2022 01:44:26.520 --> 01:44:30.159 Okay, Okay, now comes the act of cowardice. Watch this 2023 01:44:30.279 --> 01:44:32.239 sit next Here that Shawn's backing turned to blood. 2024 01:44:33.279 --> 01:44:39.640 From behind, this big, bad, tough monster, said, attacking Sean 2025 01:44:39.720 --> 01:44:41.119 Michaels from behind. 2026 01:44:41.159 --> 01:44:43.039 Michaels, who had added question in. 2027 01:44:43.079 --> 01:44:46.800 The toughest match of his career the night before against Big. 2028 01:44:46.760 --> 01:44:47.880 Danny Cool Diesels. 2029 01:44:48.439 --> 01:44:51.880 And look the powerful he went up so high he 2030 01:44:51.960 --> 01:44:54.279 went all the way over, landing on him, hipping his shoulder. 2031 01:44:54.520 --> 01:44:57.680 That wasn't enough, No, no, Sid was out to teach 2032 01:44:57.720 --> 01:44:58.439 Sean Michaels a. 2033 01:44:58.479 --> 01:45:00.880 Lesson, a lesson that Michael would never forget. 2034 01:45:01.199 --> 01:45:01.399 Sid. 2035 01:45:01.920 --> 01:45:08.600 But yet, powerbomb after power bomb after powerbomb, Sid continued 2036 01:45:09.159 --> 01:45:13.199 to relish in attempting to destroy the man who brought 2037 01:45:13.319 --> 01:45:15.279 him back to the World Rustling Federation. 2038 01:45:15.760 --> 01:45:17.319 This was gratitude for you. 2039 01:45:17.960 --> 01:45:22.520 Unquestionably, Sid living up to his moniker known as Psycho Sid. 2040 01:45:22.960 --> 01:45:26.920 SID was completely out of control and yet another powerbomb. 2041 01:45:27.079 --> 01:45:28.760 Yeah, had to wonder just how. 2042 01:45:28.800 --> 01:45:32.840 Many power bombs pro lunch damage would Sid have done 2043 01:45:33.319 --> 01:45:34.880 to Sean Michael's back. 2044 01:45:35.319 --> 01:45:38.159 It was obvious that was the area that Sid wanted 2045 01:45:38.199 --> 01:45:38.720 to attack. 2046 01:45:38.960 --> 01:45:41.720 Michaels had made reference to it earlier in the interview 2047 01:45:42.039 --> 01:45:44.760 and look at Sid with an insult of his boot. 2048 01:45:44.840 --> 01:45:48.319 Now on the backup Sean Michaels be rating him verbally 2049 01:45:49.840 --> 01:45:54.439 and till, ladies and gentlemen, but ww champion Diezel Hurrah 2050 01:45:54.560 --> 01:45:56.880 going this sin and all of a sudden, thing bad 2051 01:45:56.960 --> 01:46:00.560 Sid turned into a coward looking h room and Diesel 2052 01:46:00.960 --> 01:46:05.239 asking for help to come in and meanwhile keeping his 2053 01:46:05.399 --> 01:46:06.560 distance from the ring. 2054 01:46:07.520 --> 01:46:09.239 This psycho, the Sid. 2055 01:46:11.159 --> 01:46:15.199 And the look of concern on Diesel's face told the 2056 01:46:15.479 --> 01:46:18.640 entire story. Yes it didn't Ben Shawn Michaels of every 2057 01:46:18.760 --> 01:46:22.359 night before he had faced Diesel for the WWF title, 2058 01:46:22.840 --> 01:46:23.880 went all that aside. 2059 01:46:25.039 --> 01:46:25.840 It came down to. 2060 01:46:27.319 --> 01:46:34.479 Diesel keeping this godless lunatic, this loose cannon away from 2061 01:46:34.560 --> 01:46:39.359 doing yet more damage to Seawn Michaels. And then we 2062 01:46:39.439 --> 01:46:42.199 see Michaels finally placed on the structure. 2063 01:46:43.640 --> 01:46:44.439 In this case, the. 2064 01:46:44.520 --> 01:46:48.720 Friendship between Diesel and Shawn Michaels meaning a great deal 2065 01:46:48.800 --> 01:46:54.479 more than the WWF championship. Michael's had the wonder of 2066 01:46:54.560 --> 01:47:01.960 this juncture, whether or not his career was over. Diesel 2067 01:47:02.039 --> 01:47:05.000 had to wonder whether or not his path whatever cross 2068 01:47:05.720 --> 01:47:07.079 that of psycho shit. 2069 01:47:08.600 --> 01:47:10.760 Sounds like the seeds are planted for his first program. 2070 01:47:11.680 --> 01:47:13.199 Just a couple couple of seeds there. 2071 01:47:13.439 --> 01:47:15.319 So if you're worried that Diesel's not over is the 2072 01:47:15.399 --> 01:47:17.760 face and that Shawn's eclipsing him as the face, what 2073 01:47:17.840 --> 01:47:21.760 do you do? You have Diesel save Sean from a beatdown. 2074 01:47:22.159 --> 01:47:24.880 Well, there we go exactly and now they are, they're friends, 2075 01:47:24.960 --> 01:47:26.680 and they're better than before. 2076 01:47:26.880 --> 01:47:29.159 So anybody inclined to cheer Sean over Diesel, we'll have 2077 01:47:29.239 --> 01:47:31.039 to cheer Diesel because he saved their man. 2078 01:47:33.279 --> 01:47:37.079 You see, I fixed it, Yes he did. I fixed everything. Indeed, 2079 01:47:37.079 --> 01:47:37.800 he did him the hero. 2080 01:47:38.800 --> 01:47:43.479 So chure me you don't recall that hiccup where on 2081 01:47:43.640 --> 01:47:44.880 night one they had to go to a break in 2082 01:47:44.920 --> 01:47:45.399 the middle of it. 2083 01:47:45.920 --> 01:47:48.680 I can tell you I do know that I missed 2084 01:47:49.159 --> 01:47:49.840 that show. 2085 01:47:50.159 --> 01:47:53.840 I do remember. I do remember the sudden rush of 2086 01:47:54.079 --> 01:47:56.479 Sean's out in like the mystery and feeling like they 2087 01:47:56.520 --> 01:47:59.359 played it that way on purpose. But I really don't 2088 01:47:59.359 --> 01:48:01.159 think they did that way. But they were in a rush. 2089 01:48:01.239 --> 01:48:03.159 It looked like to me because you can hear like 2090 01:48:03.239 --> 01:48:04.800 Vince is telling him we need to go to a break. 2091 01:48:04.840 --> 01:48:07.680 You can hear Cornett saying it over the airwaves, bracing 2092 01:48:07.760 --> 01:48:09.479 the audience for it. It didn't seem like it was 2093 01:48:09.520 --> 01:48:15.600 something a welcome in position, and so you can't even 2094 01:48:15.640 --> 01:48:17.600 hear in that an original clip Whereean introduced Sid on 2095 01:48:17.640 --> 01:48:20.399 the comeback, where Vince is like, oh, the suspense is building, 2096 01:48:20.520 --> 01:48:23.039 almost like, come on, Pally, make the fucking announcement. 2097 01:48:23.119 --> 01:48:23.319 You know. 2098 01:48:25.199 --> 01:48:27.520 It's taking a while. Sid one of the money quotes 2099 01:48:27.560 --> 01:48:30.279 there in that interview before he attacked Sean, you don't 2100 01:48:30.720 --> 01:48:36.279 give me the night off, so sit trust me, Sid 2101 01:48:36.359 --> 01:48:38.600 will take the night off, but you will not give 2102 01:48:38.640 --> 01:48:39.039 it to him. 2103 01:48:39.159 --> 01:48:42.039 You will give me the night off. I take the 2104 01:48:42.199 --> 01:48:46.840 night off. I give you the night off, ik for 2105 01:48:46.920 --> 01:48:47.560 you the night. 2106 01:48:49.119 --> 01:48:51.039 I give you the night off of being my boss 2107 01:48:51.079 --> 01:48:54.239 because I'm not going to be here to fuck you right. 2108 01:48:55.479 --> 01:48:57.520 Eat my god, what. 2109 01:48:59.159 --> 01:48:59.760 Excuse me? 2110 01:49:01.359 --> 01:49:02.079 People say that. 2111 01:49:02.159 --> 01:49:02.520 You're just. 2112 01:49:04.159 --> 01:49:13.479 I mean, when do you guys feel like in your 2113 01:49:13.560 --> 01:49:16.039 Sid tribute that it just reached like a point where 2114 01:49:16.119 --> 01:49:22.640 it was just like delirium. I think it was when 2115 01:49:22.760 --> 01:49:28.399 JP had Sid say, in a fit of rage after 2116 01:49:28.479 --> 01:49:31.000 being told he doesn't get the night off, he takes 2117 01:49:31.039 --> 01:49:37.960 it eat my cunt. I thought that was when we 2118 01:49:38.079 --> 01:49:38.880 lost all control. 2119 01:49:39.279 --> 01:49:40.079 That's exactly it. 2120 01:49:41.039 --> 01:49:44.039 And the key ones on the replane that you don't 2121 01:49:44.079 --> 01:49:46.920 get on the first airring is Sid doesn't just brutally 2122 01:49:46.960 --> 01:49:50.279 attack Sean. He cheap shots Sean, and there's dialogue where 2123 01:49:50.319 --> 01:49:53.479 Sid backs off and Sean has a much more forceful like, 2124 01:49:53.560 --> 01:49:55.439 you know, I'm cranky, I'm sure, I'm tired, I'm hurt. 2125 01:49:55.479 --> 01:49:57.960 I don't need this right now. Sid backs off, Sean 2126 01:49:58.039 --> 01:50:00.760 turns around, he cold cox him. But on the first airing, 2127 01:50:00.800 --> 01:50:03.640 it looks like Sid, like Vince said, just fucking attacked him, 2128 01:50:04.079 --> 01:50:07.600 you know, because he's because he's telling him he doesn't 2129 01:50:07.600 --> 01:50:09.239 need him anymore. So that was a that was a 2130 01:50:09.319 --> 01:50:11.279 key subtletye to miss, which makes me think that they 2131 01:50:11.359 --> 01:50:14.079 definitely didn't intend on it playing out the way it 2132 01:50:14.119 --> 01:50:16.479 did on week one, but there it is. That's the 2133 01:50:17.279 --> 01:50:19.319 that's the heel turn that sends Sean away for a while, 2134 01:50:19.600 --> 01:50:21.319 and that sets up one of the key programs for 2135 01:50:21.439 --> 01:50:23.960 WBF in nineteen ninety five, Diesel versus SID for the 2136 01:50:24.039 --> 01:50:26.640 championship and as we mentioned and headlines the very first 2137 01:50:26.720 --> 01:50:28.960 in your house because they introduced the concept in May 2138 01:50:29.039 --> 01:50:32.840 of nineteen ninety five. Of these two houses, it's shut us. Yes, 2139 01:50:33.640 --> 01:50:35.760 the concept of this cut rate two hour pay per view, 2140 01:50:35.920 --> 01:50:39.239 and we've covered them in the archives. The matches, let's do. 2141 01:50:39.319 --> 01:50:42.520 I'll you what we'll do. We'll do a cut rate, 2142 01:50:42.840 --> 01:50:45.159 shortened pay per view and we'll do a for those. 2143 01:50:45.680 --> 01:50:47.359 For that first one, we'll do a cut right match. 2144 01:50:47.479 --> 01:50:47.880 That's right. 2145 01:50:48.199 --> 01:50:50.840 The matches, Boss, are not good. I think Suffice not good. 2146 01:50:51.399 --> 01:50:52.159 This is not uh. 2147 01:50:53.159 --> 01:50:55.600 This does not make one bullish on Sid's prospects upon 2148 01:50:55.720 --> 01:50:58.439 return of WWF. When he has to match wits and 2149 01:50:58.520 --> 01:51:01.359 styles with Kevin Nash and he's kind of tough, it's awful. 2150 01:51:02.079 --> 01:51:04.399 Well what was awful about it? I feel like I 2151 01:51:05.720 --> 01:51:07.279 have I have an idea, but I want to hear 2152 01:51:07.319 --> 01:51:10.159 what you say. I mean it just you know, it's 2153 01:51:10.199 --> 01:51:13.399 one of those matchups that it looks great on paper. 2154 01:51:15.199 --> 01:51:17.840 It looks great on paper, it makes sense, but the 2155 01:51:18.000 --> 01:51:21.720 excitement just does not materialize come near. 2156 01:51:22.479 --> 01:51:25.560 Not to forget about having a good match, you know, 2157 01:51:27.279 --> 01:51:31.840 like In my mind, I wanted them to just have 2158 01:51:32.159 --> 01:51:36.000 just you know, whenever whenever there was a there was 2159 01:51:36.239 --> 01:51:40.279 a time when I was younger where I was like, Okay, 2160 01:51:41.079 --> 01:51:45.840 I need this to be you know, I even though 2161 01:51:45.960 --> 01:51:52.399 I longed for Hull Cogan, I also needed to kind 2162 01:51:52.439 --> 01:51:56.800 of have a new, a newer like show that could 2163 01:51:57.239 --> 01:52:00.319 be like a hul Cogan type show, you know, like 2164 01:52:00.399 --> 01:52:06.399 I wanted in a weird way, I wanted Sid and 2165 01:52:07.800 --> 01:52:11.960 uh Diesel to be a modern version of Hogan Andre. 2166 01:52:13.479 --> 01:52:15.479 So I could watch a current show but have the 2167 01:52:15.520 --> 01:52:20.159 same feeling yep as watching an older show, you know. 2168 01:52:20.239 --> 01:52:24.279 So I could have the newer uh everything. And I 2169 01:52:24.399 --> 01:52:26.520 always longed for that, Like I always wanted to have 2170 01:52:28.279 --> 01:52:34.800 a match that could resemble something from earlier but not 2171 01:52:35.399 --> 01:52:37.000 but not be that that old show. 2172 01:52:37.159 --> 01:52:39.399 It's the first vestiges you get as a wrestling fan 2173 01:52:39.520 --> 01:52:41.199 of what keeps you hooked the rest of your life. 2174 01:52:41.279 --> 01:52:43.880 This like this, like that's what I'm looking for. That's 2175 01:52:43.920 --> 01:52:46.920 the feeling I'll plug into. Yeah, that's what got me hooked, 2176 01:52:47.000 --> 01:52:48.800 And you just spend the rest of your fucking life 2177 01:52:50.000 --> 01:52:52.960 trying to get that back in a sustainable way. You know, 2178 01:52:53.039 --> 01:52:55.079 You'll get bits and pieces. You'll get teases to keep 2179 01:52:55.079 --> 01:52:58.319 you around, of course, but yeah, I mean once Diesel 2180 01:52:58.359 --> 01:53:00.720 and Sid get in the ring, you're like, wait a minute, No, 2181 01:53:00.960 --> 01:53:03.600 this is not as this does not feel anywhere near 2182 01:53:03.680 --> 01:53:06.479 as epicas as I led myself to believe. 2183 01:53:07.199 --> 01:53:07.960 It is not good. 2184 01:53:08.560 --> 01:53:12.560 And we've heard, you know, Kevin Nash speak on Sid's return. 2185 01:53:12.680 --> 01:53:15.840 We've heard Vince on Commentaries speak on Sid's return. We've 2186 01:53:16.199 --> 01:53:21.520 we've heard Shawn Michaels and Bruce Pritchard speak about sids return. 2187 01:53:21.600 --> 01:53:24.600 How about Sid himself, Oh boy, this is how he 2188 01:53:24.800 --> 01:53:28.119 remembers finding his way back into the More Wrestling Federation, 2189 01:53:28.239 --> 01:53:31.079 as we just heard on the podcast interview he did 2190 01:53:31.119 --> 01:53:31.800 with Sean Mooney. 2191 01:53:32.760 --> 01:53:37.640 No one. I'd left Vince on bad terms, but I 2192 01:53:37.800 --> 01:53:41.479 still believed in myself enough that Vince needed someone like 2193 01:53:41.600 --> 01:53:42.479 me and he would, you. 2194 01:53:42.520 --> 01:53:43.920 Know, use me now. 2195 01:53:44.239 --> 01:53:47.039 Reluctantly he did. He called me in I was working 2196 01:53:47.079 --> 01:53:51.079 for Memphis and he had me flying to the office 2197 01:53:51.079 --> 01:53:53.640 here in Stanford. He told me exactly what he wanted 2198 01:53:53.680 --> 01:53:55.800 me to do, and I told him exactly what I 2199 01:53:55.880 --> 01:53:57.560 had to have to do it. And that's how we've 2200 01:53:57.720 --> 01:54:01.800 come to terms, you know. So that's how I came 2201 01:54:01.840 --> 01:54:04.039 back at Psycho said, of course we know the reason 2202 01:54:04.079 --> 01:54:09.119 they called me Psycho sid righty are you laughing, Sean? 2203 01:54:09.560 --> 01:54:12.079 Uh huh? Wow? Did you just laugh? 2204 01:54:12.159 --> 01:54:12.399 Sean? 2205 01:54:12.760 --> 01:54:16.800 No, I said, I love this story. Another story is. 2206 01:54:16.960 --> 01:54:20.479 I didn't even know what Psycho said was about, and 2207 01:54:20.680 --> 01:54:24.159 even the music, because again, Sean, I don't fucking care. 2208 01:54:24.600 --> 01:54:27.680 So when I come back making Georgia and no shit, 2209 01:54:27.880 --> 01:54:30.000 they didn't have maybe one hundred people in the audience 2210 01:54:30.079 --> 01:54:32.920 at night WWF, and I was thinking, what the fuck 2211 01:54:33.079 --> 01:54:36.399 is going on here? You know, now realize why they 2212 01:54:36.439 --> 01:54:38.640 were willing to bring me back. They were on their 2213 01:54:38.800 --> 01:54:43.640 fucking ass big time. And then again, people didn't get 2214 01:54:43.720 --> 01:54:46.399 paid for a month at a time. And that's where 2215 01:54:46.640 --> 01:54:48.680 I said, Okay, I got this job. I'll make the 2216 01:54:48.720 --> 01:54:51.680 best of it. I think I made about little was 2217 01:54:51.720 --> 01:54:54.079 three hundred grand that year, not great, but enough to 2218 01:54:54.239 --> 01:54:55.600 you know, pay the bills. 2219 01:54:57.119 --> 01:54:59.920 So is the hall not great? I mean three grand 2220 01:55:00.079 --> 01:55:04.479 for working from fucking what March until November, not. 2221 01:55:04.600 --> 01:55:07.279 Even wrestling in the ring. At wrestling me right right, 2222 01:55:07.359 --> 01:55:13.439 I'm probably getting a paycheck commensurate with Sean's and Diesels, 2223 01:55:13.439 --> 01:55:16.039 if not exactly the same. But all he thinks about is. 2224 01:55:16.479 --> 01:55:18.279 I had someone tell me I could make five hundred 2225 01:55:18.279 --> 01:55:20.680 thousand in WCW before I left, and I told myself 2226 01:55:20.720 --> 01:55:22.479 that's what I was worth. So three hundred and fifty 2227 01:55:22.479 --> 01:55:25.840 thousand is a pay cut, So you know how that goes. Yeah, 2228 01:55:26.680 --> 01:55:28.840 but you know he's smart. He knows Vince is going 2229 01:55:28.880 --> 01:55:30.159 to have to come back to him, and he knows 2230 01:55:30.239 --> 01:55:33.079 it's because he's fucking massive, and he knows how to 2231 01:55:33.159 --> 01:55:37.279 stay massive, even in a regime that's pretending to test 2232 01:55:37.319 --> 01:55:39.840 for steroids, or at least that is testing for steroids, 2233 01:55:39.920 --> 01:55:44.560 but is negotiable that there's ways around it, apparently. 2234 01:55:44.720 --> 01:55:46.880 And by the way, I know, I can tell for 2235 01:55:46.960 --> 01:55:49.000 a fact that Sean Mooney had no fucking idea what 2236 01:55:49.079 --> 01:55:49.479 that story was. 2237 01:55:49.600 --> 01:55:51.520 Oh, he got terrified, is what happened. He didn't know 2238 01:55:51.520 --> 01:55:55.800 if sid was actually mad at him for snickering when 2239 01:55:55.840 --> 01:55:57.439 they said, you know why they called me psycho? 2240 01:55:59.279 --> 01:55:59.600 I don't know. 2241 01:55:59.600 --> 01:56:01.479 I don't know if that was said jumping into character. 2242 01:56:02.600 --> 01:56:04.399 That'd be a little clever. You never hear him ever 2243 01:56:04.520 --> 01:56:07.079 do that and shoot interviews like reverting to KFE. But 2244 01:56:07.159 --> 01:56:08.720 in that moment, I was not sure what to make 2245 01:56:08.760 --> 01:56:14.079 of that. Actually, I really wasn't. But still that's that's 2246 01:56:14.359 --> 01:56:17.239 that's his recollection of things. And and of course, yes 2247 01:56:17.319 --> 01:56:19.960 he feels underpaid by the end of it, you know 2248 01:56:20.159 --> 01:56:20.600 that goes. 2249 01:56:21.560 --> 01:56:24.399 But he felt underpaid by going on Sean Mooney's podcast. 2250 01:56:26.560 --> 01:56:28.600 Well there's no telling what kind of deal they worked out. 2251 01:56:29.239 --> 01:56:32.840 But but yeah, so Sid's back and that's that's his 2252 01:56:32.920 --> 01:56:36.560 perspective on how and why. And here's some more from Bruce. 2253 01:56:36.640 --> 01:56:39.680 This is Pritchard talking about the genesis of the name 2254 01:56:39.760 --> 01:56:43.239 and the origins of the name and kind of trying 2255 01:56:43.239 --> 01:56:45.960 to remember the chronology of when indeed they decided he 2256 01:56:46.000 --> 01:56:47.079 would be the Psycho one. 2257 01:56:47.640 --> 01:56:50.760 But allegedly upon his return here he tells Vince, I 2258 01:56:50.800 --> 01:56:53.439 won't be called Psycho, said, I'll be said vicious, or 2259 01:56:53.439 --> 01:56:55.760 I'll be said but not Psycho said. Now, of course 2260 01:56:55.840 --> 01:56:59.359 we know we get there eventually. And when he makes 2261 01:56:59.399 --> 01:57:03.520 a debut on February twentieth, Sean introduces him, ask Sid, 2262 01:57:04.439 --> 01:57:06.960 was there ever discussion that you know of here in 2263 01:57:07.039 --> 01:57:08.520 ninety five of calling him psycho? 2264 01:57:08.640 --> 01:57:12.680 Said, see, I don't remember the psycho Sid came until 2265 01:57:12.880 --> 01:57:18.359 after the stuff with Sean, after WrestleMania, when Sid attacked Sean. 2266 01:57:18.760 --> 01:57:22.039 The idea Vince didn't like Sid Justice because he felt 2267 01:57:22.119 --> 01:57:23.119 that Sid Justice was. 2268 01:57:23.079 --> 01:57:24.000 A babyface name. 2269 01:57:24.279 --> 01:57:26.560 I agree with that, so that's why we went with 2270 01:57:26.840 --> 01:57:27.239 just Sid. 2271 01:57:27.760 --> 01:57:31.359 And the idea behind him being in Shawn's corner was 2272 01:57:31.399 --> 01:57:32.960 he was just bodyguard Sid. 2273 01:57:33.720 --> 01:57:34.119 That was it. 2274 01:57:34.560 --> 01:57:38.439 And the funny thing to me was throughout this whole 2275 01:57:38.479 --> 01:57:43.800 relationship with Sean, it was an very interesting dynamic between 2276 01:57:43.920 --> 01:57:47.479 Shawn and Sid because here you got this big monster 2277 01:57:47.640 --> 01:57:50.560 Sid and I remember him like doing kind of fixing 2278 01:57:50.640 --> 01:57:52.800 Sean's hair when Sean would get the coat on and 2279 01:57:52.920 --> 01:57:55.680 fluff his hair out, and then he would help Sean 2280 01:57:55.800 --> 01:57:58.760 tie his tie and put him all together. It was 2281 01:57:59.039 --> 01:58:02.960 it just was interesting. Here's this big, nasty looking bastard 2282 01:58:03.079 --> 01:58:06.039 taking care of of Sean. He really looked after him, 2283 01:58:06.079 --> 01:58:09.520 which was it was kind of funny in and of itself, 2284 01:58:09.600 --> 01:58:13.479 but they had I mean, they kind of clicked together. 2285 01:58:13.600 --> 01:58:18.000 They really did. Okay, there you go. 2286 01:58:18.720 --> 01:58:20.920 So the names on the table and you would think, 2287 01:58:21.079 --> 01:58:25.239 you know, here's the thing, we can figure it out. 2288 01:58:25.279 --> 01:58:27.960 We hear the song. We heard the entrance music when 2289 01:58:28.000 --> 01:58:29.279 he came back back for the first time. 2290 01:58:29.720 --> 01:58:30.520 Yes, on that raw. 2291 01:58:30.640 --> 01:58:33.640 We know where that comes from. Sid as he's proud 2292 01:58:33.680 --> 01:58:36.560 to say, is no dummy. He knows the connotations here, 2293 01:58:36.800 --> 01:58:41.640 But does he What if Boss Sid never saw Psycho? 2294 01:58:42.319 --> 01:58:44.079 Oh, that's what I would believe. 2295 01:58:44.119 --> 01:58:44.800 It has no idea. 2296 01:58:45.239 --> 01:58:47.000 Oh, I didn't know that was my name that. 2297 01:58:47.119 --> 01:58:50.239 Night, you know this is you know, actually I was 2298 01:58:50.279 --> 01:58:52.960 working for the Miss Territory, you know, trying to make 2299 01:58:53.000 --> 01:58:53.960 a big secret out of it. 2300 01:58:54.399 --> 01:58:55.119 He flew me in. 2301 01:58:55.359 --> 01:58:57.560 We were up and doing a show with Zille every 2302 01:58:57.600 --> 01:59:00.600 Wednesday night. We do from Louisville and Edsville from Wednesday. 2303 01:59:01.079 --> 01:59:03.760 And during that day I flew into the office and 2304 01:59:03.920 --> 01:59:07.079 we sit there and talked about coming in and doing 2305 01:59:07.159 --> 01:59:07.600 some stuff. 2306 01:59:07.680 --> 01:59:10.279 And then so they brought me back and asked me 2307 01:59:10.399 --> 01:59:11.760 to do it, and I said, yeah, I'd. 2308 01:59:11.600 --> 01:59:12.199 Like to come back. 2309 01:59:12.640 --> 01:59:15.680 And so I think it's making Georgia's our first TV. 2310 01:59:16.119 --> 01:59:19.600 And I actually walked to the ring and I don't 2311 01:59:19.600 --> 01:59:22.840 even remember them said what they called me, and didn't 2312 01:59:22.880 --> 01:59:26.239 remember the music and the lighting, if from understanding, was 2313 01:59:26.720 --> 01:59:30.079 like the water in the shower from the girl getting stabbed. 2314 01:59:30.439 --> 01:59:32.279 I didn't know that. So when I come back to 2315 01:59:32.319 --> 01:59:33.399 the dust room, I'm. 2316 01:59:33.239 --> 01:59:35.439 The last one and I usually had the last one 2317 01:59:35.520 --> 01:59:37.000 to know that I'm getting ribbed. 2318 01:59:37.279 --> 01:59:39.960 And some of the guys. Who wasn't They go, you know, 2319 01:59:40.079 --> 01:59:41.239 what just happened? And whatnother? 2320 01:59:41.319 --> 01:59:43.520 They said, you just did the shower scene of the 2321 01:59:43.560 --> 01:59:46.640 Psycho movie. I went, oh shit, So it was sort 2322 01:59:46.680 --> 01:59:48.560 of I didn't pick up on it myself. 2323 01:59:48.920 --> 01:59:52.840 I had no clue, imagine. I mean, also, they didn't 2324 01:59:52.920 --> 01:59:54.319 you didn't do the shower scene. 2325 01:59:55.119 --> 01:59:57.159 No, he didn't. You didn't do it. 2326 01:59:57.560 --> 01:59:58.800 You didn't stab anybody? 2327 01:59:58.880 --> 02:00:00.800 Yeah, like, yeah, you didn't come out there and like 2328 02:00:00.920 --> 02:00:03.560 fucking open up a shower curtain and stab a naked woman. 2329 02:00:04.920 --> 02:00:06.880 All right, Like you didn't do the scene. You just 2330 02:00:07.319 --> 02:00:12.880 they played the music and you know, and you walked out. 2331 02:00:13.000 --> 02:00:15.560 I didn't know that the water drops, that's something I 2332 02:00:15.560 --> 02:00:17.600 did always wonder why they had kind of those that 2333 02:00:17.840 --> 02:00:20.880 drop spotty. Look, that's very interesting. I never picked up. 2334 02:00:20.920 --> 02:00:21.960 When you said that drops body. 2335 02:00:21.960 --> 02:00:25.680 Look you mean where the lighting? Oh, when he comes out, 2336 02:00:26.119 --> 02:00:28.039 when he comes out, he had that kind of lighting. 2337 02:00:28.319 --> 02:00:28.920 I remember that. 2338 02:00:29.119 --> 02:00:30.640 Oh wow. See I didn't. I didn't pick up on 2339 02:00:30.640 --> 02:00:30.960 that at all. 2340 02:00:30.960 --> 02:00:33.279 I never really picked up on it, being you know, 2341 02:00:33.399 --> 02:00:35.479 I guess I never really picked it up. I mean, 2342 02:00:36.079 --> 02:00:40.399 I obviously knew that the music at that point, but 2343 02:00:40.520 --> 02:00:42.479 I didn't really like pick up. It was like a 2344 02:00:42.640 --> 02:00:45.720 direct I thought it was more like a flavor as 2345 02:00:45.760 --> 02:00:49.880 opposed to like, I don't know what they were implying 2346 02:00:50.840 --> 02:00:51.640 right right. 2347 02:00:52.800 --> 02:01:17.399 The Lapstan Wrestling podcast. He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast 2348 02:01:17.840 --> 02:01:18.479 with Jack And. 2349 02:01:21.119 --> 02:01:23.199 Yeah, that's that. That's an even stronger signal. I didn't 2350 02:01:23.199 --> 02:01:24.960 even think about that. I only thought about the music. 2351 02:01:25.039 --> 02:01:28.359 But the fact that they try to replicate a steamy shower. 2352 02:01:28.560 --> 02:01:30.640 Well, like, yeah, it's like water drops, like you know, 2353 02:01:30.760 --> 02:01:32.199 I remember, I do remember that, Like it was like 2354 02:01:32.279 --> 02:01:34.199 blue he had like blue spots or something like that. 2355 02:01:34.439 --> 02:01:38.119 Yeah, right, as lighting. But he didn't know there's nother movie. 2356 02:01:38.119 --> 02:01:42.680 Here's no fucking, no fucking ship. Tremendous, so tremendous. That's said, 2357 02:01:42.800 --> 02:01:45.960 like you can just like you can sneak in whatever 2358 02:01:46.039 --> 02:01:48.199 characterizations you want as long as the checks are coming, 2359 02:01:48.239 --> 02:01:49.479 He's not gonna notice, you know. 2360 02:01:49.720 --> 02:01:51.920 Yeah, the checks are coming in the vienna to getting 2361 02:01:51.920 --> 02:01:52.319 to the church. 2362 02:01:54.359 --> 02:01:56.119 Well he's back now and he's in the line of 2363 02:01:56.199 --> 02:02:00.000 fire Boss. According to the pages of w WF magazine, 2364 02:02:01.119 --> 02:02:03.720 we've been using the Big two magazine coverage of Sid 2365 02:02:03.840 --> 02:02:06.640 is kind of like signposts for his evolution as a 2366 02:02:06.720 --> 02:02:09.159 character and to get a flavor of how he was presented. 2367 02:02:09.239 --> 02:02:12.079 We of course hit you with some great vintage WWF 2368 02:02:12.159 --> 02:02:15.119 magazine clippings last time in terms of how we were 2369 02:02:15.199 --> 02:02:18.520 introduced to Sid Justice as avid readers of the Company magazine. 2370 02:02:19.359 --> 02:02:21.039 And now that he's back, it's time that he sits 2371 02:02:21.079 --> 02:02:24.039 with Vic Venom aka Vince Russo for an in depth 2372 02:02:24.159 --> 02:02:26.359 Q and A and apparently a photo shoot at the 2373 02:02:26.479 --> 02:02:27.760 Cheers Bar in Boston. 2374 02:02:27.800 --> 02:02:29.960 I do not know. That's fucking weird. 2375 02:02:30.119 --> 02:02:31.760 Maybe they were just coming back from the in High 2376 02:02:31.800 --> 02:02:32.239 Gear tour. 2377 02:02:33.000 --> 02:02:35.399 Maybe maybe maybe this was the maybe this was right 2378 02:02:35.479 --> 02:02:38.680 after maybe they maybe they were doing this the same 2379 02:02:38.800 --> 02:02:41.399 day they were doing you know, they were in Worcester. 2380 02:02:41.680 --> 02:02:43.479 Maybe they said maybe was. 2381 02:02:43.520 --> 02:02:46.920 Like, why don't I go to Boston right with Sid 2382 02:02:48.640 --> 02:02:52.560 and we'll take pictures. Well, Boss, I would really appreciate 2383 02:02:52.600 --> 02:02:56.720 it if you could serenade us with this uh probing 2384 02:02:56.760 --> 02:02:59.680 look into Sid psyche and I'll be providing the voice 2385 02:02:59.680 --> 02:03:00.840 of the or when we get there. 2386 02:03:01.159 --> 02:03:02.640 All right, Yes, I was gonna say, I need you 2387 02:03:02.720 --> 02:03:07.479 to be uh to be Russo before the patrons of 2388 02:03:07.560 --> 02:03:10.560 the bar even had the chance to say, Norm, brother, 2389 02:03:12.000 --> 02:03:14.439 what Norm? 2390 02:03:14.479 --> 02:03:18.800 And the lunatic dude where what in norm do you like? 2391 02:03:18.880 --> 02:03:20.479 What do you am? 2392 02:03:20.520 --> 02:03:23.000 I outside the norm? Or's he inside? 2393 02:03:23.600 --> 02:03:34.840 Wait? Who? Well Hogan? What? Who said what? Before the 2394 02:03:34.920 --> 02:03:37.079 patrons of the bar even had the chance to say norm, 2395 02:03:37.880 --> 02:03:40.039 the good people of the Bull and Finch bub a 2396 02:03:40.159 --> 02:03:44.680 Ka cheers had already felt the presence of the curly locked, 2397 02:03:44.840 --> 02:03:47.840 blonde haired, twisted looking stranger. 2398 02:03:51.600 --> 02:03:55.640 You know, if I describe, if I described Sid, yes, 2399 02:03:55.800 --> 02:03:59.000 I would say he's a curly locked, blonde haired, twisted 2400 02:03:59.039 --> 02:03:59.920 looking stranger. 2401 02:04:00.319 --> 02:04:04.640 Yeah, that's about right. All the way from Arkansas to 2402 02:04:04.720 --> 02:04:10.159 visit their friendly establishment in Boston, Massachusetts, everybody knew his name, 2403 02:04:10.680 --> 02:04:14.520 apparently not if he's a stranger. Just yeah, No, it 2404 02:04:14.720 --> 02:04:18.680 wasn't Sam WOODI or Cliff, nor was it Carla, Diane 2405 02:04:18.960 --> 02:04:20.319 or miss. 2406 02:04:22.079 --> 02:04:25.000 This is huge, I don't know, I don't know who 2407 02:04:25.039 --> 02:04:28.640 that is? Oh, miss Howe is how okay? This is 2408 02:04:28.800 --> 02:04:32.319 Russo demonstrating that he watches television here. 2409 02:04:32.880 --> 02:04:36.359 Yeah. Well, the name, ladies and gentlemen, was just Plane 2410 02:04:36.560 --> 02:04:37.359 Sid or if you. 2411 02:04:37.399 --> 02:04:40.800 Prefer Psycho, damn there it is in black and white. 2412 02:04:40.880 --> 02:04:43.680 And also they put the P before like it would 2413 02:04:43.720 --> 02:04:45.600 end up just becoming the S right because they can 2414 02:04:45.800 --> 02:04:48.680 do trademark that right, and they can do you know, 2415 02:04:49.000 --> 02:04:51.439 stupid like alliteration with it. 2416 02:04:51.960 --> 02:04:56.359 Is the August nineteen ninety folks, Sid sucks, perhaps right, Yeah, 2417 02:04:56.439 --> 02:04:59.319 that's right, they could do the S's August ninety five 2418 02:04:59.359 --> 02:04:59.960 issue by the way. 2419 02:05:00.680 --> 02:05:04.079 Okay, all right, so well, after in high gear on 2420 02:05:04.239 --> 02:05:08.039 this drizzling, gray, overcast Saturday, Sid decided that he wanted 2421 02:05:08.039 --> 02:05:11.520 to visit the landmark that had inspired the legendary sitcom Cheers. 2422 02:05:12.119 --> 02:05:16.880 Getting this inside information from the trusty informer, I immediately 2423 02:05:17.000 --> 02:05:19.720 hopped into my car and headed to eighty four Beacon Street, 2424 02:05:20.159 --> 02:05:23.960 downtown Beantown. Guess what. Once I reached my destination, it 2425 02:05:24.039 --> 02:05:26.640 didn't take me too long to find him. Within the 2426 02:05:26.720 --> 02:05:29.760 first five minutes that I had set my sights on him, 2427 02:05:30.159 --> 02:05:33.760 eye witnessed Sid scare the Bejesus out of two innocent 2428 02:05:34.119 --> 02:05:39.239 looking children who were merely seeking his autograph, physically lift 2429 02:05:39.399 --> 02:05:45.439 two young men use me off the sideck simultaneously buy 2430 02:05:45.560 --> 02:05:50.880 their throats. Where's the Boston PD for this shit for 2431 02:05:51.039 --> 02:05:54.239 simply looking at him? Beat up a family sedan because 2432 02:05:54.239 --> 02:05:58.680 a poor unknowing housewife had the gall to ask him 2433 02:05:58.720 --> 02:06:02.159 to please get off it so she could pull out brother. 2434 02:06:02.359 --> 02:06:04.840 What get off it, so we could pull out, get off, 2435 02:06:04.920 --> 02:06:07.560 to pull out to what SID doesn't get off? 2436 02:06:07.680 --> 02:06:08.119 I pull out. 2437 02:06:08.199 --> 02:06:11.159 SID doesn't know anything about pulling out of a show. 2438 02:06:13.159 --> 02:06:15.439 Well, I don't you mean? I mean I have to 2439 02:06:15.720 --> 02:06:17.199 pull in with Terry. I forgot. 2440 02:06:17.199 --> 02:06:19.600 It's nothing to do with you. This is an article 2441 02:06:19.600 --> 02:06:21.800 about Sid. Why are you reading it as if it's 2442 02:06:21.880 --> 02:06:23.359 like veiled shots at you. 2443 02:06:24.560 --> 02:06:27.640 Well, I'm I'm not reading. I don't have them. I 2444 02:06:27.680 --> 02:06:30.079 don't I don't read the magazine, dude, I just heard things. 2445 02:06:30.159 --> 02:06:32.520 Who's this Linda Kelly brother that edits the magazine? 2446 02:06:32.800 --> 02:06:36.520 Who's Who's who's the lady in the back brother watching it? 2447 02:06:37.520 --> 02:06:40.199 Well, Terry, Terry, I'm sorry this is a ca FA deal. 2448 02:06:40.279 --> 02:06:42.960 But with Linda Kelly, that's Linda McMahon. Linda is the person. 2449 02:06:43.039 --> 02:06:50.119 What what do you mean Linda McMahon, dude, she's the editor. 2450 02:06:50.199 --> 02:06:54.680 She who Anything you've seen in that magazine is crossed 2451 02:06:54.720 --> 02:06:59.319 her eyes, and she's approved it, and she's she's improved. 2452 02:06:59.479 --> 02:07:00.960 She's in fame favor of what. 2453 02:07:01.000 --> 02:07:06.880 Do you favor? Favor with the Lynda McMann brother. I 2454 02:07:06.920 --> 02:07:08.760 didn't know who this Linda Kelly really. 2455 02:07:08.640 --> 02:07:10.640 Is, dude, it's Lynda McMahon. I know it might be 2456 02:07:11.840 --> 02:07:12.359 that you're going. 2457 02:07:12.279 --> 02:07:14.000 To tell me that Lina McMahon is going on there 2458 02:07:14.079 --> 02:07:17.359 on a k fabe name, dude, bullshit brother. 2459 02:07:19.399 --> 02:07:21.319 I know who's work work dude. 2460 02:07:22.800 --> 02:07:29.199 I know for a fat brother that it's you know, well, 2461 02:07:29.239 --> 02:07:32.319 I can't tell you the otherwise, fucking burst my bubble. 2462 02:07:34.239 --> 02:07:34.960 What's the next move? 2463 02:07:35.079 --> 02:07:43.319 Terry big bootleg drop? That was the next movie? 2464 02:07:43.319 --> 02:07:43.479 Why? 2465 02:07:43.560 --> 02:07:43.920 Of course? 2466 02:07:46.079 --> 02:07:48.680 And Las but not Lee snapped the umbrella of an 2467 02:07:48.680 --> 02:07:52.079 excited tourist to have the quote audacity to ask him 2468 02:07:52.119 --> 02:07:54.640 if he could take just his picture? Could just take 2469 02:07:54.720 --> 02:07:55.199 his picture? 2470 02:07:55.239 --> 02:07:58.640 I have three guys in this picture here watching with 2471 02:07:58.800 --> 02:08:01.079 the muse looks on their face while Sid pretends to 2472 02:08:01.119 --> 02:08:01.960 snap their umbrella. 2473 02:08:02.119 --> 02:08:04.119 He's like fucking holding it like you know, as if 2474 02:08:04.159 --> 02:08:07.560 he's you know, there's no sense of violence going on, 2475 02:08:07.800 --> 02:08:11.279 like it's you can tell he pose for that picture. 2476 02:08:11.359 --> 02:08:14.600 Yes, the knee is standing there stiff waiting for them 2477 02:08:14.640 --> 02:08:16.640 to snap the picture of him pretending to snap the 2478 02:08:16.760 --> 02:08:19.079 umbrella over his knee like Bo Jackson does a baseball bat. 2479 02:08:20.000 --> 02:08:23.359 And then they have him yanking on a fucking when 2480 02:08:23.560 --> 02:08:24.279 windshield wipe. 2481 02:08:24.439 --> 02:08:27.479 I know with this woman screaming in. 2482 02:08:27.520 --> 02:08:31.039 The background so bizarre. And next he's gonna find a 2483 02:08:31.039 --> 02:08:31.800 squeegee in there. 2484 02:08:32.319 --> 02:08:37.279 Yeah, brother, you think this job is fun? I had 2485 02:08:37.319 --> 02:08:41.920 to interview this maniac brother editor. 2486 02:08:42.319 --> 02:08:44.399 Then you can see the back of Vincruzzo's head there. 2487 02:08:45.319 --> 02:08:49.319 Fucking vest And what an idiot, what a fucking moron 2488 02:08:49.399 --> 02:08:51.359 he is, the way he dresses. 2489 02:08:53.720 --> 02:08:56.199 Remember walking by Cheers when we went to that side 2490 02:08:56.239 --> 02:08:57.039 of campus. 2491 02:08:57.119 --> 02:08:59.479 Oh god, yeah, they fucking I went there a couple 2492 02:08:59.479 --> 02:09:03.520 of times too. I think the burg absolutely had a 2493 02:09:03.560 --> 02:09:08.399 burger sat down there, you know, and was thoroughly disappointed 2494 02:09:08.439 --> 02:09:11.760 that it did not look like Cheers until I went 2495 02:09:11.800 --> 02:09:13.840 to the Faniel Hall one, which did look like Cheers. 2496 02:09:15.680 --> 02:09:19.000 Said, YO, said, do you mind if I get a 2497 02:09:19.039 --> 02:09:20.319 word with you for the magazine? 2498 02:09:20.800 --> 02:09:24.520 The magazine you call that part trash? 2499 02:09:24.560 --> 02:09:31.399 A magazine, that ridiculous mass of saper paper that had 2500 02:09:31.479 --> 02:09:34.840 that pathetic good Samaritan on the cover, safe in his 2501 02:09:35.000 --> 02:09:41.880 broken buddy, that glossy pilot that red sid snaps as 2502 02:09:42.119 --> 02:09:43.239 friends reunite. 2503 02:09:44.319 --> 02:09:46.760 Is it the magazine you're talking about, miss. 2504 02:09:46.760 --> 02:09:50.960 Treasurer swallowing, swallowing very hard. Uh yeah, that's the one. 2505 02:09:51.000 --> 02:09:53.880 I mean, Well, let me tell you something, you pathetic 2506 02:09:54.000 --> 02:09:59.399 human being I rid your stinking story and that piece 2507 02:09:59.479 --> 02:10:00.000 of garbe. 2508 02:10:00.039 --> 02:10:01.159 It was all wrong. 2509 02:10:02.960 --> 02:10:08.720 You call yourself a journalist, You nothing but a low down, dirty, 2510 02:10:08.840 --> 02:10:12.199 stinking liar. You are no truth. 2511 02:10:12.720 --> 02:10:14.680 Well, yes, I shut up. 2512 02:10:15.600 --> 02:10:22.479 Well it speaks you magine. Sean called me, he wanted me. 2513 02:10:24.000 --> 02:10:28.880 I was never his bodyguard. The understanding was that we 2514 02:10:29.479 --> 02:10:33.960 were supposed to watch each other's back. The problem began 2515 02:10:35.239 --> 02:10:39.960 due to Sean being so wrapped up in himself. Sean 2516 02:10:40.039 --> 02:10:43.760 knew right away that the people only believed in me 2517 02:10:43.960 --> 02:10:49.000 and not him. That set off as ego. Sean knows 2518 02:10:49.199 --> 02:10:52.880 why that he's not me. It's never gonna be me. 2519 02:10:54.079 --> 02:10:57.159 It will never be me, and it will never be 2520 02:10:57.279 --> 02:11:01.319 able to do the things that I do. That's why 2521 02:11:01.399 --> 02:11:04.680 he was trying to hog the spotlight by giving me 2522 02:11:04.800 --> 02:11:05.439 the night off. 2523 02:11:06.439 --> 02:11:07.840 Nobody gives me the night off. 2524 02:11:07.960 --> 02:11:13.600 Yes, nobody repeat it, say what it read what it says, boss, 2525 02:11:14.800 --> 02:11:15.079 go ahead. 2526 02:11:15.199 --> 02:11:16.920 Nobody gives me anything. 2527 02:11:20.199 --> 02:11:25.479 I mean, chef's kiss, chef's kiss, I mean, that's just sad. Really, 2528 02:11:25.720 --> 02:11:30.319 nobody gives me anything. The sid story, that's right, but 2529 02:11:30.680 --> 02:11:32.039 he was paying your salary. 2530 02:11:32.439 --> 02:11:38.760 Wait, Rod, there you pencil, push and puke. Nobody pays 2531 02:11:38.920 --> 02:11:43.159 me that's not what I heard. That's not what I 2532 02:11:43.319 --> 02:11:43.920 heard said. 2533 02:11:43.920 --> 02:11:44.760 That's the problem. 2534 02:11:45.840 --> 02:11:49.760 Nobody pays me what I deserve. Seaw Michael doesn't have 2535 02:11:49.880 --> 02:11:52.800 enough money to pay me. I've made more money in 2536 02:11:52.920 --> 02:11:57.960 one night than Sean made in a whole year. This 2537 02:11:58.199 --> 02:12:01.000 business is all about how much much money you're able 2538 02:12:01.039 --> 02:12:03.920 to bring in. Okay, so fucking now, he's fucking uh, 2539 02:12:04.760 --> 02:12:05.920 he's fucking exposing, he. 2540 02:12:08.079 --> 02:12:12.079 Said, quickly, just quickly. If nobody pays you, then how 2541 02:12:12.119 --> 02:12:14.199 do you make more money in one night than Sean does? 2542 02:12:15.520 --> 02:12:17.079 If nobody pays you, then why are you here? 2543 02:12:19.239 --> 02:12:21.439 Nobody pays you, How do you, I don't know, make money? 2544 02:12:21.880 --> 02:12:24.520 Yeah right? If nobody pays you, then you know, how 2545 02:12:24.560 --> 02:12:25.159 do you buy food? 2546 02:12:25.279 --> 02:12:25.920 Sound poor to me? 2547 02:12:26.000 --> 02:12:31.960 Pally? How many people you can put this is fucking fucked, 2548 02:12:32.039 --> 02:12:35.039 fucking breaking k favier. This business is all about how 2549 02:12:35.159 --> 02:12:38.640 much money you're able to bring in, how many people 2550 02:12:38.720 --> 02:12:42.079 you can put in the seats. Now that Shawn Michaels, 2551 02:12:42.399 --> 02:12:46.000 the Little Diesel has ever sold out a building in 2552 02:12:46.119 --> 02:12:47.079 their lives. 2553 02:12:46.880 --> 02:12:52.119 Oh ship in the company magazine, it's definitely russo trying 2554 02:12:52.159 --> 02:12:57.279 to slip one in, you know, yeah right, I'm then 2555 02:12:57.359 --> 02:12:59.159 so I didn't take a look at this month's magazine. 2556 02:12:59.159 --> 02:13:00.840 But I just just crossed my desk. I didn't get 2557 02:13:00.840 --> 02:13:02.600 a look at it for a winter publication. We'll talk 2558 02:13:02.640 --> 02:13:04.399 about what you're trying to get across here, this idea 2559 02:13:04.439 --> 02:13:05.880 that we're not drawing with our champion. 2560 02:13:06.199 --> 02:13:09.600 I mean, and you know, I don't mind. I understand 2561 02:13:09.640 --> 02:13:12.960 that you're trying to write an entertaining feature about sid 2562 02:13:13.079 --> 02:13:15.159 for the for the magazine. But what I don't understand 2563 02:13:15.239 --> 02:13:17.720 is why you're trying to expose the business and why 2564 02:13:17.760 --> 02:13:21.279 you're trying to insinuate that that we're not always selling 2565 02:13:21.359 --> 02:13:21.880 out houses. 2566 02:13:22.520 --> 02:13:24.319 Let me ask you a question, Vince, have you ever 2567 02:13:24.399 --> 02:13:25.079 sold out a house? 2568 02:13:25.600 --> 02:13:28.760 Let me you know, let me ask you something. Do 2569 02:13:28.920 --> 02:13:30.039 you sell houses? 2570 02:13:32.279 --> 02:13:34.359 Because I've got a pay per view coming up called 2571 02:13:34.399 --> 02:13:40.239 in your House, and we need a house to effectuate 2572 02:13:40.319 --> 02:13:41.119 this transaction. 2573 02:13:41.520 --> 02:13:44.119 We didn't do it hard, all right, because I can't 2574 02:13:44.159 --> 02:13:47.600 sell a house. I don't have the training. 2575 02:13:47.960 --> 02:13:51.359 Ye can you sell in your house? That doesn't doesn't 2576 02:13:51.399 --> 02:13:52.640 seem like a clear answer either. 2577 02:13:53.000 --> 02:13:56.439 I just don't understand where are we going. 2578 02:13:57.359 --> 02:14:00.399 This is before the raw magazine. I put it on 2579 02:14:00.479 --> 02:14:03.319 his desk, I said, Vince, this is where we're going. 2580 02:14:03.680 --> 02:14:06.439 Two weeks later, I'm in a creative meeting and he 2581 02:14:06.600 --> 02:14:10.000 holds up the magazine and he says, this, guys, is 2582 02:14:10.119 --> 02:14:11.239 where where headed? 2583 02:14:11.680 --> 02:14:14.520 And I don't even know where that is? Where am I? 2584 02:14:14.760 --> 02:14:18.800 Who's headed? Where? What? Where am I? 2585 02:14:19.199 --> 02:14:19.880 Who's headed? 2586 02:14:20.000 --> 02:14:20.239 Where? 2587 02:14:20.880 --> 02:14:20.920 What? 2588 02:14:22.119 --> 02:14:28.560 There's a lot happening there. Yes, not a good sign 2589 02:14:29.159 --> 02:14:31.439 in ninety five, especially if five. 2590 02:14:31.319 --> 02:14:33.359 No, not a good sign at all. I just want 2591 02:14:33.439 --> 02:14:38.760 to I just want to do well by my you know, 2592 02:14:39.760 --> 02:14:40.720 with my things. 2593 02:14:46.079 --> 02:14:50.159 Enough. Quotes from the cutscenes from the Netflix. 2594 02:14:50.800 --> 02:14:55.039 Do you remember wrestlingy eight over sixty thousand people at 2595 02:14:55.079 --> 02:14:57.920 the Who's your dome? Who was in the main event? 2596 02:14:58.880 --> 02:15:00.680 Word may wordman? 2597 02:15:00.840 --> 02:15:01.880 He says, like it's an insult. 2598 02:15:01.960 --> 02:15:04.880 Who's in the main event? Wordman? Who? 2599 02:15:06.319 --> 02:15:07.960 That's the difference between me and them? 2600 02:15:08.319 --> 02:15:10.880 Still said, has given you the night off? Doesn't in 2601 02:15:11.000 --> 02:15:16.119 any way justify you're almost ending the guy's career a career. 2602 02:15:17.199 --> 02:15:20.560 You called that a career. I call it a Traves team. 2603 02:15:21.039 --> 02:15:25.159 That they even let a joker in a wrestling ring. 2604 02:15:26.399 --> 02:15:30.239 It was a slap in the face. Seaan Michaels is 2605 02:15:30.399 --> 02:15:34.119 not my equal. He's never gonna be a world wrestling 2606 02:15:34.239 --> 02:15:36.079 Entertainment champion I am. 2607 02:15:37.640 --> 02:15:40.039 He was the one who got him my face. 2608 02:15:41.319 --> 02:15:43.760 He was the one who poked me in the chest. 2609 02:15:44.800 --> 02:15:46.960 He was the one who called me. 2610 02:15:47.880 --> 02:15:51.199 Boy, but said you jumped him when his back was turned. 2611 02:15:51.720 --> 02:15:55.920 His back was turned, Well, you kidding me? This business 2612 02:15:56.199 --> 02:16:00.479 isn't all about shaking hands, hugging necks and being friends. 2613 02:16:01.520 --> 02:16:04.840 If you're stupid enough to get in my face, put 2614 02:16:04.920 --> 02:16:08.119 your hands on me, and then turn your back on me, 2615 02:16:08.520 --> 02:16:12.399 then you're stupid enough to get beat up like Sean 2616 02:16:12.479 --> 02:16:13.159 beat up. 2617 02:16:14.560 --> 02:16:18.600 There are those who say your outlandish actions on Monday 2618 02:16:18.680 --> 02:16:23.760 Night Raw were attributed to one reason, and one reason only, jealousy. 2619 02:16:24.399 --> 02:16:25.279 What do you say to that? 2620 02:16:27.039 --> 02:16:29.640 You're right, it's jealousy. 2621 02:16:30.319 --> 02:16:35.319 Of me trigger the whole thing. It started off at 2622 02:16:35.360 --> 02:16:40.280 wrestlemany eleven, when Sean and Diesel were out there resting 2623 02:16:40.360 --> 02:16:45.959 their guts out and the people were chin what they 2624 02:16:46.079 --> 02:16:52.520 were chanting Sid. That's where the jealousy started right then. 2625 02:16:52.559 --> 02:16:59.200 And there is Diesel jealous of Sid, no isy jealous. 2626 02:16:59.600 --> 02:17:05.239 But he's also very sappy. One minute shown her worst enemies, 2627 02:17:05.559 --> 02:17:09.559 the next minute their best buddies. You know what, In 2628 02:17:09.680 --> 02:17:13.600 a way, I think it's kind of cute. Seems a 2629 02:17:13.719 --> 02:17:19.639 Diesel is the true hero these days. First shown then 2630 02:17:19.760 --> 02:17:24.879 Bam Bam, then Razor Ramon. You know why Diesel's been 2631 02:17:24.959 --> 02:17:31.200 doing those pathetic good deeds because he has sickness, and 2632 02:17:31.319 --> 02:17:34.280 that sickness is to hear the cheers of the people. 2633 02:17:35.799 --> 02:17:38.440 You know, it'd be too easy for me to get 2634 02:17:38.479 --> 02:17:42.959 in that ring with Diesel and kick him all over it. Now, 2635 02:17:43.079 --> 02:17:48.200 my plan is to mentally torture him. He knows all 2636 02:17:48.280 --> 02:17:51.920 about the power that I possess, that I know that 2637 02:17:52.079 --> 02:17:56.559 I'm always and he knows I'm always near. That scares 2638 02:17:56.639 --> 02:18:01.760 him to death, his worst enemy and his time and 2639 02:18:02.040 --> 02:18:05.959 fear he has to think about me for not just 2640 02:18:06.040 --> 02:18:10.559 a day, but for the rest of his life. I'm 2641 02:18:10.639 --> 02:18:14.520 gonna wear him down mentally to the point of making 2642 02:18:14.600 --> 02:18:15.120 him crazy. 2643 02:18:15.440 --> 02:18:18.120 Speaking off crazy, how do you feel about the fans 2644 02:18:18.239 --> 02:18:19.360 calling you psycho? 2645 02:18:20.280 --> 02:18:22.639 You know what bothers me a little bit because I 2646 02:18:22.760 --> 02:18:27.879 don't know why they're calling me psycho. Maybe it's because 2647 02:18:28.159 --> 02:18:29.200 of the split part. 2648 02:18:30.079 --> 02:18:31.000 Yeah, that will do it. 2649 02:18:36.479 --> 02:18:38.959 Maybe because of the split personality I have. 2650 02:18:40.200 --> 02:18:40.600 I don't know. 2651 02:18:41.959 --> 02:18:44.200 The bottom line is that people come up with their 2652 02:18:44.239 --> 02:18:47.280 own ideas before they do any research. 2653 02:18:48.719 --> 02:18:54.799 Yeah, okay, fucking stupid quote. 2654 02:18:56.600 --> 02:18:59.920 That's why I hate people like you and the media 2655 02:19:00.159 --> 02:19:00.639 so much. 2656 02:19:01.479 --> 02:19:03.959 You're not smart enough to see the truth. But you 2657 02:19:04.159 --> 02:19:09.520 know what, every little knock in this world is a boost. 2658 02:19:10.200 --> 02:19:11.000 It's all taken. 2659 02:19:15.319 --> 02:19:18.879 Well, if I'm not smart enough to see the truth, 2660 02:19:19.280 --> 02:19:22.200 then you tell me exactly what the real truth is. 2661 02:19:22.399 --> 02:19:26.440 Tell me about the real relationship between Sid and his 2662 02:19:26.559 --> 02:19:29.120 new boss, the million dollar man, Teddy Biassi. 2663 02:19:29.520 --> 02:19:31.280 You know, for being the enter of a magazine. I 2664 02:19:31.399 --> 02:19:36.040 can't believe how stupid you are, how many times you 2665 02:19:36.159 --> 02:19:41.079 have to tell you nobody is Sid's boss, nobody pay 2666 02:19:41.200 --> 02:19:41.959 Sid salary. 2667 02:19:42.079 --> 02:19:46.760 Nobody pays Sid salary. Well, that's a problem, isn't it, Joe. 2668 02:19:47.799 --> 02:19:51.479 Nobody's gonna tell Sid what to do or how to eat, 2669 02:19:51.799 --> 02:19:54.399 or how to work, or how to dress, or which 2670 02:19:54.520 --> 02:19:56.840 guys to wrestle or when to wrestle them. 2671 02:19:58.559 --> 02:19:59.959 Well, that's a whole bad Yeah. 2672 02:20:00.440 --> 02:20:03.799 Yeah, so you don't sound particularly employable as a pro wrestler. 2673 02:20:05.000 --> 02:20:07.399 I'm gonna do what Sid wants to do. 2674 02:20:07.719 --> 02:20:10.760 If you're your own man, as you claim, then why 2675 02:20:10.920 --> 02:20:13.760 did you join the million dollar corporation in the first place. 2676 02:20:14.399 --> 02:20:17.600 In the wild, we all have an instinct to survive. 2677 02:20:18.719 --> 02:20:21.319 When I was looking for a certain something from the outside. 2678 02:20:22.479 --> 02:20:26.200 I decide who I wanted to be with and why 2679 02:20:26.680 --> 02:20:30.280 I wanted to be with them. I'm not the alpha 2680 02:20:30.440 --> 02:20:33.799 wolf and a pack of wolves. But I can't always 2681 02:20:33.840 --> 02:20:37.879 do everything by myself because I'm always gonna be outnumbered, 2682 02:20:39.079 --> 02:20:41.680 just like what happened with Sid and Sean or Sean 2683 02:20:41.760 --> 02:20:44.959 and Diesel when they teamed up on me. But now 2684 02:20:45.360 --> 02:20:48.000 I have the best in the world backing me up. 2685 02:20:48.440 --> 02:20:54.600 It's a corporation. We're a pack. We run together. Nonetheless, 2686 02:20:54.719 --> 02:20:58.360 I'm still the alpha, and I'm always gonna eat first, 2687 02:21:01.680 --> 02:21:04.920 and I'm gonna was gonna eat first, be paid first, 2688 02:21:05.639 --> 02:21:07.719 be paid the most first. 2689 02:21:11.600 --> 02:21:15.479 I thought nobody paid your salary, be paid the most first. 2690 02:21:15.559 --> 02:21:18.200 This is just I have no doubt in my mind 2691 02:21:18.520 --> 02:21:21.719 that this isn't an exact direct transcription of what he said. 2692 02:21:21.959 --> 02:21:24.040 You're absolutely right. I mean, he's just letting them the 2693 02:21:24.159 --> 02:21:26.200 first time I've ever read one of these interviews that 2694 02:21:26.239 --> 02:21:31.319 actually I believe is the person the way. 2695 02:21:31.559 --> 02:21:34.520 And you know, you got to think of Russo making 2696 02:21:34.600 --> 02:21:37.479 mental notes as he goes about these quirks when he 2697 02:21:37.600 --> 02:21:40.799 writes for Sid later on in WCW, when he comes 2698 02:21:40.879 --> 02:21:45.040 back around, Oh, absolutely, have you made yourself the alpha, 2699 02:21:45.239 --> 02:21:47.040 or has the corporation labeled you that. 2700 02:21:48.200 --> 02:21:49.879 I don't want to say that these guys have a 2701 02:21:49.959 --> 02:21:53.239 fear of me, but they know me and they know 2702 02:21:53.399 --> 02:21:57.600 what I can do. They know that if they ever 2703 02:21:57.760 --> 02:22:01.280 decided to jump me, eventually the alpha will drag them 2704 02:22:01.319 --> 02:22:07.319 all down one by one. I'm the leader for a reason. 2705 02:22:08.079 --> 02:22:12.000 I'm the leader because I'm bigger, I'm meaner, I'm stronger. 2706 02:22:12.959 --> 02:22:15.799 The corporation knows that at what point do you become 2707 02:22:16.000 --> 02:22:20.079 satisfied in the World Wrestling Federation, satisfied. 2708 02:22:20.959 --> 02:22:25.440 When two things happen. Number one, when I am the 2709 02:22:25.559 --> 02:22:31.079 world's entertainment champion and number two, when I get the 2710 02:22:31.239 --> 02:22:38.479 proper respect I deserve. In times, I will rule the world. 2711 02:22:40.239 --> 02:22:42.920 Wow, what a glimpse into the psyche. 2712 02:22:43.040 --> 02:22:45.959 Huh Oh, that's a fucking that's amazing. 2713 02:22:47.159 --> 02:22:52.479 It's all there. I mean, his piccadillos, his fucking way 2714 02:22:52.559 --> 02:22:57.399 with words, his his fucking nonsense. It is truly remarkable 2715 02:22:57.479 --> 02:23:00.719 how how perfect a character he is for an article 2716 02:23:00.840 --> 02:23:04.079 like that. Yep, and again, Russo would write for SID 2717 02:23:04.200 --> 02:23:08.399 not only in WCW, but also during the earliest stages 2718 02:23:08.440 --> 02:23:11.000 of the Attitude era, where Russo would have some responsibility 2719 02:23:11.040 --> 02:23:13.319 for backstage promo scripting, not that a whole bunch of 2720 02:23:13.399 --> 02:23:16.120 guys you know, took scripts or anything, but they accepted 2721 02:23:16.200 --> 02:23:18.600 kind of his bullet points and framing. You can't help it, hit, 2722 02:23:18.840 --> 02:23:20.399 You can't help but think of the gears turning in 2723 02:23:20.440 --> 02:23:24.360 Russo's head and Money keeps talking about the corporation as well, right, seriously, 2724 02:23:24.760 --> 02:23:28.559 of course the Corporation would be a centerpiece stable theme 2725 02:23:29.479 --> 02:23:34.399 device in Russo's peak WWF writing. And yeah, the Corporation 2726 02:23:34.559 --> 02:23:38.719 was originally Teddybasse's stable of wrestlers. It was kind of 2727 02:23:38.760 --> 02:23:41.719 like the Heenan family, right a little bit. Yeah, I 2728 02:23:41.760 --> 02:23:44.040 mean it was like any It was like any of 2729 02:23:44.120 --> 02:23:47.879 the any stable. Yep, you know, it'd have the same thing, 2730 02:23:48.879 --> 02:23:53.120 same vibe. That's what the mentality was, both in front 2731 02:23:53.120 --> 02:23:55.440 of and behind the camera as it regards pairing up 2732 02:23:55.479 --> 02:23:58.399 Sid with the Corporation and really Ted Dibiassi as a 2733 02:23:58.440 --> 02:24:00.639 manager here in the w w F nineteen ninety five. 2734 02:24:01.120 --> 02:24:03.760 But you know, all told when it comes to developing 2735 02:24:03.959 --> 02:24:07.879 the and proposing and setting in stone the Sid character 2736 02:24:08.000 --> 02:24:12.840 that we just heard in that interview and what we've 2737 02:24:12.879 --> 02:24:15.559 been talking about this far, I think Cornett wraps it 2738 02:24:15.639 --> 02:24:16.159 up pretty well. 2739 02:24:16.520 --> 02:24:20.600 That's why Vince McMahon was so sold on the SID 2740 02:24:20.840 --> 02:24:25.000 multiple times, because he looked so good and Vince knew 2741 02:24:25.159 --> 02:24:29.000 he had just like Donald pleasants in Halloween if he 2742 02:24:29.040 --> 02:24:33.000 could just reach him, you know. But he found out 2743 02:24:33.079 --> 02:24:39.840 that those eyes were soulless. He couldn't keep him under control, 2744 02:24:40.239 --> 02:24:46.680 in from blowing up, from having issues whatever, to fully 2745 02:24:46.840 --> 02:24:51.079 monetize him. And that's the thing they threw from nineteen 2746 02:24:51.479 --> 02:24:57.639 eighty nine through nineteen ninety what eight or nine. 2747 02:24:57.520 --> 02:24:59.719 With w C A little bit after that, yeah, a 2748 02:24:59.719 --> 02:25:01.120 little are two thousand. 2749 02:25:01.239 --> 02:25:05.079 They threw money at him. He would he'd quit, leave, 2750 02:25:05.239 --> 02:25:09.680 go home, get the mutual split, whatever the fuck. All 2751 02:25:09.760 --> 02:25:15.159 the incidents get fired for the thing with Arn and 2752 02:25:15.440 --> 02:25:17.079 he'd sit at home for a while, and then the 2753 02:25:17.159 --> 02:25:19.520 other when the heat was off the other side, because 2754 02:25:19.559 --> 02:25:25.200 of there was something there, they would get him and 2755 02:25:25.360 --> 02:25:29.399 then some would happen again. So he could have been 2756 02:25:29.479 --> 02:25:33.040 much bigger and for a longer period of time, because 2757 02:25:33.040 --> 02:25:35.120 there were so many breaks in that period of time. 2758 02:25:35.360 --> 02:25:38.399 So we go forward now that SID is despite all 2759 02:25:38.440 --> 02:25:41.120 the warning signs and despite all the handholding necessary, and 2760 02:25:41.239 --> 02:25:44.360 despite the the need to align them with Teddy biasse 2761 02:25:45.319 --> 02:25:48.680 they go forward and Yeah, the first match that Sid 2762 02:25:48.799 --> 02:25:51.559 has back with WWF upon returning, you heard the February 2763 02:25:52.120 --> 02:25:55.200 Monday Night Ross segments there and the night after WrestleMania. 2764 02:25:55.399 --> 02:25:57.000 But the first time he actually has a match is 2765 02:25:57.079 --> 02:26:00.319 on April fourth, nineteen ninety five and Glenn falls in 2766 02:26:00.319 --> 02:26:02.520 New York where he matches up against the guy they 2767 02:26:02.600 --> 02:26:05.639 sent to Memphis to test him out kick the tires, 2768 02:26:05.719 --> 02:26:09.399 a bed the Undertaker, Wow the future WrestleMania thirteen main event, 2769 02:26:09.440 --> 02:26:11.159 which when the match happened, felt like the first time 2770 02:26:11.200 --> 02:26:12.440 the two had clashed, didn't it. 2771 02:26:15.680 --> 02:26:16.719 I don't even know that they did. 2772 02:26:17.319 --> 02:26:19.200 Yeah, it was kind of like, all right, Undertaker, Sid, 2773 02:26:19.319 --> 02:26:22.040 that's you know, say what you will for a WrestleMania 2774 02:26:22.040 --> 02:26:22.360 main event. 2775 02:26:22.399 --> 02:26:24.559 Oh you mean WrestleMania. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that felt like 2776 02:26:24.600 --> 02:26:26.239 the first time that it ever had. Yeah. 2777 02:26:26.399 --> 02:26:28.680 Yeah, they had never even really been in each other's orbit. 2778 02:26:28.799 --> 02:26:32.000 But come to find out, a big part of getting 2779 02:26:32.040 --> 02:26:34.680 Sid back with WWF was matches with the Undertaker and 2780 02:26:35.319 --> 02:26:37.479 being litmus tests on how ready he was to return. 2781 02:26:38.120 --> 02:26:40.399 But overall has mentioned, Sid viewed the ninety five return 2782 02:26:40.440 --> 02:26:44.719 as a whipping post situation. Basically, you know, being punished 2783 02:26:44.799 --> 02:26:48.760 or being demoted over and over again. He said on 2784 02:26:48.879 --> 02:26:51.799 a shooting interview with Vince in WCW. When I came 2785 02:26:51.840 --> 02:26:54.479 back and forth both times, we all know the story, 2786 02:26:54.520 --> 02:26:56.680 and me quitting Vince put me in a bind. When 2787 02:26:56.719 --> 02:26:58.000 I went back the next time, I was on the 2788 02:26:58.000 --> 02:26:59.879 whipping post. But this is what again, I credit my 2789 02:27:00.360 --> 02:27:03.239 to this, he says, you know what, I'll be on 2790 02:27:03.319 --> 02:27:04.959 this whipping post for a little bit, but I'm good 2791 02:27:05.040 --> 02:27:07.200 enough that they're going to have to use me one day, 2792 02:27:07.840 --> 02:27:10.799 you know, in a position beyond like cutting him down 2793 02:27:10.840 --> 02:27:14.360 to size. That's how he saw the run. So yeah, 2794 02:27:14.399 --> 02:27:15.959 I mean that's how I would look at it too, boss. 2795 02:27:16.000 --> 02:27:18.520 If I got to come in get involved in the 2796 02:27:18.559 --> 02:27:21.120 main event of WrestleMania eleven without having to do anything 2797 02:27:21.159 --> 02:27:24.280 physically cut a promo, that's the spotlight of the whole angle. 2798 02:27:25.000 --> 02:27:26.959 I would also get to lay out the top name 2799 02:27:27.000 --> 02:27:29.440 in the company the next night on Raw and turn 2800 02:27:29.520 --> 02:27:31.360 heel in the biggest angle of the year. Pretty much. 2801 02:27:31.680 --> 02:27:34.159 I would then get to headline two consecutive pay per 2802 02:27:34.239 --> 02:27:36.959 views for the WWF Championship in the main event, despite 2803 02:27:37.000 --> 02:27:41.120 there being no apparent appetite for it, and be compensated 2804 02:27:41.159 --> 02:27:43.680 to commensurate with that. Yeah, I would consider that the 2805 02:27:43.719 --> 02:27:44.399 whipping post. 2806 02:27:45.079 --> 02:27:46.520 I mean yeah, I mean, look, he doesn't get to 2807 02:27:46.520 --> 02:27:48.959 do anything at all, right, you know, and he's basically 2808 02:27:49.079 --> 02:27:52.239 just being told what a bitch he is and how 2809 02:27:52.360 --> 02:27:53.200 was he going to get fucked with? 2810 02:27:54.000 --> 02:27:55.879 And after a year of beating me down, he once said, 2811 02:27:56.280 --> 02:27:58.680 I believe to r video, they know I had actually 2812 02:27:58.760 --> 02:28:00.799 hurt my neck and I had to have surgery. So 2813 02:28:01.719 --> 02:28:04.079 we're coming to another one of those crossroads for Big Sid. 2814 02:28:04.360 --> 02:28:06.280 I mean, this is around the time they're programming him 2815 02:28:06.360 --> 02:28:09.840 literally against Henry Godwin towards the end of the year, 2816 02:28:10.280 --> 02:28:12.799 so they're really trying to see, you know, what his 2817 02:28:12.959 --> 02:28:15.120 tolerance level is. I have to say, it seems like 2818 02:28:15.159 --> 02:28:17.079 they're they're playing a bit of a game with the men. 2819 02:28:17.600 --> 02:28:20.280 We talked about the in your houses, we talked about WrestleMania. 2820 02:28:20.520 --> 02:28:22.399 Do you recall what role he was supposed to have 2821 02:28:22.440 --> 02:28:23.799 at SummerSlam nineteen ninety five. 2822 02:28:23.959 --> 02:28:26.000 He was supposed to face Shawn Michaels. 2823 02:28:26.879 --> 02:28:29.040 Was it not said in black and white in the 2824 02:28:29.079 --> 02:28:31.239 pages of WWF magazine that it was to be Sean 2825 02:28:31.360 --> 02:28:34.639 versus Sid? I feel like it was sure was. Yeah, yes, 2826 02:28:34.719 --> 02:28:37.440 it was, but as we know, what ends up being 2827 02:28:37.479 --> 02:28:41.840 the Shawn Michaels raising Ramone to ladder match. Yes, and 2828 02:28:42.239 --> 02:28:44.280 we'll get to some perspectives on why that was the 2829 02:28:44.399 --> 02:28:47.520 case a little later. But if I was Sid and 2830 02:28:47.639 --> 02:28:49.239 I had it gritted out for me that look, you're 2831 02:28:49.280 --> 02:28:51.920 gonna turn on Sewn, You're gonna work Diesel for the championship, 2832 02:28:51.959 --> 02:28:53.639 and then come SummerSlam you're gonna get to have the 2833 02:28:53.639 --> 02:28:55.440 blowoff match with Sean. 2834 02:28:56.639 --> 02:28:59.680 You know, it's funny too, because like I remember being 2835 02:28:59.760 --> 02:29:02.920 this pointed too, because I'm like, well, why isn't he 2836 02:29:03.000 --> 02:29:05.200 facing Sean? Like why is he facing Razor? I moan again, 2837 02:29:05.399 --> 02:29:09.159 I like, I I was very much into not necessarily 2838 02:29:09.719 --> 02:29:14.600 you know, great matches, but I really it was important 2839 02:29:14.639 --> 02:29:19.600 to me that storylines were resolved and the one that 2840 02:29:19.719 --> 02:29:21.639 needed to be resolved and the one that honestly was 2841 02:29:21.719 --> 02:29:25.479 like the the thing that was I was excited to 2842 02:29:25.520 --> 02:29:28.360 see was Sewn and Sid, Like I wanted to see 2843 02:29:28.399 --> 02:29:29.559 that play out and finish. 2844 02:29:30.239 --> 02:29:32.200 It was really stupid that after what Sid did to him, 2845 02:29:32.239 --> 02:29:35.040 that Sean Michaels came back and just chased the Intercontinental 2846 02:29:35.120 --> 02:29:37.239 title instead of went made a bee line for Sid 2847 02:29:37.280 --> 02:29:38.159 try to take a set off. 2848 02:29:38.399 --> 02:29:41.399 They didn't even really pay it off until Survivor series. 2849 02:29:42.399 --> 02:29:45.000 If you live in here, think of that, right, Seriously, 2850 02:29:45.440 --> 02:29:46.959 they had to go back to it, but it made 2851 02:29:47.000 --> 02:29:51.239 no sense that Sean wasn't going right after Sid. Yeah, 2852 02:29:51.840 --> 02:29:52.520 it was really sad. 2853 02:29:52.559 --> 02:29:52.680 It was. 2854 02:29:52.760 --> 02:29:54.079 It was a power play. It seemed like to me 2855 02:29:55.840 --> 02:29:58.040 because there's no other reason that all the promotional gears 2856 02:29:58.079 --> 02:29:59.959 are in motion for that match to happen other than 2857 02:30:00.000 --> 02:30:02.280 and Sean pulls a card and wants to work with 2858 02:30:02.360 --> 02:30:04.879 his buddy instead. Yeah, I wonder if that remark we 2859 02:30:05.000 --> 02:30:07.159 just read from the magazine which is August ninety five, 2860 02:30:08.000 --> 02:30:10.360 where Sid says Sean and Diesel can't draw crowds, and 2861 02:30:10.440 --> 02:30:13.680 I can. I wonder if that was the thing that 2862 02:30:13.760 --> 02:30:16.639 pissed them off or if it was Yeah, maybe Sid 2863 02:30:16.799 --> 02:30:18.920 maybe being pissed off knowing that they're taking him out 2864 02:30:18.920 --> 02:30:20.680 of the mix for as big time Summer Slam match 2865 02:30:20.760 --> 02:30:24.719 and trying to smack at him. Interesting. Yeah, Sean gets 2866 02:30:24.719 --> 02:30:26.760 involved in like the Jeff Jarrett program, the night Jeff 2867 02:30:26.799 --> 02:30:29.239 Jarrett leaves, he wins the Icy Strap in that terrific match, 2868 02:30:29.319 --> 02:30:32.040 and Sean comes back full fledged baby face with no 2869 02:30:32.200 --> 02:30:34.120 interest at all, and he's it's not like he's going 2870 02:30:34.159 --> 02:30:35.840 for the championship. He comes back and he's going for 2871 02:30:35.879 --> 02:30:38.719 the Intercontinental Belt right which to me is just like 2872 02:30:38.760 --> 02:30:40.799 a really cynical way to just come up with a 2873 02:30:40.840 --> 02:30:42.959 reason to do that the second Razor match because he 2874 02:30:42.959 --> 02:30:45.639 doesn't feel like doing the SID match which Sid versus 2875 02:30:45.719 --> 02:30:48.399 Sean for the ICY title at SummerSlam ninety five, that's 2876 02:30:49.600 --> 02:30:51.639 for the IC title. That just makes it bizarre to me. 2877 02:30:52.559 --> 02:30:55.600 I mean it is, it is definitely, don't get me wrong, 2878 02:30:55.799 --> 02:30:59.000 but still I'm like, that to me, is that's the 2879 02:30:59.120 --> 02:31:01.399 match right there, That's what I want to see. Yep. 2880 02:31:01.920 --> 02:31:18.760 Absolutely, it's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast 2881 02:31:18.840 --> 02:31:22.520 that knows the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. 2882 02:31:37.200 --> 02:31:41.120 He's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling Podcast with Jack and Carno 2883 02:31:41.520 --> 02:31:42.520 and JP Soro. 2884 02:31:42.959 --> 02:31:45.600 As far as why Diesel for the first comeback program 2885 02:31:45.719 --> 02:31:48.200 for SID, Pritchard said in his podcast, because you had 2886 02:31:48.200 --> 02:31:50.200 so much equity in SID and obviously Diesel and Sean, 2887 02:31:50.520 --> 02:31:52.760 and that whole scenario when we were in many respects 2888 02:31:53.000 --> 02:31:55.559 booking almost month to month at this point, because you 2889 02:31:55.680 --> 02:31:58.399 didn't we had a whole Summer planned, he says, to 2890 02:31:58.479 --> 02:32:01.360 get Sid, to get Sid and Diesel at SummerSlam for 2891 02:32:01.440 --> 02:32:04.000 the first time. So Prichard says, the original plan was 2892 02:32:04.040 --> 02:32:07.239 to finally have Sid and Diesel clash at SummerSlam. Now, 2893 02:32:08.159 --> 02:32:11.319 as we know, Diesel versus Mabel headlining SummerSlam ninety five 2894 02:32:11.360 --> 02:32:14.000 hardly seems like a plan a I have to say, 2895 02:32:14.239 --> 02:32:16.680 al f but they did know as far out as 2896 02:32:16.760 --> 02:32:18.799 King of the Ring in June where Mabel one that 2897 02:32:18.879 --> 02:32:20.559 torn it into qualify for the belt, that that was 2898 02:32:20.600 --> 02:32:23.319 the direction. So we have to figure it was between 2899 02:32:23.680 --> 02:32:25.680 post WrestleMania and King of the Ring, So that's just 2900 02:32:25.760 --> 02:32:27.680 like a two maybe a month and a half period 2901 02:32:27.719 --> 02:32:30.520 there where they could have switched this up. But again, 2902 02:32:30.559 --> 02:32:32.440 by the time we get closer to SummerSlam, it is 2903 02:32:32.479 --> 02:32:35.319 to be a Sid and Sean. But to hear Bruce 2904 02:32:35.840 --> 02:32:37.840 tell it, that was not to be the plan. From 2905 02:32:37.879 --> 02:32:39.600 the moment Sid turned on Sewan. It wasn't like you 2906 02:32:39.680 --> 02:32:42.360 do this and you guys will eventually face off at SummerSlam. 2907 02:32:42.440 --> 02:32:44.760 That apparently was the Nash plan. I don't know if 2908 02:32:44.760 --> 02:32:47.760 they wanted to get to Sid versus Sean before Sid 2909 02:32:47.920 --> 02:32:50.159 versus Nash and have Sid run over Sean if so, 2910 02:32:51.280 --> 02:32:53.280 it would make a lot of sense that Sean found 2911 02:32:53.319 --> 02:32:55.719 a way to get that turned around. Yeah, right at 2912 02:32:55.760 --> 02:32:59.639 the last minute, Prichard recalls, as they were talking about 2913 02:32:59.639 --> 02:33:01.760 the mate time frame, Now we're here in May and 2914 02:33:01.799 --> 02:33:03.600 we're doing it in your house. So it was rushed. 2915 02:33:04.479 --> 02:33:06.600 But I think there was a little bit of relief 2916 02:33:06.799 --> 02:33:08.440 that we did it at an in your house and 2917 02:33:08.520 --> 02:33:11.159 not at a summer slam on a bigger platform, because 2918 02:33:11.200 --> 02:33:14.440 they didn't gel. Their styles just clashed and it wasn't 2919 02:33:15.399 --> 02:33:17.920 We're trying to make Diesel that big babyface champion. He says, 2920 02:33:17.959 --> 02:33:19.799 they can slay all comers, and it didn't feel like 2921 02:33:19.840 --> 02:33:22.040 that against another big bastard that looks like he could 2922 02:33:22.040 --> 02:33:24.760 slay all comers. It was just a bad clash. I 2923 02:33:24.799 --> 02:33:27.479 guess that's kind of it. I mean, they got in 2924 02:33:27.520 --> 02:33:30.879 the ring together and it just didn't look like one 2925 02:33:31.000 --> 02:33:33.680 could make the other look vulnerable at any given point. 2926 02:33:34.040 --> 02:33:36.479 It's just like two titans just throwing power moves at 2927 02:33:36.479 --> 02:33:38.399 each other, one after the other in succession, and it 2928 02:33:38.520 --> 02:33:41.639 was just kind of it was kind of boring. It 2929 02:33:41.680 --> 02:33:44.120 didn't right, I mean, that's right, that's just kind of 2930 02:33:44.239 --> 02:33:44.760 what happened. 2931 02:33:44.799 --> 02:33:47.760 It just was not. It didn't end up being nearly 2932 02:33:47.799 --> 02:33:49.479 as exciting as you would hope. 2933 02:33:50.639 --> 02:33:52.120 Yeah, they never really seem to do anything in the 2934 02:33:52.200 --> 02:33:55.319 matches that are like, Okay, this is the design, this 2935 02:33:55.440 --> 02:33:57.319 is where I'm supposed to care, this is where I'm 2936 02:33:57.319 --> 02:33:59.239 supposed to lean in to want one guy to win 2937 02:33:59.319 --> 02:34:00.719 more than the other guy. It was just like, who's 2938 02:34:00.719 --> 02:34:02.760 going to power bomb the other first? Ye kind of 2939 02:34:02.840 --> 02:34:05.239 like the perverse spectacle of whether they could actually get 2940 02:34:05.280 --> 02:34:07.360 the other guy up without hurting themselves or each other. 2941 02:34:07.719 --> 02:34:09.559 And Nash did get hurt. He busted his elbow in 2942 02:34:09.639 --> 02:34:12.479 that match taking the power bomb, and remember he wanted 2943 02:34:12.520 --> 02:34:14.559 a King of the Ring and the horrible tag team 2944 02:34:14.639 --> 02:34:17.520 main event that year with that big ass brace around 2945 02:34:17.559 --> 02:34:20.319 his elbow because he got hurt taking a power bomb 2946 02:34:20.520 --> 02:34:23.920 from Sid. So it was all fucking disastrous, really mess, 2947 02:34:24.239 --> 02:34:28.879 just a mess. So yeah, Pretcher reiterates it eventually was 2948 02:34:28.959 --> 02:34:30.719 we were getting to Sid and Diesel, but we saw 2949 02:34:31.559 --> 02:34:33.799 getting to it with Diesel and Sean. What happened was 2950 02:34:33.799 --> 02:34:36.440 at WRESTLEMANI eleven. That's the infamous Vince coming into the car. 2951 02:34:36.840 --> 02:34:39.399 This is a story that Bruce is told many times 2952 02:34:39.920 --> 02:34:43.040 after WrestleMania. Heading into Wrestleman eleven, Vince coming into the 2953 02:34:43.079 --> 02:34:44.920 car with Pat and I and Shane and saying, God, 2954 02:34:45.000 --> 02:34:46.879 damn it. Am I the only one who sees that 2955 02:34:46.959 --> 02:34:49.879 we have a baby face on our hands? And Shaan's 2956 02:34:49.879 --> 02:34:51.440 getting cheered. Boss, you saw it and you heard it. 2957 02:34:51.600 --> 02:34:56.159 God, he's such a goof and we completely reh doesn't 2958 02:34:56.200 --> 02:35:01.040 understand what's going on. Oh God, what well? The only 2959 02:35:01.120 --> 02:35:03.520 one that sits here and wonders why. 2960 02:35:04.159 --> 02:35:06.120 Yeah, Vince, we all been hearing it. We're just waiting 2961 02:35:06.159 --> 02:35:07.959 for the opportunity for you to be able to say 2962 02:35:07.959 --> 02:35:09.040 it was your idea. Son. 2963 02:35:09.239 --> 02:35:13.440 I want to say that we have opportunities in our hands. 2964 02:35:14.639 --> 02:35:17.120 We have opportunities in our pants. 2965 02:35:18.399 --> 02:35:21.040 God damn, is Sean not a great babyface. 2966 02:35:20.760 --> 02:35:28.159 To execute possibility with transgression? Oh? 2967 02:35:28.440 --> 02:35:34.399 Interesting? He sees an opportunity to execute possibility and transgression 2968 02:35:34.959 --> 02:35:38.040 in the babyface turn of Sean. Michaels I do make 2969 02:35:38.120 --> 02:35:38.879 of that what you will. 2970 02:35:39.680 --> 02:35:41.840 I'm believe in things, and. 2971 02:35:41.959 --> 02:35:44.680 Bruce says, we completely we wrote the entire summer upon 2972 02:35:44.959 --> 02:35:48.879 you know, Vince saying that about seawns a babyface, or says, 2973 02:35:48.879 --> 02:35:50.520 at least we wrote the next three weeks in the 2974 02:35:50.559 --> 02:35:52.559 car as we went to Poughkeepsie to do television where 2975 02:35:52.559 --> 02:35:55.120 this was shot, and Vince just thought we were battling 2976 02:35:55.120 --> 02:35:57.559 an uphill battle trying to make Shawn a babyface, something 2977 02:35:57.600 --> 02:36:00.520 that Pat and I, Bruce says, has been preaching and 2978 02:36:00.600 --> 02:36:02.760 told never to bring up again. So apparently the story 2979 02:36:02.920 --> 02:36:06.000 was that Pat and Bruce definitely saw Sean as a 2980 02:36:06.079 --> 02:36:08.120 baby face in this time period before Vince would come 2981 02:36:08.159 --> 02:36:16.760 around to it. Nope, wrong, didn't. I'm playing three D 2982 02:36:16.920 --> 02:36:19.200 chess here, pal, you know I'm playing eight the things 2983 02:36:19.239 --> 02:36:21.120 you don't think I noticed. I'm just trying to make 2984 02:36:21.159 --> 02:36:22.239 sure you notice. 2985 02:36:22.879 --> 02:36:25.200 All right. I'm just trying to make sure things get 2986 02:36:25.319 --> 02:36:28.840 noticed by you right in a sensible fashion. 2987 02:36:29.040 --> 02:36:32.399 And things is a wide, wide aperture, Pal in terms 2988 02:36:32.440 --> 02:36:34.680 of what fits in there. So the easiest way to 2989 02:36:34.760 --> 02:36:37.120 do it, Bruce says, was to get him away from Sid. 2990 02:36:37.200 --> 02:36:39.440 And why not Let's make Sid, you know, the big 2991 02:36:39.559 --> 02:36:41.639 nasty heel, and have him kill Sean, and that will 2992 02:36:41.680 --> 02:36:44.360 make Sean a babyface. Diesel comes out for the rescue, 2993 02:36:44.399 --> 02:36:46.520 and you immediately make that switch to Sid versus Diesel. 2994 02:36:46.600 --> 02:36:49.200 But it was supposed to take longer, Bruce says it 2995 02:36:49.319 --> 02:36:51.719 was supposed to take longer to get there, but Vince 2996 02:36:51.760 --> 02:36:53.239 felt it was an uphill battle and it was going 2997 02:36:53.280 --> 02:36:55.840 to hurt Diesel the more that he worked with Shawn Michael, 2998 02:36:55.920 --> 02:36:57.959 so that's why it was rushed. So I think what 2999 02:36:58.040 --> 02:37:00.159 he's saying is sid power bombing Sean. It was not 3000 02:37:00.200 --> 02:37:03.239 supposed to be the night after WrestleMania, I see. I 3001 02:37:03.280 --> 02:37:04.719 was supposed to play it off for a longer time 3002 02:37:04.799 --> 02:37:07.799 period where Diesel and Shawn would continue to work together. 3003 02:37:08.399 --> 02:37:10.239 But as Shawn indicates in his book, the way the 3004 02:37:10.239 --> 02:37:13.280 WrestleMania match played out, Vince was much more minded towards 3005 02:37:13.360 --> 02:37:16.600 getting Sean out of the picture, thinking that the crowd 3006 02:37:17.120 --> 02:37:20.200 increasingly favoring him would only hurt Diesel. I'm not saying 3007 02:37:20.239 --> 02:37:23.399 that's wrong, but it's kind of asked backwards. Its kind 3008 02:37:23.440 --> 02:37:26.280 of like, yeah, exactly, events exactly, So let's make a 3009 02:37:26.360 --> 02:37:29.319 change here, right right. It'd be like if he took 3010 02:37:29.319 --> 02:37:33.120 Steve Austin off TV in nineteen ninety seven because fans 3011 02:37:33.159 --> 02:37:34.520 started cheering him over Brett Hart. 3012 02:37:34.680 --> 02:37:36.280 You know, they're cheering him a little bit more than 3013 02:37:36.360 --> 02:37:40.600 they're chearing the Patriot, and that's just not where we're 3014 02:37:40.600 --> 02:37:44.879 going right now. Power we're about patriotism right right, So 3015 02:37:45.399 --> 02:37:48.799 I just don't I don't appreciate where we're going and 3016 02:37:48.920 --> 02:37:49.719 why we're going there. 3017 02:37:50.399 --> 02:37:52.399 As for said, he's always haid in interviews that he'd 3018 02:37:52.399 --> 02:37:54.280 never had any issues with the Click. He told Hannibal, 3019 02:37:55.000 --> 02:37:57.680 not at all, but he does remember the matches with 3020 02:37:57.719 --> 02:38:00.840 Diesel being tough and not that good. He says that 3021 02:38:00.920 --> 02:38:03.000 Diesel just did not have a lot of great psychology. 3022 02:38:03.079 --> 02:38:04.760 I hate to say it, Sid said to Hannibal, but 3023 02:38:04.959 --> 02:38:07.879 he's somebody who's got two left feet Diesel. So that's 3024 02:38:09.159 --> 02:38:12.360 there you go. There just wasn't no, nothing was memorable 3025 02:38:12.399 --> 02:38:15.639 about him. Sid says, Oh Jesus, oh my god, what 3026 02:38:15.760 --> 02:38:17.879 if Nash heard he said that before he offered a 3027 02:38:19.000 --> 02:38:23.319 such flattering commentary. Upon his passing, he's asked did you 3028 02:38:23.360 --> 02:38:25.559 get along behind the scenes with him? And Sid says, oh, yeah, 3029 02:38:26.479 --> 02:38:29.200 when we first started, we wrote together, so it wasn't 3030 02:38:29.239 --> 02:38:30.840 that we didn't get along. It's just I don't know. 3031 02:38:30.920 --> 02:38:33.079 I don't know if anybody's ever said that they had 3032 02:38:33.120 --> 02:38:36.079 great matches with him. It's a fucking nog. I don't 3033 02:38:36.079 --> 02:38:38.040 if anybody's ever said they've had great matches with Kevin 3034 02:38:38.120 --> 02:38:42.799 Nash Well, I mean Sean and Brett did. Yeah, for sure, 3035 02:38:43.479 --> 02:38:45.319 But that's kind of where the list ends. Unless I'm 3036 02:38:45.319 --> 02:38:50.399 forgetting somebody. The Goldberg matches weren't bad for what they were. 3037 02:38:50.920 --> 02:38:53.239 I will give him that. Yeah, he rose to the 3038 02:38:53.239 --> 02:38:55.719 occasion on those that would have been when he was 3039 02:38:55.760 --> 02:38:59.000 in w CW, when he started. Okay, yeah, so they 3040 02:38:59.079 --> 02:39:01.840 go back to when were writing together. As for the corporation, 3041 02:39:02.000 --> 02:39:04.959 what does Teddy Byassi think being in this position of 3042 02:39:05.079 --> 02:39:07.879 managing Sid, a guy who is not supposed to need 3043 02:39:07.920 --> 02:39:10.200 a manager, right, I mean, he's talking his ass off. 3044 02:39:11.280 --> 02:39:14.239 Here's Teddy Byassi in his book. Vince eventually took me 3045 02:39:14.239 --> 02:39:16.680 out of the announcing booth. Remember ted was doing commentary too. 3046 02:39:17.799 --> 02:39:20.120 He told me that he wanted me exclusively as a manager. 3047 02:39:20.280 --> 02:39:22.319 Vince wanted me on the road full time to manage 3048 02:39:22.520 --> 02:39:25.879 Sid Vicious. I served as his advisor and mentor. I 3049 02:39:26.120 --> 02:39:28.280 was to groom Sid and teach him about the business 3050 02:39:28.319 --> 02:39:30.639 and how to work in the business. After all these years, 3051 02:39:30.879 --> 02:39:33.799 all the money this guy's made, we still need someone 3052 02:39:34.000 --> 02:39:37.000 to teach Sid how to be in the business. In 3053 02:39:37.120 --> 02:39:38.799 other words, how to countenance the fact. 3054 02:39:38.680 --> 02:39:40.319 That we really need we need to teach him out 3055 02:39:40.319 --> 02:39:44.920 to work WW style. You know this isn't your southern wrestling, right. 3056 02:39:46.479 --> 02:39:48.000 What we need to do, as far as I can tell, 3057 02:39:48.120 --> 02:39:50.440 we need to get him to accept the fact that 3058 02:39:51.479 --> 02:39:54.600 we can't necessarily afford to pay you consistently every time 3059 02:39:54.680 --> 02:39:55.760 and shut the fuck up about it. 3060 02:39:55.920 --> 02:39:57.879 That's what we want to say is I'm not going 3061 02:39:57.959 --> 02:40:01.840 to pay you to me you can wrestle. 3062 02:40:02.760 --> 02:40:05.200 See, we do things differently here, Palin. I know that 3063 02:40:05.319 --> 02:40:06.959 you were rocketed to the moon before you really got 3064 02:40:07.000 --> 02:40:08.600 a chance to learn the business. But let me tell you, 3065 02:40:09.959 --> 02:40:12.479 coming in here and expecting these guarantee three hundred and 3066 02:40:12.479 --> 02:40:14.559 fifty thousand dollars years, it's just not how the business works. 3067 02:40:14.600 --> 02:40:16.639 That's that's not the incentive structure that's going to make 3068 02:40:16.680 --> 02:40:20.040 you all you can be. In other words, I don't 3069 02:40:20.040 --> 02:40:20.479 have the money. 3070 02:40:20.799 --> 02:40:23.719 In other words, I don't have the compensation at the 3071 02:40:23.879 --> 02:40:26.600 ready to offer you the things that you're requiring. 3072 02:40:26.840 --> 02:40:31.479 I don't have compensation at the ready. You know it's money, 3073 02:40:31.799 --> 02:40:35.479 and I'm pretty sure that's why you said it. I 3074 02:40:35.639 --> 02:40:37.440 was to groom sit and teach them about the business 3075 02:40:37.440 --> 02:40:38.920 and how to work in the business. SID had come 3076 02:40:38.959 --> 02:40:41.120 into the word Wrestling Federation. After an incident that had 3077 02:40:41.120 --> 02:40:44.000 happened overseas World Championship Wrestling, he and Arn Anderson got 3078 02:40:44.040 --> 02:40:46.159 in an altercation at their hotel in England. Had led 3079 02:40:46.159 --> 02:40:47.799 to a fight ended up with Sid stabbing On in 3080 02:40:47.879 --> 02:40:50.600 the back with a pair of cuticle scissors. I never 3081 02:40:50.680 --> 02:40:53.520 heard I've never heard someone say they were cuticle scissors 3082 02:40:53.639 --> 02:40:56.559 like that as opposed to just scissors. Interesting. 3083 02:40:56.879 --> 02:41:03.479 Well, I believe that they The expert uh transition was 3084 02:41:03.559 --> 02:41:05.680 on the cuticle nature of the. 3085 02:41:06.280 --> 02:41:07.680 Did you see the expert transition? 3086 02:41:08.079 --> 02:41:11.120 I said things that most people don't say. 3087 02:41:15.920 --> 02:41:20.079 Arn, were they cuticle scissors? After all was said and down, 3088 02:41:20.159 --> 02:41:21.840 Arn ended up with more than twenty stab wounds. The 3089 02:41:21.879 --> 02:41:24.239 company fired Sid. When Vince told me this, I didn't 3090 02:41:24.239 --> 02:41:26.040 want to do it. The reason was because of my 3091 02:41:26.079 --> 02:41:28.520 friendship with Arn. I pulled Bruce Pritchrick to the side 3092 02:41:28.559 --> 02:41:29.959 and told him, so, Vince wants me to go on 3093 02:41:29.959 --> 02:41:32.360 the road and babysit this big and strong yet raw 3094 02:41:32.440 --> 02:41:35.000 guy who stabbed one of my best friends Arn in 3095 02:41:35.079 --> 02:41:42.000 the back. Bruce simply replied, yes, Tad, it's Vince. 3096 02:41:43.760 --> 02:41:44.120 I know you. 3097 02:41:45.959 --> 02:41:47.879 I know you and Arn are really tight, gone back 3098 02:41:47.920 --> 02:41:49.799 many years. I get a great deal respect for arn 3099 02:41:49.840 --> 02:41:51.559 as you know, but I want you to know that 3100 02:41:51.600 --> 02:41:53.360 it's hurt. As soon as I heard he got stabbed 3101 02:41:53.399 --> 02:41:55.559 almost to death by Sid, I thought, wouldn't it be 3102 02:41:56.079 --> 02:42:01.360 funny if I made you manage him? You know, that's 3103 02:42:01.399 --> 02:42:08.000 a man from be that's correct, rough with good start. 3104 02:42:09.360 --> 02:42:12.120 So I wanted to throw something by you to see 3105 02:42:12.120 --> 02:42:16.559 if you right at any thoughts and on on the 3106 02:42:16.920 --> 02:42:19.719 on the situation here. But I know you're, I know you're. 3107 02:42:19.799 --> 02:42:22.399 I really wanted to just call and see how you're 3108 02:42:22.479 --> 02:42:25.959 doing in regards to him. You know, you your I 3109 02:42:26.079 --> 02:42:31.760 know that your longtime acquaintances and h whatnot with Arne. 3110 02:42:32.200 --> 02:42:35.079 I talked to him last week and he's he's doing okay, Vince, 3111 02:42:35.159 --> 02:42:37.559 but that I'm really worried about him, and I'm actually 3112 02:42:37.959 --> 02:42:39.600 I'm furious that this happened to the guy. 3113 02:42:39.719 --> 02:42:42.840 I understand, and I can understand that you'd also be 3114 02:42:43.159 --> 02:42:48.079 furious with the man who did it. The absolutely the aggressor. Right. 3115 02:42:48.639 --> 02:42:50.280 Yeah, I was never a big fan of his, as 3116 02:42:50.319 --> 02:42:52.760 you know. You put me in the ring with him 3117 02:42:52.799 --> 02:42:56.559 for his very first match here, and I just I 3118 02:42:56.639 --> 02:42:58.079 did all I could with the guy, But I never 3119 02:42:58.200 --> 02:42:59.680 felt like he was someone that had his head right 3120 02:42:59.719 --> 02:43:00.840 about this business. 3121 02:43:00.639 --> 02:43:02.520 You know, And I want to say that that. 3122 02:43:03.120 --> 02:43:04.719 You know, I'm just really glad he's not here. 3123 02:43:04.840 --> 02:43:06.280 I know, I know, and you know what, I want 3124 02:43:06.319 --> 02:43:09.200 to say that as as the one who did that, 3125 02:43:09.319 --> 02:43:11.239 I want to say that I apologize. You know, we're 3126 02:43:11.280 --> 02:43:11.959 all human beings. 3127 02:43:12.000 --> 02:43:13.799 We all make Oh that's fine minutes. So that's water 3128 02:43:13.920 --> 02:43:15.399 under the bridge. That's not your problem. 3129 02:43:15.479 --> 02:43:17.959 I appreciate that. What I want to do, and actually 3130 02:43:18.000 --> 02:43:20.479 why i'm calling is because I want to actually rectify 3131 02:43:20.559 --> 02:43:21.280 that whole situation. 3132 02:43:22.200 --> 02:43:24.239 Oh that's kind of you, but I don't think that's necessary. 3133 02:43:24.840 --> 02:43:25.559 We've all moved on. 3134 02:43:26.079 --> 02:43:27.559 And I do believe that. 3135 02:43:28.959 --> 02:43:29.399 You know that. 3136 02:43:29.639 --> 02:43:32.440 I believe in karma. I believe in good things for people. 3137 02:43:32.520 --> 02:43:34.559 Me too, I do too. And what I wanted to 3138 02:43:34.600 --> 02:43:36.520 do and the Good Lord does too, the good Lord 3139 02:43:36.559 --> 02:43:36.879 does too. 3140 02:43:37.040 --> 02:43:38.639 Yes, I know the Good Lord. The Good Lord is 3141 02:43:38.760 --> 02:43:41.680 the Good Lord Alfred Hayes. And what I wanted to 3142 02:43:41.760 --> 02:43:44.920 do was just offer you the opportunity here, and I 3143 02:43:45.000 --> 02:43:49.280 think this could be an excellent chance to vindicate not 3144 02:43:49.440 --> 02:43:56.239 only myself but yourself from the the matters at hand. 3145 02:43:56.639 --> 02:43:56.719 And. 3146 02:43:58.719 --> 02:44:02.159 Vidicate myself. He offers ted A chands to vindicate himself, 3147 02:44:02.399 --> 02:44:06.760 Vince's self. It's like it's like, wait a minute, what 3148 02:44:07.520 --> 02:44:10.360 what is this from the matters at hand? 3149 02:44:14.040 --> 02:44:18.360 And well, see, you know the way that I feel 3150 02:44:18.440 --> 02:44:20.959 like the best, you know, the best way that someone 3151 02:44:21.040 --> 02:44:26.479 can move on from a situation, I think is through humor, right, 3152 02:44:26.799 --> 02:44:29.000 And in that regard, I want you to humor me, 3153 02:44:30.280 --> 02:44:36.520 because well there's no easy way to say this except 3154 02:44:36.680 --> 02:44:37.079 just say it. 3155 02:44:37.159 --> 02:44:39.479 And you fire me, are you, Vince? You're not going 3156 02:44:39.559 --> 02:44:39.959 to fire me. 3157 02:44:40.079 --> 02:44:40.959 I've listened. 3158 02:44:41.639 --> 02:44:44.079 My marriage is on the ropes. I can't stop cheating. 3159 02:44:44.639 --> 02:44:44.840 I know. 3160 02:44:45.159 --> 02:44:47.799 Listen, listen, neither can I. I'm with you, all right, 3161 02:44:48.600 --> 02:44:50.719 I get it. I can't even in. 3162 02:44:50.719 --> 02:44:53.440 Fact, fact, just last past week exactly, in fact, just 3163 02:44:53.559 --> 02:44:54.639 last night last. 3164 02:44:54.520 --> 02:44:59.639 Night, I had about eighteen in my room Whend was sleeping, 3165 02:45:00.399 --> 02:45:09.159 and I fucked eighteen women. We're talking hardcore, all right, hardcore? 3166 02:45:10.559 --> 02:45:17.239 Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, full on rectal penetration, 3167 02:45:17.319 --> 02:45:23.479 if you know what I mean. But what I want 3168 02:45:23.520 --> 02:45:30.040 to do is offer us redemption. And I think the 3169 02:45:30.200 --> 02:45:32.879 only way we can be redeemed is to go and 3170 02:45:33.120 --> 02:45:40.719 face our fears and our past eye to eye. And 3171 02:45:40.840 --> 02:45:45.559 I want you to face sid eyed eye. 3172 02:45:47.280 --> 02:45:49.559 Oh, come on, No, you can't be serious. 3173 02:45:50.799 --> 02:45:52.520 You're going to manage Sid and you're going to take 3174 02:45:52.600 --> 02:45:54.159 him on the road with you. What. 3175 02:45:55.680 --> 02:45:57.319 I don't want to be in the same zip code 3176 02:45:57.319 --> 02:46:01.559 as this guy. Why this is happening, because I can't imagine. 3177 02:46:01.920 --> 02:46:06.000 You need excuse me, you need it. You need to 3178 02:46:06.120 --> 02:46:11.079 understand that if you don't take Sid, I'm gonna stab you. 3179 02:46:14.200 --> 02:46:15.799 You think what happened to him is bad? Pal, You 3180 02:46:15.840 --> 02:46:17.920 think what happened to Arna Anderson, your good friend is 3181 02:46:18.319 --> 02:46:23.239 is is is bad? Wait till I get a knife 3182 02:46:23.280 --> 02:46:24.120 and take you down. 3183 02:46:27.799 --> 02:46:31.760 He didn't even do anything, and he is threatening him 3184 02:46:32.559 --> 02:46:37.000 in the most like unequivocal way. Within seconds, I. 3185 02:46:37.079 --> 02:46:40.159 Will I will take the blade from one end of 3186 02:46:40.239 --> 02:46:45.159 your torso to the other, and I will drink the 3187 02:46:45.280 --> 02:46:46.040 blood of God. 3188 02:46:47.920 --> 02:47:04.559 God just direct threats, like instant threats to get the 3189 02:47:04.639 --> 02:47:08.680 guy to do it. He wants it. And Ted, I 3190 02:47:08.760 --> 02:47:11.159 know I said I did it for you and because 3191 02:47:11.159 --> 02:47:13.600 it's the best for you, and I meant that wholeheartedly. 3192 02:47:14.079 --> 02:47:15.600 But I also want you to know Ted that I'm 3193 02:47:15.639 --> 02:47:19.959 putting you with Sid because I thought it would be funny. 3194 02:47:20.440 --> 02:47:24.840 Put you with Sid, because you know what, I laugh 3195 02:47:24.959 --> 02:47:27.799 at shit like that because I think that's funny. I 3196 02:47:28.000 --> 02:47:30.319 think it's funny watching. 3197 02:47:30.200 --> 02:47:35.159 You suffer, watching you have to manage the guy who 3198 02:47:35.200 --> 02:47:36.159 almost kills your friends. 3199 02:47:36.200 --> 02:47:39.760 I want you every fucking time that you're with Sid, 3200 02:47:40.200 --> 02:47:41.879 I want you to think that this is the guy 3201 02:47:41.959 --> 02:47:45.399 that stabbed my friend. Yes, and when you do that, 3202 02:47:46.600 --> 02:47:52.239 think of me laughing my ass off, exactly, laughing as 3203 02:47:52.399 --> 02:47:56.959 hard as I fucking can beget out you. You, my 3204 02:47:57.120 --> 02:47:59.879 friends are suffering. 3205 02:48:02.760 --> 02:48:04.520 And you know what's funniest about it, pal, It's not 3206 02:48:04.680 --> 02:48:07.079 so much that you're forced to be in this situation 3207 02:48:07.280 --> 02:48:10.079 with someone that you can't stand. What's the best part 3208 02:48:10.120 --> 02:48:12.000 of it all is I can force you to do it. 3209 02:48:13.079 --> 02:48:14.600 That I that, at the end of the day, I 3210 02:48:14.719 --> 02:48:18.239 have the power to make you befriend someone who almost 3211 02:48:18.440 --> 02:48:20.840 murdered a good, lifelong friend of yours. 3212 02:48:21.600 --> 02:48:22.079 I can. 3213 02:48:22.280 --> 02:48:25.280 I have the power to make you pretend that you 3214 02:48:25.399 --> 02:48:27.079 actually get along with him and he's not such a 3215 02:48:27.120 --> 02:48:29.920 bad you know how satisfying to. 3216 02:48:30.040 --> 02:48:33.239 Get you to do something that makes you feel like 3217 02:48:33.559 --> 02:48:39.159 absolute shit. Said, you know, mister DIBIASI no ted the 3218 02:48:39.239 --> 02:48:44.239 million dollar man. Huh you gotta shake hands day a seat, 3219 02:48:46.440 --> 02:48:48.000 not tad. You don't have anycissors on you do you 3220 02:48:51.879 --> 02:48:56.399 let's cut right, Pal, just cut to the chase. Why 3221 02:48:56.399 --> 02:48:58.000 don't we you know, let's just. 3222 02:48:59.280 --> 02:49:00.959 Let's let's take a few stabs at this thing and 3223 02:49:01.000 --> 02:49:02.120 see what we can't figure out. 3224 02:49:03.559 --> 02:49:05.280 I'd like to dive right into the wound. 3225 02:49:06.079 --> 02:49:08.280 Let's not leave too much on the cutting room floor. 3226 02:49:08.399 --> 02:49:14.399 Pal lapsed fan Wrestling podcast. 3227 02:49:34.799 --> 02:49:39.600 He's lapsed fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnacio and JP. 3228 02:49:39.799 --> 02:49:43.040 Soo, let's not take scissors and stab each other with them, 3229 02:49:43.399 --> 02:49:43.680 all right? 3230 02:49:44.959 --> 02:49:54.719 While we're doing metaphors now said, Uh, we're taking a 3231 02:49:54.879 --> 02:49:56.559 we're taking a leap of faith bringing you back. As 3232 02:49:56.600 --> 02:49:59.120 I think mister DIBIASI can attest, and we've spent some 3233 02:49:59.239 --> 02:50:02.799 time talking about and I don't think mister Debiassi or 3234 02:50:02.879 --> 02:50:07.440 myself can get really full comfort with your presence in 3235 02:50:07.520 --> 02:50:10.840 our locker room and in our organization once again, without 3236 02:50:10.959 --> 02:50:14.079 some you know, straightforward proof that you're able to contain 3237 02:50:15.079 --> 02:50:18.879 your darkest urges and then at times of temptation, that 3238 02:50:18.959 --> 02:50:21.479 you won't give in to things that can harm yourself 3239 02:50:21.520 --> 02:50:23.799 others in the company. So what I'm gonna do, sit 3240 02:50:23.840 --> 02:50:26.000 is I'm gonna slide this pair of scissors across the desk. 3241 02:50:29.040 --> 02:50:31.319 I just want to you know, I want so what 3242 02:50:31.440 --> 02:50:32.959 I want you to do is I'm gonna slide these 3243 02:50:33.000 --> 02:50:35.719 across your desk, All right, Ted, you sit the fuck down. 3244 02:50:36.959 --> 02:50:38.760 Ted trying to get out of there. Ted's trying to 3245 02:50:38.760 --> 02:50:39.879 get the fuck out of there. 3246 02:50:40.239 --> 02:50:41.600 I will fucking kill you right now. 3247 02:50:41.719 --> 02:50:44.120 You can't believe how dark this is getting said. 3248 02:50:44.239 --> 02:50:46.520 I want you to listen, Tad. 3249 02:50:46.559 --> 02:50:48.159 You see this. You see this button on my desk 3250 02:50:48.280 --> 02:50:50.120 when I press it, listen to the door lock. 3251 02:50:51.360 --> 02:50:56.000 And Ted, do you see that my other hand is 3252 02:50:56.079 --> 02:51:01.120 underneath the table. Yeah, you know why that is no exactly. 3253 02:51:02.840 --> 02:51:03.680 I got the matt lower. 3254 02:51:06.360 --> 02:51:11.719 That's gonna fucking make you scream like a bitch if 3255 02:51:11.760 --> 02:51:16.120 you even get up out of that chair. Sit down, 3256 02:51:17.079 --> 02:51:18.239 and shut the fuck up. 3257 02:51:19.319 --> 02:51:21.040 Back to the lesson at hand, said, what do I 3258 02:51:21.120 --> 02:51:21.559 want you to do? 3259 02:51:22.000 --> 02:51:25.360 I want you to look. I'm sliding these extremely sharp 3260 02:51:26.319 --> 02:51:30.040 metallic scissors across my table to you. 3261 02:51:30.280 --> 02:51:32.479 Look at them. Look at them, shine glimmer in fact 3262 02:51:32.559 --> 02:51:33.200 in the lamplight. 3263 02:51:33.399 --> 02:51:37.559 Grab them, hold them in the palm of your hand, 3264 02:51:39.239 --> 02:51:47.239 Squeeze your fist around the scissor. I want you to 3265 02:51:47.319 --> 02:51:51.959 lift it up in the air. All right. I want 3266 02:51:52.040 --> 02:51:58.239 you to then take the sharp end and hold it 3267 02:51:58.399 --> 02:52:03.319 in a stabbing fashion, all right, And I want you 3268 02:52:03.399 --> 02:52:10.479 to turn the point at Ted, turn it at Ted, 3269 02:52:11.879 --> 02:52:17.120 wind up, and the test is here. Will you stab 3270 02:52:17.239 --> 02:52:17.559 him or. 3271 02:52:28.040 --> 02:52:28.920 His looks at him? 3272 02:52:30.879 --> 02:52:32.840 If you feel the need to thrust, you do it. 3273 02:52:33.959 --> 02:52:37.799 But if you don't, don't do it and stay right, 3274 02:52:37.879 --> 02:52:39.399 and we'll be glad to have you back. We'll and 3275 02:52:39.520 --> 02:52:42.399 we'll then you know, I'm giving you the count I'm 3276 02:52:42.399 --> 02:52:44.440 giving you. I'll tell you what I'm gonna give you. 3277 02:52:44.600 --> 02:52:51.840 Fifteen minutes to hold those blades over your head, and 3278 02:52:52.040 --> 02:52:54.840 you in fifteen minutes, Ted, sit down. 3279 02:52:55.879 --> 02:52:56.879 I'm gonna leave the office. 3280 02:52:56.920 --> 02:52:58.479 I'm gonna leave the I'm gonna this is gonna give 3281 02:52:58.479 --> 02:53:01.399 you complete privacy. I don't want a word to be said. 3282 02:53:02.120 --> 02:53:06.959 He leaves Ted alone locked in an office with Sid 3283 02:53:07.200 --> 02:53:11.000 holding a huge pair of scissors lifted above his head. 3284 02:53:12.360 --> 02:53:17.079 Just to see if they can, you know, coexist stab him? 3285 02:53:22.079 --> 02:53:24.040 Said it needy to prove to me that you won't 3286 02:53:24.120 --> 02:53:25.040 stab somebody. 3287 02:53:25.040 --> 02:53:27.399 I need I need to believe, all right. I need 3288 02:53:27.479 --> 02:53:31.920 to believe that you will do the best possible, make 3289 02:53:31.959 --> 02:53:34.440 the best choice in a terrible situation. 3290 02:53:35.479 --> 02:53:39.440 It's amazing and perhaps apropos of that DEBIASI goes on 3291 02:53:39.520 --> 02:53:41.360 to write, I came to find out that Sid was 3292 02:53:41.399 --> 02:53:46.040 a decent guy. He wasn't a good technical wrestler, but 3293 02:53:46.200 --> 02:53:49.120 he had a chiseled body, conducted great interviews, and had 3294 02:53:49.159 --> 02:53:51.040 respect for the business. He was a legitimate six ' 3295 02:53:51.120 --> 02:53:52.200 nine and was very intimidating. 3296 02:53:53.280 --> 02:53:54.920 What's an illegitimate. 3297 02:53:56.520 --> 02:53:59.239 Lifts in your boobs or being announced to six ' 3298 02:53:59.319 --> 02:54:00.399 nine when you're not okay? 3299 02:54:00.559 --> 02:54:01.120 That makes sense. 3300 02:54:01.920 --> 02:54:03.719 He listened to me and worked very hard to improve 3301 02:54:03.799 --> 02:54:05.600 in the ring. He eventually became a two time World 3302 02:54:05.600 --> 02:54:08.719 Wresting Federation Everyweight champion. Well managing Sid, I traveled all 3303 02:54:08.719 --> 02:54:10.600 over the States and even a couple of times to Europe. 3304 02:54:10.760 --> 02:54:12.520 I really didn't want to be what is he fucking 3305 02:54:12.520 --> 02:54:16.639 George Bailey? Maybe a couple of times a year? 3306 02:54:17.799 --> 02:54:20.040 Oh, George, you want to take a grip of year 3307 02:54:20.120 --> 02:54:22.959 if you do a couple of business meetings here and 3308 02:54:23.040 --> 02:54:23.840 there around the. 3309 02:54:23.840 --> 02:54:25.959 Oh you stupid. If someone's boat, who's coming? 3310 02:54:26.440 --> 02:54:37.559 If you are a salary of five thousand dollars a year, God, 3311 02:54:37.680 --> 02:54:42.600 propose that to Sid. To see what happens? Potter negotiating 3312 02:54:42.639 --> 02:54:43.159 with Sid. 3313 02:54:43.760 --> 02:54:46.799 Yes, I, Oh, I don't mean any disrespect, but I'm 3314 02:54:46.879 --> 02:54:51.239 going to offer you a whopping salary of five thousand 3315 02:54:51.399 --> 02:54:55.120 dollars a year. Yes the fuck are you're talking about 3316 02:54:56.239 --> 02:54:58.479 five thousand dollars? Yeah? 3317 02:54:58.840 --> 02:54:59.840 Oh, I know, I know. 3318 02:55:00.799 --> 02:55:04.200 It's very It's it's more than you can possibly imagine. 3319 02:55:04.920 --> 02:55:07.000 You like, Oh, you like cigars, you want to travel 3320 02:55:07.079 --> 02:55:10.719 roma globe, dig business trips. I'm gonna fucking kill you. 3321 02:55:12.719 --> 02:55:17.159 He so mad. He offers Sid a whopping five thousand. 3322 02:55:17.319 --> 02:55:20.959 He offers vade or a whopper of five thousand, five 3323 02:55:21.040 --> 02:55:28.799 thousand whoppers. Have it your way, well, managing Sid. I 3324 02:55:28.879 --> 02:55:30.559 traveled all over the States and even a couple of 3325 02:55:30.639 --> 02:55:32.920 times to you. I really didn't want to be on 3326 02:55:33.000 --> 02:55:35.959 the road. It pulled me away from my family because 3327 02:55:36.000 --> 02:55:37.440 of my commitment to the company and the fact that 3328 02:55:37.520 --> 02:55:38.239 I needed the money. 3329 02:55:38.639 --> 02:55:39.479 There it is, I think I know. 3330 02:55:39.520 --> 02:55:41.319 Which of the two is the truth. There I sucked 3331 02:55:41.319 --> 02:55:42.479 it up and one on the road. I thought of 3332 02:55:42.520 --> 02:55:44.440 myself that everything would eventually work out in my days 3333 02:55:44.440 --> 02:55:45.680 in the road would soon decrease. 3334 02:55:45.799 --> 02:55:47.360 Well, not quite. 3335 02:55:47.520 --> 02:55:47.559 So. 3336 02:55:48.440 --> 02:55:50.920 They're working with Sid. They're trying to make him somebody 3337 02:55:51.000 --> 02:55:52.879 that fits the mold of what they want out of 3338 02:55:52.959 --> 02:55:55.559 someone in his position on the card, not building the 3339 02:55:55.600 --> 02:56:00.760 whole enterprise around him and his particular needs, his particular 3340 02:56:01.840 --> 02:56:06.799 fits of immaturity, one might say. And part of work. 3341 02:56:06.959 --> 02:56:09.440 Part of that work is getting him to be a 3342 02:56:09.520 --> 02:56:12.920 better extemporaneous speaker on promos, because while we have been 3343 02:56:12.920 --> 02:56:15.000 impressed with some of his work, it is kind of short, 3344 02:56:15.040 --> 02:56:15.879 burst in nature. 3345 02:56:16.000 --> 02:56:16.120 Right. 3346 02:56:16.440 --> 02:56:19.239 Yes, you can't really picture Sid, you know, telling much 3347 02:56:19.280 --> 02:56:21.399 of a story on a promo beyond just like you know, 3348 02:56:21.520 --> 02:56:26.239 issuing threats and saying it's simple. It's real simple simple, 3349 02:56:26.879 --> 02:56:32.079 that's ample simple. It's simple, And that's the problem, Sid. 3350 02:56:32.680 --> 02:56:36.360 It's always simple, and sometimes it calls from something more 3351 02:56:36.399 --> 02:56:38.479 than that. And I think Cornett, who would work with 3352 02:56:38.600 --> 02:56:41.600 talent producing interviews at the time, uh put it put 3353 02:56:41.639 --> 02:56:45.840 it well when discussing Sit on his podcast, Oh pardon me, 3354 02:56:46.000 --> 02:56:46.319 rong one. 3355 02:56:46.360 --> 02:56:46.639 Here we go. 3356 02:56:47.959 --> 02:56:50.520 He know he was a perfect promo except if he 3357 02:56:50.639 --> 02:56:53.719 had to go too long or explain One of the guys, 3358 02:56:54.680 --> 02:56:56.520 there's a lot of guys like this. If they have 3359 02:56:56.639 --> 02:56:59.559 to go too long or explain too much detail, it 3360 02:57:00.200 --> 02:57:03.000 robs them of their intensity because they get lost or 3361 02:57:03.079 --> 02:57:08.639 they just get hesitant, as I just was, and that's 3362 02:57:08.680 --> 02:57:12.200 why if you have the little manager to fill in 3363 02:57:12.399 --> 02:57:17.319 the details and do the fucking bridges amongst this monster 3364 02:57:18.559 --> 02:57:23.479 having short, violent verbal outbursts like he could do tremendous 3365 02:57:24.479 --> 02:57:29.799 that's your key there. But one time again, on one 3366 02:57:29.840 --> 02:57:32.000 of the promos, it didn't even matter, like you said, 3367 02:57:32.079 --> 02:57:37.000 whether it made sense, because it sounded so real that 3368 02:57:37.079 --> 02:57:39.360 he was saying it. He actually he did a promo 3369 02:57:39.440 --> 02:57:42.200 and I can't remember what it was, but some way 3370 02:57:42.280 --> 02:57:47.360 or another he told the people in some twisted syntax 3371 02:57:47.440 --> 02:57:53.120 that he was half as smart and half as as 3372 02:57:53.680 --> 02:57:55.239 big as his opponent or whatever. 3373 02:57:55.559 --> 02:57:58.040 In WW it cost Scott Hall to start laughing at 3374 02:57:58.120 --> 02:57:58.920 him in the middle of the ring. 3375 02:57:59.479 --> 02:58:03.680 Yes, but you know, but again it's fucking sid and 3376 02:58:03.840 --> 02:58:06.280 everybody thought he was goofy and out of his mind, 3377 02:58:07.079 --> 02:58:09.680 and because the party was goofy and out of his mind. 3378 02:58:11.479 --> 02:58:13.079 Yeah, I mean, he levered that to the hill. I 3379 02:58:13.079 --> 02:58:15.000 don't know if he knew he was leveraging that when 3380 02:58:15.040 --> 02:58:18.040 he tried to speak on promos, but it worked for 3381 02:58:18.120 --> 02:58:20.639 him when he didn't make any sense because his character 3382 02:58:20.920 --> 02:58:24.200 was somebody who was basically speaking in tongues because he 3383 02:58:24.319 --> 02:58:27.600 was so fucked up in the head and it really 3384 02:58:27.600 --> 02:58:29.799 played to his strength as time went. But the kind 3385 02:58:29.840 --> 02:58:31.719 of thing I think Cornett is talking about is well 3386 02:58:31.760 --> 02:58:35.440 epitomized in the Peak nineteen ninety five SYD clip. And 3387 02:58:35.559 --> 02:58:37.959 we know what this is. This is an in your 3388 02:58:38.000 --> 02:58:40.360 house pre show where he's in the locker room, Jim 3389 02:58:40.479 --> 02:58:44.399 Ross holding the mic and they're alive. They are live 3390 02:58:44.440 --> 02:58:46.159 on this pre show and Sid does not know this. 3391 02:58:46.399 --> 02:58:49.000 This the Sid that claims to not even know WrestleMania 3392 02:58:49.040 --> 02:58:50.360 eight was going to be a big deal until he 3393 02:58:50.399 --> 02:58:52.319 showed up at the building. Thought it was just kind 3394 02:58:52.319 --> 02:58:55.159 of another run of the mill night. Also didn't know 3395 02:58:55.319 --> 02:58:58.319 that the movie from Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho was playing when 3396 02:58:58.319 --> 02:59:02.159 he came to the rim. We all know that this 3397 02:59:02.360 --> 02:59:06.479 is what happens when Sid is in a in circumstances 3398 02:59:06.559 --> 02:59:07.440 beyond his control. 3399 02:59:08.200 --> 02:59:11.920 People say that your desire to control the WWF championship 3400 02:59:12.239 --> 02:59:15.600 is more lack an obsession. Are you obsessed with obtaining 3401 02:59:15.639 --> 02:59:16.760 the WWF title? 3402 02:59:17.600 --> 02:59:19.440 You might say that, Jim Ross, you might say that 3403 02:59:19.520 --> 02:59:21.559 I am obsessed with gaining the World Wrestling Centory. 3404 02:59:21.680 --> 02:59:21.799 Yes. 3405 02:59:21.959 --> 02:59:24.159 First, you see, by winning the title and bringing it 3406 02:59:24.239 --> 02:59:26.520 to the corporation, it gives me a tremendous amount of 3407 02:59:26.639 --> 02:59:29.239 leverage within the World Wrestling Federation. As you know, I 3408 02:59:29.360 --> 02:59:31.360 always like to have the upper hand. And as far 3409 02:59:31.399 --> 02:59:33.639 as me not being able to have bought the title, 3410 02:59:33.879 --> 02:59:35.840 when this man walks in that ring to night and 3411 02:59:36.000 --> 02:59:37.920 walks out with that belt, I will have in fact 3412 02:59:38.239 --> 02:59:40.120 bought the title because he works for me. 3413 02:59:40.600 --> 02:59:41.680 Sim I've got a question for you. 3414 02:59:41.799 --> 02:59:44.040 We all know that you can bring the heavy offense, 3415 02:59:44.079 --> 02:59:45.799 but there are a lot of skeptics that think that 3416 02:59:45.959 --> 02:59:48.399 perhaps you can't take it, that you can't take the 3417 02:59:48.440 --> 02:59:50.079 punishment that Lisa will give you tonight. 3418 02:59:50.319 --> 02:59:52.120 How do you address those skeptics. 3419 02:59:52.319 --> 02:59:54.959 Well, the skeptics and all the people have a little bit. 3420 02:59:55.280 --> 02:59:56.000 Let me do this again. 3421 02:59:56.200 --> 02:59:59.360 Oh it's live how sorry, anybody has any doubt we'll 3422 02:59:59.440 --> 03:00:01.040 get their for tonight? 3423 03:00:02.360 --> 03:00:03.879 Well there he here at a man a p words 3424 03:00:03.879 --> 03:00:05.159 Cicho sand back to Utah, A. 3425 03:00:05.239 --> 03:00:06.200 Few words as possible. 3426 03:00:06.239 --> 03:00:09.159 Please let me do this again. It's a live out. 3427 03:00:09.239 --> 03:00:12.120 It's so fucking like who told him? 3428 03:00:12.319 --> 03:00:12.360 Like? 3429 03:00:12.639 --> 03:00:16.760 Didn't No one told them that they were live Like hello, I. 3430 03:00:16.840 --> 03:00:18.399 Know I kind of think that that should be something 3431 03:00:18.479 --> 03:00:20.760 that is very apparent to the talent when they start 3432 03:00:20.799 --> 03:00:22.879 speaking into a microphone because here's the thing. Even if 3433 03:00:22.920 --> 03:00:25.280 you're at the show and they're interviewing you, it still 3434 03:00:25.319 --> 03:00:28.000 could be put in the can an air rider. You 3435 03:00:28.079 --> 03:00:30.639 don't necessarily know that the whole world is watching. Well, 3436 03:00:30.680 --> 03:00:33.719 why does it have to be live? Exactly right, especially 3437 03:00:33.719 --> 03:00:35.000 if they have the hang ups they say they do 3438 03:00:35.040 --> 03:00:38.200 about Sid speaking, But that's that's that's evidence right there 3439 03:00:38.239 --> 03:00:41.040 of what Cornett's talking about, and debase that he's standing 3440 03:00:41.120 --> 03:00:44.840 there to deliver, like, you know, the general message about 3441 03:00:44.840 --> 03:00:47.280 the WWF title H and why it's important to him 3442 03:00:47.280 --> 03:00:49.440 in the corporation and then Sid can't even get that 3443 03:00:49.559 --> 03:00:51.799 one line out right. And it wasn't even an outburst. 3444 03:00:51.840 --> 03:00:55.600 He wasn't even screaming. He's just trying to speak. Do 3445 03:00:55.639 --> 03:00:58.399 you remember him during Corporation? He didn't really scream that much. 3446 03:00:59.239 --> 03:01:02.200 He wasn't playing that killer. He was kind of just 3447 03:01:02.239 --> 03:01:02.920 like I know he was. 3448 03:01:02.959 --> 03:01:05.719 I mean, they definitely played up the you know, psycho 3449 03:01:05.920 --> 03:01:09.360 aspect of it. Yeah for sure, Yeah, that he was. 3450 03:01:09.600 --> 03:01:11.639 He was kind of just like saying cryptic things, but 3451 03:01:11.719 --> 03:01:15.479 he wasn't like threatening bodily harm every second he opened 3452 03:01:15.520 --> 03:01:19.120 his mouth. And yes, that was the that was what 3453 03:01:19.239 --> 03:01:20.680 Ted was doing. They were a great talker in his 3454 03:01:20.760 --> 03:01:24.079 own right, and somebody that apparently the wwfsaw is able 3455 03:01:24.120 --> 03:01:26.840 to make those bridges and get across the messages that 3456 03:01:26.959 --> 03:01:29.799 that Sid couldn't. I mean, I thought he was just fine, 3457 03:01:30.520 --> 03:01:32.200 and I thought we've heard some clips of him doing well. 3458 03:01:32.719 --> 03:01:34.879 But I think as far as like I'm coming for 3459 03:01:34.959 --> 03:01:37.040 the belt, it's going to be on July twenty first, 3460 03:01:37.159 --> 03:01:40.120 you know it's going to be in Montreal. Like Sid 3461 03:01:40.200 --> 03:01:43.280 wasn't going to hit those He just wasn't no exactly, 3462 03:01:43.799 --> 03:01:45.719 and you know his way and his way is effective, 3463 03:01:46.159 --> 03:01:48.840 but that's not always what the doctor ordered for sure 3464 03:01:49.000 --> 03:01:52.040 in any given moment. So here's Sean Michael's version of 3465 03:01:52.079 --> 03:01:54.159 what ended up happening at SummerSlam. As opposed to wrestling 3466 03:01:54.200 --> 03:01:56.719 Sid for the Intercontinental title. SummerSlam was now upon us, 3467 03:01:56.760 --> 03:01:58.879 and the creative team decided that Scott and I should 3468 03:01:58.879 --> 03:02:01.200 do another ladder match creative team, and there was a 3469 03:02:01.280 --> 03:02:06.280 creative team for sure, absolutely nineteen. Ask me how I 3470 03:02:06.319 --> 03:02:07.680 felt about it. I know we can put on a 3471 03:02:07.719 --> 03:02:09.159 good show, but it's for how I feel about it. 3472 03:02:09.239 --> 03:02:11.399 I don't like it. Sir Sean in his own books, 3473 03:02:11.440 --> 03:02:13.360 and he didn't like the idea of wrestling Scott Hall 3474 03:02:13.360 --> 03:02:15.200 at SummerSlam. Scott and I both believed it was a 3475 03:02:15.280 --> 03:02:17.360 no win situation. We had already done a ladder match 3476 03:02:17.399 --> 03:02:19.120 and we knew we couldn't top it. To me, it 3477 03:02:19.239 --> 03:02:21.000 was a I want to kick out strong on one 3478 03:02:21.040 --> 03:02:23.079 all over again. We didn't make a huge deal about 3479 03:02:23.079 --> 03:02:24.879 it though. It was one of those things if you 3480 03:02:24.959 --> 03:02:26.360 want it, I'll give it to you and I'll make 3481 03:02:26.399 --> 03:02:28.479 it the best I can. This is your show. I 3482 03:02:28.520 --> 03:02:30.959 don't like it, but it's up to you. That sounds 3483 03:02:31.000 --> 03:02:33.040 like a wrestler who knows who actually was his idea 3484 03:02:33.280 --> 03:02:39.319 exactly trying to uh and knows that it's politically sensitive 3485 03:02:39.399 --> 03:02:42.879 if if it's accepted that he pushed for that put 3486 03:02:42.920 --> 03:02:46.079 it in somebody else's mind and mouth as well. So 3487 03:02:46.520 --> 03:02:49.680 it's during the run against Diesel for the WIF Championship. 3488 03:02:49.719 --> 03:02:51.479 Of course, it's not just the in your house matches, 3489 03:02:51.559 --> 03:02:54.120 but they're working all around the horn at that time, 3490 03:02:54.879 --> 03:02:57.799 house shows and the like that Sid suffers yet another 3491 03:02:57.920 --> 03:03:02.360 injury that portends yet another abrupt departure from a major company. 3492 03:03:04.879 --> 03:03:07.000 That that's kind of another example. I think of how 3493 03:03:08.120 --> 03:03:10.280 how challenging it was for Vince and to some degree 3494 03:03:10.399 --> 03:03:13.440 WCW to fit Sid into the hole of like you're 3495 03:03:13.479 --> 03:03:15.840 gonna be a world champion. You know, you're gonna be 3496 03:03:15.840 --> 03:03:18.920 the next toe you get Hogan's spot, or we're putting 3497 03:03:18.959 --> 03:03:20.760 you over Vader and you're gonna have a run like 3498 03:03:20.879 --> 03:03:23.479 Sid is not a guy that's gonna win your belt 3499 03:03:24.159 --> 03:03:26.920 and then go on the house shows, you know what 3500 03:03:26.959 --> 03:03:30.879 I mean. It's just, yeah, it's not what people want 3501 03:03:30.959 --> 03:03:33.440 out of Sid. You put the strap on Andre in 3502 03:03:33.520 --> 03:03:37.639 like eighty eighty six and Andre versus every heel is 3503 03:03:37.719 --> 03:03:40.760 in every town across the United States, three hundred days 3504 03:03:40.760 --> 03:03:43.159 a year. It's just not what he's there for. And 3505 03:03:43.280 --> 03:03:46.799 for some reason, they just always especially Vince, was always 3506 03:03:46.840 --> 03:03:50.600 insistent on trying to fit Sid into that modus operandi, 3507 03:03:50.760 --> 03:03:52.680 trying to fit Sid into like somebody who's on the 3508 03:03:52.760 --> 03:03:55.520 road all the time, just like the rest of the 3509 03:03:55.600 --> 03:03:56.760 cast of characters as opposed. 3510 03:03:56.840 --> 03:04:00.319 Weird. It's so weird that he always felt the need 3511 03:04:00.479 --> 03:04:07.159 to like, I don't know, like just like I mean 3512 03:04:08.079 --> 03:04:10.000 to me, it's it's it's cheap to just say he 3513 03:04:10.479 --> 03:04:14.360 always like, you know, he had a had a hard 3514 03:04:14.440 --> 03:04:16.479 on for the for the big men, which I know 3515 03:04:16.600 --> 03:04:22.559 he did, but it's like Sid's different, like much different, 3516 03:04:22.799 --> 03:04:28.760 And it's very odd that you know, because again you 3517 03:04:28.840 --> 03:04:31.280 can't really you can't think of him that in that way. 3518 03:04:31.479 --> 03:04:35.159 He's just he's not a guy who carries anything. 3519 03:04:36.440 --> 03:04:36.879 He just not. 3520 03:04:37.399 --> 03:04:39.520 He doesn't have the depth as a performer as an 3521 03:04:39.600 --> 03:04:42.799 athlete to keep people engaged for months and months and 3522 03:04:42.959 --> 03:04:45.879 months in all the different towns and against all different 3523 03:04:45.879 --> 03:04:48.200 manner of opponents. He's somebody that like will give you 3524 03:04:48.280 --> 03:04:52.280 a quick burst of intensity and a quick thing of like, 3525 03:04:52.319 --> 03:04:54.799 holy shit, I never considered this guy against Sid, just 3526 03:04:54.840 --> 03:04:58.079 like you said about Lex Luger, but to see him 3527 03:04:58.079 --> 03:05:00.879 as part of like the traveling troop twelve months a year. 3528 03:05:01.559 --> 03:05:04.719 Eventually he's going to be lost in that shuffle, or 3529 03:05:04.719 --> 03:05:08.479 at least his appeal what makes him marketable, is going 3530 03:05:08.520 --> 03:05:11.040 to get really diluted in that structure. And yeah, pretty 3531 03:05:11.079 --> 03:05:12.799 soon you end up with Sid wrestling Henry Godwin. 3532 03:05:12.840 --> 03:05:13.040 You do. 3533 03:05:14.120 --> 03:05:16.479 Because he's just not somebody that is a dynamic enough 3534 03:05:16.520 --> 03:05:18.280 performer to stay on the top of the card for 3535 03:05:18.360 --> 03:05:21.399 a long time. He's got to disappear. He's got to 3536 03:05:21.440 --> 03:05:25.000 be somebody, like we've said, who emerges to challenge, like 3537 03:05:25.040 --> 03:05:27.520 the way they booked him in ww's disastrous as his 3538 03:05:27.680 --> 03:05:29.719 WW run was because the company was a disaster. The 3539 03:05:29.760 --> 03:05:31.719 way they worked him against Goldberg made a lot of sense. 3540 03:05:31.760 --> 03:05:34.319 You know, you got a Goldberg who's taking everyone out, 3541 03:05:34.639 --> 03:05:36.680 and in the mind starts going like, okay, who beyond 3542 03:05:36.719 --> 03:05:39.559 the WCW roster could challenge this guy, It's said, is 3543 03:05:39.600 --> 03:05:41.879 perfect to show up because he's seeing this guy run 3544 03:05:41.959 --> 03:05:43.879 a monk and he's here to prove that you know, 3545 03:05:43.920 --> 03:05:47.799 I'm the original destroyer. But after that's over, it's not like, Okay, 3546 03:05:47.879 --> 03:05:49.600 now Sid's going to move on to work with somebody else. 3547 03:05:49.639 --> 03:05:52.120 It's like, no, we we only perceived him as being 3548 03:05:52.200 --> 03:05:55.360 here to achieve one goal, one mission, and he's enough 3549 03:05:55.399 --> 03:05:57.040 of a mad man that when that mission is over, 3550 03:05:57.159 --> 03:05:59.879 be it Seawn Michaels bit whatever. He's coming back for Goldberg. 3551 03:06:00.879 --> 03:06:03.319 He's going to disappear again. You know, he's not just 3552 03:06:03.360 --> 03:06:04.920 going to like, Okay, now I'm in the rankings and 3553 03:06:04.959 --> 03:06:08.399 I'm going to compete for the championship. It's it's it's 3554 03:06:08.440 --> 03:06:10.959 a it's a page. He has a hard time turning. 3555 03:06:10.959 --> 03:06:13.440 And to your point about the Shawn Sid match at 3556 03:06:13.440 --> 03:06:16.120 Survivorshi's ninety six being the final blowoff of this early 3557 03:06:16.200 --> 03:06:18.200 nineteen ninety five angle we just played. That's the thing. 3558 03:06:18.840 --> 03:06:20.520 If somebody else was the champion at the time in 3559 03:06:20.559 --> 03:06:23.399 November nineteenety six, beside Shawn Michaels, Sid wouldn't have found 3560 03:06:23.479 --> 03:06:26.959 himself in the Minivent Challenge for the Strip. It wasn't 3561 03:06:27.000 --> 03:06:29.799 like his time to get a run with the strap 3562 03:06:29.840 --> 03:06:31.680 because he's been climbing the rankings and the fans have 3563 03:06:31.760 --> 03:06:33.760 been clamoring. No one was clamoring see Sid whin the 3564 03:06:33.799 --> 03:06:36.760 belt until they realized that it could be the Sid 3565 03:06:36.879 --> 03:06:41.559 Shawn match, and it could be a passing, it could 3566 03:06:41.559 --> 03:06:44.719 be a passing of the moment of this this genreun 3567 03:06:44.760 --> 03:06:46.079 that a lot of people had kind of gotten tired 3568 03:06:46.079 --> 03:06:48.479 of by the end of nineteen ninety six. So yeah, 3569 03:06:48.520 --> 03:06:52.280 that's that's a that's interesting. Nonetheless, he's out there on 3570 03:06:52.319 --> 03:06:54.600 the road working diesel every night, trying to make it work, 3571 03:06:55.239 --> 03:06:57.639 and they're having cage matches as well to try to 3572 03:06:57.639 --> 03:07:00.840 add some spice to things. And here's said on a 3573 03:07:00.879 --> 03:07:05.120 shoot interview describing what happened one night, well. 3574 03:07:05.120 --> 03:07:09.959 Actually where it happened, was it happened earlier months before? 3575 03:07:13.000 --> 03:07:16.879 It was an Indianapolis I think or Chicago was an Indianapolis. 3576 03:07:16.920 --> 03:07:19.000 It was in a cage match and Kevin hit me 3577 03:07:19.040 --> 03:07:22.559 from behind on the head man. I heard a pop, 3578 03:07:23.200 --> 03:07:25.799 and that's what I would completely numb all the way down. 3579 03:07:25.840 --> 03:07:30.079 I couldn't get off the map, and it's just, you know, 3580 03:07:30.559 --> 03:07:32.280 I didn't know what it was, and just kept getting 3581 03:07:32.360 --> 03:07:35.360 worse and worse and worse. And then I remember I 3582 03:07:35.440 --> 03:07:37.520 was in Albandy and me and Bob was working Bob 3583 03:07:37.559 --> 03:07:41.799 Polly were working out, and I couldn't curl my left 3584 03:07:41.840 --> 03:07:43.920 home would would come out, and that really scared me. 3585 03:07:44.040 --> 03:07:45.920 And then I tried something else and it wouldn't do up, 3586 03:07:46.559 --> 03:07:49.840 and I knew something was wrong, and so then I 3587 03:07:49.920 --> 03:07:51.879 went home and I went to one of the head 3588 03:07:52.079 --> 03:07:54.879 medical clinics in the country, and one of the top 3589 03:07:54.920 --> 03:07:55.600 guys look at it. 3590 03:07:56.239 --> 03:07:56.840 He said maybe. 3591 03:07:56.840 --> 03:07:59.040 He says, you can never rascal me, you know, and 3592 03:07:59.120 --> 03:08:01.399 anybody in the second doctor and the second Payton as 3593 03:08:01.399 --> 03:08:04.520 the maybe guess come on fust to Patslan. Then it's 3594 03:08:04.559 --> 03:08:10.280 a wrestle again. So I called fans are called j 3595 03:08:10.440 --> 03:08:12.360 J said, I'm true Kate wrestling. 3596 03:08:13.479 --> 03:08:18.159 Wow, what do you reckon? That was probably late ninety five, right, yeah, yeah, 3597 03:08:18.600 --> 03:08:20.040 because he shows up at Survivor Series. 3598 03:08:20.120 --> 03:08:22.840 Yeah, he's at Survivor Series. He does the uh, he 3599 03:08:23.000 --> 03:08:28.280 does the uh. That's the wild card tag match. Mm hmm. 3600 03:08:29.159 --> 03:08:30.319 Right, right, and what does he do there? 3601 03:08:30.440 --> 03:08:41.200 He teams with Sean Right. So right teams with Sean Right. 3602 03:08:41.239 --> 03:08:43.000 Because it was like it was like enemies on the 3603 03:08:43.040 --> 03:08:49.040 same side. It was like it was him, Sean, Ahmed 3604 03:08:49.159 --> 03:08:56.399 Johnson and Bulldog I think, m hm against I don't 3605 03:08:56.399 --> 03:08:59.760 remember who. I know one of them was. I know 3606 03:09:00.040 --> 03:09:04.000 Scott Hall was on the other side. Here hold on, 3607 03:09:06.600 --> 03:09:11.680 Seawn Michaels, I'm gonna go. Yeah, and then Yokozuna, Owen Hart, 3608 03:09:12.040 --> 03:09:15.200 Razor Ramon and Dean Douglas on the other side. 3609 03:09:17.159 --> 03:09:19.159 And that's the last pay per view appearance of this 3610 03:09:19.280 --> 03:09:19.920 run that he fix. 3611 03:09:20.399 --> 03:09:29.360 Sure, I don't think he was at No, he's not 3612 03:09:29.520 --> 03:09:33.559 at well, No, he's at in your house. He does 3613 03:09:33.600 --> 03:09:38.120 in your house. It's time, it's time, it's in your house. 3614 03:09:38.200 --> 03:09:40.040 It's whatever it is. 3615 03:09:42.959 --> 03:09:45.520 Seasons, beatings, seasons, beatings, seasons, beatings. 3616 03:09:45.600 --> 03:09:48.799 Yes, in the opening tag match, Razor and Marty versus 3617 03:09:48.879 --> 03:09:51.479 the one two three kids in Psycho Sid and then 3618 03:09:51.559 --> 03:09:53.079 he's then it's going and I know he's on the 3619 03:09:53.159 --> 03:09:56.079 Royal Rumble that's going places. 3620 03:09:56.799 --> 03:10:12.760 The Last fand wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows 3621 03:10:12.840 --> 03:10:30.879 the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. He's 3622 03:10:30.959 --> 03:10:36.000 the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno JP SOO. 3623 03:10:36.360 --> 03:10:37.799 The reason I ask all that is because I'm not 3624 03:10:37.959 --> 03:10:42.079 sure I mean this match he's talking about where he 3625 03:10:42.120 --> 03:10:43.719 gets popped in the back of the head by diesel. 3626 03:10:44.000 --> 03:10:46.559 If it's in Indianapolis, he's got the wrong city, because 3627 03:10:46.879 --> 03:10:49.879 I see on history of WW three shows in Indianapolis 3628 03:10:49.879 --> 03:10:51.959 and nine ninety five, and on none of them does 3629 03:10:52.200 --> 03:10:58.559 Diesel work Sid. I see Sid working through December of 3630 03:10:58.639 --> 03:11:02.079 that year with it You with Jeannetti and a Razor 3631 03:11:02.479 --> 03:11:08.559 and Company. But I don't see him working diesel anywhere 3632 03:11:08.600 --> 03:11:11.440 near the tail end. So this career ending injury that 3633 03:11:11.479 --> 03:11:14.479 apparently suffers during the course of this diesel match does 3634 03:11:14.520 --> 03:11:16.879 still allow him to work for months and months and 3635 03:11:16.959 --> 03:11:20.040 months on the House show. On the House House Show circuit, 3636 03:11:20.079 --> 03:11:22.319 he kind of couches it as something that like he 3637 03:11:23.120 --> 03:11:24.920 that happened to him, but he doesn't get it looked 3638 03:11:24.920 --> 03:11:27.719 at until much later when it when it gets aggravated, 3639 03:11:28.120 --> 03:11:33.159 or probably more accurately, when he gets aggravated. He hasn't 3640 03:11:33.159 --> 03:11:36.000 looked at a little more closely, perhaps, but yeah, this 3641 03:11:36.040 --> 03:11:39.440 apparently happens against Diesel on a house show. And I'm 3642 03:11:39.479 --> 03:11:42.399 trying to tall go back to when the last time 3643 03:11:43.680 --> 03:11:45.319 these two would have met in a house show, and 3644 03:11:45.399 --> 03:11:47.520 I'm all the way back in October, and he's still 3645 03:11:47.639 --> 03:11:53.200 not wrestling h He's still not wrestling Diesel anymore. Sid 3646 03:11:53.319 --> 03:11:57.719 and Razors as far back as what is this October? 3647 03:11:58.600 --> 03:12:01.399 The Henry Godwin programs to show up here a little bit. 3648 03:12:01.600 --> 03:12:03.520 Bam Bam. He wrestled a lot in ninety five. He 3649 03:12:03.559 --> 03:12:06.639 had great respect for Bam Bam Bigelow. Interestingly, when he 3650 03:12:06.719 --> 03:12:07.959 was asked who some of the best guys that I 3651 03:12:08.159 --> 03:12:09.600 worked with were, he always said Bam Bam. 3652 03:12:09.719 --> 03:12:09.879 Yeah. 3653 03:12:10.639 --> 03:12:13.520 Yeah, he just thought Bam Bam was. It was really 3654 03:12:13.600 --> 03:12:16.520 terrific in the ring, working Razor a lot. We're now 3655 03:12:16.559 --> 03:12:21.440 in September, still not working. So this is Razor beats 3656 03:12:21.479 --> 03:12:25.520 Sean at WrestleMania, right, Razor beat does Sewn win the 3657 03:12:25.559 --> 03:12:28.799 second match at Summers win Sean win the second ladder match? 3658 03:12:28.959 --> 03:12:31.959 Yeah he does. Okay, So Razor then comes back and 3659 03:12:32.000 --> 03:12:35.079 works Sid, probably because Shawn was supposed to work SID, 3660 03:12:35.159 --> 03:12:40.360 but because Sean wins Uh Sean Versid in September in Quebec, 3661 03:12:41.239 --> 03:12:44.959 heres Sean Versid in September in Montreal as Intercontinental Champs. 3662 03:12:44.959 --> 03:12:46.600 So they did have a run on the house show 3663 03:12:46.639 --> 03:12:49.360 circut together after summer Slanmwich, I don't think I really 3664 03:12:49.440 --> 03:12:53.280 knew that interesting Vega. He's working Savio Vega. That's got 3665 03:12:53.319 --> 03:12:56.760 to piss him off. He's working Brett. See, I don't 3666 03:12:56.799 --> 03:12:57.799 see him working Diesel. 3667 03:12:58.520 --> 03:13:03.079 I mean after after July ninety five, why would he? 3668 03:13:05.200 --> 03:13:07.280 Well, sometimes you know, just because it's a house show, 3669 03:13:08.239 --> 03:13:10.200 because the pay per view main events get like kind 3670 03:13:10.239 --> 03:13:12.319 of recycled for much longer on the house shows than 3671 03:13:12.360 --> 03:13:15.399 they are active issues on TV, would be my guest. 3672 03:13:15.440 --> 03:13:19.360 But he got bumped down to Razor much earlier than 3673 03:13:19.399 --> 03:13:24.559 I remember. Diesel, and Michael's beating irs subbing for Sin 3674 03:13:24.639 --> 03:13:27.799 and Tatanka. We're almost there. A lot of subbing for 3675 03:13:27.879 --> 03:13:30.000 SID in July. So maybe maybe he got her around 3676 03:13:30.040 --> 03:13:35.079 there and took some took some matches off. I guess 3677 03:13:35.159 --> 03:13:39.920 that would be okay. Steel Cage, Louisville, July twenty fourth, 3678 03:13:40.079 --> 03:13:45.319 nineteen ninety five, forty attendance Diesel pins sid with DiBiase 3679 03:13:45.399 --> 03:13:49.840 in a steel cage. I'm gonna say it's that one Louisville, 3680 03:13:49.959 --> 03:13:53.239 not Indianapolis, coming off the second in your house, which 3681 03:13:53.280 --> 03:13:58.280 had been in Nashville the night before. And then they rematched. 3682 03:13:58.639 --> 03:13:58.840 Yep. 3683 03:14:00.040 --> 03:14:03.079 So here's that pop in his neck. And eventually you 3684 03:14:03.159 --> 03:14:06.879 know he's as he said. You know he's in the gym. 3685 03:14:07.040 --> 03:14:10.520 He's lifting weights with Bob Holly and notices he can't 3686 03:14:11.360 --> 03:14:16.520 can't lift the weight like he usually does, and Bob Holly, 3687 03:14:17.959 --> 03:14:27.200 what about it? Bob. Right in the middle of it 3688 03:14:27.239 --> 03:14:30.440 all was Sean. He was the ringleader. He dictated everything 3689 03:14:30.479 --> 03:14:33.479 that was going on. He'd go out partying every night, drinking, 3690 03:14:33.639 --> 03:14:35.920 taking drugs, getting in fights. He'd show up the next 3691 03:14:36.000 --> 03:14:38.319 day hungover as hell, but still work like crazy. He 3692 03:14:38.440 --> 03:14:40.399 never screwed anything up. Whatever mind said he was in, 3693 03:14:40.520 --> 03:14:41.840 he still went out there and put on the best 3694 03:14:41.879 --> 03:14:43.879 match of the night. He was a machine. Not a 3695 03:14:43.920 --> 03:14:46.159 great ambassador for the company though, and not a great 3696 03:14:46.200 --> 03:14:49.120 influence backstage. The clique just kept on fucking with people 3697 03:14:49.319 --> 03:14:51.559 and wanting to work only with each other, hugging all 3698 03:14:51.600 --> 03:14:53.600 the money. Anybody who looked like he could get over 3699 03:14:53.680 --> 03:14:55.799 and make some money was put in his place. The 3700 03:14:55.879 --> 03:14:59.600 prime example of that was Sid Beauty. Kevin and Sean 3701 03:14:59.639 --> 03:15:02.200 didn't like him. Sid is misunderstood. He's very humorous in 3702 03:15:02.239 --> 03:15:04.239 a sarcastic way, and people take it wrong. He was 3703 03:15:04.239 --> 03:15:05.280 always very good to me. 3704 03:15:06.440 --> 03:15:09.479 That makes him look like an idiot right in the 3705 03:15:09.479 --> 03:15:12.159 way that makes us laugh out of him, exactly like Bob. 3706 03:15:13.799 --> 03:15:15.799 When we traveled together. He knew I wasn't making a lot, 3707 03:15:15.879 --> 03:15:17.680 so he paid for our rental car, the hotel, a 3708 03:15:17.719 --> 03:15:19.719 lot of my meals. I wouldn't have made it without him. 3709 03:15:19.840 --> 03:15:21.520 I owe him a lot. I think I helped him 3710 03:15:21.520 --> 03:15:23.719 out a lot too by keeping him insane. Sid wasn't 3711 03:15:23.760 --> 03:15:25.319 a good worker, but he cut a great promo and 3712 03:15:25.399 --> 03:15:27.159 he had a great look. He was over huged, so 3713 03:15:27.239 --> 03:15:28.920 of course Vince was going to use him a draw. 3714 03:15:29.159 --> 03:15:30.959 I guess. Kevin and Sean didn't like the thought of 3715 03:15:31.040 --> 03:15:33.040 someone else getting a piece of the action, so they 3716 03:15:33.079 --> 03:15:36.120 stepped in. Nash especially felt threatened by him because they 3717 03:15:36.159 --> 03:15:38.120 were both big men, but Sid was over and Nash 3718 03:15:38.280 --> 03:15:40.799 just hadn't worked out as champion. They butted heads a 3719 03:15:40.879 --> 03:15:43.159 lot when they were going over matches. Sid was set 3720 03:15:43.239 --> 03:15:45.399 in his ways and wasn't about to back down to anybody. 3721 03:15:45.559 --> 03:15:47.799 He wouldn't let upper management toward the other boys, push 3722 03:15:47.879 --> 03:15:50.239 him around or abuse his character. After the click push 3723 03:15:50.280 --> 03:15:52.319 Sid out of the main event picture, they kept sticking 3724 03:15:52.360 --> 03:15:54.319 it to him. I guess to prove a point or something. 3725 03:15:54.600 --> 03:15:56.719 In January next ninety six, they pushed it too far. 3726 03:15:57.040 --> 03:15:59.000 He and I traveled to the arena together. Sid came 3727 03:15:59.079 --> 03:16:00.719 up to me. A while after we'd arrived and said, 3728 03:16:00.719 --> 03:16:03.120 how do you want to beat me? You're fucking with me, right, 3729 03:16:03.239 --> 03:16:06.200 I replied no. He said, we're wrestling tonight and they 3730 03:16:06.239 --> 03:16:08.239 want you over. I asked him if he was mad 3731 03:16:08.319 --> 03:16:10.520 at me. Fuck no, he said, it's them, They're fucking 3732 03:16:10.559 --> 03:16:14.760 with me. Fuck this place. I'm done after tonight. I 3733 03:16:14.920 --> 03:16:17.719 wasn't offered. I wasn't offended that he was mad at 3734 03:16:17.760 --> 03:16:19.719 having to lose to me. It was an insult to him. 3735 03:16:20.000 --> 03:16:22.159 Here you have me, who loses to everyone all the time, 3736 03:16:22.440 --> 03:16:24.360 and there you have Sid, this big monster, and you 3737 03:16:24.399 --> 03:16:26.840 had to put me over clean. I was very uncomfortable. 3738 03:16:27.000 --> 03:16:29.959 He was pitching an absolute fit backstage and I was 3739 03:16:30.040 --> 03:16:31.840 caught in the middle of it. We did the match 3740 03:16:31.840 --> 03:16:33.799 and it was fine. I won with a crossbody off 3741 03:16:33.840 --> 03:16:35.600 the top or something like that. The whole time we 3742 03:16:35.680 --> 03:16:37.360 were out there, though. I felt so bad for him. 3743 03:16:37.479 --> 03:16:39.920 It wasn't right what Kevin and Sean were doing to him. 3744 03:16:40.079 --> 03:16:42.159 But what could I do. I did what I was told, 3745 03:16:42.280 --> 03:16:45.440 or I found another job. It was as simple as that. Afterwards, 3746 03:16:45.559 --> 03:16:48.840 Sid came backstage and was selling that he got injured. 3747 03:16:49.399 --> 03:16:55.239 He said he hurt his neck. He was yes, he 3748 03:16:55.399 --> 03:17:02.079 was lying about that, since since we had been traveling together, 3749 03:17:02.159 --> 03:17:04.040 I knew the truth. He just didn't want to deal 3750 03:17:04.120 --> 03:17:06.840 with all the politics anymore, so he left. Long before 3751 03:17:07.079 --> 03:17:12.440 rustle Mania that year. Sid was gone so much of 3752 03:17:12.479 --> 03:17:17.840 that neck injury poutraw Man. Does I'm here to say 3753 03:17:17.920 --> 03:17:19.079 I believe Bob Holly. 3754 03:17:19.680 --> 03:17:19.879 Yeah. 3755 03:17:20.719 --> 03:17:23.319 I almost always believe Bob everybody. 3756 03:17:23.440 --> 03:17:27.319 I I agree with Bob Holly on this one. 3757 03:17:29.520 --> 03:17:35.559 Do you think Sid was playing up the symptoms because 3758 03:17:35.600 --> 03:17:38.159 he was so sick of being Yeah, I mean losing 3759 03:17:38.200 --> 03:17:40.600 to Bob Holly with all due respect, but you know, 3760 03:17:40.680 --> 03:17:42.959 Holly ended up fitting into that Bruno position where it's 3761 03:17:43.040 --> 03:17:46.200 like Sid will make very good friends with you if 3762 03:17:46.319 --> 03:17:49.440 you can be someone that can get him around the 3763 03:17:49.520 --> 03:17:54.159 towns and be his shoulder to not so much cry on, 3764 03:17:54.399 --> 03:17:56.239 but be someone to be a sounding board for his 3765 03:17:56.319 --> 03:17:59.879 bitch vests. I mean, just think of the way like 3766 03:18:00.079 --> 03:18:03.239 he he ordered around Bruno there at the end of 3767 03:18:03.280 --> 03:18:07.200 that first WWF frunt. It's like a gopher times twelve, 3768 03:18:07.319 --> 03:18:10.120 like note you're quitting to we're going to the airport, 3769 03:18:10.239 --> 03:18:12.559 you're leaving. This is the end of the road for you. 3770 03:18:13.600 --> 03:18:16.920 And Bob became somebody else that Sid kind of went 3771 03:18:16.959 --> 03:18:19.920 around with, and yeah, you know, showed some some kindness 3772 03:18:19.959 --> 03:18:23.559 to not unlike you know, Harlem Heat, but it was 3773 03:18:23.680 --> 03:18:26.239 kind of a it was kind of a loose alliance 3774 03:18:26.280 --> 03:18:29.120 and a necessary I think probably like a necessary friendship 3775 03:18:29.159 --> 03:18:31.680 for the road, A relationship of convenience, is really what 3776 03:18:31.719 --> 03:18:35.159 I'm trying to say. But even though Sid has been 3777 03:18:35.239 --> 03:18:37.319 cut loose here from the World Wrestling Federation at the 3778 03:18:37.360 --> 03:18:39.879 end of nineteen ninety five into the beginning of nineteen 3779 03:18:39.920 --> 03:18:44.000 ninety six, it doesn't as to hear Sid put it okay, 3780 03:18:44.159 --> 03:18:47.319 that doesn't necessarily mean the checks stop flowing, Boss. This 3781 03:18:48.040 --> 03:18:50.200 is one of the bigger doozies you'll hear from Sid 3782 03:18:50.959 --> 03:18:53.000 as we describe his life in times. Just give me 3783 03:18:53.040 --> 03:18:55.879 a moment here and we'll we'll soon be telling you 3784 03:18:56.000 --> 03:19:00.440 from a Sean Muoney interview how he managed to somehow 3785 03:19:00.520 --> 03:19:02.559 keep the checks flowing without even showing up. 3786 03:19:03.680 --> 03:19:04.040 That's it. 3787 03:19:04.680 --> 03:19:06.719 Well, no, this this is what I'm saying. Sean, You're 3788 03:19:06.719 --> 03:19:11.559 not understanding. And WWF you were you rely everything on 3789 03:19:11.639 --> 03:19:15.399 how Showgate. But even then, Sean, when you were gone, 3790 03:19:16.319 --> 03:19:19.440 WWS could not pay the boys. How the boys got 3791 03:19:19.479 --> 03:19:21.520 paid were they was going the road to take a 3792 03:19:21.639 --> 03:19:24.040 draw and then they take that money home and put 3793 03:19:24.079 --> 03:19:25.799 it in their bank accounts where they could get back 3794 03:19:25.879 --> 03:19:29.079 on the road the next tour. I never knew it. 3795 03:19:29.280 --> 03:19:30.959 I mean you you might not get a check for 3796 03:19:30.959 --> 03:19:34.000 a three, four or five weeks at WWS at the time. 3797 03:19:34.360 --> 03:19:37.360 So when that happened, I told JJ Dillon, I said, 3798 03:19:37.440 --> 03:19:40.719 this is the deal, and they knew that I was serious. 3799 03:19:41.079 --> 03:19:42.799 I said, if I don't get at least one thousand 3800 03:19:42.879 --> 03:19:45.239 dollars a week, I'm not coming back on the road. 3801 03:19:46.040 --> 03:19:48.280 So they did that. So then when I took that 3802 03:19:48.399 --> 03:19:51.639 time off of my next thing, you know, Payroad forgot 3803 03:19:52.239 --> 03:19:55.280 someone didn't tell Payrod to start paying me for a year. 3804 03:19:55.360 --> 03:19:57.200 This is me a thousand dollars a week. Now I've 3805 03:19:57.239 --> 03:20:01.040 got a job, you know, making about same. So I 3806 03:20:01.159 --> 03:20:04.399 was living a really good lifestyle. So I'm sitting there 3807 03:20:04.399 --> 03:20:07.200 at me and my wife's go to this it's called 3808 03:20:07.280 --> 03:20:11.239 Bloomfest in Greenville, Mississippi, where it's all farmers and stuff 3809 03:20:11.280 --> 03:20:13.680 like that. And that's again here it is. It's great 3810 03:20:13.719 --> 03:20:15.479 for me because I was a farmer one time, said 3811 03:20:15.520 --> 03:20:18.559 I'm going back to my childhood stuff. So all of 3812 03:20:18.600 --> 03:20:22.920 a sudden, I get home that Saturday and the housekeeper says, man, 3813 03:20:23.000 --> 03:20:26.120 some kind of invincive. Man's called at least fifty times today. 3814 03:20:26.440 --> 03:20:29.440 Oh my god, I'm thinking he's. 3815 03:20:30.639 --> 03:20:31.799 He wants his running back. 3816 03:20:32.559 --> 03:20:36.120 I really thought that, right, So I said, whatever it is, 3817 03:20:36.319 --> 03:20:40.600 don't answer the phone. So this is before colorad D Right, 3818 03:20:41.040 --> 03:20:43.239 So I'm talking to somebody in the phone beeps and 3819 03:20:43.280 --> 03:20:45.319 I'm thinking, you know, I don't know what I was 3820 03:20:45.360 --> 03:20:47.760 fucking thinking. So I hit it in his fence. He 3821 03:20:47.799 --> 03:20:52.000 goes said, oh shit, yeah, Advance, how's it going, buddy? 3822 03:20:52.280 --> 03:20:56.520 He goes, well, listen, look, I've got a problem. I 3823 03:20:56.559 --> 03:20:58.280 had to fillow the warror again and I need someone 3824 03:20:58.319 --> 03:21:00.440 to take his place. And I think the first show 3825 03:21:00.600 --> 03:21:08.120 was Detroit or something, and Boston was Baltimore. He said, 3826 03:21:08.120 --> 03:21:10.079 I got somebody take the place. I said, this. I 3827 03:21:10.120 --> 03:21:12.479 hadn't been on TD for a year. Tinki, think of 3828 03:21:12.600 --> 03:21:15.879 someone else. He goes, no, sit, I need star power. 3829 03:21:15.959 --> 03:21:18.559 There I'm thinking, well, I was on the whipping post 3830 03:21:18.600 --> 03:21:22.479 before that. You know, surely got somebody has more star 3831 03:21:22.639 --> 03:21:24.920 power than me. He goes, no, I need you. And 3832 03:21:25.040 --> 03:21:27.360 literally what I had to do is grab my stuff. 3833 03:21:28.120 --> 03:21:31.079 They picked me up at the airport and I got 3834 03:21:31.200 --> 03:21:34.520 dressed on the way to the arena. Okay, I'll think 3835 03:21:34.600 --> 03:21:36.040 he'll say, this is it. I want to hear any 3836 03:21:36.079 --> 03:21:38.239 more serious. I said, if I don't get at least 3837 03:21:38.239 --> 03:21:40.799 a thousand dollars a week, I'm not coming back on 3838 03:21:40.879 --> 03:21:43.879 the road. So they did that. So then when I 3839 03:21:43.959 --> 03:21:46.440 took that time off of my neck thing, you know, 3840 03:21:46.719 --> 03:21:50.079 payroad forgot someone didn't tell Pyro to start paying me. 3841 03:21:50.600 --> 03:21:52.520 So for a year, this is me a thousand dollars 3842 03:21:52.520 --> 03:21:55.280 a week. Now I've got a job, you know, making 3843 03:21:55.600 --> 03:21:58.559 about the same. So I was living a really good lifestyle. 3844 03:22:00.040 --> 03:22:04.360 So he's just getting my money. He jumped way ahead 3845 03:22:04.360 --> 03:22:06.639 to the warrior thing and then it restarted kind of state. 3846 03:22:08.639 --> 03:22:14.200 It's very confusing, but okay, all right, he's getting He 3847 03:22:14.280 --> 03:22:17.719 says he had a thousand dollars a week they forgot. 3848 03:22:18.399 --> 03:22:22.200 He said that they basically agreed to pay him guaranteed. 3849 03:22:23.040 --> 03:22:24.520 You know, he's saying there, like I'm not going to 3850 03:22:24.559 --> 03:22:26.319 come back unless I actually can know how much I 3851 03:22:26.360 --> 03:22:29.040 get my bank account, not this bullshit of like I 3852 03:22:29.120 --> 03:22:31.719 get the draw on the road and so I can 3853 03:22:31.799 --> 03:22:34.840 kind of cobble together a regular income by you know, 3854 03:22:34.959 --> 03:22:37.200 going up to the agent at the house show and 3855 03:22:37.520 --> 03:22:39.680 you know, putting my hands together. So yes, sir, can 3856 03:22:39.719 --> 03:22:42.600 I please have my money in advance instead of when 3857 03:22:42.600 --> 03:22:45.239 you pay me quarterly or whatever the cadence was. So 3858 03:22:45.440 --> 03:22:47.559 to him, it's sort of like a regular check he's getting, 3859 03:22:47.559 --> 03:22:48.920 and it sounds like it's a kind of a special 3860 03:22:48.959 --> 03:22:51.600 deal he worked out with. Of course, he mentioned JJ Dillon, 3861 03:22:51.639 --> 03:22:53.719 who before Jim Ross was head of talent relations there. 3862 03:22:54.200 --> 03:22:56.239 And so the way he's telling it is that they, 3863 03:22:56.360 --> 03:22:58.319 even though he stopped going to the shows and their 3864 03:22:58.360 --> 03:23:00.520 four pros contract, should not be getting paid because you 3865 03:23:00.559 --> 03:23:03.120 get paid on the house. They keep sending him those 3866 03:23:03.120 --> 03:23:05.760 one thousand dollars checks because he had this this special 3867 03:23:05.840 --> 03:23:11.760 dispensation that they apparently didn't know to stop. So who 3868 03:23:11.840 --> 03:23:13.799 knows he's getting. He's getting all kinds of money he's 3869 03:23:13.799 --> 03:23:16.239 not saying a word about it, despite is he referenced there? 3870 03:23:16.319 --> 03:23:17.920 Moving on, and we'll talk about what he moved on 3871 03:23:18.000 --> 03:23:20.879 to in just a second, to a different job after 3872 03:23:21.159 --> 03:23:24.159 stepping away due to this career ending neck injury that 3873 03:23:25.280 --> 03:23:27.520 he continued to wrestle on and was more than ready 3874 03:23:27.600 --> 03:23:31.000 to come back for the next summer. So this is 3875 03:23:31.280 --> 03:23:35.000 this is what it means to be SID. So what 3876 03:23:35.079 --> 03:23:35.399 does he do? 3877 03:23:36.920 --> 03:23:37.399 What does he do? 3878 03:23:38.520 --> 03:23:38.559 What? 3879 03:23:39.399 --> 03:23:41.040 It's time for the next chapter. I mean, you've got 3880 03:23:41.079 --> 03:23:47.239 two doctors, boss telling you you should never wrestle again. Okay, no, No, 3881 03:23:47.360 --> 03:23:51.159 that would be in nineteen ninety nine. Now this would 3882 03:23:51.239 --> 03:23:58.360 be custom Chemisine, custom chemicine. 3883 03:23:58.399 --> 03:23:58.440 What. 3884 03:24:01.639 --> 03:24:04.520 He's a farm boy. He knows what it takes to 3885 03:24:04.639 --> 03:24:10.680 keep crops protected and preserved. He's got the Mississippi Alabama Corridor, 3886 03:24:10.879 --> 03:24:15.760 the Arkansas Corridor unlock. Sid leaves the WWF in nineteen 3887 03:24:15.799 --> 03:24:18.680 ninety five on the aforementioned neck problems and goes to 3888 03:24:18.799 --> 03:24:22.440 work as a salesperson for a company that sells shit 3889 03:24:22.520 --> 03:24:26.319 you put on plants so that i'd spoil. He is 3890 03:24:26.360 --> 03:24:29.159 an ag rep AGG being short for Agriculture rep out 3891 03:24:29.200 --> 03:24:33.479 of Fresno, California. The company was called Custom Chemicides, and 3892 03:24:33.639 --> 03:24:35.440 he was the rep for the whole state of Mississippi 3893 03:24:35.479 --> 03:24:38.200 and Alabama making good money. To hear him tell it, 3894 03:24:38.520 --> 03:24:40.079 he had to take some classes. He went out to 3895 03:24:40.079 --> 03:24:43.559 California to take those classes and got into the whole business. 3896 03:24:44.079 --> 03:24:46.040 And he had a background because he farmed a long 3897 03:24:46.120 --> 03:24:48.399 time before he ever got into a professional wrestling, so 3898 03:24:48.520 --> 03:24:51.120 he had some knowledge to work off of. And he 3899 03:24:51.200 --> 03:24:54.159 gets into the chemical treating business and he got, as 3900 03:24:54.200 --> 03:24:56.120 he put it, a real job doing that for what 3901 03:24:56.440 --> 03:24:59.920 six seven eight months? And if you want to know 3902 03:25:00.000 --> 03:25:03.280 about Custom Chemisicides, boss as, I'm sure the Solar system does. 3903 03:25:03.959 --> 03:25:06.760 What is this company that Sid goes to work for 3904 03:25:07.000 --> 03:25:11.040 in between WWF runs when he's pretending that his life 3905 03:25:11.120 --> 03:25:15.719 is in a series of going back to wrestlings. Let's 3906 03:25:15.760 --> 03:25:19.040 read a quick letter to almond growers that was published 3907 03:25:19.040 --> 03:25:21.799 in the California newspaper right around the time that Sid 3908 03:25:21.879 --> 03:25:25.239 would have been knocking on their door for a job interview. 3909 03:25:25.319 --> 03:25:28.399 This is authored by Don Kemer, who's listed as the 3910 03:25:28.440 --> 03:25:31.440 president of the firm Custom Chemicides. And this is just 3911 03:25:31.520 --> 03:25:35.159 a little example of the public facing material. And we'll 3912 03:25:35.200 --> 03:25:37.159 have more for you that Custom Chemicides was putting. 3913 03:25:37.200 --> 03:25:39.440 The radio and TV ads can go a long way 3914 03:25:39.600 --> 03:25:41.639 toward making the public aware of a product. But if 3915 03:25:41.680 --> 03:25:45.559 you are like I am, the experience of a friend 3916 03:25:45.600 --> 03:25:47.840 or neighbor is important and it will usually make a 3917 03:25:47.920 --> 03:25:51.159 difference to me. For nearly ten years now, I have 3918 03:25:51.239 --> 03:25:55.680 been applying Beeline to our almond orchards during bloom. I'm 3919 03:25:55.760 --> 03:25:59.000 convinced this has helped maintain the bees in the target 3920 03:25:59.040 --> 03:26:01.440 area for a longer period, and it has contributed to 3921 03:26:01.600 --> 03:26:06.600 our consistently good heels. Tell us at our office if 3922 03:26:06.600 --> 03:26:13.399 you'd like to know more about bee Line, B Line. 3923 03:26:13.239 --> 03:26:19.239 B Line, Well sid is making a beeline for a 3924 03:26:20.719 --> 03:26:25.239 new industry, a new specialty. As far as I could tell, 3925 03:26:25.479 --> 03:26:29.040 the big innovation that Custom Chemicides around this time in 3926 03:26:29.040 --> 03:26:32.000 the mid nineties was bringing to market and was probably 3927 03:26:32.079 --> 03:26:36.120 on a hiring spree to propagate, was a product they created, 3928 03:26:36.239 --> 03:26:39.719 not called Beeline, but called frost Guard. And what frost 3929 03:26:39.760 --> 03:26:43.719 Guard would do is fight the frost that comes in 3930 03:26:43.840 --> 03:26:46.639 the colder months that can destroy crops, keep the frost 3931 03:26:46.680 --> 03:26:49.760 at bay so that you can much greater a model product. 3932 03:26:51.559 --> 03:26:55.479 Here's an article that appeared featuring Jeff Kemmer from Custom 3933 03:26:55.520 --> 03:27:00.200 chemicide to the guy who who hired Sid ba real 3934 03:27:00.319 --> 03:27:04.479 ice nucleation inhibitors and activate the ice nucleus associated with 3935 03:27:04.680 --> 03:27:10.719 ice nucleation active bacteria without necessarily killing bacterial cells, necessarily 3936 03:27:10.799 --> 03:27:14.719 killing them, sometimes killing them. This process is like putting 3937 03:27:14.719 --> 03:27:17.280 the bad bacteria in a state of suspended animation so 3938 03:27:17.360 --> 03:27:20.920 they do not perform the ice formation function. Kemera's firm 3939 03:27:21.000 --> 03:27:24.680 markets frost Guard, a frost inhibitor mentioned in the third category, 3940 03:27:24.920 --> 03:27:28.440 under the name custom Chemicides. The product was developed locally 3941 03:27:28.520 --> 03:27:31.479 by chemist Evor Burden, who sold Custom Chemicides and the 3942 03:27:31.559 --> 03:27:34.520 chemical to Kimmer in nineteen eighty three. They expect to 3943 03:27:34.520 --> 03:27:36.680 get their patent from the US government within the week. 3944 03:27:37.040 --> 03:27:42.079 This is not what's that happened? This is not a 3945 03:27:42.200 --> 03:27:46.079 magic juice, said Kemera. Well, it's not interested anymore juice. 3946 03:27:48.280 --> 03:27:51.440 Well Sid, oh, Sid, what's your juice? 3947 03:27:51.479 --> 03:27:51.719 Brother? 3948 03:27:51.920 --> 03:27:55.040 It's all Hogan, brother, all gizzy. I heard you're working 3949 03:27:55.120 --> 03:27:56.239 on anti frost. 3950 03:27:56.360 --> 03:27:56.600 Brother. 3951 03:27:58.319 --> 03:28:00.280 I always knew you were a heat magnet, dude, but 3952 03:28:00.360 --> 03:28:00.639 this is. 3953 03:28:00.680 --> 03:28:01.639 Taking a little too far. 3954 03:28:01.799 --> 03:28:02.000 Brother. 3955 03:28:02.399 --> 03:28:02.840 What's going on? 3956 03:28:03.040 --> 03:28:03.280 Dude? 3957 03:28:05.479 --> 03:28:07.520 You're gonna fight the frost and my oranges? Dude to 3958 03:28:07.600 --> 03:28:09.559 my grove that I got down here on this eighth 3959 03:28:09.559 --> 03:28:13.000 fy twelve, brother, and these bag glides? Dude, did you 3960 03:28:13.959 --> 03:28:14.879 you're gonna fight Frost? 3961 03:28:14.959 --> 03:28:15.159 Brother? 3962 03:28:15.200 --> 03:28:15.760 Are you gonna fight? 3963 03:28:16.040 --> 03:28:19.959 I don't know, Hulk cloaging, Wait a minute, when you 3964 03:28:20.360 --> 03:28:22.200 I just got a few questions about this business. You're 3965 03:28:22.200 --> 03:28:26.559 in business, brother, We worked together for years and you 3966 03:28:26.680 --> 03:28:32.440 you read SID has done no outreach. 3967 03:28:32.559 --> 03:28:32.719 All. 3968 03:28:33.440 --> 03:28:36.760 There's no reason that Hulk should think Sid going into 3969 03:28:36.840 --> 03:28:39.280 the private sector. Let's say, is any of his business. 3970 03:28:39.719 --> 03:28:41.959 But he calls sit up and he grills him on 3971 03:28:42.079 --> 03:28:42.840 this John. 3972 03:28:43.879 --> 03:28:47.520 Watch you like, take me stepping the dude? What's the 3973 03:28:47.600 --> 03:28:52.559 new biz? Where are you at? Brother? Right? Right? You know, 3974 03:28:52.719 --> 03:28:54.200 all of a sudden, I hear Big in the a. 3975 03:28:55.360 --> 03:28:57.680 I hear you know, Big Sizz is doing a lot 3976 03:28:57.760 --> 03:29:00.399 more than you're selling wrestling moves. Dude, he's selling ad space. 3977 03:29:00.479 --> 03:29:00.719 Brother. 3978 03:29:02.760 --> 03:29:05.760 Right, let me ask you a question, brother, Are you 3979 03:29:05.840 --> 03:29:06.959 working aghol So? 3980 03:29:07.040 --> 03:29:09.760 Do I understand that you're you're in the agricultural business, dude, 3981 03:29:10.120 --> 03:29:16.239 So does that mean you're working agricultural hall or agricultural nash? 3982 03:29:18.520 --> 03:29:23.840 I mean, do you think, I mean, do you really 3983 03:29:23.879 --> 03:29:25.360 think I'm the only one that would notice? 3984 03:29:25.399 --> 03:29:30.360 Brother? All of a sudden, I hear all of a sudden, 3985 03:29:30.360 --> 03:29:35.200 I hear cultural business. Dude. I'm like stroking the stash. Brother, 3986 03:29:35.319 --> 03:29:38.920 I'm wondering, Wade you work on agriculture? Dude? You were 3987 03:29:38.959 --> 03:29:49.280 an Allentown brother? Is he taking TV in Allentown's. 3988 03:29:46.159 --> 03:29:47.479 Going to Ringer's Roost for dinner? 3989 03:29:47.559 --> 03:29:48.840 Brother? Watching the Nasty? 3990 03:29:50.479 --> 03:29:55.440 There's no, there's no Dellan is Nasty? Is sas sister? 3991 03:29:56.440 --> 03:29:56.639 Sister? 3992 03:29:56.760 --> 03:29:56.959 Dude? 3993 03:29:57.959 --> 03:29:58.600 Is that where we're at? 3994 03:29:58.719 --> 03:29:58.920 Brother? 3995 03:30:01.040 --> 03:30:02.959 Did she work at the George Washington motor Lauge? 3996 03:30:04.399 --> 03:30:07.000 How you got in with aghol M? 3997 03:30:11.520 --> 03:30:14.680 He goes to work for an a chemical company called 3998 03:30:14.840 --> 03:30:18.319 Custom Chemicides, and Holt's turn around is tell me how 3999 03:30:18.360 --> 03:30:20.959 you got in with agg Hall? Like, why would you 4000 03:30:21.040 --> 03:30:23.280 be in conversation with the building and you're trying to 4001 03:30:23.319 --> 03:30:29.959 set up a position, like you're talking to Bruno. You're 4002 03:30:29.959 --> 03:30:32.360 trying to start to get another office going. 4003 03:30:33.200 --> 03:30:34.360 Are you doing a run with Bruno? 4004 03:30:38.440 --> 03:30:40.520 He thinks if he says what's going to happen, he 4005 03:30:40.680 --> 03:30:43.159 just keeps guessing because he thinks that if he lands 4006 03:30:43.200 --> 03:30:44.959 on what's actually gonna happen, then he'll get a little 4007 03:30:45.000 --> 03:30:52.159 tell out of it, and you know he'll give it away. Somehow, yep, doing. 4008 03:30:53.639 --> 03:30:53.920 Going to be. 4009 03:30:55.680 --> 03:30:58.559 I mean, like I saw you were the state state 4010 03:30:58.600 --> 03:31:01.319 agg wrap all of a sudden for Mississippi and Alabama's 4011 03:31:01.319 --> 03:31:03.120 pretty close to Florida. Dude, what's the next. 4012 03:31:03.000 --> 03:31:05.600 Step talking people about beating Hulk Hogan becoming hulkch sp 4013 03:31:05.799 --> 03:31:06.559 are you Hulk Hogan? 4014 03:31:08.680 --> 03:31:11.959 Is it any I know one? I know one point. 4015 03:31:12.079 --> 03:31:14.559 Vince promised you that, Brother, it's not an amusable question. 4016 03:31:15.120 --> 03:31:16.440 Yeah. I'm just trying to get all my eggs in 4017 03:31:16.440 --> 03:31:17.239 a row, brother. 4018 03:31:18.959 --> 03:31:20.520 Because I got a lot going on here, said so 4019 03:31:20.559 --> 03:31:21.959 I need to make sure I got a pretty clear 4020 03:31:22.040 --> 03:31:25.399 path on what the next eighteen brother, And I got 4021 03:31:25.440 --> 03:31:26.879 this sid thing hanging out here. 4022 03:31:26.879 --> 03:31:29.360 The year is planning the next year and a half, brother. 4023 03:31:31.040 --> 03:31:36.399 Right, And I'm looking at this business you're in all 4024 03:31:36.399 --> 03:31:38.360 of a sudden, Brother, and it's it seems to me 4025 03:31:38.559 --> 03:31:40.559 it's tall Hogan to be situated at all like the 4026 03:31:40.600 --> 03:31:41.280 old territories? 4027 03:31:41.319 --> 03:31:44.520 Brother? What it is? 4028 03:31:44.680 --> 03:31:47.799 Brother's running Alabama and Mississippi all of a sudden, Who's 4029 03:31:48.239 --> 03:31:50.200 who's running Florida's where my mind goes to. 4030 03:31:50.280 --> 03:31:53.120 Brother, where is it going now? And what does that 4031 03:31:53.280 --> 03:31:54.360 mean for Hulk Hogan? 4032 03:32:02.159 --> 03:32:04.920 What episode was it when Hulk Hogan had a complete 4033 03:32:04.959 --> 03:32:07.159 tail spin about someone getting a job outside of the 4034 03:32:07.159 --> 03:32:12.680 wrestling business. Oh yeah, the Sid tribute. This is not 4035 03:32:13.040 --> 03:32:16.000 a magic juice, said KEMERA. It's strictly a tool to 4036 03:32:16.040 --> 03:32:20.399 be used along with good cultural practices. Camera stressed the 4037 03:32:20.440 --> 03:32:24.600 importance of plants being healthy and free of insect, heavy 4038 03:32:24.639 --> 03:32:28.959 insect pressure or disease. So frost guard brought to you 4039 03:32:29.120 --> 03:32:35.200 by uh well, a accustomed chemicide spokesperson. Near you a 4040 03:32:35.280 --> 03:32:39.879 crop that, normally, one article reads about the technology, normally 4041 03:32:39.920 --> 03:32:42.840 would be damaged if the temperature drops to twenty nine degrees. 4042 03:32:42.920 --> 03:32:46.760 Once sprayed with a frost protectant, could withstand temperatures several 4043 03:32:46.840 --> 03:32:48.440 degrees cooler. 4044 03:32:49.719 --> 03:32:50.440 My cool, dude. 4045 03:32:50.559 --> 03:32:52.520 So if you can believe it, this is what Sid 4046 03:32:53.280 --> 03:32:57.559 Well cool. This is what Sid goes on to do. 4047 03:33:00.760 --> 03:33:03.840 I cannot imagine him in the polo, you know, because 4048 03:33:03.879 --> 03:33:07.719 he's he's working territories that are always ninety fucking degrees 4049 03:33:08.319 --> 03:33:11.319 and just so humid you can't even breathe. And he's 4050 03:33:11.399 --> 03:33:15.200 walking the fields with the farmers on a Saturday. He's 4051 03:33:15.200 --> 03:33:17.959 like yeah, and they're like, whoa, what a Were you 4052 03:33:18.079 --> 03:33:19.360 a basketball player or something? 4053 03:33:19.440 --> 03:33:19.600 Man? 4054 03:33:19.760 --> 03:33:24.399 Oh my god, what would the would the what the 4055 03:33:24.479 --> 03:33:25.639 Vince McMahon styck. 4056 03:33:26.399 --> 03:33:29.719 Or not where a wrestled? Nor will I? 4057 03:33:30.760 --> 03:33:33.200 Oh my god, you are massive? How tall are you? 4058 03:33:35.159 --> 03:33:39.440 I mean, uh, that's my bus. 4059 03:33:40.680 --> 03:33:42.360 That's what came out of my fucking mouth. 4060 03:33:43.879 --> 03:33:44.680 How tall are you? 4061 03:33:45.000 --> 03:33:46.520 That's not my business? 4062 03:33:49.760 --> 03:33:55.479 Not, that's not yours, that's not my business. My business. Now, 4063 03:33:56.760 --> 03:34:00.879 hag chemicals, talk to me. 4064 03:34:00.959 --> 03:34:03.920 You're gonna do about your frost problems? You're gonna do 4065 03:34:04.040 --> 03:34:06.559 about it? What are you gonna do about your frost? 4066 03:34:08.760 --> 03:34:14.600 Are you gonna take the power of Sid and frosted? 4067 03:34:18.239 --> 03:34:21.680 I won't know where you're gonna go. Where you plan 4068 03:34:21.840 --> 03:34:34.920 to be when Sid frosts? Wow? Well, well said. 4069 03:34:34.920 --> 03:34:36.360 I gotta tell you I'm worried about the colts now 4070 03:34:38.440 --> 03:34:45.319 earler than expect that oh ship and he doesn't kick 4071 03:34:45.399 --> 03:34:45.680 him out. 4072 03:34:46.239 --> 03:34:48.879 You don't understand what it means a frost? 4073 03:34:51.840 --> 03:34:53.719 Okay, but what can I do to protect my crops? 4074 03:34:53.760 --> 03:34:53.879 Man? 4075 03:34:54.159 --> 03:34:57.360 You look me dead in the eye, and I want 4076 03:34:57.399 --> 03:35:04.520 you to understand one thing. You can never recover from 4077 03:35:04.600 --> 03:35:10.040 the frost. I will always be watching you. 4078 03:35:11.959 --> 03:35:13.680 I will never take my eyes off you. 4079 03:35:15.760 --> 03:35:24.239 You will never have the chemicals that I provide Because 4080 03:35:24.319 --> 03:35:25.879 I wrote the chemical world. 4081 03:35:29.760 --> 03:35:32.840 But but, but, but, mister, mister uty, I mean, I'm 4082 03:35:32.879 --> 03:35:38.200 particularly concerned about stone fruits. I mean they're at a 4083 03:35:38.239 --> 03:35:40.959 critical stage. A hard frost could really damage them, Sir, 4084 03:35:43.079 --> 03:35:45.120 A hard frost can really damage them. I didn't say 4085 03:35:45.120 --> 03:35:49.120 anything about softball, sir, heart frost really damaging my apples 4086 03:35:49.159 --> 03:35:53.159 and stone I didn't. 4087 03:35:53.319 --> 03:35:57.600 Maybe I should have softball is the most important. 4088 03:35:57.319 --> 03:35:59.719 Say say say whatever you would say if I said it. 4089 03:36:01.920 --> 03:36:07.239 There is nothing you can't solve with softball. Now you 4090 03:36:07.280 --> 03:36:08.399 won't go play softball? 4091 03:36:09.479 --> 03:36:09.799 All right? 4092 03:36:11.399 --> 03:36:11.440 No? 4093 03:36:11.840 --> 03:36:13.799 I mean, did you walk in here to play hardball? 4094 03:36:13.920 --> 03:36:14.360 Is the question. 4095 03:36:14.760 --> 03:36:16.399 What I'm tired of you doing is put word in 4096 03:36:16.479 --> 03:36:20.120 my mouth. I'm asking you about softball. 4097 03:36:23.319 --> 03:36:25.479 Do you guys offer I don't know wind machines or 4098 03:36:25.520 --> 03:36:27.520 frost fans. I heard they're good for mixing up the 4099 03:36:27.559 --> 03:36:28.719 air and keeping the temperature. 4100 03:36:30.959 --> 03:36:31.879 That's what SID does. 4101 03:36:36.040 --> 03:36:37.799 I've got a couple of frost fans, but they're not 4102 03:36:37.959 --> 03:36:41.520 enough to cover the whole orchard. Do you have any options? 4103 03:36:43.200 --> 03:36:44.120 It's pain. 4104 03:36:47.200 --> 03:36:49.639 You don't have any sprinklers I can use overnight. I 4105 03:36:49.719 --> 03:36:51.079 heard a light mist can help. 4106 03:36:51.120 --> 03:36:53.719 Is sprinkle your head with pain? 4107 03:36:58.600 --> 03:37:00.319 I heard a light mist can help her packed my 4108 03:37:00.440 --> 03:37:02.239 blossoms from forming a layer of eyes. 4109 03:37:04.520 --> 03:37:08.399 Is it true? What's true or what's not true? All? 4110 03:37:08.600 --> 03:37:08.879 I know? 4111 03:37:09.799 --> 03:37:10.520 What are you doing here? 4112 03:37:10.600 --> 03:37:10.760 Man? 4113 03:37:10.920 --> 03:37:15.239 Came here to sell and I'm not selling to you. 4114 03:37:22.879 --> 03:37:24.040 Do you have frost blankets? 4115 03:37:24.280 --> 03:37:25.840 I'm paint blankets. 4116 03:37:32.959 --> 03:37:34.920 I mean, I've got some row covers for the veggies, 4117 03:37:34.959 --> 03:37:38.239 but the orchard is my main concern. I mean, I 4118 03:37:38.280 --> 03:37:40.319 don't know about the sprinkers. I'm about water right now. 4119 03:37:40.680 --> 03:37:42.760 It's gonna be tough to cover everything in the eye. 4120 03:37:45.479 --> 03:37:58.319 Do you grow? Can? I said? Do you grow? 4121 03:38:02.079 --> 03:38:05.000 I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with viennas. Is that exact 4122 03:38:05.159 --> 03:38:06.559 fruit or something? I don't understand. 4123 03:38:06.760 --> 03:38:10.040 You know exactly what I'm talking about. I'm talking about 4124 03:38:10.159 --> 03:38:12.239 Vienna sausages canned. 4125 03:38:16.639 --> 03:38:20.639 I know those. That's a processed meat product that comes 4126 03:38:20.639 --> 03:38:23.399 from from animals, that doesn't come from the ground. I'm 4127 03:38:23.920 --> 03:38:27.440 run an orchard here. I don't even have any livestock 4128 03:38:27.479 --> 03:38:27.840 that alone. 4129 03:38:28.000 --> 03:38:31.680 Understand. Vienna is life. 4130 03:38:35.959 --> 03:38:38.600 Do you have me homeless and Memphis homeless in Memphis 4131 03:38:38.799 --> 03:38:44.360 cana Vienna sausages And do you know how many they're 4132 03:38:44.360 --> 03:38:46.639 eating them? Not because they want to, but because they're 4133 03:38:46.680 --> 03:38:48.319 having to, not because they need you. 4134 03:38:48.399 --> 03:38:50.079 Not because they want to, but because that is what 4135 03:38:50.200 --> 03:38:51.040 the church offers. 4136 03:38:55.799 --> 03:38:57.479 Anything else besides Vienna's, is it? 4137 03:38:57.559 --> 03:38:57.760 I mean? 4138 03:38:57.840 --> 03:38:59.399 Is that all they get? Just a can of ennas? 4139 03:39:01.200 --> 03:39:02.079 I want to tell you something. 4140 03:39:02.200 --> 03:39:04.120 Did they at least get a package of crackers too? 4141 03:39:04.520 --> 03:39:05.760 If they people? 4142 03:39:09.840 --> 03:39:12.360 I mean, I would be glad to grow viands here 4143 03:39:12.399 --> 03:39:14.479 if I could get something to value in return. 4144 03:39:15.920 --> 03:39:20.879 You grov church. I'll send you a headshot signed by Sid. 4145 03:39:30.719 --> 03:39:33.680 I know he has an interesting sales approach, doesn't he. 4146 03:39:34.399 --> 03:39:37.319 You talk about round up, he rounds him right up. 4147 03:39:38.399 --> 03:39:41.440 So yeah, is uh? You can picture them in the polo, 4148 03:39:41.600 --> 03:39:44.840 white polo, and just like the heat the heat bugs, 4149 03:39:44.879 --> 03:39:47.799 you know, like when you're a really hot area and 4150 03:39:47.920 --> 03:39:51.520 it's like three in the afternoon. Just it's just like 4151 03:39:51.680 --> 03:39:56.280 these bugs just going deep in the woods. That's it's 4152 03:39:56.360 --> 03:39:59.920 his life. That's his life, of course, And we're gonna 4153 03:40:00.280 --> 03:40:02.280 revisit a little bit of sound you've already heard here. 4154 03:40:02.840 --> 03:40:04.520 That's life until of course this happens. 4155 03:40:05.040 --> 03:40:06.799 And then one day I'd come home from work, and 4156 03:40:07.159 --> 03:40:11.239 usually work on Saturdays all the time, during a busy 4157 03:40:11.280 --> 03:40:14.200 time of farming, Saturdays had Sundays good day to be 4158 03:40:14.239 --> 03:40:16.040 out there with the farmer to help, you know, see 4159 03:40:16.040 --> 03:40:19.600 if he needed anything. And I came in on Saturday, 4160 03:40:20.120 --> 03:40:23.559 my kept my wife's cousin said, Pitts mc man has 4161 03:40:23.559 --> 03:40:27.319 been calling here, said yesterday every five minutes. 4162 03:40:27.440 --> 03:40:31.079 I said, really, hear from eight months wherever it was, 4163 03:40:32.360 --> 03:40:34.520 and the calls, I'm not here. 4164 03:40:35.520 --> 03:40:36.040 This funny. 4165 03:40:36.079 --> 03:40:38.719 I picked the phone call with my buddy's and phone clicks, 4166 03:40:38.760 --> 03:40:41.559 I clicked it over. It was Vince, he said, Sin, 4167 03:40:42.079 --> 03:40:45.280 it was Vince. I hate events and I got a 4168 03:40:45.360 --> 03:40:47.399 big favor from you. I said, what it goes, I 4169 03:40:47.520 --> 03:40:49.000 need you to do a couple of shots for me. 4170 03:40:49.200 --> 03:40:53.680 I said, well, well, all right, when are they He said, 4171 03:40:53.959 --> 03:40:57.399 well tonight and tomorrow. I got like forty minutes to 4172 03:40:57.440 --> 03:41:00.559 make the flight. I said, aby, got my ship, get 4173 03:41:00.600 --> 03:41:02.200 addressed in the car, and they picked me up there 4174 03:41:02.280 --> 03:41:07.040 for it. Next time, the baby boy went home and 4175 03:41:07.200 --> 03:41:10.079 hear more from a couple of weeks, same thing, And 4176 03:41:10.280 --> 03:41:12.879 on Saturday, same thing, and you you do a couple 4177 03:41:12.879 --> 03:41:15.639 of shots the same thing, real quick and but same. 4178 03:41:15.680 --> 03:41:17.079 When I went back, I told him I wasn't. I 4179 03:41:17.120 --> 03:41:20.079 didn't want to come back, you know, I did. 4180 03:41:20.399 --> 03:41:22.440 I would come back, maybe do some bar time stuff 4181 03:41:22.479 --> 03:41:26.479 and vincay no's your full time said things are different now. 4182 03:41:30.559 --> 03:41:34.719 So there again is another instance of Sid getting into 4183 03:41:34.879 --> 03:41:37.159 an absurd amount of detail about how the phone call 4184 03:41:37.319 --> 03:41:40.440 consummated and who clicked over when and all that. I 4185 03:41:40.479 --> 03:41:43.280 don't know why these are important details to him, but 4186 03:41:43.319 --> 03:41:46.559 he tells those details every time. And Vince gets him 4187 03:41:46.559 --> 03:41:48.079 on the horn and says he just needs him for 4188 03:41:48.120 --> 03:41:50.639 something short term. Where did the need come from? You 4189 03:41:50.719 --> 03:41:53.079 already heard it kind of telegraphed a little bit. Where 4190 03:41:53.079 --> 03:41:55.040 did this sudden need come from? Or plug this hole 4191 03:41:55.159 --> 03:41:56.200 that only Sid could plug? 4192 03:41:57.239 --> 03:41:57.559 All right. 4193 03:41:57.719 --> 03:42:01.040 The whole idea at that time was the that was 4194 03:42:01.079 --> 03:42:06.559 a comic book debacle with Ultimate Warrior, and after he 4195 03:42:07.280 --> 03:42:10.440 tried to hold us up on the comic book money 4196 03:42:10.479 --> 03:42:13.360 and what have you, and demanded all this money from us, 4197 03:42:13.520 --> 03:42:16.280 and then he didn't show up. And then he says, 4198 03:42:16.719 --> 03:42:19.479 three days later, after not returning body's call, well, my 4199 03:42:19.600 --> 03:42:23.280 dad's sick or my dad died someone that he had 4200 03:42:23.319 --> 03:42:27.639 reportedly not been close with and been estranged for many, 4201 03:42:27.680 --> 03:42:31.680 many years. So it was a lot of it is 4202 03:42:31.840 --> 03:42:34.319 Warrior going to show up, and Vince was trying to 4203 03:42:34.959 --> 03:42:37.360 do everything he could to get Warrior just to show up. 4204 03:42:37.440 --> 03:42:40.879 Let's get him to show up, come to work, we'll 4205 03:42:40.920 --> 03:42:43.639 talk about it, we'll work through this and what have you. 4206 03:42:44.479 --> 03:42:47.559 I'm sure that we probably looked at a lot of 4207 03:42:47.600 --> 03:42:52.360 different people for that, but it was who's somebody that 4208 03:42:52.559 --> 03:42:58.559 they would accept be happy to see a surprise. Normally 4209 03:42:58.639 --> 03:43:00.840 it would be a guy like you know, Andy Savage, 4210 03:43:01.360 --> 03:43:05.200 And maybe we just didn't have a whole lot of choice. 4211 03:43:05.239 --> 03:43:08.399 And Vince was like, what about Sid? And he doesn't 4212 03:43:08.479 --> 03:43:10.879 have to do anything but go out and deliver a 4213 03:43:11.280 --> 03:43:14.120 power bomb to somebody and that's it. 4214 03:43:14.280 --> 03:43:14.920 They'll be happy. 4215 03:43:16.280 --> 03:43:17.200 What about Sid? 4216 03:43:18.360 --> 03:43:22.079 It's amazing. How are they talking about the No one 4217 03:43:22.120 --> 03:43:22.639 thought about this. 4218 03:43:23.040 --> 03:43:26.239 Since he injured himself. You know, might as well, you know, 4219 03:43:26.360 --> 03:43:27.799 fork over a few bucks. He was going on. 4220 03:43:31.319 --> 03:43:33.920 Well, Vince, he told us last time, but to doctor 4221 03:43:33.959 --> 03:43:34.879 as much as his career. 4222 03:43:35.079 --> 03:43:37.479 Car bomb. Maybe take a bump or two, maybe, you know, 4223 03:43:37.639 --> 03:43:41.840 drop off the you know they got they got, dive 4224 03:43:41.920 --> 03:43:45.639 off the top, turn buckle to the floor, nothing nothing serious, 4225 03:43:46.959 --> 03:43:55.440 land in his head, straight in his head. He doesn't 4226 03:43:55.479 --> 03:43:57.239 know about this, was about that and he doesn't need 4227 03:43:57.319 --> 03:43:59.680 to know about this. But we're gonna bring in Kenny Gobashi. 4228 03:44:00.479 --> 03:44:07.520 That is a he's an entertainer from Japan, and you 4229 03:44:07.559 --> 03:44:11.719 know what we're gonna have. He does this spectacular uh 4230 03:44:11.959 --> 03:44:15.680 you know, flipping maneuver where he you know, he gives 4231 03:44:15.719 --> 03:44:18.079 you a half of a Nelson and then he just 4232 03:44:18.200 --> 03:44:19.719 drops you on your head and we're going to have 4233 03:44:19.799 --> 03:44:24.719 Sid take that be me entertaining. 4234 03:44:26.040 --> 03:44:31.159 It would be quite quite entertaining. Entertaining, is right? So yeah, 4235 03:44:32.879 --> 03:44:35.079 let's just talk right through what Sid says is a 4236 03:44:35.159 --> 03:44:37.399 career ending injury and give him a call, and what 4237 03:44:37.520 --> 03:44:40.000 do you know, Holy presto, he jumps right in the 4238 03:44:40.079 --> 03:44:46.000 plane immediately. Isn't well he's working in chemicals. I said, 4239 03:44:46.040 --> 03:44:48.200 oh yeah, pal, well, I got a lot of chemicals. 4240 03:44:48.319 --> 03:44:51.879 It's nothing compared to the chemicals I can dangle. It's 4241 03:44:51.920 --> 03:44:55.360 more like my chemical romance. As it regards Sid in 4242 03:44:55.440 --> 03:44:56.719 the w B. Here's more from Bruce. 4243 03:44:57.559 --> 03:45:00.239 All right, the whole idea at that time that was 4244 03:45:01.399 --> 03:45:02.120 a comic book. 4245 03:45:02.719 --> 03:45:03.559 Sorry, already did that. 4246 03:45:04.120 --> 03:45:04.440 And so. 4247 03:45:06.200 --> 03:45:09.799 Sid's back and here's how it sounded. This is what 4248 03:45:09.840 --> 03:45:12.760 it would found by even though he was supposed to 4249 03:45:12.799 --> 03:45:14.600 just come in for a couple of shots, non televised 4250 03:45:14.680 --> 03:45:16.840 quick matches to a power bomb, keep the people happy, 4251 03:45:17.559 --> 03:45:19.840 fill that Warrior gap, right, because there are people still 4252 03:45:19.920 --> 03:45:21.559 that bought tickets thinking Warrior was going to be in 4253 03:45:21.600 --> 03:45:24.600 these house shows and they're firing him, so they're gonna 4254 03:45:24.600 --> 03:45:27.479 show up pissed. Potentially, these fans, who can we put 4255 03:45:27.520 --> 03:45:29.479 out there that will feel like a replacement for your value? 4256 03:45:29.559 --> 03:45:32.879 And yeah, Sid kind of hits that same nostalgia. Chord 4257 03:45:33.360 --> 03:45:36.120 hadn't seen him in a long time suitable replacement. But 4258 03:45:36.319 --> 03:45:39.479 we know Vince and if you have that kind of 4259 03:45:39.559 --> 03:45:41.760 value on one show, he's gonna want you whenever show. 4260 03:45:42.639 --> 03:45:45.280 We've established this, So we just wanted to come in 4261 03:45:45.319 --> 03:45:47.000 for a couple of shots to plug holes for us, 4262 03:45:47.120 --> 03:45:49.920 turns into we need you back full time, turns into 4263 03:45:50.120 --> 03:45:52.520 we need to pretend you never told us that you 4264 03:45:52.639 --> 03:45:56.520 had career ending injuries to this happening. It was the 4265 03:45:56.600 --> 03:45:59.159 International Incident pay per view. A six man tag was 4266 03:45:59.200 --> 03:46:01.799 penciled in. Shawn Michaels, I'm at Johnson and the Ultimate 4267 03:46:01.840 --> 03:46:05.040 Warrior were to face Yokozuna, Owen Hart and Jewish Bulldog 4268 03:46:06.159 --> 03:46:09.840 or Vader. It was not Yokazu in Invader and due 4269 03:46:09.879 --> 03:46:12.559 to the Ultimate Warriors firing for reasons referenced there by 4270 03:46:12.600 --> 03:46:15.040 Bruce Pritchard. We've gone into it one hundred times over 4271 03:46:15.120 --> 03:46:18.079 ten years on the show. You know the story. There's 4272 03:46:18.120 --> 03:46:21.399 a need once again for a big man to fill 4273 03:46:21.479 --> 03:46:23.520 those shoes, and this is what it sounded like that 4274 03:46:23.680 --> 03:46:25.680 summer of nineteen ninety six. 4275 03:46:26.000 --> 03:46:28.440 Welcome back every one to more Monday Night, Rod, Jim 4276 03:46:28.520 --> 03:46:30.440 Cornett back in the locker room area. You don't seem 4277 03:46:30.520 --> 03:46:33.239 too upset over whom Shawn Michaels and I'm Matt Johnson 4278 03:46:33.280 --> 03:46:34.600 are gonna choose as a partner. 4279 03:46:34.840 --> 03:46:35.719 Why would I be upset? 4280 03:46:35.760 --> 03:46:38.079 It's been a real productive night for Camp Cornett because 4281 03:46:38.079 --> 03:46:40.040 the Ultimate Warrior's out of the picture in more ways 4282 03:46:40.079 --> 03:46:40.399 than one. 4283 03:46:40.639 --> 03:46:42.000 And Sean Michael Zaman. 4284 03:46:41.760 --> 03:46:43.000 Johnson, they're just buffing. 4285 03:46:43.000 --> 03:46:44.000 They're trying about time. 4286 03:46:44.159 --> 03:46:46.159 They ain't got no partner, they don't have anybody to 4287 03:46:46.200 --> 03:46:48.680 do themors not kid, because nobody in our right mind 4288 03:46:48.719 --> 03:46:50.600 would step into that spot to be their partner and 4289 03:46:50.680 --> 03:46:52.520 that six man tag after what we just did a 4290 03:46:52.559 --> 03:46:54.600 little while ago to the Warrior, I happen to know 4291 03:46:54.879 --> 03:46:58.319 that all the ww have superstars, they already have prior commitments, so. 4292 03:46:58.399 --> 03:46:59.920 Nobody to right mind would step into it. 4293 03:47:00.200 --> 03:47:03.000 All the other guys are taking so Shawn Michael's Iman Johnson, 4294 03:47:03.120 --> 03:47:03.719 you're bluffing. 4295 03:47:03.879 --> 03:47:05.479 July twenty first International Listen. 4296 03:47:05.559 --> 03:47:06.239 I promise you this. 4297 03:47:06.799 --> 03:47:09.639 The three members of Camp Cornett are gonna take real 4298 03:47:09.760 --> 03:47:11.600 good care of the two of you kids. 4299 03:47:11.600 --> 03:47:13.719 You're coming to a gang fight and you're forgetting to 4300 03:47:13.760 --> 03:47:14.600 bring your own gang. 4301 03:47:14.680 --> 03:47:17.000 Oh yeah, all right, thank you very much. Let's take 4302 03:47:17.000 --> 03:47:19.479 you out of Sean Michaels. I'm at Johnson standing by, Gentlemen, 4303 03:47:19.479 --> 03:47:20.239 are running out of time. 4304 03:47:20.440 --> 03:47:21.319 Whom have you chosen? 4305 03:47:21.639 --> 03:47:24.600 Jim Cornett, We don't bluff. This is the World Wrestling Federaction. 4306 03:47:24.719 --> 03:47:24.920 Boy. 4307 03:47:25.000 --> 03:47:26.559 You gotta know when to hold him and no one 4308 03:47:26.639 --> 03:47:29.479 to fold them. And you should have folded. Surprise, surprise, 4309 03:47:29.559 --> 03:47:32.399 Look what we have for Camp Cornet. 4310 03:47:33.159 --> 03:47:33.600 Cicho. 4311 03:47:34.719 --> 03:47:39.159 You're looking at that figure, probably asked yourself, shining Michael, what. 4312 03:47:39.280 --> 03:47:39.920 Are you gone? 4313 03:47:40.000 --> 03:47:42.399 And done? Yeah twice. 4314 03:47:44.200 --> 03:47:47.639 And he's released me this time For you Cornett and 4315 03:47:47.719 --> 03:47:49.760 the Cornett camp, there's nothing. 4316 03:47:50.079 --> 03:47:51.200 There's no good news. 4317 03:47:51.840 --> 03:47:52.479 I canna hear you. 4318 03:47:54.440 --> 03:47:56.319 How could hear you screaming out? 4319 03:47:57.079 --> 03:47:57.360 Help? 4320 03:47:58.799 --> 03:48:01.319 Health? There? 4321 03:48:03.280 --> 03:48:04.959 I much rather be on this tea. 4322 03:48:05.120 --> 03:48:07.200 Believe there's Joe. 4323 03:48:07.680 --> 03:48:09.600 Why aren't you? 4324 03:48:09.840 --> 03:48:12.440 Gentlemen and Jeff Cornet put the corner back ye me, 4325 03:48:12.559 --> 03:48:13.559 what are you trying to do to me? 4326 03:48:13.799 --> 03:48:16.399 Carloman, somebody tried to camp Cordon. 4327 03:48:16.639 --> 03:48:18.079 He's not gonna get in a ring with that guy. 4328 03:48:18.120 --> 03:48:19.799 He's a nut. That's why he hadn't been in the 4329 03:48:19.920 --> 03:48:20.360 w WM. 4330 03:48:20.399 --> 03:48:21.159 He's been locked up. 4331 03:48:21.200 --> 03:48:24.600 Somebody getting tradment putting elect rooms to his hand. They've 4332 03:48:24.680 --> 03:48:26.959 tried it down the gas tap of the election chair. 4333 03:48:27.079 --> 03:48:29.239 But I'm gonna tell you something right now, I gonna 4334 03:48:29.239 --> 03:48:31.559 put up with this. There's no way the camp Corde 4335 03:48:31.879 --> 03:48:34.000 is gonna be ford to getting the regular second Monster 4336 03:48:34.840 --> 03:48:35.520 Chot said. 4337 03:48:35.520 --> 03:48:36.760 I'm calling Clarien Jason. 4338 03:48:36.799 --> 03:48:41.680 I'm doing whatever I gotta do about I'm sick. 4339 03:48:45.000 --> 03:48:46.559 And for the run that was just supposed to be 4340 03:48:46.639 --> 03:48:49.159 one power bomb, do as little as possible, It turned 4341 03:48:49.239 --> 03:48:53.200 into the run of Sid's career, as he would soon 4342 03:48:53.280 --> 03:48:56.479 be WWF champion and the die would truly be cast 4343 03:48:57.000 --> 03:48:59.719 on what he meant as a pro wrestler. That's next 4344 03:48:59.760 --> 03:49:03.959 time on tlf's Tribute to sit River is a city. 4345 03:49:03.760 --> 03:49:07.360 Preceding announcement as a t J DeSantis production. Its contents 4346 03:49:07.479 --> 03:49:09.120 is intended for private use only.