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Speaker 1: So there was a room that came this week would

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be to rumor that we're gonna be getting variants, unless

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that was everything you've been watching, right sir, Yes, Okay,

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we're gonna be getting a variance of Doom in Doomsday,

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which I guess could be a lot, because who know,

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we're getting variants upon variants of other multiverses and whatnot.

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So that's the one, not the rumor that we're gonna

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be in variants. And then the other half is that

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one of them could even be female. Some people have

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linked this to at some point earlier last year and

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Armas was in talks for a role, and people are

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wondering if it's that because obviously she's not cast as

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anything yet in the public. I don't know. I like,

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I get the feeling they're not casting any new characters

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right now because they're about to semi reboot and they're

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gonna get X Men and all that stuff kind of

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down the line. So I'm not saying that that was

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not part of this room, And the Scuba did not

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say they heard. It's just that people have been bringing

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that up. But yeah, what do you think about this?

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As far as people brought up the image of you remember,

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obviously they could just been for a fun reveal, but

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how they revealed down he was He walked up on

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stage with a bunch of dooms behind him, right, and

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then he took off the mask, with people like, oh,

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it's kind of maybe been there in front of us

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the whole time. That if it's going to feature a variant,

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So what do you think that would be? Like? Do

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you think it's gonna be that every universe has maybe

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fought their doom? Do you think it's Doom's working together?

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Are they all if let's say that the female rumor

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is wrong that are they all played by Downey? Are

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they different actors? Sadly, we can't get Julia McMahon back

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as he's passed away, so I would love them to

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work him in there. But what do you what do

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you feel about this room? Does this excite you? Are

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you in the middle? Are you kind of down on it?

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Like how because it's I don't know, it's a I

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know variants are a thing, but it's just we've already

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got a lot going on. You know this?

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Speaker 2: This excites me a lot, and I think, yes, the

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variance thing that makes absolute sense. This is the the

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multiverse saga, right, so you need to capitalize on this,

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and yeah, we've got a lot of the variance things

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so far, but you got to keep running with it

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until you finish your your whole setup, right, like the

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whole multiversal war that they were alluding to everything. Yes,

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with Kang, that's its own kind of dynamic. But I

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feel like they are adapting that storyline into being just

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a Doom narrative now. So no, I think it's just

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I'm therefore it, I really really am. And I like

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that it's not necessarily prioritizing Downy as a Doom character

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moving forward. I think like when there's a chance that

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they could have him and they could kill him off,

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just like there's a chance that we get a Steve

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Rogers very into something or some sort and they kill

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him off too, But you get the Chris Evans and

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the Robert Donny Junior back in those roles, and so

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that has that level of hype. I mean, it's just

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it'd be tricky to see if you have Robert Donney

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Junior as the main Doctor Doom and he's there through

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two Avengers movies, kills half of the New Avengers teams

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and whatnot, and then he's like the main, main big bat.

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on the previous films that he's in. But I don't know.

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like it. If it was, I would like it a lot.

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If there was a different Doom that ends up being

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thrown into the mix, and maybe it is Lady Doom

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or something. I don't know, Kate Beckham Sale. That's all

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I'm saying. But I think it would work really really

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well if they were just to throw in another Doom

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and take over that mantle, and it wouldn't be focusing

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on Robert Donney Junior's doom as much. I think it's

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a good publicity stunt. I think it's good marketing. It's

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going to put people in the seats to see this movie,

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for sure. But I think it just needs to be

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written in a very very clever way to be executed.

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Speaker 1: Ye I've seen people been using that as far as like,

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is there a way to use downy as to get

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you in? But then the real doom is whoever an

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actress gonna be in here?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Because I guess there is some sort of storyline in

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the comooks. I've never read it that Doom like takes over.

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taken over you know, Tony Stark, that is Robert Downey

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for this movie. But then you can get somebody else

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around as Doom after right, So it's tough because for me,

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variants and Doom will still be the main one is Downy.

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at open Imer. I'm not worried all acting wise, what

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Downy can do. We know he can play a great

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antagonist role. I think there is some juice on the

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boneofs with Steve and Spider Man. Unfortunately nothing but like

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Fantastic Four, but even Pedro and down It together, I

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think that's a fun pairing. So I think there's some

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things you can do. It's just if we got X Men, Thunderbolts, Avengers,

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and then all these other random heroes we keep hearing

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rumors that the I don't know if we've talked about this,

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the hard rumor going around or just I'm gonna say

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it's a rumor. Fact. It feels like no way home.

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Man Cash's on this move. But it's not Holland. It's Maguire.

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You've heard Have you heard that yet?

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that it was going to be that they were going

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to be in there.

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not this one, So I guess I'm not sure if

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that's true. Yeah, so maybe there's a situation where Toby

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gets brought in and he loses and or dies and

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that brings in Tom Holland. So again, it's just that

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there is there's so much to do with already a

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messy universe that hasn't been as smooth as obviously the

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Infinity War saga. So for me, I just if the

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variants are a slight detour for some fun, Okay, we

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could kind of see that, And I don't know if

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if you're the goals to get Downy back in then

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just bringing back as iron Man, like if you're if

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you're really that weird, like I still would rather at

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the hop start with a different actor and just have

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Downy on that stage. Yeah, I'm back as Ironman for X,

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Y and Z, right, because even then it's like, okay,

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so we have a story where doctor we talked about

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this years ago with an Obviously it changed up with

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Fantastic Beasts and Johnny Depp in his situation. But I

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remember when Colin Farrell played Grunwald and then it was

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revealed that you know, that was just a disguise and

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then it's actually Johnny Depp, right, But I remember at

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the time people were like, I actually preferred the Colin

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Farrell performance, And that's always the thing you could get to,

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like what happens if Danny play's Doom and at first

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we're if you on it, but then he does a

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great job and then they're, oh, actually he just possessed

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it's a variant or if it's you know, always body

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possessed him, I don't know about that. So we can

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have some fun if this rumor is true of one armus, like,

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that'd be cool. Is there any other actresses out there

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right now that the other one? I thought, which could

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but it's been rumored before, so again people are kind

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of drawing the line of who could she be playing

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Speaker 2: I'd be okay with it. I mean, she's she's a

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fantastic actress, she really is, and I think she would

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definitely have that level of uh like dominance to her

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and and and and discipline as well as a as

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a doom So I'd be on board. For that for

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for sure. And uh, I mean she's with Tom Cruise right,

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so I mean not anymore. Oh when did this happen?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, how long way together?

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Speaker 1: For I don't know that far. I got a couple

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of months.

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Speaker 2: Having fun making movies. Well that's the shame. I was

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gonna say. If she got her foot in the door

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was working with Disney, then that means they're one step

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closer getting Tom just having fun man making movies, big adventure,

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having a great time.

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Speaker 1: Did you do it for Father's Day? It just such

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a respought. So yeah, I don't I don't think the

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cruise thing is happening anymore. But yeah, I'm just trying

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to think if there's anybody else around that could make

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like a good ud Like I know they're out there,

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a Kate Lynchez, she's in the mcucho there on, she's

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that gear, but maybe i'd like to see her try hmm. Yeah,

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actresses that have been doing some stuff lately, but no,

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so, uh says would it be cool?

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Speaker 1: Would be cool if it was kry Colin. She's already

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the voice of Ironman's AI. Yeah she is, is carry connon.

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of what's the lady from in Findy War she's with

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in Santos's Black Army there or whatever? Oh her, it's

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another actress. I don't know why I'm taking us down

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this path.

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Speaker 2: I know what you mean.

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Speaker 1: I know you mean because they had some issue. Yeah,

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they had some issue where they wouldn't pay her a

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certain amount, so she didn't come back. But at first

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I thought it was kry Coln, But no, I can't

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find it, so if Jack can let me know who

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it was. And I can't remember because Ebney, mah, there's god,

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then there's the big guy, and then there's her and

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I can't remember. But yeah, Kerry Connon, that could be fun,

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even though I don't know. I wonder if she's gonna

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be in the uh the vision show. That's Kerry Coon,

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Thank you very much. I feel like I always get

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those two mixed up all the time, but uh, thank you, Mike. Yeah,

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there we go. We'll tar it for sad break and

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we'll be he right back and we're back. So I

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don't know, kind of interesting. Well, I guess we can

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talk about this. I was gonna move us over to DC,

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but we can quickly talk about this as of right now.

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I guess he was being interviewed for something else, and

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it was talked about with Michael Giacchino that right now

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that Marvels students are reportably developing a sequel to Werewolf

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by Night, Obviously, that does not mean it's for sure happening.

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a Blade movie, so it said that it could just

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of gone away. But I guess I guess I'm kind

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of wrong because I was to say presentations, we got

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Guardians and we got Work by Night and then they

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were done. Right. It's like for the live action ones,

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we got nothing else. It was just over. You got

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those two and that's it. And then next year we

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are getting Punisher, and then if we're doing Werewolf by Night.

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you feel about a Werewolf by Night? Two like, what

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would you want covered? And also do you think that

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they're shifting back to more special presentations and why? Because

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it seems like they kind of took a break, but

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now Punisher in this it sounds like they're maybe gearing

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up this again. So yeah, what are your thoughts on this.

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park for me, really really loved it. And oh I

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wish I could remember what his name was, was like

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Fred or greg Or? Yeah, those mad things like simple

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simple to name?

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I really really liked it. And else a bloodstone being

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in there they ted, that's right, ted, So everything that

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they were introducing and there, I was just eating it up.

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I really just need to know where those characters are

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at right now and then so if that means we

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get another like a sequel special presentation, then sure, time

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it with Halloween. Make it another horror picture. I'd really

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really like that. I'd like to see what they're up

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to very very much. So I'm on board with it.

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I think again, it was pretty successful. I don't remember

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anyone saying anything really bad about it or really hating

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on it. It was a great sixty minute thing, so

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let's keep it going.

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Speaker 1: I think people like them. I think it's just the

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case of we were wondering how much budgetary wise, it

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made sense, right because if you get because maybe the Guardians,

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but do you think there's anybody that subscribed to Disney

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I'm sure there's some massive World by Night fan, But

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if it is, it's it's not many, right, Like there's

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not tons where at least with the show with Thokwa

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or Eve Miss Marvel, which obviously didn't do the greatest ratings.

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and you like it, you could stay subscribed for multiple

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weeks because it's a show that goes on for six

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to eight episodes, right where this is just a one shot.

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but you know, I don't know if they would do

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it here. Same thing with even with Punisher, Like I

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love Punisher, but I don't know if there's anybody it's like,

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I have to see this. I still think it's a

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mistake that they're not. They did this with Mawana, They're

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doing this with Manuan and Grogu. I don't know why

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they're not putting Punisher out. It's just like a hour

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and a half hour twenty five low budget action movie,

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you know, Like I actually think if you kept the

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budget relatively low, it would make a profit. Drop that

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thing in February before spiering, because next year all they

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have I know they have Spider Man, but that doesn't

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count because it's a Sony movie. Still, all they have

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is Doomsday. So I don't know why they don't, so

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it's just that they got away from oh, why should

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we make these specials if maybe won't have the retention rate? Right? So,

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do you think that means we're getting more of these

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if the shows are kind of I'm not done, but

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we only got Vision Quests right now and wonder like

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live action shows right now, like Vision Quests and wonder Man,

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and same with Star Wars right we only got ahsokas

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the live action shows on both sides are are pretty

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small as far as the offerings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to say we're done, but I

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think they're going to be very careful about it. Because

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what was that article that we're talking about where Kevin

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Faigi was not really a part of the MCU shows,

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and he was talking about how something with the MCU

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shows kind of we're damaging the brand or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he just have time to oversee all that stuff

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and everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, so there's a lot of there is a

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lot of issues because like I have not gone and

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watched Ironheart, haven't finished it, and that What Condas show.

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I've not started that, but yeah, yeah, and I feel

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like I need to be on top of those things

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and watch them, like and just kind of have a

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better understanding of the overall narrative of the MCU. But

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I'll get to them eventually. But that's just something where

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I feel like, Okay, if you're not on board with

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watching the show, like Miss Marvel, while this character is

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gonna not make much sense when you get into you know,

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Marvel two or the Marvels or you know Matt Murdock

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and Daredevil, right, it's like, oh, we're missing out on

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some key context.

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Speaker 1: Or even one in Doctor Strange right again. But for

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her to have kids, it's like, how did that happen

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if you didn't watch her show, right.

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Speaker 2: That's right. But maybe that's the uh, maybe that's the

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catch here. If you do a show that's like six

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to eight episodes and each episode is like twenty to

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thirty minutes, it's a longer grind as opposed to, hey,

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we do a special presentation, it's sixty minutes, you know, boom,

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it's easy. We can cover a lot of ground and

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something like that. And I think that, hey, maybe maybe

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that's where they meet in the middle. Maybe that's where

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they win. They're very selective over it. But if you

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do special presentation, hour long shows for these select characters,

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and you make it like a multi like I don't

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want to say season because they're our long single entities.

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maybe they do a third one and it could just

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be kind of like this ever expanding and furthering narrative

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for this character. I think that's the way to go

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about it, for sure. And it's a lot easier for

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people to watch than eight episodes that are all twenty

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minutes half an hour, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially if it's not I don't know relatively, that's

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one thing you got a better chance of someone clicking

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on just a fifty two hour twenty special even if

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it's meh reviewed or versus a series. If it's met reviewed,

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do you want to pour? Like you said, a couple

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hours into it, maybe not? So Yeah, it's interesting, Like

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I'm just so curious how obviously we still got the

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Warner Brothers purchase to go and we don't know because

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Netflix has been trying to get it. Now then there's

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all these talks of Saudy and stuff, so it's like,

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who knows what happens there? You got Netflix and then

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like gues stuff because they're like the king of streamers, right,

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and then you have Apple and Amazon who are doing

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these big things with streamers. But at the same time,

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it doesn't matter, Like those streaming services could lose money

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for the next five to ten years, it wouldn't even

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matter for those companies. I guess it's a side thing.

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So those are bad peacock, it's that's what we'll have

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to see. And hey, big thing for them because obviously

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they're getting tarryor Sheridan in a few years, so they'll

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get to bring over him and hopefully get some talent paramount.

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Plus if they hopefully get Warner Brothers. Not hopefully for me,

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hopefully for them. They can fill it in. That's where

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it's what Disney. It's in an interesting spot because like

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their brands right now are I won't say they're dead,

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but they're definitely damaged. Right Marvel's not as strong as

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once was, and Disney wasn't strong, So it's like at

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their height, they had some shows that didn't work out

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and weren't successful, and now it's like they're not even

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at their height anymore. We have to see how Secret

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Wars and Manwar and Grogu and Starfire and Doomsday and

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how they kind of bounce back from all that. But

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it's what Disney's gonna be very interesting to see what

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they do the next few years. So I'm surprised. I

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was surprised by Punisher, and then I'm surprised by this because,

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like I said, we saw Mando and we saw more

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want or to go to movies, So I thought, oh,

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anything they want to do a special, they go to movies.

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I could understand where Wherewolf by Night might be better

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on Disney. Plus, because I don't know how that would

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open as a movie, so I would get that Punisher,

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as I stayed earlier, I don't get. But for me,

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I hope this means we're just getting more back into

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the supernatural side of things. I hope that means that

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we're getting really I hope this means we can get

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this going and then Blade can eventually happening and we

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can start cooking on that side, because I think it'd

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be a great thing to focus on. If you get

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the X Men over there, you kind of hopefully re

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establish the Avengers. You always got Spider Man, and then

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you got the Fantastic Four, and then you got the

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supernatural side, which is Blade, doctor Strange, et cetera. So

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I kind of hope that happens. Obviously, to me, I

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really won't believe until Blades up and running, because I

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feel like he would be a key part to that.

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But yeah, I'm all for it. I love that special

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with tons of fun. I'd like to say it becomes

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a yearly Halloween thing, but I didn't watch this year,

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but I'd like to try to put it on the list.

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But no, I enjoyed it, so I'll definitely take more

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of it. So anything else, no, No, nothing well on

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that side, let's see here.

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Speaker 2: So