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<v Speaker 1>Joining us now is one of our good friends on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. He's the owner and editor in chief at

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<v Speaker 1>Fantasy Points. You ought to follow them all the times

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<v Speaker 1>and subscribe to all of their work. It's the great

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Dolan. Welcome back, Joe. How you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>You're all right, guys, How are y'all?

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<v Speaker 1>We are fantastic. We are excited. The football's around the corner.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't wait too uh. Look, and in the month

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<v Speaker 1>of July, we're actually going to watch a football game together,

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<v Speaker 1>the Hall of Fame Game. Can you believe it? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you excited to watch five minutes of it and fall asleep?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I am. I can't wait not watching.

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<v Speaker 2>The Hall of Fame game, Guys, I can't do it now.

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<v Speaker 2>I will tell you we have ciccos at Fantasy Points

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<v Speaker 2>who actually play preseason fantasy football, and we do cover it.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not one of those siccos. I cannot get

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<v Speaker 2>myself to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You do it.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing I hope for during the preseason is

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<v Speaker 2>that people don't get hurt. That's really all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is why you'll you won't see a person

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<v Speaker 1>on that field come Hall of Fame weekend. That truly

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<v Speaker 1>matters at the top of the heap there, but we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be watching no matter what happens. At least I will

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<v Speaker 1>be all right, Joe, Let's get into it here. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk first of all about the Falcons. I

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<v Speaker 1>know this Netflix series is out Quarterback. I have not

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<v Speaker 1>watched it yet, But get back to the Kirk Cousins discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously he's on the hook for twenty seven and a

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<v Speaker 1>half million, but I want to talk about Michael PENNOCKX

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<v Speaker 1>and what he was able to do in those last

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<v Speaker 1>three games. Have you seen enough? Because I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of folks around the NFL assume that they've got

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<v Speaker 1>their guy, they're on their way. Have you seen enough

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<v Speaker 1>from Pinnicks or do you need to see a little

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<v Speaker 1>more in those three games where he had three touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 1>three picks, mixed results, but certainly had some promise on

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<v Speaker 1>those throws.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, look, the thing about Pennix was you think of

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<v Speaker 2>a small sample size like that, and you always need

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<v Speaker 2>to see more, guys. I don't think I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I'm breaking any news to you. You know, just a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years ago, based on his rookie season, it

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<v Speaker 2>looked like Mac Jones is going to be a really

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<v Speaker 2>good start quarterback in the league. Maybe not a star,

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<v Speaker 2>but certainly a functional quality starting quarterback. So ruling Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Pennix on those just few games that he had would

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<v Speaker 2>be just complete malpractice. Now, the thing about Pennix was

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<v Speaker 2>we charted him Fantasy points data as being generally inaccurate. However,

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<v Speaker 2>he also made some really impressive throws, So you want

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<v Speaker 2>to know how much do you weigh that? Right? And honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's kind of a debate going on

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<v Speaker 2>in football media at large right now, is are we

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<v Speaker 2>in ways overrating guys who do aesthetically pleasing things the

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<v Speaker 2>way that the position's supposed to be played quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>visa the guys who surely get results. And I would

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<v Speaker 2>say Penix, based on what I saw from him last

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<v Speaker 2>year in a very small sample size, is a guy

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<v Speaker 2>who made some oh my goodness Wolph rose and interspersed

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<v Speaker 2>that with a lot of well, I'm not too sure

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<v Speaker 2>about that, but there's no way I can draw on

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<v Speaker 2>entire conclusion about Michael Pennix. He's a player who for

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<v Speaker 2>fantasy is getting drafted as a number two quarterback. He's

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<v Speaker 2>got a couple of really good wide receivers. If you

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<v Speaker 2>look at production, guys, I know Michael Pennis had a

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<v Speaker 2>connection with Drake London, which is why Drake London's going

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<v Speaker 2>really early for fantasy. But if you look at if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the production, you'd be shocked to see

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<v Speaker 2>how close Darnell Mooney was to Drake London last year.

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<v Speaker 2>So they have a couple of good receivers, and they

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<v Speaker 2>have for my money, one of the two or three

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<v Speaker 2>best running backs in the NFL. This is a team

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<v Speaker 2>that should score points this year. But and Michael Pennocks

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<v Speaker 2>I think has a good situation. He did some good things.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't look lost, but there are certainly things for

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<v Speaker 2>him to improve upon, and the Falcons are making the

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<v Speaker 2>right decision. Clearly was going with him as a starter.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's shift over to Carolina Division. I have well, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>it's a team that's near and near to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the hearts of our listeners. And I've covered this

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<v Speaker 1>team for many many years through thick and thin, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of thin lately. Let's talk about their skill group.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this is I saw Bill Barnwell had an

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<v Speaker 1>article today at ESPN where he had them ranked thirty

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<v Speaker 1>first among receiver group, and look, I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that's based on projection. They added, uh, you know

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<v Speaker 1>McMillan from Arizona, who I think highly of, but again

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know yet. And then they've got Feelan who's

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<v Speaker 1>on the plus side of thirty five. His average separation

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<v Speaker 1>screw I would imagine is not too hot based on

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<v Speaker 1>your metrics. But then they got guys like Jalen Coker,

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<v Speaker 1>Legett and others that are in the fold, Hunter Renfro,

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<v Speaker 1>They've added. What to make of that group? As Bryce

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<v Speaker 1>Young inners year three?

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<v Speaker 2>There, Joe, I think it's got a lot more potential

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<v Speaker 2>than maybe you might think, because I think Xavier league

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<v Speaker 2>get would be the first person to tell you that

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<v Speaker 2>he needed to catch a few more passes than he

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<v Speaker 2>did last year. But we saw some we saw some

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<v Speaker 2>positive things with him. We saw Bryce Young develop a

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<v Speaker 2>relatively positive relationship with Jalen Cocher right now, who obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>from from a fantasy football perspective, is uried right now,

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<v Speaker 2>but certainly to be somebody that Bryce Young could could

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<v Speaker 2>continue to develop a relationship with tet Tyroe McMillan we

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<v Speaker 2>had as the number one receiver in the draft, clus

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's gonna surprise anybody. I know there

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<v Speaker 2>were some out there, and this is a very popular comparison,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm not I'm not gonna say I'm coming up

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<v Speaker 2>with something unique, but a lot out there who actually

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<v Speaker 2>compared him favorably to Drake London. And honestly, I know

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<v Speaker 2>some people, including some on our staff, who liked him

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<v Speaker 2>better than Drake London coming out. So I think there's

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<v Speaker 2>an opportunity for tet Tyroea McMillan to really do some

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<v Speaker 2>good things. A guy I'm interested to see this year

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<v Speaker 2>is Jatavian Sanders. I want to see if Jatavian Sanders

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<v Speaker 2>can take a step forward because he has a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of ability, and sometimes it takes these tight ends a

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<v Speaker 2>number of years to really come into their own. I

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<v Speaker 2>know we've seen it in recent years with obviously Brock

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<v Speaker 2>Bauers and Sam Laporta, even the last couple of years,

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<v Speaker 2>rookies coming in and making immediate impacts at that position.

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<v Speaker 2>But those guys were first round draft picks. Sam Laporta

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<v Speaker 2>was an early second round draft pick. Jatavian Sanders was

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<v Speaker 2>a later draft pick than that. So he's got some

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<v Speaker 2>ability and I think the Panthers are doing the right thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's a hierarchy here. I think Adam

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<v Speaker 2>Zealen is going to start, by the way, just because

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<v Speaker 2>of the veteran And you mentioned his average separation score.

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<v Speaker 2>I was stammering a little bit because I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>look that up while we were on the air. We

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<v Speaker 2>do have a metric at Fantasy Points called average separation score.

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<v Speaker 2>It does have a cheeky and I unintended.

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<v Speaker 1>The shirts today voks, but figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>An one hundred or more routes run. Last year those

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<v Speaker 2>there were two hundred and sixty five of them we charted.

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Feeling was actually thirty second in average seven. Wow. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>he could still separate an elite level that's top ten

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<v Speaker 2>percent in leak. As a matter of fact, let me

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<v Speaker 2>let me give you a comparison. He was right behind Koukaakua,

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<v Speaker 2>he was tied with Tyreek Hill, and he was ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of these four names, all of whom are going really

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<v Speaker 2>early in fantasy football drafts, Courtland Sutton, Marvin Harrison, Garrett Wilson,

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<v Speaker 2>and Calvin Ridley. Yeah, so Adam Feeling is still a

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<v Speaker 2>master separator.

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<v Speaker 1>Good ass, right, there average separation score. I did Fantasy points.

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<v Speaker 1>Done's got a question for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Feeling would be the first to tell you that

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<v Speaker 2>it's not all athleticism. It's no how No, he still

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<v Speaker 2>knows how to get open. So I think they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to They're going to let him prove he can't play

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<v Speaker 2>until they put somebody on the field over here.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's still got just amazing ability to make these

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<v Speaker 1>acrobatic catches. I mean, he saw it last year with

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<v Speaker 1>Bryce in some of those games where there were near

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<v Speaker 1>miss is against great teams. Stealen was the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>that had the trust of the quarterback. We'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about a little bit about the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you mentioned the reference to Piladelphi Eagles a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit earlier. I think the Eagles are actually number

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<v Speaker 2>one on Bill Barnwell Blitz today. But we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>philad Up Eagles, and we know what an impressive season

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<v Speaker 2>they had and obviously the rookie defensive backs Queen and

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<v Speaker 2>Mitchell Cooper de Jean were a big reason for that.

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<v Speaker 2>There is documented video guys out there of Cooper de

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<v Speaker 2>Jean being asked Hey, when did you feel like you

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<v Speaker 2>were an NFL player? And he said, essentially, I'm paraphraking.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, yeah, when Adam Steel and ate me.

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<v Speaker 1>For lunch, Yes, exactly, I remember this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And he's the only don't look at the rookie

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<v Speaker 2>season Cooper degene had was incredible, you know, he was.

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<v Speaker 2>He's already one of the best slot forigners in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>But he he is on videos say yeah, Adam Feelin

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<v Speaker 2>kicked my ass and and that goes to show you

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<v Speaker 2>what Celing can still do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe uh speaking of, you know, being buried from a fantasy,

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<v Speaker 3>fantasy perspective, Let's talk Arthur Smith's tight ends.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he going to use them?

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<v Speaker 3>He's got nineteen of them, We talked, we had a

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<v Speaker 3>question of the day if you can clone eleven guys,

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<v Speaker 3>I think Arthur Smith's trying to have eleven tight ends

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<v Speaker 3>out on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>Throw you never utilized a single one anywhere but past catching.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you make of the the the Minca Jonu

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<v Speaker 3>Smith trade, the Jayleen Ramsey trade, and how do you

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<v Speaker 3>feel about Arthur Smith collecting these tight ends?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he gonna utilize them? This year because he's got

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers.

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<v Speaker 2>You know there is there is a time a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years ago when the John new Smith's file thing

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<v Speaker 2>was go down in Atlanta and the Bjohn Robinson Tyler

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<v Speaker 2>all to your brainless split of warkload, when I would

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<v Speaker 2>go out of my way to drive to ups for

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<v Speaker 2>other than go to I was not enriching the Smith's

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<v Speaker 2>family any more. But like I have to give Arthur

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<v Speaker 2>Smith some credit. He was onto something about John new

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<v Speaker 2>Smith used to be Kyle Pitt's. Yeah, because last year

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<v Speaker 2>it was evident Johnny Smith was a better football player.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing is with with Pittsburgh, Number one, you

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<v Speaker 2>expect Pittsburgh to be a little run heavier. But how

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<v Speaker 2>much influence is Aaron Rodgers gonna have you? The fact

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<v Speaker 2>that they traded for John new Smith suggests Arthur Smith

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<v Speaker 2>has significant influence here. But Aaron Rodgers is not going

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<v Speaker 2>to go out there and run the same offense Desmond

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<v Speaker 2>Ritter ran two years ago. It's just not going to

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<v Speaker 2>happen because that's Aaron Rodgers. Now. Aaron Rodgers might at

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<v Speaker 2>the stage of his career say I want to bolster

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<v Speaker 2>my Hall of Fame resume if I managed to drag

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<v Speaker 2>the Steelers team to the super Bowl. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>little bit to my coaches. I think there's an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>here for john new Smith to be second on this

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<v Speaker 2>team in targets behind obviously DK Meck get healthy, he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to leave the team in targets. But it was

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<v Speaker 2>the rare trade where we lost two fantasy viable sets

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<v Speaker 2>because Johnny Smith was getting drafted as a top ten

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<v Speaker 2>for fantasy. Those ADPs have just completely plummeted because nobody

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<v Speaker 2>much they're even going to throw the football in general.

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<v Speaker 2>So it becomes john and Smith is a really good

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<v Speaker 2>likes just because we know what Arthur Smith likes to do.

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<v Speaker 2>He likes to prove that he's smarter than everybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes he calls a nifty play. Other times you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>why is Tyler Alger in there? When Dejon Robinson is running.

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<v Speaker 2>Darnell Washington's there by the way, Guys like he's a

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<v Speaker 2>talented guy. Does he become somebody who gets used? It's

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<v Speaker 2>from a fantasy football perspective, this is one I want

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<v Speaker 2>to follow throughout training camp. Guys, I want to follow

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<v Speaker 1>So what happens We're talking to Joe Dolan here Fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>points dot Com. By the way, what happens with TJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Watt?

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<v Speaker 1>I know you tweeted out a couple of days ago,

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<v Speaker 1>Miles Garrett type of deal. Where are they at do

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I wonder if they're thought between a rock and

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<v Speaker 2>a hard place right now, I said, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>a Mile Garrett type extension would age well for t J. Watt,

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<v Speaker 2>But I think they're going to give it to him anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>And idea like he watscott leverage right now? Right he's

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<v Speaker 2>over thirty, he is some of his advanced mettrics like

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<v Speaker 2>of the elite guys, like he's more of a he

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<v Speaker 2>gets his sacks, but he finishes. But let's just say

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<v Speaker 2>he finishes a higher percentage of the plays he wins

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<v Speaker 2>that he wins plays like he's more of a sacker

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<v Speaker 2>than a disruptor. He's not out there constantly wreaking havoct

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<v Speaker 2>but when he does, he finishes the play. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little bit concerned about his production metrics. But look,

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<v Speaker 2>they brought in Aaron Rodgers, they traded for Johnny Smith,

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<v Speaker 2>they traded for DK Metcalf. This is not a team

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to be like, oh, you know what we're

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<v Speaker 2>building for the future here, man, we got t TJ. Watt.

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<v Speaker 2>While I can you know they trade Look, I think

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<v Speaker 2>because I think at this point, Jalen Ramsey's better football

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<v Speaker 2>player than MIKEA fits faster. They also traded a younger

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<v Speaker 2>player in MIKEA. Fitzpatrick for Jalen Ramsey, who's older than

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<v Speaker 2>Everything suggests here that they've kind of backed themselves into

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<v Speaker 2>a wall with TJ. Watt. TJ. Watt sees that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think EJ. Fott is going to become one of

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<v Speaker 2>the highest aed defensive players in football, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it'll get done before the season.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's Trey Hendrickson over in Cincinnati. We're also, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they went ahead just as a reinforcement, I guess, to

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<v Speaker 1>draft Shamar Stewart. He decides this is pretty cool. Why

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<v Speaker 1>this is pretty cool? I'm not reporting either. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like this contract, crap, your throw it at me. But

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<v Speaker 1>Hendrickson on the plus side of thirty obviously thirty one,

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<v Speaker 1>now I believe you'd be paying him on production, not

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<v Speaker 1>future projection. And that's the problem with what Hendrickson wants.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants Miles Garrett money. That to me, that's as

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<v Speaker 1>much of a red flag because he's had great production

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<v Speaker 1>in a very short window the past couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>But you never get faster and you never get better

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<v Speaker 1>the older you get, especially at that age. I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>worried if they gave him big money, and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>If they will, But guys, you cannot possibly you could

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<v Speaker 2>get anybody from anywhere who might not have never even

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<v Speaker 2>heard of the Cincinnati Bengals on this program in my spot,

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<v Speaker 2>and they would be just as good at projecting what

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<v Speaker 2>the Cincinnati Bengals are going to do. Money wise, because

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot tell you they don't have their first round

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<v Speaker 2>pick in camp. And look, I know what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>with the second round picks. I know obviously the language

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<v Speaker 2>in those contracts means virtually none of them are signed.

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<v Speaker 2>But Stuart I believe he is the only first rounder

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<v Speaker 2>who hasn't signed. He doesn't look anywhere close to signing.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they've done guys. I don't know. I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. And you know, Joe Burrow wants them to

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<v Speaker 2>pay everybody. Joe Burrow doesn't have an owner like Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 2>Laurie in Philadelphia who is willing to pay these dead

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<v Speaker 2>pack years to help keep a great team together. If

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<v Speaker 2>they signed Trey Henderson tomorrow, I wouldn't be shocked. If

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<v Speaker 2>they traded them tomorrow, I wouldn't be shocked. Cincinnati is

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<v Speaker 2>just one of those teams that the ownership is such

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<v Speaker 2>a wild card that it's hard to even talk about

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<v Speaker 2>from that regard.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally, Joe Dolan Fantasy points dot Com is our guest here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the most intriguing team right now, and again

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<v Speaker 1>this can change from week to week based on a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of factors, but the Vikings are fascinating. They are

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<v Speaker 1>stacked across the board on both sides of the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>They've improved that offensive line in the interior where it

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<v Speaker 1>was a mess last year. But the quarterback situation we

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<v Speaker 1>know is a huge question mark because we have not

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<v Speaker 1>seen this young quarterback J. M. McCarthy play a single

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<v Speaker 1>snap in the regular season. What do you make of

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<v Speaker 1>that situation? What are your expectations for that team? Could

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<v Speaker 1>it be that they could I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 1>bring Kirk Cousins back at trade deadline time, but what

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<v Speaker 1>if they come out of the gate at four and

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<v Speaker 1>five or five and five? Are they going to stay

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<v Speaker 1>the course with him? Because they're in a win now

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<v Speaker 1>mode with that roster.

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<v Speaker 2>Go tell you fantasy football fact first. J. J. McCarthy

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<v Speaker 2>is my most drafted quarterback right now in fantasy football

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<v Speaker 2>because look at what we have seen from the Kevin

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<v Speaker 2>O'Connell offense major Kirk Cousins a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember on Christmas Eve when Kirk Cousins was injured,

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<v Speaker 2>sitting here in my office watching I was on serious

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<v Speaker 2>sext time at the time, watching the Minnesota Vikings play

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<v Speaker 2>on Christmas Eve with Nick Mullins at quarterback. No, this

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<v Speaker 2>guy is throwing hot air balloons into the air. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it is just they are going up and they're

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<v Speaker 2>coming down and into defense fifty yards and played one

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<v Speaker 2>of the worst games I saw all year. So and

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<v Speaker 2>then we saw Sam Donald last year come in orlay

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<v Speaker 2>that into a hundred million dollar contract. Funny, there's some

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<v Speaker 2>funny money involved there, but still one hundred million dollar contract.

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<v Speaker 2>And we knew Sam Donald stunk, right. I know he

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<v Speaker 2>had a couple of moments with the Panthers, but as

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<v Speaker 2>has happened with Sam Donald faltered, well, we don't know

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<v Speaker 2>JJ McCarthy stinks. What if he doesn't. When I'm drafting

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<v Speaker 2>a quarterback like that, who's getting drafted at like quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen or seventeen, you want to start asking yourself, what

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<v Speaker 2>if something good happens? And something good has always happened

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<v Speaker 2>with Kevin O'Connell quarterback, and he has the addict of mobility.

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<v Speaker 2>We also have them projected to be one of the

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<v Speaker 2>past heaviest teams in the NFL. We have we have

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<v Speaker 2>j McCarthy in the top five and projected pass attempts

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<v Speaker 2>this year. So I'm going to be bullish on him.

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<v Speaker 2>What if he is good and if he is. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>they won thirteen games last year with Sam Donald. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, now there is some again talking about funny money.

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<v Speaker 2>There was some funny money going on there and that

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<v Speaker 2>got exposed. But there is a lot of talent on

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<v Speaker 2>this offense and the coaching staff that I truly believe in. Moreover,

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<v Speaker 2>JJ McCarthy is more mobile than Sam Donald. He is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be one of my most drafted quarterbacks. I

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<v Speaker 2>think his mobility opens up something in this offense that

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<v Speaker 2>neither Sam Donald nor especially Kirk Cousins could provide it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we might see Kevin O'Connell get into his

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<v Speaker 2>bag a little bit this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Well to see how it goes. Joe Dolan Fantasy Points

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com let us know, tease it all out for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Where can we find the work as we ramp up

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<v Speaker 1>to the start of the regular season, My friend, you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Find my work on Fantasy points dot com. But this week,

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<v Speaker 2>sorry guys, that allergy you've been getting to me a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more good. You can find me on Serious

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<v Speaker 2>XM Fantasy Sports Radio, which is Serious XM eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the only time you should tune away from this station.

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<v Speaker 2>That's way when you Listen to SERIX eighty seven from

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be doing that. He's allergic to Arthur Smith talk.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it is. It's it's not a bad case.

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<v Speaker 1>Gets some clarton for that bad case of Arthur Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>I you got there.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see it. Joe, What can Brown do for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Many by