Speaker 1: Hey, what's up everybody. We're gonna do this short and
Speaker 1: sweet show and uh, you know we're gonna get it in.
Speaker 1: So this is gonna be one of those quick shows.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about a few things real quick. Look
Speaker 1: at this out the way, Stray and Swerve are out
Speaker 1: doing visits with their boys. So they're around the country
Speaker 1: parts unknown. Uh, you could probably follow if you follow
Speaker 1: them to the social media, know what exactly where they are.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we will be doing a lot of audience
Speaker 1: participation today. But let's just let's get to the man
Speaker 1: of the hour, Man Jay Batt. Dude is head here.
Speaker 1: He had a good press conference. I will say that
Speaker 1: he came a lot of energy, probably had some of
Speaker 1: the better energy of an administrator we've had hireder damage
Speaker 1: you in a few years, honestly, Like, what's your opinion
Speaker 1: about them? Like, what did you think if you saw
Speaker 1: the press conference? I liked I'm gonna echo Swerve. I
Speaker 1: liked that he said that we're going to paraphrasing here
Speaker 1: that we're going to get championships. He made that emphasis
Speaker 1: like we're gonna, of course, graduate student athletes and we're gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, get a good education. Basically we're gonaet championships.
Speaker 1: Appreciate that he said, you know, we're gonna take care
Speaker 1: of the sports, but football is gonna be a priority.
Speaker 1: Appreciate that. I love that because we definitely have been
Speaker 1: long suffering. I was gonna say long stuffing. Long suffering
Speaker 1: is like an extreme. We've been We've been down a
Speaker 1: little bit, you know, we've been down a little bit.
Speaker 1: Spartan family and oh hey, hey, Marine, how you doing,
Speaker 1: Hey what do you hate? Marine? How you guys doing?
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining the chat. We love you, We love you.
Speaker 1: Don't forget to hit the like button. But it's a yeah, man,
Speaker 1: j J Back comes from a good background. Me and
Speaker 1: everyone's been saying to that nauseam. But like I'm what
Speaker 1: you guys, what's your guys opinion? It's a like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to put too much on it, but like
Speaker 1: I know, some people are like, he's gonna save everything,
Speaker 1: and some people are like, just another if he came
Speaker 1: from Georgia tech, And I mean, both of those things
Speaker 1: could happen, like you know, you know, but he's a
Speaker 1: good track record. I shouldn't say both of those except
Speaker 1: he's a good track record. Man, he's making. He made
Speaker 1: He raised a lot of money at Georgia Tech, a
Speaker 1: smaller school, even though it's a Power five. But it's
Speaker 1: not a power four. It ain't. It ain't Michigan State
Speaker 1: tell you that, hey, Woody, good to see you back
Speaker 1: in actually good to see you, good to see you
Speaker 1: what he in the chat? So I mean, obviously if
Speaker 1: he can raise like over seventy million at Georgia Tech
Speaker 1: and like a short amount of time he did, I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see what he does here, right. That's
Speaker 1: the big thing. We need money. We need money at
Speaker 1: a high level, like we talk about every week. You
Speaker 1: hear it, not even just that's the news that mister
Speaker 1: State every they got money where they're doing, like I'm
Speaker 1: sure we have them. Well, I'm sure we have good
Speaker 1: amount of money, but we need more. So this guy
Speaker 1: when he comes around, it's like what is it at
Speaker 1: the at the press conface yesterday right before it was
Speaker 1: reported that he had already made a message for fundraising,
Speaker 1: like right before, like right before the event, which that's
Speaker 1: sintuitive sectuitiveness. He doesn't even start working here for like
Speaker 1: another week or so, what's marine saying? I could tell
Speaker 1: you that I've had some fundraising contact in lest twenty
Speaker 1: fours that I've had a long time that you haven't
Speaker 1: had a long time. Okay, I like that. I like that.
Speaker 1: What case say more say more marine, But I'm telling
Speaker 1: you man, like there was rumors about, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: the Spartan Fund and a few other things kind of
Speaker 1: went to the wayside, like it wasn't as aggressive like
Speaker 1: now I got called by the Spartan Fun a few times.
Speaker 1: Obviously is an alumb but you know, it was just
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, sort of Spartan Fun. It's normal.
Speaker 1: It's not bad, not good, but now it just I know,
Speaker 1: hopefully the fan bases older folks can get behind this
Speaker 1: because you know a lot of people who I see
Speaker 1: talking online and being negative about the way NIL has
Speaker 1: gone or like the older generation because they're like, why
Speaker 1: can't things be the way they were before? And I
Speaker 1: understand that change, change is scary, change is different, but
Speaker 1: we need to get behind us because statistically, older folks
Speaker 1: got they locked up most of the wealth and the money.
Speaker 1: So we need y'all to open them pockets if you
Speaker 1: want them championships like the good old days too, Like
Speaker 1: you want an actional championship in football, you want the
Speaker 1: big trophy. You want the big trophy in basketball. You
Speaker 1: need to open up them pockets. We need to be
Speaker 1: able to We don't want to be the brides Midi
Speaker 1: anymore for you know, Jabari Parkers of the world. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. We want to be able to
Speaker 1: keep Devin Booker, you know, in the state of Michigan
Speaker 1: going to Michigan State. We want to be able to
Speaker 1: drop them checks to keep them short thing players here,
Speaker 1: or to go outside the state, drop a bag or two,
Speaker 1: grab somebody who we knows a different difference maker. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm not saying drop two three
Speaker 1: million on some kid who had a good year somewhere.
Speaker 1: But you know, you don't quite know we're talking about
Speaker 1: like Cooper Flag at Duke, they said he got twenty
Speaker 1: eight million in nil for a year. I mean, that
Speaker 1: may sound crazy, but they almost won national championship. Now,
Speaker 1: let's Duke right that they're gonna put money into their
Speaker 1: basketball program. Look, you've already Lewis in the video that
Speaker 1: he puts that. Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely you're right. But
Speaker 1: twenty eight million, that's we gotta be able to do
Speaker 1: something like that if that may sound crazy, but that's
Speaker 1: gonna be cheap in a few years. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: it's there. And people talk about like this dorn and
Speaker 1: fatigue this and that. I mean, that might happen, But
Speaker 1: like I said, I've met I brought this up another
Speaker 1: conversation with somebody. You know that there's people who have like,
Speaker 1: let's think about let's look at like gambling, people who
Speaker 1: know they shouldn't be spending no money, those laxino every
Speaker 1: day because they think they're gonna hit it big. People
Speaker 1: who like anything that's addictive, like winning, winning, the thought
Speaker 1: of winning, the thought of giving over the top is addictive.
Speaker 1: Like shoot, man, if I was if I had money
Speaker 1: like that, I'd be dropping millions on the athletic department.
Speaker 1: I won a championship, Like that's the way. Why else
Speaker 1: would you be a fan if not to be not
Speaker 1: to see the big trophy, not to see the winning.
Speaker 1: So I digress to get back to j Pat. The
Speaker 1: point about Jpat, he's great at fundraising. He seemed really like.
Speaker 1: He also brought up a point of having building relationships
Speaker 1: like he really does. Seem like he gets in the
Speaker 1: trenches with his folks to try to build and I
Speaker 1: appreciate that that leadership style. It's really it's really how
Speaker 1: you hold people accountable because when they see you doing it,
Speaker 1: it makes it easier for them. They follow his lockstep,
Speaker 1: like like any type of organization or any team, like
Speaker 1: you know, they say the old axiom, that's what you
Speaker 1: said that the players reflect their coach. Well, your athletic
Speaker 1: department's going to reflect the A D. And if he's
Speaker 1: coming out here first press conference with good energy talking
Speaker 1: about you know, we and championships and what we're going
Speaker 1: to do and putting football's priority, you got your national
Speaker 1: championship basketball coach coming over there giving them big ups,
Speaker 1: talking about raising money in NIL with a smile on
Speaker 1: his face like this may be the first time is
Speaker 1: O came out and said something about NIL. It didn't
Speaker 1: immediately double back and say, you know, grumble about it.
Speaker 1: Like he seemed happy. He felt it felt like the
Speaker 1: possibilities for him cross his by, like oh wait a minute,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get some money. We're gonna get some serious money. Now.
Speaker 1: People will say that, you know, Tom can get any
Speaker 1: type of any type of bag if you wanted to,
Speaker 1: for real, for real, if you needed it. But he's
Speaker 1: look at it this way. Should you have to go
Speaker 1: to that type of situation you had to pull those cards.
Speaker 1: It should just be people throwing money into a bag
Speaker 1: for you, you know what I mean? Like it shouldn't
Speaker 1: be shouldn't be nothing. And so she'd be like, what
Speaker 1: we need? We need this kid when to get over
Speaker 1: the top. Let me check the bank. Oh, we got it.
Speaker 1: I gotta call up by because people are already funded it.
Speaker 1: That's where he needs to be at. Let's rite Donald,
Speaker 1: the bat era has begun, go grit. I like that
Speaker 1: the bat era. Okay, we said we got some positivity.
Speaker 1: We got some positivity. Man, it's it's it's feeling good man,
Speaker 1: it's been Yeah, we do need to see some stuff
Speaker 1: he needs to come through. We like that first move
Speaker 1: where he was doing the fund raising thing before the
Speaker 1: message before the press conference. That's good, but we need
Speaker 1: to see some action. But it feels good. This feels
Speaker 1: like a good hire. This feels like like we are
Speaker 1: getting back on the good foot. And I I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say anything else about because I don't want jinks it.
Speaker 1: Let's see anybody else in the check and opinion on
Speaker 1: Jay back before we move on. Yeah, let me see here.
Speaker 1: It was the next thing. So, like I said, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be short and sweet. Less we get some participation.
Speaker 1: Moneyball once again, twentieth year. Watch your favorite players from
Speaker 1: Michigan State. And you know former players and players from
Speaker 1: around the area coming who played in the pros are
Speaker 1: still playing the pros. This might be the summer league
Speaker 1: June twenty fourth through July. Let me put that back
Speaker 1: up through July thirty first. Now, I love Moneyball. I
Speaker 1: remember taking my little cousins up there with Miles and them.
Speaker 1: We're playing in Michigan State. It's a great time. It's free.
Speaker 1: We actually got some highlight film of Moneyball from when
Speaker 1: I went down there last summer that you could see
Speaker 1: up on the channel. And some people say it's like
Speaker 1: there's no defense whatever, But you see what guys are
Speaker 1: working on. You see their game. There's times where people
Speaker 1: go to Moneyball and Iszo or coach might tell this
Speaker 1: is hypothetical. I'm not a coach, so I don't know
Speaker 1: what they say exactly. Where there's like hypothetic like hey
Speaker 1: I don't want you, I don't want you, like probably
Speaker 1: something the Cohen card be like hey, Cohen. We know
Speaker 1: you want to dunk, we know you can. We love it.
Speaker 1: We want to see someone. We want you to work
Speaker 1: on your game, work on your ball handling, work on
Speaker 1: your shooting, and you might see him just do that
Speaker 1: at moneyball. You're like, why is he not dunking more?
Speaker 1: Because he's working on his game. And it might look
Speaker 1: really good some games, it might look good all summer.
Speaker 1: It might not look good at all. But people are working.
Speaker 1: They're showing you what they're working on, and that's always
Speaker 1: interesting to see people develop, Like development is key Man,
Speaker 1: especially this sill every year. But I know some people
Speaker 1: were a little skeptical about the transfers Is brought in
Speaker 1: and Trey Ford and I believe the other guy's name
Speaker 1: was Caleb. Forgive me for I can't. I can't find
Speaker 1: his last name. If someone in the chats wants to
Speaker 1: throw me. The other other kids who transferred in, he's
Speaker 1: like six seven, small Ford power fork type, big shoot
Speaker 1: the three. I saw the film on these kids. They're
Speaker 1: they look legit. They're bigger, kids are stronger as though
Speaker 1: obviously it was like, hey, that was our main weakness
Speaker 1: this year, Like when we played usc U E l
Speaker 1: A and of course Auburn they had bigger they had
Speaker 1: a bigger guard forward situation going on, and that was
Speaker 1: really what took us out our game. So like what
Speaker 1: this past year, little if I can you know, break
Speaker 1: down a little bit this past year for those who
Speaker 1: really are in our basketball heads, we had a we
Speaker 1: had a good depth situation and we were beating people
Speaker 1: in waves. We were all tough in people and it
Speaker 1: was beautiful. I mean, if you had some good bigs,
Speaker 1: you might be able to do something with our biggs
Speaker 1: for a little bit, but we'd wear you down because like,
Speaker 1: what's that going to do? Back to the basket. You
Speaker 1: know you're gonna you're gonna dalk on us for two
Speaker 1: and we we run up and down the court getting
Speaker 1: fouled and we're getting three. I mean, that's just mathematics,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We were destroying people, destroying them,
Speaker 1: especially especially scum Caleb Green, Thank you, Donald, thank you.
Speaker 1: On a marine what you say? Moneyball was the first
Speaker 1: proof that Kenny Goings finally had a three point shot
Speaker 1: on Marine. Let me tell you something, God, that was
Speaker 1: a special season. So let me tell you how good
Speaker 1: Cashius Winston was y'all for those who want to go
Speaker 1: down memory lane. Cashus Winston was so good. He lost
Speaker 1: two first round picks, and he took a team of
Speaker 1: starting back court. The starting team lineup of himself, depending
Speaker 1: on who was healthy, was Langford, Matt McQuaid or arms
Speaker 1: at the two or three and a walk on and
Speaker 1: Kenny g Zion Williams career ender extraordinaire and who plays,
Speaker 1: and of course Xavier Tillman. He's the only man on
Speaker 1: earth who has more kids than me right now. Incredible, incredible,
Speaker 1: like he look think about that. That's how good Cashus
Speaker 1: Winston and those guys were. I'll just say Cashus Winston,
Speaker 1: he took a team where people thought we would have
Speaker 1: no chance. Team was injured going into the tournament injured.
Speaker 1: Be they what they said was the best duke team
Speaker 1: ever with a walk on shooting a three. Tell me
Speaker 1: where they do that at God, that was a great season.
Speaker 1: I love that. Just so sad they ran out of gas,
Speaker 1: but it loved it. Marlon, what you're saying, what a fan?
Speaker 1: Y'all know the vis Yeah, we do know the virus man. Well,
Speaker 1: come coming in, let me see poo what you talking about.
Speaker 1: I remember when Tom tumb first came and it was
Speaker 1: summer aim high for Moneyball and he looked all word
Speaker 1: than in the games real love. Yeah, Thomas Temas shooting threes.
Speaker 1: Thomas shooting a lot of threes and Moneyball that I
Speaker 1: think one summer and I was just like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: we finally he's shooting threes. Is gonna be amazing. We're
Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna get to the next level. And he
Speaker 1: didn't really do that during the season. Let me hold on,
Speaker 1: let me get some of my my blas. You know,
Speaker 1: slow sipping, that's that's the screen name right now, my
Speaker 1: producer Shine, right now, that's a slow sipping you know.
Speaker 1: This is this is what we're doing, the short and
Speaker 1: sweet show. Let me see what else? Pooh said. What's
Speaker 1: your thoughts on people saying Michigan has a better roster
Speaker 1: this year than MSU. Who are you referring to football
Speaker 1: or basketball? Can you put that in the I'm in
Speaker 1: retire five? Absolutely? Donald, Absolutely. Matter of fact, somebody everybody
Speaker 1: put their favorite memory of Cashus in the chat. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about that for a second. I still play the
Speaker 1: dude every but what he once a month at least
Speaker 1: once a month, at least at least once a month.
Speaker 1: Crazy game. I remember my son was born the day
Speaker 1: after that game, my first time oldest boy. I remember
Speaker 1: talking to my wife after winning that and I was
Speaker 1: just like, can you hold him in one more week
Speaker 1: Something in my spirit told me if he had just
Speaker 1: stayed one more weekend, we would win the national championship.
Speaker 1: I still think about that. God, that was who what
Speaker 1: are he? Oh? Yeah, Marine, Yeah, it was just that
Speaker 1: was a special time. Oh you know, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: back to Poo's question. I'm assuming because we were talking
Speaker 1: about basketball ball that she was referring to the basketball roster.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, So I don't know to
Speaker 1: who people roll off the balls. And that's just the
Speaker 1: honest answer. We don't know. We don't know. We were
Speaker 1: supposed to. They're supposed to have a better rosters this year.
Speaker 1: You see what happened. We beat this, We beat the
Speaker 1: brakes off them. We dogged walk Michigan twice. We probably
Speaker 1: dog walked in the third time. What he said, Matt
Speaker 1: dunk and back this That that was that was a
Speaker 1: sweet move. I remember that. I remember that Quato Quato
Speaker 1: Cuato was a was a mad man dude. He was.
Speaker 1: He was everything that. Let's go back here for a second.
Speaker 1: Matt McQuaid was like everything Russell Bird was supposed to be.
Speaker 1: If anybody remembers Russell Bird, Russell Bird was supposed to
Speaker 1: be one of the good, the best shooter in America.
Speaker 1: Didn't do that when he came here. I'm not talking
Speaker 1: bad about him as a person. We just talked about
Speaker 1: basketball skills and everybody running. Tell somebody, I'm talking crazy,
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, Matt McQuay came in. He did his job. Man.
Speaker 1: I think it was Who's where's he working on? I
Speaker 1: know he was working for Michigan State for a little bit,
Speaker 1: working under his I think he's another he's an NBA
Speaker 1: right now coaching. He might be. I did a double
Speaker 1: check on that. Someone in the chat tell me. But yeah, man,
Speaker 1: that was a special season. We can get back to that.
Speaker 1: We were the lead eighth this year. So don't don't
Speaker 1: let people tell you that, Oh we got some bad transfers.
Speaker 1: We don't know, but on paper we got bigger. That
Speaker 1: was our That was our main weakness outside of three
Speaker 1: point shooting. The guys they brought in are there was
Speaker 1: I think they're both at least thirty five thirty six
Speaker 1: percent plus three point shooters, your Brian three point shooters.
Speaker 1: They're taller, they're they're both like though I think for
Speaker 1: trade Ford is uh at least at least as tall
Speaker 1: as Acres, if not taller, So he's at least six
Speaker 1: six four sixty five. They say he's like a muscle perpon.
Speaker 1: What do you want? Man? Like, we're trying to fill
Speaker 1: in the holes. I mean, of course you could spend
Speaker 1: the money, but like I said, unless you're going to
Speaker 1: spend the money on absolute sure things like there's got
Speaker 1: Look what happened to Louisville. They paid some kid three
Speaker 1: million and he ended up not being that good. I mean,
Speaker 1: I want us to spend money now, but I want
Speaker 1: to spend money on you know, some kid who got upset,
Speaker 1: who was like a who's like a top, like a
Speaker 1: five star or whatever, but he's not. He don't want
Speaker 1: to go to league right now, or something happened, he
Speaker 1: had a bad situation and we know he's good. Pay
Speaker 1: him the money come missions of state. That's what I
Speaker 1: want to see, or we see a sure fire like
Speaker 1: Cooper flag. If Duke is paying twenty eight million to
Speaker 1: get Cooper flag. Damn it, pay somebody thirty million. Who's
Speaker 1: the top gonna be one number one pick in the
Speaker 1: NBA draft. If you know what's a sure thing, spend
Speaker 1: the money because you're gonna make the money back with
Speaker 1: the commercials, the games being on TV. Every every game
Speaker 1: you got on TV, not on the big ten networks.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, then we got that strange Big ten
Speaker 1: plus situation or Peacock, they gonna put us on the
Speaker 1: Prime Show. I mean, I guess Peacock would be Prime,
Speaker 1: but I'm talking about with that we can you know
Speaker 1: the money's going to be there. What is Ron Ron saying?
Speaker 1: I think im as you missed on maybe two titles.
Speaker 1: The one we lost to Yukon Absolutely that was heartbreaking.
Speaker 1: When that season Keith shared is his wrist hard? Do
Speaker 1: I remember when that happened against North Carolina? I was like,
Speaker 1: we just lost the national championship. That was in the
Speaker 1: regular season. I just knew it. I should probably say
Speaker 1: it out loud because words have power. But and the
Speaker 1: one is a bench. Jared Jackson at Bridges in the
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen was favored by the most to win, then
Speaker 1: lost to Tennessee. That that Jared Jackson one Ron Is.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of attention with that. Jared has otienly
Speaker 1: said multiple times that he just had a bad game
Speaker 1: that day and he would have benched himself, and the
Speaker 1: stats proved that. But like it's that's not even all
Speaker 1: the way true. Is everyone was bad that day, like
Speaker 1: no one getting a shot. If I could check the stats,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that right now, we live on
Speaker 1: the show. I'll got nobody else talking. Was it was
Speaker 1: like got three born basionitis had to be like terrible,
Speaker 1: Like we weren't doing anything. We could attack zone and
Speaker 1: like you've seen since Thenzo has implemented better zone offense
Speaker 1: because we haven't been able. We haven't got hit by
Speaker 1: like that that that paus On offense like that since then.
Speaker 1: But it just that was that was kind of heartbreaking.
Speaker 1: That was sole crushing. But you live me learn, is
Speaker 1: what you say. I met that team back to Miles
Speaker 1: Bridges here in Hawaii. I went to the practice. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: well you see hey Steve, Hey, Steve, how you doing,
Speaker 1: how he's doing? How you doing? Cool? Cool? Yeah? Man?
Speaker 1: A lot of people still talk about that about that
Speaker 1: Jaron thing. But you know, speaking of Jaron. He's he
Speaker 1: missed what a three hundred and twenty five million dollar
Speaker 1: contract because of because of votes? All star votes are
Speaker 1: all NBA votes now, isn't correct me if I'm wrong?
Speaker 1: Isn't all NBA vote on by the media. So like
Speaker 1: people who don't even play the game were able to
Speaker 1: get into his pockets. That's crazy, That's that's crazy. I
Speaker 1: think he lost twenty million dollars because of people other people,
Speaker 1: not because of his performance, because his performance warranted him
Speaker 1: to do well. But I don't I don't like that.
Speaker 1: They gotta fix that. I'd be like, yeah, I need
Speaker 1: to know the names of the people who messed up
Speaker 1: and took up two undred million dollars on my pocket?
Speaker 1: Was Alito Jefferson. I hate that we as fans live
Speaker 1: on that Duke win, but we didn't win. A little
Speaker 1: jenrenalized forty million, not making all envy. I thought it
Speaker 1: was so what was it? His guaranteed contract was gonna
Speaker 1: go to three twenty five but now he's only gonna
Speaker 1: get like, what is it forty million? Because it was
Speaker 1: it was still forty minute. I'm still pissed, like you
Speaker 1: ain't you gonna take forty million? For me off of
Speaker 1: some votes. I don't like that they got. I mean,
Speaker 1: how you read performance. I guess it's in the contracts
Speaker 1: you got all. That's that's still kind of I don't
Speaker 1: like it. And they say it was about one vote too.
Speaker 1: Don't tell me that. Keep that number to yourself. This said,
Speaker 1: I didn't get it. Don't tell me it's about one
Speaker 1: vote because now I'm gonna think about who the one
Speaker 1: person was. But don't do that. Don't do that to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but but yeah, man, that's that's kind of it for tonight, folks,
Speaker 1: unless you guys got something else. But uh well, who
Speaker 1: who said that? Who said that? Right there? Who do
Speaker 1: y'all think was better? Denzel or Cashes? I think Cashes
Speaker 1: was Cashes did more with less. He proved he could
Speaker 1: do more with less. Denzel had a pretty pretty loaded
Speaker 1: team that he went with as his senior year because
Speaker 1: Brent Forbes was the NBA player. He had Aaron Harris
Speaker 1: who was a pretty good player, Deontay Davis, he played.
Speaker 1: He had a cup of coffee in the league versus
Speaker 1: Cash is who the only person on the team who,
Speaker 1: like I said, he had he took a was a
Speaker 1: walk on made a walk up became a starter and
Speaker 1: they they got they got to the final four like
Speaker 1: only other person, only person like Cashes was a second
Speaker 1: round pick and exabered, and tell me what was the
Speaker 1: second round pick? Cashes is playing overseas right now, still
Speaker 1: making money. Ex's still in the league. But Valentine had
Speaker 1: way more help. Uh let's see here, Valentine might have
Speaker 1: just had a great senior year, right his other three
Speaker 1: wasn't as good as Catches, you know, I mean Valentine
Speaker 1: had all right, he like it was steady improvement, like
Speaker 1: he started. I think some games since freshman year, like
Speaker 1: Spots places. So I'm poo pooing a Valentine. Valentine was
Speaker 1: definitely a good player. But if we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: like actual accomplishments when you're leading a team, when the
Speaker 1: Cash got the team and his junior year, he took it,
Speaker 1: he took as far as he can go. If it's
Speaker 1: like there's people this like they there was an ESPN
Speaker 1: statistical uh fake tournament when COVID happened to see who
Speaker 1: win that tournament and they picked in Michigan State ended
Speaker 1: up winning. Like you're before you go to foul four
Speaker 1: and then you were the odds on possible what like
Speaker 1: it was you and Kansas were the statistical favorites to
Speaker 1: announced championship that year. If it wasn't for COVID, we
Speaker 1: might have got that second championship for izz. Oh you know,
Speaker 1: we could have had three championships in Michigan state. But
Speaker 1: we'll never know. That's the heartbreak of it. Stole the
Speaker 1: whole season because because of a virus. That sucks. But
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like, I'm not poop pulling a Valentine
Speaker 1: love it was Valentine. I'll say this Valentine had more
Speaker 1: tools than Cash is like Valentine was always flaired from
Speaker 1: triple doubles. Cash may have been crafty, he was probably
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could say he was a
Speaker 1: better creator because Zell was also the same year he was.
Speaker 1: He was cruel and it was going crazy. But I
Speaker 1: think that in terms of floor raising, Cashes was a
Speaker 1: better floor raizer. And when you when you can raise
Speaker 1: the floor raises your margin of error. Like there's people
Speaker 1: who are like wildly like they have crazy potential, So
Speaker 1: your ceiling could be super high, but if your floor
Speaker 1: is also super low, that's too much variance. And Cassius
Speaker 1: wasn't given much variance, like we were beating the breaksaw
Speaker 1: people with cashes, like he could take over games like
Speaker 1: we don't forget now Michigan State holds the record. I
Speaker 1: think they might still hold the record. And basketball they
Speaker 1: did at the time for largest comeback victory. It was
Speaker 1: against the same school. We have a football against Northwestern
Speaker 1: and we have it in basketball also against Northwestern, and
Speaker 1: Cassius was on that team that brought that had that comeback.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but what is it? Yeah, guys, I mean
Speaker 1: that's that's the news for the day. Uh. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to think, oh, slow sippus hold on Lettos like
Speaker 1: we ain't we ain't cutting we ain't shutting off the
Speaker 1: show yet, slow sipping. People say, Izzo Imasu hasn't won
Speaker 1: since two thousand. Do you think it's good? Want to
Speaker 1: just gotta be luck or is it just hard to
Speaker 1: win more than people think. I think it is harder
Speaker 1: to win than people think. Isil even said that who
Speaker 1: who who got hurt on Cincinnati that year. He was like,
Speaker 1: if that guy didn't get hurt, that we might not
Speaker 1: have won two thousand. I agreed that. Oh thanks Steve,
Speaker 1: Thanks Steve, Oh, now let it. He's gonna ask the
Speaker 1: question and leave all right, find out offans this and
Speaker 1: then I guess we can wrap it up knowing that's
Speaker 1: any other questions. It's hard, it's hard, and sometimes it
Speaker 1: can get in your own way. Like I remember when
Speaker 1: Keith shared Kenya Martin, thank you, thank you. That's what
Speaker 1: it was. That was what tim. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: say it because that wasn't a hundred percent sure that
Speaker 1: year that Keith shared his wrist, that was a year
Speaker 1: that was that was bad luck when we ran to
Speaker 1: that but saw Scott the Skywalker. Okay, whati we ran
Speaker 1: to that? But Wall and Valentine's senior year saw with
Speaker 1: all the three point shooting in which I that was
Speaker 1: kind of like the foreshadowing of where college basketball was
Speaker 1: going to. Then we became the test subject for it.
Speaker 1: What's another year? Uh? I mean it really wasn't like
Speaker 1: we didn't have a big chance No. Nine because North
Speaker 1: Carolina like they were stacked, but we were there. If
Speaker 1: you get to the championship game, you got a chance.
Speaker 1: Draymond's senior year was not junior senior year? What year
Speaker 1: was that? Was that? His junior year when Gordon Hayward
Speaker 1: fouled him and he didn't get the file. That was
Speaker 1: another opportunity. And it's just see things like that, little
Speaker 1: things out of your control, like that whole you can't
Speaker 1: make the reps call foul for you situation. But we
Speaker 1: also we could also say we got to the final
Speaker 1: four is off a humbug a couple of times, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So like Travis Trice's senior year,
Speaker 1: that was a wild run. Travis Trice was actually could
Speaker 1: have died that season. I don't know if people know this,
Speaker 1: but he had like some type of like brain virus
Speaker 1: or something like they didn't know he was gonna play
Speaker 1: basketball again. And then he just got better, like right
Speaker 1: before the season starts to play basketball and he played
Speaker 1: out of his mind, out of his f and mind.
Speaker 1: Got to the final four. That was crazy. Then we
Speaker 1: got beat by Duke. But you know it's just it's
Speaker 1: just a tass up. But you lowered, Like let's go
Speaker 1: back to the nil situation, and like how let's go
Speaker 1: back to j batt and Iszo the money and him?
Speaker 1: Now you know, like I don't want to throw a
Speaker 1: bunch of money around. It's easier to get the extra pieces.
Speaker 1: I want to spend the money when you just got it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, you ain't like, oh
Speaker 1: we need an extra couple of million, Let me call
Speaker 1: my guy. And then you got to call people and
Speaker 1: you get you know that relationships aren't a good when
Speaker 1: the ad is alreadyhidding up people's money in their pockets
Speaker 1: time after time after time after time. And now we
Speaker 1: got a big war chest. You don't got a call
Speaker 1: as often because you got the money. The group that
Speaker 1: is the fan base is raising the money. It's making
Speaker 1: it easy. So now now I'm thinking, Now Isla might
Speaker 1: be like, I don't really think this kid, he might
Speaker 1: help us a little bit. He's asked for too much money.
Speaker 1: But then you know, maybe one of his assistants whispers,
Speaker 1: You're like, you know, you know, we got a good budget.
Speaker 1: You know, I think we can we can take a chance.
Speaker 1: We can take a chance. Maybe it works out, maybe
Speaker 1: it doesn't. But now you've got an extra guy who
Speaker 1: even if there they say they think they're an elite player,
Speaker 1: but they're just very good, very good. And you got
Speaker 1: a bunch of very good players that might be it. Man.
Speaker 1: You might just need to turn the key again, you
Speaker 1: don't know what could happen. Little uh. Travis Trice that
Speaker 1: year was a monster money raw pro. He had a
Speaker 1: monster moneybrow pro before the season. You see your two.
Speaker 1: I don't think I went to the Moneyball that year,
Speaker 1: but I'll take your word for it. But again, Moneyball,
Speaker 1: we talked about it. It's coming June twenty fourth of
Speaker 1: July thirty first and Hold. This is Hold High School.
Speaker 1: So if you just put high school into your GPS
Speaker 1: for people who are trying to go, it is a
Speaker 1: good time. It's free, Joel, it's a good time. It's free.
Speaker 1: Take your kids there during the summer. If you look
Speaker 1: for something to do, you get to meet the players.
Speaker 1: They oftentimes will sign autographs. So I like your chat.
Speaker 1: Your son or daughter wants to go take a picture
Speaker 1: and get an autographed whatever they normally do it. They're good,
Speaker 1: they're good kids. You know you can buy moneyball merch there.
Speaker 1: It's it's just something fun to do during the summer.
Speaker 1: It's now. If you're not near hole, like if you're
Speaker 1: in the Detroit area or something, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: leave work early because the games start like at I
Speaker 1: think five six o'clock. It's a couple of games every night,
Speaker 1: like Tuesdays and Thursday night every night. But try to
Speaker 1: go to the first game. I will say that, try
Speaker 1: to go to the first game that is of the season.
Speaker 1: That is normally when you will see this. Most likely
Speaker 1: you will see former players like Draymond has been there.
Speaker 1: I know Jabari Parker came one year. He wasn't a
Speaker 1: foreign player, but he just loved Michigan State. You will
Speaker 1: see former players, NBA players or whoever. People come from
Speaker 1: overseas and they'll come in and do their celebrity thing
Speaker 1: and play like you're getting that for free. Who can
Speaker 1: beat that? Hold on? Marine, got something to say? Fy
Speaker 1: I just attended the Spartan Fantasy football camp yesterday. If
Speaker 1: you love MSU football as much as I do, please
Speaker 1: attend next year. It's such an awesome look from behind
Speaker 1: the scenes of our program. We will have to we
Speaker 1: will have to We'll have to throw that out there. Marine.
Speaker 1: But you know you're the coach, so you were probably like,
Speaker 1: you know, coaching the players, coaching the folks who are
Speaker 1: in the thing we know about you know about you, Marine,
Speaker 1: Little start six pm. Jabriar Parker pulling a show when
Speaker 1: he came absolutely, thank you. Six pm. You gotta get there,
Speaker 1: gotta get there early because it fills up, and because
Speaker 1: traffic sucks, because if you're coming from where I live
Speaker 1: at six ninety six, is still crazy, absolutely cr I
Speaker 1: don't know why it's taken so long, but yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, it's not. This is the slow and short
Speaker 1: and sweet. This has been thirty minutes, all right, y'all.
Speaker 1: All right, if less anyone else has anything else they
Speaker 1: want to ask to talk about, and we'll wrap it up.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give y'all ten seconds or until I finished
Speaker 1: this last little step. All right, It's been a great time.
Speaker 1: Uh again, Jason and Swerve could not be here Straight
Speaker 1: and Swerve couldn't be here because they are doing visits
Speaker 1: with their sons a couple of different schools. It is
Speaker 1: visiting camp season, so every once in a while over
Speaker 1: the summer, or at least until that's over with, unless
Speaker 1: they're both able to, you might get one of these
Speaker 1: for me. Who knows, I might make a highlight video
Speaker 1: or who knows. We're just having a good time. This
Speaker 1: is just summer, y'all, trying to pass the time. So anyway,
Speaker 1: I love you, guys. Thanks for Steve Letto, Uhldo, Donald Woodie,
Speaker 1: Ron Ron, everybody who asked questions, everyone who's watching, thank you.
Speaker 1: Oh it was it, Marlin my hey man, I didn't
Speaker 1: forget y'all was reading the thing. Thank you, God bless you.
Speaker 1: And hold up, let me say this. Make sure I
Speaker 1: got my my outro right all right. Love you guys,
Speaker 1: gott bless you and go bring have a good