Speaker 1: So there was a room that came this week would
be to rumor that we're gonna be getting variants, unless
that was everything you've been watching, right sir, Yes, Okay,
we're gonna be getting a variance of Doom in Doomsday,
which I guess could be a lot, because who know,
we're getting variants upon variants of other multiverses and whatnot.
So that's the one, not the rumor that we're gonna
be in variants. And then the other half is that
one of them could even be female. Some people have
linked this to at some point earlier last year and
Armas was in talks for a role, and people are
wondering if it's that because obviously she's not cast as
anything yet in the public. I don't know. I like,
I get the feeling they're not casting any new characters
right now because they're about to semi reboot and they're
gonna get X Men and all that stuff kind of
down the line. So I'm not saying that that was
not part of this room, And the Scuba did not
say they heard. It's just that people have been bringing
that up. But yeah, what do you think about this?
As far as people brought up the image of you remember,
obviously they could just been for a fun reveal, but
how they revealed down he was He walked up on
stage with a bunch of dooms behind him, right, and
then he took off the mask, with people like, oh,
it's kind of maybe been there in front of us
the whole time. That if it's going to feature a variant,
So what do you think that would be? Like? Do
you think it's gonna be that every universe has maybe
fought their doom? Do you think it's Doom's working together?
Are they all if let's say that the female rumor
is wrong that are they all played by Downey? Are
they different actors? Sadly, we can't get Julia McMahon back
as he's passed away, so I would love them to
work him in there. But what do you what do
you feel about this room? Does this excite you? Are
you in the middle? Are you kind of down on it?
Like how because it's I don't know, it's a I
know variants are a thing, but it's just we've already
got a lot going on. You know this?
Speaker 2: This excites me a lot, and I think, yes, the
variance thing that makes absolute sense. This is the the
multiverse saga, right, so you need to capitalize on this,
and yeah, we've got a lot of the variance things
so far, but you got to keep running with it
until you finish your your whole setup, right, like the
whole multiversal war that they were alluding to everything. Yes,
with Kang, that's its own kind of dynamic. But I
feel like they are adapting that storyline into being just
a Doom narrative now. So no, I think it's just
I'm therefore it, I really really am. And I like
that it's not necessarily prioritizing Downy as a Doom character
moving forward. I think like when there's a chance that
they could have him and they could kill him off,
just like there's a chance that we get a Steve
Rogers very into something or some sort and they kill
him off too, But you get the Chris Evans and
the Robert Donny Junior back in those roles, and so
that has that level of hype. I mean, it's just
it'd be tricky to see if you have Robert Donney
Junior as the main Doctor Doom and he's there through
two Avengers movies, kills half of the New Avengers teams
and whatnot, and then he's like the main, main big bat.
I feel like that would retroactively be very very impactful
on the previous films that he's in. But I don't know.
It depends if it's written right. I would just really
like it. If it was, I would like it a lot.
If there was a different Doom that ends up being
thrown into the mix, and maybe it is Lady Doom
or something. I don't know, Kate Beckham Sale. That's all
I'm saying. But I think it would work really really
well if they were just to throw in another Doom
and take over that mantle, and it wouldn't be focusing
on Robert Donney Junior's doom as much. I think it's
a good publicity stunt. I think it's good marketing. It's
going to put people in the seats to see this movie,
for sure. But I think it just needs to be
written in a very very clever way to be executed.
Speaker 1: Ye I've seen people been using that as far as like,
is there a way to use downy as to get
you in? But then the real doom is whoever an
actress gonna be in here?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Because I guess there is some sort of storyline in
the comooks. I've never read it that Doom like takes over.
I think it is Tony starts body. Maybe it's someone else,
but someone people also use that idea that like they've
taken over you know, Tony Stark, that is Robert Downey
for this movie. But then you can get somebody else
down the line. But then it doesn't mix because I
feel like we've also heard rumors that he might stick
around as Doom after right, So it's tough because for me,
I really just feel like they're going to be different
variants and Doom will still be the main one is Downy.
The jury's still out on a storyline perspective, Like look
at open Imer. I'm not worried all acting wise, what
Downy can do. We know he can play a great
antagonist role. I think there is some juice on the
boneofs with Steve and Spider Man. Unfortunately nothing but like
Fantastic Four, but even Pedro and down It together, I
think that's a fun pairing. So I think there's some
things you can do. It's just if we got X Men, Thunderbolts, Avengers,
and then all these other random heroes we keep hearing
rumors that the I don't know if we've talked about this,
the hard rumor going around or just I'm gonna say
it's a rumor. Fact. It feels like no way home.
It sounds like Sony's letting Marvel use when the Spider
Man Cash's on this move. But it's not Holland. It's Maguire.
You've heard Have you heard that yet?
Speaker 2: I just assumed, but I didn't know that it was Maguire. Well,
that it was going to be that they were going
to be in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, but the people assumed Secret Wars and
not this one, So I guess I'm not sure if
that's true. Yeah, so maybe there's a situation where Toby
gets brought in and he loses and or dies and
that brings in Tom Holland. So again, it's just that
there is there's so much to do with already a
messy universe that hasn't been as smooth as obviously the
Infinity War saga. So for me, I just if the
variants are a slight detour for some fun, Okay, we
could kind of see that, And I don't know if
I buy the whole oh where, I don't know to me,
if you're the goals to get Downy back in then
just bringing back as iron Man, like if you're if
you're really that weird, like I still would rather at
the hop start with a different actor and just have
Downy on that stage. Yeah, I'm back as Ironman for X,
Y and Z, right, because even then it's like, okay,
so we have a story where doctor we talked about
this years ago with an Obviously it changed up with
Fantastic Beasts and Johnny Depp in his situation. But I
remember when Colin Farrell played Grunwald and then it was
revealed that you know, that was just a disguise and
then it's actually Johnny Depp, right, But I remember at
the time people were like, I actually preferred the Colin
Farrell performance, And that's always the thing you could get to,
like what happens if Danny play's Doom and at first
we're if you on it, but then he does a
great job and then they're, oh, actually he just possessed
Tony's body and it's actually you know, Brendan Sklenar, you know,
or something like that, right, But if that sucks, it's like, oh, well,
I would have rather Downy just kept doing it right,
So I think that's the issue of the whole. If
it's a variant or if it's you know, always body
possessed him, I don't know about that. So we can
have some fun if this rumor is true of one armus, like,
that'd be cool. Is there any other actresses out there
right now that the other one? I thought, which could
be funny, like and I don't know, I don't think
she has the groutas to do this right now, but
I wonder if, like, could you get Gwyneth Paltrow to
be one of those, like if you would do because
if Downy is one and that's the other one, but
how would you feel about an thee rm us if
that's uh you know, that's not part of this rumor,
but it's been rumored before, so again people are kind
of drawing the line of who could she be playing
a doomsday? Again not confirmed, so.
Speaker 2: I'd be okay with it. I mean, she's she's a
fantastic actress, she really is, and I think she would
definitely have that level of uh like dominance to her
and and and and discipline as well as a as
a doom So I'd be on board. For that for
for sure. And uh, I mean she's with Tom Cruise right,
so I mean not anymore. Oh when did this happen?
Speaker 1: I think a couple of weeks ago?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, how long way together?
Speaker 1: For I don't know that far. I got a couple
of months.
Speaker 2: Having fun making movies. Well that's the shame. I was
gonna say. If she got her foot in the door
was working with Disney, then that means they're one step
closer getting Tom just having fun man making movies, big adventure,
having a great time.
Speaker 1: Did you do it for Father's Day? It just such
a respought. So yeah, I don't I don't think the
cruise thing is happening anymore. But yeah, I'm just trying
to think if there's anybody else around that could make
like a good ud Like I know they're out there,
but a lot of them are in the MCU Like
a Kate Lynchez, she's in the mcucho there on, she's
in the mk I'm gonna say no to Kate beckha Cell.
It was supposed to be a Beck and Cell Boys cast,
but it's termed the Wolf Forecast. I'm trying to think
there's anybody else out there that I would like Katy
sack Off. Yeah, sure they got like her. I don't
know if she has I don't know if she is
that gear, but maybe i'd like to see her try hmm. Yeah,
I don't know if there's anyone else off the hop
I can just think of. I'm trying to think of
actresses that have been doing some stuff lately, but no,
I can't. So we'll see anything else in the doom situation.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so, uh says would it be cool?
Speaker 1: Would be cool if it was kry Colin. She's already
the voice of Ironman's AI. Yeah she is, is carry connon.
She wasn't the one. No, she wasn't right, because who
did God, I'm trying to think who was the voice
of what's the lady from in Findy War she's with
in Santos's Black Army there or whatever? Oh her, it's
another actress. I don't know why I'm taking us down
this path.
Speaker 2: I know what you mean.
Speaker 1: I know you mean because they had some issue. Yeah,
they had some issue where they wouldn't pay her a
certain amount, so she didn't come back. But at first
I thought it was kry Coln, But no, I can't
find it, so if Jack can let me know who
it was. And I can't remember because Ebney, mah, there's god,
I've not watched or read these comics in a while.
There's the big guy, there's course of clave, right, and
then there's the big guy, and then there's her and
I can't remember. But yeah, Kerry Connon, that could be fun,
even though I don't know. I wonder if she's gonna
be in the uh the vision show. That's Kerry Coon,
Thank you very much. I feel like I always get
those two mixed up all the time, but uh, thank you, Mike. Yeah,
there we go. We'll tar it for sad break and
we'll be he right back and we're back. So I
don't know, kind of interesting. Well, I guess we can
talk about this. I was gonna move us over to DC,
but we can quickly talk about this as of right now.
I guess he was being interviewed for something else, and
it was talked about with Michael Giacchino that right now
that Marvels students are reportably developing a sequel to Werewolf
by Night, Obviously, that does not mean it's for sure happening.
They were developing a war Machine movie. They're still developing
a Blade movie, so it said that it could just
be an idea. So they're talking about kicking tires and whatnot.
But uh, yeah, how would you feel about this if
we were to get a Werewolf by Night? And also
just in the sense of we've talked about both for
Marvel and Star Wars, live action shows have almost kind
of gone away. But I guess I guess I'm kind
of wrong because I was to say presentations, we got
Guardians and we got Work by Night and then they
were done. Right. It's like for the live action ones,
we got nothing else. It was just over. You got
those two and that's it. And then next year we
are getting Punisher, and then if we're doing Werewolf by Night.
So I guess I'll ask you these two questions of one,
I think I know how you feel about ho would
you feel about a Werewolf by Night? Two like, what
would you want covered? And also do you think that
they're shifting back to more special presentations and why? Because
it seems like they kind of took a break, but
now Punisher in this it sounds like they're maybe gearing
up this again. So yeah, what are your thoughts on this.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm definitely I'm on board. I really really am.
That first one, it really really knocked out of the
park for me, really really loved it. And oh I
wish I could remember what his name was, was like
Fred or greg Or? Yeah, those mad things like simple
simple to name?
Speaker 1: Wasn't Gary? Right, that's the written that's Superman's robot.
Speaker 2: That's right? Yes, yeah, I just I thought it was great.
I really really liked it. And else a bloodstone being
in there they ted, that's right, ted, So everything that
they were introducing and there, I was just eating it up.
And again the black and white theme really really worked.
I really just need to know where those characters are
at right now and then so if that means we
get another like a sequel special presentation, then sure, time
it with Halloween. Make it another horror picture. I'd really
really like that. I'd like to see what they're up
to very very much. So I'm on board with it.
I think again, it was pretty successful. I don't remember
anyone saying anything really bad about it or really hating
on it. It was a great sixty minute thing, so
let's keep it going.
Speaker 1: I think people like them. I think it's just the
case of we were wondering how much budgetary wise, it
made sense, right because if you get because maybe the Guardians,
but do you think there's anybody that subscribed to Disney
Plus just to watch Wherewolf by Night. I'm sure there is.
I'm sure there's some massive World by Night fan, But
if it is, it's it's not many, right, Like there's
not tons where at least with the show with Thokwa
Soldier or WandaVision Loki whether you like those characters even then,
or Eve Miss Marvel, which obviously didn't do the greatest ratings.
But if you'll end up wanting to see the show
and you like it, you could stay subscribed for multiple
weeks because it's a show that goes on for six
to eight episodes, right where this is just a one shot.
I could see Guardians maybe people subscribe for a Christmas special,
but you know, I don't know if they would do
it here. Same thing with even with Punisher, Like I
love Punisher, but I don't know if there's anybody it's like,
I have to see this. I still think it's a
mistake that they're not. They did this with Mawana, They're
doing this with Manuan and Grogu. I don't know why
they're not putting Punisher out. It's just like a hour
and a half hour twenty five low budget action movie,
you know, Like I actually think if you kept the
budget relatively low, it would make a profit. Drop that
thing in February before spiering, because next year all they
have I know they have Spider Man, but that doesn't
count because it's a Sony movie. Still, all they have
is Doomsday. So I don't know why they don't, so
I guess I think it was positive received. I think
it's just that they got away from oh, why should
we make these specials if maybe won't have the retention rate? Right? So,
do you think that means we're getting more of these
if the shows are kind of I'm not done, but
we only got Vision Quests right now and wonder like
live action shows right now, like Vision Quests and wonder Man,
and same with Star Wars right we only got ahsokas
the live action shows on both sides are are pretty
small as far as the offerings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to say we're done, but I
think they're going to be very careful about it. Because
what was that article that we're talking about where Kevin
Faigi was not really a part of the MCU shows,
and he was talking about how something with the MCU
shows kind of we're damaging the brand or something like that.
I'm paraphrasing, of course, because I can't remember exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just have time to oversee all that stuff
and everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, so there's a lot of there is a
lot of issues because like I have not gone and
watched Ironheart, haven't finished it, and that What Condas show.
I've not started that, but yeah, yeah, and I feel
like I need to be on top of those things
and watch them, like and just kind of have a
better understanding of the overall narrative of the MCU. But
I'll get to them eventually. But that's just something where
I feel like, Okay, if you're not on board with
watching the show, like Miss Marvel, while this character is
gonna not make much sense when you get into you know,
Marvel two or the Marvels or you know Matt Murdock
and Daredevil, right, it's like, oh, we're missing out on
some key context.
Speaker 1: Or even one in Doctor Strange right again. But for
her to have kids, it's like, how did that happen
if you didn't watch her show, right.
Speaker 2: That's right. But maybe that's the uh, maybe that's the
catch here. If you do a show that's like six
to eight episodes and each episode is like twenty to
thirty minutes, it's a longer grind as opposed to, hey,
we do a special presentation, it's sixty minutes, you know, boom,
it's easy. We can cover a lot of ground and
something like that. And I think that, hey, maybe maybe
that's where they meet in the middle. Maybe that's where
they win. They're very selective over it. But if you
do special presentation, hour long shows for these select characters,
and you make it like a multi like I don't
want to say season because they're our long single entities.
So yeah, just to me, if you do like a sequel,
maybe they do a third one and it could just
be kind of like this ever expanding and furthering narrative
for this character. I think that's the way to go
about it, for sure. And it's a lot easier for
people to watch than eight episodes that are all twenty
minutes half an hour, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially if it's not I don't know relatively, that's
one thing you got a better chance of someone clicking
on just a fifty two hour twenty special even if
it's meh reviewed or versus a series. If it's met reviewed,
do you want to pour? Like you said, a couple
hours into it, maybe not? So Yeah, it's interesting, Like
I'm just so curious how obviously we still got the
Warner Brothers purchase to go and we don't know because
Netflix has been trying to get it. Now then there's
all these talks of Saudy and stuff, so it's like,
who knows what happens there? You got Netflix and then
like gues stuff because they're like the king of streamers, right,
and then you have Apple and Amazon who are doing
these big things with streamers. But at the same time,
it doesn't matter, Like those streaming services could lose money
for the next five to ten years, it wouldn't even
matter for those companies. I guess it's a side thing.
So those are bad peacock, it's that's what we'll have
to see. And hey, big thing for them because obviously
they're getting tarryor Sheridan in a few years, so they'll
get to bring over him and hopefully get some talent paramount.
Plus if they hopefully get Warner Brothers. Not hopefully for me,
hopefully for them. They can fill it in. That's where
it's what Disney. It's in an interesting spot because like
their brands right now are I won't say they're dead,
but they're definitely damaged. Right Marvel's not as strong as
once was, and Disney wasn't strong, So it's like at
their height, they had some shows that didn't work out
and weren't successful, and now it's like they're not even
at their height anymore. We have to see how Secret
Wars and Manwar and Grogu and Starfire and Doomsday and
how they kind of bounce back from all that. But
it's what Disney's gonna be very interesting to see what
they do the next few years. So I'm surprised. I
was surprised by Punisher, and then I'm surprised by this because,
like I said, we saw Mando and we saw more
want or to go to movies, So I thought, oh,
anything they want to do a special, they go to movies.
I could understand where Wherewolf by Night might be better
on Disney. Plus, because I don't know how that would
open as a movie, so I would get that Punisher,
as I stayed earlier, I don't get. But for me,
I hope this means we're just getting more back into
the supernatural side of things. I hope that means that
we're getting really I hope this means we can get
this going and then Blade can eventually happening and we
can start cooking on that side, because I think it'd
be a great thing to focus on. If you get
the X Men over there, you kind of hopefully re
establish the Avengers. You always got Spider Man, and then
you got the Fantastic Four, and then you got the
supernatural side, which is Blade, doctor Strange, et cetera. So
I kind of hope that happens. Obviously, to me, I
really won't believe until Blades up and running, because I
feel like he would be a key part to that.
But yeah, I'm all for it. I love that special
with tons of fun. I'd like to say it becomes
a yearly Halloween thing, but I didn't watch this year,
but I'd like to try to put it on the list.
But no, I enjoyed it, so I'll definitely take more
of it. So anything else, no, No, nothing well on
that side, let's see here.
Speaker 2: So