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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in our number three about TV
here live from the Raising Caines Studio. Let's go ahead
and get into some weekend winters.
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Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 6: We can't have anyone to freak out out there.
Speaker 3: Okay, he's got a ky bark apologer, got too far.
I'm by winning. I went here and I went there. Now,
what are you doing? What it takes to win a championship?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 3: Winning? Well, then I guess there's only one thing left
to do.
Speaker 7: What's that.
Speaker 3: Win the whole thing? All right? My first weekend winner,
it goes out to.
Speaker 4: Yale and Harvard Classic winner. They make the FCS playoffs.
Now the IVY League hasn't always allowed them to do that.
The IVY League is participating in the Football Championship Subdivision
Playoffs four the first time this season, and the conference
will be well represented They're going to have two teams. Yale,
which defeated Harvard for the IVY League Title title on
Saturday Day. They get into the field. Harvard was a
heavy favorite in the game, but Yale actually pulls off
the upset. So Yale is eight and two on the year.
They get into the field there, so Harvard nine and one.
It was the only loss of the season.
Speaker 8: I think I saw it on game because they picked
it on game day. I think they were like eleven
and a half point favorites or something like that.
Speaker 3: And so Harvard and Yale both get in. Let's see.
Speaker 4: I think Yale plays Youngstown State, who's eight and four.
Harvard is going to play Villa Nova. Not on the hardwood,
but on the grid iron. They're nine and two, So
shout out to Harvard and Yale.
Speaker 3: Yeah they are.
Speaker 4: They had the Penguins, great mascot, great uniforms, and a
lot of grit.
Speaker 3: Love that all right.
Speaker 8: My weekend Winter, my first one, the walking meing himself,
mister Jamis Winston, come.
Speaker 3: On down, let's go.
Speaker 7: They lost the game.
Speaker 8: They lost to the Lions and seven. It was in Detroit,
but Jamis wins every single week. I mean, the guy
can the guy have such a globe in the court
of public opinion? In this man, he went from taking
crab claws to be in just the absolute gem, the
greatest character, the greatest personality in the NFL. And I
don't think it's particularly close. Everywhere he goes people love him.
Everywhere he's been, people love him. Everywhere he plays, people
love him. And the guy went out and bald yesterday
three for three hundred and sixty six yards. Two tutters
did have a pick, but he rushed for thirteen yards
and then thirty three yard touchdown reception right here, Yeah,
breaks a tackle, breaks a tackle, I mean, makes a
shoulder bat shoulder catch and he's on a linebacker here,
sorry steff.
Speaker 2: Arm gorgeous And then with the.
Speaker 3: Finger roll celebration. I mean, my guy, what do y'all think?
Shep said to the defender in film today? Oh oh,
he was on.
Speaker 8: He just looked at him and since they won, he
probably I don't even need to coach this, just.
Speaker 7: Like coach who got it worse?
Speaker 9: Uh, the dB for letting Jamis score touchdown on him,
or Mason Timpton for being tackled by the kicker.
Speaker 3: The kid that's an automatic fine in the NFL.
Speaker 9: Mason Timpton almost did something good yesterday, almost.
Speaker 3: Tack returns, but he got tackled by the kid.
Speaker 7: Can't get tackled by the kicker.
Speaker 8: I mean I got And you talked about it yesterday, Lunder,
you said, you know, the interceptions with Jamis is just
part of this.
Speaker 3: Is part of it, part of the experiment, of the experience.
Speaker 8: And can you imagine James wants to being starting quarterback
for a team with Malik Neighbors on it.
Speaker 3: My god, he's he's gonna throw it. Yeah, he gonna
give you the chance.
Speaker 10: I've been a Jameis Winston truther for a very long time,
and it is It's like, it's just part of the experience.
It's okay when, like I get he had four thousand
yards last season, but us also through a good amount
of interceptions, and it's okay when he does it.
Speaker 2: But James, it's like that meme where they're like ew
or what you know, Okay, whatever, anyway.
Speaker 8: Jameis Winston a couple of interceptions. Let that man start somewhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love Jamis. I'm with him being a.
Speaker 3: QB one nine and eight and be exciting.
Speaker 2: He could have been the QB. He could have been
QB one for the Saints.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'd go nine and eight. So hard, yes, so hard.
Speaker 2: I love Jamis so much. I got another quarterback.
Speaker 3: I didn't mean the Saints.
Speaker 10: I got another quarterback that I want to give a
week in winner two Shadoor Sanders. Shout out Schadoor weekend Winter.
Speaker 2: It gets his first.
Speaker 3: Win, only one, only one week.
Speaker 10: Yeah, he was first Brown's rookie quarterback since nineteen ninety
five to secure a win in his debut.
Speaker 11: Yep.
Speaker 10: So he completed eleven of twenty passes for two hundred
and nine yards, one touchdown in one interception.
Speaker 2: So shout out to Shador. He's a winner.
Speaker 9: He's gonna be the Madden Cover Athlete next year. Shout
out man.
Speaker 4: Maybe the Browns fans will only have one jersey, the
quarterback jersey with all the names on it.
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, did you just have a Sanders one?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 8: He did make a really nice play on the run
there he did. Yeah, ol, scare was excited.
Speaker 9: Are you talking about the deep three where it got
like it w wasn't touch up but it's like inside
the five or something like that.
Speaker 2: Pretty good, So we can win.
Speaker 9: Have we seen Dylan Samson stat line this year, Dylan
Samson might have more touchdowns than yards rushing.
Speaker 7: It's incredible.
Speaker 9: Like every game Dylan Samson has like sixty yards rushing
and like three touchdowns.
Speaker 3: He did it.
Speaker 7: He did it again yesterday.
Speaker 3: I got a good young backfield there, man. They do.
Speaker 7: Dylan Sampson has been really good. Oh I'm sorry. Quinch
On Judkins is who I was talking about Sampson as well.
Speaker 3: No, Samson had big plays too.
Speaker 9: Yeah, both of them, Like they score a lot, they
don't have a ton of yards.
Speaker 3: I mean Sampson was SEC Offens Play of the Year
last year. Shut out gotta win my.
Speaker 7: First weekend winner.
Speaker 9: The ability to run the ball in college football, I
know we were talking about it. Uh, i'llsu not you
able to do that. Here's a fun little stat line
for you. This team had sixty seven yards passing, They
had time of possession disadvantage forty one minutes to eighteen minutes,
and they won the game by sixty three points. Of course,
I'm talking about Notre Dame. How did Notre Dame put
up seventy points with only eighteen minutes of game time
and sixty seven yards passing, did explosive plays.
Speaker 7: In the running game.
Speaker 9: It ran for three hundred and twenty nine yards against Syracuse.
So the ability to run the football in college weekend winter.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, it's a pretty big deal to be able
to run the football.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: Guge And when you can get it done, it opens
up a lot of different things.
Speaker 8: Yep, you got I got a winner, you got one
go ahead another week in winner. This is gonna be
two weekend winners. Watch out world from the Cleveland Browns.
They're positive Miles Garrett. Yeah, so the guy a lot
of controversy in the offseason about like, you know, I
want to be TRADEX. I want to play for a
championship unless you pay me a ton of money. Can't
blame him. I think everybody would take that. He's a
first like non quarterback to get a forty plus million
dollar contract. So he kind of a groundbreaker, record breaker,
maybe set the stage for a lot of other guys
in his positions and at other positions.
Speaker 3: To make more and more money.
Speaker 8: So a good thing, right, Well we are what is
he eleven games into the season now, he's sitting at
eighteen sacks on the season. Yep, chasing Michael Strahan's record
sack record twenty two and a half sacks as straight
hands record. Well, he's on pace for twenty seven so
far this season, so on.
Speaker 3: Pace, probably will get that record.
Speaker 4: And even I think he tweeted last night or posted something,
say he said bye bye a sack record.
Speaker 3: That's right, thirteen sacks in the last four games. It's crazy.
Speaker 8: So he's on a little bit of a heater and
pretty amazing that he continues to play for the Browns.
But he was excited when should already made that big
long throw. But we can winner on pace, we will
probably see the all time NFL sack record go down
this season. And you can't tell me about like the
sixteen games and only play seventeen because he's probably gonna
do before game sixteen.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: It's it's a lot of people are pointing to like
Miles Gartt and what he's done in Cleveland. Like, Okay,
if you want to decide between taking an edge rusher
at number one overall or a quarterback, here's maybe the
best edge rusher that we've seen in the last however
many years.
Speaker 3: And there's still the Browns.
Speaker 4: Instead of taking an edge rusher you should take a
quarterback and it doesn't.
Speaker 3: Really change the mat as much. And I kind of
get it.
Speaker 8: An edge rusher is a piece to the puzzle, and
it could be like the final piece, like of course
the Packers thought it would be the final piece. A
great running back is like the final piece, like I
said one Barkley, do the Eagles. The quarterback's the first
piece always. Oh, gross, I know you love saying that.
Of course, it is the most important position in the world.
Speaker 3: To's just curled saying that. All right for me, weekend loser.
Speaker 4: I'll be the first to be negative here. Let's go
Florida State the Seminoles. Why well, because they lose games
on the actual field and then they lose games afterwards
because they are going to retain head coach Mike norvel
for the twenty twenty six season. Over the past two years,
Florida State is seven and sixteen. They're three and thirteen
in the ACC and they haven't won a road game
in two years.
Speaker 7: It's not good.
Speaker 4: In six seasons with Florida State, Mike Norvella is thirty
eight and thirty three with only two winning seasons.
Speaker 3: So despite this year, Florida.
Speaker 4: State has made a lot of strides over twenty twenty
four since that.
Speaker 3: Started that season. They finished last year and ten. They're serious.
Speaker 7: I don't think they have the money to buy them out.
Speaker 4: You got to pass the hat monk guy, Yeah, you
gotta pass the about LSU.
Speaker 2: Everyone has the money.
Speaker 3: Four million dollars to breach your contract. Fly down here.
Speaker 7: If you get shissed off and off, the money will
show up.
Speaker 2: But maybe they're not, so they're unserious.
Speaker 4: That one time though two times it was opening game, though,
doesn't really count for LSUE for a long time. You know,
this year turns out didn't count either, or it didn't.
Speaker 3: Matter at all.
Speaker 10: Actually, it's kind of like focusing on one game in
the off season.
Speaker 4: M hmm, blackfires, we can loser Florida State. Now, I
think some of it is what Taylor said, the money
portion of it. They just built brand new facilities, they
just added to their stadium.
Speaker 3: A lot of money went into that.
Speaker 4: Obviously they were way behind the times in doing that
and so it caught up to them. So that's a
portion of it. But also I've heard from some you know,
Florida State people EJ that also like they don't feel
like they can jump into this coaching carousel and outbid
anyone right now for the right coach. So I guess
I get that as well. So Floria State weekend loser,
two year loser.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess not a great year to sign a
new contract for a coach. A lot of openings out there. Yeah,
all right, anybody else you're gonna weekend loser.
Speaker 9: Anyone that tried to make LSU Senior Day about themselves
and anything other than what it should be. And unfortunately
one of them happens to be a player on LSU's team.
You know, all the talk this week was or going
into it, was, hey, is Brian Kelly gonna show up
on Senior Day? My thought was always I don't want
him to, just because I feel like that would take
away from his kid's moment, you know what I mean,
Like this should be for his son, for every other
senior on that team to recognize their accomplishments at LSU.
And you know, he didn't show up, but instead, Kenzel
Kelly comes out with this shirt. You could see it
coming up right here. So he decided to make it
a publicity stunt. First off, he said, free my boy, BK.
You mean your father like your boy boy, your dad,
And then he tweeted after the.
Speaker 2: Game, is your dad not your boy?
Speaker 9: I don't know if i'd call him my boy, but
he said, oh, well, you know my dad. We'll call
him BK again. BK wanted to show up at the
higher up said LSU had other plans. That's not what
Senior Day is about. Like Senior Day should just be
about honoring the seniors, like go out there, do your ceremony.
Your mom was there, your sister was there, take a picture,
have a good time, wave to the fans, and move on.
But instead, like you're still on the team, you're attacking
the university, and you tried to make Senior Day about
everything else but.
Speaker 7: What it should be about. And I don't like that.
So we can loser him and.
Speaker 9: Anybody else who tried to make Senior Day into something
that it should not be.
Speaker 2: And what are we like, what are we freeing him from?
Speaker 10: This? Man could not be more free, He could not
be more free than what he is now.
Speaker 3: You okay if it was just like a quick love
you dad.
Speaker 10: Yeah right, you made a show out of it.
Speaker 3: Free my boy, BK.
Speaker 9: Then he's tweeting after the game like come on, man,
like it's it's senior day. Just have senior day and
move on. But there be with your teammates. But it
wasn't the concern apparent.
Speaker 3: I didn't see any.
Speaker 2: Evidence go in there and make it about you.
Speaker 4: Much much later because you call the game, you'll see
the TV. Yeah, so I did not see it until
much much later. And like after it happened then Western
Kentucky had the fumble return for a touchdown.
Speaker 3: Man, it was quite the minute there on the game time. Yeah,
of how it all went. Yeah, but in the same category.
Speaker 4: On the positive side, shout out to the LSU football
fans for cheering for Garrett Nestmeyer because.
Speaker 3: You absolutely should have.
Speaker 4: We were a little bit worried, didn't really know how
it's gonna play. Credit to you because you celebrate the
things that he did in that uniform. This year wasn't
wasn't great. We understand that it wasn't great offensively there,
I mean we could point out ten things why it
didn't work, right, I mean it was it would have been.
Speaker 3: Hard for anybody to be successful and.
Speaker 4: Plays back, no doubt about it, right, you know, started
to create some bad habits because you're trying to do
something this offense was never going to be able to
do with the foundation of it. But that is somebody
that gave everything he had to l s U. And
last year was awesome. This year did not work out.
But even like different times, the bowl game against Wisconsin
was awesome. He came in against Arkansas one time. I mean,
there was some cool moments for Garrett Nesmeyer outside of
just last year. But regardless, he did it the way
that I would want my sons to do it, any
of my four sons, if they did it that way,
I'd be proud as hell. So shout out to U
LSU fans for cheering for Garrett nes Meyer and giving
him that.
Speaker 8: Moment, absolutely and proud of dus Myer and what I
was done and all the seniors out there started a
heartbreaking movement.
Speaker 3: You know that they filmed it.
Speaker 8: I think it was on the one of four five
Instagram at Garrett taking it all in. Yeah and West
Weeks and another shout out a big weekend winner to
the week's breaks brothers on the field at the same time.
Really cool moment.
Speaker 3: How many I think wit God, he got like a handful.
Let me see, actually had just.
Speaker 8: That cool moment right in the hot ah. The pictures
they'll have the picture had that forever cool. I don't
know how many Wit ended up playing. Let's see Wit
played fourteen plays. Uh, that was by design, I believe.
I don't think he came out because he re injured himself.
I think that was kind of by design getting ready
for this week against Oklahoma. But how cool that you've
played with two in the same position too, Like you
get three linebackers in and they were all Weeks brothers. Uh, hey,
chill out, mom and dad save something for the rest
of us you need.
Speaker 4: And the dad played at Georgia by the way, in
case you were wondering, like their dad played at Georgia.
Speaker 3: So pretty talentedful.
Speaker 9: We need to pick in the end zone copies zoomed
in where it's like Weeks Week's Weeks very.
Speaker 4: Very cool, great, great moment. West Week's got a sack
on senior Day. I think his last play that he
was in he got a sack. So that's pretty cool
as well. So yeah, shout out to the Weeks brothers
and the Week's family for that moment.
Speaker 3: All right, I think we're good. I think so we're good.
All right, Let us, we'll take a break and when
we come back.
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and I'm sure the guy that we're calling is gonna
have more thoughts about the Saints losing to the Falcons
and how it all played out.
Speaker 3: Devin snow Aka hold the mayo.
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from the Saints talk until we got debit on because
we know he's going to have some thoughts about the
Saints and how they looked at home yesterday against the
Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 3: Dev, what's going on.
Speaker 5: Brother, going?
Speaker 3: How we doing better than groupie? I'll tell you that.
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, it's tough when like every kicker in
the NFL is really good except the New Orleans Saints kicker.
And not just like every kicker is really good. It
feels like every kicker can make a fifty five yarder
with ease, like they barely swing their leg, and you've
got a group who can't really make it from anywhere
and so it's just another thing to add to the
long checklist of things are going wrong for the New
Orleans Saints.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's almost like, you know, one of these Pat
McAfee guys could get to jobs. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: It's just it's bizarre, man, it really is.
Speaker 3: It.
Speaker 5: Really the fall off is incredible. I hate to see
it because you know, I really do. I like group.
I think he's he's a good, good kid.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and we stayed out about so many It makes
me laugh, it really does.
Speaker 5: Man, because I catch myself saying this about so many guys,
you know, were just a city, a good guy. Right.
It's it's killing us. It's killing us at this point.
It's just these little things. You know, we can't make
a thirty eight yard s field goal and I don't know, man,
it's it's got me like looking at the holder and stuff.
Speaker 4: You know, I saw you tweet that last night, like
it's got to be the holder of something, dude, Jake.
Speaker 5: I don't know what it is, man, because there's just
no way. It's so hard to like come to reality
of like this dude literally is missing thirty something field
goals and he's doing it a lot. You know, it's nuts, man,
you kint me.
Speaker 8: Thinking that, Like, does Groupie like if he was on
game day with McAfee, does he have to make that
second kick?
Speaker 3: Does he have to like beg for one more one
more kick, more kick, one more kick? Oh lord?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's kind of he would come show up
like Blanket Ship came during the Georgia Week and like
he was the guest kicker, like group You would show
up and the guy be like no, no, no, I'm good,
I'm good, go ahead, like I got it?
Speaker 3: You good? Yeah? Oh my god.
Speaker 8: Another thing that was quite embarrassing and it's kind of
I think it's uh past the point of being relevant
for the Saints football team is the old Taysom Hill package.
It just did not look good. Goal on short yardage,
whatever it was. That is a Taysom Hill experiment kind
of done. Is it run its course?
Speaker 5: Well? I mean yeah, absolutely, But you know what else?
Because run its course that we twelve weeks into the
season and we got a young guy, Kellen Moore is
supposed to be an intelligent guy. Man, in twelve weeks,
you haven't figured out how to get a yard on
the goal line yet? How how how how we not
developed the play. You know. This is why like fans
will say things like this, oh, I could develop a
play that could get us one yard, you know, because
you had twelve weeks to figure it out. This is
not like this is just like a you know, a problem,
that's a road that's been happening all season. They are
really struggling to get a yard and they overthink it,
and it's just like, man, your quarterback is six foot five.
Let them lay over on the goal line and see
what happens very worse. You know, you don't get it,
but you ain't gotta look stupid and not getting a yard.
I think that we find a way to look dumb
when we try to get a yard man, because we
just overthinking it.
Speaker 8: Get kind of crumpled. He had quarterback sneak in the
middle of the field. He got kind of crumpled backwards.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just it just doesn't make any sense. Man,
Like what about like Devin Neil up the guy one yard?
You know, half a yard?
Speaker 6: One of those situations was a half.
Speaker 5: A yard We line up in shotgun. It's killing me.
Speaker 8: It's what bad offenses do, and we're seeing it with
LSU right now, like they make things that seem common
sense and make easy things look really hard. You can't
do the basic things in tackle football, and neither L
s U nor the Saints can, like you said, make
a yard when they need to make an easy play
when they need to against an opponent that gives up
easy plays every single week.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the L s U thing is crazy, man, because
you would think with like the change the coach and
change the first thing that would have went out the window. Man.
I can't believe we're still talking about this. It's almost
like I gotta ask, like, did we.
Speaker 6: Did we finance the playbook?
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, do we owe money
on the playbook?
Speaker 6: So we have to use it?
Speaker 5: Because there's just no way that we're still running this
wide receiver screen on first and ten just to get
the second and eleven. I don't get it.
Speaker 8: Oh, we gotta pay coaches a lot of money, dude.
We can't make all those payments. Someone's got to get
If it's a playbook.
Speaker 6: It is a losing playbook, you know.
Speaker 5: And that's the very worst man. Just say, hey, man,
our ROSTA doesn't run these plays good, so let's try
something different you know, like and it's just the same
old stuff.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: I wish I had something different for you, but yeah,
we spent two hours talking about the same thing.
Speaker 3: Dev It's just it's not good.
Speaker 4: It's not going to get better, and it is what
it is, and that's why change is thankfully coming. I mean,
neither team here in Louisiana.
Speaker 3: Can run the football. I mean it's it's embarrassing. Man.
Speaker 4: It's like LSU and the Saints, like they've always been
able to at least run the football.
Speaker 3: It's always kind of been a calling card.
Speaker 4: And you've had great running back rooms and it's been
multiple guys, and man, it doesn't matter who you throw
out there right now for either team. I mean for
the Saints that they ran for seventy nine yards in
this game against the Falcons, they ran for two point
eight yards per carry. Like, that's the thing that's most
surprising I think is And look, I am not foolish.
I realize Saquon Barkley is unique to say the least.
But like with Kellen calling the plays last year, they
had some innovative runs. Man, they were running the full
and the offensive line's great and I get all that,
but like I don't even feel like I'm seeing the
innovative stuff that I thought I would see from a
play designer. I don't know if it's because he realizes
he can't do those things right now, but that's been
surprising in the lack of creativity as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think it look and I do think
that he is realizing that he can't do those things,
because I mean, every time we got a bad play,
who do you see, you know, letting the guy buy,
whether it's a run or pass, it's fifty one, you know,
fifty one, fifty one, fifty one keeps popping up, keeps
letting people through like a Walmart.
Speaker 6: Door worker, Like come on in.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like just dougling. It just
doesn't I don't know, I don't know what it is,
but it's.
Speaker 6: Like, Man, if we that fall away, it's gonna take years.
Speaker 5: It's gonna take years to get this roster right. If
we that fall away to where we can't do simple
things like make creative runs. Man, you know you leading
Russia yesterday was Tyler shuck seven carries twenty two yards.
They tried to run the ball. I mean, they definitely
did it. Just it ain't going.
Speaker 6: Nowhere at all.
Speaker 5: I mean, Taysom Hill ten carries seventeen yards. That's embarrassing.
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, now you brought him up, so let's
let's keep talking about Tyler Shuck a little bit of
his performance. Like to me, I'm watching the game, and
I'm like, you keep taking the kid out. You want
to see what you got. That's why you're playing him
right now, and you want him to develop. Well, you
gotta let him develop in tough situations when you're on
the goal line, when it's short yards. Put the ball
in his hands, like, let him try to make a play.
Quit trying to force the ball and to Taysom Hill's
hands and run this package that worked with Sean Payton
five years ago. Quit trying to run that and let
your young quarterback try to develop and make a tough
play on the goal.
Speaker 3: Line or do quarterbacks there, dude? Do something?
Speaker 8: But besides that, like, how did you feel Tyler Shuck
is doing with the offense with what he's been given.
Speaker 5: I mean, you see bright spots with Tyler Shuck, you do?
I mean his pocket presences. I mean it just looks
good man, Like he slides up good you know what,
not comparing at all, But it's like, what is one
of the things Drew brees that well you split up
in the pocket. You know what I'm saying. He was
able to feel pressure. I think for a guy that's
only played what three games, Tyler Shuck does.
Speaker 6: That pretty well. But yes, I mean, like you said.
Speaker 5: It's you gotta put you gotta let him get in
these situations to where it's on his shoulders. Right, it's
not on Taysom Hills.
Speaker 6: Were good on that, Like, dude, what are the odds that.
Speaker 5: Taysom Hills playing for the Saints next year? Man? They
got to be lower than ever. Right, So it's like,
let Tyler Shuck put it on his shoulders and let
him make the plays you know you do, or die
with him? Just it's okay man two and nine, Like, yeah, it's.
Speaker 8: All evaluation, right, You're trying to figure out if you've
got your quarterback for the future, yes or no?
Speaker 3: Like any answer is okay.
Speaker 8: You can make a decision on either one of those
two answers, is he or is he not? How are
you supposed to know if you keep pulling them out
to put Taysom Hill in?
Speaker 5: Yeah? And then how are you supposed to feel good
about that? When you can't score an offensive touchdown? Right,
you're failing so much in the red zone. How can
fans or you know, whoever is observing that take away that, hey,
we don't need to draft a quarterback when you can't
score in the red zone. It's because you're not really
allowing your gut to go show you that he can.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what you're gonna end up doing
in the draft. I don't know how it's all going
to play out. We don't know what the quarterback pecking
order is going to look like. But the thing that
is worry some troublesome, whatever you're wanna say for the
Saints' dev is they got more issues in vogue. It
ain't just the quarterback situation. So, like, I don't know
what you're going to do in the draft. It's like
you look at the roster, you look at the players,
you look at what they have coming back, and there's
just not a core that you can feel good about. Right,
there's not a nucleus of players that you can feel like, Okay,
well we got these guys moving forward, and so yeah,
you're gonna have a high draft pick, and I know,
quarterbacks on the mind, and we'll see how that ends
up playing out and what that quarterback class looks like.
Speaker 3: But it's not just quarterback now.
Speaker 5: And you know, I'll be damned if I didn't say that, Hey,
we probably need to draft enough.
Speaker 6: The logman, because in all those lineman picks, right, and.
Speaker 5: It just goes to show you, man, the reality will
not be denied. The reality is a lot of those
offensive lineman picks, they just they just didn't work. You know,
Caesar who has we know where we at with that.
It just didn't work out. It's not consistent, it's not
gonna work out. I think he's one of the worst
linemen in the league.
Speaker 6: I'm serious, man, a guy that.
Speaker 5: Was drifted in the first round. He's one of the
worst in the league. You got the McCoy's situation. Who's
a great.
Speaker 6: Player when he's dad, he's a great player.
Speaker 5: And now it's like two years health issues. You got
to start thinking about that. It's you know, fuagas either
and I don't know, man, It's it's a mess. Man.
It's a lot of offensive lineman picks and you would
think that we'd be having a solid foundation on that.
But it's it's anything but there's.
Speaker 8: Anybody that can pull us out of the dark times.
For the Saints fans, it's Mickey Limits. Yeah, very happygether
Yeah you laugh from crying.
Speaker 4: Dev I think you had a pretty good rbn R
day at least last Monday. I mean, maybe we can
have two in a row. We'd call that a winning streak.
It has happened before.
Speaker 5: It's always tough when when when it's off a loss like.
Speaker 3: This, we should be used to about now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was about to say, which has happened a lot,
but I mean I could tell you the mood. I mean,
the mood last week was way better. Right, we had
beat the bye week, so it was about the move.
But now it's you just hate to lose to the Falcons. Man,
You really don't know.
Speaker 3: You had Drew Brees on the call. I felt like
you're gonna have some good mojo from that. I know
are going to win that game.
Speaker 5: The Drew Brees curse lives on. It's it's we're so
bad that our greatest player in the history of the franchise,
every time he's in the Dome, we lose. That's how
bad we are.
Speaker 8: Well to his to They lose without him there too,
so it's not really they lose all the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, welle go Tigers, go, Saints, go Dev.
Speaker 3: We appreciate you Dev, all right, you'll take all right
you as well. It's our boy holding the mayo.
Speaker 4: Hopefully he has some good red beans and rice today
to cheer him up. We need to start to have
the conversation though about the Saints having the same jersey
that the Browns have.
Speaker 3: Of quarterbacks since Drew Brees. I mean, it's not even
the same ballpark yet, it's getting close. It's adding up.
Speaker 7: Qbs per year.
Speaker 3: It's far off, it's getting there.
Speaker 4: I mean Simeon Brownser Brownserhill got Winston.
Speaker 8: Hater started a game. Yeah, but this season, Brown's still
got you. This year, Browns are three, You're only two.
Just wait, all right, we will take a break.
Speaker 4: That's depressing more OTB hopefully less Saints talk, because my god.
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Speaker 11: There's no world inside of me.
Speaker 1: From the locker room to the airwaves. It's off the
bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 11: Somewhere in this darkness, there's a line that I can't find.
Maybe it's too farroway, maybe I'm just flying.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 4: Maybe put you all in your fields during high school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. I'll tell you what I find your
purpose in life.
Speaker 4: Hunt might be sore from swinging golf clubs, but I'm
telling you what. We're getting you moving this morning.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised he hasn't like popped in the chat.
Speaker 3: No, we're doing this for you, Hunt, Hunt.
Speaker 2: It. It really was great content. I'm so proud of him.
Speaker 3: I gave him a great idea. Yeah.
Speaker 10: I gave him really clear instructions on how to use
the mics also, and he used them correctly. He did
need to FaceTime me to ask me a question. I
was like, did you try turning them on? He did
not turn it on, so he turned it on and
then he got it to works.
Speaker 7: It could be an issue.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Do y'all ever wonder.
Speaker 4: Like you know three doors down right, they're huge? Yeah,
and all of a sudden poof right gone.
Speaker 3: And that's for like most bands.
Speaker 4: Googy Dolls, Huge poof Gone, match Box twenty s and
we can go on and on.
Speaker 10: I think like the style, like the style of music
changes and like they don't change with the times kind
of thing. Or maybe you're just so used to hearing
like a certain sound from them that when they do
try to.
Speaker 2: Change it up, you're like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a lot of it.
Speaker 8: I think some of it might have to do with now,
I'm not knocking any three down in there, like artistic abilities,
but I think a lot of these bands in like
that are specific to genres, aren't. They have songs written
for them and like given to them because the songwriter
thinks that that band fits the mood of the song,
and then when music styles change from era to era,
they're like, well, I'm writing this song. I don't think
three Doors down is it for whatever. But like the
people that write their own music and are good music like,
they're good singers, songwriters, musicians, They're the ones that kind
of stand the test of times, they like because because
they have their own sound.
Speaker 2: I'm doing a welfare check on Hunt right now.
Speaker 3: Probably should I said welfare check.
Speaker 4: Just let me know if I need to go check
on him. He was right behind me. M oh, three
doors down originally in Mississippi.
Speaker 3: Huh, I wonder who they lived. Who their neighbor was
three doors away?
Speaker 7: One stayed away from us?
Speaker 3: So h maybe it was Richard dig Dixon down the way.
Speaker 4: I'm doing a little bio check right now, trying to
find out what part of miss.
Speaker 3: We're all able to catch some in football yesterday. It's
just NFL. Yes, you don't have to put football in there.
Speaker 8: NFL football. I was able to catch some, yes. Had
a couple of thoughts from the day. Okay, go ahead,
Bud JJ McCarthy stinks. He's not very good, bad, bad, bad, bad,
mechanically unsound.
Speaker 2: Nine you mean nine?
Speaker 3: Excuse me?
Speaker 8: JJ is probably a super nice guy, yeah, nine nine
not a great of a you know, bad guy, bad
person jsn up there in Seattle.
Speaker 3: Really good at football.
Speaker 8: I think one hundred and sixty or seventy yards, receiving
two touchdowns, like one incredible touchdown to best receiver in
the NF well, probably followed by pickings right now. Yeah,
I mean it's kind of hard to find two wide
receivers better than those playing better than those two I'm
playing great, Yeah, Hunter Henry for the Patriots. I had
like one hundred and fifty receiving yesterday too, and guess what,
all of it came over the middle of the field.
Speaker 3: It's gonna shock if you can wait.
Speaker 8: Whoa wha who Actually, I forgot to do it. I'll
do it tomorrow. If I remember, I wanted to pull
up the passing chart from the Patriots game yesterday.
Speaker 3: You can use the middle of the field.
Speaker 8: So like that's the thing is, like there's there's a
left and the right side, which seemed like a great idea.
A lot of people don't even think about the middle
of the field.
Speaker 3: Don't believe it. You can run a receiver right there
and the quarterback throws it right to him at the
middle of the field.
Speaker 8: It's a part of the play. Maybe it's that finance
part that devil was talking about. A little late on
some payments on that play. But oh, that's good.
Speaker 3: He got me on.
Speaker 8: That was pretty good. The Chiefs had a great win
yesterday as well. They seemed out of it. They beat
the holt old Danny dines Frick's really unathletic, Old Danny,
have you ever seen him slide?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 9: Where's the where's the long sleeve jersey, which doesn't help.
Speaker 8: No, no, no, But I was watching the throughout the
game yesterday. Now I saw one of the best plays
I've seen from a cornerback in a while.
Speaker 3: You were you able to pull that up?
Speaker 8: I hope I'm pronouncing his name right. There's a corner
number twenty six for the Chicago Bears. Nayshan Right or
na Sean, I don't know.
Speaker 3: N H s h O.
Speaker 8: N Right makes one of the best interceptions you will
see on the first drive of the game, down the sideline,
one handed with a double toe tap on the sideline
like it was. It happened so fast, like no one
even thought it was an interception at the beginning. Then
they're like, wait a minute, we probably need to go
review this thing, and they did. They'll they'll show the
clip here. Uh, you just went back to the front
one hand double toe tap and it was incredible and
secured it with the one hand two one of the
better cornerback catches ball skills toe tap because corners they
don't want, they don't they don't work tow tap drills.
Boom boom. That was very impressive. One of my top
plays from the entire.
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Speaker 11: It doesn't need no matter how hard you try to
keep that in mind.
Speaker 3: I'm designed as pride to a slain a due time.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I know, time.
Speaker 3: Is a valuable thing. Watch it blot by is dependulum swings.
Speaker 10: Watch it countdown to the end of the day.
Speaker 3: The clock takes like a way. It's so much really
it didn't look count claw Watch.
Speaker 6: It out and go right out the way tis trying to.
Speaker 8: Hold all right, Welcome back off off the bench. Last
segment here, What a show it's been. It's been a
lot of negative fout. Well, there's not a lot of
positive things to talk about when we're talking about losing
a sports currently, So we're gonna keep talking a little
bit about just the landscape of the NFL.
Speaker 3: We're kind of talking about it.
Speaker 8: The break the best team in the NFL, what our
opinions are, what our thoughts are, And I don't think
it's any question as of right now as we sit
in the National Football League. But the La Rams are
head and shoulders the best team currently. They absolutely dismantle
Tata's Tampa Tampa tay Buccaneers beat them thirty four to seven.
The other people that were kind of in that running
for the Eagles, they lose yesterday, the Cowboys, the Colts.
Speaker 3: Of course, they lose the Chiefs yesterday.
Speaker 8: So right now, the way Matt Stafford is playing, my god,
he is playing the quarterback position as well as you
can play it. I mean, what he's like on an
elite run, an elite streak as far as just from
a pure passing standpoint comes from. He is on an
absolute heger right now. So I don't think it's even close.
Speaker 3: Taylor.
Speaker 8: Do you think it's like particularly close on who the best?
Like the number one on the power ranking list is no.
Speaker 9: And I was telling you, like the Books Bucks are injured,
doll hell, so take that game out of it. But
I mean they've dominated good teams like they've dominated fully
healthy team.
Speaker 3: There last week.
Speaker 7: That game, whatn't as close as the score was, they were.
Speaker 8: I thought the Seahawks were might be one of the
most complete teams in the NFL going into that week.
Speaker 3: When the Rams beat.
Speaker 9: It just seems like everything that's came in front of
the Rams, they've handled it kind of with the ease.
I mean, even games they've struggled, they're like, ah, no,
big deal, will come back in the second half, and
they do it. I mean they're incredible. Davante Adams still
got it. Anybody thinks he's too old is wrong.
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Speaker 3: Predictable. Oh, you tease the question? Gotta go?
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Speaker 3: Who's Patriots Broncos Bears?
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