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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Bluins Sider Dick Gabriel with your

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday edition of our program. No women's basketball tonight, as

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<v Speaker 1>the UK women Kenny Brooks's team doesn't play again until Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>so full so for you tonight. Sean Woods, the unforgettable

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<v Speaker 1>Guard and Gary maher R, West Coast Bureau Chief, West

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<v Speaker 1>End Bureau Chief now will join us. Usually they were

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<v Speaker 1>with us on Wednesdays, but we had all the statewide

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<v Speaker 1>shows last night, so they'll join us tonight, as will

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<v Speaker 1>John Wong, an author, a blogger, a sports writer who

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<v Speaker 1>asked it was a basic question but resulted in a

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting answer from Rachel Lost and you might have

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<v Speaker 1>heard or read about it since UK Softball Media Day

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday afternoon. So we'll talk to John about that. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>hear that comment here in just a minute by Rachel

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<v Speaker 1>the very fine Kentucky softball coach. But first up, Mark Pope,

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<v Speaker 1>his radio show last night is press conference today. The

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<v Speaker 1>theme was first of all, the latest on Lamont Butler.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to get him back in a position

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<v Speaker 2>where we have the best chance of not having another setback.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping that's where we are with Drew, where now

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<v Speaker 2>he can just grow his way back into the game.

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<v Speaker 3>And so.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't I don't exactly know what that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be. We're kind of taking in the data

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<v Speaker 2>every day as it comes and kind of making game

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<v Speaker 2>time decisions every day on what the next step is.

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<v Speaker 2>But he is going to be on the court in

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<v Speaker 2>a non contact situation today and we'll see how that feels.

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<v Speaker 1>Last night on our show, Aaron Gershan of the Cast

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<v Speaker 1>boss that he was hearing that Butler will miss one

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<v Speaker 1>more game and perhaps play on Tuesday. But with this

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder injury, obviously they got to make sure that when

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<v Speaker 1>they bring him back it's for the long haul. If

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<v Speaker 1>you bring him back too soon, you won't have him

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps at one hundred percent come tournament time. You got

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<v Speaker 1>to guard against that. But you got so any tough

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<v Speaker 1>games coming up, including the next one against the South

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina team that's really good on defense, not real good

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<v Speaker 1>on offense. But what is Kentucky's weakness? Of course we

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<v Speaker 1>know this. It is defense right now and that is

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<v Speaker 1>why the Wildcats are struggling. And Pope talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that, yeah, he knows Kentucky fans are hurting as

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<v Speaker 1>much as he is.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's super painful to be man. I did

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<v Speaker 2>my radio show last night and I had a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of callers in it. You can just feel the pain

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<v Speaker 2>and their heart, man, and their voice. You just feel

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<v Speaker 2>the pain. But it's the journey that we go on

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<v Speaker 2>together that's incredible, right, And it's not and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>always work out, you know, sometimes it just doesn't work out,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's never acceptable. But sometimes it doesn't work out,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why it is so incredibly intoxicating to be

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<v Speaker 2>a part of it, and it's why it's so fun

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<v Speaker 2>to be in the grind.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot more to that answer, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>like to see the entire news conference, go to YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>UK Sports Video.

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<v Speaker 4>It's on there.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, he talked about basically the fact, and

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<v Speaker 1>he touched on it there that yeah, this this stinks.

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<v Speaker 1>Losing hurts and they'd much rather be rolling along though

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<v Speaker 1>obviously the way they were early in the year, but

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<v Speaker 1>just he just appreciates so much being a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the process, coaching his team, coaching these guys, being back

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<v Speaker 1>with a BBN. It's tough though, and of course a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the comments as this thing was going up live.

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<v Speaker 1>We're pretty snarky by people that you know, obviously want

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<v Speaker 1>to see wins, but that's sports in general. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>imagine what it's going to be like during the Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl when things aren't exactly going your way or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Team is up.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh, like I said, go to YouTube UK Sports

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<v Speaker 1>video and Mark Pope's news conference from today. The entire

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<v Speaker 1>news conference is up there now. Rachel Lawson excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>spoke yesterday and our man John Wong brought up the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that she hadn't really talked about Oklahoma City. Like

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<v Speaker 1>with baseball, everything's Omaha softball, everything's Oklahoma City. That's the goal.

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<v Speaker 1>Get to the World Series. Got there in twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to go with them and do the radio

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<v Speaker 1>is incredible and they've taken runs at the World Series.

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<v Speaker 1>But of late, Kentucky Softball has been kind of a mid,

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the pack SEC, not a real contender. John

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<v Speaker 1>much on media day. Does that mean expectations have been lower?

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<v Speaker 1>And Rachel said absolutely not, And in fact, she said

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<v Speaker 1>I expect this team to be better than last year's

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<v Speaker 1>even though there are a ton of new faces because

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<v Speaker 1>she's changing the way that she is coaching. And she

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<v Speaker 1>admitted in her mind over the last few years, three

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<v Speaker 1>or four, she's done a poor job.

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<v Speaker 5>Last couple of years, I think I've done a very

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<v Speaker 5>poor job coaching. A couple of years. I think I've

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<v Speaker 5>done a very poor job coaching. And like past the

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<v Speaker 5>COVID era and the reason I think I've done a

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<v Speaker 1>And right about here she started to choke up and

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<v Speaker 1>get emotional and kind of checked out a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>emotionally for a few moments.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I suck.

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<v Speaker 1>That was one of her assistants in the back of

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<v Speaker 1>the room, trying to lend a little bit of emotional support,

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<v Speaker 1>lost and finally pulled it together.

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<v Speaker 6>It's really hard.

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<v Speaker 5>To be loyal in today's day and age.

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<v Speaker 7>So in my attempt to stay loyal to the people

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<v Speaker 7>I recruited, I took the team, took a step back.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm no longer going to be that girl, So I

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<v Speaker 7>had to change.

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<v Speaker 5>So with that, s said, I had to figure out

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<v Speaker 5>number one that my loyalty is to the Big Blue Nation.

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<v Speaker 5>My loyalty is to the University of Kentucky, and I

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<v Speaker 5>have to make sure that I set the standards at

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<v Speaker 5>this level, and any player who wants to live up

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<v Speaker 5>to that standard is great. But there were players that

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<v Speaker 5>I was allowing to live under the standard. They were

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<v Speaker 5>being entirely too selfish. And last year you really saw

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<v Speaker 5>it come to head because I tried to make it

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<v Speaker 5>mix and I couldn't. So I had young, really talented

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<v Speaker 5>players who are bigger, stronger, faster, who probably should have

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<v Speaker 5>been in the lineup all the time. And then I

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<v Speaker 5>had the older players that I was trying to be

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<v Speaker 5>loyal to and it just wasn't working. And to be

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<v Speaker 5>honest with you, nobody understands the deeply flex role, so

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<v Speaker 5>the older players just thought I was messing with them

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<v Speaker 5>the entire time, where in softball you have a little

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<v Speaker 5>more flexibility to be a little more creative. In my

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<v Speaker 5>attempt to be creative and to make it all work

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<v Speaker 5>to be loyal at the same time as to try

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<v Speaker 5>to grow the program and keep up with the super teams,

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<v Speaker 5>I did a really bad job.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I got to tell you, I really like Rachel

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<v Speaker 1>lost In a lot as a person and as a coach.

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<v Speaker 4>I think she's tremendous.

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<v Speaker 1>And I got to tell you, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people have said that that was one of the great

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<v Speaker 1>answers you'll ever hear a coach give. There are coaches

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<v Speaker 1>who will admit to making mistakes, yes, but to go

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<v Speaker 1>into it in such great depth and explain why and

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<v Speaker 1>how she made mistakes. I mean, she and I had

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<v Speaker 1>conversations a couple times after the College World Series. They

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<v Speaker 1>lost a game that they shouldn't have lost because she

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<v Speaker 1>said she stayed with her starting pitcher too long. But

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<v Speaker 1>she had conveniently, in my mind, forgotten the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>one of her infielders booted a play that you make

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine times out of one hundred. I could have

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<v Speaker 1>made the play. It was routine, and if the young

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<v Speaker 1>lady makes the play, Kentucky wins the game. But Rachel

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see it that way. She believes she had blown

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<v Speaker 1>it by over using her pitcher, her starting pitcher, so

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<v Speaker 1>she's not averse to accepting blame, but the way she

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<v Speaker 1>did it in this instance, and yeah, it took off.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this is my first chance to talk.

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<v Speaker 4>About it tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>It happened yesterday and boy quickly made the rounds on

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<v Speaker 1>social media. But imagine a coach standing in and talking

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<v Speaker 1>about in this day and age being too loyal, and

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind, this doesn't have anything to.

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<v Speaker 4>Do with the nil.

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<v Speaker 1>As she put it, these were highly rated players who

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<v Speaker 1>really weren't performing as well as they should have been

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<v Speaker 1>with other people behind them who were pushing them. And

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<v Speaker 1>think about the times Marktroops has talked about recruiting players

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<v Speaker 1>as good as you can get and then going out

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to replace them, trying to recruit over them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what great coaches do. They have to do that

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<v Speaker 1>or else they build no depth. Somebody gets hurt, who

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<v Speaker 1>do you turn to? This kid can't play. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>to have somebody ready to go who's pushing them and

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<v Speaker 1>capable of stepping in. And if they take their job,

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<v Speaker 1>they take their job. That's how you get better. And

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was a remarkable answer by Rachel Lawson.

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<v Speaker 1>So they start play this weekend. We'll talk more about

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<v Speaker 1>it tomorrow night. But up next a former basketball wo

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<v Speaker 1>okay with an incredible night on six thirty WLAP Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Big Moon Sider. Coming up at the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of the hour, Sean Woods, the unforgettable guard. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk I know about Kentucky defense. He is all about

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<v Speaker 1>that defense. As Sean was a really, really fine defender

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<v Speaker 1>at the point guard's spot, and we all know how

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky is lacking that right now in general, and with

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<v Speaker 1>Lamont Butler being out. John Wong of Wong's Whinings will

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<v Speaker 1>join us in our number two to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>SoundBite you heard earlier with Rachel Lawson breaking things down

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<v Speaker 1>on a personal level for those of us at media

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<v Speaker 1>day yesterday. Also our West ENDBUA chief Gary Moorehe and

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<v Speaker 1>Sean are usually with us on Wednesday, but at the

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<v Speaker 1>state wide show last night, so tonight we will get

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<v Speaker 1>caught up with them. Because there is no UK women's basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, they play on Monday. They've got the entire

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<v Speaker 1>it's like an eight day stretch where they're off. It's

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<v Speaker 1>there bye week basically. So that's why we're with you

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<v Speaker 1>tonight with a full show. And again we've talked a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about through the weeks, and I'm sure even if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not an NBA fan, you've heard about former Wild

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<v Speaker 1>Kate Anthony Davis being traded to the Dallas Mavericks. And

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<v Speaker 1>at one point I want to give my buddy Chuck Coopersteen,

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<v Speaker 1>who was the voice Cinemavericks, get him on with us

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<v Speaker 1>because that was a huge trade, not the biggest in history,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was huge. But here comes the second part

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<v Speaker 1>of that story. Now makes a little more sense. The

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers have traded for a guy named Mark Williams. And

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<v Speaker 1>I do like the NBA. I don't follow it a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to when I lived in Dallas, but I

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<v Speaker 1>follow a lot of college basketball. I have to admit

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't remember this guy. He played at Duke, and

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<v Speaker 1>he played on a Duke national championship team. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good player, quite frankly, and getting better in

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA, as most big guys do. He's a seven

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<v Speaker 1>footer with a wing span of somebody who is seven

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<v Speaker 1>to seven. And he's no stranger to double doubles. He's

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<v Speaker 1>averaged more than twelve and a half points, so they

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<v Speaker 1>makes more sense, doesn't it. So lots going on in

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA. One of the great headlines from last night

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<v Speaker 1>was Shay Gildess Alexander, another former Wildcat, making news. And

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<v Speaker 1>even if you're not an NBA fan, but you just

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<v Speaker 1>keep an eye on sports, you've heard his name all year.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty points again for Shay. And I say this because

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<v Speaker 1>he scored fifty or more three times this year, all

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<v Speaker 1>coming within the last seven games in the past fifteen days.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, three fifty point games and get this this

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<v Speaker 1>and he did it against Phoenix. They're terrible, and they've

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<v Speaker 1>Devin Booker obviously, Gilgis. Alexander outscored the Suns thirty seven

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<v Speaker 1>to thirty four, beginning at the six thirty six market

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<v Speaker 1>quarter seventeen of twenty seven off the dribble, ten of

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen on contested attempts. According to ESPN, that seven game

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<v Speaker 1>span is the shortest by a player who recorded the

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<v Speaker 1>first three fifty point games in his career. He'd never

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<v Speaker 1>done it up until now, and only eight others have

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<v Speaker 1>scored fifty three times over seven games in NBA history.

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<v Speaker 1>And you'll know these names, Kareem alb Dul Jabbar, Elgin Baylor,

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<v Speaker 1>Kobe Bryant, Wilt Chamberlain, Luka Donsich, James Harden, Michael Jordan,

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<v Speaker 1>was here, rode the bench for a little while, played

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<v Speaker 1>but didn't start, and then Caliperi began to put him

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<v Speaker 1>in the starting lineup and good things happened. Amazing good

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<v Speaker 1>guy too, at least from what I remember. While we're

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<v Speaker 1>on basketball, bad news for U of L. I know

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<v Speaker 1>for some of you that's good news, But if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a U of L fan, chucky Hepburn out last night,

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<v Speaker 1>left the game, then went over Boston College eighty four

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<v Speaker 1>to fifty eight, and Louisvill's got it going not playing

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<v Speaker 1>the schedule. I know that Kentucky is, but based on

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<v Speaker 1>what they've been through the last couple of years, they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted eighty four to fifty. But hepburn left about midway

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<v Speaker 1>through the game and they won ten straight. Now they're

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen and six ten and two in the acc but

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<v Speaker 1>this occurred in the second half, with about fifteen fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>to play, he went up for a layup and according

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<v Speaker 1>to Jody Demling's story, on two four to seven sports

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<v Speaker 1>grabbed his groin area after he landed. Notes contact with

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<v Speaker 1>other players, and of course the U L people are saying,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll know more tomorrow, which is today, so by the

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<v Speaker 1>time you hear this, they may have more information.

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<v Speaker 4>But he is the guy. He's there.

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<v Speaker 1>Lamont Butler makes things go for U of L. So

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<v Speaker 1>you hate to hear that, and played well against Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought Kentucky held him in check fairly.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>You know those guys who were robbing or burglarizing the

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<v Speaker 1>homes of NFL players, including Joe Burrow. Three indictments. They

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<v Speaker 1>arrested two in and around Manhattan's Diamond District. They arrested

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of guys and were charged with conspiracy to

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<v Speaker 1>receive stolen property part of an alleged fencing operation. And

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<v Speaker 1>these were tied to South American theft groups who were

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<v Speaker 1>making all this happen, and the suspects allegedly bought stolen

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<v Speaker 1>property from Brian Leandro Herrera Maldonado, who apparently is accused

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<v Speaker 1>of committing sixteen residential robberies across the US from twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen to twenty twenty. So cops have the Feds for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, but local as well have done a

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<v Speaker 1>good job on this. They've been chasing these guys for

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<v Speaker 1>five years.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl coming up to me, one of the bigger headlines,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe bigger than anything that's come out of New Orleans

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<v Speaker 1>pre Super Bowl is Cooper Cup tweeted that the Rams

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<v Speaker 1>are going to move him, They're going to trade him,

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of him. I mean, this guy is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best receivers in the NFL. He's been dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with injuries, but he's the best receiver at least he

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<v Speaker 1>has been that the Rams have.

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<v Speaker 4>But it all comes back to contracts.

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<v Speaker 1>And every time there's a story like this, you can

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<v Speaker 1>bet on that Cup schedule to make twenty million bucks,

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<v Speaker 1>five million guaranteed, seven and a half million paid as

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<v Speaker 1>part of a roster bonus. So they'd love to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of him and have somebody else have to pay that.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's been described he is on the wrong side

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<v Speaker 1>of thirty. That's an NFL analyst saying that with injury

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<v Speaker 1>issues and actually he may not be the best receiver

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<v Speaker 1>on his own team anymore. Who kin Nakua perhaps is

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<v Speaker 1>the best butt man. When the Rams were rolling, it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like every time they needed a first down, every

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<v Speaker 1>time they needed a big play, it was Cooper Cup.

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<v Speaker 1>So your favorite team may end up getting him, but

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<v Speaker 1>if they do, they're going to have to pay up next.

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Woods get able guard here on six thirty w

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<v Speaker 1>as he does each and every week, is the unforgettable guard.

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Woods, his jersey hangs and the rafters of rupp

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<v Speaker 1>and he has been keeping an eye on the Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody else has. And Coach, it's amazing that the

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<v Speaker 1>hot topic for the last couple of weeks now has

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<v Speaker 1>been defense. That's your wheelhouse, and of course not having

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<v Speaker 1>a defender on the point who's strong with the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>which sounds familiar, that's you has really had quite the

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<v Speaker 1>adverse effect on this team. But I think we're all

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<v Speaker 1>surprised to just how badly it's it's unfolded over the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Am I right, defensees will defenses is effort. But defense,

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<v Speaker 3>also from a team standpoint, has to be part of

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<v Speaker 3>your culture. And right now, the only knock I have

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<v Speaker 3>against Mark Pope is his culture. From a defensive standpoint,

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<v Speaker 3>there is not because you can even even if if

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<v Speaker 3>defense is your culture and you got a subpar athlete

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<v Speaker 3>who's not as quick latterly or whatever, he still would

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<v Speaker 3>be better and would give you more effort than what

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<v Speaker 3>our guys, some of our guys are giving us on

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<v Speaker 3>the court. But with that being said, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a want to, it's a will, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>these guys and that's the most disappointing factor that's glaring

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<v Speaker 3>so much is the effort, like not even trying. Like

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<v Speaker 3>we got guys that are giving Blne angles to the basket.

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<v Speaker 3>No coach teaches that. You know, you got a few

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<v Speaker 3>seconds left to go on the shot clock and you

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that's unacceptable. And me as a coach, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you recruit to you to your strengths and what you

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<v Speaker 3>like in a player, and me you could be a

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<v Speaker 3>prolific scorer, but if you soft and don't like to

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<v Speaker 3>compete on defense, you're good enough to get me beat

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what's happening now. You know, you take you

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<v Speaker 3>take the probably the best defensive point guard off your team,

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<v Speaker 3>who literally you know, if there's an MVP in the

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<v Speaker 3>SEC and the MVP is supposed to be you know

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<v Speaker 3>what you mean to your team and the success that

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<v Speaker 3>you have on your team. Lamar Butler is the MVP

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<v Speaker 3>of the SEC.

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<v Speaker 4>It's yeah, because.

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<v Speaker 3>When he's in the game, Kentucky is the one is

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<v Speaker 3>probably the best team in it or one of the

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<v Speaker 3>top two or three teams in the in the SEC.

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<v Speaker 3>When he's not, they may be the worst team in

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<v Speaker 3>the SEC or at the bottom half of the SEC,

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<v Speaker 3>which they are right now. That's how much he means

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<v Speaker 3>to his team. But unfortunately, and pretty much, I just

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<v Speaker 3>don't like the tone defensively, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't like the tone as a team defensively.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like the fact that you got to score

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred points or ninety some points just to have

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<v Speaker 3>a chance to win a game. That's not championship DNA.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great entertainment basketball, but that's not winning basketball in

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<v Speaker 3>the long run, because if you don't defend, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>the weakest part of your game. It's hard to put

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<v Speaker 3>three four games in a row again because you're not

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<v Speaker 3>going to shoot great three four games in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard Jack Gibbons talking to Tom Leachs this morning

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<v Speaker 1>and he said it as much on the radio broadcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think everybody probably knows this, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it holds true for every sport. You gotta really want

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<v Speaker 1>to play defense. You got to just have that desire,

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<v Speaker 1>because Jack said, you know, you just got to get dirty.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe from where these guys had been playing before,

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<v Speaker 1>clearly they haven't faced the level of athleticism they're saying

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<v Speaker 1>now in the SEC. But other than LaMotte and Amari Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>who is in a mid major conference, let's let's face it,

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<v Speaker 1>they were really called upon to play defense at this.

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<v Speaker 4>Level, were they?

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<v Speaker 8>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I think Mary Williams is a competitor but here and

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<v Speaker 3>he's tough. But sometimes, you know, you get mid major

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<v Speaker 3>guys who have mid major mentalities, if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>There's levels to this, not just physically but mentally. And

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<v Speaker 3>the reason why some guys aren't high major players is

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<v Speaker 3>because they don't have high major IQs. Sometimes and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not knocking Wins because he's a warrior and a beast,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, you got to have high major instincts, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>at times, and I think that's where we You know,

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<v Speaker 3>when you get a bunch of mind mays, you're getting

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of men major guys, you're not there's a

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<v Speaker 3>reason why they didn't get recruited high major and now

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<v Speaker 3>you because they were pretty good at the men major level.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you ask them to come up and be a

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<v Speaker 3>complete high major guy. That's unrealistic. And if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have a lot of other guys or more high major

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<v Speaker 3>guys around you, you get kind of exposed a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what's happening right now. You know, Lamont Butler

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<v Speaker 3>is probably the most experienced point guard in the country

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<v Speaker 3>because he's the only point guard in the country that's

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<v Speaker 3>back that was at the Turn Florida that techn me

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<v Speaker 3>into the Firm four last year. So he steps he

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<v Speaker 3>steps above pretty much everybody on this team. That's why

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<v Speaker 3>he sticks out like a sore thumb on our team

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<v Speaker 3>because he's grind it enough to get to the mountaintop.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody else on his team has been to a Final four,

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<v Speaker 3>not even close. So his warrior mentality is he's been

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<v Speaker 3>there before. He knows what it takes. Nobody on our

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<v Speaker 3>team has been to that level, not even close to

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<v Speaker 3>that level. So that's why he's so important to not

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<v Speaker 3>only Kentucky, but that's why he's probably the toughest and

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<v Speaker 3>most relentless point guard in the SEC to me. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's why he's so important, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>So but from here on out, if me, if that's me,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is what's keeping me from being good, I've

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<v Speaker 3>never let this happen again. I got to get to

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<v Speaker 3>Lamar Buters. Some times you gotta have three point guards

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<v Speaker 3>on the team, and if they're not, they can maybe

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<v Speaker 3>shoot the basketball do some things, but if they can't

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<v Speaker 3>defend at this level, they're only gonna be good enough

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<v Speaker 3>to get you beat. And that's what's happening right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and their backups hurt as well. I mean, it

421
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<v Speaker 1>couldn't have it couldn't have turned more poorly for the Wildcats.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, Now you know you've got Kentucky coming out

423
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<v Speaker 1>kind of flat or not kind of flat. They were

424
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<v Speaker 1>definitely flat down there at all, miss And I know

425
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<v Speaker 1>Pope has tried to zone did you play much zone

426
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<v Speaker 1>at all? I can't imagine. Well, maybe you did as

427
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<v Speaker 1>a head coach.

428
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<v Speaker 3>No, I didn't. I did not. I switched one through five,

429
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<v Speaker 3>which people are doing now to Kentucky. I did that.

430
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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying. I never ever got caught,

431
00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:16.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, because I had to coach against Rick Bird,

432
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<v Speaker 3>who's one of the most dynamic coaches in America at

433
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<v Speaker 3>that time at Belmont, and it took me a year

434
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<v Speaker 3>or so to get used to coaching against that type

435
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<v Speaker 3>of action. So I worked for Ronnie Errow who taught

436
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<v Speaker 3>me about switching, and I didn't like it at first,

437
00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:35.519
<v Speaker 3>but man, I loved it once I became a head coach.

438
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<v Speaker 4>You explained the benefit of that, Sean.

439
00:25:39.599 --> 00:25:44.279
<v Speaker 3>Well, from when you're switching, okay, you're always everywhere that

440
00:25:44.359 --> 00:25:46.920
<v Speaker 3>ball goes, somebody's gonna be there on the ball. Okay,

441
00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:51.200
<v Speaker 3>when you're switching, especially with ball screen actions, people say, okay,

442
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:53.440
<v Speaker 3>we don't want to get our point guard get caught

443
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<v Speaker 3>on a big Well, the game has changed so much

444
00:25:56.799 --> 00:25:59.599
<v Speaker 3>because everybody's trying to shoot threes. They run places to

445
00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:02.519
<v Speaker 3>get three off. So if I'm switching up, you're not

446
00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:05.200
<v Speaker 3>getting that three. Now I'm gonna take you. I'm gonna

447
00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:08.440
<v Speaker 3>make you take tough twos. But I'm never out of position.

448
00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:12.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm never ever getting caught those screens on down screens,

449
00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:18.279
<v Speaker 3>floor screens. I'm switching everything, staggers. I'm just just tattling up.

450
00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:20.480
<v Speaker 3>Boom boom, just just just you know, it's almost like

451
00:26:20.519 --> 00:26:23.000
<v Speaker 3>tag team. He comes off that screen. I got him,

452
00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:25.799
<v Speaker 3>then the next person got him. You know, so nobody's

453
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<v Speaker 3>ever opened. And that's what's giving Kentucky problems. That's what

454
00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:33.880
<v Speaker 3>gave me. That's why Arkansas beat Kentucky. They switched everything. Yeah,

455
00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:36.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, that's what happened the other night. All you

456
00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:38.880
<v Speaker 3>got to do is switch against that stuff. And now

457
00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:40.960
<v Speaker 3>they're having a hard time. They can't get thirty threes

458
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<v Speaker 3>off anymore.

459
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<v Speaker 1>You guys give that much. When Patino was here, did.

460
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<v Speaker 3>You no, we didn't switch at all? No, no, no,

461
00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:52.440
<v Speaker 3>very seldom did we switch unless it was four or five.

462
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<v Speaker 3>But we didn't switch once. You know what I'm saying,

463
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<v Speaker 3>we didn't. I had this, you know, the old Bob

464
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<v Speaker 3>n ideal. You know a lot of people won't switching

465
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<v Speaker 3>back then. You know, it's tough it up and get

466
00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:05.000
<v Speaker 3>through the screen. Now kids are so soft. They don't

467
00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:08.359
<v Speaker 3>want to you know. And look, here's the deal. That's

468
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:10.920
<v Speaker 3>what's hurting them Butler right now because he's trying to

469
00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:13.640
<v Speaker 3>get over those screens guarding that ball and he keeps

470
00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:16.839
<v Speaker 3>jamming that shoulder. Why make it? Why make it tough.

471
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:20.680
<v Speaker 3>I'd rather make it easy for my team to be

472
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<v Speaker 3>successful and then let my pride in it says you

473
00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:27.440
<v Speaker 3>want to get through that screen, You get to that screen. No, no, no, no, no.

474
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<v Speaker 3>Just simplify the game because it's it's positionless basketball now.

475
00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:36.359
<v Speaker 3>Guys are so long in athletic A big pretty much

476
00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:39.920
<v Speaker 3>is decent enough to guard to guard. Yeah, yeah, So

477
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:42.920
<v Speaker 3>it's making the biggest calling the guard out there. Everybody's

478
00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:45.720
<v Speaker 3>up in the gaps and you make him go side

479
00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:47.720
<v Speaker 3>to side. You just don't give b line drives.

480
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<v Speaker 1>Got to watch for that, Sean Woods, is my guess.

481
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<v Speaker 1>We'll come back and talk more with the unforgettable guard

482
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<v Speaker 1>here in a moment on the Big Bloon Sider six

483
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<v Speaker 1>thirty WLAP.

484
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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back. We're talking with Sean Woods.

485
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<v Speaker 1>As we do each and every week as Jersey hangs

486
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<v Speaker 1>in the rafters of rupp as one of the unforgettables

487
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:05.640
<v Speaker 1>and of course we're talking about Kentucky defense or lack

488
00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:08.960
<v Speaker 1>of saying, because well that was so evident against a

489
00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:12.400
<v Speaker 1>miss which you know, Sean, they had kids throwing in

490
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:15.880
<v Speaker 1>three pointers, guys who ordinarily don't make three pointers at

491
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:20.200
<v Speaker 1>that kind of rate. But the defense was soft or

492
00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:24.240
<v Speaker 1>times non existent. They're wide open and practically every kill

493
00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:26.559
<v Speaker 1>and every college roster can hit an open three.

494
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<v Speaker 3>Right exactly, you know against our defense that you know

495
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:35.119
<v Speaker 3>people are on darts, you know, they're just there's no pressure,

496
00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:39.000
<v Speaker 3>there's you know what I'm saying, so it you know.

497
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<v Speaker 3>And and then now everybody in the in the country

498
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.400
<v Speaker 3>who they're playing, specially SEC, that's the their mo. So

499
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:47.039
<v Speaker 3>what they're gonna do, they're gonna put their head down

500
00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:49.519
<v Speaker 3>and just drives. So these dudes a soft defensively. They

501
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:52.400
<v Speaker 3>don't want to guard one o one, take that extra dribble,

502
00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:56.400
<v Speaker 3>they'll give up. And then they're so worried about you

503
00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:59.559
<v Speaker 3>driving them, so they are soft in their cover, especially

504
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:03.119
<v Speaker 3>guarding the all that they're giving you enough space without

505
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:04.720
<v Speaker 3>resistance to shoot threes.

506
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<v Speaker 1>And now you've got South Carolina coming in, which is hungry,

507
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:12.240
<v Speaker 1>is all outdoors who's hungry, and.

508
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:14.319
<v Speaker 3>They watched they're watching film too.

509
00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:16.720
<v Speaker 4>That's right, that's right, and they.

510
00:29:16.599 --> 00:29:19.400
<v Speaker 3>Know that Lamon Butler's not out there to give them problems.

511
00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:23.559
<v Speaker 3>Shoot me a fifty five. I think I can get

512
00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:25.319
<v Speaker 3>buy a couple of them dudes right about.

513
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:27.319
<v Speaker 2>The way they go.

514
00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:30.640
<v Speaker 1>They got nothing to lose. And we've seen teams play

515
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>like that.

516
00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:33.960
<v Speaker 3>Well you got defensively, when you've got guys that are

517
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:38.160
<v Speaker 3>great on ball defenders, there's got to be a connection.

518
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:40.400
<v Speaker 3>You know, you got to go back to the Tubby Smithson,

519
00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:43.559
<v Speaker 3>the coach Patinos about fe line basketball. You know, like

520
00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:47.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, up the gaps, you're not not giving gaps.

521
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:50.519
<v Speaker 3>Our defense is not even connected. So you're on the

522
00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:54.079
<v Speaker 3>island by yourself like like we're almost playing like it's

523
00:29:54.200 --> 00:29:56.480
<v Speaker 3>it's a legal defense out there. No, there's no help

524
00:29:56.559 --> 00:29:59.640
<v Speaker 3>side ever, you know, there's no ever, not ever. When

525
00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:01.880
<v Speaker 3>you when a guy drives to the basket from the wing,

526
00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:04.440
<v Speaker 3>he gets buyas man, there's no help side. It's supposed to.

527
00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:06.119
<v Speaker 4>Be a guy in the midline.

528
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:09.039
<v Speaker 3>We don't have that. That means we're not working on it.

529
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:12.240
<v Speaker 3>We gotta work on defense. This has got to be evident.

530
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:14.599
<v Speaker 3>I know we want to be a prolific offensive team.

531
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.319
<v Speaker 3>Score a lot of points. Well, look where it's getting

532
00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:19.839
<v Speaker 3>this right now. And every time that my butler goes

533
00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:21.960
<v Speaker 3>out the game, when he was in the game, that's

534
00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:25.400
<v Speaker 3>when teams really got their runs. He can't play forty

535
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:27.960
<v Speaker 3>minutes his body, you're not going to let them. So

536
00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:29.839
<v Speaker 3>you got to have something else. You got to have

537
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:34.400
<v Speaker 3>team defense. You got to have team defensive principles. And

538
00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:37.839
<v Speaker 3>right now I don't see team defensive principles. I just

539
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:41.000
<v Speaker 3>see a bunch of guys that are quick latterly who

540
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:45.839
<v Speaker 3>really doesn't have defensive DNA inside them, because evidently it's

541
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.000
<v Speaker 3>not what they're doing every single day, and it's not

542
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:52.720
<v Speaker 3>demanded now, it's evident it's come to fruition as far

543
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:55.839
<v Speaker 3>as a weakness. Now everybody's talking about it. Well, if

544
00:30:55.839 --> 00:31:00.440
<v Speaker 3>you just start doing this day one in June, especially

545
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:04.960
<v Speaker 3>when camp starts in October whatever, it's too late to

546
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:07.079
<v Speaker 3>do it now. You mentioned you know now you want

547
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:10.559
<v Speaker 3>to wait to Jackson Robinson his last year, and you're

548
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:12.640
<v Speaker 3>gonna say, Jackson Robinson, you got to play defense, man,

549
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:15.519
<v Speaker 3>you got to sit down and guard. Well, Jackson Robinson's

550
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:17.440
<v Speaker 3>looking at you like, well, yeah, I've never had to

551
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:19.880
<v Speaker 3>do this before, and we were you know, you know

552
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:22.759
<v Speaker 3>in the guy from Dayton, he won't play defense at all,

553
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:24.880
<v Speaker 3>and that's the reason why he's one of the most

554
00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:27.559
<v Speaker 3>prolific scores in college basketball. But you can't play more

555
00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:30.599
<v Speaker 3>than twenty minutes because of how he defends.

556
00:31:31.079 --> 00:31:34.400
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Bob Knight a minute ago, and then coincidentally enough,

557
00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>the seventy five team is having its reunion, the team

558
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>that went to the final four. And I've said Indiana

559
00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:45.799
<v Speaker 1>in that regional final, and one of the key elements

560
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:47.759
<v Speaker 1>and they love telling this story and I've heard it.

561
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>You've probably heard it one hundred times, is that Joe

562
00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Hall used to be infuriated by the fact that he

563
00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:59.519
<v Speaker 1>said Bob Knight's offense was predicated on illegal moving screens

564
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>that the officials just wouldn't call. There either buffaloed by

565
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:06.319
<v Speaker 1>Bob Knight or they happen so often they just didn't

566
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>call them all.

567
00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:08.839
<v Speaker 4>And Joe b going.

568
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Into that regional final told the first thing they worked

569
00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:15.039
<v Speaker 1>on in practice is driving right through them. So the

570
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.519
<v Speaker 1>first time they throw up one of those screens, I

571
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:19.079
<v Speaker 1>want you to go right through it.

572
00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:22.480
<v Speaker 4>They might call a foul, and sure enough, Bob Guyett.

573
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Knock some guy over a few seconds into the game

574
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:28.119
<v Speaker 1>and got called for a foul. But once they started

575
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:32.000
<v Speaker 1>beating up on those moving screens, that stuff stopped and

576
00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:36.039
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky turned things around it and pulled the upset. That's

577
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:39.359
<v Speaker 1>That's an amazing mindset, isn't It says a lot about

578
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Joe B, doesn't it.

579
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<v Speaker 3>Well, Joe B had a tough mindset, and because he

580
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:48.359
<v Speaker 3>had a tough mindset, that's what his players hid. You

581
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:51.799
<v Speaker 3>only you're going to have the same mindset as your coach. Yeah,

582
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:54.319
<v Speaker 3>if your coach is a bulldog, then you're going to

583
00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:57.759
<v Speaker 3>be a bulldog because that's what he's driving every single day.

584
00:32:57.920 --> 00:32:59.880
<v Speaker 3>You know, if you're not a bulldog and your team's

585
00:32:59.880 --> 00:33:03.359
<v Speaker 3>not gonna be a bulldog basketball team, it's part. It's

586
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:07.799
<v Speaker 3>whatever your culture is. You go to Connecticut, he's a bulldog.

587
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:11.279
<v Speaker 3>His tough. His teams are tough defensively. You go to Houston,

588
00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:14.000
<v Speaker 3>his teams are tough defensively. I'm telling you right now,

589
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:16.200
<v Speaker 3>the most impressive team in college basketball is the Saint

590
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:21.960
<v Speaker 3>John Redman. You're talking about some dogs, huh yeah.

591
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:22.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

592
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:26.720
<v Speaker 3>And and Mark Polpe knows how coach Patino gets down now,

593
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.799
<v Speaker 3>and that's that's where you know it's okay to be nice.

594
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:34.160
<v Speaker 3>I get that. And and Mark's he's a great coach.

595
00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:37.160
<v Speaker 3>It's workie a little bit. But at the end of

596
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:40.759
<v Speaker 3>the day, to be at to get to Mount Rushmore,

597
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:44.640
<v Speaker 3>you gotta make your team uncomfortable in some type of

598
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:48.720
<v Speaker 3>way on a regular basis. So when those episodes occur,

599
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:52.599
<v Speaker 3>you got that fight through. You've been through it because

600
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:55.319
<v Speaker 3>this is what you do every day in practice. When

601
00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:58.160
<v Speaker 3>we get it hit in the mouth here lately we're

602
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:00.480
<v Speaker 3>getting when we get beat, we get beat bad.

603
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:02.559
<v Speaker 4>Ye, you gotta get you gotta punch back.

604
00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what the last night on his show,

605
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:08.840
<v Speaker 1>he talked about some furniture being destroyed perhaps at a halftime,

606
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:11.199
<v Speaker 1>and he had cut on his hand when he came

607
00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:14.760
<v Speaker 1>out for the second half. So, uh, maybe maybe there

608
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:18.039
<v Speaker 1>is some of that fire uh in the locker room

609
00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:19.679
<v Speaker 1>that his team needs to see.

610
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:23.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you know what I'm saying, don't wait to

611
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:27.159
<v Speaker 3>don't wait till the house catches on fire to put

612
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:31.159
<v Speaker 3>water on it. You know That's what I'm saying. Now

613
00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:35.000
<v Speaker 3>he knows I think now, Okay, he was trying to

614
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:37.880
<v Speaker 3>please everyone. He's trying to come in with a different outlook.

615
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:41.239
<v Speaker 3>You know, everybody saying the game has changed. You can't

616
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:44.119
<v Speaker 3>coach these kids like he used to. Bah blah blah

617
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:47.920
<v Speaker 3>blah blah. Rick Partino has not changed. What he has done.

618
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:50.840
<v Speaker 3>What you have to do is you have to communicate

619
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:55.119
<v Speaker 3>with these kids more often off the court, so and

620
00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:57.639
<v Speaker 3>and and establish more of a trust instead of just

621
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:00.599
<v Speaker 3>meeting them on the court. And in practice. You know,

622
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:02.800
<v Speaker 3>you see him in passing. You know, you may have

623
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:05.440
<v Speaker 3>a meeting or two, but you got to really get

624
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:08.400
<v Speaker 3>to know these kids and make them understand you and

625
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:10.880
<v Speaker 3>what you're trying to get across. So when it does

626
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:15.559
<v Speaker 3>get heated, it's not as extravagant as it would be

627
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<v Speaker 3>if they don't trust. If they're trusting you and they

628
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<v Speaker 3>know what's at state, then you can get them as

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<v Speaker 3>much as you possibly can, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, I mean, see, in all fairness, somebody listed the

631
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<v Speaker 1>defensive ratings for Pope's teams at his prior schools, and

632
00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:36.360
<v Speaker 1>they weren't. They weren't terribly great at Utah Valley, of course,

633
00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:37.960
<v Speaker 1>but at Brigham Young at one point he had the

634
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:42.519
<v Speaker 1>number I think thirty rank defensive team with guys who

635
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:43.239
<v Speaker 1>are not going to.

636
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:45.920
<v Speaker 4>Go on for the most part to the NBA.

637
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:51.039
<v Speaker 1>So whatever they were doing there was was working fairly well.

638
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:54.840
<v Speaker 1>And I'm thinking if he gets an upgrade in talent

639
00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:59.239
<v Speaker 1>at Kentucky and does what he was doing at Brigham Young,

640
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:02.840
<v Speaker 1>then those teams are to be top ten, top fifteen.

641
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:05.039
<v Speaker 4>Defensely, I don't know what he did at bringing me on.

642
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Clearly he wasn't stuck in a situation like he is

643
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:10.119
<v Speaker 1>now though, minus his best defender.

644
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:15.639
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's true, and we we're talking all this, you know,

645
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:18.079
<v Speaker 3>breaking things down at the end of the day. I

646
00:36:18.199 --> 00:36:22.320
<v Speaker 3>always say, you can have all the x's and o's,

647
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:27.199
<v Speaker 3>but it takes jim and Joe's to make it work.

648
00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:31.760
<v Speaker 3>And right now, unfortunately I'm not knocking those players, but

649
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:35.840
<v Speaker 3>we're not. Our jim and Joe's aren't compared to the

650
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:39.320
<v Speaker 3>other Jim and Joe's in the SEC right now, especially

651
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:40.159
<v Speaker 3>at the guard position.

652
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:41.519
<v Speaker 4>That's exactly right.

653
00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:45.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the Bob Butler is that important to our program's

654
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:49.159
<v Speaker 3>Let's just face it. I don't know Kirk Kurry.

655
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:50.480
<v Speaker 8>He I don't.

656
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:52.760
<v Speaker 3>I played against him, I coached against him when he's

657
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:56.119
<v Speaker 3>at the zoner. I don't know from a defensive standpoint,

658
00:36:56.599 --> 00:36:58.320
<v Speaker 3>if he would be I don't think he's just a

659
00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:00.880
<v Speaker 3>mob butler. Matter of fact, I know he's mat Butler.

660
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:04.119
<v Speaker 3>On the defensive end. Okay, we might say, okay, well

661
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:06.639
<v Speaker 3>we got two of our point guards are out. I

662
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:08.559
<v Speaker 3>don't know if Kurk Kurr is that type of guy

663
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:12.440
<v Speaker 3>that that can withstand the SEC, especially on the defensive end.

664
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:14.559
<v Speaker 3>I don't. He didn't show me that he was that

665
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:17.280
<v Speaker 3>great on the defensive end. I'm keeping guys in front.

666
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:20.119
<v Speaker 3>He was. He was a rawiye guy. He would have

667
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:25.480
<v Speaker 3>competed better than what we got right now. Yeah, that's

668
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:27.480
<v Speaker 3>where he comes in to play. But as far as

669
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:31.920
<v Speaker 3>dominating a game like Maman Butler, no, that's that's not

670
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:34.039
<v Speaker 3>what he's known for. You know, he was a good

671
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:37.199
<v Speaker 3>piece and a good backup, much better than what we

672
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:41.480
<v Speaker 3>got now. But as far as him being the guy

673
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:45.599
<v Speaker 3>right now, no, no, no, no, no, that's not that's

674
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:47.039
<v Speaker 3>not he.

675
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:49.159
<v Speaker 4>Was a good twelve to fifteen minutes guy because.

676
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:53.559
<v Speaker 3>You can't Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. Not knocking him, but

677
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:56.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying, you know, the moth Butler is is

678
00:37:56.880 --> 00:38:03.599
<v Speaker 3>unique mot Butler really because this SEC is grindy and

679
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:07.840
<v Speaker 3>some of the toughest point guards physically, mentally and talent wise.

680
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:10.519
<v Speaker 3>Are some of the best point guards in America. That's

681
00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:12.679
<v Speaker 3>why this league is so tough because we got great

682
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.599
<v Speaker 3>point guards in this league. We got tough point guards

683
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:16.480
<v Speaker 3>in this league.

684
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:16.719
<v Speaker 8>You know.

685
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:20.280
<v Speaker 3>And you know we not DJ Wagner last year. But

686
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:23.079
<v Speaker 3>DJ Wagner has shown right now now the Boogie plans

687
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:26.880
<v Speaker 3>out that he can shoot. He dominated us. Yeah, he's

688
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:29.519
<v Speaker 3>much from the defensive end, you know what I'm saying.

689
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:33.400
<v Speaker 3>And and they're tough enough to get downhill. They really

690
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:35.679
<v Speaker 3>put pressure on you because these guards in the SEC

691
00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:39.400
<v Speaker 3>are strong. Now, we don't have an SEC point guard

692
00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:41.639
<v Speaker 3>on our team right now outside of Lamon Butler. Right now,

693
00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:42.280
<v Speaker 3>we don't.

694
00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:45.559
<v Speaker 1>And he is the unforgettable guard. He talked to him

695
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:46.480
<v Speaker 1>each and every week.

696
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:49.559
<v Speaker 4>Coach. We'll talk to you next week. Thank you. Okay,

697
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:54.199
<v Speaker 4>up next hour number two. John Wong of Nolan Media.

698
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:56.679
<v Speaker 1>Group and West n chief Gearymore that they hit him

699
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<v Speaker 1>six thirty.

700
00:38:57.719 --> 00:38:58.519
<v Speaker 4>W lap.

701
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<v Speaker 9>Man sat, welcome back to the Big Blue Sider.

702
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Join us now as a longtime friend of the show,

703
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:53.320
<v Speaker 1>John Wong. He is a freelance writer and author. Wong's

704
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:56.559
<v Speaker 1>Whinings is his blog. He's written the co written several books.

705
00:40:57.440 --> 00:40:59.519
<v Speaker 1>We will shamelessly plug them a little bit later and

706
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:04.320
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk a Kentucky basketball But John, you cast some

707
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:09.800
<v Speaker 1>ripples in the media world yesterday. You'll ask the occasional

708
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:14.639
<v Speaker 1>provocative question basically coming from the fans standpoint, But you

709
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:20.679
<v Speaker 1>had Rachel lost and pausing and getting a little emotional,

710
00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and I played the soundback earlier in the show the

711
00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:29.599
<v Speaker 1>UK softball coach. But I'm sure you didn't expect that

712
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:33.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of response you asked her about lowering expectations.

713
00:41:33.480 --> 00:41:36.760
<v Speaker 8>I believe right, Yeah, Dick, you know, it's one of

714
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:39.960
<v Speaker 8>these things that you don't go into it intentionally trying

715
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:43.159
<v Speaker 8>to evoke any sort of emotional response like that, but

716
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:46.320
<v Speaker 8>especially with Rachel, she does tend to get emotional on

717
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:49.400
<v Speaker 8>many occasions, and you feel like it could happen. So

718
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:53.000
<v Speaker 8>whenever I asked the question, You're absolutely right. It is

719
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:56.079
<v Speaker 8>strictly from a fan standpoint, And I was just wondering

720
00:41:56.880 --> 00:42:01.000
<v Speaker 8>every year Rachel talks about Oklahoma City and World Series,

721
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:03.599
<v Speaker 8>and for some reason this year she didn't mention it,

722
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:06.880
<v Speaker 8>and a lot of the scuttle butt early on this

723
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:10.280
<v Speaker 8>season has been about maybe this could be a rebuilding

724
00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:13.639
<v Speaker 8>type year, just so many unknowns you don't know about

725
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:17.280
<v Speaker 8>the pitching staff. I just wanted to know if the

726
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:20.840
<v Speaker 8>fans should kind of set the bar a little bit lower.

727
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:24.199
<v Speaker 8>No sense pulling our airs out if there's no chance

728
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:28.320
<v Speaker 8>of making it to Oklahoma City. And not only did

729
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:31.360
<v Speaker 8>she come right out and refute me and say, no,

730
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:35.360
<v Speaker 8>you should not set the bar any lower. In fact,

731
00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:38.079
<v Speaker 8>we're probably going to be better this year than a

732
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:42.320
<v Speaker 8>lot of people think. But then she went into the

733
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:46.599
<v Speaker 8>reason why she thought the team would be better, and

734
00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:51.440
<v Speaker 8>that's when all that emotion came out. When you have

735
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:56.960
<v Speaker 8>all that vulnerability, when you have all that transparency, and

736
00:42:57.000 --> 00:42:59.480
<v Speaker 8>in my mind, that's what makes for a really, really

737
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:02.639
<v Speaker 8>good an answer from a coach. She actually said something

738
00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:08.239
<v Speaker 8>that people not only believe but also wanted to hear.

739
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:11.519
<v Speaker 8>It was very very refreshing from my standpoint.

740
00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:15.239
<v Speaker 4>Well, her emotion aside. What did you think of her

741
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:19.440
<v Speaker 4>readily available admission that she did a poor job and

742
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:24.920
<v Speaker 4>why she did that poor job essentially misplaced loyalty.

743
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:27.559
<v Speaker 8>I think that's true for a lot of sports nowadays,

744
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:31.199
<v Speaker 8>and it goes back even before the NIL era, but

745
00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:34.719
<v Speaker 8>I think it's even more of a factor right now,

746
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:38.840
<v Speaker 8>where you have all these coaches, and just take Kentucky

747
00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:42.480
<v Speaker 8>basketball last year with John Calipari, or even football with

748
00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:48.360
<v Speaker 8>Mark Stoops, where you had these high falutin five stars

749
00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:53.280
<v Speaker 8>or transfer portal heroes that have been recruited into the

750
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:57.320
<v Speaker 8>system and the coach feels some sort of loyalty to them.

751
00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:02.079
<v Speaker 8>That was part of Calipari's recruiting pit. Try come into Kentucky.

752
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:04.719
<v Speaker 8>I'm going to take you to the NBA. And we

753
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:08.559
<v Speaker 8>saw on so many occasions, especially last year, where he

754
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:13.840
<v Speaker 8>ended up playing those guys the Dewan Wagner's, the John

755
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:19.440
<v Speaker 8>d J. Wagner and Justin Edwards over guys like Reed

756
00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:24.920
<v Speaker 8>Shephard and Rob Dillingham. It was very, very readily appearent

757
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:30.440
<v Speaker 8>that those loyalties were divided and conflicted. And I think

758
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:33.519
<v Speaker 8>Rachel just came out and said what we had all

759
00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:38.519
<v Speaker 8>all kind of thought anyway, But to have her admitted

760
00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:41.880
<v Speaker 8>in such a form, I mean, this is the UK

761
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:44.480
<v Speaker 8>Softball media day. She knows that this is going to

762
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:48.800
<v Speaker 8>go out there. Oh yeah, And that was I think

763
00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:51.440
<v Speaker 8>what was the most surprising to me. I loved it.

764
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:54.079
<v Speaker 8>I thought it was a great answer and from some

765
00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:57.480
<v Speaker 8>of the responses that I've seen on social media. There

766
00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:00.159
<v Speaker 8>are a lot of coaches who are really rallying to

767
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:01.039
<v Speaker 8>to her defense.

768
00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:05.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, not that she needs defending, but yeah, you know,

769
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:09.159
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of fans as well who think there are,

770
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:12.199
<v Speaker 1>as you said, a lot of instances where coaches have

771
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:14.840
<v Speaker 1>stayed with people just too long or you know, it

772
00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:18.719
<v Speaker 1>jumped to my mind was Billy Gillespie and nothing against

773
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:21.280
<v Speaker 1>the kid, but Mark Corey in the starting lineup EV

774
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:25.000
<v Speaker 1>game after a game and wouldn't even talk about to us,

775
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:29.239
<v Speaker 1>you know why that was the situation. So, yeah, it was.

776
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:30.039
<v Speaker 4>It was interesting.

777
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:35.840
<v Speaker 8>You do wonder, though, how much equity she had built up.

778
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:38.360
<v Speaker 8>I mean, here's somebody who's been with the program eighteen

779
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:41.880
<v Speaker 8>years and has been to the College World Series. You

780
00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:44.800
<v Speaker 8>do wonder how if somebody was just coming on board,

781
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:48.079
<v Speaker 8>if you're a young coach trying to get established, I

782
00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:51.519
<v Speaker 8>think you'd be a lot more reticent in being able

783
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:53.199
<v Speaker 8>to admit something.

784
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:55.000
<v Speaker 4>Like no that no question.

785
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:55.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

786
00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:57.960
<v Speaker 1>And one of the first things Nick Bnji owned did

787
00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:00.280
<v Speaker 1>he went first this year generally see the way around.

788
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:03.440
<v Speaker 1>But as you know, Nick said down he's a big

789
00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:08.360
<v Speaker 1>fan of Rachel Lawson and vice versa, and Nick listed

790
00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:11.360
<v Speaker 1>her accomplishments and basically saying, how many do you know

791
00:46:11.400 --> 00:46:15.400
<v Speaker 1>how many times her team's been to the postseason and

792
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:19.760
<v Speaker 1>it was I believe seventeen. And how many Super Regionals

793
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:22.519
<v Speaker 1>they've been to, you know, and I think it was

794
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:25.800
<v Speaker 1>seven or eight something like that, you know, and they've

795
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:27.400
<v Speaker 1>been able to break through the one time to the

796
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:30.400
<v Speaker 1>World Series. They came close a couple of other times.

797
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:34.400
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, she it's amazing the job she's done. Well,

798
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:37.239
<v Speaker 1>let us shift over to the other sport that's getting

799
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:40.039
<v Speaker 1>most of the headlines on campus right now. We'll talk

800
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:42.079
<v Speaker 1>about women's basketball in a minute, because you cover that

801
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:47.159
<v Speaker 1>as well. But if I had told you at the

802
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:51.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, let's say back in late November, John Kentucky's

803
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:53.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna have a bunch of quad one wins, but by

804
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:56.079
<v Speaker 1>the time they get to the teeth of the SEC schedule,

805
00:46:56.400 --> 00:46:59.360
<v Speaker 1>they don't have their best two point guards. Would you

806
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:02.679
<v Speaker 1>have expect did a record any better than this?

807
00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:03.719
<v Speaker 4>You know?

808
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:08.639
<v Speaker 1>To me, I think expectations began to rise, maybe too quickly.

809
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:09.239
<v Speaker 4>What do you think?

810
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:14.000
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think those wins against Duke and Gonzaga and

811
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:17.920
<v Speaker 8>even just recently Tennessee on the road that kind of

812
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:20.480
<v Speaker 8>set a little bit of a false expectation. You might

813
00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:23.000
<v Speaker 8>even want to call it fool's gold. So if it

814
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:26.079
<v Speaker 8>is fool's gold, then Kentucky and Mark Pope has really

815
00:47:26.159 --> 00:47:29.239
<v Speaker 8>overachieved this year. If you said what would be their

816
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:32.000
<v Speaker 8>record at the beginning of the year, back when Mark

817
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:35.800
<v Speaker 8>Pope was first hired, I would have probably predicted about this,

818
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:40.519
<v Speaker 8>maybe even a little bit worse. But all these surprising

819
00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:46.119
<v Speaker 8>wins that they've had have really ratcheted expectation into the stratosphere.

820
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:49.400
<v Speaker 8>And I think for that reason, they're almost the victim

821
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:53.920
<v Speaker 8>of their own success right now. But I don't like

822
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:56.239
<v Speaker 8>the way they're trending. You know, they've lost for the

823
00:47:56.320 --> 00:47:58.400
<v Speaker 8>last five That's one of the reasons why I love

824
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:00.800
<v Speaker 8>coming on and talking with you. Did This is great

825
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:03.760
<v Speaker 8>therapy for me, and I was pretty down, But just

826
00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:07.400
<v Speaker 8>a couple of minutes with the legend dig Gabriel has

827
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:10.559
<v Speaker 8>kind of gotten my spirits back up again. I'm not

828
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:13.440
<v Speaker 8>giving up on them, But really, the narrative of this

829
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:16.039
<v Speaker 8>team has to be the injuries. You lose your two

830
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:19.960
<v Speaker 8>point guards. What teams out there after losing their two

831
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:23.360
<v Speaker 8>point guards would be able to form any semblance of

832
00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:26.679
<v Speaker 8>a cohesive team. Nobody and this team is able to

833
00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:29.280
<v Speaker 8>do it, then, of course, the other narrative is defense.

834
00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:31.599
<v Speaker 8>They've got to learn how to play some defense. The

835
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:36.000
<v Speaker 8>effort the other night against Old Miss was very, very

836
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:39.519
<v Speaker 8>discouraging and disappointing in that first half. I don't think

837
00:48:39.559 --> 00:48:42.440
<v Speaker 8>i've seen and you know me, I've been following Kentucky

838
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:45.519
<v Speaker 8>basketball for a long time. I'm not sure I've seen

839
00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:48.800
<v Speaker 8>a worst defensive effort out of the gate from a

840
00:48:48.840 --> 00:48:49.480
<v Speaker 8>team like that.

841
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:52.840
<v Speaker 1>And they just didn't seem interested. Did They would shock.

842
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:56.679
<v Speaker 8>Me, no, Ole Miss, but they could pretty much do

843
00:48:56.760 --> 00:48:59.519
<v Speaker 8>anything they want, whether it was three point line from

844
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:03.679
<v Speaker 8>beyond the arc or driving it inside. They just seemed

845
00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:08.519
<v Speaker 8>like Kentucky was a step slow. And they're not the

846
00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:12.679
<v Speaker 8>most athletic and talented a team, but they should not

847
00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:15.840
<v Speaker 8>be lacking anything effort wise. That was a little bit

848
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:16.639
<v Speaker 8>concerning to me.

849
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, and again any night at the SEC.

850
00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:21.840
<v Speaker 4>But you knew this.

851
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:23.440
<v Speaker 1>The other thing you knew about Old Miss going in

852
00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:26.760
<v Speaker 1>they needed it when they were as hungry as a

853
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:30.320
<v Speaker 1>team in the SEC could be. And you know what

854
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:33.079
<v Speaker 1>it's like and these kids had, you know, talked about

855
00:49:33.239 --> 00:49:36.280
<v Speaker 1>learning what it's like to be Kentucky and go on

856
00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:38.280
<v Speaker 1>the road, So they should have been surprised by that.

857
00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:43.480
<v Speaker 8>Now we've heard it all before. Everybody, Everybody's super Bowl,

858
00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:45.920
<v Speaker 8>and that's the way it is. How fun it is

859
00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:50.639
<v Speaker 8>it this year Dick be watching SEC basketball every night.

860
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:54.119
<v Speaker 8>There's a great day. Last night I was watching Arkansas

861
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:57.519
<v Speaker 8>and Texas, and look, Arkansas now at three and six,

862
00:49:57.559 --> 00:50:01.559
<v Speaker 8>they're only a game behind Kentucky in the standings and

863
00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:03.800
<v Speaker 8>the SEC standings, and of course they've got the head

864
00:50:03.800 --> 00:50:06.480
<v Speaker 8>the head tiebreaker. Now, who would have ever thought that

865
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:09.280
<v Speaker 8>after the starts of both those teams.

866
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:11.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I listened to a lot of that game on

867
00:50:11.559 --> 00:50:15.039
<v Speaker 1>the radio, Arkansas in Texas, and you know, they just

868
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:17.400
<v Speaker 1>went out and did again did the Texas what they

869
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:20.199
<v Speaker 1>did to Kentucky. And you know we talk about Kentucky

870
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:23.440
<v Speaker 1>losing two point guards. You're absolutely right about that, not

871
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:26.400
<v Speaker 1>an excuse where they played defensively. But I find it

872
00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:31.039
<v Speaker 1>fascinating that Arkansas lost a kid who was maybe the

873
00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:33.960
<v Speaker 1>best freshman in the league in Boogie Flann, because you

874
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:36.559
<v Speaker 1>know he was supposed to come here. But then that

875
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:40.760
<v Speaker 1>forces Caliperry to figure out another way. And now it's

876
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:43.960
<v Speaker 1>a better way to kind of balance things out and

877
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:47.480
<v Speaker 1>make things difficult. So I think that's a great lesson.

878
00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:51.639
<v Speaker 8>Isn't it. Isn't it amazing how sometimes less can be more?

879
00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:52.199
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

880
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:54.920
<v Speaker 8>And ironically, I think this kind of circles back to

881
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:59.039
<v Speaker 8>what Rachel Lawson was talking about. Maybe this loyalty to

882
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:02.639
<v Speaker 8>somebody like a book Flann was to the detriment of

883
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:07.280
<v Speaker 8>the loyalty to the program itself. It's addition by subtraction,

884
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:09.719
<v Speaker 8>and I think a lot of sports are feeling that

885
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:13.119
<v Speaker 8>right now. It really is the cohesiveness of the unit.

886
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:15.320
<v Speaker 8>It's still a team game. The last time that.

887
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:19.519
<v Speaker 1>I saw, yeah, yeah, Arkansas beats Texas seventy eight to seventy.

888
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:23.480
<v Speaker 4>Missouri blew a lead, looked like Tennessee was going to lose.

889
00:51:24.760 --> 00:51:27.320
<v Speaker 8>I was watching. I was watching that game, and Missouri

890
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:29.119
<v Speaker 8>is going to be tough, and Kentucky has to go

891
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:33.400
<v Speaker 8>to both Missouri and the Texas. They got another Oklahoma team.

892
00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:36.480
<v Speaker 8>When you start counting victories, you're you're starting to wonder.

893
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:41.000
<v Speaker 8>You figure this this weekend? All right? The fan base

894
00:51:41.079 --> 00:51:43.559
<v Speaker 8>right now, I would say, is that deaf Con two.

895
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:47.679
<v Speaker 8>You lose this Saturday to South Carolina, It's going to

896
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:51.719
<v Speaker 8>be all out panic deaf Con one. But you figure

897
00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:54.039
<v Speaker 8>you ought to be able to take South Carolina, you

898
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:56.440
<v Speaker 8>ought to be able to take Vanderbilt at home. You

899
00:51:56.440 --> 00:51:59.079
<v Speaker 8>should be able to take LSU. So I think the

900
00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:04.119
<v Speaker 8>victories are are there. I don't think we need to

901
00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:08.599
<v Speaker 8>sweat yet about making the tournament right, but with this team,

902
00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:12.800
<v Speaker 8>you just never ever know. I'm not putting any victory

903
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:14.519
<v Speaker 8>in the books just yet.

904
00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:14.880
<v Speaker 4>No.

905
00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Now it's about brackets and seating, and you've got to

906
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:18.679
<v Speaker 1>have an eye on that.

907
00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:21.840
<v Speaker 4>There's no question. We're talking to John Wong, freelance writer.

908
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Will come back and talk a little bit more with

909
00:52:24.039 --> 00:52:25.519
<v Speaker 1>John on the other side of the break here on

910
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:29.360
<v Speaker 1>six thirty WLAP Welcome back. We're talking with author and

911
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:33.880
<v Speaker 1>sportswriter John Wong. Wong's Whinings. This is blog writes for

912
00:52:33.960 --> 00:52:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Nolan Media Group, has a number of books out there

913
00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:38.800
<v Speaker 1>that he has written and co written, and his daughter

914
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:41.519
<v Speaker 1>has written a books. We'll talk about that in a minute.

915
00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:44.920
<v Speaker 1>But spring football is coming up, John, and I have

916
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:49.199
<v Speaker 1>talked to more people who it's fairly evident this is

917
00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:53.039
<v Speaker 1>such a crucial could be a pivotal season for Mark Stoops,

918
00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:58.719
<v Speaker 1>which I believe the spring practice coming up will be

919
00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:01.599
<v Speaker 1>just as Pivot want it. I mean, they've got so

920
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:04.320
<v Speaker 1>many new faces. They're building a new offensive line on

921
00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:09.400
<v Speaker 1>the fly, another quarterback competition. You know, you might have

922
00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:13.079
<v Speaker 1>thought they had an incumbent, but no, you know, there's

923
00:53:13.159 --> 00:53:14.639
<v Speaker 1>a lot that has to be settled.

924
00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:15.079
<v Speaker 4>Right.

925
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:19.920
<v Speaker 8>The more things change, the more things stay the same.

926
00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:26.119
<v Speaker 8>And I hate saying this because I really love Mark Steukes.

927
00:53:26.159 --> 00:53:29.000
<v Speaker 8>He's been a neighbor of mine for many, many years

928
00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:33.480
<v Speaker 8>and I just love him as a person. But sometimes

929
00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:37.400
<v Speaker 8>things just get stay or I don't care when you do.

930
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:40.199
<v Speaker 8>And the bar may be set so high for him

931
00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:44.719
<v Speaker 8>this year that there's almost no way to succeed. You say, Okay,

932
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:47.360
<v Speaker 8>let's set the bar as low as we can. Let's

933
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:50.559
<v Speaker 8>at least make a bowl that's not unrealistic, Right, Let's

934
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:53.079
<v Speaker 8>get back to six and six. You go six and six.

935
00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:57.079
<v Speaker 8>Who's going to be real, real happy with that? Probably nobody, right,

936
00:53:57.239 --> 00:54:02.119
<v Speaker 8>because once again he's a victim of his previous past success.

937
00:54:03.239 --> 00:54:06.639
<v Speaker 8>Twelve years in the SEC that's a long time. Yeah,

938
00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:10.079
<v Speaker 8>I've said it before. It's like that bag of potato chips.

939
00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:12.639
<v Speaker 8>No matter how good it is, no matter what brand

940
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:15.280
<v Speaker 8>it is, it'll tend to get stale if it's been

941
00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:17.320
<v Speaker 8>open a while I think this is the case with

942
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:19.559
<v Speaker 8>Mark Steus, I'm not saying they need to get some

943
00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:23.000
<v Speaker 8>fresh blood in there. I'm just saying it's almost impossible

944
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:28.840
<v Speaker 8>for him to please this ravenous creature that he's created

945
00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:31.960
<v Speaker 8>over the years now where people are expecting more than

946
00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:34.719
<v Speaker 8>just a trick to a bowl game.

947
00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yeah, there's no question. And we've talked before

948
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:39.480
<v Speaker 1>about how you and I go back didn't know each

949
00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:41.679
<v Speaker 1>other in college, but we were there at the same time,

950
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:45.280
<v Speaker 1>and they were one for a couple of years when

951
00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Kursey was there. But we know what happened after that,

952
00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:51.280
<v Speaker 1>and we go back to when people said, boy, seven

953
00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:53.519
<v Speaker 1>wins a year and they put up a statute to whoever.

954
00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:58.280
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, he moved the bar, didn't he, And it's

955
00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:02.159
<v Speaker 1>his I don't know, miss for or whatever that Now

956
00:55:02.280 --> 00:55:07.039
<v Speaker 1>the sec is as strong as it's ever been. But

957
00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:10.719
<v Speaker 1>the expectations now seven wins. They turned in back to

958
00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:15.079
<v Speaker 1>back seven wins season, John, and everybody was disappointed, you know,

959
00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:19.760
<v Speaker 1>and rightfully so, because they did not accomplish what they

960
00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:22.559
<v Speaker 1>should have accomplished. So you're right, he's kind of a

961
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:24.239
<v Speaker 1>victim of his own success, isn't he?

962
00:55:25.239 --> 00:55:28.880
<v Speaker 8>You talking about that has brought back just a boatload

963
00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:33.000
<v Speaker 8>of memories of how bad Kentucky football really has been

964
00:55:33.719 --> 00:55:36.360
<v Speaker 8>over the course of time. And this is why I

965
00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:39.599
<v Speaker 8>refer it to you as a legend. Dick, you are

966
00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:44.280
<v Speaker 8>longevity means something and Stoke's twelve years long time in

967
00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:48.079
<v Speaker 8>the SEC Dick Gabriel, however many years that you've been

968
00:55:48.119 --> 00:55:51.159
<v Speaker 8>doing this, but you realize the history. And that's a big,

969
00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:54.400
<v Speaker 8>big part of how the mindset of our fan base

970
00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:57.719
<v Speaker 8>is right now. Guys like you, I would put on

971
00:55:57.960 --> 00:56:04.400
<v Speaker 8>like the Mount rushow a media that are still.

972
00:56:04.239 --> 00:56:05.679
<v Speaker 4>Out rockhead, that's for sure.

973
00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:08.519
<v Speaker 8>No, No, you've been doing this for for a long time.

974
00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:08.920
<v Speaker 3>You.

975
00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:12.519
<v Speaker 8>I'll put Cutler on there, I'll put Dave Baker, Larry Vall.

976
00:56:13.079 --> 00:56:17.639
<v Speaker 8>You guys know the history and I'm almost there with

977
00:56:17.719 --> 00:56:20.880
<v Speaker 8>you in terms of age and experience as a fan,

978
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:23.639
<v Speaker 8>but as a media member, I'm still a babe in

979
00:56:23.719 --> 00:56:27.719
<v Speaker 8>the wood. So I am learning, but it's it's hard

980
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:32.760
<v Speaker 8>to channel the expectations. I almost almost want to take

981
00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:35.960
<v Speaker 8>my fan hat off and and and put my media

982
00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:39.360
<v Speaker 8>had on and look at it objectively. But no, in

983
00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:43.480
<v Speaker 8>terms of this year, I can't see I can't see

984
00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:46.599
<v Speaker 8>anybody really be satisfied with the final result.

985
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:49.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, John, before I let you go, how is the

986
00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:52.320
<v Speaker 1>novel going? As I said, John has written a number

987
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:55.840
<v Speaker 1>of books and co written books with guys like Kyle

988
00:56:55.920 --> 00:57:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Macy and Derek Ramsey, but prior to Christmas, he really

989
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:04.079
<v Speaker 1>he's a basketball themed murder mystery.

990
00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:06.880
<v Speaker 4>Has it been the way you hoped?

991
00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:11.159
<v Speaker 8>It has? Locally a lot of people who have read

992
00:57:11.199 --> 00:57:14.079
<v Speaker 8>it have really said they really enjoy it. And this

993
00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:15.559
<v Speaker 8>this is the time to read it, right in the

994
00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:19.079
<v Speaker 8>middle of basketball season, because there are the plot has

995
00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:22.880
<v Speaker 8>so many things that people will uh, it'll it'll kind

996
00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:25.760
<v Speaker 8>of touch a nerve with them. I write with a

997
00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:29.000
<v Speaker 8>little bit of a whimsical style. I write with a

998
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:32.199
<v Speaker 8>little bit of an edge, but it's it's a murder

999
00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:35.199
<v Speaker 8>mystery overall. It's called name, Image and Murder. And I

1000
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:38.800
<v Speaker 8>take a lot of all that's good, bad, and indifferent

1001
00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:43.119
<v Speaker 8>about this new landscape of college basketball, and I kind

1002
00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:47.960
<v Speaker 8>of twirl it into this murder mystery, basketball action thriller

1003
00:57:48.199 --> 00:57:51.000
<v Speaker 8>that has a lot of Kentucky references. If you're a

1004
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:54.280
<v Speaker 8>Kentucky fan, you'll love it. If you're a basketball fan,

1005
00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:57.480
<v Speaker 8>I think you'll also really really enjoy it. I need

1006
00:57:57.519 --> 00:58:00.519
<v Speaker 8>your help though, Dick and kind of ratchet and into

1007
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:01.760
<v Speaker 8>the national level.

1008
00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:02.199
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1009
00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:05.199
<v Speaker 8>I sent Paul Finebaum a copy of this thing. I

1010
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:08.559
<v Speaker 8>didn't hear anything from him. So maybe when these big

1011
00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:11.440
<v Speaker 8>weeks come in, I'll have some complimentary copies and then

1012
00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:13.559
<v Speaker 8>we'll really be able to get the word out on

1013
00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:18.880
<v Speaker 8>that name image of Murder Amazon, go on Amazon, Barnesandnoble

1014
00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:21.360
<v Speaker 8>dot com. How's that for the shameless plug?

1015
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:23.400
<v Speaker 4>Great, that's very well done.

1016
00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:26.360
<v Speaker 1>And I got thirty seconds left and plug your daughter's book.

1017
00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:30.440
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, she's doing she's a real author, she's got some

1018
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:35.119
<v Speaker 8>real publishing companies behind her. It's called shadow Work Journal.

1019
00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:38.519
<v Speaker 8>It's one of these things. It's a self reflection book.

1020
00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:41.920
<v Speaker 8>If you enjoyed that Rachel Lost and clip, then this

1021
00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:44.119
<v Speaker 8>is something for you and it allows you a lot

1022
00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:48.039
<v Speaker 8>of introspection about yourself. I think I've learned a lot

1023
00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:50.000
<v Speaker 8>about myself just by reading the thing.

1024
00:58:50.119 --> 00:58:50.639
<v Speaker 4>Sounds good.

1025
00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:54.280
<v Speaker 1>John Wong Wong's whinings k Y h U A n

1026
00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:57.000
<v Speaker 1>G on Twitter. John, thanks so much, and we'll see

1027
00:58:57.000 --> 00:58:59.719
<v Speaker 1>you at the next game anytime.

1028
00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:02.760
<v Speaker 8>Look forward to it. Let's get this thing turned around.

1029
00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:04.719
<v Speaker 8>No deaf Con one this weekend.

1030
00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:07.480
<v Speaker 1>West n Bureau Chief Gary Moore up next here on

1031
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:10.559
<v Speaker 1>six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big bullon Cider.

1032
00:59:10.719 --> 00:59:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Joining us today. It is Thursday, but we were bumped

1033
00:59:13.079 --> 00:59:15.880
<v Speaker 1>yesterday by the state wide show, so let us welcome

1034
00:59:15.880 --> 00:59:17.679
<v Speaker 1>in our West End Bureau chief Gary Moore.

1035
00:59:18.199 --> 00:59:19.960
<v Speaker 4>Hey back from California.

1036
00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:22.639
<v Speaker 1>We missed you last week, but just in time for

1037
00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:24.039
<v Speaker 1>the super Bowl and.

1038
00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:25.159
<v Speaker 4>More and more.

1039
00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:26.760
<v Speaker 6>It's right, you know, And I did watch the game

1040
00:59:26.800 --> 00:59:28.039
<v Speaker 6>on Saturday night from out there.

1041
00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:30.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry. Were the boos.

1042
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:34.360
<v Speaker 6>Really that loud in there to you?

1043
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:34.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

1044
00:59:34.920 --> 00:59:39.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they're actually at the end some booze toward

1045
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:43.039
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky players, but not as much as the ones hurled

1046
00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:43.800
<v Speaker 1>at Caliperry.

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<v Speaker 4>What the hell? What is with that?

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00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:48.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, oh, I used this isn't a talking point

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00:59:48.920 --> 00:59:51.159
<v Speaker 1>for today. I used to be dead set of posed,

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00:59:51.199 --> 00:59:53.880
<v Speaker 1>but now these guys are pros man, you know.

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00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:55.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I get that part of it.

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00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:57.400
<v Speaker 6>But I mean, look, Caliparia left on his own. You

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00:59:57.400 --> 01:00:00.000
<v Speaker 6>should be applauding that if you were that pissed off

1054
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:02.239
<v Speaker 6>Adam to begin with, and it didn't cost you a.

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01:00:02.199 --> 01:00:04.079
<v Speaker 4>Buyout, so why not clap for that?

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01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:07.039
<v Speaker 4>Well, the America our March.

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01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:12.239
<v Speaker 6>He ruined our march, all right, first sip two guys

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01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:13.880
<v Speaker 6>in a six pack, our first swig.

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01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:14.159
<v Speaker 4>Here.

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01:00:14.800 --> 01:00:17.880
<v Speaker 6>Two Big Bowl games this Sunday, but not at the

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01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:20.159
<v Speaker 6>same time, so you can watch both of them. As

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01:00:20.199 --> 01:00:22.639
<v Speaker 6>you mentioned, there's that super sized one that's six thirty

1064
01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:25.679
<v Speaker 6>our time between two NFL teams. I neither like nor

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01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:30.440
<v Speaker 6>care about. Then, before all of that hypapalooza, it's the

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01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:34.360
<v Speaker 6>twenty first Puppy Bowl about two o'clock. And not just

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01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:37.639
<v Speaker 6>on Animal Planet Dikets. Pups are going to be on, well,

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01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:40.000
<v Speaker 6>they're gonna be simulcast on a bunch of plays TBS,

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01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:44.280
<v Speaker 6>A Discovery Channel, True TV Max and Discovery plus the

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01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:48.000
<v Speaker 6>biggest Puppy Bowl ever. One hundred and forty two rescued

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01:00:48.039 --> 01:00:52.000
<v Speaker 6>dogs from eighty shelters in forty states, including two as

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01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:54.519
<v Speaker 6>we mentioned before right here from the Kentucky Humane Society,

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01:00:54.599 --> 01:00:58.480
<v Speaker 6>Colonel the Beagle on Team Rough and Julee Up the

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01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:02.039
<v Speaker 6>first ever Saint Bernard in Bold history on Team Fluff,

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01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:06.039
<v Speaker 6>going for the Lombardi Trophy. In fact, I'm wearing my team,

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01:01:06.119 --> 01:01:08.599
<v Speaker 6>my colonel, I'm part of that. Locally, you see this

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01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:10.960
<v Speaker 6>convinced in camera, where's our buddy, Vince?

1078
01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:14.360
<v Speaker 4>He's not working. Get a shot of that.

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01:01:15.199 --> 01:01:17.480
<v Speaker 6>Kyhumane dot Org has got more about it if you

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01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:19.039
<v Speaker 6>want to go into these shirts, they're really very cool.

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01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:19.880
<v Speaker 4>Look.

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01:01:19.960 --> 01:01:23.159
<v Speaker 6>Super Bowl pregame coverage blabs on and on and on

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01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:26.159
<v Speaker 6>and on for hours. So for the love of dog,

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01:01:26.360 --> 01:01:29.840
<v Speaker 6>watch the Puppy Bowl instead before it all on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 6>And remember, don't shop for your new best friend. Adopt shelter.

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01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:36.760
<v Speaker 6>Dogs are the best, aren't they.

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01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:39.159
<v Speaker 1>I agree, we have two right here in our house,

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01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and uh, they need us and we need them.

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01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:45.400
<v Speaker 6>It's a matter of who rescues who. And plus they

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01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:49.599
<v Speaker 6>know dogs know when you're they just know. I'll convinced

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01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:52.360
<v Speaker 6>that they know ye that you're rescuing them. Second swig

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01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:53.800
<v Speaker 6>in the six packs. So, as you mentioned, I was

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01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:56.159
<v Speaker 6>out in La last week. I was overseeing this Luca

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01:01:56.400 --> 01:02:00.519
<v Speaker 6>trade for a UK great a d thumbs up by me.

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01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:02.320
<v Speaker 4>Don't you love Dick?

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01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:05.360
<v Speaker 6>How the NBA just kind of pretty much dominated and

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01:02:05.400 --> 01:02:07.679
<v Speaker 6>still does the sports headlines this week instead of the

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01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:09.199
<v Speaker 6>Eagles and Chiefs for most.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the week.

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01:02:10.119 --> 01:02:12.440
<v Speaker 6>It's kind of like payback for scheduling the NFL games

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01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:15.519
<v Speaker 6>on Christmas Day that the NBA used to own for TV.

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01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:18.360
<v Speaker 6>I'm not the biggest NBA fan in the world, but

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01:02:18.559 --> 01:02:20.559
<v Speaker 6>I love all of this, and you know, you can

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01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:24.800
<v Speaker 6>tell how young or how inexperienced some of these sports.

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01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:26.760
<v Speaker 6>The ackers are saying, this is the biggest trade in

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01:02:26.880 --> 01:02:29.440
<v Speaker 6>NBA history, and I was here to cover it for you.

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<v Speaker 6>First of all, it wasn't. And second of all, it's

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01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:34.559
<v Speaker 6>not even the biggest trade in Lakers history.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep.

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01:02:35.599 --> 01:02:37.880
<v Speaker 6>That would be a nineteen seventy five Kareem to the

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01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:41.000
<v Speaker 6>thirty and fifty two Lakers with a guy named Walt

1112
01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:46.039
<v Speaker 6>Wesley for Lowvell's junior bridgeman, Dave Myers, Elmore Smith, Brian Winners,

1113
01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:49.599
<v Speaker 6>two draft picks and some cash. How that turnout? And

1114
01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:52.039
<v Speaker 6>of course you could also say the Lakers getting Anthony

1115
01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:54.320
<v Speaker 6>Davis from New Orleans was a bigger deal because.

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01:02:54.079 --> 01:02:56.880
<v Speaker 4>He got them a ring, right, Yeah, absolutely.

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01:02:56.559 --> 01:02:59.039
<v Speaker 6>And of course there's probably those two trades involving Wilt

1118
01:02:59.079 --> 01:03:02.159
<v Speaker 6>Chamberlain to Philly from San Francisco and then from Philly

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01:03:02.199 --> 01:03:04.880
<v Speaker 6>to the Lakers. Those would be high up on that list,

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01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:07.559
<v Speaker 6>no pun intended. And if you really want to dig

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01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:09.760
<v Speaker 6>into it, maybe the best trade ever in the history

1122
01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:12.559
<v Speaker 6>of all basketball was when Red Houurback traded for the

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01:03:12.639 --> 01:03:15.679
<v Speaker 6>rights to Bill Russell. That's right, involving a guy named

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01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:16.440
<v Speaker 6>Cliff Haagen.

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01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:17.079
<v Speaker 4>Isn't exactly.

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01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:23.960
<v Speaker 1>And that trade did bring Saint Louis it's only championship

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01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:26.079
<v Speaker 1>NBA title because the Hawks won.

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01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:28.679
<v Speaker 4>It nineteen fifty eight behind Cliff hay.

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01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Now, Russell was hurt that year, but the city of

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01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Saint Louis still very proud of that title as well

1131
01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:37.639
<v Speaker 1>it should be. But you know, it's all about recency bias.

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01:03:37.719 --> 01:03:40.960
<v Speaker 1>It's the biggest trade in the history of social media.

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01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:45.000
<v Speaker 1>What he got it was a stunner. Yeah, and now

1134
01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:47.079
<v Speaker 1>they follow it up last night. I talked about it

1135
01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:51.559
<v Speaker 1>earlier with the Lakers part of their madness. They make

1136
01:03:51.599 --> 01:03:55.280
<v Speaker 1>another trade and among the people leaving Dalton Connect who

1137
01:03:55.320 --> 01:03:57.639
<v Speaker 1>is having a big rookie year, but he goes to

1138
01:03:57.760 --> 01:04:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Charlotte for Mark Williams. Well, I don't even remember being

1139
01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:06.400
<v Speaker 1>at Duke like this guy could turn out to be

1140
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:08.199
<v Speaker 1>the key figure in his trade.

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01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:11.880
<v Speaker 6>Connect supposedly had a bad well he had, he did

1142
01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:14.239
<v Speaker 6>have a bad shooting drought, but then he's picked up

1143
01:04:14.280 --> 01:04:17.679
<v Speaker 6>on that as rookies will. But they didn't like his defense,

1144
01:04:18.440 --> 01:04:21.920
<v Speaker 6>so he was expendable. I still think he's a good player,

1145
01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:25.039
<v Speaker 6>all right. Third, swig, let's talk about that other Professional

1146
01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:30.440
<v Speaker 6>Basketball Association college the SEC Tournament Dick thirty four days

1147
01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:33.440
<v Speaker 6>away starting March twelfth in nash Vegas. Of course, all

1148
01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:35.400
<v Speaker 6>sixteen teams will play at least one game, and you

1149
01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:37.239
<v Speaker 6>know it's going to be the usual upsets, maybe more

1150
01:04:37.320 --> 01:04:40.440
<v Speaker 6>this year because word has it that as many as

1151
01:04:40.480 --> 01:04:44.480
<v Speaker 6>thirteen SEC teams could make the field in March. Now,

1152
01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:46.719
<v Speaker 6>you may be too young to remember this, but I

1153
01:04:46.719 --> 01:04:49.559
<v Speaker 6>can recall when the SEC was a football conference. Okay,

1154
01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:52.880
<v Speaker 6>that was with seven People say that you might be

1155
01:04:52.960 --> 01:04:57.280
<v Speaker 6>too young to know this. Given the schedule, with nine

1156
01:04:57.360 --> 01:05:00.079
<v Speaker 6>games left, four with ranked teams and thirty four, there

1157
01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:03.519
<v Speaker 6>are days to go, I ask you that, Gabriel, is

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01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:06.320
<v Speaker 6>that enough time for UK to A get healthy and

1159
01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:10.480
<v Speaker 6>B fix the hemorrhaging, especially on defense.

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01:05:10.599 --> 01:05:11.559
<v Speaker 4>Well A leaeds to be.

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01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:15.400
<v Speaker 1>If they don't get healthy, and that is to say

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01:05:15.840 --> 01:05:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Lamont Butler, then I don't see their defense getting much better.

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01:05:20.039 --> 01:05:23.679
<v Speaker 1>It will get better even without Lamont, because they'll work

1164
01:05:23.719 --> 01:05:27.880
<v Speaker 1>on it for obvious reasons. But if you don't have

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01:05:28.039 --> 01:05:32.960
<v Speaker 1>somebody who is capable of pressuring the basketball as soon

1166
01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:37.920
<v Speaker 1>as it crosses mid court, then everybody else on your team.

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01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:40.159
<v Speaker 1>Is it a disadvantage? And I'm not pointing fingers at

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01:05:40.199 --> 01:05:42.199
<v Speaker 1>anybody that just says.

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01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:44.000
<v Speaker 4>How good Lamont Butler is maybe.

1170
01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:48.480
<v Speaker 1>The best in the country, and his defense begets better

1171
01:05:48.519 --> 01:05:53.559
<v Speaker 1>defense for everybody. So minus that, they are going to

1172
01:05:53.639 --> 01:05:56.639
<v Speaker 1>have to really knuckle down on what they work on

1173
01:05:57.199 --> 01:06:01.119
<v Speaker 1>in practice, you know, preparing or the rest of the games.

1174
01:06:01.239 --> 01:06:04.639
<v Speaker 1>Because right now, Gary, as you know, you're playing for seeding,

1175
01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:08.639
<v Speaker 1>you're playing for bracket space, and you've got to take

1176
01:06:08.679 --> 01:06:14.079
<v Speaker 1>care of yourself, take the worry out of the hands

1177
01:06:14.159 --> 01:06:17.360
<v Speaker 1>of the committee and force them to give you a

1178
01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:18.000
<v Speaker 1>high seed.

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01:06:18.559 --> 01:06:21.639
<v Speaker 4>Only way to do that is to win. Amen to

1180
01:06:21.679 --> 01:06:24.400
<v Speaker 4>that fourth swig in the six pack.

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01:06:24.480 --> 01:06:28.159
<v Speaker 6>And coincidentally, my four reasons why I couldn't care less

1182
01:06:28.159 --> 01:06:31.519
<v Speaker 6>about yet another Super Bowl this coming Sunday, I mentioned

1183
01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:33.320
<v Speaker 6>it before. I don't like the Eagles or the Chiefs.

1184
01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:35.719
<v Speaker 6>Eagles have the most obnoxious fans in football, and I'm

1185
01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:40.000
<v Speaker 6>tired of guys and stripes helping Kansas City. I'm fine

1186
01:06:40.039 --> 01:06:44.119
<v Speaker 6>with Taylor Swift, She's cool, but I'm enough already. Second reason,

1187
01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:47.480
<v Speaker 6>I'm so tired of suffering through the pronounced team of

1188
01:06:47.559 --> 01:06:50.360
<v Speaker 6>Kevin Burkhart and Tom, I'm still learning on the job, Brady.

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01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:55.760
<v Speaker 6>The last few games that they've done, including the NFC Championship,

1190
01:06:55.760 --> 01:06:57.920
<v Speaker 6>reminded me how far behind they are to Joe and

1191
01:06:57.960 --> 01:07:00.679
<v Speaker 6>Troy that they lost to ESP and even the New

1192
01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:04.400
<v Speaker 6>Yorker magazine It Hardly Ever, comments on Sports piled On

1193
01:07:04.519 --> 01:07:06.599
<v Speaker 6>a couple of weeks ago, saying, quote, Brady's not so

1194
01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:09.360
<v Speaker 6>great at his new gig, and he settles for a

1195
01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:10.320
<v Speaker 6>stock phrases.

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01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:11.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we know.

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01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:15.000
<v Speaker 6>Third's the third reason for that. As you know, I

1198
01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:17.159
<v Speaker 6>hate commercials with the passion. That's why I love the

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01:07:17.159 --> 01:07:18.480
<v Speaker 6>Red Zone especially.

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01:07:18.519 --> 01:07:19.159
<v Speaker 4>Most of these are.

1201
01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:24.840
<v Speaker 6>Overproduced, underwhelming commercials and spots that they overpaid for always

1202
01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:26.760
<v Speaker 6>and they always show you that the golden age of

1203
01:07:26.800 --> 01:07:30.159
<v Speaker 6>mad Men advertising age is long gone, never coming back.

1204
01:07:31.039 --> 01:07:33.199
<v Speaker 6>And the fourth reason for that the halftime show of

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01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:36.480
<v Speaker 6>rapper Kendrick Lamar, which brings us to our fifth swig.

1206
01:07:36.480 --> 01:07:38.480
<v Speaker 6>And by the way, you're gonna need SIPs from a

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01:07:38.599 --> 01:07:42.840
<v Speaker 6>fifth if you watch this entire halftime show because Kendrick

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01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:46.800
<v Speaker 6>Lamar and singer, songwriter and occasional rapper Sizza will be

1209
01:07:46.840 --> 01:07:50.400
<v Speaker 6>the halftime entertainment of the Super Bowl for anyone over forty

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01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:54.000
<v Speaker 6>and not really into rap. Be advised that Lamar has

1211
01:07:54.039 --> 01:07:57.800
<v Speaker 6>a song that won two Grammys, well at least two

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01:07:57.920 --> 01:08:00.119
<v Speaker 6>in the biggest categories, the Song of the Year and

1213
01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:03.000
<v Speaker 6>Record of the Year, not like Us, which is if

1214
01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:05.960
<v Speaker 6>you don't know a profane disc of rap rival Drake,

1215
01:08:06.760 --> 01:08:09.480
<v Speaker 6>which you might say, who gives a crap about a

1216
01:08:09.519 --> 01:08:12.840
<v Speaker 6>feud between two rappers, especially when the piece sounds like

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01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:15.519
<v Speaker 6>silly gibberish with and I'm like to check my notes here.

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01:08:15.559 --> 01:08:19.239
<v Speaker 6>According to my count, it has seventeen in words, six

1219
01:08:19.399 --> 01:08:23.119
<v Speaker 6>F bombs, six b female references, and one S word,

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01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:25.399
<v Speaker 6>which I don't think anybody is reporting on this. It's

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01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:28.720
<v Speaker 6>just sort of like the Emperor's new Lyrics. There is

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01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:30.560
<v Speaker 6>a clean version of this out there, but it was

1223
01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:34.560
<v Speaker 6>digitally made. They just edit out the words in shop

1224
01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:37.680
<v Speaker 6>with the computer. So I'm gonna definitely tune in Dick

1225
01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:41.159
<v Speaker 6>to see how in the world fox A is gonna

1226
01:08:41.319 --> 01:08:44.000
<v Speaker 6>maybe muzzle this guy and be see if he edits himself.

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01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:45.479
<v Speaker 4>Who knows.

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01:08:46.159 --> 01:08:48.680
<v Speaker 6>If it gets to be so bad, Apple Music won't

1229
01:08:48.680 --> 01:08:50.880
<v Speaker 6>be producing these anymore, and we'll get up with people

1230
01:08:50.960 --> 01:08:54.800
<v Speaker 6>back here at halftime with Al Hurt from the first

1231
01:08:54.840 --> 01:08:55.399
<v Speaker 6>Super Bowl.

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01:08:57.239 --> 01:08:59.560
<v Speaker 4>You know, I was in up with people. Glenn close

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01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:01.800
<v Speaker 4>Way really back in the day.

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01:09:01.840 --> 01:09:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, halftime, I'll due respect, I'll be walking the dog.

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01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:08.960
<v Speaker 1>That's not for me, and I get that, But to

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01:09:09.039 --> 01:09:13.199
<v Speaker 1>go in reverse order. The commercials have taken on a

1237
01:09:13.239 --> 01:09:15.600
<v Speaker 1>life of their own. Some of them are brilliant. My

1238
01:09:16.039 --> 01:09:20.800
<v Speaker 1>favorite is still Terry Tait Office Linebacker. But you know,

1239
01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:24.800
<v Speaker 1>it's amazing to me the money they spend. But with

1240
01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:27.600
<v Speaker 1>a friend of mine, and you've met him who works

1241
01:09:27.640 --> 01:09:31.199
<v Speaker 1>in Hollywood, I always remind myself a lot of people

1242
01:09:31.279 --> 01:09:33.279
<v Speaker 1>got jobs because of these commercials.

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01:09:33.279 --> 01:09:35.239
<v Speaker 4>They got paid a lot of money. But are we

1244
01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:36.439
<v Speaker 4>paying for it in the store.

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01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:39.079
<v Speaker 1>The answer is yes, yes, we're gonna pay higher prices

1246
01:09:39.119 --> 01:09:42.000
<v Speaker 1>so they can spend money on their production value. Some

1247
01:09:42.079 --> 01:09:45.000
<v Speaker 1>of them are great, most of them are not. The

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01:09:45.039 --> 01:09:49.359
<v Speaker 1>Clydesdell's will always went out, you know, and now they're

1249
01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:53.399
<v Speaker 1>releasing them prematurely. You know, you get this the sneak preview.

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01:09:53.560 --> 01:09:58.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, what's the fun in that? Agree on the announcers.

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01:09:58.319 --> 01:10:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I really like Burkhart Brady's man. You know, he's not great.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he worth the money?

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01:10:05.039 --> 01:10:07.720
<v Speaker 4>Who knows? That's up for the bean counters to say.

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01:10:07.840 --> 01:10:11.520
<v Speaker 1>But I always tell you the way I judge a

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01:10:11.560 --> 01:10:15.199
<v Speaker 1>color analyst in any sport. Can you teach me something

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01:10:15.239 --> 01:10:17.880
<v Speaker 1>about the game that I don't know? I haven't heard

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<v Speaker 1>that much from Brady and a lot of it is

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01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:24.159
<v Speaker 1>just the obvious stuff. But it's his first year, you

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01:10:24.199 --> 01:10:26.800
<v Speaker 1>know who. Like we talked before, who of us would

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01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:29.319
<v Speaker 1>put up stuff from our first year and say, there

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01:10:29.319 --> 01:10:33.920
<v Speaker 1>it is, that's the good stuff. The one storyline I

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01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:36.640
<v Speaker 1>like in this game, two of them. I want to

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01:10:36.680 --> 01:10:40.880
<v Speaker 1>see Saquon I have a big game, but we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about him a little later. Darien Knard, the

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01:10:43.720 --> 01:10:47.079
<v Speaker 1>former Wildcat, won two rings with the Royal, over the

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01:10:47.159 --> 01:10:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Royals with the Chiefs, and then signed with the Eagles,

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01:10:51.399 --> 01:10:54.119
<v Speaker 1>so he can join Ken Norton Junior as a guy

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<v Speaker 1>with rings from three straight Super Bowls. If the Eagles win,

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<v Speaker 1>how about that?

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<v Speaker 4>I hope they do.

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<v Speaker 6>Actually, if I watch any of it, if I have

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<v Speaker 6>a pick on either one of those teams, our sixth

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01:11:07.560 --> 01:11:09.720
<v Speaker 6>and final swig and estimated, speaking of all of this,

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01:11:09.920 --> 01:11:14.000
<v Speaker 6>one point thirty nine billion expected to be wagered legally

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<v Speaker 6>on Sunday Super Bowl, not counting the squares and offices

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01:11:17.479 --> 01:11:18.039
<v Speaker 6>and houses.

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01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:20.880
<v Speaker 4>Points spreads are boring, so go for the prop.

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<v Speaker 6>Bets folks such as, what are the odds of Kelsey

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01:11:23.520 --> 01:11:26.960
<v Speaker 6>proposing to Taylor Swift on the field and will she

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01:11:27.079 --> 01:11:30.680
<v Speaker 6>say yes? What color will the gatorade be that's dumped

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01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:34.000
<v Speaker 6>on the winning coach? So far purple is leading the

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01:11:34.039 --> 01:11:37.039
<v Speaker 6>pack in the net? What will Kendrick Lamar's first and

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01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:38.920
<v Speaker 6>last songs be during the halftime?

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01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:39.079
<v Speaker 4>Now?

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<v Speaker 6>I haven't seen a prop bet for if an nword

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01:11:41.359 --> 01:11:44.159
<v Speaker 6>or an F bomb makes it past the sensors, that

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<v Speaker 6>may still but the week is still young, right, The

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01:11:46.600 --> 01:11:49.720
<v Speaker 6>odds of Dick Gabriel sitting between Taylor Swift and Caitlin

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01:11:49.840 --> 01:11:53.920
<v Speaker 6>Clark have now been updated at infinity to one. You're saying,

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<v Speaker 6>so you're saying there's a chance, that's right if you

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<v Speaker 6>have a gambling problem, one eight hundred gambler like the Kenny.

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<v Speaker 4>Right there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Prop bets have been around forever. It's just we hear

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<v Speaker 1>more about it now that betting is legal relatively speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>But prop bets have led and will lead even more

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<v Speaker 1>to issues with athletes placing bets, either directly or indirectly. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>that they shouldn't be placing And who didn't see that coming?

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<v Speaker 1>I know the NCAA is trying to work through this because,

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<v Speaker 1>well for a number of reasons, but it's just to

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<v Speaker 1>Fixing a game is one thing. But a player who

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<v Speaker 1>knows that there are prop bets out there as to

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01:12:37.319 --> 01:12:39.319
<v Speaker 1>whether or not he gets twenty, well he has a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to say about that. So I think they're fun,

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01:12:43.800 --> 01:12:46.279
<v Speaker 1>but I think everybody involved has got to get a

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01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:50.079
<v Speaker 1>handle on them, or something really terrible is going to happen,

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01:12:50.760 --> 01:12:54.399
<v Speaker 1>both in pro and college sports. Does that make sense, Yes,

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01:12:54.439 --> 01:12:55.399
<v Speaker 1>it's been happening to already.

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<v Speaker 8>NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've seen that in the last month. We had

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<v Speaker 1>a player take himself out of a game. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And who didn't see that? That's what I always say,

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<v Speaker 1>Who didn't see that coming? That's what makes you That's

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01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:10.520
<v Speaker 1>what drives you nuts. So we're talking to Gary, speaking

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01:13:10.560 --> 01:13:12.279
<v Speaker 1>of driving us nuts, we're talking to Gary Moore.

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<v Speaker 4>He's our Western bureau chiefs. And we'll come back.

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<v Speaker 1>And talk more with Gary on the other side of

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<v Speaker 1>the break here on six point thirty WLAP, Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>We are chatting with our West End bureau chief, Gary

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<v Speaker 1>moorees at the other end of a sixty four.

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<v Speaker 4>He used to be on the West coast, but now

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01:13:27.439 --> 01:13:28.920
<v Speaker 4>is in the LA the Louisville area.

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<v Speaker 1>We've gone through two guys in a six back time

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of hot reads, and uh, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Super Bowl. Gary, it's always a hot ticket.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever cover a Super Bowl?

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<v Speaker 4>Did not?

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01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Did not either, And I always kind of wanted to,

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01:13:46.119 --> 01:13:47.560
<v Speaker 1>just to see what it feels like to be in

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01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:51.000
<v Speaker 1>that crush. But I don't know about buying a ticket

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01:13:51.159 --> 01:13:52.800
<v Speaker 1>because they're crazy expensive.

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01:13:52.920 --> 01:13:55.279
<v Speaker 4>However, now comes.

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<v Speaker 1>The word that Super Bowl secondary ticket prices. They're high,

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<v Speaker 1>but much less then last year's game. Average price at

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01:14:03.840 --> 01:14:09.399
<v Speaker 1>tick pick as of Tuesday sixty five hundred and fifty

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01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:15.079
<v Speaker 1>two dollars, which is pretty high. But last year same

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<v Speaker 1>site Chiefs Niners average price was nine one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>Because you got all those tech guys with billions of

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<v Speaker 6>dollars out in San Francisco, apparently, apparently.

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<v Speaker 1>You also had a pretty hefty cost back on the

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01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:35.840
<v Speaker 1>COVID year, but they were only twenty five thousand fans,

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01:14:35.840 --> 01:14:38.039
<v Speaker 1>that's why they paid seven thousand plus.

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01:14:38.520 --> 01:14:40.720
<v Speaker 4>But do you think that's the reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you don't have as many tech guys you trying

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<v Speaker 1>to jump in and buy ticket.

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01:14:46.279 --> 01:14:47.680
<v Speaker 4>It could well be that.

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<v Speaker 6>And the fact that we just saw these two teams

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<v Speaker 6>put two years ago, three years ago, whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and to repeat.

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<v Speaker 6>And those ticket prices you just mentioned that are going

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01:14:57.359 --> 01:14:59.800
<v Speaker 6>for it now are way down from where they started,

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<v Speaker 6>like I guess, two three weeks ago, whatever it was. Yeah,

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01:15:03.800 --> 01:15:07.319
<v Speaker 6>they've really been discounted a lot. And what do you think.

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<v Speaker 6>I think there's gonna be some empty seats. There may

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<v Speaker 6>be some ball spots in the Superdome. If you're waiting

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<v Speaker 6>to go, you might get a bargain.

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<v Speaker 1>On a Saturday, some say the best thing to do

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01:15:18.439 --> 01:15:21.439
<v Speaker 1>is wait until game time if you're not too picky

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01:15:21.439 --> 01:15:24.479
<v Speaker 1>about where you sit, and that might be.

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01:15:24.479 --> 01:15:25.039
<v Speaker 4>The thing to do.

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<v Speaker 6>That happens with concerts, that's that's the same deal with

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01:15:27.399 --> 01:15:29.119
<v Speaker 6>concerts too. By the way, a lot of people wait

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<v Speaker 6>for the day of the show, especially when they're setting

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01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:33.800
<v Speaker 6>things up, and say, oh, we got some more tickets here,

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01:15:33.800 --> 01:15:35.920
<v Speaker 6>we'll just discount those and throw them out. They have

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01:15:35.920 --> 01:15:38.000
<v Speaker 6>shows good. I know you can't plan if you're coming

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01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:39.439
<v Speaker 6>in from out of town, it's hard to do that.

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<v Speaker 6>But if you're local, wait till the day of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Sequon Barkley in our second hot read, he

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<v Speaker 1>probably will become the most productive or will complete the

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<v Speaker 1>most productive season in NFL history for a running back.

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<v Speaker 1>Between sixteen regular season games and three playoff games, Barkley's

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<v Speaker 1>rushed for twenty four hundred and forty seven yards, second

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<v Speaker 1>most as we know in NFL history. The overall record

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01:16:10.119 --> 01:16:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Terrell Davis of the Broncos ran for twenty four to

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<v Speaker 1>seventy six in the regular season and postseason.

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<v Speaker 4>So Barkley needs.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty yards to break his record, and his lowest output

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<v Speaker 1>of the year has been forty seven yards, so you

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01:16:25.880 --> 01:16:28.760
<v Speaker 1>gotta like his chances. He's even closer to breaking the

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<v Speaker 1>record for yards from scrimmage that also is held by Davis.

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01:16:33.239 --> 01:16:36.520
<v Speaker 1>He needs just three yards there. You know, we're talking

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01:16:36.520 --> 01:16:39.119
<v Speaker 1>about catching the ball, and Davis did all this back

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01:16:39.159 --> 01:16:42.640
<v Speaker 1>in ninety eight when the Broncos won a Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll put it to you, I just think these

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01:16:45.479 --> 01:16:49.880
<v Speaker 1>records since they're now playing so many regular season games

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01:16:50.239 --> 01:16:52.279
<v Speaker 1>and more playoff games. I went back and looked up

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01:16:52.319 --> 01:16:58.039
<v Speaker 1>Jim Brown's record nineteen sixty four. He rushed for more

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01:16:58.079 --> 01:17:00.840
<v Speaker 1>than a thousand yards in every game base for that season.

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01:17:01.640 --> 01:17:05.279
<v Speaker 1>More than one hundred yards in each game, and the

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01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Browns made the playoffs one game and they won the

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01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:12.399
<v Speaker 1>NFL Championship. Right, so he had he played a total

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01:17:12.399 --> 01:17:16.439
<v Speaker 1>of thirteen I think it's time for an asterisk in

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01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:17.880
<v Speaker 1>the NFL record book, don't you.

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01:17:19.199 --> 01:17:19.439
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Eric Dickerson thinks that too, I believe, Yeah, he's not

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01:17:23.119 --> 01:17:25.920
<v Speaker 6>happy about the record being approached at all. Yeah, in

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01:17:25.960 --> 01:17:28.560
<v Speaker 6>the regular season, Yeah, I think you could. I think definitely,

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01:17:28.600 --> 01:17:31.680
<v Speaker 6>because there there's enough of a discrepancy now with that.

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01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:34.399
<v Speaker 6>I don't think baseball wants to be part of that

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01:17:34.479 --> 01:17:37.920
<v Speaker 6>kind of a conversation anymore. No, No, we go back

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01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:40.319
<v Speaker 6>with the home run record and all that. But I

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01:17:40.359 --> 01:17:43.520
<v Speaker 6>think at football there's some validity to that. And Jim

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01:17:43.560 --> 01:17:44.239
<v Speaker 6>think about it.

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01:17:44.760 --> 01:17:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Eighteen games they want to play, all right, They used

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01:17:47.399 --> 01:17:49.960
<v Speaker 1>to play twelve. Yeah, so I mean now you're playing

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01:17:50.039 --> 01:17:52.920
<v Speaker 1>half again as many games, and everybody gets excited about

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01:17:52.920 --> 01:17:56.880
<v Speaker 1>always a thousand yard rusher, so you know, one hundred

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01:17:56.920 --> 01:17:58.720
<v Speaker 1>yards a game that's still big.

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<v Speaker 4>Especially with the rules the way.

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01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:02.359
<v Speaker 6>They are now, They're not going to have eighteen games.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think in our lifetile, I don't think we're

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01:18:03.840 --> 01:18:06.119
<v Speaker 6>going to see eighteen games they just seems to be

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<v Speaker 6>too much pushback on it, and that's brutal. Seventeen's already

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01:18:09.880 --> 01:18:10.319
<v Speaker 6>tough enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, But you know, if it means more

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01:18:13.159 --> 01:18:16.000
<v Speaker 1>money in the players pockets, you could see them agreeing

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01:18:16.039 --> 01:18:19.560
<v Speaker 1>to it, couldn't you, and doing away with preseason games

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01:18:19.600 --> 01:18:21.880
<v Speaker 1>and playing more of those scrimmages.

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<v Speaker 4>That allow you to set your ball club.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and you'll see more of those padded helmets too,

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01:18:28.359 --> 01:18:31.640
<v Speaker 6>because that's you know, that's really starting to take a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of present. They've seeing a lot of things, especially

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01:18:33.399 --> 01:18:35.479
<v Speaker 6>when you read about Conrad Dobler. You know, he's the

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01:18:35.520 --> 01:18:39.920
<v Speaker 6>latest one that had some problems in that that category.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, I think you're you're onto something with that,

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<v Speaker 6>just to kind of say, hey, look, just so you know,

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01:18:45.720 --> 01:18:47.560
<v Speaker 6>he did this with this many games and now we've

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<v Speaker 6>got this many games.

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<v Speaker 4>Well. He is Gary Moore and you can find him

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<v Speaker 4>on Twitter at.

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<v Speaker 6>At nine to five five Gary, same fabulous joint you're found.

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<v Speaker 1>At at Big Boo Insider one. Enjoy the super Bowl

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01:18:59.560 --> 01:19:01.760
<v Speaker 1>and the can and the puppy.

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<v Speaker 4>Boll and that'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to Gary, Thanks to Sean Woods and to John Wong.

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<v Speaker 4>Tomorrow night, we're gonna have kind of a special edition.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about the events of the day going into

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01:19:11.600 --> 01:19:13.960
<v Speaker 1>the weekend for the basketball Cats, but we're also going

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01:19:14.039 --> 01:19:18.239
<v Speaker 1>to talk uh extended a conversation with Jeremy Jarmon. I

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01:19:18.239 --> 01:19:20.439
<v Speaker 1>haven't had a chance to talk much football with Jeremy,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll do that in Hour number two tomorrow, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll probably take up the entire hour talking about Kentucky football,

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01:19:26.199 --> 01:19:29.119
<v Speaker 1>looking ahead of the spring and to a pivotal season

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01:19:29.520 --> 01:19:30.159
<v Speaker 1>with Mark.

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01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:32.279
<v Speaker 4>Stoops and the football Wildcats. So it'll be with us

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01:19:32.279 --> 01:19:34.520
<v Speaker 4>tomorrow night. But for now, that's it. Good night from

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<v Speaker 4>the garage in Lexington.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there someone else up now we can talk to

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<v Speaker 2>No now, go away, or I shall talk to you

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<v Speaker 2>a second time.

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<v Speaker 5>Bang Bang, Belie
