Speaker 1: All Star Toyota presents off the Bench with Jacob Hester
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Speaker 2: Driven'sday.
Speaker 3: Hester and Hester got it.
Speaker 1: You're locked in to Off the Bench Control live from
the Mercedes Benz of Baton Rouge Studio. Here's Jacob Hester
and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 4: James Welcome, Welcome Tuesday morning. Here on OTB one O
four five, ESPN, Baton Rouge, Jake Flynn, Elandra Taylor all
here with you.
Speaker 2: Not LSU game week.
Speaker 4: But as we said yesterday week zero game week, so
we are finally here.
Speaker 2: Flynn, how you doing, how you're living?
Speaker 5: I'm doing great. It's LSU week in my heart right now.
I'm getting ready. I'm sure the team's preparing, but I'm
also preparing, getting ready for my cheers. My I don't
know my pre game I say fears, I fee I
got a little fear for sure. I think we all
got a little fear for an opening game, an l
s U opening game. But I'm excited. I can't wait.
Starting to lose sleep, starting to get a little bit
more energy, little juice at night thinking about the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's getting ready? How are you gonna take the
game in?
Speaker 5: You know, I was hoping that I would be able
to take it in in my favorite way, which is
just pretty much at home, by yourself, by myself for
my family. Around about I got an eighty five inch
TV in my living Oh money, now we talked about yesterday.
TV's are cheap and I like to and I like
to stand about thirteen inches away from it and have
to like move my head left or right when I
watch it. That's my favorite way to do it it.
Sometimes I'm a bad father because my kids are trying
to talk to me and some intens is happening.
Speaker 6: Not now, yell at them, you yell at m Yeah.
Speaker 5: Now that's yeah. I usually enjoy taking it in by
myself because I like to hear the commentary. I like
to get in my feels. I do not enjoy being
at watch parties. I do not enjoy watching it at
a restaurant or in a loud place where I can't
where there's like music playing, right, I have to be
able to hear it, So that's.
Speaker 7: What I do not like to do. Sounds like you're
a lot of fun to watch it with. I'm a
blast absolute blast. I do enjoy watching it with buddies
that do understand football. Yeah, it does out.
Speaker 5: But no, I think the we're actually going on a
little quick weekend excursion trip the kid is because they're
off for I guess it's what is it labor day?
Labor days that follow money? So what we're doing for
uh day off of school already?
Speaker 8: I know, wait, labor days not until September, Yeah, the
September after the game, okay September.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, So like they have a longer weekend. Obviously,
I'm not We're not going to be gone for the
longer weekend because we're going to be doing this radio show.
But we're gonna go stay. We're going We're going to
stay somewhere for a couple of nights. The kids love
a hotel. Man love a hotel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who doesn't, uh?
Speaker 4: The hotel movie and a club sandwich with fries and
a diet code.
Speaker 2: I'm telling nothing, hits utopia.
Speaker 5: Like we've taken into some really cool places like cities
on these trips and stuff like it doesn't matter. All
they want to do is get room service and like
get a movie on their iPad or something, or watch
a movie like those twenty four dollars movies at a hotel. Oh,
so then we've done that and we're like, all right,
well let me just do like a staycation and we'll
just put it. They have just as much fun doing
that then going to a cool place.
Speaker 2: So it sounds like you're gonna be in Baton Rouge
in a hotel.
Speaker 5: No, we're gonna be We're gonna be out of the
city limits.
Speaker 2: I don't know where.
Speaker 5: I can't remember where, but we will be there, and
I will be watching that game with full volume, not
in a crowded area.
Speaker 4: I do a guarantee a lingerie. Are you or Taylor either,
when you like do anything for the game?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 3: Not this game?
Speaker 2: Yeah you're yeah, you're good.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm good for this game. I'll be watching somewhere.
I don't know yet, but I'll be there watching. Jayden
Daniels is still really good at football. I don't know
if we ever decide did if he was or not,
but he's good at football.
Speaker 5: Just a lucky season.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 5: Good for us.
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow still Joe Burrow. Yeah, O line is still
that O line.
Speaker 5: I saw one I saw that one clip that was
the only clip I saw from the game last night.
Come on, Joe, I want to protecting these.
Speaker 2: Yeah, protect everything he did all that to go down.
Speaker 5: Can you imagine if that wasn't Joe Burrow, how bad,
like what a negative grade he would have got? Third
string quarterbacks? You cut your cut?
Speaker 4: That's something that you would see, you know, from Jake Hayner.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. It's like, if you're a third string guy,
the coach might run on the field to cut you.
Speaker 6: Right there after that.
Speaker 5: But if Joe Burrow, the coach runs out there to
see if.
Speaker 3: You get.
Speaker 8: They wanted to play more and more preseason games, and
I'm like, maybe this is why he shouldn't.
Speaker 5: Here is your sign?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 2: Howard? Are you working the game? Do you know how?
Speaker 10: You actually do not know yet. We will find out
plight Thursday.
Speaker 2: All right, So I'm the only boots in the ground there,
that's what you are telling me?
Speaker 3: I think?
Speaker 2: So, yeah, sure, Just you know, if I had maybe
a teammate or.
Speaker 3: Too, I can ask Chris, Hey.
Speaker 2: Hey, Chris, I think I need to go to the.
Speaker 3: You need an extra engineer.
Speaker 5: It would be your teammate. You would ditch us at
the game, go call it.
Speaker 2: I might get you a spot in the booth.
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't know if I want to be
in the booth. Didn't you say it's really quiet and
you can't like cheer.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a press box.
Speaker 3: In the press box, you can't like our booth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're supposed to be loud.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, yeah, I'll do that.
Speaker 4: We're trying to give the call for the home team.
You know, we can, we can be as biased as
we want to.
Speaker 10: Instead of like putting up a crowd mic. It's just
a Flynn mic and you're in the background yelling.
Speaker 5: Yeah. We kept put that one on YouTube.
Speaker 4: It is like depending on where our booth is, I
forget which game it was actually knows bull game, his
ball game where the replay booth was right next to us,
so we could see how the whole process of how
they were going through the plays and how they were
going to call it. And you know, I might have
yelled a couple of things at them after a couple
of plays.
Speaker 2: I feel like they got wrong.
Speaker 4: They have like a literal like video game controller too.
That's the whole replay booth that's full of people.
Speaker 5: Huh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're going through I would process.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's like a little video game remote and
they're like going through all the different angles that they
have and you know, making decisions. It's really like one
guy and like everybody else kind of comes to that
guy and they're like giving their their two cents on it.
I'd like to say, interesting, I'd like to see all
this dummies work. And then sometimes we'll get coaches next
to us. That's what it's really fun. And they try
to like put up like construction paper or something like
so you can't see in there. Found my way by
a little crease, find a little.
Speaker 2: Crack into there.
Speaker 5: What do you do? What are you looking for? Uh?
Speaker 4: Connor Stallions? Yeah, you're taking some pictures texting as coach.
I mean, if you're not, are you really trying?
Speaker 2: I know? Are you a fan?
Speaker 5: Are you a fan? We didn't say anything about cheating.
We didn't say anything about cheating. It's like playing cards.
Keep the kids out the street and if you don't
want people to look, yeah you know what I mean? Yeah,
protect your cards? Were you but if you're holding your
if you're fanning out your cards, make sure no one
can see it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you weren't.
Speaker 4: You weren't on O T B whenever in Michigan initially,
So Flynn came on his once a month Wednesday spot
and once a quarter, Yeah, and he was talking about
it and he went into a deep dive on how
he was the guy that.
Speaker 2: Would steal the signals when he was with Green Bay.
Speaker 4: But like not like communications or being on their sideline
and glasses, but he would look across the field and
he'd find out who was live and you can get
their signals and different things. And so, yeah, he had
his own take on the the Michigan stuff.
Speaker 5: Well, there's a there's a line that needs to be drawn.
It's kind of like in baseball, like you should be
able to rip signals in baseball. I don't think you
should have devices that you you beep into or anything
like that.
Speaker 8: I think that if you pick it up of somebody
doing it on the sideline and you notice a pattern
or whatever, like that's kind of on that.
Speaker 5: Yeah. But if I'm like, if you're in disguise on
the other team's sideline, that's.
Speaker 6: A little such star.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but like if you are ripping signals, that is
fair game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 10: It's it's the fairness part, right. Anybody can do it.
Anybody can cause you could say this gives us an
unfair advantage. Uh No, a larger's team could do it.
My team could do exactly either way.
Speaker 5: Stop signaling, make your signals better, be better, It'll be dumb.
Uh Yeah, So I would sit there and rip signals.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 5: What's to stop me from telling the quarterback who's on
the field what the play is. Who's to stop me?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Why wouldn't I do that?
Speaker 2: I'm with you, like that's a skill. I am with you.
Speaker 5: He does have a speaker at his helmet, why wouldn't.
Speaker 4: Oh, it is all like one of my favorite things
to watch, especially in a college game before they got
the you know, the commns and their helmets, they would
have four guys a lot of times, backup quarterbacks, sometimes
gas they would have four guys and I used to
love it when it was the gas and they'd all
be in different colors, which come to teletubbies. They'd all
be in different colors and they'd all be signaling, and
they would try to hide who was live, and it
was so easy.
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, watch all these guys.
Speaker 4: Get give me four plays, and I can tell you
which one's live, because the one that's live as soon
as he finishes, the quarterback is going to turn away
as soon as he is. And you can tell in
four plays that there's four guys doing for sure.
Speaker 5: The only year you couldn't was in two thousand and
three here at LSU because your boy right here was
the fake signaler, the decoy signaler, and I was pretty
elite at it. I had the headset on with the
wire that was tucked into the back of my pants,
so I didn't even try to make it look like
I was actually plugged in. It was just sucked into
my jock strap, not even a battery pack, but I was.
I was signaling so great I don't even remember what
I was doing.
Speaker 4: And also have better signals, like if you have a
lasso protection and I'm looking over and you're going like.
Speaker 5: This is that? The most college football thing is seeing
all those all those people on the sidelines and then
the card.
Speaker 3: I hate the cards, like that is very college football.
Speaker 5: There's nothing that says slap count more than a big
card holding up a big card.
Speaker 8: But the most random things on Yeah, it's like four
and that has the most random stuff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just like man put the speaker on the helmet, right.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad they did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was so I was. I. I would turn
games off sometimes when I would see too much of
that on the sideline.
Speaker 4: Now you can still get some signals from dbs and quarterbacks,
well for quarterbacks going to receivers after the fact they're
making some changes.
Speaker 2: Dbs are the easiest target. Yeah, still a sign.
Speaker 5: The target was the target was always the dB coach
and then the DBS because the linebacker, I mean the
linebacker had the speaker, so he would always sit there
so he would always call the play so verbally call it.
But the dbs oftentimes wouldn't run all the way in
because they got to run along the way. They got
to get ready for the next play. And the DV
coach would signal to the DB's the play, so I
would That's who I would target every game, and then
the and then the safeties would do a lot of signaling.
There was blitz signals that the linebackers would give to
the dbs are Durham blitzes and things like that, but
it was always the dB coach. There was this one
dB coach that did not like me very much because
he knew it, and he would try to hide from me.
And then I'd have guys on my team trying to
hide me, and I would sneak around. I would stalk
around the sideline. He would stalk around the sideline. And
then I went to this. I went to Seattle, and
I'm sitting there playing We're playing the same team.
Speaker 4: So the dB coach from either the Bears the Vikings
are the Lions, got.
Speaker 5: It h the Lions, and so we played I was
in Seattle and then we played that team, played the Lions,
and so I think we played them in We were
playing them in Toronto that year anyway, So same dB
coach and I'm like, all right, for sure, they're not
going to do the same signals four years in a row.
They had to have changed him by now. He's doing
the same signals. And I'm just sitting there watching him.
I'm not even trying to hide. I'm just watching them
because y'all, y'all know I ripping those signals for the
Seattle Seattle at the time those signals. I'm looking at
this guy and I'm like, huh, oh my god. I
was like he does have new signals, like, I don't
recognize any of these things. After the first drive, I
don't know, they went down kick a field goal or something.
He turns and he looks me in the eye and
he points at me and he and he wags his
finger and he goes, no, no, no, I just started.
I busted out laughing, and I was like, I like
tip my cap to him. I waved at him. And
but after that drive they went back to the same signals.
But you know I wasn't relaying those signals over there.
Speaker 2: No, no, let Russ cook.
Speaker 5: Let him cook.
Speaker 2: He doesn't need it.
Speaker 5: He doesn't need it.
Speaker 2: To be dangerous out there.
Speaker 5: Yeah. It was good. It was good, clean fun. And
that's what it means by keep the kids out the street. Yeah,
that's what it means. That's what you're playing cards like,
all right?
Speaker 2: If you're playing no, yeah, you're not on the street.
Speaker 5: I can see you got that that uh draw four, Yeah,
I can see it. Yeah. We'll reverse it though.
Speaker 4: And if you're ever playing against my son, honey, check
under his legs for extra cards. That's right, how do
you hear me?
Speaker 3: If you're ever.
Speaker 2: No, he's gonna get you to.
Speaker 5: Hester House.
Speaker 4: That's the one that's the one you gotta watch there,
of all days, that's the one you gotta watch.
Speaker 2: Old Jimmy, he's the next Connor.
Speaker 5: Uh fake mustache.
Speaker 4: Nah No, that's too much work. He's my slicker with
it too. He wouldn't have got caught. All right, we'll
take our first break of the show. Like Tata uh mentioned,
I think he mentioned on there, L she does have
some changes in the starting lineup, So.
Speaker 2: We'll throw it to Tata.
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Speaker 2: All right, Tay with your LSU practice reports.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Hunt Palmer posted this on Louisiana Sports dot Net
yesterday and you know, some some interesting notes practices. You know,
we weren't able to go out there over the weekend.
I think the last time media was available was like
last oursday. But Haunt had his practice report yesterday. He
was able to go out. There's early practice said, shake
ups along the offensive line. So Paul Mabinga at left
guard instead of DJ Chester. Now that's not a big
one because those two guys have kind of been going
back and forth. But Curious Kern running with the Ones
at right tackle, Weston Davis running with the two so
interesting for a couple of reasons. One the coaches have
been pretty high on Weston Davis all camp long. And two,
Curious Kern's been running second team left tackle, so they've
moved Curious Kurrent to the right side. They've inserted him
in the starting lineup. And Hunt report he says that
Kerrent had been there. I mean, you know, they got
to watch about twenty minutes of Kerrent was pretty much
with the Ones the entire time. And another interesting note,
like we had talked about it last week and I
had mentioned that, you know, the dB room, the corners
of safeties, they have kind of rotated in and out,
but the starters have kind of remained the same. Right
Ashton Stamps was not in the starting lineup yesterday.
Speaker 6: It was Mansor Delane and PJ. Woodland.
Speaker 10: We're actually with the ones, Stamps and DJ Pickett, we're
with the twos and PJ.
Speaker 6: Woodland has had a heck of a camp. He's made
a lot of plays, but.
Speaker 2: Made an interception of the Dave Flynn and I went
out there.
Speaker 10: Interesting that the week before game week they they kind
of flipped this.
Speaker 6: To me, that means one of two things.
Speaker 10: Either stamps of Davis who really struggling and they saw
a weakness, or these other two guys have really stepped
it up. So I mean, you could look at it
positive or negative. But I think that scrimmage on Saturday
that's open to the medial tell a lot about where
this team is starting lineup was But I just thought
it was interesting because again, we had seen a ton
of rotation. The starters had kind of been the same,
but yesterday they were not.
Speaker 4: So I'll start with the defensive backs. I don't necessarily
think that's a big deal. That is a position that
is going to rotate guys in and out. And maybe
it's a situation where PJ Woodland is pushing and pushing
and pushing. Like you said, he's had a really good
training camp and so they're like, Okay, well we got
to get some one reps because he's going to be
in there with the same group of guys.
Speaker 2: And we just talked about sign stealing with DB's.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot of communication that happens between dbs,
and so they want to get him in there. Hey,
we want to make sure y'all are going to be
on the same page, because look, PJ. Woodland is going
to play in every game this year. Even if he
would have been like a two, he would have played
in every single game. ASH Stamps are going to play
in every single game this year. Both those players will
play with the Ones. And so when I look at that,
and I don't know if you disagree, I think that's
probably just say, hey, let's get you in here. You've
earned the right to be with the ones. You're going
to be with the one some let's get you some reps.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it can be one of many things.
I mean, we saw a Saints camp Ja Kynner go
with the Ones multiple days, right, doesn't necessarily mean like
a starting lineup has been named or in the dB room, like,
I want to know what our base personnel like is
it are we are? We nickel? Because there's probably gonna
be three cornerbacks in the game for most of the game.
So there's three starting cornerbacks.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean what, so what would you call this
is kind of going back to the conversation that we
had just yesterday. I'm expecting it to be four defensive linemen.
All right, four DB's, two linebackers in a star. What
are you gonna call that?
Speaker 5: Maybe on first down?
Speaker 2: I think probably first second that's bab.
Speaker 5: That is just base.
Speaker 2: I mean it's gonna be I think it is like
all jokes.
Speaker 5: If you don't have five, if you don't have five DB's,
it's a base d.
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be that on first and second
down most times, and then when it becomes thirdy eight,
then you go to true.
Speaker 5: It just kind of depends on how the game is
going because like because you got I mean, you do
have that element, the kid clubnic element been able to
run the bro Like, look, they're returning their top three
pass catchers and they they're going to throw the ball,
So you have to have five dbs out there, like
you can. You can say Harold Perkins is great in
past coverage all you want, but I would disagree with that.
I think he's probably good and manageable, but he's not
going to be a guy that's gonna stop through the
top guys in the country that are returning with one
of the top quarterbacks in the country, Like, it's not
it's just not gonna happen. Maybe fall maybe falls into
an intertation.
Speaker 4: Last year when they play DJ Lagway Now Lagwayaway was
a little obviously, well a hamstring so he's a little
injured obviously in that contest, and you know it was
game time decision. But I mean they stayed in that
base personnel with Devine keys at the star position a
lot of the game. He's a linebacker, So yep, there
you go, you got there, You got there, buddy. Well,
it felt like you weren't going to answer if I
kept saying it. But that's what I mean, that's what
they call it.
Speaker 5: Yep. So I'm based on the price for poor yesday.
But it's been delaying, that's been playing the nickel when
they've gone five d's five. DB's right for the most part.
Speaker 10: For the most Again, it's it's hard to tell we're
when we're out there. They're running base a lot and
it's Perkins in that star that you.
Speaker 2: That like, that is there that is their go to formation.
Speaker 5: Like he's like kind of been I mean, get what
you're saying, but yeah, I got it. I don't love it.
I don't feel great about it. I'm sure Clemson loves it.
I'm just saying like I would like to see that
if I'm an offensive coordinator and I had my top
three guys returning and top two or three quarterback in
the country, I would love it.
Speaker 6: Let me let me.
Speaker 10: Ask you how you feel about this, because we talked
about it a little bit last week, and uh Hunt mentions
it in the report that like Jordan Gilbert's, we could
exclusively at the star behind Perkins. So let's say they
just take Perkins off the field and put in Gilbert
on third down.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't take Perkins off the field, but when.
Speaker 4: It would come true third down, Look, I found a
place for him, and I don't think any of us.
Speaker 5: But he's not gonna play strong safety in the NFL.
He's not gonna be a past defender. So that's what
when you have when you're going against Clemson, you gotta
have five pass defenders out there, true past coverage people.
I don't think Harold Perkins is threatening to be a
safety in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Even with all the even with all the Q run stuffs,
you still would keep it the same just because the ability.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why he's dangerous because he can throw it
in run it. Go watch his film. He makes every
throw That's why I would find a place for him.
That's not that's gonna put him in Pascar. Like you,
They're not gonna run run pass, run, run pass, first
second down, run, third down pass, it's not gonna happen.
They're gonna try to do a little bit that early on.
But I like to mix it. I don't like to
say like that's the majority of what we're in. I
don't like. I don't loved hearing that. Yeah, you gotta
mix it up. You gotta move put Harld Perkins at
that position some but you gotta move them around. You
gotta put his hand in the dirt, you gotta put
him inside, You gotta walk. You gotta have three I
would put I would do three down linemen, three linebackers,
and five DB's.
Speaker 4: Well I want to see, yeah, I want to see
what they do end up doing on third down though,
like what like I'm talking about jas Packard, look well
that when we say third down, it used to be
like Matt somebody used to be run, run pass, run
around pass, run round pass like that's how college football
used to be. Now that's not like third down personnel
doesn't necessarily even mean third down. It kind of just
means like your sub like passing situation, which anytime obviously
in college football can be that.
Speaker 2: But there's gonna be a change up.
Speaker 4: There's going to be a situation where you have five
true defensive backs on the field with Perkins on the field.
Speaker 5: Yep, I just don't so. But the only thing that
worries me. And okay, all right, everybody, I know we're listening.
We're not getting into this argument about star anymore. We've
already I've already won that argument. I'm just talking about
like philosophy going into the game because every time I
ask about nickel personnel, who's the nickel everyone like pauses
and gets quiet, like that hasn't been a big emphasis
in camp running that personnel when it should one hundred percent. Though, Well,
I'm telling you that's an issue. Just telling you it's
an issue. I don't want to say that. I don't
want to be that guy. Feels like you do. If
you were the offensive coordinator for Clemson and you had
Cape car Club, Nick, Yeah, your top three receivers coming back.
What personnel would you like to see? If you said,
I'm playing one of the top teams in the country,
they're gonna play base personnel for the snaps, look about.
Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying, but I also I'm just
telling you, like he's.
Speaker 5: Gonna hit that back Harolds and hit that back pedal up.
Speaker 4: I'm just telling what they did last year and what
they feel Harold Perkins can do in coverage.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 4: So I'm watching watching old miss from last year right
now currently, it's on my laptop. All right, full miss,
sub personnel, eleven personnel. I want to run the football,
but eleven personnel. And for a majority of the game,
you had your four d linemen, you had your two
line backers, stack backers, and you had Major Burns at
the star position. I think Harrol burn Harrol Burns, Harold
Perkins is more athletic than Major Burns, okay, and could
be as good or maybe better in coverage. Okay, but
that's who and he was close to the box the
entire game. Remember last year, Devon Keys replaced Major Burns
at the star at the back end of the year.
So that is that is what like that is who
they are that they want to use a backer in
that position.
Speaker 5: Got it. I hope it works. I hope we win
about fifty. I hope Haryl Perkins has thirty eight interceptions
this year, one hundred and twelve past deflections. What's he's Wayne,
what's he weighing right now?
Speaker 2: I think you're sleeping on his skills a little bit.
Speaker 5: I'm not sleeping on covered skills again, Like this was
I think, can you play monument defender? Can you play
curl flat defender? Can he play zones? Yeah? I think so, think,
I think he's I think he's one of the greatest
athletes in college football. Got a potential to be what
your what all American Michaelander said, maybe a Heisman finalist?
Who knows? Then?
Speaker 2: What like what are you reserved about?
Speaker 5: Then?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 2: What do you think he can't do? He's not a
defensive back that a strong safety can do.
Speaker 5: He's not a defensive back. And I understand I want
three corners in the game.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you want to take the safety out.
Speaker 5: Of this equation to safety three corners, that's.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying you want to take because last year
it was a strong safety or a linebacker that played
the Nickel Star whatever did you?
Speaker 5: Would you say that we were satisfied with our defense
last year?
Speaker 2: It's much better than the year before.
Speaker 5: Hope.
Speaker 4: Hey, everybody, I'm just look, Cathley got a better defense.
I'm not trying to argue what you're arguing. I'm just
telling you that is who they are, that is what
they want to do. So you can want and wish
and hope, but this is going to be.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm doing. I'm wanting, I'm wishing, I'm hoping,
I'm wanting, I'm wishing, I'm hoping. I'm just telling you
from the other side, I would love to not see
five bps and as personnelity.
Speaker 4: You know what though, me as a running back, I'd
love to see five bbs. So I mean you could
have that argument, okay, I would love I would love
to look up and be like, oh, they got three
corners out the great if we run right.
Speaker 5: At them, hester at fullback, two tight ends and a
running back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not playing fullback in this equation.
Speaker 5: What person is going to be.
Speaker 2: That doesn't ye it does that doesn't mean, that does not.
Speaker 4: Mean you can't Oh miss lived in eleven and they
ran the football as much as anybody tones see lives
in eleven. They ran the football as much as anybody.
They're running back was offensive player of the year in
the SEC. Everybody runs out of eleven, now I know.
Speaker 5: And everybody runs five dvs against eleven.
Speaker 2: And then maybe that's why they have success.
Speaker 4: Everything about that this is let mean self described. All right,
we gotta take a break. We got to get to
the offensive line portion of what Tata said there as well.
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the break. That's awesome, all right, So the offensive line,
that is a bigger deal to me than the DB's.
The DB's all those guys are gonna play. I think
that's more of a hey, we expect you to be
a one. Even if you're a two, you're a one.
So we're gonna get you out here for the offensive line.
We've been here and everything in the days that I've
been out there, tackle has looked good.
Speaker 2: Boat tackles will look great, and so maybe that's a maybe.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's a situation where okay, hey, if we have
an injury, let's see, you got to be our swing tackle.
You gotta be able to play both. The DJ Chester
stuff is the more interesting note to me, Like, think
about this, he was on an offensive line last year
where he was a starter at the most important position,
the center position, with four guys that got drafted into
the NFL. Okay, so he's a young player playing center,
making the calls, ball in his hand every play. The
other four guys get drafted. Pretty good offensive line and
now you're fighting for your life a guard. That's more
of a storyline to me than anything else. And moving
A played when Dellinger went down last year. Okay, so
we expect him to play, like at least I did.
Like the DJ Chester stuff is interesting, Like you were
a starter on that offensive line and now you're fighting
for any spot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what's funny is like at the center position, at
most positioned interior offensive lineman, Like if you have a
guy and I'm not I'm not saying this is him
at all, but like if you have a guy in
one of those interior spots that's a little bit weaker
of an offensive lineman, not as strong, but you have
guys around him. They can be hidden, Like you can
hide them. They can look really good multiple times in
the in the NFL, we had real so agreement. We
had like this kind of this formula of two really
good guards and a young, smaller center. Remember Corey Linsley
getting to Yeah he charge Corey Lindsley great player. Yeah,
so I'm not saying any but he was able to
start as a rookie because he had two Pro Bowl
guards around him. We had Bacteriori and Blogga at tackles too,
So it was like a good surrounding for so, Like
it's a kind of a good comparison to what you're
talking about here, Like everybody was good, all the offensive lineman,
but we had this young center that was ended up
looking great, playing great because he had all that help
around him, and you can kind of hide that. But
when all those pieces are gone, what kind of player
do they step up to be? So we're still trying
to figure that out. A lot of that. I mean,
you know, you still need a six seven eight man
rotation at offensive lineman because they're all gonna play. They're
all gonna play a lot of football, I guess, just
because that's the that's the nature of the Beast. But
it is interesting you go from that offensive line in
the top pass blocking offensive line in the country. Yeah,
to fighting a dog.
Speaker 2: Fight, which is it might be the odd man out.
Speaker 5: Which is actually might be played devil's advocate. I mean,
really good sign for that offense line. It means guys
are stepping up, playing well. Brian Kelly seems to think
that he's very confident in the offensive line, so I
think that we should be too.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 5: I think it's I know it's this big question mark,
but I firmly feel that they're gonna step and be sufficient. Now.
There's gonna be some gaffs here and there. There's gonna
be some sack given, there's gonna be pressures, there's gonna
be bad runs, you know, and it's gonna be so
highlighted early on in the season because of the question marks.
I'm like, oh god, he's doing this. It happens to everybody.
We had one of the best offensive lines last year,
but we couldn't run block like that. It's just gonna
like things are gonna happen. So you gotta give them
a little time. You got to give them a little
time to gel and that's what campus for you. Hope
you get a lot of those kinks out, But they
got to grow up fast. They got to grow up
really fast, I.
Speaker 4: Mean and too like when you have a move like
this after a scrimmage, I mean, coaches.
Speaker 2: And a lot of people, I mean, hand up. We
overreact to scrimmages.
Speaker 4: And if you didn't have a good day on the ponderosa, yep,
it's like you you put somebody on notice as well.
Speaker 5: How many times did you get a coach put somebody
with the second team to make a point to that player?
Speaker 2: Oh, all the time, all the time.
Speaker 5: It doesn't mean that they're gonna be on second but
they're like, all right, you better pick your stuff up
or you're gonna be right here. So hey, hey, buddy
behind you, you're you go in with the ones, take
a take a seat, and it just wakes up. So
coaches play those those mind tricks, those mental games all
the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, of the guys that we just assumed, like, without
a doubt, without a question, this year going to be
a starter on the offensive line, we would start with
DJ Chester and then we kind of build the other
four around that. And again it sounds like he is
fighting for a spot, not even at the same spot
that he played a year ago. So we'll see what happens.
Paul mubinga DJ Chester Weston Davis. All these guys were
talking about how that plays out, because well, next weekend,
the game is next weekend, so certainly something to pay
attention to on that offensive front. All right, we'll take
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