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Speaker 1: It's the lab Fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that

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knows the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan.

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He's an lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and carn Seo,

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Speaker 2: Yes, the choice was taken away from us. That's what

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we decry, and we decry the fact that we were

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put into a position to adopt media consumption habits that

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put a whole lot of people out of work for

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no good reason and therefore necessarily diminish the quality and

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the risk taking that entertainment producers were willing to take.

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And again with the technology working in reverse influencing how

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the art is created. To some degree, it makes a

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lot of sense, but there are trade offs that didn't

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have to be made. And this whole subscription thing is

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just fucking sas software's service, you know, Microsoft and shit realizing, Hey,

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instead of charging people for software one time, we can

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charge them every single month, and over the lifetime of

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their reallyationship with us, we'll get a few more months

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you know, of money out of them than we would

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if they had to just pay upfront. And then everyone

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was like, holy shit, this is a way to make

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more money off people. Let's hook it in. We do

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it with Patreon. It's the same thing. Patreon is very

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much like that. We keep that engine humming, we keep

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feeding the fucking flame, we keep throwing shit on the

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fire to be worth the money, and we are. But

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that's what creates this sort of like whole idea that

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we're not really making movies to sell the movie on

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its own merits. We're making movies to keep Netflix interesting

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for just one more month, and then it's something else,

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and then it's something else, and then it's something else,

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and everyone's Netflix as far as all the projects they

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approve and all of the kind of schlocky ways that

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their in house stuff is sort of, you know, pulling

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from all these random pop culture sources to try to

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make one fucking ninety minute movie relevant to as many

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people as possible, to the point we don't even know

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what you're watching. Sometimes it's just this assault on the Senate,

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just this assault of reference points. It's it's so postmodern

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it makes you sick. Frankly, it's like a fucking Andy

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Warhol painting of a of a Campbell soup can. Sometimes

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it's like, here is commercialism presented to you, as you know,

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art essentially as popular art, popular entertainment, and you're just

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you're just assaulted with all of these like sneaky little

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references to things that people are trying to sell or

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promote or you know, we'll bring this guy, will put

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him in the movie because he has this audience. She'll

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be in the movie because none of them can act

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or none of them are. None of them we're going

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to elevate the movie, you know, right, I don't know.

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really only there because of the pricing model, the way

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we charge and invoids people decides how shit gets made. Yes,

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very bizarre to me, very cart before the horse, very

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tail wagging the dog. You know, Oh, for sure, the

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creators should be able, and maybe they are, and I'm

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just taking into it dictate how one is to purchase

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their work. You know, there have been some bands that

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have big enough swinging dicks that they just don't go

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on Spotify, they don't sell their tickets on Ticketmaster. They

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just don't. And they can still make enough money to

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be more than justly rewarded for their efforts. But one

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more turnover of generations and there will be no artists

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who come up with anything on their mind besides yeah,

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fitting the way Meta wants to display video right, And

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you're gonna tell me that's not a loss. M it's

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not a big l It's it's it's it's the biggest loss.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't deny it. I don't, I don't

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deny it. It is. It's bad.

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Speaker 2: And as Paul says, and God help you back in

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the day, if you wanted to run a VCR for

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the video store, in terms of them getting extra nervous

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and extra terms and conditions on your ass, you better

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bring that fucking thing back and ship shape, pal, or

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you're going to be paying four hundred, five hundred dollars.

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me up as collateral to rent a VCR back in

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the day.

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Speaker 3: Oh for sure.

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Speaker 2: He also says, Paul Dan Spivey is a whole pound

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of food. Men love. I've heard that William writes that

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his kitchen and eating an omelet. Hulk brother knobs, Dude,

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what's going on here? Knobs? I don't know, Terry, he

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said he's ah h from Tampa and he lives here now.

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It checked out, so I made breakfast like I always do.

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Speaker 2: William also picked up on something we said that pretty

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much nails it. Poignant or bizarre, whatever comes first. Yes,

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from your Wrestling Podcast of the Year winner, Thank you

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very much. It's how I ended up. He remembers as

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the owner of half Baked on VHS in two thousand

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from a Hollywood video after accident putting the tape, accidentally

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putting the tape in a different sleeve and putting it

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on my shelf for turning instead one of my personal

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raw dubs from nineteen ninety eight. Imagine returning to a

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video store your television recording of raw. Oh that's that

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would be I would I would I that would be

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the most embarrassing thing ever. They would send the police

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to your house to get that tape.

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Speaker 3: Yes, oh of course they would.

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Speaker 2: He writes. I hadn't gone back to the store in

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a couple of months. After returning the tape a couple

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of days late, I thought I was looking for ten

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looking at rather a five to ten dollars late fee

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which I was prepared to pay. I made my selection

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that night and went to the counter to check out.

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pay that now? I said, yeah, sure. So we scanned

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my tape and said, so that comes to one hundred

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and sixty five dollars and now, oh.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no no.

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Speaker 2: I did not pay and left without any tape, and

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I was denied the return of my raw tape. Wow.

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I got some satisfaction, however, as that location went out

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of business a few months later, and their books were

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so messed up that I never heard anything else about it. Yeah. Well,

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if they were Nicolin Diamonda to that extent, yeah, he remembers,

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God help you. If you fail to return the tape

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to the rental store, places would charge you late fees

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up to two weeks, and at a higher price if

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it was a new release, and a rewinding fee. If

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we failed to do so, they would call you multiple

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times a day, their threats of ruination for your negligence. Now,

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I remember they would call you looking for their tape.

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I do remember that. Yes, that's how much those things

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cost them to carry. Think about that, that you could

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justify the cost of carrying an employee who would fucking

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watch your inventory and call people like a debt collector

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when they hadn't returned the thing yet. Now like you

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can't give a video away.

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Speaker 3: No, people like run on the opposite correction right right, like.

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Speaker 2: You're trying to put a bomb in their hand or

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something exactly. Then after a store value variable of two

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weeks to a month, said, fuck it, keep it, but

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we're charging your account one hundred and two hundred bucks

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to replace it, and we will turn you into a

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collection agency. Wow, it's like a big fucking thumbs up

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to me. We talked about on a recent episode. I

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believe it was the Colosseum collection. Just funny alternate endings,

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funny booking decisions. Oh yes, Savia Vega coming down instead

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of Sean Michaels at WrestleMania twelve for instance. Yes, and

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of course that sparked no shortage of creativity amongst the

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solar system, and the mailbag started. The mail bag started popping.

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Mark writes, mister food, this is funny booking WrestleMania nine. Okay, okay,

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mister Fuji throws salt in the hitman's eyes. Yes, And

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Yakuzina takes advantage new champion. The story progresses as we

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know Brett has tended to outside the ring by another wrestler,

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and said wrestler is challenged to a title shot right here,

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right now. The following exchange plays out just like it

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actually did with hul Kogan, but instead we end up

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with a new WWE champion, Brian Knobbs. Imagine Brett Hart

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sending Brian Knobs into Avenge his loss with the salt

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in his eyes, like Knobs looks to the people and

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they're like, Okay, yeah, I guess I want you to

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all right, Yeah, He's like, come on. A closing scenes

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WrestleMania nine is him and his Nasty Boy's muscle shirt.

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Speaker 3: You know, you know, you know how how how uh

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Hogan does the you know, the with the fist and

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the like Knob's doing that instead.

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Speaker 2: That's how it would sound. And he's hoisting up the

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winged Eagle belt and people like, okay, he's got his

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pants on with his boots and stirrups. It's like Kidnam

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the people.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: It just made it just made. I don't know why

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that triggered into my mind. The idea of of at

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wrestling a twelve and instead of Sean Michaels Hell, instead

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of Savio Vega. It's although Montoya.

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Speaker 2: And the fans are expected to get excited, that's the key.

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Speaker 3: Instead he's doing all this Sewn Michael stuff, you know,

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like doing the stupid dances and whatever. But he's done

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with a stupid mask on his face.

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Speaker 2: And here's the thing. Everything you just said is true.

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He's got the mask on, he's got the gimmick on,

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He's doing all of Sean's mannerisms. And and Finkel introduces

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him as the heartbreak kid, Shawn Michael, the heartbreak kid,

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as if no one's gonna notice.

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Speaker 3: Where his fucking what do you wear? Green? Yellow and red?

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Speaker 2: The yellow John drop on his face look as funny,

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as as funny as Savio coming down from the rafters.

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The resume of twelve was, I I have to Brian

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Speaker 3: It's better, it's funny. I mean, that's that's a that's

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a that's a funny one. Just to like to to

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figure out who the guy is. That's gonna help. That's good.

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That's gonna say, go get do it. That you do it.

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Speaker 2: That is so such a great point. Like without that

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Brett component, it's not as anywhere near as funny to

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just say Brian Knobs comes out and beats Yoka because

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it's it's imagined nbs like Brett Hart's like Pinny Yokozuna

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and I'm just doing the right left all the sweats

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flying off his mullet was he looks left to right.

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That's why we do this, man. Oh god, it's tough.

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Speaker 3: Fucking Knobs.

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Speaker 2: On our uh colisseum collection Randy Savage and Elizabeth Coverage.

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I'm not quite sure what Alex was honing in on

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as far as what point in the show he decided

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to make this declaration, but he wrote, having the co

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chairman so incredibly clearly illustrate not just what the magic

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of wrestling is, but how it is constructed, how it's

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dilapidated in the modern era, and even a peek into

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a more favorable and refreshing book style. Call me a fanboy,

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but I live for hearing the graps chopped up like

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that MM. And we thank you, Alex, because it's something

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we take pride in and do our best for us

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to try to say, hey, you know, as pathetic as

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we all feel, we don't have to. Wrestling can be good.

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Wrestling cannot constantly be a needy, thirsty enterprise. It can

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It can present itself in a confident way that's not

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constantly being calibrated to X. You know, yes, fuck, hey,

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Pal As he sent Mediah the tickets our way and

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said he can't wait to be penetrated in real time.

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Something we can be doing. Something we can do about that.

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about Jordan's suggestion Colonel Mustafa picture, Colonel Mustafa accept accept

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He's dressed like Colonel Rob Parker. I mean, the fact

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is he said, you know, he could have said iron chic, right,

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but he said, Colonel Mustafa, that's very important. Because now

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I'm swapping out important the Saddama Seine outfit instead of yes,

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yes with the Southern accent too. Oh that's the that's

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the email, Jordan writes, Well, thank you for it, mister Fritz,

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thank you for your pledge. We appreciate you joining us.

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Lewis Perez, longtime supporter are great to see you in

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the Eptre Danny Vaughan, thank you very much for the cake. Studdy.

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Always great to have you in our corner. Andrew writes,

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the table that's meant for himself.

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Speaker 3: Yes, no question, it's for the table.

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he says, Hey, guys, I was actually at MetLife yesterday

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for soccer game when this dropped. I will not be

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going to Met Life for the Slams. However, I will

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be enjoying a weekend in New York City because of

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my favorite college podcast, That's How We Roll. Bro. Brendan

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loves the serendipity of Jaws dropping for the fourth It

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made some long holiday go by so easy. I love

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to hear. That's some of my favorite stuff is the

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holiday drives where we come into play.

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I love doing that. I love listen. There's nothing, there's

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nothing I I I love very much dropping something special.

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Speaker 2: On a holiday. That just I love that. That always

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makes me happy. Yeah, it seems to me. Other podcasts

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kind of take the holidays off a little bit, which

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look in theory, I totally support and understand it, especially

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if you're trying to make it your full time gig.

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But man, that's when we just fucking put our foot

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on thes.

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Speaker 3: But but the thing is, it's like, yes, you want

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to take that, you want to take the day off, sure,

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but then you got to fucking load up.

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Speaker 2: To load up, you gotta be you got to load

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about people who are in a situation where they need

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you during that Because as magical as holidays can be,

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and I'm talking about the holidays and ducking any holiday,

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as great as it can be to be around family

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and friends, there's going to be downtime. There's going to

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be travel time. There's going to be drudgery. There's going

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to be those moments that we are custom made for

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where you're trying to bridge a gap in your day

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because you know you're gonna be like a hamster on

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a wheel for the next little while, be it sitting

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in an airport, riding on an airplane, traveling in a car,

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waiting for people to show up, waiting for people to

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wake up, waiting for people, you know, after for something

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to do. When people go to bed. That's when the

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podcast comes. That's what podcasts count. That's why I can't

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stand this video stuff because it's like, you can't you

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can't do that like and also function like the audio only.

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Podcasts allow you to move through the world and enjoy

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the thing, to do something with yourself instead of just

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sit there and try to replicate the couch potato TV experience,

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which is a wonderful thing in and of itself, but

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it's not My podcast became a thing. Podcasts became a

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thing because they weren't television shows, because they traveled in

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a form and factor that wasn't like that, but at

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the same time preserving what's magic about spoken word audio? Yes,

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what has always been magic about spoken word audio since

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the invention of James Says, Montreal, November ninet ninety seven.

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Survivor Series backstage, Brett gets suspicious and knows something isn't

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right and he bails. Vince needs a replacement for the

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main event entern Tom Brandy waving the Canadian flag flanked

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by the Heart Foundation, same screw jump finish.

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Speaker 3: This works for me.

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in the air then smashes the announcer stead Brandy then

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goes backstage and continues recording the Wrestling with Shadows documentary.

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He takes Vince, he sits across from Sean and asks

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if he had anything to do with it. He uppercuts Vince.

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Speaker 1: On Raw.

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Speaker 2: He goes back to feuding with Mark Merrow on TV

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and appears in the ninety eight Rumble before leaving in

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Marsh is.

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Speaker 3: Just fut.

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Speaker 2: Oh the real homie? Will Winthrop writes, now is that

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disgraced ww Trian bilde Mott or is that US darts

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player Stowey Bunts? I never heard of until he said that?

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Can you take it? Look at Stowe buns for the people?

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S t O w i E b u n t z.

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I think the time is now?

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Speaker 3: Wait st o what is it?

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Speaker 2: S t O w I E. And then it's b

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u n t z buns cake.

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Speaker 3: I mean the love child of Jim Knightheart and Jack Black.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of love children out there, man, I

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have noticed you really are.

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Speaker 3: Oh my professional darts player.

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Speaker 2: Zax's I can confirm the boss did trick my wife

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on April Foold's Day with his Hogan message. Oh I

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love that I called her cell. She was on a

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work trip at a time she wouldn't be able to

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answer and it would go to voicemail. I blocked my

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number so it wouldn't show us from me, and left

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the Hogan message on her voicemail. We had been it

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was beach shop about a month ago. So the idea

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she left a card there as possible tell the people.

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This was basically him asking before Hogan passed obviously, yes,

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that you call that you create a cameo essentially where

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you're calling from Hogan's beat shop as Hulk Hogan saying

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she left the credit.

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Speaker 3: Card there, Yes, and and just kind of going, you know,

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just just going with it, and it went in all

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so many different directions and to the point of, you know,

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obviously the paranoia kicked in, but it was a gradual

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thing where Hogan was like calling with you know, like

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concern originally, and then as he got further into it,

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he's getting a little more freaked out, and he's getting

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a little more angry, and he's wondering, why did you

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leave this thing in my in my in my beat shop, right,

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And it was just tremendous. It's nervously one of the

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fucking Yeah, exactly. This is one of the funniest fucking things.

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Speaker 2: Can't pull that off convincingly anymore, can you?

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Speaker 3: Well, you never know, and not everyone knows he's dead.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, I guess there's an outside chance of that.

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This is the first mailbag since we unleashed the second

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season of Dark Side of the Ring Unheard on Folks

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Available Anything, Get podcast and on YouTube, this time on

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video after I talked all that shit about video for

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your viewing pleasure as well as audio pleasure and Matt

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Rode in how fun is it for me to see

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glow in the dark Abdullah? That has to say, Abdullah

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is on a TV screen behind us with you on

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Vice's YouTube channel. If anything good comes out of releasing

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video episodes, know that I'm feeling like a proud father

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over here, like I reared him myself for twenty five

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years and now he's finally made it in showbiz. Unheard

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is special for the people who hunger for that kind

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of insight and character detail. It's so fucking rich, you

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know it, Abby isolating Evan Hussey to shake him down

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after a night at the Red Lobster Chef's Kiss. That's

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my boy, I don't understand how y'all do it, and

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happy to keep it that way. But if there's ever

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a Q and A and time to talk about sausages

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and how they're made, Matt says he's going to ask

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about the TLF schedule. Well, from the time we wake

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up to the time we have to crash, it's called

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you how do we do it? It's called sleep deprivation.

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I hope people appreciate that about about us. You know,

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we fucking deprive ourselves of sleep. That's what we do.

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Speaker 3: Yes, because you know that that is that That is

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the truth. I'm not trying to people want to know

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that's the ends, but it is. It's it's the absolute truth. Uh,

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you know, because no matter what time we finish, we

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gotta get up at the same time.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: It's always that's always a thing.

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Speaker 2: Got to keep the hamster wheel moving. As Holkoken said,

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can't miss a beat, brother.

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Speaker 3: Brother.

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Speaker 2: Sorry to credit the alarm, it's a good point. Thanks

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and Caleb Bowden, thank you for so much for your

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increase in pledge the Homie Austin, Hey, JP, I'm trying

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to find out more. But a company called Capital City

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Championship Combat Wrestling in Canada did a show in twenty

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eighteen called The Departed. JF was on the car just

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a thought.

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Speaker 3: Listen, okay, but I need to have I need to

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have in need, I need to know that it was

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the name was inspired.

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Speaker 2: Also following up on this past email, he writes minutes later, no,

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actually months later, this C four show took place on

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Saint Patrick's Day, which pretty clearly implies a connection to

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the film That Departed.

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Speaker 3: Because it's all fucking Irish SOUTHI punks.

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing if there's anyone that wrestled on this show

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that is also on cameo, let me know if that

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could help steal the case for The Departed qualifying this guy.

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Speaker 3: Will want to listen. I listen, So do I you

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want it? So do I? Of course I want love

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to dig into the Departed, love the opportunity to dig

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in the into the Departed. But you know I need

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to have I need to have a solid, a solid connection.

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Speaker 2: So explain it. What does it needs? What does it

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need to be?

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Speaker 3: Honestly, for this if the show, if that's show was

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they said, yeah, you know what, we we took it

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from the Departed I'd take it, really, I would take

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it because, you know, it was a if you're gonna

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argue about the GoldenEye situation, because the guy didn't say, yeah,

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my name was inspired by GoldenEye. He said it was

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like the response was, yeah, that was part of it. No, No,

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I just can't buy that, right if, and then he

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went into what it really meant? You know, so yeah,

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maybe it was part of it, but I need a

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more direct like, yeah, I respect that, this is it right.

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You can't make it.

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Speaker 2: You can't feel like the guy said yes just to

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like be nice to the interviewer.

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Speaker 3: If the right if the promoter says, yes, the depart

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is my fucking favorite movie and I named the show

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because of that movie. Done. Wow, easy, that's an easy one.

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It's like it's right there, you know, because there is

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a direct inspiration in some fashis. There's no wrestlers in there, no,

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not that I can see anyway, but listen, there very

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well could be. You know, we find people in the

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weirdest fucking places, in the weirdest places, and unfortunately not

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everybody has a trivia section. That's a lot of the time.

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If you look on IMDb, a lot of times you'll

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find these trivia sections with stunt performers and whatever where

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they say also used to be a professional wrestler, and

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then that starts. You know, that's the rabbit hole. You know,

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the door to the rabbit hole is right there, right,

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so it all, you know, it just it depends God,

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but it can, you know, it can happen. It's not.

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That's that's how we found Glenn Caine. Like you know,

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I forget who found that originally, but you know that

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was that was it you find they found on IMDb.

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It's it's said he's a former professional wrestling referee. You

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know you find that that that right there gets me,

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you know, looking down and seeing where can we where

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can we go qualifying?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Steve says. Also my grandmother and Mama Sorrow

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or kindred spirits. My grandmother always told me and my

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mother before me to never eat or drink anything from

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a petrol station as they as they quote cake that

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stuff and oil you can taste it. Ye, that's right,

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that's right. I don't I don't think that's the case,

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but whatever, No, it's definitely not the case. That would

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be shut down a long time ago.

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Speaker 3: That right, exactly that's what. That's what I'm always like,

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you know, I don't. I just don't think that that's possible.

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Speaker 2: Steve also taken by the Jaws episode because he says

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an Irish language teacher was meant to teach us creative

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writing when we had transition years, which is meant to

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be a year between exam cycles, but instead the teacher

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spent six weeks playing Jaws on loop.

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Speaker 3: I got no problem. That's fine, I got no problem

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that whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: That is.

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Speaker 3: That's a win.

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Speaker 2: Just wonderful, just wonderful to be able to recall that

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memory from members of the Solar System. Sean Hemmings, thank

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you very much for the increase in pledge, my friend.

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We appreciate the vote of confidence. Bryce writes, I can't tonight, sweetheart.

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The boys have sent missives. Must be a fucking feedback show, baby,

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Scott Michael, I cannot accurately describe the speed with which

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I just isolated from everyone in this house as soon

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as I saw this week's under the cinemat. Jaws is

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an all time top five for me. I was absolutely

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obsessed with this film when I was a child. I

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own collectibles. I've gone to cons just to see props

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from the film, and one year I even hit the

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Universal Studios ride ten times in one weekend. Wow, because

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a storm kept a lot of people out of the

470
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park and I could not get enough of that shit. Anyway,

471
00:25:47,799 --> 00:25:54,680
we're gonna need a bigger ass. I see you, Chris.

472
00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:56,200
Not only do I see you on your way to

473
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,079
the show on August third, but I also see that

474
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,640
you already have a play to stop off at a

475
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,680
particular HOGI shop in Delaware. Here we go for the

476
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,000
Asella stop Rover on the way up. So folks are

477
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,640
not only making tracks to join us August third at

478
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,240
the Comedy Village, but they already have their train rides

479
00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:20,960
sandwich lined up. That's it. I mean, that's a beautiful thing.

480
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,359
It's very simple. Paul Cogan had an interesting point on Jaws.

481
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,920
He said, he's pretty sure and apologies if you talked

482
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,079
about this and I just don't remember it. I'm pretty

483
00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:32,559
sure that in the original script, Hooper was supposed to

484
00:26:32,599 --> 00:26:34,119
die in the cage scene, but when they looked at

485
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,200
the footage of the real shark destroying the cage, there

486
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,839
was nobody in it, so it wouldn't make sense.

487
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 3: Kinds I I believe that there is some truth in that.

488
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:44,680
I don't remember.

489
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,079
Speaker 2: Spielberg thought the footage was so good he wanted it

490
00:26:47,079 --> 00:26:48,559
in the movie and just shot an extra scene of

491
00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:49,680
Hooper's scooping instead.

492
00:26:50,079 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't remember. I don't remember. There there is

493
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,799
some there's some truth in that. I believe, I just

494
00:26:55,799 --> 00:26:57,880
don't remember the whole story.

495
00:26:58,279 --> 00:27:00,519
Speaker 2: He also writes the Jaws poster, but Hogan is the

496
00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:03,400
swimming girl, Intenta is the shark. Oh, there we go,

497
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,119
and that's probably a good shirt. No, we should consider

498
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,200
making yep. Can you imagine? He also asks how horrified

499
00:27:10,279 --> 00:27:12,160
Terry would be if he heard someone say the shark

500
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:19,519
is not working. Ooh because MSG one nine six eight

501
00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:21,599
ninety nine. Thank you very much for your pledge, and

502
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,160
welcome in to the executive producer, to your Carlos Dallion.

503
00:27:25,319 --> 00:27:28,200
Austin looks down at his phone. The notification shines up

504
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,400
at his face. He looks up. Did you see that?

505
00:27:31,559 --> 00:27:33,720
Cue the dolly zoom. Everybody get out of the water.

506
00:27:36,519 --> 00:27:37,720
I can see Steve fitting in.

507
00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 3: Could you imagine? That'd be absolutely amazing?

508
00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: Talking about why you can't see great white sharks in captivity.

509
00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:47,200
Josh has some insight, some species of shark, he writes,

510
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,720
could be successfully kept in human care, but not Great whites.

511
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,599
They are made to roam the open ocean, and they

512
00:27:51,599 --> 00:27:54,759
have colossal ranges thousands of square miles in some cases,

513
00:27:54,759 --> 00:27:56,960
in which they live and hunt. Several attempts have been

514
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,119
made to capture and hold Great whites, but they always

515
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,400
end up slamming into tank walls and refusing to eat

516
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,279
until they either die or get released back into the ocean.

517
00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:07,319
There's always something that is fucking commitment to the craft

518
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,039
right there. This is one of the more electrifying ones

519
00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:12,799
we've gotten on Patreon in a while. This is a

520
00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:15,359
as part of our recent Night of Champions live call

521
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,559
from Saudi Arabia the Homiest Salmon, and he writes, as

522
00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:21,519
a member of the Solar System working the Middle East territory,

523
00:28:21,519 --> 00:28:24,720
He's on the ground out there, boss flying the lapsed

524
00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:27,759
flag in this sound. I had a chance to go

525
00:28:27,799 --> 00:28:30,000
to this as the land of Saud is right next

526
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,079
door to where I'm based. These Saudi tickets are way

527
00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:35,519
cheaper than what TKO was priced for the US and

528
00:28:35,519 --> 00:28:38,039
Europe shows, twenty two d dollars for he writes for

529
00:28:38,079 --> 00:28:40,960
a general seat. So whenever we watch these Saudi shows

530
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,839
and think of the tens of millions they're getting paid,

531
00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:45,920
and that is happening. It's that building is not full

532
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,079
because people are paying TKO premium prices. That is very

533
00:28:50,119 --> 00:28:53,559
satisfying to know. Had mixed feelings, he writes on Punk

534
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:55,599
even coming here. Happy to see him come to this

535
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,640
side of the world. But obviously the controversy of these

536
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,200
events is understandable, and he's under a specific microscope. You

537
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,839
couldn't script an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm with more

538
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,759
things that could have gone wrong for him in terms

539
00:29:05,799 --> 00:29:07,559
of online reaction to what happened to him this weekend,

540
00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:09,559
from the kid getting snubbed to checking in with front

541
00:29:09,559 --> 00:29:12,039
Bro Mohammed, which was replayed in the building on SmackDown.

542
00:29:12,039 --> 00:29:14,200
So maybe it was planted to the promo to the

543
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,839
finish of the match. I like the match for most

544
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,720
of it, and Saudi fans do give a great atmosphere

545
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,839
at these but I think Punk is gonna wish this

546
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,960
was the Saudi verse and get back to business of

547
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,880
still feuding with Seth for another nine months, and he

548
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,880
said this, I can't believe you wrote this, considering where

549
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,160
we stand today. He followed that up with a quote,

550
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:36,079
Hulk finally passing is going to be weird outlasted his peers,

551
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,240
but reputation is worse than ever. They are younger fans

552
00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:42,279
who are going to celebrate it, and older ones are

553
00:29:42,279 --> 00:29:44,720
going to feel mixed, but ultimately sad for reasons beyond

554
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:47,000
just as death. If that Netflix debut was the last

555
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,480
time we see him in WW, what a sad way

556
00:29:49,519 --> 00:29:52,160
to go out. But what were we told about? Pain?

557
00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:56,039
Can't even imagine how a lapsed tribute would go with

558
00:29:56,119 --> 00:30:00,759
things already covered. But it'll be deserved. That is an

559
00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:02,519
oracle operation right there.

560
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 3: You're damn right well, just you wait.

561
00:30:04,319 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: Mardies, do you wait? Martif? Thank you for the increased pledge,

562
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,920
Miley Ripley, thank you very much for the cake. Welcome

563
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,680
in Hario Vargas. We love it. Thank you very much.

564
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,440
Antonio writes to your co chairs. My name's Tony from LA.

565
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,119
Been listening to you guys since King of the Ring

566
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,359
ninety four and I've never looked back. Recently, I was

567
00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:21,599
in a car accident in April that messed me up badly,

568
00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:24,079
broken hip, nerve damage and muscle damage. It's been a

569
00:30:24,079 --> 00:30:27,759
pretty rough couple of months. Depression, emotional damage and physical damage.

570
00:30:27,839 --> 00:30:30,000
What's been getting me through these months? To keep fighting?

571
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:35,680
Take a guest, boss. Some podcasts stuck up your ass

572
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,440
by being about the pain. We help people through the pain.

573
00:30:38,759 --> 00:30:40,119
Can we say this? Can we say this?

574
00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:40,599
Speaker 3: Yes?

575
00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: Yes, we are your therapy. We are not your therapist. However, Yes,

576
00:30:46,319 --> 00:30:48,599
I listened to at least two to three episodes a day,

577
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,119
Antonio says, with all the time I have since the accident,

578
00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:54,519
it feels like it's not enough episodes. Thank you for

579
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,039
pounding my ass through these tough moments, and if you

580
00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:59,319
can bless me, if you guys can do backlash O

581
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,079
three would mean a lot, especially during this difficult moment.

582
00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:05,480
He's looking to get a show in thank you and

583
00:31:05,599 --> 00:31:08,279
like the APA shirt says, keep me doing ass. I

584
00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:11,200
don't think Hogan's on that show. I looked, No, no,

585
00:31:11,359 --> 00:31:14,119
that that's the that's the one you you went to

586
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,079
that one. It's Worcester and wester Yeah, with the Goldberg

587
00:31:16,119 --> 00:31:19,680
and Rock, you're gonna you're gonna be fully healed, Antonio

588
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,200
by the time that one comes out. But I'm sure

589
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,319
you'll enjoy it when it does, and we'll be thinking

590
00:31:23,319 --> 00:31:25,119
of you when it happens. But that's the kind of

591
00:31:25,119 --> 00:31:28,960
thing I mean. Okay, any of us could get hit

592
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,759
by a bus, any of us could get waylaid by

593
00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:35,119
an illness, any of us could break a leg or

594
00:31:35,119 --> 00:31:37,240
break an arm, or be laid up for months at

595
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:42,839
a time. And what's you're gonna tell me it's not

596
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,720
better to have in your rotation and routine such a

597
00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:50,000
low ask form of entertainment like the laps fan Wrestling

598
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,839
podcast to lean on. Yeah, you're gonna tell me that

599
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,160
it doesn't go by so much faster for someone in

600
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,200
Antonio's position, where you doesn't have to sit there and

601
00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:01,319
be alone with this thoughts of how limited he is

602
00:32:01,319 --> 00:32:05,359
physically in mentally is the result of what happened to him. Cay,

603
00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:10,240
tell me that's not real. Okay, fucked, Hey, yeah, give

604
00:32:10,279 --> 00:32:12,279
me a break. Of course it's real. Perhaps the only

605
00:32:12,279 --> 00:32:16,640
thing that is real or great midget, My great grandfather

606
00:32:16,759 --> 00:32:18,720
was a local jobber for the Buffalo Bill Show in

607
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:21,720
the early twentieth century in Iowas. Tell the people why

608
00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:23,920
that's relevant, Well, that's.

609
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 3: That's the Buffalo bill that we talked about, the Buffalo

610
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,759
Bill Show during once upon time in the West under

611
00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:34,079
the cinemat So that's pretty that's what.

612
00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: Were those shows.

613
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,559
Speaker 3: Those shows were. They were live shows. They were they

614
00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:45,119
were basically the the original Western because they were shows

615
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,759
that and and again we talked about how fascinating it

616
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,960
was that these were these were wild West shows being shown,

617
00:32:54,400 --> 00:33:00,640
being being done live, while there was the wild West

618
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,000
was still in existence, right, or was if it wasn't

619
00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:07,000
necessarily still in existence, it was going away, or it

620
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:11,599
was very close, you know, you know there was. It

621
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,200
was just pretty it was very recent.

622
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,039
Speaker 2: It was you could convince people they were creating a

623
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:17,759
real live cowboy, right, someone who had loved it, someone

624
00:33:17,799 --> 00:33:20,319
who had done it. And so it was like basically

625
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,400
it was it was some k fabe shit amazing talking

626
00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:26,279
some wrestling stuff. Yeah, Buffalo Bill comes to town. Come

627
00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:29,880
watch him in his fucking you know frontiersmen ways. Yeah,

628
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,920
So work rate Midget says, my great grandfather was a

629
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,960
local jobber for the Buffalo Bill Show in the early

630
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,839
twentieth century in Iowa, Wisconsin. As it was explained to me,

631
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,440
when they came to town, they needed extra horses and cowboys.

632
00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:41,559
Cowboys in the sense of being able to ride saddle

633
00:33:41,559 --> 00:33:43,759
and bareback. So depending on the need of the performance

634
00:33:43,799 --> 00:33:45,960
e g. Headcount you were either a soldier or a

635
00:33:46,039 --> 00:33:49,880
native sometimes both in the same day. That's get the

636
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:55,279
jobbers booked. Yep, Craig writes on one of our episodes, Yes,

637
00:33:55,319 --> 00:33:58,599
this is a most explosive TNT show, which, as we

638
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,559
discovered as part of the Colosseum collection, is really one

639
00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:02,640
of those great windows in a Vince McMahon's psyche in

640
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,400
terms of word choice and subject matter choice and all

641
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,119
the things that TNT tells us about how Vince's mind works.

642
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,119
Craig says, Vince says the phrase at fifty one to

643
00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:15,800
fifty six hopsack race instead of just you know, a

644
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,159
sack race, and I'm not even sure how to feel

645
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:20,880
about it. He goes full Vince and has to rename

646
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,840
it to something no one's ever said.

647
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like he was trying to say, like

648
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,800
a mix of Hopscotch and a sack race.

649
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:34,199
Speaker 2: Right, you know, it's true he's so obsessed with adding words.

650
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,039
Why say something in three words that you could say

651
00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:39,480
in twenty one words. That's Vince McMahon's strategy, that's Vince

652
00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:43,000
McMahon's philosophy. And so we sit here with and then

653
00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:50,119
from there and nonetheless that, notwithstanding all the shit unbelievable, Kevin,

654
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,639
Kevin Grimwood, thank you very much for your pledge on Patreon.

655
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,199
Christopher fucking delineated it as part of that aforementioned WWF

656
00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:02,719
explosive TNT show coverage. How about these aforementioned it's Love's

657
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:09,159
that word obligation therefore clearly states the lady in question.

658
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,000
Oh and he writes with what a maneuver is my

659
00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:14,840
free square? I have Vince Bingo for that mating game sketch.

660
00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:17,239
I do like the idea of Vince Bingo. I really

661
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:17,880
really do.

662
00:35:18,519 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 3: Yep.

663
00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I like the idea. It's great to

664
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,199
hear from from Fred. Remember up how the Purple Parrot?

665
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,800
Of course, it's how can I forget? I mean now?

666
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,840
And then you know a Solar System member that you're like,

667
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,519
I wonder how he's doing. You know, we used to

668
00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:34,079
hear from him a lot. We don't hear from him

669
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:36,880
as much, and that's fine, but you know, you do

670
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,119
wonder did they stop listening to the show, did they

671
00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:43,840
stop caring about wrestling? Did they fall in love? Did

672
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,079
they find another twist in this long road of life

673
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:49,719
that takes them off the lapsed path. But it was

674
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,039
great to hear from him, and and I know, since

675
00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:54,559
you've shared the ring with him, it might be appropriate

676
00:35:54,559 --> 00:35:55,760
for you to share what he wants to share.

677
00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:02,039
Speaker 3: Absolutely, in the words of two thousand's butt Rock Band

678
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:08,920
and w favorite Stained, it's been a while, it's been

679
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,559
a huh oh yeah, yeah, all right, all right before

680
00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:15,559
Fred shares thought well, I appreciate him thinking and talking

681
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:20,480
in third person. Before Fred SHARE's thoughts, one friendly reminder

682
00:36:20,519 --> 00:36:23,719
that a little birdie is lurking. The purple is always

683
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,880
watching from up in the trees. Anytime you're ready to

684
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,039
do it again. Yeah, I get that win back, brother.

685
00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:32,679
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

686
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,199
Speaker 3: As I type this, I'm riding in an RV up

687
00:36:35,199 --> 00:36:37,480
the West Coast with the woman you met when she

688
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:39,679
was my girlfriend. She has now been my.

689
00:36:39,679 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 2: Wife for two days.

690
00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 3: He now, congratulations, But I don't think I knew that

691
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:49,719
see him on social media, But congratulations man. We walked

692
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:54,840
out of our wedding to the tunes of Edge is

693
00:36:54,920 --> 00:37:01,000
Gay he sees queerly. I mean really, yes, it was

694
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,039
the actual song, but even at my wedding, I can

695
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:05,519
never unhear those words.

696
00:37:05,559 --> 00:37:12,079
Speaker 2: Yes understood, Thank you, Omar for that one. That's yeah,

697
00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:14,639
that's from Omar. That's right here, it's Omar. Omar would

698
00:37:14,679 --> 00:37:17,480
do that all the time. Long time listeners might remember,

699
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:22,280
by the way, they might remember the purple parrot from

700
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,119
the episode we did about what it's like to be

701
00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:30,639
on Wheel of Fortune. The whole interview for him, Oh yeah,

702
00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:32,960
we did because he did a it was a Hopper show.

703
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:34,920
It's a Hopper show. Well I think it was I'm

704
00:37:35,639 --> 00:37:38,400
show was something, or it was the mail bag interview.

705
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,719
We just we tucked it in somewhere because we heard

706
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,440
that he had done Will a Fortune. It was his

707
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,280
lifelong obsession, and he noticed all the little details that

708
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,400
anybody used to watch that show would want to know.

709
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yep.

710
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

711
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,639
Speaker 3: He's tremendous. He's like and then's like he's like part

712
00:37:55,639 --> 00:38:00,000
of a like there's like a because he was brought back.

713
00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:06,519
Two he was brought back for I forget what it was.

714
00:38:06,559 --> 00:38:08,719
It was like kind of like a like a favorite

715
00:38:10,559 --> 00:38:13,199
you know, favorite guests or something, because you know him

716
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,480
him getting choked out by Pat Sajack was was like

717
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,119
a meme for a while, right, that's right, that's yeeah.

718
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: Celebrities.

719
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so they brought I think they brought back

720
00:38:25,679 --> 00:38:27,320
a bunch people who's like kind of part of this

721
00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:34,320
like fascinating little club of of famous or memorable Wheel

722
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,519
of Fortune contestants.

723
00:38:35,559 --> 00:38:38,079
Speaker 2: So it's pretty cool. I enjoy seeing his posts about

724
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:38,719
stuff like that.

725
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,199
Speaker 3: We're currently driving through the mountains while at her request,

726
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,199
listening to your series on the Benoa tragedy. Oh my god,

727
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:55,719
really bless her heart. Morbid and disturbing stories are being

728
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,400
shared of drugs and cover up, some corruption and a

729
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,239
madman who took innocent lives with him as he was

730
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,920
eaten alive by the business, all the while being adored

731
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,320
by us for it. Shame and pain. You know what,

732
00:39:10,039 --> 00:39:13,119
we have never been more at peace. Seven years in

733
00:39:13,159 --> 00:39:15,239
the Solar system, five years as a couple in TLF

734
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,239
is still the soundtrack to our lives. Anyone asks me

735
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,239
for a podcast recommendation for a specific occasion of circumstance,

736
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,559
I cut them off before they even qualify what occasion

737
00:39:24,559 --> 00:39:27,639
they're asking about. The answer is that fucking cast one

738
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,159
hundred percent of the time. Just like I made a

739
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,079
vow to my new bride to love and cherish and

740
00:39:33,079 --> 00:39:35,679
supporter for all eternity. I vowed to my co chairs

741
00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:39,440
to keep my ass open, yes and ready, Yes for

742
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,280
the casts, periodical poundings, forever and ever.

743
00:39:42,679 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: Amen, much love and thank you for seeing a man.

744
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,079
That's the kind update we're looking for. Salute from the road, pal,

745
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,119
We'll see a out in the way. I was just

746
00:39:51,159 --> 00:39:54,360
thinking about the Renaissance Rumble Show the other day. Yeah,

747
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,559
and uh, man.

748
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 3: No, you know, i'd be lying if I said I

749
00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:02,320
didn't every now and again go back and just take

750
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,960
a look at it. I think it's it was fun.

751
00:40:05,039 --> 00:40:08,599
It was so much fun. It's I had such a

752
00:40:08,599 --> 00:40:11,840
good time with that one. Absolutely, I'd get you know,

753
00:40:12,199 --> 00:40:14,920
I suppose there could be one more. There could be

754
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,719
one more left. I don't know if yeah, right, one

755
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,400
and more Mad for Boss Adkinson.

756
00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:24,639
Speaker 2: Makes all the sense in the world. Now, what a

757
00:40:24,679 --> 00:40:26,960
finish to that little mini documentary where everyone's like, you

758
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,000
should actually do this? Man. Oh, I know there was

759
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,639
a moment, there was like there's a moment. There was

760
00:40:32,679 --> 00:40:39,039
a moment I was there was a consideration. But no,

761
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,239
I would say we've learned too much. We know too

762
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,840
much about that world. Jeff writes. When TLF begin their

763
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,800
Colisseum collection journey. I don't think I could foresee Don

764
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,960
Morocco channeling Sesame Street's Bert while splurging pathetically onto his

765
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,400
stomach after getting oiled down by mister Fuji. That being said,

766
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,760
I'm not that surprised either. Well, the Calle collection takes

767
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,840
this in strange places. Spell That's all I can say,

768
00:41:04,079 --> 00:41:06,159
Mike Palm, thank you very much for your pledge. Welcome

769
00:41:06,199 --> 00:41:10,039
in Carlo Stallion rights. The primary act of Carnival is

770
00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:14,119
the mock crowning and subsequent decrowning of a Carnival king.

771
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,400
Did you know this? It is a according to an academic,

772
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:23,639
I suppose dualistic, ambivalent ritual that typifies the inside out

773
00:41:23,639 --> 00:41:27,159
world of Carnival end quote, the joyful relativity of all

774
00:41:27,199 --> 00:41:33,280
structure and order. I do really like wrestling described as

775
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,480
the joyful relativity of all structure and order. Yes, that

776
00:41:36,559 --> 00:41:40,280
sounds like postmodernism, right, sure does? This is from Botkin.

777
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,519
I think a Russian philosopher. He knew a lot about Carnes, Okay,

778
00:41:44,639 --> 00:41:48,239
Carlo writes. Botkan identifies four principal categories of the Carnival

779
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,880
sense of the world, familiar and free interaction between people.

780
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,760
Carnival often brought the unlikeliest of people together those ordinarily

781
00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:00,320
separated by impenetrable socio hierarchical barriers. The suspension of dits

782
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,960
between people encouraged free interaction and free individual expression. Yeah,

783
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,440
I can't help think of how wrestling shows in the

784
00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:10,599
territorial days were always talked about in Memphis and Chicago

785
00:42:10,639 --> 00:42:12,960
and some other cities as some of the first integrated

786
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,960
live sports events, where black fans and white fans would

787
00:42:16,119 --> 00:42:18,840
sit next to each other and sort of share in

788
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,400
an entertainment experience in a way they really didn't share

789
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,320
anything else in society at the time. Eccentricity. With the

790
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:32,119
dissolution of hierarchical relationships, ordinarily unacceptable behavior becomes acceptable behavior.

791
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,360
Gesture and discourse that are normally considered eccentric and inappropriate

792
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,840
are encouraged, permitting the latent sides of human nature to

793
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:45,599
reveal and express themselves. Carnivalistic messy alliances. The familiar and

794
00:42:45,679 --> 00:42:49,440
free format of carnival allows all dualistic separations of the

795
00:42:49,519 --> 00:42:53,760
hierarchical worldview to reunite in living relationship with one another.

796
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,880
Heaven and hell, the sacred in the profane, the high

797
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,760
and the low, the great and the small, the clever,

798
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:03,000
and the stupid. But enough about.

799
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 4: Sunday, August third, at noon, the lapsed fan takes on

800
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,360
Times Square tickets at Comedy Village dot com. There goes

801
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,760
the neighborhood, you fucking bitch, and finally pro dot com,

802
00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:13,719
there goes the.

803
00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:16,159
Speaker 3: Neighbor shut up, you fucking.

804
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,079
Speaker 2: Bitch, and finally profanation. In the carnival, the strict rules

805
00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:23,159
of piety and respect for official notions of the sacred

806
00:43:23,199 --> 00:43:27,280
are stripped of their power. Blasphemy, obscenity, debasing, bringing down

807
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,679
to earth celebration rather than condemnation of the earthly and

808
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,239
body based that friends, Carlos Stelling.

809
00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 3: I heard is what we do? I heard that body

810
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,119
based Big fan.

811
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: Craig writes, you do the lapse pilgrimage to Ocean City, Maryland,

812
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:48,159
like where they shot the Fuji vice as we discovered. Yes,

813
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,039
and you have to go to Atlantic General in Salisbury,

814
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,360
the hospital that Goldberg ends up after shattering the window.

815
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,119
It's screwing up his arm. Go to Salisbury. Yes, that's

816
00:43:58,199 --> 00:44:03,760
Kevin Nash's line. Go to Saul's. Hey you, keV, I'm

817
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,360
right on it, buddy, because everybody knows what you mean

818
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:11,880
about this random city in Maryland. It's also where they

819
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,960
took me, he says, when I was hit by a

820
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,400
car in Ocean City when I was eighteen. Oh Jesus, Well,

821
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,480
Craig offers to cover desserts and drinks. So if we're

822
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,440
ever going to Ocean City, Maryland, we're work covered. Nowhere

823
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,400
to go, Jimmy Airy, thank you very much for the

824
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,159
increase in pledge, My friend, welcome in to our good graces.

825
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,679
We'll winthrop a seahawk. Remember Fuji and Don Morocco and

826
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,719
Fuji Wece are looking for the Seahawk drug dealer. Remember that, Yes,

827
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,800
I do, He says, a seahawk heavily involved with coke

828
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,559
in the eighties. I can't have been the only one

829
00:44:40,599 --> 00:44:46,360
expecting a Brian Bosworth cameo. Uh, Steve Jack was correct.

830
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,039
It was a von Eric angle that Vince said, we're

831
00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:52,280
turn off sponsors. Yeah, we were reading reading something that

832
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,679
he put in his magazine about how unlike other organizations

833
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,119
that are doing things that are too hyper violent. It

834
00:45:00,159 --> 00:45:01,639
was one of those like you know how we're taking

835
00:45:01,639 --> 00:45:05,840
over the National Television Producer's Convention and we're advertiser friendly

836
00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:08,000
and I'm trying to remember what it was that Vince

837
00:45:08,119 --> 00:45:10,079
was kind of throwing shade at, and it was the

838
00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:12,320
Van Eric angle that Vince said would turn off sponsors

839
00:45:12,519 --> 00:45:14,760
when Chris Adams Kevin Van Eric had the chair shut

840
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,639
thing and he busted Kevin like ear to ear, by

841
00:45:18,639 --> 00:45:20,519
which point David had died and carried one then to

842
00:45:20,519 --> 00:45:22,159
be a belt. So the courtship with Fritz and World

843
00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:25,679
Class was on hiatus between Vince and Fritz. Of course,

844
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,719
Stephen also hopes that further expiration of TNT leads to

845
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,559
the coach heers discovering the lost episode of TNT that

846
00:45:31,639 --> 00:45:34,559
never made it onto ww network. The only valid reason

847
00:45:34,559 --> 00:45:36,079
for which I could find was that it had doctor

848
00:45:36,159 --> 00:45:38,920
Jerry Graham on and Vince's visibly marking out to be

849
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,639
on TV with one of his heroes. Yeah, and one

850
00:45:40,679 --> 00:45:42,960
of the more notorious human beings to ever be in

851
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,719
the wrestling business as well. There's also a very campy,

852
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,719
questionable swimsuit competition featuring Baltimore models that Vince McMahon MC's

853
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,159
at the end of the thing. As far as I

854
00:45:54,199 --> 00:45:57,320
can tell, if you haven't noticed, I've seen it. He doesn't,

855
00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:01,239
you know, do anything inappropriate or untoward that's very obvious,

856
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,239
but would love to know when they were poorting over

857
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,239
the whole TNT archive to the network and or peacock

858
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:09,760
that they decided to just leave that one off to

859
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:16,920
the side. We noticed. Yep, we noticed Jordan's CAPECI. Thank

860
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,519
you very much for your pledge, my friend, and thanks

861
00:46:18,559 --> 00:46:22,760
for being part of what we do on Patreon. Andrew

862
00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:25,119
just wants to drop a quick note. This is Drew

863
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,519
just saying, among other things, Boss, thank you. If you

864
00:46:28,519 --> 00:46:32,119
could share it with the Solar system please. Hey, guys,

865
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,039
just wanted to drop a quick note to say thank you.

866
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:38,119
I've been a listener for a long time Patreon since

867
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,239
eighteen and a freeloader before that. I never really understood

868
00:46:42,519 --> 00:46:46,159
would even dismiss how people could write in and say

869
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:52,760
how much the cast saved them during hard time. I'd

870
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,599
laughed to myself and think it's just a college podcast.

871
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,159
At the end of the day, it's just some high

872
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,800
quality con tent. Long story short, my week old son,

873
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,599
who decided to make his entrance a month early, had

874
00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:09,159
some issues regulating his temperature. After a few days at home,

875
00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:11,920
we ended up in the er where he had an

876
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,960
apnea episode and stopped breathing. Due to a rapid drop

877
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:21,840
in temperature hypothermia. They had a rush into to the NICU.

878
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,559
My wife and I were completely in the dark. No

879
00:47:24,599 --> 00:47:26,679
one could tell us that everything was going to be okay.

880
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:27,480
Oh fuck.

881
00:47:28,039 --> 00:47:31,639
Speaker 3: For a while, we truly thought we might lose him. Thankfully,

882
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,400
we were eventually reassured that he would survive, though he'd

883
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,440
need to be monitored closely so for the next week.

884
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,840
The NICU became our home. That first night, with emotions

885
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,880
running high and knowing he was sedated, I tried to

886
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,199
get some rest. I put on the first episode of

887
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,639
the Saboo Tributes and lost myself in the cast I've

888
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:55,239
known and loved for years, And in that moment, I realized,

889
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,360
you guys are more than just a college podcast, more

890
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:05,599
than content I enjoy that gets pumped straight into my ass.

891
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,639
I can't quite put it into words, but I finally

892
00:48:08,679 --> 00:48:11,599
understood how people turn to you during the hard times. Daddy,

893
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,679
that time spending me and I see you taught me

894
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,159
a lesson in humility, gave me a new perspective on life,

895
00:48:18,199 --> 00:48:21,159
and reminded me to never take anything for granted. My son,

896
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,239
now a month and a half old, is doing well.

897
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,119
His follow up visits have been positive and it seems

898
00:48:26,199 --> 00:48:28,440
like this was just a small bump in the road.

899
00:48:29,079 --> 00:48:31,199
Thank you for everything you do. Keep up the amazing work.

900
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,599
I'll always be listening and always look forward to the

901
00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:42,079
next episode. Cheers, Drew. That's listen. I've said it before,

902
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,719
I will say it every time. It's not something that

903
00:48:46,119 --> 00:48:52,320
I anticipated, it's not something that I sought out, But

904
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,880
I'm grateful that this that it has happened that way. Yes,

905
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,159
I'm grateful that we can be there. It's one of

906
00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:03,800
the great side effects of doing this show. Yes, and

907
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,400
I am. I'm grateful for that. I'm grateful that we

908
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,760
could help you in that. I can't even imagine how

909
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:18,280
scary that was for you. And that's just Jesus.

910
00:49:19,519 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been ten years worth of these letters by now.

911
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,199
There's something going on. There's something real, there's something additive,

912
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,719
there's something hopeful happening when we pick up the stick.

913
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,559
Because wrestling fans they have a hard time finding hope.

914
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,360
They do, yes, why they watch wrestling so religiously. They're

915
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,920
trying to find something to cling on to that they

916
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,760
can look forward to. And you know, like you said,

917
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,639
never by design, but always by effect your co chairs

918
00:49:47,679 --> 00:49:52,920
there in that void. Brandon from Jersey, longtime homie and supporter.

919
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,599
I want to thank you very much for your support

920
00:49:55,599 --> 00:50:00,480
in all these years, most recently via Patreon urgent Tavis,

921
00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:02,960
thank you very much for joining the Executive producer tier.

922
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,679
Same to you, Simon. Really appreciate it. Mike writes, you

923
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:10,199
have said China, Paul Orndorff, and Bill Mercer were near calls. Okay,

924
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:12,679
that is to say people who when we heard about them,

925
00:50:13,039 --> 00:50:15,679
we thought about picking up the phone and making it

926
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,559
a call, but they just didn't feel in the moment

927
00:50:18,559 --> 00:50:20,679
like they rose to the level. He says, if you

928
00:50:20,679 --> 00:50:22,360
could go back and do a tribute on any one

929
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,119
of those three, which of the three would you choose,

930
00:50:24,119 --> 00:50:29,920
Boss China, Paul Orndorf or Bill Mercer.

931
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 3: I'd probably say Mercer. Yeah, he had a fascinating life.

932
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,239
He did, and I feel like he he was a

933
00:50:42,519 --> 00:50:48,760
I mean, Orndorf, I don't know like his if if

934
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,960
he had I feel like if he had continued as

935
00:50:53,079 --> 00:50:59,760
well as he had throughout the eighties after Hogan, I

936
00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:06,199
feel like that would have been he might have he

937
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,800
might have been more deserving. But it's like he he

938
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,440
kind of seemed like a flash in the pan. Yeah,

939
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,400
and then he was in WCW and you know, as

940
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,800
much as I love pretty wonderful, I don't feel I

941
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,119
don't know if he really accomplished as much.

942
00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:26,039
Speaker 2: You know, But China, Mercer. The thing about China is

943
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,440
you can weigh and they have, God knows they have

944
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:35,320
overplay her impact in the business. But her story how

945
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,880
the business chewed her up and spit her out. Yeah, yeah,

946
00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:40,039
how Triple H chewed her up and spit her out.

947
00:51:40,119 --> 00:51:42,159
You know, I don't know if that's fair. Of course

948
00:51:42,199 --> 00:51:43,599
it's not, but you know, you know what I mean,

949
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,239
how it appears from the sidelines the Triple and to

950
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,960
hear her tell it, Triple H chewed her up and

951
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,039
spit her out, And how that all led to the

952
00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:55,599
Triple H becoming the fucking boss of the entire WWE, right,

953
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,360
And how she just found herself kind of despite a

954
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:03,079
very short tenure at the nexus of so many tectonic

955
00:52:03,199 --> 00:52:06,280
plate shifts at WWF and the Attitude era and all

956
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,159
of that, and then within the McMahon family unit itself.

957
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,320
I think that's that's a fascinating thing. They've done some

958
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,639
great documentaries about her, so it's it's kind of trod ground.

959
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,840
It's not like we'd be doing like a stare at

960
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,679
like a a trademark dive where we're going to uncover

961
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,199
all kinds of stuff or talk about stuff in waste

962
00:52:24,199 --> 00:52:26,639
people hadn't thought about before, because she's been analyzed in

963
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,840
that fashion six ways from Sunday. She was in her

964
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,639
last years being followed around constantly by documentary crew who

965
00:52:32,679 --> 00:52:36,320
eventually put a documentary out. But I don't know. There's

966
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,559
a lot there in what happened, what China did, and

967
00:52:39,559 --> 00:52:44,320
what happened to her. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, I

968
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,280
guess if it doesn't warrant a call, it doesn't want

969
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,440
a tribute. That's just a basic rule. Yeah, which of

970
00:52:50,519 --> 00:52:54,599
those three do you think you were closest to making

971
00:52:54,639 --> 00:52:58,280
the call for? If they're all even, you can say

972
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:58,639
that too.

973
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,039
Speaker 3: It's funny. Yeah, I don't know.

974
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:10,119
Speaker 2: I think China. I don't probably China, because China dying

975
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,599
was like not just oh my god, the piece of

976
00:53:12,639 --> 00:53:15,039
the childhood is gone, like the usual reason for the call.

977
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:19,880
It was also she's not gonna recover, She's not gonna

978
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,719
bounce back from the tailspin she went into after w

979
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,079
W E was done with her.

980
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 3: Right, right, She's just gonna be known for fucking nextpok

981
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:29,719
on camera.

982
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,159
Speaker 2: I mean that would have to be part of the tribute, right,

983
00:53:33,199 --> 00:53:34,639
we'd have to watch that along.

984
00:53:37,679 --> 00:53:38,519
Speaker 3: Do a deep dive.

985
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 2: That'll be our only fans the CoA chairs watch.

986
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:48,519
Speaker 3: Porn fucking watch wrestler porn, watch sucking the sunny, the

987
00:53:48,599 --> 00:53:52,440
sunny porns watched the wrestling vixens.

988
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,559
Speaker 2: Find that old porn that what's her name? Chastity was

989
00:53:55,599 --> 00:53:59,760
in from e c W. M Oh my god, that's

990
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,840
what or Major Guns was in one. Oh my god,

991
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,320
there's a nitro girl. I think No, no, that was

992
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,519
a UFC ring card girl. Oh my god, so funny.

993
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:10,639
Under the cinemat Once upon a Time in the West.

994
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,360
The comment from Craig Lasagna Westerns almost caused a two

995
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:24,039
car pile up. Shout out to Justin Jones for the

996
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,079
Patreon pledge we appreciated. Scott writes on JP's comment on

997
00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:30,840
the amount of clothes people wearing the desert. As a

998
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,039
Vegas resident, the smart ones who work outside keep fully covered.

999
00:54:34,199 --> 00:54:36,039
Yeah it's hot, but you got to protect your skin

1000
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:36,960
at all costs out here.

1001
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 3: I get, Okay, I'm trying to remember what we were.

1002
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,000
I guess it must have been once more time in

1003
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:47,719
the West or whenever you see. It's not it's not

1004
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,920
about that. I get that. I totally get that you

1005
00:54:50,039 --> 00:54:53,719
need to. It's it's the amount of clothing. And it's

1006
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,639
the heavy clothing that you see them wear. That's the

1007
00:54:57,679 --> 00:55:01,440
part I don't understand, right, Why the heavy, dark clothing

1008
00:55:02,599 --> 00:55:04,719
that just makes me want to die. The thought of.

1009
00:55:04,679 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 2: It, I know it puts me in a compromise position,

1010
00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:11,039
just thinking about yeah, yeah, he says, it's a minimum wet,

1011
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:14,000
light white and white long sleeve and usually athletic tights.

1012
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:18,119
Speaker 3: That that, yes, you see, that's fine. It's the it's

1013
00:55:18,199 --> 00:55:21,239
the stuff that you see when they're wearing bulky clothing.

1014
00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:26,559
And I'm like, why can you why think about robes?

1015
00:55:26,639 --> 00:55:30,079
Speaker 2: Think about being one of those soldiers carrying one hundred

1016
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:34,760
and fifty pounds of gear on your back, fully covered boots.

1017
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,280
It is one hundred and thirty degrees in Iraq, No, no,

1018
00:55:39,679 --> 00:55:42,480
and your life is on the line, and you're dehydrated

1019
00:55:44,159 --> 00:55:46,800
and you're miserable, and you're miserable and you're gonna die.

1020
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,880
What what do you want? It's what you don't want anything.

1021
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,440
I'm I'm just making a point. Actually, I don't want something.

1022
00:56:00,519 --> 00:56:04,119
Speaker 4: Sunday, August third, at noon, Fan takes on Times Square

1023
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,159
tickets at Comedy Village dot com.

1024
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 2: There goes the neighborhood. You fucking big, that's really where

1025
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:18,000
we belong. Scott also wants you to know. And I

1026
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,679
thought you'd love this, I always say, he writes, UTC

1027
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,239
drops on Friday are so perfect. Listen to the episode

1028
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:28,000
during the daytime, doing chores, do the watch along at

1029
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:30,800
night as the reward, and being able to look forward

1030
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,440
to the rest of the weekend and always fall asleep

1031
00:56:33,559 --> 00:56:38,119
after forty five minutes. Yes, it's lovely. A secret to

1032
00:56:38,159 --> 00:56:40,719
life man. In a lot of ways, it really is.

1033
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 3: Big fan, Big fan.

1034
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,679
Speaker 2: Brian Blake, one of the real Cinophiles in the Solar

1035
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,199
system and a long time supporter and a really solid

1036
00:56:48,679 --> 00:56:52,119
Sun bitch, writes to us regarding Fonda winning and acting

1037
00:56:52,119 --> 00:56:54,800
Oscar after getting an honorary one. We wondered if that

1038
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:59,000
ever happened before wait wits again. Henry Fonda winning and

1039
00:56:59,039 --> 00:57:01,280
acting at Oscar after getting an honorary one.

1040
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 3: Yes, oh yes, yes, yes yes.

1041
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 2: In terms of useless Oscar trivia, he writes, Paul Newman

1042
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,800
and learns Olivier both won a competitive acting oscar after

1043
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,360
winning an honorary one a year or two prior. I believe, wow,

1044
00:57:12,679 --> 00:57:15,920
he says. He believes. Also composer Ennio Morricone won his

1045
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,159
Hateful eight oscar after getting an honorary one. Is yes,

1046
00:57:19,639 --> 00:57:21,679
that is true. That is true, And he says. Harold

1047
00:57:21,719 --> 00:57:23,840
Russell is the rare trivia answer for winning both a

1048
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,000
competitive oscar and an honorary one for his supporting performance

1049
00:57:27,159 --> 00:57:29,440
in Best Years of Our Lives. He was an amateur

1050
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,360
actor and a disabled handless World War Two vett who

1051
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,360
was assumed to have little chance of winning. Harold is

1052
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,159
also why the Academy institutor rules selling off oscar as well.

1053
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:43,679
That's a fascinating thing. He he gives you. I mean,

1054
00:57:43,679 --> 00:57:48,599
that's that's didn't didn't Billy.

1055
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,599
Speaker 3: Graham sell off his ring?

1056
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah? It is a Hall of famer sold off a

1057
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:53,719
lot of things, and I think that was among them.

1058
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's tremendous.

1059
00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:02,079
Speaker 2: All the time has come, will Winthrop bt sports co chairs.

1060
00:58:02,719 --> 00:58:07,400
Unlike WWE, real sports seasons do end, therefore giving me

1061
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,320
more free time to finally send an email that's been

1062
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,159
in the pipeline for many months. With WW signing a

1063
00:58:12,199 --> 00:58:14,559
deal with Netflix, we have officially reached the end of

1064
00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:18,599
their partnership with BT Sports Wow, which is now confusingly

1065
00:58:18,639 --> 00:58:21,840
known as TNT Sports on these shores, to commemorate this

1066
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:36,760
movie exactly, you absolutely nailed it t n T Sports. Dude. Really,

1067
00:58:37,199 --> 00:58:40,679
I mean we're just gonna blow this wide open right now, dude.

1068
00:58:40,519 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 3: Brother, Yeah, I mean who you've been talking to about?

1069
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,679
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? You can call it d n T like.

1070
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: It.

1071
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:50,639
Speaker 3: Did you talk turkey with her brother?

1072
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: You don't know, whole cloaking an answer, Bro, what you're

1073
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,679
talking You're talking to Bill? You're talking to Bill Shaw?

1074
00:58:56,719 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 4: Bro?

1075
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 3: Wait you right, you can talk to Harvest Schuler. Did

1076
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,199
you did you shield brother?

1077
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 2: You shill for the Shulster tiss and his ah? Did

1078
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,039
you talk to the talk to brother?

1079
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:18,559
Speaker 3: Oh?

1080
00:59:18,719 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 2: Noises sounds brother brother brother brother brother with the very

1081
00:59:26,519 --> 00:59:32,719
concerning head spinning like a veladine lidar. Okay on top

1082
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,480
of a way mo. With WW signing a deal with Netflix,

1083
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,400
we've officially reached the end. To commemorate this milestone, I

1084
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,880
feel it's only right to follow in Mark mccol's footsteps

1085
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,079
and to leave my boots and fake mm A gloves

1086
00:59:44,119 --> 00:59:46,719
in the middle of the ring and for one last time,

1087
00:59:48,159 --> 00:59:51,800
provide a compilation of comments left on BT sports facebook page.

1088
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,559
Below is the photo BT uploaded, thanking WWE for the

1089
00:59:55,639 --> 00:59:57,920
memory as well. It's pretty quiet, pretty crazy. Let me

1090
00:59:58,079 --> 01:00:00,039
let me share that with you. This is moment. This

1091
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,519
has been a mailbag staple for years and years. And

1092
01:00:02,599 --> 01:00:06,119
get it another thing that the Netflix era just ruins.

1093
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Netflix sucks. Wow, look at that. Thanks for the memories.

1094
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,880
I mean it's funny too, like you know, you're seeing

1095
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,920
makes of the memories. But it's like everybody who is

1096
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:24,360
currently on roster except for is John Cena there? No

1097
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,679
he's not there. No he's not w W Champion John

1098
01:00:28,719 --> 01:00:32,880
Cena is not there. The Rock's there though, the Rocks there.

1099
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,559
Triple Ah has got a little better position, but I

1100
01:00:35,599 --> 01:00:38,400
don't know, they're like they're like right close there. Sure

1101
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,000
Rock has no business if you're not gonna Rock has

1102
01:00:41,039 --> 01:00:43,920
no business. Triple H has no business being on this

1103
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:49,559
fucking poster, none of them. Do. Look at that, brother,

1104
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,440
TNT Sports, dude, it's.

1105
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 2: Really weird to see the TNT logo right underneath WWE. Yep,

1106
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:01,280
intellectual property aka the wrestlers. So what do you say

1107
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,639
when I want to go one by one in Uh?

1108
01:01:04,239 --> 01:01:04,559
Speaker 3: Yes?

1109
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 2: Through what people commented on the finals Goodbye WWE article

1110
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:13,599
on at Sports absolutely do we'll start. Let me get

1111
01:01:13,599 --> 01:01:22,079
the let me pull it up here this waitte is

1112
01:01:22,199 --> 01:01:26,840
uh the oh yeah here it is? I get is

1113
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,360
how the general public marked their appreciation will winthro brights.

1114
01:01:31,559 --> 01:01:38,440
It wasn't much of an era. Lao. Pathetic. The whole

1115
01:01:38,519 --> 01:01:44,599
thing is pathetic. Who actually follows this? That's that's a

1116
01:01:44,639 --> 01:01:53,559
great one. TNT have realized it's not sport. Okay, never

1117
01:01:53,599 --> 01:02:02,599
watched anyways, end of the script. It's good silly eank

1118
01:02:02,679 --> 01:02:05,679
wrestling will not be missed at all. Yeah, it's supposed

1119
01:02:05,679 --> 01:02:15,000
to be a sports channel, not theater. Good ribbits. Oh

1120
01:02:15,079 --> 01:02:27,000
I love how angry as Oh.

1121
01:02:23,119 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 3: None of it's real.

1122
01:02:24,039 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 2: For Fox sake, WWE has been unwatchable for over a decade.

1123
01:02:29,199 --> 01:02:31,480
A huge success for T and T getting rid of

1124
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:37,119
that dead weight. I'm surprised people even pay a subscription

1125
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:41,199
to watch wrestling. It's fun when you're like six years old,

1126
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:51,599
cringe when you're full grown in dullas Sunday off. That's

1127
01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:56,079
so true. WWE is not sport, it's entertainment. The clue

1128
01:02:56,239 --> 01:03:02,119
is in the title. Get that as a T shirt factory.

1129
01:03:02,159 --> 01:03:03,599
Speaker 3: Man, Oh my god.

1130
01:03:03,639 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 2: We just set up an API, just pumped these comments

1131
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:07,719
right on a T shirt. Good.

1132
01:03:09,719 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 3: That's so brilliant. WWF Yes, I said it died in

1133
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:19,760
the nineties. Now it's just a circus act WCWNW.

1134
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 2: That's that's more like it. There's a little lot of

1135
01:03:22,559 --> 01:03:26,639
t peeking through, right, Uh huh. Great news. Hopefully TNT

1136
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:32,199
can put some actual spot in its place. All the

1137
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:36,639
so called grown men crying over a bunch men fake

1138
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,360
fighting in tights isn't on the TV anymore.

1139
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 3: Grow Up.

1140
01:03:46,599 --> 01:03:49,599
Speaker 2: That's a good one. That's a really good one. All

1141
01:03:49,679 --> 01:03:52,719
the so called grown men crying over a bunch of

1142
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,679
men fake fighting and tights isn't on the TV anymore.

1143
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:59,639
Grow Up, grow Up.

1144
01:04:00,159 --> 01:04:33,519
Speaker 1: A wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows the boys

1145
01:04:33,599 --> 01:05:09,599
need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. He's lapsed fan

1146
01:05:09,719 --> 01:05:13,400
wrestling podcast with Jack and Cap.

1147
01:05:13,599 --> 01:05:15,199
Speaker 3: So that's it.

1148
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:20,519
Speaker 2: Thanks for being boring, that's the comment. Replace it with

1149
01:05:20,639 --> 01:05:25,360
ease senders. Replace everything with these senders. Who on earth

1150
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:30,400
would pay money for a pantomime spot? All rehearsed, staged,

1151
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:39,360
and fixed. Biggest swindle in town. I think window oh man,

1152
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,559
all rehearsed, staged, and fixed.

1153
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:46,679
Speaker 3: Let's fucking go foal, Let's fucking go.

1154
01:05:49,239 --> 01:05:52,719
Speaker 2: Just shadow of its formself anyway, the golden days, when

1155
01:05:52,719 --> 01:05:55,760
the eighties and nineties, when the real character is not

1156
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,639
like the cardboard cutouts. Now, can you imagine trying to

1157
01:05:58,679 --> 01:06:01,480
make that qualification while other people are in the chat

1158
01:06:01,519 --> 01:06:04,639
saying this is the This is like impossibly cringe to

1159
01:06:04,679 --> 01:06:08,320
even consider watching. Oh, actually it was a lot better before.

1160
01:06:08,559 --> 01:06:13,199
Shut the fuck up, man, good good stick. Wait a minute,

1161
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:18,320
good stick, More football on. Here's a good one. There's

1162
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,280
another one. We should put on a T shirt.

1163
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 3: It was never a spoil.

1164
01:06:23,599 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 2: That one cuts.

1165
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 3: That's good.

1166
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 2: WWB is boring, that's it, says someone wrote that. Someone

1167
01:06:31,519 --> 01:06:33,239
went on the article and wrote that I don't.

1168
01:06:33,079 --> 01:06:34,679
Speaker 3: Need That's what.

1169
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:42,079
Speaker 2: You can. Finally cancel subscription has been making us pay

1170
01:06:42,119 --> 01:06:45,960
for this alone. God thing. We're with you, whatever your

1171
01:06:46,039 --> 01:06:50,519
name is, fucking Gretchen or whatever your name is. WW

1172
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:54,280
is fake wrestling. Ain't nobody gonna miss that bullshit on TV?

1173
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,920
Fake wrestling?

1174
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:03,159
Speaker 3: Its right, not as good as it was back in

1175
01:07:03,199 --> 01:07:06,199
the eighties and nineties the WWWE.

1176
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,599
Speaker 2: Someone just wrote the Losers.

1177
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:13,159
Speaker 3: Very popular.

1178
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,599
Speaker 2: God knows why if I paid one peep per year

1179
01:07:17,199 --> 01:07:19,559
for it and I feel like they I feel like

1180
01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:27,559
you were stealing my eyes. Still doesn't make it real,

1181
01:07:31,679 --> 01:07:33,320
so I can't sorry them.

1182
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 3: Leaving still doesn't make it real.

1183
01:07:38,679 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 2: I stopped watching WWE wrestling over sixteen years ago. Knows

1184
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,599
the exact day too. Huh. Yeah, put more UFC things

1185
01:07:46,599 --> 01:07:52,920
on and replacement actual combat instead of bad actors. Yeah,

1186
01:07:54,079 --> 01:08:00,800
the worst acting in pathetic Grown men League, worst acting

1187
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:06,159
and pathetic grown menly cringe. It is so gringe, it

1188
01:08:06,199 --> 01:08:06,639
really is.

1189
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:07,239
Speaker 3: It is.

1190
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:13,239
Speaker 2: It is no loss. WWE hasn't been good in decades, bomy.

1191
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:17,000
I thought they died or something, just not on TNT anymore.

1192
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,760
It turns out someone else wrote fuck off. That's all

1193
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:25,359
they wrote. Oh, I used to watches as a kid.

1194
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,439
How can you take that shit seriously as a fully

1195
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,920
grown adult. People out here calling it a sport like

1196
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,720
it's not made up athletic acting. Come on, guys, Logan

1197
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,880
Poles running around like he owns the gaff. You got

1198
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,600
people fighting YouTube as dressed as prime bottles. Jeez, what

1199
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:46,840
a load of top let's go, let's go, let's go.

1200
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:52,359
It goes down like fucking Nando's. Let's taste it. How

1201
01:08:53,079 --> 01:08:58,239
oh shit, people dressed as prime bottles. A load of

1202
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:02,159
tough is the best thing ever. I gotta find that

1203
01:09:02,279 --> 01:09:08,520
slang slang load of top, give me more, seriously, load

1204
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,600
of tough British slang phrase used to describe a group

1205
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,520
of people who are perceived as being from the upper

1206
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,439
class are wealthy, often with a negative connotation of snobbery.

1207
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:21,439
Oh interesting, Okay, okay, so it's upper class, okay, full

1208
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,680
of juice monkeys and Latex ain't missed it since the nineties.

1209
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:33,319
Juice monkeys in Latex. He said, how does an unknown

1210
01:09:33,359 --> 01:09:36,199
bleach blonde woman get a marquee spot on this poster?

1211
01:09:36,399 --> 01:09:42,600
Do tell correct question? And to replace w W E

1212
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:51,359
two and are you reading ahead? Is that what you're doing?

1213
01:09:50,479 --> 01:10:01,279
I haven't done. Just okay, you do it? You read this?

1214
01:10:01,399 --> 01:10:07,640
Replace and replace w W E T N T. Spots

1215
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,199
are going to be showing live Tidle Wings.

1216
01:10:16,319 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 4: Life.

1217
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:32,319
Speaker 2: It's not taped, not at all. We're live from Wembley Winner.

1218
01:10:32,359 --> 01:10:35,840
We're a live Timney Wings competition is underway.

1219
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:42,319
Speaker 3: Yes here we are once again live Tilly Wings Wembley Stadium,

1220
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:51,640
the sport to end all sports. We are at the

1221
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,760
TWE Tiddley Wings Entertainment.

1222
01:10:57,079 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 2: Drop did you say Tindley Winks Entertainment t W Tidley

1223
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:24,520
Wings Entertainment. That's what they replaced Timm W with. There's

1224
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,920
some guy man. He's in Leads or he's in Wigan.

1225
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,439
I don't know where he is man, but he's in

1226
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:34,479
Brighton or he's in the hall. He sat down and

1227
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:38,279
he typed that, and here we are all these weeks later.

1228
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:45,000
Oh my god, com losing our ship because that's what

1229
01:11:45,039 --> 01:11:49,199
you get for reading your head. By the way, Oh

1230
01:11:49,319 --> 01:11:54,960
my god. It's good stuff, though, Who watches this prescriptive

1231
01:11:55,119 --> 01:12:00,600
rubbish must be so bored pre scripted as opposed to

1232
01:12:01,359 --> 01:12:07,239
post You must be postscripted. You must be so, you

1233
01:12:07,319 --> 01:12:09,600
must be so bored that you're watching this shit. It's

1234
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:14,159
a good hit. That's such a deep cut, that's tremendous. Yeah,

1235
01:12:14,199 --> 01:12:22,359
I don't watch it anymore. It's shite now absolute bum liquors.

1236
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:27,119
Good now you have money to pay for proper sports.

1237
01:12:27,319 --> 01:12:29,720
WW is the worst it's been for a long time.

1238
01:12:30,079 --> 01:12:37,840
Surely no loss for TNT sports. Harmless harmys there's a

1239
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:42,159
fucking T shirt. Hardly a sport anywhere anyway. Oh look,

1240
01:12:42,239 --> 01:12:44,079
the circus is leaving town.

1241
01:12:49,159 --> 01:12:52,319
Speaker 3: And all those brands are so bad now. Fatality is

1242
01:12:52,359 --> 01:12:55,920
so bad it's not even enjoyable. Wrestling died in two

1243
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:56,600
thousand and two.

1244
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 2: Really, oh here, it is not really sport? Is it

1245
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:03,560
should be on a children's channel.

1246
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 3: It's like on after Sesame Tree.

1247
01:13:13,319 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 2: Oh my god, should be on a children's channel. Prioritize

1248
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:22,960
in wrestling over football coverage was the downfall of BT sports. Wow,

1249
01:13:23,399 --> 01:13:25,800
WWE still exists, fair play.

1250
01:13:27,399 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 3: It must be real if Netflix is picking it up.

1251
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 2: So William concludes, not an especially fawn farewell from the public.

1252
01:13:36,039 --> 01:13:40,359
Hopefully they'll be oh my god, Hopefully they'll be more

1253
01:13:40,359 --> 01:13:43,039
appreciative when ww coomes groveling back to TV after they've

1254
01:13:43,079 --> 01:13:45,399
booted off Netflix, once they've swept up the rights for

1255
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,680
real sports and no longer have any desire for coordinated combat.

1256
01:13:49,159 --> 01:13:51,600
I should also note that I peeked back in for

1257
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,800
that first Netflix raw that you did a live call

1258
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,600
for perhaps the worst wrestling show of all time and

1259
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,039
probably the last wrestling show I'll ever watch in full,

1260
01:13:59,239 --> 01:14:03,399
pure adulterated shite. The fact I canceled my Netflix subscription

1261
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:07,600
two weeks later. Was not a coincidence other malebatic musings.

1262
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,880
I rely on Jack going on old man rants to

1263
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,479
give me cathartic release. And when he mentioned the jackass

1264
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:14,479
Pat McAfee being all over the place when he watches

1265
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,800
ESPN a few months ago, I was hoping he'd rant

1266
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,560
on something that is a major annoyance for me. But alas,

1267
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,039
I'm going to have to prompt him. When, why and

1268
01:14:22,079 --> 01:14:25,279
how the fuck did we as a society decide that

1269
01:14:25,399 --> 01:14:28,239
every sports analyst had to pair their suits with the

1270
01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:31,920
whitest crispus sneakers available. Yep, yes, this is so true.

1271
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 3: Also when did it?

1272
01:14:34,359 --> 01:14:34,600
Speaker 2: When?

1273
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:35,039
Speaker 4: Why?

1274
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:41,119
Speaker 2: Look, he writes, just good, be a fucking adult and

1275
01:14:41,199 --> 01:14:42,279
put some proper shoes.

1276
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 3: That's basically what I was going to say. I was

1277
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,199
going to say, why why are we? Why are we

1278
01:14:47,199 --> 01:14:52,439
wearing sneakers? It's a great question. I I listen, and

1279
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:54,920
this is coming from somebody who ended up having to

1280
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,039
buy sneaks. Did I tell you? Did I tell you

1281
01:14:57,039 --> 01:14:59,439
this story about the wedding that we went to in

1282
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:04,239
the city, So we go, we'd go to black tie

1283
01:15:04,279 --> 01:15:11,000
wedding in New York and after the ceremony there this

1284
01:15:11,119 --> 01:15:14,279
was the fucking worst. After the ceremony, there was a

1285
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:20,279
three hour break between the ceremony and the reception, starting

1286
01:15:20,399 --> 01:15:23,600
the cocktail hour. It's like you got a bunch of

1287
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:28,399
people dressed up in gowns and tuxedos wandering around the

1288
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:33,880
Upper east Side looking like complete goofs. Okay, And so

1289
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,680
I ended up. I had I had some I had

1290
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,520
actually i'd worn my wedding shoes for the first time

1291
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:44,000
I'd worn them since my wedding, not realizing that the

1292
01:15:44,039 --> 01:15:50,119
glue to my souls was dead. And so we leave

1293
01:15:50,159 --> 01:15:51,560
the ceremony and all of a sudden, I feel like

1294
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:53,600
something flapping on my foot, like what the fuck is this?

1295
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:58,079
And the soul just falls right off. Oh my god.

1296
01:15:59,399 --> 01:16:01,279
I'm like, oh, okay, well that happened.

1297
01:16:01,399 --> 01:16:01,560
Speaker 1: Uh.

1298
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 3: I had brought sneakers, thank god. But and then and

1299
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:11,119
then as I'm walking, you keep walking, the second falls off.

1300
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:14,600
I know. I'm just like, so I'm walking around with

1301
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,880
no like just it's just a complete disaster. And so

1302
01:16:18,159 --> 01:16:20,800
my wife says, all right, there's a foot locker. Let's

1303
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,560
just go there and get you some shoes. So keep

1304
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:30,720
them again, tuxedo down, we walk into foot locker, and

1305
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:34,359
I ended up buying not by choice, but because they

1306
01:16:34,359 --> 01:16:37,000
were the only ones that look kind of, you know, classy,

1307
01:16:37,199 --> 01:16:41,560
but these black air Jordans, And so I got these

1308
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,319
air Jordans on my fucking but like again, we're buying

1309
01:16:44,359 --> 01:16:47,760
them these you know what, one hundred and fifty dollars shoes,

1310
01:16:48,399 --> 01:16:51,319
which I which I criticized my kid for wanting all

1311
01:16:51,319 --> 01:16:54,640
the time, and yet here I am buying them out

1312
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:58,840
of necessity. And but I have to say, I'll tell

1313
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:02,479
you what the difference though, is this they were black,

1314
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,920
they weren't white. Wearing a suit and white sneakers is stupid.

1315
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:12,640
Sneakers available, wear black sneakers. At least wear black sneakers

1316
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,960
or some a darker color unless you're wearing a white suit.

1317
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:17,680
I suppose then that would work. But like, come on,

1318
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,600
be an adult and match your fucking clothes, all right.

1319
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:26,039
Can't let him down, can't let well down. So millennials

1320
01:17:26,079 --> 01:17:32,479
decided that collecting sneakers said something about how in the

1321
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,479
know you were. I don't know how this happened, but

1322
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,520
that was what a lot of millennials decided to do.

1323
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,640
Once they got into the workforce and started to generate

1324
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:48,079
disposable income. Is they decided to start flexing their their

1325
01:17:48,119 --> 01:17:54,079
knowledge of the culture by wearing sneakers to work. Listen, listen, listen.

1326
01:17:54,359 --> 01:17:55,960
It's just an excuse. And I don't have to wear

1327
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,720
fucking to not get dressed. That's all anyone sees. That's

1328
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,079
what it is. That's all it is, unless you're I'm

1329
01:18:02,079 --> 01:18:04,920
not like mind, I don't, I don't. I don't fault

1330
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,600
people for that, but what I think, but don't act

1331
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:10,279
like you're wearing fucking adult clothing.

1332
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 2: Millennials fell hard for this idea that we're going to

1333
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,680
take streetwear and we're going to charge four hundred dollars

1334
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,840
for it, and so you can wear what you wore

1335
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:23,079
in junior high school but feel luxury at the same time. Right,

1336
01:18:23,159 --> 01:18:25,159
and a lot of the luxury brands were happy to

1337
01:18:25,239 --> 01:18:27,920
capitalize on this. Pretty soon, Prada had sneakers that looked

1338
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:29,920
like they were Nikes. What are we doing here, like

1339
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,600
air Force ones, Well, I don't know what we're doing

1340
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:36,359
here is making money. Because these fucking tastes are so pathetic,

1341
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:38,039
we'll just cater to them in colors.

1342
01:18:38,119 --> 01:18:41,039
Speaker 3: This is why, this is why it bothers me that

1343
01:18:41,039 --> 01:18:44,920
that like that that that you know, there's this confusion

1344
01:18:45,239 --> 01:18:49,399
over where our generation lies in terms of you know,

1345
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:51,720
and I don't like being included as a millennial.

1346
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:52,279
Speaker 2: I know we are.

1347
01:18:52,319 --> 01:18:55,600
Speaker 3: I don't like that at all at pisses we're.

1348
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,560
Speaker 2: The working stiffs now, millennials are the working stiffs.

1349
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 3: I just I just don't like being cluded. I don't

1350
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,039
consider myself to be a millennial at all. I think

1351
01:19:03,079 --> 01:19:06,239
I'm some I'm I'm I don't like it. I don't

1352
01:19:06,319 --> 01:19:10,279
like it at all because I don't identify with them.

1353
01:19:10,319 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 2: Yeah I identify X, right, but I'm not you know, right,

1354
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,640
I know we're in this weird like the these kind

1355
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:23,600
of early to mid eighties berths are these is this

1356
01:19:24,199 --> 01:19:28,600
kind of weird neutral zone, Yeah, where like you kind

1357
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:30,199
of fit into a bunch of different ones.

1358
01:19:30,239 --> 01:19:32,319
Speaker 3: And just I'm like, no, fuck that, it's all.

1359
01:19:32,359 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 2: It's it's part of the same cycle of like, you know,

1360
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,560
we get into our thirties and forties and we try

1361
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,640
to collect all the things that we wanted as kids

1362
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,399
but we couldn't have, and the market's still there because

1363
01:19:41,399 --> 01:19:43,239
it's not like the next generation of kids wants any

1364
01:19:43,239 --> 01:19:47,399
of the shit. So our dumb ass adults. Wallets are

1365
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:50,680
opening for this stuff. And yeah, sure we'll sell you sneakers.

1366
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,720
If you're going to pay three hundred dollars for them

1367
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:54,720
so you feel good wearing them to work, that's fine.

1368
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:57,319
We'll do that. And pretty soon all dress shoe brands

1369
01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,760
have got to have the gum shoe underneath, and they

1370
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,960
got to look like sneakers or like golf shoes almost.

1371
01:20:03,079 --> 01:20:03,239
Speaker 3: You know.

1372
01:20:04,199 --> 01:20:06,359
Speaker 2: That's another thing about dress wear. It's like, why does

1373
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:10,720
everyone suddenly start dressing like their fucking shooter McGavin. When

1374
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:14,640
did this happen? When is everyone walking around on their

1375
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:18,279
way to or from the golf course. That's not dress wear,

1376
01:20:18,319 --> 01:20:22,039
that's golf wear, that's sportswear. It's fine whatever, But but

1377
01:20:22,119 --> 01:20:27,000
he's right, there's like this guy like like, what's the

1378
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,520
word I'm looking for? Pat McAfee kind of exemplifies it

1379
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:33,159
a little bit, you know, like party animal jock. But

1380
01:20:33,279 --> 01:20:36,279
he's dressing up. He's got the fit. He'll say fit

1381
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:40,479
like with a straight face, and he's just dressing down

1382
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:41,439
what used to be.

1383
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,239
Speaker 3: It's like a suit. He's he's like wearing he's like

1384
01:20:44,279 --> 01:20:46,720
wearing like a suit but with like a like a

1385
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,079
wife beater and that ship.

1386
01:20:49,159 --> 01:20:52,399
Speaker 2: And I can't stand that there's certain things that are timeless.

1387
01:20:53,199 --> 01:20:57,079
You know, lock in folks before it's too late. Yeah,

1388
01:20:57,079 --> 01:20:58,840
it's definitely, I mean definitely like.

1389
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:02,119
Speaker 3: A confusing We're gonna assume we're gonna be wearing fucking

1390
01:21:02,119 --> 01:21:05,600
bathing suits and uh uh you know, and and and

1391
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:08,279
uh tube tops everybody.

1392
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:10,359
Speaker 2: Everybody have to dress all the time in a way

1393
01:21:10,399 --> 01:21:13,439
that's designed to remind you that they burn calories like

1394
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,239
a motherfucker. Oh you know what I mean. Everybody's got

1395
01:21:16,279 --> 01:21:19,399
to look performance. Everything's performance. Now these are these look

1396
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:22,640
like dress pants, but you can actually run a fucking tryathl.

1397
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:24,680
Speaker 3: Why would you want to do that?

1398
01:21:25,199 --> 01:21:28,520
Speaker 2: It's that fucking high end active Oh God help us.

1399
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,199
All it is is COVID got us so fucking comfortable

1400
01:21:31,239 --> 01:21:33,039
in our home clothes that we didn't want to leave them.

1401
01:21:33,279 --> 01:21:35,199
And people were able to convince us that they could,

1402
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,640
They could three x the price of some of these things,

1403
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,600
and and and and create a sense of luxury and

1404
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:46,000
status around a fucking hooded sweatshirt, which is the ultimate

1405
01:21:46,079 --> 01:21:48,159
bum thing to throw on, which is fine. I love

1406
01:21:48,239 --> 01:21:50,960
a good hoodie. Who doesn't, But the idea they found

1407
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:52,920
a way to charge us six hundred dollars for hoodies

1408
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:56,039
is just the deep the deepest indictment of the species.

1409
01:21:56,079 --> 01:21:57,439
I can't becauly.

1410
01:21:57,079 --> 01:21:59,640
Speaker 3: Because you know why, because our kids will will they

1411
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:03,920
they want to well, that's they want to spend. It

1412
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:07,760
is a big problem. And wearing fucking you know, getting

1413
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,239
getting my kids sweatshirts with all these fucking nineties bands

1414
01:22:11,239 --> 01:22:11,560
on them.

1415
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:13,359
Speaker 2: I'm dressed for work, but I want you to know

1416
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,520
I work out. I want you to know every fucking

1417
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,680
second you're looking at me, I work out.

1418
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 3: Well that's fine, go work out, But why don't you

1419
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,800
work in here? Okay, why don't you get dressed like

1420
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,800
a fucking human and work in here and work out

1421
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:27,600
on your own time.

1422
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 2: Everyone's got backpacks now because they have to put in

1423
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:33,239
fucking six hours at the gym after work. Like what

1424
01:22:33,279 --> 01:22:36,399
do we doing, folks? Can we just like separate these things,

1425
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:40,560
like compartmentalize them? Perhaps, but no, I gotta watch this

1426
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:47,000
guy literally do like thrust squats and in dress clothes. Well,

1427
01:22:47,039 --> 01:22:49,279
does he does he have a Does he does he

1428
01:22:49,359 --> 01:22:52,159
have one of those uh those rising desks where you

1429
01:22:52,159 --> 01:22:53,359
can tread underneath?

1430
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:55,119
Speaker 3: Yes he does?

1431
01:22:56,199 --> 01:23:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeh that's right, stand I read I read somewhere burn calleries,

1432
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:02,279
So of course it's I like to walk and work,

1433
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:08,680
which you're burning my patience. Hey helps me burn calories.

1434
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:10,720
I come step to the mic and I'm screaming my

1435
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,319
fucking ass off, So I guess, I guess it works

1436
01:23:13,359 --> 01:23:17,039
for everybody. Will also says feel like every email these

1437
01:23:17,079 --> 01:23:20,079
days must ask about cinemat qualifiers, so I shall follow suit.

1438
01:23:20,279 --> 01:23:22,359
This may have already been answered as I'm behind on cinemat,

1439
01:23:22,399 --> 01:23:24,159
But do real actors who play a character on a

1440
01:23:24,199 --> 01:23:27,520
wrestling show qualify, such as David Ketchner, who was the

1441
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:29,760
original right to censor for a show or two, or

1442
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:31,800
Leland Jones, who was one of the cops that tried

1443
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:34,960
to arrest Goldberg for stalking Liz. I mainly asked to

1444
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,359
make sure David Crumholtz, who start as the fake Drew

1445
01:23:37,399 --> 01:23:40,359
McIntyre and the Thunderdome apparently makes the Santa Claus as

1446
01:23:40,359 --> 01:23:43,479
cinemat eligible. Did he really don't know anything about this?

1447
01:23:44,119 --> 01:23:47,640
I don't know that at all. Oh my god, that's

1448
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,720
really fesingring a thundered doome. Raw he likes a body

1449
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,640
double for Drew McIntyre. I guess that's really funny. I

1450
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:58,399
mean it all depends. I mean it's not that simple

1451
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:04,479
per se, but like I like them to be more involved,

1452
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:09,159
preferably and then just made a cameo. Then just having

1453
01:24:09,199 --> 01:24:14,239
made a cameo like like like you know, I'd say,

1454
01:24:14,239 --> 01:24:17,079
I'd say the best example, in my opinion, of somebody

1455
01:24:17,079 --> 01:24:19,199
who didn't actually even get in the ring but was

1456
01:24:19,279 --> 01:24:23,520
constant is Leslie Nielsen because of the ninety four Yeah,

1457
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:27,359
he actually took you on TV pro right, can they

1458
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:31,720
on TV for a month or more? You know with

1459
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,920
all these little vignettes and stuff. So he's like, really,

1460
01:24:35,239 --> 01:24:38,000
that's a real connection. Yeah, I don't know. I'd have

1461
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,359
to take a look. It's a case by case thing. Also,

1462
01:24:40,359 --> 01:24:43,720
it depends, it depends, I won't lie about this, depends

1463
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:46,239
on how desperate I'm willing to put a movie. Of course,

1464
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:50,439
you're old, you're just a human being. Yeah, but some

1465
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,760
ridiculous ones. Oh there's a wrestling scene on a TV

1466
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:54,520
in one scene, it's like, okay.

1467
01:24:54,279 --> 01:24:57,199
Speaker 3: Oh that totally that that listen that if they if

1468
01:24:57,199 --> 01:25:00,760
they are if they, I will say this, if the

1469
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:05,920
if the director, because there's there there there, we've already

1470
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,399
done one of them that that that qualified, that was

1471
01:25:09,199 --> 01:25:12,520
natural Born Killers. It's the only reason why I qualified

1472
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,279
was because it was you know, and that to me

1473
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:18,439
is the like. But if they if the if the

1474
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,960
director whoever it is, Oliver Stone or the guy who

1475
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:26,920
directed the movie The Fugitive sequel Us Marshalls decides to

1476
01:25:27,079 --> 01:25:32,159
focus the camera on TV that is featuring wrestling and

1477
01:25:32,199 --> 01:25:35,800
they don't cut it out of the film. That is

1478
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:39,479
a definite qualification because there is a they chose to

1479
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:43,920
keep that in. They chose to keep that in, and

1480
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,920
that is a major qualification of it. But to your point,

1481
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:51,399
like a cameo like all the raw gms, the guest

1482
01:25:51,399 --> 01:25:54,640
hosts and stuff like that. Yeah, I just it. It

1483
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:56,920
feels a little too easy for me. But again it's

1484
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,920
a case by case basis. I mean, honestly, David crumholdts,

1485
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:04,000
you know, the Santa Claus, I would movies like that,

1486
01:26:04,199 --> 01:26:08,199
Christmas movies especially. It's like, I'm more than willing to

1487
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:13,079
to to make exceptions for that because because I'm I

1488
01:26:13,279 --> 01:26:13,720
I love that.

1489
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:15,600
Speaker 2: I can't believe the one It's a wonderful life that

1490
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,399
you found. I thought that was never gonna happen. I know,

1491
01:26:19,199 --> 01:26:21,199
we're just like, sorry, I can't, man, I can't do it.

1492
01:26:21,239 --> 01:26:24,640
I was like okay, and then was and I went

1493
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:26,760
running to my bookcase to get my It's a Wonderful

1494
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:27,279
Life book.

1495
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:32,359
Speaker 3: And the fact that he makes it on the screen

1496
01:26:32,399 --> 01:26:35,159
too is what's my So you know, that's the best

1497
01:26:35,199 --> 01:26:38,199
part is that he actually makes it. That's always you know,

1498
01:26:38,239 --> 01:26:41,239
when you have the actors who the wrestlers who are

1499
01:26:41,239 --> 01:26:44,439
in the movies, who are mostly background, they don't really

1500
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:47,840
have a real part, it's it's it's so much more

1501
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,720
satisfying when we can find them yeah and see them

1502
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:54,359
and like say, hey, there they are, we got them.

1503
01:26:54,399 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 2: I agree. That's that really brings it home. Like Joe

1504
01:26:56,720 --> 01:27:00,079
Fowler an Independence Day, that you can see him is

1505
01:27:00,079 --> 01:27:01,279
so important.

1506
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:05,359
Speaker 3: So hardly but he's there. Even Jola Creta like, we

1507
01:27:05,399 --> 01:27:08,560
couldn't see him in uh in uh Friends of Any Coil,

1508
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:10,720
but we could see him in Jaws and that was huge.

1509
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:14,279
Speaker 2: Now cute one of the Christmas movies and stuff, it's

1510
01:27:14,319 --> 01:27:17,039
August too early for pumpkin spice.

1511
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 3: Never never ever listen, They've they've been sought at Walmart,

1512
01:27:24,159 --> 01:27:26,520
they're already selling pumpkins spice. And I can't wait. August.

1513
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,039
End of August. They've got to someone. Someone texted me

1514
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:33,119
the date. They've got a p SL date. Listen the

1515
01:27:33,199 --> 01:27:35,720
moment it comes out. I don't care when it is.

1516
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:36,439
It's fall.

1517
01:27:37,399 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 2: What if it's like a crafts I'll be drinking it

1518
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:44,720
and I'll be wearing a big ass fucking coat. All right,

1519
01:27:45,279 --> 01:27:48,640
I don't care. I'm ready. I have found myself and

1520
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:52,279
these dogs end of July. End of July, I'm ready

1521
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:54,600
for for a fucking fall. I think that's what makes

1522
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:57,439
me ask about it is I've now, I've now downloaded

1523
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:01,840
that cadence myself, and I'm just I found myself in

1524
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:03,479
some of these dog days, a summer kind of day

1525
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:06,800
dreaming about the sound of leaves scraping on the cement

1526
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:08,159
as they're blown down the street.

1527
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:12,119
Speaker 3: Yes, just the idea of opening the door and it's brisk,

1528
01:28:12,399 --> 01:28:17,000
but it's not freezing, of course, not just brisk. Love

1529
01:28:17,039 --> 01:28:21,119
that love that feeling. Okay, I cannot wait for that

1530
01:28:21,159 --> 01:28:24,720
because he doesn't feel like that right now? Does it?

1531
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:28,199
The door? Oh my god, it it feels like fucking

1532
01:28:29,079 --> 01:28:34,159
hell on earth. Just today was brutal. It was today,

1533
01:28:34,199 --> 01:28:38,840
It was fucking brutal. I so today was one of

1534
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:42,520
those days. You could be in the car. You could

1535
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:45,479
be in the car for an hour and a half. Okay,

1536
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:49,680
your car is ice cold from air conditioning. You get out,

1537
01:28:50,159 --> 01:28:52,800
you have to go drop something off of the fucking mailbox.

1538
01:28:53,119 --> 01:28:56,159
All right, You're gone for thirty seconds tops. By the

1539
01:28:56,199 --> 01:28:59,439
time you get back, you're hot. Your car is a

1540
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:05,159
fucking lava pit. It's like, it doesn't matter, it's that hot.

1541
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:10,119
It was awful today. I want to shoot.

1542
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 2: People love that ship. They love when it's so hot.

1543
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,399
Speaker 3: Man, Oh, I can't. I know. My wife's my wife

1544
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:19,439
like she lives for the sun. She lives for the sun.

1545
01:29:20,279 --> 01:29:22,720
And I'm like, I want the sun to go away.

1546
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:27,119
Speaker 2: Doesn't that say so much? Why can't it be gray outside?

1547
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:29,640
I know, I mean, I don't want to be gray

1548
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,560
per se, but I don't want the sun to be like,

1549
01:29:33,039 --> 01:29:35,439
you know, overwhelming my ship, right, I want to be

1550
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:37,560
I want to think about other things than the fact

1551
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:41,199
that it's one hundred degrees. But if it's a hundred degrees,

1552
01:29:41,199 --> 01:29:42,600
I can't think about anything else.

1553
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,119
Speaker 3: And not to mention, like I go to walk my

1554
01:29:45,159 --> 01:29:47,159
fucking dog and this is that type of time of

1555
01:29:47,279 --> 01:29:50,680
year and he's just so humid and they're just fucking

1556
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:54,000
gnats flying like the moment you walk outside.

1557
01:29:54,359 --> 01:29:59,239
Speaker 2: Then I was like, yeah, they do not call the

1558
01:29:59,279 --> 01:30:02,279
fuck down. And it's like they're like all over my face,

1559
01:30:02,319 --> 01:30:04,680
They're going in my fucking ears. It's just it's miss

1560
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:08,840
what's there to recommend it? I know, I know, just

1561
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:15,000
mosquitos nats die. It's great, just awful, says. If there's

1562
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:16,680
one thing I know about the co chairs, it's that

1563
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:19,119
you always appreciate being reminded of any pressing insight from

1564
01:30:19,159 --> 01:30:21,479
previous shows. Therefore, here's a quote from Jack on the

1565
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:24,000
Summer Slam ninety seven episode when asked about the moment

1566
01:30:24,039 --> 01:30:25,840
that cemented him as a lapsed fan at three hours

1567
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:29,079
nineteen minutes. Quote, when I realized that what wrestling was

1568
01:30:29,079 --> 01:30:32,159
going to be post WCW folding was Triple H and

1569
01:30:32,279 --> 01:30:34,520
his many ascents up the mountain, and everything was going

1570
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:36,760
to revolve around him when he had the power to

1571
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:39,119
make the hype about him. No matter what happens, who

1572
01:30:39,119 --> 01:30:41,359
comes in, or what storyline they book, it's basically about

1573
01:30:41,359 --> 01:30:44,680
Triple H. Either Triple H is winning or he's making somebody.

1574
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:46,960
And that's still too much Triple H for me, And

1575
01:30:47,039 --> 01:30:49,279
even now in today's new world is Paul where he's

1576
01:30:49,279 --> 01:30:52,399
baby facing himself as the NXT mastermind, as this great

1577
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:55,800
architect of WW accepting indie rific style matches, It's still

1578
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:58,399
about Triple H. And I don't care about Triple H

1579
01:30:58,479 --> 01:30:58,920
that much.

1580
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,319
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's so fucking.

1581
01:31:02,279 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 2: But in twenty seventeen, and given that Netflix show opened

1582
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:07,880
with him revealed in the ring like a big like

1583
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:11,960
a bad David Blaine trick, safe to say it's even

1584
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:13,920
worse than before. Say who went into the Hall of

1585
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:17,279
Fame this year? God, you recently mentioned The Pain off

1586
01:31:17,279 --> 01:31:19,279
the Pacific as an underrated journey. I feel they need

1587
01:31:19,279 --> 01:31:21,359
to admit that because of that journey, including a throwaway

1588
01:31:21,399 --> 01:31:27,399
riff on Larry's Bbisco visiting Tji Fridays.

1589
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:30,399
Speaker 3: No, I don't remember that, but.

1590
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 2: I know immediately think of three things whenever I see

1591
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:35,800
a sports announce their favorite restaurant, chosen order, and how

1592
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:38,720
they address their waitress. For example, anytime I watch Sunday

1593
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:41,920
Night football, immediately picture Mike Tirrico ordering a Ribie it

1594
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:44,399
out back after the game and making the effort to

1595
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:49,920
read the waitress's name tag such good stuff. I remember

1596
01:31:50,199 --> 01:31:52,640
Damn Jack being enraged to Wrestlingia thirty three for having

1597
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:55,119
Pitbull concert five hours in and demanding to know who

1598
01:31:55,159 --> 01:31:57,680
on earth could want that. Well, we found the one person.

1599
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,880
Darts prodigy Luke Littler was a kid in attendance for

1600
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:04,720
the show. Okay, there's the darks darts. There are no products.

1601
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:07,119
Well into darts. My friend will as well. At the darts,

1602
01:32:07,119 --> 01:32:07,720
I can tell.

1603
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 3: Like like like it's like being a bowling prodigy. All right,

1604
01:32:13,079 --> 01:32:17,680
I'm sorry, it's just not happening. No, I can't. I

1605
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:18,520
can't stand by that.

1606
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 2: What's going to be in the Olympics for the first

1607
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:27,439
time this year? They had break dancing last time, adding

1608
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:31,359
something else ludicrous. Darts prodigy Luke Littler was a kid

1609
01:32:31,399 --> 01:32:33,640
in attendance for the show and now uses that song

1610
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:37,399
as his entrance music because of that, it is the wow,

1611
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:40,800
absolute bane of my life. Making that song a regular

1612
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:43,880
part of my life is Vince's biggest crime. And finally,

1613
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:46,600
over the past year, you've been asking people to say

1614
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:48,840
what TLF means to them in honor of TLFX. Here's

1615
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:52,000
my testimony. Because of TLF, I know what Jeff Town

1616
01:32:52,159 --> 01:32:56,479
is I sent an email to you five years ago

1617
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:58,840
saying that I couldn't get the sound of Jeff's grandmother

1618
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:00,840
playing the piano out of my head after watching it,

1619
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:02,000
and you said I never would.

1620
01:33:02,079 --> 01:33:02,520
Speaker 3: You were right.

1621
01:33:03,199 --> 01:33:05,359
Speaker 2: Not a week goes by where that sound doesn't cross

1622
01:33:05,399 --> 01:33:07,239
my mind. So fuck you for that.

1623
01:33:08,039 --> 01:33:14,279
Speaker 3: It's all it's it's listen that that, you know. It's

1624
01:33:14,399 --> 01:33:17,880
like it's like when you go it's like when you

1625
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:21,439
go to another country that has you know. I think

1626
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:24,359
about the time I went to the Dominican Republican vacation.

1627
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:27,960
I found out a year later that the place we

1628
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,680
went to was a hub for malaria. Sure, and it's

1629
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:33,039
like you're just you're just you're you're just consumed by

1630
01:33:33,039 --> 01:33:34,479
that now and you can't. I couldn't.

1631
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:36,319
Speaker 2: I want to donate blood. I'm you know, I've never

1632
01:33:36,319 --> 01:33:37,800
been able to successfully donate blood.

1633
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 3: Ever. The first time I did, they hit two veins

1634
01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:47,520
and might they clotted like crazy, and so I couldn't.

1635
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:49,319
I gave. I could only give like a quarter of

1636
01:33:49,319 --> 01:33:52,399
a pint, and it was like, no good. So that

1637
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,640
was the first time. The second time was this time

1638
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:58,880
after this vacation, and they said no because I wanted

1639
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:00,199
to I want I need to find out my blood

1640
01:34:00,199 --> 01:34:03,119
type because my kid was being born. And so this

1641
01:34:03,159 --> 01:34:06,039
is right before we started the show. And and they said,

1642
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:08,920
have you been to the Dominican Republican the last year?

1643
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:12,119
It is yeah, well then we can't take your blood

1644
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:17,279
because because you know, because that's a hub for malaria.

1645
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:21,720
It's like, fuck me. And even this, even this last

1646
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:25,159
the last time I did it, there was there was

1647
01:34:25,239 --> 01:34:30,159
a there was a place at my wife's work and

1648
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:34,039
they were doing like a blood drive. And this is

1649
01:34:34,079 --> 01:34:36,800
the third time, okay, third time I've tried to give blood.

1650
01:34:38,159 --> 01:34:44,199
And their computers broke down and I couldn't wait, Like

1651
01:34:44,239 --> 01:34:45,680
I couldn't wait, Like I was there for over an

1652
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:47,319
hour waiting for them to get their computers in the

1653
01:34:47,319 --> 01:34:50,199
fix and get their systems back online.

1654
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 2: And I couldn't do it. I had to leave. I

1655
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:54,199
had to go to an appointment. It's like, I just

1656
01:34:54,319 --> 01:34:58,960
am not meant to give blood, not meant to donate

1657
01:34:59,039 --> 01:35:03,000
my fucking blood. You know. There are worse things.

1658
01:35:03,359 --> 01:35:07,640
Speaker 3: And that was for that was for a big reason.

1659
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:10,359
This was maybe a year or two ago. There was

1660
01:35:10,399 --> 01:35:12,600
a reason too, because like like there was a lot

1661
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:17,199
of I forget what happened where they needed blood. Oh yeah,

1662
01:35:17,079 --> 01:35:19,920
U earthquakers something maybe it was an earthquake or natural

1663
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:22,960
disaster and there was like just a need for blood.

1664
01:35:23,039 --> 01:35:26,359
And I was like, all right, gladly, I want to,

1665
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:27,560
but it just never works out.

1666
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 2: It's amazing, it's wacky.

1667
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:31,520
Speaker 3: It's wacky. It's like, I mean, three times. I know

1668
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:34,119
I haven't like tried a million times, but it's like

1669
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:36,239
I just never been able to. It's just to me,

1670
01:35:36,279 --> 01:35:39,159
it's weird that in three times, I've never over over

1671
01:35:39,199 --> 01:35:43,920
the span of twenty six years, three times, and I've

1672
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:44,840
never been able to give it.

1673
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:46,720
Speaker 2: And you never tried to blade in one of those renaissance.

1674
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:51,800
I guess seriously, it's that malaria thing about Dominican reminds

1675
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:55,199
me of like, you know, like the Winner of twenty twenty.

1676
01:35:55,319 --> 01:35:56,880
Have you ever been to China? Have you been to

1677
01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:02,680
China lately? If yes, then you can't go on the cruise? Yea, yeah, guys,

1678
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:05,720
we're going to contain the coronavirus. Yeah, okay, ok right right,

1679
01:36:07,039 --> 01:36:09,960
Steve the good old days, Steve back in the spot,

1680
01:36:10,079 --> 01:36:14,600
he says, and also Buffalo Bill Shows qualifies the Westerns.

1681
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:17,640
Origin also qualifies all Westerns because it inspired one of

1682
01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:21,279
Bischof's failed business ventures and the beer thing you tried.

1683
01:36:22,319 --> 01:36:24,239
You can qualify any Western because of Eric.

1684
01:36:25,079 --> 01:36:26,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, he says.

1685
01:36:26,159 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 2: You could definitely make a case for calamity. Jane is

1686
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:29,600
in real life, she spent a fair bit of her

1687
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:33,199
career working for Buffalo Bill. Hey, there we go, t Jane,

1688
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:36,640
Jason Hangholm, thank you very much for your generous support,

1689
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:39,720
Eric saying to you, Matthew Hardaway, thank you very much

1690
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:42,560
for joining us in a big way on Patreon. We

1691
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:46,680
do deeply appreciate the full throttle support. A reminder, you know,

1692
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:48,600
if Patreon isn't your thing in terms of like a

1693
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:52,479
recurring way to support the cast, you can always drop

1694
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:54,560
a tip in our digital tip jar. Just type the

1695
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:56,880
lapsed famite gmail dot com and your PayPal account and

1696
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:58,680
you can send us just a one off payment. Michael

1697
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:00,800
Hooper did that recently, said you know, hope you both

1698
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:04,279
are well. Coachairs, keep on keeping on and man, that's

1699
01:37:04,279 --> 01:37:05,960
our day. Just to get a little bit of that support.

1700
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:07,720
That way, that's like the new thing. Anyway. I see

1701
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:09,880
all these video streams, it's like people are like donating

1702
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:13,119
in real time. You know, like ching thank you to

1703
01:37:13,119 --> 01:37:15,319
get to get a shout out on the stream and stuff.

1704
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:19,079
So it's no different than that. Zach writes, of course

1705
01:37:19,119 --> 01:37:20,880
Warrior was shady and full of shit, but it always

1706
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:23,199
struck me as so bizarre how Vince Bruce at Hall

1707
01:37:23,359 --> 01:37:25,680
acted like it was this mic drop proof that Warrior

1708
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:28,319
lied about the reason he missed shots because he hated

1709
01:37:28,359 --> 01:37:30,279
his father. Remember the whole thing about how his father

1710
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:32,359
died and he went to the funeral and that's why

1711
01:37:32,359 --> 01:37:35,560
he no showed shows in the ninety six run Yep, yep,

1712
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:37,720
and he couldn't possibly care that he died. Yeah, that

1713
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:39,920
is pretty fucked up. He says, what other employer would

1714
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:42,600
consider how close you said you were to your late

1715
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:45,479
father as a basis to grant bereavement leave?

1716
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:49,399
Speaker 3: Well, I believe in Well, First of all, I need evidence.

1717
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:51,479
Oh you're all broken up about it, hump hell. I mean,

1718
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:53,720
I mean, all of a sudden, you're caring about an

1719
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:55,640
individual that I know for a fact you didn't care about.

1720
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:59,239
Can I have evidence to show that your relationship got better?

1721
01:37:59,279 --> 01:38:02,800
Speaker 2: My business is going to be substantially impaired by this

1722
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:05,439
decision you've made, and I fill on within my rights

1723
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:09,199
to properly diligence the basis on which you're causing that impairment.

1724
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:11,640
Speaker 3: If you know, I mean you're under contract with.

1725
01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:15,359
Speaker 2: Me, which means I can do it contract with your

1726
01:38:15,359 --> 01:38:18,439
father's funeral, right, So yeah, I take that.

1727
01:38:19,239 --> 01:38:22,159
Speaker 3: Where do we Where do we stand now? Are you

1728
01:38:22,199 --> 01:38:24,920
in breach of contract with your father by not attending

1729
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:25,399
his funeral?

1730
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:28,359
Speaker 2: Of course not? Or is that contract with him melon

1731
01:38:28,399 --> 01:38:30,800
void anyway because he's dead. You never cared a shit.

1732
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:33,119
He never cared about you, and you never cared about him.

1733
01:38:33,319 --> 01:38:35,479
So if you need to go there, I need evidence

1734
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:38,520
that you truly had a relationship. I don't need hard,

1735
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:47,439
concrete evidence, whether it's pictures, letters exchanged through the mail, videos,

1736
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:50,920
whatever I need. I need a significant amount of evidence

1737
01:38:51,159 --> 01:38:54,479
to prove that you had a true relationship and that

1738
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:59,760
you are that you are suffering because I Jim will

1739
01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:02,319
not be taken advantage of because I'll tell you what,

1740
01:39:03,039 --> 01:39:07,720
you will not make me suffertly. I lost my dad too.

1741
01:39:09,159 --> 01:39:10,920
You don't see me citing it as a reason to

1742
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:11,760
miss shots.

1743
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 3: In fact, I doubled down on work after he died,

1744
01:39:18,359 --> 01:39:19,920
and I'm gonna double down on your ass.

1745
01:39:22,039 --> 01:39:26,039
Speaker 2: That's how he deals with talent. Tyler aries. Thank you

1746
01:39:26,079 --> 01:39:29,479
so much for your generous pledge. Ray Sanson, thank you

1747
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:33,439
very much for joining us on Patreon. Cliff writes, Okay,

1748
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:35,439
I'm gonna give you this one. This is a first

1749
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:41,479
time emailer, so that's that's always cause for celebration around

1750
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:44,000
these parts. Oh, by the way, now that we just

1751
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:48,760
finished the whole thing, Will Winthrop is the mail bag goat.

1752
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:52,000
Oh I'm gonna say it right now. And I don't

1753
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:54,000
know where we go from here if indeed the BT

1754
01:39:54,119 --> 01:39:59,039
Sports segment is no more, but that's how I'm gonna

1755
01:39:59,039 --> 01:40:02,000
miss it too. So many things trend just transitioning, you know,

1756
01:40:02,079 --> 01:40:04,399
so many things in the before times in the after times.

1757
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:06,239
There's a line in the sand being drawn here at

1758
01:40:06,239 --> 01:40:07,720
the midpoint of twenty twenty five.

1759
01:40:08,399 --> 01:40:08,600
Speaker 3: Yep.

1760
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:11,119
Speaker 2: But yep, the second half of that email lets you

1761
01:40:11,159 --> 01:40:13,239
know that he's still going to very much be in

1762
01:40:13,279 --> 01:40:16,880
contention even if he doesn't have that that resource available

1763
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:17,960
to him. But let's hear from Cliff.

1764
01:40:18,239 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 3: And also, just so you know, so the bleach Blonde

1765
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:23,920
that that one person was angry about is Live Morgan,

1766
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:26,399
Live Morgan. Okay, Sorry, I stand I stand by that.

1767
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:27,680
That's right.

1768
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 2: On brand for you.

1769
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:34,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, yep. Greetings co chairs and fellow connoisseurs of

1770
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:40,079
consensual combats, right, consensual comp that's you listen to what

1771
01:40:40,119 --> 01:40:43,159
it is. I wonder if they have I'm sure they

1772
01:40:43,159 --> 01:40:44,680
don't because they don't have a union and they don't

1773
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:49,279
have anyone, you know. But I was like intimacy coordinators,

1774
01:40:49,399 --> 01:40:52,720
like most like films have to have nowadays, you know,

1775
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:55,720
in regards to given that it is a very much uh,

1776
01:40:56,039 --> 01:41:01,880
you know, physical contact form of entertainment, you know. First

1777
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:06,960
time emailer, longtime e listener like that. I wanted to

1778
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:08,760
send you both an email for a long time, but

1779
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:13,840
I wanted to make my first message cats spirit. I

1780
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:17,079
think now is the right time to reach out. I

1781
01:41:17,079 --> 01:41:19,640
came across your podcast in March of twenty twenty one

1782
01:41:20,119 --> 01:41:24,399
on a Twitter thread recommending new wrestling podcast mentioned TLF

1783
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:27,840
and said it was worth a listen. Like for many,

1784
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:31,079
the runtime was daunting at first, but that spring wasn't

1785
01:41:31,079 --> 01:41:34,479
easy for me. My grandmother and I basically had to

1786
01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:36,239
move out of our house for a week while it

1787
01:41:36,319 --> 01:41:37,960
was being bug bombed.

1788
01:41:38,239 --> 01:41:39,560
Speaker 2: That's the worst.

1789
01:41:40,159 --> 01:41:42,079
Speaker 3: It was not a fun time. I crashed in my

1790
01:41:42,079 --> 01:41:44,359
mother's living room for a week on an air mattress

1791
01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:52,000
and started that started deflating after four days. Yeah, that's

1792
01:41:52,039 --> 01:41:53,840
the worst feeling when when you're when you're sleeping on

1793
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:55,119
an air mattress and all of a sudden, you can

1794
01:41:55,199 --> 01:41:57,920
you know that it's like wait a minute, like you

1795
01:41:58,039 --> 01:42:00,439
like you're laying on your stomach. You're laying your stomach,

1796
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:02,199
but you're like sinking in the middle, and so you're

1797
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:05,960
you know, to feel the hard ground. Yeah, yeah, that's

1798
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:06,399
not good.

1799
01:42:09,199 --> 01:42:09,640
Speaker 2: Uh.

1800
01:42:10,199 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 3: And found comfort in the release of a video game

1801
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:15,239
I've been looking forward to for well over a year

1802
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:19,039
and this new college podcast I was quote trying out

1803
01:42:19,079 --> 01:42:23,720
that effortlessly distracted me for hours on end. Fast forward

1804
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:26,640
four years, and I don't know when the quote trying

1805
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:30,960
out period ended and the quote never stopping unquote period started.

1806
01:42:31,239 --> 01:42:35,640
But I guess that's all. That's how all addictions work. Right.

1807
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:38,920
To say your pod became something of an obsession to

1808
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:41,680
me would be an understatement. I created a spreadsheet to

1809
01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:46,000
catalog every show you did and their run times, were

1810
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:49,479
they a Hopper winner, what journey they were a part of,

1811
01:42:50,199 --> 01:42:53,680
and if I've listened to it or not. It's a

1812
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:56,960
work in progress. I create playlists in Spotify to keep

1813
01:42:57,000 --> 01:43:00,840
track of episodes and journeys. Does it matter to anyone

1814
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:03,359
else that both parts of In Your House eight Beware

1815
01:43:03,399 --> 01:43:07,079
of Dog was six hours and fifty seven minutes total. Wow,

1816
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:11,920
both parts the same time? That's crazy? No, But do

1817
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:14,439
I love knowing that every show from nineteen ninety seven

1818
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:18,479
clocks in at almost one hundred eleven hours. The Stark

1819
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:20,920
Memorial Tour is eleven minutes shy of one hundred and

1820
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:24,640
twenty hours long at your magnum opus. The journey I've

1821
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:27,880
dove into three times, the lamentable tragedy of World Class

1822
01:43:28,039 --> 01:43:32,880
is eighty eight hours thirty six minutes long. I can't believe, actually,

1823
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:39,640
that the WCCW World Class is less than Starcade. I

1824
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:42,720
would have thought because that was just such a long,

1825
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:48,640
a long period of time. But yes, it gets my

1826
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:53,359
fucking dick hard knowing you've spent hundreds and hundreds, no

1827
01:43:53,520 --> 01:44:00,000
thousands of minutes buried deep inside me. Yes, staying there

1828
01:44:00,159 --> 01:44:03,479
until your are finished and holding on just a little

1829
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:08,840
bit longer because you aren't finished yet, that's the right way.

1830
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:16,520
That's it. That's it. We stay until we're finished, but

1831
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:19,159
we hold on a little bit longer because we're not finished.

1832
01:44:19,199 --> 01:44:20,840
Speaker 2: Wow, Holy shit.

1833
01:44:23,319 --> 01:44:25,159
Speaker 3: I say all of this only to bring the mood

1834
01:44:25,159 --> 01:44:27,239
of the email crashing back down to earth for a moment.

1835
01:44:27,279 --> 01:44:30,279
I've struggled with an addiction for probably ten years now,

1836
01:44:30,319 --> 01:44:34,039
not realizing my seemingly vice was a crippling addiction until

1837
01:44:34,079 --> 01:44:36,880
I was making up excuses that after moving in with

1838
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:39,880
my fiance to hide away from her at night to

1839
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:42,760
indulge or would waste hours of my day when I

1840
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:45,920
was home alone buried in my addiction, knowing full well

1841
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:48,439
I would come out of the other side regretting every

1842
01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:52,159
second I just wasted beating myself up for the rest

1843
01:44:52,239 --> 01:44:55,479
of the day. Couple that with a recent diagnosis of

1844
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:59,439
depression and a history of generalized anxiety, twenty twenty five

1845
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:01,720
has been a to find dog shit year for me.

1846
01:45:03,159 --> 01:45:05,039
I've been off work since April as a result, and

1847
01:45:05,079 --> 01:45:08,039
I'm trying to find a new direction in life. Thankfully,

1848
01:45:08,119 --> 01:45:11,119
my fiance is incredibly supportive and has given me more

1849
01:45:11,159 --> 01:45:14,800
grace and understanding than I deserve. If she only, if

1850
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:17,279
only she knew how badly I was cheating on her.

1851
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:19,920
With the two of you, every spare minute I have

1852
01:45:21,079 --> 01:45:24,079
holding you both deep inside while I do menial chores

1853
01:45:24,119 --> 01:45:26,880
around the house or cooking our meals and making the

1854
01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:32,279
most boring tasks doable. Maybe she'd rethink her engagement. Maybe

1855
01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:35,199
she will when I get her a lapsed wife shirt.

1856
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:37,319
Once we finally tie the knob couple.

1857
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:38,600
Speaker 2: They're out there.

1858
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:43,720
Speaker 3: This's happened. It's great, and I love that. I started

1859
01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:45,920
a blog a year ago and I've been having the

1860
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,039
time of my life writing about wrestling from all over

1861
01:45:48,079 --> 01:45:50,600
the world. I've linked it at the bottom of the

1862
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:52,800
of this email if you care to check it out

1863
01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:56,079
or shot me out. I can't stand reading pages that

1864
01:45:56,159 --> 01:45:59,520
only cover the current product and give bland boring play

1865
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:01,960
by play write ups of what happened in the week.

1866
01:46:02,319 --> 01:46:05,479
Just recently, I covered a match from Deadlock Pro Wrestling

1867
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:09,319
in twenty twenty four and an NWA Los Angeles match

1868
01:46:09,319 --> 01:46:12,880
from nineteen fifty one in the same post. I watch

1869
01:46:13,039 --> 01:46:16,720
and review everything and anything. I'm not picky. It keeps

1870
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:19,279
me busy during the week and lets me explore this hokey,

1871
01:46:19,359 --> 01:46:26,880
insane world of body slam ballet for brainless buffs, Body

1872
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:32,800
slam ballet for brainless Buffs. I've even started collecting in

1873
01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:36,319
old wrestling magazines and VHS tapes and digitizing them. In

1874
01:46:36,319 --> 01:46:39,479
my spare time, I'm working on my own coliseum collection

1875
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:44,079
with THEWW network or with the WW networked out now

1876
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:47,680
dead and buried for US Canadians. It's become my passion

1877
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:49,960
and I want to explore it further and maybe even

1878
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:52,880
make a couple of bucks off of my writing. Starting

1879
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:55,319
my blog and expanding my wrestling horizons has given me

1880
01:46:55,359 --> 01:46:59,079
the courage to stop watching WWE Cold Turkey. I have

1881
01:46:59,159 --> 01:47:01,600
been fed up with the f for months now, but

1882
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:05,000
kept watching p Le's out of habit and wanting to

1883
01:47:05,079 --> 01:47:07,159
keep up with the product. But the closer I got

1884
01:47:07,159 --> 01:47:10,079
to WrestleMania forty one this year, the harder it got

1885
01:47:10,079 --> 01:47:17,359
to justify watching this slop. If I heard, if I

1886
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:24,479
heard Triple H say, oh come on, where the fuck

1887
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:29,960
is it? What we do? There were God in an

1888
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:33,239
interview one more time, I was going to throw myself

1889
01:47:33,359 --> 01:47:36,880
headfirst into a wall. I did a scorched earth blog

1890
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:39,640
post about WWE and gave it up completely after seeing

1891
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:42,039
a beat Rhodes in one of the worst Mania main

1892
01:47:42,079 --> 01:47:45,079
events I've seen in a long time. But that doesn't

1893
01:47:45,159 --> 01:47:47,439
mean I won't get my fix from my co chairs.

1894
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:50,319
Once an addict, always an addict. I couldn't help myself.

1895
01:47:50,359 --> 01:47:53,000
I love your breakdown of the senior heel turn before Mania.

1896
01:47:53,239 --> 01:47:56,279
You both said everything I was thinking about this turn

1897
01:47:56,319 --> 01:47:58,720
and validated my fears that this was going to be

1898
01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:02,720
a huge stake. So after the Manium made event, I

1899
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:05,560
was out running errands and I felt that itch. I

1900
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:07,760
wonder where they thought of that main event. They couldn't

1901
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:10,920
have been happy with it, I wondered to myself. Almost

1902
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:13,479
an autopilot, I pulled out my phone and loaded up

1903
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:16,000
the Patreon app, the same app I once gave a

1904
01:48:16,079 --> 01:48:18,479
musician a dollar a week to produce music I wasn't

1905
01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:21,000
listening to any more. The app I once gave a

1906
01:48:21,039 --> 01:48:23,399
dollar to a podcast I wasn't listening to any more.

1907
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:26,199
The app I was using to follow people and be

1908
01:48:26,239 --> 01:48:29,560
a freeloading bitch. On the very same app, I am

1909
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:32,039
now giving twenty two dollars a month for something that

1910
01:48:32,119 --> 01:48:34,600
is essential to my day to day life. I considered

1911
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:37,720
backing out A week or two later. I'm unemployed, I thought,

1912
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:40,319
I need to save money everywhere I can. Fuck it,

1913
01:48:40,399 --> 01:48:43,960
I'm canceling out her bullshit subscriptions to keep that ivy

1914
01:48:44,039 --> 01:48:46,920
hooked directly into my veins. The lapse fan is the

1915
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:49,520
fucking truth, and I will happily die on this hill

1916
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:52,920
for my co chairs. I wrap up this email by

1917
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:55,680
saying thank you from the bottom of my heart. Thank you.

1918
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:58,920
TLF has done more for me than some of my family,

1919
01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:01,760
my friends, and any amount of medicine has to help me,

1920
01:49:03,159 --> 01:49:06,560
has to has to help me keep going. Depression and

1921
01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:10,399
addiction can can kick rocks, and I am determined to

1922
01:49:10,479 --> 01:49:13,000
kick both of them and take you two along with me.

1923
01:49:13,319 --> 01:49:17,039
It's not easy, but nothing worth doing ever is. There

1924
01:49:17,079 --> 01:49:19,079
is light at the end of the time that I

1925
01:49:19,279 --> 01:49:21,520
that I still can't see, and I don't care.

1926
01:49:21,359 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 2: How long the road is ahead of me. I have

1927
01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:27,000
all I need to keep me going, buried deep inside

1928
01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:31,680
yours in sports fakery. Cliff, Salute, Salute Cliff.

1929
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:33,319
Speaker 3: Damn right.

1930
01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:36,800
Speaker 2: We'll keep casting. That's all we can do. We'll keep casting,

1931
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:43,920
Daniel writes. Vince explains ww T Saboo, it really makes

1932
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:45,560
me laugh when laps Vince goes off on a one

1933
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:50,159
sided conversation. I thought I would transcribe the one from

1934
01:49:50,159 --> 01:49:52,439
the most recent episode where Vince is explaining to Saboo

1935
01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:54,119
why he needs to do promos and become a real

1936
01:49:54,199 --> 01:49:54,960
WW character.

1937
01:49:55,239 --> 01:49:56,520
Speaker 3: Oh my god, what.

1938
01:49:56,439 --> 01:50:01,840
Speaker 2: If we may do the Great Saboo fly in We

1939
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:09,880
could create a toy with wings, the Flying Saboo. Then

1940
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:12,079
we could have variations on the action figures. We could

1941
01:50:12,079 --> 01:50:21,640
have combat Saboo or Sabu the garbage man. You see,

1942
01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:24,520
the kids can create their own stories. We provide a template.

1943
01:50:26,479 --> 01:50:28,920
The kids can create their own stories. We provide a template.

1944
01:50:30,319 --> 01:50:34,399
It's so funny. Oh my god, Oh my god, that's

1945
01:50:34,439 --> 01:50:35,439
the funniest shit ever.

1946
01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:35,640
Speaker 4: Hear.

1947
01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:41,359
Speaker 2: We provide a template. You see the WWE And I

1948
01:50:41,399 --> 01:50:45,359
don't know if you're aware of this. We're a publicly

1949
01:50:45,399 --> 01:50:49,239
traded media conglomerate and we have offices in Connecticut, New York,

1950
01:50:49,279 --> 01:50:54,760
Los Angeles, Hong Kong, Australia, Toronto, Tokyo, different places. And

1951
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:57,439
we provide a multitude of weekly content that is a

1952
01:50:57,479 --> 01:51:03,800
template for branching off into personal story telling. I couldn't

1953
01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:07,600
finish it. Hold on, and we provide a multitude of

1954
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:10,239
weekly content that is a template for branching off into

1955
01:51:10,239 --> 01:51:13,640
personal storytelling. As we inspire others to create their own stories.

1956
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:20,199
It's not.

1957
01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:26,079
Speaker 3: It's not even about creating, like fucking television shows. It's

1958
01:51:26,119 --> 01:51:30,439
about creating. It's about creating stuff that can then.

1959
01:51:32,279 --> 01:51:39,199
Speaker 2: Inspire kids to do storylines with their action figures. So

1960
01:51:39,199 --> 01:51:42,600
so you have to execute our story in order to

1961
01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:48,920
inspire others to create their source. And in doing so,

1962
01:51:49,199 --> 01:51:52,079
we involve the different aspects of this digital age that

1963
01:51:52,119 --> 01:51:54,239
we live in, dealing with all sorts of verticals and

1964
01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:59,079
return ROI very big on ROI and the Ara.

1965
01:51:59,239 --> 01:51:59,640
Speaker 3: You get it.

1966
01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:00,000
Speaker 2: You get it.

1967
01:52:00,039 --> 01:52:03,000
Speaker 3: You speak my language. You know, Oh my god, you

1968
01:52:03,039 --> 01:52:06,680
know something. You know, it's very funny. It's like it's

1969
01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:10,000
like I I I listen to this, you know, and

1970
01:52:10,039 --> 01:52:13,640
I'm like, oh my god, like like he sounds like Trump,

1971
01:52:14,239 --> 01:52:18,239
he speaks like tru guess. Yeah, you know you love

1972
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:19,479
the Big Family.

1973
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:21,439
Speaker 2: You know. It's like it's it's hilarious. Yeah, that's a

1974
01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:23,039
good point. Yeah, there's a little bit of that going

1975
01:52:23,079 --> 01:52:26,479
on here. You speak my language. And then I piped

1976
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:28,840
in and said, your original ring name, as I understand it,

1977
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:35,039
Pale was Terry s r O. I right, that's what

1978
01:52:35,079 --> 01:52:39,039
it was, Terry s Return on Investment. Okay, you're ready.

1979
01:52:39,039 --> 01:52:41,680
This is this brings it home. And Daniel took the

1980
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:44,399
time to transcribe this That's how you know we hit

1981
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:47,800
something big when someone writes us and just transcribes what

1982
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:51,239
we said. Oh my god, that's right, that's what it was.

1983
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:55,000
Terry s return on investment. I see no problem with

1984
01:52:55,039 --> 01:53:00,920
how we advance. Go forth, create, inspire, tell us story,

1985
01:53:10,199 --> 01:53:13,520
go forth, go forth.

1986
01:53:13,359 --> 01:53:21,880
Speaker 3: Go forth. Oh you know, this is this is the

1987
01:53:22,119 --> 01:53:31,479
this is this is what's I'm I'm, I'm what what

1988
01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:37,840
What makes me laugh about that is that? And and

1989
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:40,279
in a weird way, it makes me angry at myself

1990
01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:46,800
because I could never fucking write that ship. It came

1991
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:47,399
out of my brain.

1992
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:50,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it came out of your lapsed Vince brain.

1993
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:54,079
Speaker 3: Yeah. But I could never sit down and fuck write that.

1994
01:53:54,119 --> 01:53:54,600
Speaker 2: Definitely not.

1995
01:53:55,760 --> 01:54:00,039
Speaker 3: That's why audio fucking rules, man, Oh that's why rules.

1996
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:05,159
That's just fucking hilarious. Andrew, greetings from Zombia. This is

1997
01:54:05,199 --> 01:54:08,159
a first, dearest co Chairman. I write to you from

1998
01:54:08,159 --> 01:54:11,159
the heart of Livingstone, Zombia. I wonder how many lapsed

1999
01:54:11,159 --> 01:54:13,399
fans are here with me. Over the last week I've

2000
01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:15,560
been here for work, my days starting very early and

2001
01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:18,159
going very late when I travel for work, especially being

2002
01:54:18,159 --> 01:54:20,079
so far away from home and my beautiful wife and daughter.

2003
01:54:20,239 --> 01:54:22,399
I have a hard time, very hard time sleeping and

2004
01:54:22,399 --> 01:54:25,439
staying mindful andsane during the stressful time. The show has

2005
01:54:25,479 --> 01:54:27,640
been my salve, a the thing I can look forward

2006
01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:29,199
to when I put my head down at night. Here

2007
01:54:29,239 --> 01:54:31,399
at the hotel, I've been running on three to four

2008
01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:33,319
hours of sleep each day for the last week or so.

2009
01:54:33,640 --> 01:54:35,600
But I'm less stressed about my sleep because I am

2010
01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:37,840
able to put my headphones in and tune out and relax.

2011
01:54:38,159 --> 01:54:40,840
This week, I've caught up on the thirty week Mania journey,

2012
01:54:41,039 --> 01:54:43,439
speaking of which I think thirty one to forty really

2013
01:54:43,479 --> 01:54:44,720
deserved lapsed treatment.

2014
01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:47,960
Speaker 2: I hope you consider it a remarkable follow up. At

2015
01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:50,079
the hotel, I was hanging out in the conference room

2016
01:54:50,119 --> 01:54:53,039
working late still here at almost nine p m. When

2017
01:54:53,039 --> 01:54:54,840
one of the hotel staff came in, a young man

2018
01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:57,279
around the age of nineteen. We started bullshitting, and I

2019
01:54:57,279 --> 01:54:59,159
asked what his favorite TV shows and movies are. He

2020
01:54:59,199 --> 01:55:01,520
then told me, I sh you not bashfully and just

2021
01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:03,520
as full of shame as any one of us should have.

2022
01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:08,119
Do you know wrestling? Actually? Never mind. We immediately bonded

2023
01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:12,119
over our shared public interest pathetic interest rather, Although I

2024
01:55:12,159 --> 01:55:14,279
don't think he knew or cared about anything we.

2025
01:55:14,359 --> 01:55:20,000
Speaker 3: Heard of public interest we have we have a public company.

2026
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:22,119
Speaker 2: In case that was not clear to you.

2027
01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:24,159
Speaker 3: I'm very interested in public interests.

2028
01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:27,479
Speaker 2: We then were bolts of very interested in what the

2029
01:55:27,479 --> 01:55:28,520
public is interested in.

2030
01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:32,760
Speaker 3: Exactly, I'm very I'm very interested in interest.

2031
01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:33,840
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, we're in the fan

2032
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:38,800
service business. We then discussed his love for Randy Orton.

2033
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:40,960
It cannot be underestimated how much global appeal Orton and

2034
01:55:41,039 --> 01:55:44,279
Seena have. It's staggering. No lapsed fans here, but sure enough,

2035
01:55:44,319 --> 01:55:46,479
like I saw most certainly in a few years he

2036
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:50,119
will be. We did it. Great dispatch. That's our first

2037
01:55:50,119 --> 01:55:53,600
from Zambia. Man, that's a new one. That is a

2038
01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:56,720
new one for SUREA writes to us on our Saboo tribute.

2039
01:55:56,760 --> 01:55:58,760
So glad you mentioned Saboo's match with Owen Hart a

2040
01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:01,560
dark match in WWF. I was actually at that show.

2041
01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:04,399
Oh my god. Everyone wants to see video of that

2042
01:56:04,479 --> 01:56:06,600
and see if it exists, and have been meaning to

2043
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:08,840
write about it since Sabu passed. We had no idea

2044
01:56:09,039 --> 01:56:10,720
who Sabu was at that point, but he had a

2045
01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:13,239
full presentation in that match, a someone that was going

2046
01:56:13,279 --> 01:56:15,079
to be a star. Yeah, we watched the Scottie Too

2047
01:56:15,119 --> 01:56:17,279
hoty mon a Night Rod Dark match. They were presenting

2048
01:56:17,359 --> 01:56:19,359
him as so they weren't putting any handcuffs on that guy.

2049
01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:21,640
He was allowed to go out there and be Saboo

2050
01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:25,479
and the people were into it. This one comes from

2051
01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:27,920
the Germans. Name for me is the Little Mang. That's

2052
01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:32,479
his screen name. He writes in the style and fashion

2053
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:36,920
of the ECW Sci Fi era Sabo that we spent

2054
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:39,600
a lot of time getting acquainted with during our Sabu

2055
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:43,600
tribute series. This is his suggestion for what he might

2056
01:56:43,640 --> 01:56:47,680
say during one of those awkward promos. I'm Sabu and

2057
01:56:47,720 --> 01:57:02,439
tonight I'm going to burn down this hotel. There's another

2058
01:57:02,439 --> 01:57:04,760
good one here. I'm trying to find it again. I

2059
01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:06,439
don't want to go out of order, but there's another

2060
01:57:06,439 --> 01:57:08,239
really good one that someone hit us with. Let me

2061
01:57:08,319 --> 01:57:09,920
see if I can find it, because it just didn't

2062
01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:12,159
fit right here. Oh my god, it would fit right here.

2063
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:16,920
Uh oh not the guy who was on the elevator

2064
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:20,600
with Bronson Reid while he was holding Taco bell. This

2065
01:57:20,640 --> 01:57:28,199
one from Zach. I'm Saboo and I approved this message.

2066
01:57:29,239 --> 01:57:34,840
Nick Wright, speaking of Saboo's skin, I was front I

2067
01:57:34,840 --> 01:57:36,239
think I know which of the two of us talked

2068
01:57:36,279 --> 01:57:39,760
about his skin. Oh God, yeah, I was front row

2069
01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:42,279
during an MLW event in Orlando. He wrestled in about

2070
01:57:42,279 --> 01:57:44,600
twenty years ago. Hard to describe it, but its back

2071
01:57:44,720 --> 01:57:48,560
was like a layer of jelly. Oh. I don't know

2072
01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:50,319
if it was built up scar tissue or what, but

2073
01:57:50,439 --> 01:57:53,720
every inch was covered in some kind of scar or pockmark,

2074
01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:57,279
and it looked like a distinct layer from his normal skin.

2075
01:57:59,279 --> 01:58:02,880
It was a jig jelly like, disgusting mess. My friend

2076
01:58:02,960 --> 01:58:04,600
slapped him in the back too hard when he hit

2077
01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:08,159
the guardrail, and Sabo threw a shoot elbow back at him. Tremendous.

2078
01:58:08,319 --> 01:58:14,039
Oh man, Western sab Andrew Wright's boss went where my

2079
01:58:14,119 --> 01:58:16,479
head went. The table will soon be replaced by a

2080
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:22,000
digital table to cut costs and maximize shareholder value. That's right,

2081
01:58:22,399 --> 01:58:26,520
that's right to that. I'm only telling the truth, Rob Wrights,

2082
01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:28,520
You guys joke. But I was actually in an elevator

2083
01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:30,760
once with Bronson Reid when he was holding a taco

2084
01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:33,399
bell order. I just shot a New Japan show in DC.

2085
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We were all back at the hotel and that was

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the only place nearby that was open. Even if there

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were other options. I think he would still I think

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so too, Rob just rack a taco bell. Jeff Cobb

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was also there. I'm sure he didn't have the cob salad. Okay,

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airy forma. Thank you very much for your pledge on Patreon.

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Welcome man Adam Asbourne. We really appreciate your support. Robert

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01:58:54,880 --> 01:58:56,399
wants us to think about l A Night as the

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type of arc type can say that archtypical archetypal black

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t shirt bartender, go refill the lime wedges and flush

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the taps because it's ladies night. Picture him. I can

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picture him doing that kind of job.

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Speaker 3: I really can.

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Speaker 2: The only Night looks like a guy who is working

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in a restaurant in La hoping to get it apart.

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That's what he kind of looks like.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, listen, he's got He has got a fucking

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Manila envelope of headshots and resumes in his car.

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Speaker 2: It just looks like one of those guys. I don't

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01:59:33,479 --> 01:59:35,840
know why he does he does. He does. He does

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01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:38,319
look like one of those guys. There's no question, can

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01:59:38,359 --> 01:59:40,239
you say one, which is probably why it pisses me

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01:59:40,279 --> 01:59:42,560
off off sometimes by looking at him, you know as

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01:59:42,600 --> 01:59:45,039
much as I enjoy the guy, you know, there are

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elements that pissed me off about you. Tell me, Like

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01:59:47,159 --> 01:59:49,640
one feature that he has that says that to you.

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Speaker 3: His hair, his hair, and it's like his his his

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like his high forehead, like I just take is working

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02:00:00,760 --> 02:00:04,000
the fucking at a bar or a restaurant, Like I

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02:00:04,039 --> 02:00:08,439
can see him fucking waiting tables, rushing back and forth.

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02:00:08,760 --> 02:00:10,560
Speaker 2: Behind the bar. Is just like with a white towel

2116
02:00:10,680 --> 02:00:12,680
like dry in the inside of a glass, you know,

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a cocktail glass.

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Speaker 3: No question. The beard that like his his whole face

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is just is just bartender trying to be an actor.

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Speaker 2: He's like he's he's like literally like posing in the

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catalog for the Martini glasses. You know, yeah, yes, yes,

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02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:30,840
our Ronaldi writes Sabu was a proud man who wouldn't

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02:00:30,840 --> 02:00:33,399
compromise because he felt he was respecting a family tradition

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and ended up regretting not compromising because morals left him

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with no money and drugs. Sometimes in solar system has

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a way of summon it up man, and our SA

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02:00:43,239 --> 02:00:47,159
tribute was certainly no exception. Andrew writes, the biggest lie

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02:00:47,199 --> 02:00:50,720
we as wrestling fans tell ourselves is that the non extreme, safer, smarter,

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02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:54,119
pro wrestlers have better health outcomes. It's a lie and

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02:00:54,159 --> 02:00:58,119
we believe it, Yes, Carlo Stallion, pain and shame. Does

2131
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the disease best express itself when we demand they die

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02:01:00,840 --> 02:01:03,960
for our entertainment? Or when these brave men literally crawl

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through barb wire for their opportunity to die for our entertainment.

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Josh writes both the guy and the gimmick in the

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Ring with Rob Zikowski in ninety one, with the exact

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same guy and gimmick diving into barb wire in twenty

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twenty five. I'll never be a fan of the guy,

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but there's something remarkable about Sabu being stubbornly and unapologetically

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Saboo for over three decades. No matter which regime he

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was under, Vince couldn't even change him. William writes, Boss

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even mentioned it at one some point, But Sabu ended

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up as Randy the Ram. He didn't have anything left.

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His partner was gone, the paydays were gone, his health

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was gone. I don't know if he wanted to die

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that night, but I don't think he would have minded

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that much. The bloat makes me think of congestive heart failure.

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Which can lead to clots. I don't know. I'm left

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feeling so empty and shameful as a fan that we

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pushed these guys to do these things. He also says,

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Abyss absolutely tosses salad, tune a salad, salad, sam salad, seafood, salad,

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basically anything that is primarily mayonnaise chilled and sir, yes,

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oh my god, earn a bowl.

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Speaker 3: That's what your sling. Okay, that's what's all about. That's

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02:02:06,159 --> 02:02:06,760
what your slang.

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Speaker 2: Paully dangerously comes from. Johnny dangerously, not the year of

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02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:13,520
living dangerously. That's uh pointed out by Greg. We were

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02:02:13,560 --> 02:02:16,439
wondering where that comes from. One day. We'll get to

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02:02:16,439 --> 02:02:18,800
the bottom of it. Can we put Johnny Dangerously under

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the cinemat for any reason, um the nineteen eighty four film.

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Can we say that that's Paul Hammerson's character and just

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go with it. No. I don't know if he's ever

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admitted that or not. That's the problem. No, But if

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you took the if you took the name from that,

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I would I would I would qualify that. Joseph nubauerd

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thank you very much for the pledge. We appreciate it.

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Same to you, Robert Fenton. Welcome to the executive producer.

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To your colin, ask for killing it's a prit k

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fabe last name, Thanks very much. Brie writes, the Rick

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Rude in a cage thing kind of happened. We were

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wondering when going through Sabu's career. There was this listening

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02:02:50,439 --> 02:02:52,680
of an ECW match Rick Rud was wrestling in a cage,

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and I just thought that was a mistake, because if

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Rick Rude had a match in ECW, I would remember,

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and it was technically a match. He was in there,

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02:02:58,760 --> 02:03:02,239
as I remarked on X, dressed like the cameraman at

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02:03:02,279 --> 02:03:05,279
a local TV station, and he had jeans and a

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02:03:05,319 --> 02:03:09,039
sweatshirt tucked in with sneakers, and he just, Okay, if

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that's a match, it's just as much a match as

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Hulkogan's last match that we just talked about in the UK.

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Speaker 3: But I guess you're right.

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Speaker 2: I guess I now know where that comes from, the match,

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he writes with Sabo Arvidivus, Dreamer, Sandman and Rude turned

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02:03:19,359 --> 02:03:22,119
on Dreamer and Sandman during the match. So we like

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to tie up loose ends on these feedback episodes if

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we can based on the episodes I've come before, so

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consider that one done. Wiretap eight oh four. Thanks for

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02:03:29,640 --> 02:03:32,319
the cake, my friend Ross Mueller. We appreciate your support

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02:03:32,399 --> 02:03:35,279
as well. Tim writs is someone who actually fixes broken jaws.

2189
02:03:35,439 --> 02:03:37,920
The whole section from Saboo's book about the jaw fracture

2190
02:03:38,039 --> 02:03:40,920
is the most horrifying thing I have ever heard. Absolutely

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02:03:41,439 --> 02:03:43,960
not shocked in the least that he refractured it. Yes,

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we must not only consider the fractures of Saboo, boss,

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but the refractures terable toys. We know he means business,

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02:03:50,159 --> 02:03:52,119
and he's putting that cake on the table, and we appreciate.

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02:03:52,159 --> 02:03:56,359
Oh yeah, we talked about Taz going to youth sports

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02:03:56,399 --> 02:04:00,479
in Jersey with a vest on and criticizing thes and

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the referees, and Gino, who's from the area, who I

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02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:05,920
think we're going to see in New York, actually says

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I've witnessed grown men yelling at a high school kid

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ref because they weren't calling traveling in kindergarten age basketball. Taz,

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this conversation about youth sports is exactly my weekend conversation

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with my Jersey accent to Boot. We love it so

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02:04:20,520 --> 02:04:23,720
much that we're on point like that. Bob Ross, thanks

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02:04:23,720 --> 02:04:25,880
for the increase in pledge, my friend, we see you.

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Mike Wright. Shane Douglas was in WCW by summer ninety nine. Yes,

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we did get this twisted. We forgot. I forgot. I

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thought he came in when Russo and Bischoff combined in

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two thousand, but he was already in the company because

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he had did all the revolution Stable stuff with Ben

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Juan Malinko and all that in ninety nine as well,

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and he was rumored to go over with them in

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two thousand. Him and Conan were part of the group

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that was said to be looking for their release to

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go with the radicals. So thanks for that reminder there,

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Robbie O'Sullivan, thank you very much for your pledge. Welcome

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02:04:56,479 --> 02:04:58,920
to the executive producer teer Anonymous, whoever you may be.

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Thanks for the cake. Marty f Thank you very much

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for the support in Clifford Rickabaugh, Thank you very much

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02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:07,680
for your increase. Wayne Tyner. We appreciate the love and

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want to thank you very much. Boss Carl's writing in

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from Cape Town. We're going in a nationalis one damn

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right A Nambia, Namibia, whatever, infinitia Afghanistan. It's all here,

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this is from Cape Town. All right, here we go,

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dear coach chairs.

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Speaker 3: I was delighted to see you tackle the history and

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02:05:28,439 --> 02:05:31,359
legacy of Sabu and thought it was the perfect time

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to share my Sabu story as a wrestling fan in

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South Africa. Yes, as you understand wrestling. Watching wrestling at

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a precocious age is an addiction, a necessity. I gobbled

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up whatever I could find, even though it was only WWE.

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We had no WCW or ECW, and WWE pay per

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views aired seemingly at random. Shout out to my mom

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for taping the ninety seven Royal Rumble at six am midweek.

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We didn't get the after mags. My only source of

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information was WWE produced magazines, which arrived here several months

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after publishing Stateside. I was essentially blind. I recall Brett

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Hart just vanishing off TV. Same with Diesel and Razor.

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We I had no closure. I took what I could

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get and was grateful. ECW was a forbidden fruit that

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only existed in my imagination. In the early two thousands,

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I got regular access to the Internet, finally, a means

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to find the real hardcore wrestling with stuff that was

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too hot for our televisions. I recall vividly coming across

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02:06:36,960 --> 02:06:41,279
an article describing the Born to Be Wired match, no video,

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only black and white photos. I was astonished. TLC at

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WRESTLINGA seventeen was my favorite match at that time, and

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this was a different and this was a different level.

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Who is sap Woo? How can you tip up a

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bicep and completely and complete a match?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: What the fuck is going on? I had so many

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questions with little means to answer them. I discovered file

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sharing and I needed extreme grappling. I can say with

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my hand on my heart, I spent more time looking

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for anything of Saboo than I did pornography. The point

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to the heavens, the mystique, the scars, by God, the scars.

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Who is this person? I still think he's one of

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the coolest wrestlers I've ever seen. His entire presentation was perfect.

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Fast forward to One Nightstand two thousand and five. I

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was eighteen and mesmerized with my first proper experience with ECW.

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I don't know about proper. Yeah, I know it's but

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it's the closest he got though. Yeah, it was actually

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a pretty faithful recreation of it. All the crowd, the

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Hayman promo, the violence. It was like discovering a new color.

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I'd never seen anything like it, and it was the

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first time I'd ever seen Sabu in motion. To this day,

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his quote style still tuxes me. The way he moved,

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the recklessness, the relentlessness. He had this single minded determination

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to hurt his opponent with his own body. Either you

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crumble to the mat or he does, and he is

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seemingly fine with either outcome. Homicidal, suicidal, genocidal perfectly captured

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his look and approach to wrestling. Even now, as I

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try to logically figure out what about Sabou captured my

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imagination so completely, I realize that it's much simpler than

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work rate or table spots or a cool entrance. I

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believe Sabo. I believed Sabo was real, real in the

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same way James Gandalfini and The Sopranos was real. This

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character only exists in this world on my television, and

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they are holy and completely committed to their world in

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a way that makes only sense to them. I cannot

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meet Sabu at a grocery store or on the train.

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He doesn't exist in my world as a person. He

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doesn't feel like I do, or hurt like I do,

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or have any of the same needs. He is Saboo,

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and he has committed to his interpretation of professional wrestling

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at the expense of everything and how he expresses himself

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in a match, even if it kills him in the

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wrestling industry. As the wrestling industry becomes more meta, wow,

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merta wow, isn't that the truth? Brother?

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Speaker 2: Brother?

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Speaker 3: Brother? Self referential and filled with shoot interviews and quote,

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here was what really happened. I yearned to allow myself

2293
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to simply believe in the grappling without feeling like a

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fucking idiot. Yep, Sabu was one of the very few

2295
02:09:47,359 --> 02:09:50,439
wrestlers where that was possible. Perhaps Terry Bronk was a

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02:09:50,479 --> 02:09:53,840
casualty of this. Perhaps Terry Bronk should have never, never,

2297
02:09:54,119 --> 02:09:57,000
should never have committed to his journey of self destruction.

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But he did, and the least I can do to

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honor it is be grateful for his commitment to his art.

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His art is sometimes revolting, but it's distinct. His performance

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at One night Stand in two thousand and five is

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very average. But I eventually got to heat Wave ninety

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eight in his tag with RVD against Gensation, Saki and Hyabusa.

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Sure whatever, Yeah, that's what I was former Hakushi Hayabusa

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and yeah shin Shinzaki. That was the first time where

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the character who captured my imagination from a young age

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and the person. That was the time where the character

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who captured my imagination from a young age and the

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person I'm watching on my television met on equal terms.

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Thanks for reading, Carl from Cape Town.

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Speaker 2: It's stuff, man, that's a good email. That's kind of

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one I wish we tucked into the tribute itself. But yeah,

2313
02:10:51,000 --> 02:10:53,560
we always say if you love a show, listen to

2314
02:10:53,560 --> 02:10:56,319
the mailbag after it or a feedback segment after it,

2315
02:10:56,359 --> 02:10:58,880
because there's a lot of wonderful follow on from the

2316
02:10:58,880 --> 02:11:01,600
Solar System, a lot of important clarifications of things we

2317
02:11:01,600 --> 02:11:04,439
may have gotten wrong or not exactly right, and it

2318
02:11:04,520 --> 02:11:09,039
just keeps going, it just keeps evolving. Thank you, Nick Russ,

2319
02:11:09,079 --> 02:11:11,119
Thank you very much for your pledge, and welcome to

2320
02:11:11,119 --> 02:11:13,479
the executive producer t Here Joe writes to us from

2321
02:11:13,520 --> 02:11:16,439
suburban Chicago. So listening to the memorial tour for the

2322
02:11:16,479 --> 02:11:19,079
second time can confirm that as of May twenty nine,

2323
02:11:19,159 --> 02:11:22,079
twenty twenty five, at three thirty Central Standard time, Nikita

2324
02:11:22,159 --> 02:11:25,760
Kuloff's wang is still visible on Peacock version of Blade Kate.

2325
02:11:26,199 --> 02:11:28,520
You might recall his dick comes out of his pants.

2326
02:11:28,720 --> 02:11:31,359
They put the cock in Peacock's right ten years after

2327
02:11:31,439 --> 02:11:34,000
JP first made mention, twenty four years after the table

2328
02:11:34,039 --> 02:11:36,640
Library was purchased, in thirty nine years after original airing.

2329
02:11:36,800 --> 02:11:40,439
How is that possible? Well, there it is, Boss.

2330
02:11:40,399 --> 02:11:44,079
Speaker 3: Oh, I like I enjoy having a little uh Easter

2331
02:11:44,159 --> 02:11:49,920
egg out there for people to enjoy and indulge in

2332
02:11:49,920 --> 02:11:53,199
indulge in another man's genitalia.

2333
02:11:53,840 --> 02:11:56,840
Speaker 2: I'm going to share this link with you later. Don't forget,

2334
02:11:58,000 --> 02:12:01,119
but the homie Pedro and Lisbon wants us to know

2335
02:12:01,840 --> 02:12:04,159
his first time writing to us, big fan from Portugal

2336
02:12:04,760 --> 02:12:10,039
of a cultaholic article. Okay, he found this and immediately

2337
02:12:10,039 --> 02:12:12,319
thought we should know about this if we don't know

2338
02:12:12,359 --> 02:12:16,319
about it already. It's a wrestler who had gone missing,

2339
02:12:16,399 --> 02:12:19,479
whose human marine remains were found very recently.

2340
02:12:20,640 --> 02:12:23,640
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I I I've saved that article.

2341
02:12:23,680 --> 02:12:25,640
Speaker 2: He was an actor and wasn't Twilight of the Gods

2342
02:12:25,640 --> 02:12:31,800
starring rock Huts qualify Boss Yeah, qualify, boss, absolutely, and

2343
02:12:31,960 --> 02:12:34,520
I've I actually already did that kind of a brief

2344
02:12:34,640 --> 02:12:35,920
little true crime around here.

2345
02:12:36,000 --> 02:12:37,600
Speaker 3: Kim. Oh yeah, we love that.

2346
02:12:38,960 --> 02:12:42,279
Speaker 2: God, thank God for under the Cinema. We love that ship.

2347
02:12:42,520 --> 02:12:44,920
Everything's fair game. Oh, Matthew KEI.

2348
02:12:45,159 --> 02:12:46,640
Speaker 3: A whole fucking.

2349
02:12:48,199 --> 02:12:48,239
Speaker 1: That.

2350
02:12:48,760 --> 02:12:51,760
Speaker 3: See that that again that it's these it's these guys

2351
02:12:51,760 --> 02:12:55,760
who I find the most fascinating, These people who had

2352
02:12:55,800 --> 02:12:59,520
these careers and and this guy being fucking buried and

2353
02:12:59,760 --> 02:13:03,239
just that ah, tremendous.

2354
02:13:04,439 --> 02:13:06,800
Speaker 2: Having just like this fleeting connection to wrestling makes it

2355
02:13:06,840 --> 02:13:07,800
even more intriguing.

2356
02:13:07,960 --> 02:13:09,000
Speaker 3: Yep, exactly.

2357
02:13:10,319 --> 02:13:12,239
Speaker 2: There was a speaking of Rock Hudson. He kind of

2358
02:13:12,319 --> 02:13:16,119
qualifies for a few reasons, one of which is the

2359
02:13:16,560 --> 02:13:20,000
next TA character by the name of Death we Live

2360
02:13:20,079 --> 02:13:26,399
is Duke Hudson, right next T I think, so let's see, Yeah,

2361
02:13:27,079 --> 02:13:31,319
he's definitely a Rock Hudson kind of inspirationally inspired character. Yeah, okay,

2362
02:13:31,319 --> 02:13:33,840
I've always thought that's where his name came from. Uh,

2363
02:13:33,880 --> 02:13:36,600
And they combined it with the Duke James Dean, right,

2364
02:13:36,880 --> 02:13:42,279
they call John Wayne John Wayne. Sorry. Yeah, Bethew Key,

2365
02:13:42,279 --> 02:13:44,840
thank you very much for increasing your pledge. We appreciate it.

2366
02:13:44,920 --> 02:13:47,319
Christopher zell Er, thank you. For the cake. We uh,

2367
02:13:47,920 --> 02:13:50,439
we're gonna put that to good use. Adam from Jersey City, dear,

2368
02:13:50,479 --> 02:13:52,760
co chairman of the number one college podcast in the

2369
02:13:52,800 --> 02:13:55,159
Solar System. I'm going back to the journeys who've authored

2370
02:13:55,199 --> 02:13:57,479
over the years hashtag shelf life and found a true

2371
02:13:57,520 --> 02:14:00,560
magic eight ball fuck skull moment on the memorial. At

2372
02:14:00,560 --> 02:14:02,439
three fifty four to fifty four of the star K

2373
02:14:02,520 --> 02:14:05,439
eighty nine Deep Dive, Jack and JP are talking about

2374
02:14:05,560 --> 02:14:09,359
crooked referee numb Nick dumfuck Patrick and compare his blown

2375
02:14:09,399 --> 02:14:12,600
call to a scene from Naked Gun. Boss then proceeds

2376
02:14:12,640 --> 02:14:16,079
to say, we want to see a new Naked Gun

2377
02:14:16,159 --> 02:14:21,399
starring Liam Neeson. Last four nine years and there's going

2378
02:14:21,439 --> 02:14:24,119
to be a new Naked Gun with Cody Roads in it.

2379
02:14:24,159 --> 02:14:27,800
No less right? Is it? Believe he's in it? Yes? Wow,

2380
02:14:27,920 --> 02:14:31,159
that's funny starring Liam Neeson. Holy shit, Boss, you did

2381
02:14:31,159 --> 02:14:34,279
it again, he writes, coming out this Friday. That's right,

2382
02:14:34,359 --> 02:14:36,800
Yet were not? How funny that we read this email

2383
02:14:36,880 --> 02:14:39,880
on the precipice. Yep, it even qualifies for under the

2384
02:14:39,880 --> 02:14:43,000
cinemat since it features Cody Rhads. He writes. Anyway, I'm

2385
02:14:43,039 --> 02:14:45,119
a long time LABS fan, have been following Jack since

2386
02:14:45,119 --> 02:14:48,079
the shirt dog days remembered Haam TJ and Luffey, the

2387
02:14:48,079 --> 02:14:50,800
triangle choke of MMA Radio. Even remember the origin of

2388
02:14:50,800 --> 02:14:53,520
Brandon from New Jersey? Hey, Jack, do you remember Sean mccorky, Oh,

2389
02:14:53,560 --> 02:14:58,720
I do? I remember that crazy word Smith from Indiana.

2390
02:15:00,239 --> 02:15:03,119
Hilarious and one of the funniest fighters ever. Thank you

2391
02:15:03,239 --> 02:15:05,880
for the years upon years of entertainment. Well, thank you, Adam.

2392
02:15:05,960 --> 02:15:08,880
Great to hear from you. Well, anyone with a name McCorkle. Oh, yeah,

2393
02:15:09,039 --> 02:15:12,199
that's great. Still automatic right there, Joe's still on these

2394
02:15:12,199 --> 02:15:14,680
old ones. Yeah, he writes, you've infiltrated my life. Morning

2395
02:15:14,680 --> 02:15:16,399
till night. I had to take the five to fifty

2396
02:15:16,439 --> 02:15:20,239
am train for world famous Schomberg through suburban Chicago, Rosemont,

2397
02:15:20,319 --> 02:15:22,399
and finally arriving in the city. I'm fairly certain Jim

2398
02:15:22,439 --> 02:15:26,079
Barnett developed all his classy habits in downtown Chicago. Listening

2399
02:15:26,119 --> 02:15:29,039
to the star K e eighty five cast for the

2400
02:15:29,079 --> 02:15:31,600
fourth time, as I was crossing the river on Madison Street,

2401
02:15:31,640 --> 02:15:33,640
the street made famous by the United Center because of

2402
02:15:33,680 --> 02:15:36,479
Brett Nowen in a cage and maybe some basketball player

2403
02:15:36,520 --> 02:15:39,039
from Flair Country, I came to a random comment regarding

2404
02:15:39,039 --> 02:15:40,960
a weird Jake Roberts he caught on bray Wyatt in

2405
02:15:40,960 --> 02:15:44,600
twenty fifteen something about a condom and a sleep apney mask. Anyways,

2406
02:15:44,800 --> 02:15:47,359
not the story. After JP moves on from the bizarre

2407
02:15:47,399 --> 02:15:50,159
moment from the dark poet Laureate from Stone Mountain, I

2408
02:15:50,199 --> 02:15:52,479
simply parsed my lips as if my mouth was dry,

2409
02:15:52,560 --> 02:15:55,119
about to start a promo as an unconscious nod to

2410
02:15:55,199 --> 02:16:00,239
Jake's teeth. Thanks JP for the amazing discovery. Well come

2411
02:16:00,239 --> 02:16:02,479
to you for your quick Chicago wrestling primer that you

2412
02:16:02,479 --> 02:16:05,680
didn't ask for. Thank you for giving me what I need. Yeah,

2413
02:16:05,720 --> 02:16:09,319
not a problem. Joe Martin, great supporter out there. I

2414
02:16:09,319 --> 02:16:11,880
believe in Scotland. He says he loves anytime the co

2415
02:16:12,000 --> 02:16:14,760
chairs talk about Shit's Creek and Catherine O'Hara in general.

2416
02:16:18,319 --> 02:16:21,680
And uh, he wants he wants every Johnson a live call,

2417
02:16:21,880 --> 02:16:24,439
every Johnson imagine to a retirement on live call. And

2418
02:16:24,479 --> 02:16:26,800
we're doing it. I mean, I don't think we're gonna

2419
02:16:26,800 --> 02:16:27,439
miss one of them.

2420
02:16:27,560 --> 02:16:28,560
Speaker 3: Yeah no, I don't think so.

2421
02:16:29,279 --> 02:16:31,079
Speaker 2: William Wrights. I think they should have Otis be the

2422
02:16:31,119 --> 02:16:34,559
spokesperson for Dude Wipes. Just some fat sweaty, hairy guy

2423
02:16:34,600 --> 02:16:37,719
who you'd know has poor anal hygiene.

2424
02:16:37,239 --> 02:16:40,520
Speaker 3: May it like close ups of the of the hairs

2425
02:16:40,520 --> 02:16:42,959
in his ass that are caught all all the ship

2426
02:16:43,159 --> 02:16:47,440
and like all sorts of dirt and just vile things

2427
02:16:47,520 --> 02:16:51,639
like the worst, the worst substances on the planet are

2428
02:16:51,719 --> 02:16:54,200
just caked on the hairs in his ass.

2429
02:16:55,399 --> 02:17:02,959
Speaker 2: They look they look all matted down even in his underwear. Horrible,

2430
02:17:03,479 --> 02:17:06,520
just like you know, like layers of stuff oh on

2431
02:17:07,120 --> 02:17:12,079
those fucking asshairs. Doctor Templar from New Zealand, Uh, we're

2432
02:17:12,159 --> 02:17:16,120
sticking with international dear co chairs. He provides a helpful

2433
02:17:16,159 --> 02:17:18,719
summary with three bullet points. One thanks for everything you do.

2434
02:17:18,760 --> 02:17:20,639
It makes my life better too. Thank you to the

2435
02:17:20,639 --> 02:17:23,079
Mote tier members. We the three sixteen tiers salute your

2436
02:17:23,120 --> 02:17:28,520
magnificent contributions. That's the spirit, that's the spirit. Don't hate, appreciate,

2437
02:17:29,159 --> 02:17:31,799
Realize that while it might not make sense for you

2438
02:17:31,879 --> 02:17:35,079
to pledge in that denomination, that you're eternally grateful that

2439
02:17:35,159 --> 02:17:37,879
others do because it provides us the fuel we need

2440
02:17:37,920 --> 02:17:39,879
to keep producing. And even if you don't get to

2441
02:17:39,920 --> 02:17:43,680
access at all, be grateful that something keeps making us

2442
02:17:43,760 --> 02:17:46,239
want to do this because when we stop wanting to

2443
02:17:46,239 --> 02:17:49,639
do this, you are left in the wilderness. My friend,

2444
02:17:51,079 --> 02:17:53,399
I don't know what to tell you, because the cast

2445
02:17:53,479 --> 02:17:57,120
is a powerful force, and it's a virtuous cycle and

2446
02:17:58,159 --> 02:18:01,040
the only reason we have subjected our ourselves to the

2447
02:18:01,079 --> 02:18:04,959
aforementioned sleep deprivation and other sacrifices it takes to do

2448
02:18:05,000 --> 02:18:06,840
the show like we do it. It's because we know

2449
02:18:07,360 --> 02:18:09,520
that you're going to put money on the table to

2450
02:18:09,600 --> 02:18:12,280
say that it's worth it. That's proof. That's proof of

2451
02:18:12,319 --> 02:18:15,479
any society. Two, thank you to the mote your members.

2452
02:18:15,520 --> 02:18:17,479
Three if you were free loading, step up. It brings

2453
02:18:17,479 --> 02:18:19,399
a sense of self worth that feels good every week.

2454
02:18:19,479 --> 02:18:22,399
My man, he writes the long story, I'm a fifty

2455
02:18:22,479 --> 02:18:25,079
eight year old got to be our oldest listener, fifty

2456
02:18:25,079 --> 02:18:27,639
eight year old New Zealander wow, who first fell for

2457
02:18:27,639 --> 02:18:30,639
wrestling in the mid seventies watching New Zealand's own on

2458
02:18:30,719 --> 02:18:32,920
the mat. This would feature New Zealand hero such as

2459
02:18:33,000 --> 02:18:36,600
Steve Recard, Samoan Joe with an n Yes Samoan Joe,

2460
02:18:36,920 --> 02:18:39,559
and Mark Lewin taking on the likes of Robert the

2461
02:18:39,600 --> 02:18:42,120
Bruce King, Curtis Ika and Don Morocco as part of

2462
02:18:42,120 --> 02:18:45,399
the NWA their champions would also visit, none more feared

2463
02:18:45,399 --> 02:18:47,559
than Hardly Race. Of course, my twin brother and I

2464
02:18:47,639 --> 02:18:50,479
would spend hours practicing our wrestling every week when we

2465
02:18:50,479 --> 02:18:54,159
weren't a brawling MMA style. In the eighties, the WWF arrived,

2466
02:18:54,319 --> 02:18:56,600
wasn't on New Zealand TV, so we bought magazines and

2467
02:18:56,639 --> 02:18:59,440
lived for rental videotapes. You can imagine the excitement of

2468
02:18:59,520 --> 02:19:02,360
hiring wrestle Mania one, not knowing the results. Hiring that

2469
02:19:02,440 --> 02:19:07,079
must be a key WE word for renting. Hiring like that.

2470
02:19:07,600 --> 02:19:10,479
The pageantry, the size of the wrestlers and the arenas

2471
02:19:10,559 --> 02:19:13,959
was a sight to behold. WWF was only available on PATV,

2472
02:19:14,040 --> 02:19:16,520
but WCW was on free to air, so we watched

2473
02:19:16,520 --> 02:19:19,280
Flair and Sting battle it out on random late night broadcasts.

2474
02:19:19,399 --> 02:19:21,319
Over the years, I continue to be a fan, seeing

2475
02:19:21,399 --> 02:19:24,399
WWF live in New Zealand Undertaker vers Angle versus Mark

2476
02:19:24,399 --> 02:19:27,280
Henry main event, and also watching many independent shows seeing

2477
02:19:27,280 --> 02:19:29,520
a very young Dakota Kai learned the ropes. I also

2478
02:19:29,520 --> 02:19:31,559
passed the wrestling lore onto our son, who loved my

2479
02:19:31,600 --> 02:19:33,200
old tapes and who at ten hit me with a

2480
02:19:33,200 --> 02:19:35,959
flare chop so perfect that I had a handprint bruise

2481
02:19:36,000 --> 02:19:38,959
for five days. These days, he's twenty five and a big, strong,

2482
02:19:39,000 --> 02:19:42,079
lovely man. And when we me, my twin brother and

2483
02:19:42,159 --> 02:19:45,200
son start to lapse. When our heroes faded Hogan Hart

2484
02:19:45,239 --> 02:19:48,200
Michael's taker Flair, and when UFC arrived, instead of watching

2485
02:19:48,200 --> 02:19:50,680
fake fights, we could watch real ones and they fought

2486
02:19:50,719 --> 02:19:53,399
just like my brother and I did when we were kids.

2487
02:19:53,840 --> 02:19:56,879
UFC led to Shirt Dog and TJ. My podcast addiction

2488
02:19:57,040 --> 02:19:59,000
was born. I listened to all his Shirtdog shows and

2489
02:19:59,040 --> 02:20:00,799
then backed him on Patreon on from day one for

2490
02:20:00,840 --> 02:20:03,600
between rounds. When he stopped producing content, I contributed for

2491
02:20:03,600 --> 02:20:05,680
a year to say thanks, then face the reality that

2492
02:20:05,719 --> 02:20:08,159
I needed more, so I sampled TLF. At first, it

2493
02:20:08,159 --> 02:20:10,520
was intimidating, a five to six hour podcast on a

2494
02:20:10,520 --> 02:20:12,879
single event. What could they talk about for so long?

2495
02:20:13,360 --> 02:20:15,680
But the research knowledge and sources and the boss's lore

2496
02:20:15,719 --> 02:20:18,159
and impressions had me hooked. My wife noticed I was

2497
02:20:18,239 --> 02:20:21,600
volunteering to do household chores. Hey, there's that thumbs up, motherfucker.

2498
02:20:21,879 --> 02:20:25,319
There's that thumbs up, motherfucker. Yes, with a new enthusiasm

2499
02:20:25,360 --> 02:20:27,680
as I listened to my weekly episodes, but I needed

2500
02:20:27,719 --> 02:20:30,319
more and stopped being a freeloader. When you read my name,

2501
02:20:30,399 --> 02:20:32,680
I punched the air with pride, pride that I was

2502
02:20:32,680 --> 02:20:35,600
contributing in my own small way to something meaningful. So

2503
02:20:35,680 --> 02:20:37,719
I worked my way through the back catalog, starting with

2504
02:20:37,719 --> 02:20:40,760
the WrestleMania Journey, but the TLF Everest remained the trial

2505
02:20:40,799 --> 02:20:43,600
of his life. I recently completed it and would suggest

2506
02:20:43,639 --> 02:20:46,920
it should be preserved in the Smithsonian. It is an

2507
02:20:47,040 --> 02:20:49,959
unmatched piece of journalism. So I wanted to write to

2508
02:20:50,000 --> 02:20:52,399
thank you for all the work and all the joy

2509
02:20:52,559 --> 02:20:55,479
you bring nekhon me. I think how you say it.

2510
02:20:55,520 --> 02:20:57,879
Thanks Richard, well, thank you Richard. We're honored to have

2511
02:20:57,920 --> 02:20:59,799
you as a listener. And thank you very much for

2512
02:20:59,840 --> 02:21:03,360
the the vote of confidence. Christopher Queen, thank you very

2513
02:21:03,440 --> 02:21:05,680
much for recently joining the Mote tier. That is a

2514
02:21:05,719 --> 02:21:08,239
big time move from you. Stephen Jolly, thank you very much.

2515
02:21:08,239 --> 02:21:11,879
We appreciate the support. We dropped spotlight on him, didn't we, Boss.

2516
02:21:11,840 --> 02:21:14,079
Speaker 3: Yes we did. We had to do it, Yes we did,

2517
02:21:14,399 --> 02:21:16,959
and Scott was one of my one of my one

2518
02:21:16,959 --> 02:21:22,200
of my crowning surprises. There are there there are a few,

2519
02:21:22,280 --> 02:21:27,680
I would say I would say the the my favorites

2520
02:21:29,319 --> 02:21:35,159
home alone. It's a wonderful Life, and spotlight. Wow, my

2521
02:21:35,360 --> 02:21:39,360
three favorite surprises to drop on you. Electric, Yeah, truly

2522
02:21:39,399 --> 02:21:45,399
electric Spotlight. I'm getting abused, he writes. That fucking cast

2523
02:21:45,440 --> 02:21:49,440
has been to my ass for eight hours. He says,

2524
02:21:49,479 --> 02:21:54,360
the spotlight. Yees, spotlight, it's win way. I'm getting abused

2525
02:21:55,319 --> 02:21:56,319
right now.

2526
02:21:56,879 --> 02:22:03,000
Speaker 2: Right now. This might be your finest work yet, gentlemen,

2527
02:22:03,040 --> 02:22:06,440
he writes, Absolutely tremendous stuff. I really enjoyed getting to

2528
02:22:06,479 --> 02:22:09,440
hear not only that run in from Glenn Cain, but

2529
02:22:09,520 --> 02:22:11,799
that insight from Jack as well. I think the most

2530
02:22:11,840 --> 02:22:14,680
important thing here was realizing that Jack's journey has taken

2531
02:22:14,760 --> 02:22:16,719
us from a burger in the room to a muffin

2532
02:22:16,719 --> 02:22:23,200
in the bathroom. Forgot about that because it really is

2533
02:22:23,239 --> 02:22:24,280
all about food.

2534
02:22:25,520 --> 02:22:26,680
Speaker 3: It is, that's for sure.

2535
02:22:26,719 --> 02:22:29,120
Speaker 2: The homie Ben Blake has a request, and I think

2536
02:22:29,120 --> 02:22:32,479
it's your turn to dissatisfy it. Have you ever heard

2537
02:22:32,479 --> 02:22:35,479
of the Doctor SEUs book Fox and Socks.

2538
02:22:35,159 --> 02:22:36,840
Speaker 3: H No, I have not.

2539
02:22:37,959 --> 02:22:42,479
Speaker 2: I just sent you a link. Okay's a copy of

2540
02:22:42,559 --> 02:22:43,719
said children's classic.

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02:22:44,079 --> 02:22:45,120
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh my god.

2542
02:22:45,159 --> 02:22:48,200
Speaker 2: The simple request from an avid fan of for a

2543
02:22:48,200 --> 02:22:51,159
long time who believes the show is second to none,

2544
02:22:52,319 --> 02:22:53,879
even though he may be the only TLF fan in

2545
02:22:53,920 --> 02:22:56,520
the world who doesn't care about wrestling. He wants the

2546
02:22:56,879 --> 02:22:59,440
boss Man to do a great favor and to read

2547
02:22:59,479 --> 02:23:02,360
Doctor SEUs is Fox and Socks and lapsed Vince's voice.

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02:23:02,840 --> 02:23:04,520
On the next nail Bag episode.

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02:23:04,920 --> 02:23:08,520
Speaker 3: All right, here we go. We'll go back to the

2550
02:23:08,559 --> 02:23:11,639
beginning here, We'll go to the top page. Here. Uh,

2551
02:23:11,799 --> 02:23:15,360
Fox in Socks. This is a book you read aloud

2552
02:23:15,399 --> 02:23:18,200
to find out just how smart your tongue is the

2553
02:23:18,200 --> 02:23:20,680
first time you read it. Don't go fast. This fox

2554
02:23:20,799 --> 02:23:23,639
is a tricky fox. He'll try to get your tongue

2555
02:23:24,120 --> 02:23:29,239
in trouble. By the doctor. This is by a doctor

2556
02:23:29,280 --> 02:23:34,239
Seuss says, here, take it slowly. This book is dangerous.

2557
02:23:35,079 --> 02:23:35,559
Speaker 2: I agree.

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02:23:36,879 --> 02:23:50,000
Speaker 3: Fox and Socks by doctor Seuss. Mm hmm. Fox Socks

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02:23:51,840 --> 02:24:02,639
Box knocks Ville County, Knox in box. Well, I gotta

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02:24:02,760 --> 02:24:07,200
change there we go Knocks in box, Fox in socks,

2561
02:24:08,319 --> 02:24:15,040
knocks on, Fox in socks in box, socks on knocks

2562
02:24:15,120 --> 02:24:21,399
and knocks in box, Fox in socks on, knocks on,

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02:24:21,600 --> 02:24:22,200
box on.

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02:24:22,920 --> 02:24:27,840
Speaker 2: Knocks getting silly. Mm hmm.

2565
02:24:28,559 --> 02:24:37,920
Speaker 3: Chicks with with what Chicks with bricks, bricks, Chicks with

2566
02:24:38,079 --> 02:24:47,239
blocks come brother, Chicks with bricks and blocks and clocks. Come, look, sir, look, sir,

2567
02:24:48,200 --> 02:24:52,399
mister Knox, sir, let's do tricks with bricks and blocks, sir.

2568
02:24:53,040 --> 02:24:55,840
Let's do tricks with chicks and clocks.

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02:24:56,600 --> 02:25:02,760
Speaker 2: Sir. First, I'll make a quick trick brick stack. Then

2570
02:25:03,600 --> 02:25:07,360
I'll make a quick trick block stack. You can make

2571
02:25:07,399 --> 02:25:11,280
a quick trick chick stack. You can make a quick

2572
02:25:11,360 --> 02:25:17,319
trick clock stack. And here's a new trick, mister Knox.

2573
02:25:17,600 --> 02:25:20,920
Speaker 3: Socks on chicks and chicks on Fox, Fox on clocks

2574
02:25:21,440 --> 02:25:30,959
on bricks and blocks, bricks and blocks on knocks on box. Well,

2575
02:25:31,000 --> 02:25:33,280
now we come to ticks and talks, sir, so try

2576
02:25:33,319 --> 02:25:37,399
to say this, mister Knox, sir, clocks on Fox, tick

2577
02:25:37,520 --> 02:25:42,879
clocks on Knox talk six sick bricks tick six sick

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02:25:43,000 --> 02:25:49,959
chicks talk, please, sir, I don't like this tricks or

2579
02:25:50,079 --> 02:25:54,399
my tongue isn't quite quick or slick, Sir, I get

2580
02:25:54,440 --> 02:25:56,760
all these ticks and clocks or mixed up with the

2581
02:25:56,959 --> 02:25:59,840
chicks and talks. Er, I can't do it, mister Fox.

2582
02:26:01,159 --> 02:26:05,959
I'm so sorry, mister Knox, Sir. Here's an easy game

2583
02:26:06,000 --> 02:26:09,559
to play. Here's an easy thing to say. New socks

2584
02:26:09,719 --> 02:26:13,559
twu socks whose socks sues socks.

2585
02:26:14,559 --> 02:26:22,520
Speaker 2: Mhm. Who sews whose socks? Sue sows Sue's socks? Who

2586
02:26:22,600 --> 02:26:28,120
sees who Sue? Who sees who sow? Who's new socks? Sir,

2587
02:26:28,959 --> 02:26:34,239
you see Sue, so sue new socks. That's not easy,

2588
02:26:34,280 --> 02:26:38,879
mister foxer. Now who comes Crow comes? Brother?

2589
02:26:39,040 --> 02:26:45,879
Speaker 3: Slow Joe Crow comes who brother? Who sews crows clothes?

2590
02:26:46,440 --> 02:26:54,879
Sue sews crows clothes slow? Slow Joe Crow sews whose

2591
02:26:54,959 --> 02:27:02,280
clothes sues clothes? Mm hmm, I agree, slow Joe Crow

2592
02:27:02,360 --> 02:27:09,159
sews knocks in box. Now so Sue sews rose on

2593
02:27:09,280 --> 02:27:13,520
slow Joe Crow's clothes. Right, Fox sews hose on slow

2594
02:27:13,639 --> 02:27:21,280
Joe crows nose, hose goes, rose grows, nose, hose goes some, crows,

2595
02:27:21,440 --> 02:27:27,360
rose grows some. Mister Fox, I hate this game, sir.

2596
02:27:27,799 --> 02:27:31,760
This game makes my tongue quite lame, Sir, mister Knox, Sir,

2597
02:27:31,799 --> 02:27:36,200
what a shame, sir. We'll find something new to do.

2598
02:27:36,280 --> 02:27:39,959
Now here is lots of new blue go now now

2599
02:27:40,000 --> 02:27:44,239
goo blue goo gooey gooey blue goo now goo gloe

2600
02:27:44,239 --> 02:27:50,479
gloey gooey goo for chewing, for chewy chewing. That's what

2601
02:27:50,639 --> 02:27:53,760
that goo goose is doing. Do you choose to chew

2602
02:27:53,760 --> 02:27:57,680
goo tooo, Sir? If Sir U Sir choose to choose

2603
02:27:57,719 --> 02:28:04,719
her with the goo goose, choose do sir, mister Foxer,

2604
02:28:04,719 --> 02:28:06,280
I won't do it. I can't say it. I won't

2605
02:28:06,319 --> 02:28:08,959
chew it. Very well, sir, step this way, we'll find

2606
02:28:09,000 --> 02:28:14,639
another game to play. Bim comes, Ben comes, Bim brings

2607
02:28:14,680 --> 02:28:19,799
Ben Broom, Ben brings, Bim broom Ben, Ben's, Ben's broom, Bim,

2608
02:28:19,879 --> 02:28:24,920
Ben's Ben's broom, BIMs benz, Ben's bens, Ben's Ben broom breaks,

2609
02:28:25,399 --> 02:28:31,239
Bim's bent, broom breaks, Ben's band, Bim's band, big bands,

2610
02:28:31,280 --> 02:28:35,319
pig bands, Bim and Ben lead bands with brooms, Bim's

2611
02:28:35,360 --> 02:28:43,879
band bangs and Bim's band broom booms, big band, Boom band,

2612
02:28:44,479 --> 02:28:48,040
big band Broomband my poor mouth can't say that, No, Sir,

2613
02:28:48,440 --> 02:28:50,479
My poor mouth is much too slow.

2614
02:28:50,520 --> 02:28:55,159
Speaker 2: Sir. Well, then bring your mouth this way. I'll find

2615
02:28:55,200 --> 02:29:01,000
it something it can say. Luke Luck likes lakes, Luke's

2616
02:29:01,079 --> 02:29:07,000
Duck likes linkes, Luke Luck licks lakes, Luke's duck licks licks,

2617
02:29:08,159 --> 02:29:12,479
Duck takes licks in lakes. Luke Luck likes Luke Luck

2618
02:29:12,840 --> 02:29:18,680
takes licks in Lynx duck likes. I can't blab such

2619
02:29:18,719 --> 02:29:23,520
blibber blubber. My tongue isn't made of rubber, mister Knox. Now,

2620
02:29:23,600 --> 02:29:27,719
come now, come now, you don't have to be so dumb.

2621
02:29:27,799 --> 02:29:33,200
Now try to say this, mister Knox. Flease through three

2622
02:29:33,280 --> 02:29:38,000
cheese trees, three free fleas flu while these fleas flew

2623
02:29:38,399 --> 02:29:43,479
freezy breeze, blue freezy breeze made these three trees freeze.

2624
02:29:44,000 --> 02:29:49,200
Freezy trees made these trees cheese freeze. That's what made

2625
02:29:49,239 --> 02:29:55,200
these three free fleas sneeze. Stot it, stot it.

2626
02:29:55,719 --> 02:29:59,159
Speaker 3: Now that's enough, sir, I can't say such subby stuff. Sir,

2627
02:30:00,360 --> 02:30:03,200
very well, then, mister knoxer, let's have a little talk

2628
02:30:03,239 --> 02:30:08,879
about tweetle beetles. What do you know about tweetle beetles. Well,

2629
02:30:09,520 --> 02:30:13,479
when tweetle beetles fight is called a tweetle beetle battle.

2630
02:30:14,360 --> 02:30:16,840
When they battle on a puddle, it's a tweetle beetle

2631
02:30:16,879 --> 02:30:20,959
puddle battle. And when tweetle beetles battle with paddles in

2632
02:30:20,959 --> 02:30:24,040
a puddle, they call it a tweetle beetle puddle paddle battle.

2633
02:30:24,200 --> 02:30:30,680
And that notwithstanding, when when beetles battle beetles in a

2634
02:30:30,719 --> 02:30:36,079
puddle battle. When beetles battle beetles in a puddle paddle battle,

2635
02:30:36,520 --> 02:30:39,879
and the beetle battle puddle is a puddle in a bottle,

2636
02:30:40,639 --> 02:30:45,760
they call this a tweetle beetle bottle puddle paddle battle muddle.

2637
02:30:46,639 --> 02:30:51,600
And when beetles fight those these battles in a bottle

2638
02:30:51,639 --> 02:30:54,680
with their paddles and their bottles on a poodle and

2639
02:30:54,680 --> 02:30:58,000
the poodles eating noodles, they call this a muddle puddle

2640
02:30:58,040 --> 02:31:04,600
tweetle poodle, beetle noodle bottle paddle battle, right, obviously, And

2641
02:31:05,159 --> 02:31:11,200
now wait a minute, mister socks fox, When a fox

2642
02:31:11,440 --> 02:31:14,040
is in the bottle where the tweetle beetle battle with

2643
02:31:14,120 --> 02:31:16,879
their paddles in a puddle on a noodle eating poodle,

2644
02:31:17,120 --> 02:31:20,280
this is what they call a tweetle beetle noodle poodle

2645
02:31:20,559 --> 02:31:24,959
bottled paddled, muddled, duddled, fuddled waddled Fox in socks, Sir,

2646
02:31:26,399 --> 02:31:29,559
Fox and socks, our game is dumb, sir, Thank you

2647
02:31:29,600 --> 02:31:34,799
for a lot of fun, sir. Now you're now is

2648
02:31:34,840 --> 02:31:38,600
your tongue numb? The end?

2649
02:31:39,520 --> 02:31:46,600
Speaker 2: Wow? Wow, I was captivated fox and socks. I mean

2650
02:31:47,959 --> 02:31:48,920
somewhere deep down.

2651
02:31:49,680 --> 02:31:53,680
Speaker 3: A fable by Doctor Seuss read by Vincent Kennedy McMahon.

2652
02:31:56,040 --> 02:31:58,440
Speaker 2: There's something ro co co about it. There's something very

2653
02:31:59,559 --> 02:32:04,760
spirits consistent with Vince and what we Chris wants us

2654
02:32:04,799 --> 02:32:07,120
to know. There is a phrase in soccer, if in doubt,

2655
02:32:07,200 --> 02:32:10,200
kick it out. The wrestling equivalent is clearly if in doubt,

2656
02:32:10,760 --> 02:32:18,239
hurt yourself. Adam, thank you very much for that executive

2657
02:32:18,280 --> 02:32:21,920
producer level pledge. We appreciated Sam speaking of Saboo being

2658
02:32:21,959 --> 02:32:24,719
generous and kind to younger wrestlers. I did Carney wrestler

2659
02:32:24,760 --> 02:32:26,520
training for a couple of months in my youth. My

2660
02:32:26,600 --> 02:32:28,159
trainer told us a story about having a match with

2661
02:32:28,159 --> 02:32:30,040
Sabo in the nineties and Sabu called for a spot

2662
02:32:30,079 --> 02:32:32,079
where he gives this guy a DDT off the top rope.

2663
02:32:32,239 --> 02:32:33,559
The guy goes, yeah, but how the hell do you

2664
02:32:33,719 --> 02:32:35,479
do that safely? I'm just gonna land in your chest

2665
02:32:35,479 --> 02:32:37,920
off the top and Sabu says, just land on me.

2666
02:32:37,959 --> 02:32:40,559
I'll take the impact. They do the spot and Sabu

2667
02:32:40,600 --> 02:32:42,600
gets the wind knocked out of him. He didn't care.

2668
02:32:42,879 --> 02:32:45,079
That was Saboo. I think it's actually a pretty good

2669
02:32:45,079 --> 02:32:49,319
little salvation of the guy right there. Thanks for sharing.

2670
02:32:49,399 --> 02:32:51,479
Dan Swartwoud thank you very much for your pledge. We

2671
02:32:51,520 --> 02:32:55,360
appreciate it. Ryan writes, Lol, so JP really thought there

2672
02:32:55,399 --> 02:32:58,040
was a possibility that Sabou was in that movie as

2673
02:32:58,079 --> 02:33:01,000
a child and was already no as Saboo.

2674
02:33:01,559 --> 02:33:03,559
Speaker 3: Yes, there was like a split moment.

2675
02:33:03,719 --> 02:33:06,799
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's good ship pals, split moment, split moment,

2676
02:33:06,879 --> 02:33:09,719
just confirming. Ronnie Cathy, thank you very much for the pledge, Matthew,

2677
02:33:10,000 --> 02:33:12,639
he says, interviews with people like Glenn are just gold

2678
02:33:12,959 --> 02:33:16,120
loved it. Yeah, what a triumph that was. He was

2679
02:33:16,159 --> 02:33:20,159
great so many ways. Adam B, thank you very much

2680
02:33:20,159 --> 02:33:23,959
for the pledge. We deeply appreciate the sport. Alex Ali

2681
02:33:24,120 --> 02:33:26,520
Wrights Dear Jack and JP. On the Final Class of

2682
02:33:26,559 --> 02:33:29,040
the Champions episode, you mentioned that many w W themes

2683
02:33:29,040 --> 02:33:31,440
were royalty free tracks from the Turner music Library. I

2684
02:33:31,520 --> 02:33:33,360
work as a director for pre and postgame shows at

2685
02:33:33,360 --> 02:33:35,879
a regional sports network. Hey now, and I've actually come

2686
02:33:35,920 --> 02:33:38,120
across a few of those themes in our music library.

2687
02:33:38,360 --> 02:33:40,360
One of my favorites is a track called slow Death.

2688
02:33:40,399 --> 02:33:42,719
It's perfect for hockey highlights, especially when there's a big

2689
02:33:42,760 --> 02:33:44,959
hit or a fight. I've requested it so often that

2690
02:33:45,000 --> 02:33:47,159
our audio operators know toe save it. For those types

2691
02:33:47,200 --> 02:33:50,120
of highlights. The wrestler we used slow Death during his career,

2692
02:33:50,360 --> 02:33:54,280
one of the Lapsolar System's favorite bitter bitches. Hardcore Holly

2693
02:33:54,639 --> 02:33:57,200
Wow or a s JP might call him hardcore Hollins

2694
02:33:57,200 --> 02:33:59,840
your pal Ali, right, that's true. That's huge that we

2695
02:33:59,920 --> 02:34:04,079
know the actual name and kind of genesis of that hardcore.

2696
02:34:04,719 --> 02:34:07,360
Speaker 3: His name is called, his name is the song's name

2697
02:34:07,399 --> 02:34:11,840
is slow Death. Yes, yes, it is hilarious, pretty wild.

2698
02:34:11,879 --> 02:34:12,360
Thanks for that.

2699
02:34:12,360 --> 02:34:14,719
Speaker 2: That's a very helpful color because I have heard it.

2700
02:34:14,879 --> 02:34:17,079
I've heard that song everywhere, not just in WWF.

2701
02:34:17,200 --> 02:34:21,319
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, remember we remember h the series finale of

2702
02:34:21,319 --> 02:34:23,959
Hogan Knows Bad. Sure, yep, they play it when Hogan's

2703
02:34:24,040 --> 02:34:26,879
driving up to see uh to see brook teeny.

2704
02:34:26,959 --> 02:34:29,280
Speaker 2: It's a great call. And they played it on Spike

2705
02:34:29,319 --> 02:34:31,360
TV all the time when they would, like, you know,

2706
02:34:31,440 --> 02:34:33,239
you finish watching one show and they would play a

2707
02:34:33,319 --> 02:34:35,760
highlight for what's coming up or trailer for their in

2708
02:34:35,879 --> 02:34:36,440
house stuff.

2709
02:34:39,520 --> 02:34:49,920
Speaker 3: But mom pun on mom doun on mom.

2710
02:34:49,440 --> 02:34:53,760
Speaker 2: Peg right, Lance heath Wall, thank you very much for

2711
02:34:53,840 --> 02:34:56,680
your pledge. Welcome to the VIP tier. Luthernoli just went

2712
02:34:56,719 --> 02:34:58,120
all the way up to that mote tier. That's a

2713
02:34:58,200 --> 02:35:01,879
thrill oli I have ever heard one. It's the mail

2714
02:35:01,879 --> 02:35:04,559
bag of real solid ogs in the game, letting us

2715
02:35:04,600 --> 02:35:08,920
know they're out there. Two for they're out there and

2716
02:35:08,920 --> 02:35:11,120
they're ready to be of use to us. This one

2717
02:35:11,120 --> 02:35:13,879
from Tony says, Hello, chairman, I've been enjoying your podcast

2718
02:35:13,879 --> 02:35:15,600
for many years. I would love in some way to

2719
02:35:15,639 --> 02:35:17,760
be able to contribute. I'm about ten years older than

2720
02:35:17,799 --> 02:35:19,719
you guys, and I had the distinction of growing up

2721
02:35:19,719 --> 02:35:25,079
as a wrestling fan in Allentown, Pennsylvania. Wow, we know

2722
02:35:25,120 --> 02:35:25,799
what we can do with that?

2723
02:35:26,680 --> 02:35:27,520
Speaker 3: Is he a nasty boy?

2724
02:35:27,600 --> 02:35:31,440
Speaker 2: Oh? Related to the Nasties? The Sags's sister Raw The

2725
02:35:31,479 --> 02:35:34,360
whole family came over. I actually grew up in Bethlehem,

2726
02:35:34,399 --> 02:35:36,600
and nobody cares. It's all about the time spent in

2727
02:35:36,639 --> 02:35:39,239
Agricultural Hall with my mom and my Portuguese neighbor who

2728
02:35:39,280 --> 02:35:42,120
learned how to speak English by watching WWF wrestling. My

2729
02:35:42,200 --> 02:35:44,760
mom used to take me and my friend Carlos to

2730
02:35:44,840 --> 02:35:47,879
Agricultural Hall every three weeks to watch WWF tapings. If

2731
02:35:47,920 --> 02:35:49,760
you ever need a perspective on the atmosphere of the

2732
02:35:49,760 --> 02:35:52,520
aura and the abundance of white trash, I would be

2733
02:35:52,559 --> 02:35:55,399
happy to eloquently express the time period and words for

2734
02:35:55,399 --> 02:35:57,479
those who were not able to experience when it was better.

2735
02:35:57,559 --> 02:35:59,159
Please let me know if I can contribute for an

2736
02:35:59,200 --> 02:36:02,000
upcoming podcast. Well, you know what, pal, here's the thing.

2737
02:36:03,600 --> 02:36:05,239
I'm sure at some point we're going to come across

2738
02:36:05,239 --> 02:36:07,559
ag hol again and it's going to be on the table.

2739
02:36:07,879 --> 02:36:11,520
We felt a certain urge to pilgrimage there when we

2740
02:36:11,559 --> 02:36:14,040
went there for WrestleMania forty. We were there. We had

2741
02:36:14,079 --> 02:36:16,879
to remember, we bought tickets to a fucking stamp show

2742
02:36:17,319 --> 02:36:19,559
while walking with the old ladies so we could stomp

2743
02:36:19,559 --> 02:36:22,200
where they used to tape. Tell oh my god, try

2744
02:36:22,280 --> 02:36:24,600
to explain to them, and they're trying to explain to us, like,

2745
02:36:25,000 --> 02:36:27,920
you know what this is right, there's nobody here who's

2746
02:36:27,959 --> 02:36:31,079
less than sixty eight years old. Yeah, and it's like, well, actually,

2747
02:36:31,319 --> 02:36:33,479
do you know wwfs in town. It's like just go,

2748
02:36:33,959 --> 02:36:38,520
just go just that is horrible, horribly embarrassing that day.

2749
02:36:38,600 --> 02:36:40,520
But remember that market over there, that was pretty cool.

2750
02:36:40,959 --> 02:36:43,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, there was some there were some interesting things

2751
02:36:43,319 --> 02:36:44,360
there for sure going on.

2752
02:36:44,680 --> 02:36:47,680
Speaker 2: But Tony, you write it up, man. That's that's why

2753
02:36:47,719 --> 02:36:50,200
I wanted to make sure to signpost this during the

2754
02:36:50,520 --> 02:36:53,479
mailbag episode. Just write up anything you remember. Just give

2755
02:36:53,559 --> 02:36:55,920
us an essay of all the high points. Let us

2756
02:36:55,959 --> 02:36:58,239
know not just that you were there, but what it

2757
02:36:58,319 --> 02:37:00,520
was you saw there that you still remember to this day.

2758
02:37:00,760 --> 02:37:02,440
And describe what it was like to go to those

2759
02:37:02,479 --> 02:37:05,200
television tapings. Who did you always see? What was the

2760
02:37:05,239 --> 02:37:05,959
crowd makeup?

2761
02:37:06,040 --> 02:37:06,120
Speaker 3: Like?

2762
02:37:06,200 --> 02:37:08,239
Speaker 2: What was it always the same people? What time of

2763
02:37:08,360 --> 02:37:09,959
day was it? You know, what did you get to

2764
02:37:10,079 --> 02:37:11,600
what did you get to eat? These are things we

2765
02:37:11,680 --> 02:37:15,520
must know, just like how long? How long was it?

2766
02:37:15,920 --> 02:37:19,200
How long was a full day? Exactly? How well could

2767
02:37:19,200 --> 02:37:21,399
you hear the promo segments like the piper's pit stuff

2768
02:37:21,399 --> 02:37:23,159
and all the things they set up in the back there?

2769
02:37:23,680 --> 02:37:25,120
How would you get in and out? How would the

2770
02:37:25,120 --> 02:37:27,719
wrestlers get in and out of the building? Did everybody

2771
02:37:27,719 --> 02:37:29,920
know where to look for the wrestler's cars? Is all

2772
02:37:29,920 --> 02:37:31,399
this stuff true that we used to hear that the

2773
02:37:31,440 --> 02:37:33,360
heels you know, used to have their tires slashed and

2774
02:37:33,399 --> 02:37:35,719
all that shit. Give it to us, you know what

2775
02:37:35,760 --> 02:37:39,600
we need, Joe writes Mongo. Of course we did our

2776
02:37:39,639 --> 02:37:42,520
Mango tribute used to do spots for a local gentleman's club.

2777
02:37:42,559 --> 02:37:44,520
When he would just go champagne room. That's what he

2778
02:37:44,520 --> 02:37:46,920
would just say over and over again. I spent hours

2779
02:37:46,920 --> 02:37:49,079
trying to find it. Well, it's too bad that we

2780
02:37:49,120 --> 02:37:52,879
didn't esc Thank you very much for your support and

2781
02:37:53,520 --> 02:37:57,280
for champagne room. Yeah, the champagne room. That's where you

2782
02:37:57,559 --> 02:38:00,360
go to be, you know, in private with the strippers

2783
02:38:01,879 --> 02:38:04,719
and where the gagging happens. I won't say there. From

2784
02:38:04,719 --> 02:38:07,719
who to who? Matt Anton Houston. He sent us a

2785
02:38:07,719 --> 02:38:09,959
little bit of cheddar on PayPal, which we love to see,

2786
02:38:10,239 --> 02:38:12,559
and a little note just to let it go down easy,

2787
02:38:12,840 --> 02:38:14,840
He writes, I have a jar of fat under my sink.

2788
02:38:15,000 --> 02:38:16,959
I pour oil into it after cooking to prevent my

2789
02:38:17,040 --> 02:38:19,680
drain clogging up. Occasionally bits of food end up in there,

2790
02:38:19,719 --> 02:38:23,120
swimming around. It has a centimeter layer of white hardened

2791
02:38:23,120 --> 02:38:27,159
fat on top. The smell is immense. This is how

2792
02:38:27,200 --> 02:38:36,159
I imagine Dusty's nether regions. Durnada wants us to know

2793
02:38:36,200 --> 02:38:40,120
that there were one male rats, at least in Philly

2794
02:38:40,200 --> 02:38:42,319
during the ecw Ring of Honor days. The Special k

2795
02:38:42,479 --> 02:38:45,159
Faction had quite a few of them. So there you go.

2796
02:38:45,959 --> 02:38:47,639
You're asking about male rats before.

2797
02:38:47,760 --> 02:38:50,719
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I remember, I remember.

2798
02:38:50,479 --> 02:38:53,079
Speaker 2: Bud Stefan Heenan. Always appreciate your sport. Thank you very much.

2799
02:38:53,159 --> 02:38:56,000
Rob Williams, thanks for the increase in sport. Really appreciated

2800
02:38:56,040 --> 02:38:59,120
Jordan's Capecchi. Thank you very much for always putting down

2801
02:38:59,559 --> 02:39:02,680
the chutter that makes the difference. Zach puts it well

2802
02:39:02,719 --> 02:39:06,319
on on Spotlight. Lots of parallels between wrestling and the

2803
02:39:06,360 --> 02:39:09,600
territory days and the American Catholic Church moving priests around

2804
02:39:09,639 --> 02:39:12,479
to get their shine back. One territory parish to the next.

2805
02:39:12,520 --> 02:39:14,680
Has no knowledge of a fresh, new, baby faced priest

2806
02:39:14,719 --> 02:39:17,879
coming to town. Unfortunately though the priests they considered altar

2807
02:39:17,920 --> 02:39:22,239
boys their ring rats. Yeah, it's it's it's it's similar.

2808
02:39:22,799 --> 02:39:27,159
There's some truth, similar lifestyles, similar lots in life. Tim Lee,

2809
02:39:27,239 --> 02:39:29,840
thank you for the pledge. Christian Holister, of course, always

2810
02:39:29,879 --> 02:39:33,159
rock solid. Who are you playing with? Wresselmania nine Hulk?

2811
02:39:33,959 --> 02:39:37,159
I got no, I got uh, I got two gloops here,

2812
02:39:37,159 --> 02:39:42,000
I got Sid and Luger. It's a good match. Yeah,

2813
02:39:42,159 --> 02:39:42,520
you know.

2814
02:39:42,600 --> 02:39:44,959
Speaker 3: We have the pain great hip tosses. The great hip

2815
02:39:45,239 --> 02:39:48,280
hip tossing is a great thing. Is a great thing

2816
02:39:48,360 --> 02:39:51,680
to keep to keep. Uh uh, you know when the

2817
02:39:51,719 --> 02:39:54,840
wee hours start, the wee hour start Yeah, that's huge.

2818
02:39:54,920 --> 02:39:58,440
Hip hip tossing, hip tossing a drill?

2819
02:39:58,479 --> 02:40:01,760
Speaker 2: You got a drill? Yeah, you have to right, got

2820
02:40:01,760 --> 02:40:03,719
to make sure they're on point for when the lights

2821
02:40:03,719 --> 02:40:06,120
are on the brightest. Right, do you know we have

2822
02:40:06,200 --> 02:40:11,000
the pink sid? What we have the pink sid? We

2823
02:40:11,079 --> 02:40:15,000
have the pink sid. Where I'm looking at it right now?

2824
02:40:15,799 --> 02:40:18,479
What during one of our hauls and whoever it was

2825
02:40:18,520 --> 02:40:20,239
it got it for us is going to remember this?

2826
02:40:21,280 --> 02:40:24,479
It was hidden inside of another gift. What I just

2827
02:40:24,520 --> 02:40:28,040
found it a little while ago. Oh my god, tell

2828
02:40:28,079 --> 02:40:31,200
in your way. Holy shit, those who are what we're

2829
02:40:31,200 --> 02:40:35,159
talking about? W W glube I think uk exclusive there

2830
02:40:35,239 --> 02:40:37,159
was a sid instead of the black singlet. He has

2831
02:40:37,159 --> 02:40:39,879
a pink singlet. He has a pink singlet. Yeah, that's

2832
02:40:39,920 --> 02:40:44,079
wild Bonanza. Those are crazy, I know. So thanks to

2833
02:40:44,079 --> 02:40:46,360
whoever that was. I'm sure we failed to shout them

2834
02:40:46,360 --> 02:40:49,000
out appropriately during the unwrappening because we didn't see it.

2835
02:40:49,079 --> 02:40:52,200
These these motherfuckers hide things. They only get us too much.

2836
02:40:52,319 --> 02:40:56,239
They hide stuff that's wild. Josh writes, this discussion is

2837
02:40:56,239 --> 02:40:57,600
so old and nobody's gonna read.

2838
02:40:57,399 --> 02:41:00,799
Speaker 3: This, but I'm surprised. What I was surprising is that nobody. Yeah,

2839
02:41:00,920 --> 02:41:04,360
reached back out said hey and said, hey, hey, hey,

2840
02:41:05,159 --> 02:41:06,319
I don't think we noticed it.

2841
02:41:07,479 --> 02:41:10,159
Speaker 2: No, I would have noticed that. I would have noticed

2842
02:41:10,159 --> 02:41:12,639
that for sure, because I love those. I love those

2843
02:41:12,680 --> 02:41:14,280
regular but I still have you know, I love them,

2844
02:41:14,399 --> 02:41:18,600
the the big Josh one that I have. Yeah, fucking

2845
02:41:17,680 --> 02:41:21,959
it's Josh. Yeah, that's what happens when we go and

2846
02:41:22,159 --> 02:41:25,280
wax poetically about you know, long lust and rare figures,

2847
02:41:25,319 --> 02:41:28,639
They're gonna end up in our fucking hands. Yep, Josh writes,

2848
02:41:28,680 --> 02:41:30,280
this discussion is so old and nobody is going to

2849
02:41:30,319 --> 02:41:32,840
read this. But regarding ECW's belt designs, remember we talked

2850
02:41:32,840 --> 02:41:35,159
a lot about the ECW belt designs during the Sabage views.

2851
02:41:35,520 --> 02:41:35,600
Speaker 3: Uh.

2852
02:41:35,680 --> 02:41:37,920
Speaker 2: The classic ic and wind Eagle designs were owned by

2853
02:41:37,920 --> 02:41:40,239
Reggie Parks. He retained the rights to produce them at

2854
02:41:40,239 --> 02:41:42,040
well for anybody who wanted to buy them. He was

2855
02:41:42,040 --> 02:41:44,760
even able to sell one to one repros of contemporaneous

2856
02:41:44,799 --> 02:41:46,840
WWF belts as long as he did include the WWAF

2857
02:41:46,959 --> 02:41:49,719
logo on any of the plates. Territories on a budget

2858
02:41:49,719 --> 02:41:52,200
who wanted real belts but couldn't afford Holy Custom Designs

2859
02:41:52,280 --> 02:41:54,959
would buy from Reggie by picking an existing design, similar

2860
02:41:55,040 --> 02:41:57,159
to the way Flash Art works with budget tattoos. The

2861
02:41:57,239 --> 02:42:00,319
high quality replicas that Dufises walk around with it wrestling

2862
02:42:00,360 --> 02:42:02,280
shows didn't quite exist yet. I think it would be

2863
02:42:02,280 --> 02:42:04,440
another two or three years until those figures inc. Replica

2864
02:42:04,440 --> 02:42:07,360
belts started selling. Yes, so that's why the ECW Television

2865
02:42:07,399 --> 02:42:10,639
Championship looked like the Wing Deegal WWF title because you

2866
02:42:10,719 --> 02:42:13,120
know they ordered from Reggie Parks without the WWF logo

2867
02:42:13,239 --> 02:42:13,879
on it, and there you.

2868
02:42:13,959 --> 02:42:17,239
Speaker 3: Go, that's just funny. Why would you, I guess, I guess.

2869
02:42:17,280 --> 02:42:22,639
My question though, really is okay, why though? Why would

2870
02:42:22,680 --> 02:42:28,600
you choose that belt? Right? That is so recognizable? Because

2871
02:42:28,879 --> 02:42:33,319
I mean it is the remind me, is the ECW

2872
02:42:33,479 --> 02:42:36,239
logo on that belt? Yes?

2873
02:42:37,520 --> 02:42:41,719
Speaker 2: So it was made, it was custom made with that design.

2874
02:42:41,840 --> 02:42:44,600
Why would you choose that design? Questions?

2875
02:42:44,639 --> 02:42:44,680
Speaker 1: What?

2876
02:42:44,719 --> 02:42:51,360
Speaker 3: I don't understand the options because it's so recognizable, and

2877
02:42:51,760 --> 02:42:54,440
it also just it's like it also doesn't feel like

2878
02:42:54,479 --> 02:42:58,520
a TV title belt either, Like you know, if you're gonna,

2879
02:42:59,280 --> 02:43:01,040
if you're gonna go with that far to buy the

2880
02:43:01,079 --> 02:43:03,959
same design and put the ECW logo on it, why

2881
02:43:04,000 --> 02:43:05,280
don't you just make it the world belt?

2882
02:43:05,440 --> 02:43:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I agree, it's kind of weird that that

2883
02:43:08,079 --> 02:43:12,680
was the flagship title their Their world title was always

2884
02:43:12,760 --> 02:43:15,760
kind of weird to me. Yeah, because I always think

2885
02:43:15,760 --> 02:43:17,879
of the nineteen ninety nine to one. I don't think

2886
02:43:17,920 --> 02:43:20,719
of the one that was there when, like the one

2887
02:43:20,840 --> 02:43:23,920
Terry Funk one, which is basically the ic title. Yeah,

2888
02:43:24,040 --> 02:43:28,000
template right, I always think of the the one that

2889
02:43:28,159 --> 02:43:30,959
had like the barber cage on it, like the fence

2890
02:43:31,000 --> 02:43:34,520
on it. Yeah, for the tail end days, but right

2891
02:43:35,079 --> 02:43:38,360
right when they when they actually made extreme looking belts, right,

2892
02:43:38,360 --> 02:43:41,200
and the toys and everything. Colin writes, here are some

2893
02:43:41,280 --> 02:43:43,399
rules I have come up with for keeping the titles important.

2894
02:43:43,520 --> 02:43:45,719
Speaking of titles and preventing guys from slipping down the

2895
02:43:45,719 --> 02:43:46,879
card and losing steam. I e.

2896
02:43:46,959 --> 02:43:47,360
Speaker 3: L A.

2897
02:43:47,520 --> 02:43:49,920
Speaker 2: Night one, If you were a former world champion, you

2898
02:43:49,920 --> 02:43:52,840
should never again hold or challenge for the ic US title.

2899
02:43:53,319 --> 02:44:01,520
Would you agree with that? Boss? Yes? I agree, at

2900
02:44:01,600 --> 02:44:05,440
least until that's what killed Chris Jericho. He gets the

2901
02:44:05,520 --> 02:44:07,639
role title and then we're all reminded, well, we didn't

2902
02:44:07,639 --> 02:44:09,719
really mean that he's icy title for a.

2903
02:44:09,760 --> 02:44:13,559
Speaker 3: Life, right, unless unless.

2904
02:44:13,159 --> 02:44:16,920
Speaker 2: They make a guy make a guy.

2905
02:44:16,120 --> 02:44:18,680
Speaker 3: Right, But you know, again, unless you got the guy

2906
02:44:19,159 --> 02:44:22,159
going down you know, unless they're on their way out.

2907
02:44:22,399 --> 02:44:24,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would still find you know, because then

2908
02:44:24,680 --> 02:44:27,079
well because then you can use them to build somebody up. Yeah,

2909
02:44:27,120 --> 02:44:29,239
build up a challenger, but not the champ. They don't

2910
02:44:29,239 --> 02:44:30,879
have the challenge for the belt, but they can help

2911
02:44:30,920 --> 02:44:34,159
set up the next challenger for the belt. Yeah, I guess,

2912
02:44:34,239 --> 02:44:36,399
I guess that's true. I like that rule a lot,

2913
02:44:37,079 --> 02:44:39,159
just over time. I think it'll pay dividends, even if

2914
02:44:39,200 --> 02:44:42,280
it creates inconveniences along the way to only put the

2915
02:44:42,399 --> 02:44:44,000
icy US title on some and if you have semi

2916
02:44:44,000 --> 02:44:46,879
concrete plans to make them world champion, bringing a third

2917
02:44:46,920 --> 02:44:49,040
lower to your belt if need be, icy belt needs

2918
02:44:49,040 --> 02:44:51,840
to hold more prestige, it should be the penultimate step,

2919
02:44:51,920 --> 02:44:54,280
not the first. I like that rule too.

2920
02:44:54,920 --> 02:44:56,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's why they guess why the US

2921
02:44:56,520 --> 02:44:57,639
title exists, honestly.

2922
02:44:57,760 --> 02:44:58,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, right.

2923
02:44:58,719 --> 02:45:01,440
Speaker 3: Three. I've always thought that, Yeah.

2924
02:45:01,319 --> 02:45:03,479
Speaker 2: The European title they kind of made it.

2925
02:45:03,600 --> 02:45:06,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, those I always liked that as being kind of

2926
02:45:06,440 --> 02:45:09,079
a like I like there being steps. I like there

2927
02:45:09,120 --> 02:45:13,719
being multiple steps, yes, to work up your your your

2928
02:45:14,840 --> 02:45:19,159
singles credibility. This one is for fun number three to

2929
02:45:19,159 --> 02:45:21,559
add more prestige the IC belt on one night a year,

2930
02:45:21,879 --> 02:45:24,360
the IC champion can surrender the belt in exchange for

2931
02:45:24,399 --> 02:45:27,120
a shot at the World champ one month notice, no

2932
02:45:27,280 --> 02:45:30,120
cash ins. However, if they lose, they cannot challenge for

2933
02:45:30,159 --> 02:45:34,239
any belt for a year. I think those kind of

2934
02:45:34,239 --> 02:45:37,399
stipulations are great, Yeah, I do. I think those are

2935
02:45:37,520 --> 02:45:43,000
very those are those are I think it's it's hard.

2936
02:45:43,600 --> 02:45:48,840
It's certainly hard in professional wrestling, given that it's fake

2937
02:45:50,440 --> 02:45:52,719
and you're trying to you know, you don't know where

2938
02:45:52,840 --> 02:45:55,280
your guys are going to be in a year, you know,

2939
02:45:55,319 --> 02:45:58,479
No matter how much you plan ahead, you really don't

2940
02:45:58,520 --> 02:46:03,559
know you know who's going to be over in a year,

2941
02:46:04,719 --> 02:46:07,520
you know. So it's hard to plan that, you know,

2942
02:46:07,520 --> 02:46:10,120
because let's say, let's say you have the the Intercontinental.

2943
02:46:10,959 --> 02:46:13,520
You have that you have someone cashing the Interconnental belt, sure,

2944
02:46:14,479 --> 02:46:18,239
and for a world title shot, right kind of what

2945
02:46:18,280 --> 02:46:23,280
didn't they do that in TNA? Yeah, the title? Right,

2946
02:46:23,840 --> 02:46:25,639
So you turn in that belt, you go for it,

2947
02:46:25,680 --> 02:46:27,920
but you lose. But then all of a sudden, within

2948
02:46:27,959 --> 02:46:30,559
that year, that guy who lost becomes the hottest guy

2949
02:46:30,360 --> 02:46:34,959
in the company. Then it's like, well shit, you know,

2950
02:46:35,040 --> 02:46:36,559
I mean, I'm sure you can write a storyline to

2951
02:46:36,639 --> 02:46:39,079
kind of to get your way out of it.

2952
02:46:39,159 --> 02:46:43,520
Speaker 2: But it it. It's it seems like it's a lot

2953
02:46:43,559 --> 02:46:46,879
of work, but I like the idea. I wonder if

2954
02:46:46,879 --> 02:46:49,520
there's a way to do it that would actually that

2955
02:46:49,520 --> 02:46:55,639
would be more I don't know how would you say it,

2956
02:46:55,680 --> 02:46:58,920
but yeah, like that you could do it without kind

2957
02:46:58,959 --> 02:47:01,360
of booking yourself into a corner. Yeah. I think what

2958
02:47:01,639 --> 02:47:04,239
I like about those year things is like, you know,

2959
02:47:04,280 --> 02:47:06,479
even if something happens, the guy leaves, the guy's hurt,

2960
02:47:06,879 --> 02:47:09,600
just don't do it. But if everything's good to do

2961
02:47:09,680 --> 02:47:11,799
it within the year and that year is coming up,

2962
02:47:11,799 --> 02:47:14,000
that's a great dramatic kind of thing to Yeah, that's

2963
02:47:14,079 --> 02:47:16,559
kind of the money to being cash and clock ticking,

2964
02:47:16,680 --> 02:47:16,879
you know.

2965
02:47:17,879 --> 02:47:19,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true too, That is true.

2966
02:47:19,280 --> 02:47:21,600
Speaker 2: I like having that out there and for one fucking

2967
02:47:21,600 --> 02:47:25,559
world champion, Amen, one fucking world that one upper car champion,

2968
02:47:25,760 --> 02:47:28,079
icy belt, one lower car champion, I have to say,

2969
02:47:28,200 --> 02:47:30,559
is someone that's you know, a stickler for world icee

2970
02:47:30,559 --> 02:47:33,399
and tag. I do kind of see what he's going

2971
02:47:33,440 --> 02:47:36,719
for there with that second secondary.

2972
02:47:36,799 --> 02:47:40,159
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's great. I always liked

2973
02:47:40,200 --> 02:47:43,440
having it. Yeah, you know, like having it having a

2974
02:47:43,440 --> 02:47:46,440
TV title or you know, like a US title. You know.

2975
02:47:46,520 --> 02:47:49,399
I also like the idea of the division of it all.

2976
02:47:49,440 --> 02:47:51,559
It's like, well, you're the champion of the US, so

2977
02:47:51,639 --> 02:47:55,959
you've you're conquering that essentially that region of the world,

2978
02:47:55,959 --> 02:47:59,719
and then you you know, you become the Intercontinental champion

2979
02:47:59,719 --> 02:48:02,520
after that, like you know, after you lose that belt,

2980
02:48:02,639 --> 02:48:08,360
you know you, I mean, what what could be interesting? Again?

2981
02:48:08,399 --> 02:48:10,879
This would be crazy hard. This would be a lot

2982
02:48:10,920 --> 02:48:14,399
easier if you were running a legitimate sports league. But

2983
02:48:15,440 --> 02:48:19,479
it's like, okay, so you you win the US title.

2984
02:48:20,000 --> 02:48:23,239
Whenever you lose the US title, you are now in

2985
02:48:23,280 --> 02:48:27,600
the Intercontinental division. Okay, now you have to go for

2986
02:48:27,639 --> 02:48:30,360
the US belt. But if the Intercontinental belt, but if

2987
02:48:30,360 --> 02:48:33,360
you lose the Intercontinental belt, you go back to the

2988
02:48:33,479 --> 02:48:36,159
US title division, right, and you're gonna build your way

2989
02:48:36,159 --> 02:48:40,200
back up again. I don't know, it's.

2990
02:48:40,079 --> 02:48:43,159
Speaker 2: All it's compound. I can see validity there as long

2991
02:48:43,200 --> 02:48:45,120
as the fans believe that it's a stepping stone.

2992
02:48:45,360 --> 02:48:47,760
Speaker 3: But again, the idea is that that that is like,

2993
02:48:47,840 --> 02:48:50,879
how do you That's a lot to keep track of

2994
02:48:51,000 --> 02:48:56,840
it in terms of you know, fictional wrestling.

2995
02:48:57,079 --> 02:48:59,200
Speaker 2: And I heard some good suggestions to fired at US

2996
02:48:59,200 --> 02:49:01,879
since we've broached this topic of like, maybe all you

2997
02:49:01,920 --> 02:49:04,760
do is make the last month's worth of matches relevant

2998
02:49:05,000 --> 02:49:07,680
to your standing. You know, they start do rankings you

2999
02:49:07,680 --> 02:49:10,000
don't have to do since the inception of your time

3000
02:49:10,000 --> 02:49:12,399
in the company, you know, or your all time wrestling record.

3001
02:49:12,719 --> 02:49:15,559
You can just make the recent run the only relevant one,

3002
02:49:15,840 --> 02:49:19,239
you know, the recent comparative records. So these guys go

3003
02:49:19,280 --> 02:49:21,200
on a little bit of a streak before suddenly getting

3004
02:49:21,200 --> 02:49:23,639
a title shot instead of getting a title shot because

3005
02:49:23,879 --> 02:49:26,120
the last paper you just ended, and on the next

3006
02:49:26,200 --> 02:49:28,040
TV the champion comes out and says, who else is

3007
02:49:28,040 --> 02:49:29,680
it going to be? And then the first person to

3008
02:49:29,719 --> 02:49:33,079
walk out somehow gets a title shot. That's just suboptimal,

3009
02:49:33,159 --> 02:49:35,479
to say the least. Ac Slater want to thank you

3010
02:49:35,600 --> 02:49:37,479
very much for the increase to the mote tier. We

3011
02:49:37,520 --> 02:49:39,440
really appreciate all that support. I want to give a

3012
02:49:39,479 --> 02:49:42,520
big shout out to Andy. Andy put a book out.

3013
02:49:42,559 --> 02:49:44,959
We talk about how one of our proudest moments is

3014
02:49:45,159 --> 02:49:47,399
t left coach. Heers just when we inspire folks to

3015
02:49:47,440 --> 02:49:50,440
create and he read it. He says, about a month ago,

3016
02:49:50,639 --> 02:49:51,959
sent you a link to a book you inspired me

3017
02:49:52,000 --> 02:49:54,879
to put together. It's called slantastic stupidity, The Unknown Critics

3018
02:49:54,879 --> 02:49:58,360
blistering commentary on Pro Wrestling's one one hundred most outrageous gimmicks,

3019
02:49:58,600 --> 02:50:00,440
and upon publishing the book, I quickly you realize that

3020
02:50:00,440 --> 02:50:02,479
while yes, I did dedicate the book to the lapsed fan,

3021
02:50:02,559 --> 02:50:05,680
hell yeah, that one sentence line was not nearly sufficient

3022
02:50:05,760 --> 02:50:07,879
enough to show proper gratitude to the cast. In the

3023
02:50:07,920 --> 02:50:10,159
years of enjoyment it has given me, I still remember

3024
02:50:10,200 --> 02:50:11,920
almost losing it on a flight to Des Moines while

3025
02:50:11,920 --> 02:50:15,120
listening to JP's run Gan imitation during the Ahwa Journey,

3026
02:50:15,680 --> 02:50:17,319
or spinning up my protein drink at the gym wall

3027
02:50:17,360 --> 02:50:20,239
you hilariously dissected the fall of WCCW, or that last

3028
02:50:20,280 --> 02:50:22,959
Colisseum home video, or JP's Andre the Giant Impression, which

3029
02:50:22,959 --> 02:50:25,200
always gets me. Moments like these and many more deserve

3030
02:50:25,280 --> 02:50:27,639
much more thoughtful recognition and book form, which brings me

3031
02:50:27,719 --> 02:50:29,840
in my latest project, the eleventh book in the series,

3032
02:50:29,879 --> 02:50:33,600
called The Unknown Critic presents Enhancement Talent, a glorious tribute

3033
02:50:33,639 --> 02:50:36,959
to Pro Wrestling's job guys and mike men, historical comedy

3034
02:50:37,000 --> 02:50:40,479
book profiling over one hundred jobbers and thirty commentators, many

3035
02:50:40,520 --> 02:50:42,280
well probably all of whom you have roasted on the

3036
02:50:42,280 --> 02:50:44,200
show in one way or another. In this book, I

3037
02:50:44,200 --> 02:50:46,840
built in an expanded mini book midbook chapter called the

3038
02:50:46,920 --> 02:50:51,680
Lapsed Legends, How the Lapsed Fan Podcast enhances wrestlers forgotten stories,

3039
02:50:51,920 --> 02:50:54,680
weaving in the overall theme of talent enhancement, and how

3040
02:50:54,719 --> 02:50:57,000
the cast does this like no other. I also reference

3041
02:50:57,040 --> 02:50:58,879
the cast in a number of other parts of the book,

3042
02:50:58,879 --> 02:51:01,719
because really, this book book, more than Slantastic Stupidity, is

3043
02:51:01,760 --> 02:51:04,520
the definitive work on wrestling Jobbers, a true love letter

3044
02:51:04,520 --> 02:51:07,319
to the lost art of jobbing, something now mostly forgotten

3045
02:51:07,319 --> 02:51:09,559
in a Neira gone by, never to return. No other

3046
02:51:09,559 --> 02:51:13,879
podcast aside from yours, even mentions jobbing, hence included. Including

3047
02:51:13,879 --> 02:51:16,719
a lapsed fan tribute in this one was a no brainer.

3048
02:51:17,559 --> 02:51:19,200
So there you go. Is there an audience for this

3049
02:51:19,200 --> 02:51:22,600
book outside of the TLF solar system. Highly unlikely, as

3050
02:51:22,639 --> 02:51:27,200
girl La Monsoon might say, I've sold highly unlikely, brain,

3051
02:51:27,399 --> 02:51:30,959
Oh my god. Unless there is a that's perfect, that's

3052
02:51:31,000 --> 02:51:34,040
exactly what he's going for. Unless there's an audience somewhere

3053
02:51:34,079 --> 02:51:36,399
curious about the career arcs of guys like Jerry Monty,

3054
02:51:36,760 --> 02:51:40,079
Italian Stallion, Bob Cook and other Legends of Laying Down.

3055
02:51:40,159 --> 02:51:42,799
It will probably get lost in the Amazon shuffle. I frankly,

3056
02:51:42,840 --> 02:51:44,719
I don't care, though, because it was so damn fun

3057
02:51:44,760 --> 02:51:47,000
to put together, and it gives proper praise to the

3058
02:51:47,040 --> 02:51:49,079
Lapsed Fan. It's the kind of book I would want

3059
02:51:49,079 --> 02:51:50,680
to read as a fan of wrestling in the eighties,

3060
02:51:50,799 --> 02:51:52,520
as many, if not all, of the job guys I

3061
02:51:52,559 --> 02:51:54,799
put in the book are more interesting than today's main

3062
02:51:54,840 --> 02:51:57,319
event talent. And some of these jobbers even wrote books

3063
02:51:57,360 --> 02:51:59,520
that you might want to hunt down for additional cast fodder.

3064
02:52:00,040 --> 02:52:03,280
Speaker 3: Hope, hope he did a tribute to Philipolo Philip.

3065
02:52:03,319 --> 02:52:05,440
Speaker 2: Maybe he's in there. I can't say for sure, but

3066
02:52:05,520 --> 02:52:10,559
we definitely appreciate the acknowledgment that the Lapsed Fan provides

3067
02:52:10,959 --> 02:52:13,799
fuel to so many wrestling fires out there. And Andy,

3068
02:52:14,239 --> 02:52:15,959
best of luck with the book, and we hope that

3069
02:52:16,159 --> 02:52:18,879
by flagging it here for the Solar System we get

3070
02:52:18,879 --> 02:52:21,680
some eyeballs on it. Gordon wants us to know I

3071
02:52:21,879 --> 02:52:25,440
was absolutely hysterical, my god, he writes, I was in

3072
02:52:25,479 --> 02:52:27,840
the gym trying to work out with TLF in my ears,

3073
02:52:28,280 --> 02:52:34,760
Dusty finding crumbs in his folds. Dusty has more rolls

3074
02:52:34,799 --> 02:52:41,680
than Ben Dusty folds eighty Dusty's mammary glands. He sweats

3075
02:52:41,760 --> 02:52:46,520
chicken stock, bringing out his arm over a pot.

3076
02:52:48,079 --> 02:52:50,920
Speaker 3: Let's imagine, you know, the the flabby you know, he's

3077
02:52:50,959 --> 02:52:53,840
got like flabby arms. Come on and just stop hangs

3078
02:52:53,879 --> 02:52:56,600
around there and it's like the you know, rip drip drips.

3079
02:52:56,840 --> 02:53:00,520
Oh Christ, you know you have to he likes to.

3080
02:53:00,639 --> 02:53:03,760
He likes to hang his arm over a pot so

3081
02:53:03,799 --> 02:53:05,239
he can just drip the chicken stock.

3082
02:53:05,319 --> 02:53:08,000
Speaker 2: Well, it says right here, ladling hot tub soup because

3083
02:53:08,000 --> 02:53:11,639
he being oh good lord, it just kept going. I

3084
02:53:11,680 --> 02:53:15,079
had take a five minute break. Amazing work. Keep it up.

3085
02:53:15,120 --> 02:53:19,200
That's the brilliance, Gordon, is that's considered work, you know, yes, right,

3086
02:53:19,239 --> 02:53:22,280
if that's good work, and then let it lung continue, Yeah, exactly.

3087
02:53:22,360 --> 02:53:25,520
I want to thank the anonymous gentleman who joined the

3088
02:53:25,559 --> 02:53:28,600
executive producer tear We see You. Rob wants us to

3089
02:53:28,639 --> 02:53:30,120
know whether it used to be a production assistant. At

3090
02:53:30,120 --> 02:53:33,239
the Pittsburgh Steelers game. He mostly did nothing during the

3091
02:53:33,239 --> 02:53:35,000
game itself, but got to listen to the booth in

3092
02:53:35,000 --> 02:53:37,680
the headsets. This is part of our discussion around adding

3093
02:53:37,760 --> 02:53:40,600
crowdsweetening noise and how it's such a pro wrestling trick.

3094
02:53:40,639 --> 02:53:42,719
But of course it's not, of course not. Of course,

3095
02:53:42,760 --> 02:53:46,639
the whole world resembles pro wrestling way more than we realize. Yes,

3096
02:53:46,799 --> 02:53:48,959
Rob writes, if the crowd was down, they'd be like

3097
02:53:49,120 --> 02:53:51,200
throw the noise meter or whatever their version of it

3098
02:53:51,280 --> 02:53:53,079
was called up there, And I don't know if it

3099
02:53:53,120 --> 02:53:54,959
was a shoot, but there would be times where it

3100
02:53:55,079 --> 02:53:56,799
didn't peak at the end. This is where they show

3101
02:53:56,879 --> 02:53:59,440
that little uh thing in the corner during WWP at

3102
02:53:59,520 --> 02:54:02,399
least so stupid still, they pretty much just never wanted

3103
02:54:02,399 --> 02:54:04,760
a second of dead air. So that's why you do it,

3104
02:54:04,799 --> 02:54:07,040
is to get the crowd up during moments where they're

3105
02:54:07,120 --> 02:54:09,120
kind of down. I say, wdwe doesn't really use it

3106
02:54:09,120 --> 02:54:10,879
that way. They don't like show it when people are

3107
02:54:10,959 --> 02:54:14,000
being quiet. But it is funny and interesting to me,

3108
02:54:14,440 --> 02:54:20,120
how how gotten to even NFL franchises are about a

3109
02:54:20,200 --> 02:54:23,319
lack of appropriate enthusiasm Like who cares? Exactly? Why do

3110
02:54:23,360 --> 02:54:24,879
they care? Why does it even cross their mind?

3111
02:54:24,959 --> 02:54:27,959
Speaker 3: Like if it's good, it's a good game, Like isn't

3112
02:54:28,000 --> 02:54:30,680
that what fucking matters? Like, Oh, we're producing entertainment show

3113
02:54:30,719 --> 02:54:31,319
in a lot of ways.

3114
02:54:31,479 --> 02:54:32,159
Speaker 2: No, you're not.

3115
02:54:32,639 --> 02:54:35,879
Speaker 3: No, stop you know what when I'm when I'm watching

3116
02:54:35,920 --> 02:54:39,120
a football game, I don't care about the crowd there.

3117
02:54:39,200 --> 02:54:41,079
I care about the Patriots winning.

3118
02:54:41,280 --> 02:54:42,840
Speaker 2: It is true, though, when I watched when I watch

3119
02:54:42,879 --> 02:54:44,959
an NFL Sunday game, like, there is this kind of

3120
02:54:45,000 --> 02:54:48,280
phony sound the whole time, it's like an echoey and

3121
02:54:48,319 --> 02:54:50,159
I always just chalk that up to the you know,

3122
02:54:50,200 --> 02:54:52,920
the structure and nature of NFL stadiums. But I could

3123
02:54:52,920 --> 02:54:55,600
also see a lot of it being just like totally forced.

3124
02:54:55,639 --> 02:54:58,120
And I'm not suggesting they put fake crowd noise in there,

3125
02:54:58,159 --> 02:55:00,719
but the idea that they have to like rile the

3126
02:55:00,760 --> 02:55:02,920
crowd up for the television cameras and not for the team.

3127
02:55:02,959 --> 02:55:06,319
It's kind of weird, but it happens. Sam wants us

3128
02:55:06,319 --> 02:55:08,360
to know that Bullion of the Woods had him in

3129
02:55:08,399 --> 02:55:12,440
tears going down the freeway. Damien Thorn, thank you very

3130
02:55:12,520 --> 02:55:13,920
much for your executive pure.

3131
02:55:13,920 --> 02:55:15,280
Speaker 3: You're ready for this, by the way, you know, you

3132
02:55:15,319 --> 02:55:18,680
know what's you know what it's gonna be excited. Uh

3133
02:55:19,000 --> 02:55:20,719
NFL preseason starts.

3134
02:55:20,559 --> 02:55:26,879
Speaker 2: That's fucking That was part of my question about pumpkin spice. Yep,

3135
02:55:27,040 --> 02:55:31,040
well that's going on now. I'm ready, I'm ready. Give

3136
02:55:31,079 --> 02:55:33,840
it to me William Murphy. Please thank you very much

3137
02:55:33,920 --> 02:55:38,440
for joining the EP tier. Christopher writes me, Man, I'm hungry.

3138
02:55:38,479 --> 02:55:40,639
I can't wait to have lunch. It's gonna be great, boss.

3139
02:55:40,799 --> 02:55:45,079
During the dusty tangent of this episode, sweat and feces

3140
02:55:45,239 --> 02:55:50,239
and denim. Oh because he's fucking Oh because he's eat

3141
02:55:50,280 --> 02:55:56,639
the fucking burritos and droplets of urine O me, Chris Wrights, Well,

3142
02:55:57,239 --> 02:56:00,959
I guess I'm never eating again. Clash the Champions, baby

3143
02:56:01,000 --> 02:56:03,959
find it. No no, no underwear. That's what it was

3144
02:56:04,000 --> 02:56:07,120
because he wears no underwear, doesn't when he just fucking

3145
02:56:07,280 --> 02:56:12,920
freeballing it all right with just just sweaty ass that

3146
02:56:13,040 --> 02:56:15,520
from our coverage of the final WCW Clash of the

3147
02:56:15,600 --> 02:56:19,120
Champions in nineteen ninety six. Slammy Awards eighty six Part two.

3148
02:56:19,200 --> 02:56:21,440
Corey comes in as always with the fact checking the

3149
02:56:21,520 --> 02:56:24,040
masked wrestler in the Land of a Thousand Dances mister

3150
02:56:24,319 --> 02:56:26,239
X the you know the music video that they produced

3151
02:56:26,239 --> 02:56:27,079
for the wrestling.

3152
02:56:26,719 --> 02:56:28,040
Speaker 3: Album Yeah Stupid.

3153
02:56:28,159 --> 02:56:29,840
Speaker 2: Yes, he wants us know that was none other than

3154
02:56:29,920 --> 02:56:33,520
Danny Davis and Bear. Dario is also in the heel

3155
02:56:33,559 --> 02:56:36,520
crowd for long, and he also points out that we

3156
02:56:36,600 --> 02:56:38,719
credited George Wells as being in the video, but that

3157
02:56:38,840 --> 02:56:41,639
was actually special Delivery Jones. So there you go.

3158
02:56:41,840 --> 02:56:42,600
Speaker 3: Wow. Okay.

3159
02:56:43,559 --> 02:56:47,840
Speaker 2: For the sake of clarification, Rob asks, how is Dragon

3160
02:56:48,680 --> 02:56:50,840
the part of Ultimo Dragon's name that Dusty had a

3161
02:56:50,879 --> 02:56:51,879
hard time saying.

3162
02:56:52,959 --> 02:56:57,520
Speaker 3: Dragone because he likes to drag on.

3163
02:56:57,600 --> 02:57:03,399
Speaker 2: Right, That's for sure? Is absolutely case, Pap writes. Boss

3164
02:57:03,399 --> 02:57:06,040
said Mickey Rooney instead of Mickey Wark when talking about

3165
02:57:06,079 --> 02:57:09,360
slinging egg salad? Did I say, Mickey, it's funny and

3166
02:57:09,399 --> 02:57:11,120
that metal image is funny to me on a level

3167
02:57:11,120 --> 02:57:12,120
that is indescribable.

3168
02:57:13,319 --> 02:57:18,040
Speaker 3: Mickey Rooney eggs salad is a great visual honestly, because

3169
02:57:18,040 --> 02:57:23,200
I picture I picture cranky Mickey Rooney from uh like

3170
02:57:23,319 --> 02:57:27,360
Night of the Museum, Yes, where he's just fucking miserable

3171
02:57:27,399 --> 02:57:32,959
and just that's and fucking throwing eggs salad at it

3172
02:57:33,479 --> 02:57:34,959
at different customers.

3173
02:57:35,879 --> 02:57:37,680
Speaker 2: Of course, that final Clash of the Champion episode was

3174
02:57:37,680 --> 02:57:39,799
a tribute to Steve Manga McMichael, who just passed away,

3175
02:57:39,840 --> 02:57:41,399
and he wins the US title on that show. I'm

3176
02:57:41,399 --> 02:57:43,840
pretty much as crowning pro wrestling achievement such as it was,

3177
02:57:44,520 --> 02:57:46,959
and the homie butt stuff and Heenan wanted us to

3178
02:57:46,959 --> 02:57:49,360
know a Patreon. This is why I suggested the show.

3179
02:57:49,399 --> 02:57:51,040
I knew you guys would go above and beyond and

3180
02:57:51,040 --> 02:57:53,280
paying tribute to Mongo. You guys know how to honor

3181
02:57:53,280 --> 02:57:56,040
wrestlers and ways other podcasts don't. I'm not saying that

3182
02:57:56,079 --> 02:57:58,280
to kiss your ass. I mean, Jesus Christ, you spent

3183
02:57:58,520 --> 02:58:00,360
months on cid uty and looked at his life from

3184
02:58:00,360 --> 02:58:02,760
all different angles. Who the fuck else would do that?

3185
02:58:03,120 --> 02:58:04,600
This is why you two are the best at this.

3186
02:58:04,959 --> 02:58:07,360
You do what you do and you don't give a fuck.

3187
02:58:08,840 --> 02:58:12,639
People better, people better anybody. Anybody who's thinking of dying

3188
02:58:12,680 --> 02:58:14,600
in the next like two years, they better fucking put

3189
02:58:14,600 --> 02:58:16,600
a halt on that, right, because that's going to be

3190
02:58:16,639 --> 02:58:21,319
a sore disappointment. Yep, We've got a big fish to fry, brother,

3191
02:58:22,239 --> 02:58:23,840
and I don't know when that thing's going to be

3192
02:58:24,120 --> 02:58:29,000
ready for consumption. Logan's just realizing Blazing Saddles could count

3193
02:58:29,079 --> 02:58:32,040
for under the cinemat because of Steve McMichael. He got

3194
02:58:32,079 --> 02:58:34,079
the nickname Mango from a character in the movie.

3195
02:58:34,600 --> 02:58:38,079
Speaker 3: Interesting. Well, it qualifies anyway.

3196
02:58:38,479 --> 02:58:42,520
Speaker 2: Because Alex Carris, Because Alex Carris, So that's taking care

3197
02:58:42,520 --> 02:58:45,399
of it's there, Brian Blake. Actually it was quick to

3198
02:58:45,399 --> 02:58:47,159
point that out, and so I'm glad you did as well.

3199
02:58:49,920 --> 02:58:53,600
You know, Alex Carris Jesus Christ to a whole series

3200
02:58:53,639 --> 02:58:59,120
on the fucking Webster TV series. Oh Webster, I remember Webster. Yeah,

3201
02:58:59,239 --> 02:59:03,879
I fascinating because he was the dad on that. Oh

3202
02:59:04,000 --> 02:59:12,000
my god, you talk to dad. We did the Final

3203
02:59:12,040 --> 02:59:13,399
Class show. That was the show where you know, the

3204
02:59:13,479 --> 02:59:15,440
nWo comes in the ring and stings crow Lands on

3205
02:59:15,479 --> 02:59:17,879
the ropes. Jeff writes, as a teenager, I think this

3206
02:59:18,000 --> 02:59:19,680
was the turning point that really made me question the

3207
02:59:19,680 --> 02:59:22,120
point of the obnoxious nWo gimmick, which is getting pretty

3208
02:59:22,159 --> 02:59:24,120
lame now. But I figured, well, I suppose it'll be

3209
02:59:24,120 --> 02:59:26,600
worth it when they get there as such youthful naivete

3210
02:59:26,840 --> 02:59:29,360
Maybe that's what we're all nostalgic for a time when

3211
02:59:29,399 --> 02:59:31,680
we didn't know any better, and being hugely disappointed was

3212
02:59:31,680 --> 02:59:37,239
the exception, not the norm. M Nicholas Chiaparra, thanks very

3213
02:59:37,319 --> 02:59:40,200
much for your increase in pledge. Matthew Muns always appreciate

3214
02:59:40,239 --> 02:59:43,200
your support on Patreon. Matthew of Madison want to thank

3215
02:59:43,239 --> 02:59:45,959
you for joining the Executive producer ter Brie wants us

3216
02:59:46,000 --> 02:59:50,200
to know TLF outlived the real WWE network concept. That's

3217
02:59:50,200 --> 02:59:53,799
pretty wild. Wow, not truth, that is pretty wild. Bruno,

3218
02:59:53,840 --> 02:59:55,760
thank you very much for your cake. We appreciate it.

3219
02:59:55,799 --> 02:59:57,879
Same to you, Brandon Davis and Jeff, thank you for

3220
02:59:57,920 --> 03:00:02,239
that recent increase in pledge. Neil. Notice out there in

3221
03:00:02,239 --> 03:00:05,040
the wild, we gave some some shout outs, some nods

3222
03:00:05,040 --> 03:00:07,799
of respect to the ww Vault. Earlier, he found an

3223
03:00:07,879 --> 03:00:09,559
article on the Verge with a quote that says this,

3224
03:00:09,959 --> 03:00:12,639
like WWE's primary YouTube channel, some videos posted to the

3225
03:00:12,719 --> 03:00:20,000
Vault will eventually disappear. Why exactly? And that's where you

3226
03:00:20,079 --> 03:00:23,600
lose me. Whatever exclusivity you think is in there, whatever

3227
03:00:23,639 --> 03:00:25,440
you think you can sell or whatever the fuck like,

3228
03:00:25,719 --> 03:00:27,920
there needs to be a permanent home where we as

3229
03:00:27,959 --> 03:00:30,600
fans can know we have access. And I'm not just

3230
03:00:30,639 --> 03:00:32,559
saying that because we do a podcast blah blah blah. No,

3231
03:00:32,920 --> 03:00:34,680
I'm saying that because that's where the money is for

3232
03:00:34,719 --> 03:00:38,159
you guys and for everybody, is having people pony up

3233
03:00:38,159 --> 03:00:41,239
to have access to the Vault, irrespective of what other

3234
03:00:41,360 --> 03:00:44,520
side deals you might cut to license it out. The

3235
03:00:44,600 --> 03:00:47,000
Vault does not need to be exclusive. The Vault is not,

3236
03:00:48,159 --> 03:00:50,840
you know, the streaming service should not care that there's

3237
03:00:50,840 --> 03:00:52,559
more than one way to get the archives, if the

3238
03:00:52,680 --> 03:00:54,959
archives are such an afterthought like you always seem to

3239
03:00:55,000 --> 03:00:58,799
tell us they are, right, right, If nobody subscribes to

3240
03:00:58,799 --> 03:01:00,799
Peacock or the network for the old old stuff, and

3241
03:01:00,840 --> 03:01:03,239
nobody watches the old stuff, then why does that stuff

3242
03:01:03,280 --> 03:01:06,239
need to be exclusive and shopped around as an exclusive

3243
03:01:06,239 --> 03:01:08,399
packaged all the platforms? Why can't it be in three

3244
03:01:08,399 --> 03:01:09,200
places at once?

3245
03:01:09,559 --> 03:01:09,760
Speaker 3: Right?

3246
03:01:10,159 --> 03:01:12,559
Speaker 2: Why can it be on Peacock and Netflix? Exactly?

3247
03:01:12,600 --> 03:01:13,440
Speaker 3: If nobody cares?

3248
03:01:13,479 --> 03:01:18,559
Speaker 2: Exactly, give me a fucking break. Now, Now, when when

3249
03:01:18,680 --> 03:01:21,440
is When is the Peacock thing shutting down? I don't know.

3250
03:01:21,520 --> 03:01:24,040
I mean that they're in negotiations soon. I think it's

3251
03:01:24,120 --> 03:01:27,280
up in twenty twenty six, the deal, so we'll see.

3252
03:01:27,600 --> 03:01:30,120
I mean, who takes the pay per views? You know?

3253
03:01:30,239 --> 03:01:31,360
How does that shake out?

3254
03:01:31,680 --> 03:01:31,840
Speaker 3: Right?

3255
03:01:31,920 --> 03:01:33,239
Speaker 2: Does Netflix go for it?

3256
03:01:33,399 --> 03:01:40,120
Speaker 3: But and then isn't uh isn't what happens to the

3257
03:01:40,559 --> 03:01:41,680
you know, the archive?

3258
03:01:42,399 --> 03:01:46,079
Speaker 2: Im That's what I personally read in the ramping up

3259
03:01:46,120 --> 03:01:49,079
of this vault thing. Yeah, was them just basically saying

3260
03:01:49,079 --> 03:01:50,639
we'll just put it all on YouTube, which I think

3261
03:01:50,680 --> 03:01:53,319
is brilliant. I think it's a great idea and YouTube

3262
03:01:53,319 --> 03:01:55,799
has now structured such that you can have our subscription

3263
03:01:55,879 --> 03:01:58,520
to see it. The thing is, though, what I'm we're

3264
03:01:58,559 --> 03:02:03,479
so annoying though about it is and what I do listen,

3265
03:02:03,520 --> 03:02:04,680
I do love it. I do.

3266
03:02:04,840 --> 03:02:09,799
Speaker 3: I love the archive, but they don't put on enough

3267
03:02:09,879 --> 03:02:12,319
full things. I don't I don't know. I just I

3268
03:02:12,360 --> 03:02:15,760
don't care about matches nibbling at the edges. I wish

3269
03:02:15,760 --> 03:02:19,680
they would never. I wish they would stop putting matches

3270
03:02:19,760 --> 03:02:23,159
up there like that to me is not interesting, Like

3271
03:02:23,399 --> 03:02:27,479
I mean, I know interesting right like this, like the

3272
03:02:27,520 --> 03:02:29,600
Sunday Night Slam thing they put up there, like that's

3273
03:02:29,719 --> 03:02:34,360
fucking amazing. Put those up, you know, like those are

3274
03:02:34,399 --> 03:02:35,879
things that you're not going to be able to find,

3275
03:02:36,120 --> 03:02:39,520
you know, not don't necessarily put up every single WrestleMania

3276
03:02:39,879 --> 03:02:43,079
yet until we can't get it anymore. But like put

3277
03:02:43,159 --> 03:02:45,520
up put up these random things that they didn't they

3278
03:02:45,559 --> 03:02:48,879
never put up on the on the network, you know,

3279
03:02:49,040 --> 03:02:51,600
home videos and and but like I don't care about

3280
03:02:51,600 --> 03:02:58,040
these matches, like I don't care about fucking you know,

3281
03:02:59,600 --> 03:03:02,680
Steve in RNL and Neville over else start us and

3282
03:03:02,799 --> 03:03:07,479
King Barrett. Yeah a summer twenty fifteen, I don't care.

3283
03:03:08,079 --> 03:03:11,520
Speaker 2: Now they you know, as much credit as we give them,

3284
03:03:12,200 --> 03:03:15,399
they still haven't taken the most basic suggestion, which is

3285
03:03:16,000 --> 03:03:19,719
you have to do chronologically complete years. You have to,

3286
03:03:20,200 --> 03:03:22,120
there's no other way to do it and maximize the

3287
03:03:22,200 --> 03:03:26,200
value of that content. You have to be the viewer.

3288
03:03:26,600 --> 03:03:29,639
The customer has to be able to say, here's everything

3289
03:03:29,680 --> 03:03:32,639
in the network from nineteen eighty four across all promotions.

3290
03:03:32,959 --> 03:03:33,719
Speaker 3: I agree.

3291
03:03:34,000 --> 03:03:35,959
Speaker 2: It used to be somewhat structured like that in the

3292
03:03:35,959 --> 03:03:38,120
network days, though. You had to go collection to collection,

3293
03:03:38,159 --> 03:03:40,200
which was, you know, not ideal, but that's what you

3294
03:03:40,239 --> 03:03:42,280
have to do. And any other way you want to

3295
03:03:42,360 --> 03:03:44,680
chop and dice it up to make it all bite

3296
03:03:44,719 --> 03:03:47,760
sized social content, jerk me off, whatever the fuck, you

3297
03:03:47,760 --> 03:03:50,319
can go and do that, but the whole show has

3298
03:03:50,360 --> 03:03:52,399
to rest somewhere if you really want to make the

3299
03:03:52,399 --> 03:03:55,959
most money you can off this thing. And I'm not

3300
03:03:56,000 --> 03:03:58,639
going to accept anything less. Yep, I'm not going to

3301
03:03:58,680 --> 03:04:02,000
pretend these half measures from the are the full measure

3302
03:04:02,200 --> 03:04:05,440
because we had it already. We had the full access

3303
03:04:05,520 --> 03:04:08,479
to just about everything they had. So don't tell me

3304
03:04:08,520 --> 03:04:11,000
it's not possible and not worth it. You already did it.

3305
03:04:11,000 --> 03:04:14,159
It's there. It's done, it's digitized. Where is it? Where

3306
03:04:14,200 --> 03:04:16,280
is it? And why is it at my fingertips right now?

3307
03:04:17,920 --> 03:04:21,239
God damn assholes, It also says in this Verge article,

3308
03:04:21,239 --> 03:04:23,159
as John Cena continues his final year of entering action

3309
03:04:23,280 --> 03:04:25,000
for the company, a collection like the one below is

3310
03:04:25,000 --> 03:04:27,680
guaranteed to rack up views. The edit is really raw

3311
03:04:27,719 --> 03:04:30,399
and it's not a full in and out of each moment.

3312
03:04:30,840 --> 03:04:33,280
Bray Band said, this is brave. Band must be someone involved.

3313
03:04:33,440 --> 03:04:35,000
So we're hoping that sits on the channel for a

3314
03:04:35,040 --> 03:04:37,879
while as Sena does this last run. So which videos,

3315
03:04:37,959 --> 03:04:45,159
Neil asks will disappear? Brother, Yeah, exactly, exactly, yep. Amard

3316
03:04:45,239 --> 03:04:47,079
asks wanted to post a question of the co chairs

3317
03:04:47,079 --> 03:04:51,360
in the community. Has Roman now surpassed Sina? That's what

3318
03:04:52,120 --> 03:04:57,719
in terms of impact stardom um? He says, there's a

3319
03:04:57,760 --> 03:04:59,159
lot of kids whow up in the two thousands who

3320
03:04:59,159 --> 03:05:01,239
think seen as the goat, which is a nonsensical opinion.

3321
03:05:01,360 --> 03:05:02,760
The hill turn was way too late, and I'm sure

3322
03:05:02,799 --> 03:05:05,079
we can blame Vince for that. Up until about twenty ten,

3323
03:05:05,079 --> 03:05:06,879
when Seena had built enough equity to insist in the

3324
03:05:06,920 --> 03:05:09,120
heel turn, he was just too much of a yes man. Roman,

3325
03:05:09,159 --> 03:05:11,120
on the other hand, told Vince, if you don't turn

3326
03:05:11,159 --> 03:05:13,120
me heel, I'm done, and then went on to have

3327
03:05:13,399 --> 03:05:15,120
a run for the ages. In my opinion, he has

3328
03:05:15,159 --> 03:05:17,399
now surpassed Sena or he definitely will when all of

3329
03:05:17,399 --> 03:05:22,799
a sudden done. What say you, folks, Uh, it's hard

3330
03:05:22,840 --> 03:05:30,920
to say because Sina Sena has had such longevity and.

3331
03:05:33,079 --> 03:05:37,879
Speaker 3: You know, was God. I mean I would. I would.

3332
03:05:40,520 --> 03:05:45,159
Speaker 2: Wager that he has main evented more pay per views

3333
03:05:45,159 --> 03:05:49,799
than anybody yep at this point. Yeah, just there was

3334
03:05:49,959 --> 03:05:51,440
that many more to man event.

3335
03:05:51,760 --> 03:06:01,719
Speaker 3: I know, And but I don't like Roman. Yeah, I

3336
03:06:01,760 --> 03:06:02,040
don't know.

3337
03:06:02,200 --> 03:06:07,239
Speaker 2: My answer to that question is yes, yeah, you yes, surpassed. Yes,

3338
03:06:08,479 --> 03:06:11,680
Roman has surpassed Sena in terms of meaning something to

3339
03:06:11,719 --> 03:06:15,120
the w W audience. I'm not saying that on every

3340
03:06:15,159 --> 03:06:21,000
measure Roman outpaces Sena, but Roman made it matter almost

3341
03:06:21,440 --> 03:06:24,079
two times as much as Johnson made it matter.

3342
03:06:24,600 --> 03:06:27,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, I guess. Yeah. You know, when when

3343
03:06:27,600 --> 03:06:31,959
push comes to shove, like Roman, Roman knew what he

3344
03:06:31,959 --> 03:06:37,639
could do. Roman knew that he didn't need to be

3345
03:06:37,719 --> 03:06:41,319
hated like legitimately hated by people. He knew that he

3346
03:06:41,360 --> 03:06:45,040
could do something that meant something, and he.

3347
03:06:45,280 --> 03:06:47,799
Speaker 2: Know what he is. Did it He's a better professional

3348
03:06:47,840 --> 03:06:49,200
wrestler than John cena Is.

3349
03:06:49,479 --> 03:06:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

3350
03:06:50,159 --> 03:06:52,840
Speaker 2: And that was the question, and so that's my answer.

3351
03:06:53,200 --> 03:06:54,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you. I agree with you.

3352
03:06:54,879 --> 03:06:58,600
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about his run made more money overall, more transformational,

3353
03:07:00,079 --> 03:07:03,120
he was more fascinating to watch, more is stickier. He

3354
03:07:03,239 --> 03:07:08,559
made all kinds of people, mostly a relatives, and he

3355
03:07:08,920 --> 03:07:12,959
just made made it you feel locked in like you

3356
03:07:13,000 --> 03:07:16,840
were watching a great be great With Sina, it was

3357
03:07:16,959 --> 03:07:18,600
like you were watching a guy who's going to be

3358
03:07:18,639 --> 03:07:22,200
remembered as great, kind of be somewhat less than great

3359
03:07:22,479 --> 03:07:24,760
in any given moment, but you look at the totality

3360
03:07:24,760 --> 03:07:27,239
and you realize there was greatness there. But night in

3361
03:07:27,239 --> 03:07:28,559
and night out, it didn't feel great.

3362
03:07:29,120 --> 03:07:33,280
Speaker 3: But it's a weird thing now because because you know,

3363
03:07:33,399 --> 03:07:37,440
there are people who when they became fans, he was

3364
03:07:37,520 --> 03:07:40,319
the guy, right, and so it's a very it's a

3365
03:07:40,479 --> 03:07:42,959
very you know he like that. We've heard that he

3366
03:07:43,079 --> 03:07:47,600
was their Hulk Hogan And how do you it's tough

3367
03:07:47,600 --> 03:07:49,799
to deal with. It's it's a very tough. It's tough

3368
03:07:49,840 --> 03:07:53,440
to deal with, but it's also tough to kind of analyze,

3369
03:07:53,520 --> 03:07:56,639
like how do you we as wrestling fans who have

3370
03:07:56,680 --> 03:08:00,760
been fans since, you know, for you know, thirty plus years,

3371
03:08:01,600 --> 03:08:05,120
we've seen more evolution in the business than people who

3372
03:08:05,120 --> 03:08:09,159
started watching when they were kids in two thousand and six,

3373
03:08:09,680 --> 03:08:14,760
seven whatever, and started watching during the peak of John

3374
03:08:14,799 --> 03:08:15,559
Cena's years.

3375
03:08:16,000 --> 03:08:20,479
Speaker 2: And it's like and it's it's hilarious because they've seen

3376
03:08:20,639 --> 03:08:24,319
very little evolution of the business. Yes, they've seen very

3377
03:08:24,319 --> 03:08:27,639
little change. Oh Sena. Sena's run is chiefly characterized by

3378
03:08:27,719 --> 03:08:31,239
WWE running in place. From an evolution standpoint, there was

3379
03:08:31,280 --> 03:08:36,239
absolutely nothing that changed about their presentation during his run,

3380
03:08:36,399 --> 03:08:39,600
right right. He redressed the set every two years, you know,

3381
03:08:39,760 --> 03:08:43,520
and that was it added to new camera tricks. But

3382
03:08:43,559 --> 03:08:46,520
it was so Vince was so patterned by that point,

3383
03:08:46,799 --> 03:08:49,479
so patterned, and you know, it wasn't all bad. There

3384
03:08:49,520 --> 03:08:52,440
were patterns that were good that helped them peak. WrestleMania's

3385
03:08:52,399 --> 03:08:55,520
pretty brilliantly through that whole time. But my god, there

3386
03:08:55,559 --> 03:08:57,440
is nothing you could point to that it was like wow.

3387
03:08:58,200 --> 03:09:00,639
Before John Cena it was like this, and after John

3388
03:09:00,680 --> 03:09:02,600
Cena was like this, Like no, it's all pretty much

3389
03:09:02,600 --> 03:09:04,920
the same as when he first got belted up and

3390
03:09:05,239 --> 03:09:07,680
became the guy that you know, took up all the

3391
03:09:07,680 --> 03:09:10,000
oxygen Sina was. You know, he's just too cringe to

3392
03:09:10,079 --> 03:09:13,719
any times. And Roman was cringed too when they were putty.

3393
03:09:13,799 --> 03:09:14,840
So I'm not blaming Sena.

3394
03:09:15,040 --> 03:09:16,680
Speaker 3: But but but you know what, But the thing is,

3395
03:09:16,719 --> 03:09:23,959
though I don't think see Roman wasn't cringe. Roman was

3396
03:09:24,000 --> 03:09:28,040
made to be, so is John. Yeah, but John Cena, John,

3397
03:09:28,879 --> 03:09:32,680
But look at Scena. Though Sena has the Sena right

3398
03:09:32,760 --> 03:09:37,840
now has the ability to not be cringe, and he's

3399
03:09:37,840 --> 03:09:42,399
still cringe. So I don't know if that's true or not.

3400
03:09:43,559 --> 03:09:45,440
I mean, I think, yes, he was given that, but

3401
03:09:45,479 --> 03:09:49,040
I think he chose, he chose to not.

3402
03:09:49,719 --> 03:09:53,520
Speaker 2: He's irredeemably been altered. Yeah. Yeah, that the Sena who

3403
03:09:53,600 --> 03:09:56,440
wasn't cringe that we had before he became the superhero,

3404
03:09:56,520 --> 03:09:58,920
you know, the dug anomics, John Cena. We know we

3405
03:09:58,959 --> 03:10:01,079
can go back to that. But he doesn't.

3406
03:10:01,639 --> 03:10:02,399
Speaker 3: He chooses not.

3407
03:10:02,520 --> 03:10:03,239
Speaker 2: He has the power to.

3408
03:10:04,079 --> 03:10:07,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's that's what's there.

3409
03:10:07,360 --> 03:10:09,360
Speaker 2: I think the he'll run decides it. Roman turns heel,

3410
03:10:09,440 --> 03:10:11,159
lights the business on fire, creates some of the most

3411
03:10:11,200 --> 03:10:13,639
memorable stuff we've seen it in a generation. Scena turns

3412
03:10:13,680 --> 03:10:15,319
heel and all people are doing is wondering when he's

3413
03:10:15,319 --> 03:10:18,639
gonna turn back babyface. That's uh. That says a lot

3414
03:10:18,719 --> 03:10:20,760
right there in terms of who the better pro wrestler

3415
03:10:20,799 --> 03:10:21,479
is between the two.

3416
03:10:22,200 --> 03:10:25,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, and I agree with you.

3417
03:10:25,719 --> 03:10:28,120
Roman is better. Yeah, Roman is better.

3418
03:10:28,239 --> 03:10:31,479
Speaker 2: That's the question, right, that's the answer. Richie has a.

3419
03:10:31,399 --> 03:10:33,200
Speaker 3: Great but I don't but like it was surpassing, what

3420
03:10:33,280 --> 03:10:34,399
is that? I don't even know what it meant. By

3421
03:10:34,399 --> 03:10:35,879
surpassing though, I don't know what.

3422
03:10:35,760 --> 03:10:37,840
Speaker 2: It means either, I can only assume he means in

3423
03:10:38,319 --> 03:10:41,479
terms of going down as an impactful figure in WW history,

3424
03:10:42,079 --> 03:10:46,840
you know, in terms of contributions and impact. And I

3425
03:10:46,920 --> 03:10:49,440
still think Roman gets it, honestly, even if it was

3426
03:10:49,479 --> 03:10:52,360
a shorter period of time, it was much more intense

3427
03:10:53,000 --> 03:10:58,479
than Sina ever managed to create. Yeah, because I've seen it.

3428
03:10:58,520 --> 03:11:00,000
You know, if you give scene as much time as

3429
03:11:00,159 --> 03:11:03,159
Romans got to create that, the lasting impact he would

3430
03:11:03,159 --> 03:11:04,959
have shipped the bed, it would have been a fart

3431
03:11:05,000 --> 03:11:08,120
in church, you know, there wouldn't have been that country

3432
03:11:08,440 --> 03:11:10,559
been true to the Is it true to the the

3433
03:11:10,639 --> 03:11:13,120
kids who grew up watching John Cena as their hull Coche?

3434
03:11:13,319 --> 03:11:15,639
I don't know. I can't speak to that. But I

3435
03:11:15,680 --> 03:11:18,760
watched the whole thing and say what you will. But

3436
03:11:18,920 --> 03:11:21,799
when hul Cogan was those kids hull Cogan, it mattered.

3437
03:11:22,040 --> 03:11:24,440
When John Cena was those that kid's hull Cogan, it

3438
03:11:24,520 --> 03:11:27,360
was cringe shit. And the shows every single week were

3439
03:11:27,360 --> 03:11:30,799
predominantly about how people just were not with Sina, not

3440
03:11:30,920 --> 03:11:32,840
with the presentation. And even though there were kids in

3441
03:11:32,879 --> 03:11:36,360
there trying to shout, you know, out shout the people

3442
03:11:36,360 --> 03:11:38,959
that were creating the reactions that made it into the

3443
03:11:38,959 --> 03:11:42,399
television microphones, that did not happen tohul Cogan until it

3444
03:11:42,440 --> 03:11:44,680
was too late, and that did not happen in the

3445
03:11:44,760 --> 03:11:50,280
reverse way to Roman. Even so, that's what I can say. Yeah,

3446
03:11:50,959 --> 03:11:53,520
Richie says about Russev wondering if you could ask the

3447
03:11:53,520 --> 03:11:56,600
boss man if my idea for av Rusev? Yeah he's back,

3448
03:11:57,879 --> 03:11:58,040
is he?

3449
03:11:58,120 --> 03:11:58,200
Speaker 1: Oh?

3450
03:11:58,280 --> 03:12:00,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he came back like two months ago now. But

3451
03:12:00,280 --> 03:12:02,719
that'll tell you a lot about how I'll tell you

3452
03:12:02,760 --> 03:12:05,000
a lot about how I backtfully has there hasn't been,

3453
03:12:05,239 --> 03:12:07,840
I guess there it is in the come Back to

3454
03:12:07,920 --> 03:12:11,760
us AW repatriation program. Was wondering if you could ask

3455
03:12:11,799 --> 03:12:13,479
the boss man if my idea for a faction name

3456
03:12:13,520 --> 03:12:15,399
would be good. I think the mention of food seals

3457
03:12:15,399 --> 03:12:18,719
it russev should helm an Eastern European faction called Beef

3458
03:12:18,799 --> 03:12:25,200
strong enough. Yes, it's an endorsement, Yes, all right, yep, absolutely.

3459
03:12:25,239 --> 03:12:27,000
I want to give a shout out to the aforementioned

3460
03:12:27,000 --> 03:12:31,559
Ekmard for his generous pledge on Patreon. We hope you enjoy.

3461
03:12:32,120 --> 03:12:34,040
Zach Clark, thank you very much for the cake on

3462
03:12:34,200 --> 03:12:38,079
the tron. Spice boy, appreciate that increase in. Tony Hannon,

3463
03:12:38,120 --> 03:12:41,000
thanks very much for the cake. Chris is out there

3464
03:12:41,000 --> 03:12:43,719
paying close attention. This of course was way before Hulk's passing,

3465
03:12:44,000 --> 03:12:45,520
but he says, what I can tell you with certainty

3466
03:12:45,520 --> 03:12:48,079
about real American freestyle wrestling is that it ends up

3467
03:12:48,120 --> 03:12:52,200
in a fucking hill of litigation and a Peter Teel

3468
03:12:52,280 --> 03:12:54,760
finance pardon for the Hulkster. Well, not so much. Perhaps

3469
03:12:54,840 --> 03:12:58,719
beyond the grave, a cynic might suggest. Hogan and Bischoff, See, yes,

3470
03:12:58,799 --> 03:13:01,680
this whole thing is while the unregulated nial system is

3471
03:13:01,680 --> 03:13:05,280
the last opportunity to get over another for personal gain. Yeah,

3472
03:13:05,319 --> 03:13:08,239
and no reasonable person might foresee this ending, as did

3473
03:13:08,319 --> 03:13:12,719
Houlgan and Bischoff's botched arbitrage foray into European video gambling. Yeah,

3474
03:13:12,760 --> 03:13:15,840
I was ill fated. But let's review today's AP coverage

3475
03:13:15,840 --> 03:13:18,440
and appreciate two matters of scale. First, the extent to

3476
03:13:18,440 --> 03:13:22,239
which is a precise reprise of the TNH scam. Second

3477
03:13:22,280 --> 03:13:25,360
to the sheer scope of physical beating this writer would

3478
03:13:25,399 --> 03:13:27,760
sustain at the hands of the lapsed editor had he

3479
03:13:27,840 --> 03:13:31,040
not recently accepted a buy out from his new VC overlords.

3480
03:13:31,520 --> 03:13:34,680
Hulk Hogan felt. The article reads, the AP article reads.

3481
03:13:34,760 --> 03:13:37,520
Hulk Hogan felt sure he was onto something. The idea

3482
03:13:37,639 --> 03:13:39,360
was so exciting that I get a chance to be

3483
03:13:39,399 --> 03:13:41,799
involved with all these young people and help guide them

3484
03:13:41,840 --> 03:13:43,959
in any way, especially to make them huge stars and

3485
03:13:44,000 --> 03:13:46,479
create a future for them. He said. People might be surprised,

3486
03:13:46,479 --> 03:13:50,120
but wrestling is wrestling. Brother Eric jumped in with both feet,

3487
03:13:50,680 --> 03:13:52,879
and he's doing a lot to guide this ship right now.

3488
03:13:52,920 --> 03:13:56,000
Brother Hogan said, Oh my god, he's setting so much

3489
03:13:56,000 --> 03:13:59,120
stuff up production wise, just moving us forward light years

3490
03:13:59,159 --> 03:14:00,799
ahead of where we would have been on it could

3491
03:14:00,840 --> 03:14:02,799
have been on her own. I see this as an

3492
03:14:02,799 --> 03:14:05,200
opportunity for me to get involved, Hogan said, to get

3493
03:14:05,239 --> 03:14:07,680
back sitting on the couch, to get involved with a

3494
03:14:07,719 --> 03:14:09,799
bunch of powerful athletes that I can relate to as

3495
03:14:09,799 --> 03:14:12,239
far as championship material, guys that are on top of

3496
03:14:12,280 --> 03:14:19,559
their game, and I just I couldn't pass on it nauseated.

3497
03:14:19,079 --> 03:14:21,399
Speaker 3: Chris, could he pass away on it?

3498
03:14:21,680 --> 03:14:24,680
Speaker 2: Yes he did, And I don't know what the return

3499
03:14:24,760 --> 03:14:25,840
is going to be like coming up to the end

3500
03:14:25,840 --> 03:14:28,479
of August for this event. But that is the exact

3501
03:14:29,000 --> 03:14:31,520
thing he used to say in TNA to the exact playbucket.

3502
03:14:31,559 --> 03:14:35,959
Really is my God help us. You and Taylor, thank

3503
03:14:35,959 --> 03:14:40,879
you very much for the pledge. We appreciate it. Okay,

3504
03:14:41,000 --> 03:14:44,399
let's see wrapping up here, dragging Puncher, thank you very

3505
03:14:44,479 --> 03:14:47,600
much for the cake. William wants to know. Wants us

3506
03:14:47,639 --> 03:14:50,399
to know that he was listening while molling his lawn

3507
03:14:50,399 --> 03:14:54,440
this afternoon. His neighbor's daughter was leaving for prom. This

3508
03:14:54,479 --> 03:14:57,719
is while he was listening to Blockers. Oh my god,

3509
03:14:58,159 --> 03:14:59,879
her dad walked her out to the car and stood

3510
03:15:00,079 --> 03:15:03,639
the front yard after she left, almost hyperventilating. And that

3511
03:15:03,760 --> 03:15:06,559
is very much like the John Cena Will Ferrell comedy.

3512
03:15:06,399 --> 03:15:08,879
Speaker 3: Because no, no, not Will Ferrell.

3513
03:15:10,520 --> 03:15:15,360
Speaker 2: John Al Ferrell is the one with what's his face with? Yeah,

3514
03:15:15,360 --> 03:15:18,799
with the fucking rock and Sam Jackson jump off the gud.

3515
03:15:21,120 --> 03:15:24,079
Speaker 3: That's still the greatest fucking thing for honest to God, ever,

3516
03:15:24,159 --> 03:15:27,840
it's such a great it's such a great idea great

3517
03:15:28,040 --> 03:15:32,840
shot and so funny. No, but John Cena and Uh

3518
03:15:32,920 --> 03:15:37,639
Leslie Mann and Ike Ike Uh his name.

3519
03:15:39,879 --> 03:15:45,520
Speaker 2: Exactly, Hike Eisenhower, I think on Frog. Thank you very

3520
03:15:45,600 --> 03:15:50,159
much for your pledge on Patreon. We love it. Christopher

3521
03:15:50,159 --> 03:15:52,040
says you dipped into why Scena comes across the quote

3522
03:15:52,120 --> 03:15:53,879
unquote weird and for a long time I have just

3523
03:15:53,920 --> 03:15:58,799
accepted he likely has o CPD obsessive controlsive compulsive personality disorder.

3524
03:15:59,120 --> 03:16:01,040
Not a bad thing to be a just many observations

3525
03:16:01,040 --> 03:16:02,840
I've made over the years. I find him fascinating as

3526
03:16:02,840 --> 03:16:05,280
a person. I agree he might he might have that.

3527
03:16:06,399 --> 03:16:07,959
I agree. I mean the way he comes off on

3528
03:16:08,040 --> 03:16:09,680
Total Diva is like that. He doesn't even try to

3529
03:16:09,719 --> 03:16:13,120
hide it for the cameras. This big time tell uh

3530
03:16:13,159 --> 03:16:15,760
the enforcer paul'slicky. Thank you very much for your recent

3531
03:16:15,760 --> 03:16:18,040
increase in pledge. We love it. Andrew. We appreciate you

3532
03:16:18,120 --> 03:16:22,239
joining us up there. On the Executive Producer Tier, DJ

3533
03:16:22,280 --> 03:16:24,680
Smittie writes, Hey, chat Sina, what tips can you share?

3534
03:16:24,680 --> 03:16:28,040
That helped you learn how to play piano. Answer. I

3535
03:16:28,200 --> 03:16:30,559
genuinely wanted to learn how to play piano, and then

3536
03:16:30,600 --> 03:16:32,479
I did and I became great at it.

3537
03:16:36,879 --> 03:16:39,799
Speaker 3: Oh he fucking talked about like that.

3538
03:16:41,000 --> 03:16:44,319
Speaker 2: He's that in that interview, in that weird interview where

3539
03:16:44,319 --> 03:16:48,319
he like he you know, oh God, listen to him.

3540
03:16:48,200 --> 03:16:49,520
Speaker 3: Talk is so nice Obvia.

3541
03:16:49,799 --> 03:16:53,840
Speaker 2: So it's you can only take very small doses of it.

3542
03:16:53,840 --> 03:16:58,440
It's so like, you know, he he he acts like

3543
03:16:59,159 --> 03:17:02,239
he acts like the way he.

3544
03:17:04,120 --> 03:17:05,239
Speaker 3: It's it's almost like.

3545
03:17:05,200 --> 03:17:07,159
Speaker 2: He thinks he's dispensing wisdom all the time.

3546
03:17:07,520 --> 03:17:10,399
Speaker 3: Well, well that, but he also comes across like he

3547
03:17:10,479 --> 03:17:14,079
doesn't almost understand, like it's so easy to do this.

3548
03:17:14,639 --> 03:17:16,639
It's so easy to be great things if you just

3549
03:17:16,680 --> 03:17:19,159
do what I do. And it's like, do you understand

3550
03:17:19,239 --> 03:17:23,239
you're crazy? Like you're you're you You're one of those

3551
03:17:23,280 --> 03:17:26,559
people who are just who's insane and can just kind

3552
03:17:26,559 --> 03:17:29,559
of drop whatever they're doing to focus on one thing

3553
03:17:29,680 --> 03:17:32,280
for like three weeks and get great at it. And

3554
03:17:32,360 --> 03:17:35,399
I'm not listening. I'm not criticized. I think that's great.

3555
03:17:36,120 --> 03:17:38,479
I wish more people could be like that, but most

3556
03:17:38,520 --> 03:17:40,959
people aren't like that. He's he's you know what he is,

3557
03:17:41,000 --> 03:17:44,120
he's childless. I mean that that's what Randy or hit

3558
03:17:44,200 --> 03:17:45,879
him with, right well, Andy Orton hit him with that

3559
03:17:45,959 --> 03:17:47,840
on one of the promos leading up their backlash match.

3560
03:17:47,879 --> 03:17:51,479
Speaker 2: And it's the truth, really there, You know, there's no

3561
03:17:52,559 --> 03:17:55,440
We should always be very careful if we want to

3562
03:17:55,600 --> 03:18:00,440
be fathers or mothers in this life, patterning ourselves at all,

3563
03:18:00,559 --> 03:18:05,040
or taking any lifestyle advice or taking or modeling ourselves

3564
03:18:05,040 --> 03:18:07,079
at all after people who don't have kids, because that

3565
03:18:07,200 --> 03:18:08,760
is ninety percent of the reason they are the way

3566
03:18:08,760 --> 03:18:11,879
they are, right right, come on, folks, give me fucking

3567
03:18:12,120 --> 03:18:15,719
I listen, and I you know again, I'm not I don't.

3568
03:18:16,120 --> 03:18:18,680
I think I've said this before. My therapist tells me

3569
03:18:18,760 --> 03:18:23,520
this all the time that she she says that that's

3570
03:18:23,600 --> 03:18:27,200
the last stage of becoming an adult, is having kids,

3571
03:18:27,600 --> 03:18:31,280
and that there are people who don't ever achieve that stage. Yes,

3572
03:18:31,360 --> 03:18:33,639
like you don't actually grow up. Like if you don't

3573
03:18:33,639 --> 03:18:37,399
have kids, you never actually complete growing up. I think

3574
03:18:37,399 --> 03:18:40,000
it's very hard to say you did. Absolutely agree.

3575
03:18:40,200 --> 03:18:45,280
Speaker 3: I think so too, because because because having children requires

3576
03:18:46,360 --> 03:18:51,760
giving up some like releasing so much of what you

3577
03:18:53,559 --> 03:18:56,680
want for yourself. That's right, that's right, in order to

3578
03:18:57,120 --> 03:19:01,479
give it instead to your children, that's right. Ungrateful fucks.

3579
03:19:02,040 --> 03:19:06,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, and they'll never show the appropriate gratitude.

3580
03:19:06,440 --> 03:19:08,600
Speaker 3: Until they have kids. I mean, how many times I've

3581
03:19:08,840 --> 03:19:11,520
how many times I've apologized to my dad and said, man,

3582
03:19:11,719 --> 03:19:13,920
there you go. I never realized how much of a

3583
03:19:13,959 --> 03:19:14,959
dick I was you.

3584
03:19:15,719 --> 03:19:19,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's absolute truth, and it's it's it's

3585
03:19:19,319 --> 03:19:21,479
just a different perspective. It's like, if you don't have

3586
03:19:21,520 --> 03:19:24,879
that perspective, it's like, you know, we're not we're not

3587
03:19:24,920 --> 03:19:26,639
speaking the same language. We're just not.

3588
03:19:26,719 --> 03:19:30,399
Speaker 3: And again I'm not I'm not judging anybody, but it's literally,

3589
03:19:30,479 --> 03:19:37,840
it's literally, it's completely a world you just you can

3590
03:19:37,959 --> 03:19:40,680
never understand until you live through.

3591
03:19:40,760 --> 03:19:43,440
Speaker 2: I think that's true. Yeah, because you don't know yourself yet.

3592
03:19:43,479 --> 03:19:45,440
You don't know that part of yourself. It doesn't come

3593
03:19:45,479 --> 03:19:49,360
out until you're in that position. You haven't accessed it.

3594
03:19:49,399 --> 03:19:51,559
You don't know who you are as a parent. You

3595
03:19:51,600 --> 03:19:52,479
have no clue.

3596
03:19:52,719 --> 03:19:57,639
Speaker 3: Until until you're until you are until you have to

3597
03:19:57,680 --> 03:20:00,840
wake up five times in the middle of the night

3598
03:20:02,799 --> 03:20:09,079
and tried so desperately to feed your child, yes, feed

3599
03:20:09,120 --> 03:20:14,280
your infant, until like as fast as possible, because if

3600
03:20:14,319 --> 03:20:17,600
you don't, if you don't do it fast enough and

3601
03:20:17,639 --> 03:20:21,799
get them back to sleep fast enough, you're not going

3602
03:20:21,840 --> 03:20:24,799
back to sleep, correct. And that's the thing.

3603
03:20:24,879 --> 03:20:26,920
Speaker 2: A guy like John Cena can't do that because he's

3604
03:20:27,239 --> 03:20:29,280
got to go to the fucking he's done eighteen hour.

3605
03:20:29,200 --> 03:20:31,920
Speaker 3: Day, right, and he had got to and listen like

3606
03:20:31,959 --> 03:20:34,159
because because you know what, because here's the thing, because

3607
03:20:34,200 --> 03:20:38,239
nobody who's had his fucking career and lifestyle ever has kids, right,

3608
03:20:39,120 --> 03:20:40,159
there are a million people.

3609
03:20:40,280 --> 03:20:43,239
Speaker 2: But that's to your point, that's why he's so over

3610
03:20:43,360 --> 03:20:45,440
the top, right, you know, with what he can do

3611
03:20:45,879 --> 03:20:48,920
exactly because he doesn't have that at any point, right,

3612
03:20:48,959 --> 03:20:50,440
because he can just worry about himself.

3613
03:20:51,440 --> 03:20:53,399
Speaker 3: I mean that means that too he looks selfish.

3614
03:20:54,000 --> 03:20:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's very straightforward about that. But you

3615
03:20:58,079 --> 03:21:01,040
know he thinks he thinks makes it a virtue. Well okay, but.

3616
03:21:02,280 --> 03:21:05,040
Speaker 3: I mean no, it's I'll tell you it's a it's

3617
03:21:05,040 --> 03:21:08,040
a it's a it's only a virtue to those who

3618
03:21:08,120 --> 03:21:12,200
can share it with his lifestyle, right exactly. Anybody else

3619
03:21:12,920 --> 03:21:16,959
Just fuck off, dude, Just fuck off your piano playing.

3620
03:21:17,200 --> 03:21:20,680
Just walk off a bridge.

3621
03:21:22,040 --> 03:21:24,520
Speaker 2: Personal growth yeah, okay.

3622
03:21:24,440 --> 03:21:26,360
Speaker 3: See I think what we can do together?

3623
03:21:26,520 --> 03:21:30,600
Speaker 2: Oh god, no, I can't. It's a very simple thing.

3624
03:21:30,719 --> 03:21:35,000
All you have to do is just take the time.

3625
03:21:36,040 --> 03:21:38,799
Make the time stop, make the time, do it yourself,

3626
03:21:38,879 --> 03:21:43,159
make the time. We don't have time. There's no time

3627
03:21:43,200 --> 03:21:46,440
to make it. Dumbas, but I don't tell that if

3628
03:21:46,440 --> 03:21:47,959
you want to sleep. Don't tell if you want to

3629
03:21:47,959 --> 03:21:51,280
sleep exactly exactly, if you're willing to give up some

3630
03:21:51,319 --> 03:21:54,520
sleep now we're talking. Yeah, don't tell that to Peter

3631
03:21:54,639 --> 03:21:57,159
Butler or Sam Rivers or Drew Nichols or Adam b

3632
03:21:57,799 --> 03:22:03,559
or Lil Cookie or Lee Joanno or Ricky Gonzalez or

3633
03:22:03,600 --> 03:22:07,719
Billy Bob or for Telly or Jared Murray or Cody

3634
03:22:07,799 --> 03:22:13,200
Quinny or Miguel Aragon or Nick O or Travis or

3635
03:22:13,319 --> 03:22:18,639
jaredt Dobson or Drell Watkins Wilkins pardon me, or Chris

3636
03:22:18,680 --> 03:22:23,719
Thomas or Ed j or Chromas Lamb for that matter,

3637
03:22:24,079 --> 03:22:28,920
or Matt Butler or Andrew Trudeau or Jason or Mark

3638
03:22:28,959 --> 03:22:33,879
Townsend or Spice Boy or eesc or Brandon m or

3639
03:22:33,959 --> 03:22:37,559
Colby Hartzog. Don't tell that to Rob Brown or Neil

3640
03:22:37,719 --> 03:22:42,079
Forbes or Garrick Taylor. Don't tell that to Stephen Prescott

3641
03:22:42,399 --> 03:22:48,360
or a Soul or Jonathan. Don't tell that to Persephonie Oliver.

3642
03:22:49,399 --> 03:22:53,079
These are all folks, yes, who have put money on

3643
03:22:53,120 --> 03:22:56,319
the table via Patreon for your co chair since the

3644
03:22:56,360 --> 03:22:59,040
last time we were with you. In the mailbag, Austin

3645
03:22:59,200 --> 03:23:01,440
writes in honor of seen A breaking the record for

3646
03:23:01,520 --> 03:23:04,319
most title wins the co chairs. Watch him get a

3647
03:23:04,319 --> 03:23:08,760
beer funnel stuck up his ass and blockers. How marked

3648
03:23:08,799 --> 03:23:14,079
the occasion under the cinemat How about when Dom wins

3649
03:23:14,079 --> 03:23:16,440
the Icy title at WrestleMania. You're gonna tell me that's

3650
03:23:16,479 --> 03:23:20,559
not worth your Patreon dollar. James Wright's listening to the

3651
03:23:20,559 --> 03:23:22,680
Boss on the live call of Dom winning the Icy

3652
03:23:22,680 --> 03:23:26,319
belt knowing what was to come, was incredible. Boss. You

3653
03:23:26,319 --> 03:23:28,639
should hear some of the reactions this guy's getting, especially

3654
03:23:28,680 --> 03:23:32,079
with the triple A. I just saw this video being

3655
03:23:32,239 --> 03:23:35,399
vindicated on Dom, Like, you don't believe this guy's gonna

3656
03:23:35,399 --> 03:23:37,040
be the biggest heel in the business.

3657
03:23:37,479 --> 03:23:45,399
Speaker 3: Yep, he's gonna be massive. He is. He is, He's brilliant.

3658
03:23:45,680 --> 03:23:47,559
Speaker 2: He's a brilliant and I never really it didn't sing

3659
03:23:47,600 --> 03:23:50,120
game with me, but like that bilingual stuff like his

3660
03:23:50,280 --> 03:23:54,000
understanding the Luca mentality and his dad's stature in that world. Like, God,

3661
03:23:54,040 --> 03:23:56,399
he's gonna be like a multi lingual star. You can

3662
03:23:56,440 --> 03:23:58,639
do so much with this kid. And look at his

3663
03:23:58,799 --> 03:24:01,559
mustache and look at his hair. Oh I look at

3664
03:24:01,559 --> 03:24:02,360
the look on his face.

3665
03:24:03,120 --> 03:24:07,399
Speaker 3: There is there is nobody in this current age who

3666
03:24:07,440 --> 03:24:13,399
I approve of the mustache other than Dom.

3667
03:24:13,719 --> 03:24:14,360
Speaker 2: Look at the man.

3668
03:24:15,159 --> 03:24:15,920
Speaker 3: He's just brilliant.

3669
03:24:15,959 --> 03:24:20,479
Speaker 2: He's brilliant. He's brilliant. Everything he does brilliant.

3670
03:24:20,639 --> 03:24:21,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is.

3671
03:24:21,559 --> 03:24:23,920
Speaker 2: I mean, he's it's just a fucking he's just he's

3672
03:24:24,200 --> 03:24:28,239
he's he's spectacular. It's funny going back and looking at

3673
03:24:28,239 --> 03:24:30,920
all the WrestleMania comments about how cringe Travis Scott was

3674
03:24:30,959 --> 03:24:33,959
and now it totally fell apart with him in WWE.

3675
03:24:34,000 --> 03:24:36,360
He was not interested in putting in the work at all.

3676
03:24:36,879 --> 03:24:39,479
So that WrestleMania main event finish is going to go

3677
03:24:39,479 --> 03:24:42,680
down is even more pathetic, not just because Rock couldn't

3678
03:24:42,719 --> 03:24:45,040
grace it with his presence because he saw the ship

3679
03:24:45,079 --> 03:24:47,120
show was going to be, but the fact that Travis

3680
03:24:47,159 --> 03:24:50,840
Scott went nowhere and they wasted that WrestleMania main event

3681
03:24:50,879 --> 03:24:53,200
real estate on somebody who wasn't even going to show

3682
03:24:53,280 --> 03:24:55,680
up again. Yep, it's going to be a real sad flow.

3683
03:24:56,360 --> 03:25:03,319
Speaker 3: So it's it's continuing to really just completely obliterate this

3684
03:25:03,440 --> 03:25:06,600
John Scena heel turn. Yes, correct, all right, it's continuing

3685
03:25:06,639 --> 03:25:08,159
to be a complete fucking joke.

3686
03:25:08,239 --> 03:25:09,719
Speaker 2: I think that's part of what we're going to see

3687
03:25:09,760 --> 03:25:13,120
when we hit Comedy Village between nights one to two

3688
03:25:13,200 --> 03:25:14,879
is we're going to look to that night Summer Slam

3689
03:25:14,879 --> 03:25:17,440
and be like, you know what, guys experiment over. I

3690
03:25:17,479 --> 03:25:19,479
look forward to chopping up with the Solar System members

3691
03:25:19,479 --> 03:25:21,959
who join us in terms of how closely we've been

3692
03:25:22,559 --> 03:25:24,239
watching the scene of hill Turn and what does and

3693
03:25:24,280 --> 03:25:26,239
doesn't work, because we may very well be marking the

3694
03:25:26,319 --> 03:25:28,520
end of it in New York City for all intents

3695
03:25:28,520 --> 03:25:30,040
and purposes coming up at SummerSlam.

3696
03:25:30,440 --> 03:25:33,399
Speaker 3: Scott, I did. I have seen some things where people

3697
03:25:33,479 --> 03:25:36,719
talk like there's there's there's to do something, some talk

3698
03:25:36,840 --> 03:25:39,280
that that it's going to end, that the heel turn

3699
03:25:39,319 --> 03:25:40,440
is going to end at SummerSlam.

3700
03:25:40,680 --> 03:25:42,639
Speaker 2: Really funny as people don't think that that was the

3701
03:25:42,680 --> 03:25:43,479
plan all along.

3702
03:25:43,760 --> 03:25:46,559
Speaker 3: Oh right, And of course, of course I forgot about that.

3703
03:25:46,639 --> 03:25:48,520
I forgot that. I forgot that this was the plan

3704
03:25:48,600 --> 03:25:50,520
three years ago, right, what we do.

3705
03:25:50,360 --> 03:25:53,959
Speaker 2: That's right, And what we do is deliver, you know,

3706
03:25:55,040 --> 03:25:58,399
on stories, and that's well.

3707
03:25:58,920 --> 03:26:01,680
Speaker 3: We deliver on story based entertainment.

3708
03:26:04,399 --> 03:26:07,159
Speaker 2: That's true. I mean, how canna fault you for that comment?

3709
03:26:07,239 --> 03:26:12,440
Speaker 3: No, listen r R. The way we entertain is based

3710
03:26:12,760 --> 03:26:14,120
primarily on story.

3711
03:26:14,360 --> 03:26:16,479
Speaker 2: And Scott Michael Ferry is speaking of New York. Oh shit,

3712
03:26:16,600 --> 03:26:18,079
sounds like there may need to be a mote tear

3713
03:26:18,120 --> 03:26:22,719
pilgrimage to the New York Golden Steer. Oh yeah, popped

3714
03:26:22,879 --> 03:26:26,239
me plugging the cream corn. He remembers the vague yeah,

3715
03:26:26,399 --> 03:26:30,399
oh are you excited? Oh, I'm very excited. I keep

3716
03:26:30,440 --> 03:26:32,079
I go to the website like once a week to

3717
03:26:32,120 --> 03:26:35,120
see if they have a fucking date yet for the

3718
03:26:35,159 --> 03:26:38,600
New York Steer. William back in the Mania days, I

3719
03:26:38,600 --> 03:26:40,600
didn't watch the mains. I listened to that fucking cast,

3720
03:26:40,959 --> 03:26:42,600
but I was watching the raw after with my wife,

3721
03:26:42,639 --> 03:26:45,159
who also was lapsed. She watched WCW with her grandmother

3722
03:26:45,159 --> 03:26:47,520
and went to a thunder taping, so she qualifies anyway.

3723
03:26:47,559 --> 03:26:49,680
The highlights from Cody were playing, and she happened to

3724
03:26:49,680 --> 03:26:51,040
look up from her phone when the shot of the

3725
03:26:51,040 --> 03:26:53,559
skull helmet came up, and she said, with all lapsedness,

3726
03:26:54,040 --> 03:26:56,520
what the fuck does he have on his head? Exactly

3727
03:26:56,680 --> 03:27:00,280
that's exactly right. And William also has a helpful suggestion

3728
03:27:00,479 --> 03:27:02,680
WW needs to hire Kevin von Eric to come out

3729
03:27:02,680 --> 03:27:05,879
and shoot down a drone and have him say I'm sorry, dude,

3730
03:27:05,959 --> 03:27:07,520
I thought it was a quail.

3731
03:27:09,479 --> 03:27:09,799
Speaker 4: Fuck.

3732
03:27:10,200 --> 03:27:12,079
Speaker 2: Steve says, just a follow up on the ground here

3733
03:27:12,079 --> 03:27:15,120
in Vegas, Dom was hands down the most over guy tonight.

3734
03:27:16,079 --> 03:27:18,719
People were chanting dirty Dom as they left the arena.

3735
03:27:20,920 --> 03:27:24,280
Speaker 3: I don't see how this is a surprise to anybody.

3736
03:27:24,600 --> 03:27:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you listen to us, it wasn't. Evan uh

3737
03:27:27,920 --> 03:27:31,399
says back then, can't wait for that Travis Scott program. Brother,

3738
03:27:32,000 --> 03:27:35,520
I'm reminded why I'm a fucking moron for watching this shit,

3739
03:27:37,319 --> 03:27:39,719
watching flair funk to stop me from pulling the trigger,

3740
03:27:39,799 --> 03:27:43,559
he says. Fucking Pap says scene attorney during the match

3741
03:27:43,559 --> 03:27:45,239
makes so much more sense, and I would put money

3742
03:27:45,239 --> 03:27:47,440
behind that being the original plan. Okay, now I'm gonna

3743
03:27:47,479 --> 03:27:50,159
call that. I think I saved this for something else

3744
03:27:50,200 --> 03:27:53,079
that he said, Uh yeah, And I think this needs

3745
03:27:53,120 --> 03:27:55,559
to be kept in mind whenever people wonder what it

3746
03:27:55,600 --> 03:27:58,520
is exactly they get for their Patreon dollar. He writes,

3747
03:27:58,559 --> 03:28:01,159
there's something magical about waiting until the next day to

3748
03:28:01,159 --> 03:28:04,799
watch Mania in sync with the live call Yeo Sky,

3749
03:28:04,879 --> 03:28:08,200
making her entrance clearly emotional, screaming her heart out. Boss,

3750
03:28:08,239 --> 03:28:11,440
What does he say at this moment? There was ham

3751
03:28:11,840 --> 03:28:26,000
and lamb. I can't imagine what was because it was Easter.

3752
03:28:26,520 --> 03:28:27,440
Speaker 3: It was Easter weekend.

3753
03:28:27,559 --> 03:28:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were talking about where we had

3754
03:28:29,840 --> 03:28:31,799
at Easter and there was ham and Lamb. It's true,

3755
03:28:31,959 --> 03:28:34,479
Justin writes Toerco Chairs, I hope you and your families

3756
03:28:34,639 --> 03:28:37,360
had a blessed Easter. Quick story only select fuel appreciate.

3757
03:28:37,600 --> 03:28:39,399
I went to my new widowed aunts house for Easter

3758
03:28:39,520 --> 03:28:41,600
this year. She lives a bit away, so again the

3759
03:28:41,639 --> 03:28:43,520
Mania mood. I listened to the TLF, seen a special

3760
03:28:43,559 --> 03:28:45,280
report on the way. When I arrived at my aunt's

3761
03:28:45,280 --> 03:28:47,799
on Saturday afternoon, her house was about ninety degrees because

3762
03:28:47,840 --> 03:28:49,959
it was eighty and Jersey and she never is out

3763
03:28:50,120 --> 03:28:52,040
on the air on that doesn't have the air on

3764
03:28:52,200 --> 03:28:54,040
or open a window because she's old and gets cold.

3765
03:28:54,280 --> 03:28:56,319
After some family fun, I smoked a bowl and settled

3766
03:28:56,360 --> 03:28:58,680
in on Mania Night one, about an hour into the show.

3767
03:28:58,760 --> 03:29:01,239
My sister comes in the room, thinking out loud and

3768
03:29:01,319 --> 03:29:03,760
rhetorically says to my mom, what are we gonna do

3769
03:29:03,799 --> 03:29:08,319
about this heat? Naturally, I sprung into action, looked at

3770
03:29:08,319 --> 03:29:13,079
her and said, whoa, brother, let's dial this back. Who

3771
03:29:13,079 --> 03:29:16,120
you been talking to? That this happens in real American

3772
03:29:16,159 --> 03:29:17,360
living rooms because of us?

3773
03:29:18,079 --> 03:29:18,360
Speaker 3: Yes?

3774
03:29:18,440 --> 03:29:20,399
Speaker 2: She looked at me with utter disgust and said, what

3775
03:29:20,440 --> 03:29:21,799
the fuck are you even talking about?

3776
03:29:21,799 --> 03:29:22,079
Speaker 3: You eat?

3777
03:29:22,239 --> 03:29:25,440
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yea. I try to explain. She just walked away.

3778
03:29:26,399 --> 03:29:28,760
She'll never know the pain. And what an absolute fuck

3779
03:29:28,799 --> 03:29:31,000
was the ending of Sina Cody. Yes, you guys are

3780
03:29:31,000 --> 03:29:33,600
fucking awesome. We love it, pal, we love we love

3781
03:29:33,639 --> 03:29:36,680
the little slice of Life. Brendan says it well, WrestleMania

3782
03:29:36,719 --> 03:29:42,079
is prom for wrestlers. That is the problem. Wow, Robert says,

3783
03:29:42,120 --> 03:29:44,520
can we get an indie wrestler to use Philip Glass

3784
03:29:44,520 --> 03:29:46,520
as their walkout music so we can get clean as

3785
03:29:46,520 --> 03:29:52,719
cot seat under the cinemat Correous got Carlos out in

3786
03:29:52,760 --> 03:29:55,719
Colorado Springs. Greetings Jack and JP. This is random, but

3787
03:29:55,760 --> 03:29:58,600
not without merit. Based on Mike Tyson's contribution to the

3788
03:29:58,639 --> 03:30:00,799
forever changing Monday Night Wars rating swing.

3789
03:30:00,879 --> 03:30:04,360
Speaker 3: I mean, can I honestly could could there be? I

3790
03:30:04,360 --> 03:30:06,520
would love it if there was a faction called Kotzi

3791
03:30:07,840 --> 03:30:10,000
and then there was like there was one who was

3792
03:30:10,200 --> 03:30:12,840
like you had kis, you had power and he had not,

3793
03:30:15,079 --> 03:30:19,239
all right, and that's it's just like that's the name.

3794
03:30:19,360 --> 03:30:22,200
Then that there, that's their faction name is Kotzi.

3795
03:30:25,520 --> 03:30:31,520
Speaker 2: I can imagine if you can get behind that. I

3796
03:30:31,559 --> 03:30:36,440
think that would be like so absolutely fucking insane and

3797
03:30:36,520 --> 03:30:40,239
fucking fucking like godfre Reggio. I don't even know if

3798
03:30:40,239 --> 03:30:42,200
he's dead or not, but he's like, what the fuck

3799
03:30:42,520 --> 03:30:47,120
is what the yeah, he's still He's still. God, he's

3800
03:30:47,559 --> 03:30:50,799
a mess, but he's still alive. Like he's like what

3801
03:30:52,399 --> 03:30:53,079
good imitation?

3802
03:30:55,360 --> 03:30:55,799
Speaker 3: Totally?

3803
03:30:56,079 --> 03:30:59,239
Speaker 2: Carlos says, based on Mike Tyson's contribution to the forever

3804
03:30:59,280 --> 03:31:01,840
chaining My Night worst rating swing in January ninety eight,

3805
03:31:02,040 --> 03:31:03,719
could you find it in your hearts to cover the

3806
03:31:03,760 --> 03:31:07,040
baddest man on the planet? Considerable criteria being his available

3807
03:31:07,040 --> 03:31:09,360
on YouTube and the best sports documentary ever made Fox

3808
03:31:09,399 --> 03:31:12,040
Beyond the Glory, and several really bad made for TV movies.

3809
03:31:12,280 --> 03:31:15,239
His cameo in The Hangover All that Teddy fucking Atlas

3810
03:31:15,280 --> 03:31:17,440
is the Bruce Hard the Beyond the Glory of the

3811
03:31:17,559 --> 03:31:20,920
Beyond the Glory, the Jake Palm Netflix Tobacle. I'd start

3812
03:31:20,959 --> 03:31:22,760
the bidding at one hundred dollars if such a bidding

3813
03:31:22,760 --> 03:31:26,319
process exists for the greatest duo to ever cover Carnie

3814
03:31:26,319 --> 03:31:29,479
bullshit and sometimes real stuff. I realized that Under the

3815
03:31:29,479 --> 03:31:31,639
Cinemat isn't the Hopper, but god damn, this would be

3816
03:31:31,719 --> 03:31:33,879
such an amazing thing to hear, the greatest podcast on

3817
03:31:33,920 --> 03:31:36,159
Earth cover. Thank you if you happen to read or

3818
03:31:36,200 --> 03:31:39,000
consider this TLF for life. Well, thank you, Carlos. What

3819
03:31:39,079 --> 03:31:40,799
do you think Boss Mike Tyson ever going to be

3820
03:31:40,879 --> 03:31:41,639
Under the Cinemat?

3821
03:31:42,040 --> 03:31:42,120
Speaker 4: Oh?

3822
03:31:42,239 --> 03:31:46,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely qualifies, no question, No, absolute qualifies. Absolutely.

3823
03:31:46,799 --> 03:31:54,040
Speaker 3: He qualifies just on you know, because for a number

3824
03:31:54,040 --> 03:31:58,399
of things, but especially because of Wrestling fourteen. Listen. He

3825
03:31:58,559 --> 03:32:01,280
was totally very very easy one in that it's an

3826
03:32:01,280 --> 03:32:04,799
easy one. His involvement him being part of d X,

3827
03:32:05,000 --> 03:32:10,440
like all that stuff. He's he's he's there, no question.

3828
03:32:11,120 --> 03:32:13,639
Speaker 2: Morgan's enjoying the mote tier in Wrestle Mamia on the

3829
03:32:13,680 --> 03:32:16,840
Vince McMahon versusll Cogan one that you posted, Yes, he

3830
03:32:16,879 --> 03:32:20,040
wrote underneath quote quoting your mom. They're both down, but

3831
03:32:20,120 --> 03:32:26,440
nobody is counting. Yep, every single time, every single time, listen,

3832
03:32:26,559 --> 03:32:31,280
I have to so So I I already talked about.

3833
03:32:31,040 --> 03:32:34,799
Speaker 3: How you know we we we watch in batch okay,

3834
03:32:34,879 --> 03:32:38,399
in bulk form, were the costco of watching wrestling matches,

3835
03:32:39,280 --> 03:32:44,440
And so I'm telling you so sometimes we'll watch four

3836
03:32:44,520 --> 03:32:48,200
to six matches in a day when I when I'm around,

3837
03:32:48,680 --> 03:32:51,440
I like to get a month in when I when

3838
03:32:51,559 --> 03:32:54,600
if if I'm if she's visiting or if I'm visiting

3839
03:32:54,680 --> 03:32:56,360
or whatever, I like to get a month's worth of

3840
03:32:56,399 --> 03:33:01,959
content in. And so we're gonna watch four to six

3841
03:33:02,040 --> 03:33:07,840
matches in a row. Every match it's like starting from scratch.

3842
03:33:09,440 --> 03:33:16,760
I have to explain every match why how a pinfall works.

3843
03:33:17,280 --> 03:33:19,600
And it's like we just saw a match, but I

3844
03:33:19,600 --> 03:33:21,680
have to restart. It's like it's honest, it's like a

3845
03:33:21,719 --> 03:33:24,159
reset button happens every time we start a new match.

3846
03:33:25,840 --> 03:33:28,639
It's it's unbelievable. I mean, and it's totally legit, like

3847
03:33:28,680 --> 03:33:34,719
it's not it's not you know, it's it's like it

3848
03:33:34,879 --> 03:33:37,840
just went in and out. It's like it just went

3849
03:33:37,879 --> 03:33:40,360
in out and all of a sudden, like this match

3850
03:33:40,959 --> 03:33:43,639
then it's like we watch a regular match, and we

3851
03:33:43,639 --> 03:33:45,840
watched another regular match, and it's like, for some reason,

3852
03:33:46,239 --> 03:33:49,799
the rules in the previous match just don't qualify for

3853
03:33:49,879 --> 03:33:50,559
the next match.

3854
03:33:50,799 --> 03:33:53,840
Speaker 2: Hell, I don't blame her. I mean every you sprinkling

3855
03:33:53,840 --> 03:33:56,479
ec W and stuff. This doesn't make any sense. There's

3856
03:33:56,559 --> 03:33:59,479
DQ here, not account Oh yeah, of course, of course.

3857
03:33:59,559 --> 03:34:03,000
Speaker 3: It's you know, you.

3858
03:34:02,920 --> 03:34:04,879
Speaker 2: Can tap out in this match to submit, but in

3859
03:34:04,879 --> 03:34:06,719
this match he slamming the mat in a submission hole.

3860
03:34:06,719 --> 03:34:07,719
But it's not a tap.

3861
03:34:08,200 --> 03:34:11,639
Speaker 3: Yep, and like, but the best is that is when

3862
03:34:11,680 --> 03:34:13,399
you see is when she sees two wrestlers on their

3863
03:34:13,440 --> 03:34:15,600
backs on the ground, she doesn't nderstand why nobody's getting

3864
03:34:15,639 --> 03:34:18,719
counted out. Well, you got to cover the guy Mom

3865
03:34:18,879 --> 03:34:23,000
called the double down. Jesus put the crowd up. What

3866
03:34:23,079 --> 03:34:28,000
I know, that's a good question. Brother puts his hand

3867
03:34:28,040 --> 03:34:28,360
in the end.

3868
03:34:28,760 --> 03:34:32,079
Speaker 2: Whoa whoa, whoa whoa in between you guys. Here's a

3869
03:34:32,079 --> 03:34:34,959
little lap slice of life from Zach at a conference

3870
03:34:34,959 --> 03:34:36,719
at a fancy hotel, listening to the cast while I

3871
03:34:36,760 --> 03:34:39,159
walk to the seated breakfast. Take out my AirPods and

3872
03:34:39,239 --> 03:34:41,680
my phone, Kate shoot and my phone shows this time

3873
03:34:42,079 --> 03:34:44,920
to not be silent, but instead loudly plays the boss

3874
03:34:45,040 --> 03:34:49,959
singing Sergeant Slaughter's baby Face song at the fancy conference.

3875
03:34:50,200 --> 03:34:57,360
Oh Jesus, correct, it's happening out there, folks, Rosalie Caine,

3876
03:34:57,719 --> 03:35:05,239
Scott Jerck de Rosier, Twaan, Matthew Wallatchuck, Michael Fisco, Sean

3877
03:35:05,399 --> 03:35:11,719
three point sixteen, Ben Buck, Andrea Angrisane, Andrew Brister, and

3878
03:35:11,879 --> 03:35:17,719
so many more. Jim Rocco, they just must support that

3879
03:35:17,840 --> 03:35:21,120
fucking cast. Amber wants us to know. Help. I'm an

3880
03:35:21,159 --> 03:35:23,920
IRS fan. I coach you.

3881
03:35:24,000 --> 03:35:24,239
Speaker 3: Sorry.

3882
03:35:24,399 --> 03:35:26,239
Speaker 2: For some reason, when I was a kiddo late early

3883
03:35:26,719 --> 03:35:29,120
at late eighties early nineties, I had a fascination with

3884
03:35:29,239 --> 03:35:32,360
entertainment branded fictional characters who were tough guys but wore

3885
03:35:32,479 --> 03:35:37,079
ordinary clothing bonus points if they bled on their duds.

3886
03:35:37,079 --> 03:35:39,639
I suppose for a farm girl like myself that such

3887
03:35:39,799 --> 03:35:42,719
juxtaposition was impressive. At the time, it felt to me

3888
03:35:42,799 --> 03:35:45,159
like Diehard's Bruce Willis had introduced the battered and bloodied

3889
03:35:45,200 --> 03:35:47,040
hero to the culture. So when I first saw the

3890
03:35:47,079 --> 03:35:50,200
Hasbro Irs figure at KB Toys, I thought, Oh, here's

3891
03:35:50,239 --> 03:35:52,840
another take on that formula. An ordinary Joe who had

3892
03:35:52,879 --> 03:35:57,200
a day job but was also a bruiser. Look at

3893
03:35:57,200 --> 03:35:59,440
those arms, and as a fan of de Biassi, of

3894
03:35:59,520 --> 03:36:02,079
course I had become an IRS fan too. Needless to say,

3895
03:36:02,079 --> 03:36:05,120
I failed to convince my friends that Rotundo was ever cool. Still,

3896
03:36:05,159 --> 03:36:07,120
he remains one of my favorite hasbros to this day.

3897
03:36:07,440 --> 03:36:10,280
Maybe it says something that is modern figures all suck

3898
03:36:10,319 --> 03:36:13,239
with ill fitting glasses and suspenders. That original figure lined

3899
03:36:13,559 --> 03:36:16,040
went a long way and inspiring a kid's imagination, making

3900
03:36:16,079 --> 03:36:19,120
even jobbers often seem cool. They were my introduction to

3901
03:36:19,200 --> 03:36:21,719
this shame we call wrestling, so I created stories in

3902
03:36:21,799 --> 03:36:24,440
my head long before ever seeing a WW match. To

3903
03:36:24,520 --> 03:36:26,520
Vince's point right about how we set the platform, we

3904
03:36:26,559 --> 03:36:27,200
set the template.

3905
03:36:27,719 --> 03:36:27,799
Speaker 3: Ye.

3906
03:36:28,319 --> 03:36:30,479
Speaker 2: Anyway, I hope you enjoyed the attached advertisement. I found

3907
03:36:30,520 --> 03:36:33,280
proof that I left his mark. Yes, there's a it's

3908
03:36:33,319 --> 03:36:36,920
a utility pant that's on sale in like a fashion magazine.

3909
03:36:37,360 --> 03:36:40,079
And then the red suspenders looks just like IRS man.

3910
03:36:40,280 --> 03:36:40,479
Speaker 3: Yeah.

3911
03:36:40,479 --> 03:36:42,479
Speaker 2: I didn't like that Hazibro figure though, I'm with you.

3912
03:36:42,680 --> 03:36:44,520
Speaker 3: No, I was not a fan of the stomps. The

3913
03:36:44,600 --> 03:36:49,840
stomp figures were awful, terrible. They were they were. There

3914
03:36:49,920 --> 03:36:54,120
were three figure styles that just didn't work. The stomps

3915
03:36:55,200 --> 03:36:59,239
the weird push down the feet and the arms flail

3916
03:36:59,319 --> 03:37:04,120
around and then the pushdown the lakes together jumpers not

3917
03:37:04,239 --> 03:37:04,520
a fan.

3918
03:37:04,879 --> 03:37:08,120
Speaker 2: We mentioned the Raw guest host thing Mike things Heat

3919
03:37:08,239 --> 03:37:10,959
from nineteen ninety five qualifies because Piven was involved when

3920
03:37:11,000 --> 03:37:14,959
he guest hosted Raw and he called SummerSlam summer Fest.

3921
03:37:16,799 --> 03:37:17,479
That's pretty good.

3922
03:37:19,079 --> 03:37:21,840
Speaker 3: I know that is again that that might be one.

3923
03:37:22,079 --> 03:37:22,920
I let it slide.

3924
03:37:22,959 --> 03:37:25,879
Speaker 2: I always think that's the ultimate one. Like that's the

3925
03:37:25,920 --> 03:37:28,200
measuring stick because pivn like he did nothing. He just

3926
03:37:28,239 --> 03:37:30,799
showed up for some contractual obligation and did the Raw

3927
03:37:30,840 --> 03:37:34,920
hosting thing to promote something. Yeah, could care less. But

3928
03:37:35,200 --> 03:37:39,280
Heat man, I know right, we all about that around here.

3929
03:37:40,319 --> 03:37:43,000
Sammy has another one, boss Man in the Forrest Gump novel.

3930
03:37:43,239 --> 03:37:45,000
I did not know this. This is true. In the

3931
03:37:45,079 --> 03:37:48,120
Forst Gump novel, he became a successful pro wrestler for

3932
03:37:48,200 --> 03:37:48,680
a period.

3933
03:37:49,479 --> 03:37:50,079
Speaker 3: That's what he says.

3934
03:37:50,120 --> 03:37:52,719
Speaker 2: I gotta look at this discount because we need for Scott.

3935
03:37:53,360 --> 03:37:56,719
Speaker 3: That's the whole thing. I I don't. I mean, that's

3936
03:37:56,920 --> 03:38:02,159
that's like, because it's in the novel, does that qualify

3937
03:38:02,239 --> 03:38:03,079
the movie, right?

3938
03:38:03,559 --> 03:38:08,760
Speaker 2: I would think so. I'm not.

3939
03:38:09,079 --> 03:38:12,120
Speaker 3: I'm not denying like, I'm definitely considering it. I gotta

3940
03:38:12,159 --> 03:38:13,719
I gotta look it up a little bit. I gotta

3941
03:38:13,879 --> 03:38:14,799
do some research on that.

3942
03:38:17,760 --> 03:38:18,959
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what you come up with.

3943
03:38:21,120 --> 03:38:23,360
Robert wants to know if Brad Dorriff did the actual

3944
03:38:23,440 --> 03:38:26,760
voice for Chucky on WCW against Rick Steiner. Does blue

3945
03:38:26,840 --> 03:38:29,479
Velvet itself qualify shit?

3946
03:38:33,200 --> 03:38:34,120
Speaker 3: Is that a fact that we know?

3947
03:38:34,239 --> 03:38:34,280
Speaker 4: That?

3948
03:38:34,440 --> 03:38:35,000
Speaker 3: Is he saying that that?

3949
03:38:35,360 --> 03:38:36,719
Speaker 2: He says it like it's a fact. I mean, I

3950
03:38:36,799 --> 03:38:37,520
didn't know that, but.

3951
03:38:40,040 --> 03:38:41,760
Speaker 3: I'll look it up. I'll look at this. Is this

3952
03:38:41,879 --> 03:38:43,040
is also I gotta look into.

3953
03:38:47,520 --> 03:38:47,879
Speaker 2: Massive.

3954
03:38:49,159 --> 03:38:51,239
Speaker 3: I know this, this could be. These are game changers.

3955
03:38:51,319 --> 03:38:53,440
Speaker 2: Scott says next weekend he's gonna do the grilled English,

3956
03:38:53,920 --> 03:38:58,639
Spicy homemade mcmuffins, spicy sausage Colby pepper Jack. A quick

3957
03:38:58,680 --> 03:39:00,799
go to is also a toastering the smuff and crunchy

3958
03:39:00,879 --> 03:39:04,000
peanut butter let, the hot muffin melt the peanut butter fantastic,

3959
03:39:04,600 --> 03:39:08,120
and a homemade lodge regular. In case you're wondering what's

3960
03:39:08,159 --> 03:39:15,399
for breakfast going forward, Stephen has a cans and I

3961
03:39:15,479 --> 03:39:17,639
can say without any doubt, yeah, he wants us to

3962
03:39:17,719 --> 03:39:21,159
know that as a because you know, if we're going

3963
03:39:21,239 --> 03:39:22,840
to go out on food, we're gonna go out on

3964
03:39:22,920 --> 03:39:25,440
food as a cans. And he can say without any doubt,

3965
03:39:25,479 --> 03:39:28,639
barbecue sauce is the King condiment, thoughts.

3966
03:39:29,760 --> 03:39:32,159
Speaker 3: Ah, the King connon No, I can't say it's the

3967
03:39:32,239 --> 03:39:34,760
King condiment. I like, I love barbecue sauce, but it's

3968
03:39:34,799 --> 03:39:36,760
gonna be on the right thing. I can't use it

3969
03:39:36,799 --> 03:39:40,319
for everything. That's the King condiment then, m that's a

3970
03:39:40,360 --> 03:39:46,760
good question, the King condiment. I mean what I like most, honestly, mayonnaise.

3971
03:39:47,760 --> 03:39:54,840
I love mayonnaise. I love mayonnaise goes well with most things. Yeah,

3972
03:39:54,879 --> 03:39:56,600
I know, I know it is, it absolutely is.

3973
03:39:56,680 --> 03:40:01,360
Speaker 2: But I love like mayonnaise with like I can. I

3974
03:40:01,440 --> 03:40:07,120
can have mayonnaise with most with pretty much any deli meat,

3975
03:40:08,159 --> 03:40:11,360
how fuckingnise? Thanksgiving, sir.

3976
03:40:12,079 --> 03:40:14,719
Speaker 3: Oh, it's it's it's it's it. It's what makes it, Honestly,

3977
03:40:14,760 --> 03:40:16,680
it's that it's that little that little like such a

3978
03:40:17,959 --> 03:40:21,479
it's that see that and the and and the cranberry

3979
03:40:21,520 --> 03:40:26,680
sauce or were kind of all together. So it's mayonnaise,

3980
03:40:26,799 --> 03:40:33,799
is it? And you know, Manai's on a burger always. Yeah,

3981
03:40:34,000 --> 03:40:34,959
I don't go with mayo.

3982
03:40:35,719 --> 03:40:37,719
Speaker 2: See, I don't know. If I have a king, I

3983
03:40:37,760 --> 03:40:40,239
would say it's barbecue sauce to myself, but not because

3984
03:40:40,239 --> 03:40:41,840
I think it's better than everything, but just because it

3985
03:40:41,959 --> 03:40:44,360
is the one thing that I know I like on

3986
03:40:44,520 --> 03:40:49,280
more than just one type of food. M M, yes, well,

3987
03:40:50,079 --> 03:40:53,479
and I do like barbecue sauce, but I'm not see.

3988
03:40:53,479 --> 03:40:55,479
I would never put in like mayonnaise on you know,

3989
03:40:55,920 --> 03:40:57,479
ribs or chicken. I can't.

3990
03:40:58,120 --> 03:41:00,319
Speaker 3: I like to, but I can't picture you would. I

3991
03:41:00,319 --> 03:41:02,360
would put mayonnaise on chicken. I would put mayonnaise on

3992
03:41:02,399 --> 03:41:04,760
a on a on a grilled chicken or a fried

3993
03:41:04,840 --> 03:41:08,840
chicken sandwich, no question. I wouldn't put barbecues on barbecue

3994
03:41:09,000 --> 03:41:11,239
unless I was doing a barbecue chicken sandwich.

3995
03:41:12,319 --> 03:41:14,239
Speaker 2: I'm supposed say hot honey. Now, isn't that supposed to

3996
03:41:14,239 --> 03:41:15,239
be my answer to that question.

3997
03:41:15,639 --> 03:41:20,319
Speaker 3: I'll tell you, man, I fucking love hot honey, little dab.

3998
03:41:21,120 --> 03:41:24,120
I know it's the coolest, doesn't mean it's not delicious.

3999
03:41:24,600 --> 03:41:27,879
There's a pizza place, and I there's a pizza place,

4000
03:41:28,760 --> 03:41:30,440
and that that's kind of the thing. Now, is hot

4001
03:41:30,479 --> 03:41:36,120
honey on pizza? It is so fucking The pepperoni with

4002
03:41:36,200 --> 03:41:41,000
it it's it's no, it's I get this. It's sausage,

4003
03:41:42,639 --> 03:41:47,879
jalapenos and hot honey, and it is un fucking believable.

4004
03:41:49,000 --> 03:41:55,120
It's heavenly correct hot honey. Wins Alli writes, what's the

4005
03:41:55,159 --> 03:41:57,280
best for an object? And why is it rolled steel?

4006
03:41:59,799 --> 03:42:03,280
Speaker 2: I can't imagine who we could ask that question too.

4007
03:42:04,840 --> 03:42:09,159
It's out there is a right's huge fan of the show.

4008
03:42:09,479 --> 03:42:11,360
While listening to the Spring mail Bag episode, the idea

4009
03:42:11,360 --> 03:42:13,319
of pilgrimage to old arenas was mentioned, and I have

4010
03:42:13,399 --> 03:42:15,200
to say, here in Detroit we might have the most

4011
03:42:15,319 --> 03:42:17,959
unique idea for lapsed arena pilgrimage. The Silver Dome, Joe

4012
03:42:18,040 --> 03:42:20,799
Louis Arena, and Palace of Auburn Hills have all been demolished,

4013
03:42:20,959 --> 03:42:24,159
but we still have Cobo Hall now known as Huntington Place,

4014
03:42:24,440 --> 03:42:26,840
where the famous Halloween Havoc monster truck battle took place

4015
03:42:26,879 --> 03:42:28,920
and where the giant fell off the roof, not to

4016
03:42:29,000 --> 03:42:32,600
mention the chic and Bobo Brazil's many exploits. Although I

4017
03:42:32,639 --> 03:42:35,239
have the recollection that the Cobo Hall that's referred to

4018
03:42:35,280 --> 03:42:37,760
as Cobo Hale now as like adjacent to where the

4019
03:42:37,840 --> 03:42:41,399
Sheik did his business. But I'll try to visit the

4020
03:42:41,440 --> 03:42:43,079
site soon and send you guys some photos from the

4021
03:42:43,120 --> 03:42:44,719
top of the roof, since I believe it's still used

4022
03:42:44,760 --> 03:42:47,079
for parking. As a side note, is Detroit the only

4023
03:42:47,120 --> 03:42:49,520
place where three major stadiums and arenas have been imploded

4024
03:42:49,559 --> 03:42:52,559
with so much wrestling history. Silver Dome with wrestlming E three,

4025
03:42:52,639 --> 03:42:55,600
Joe Lewis Arena with Halloween Havoc Survivor series, Austin on

4026
03:42:55,760 --> 03:42:58,360
rob with the Zamboni, and the Palace with SummerSlam, World

4027
03:42:58,399 --> 03:43:00,680
War three and Luger beating Hog on the one hundredth

4028
03:43:00,760 --> 03:43:03,799
edition of Nitro. It used to be better. Indeed, Yeah,

4029
03:43:04,559 --> 03:43:06,120
when I think of cities that a body, it used

4030
03:43:06,120 --> 03:43:08,239
to be better, Detroit is it. And I mean that

4031
03:43:08,399 --> 03:43:11,440
not as a smartest comment about it's hollowed out industrial base.

4032
03:43:11,719 --> 03:43:13,719
I mean that as a comment about wrestling and the

4033
03:43:13,799 --> 03:43:17,959
things that happen there. Yeah, nothing happens there anymore. The

4034
03:43:17,959 --> 03:43:18,399
business I know.

4035
03:43:18,520 --> 03:43:21,079
Speaker 3: It's such a it's it's sad. It's really sad.

4036
03:43:21,719 --> 03:43:24,360
Speaker 2: Jerome Rice, you mentioned people looking down and realizing what

4037
03:43:24,440 --> 03:43:27,000
the chairman are saying applies to them. As someone who

4038
03:43:27,040 --> 03:43:30,799
teaches multiple college English classes every time, Jack mentions that

4039
03:43:30,879 --> 03:43:33,399
in order to succeed in higher ed one should copy

4040
03:43:33,479 --> 03:43:36,680
the writing and speaking style of the professor. I feel

4041
03:43:36,680 --> 03:43:42,920
a little attacked, but he's right. Recently a student who

4042
03:43:42,920 --> 03:43:44,079
I know for a fact would not listen to the

4043
03:43:44,120 --> 03:43:47,319
lapsed fan told another student that same piece of advice. Well, yep,

4044
03:43:48,719 --> 03:43:51,680
you know, good ideas have a way of traveling. Uh, yes,

4045
03:43:51,840 --> 03:43:56,159
trailing fast. We're going to conclude this episode in recognition of,

4046
03:43:56,559 --> 03:44:00,280
you know, having lost hal Coogan by adding him to

4047
03:44:00,520 --> 03:44:03,920
the Ultimate WrestleMania Death Toll, which has been a running

4048
03:44:04,159 --> 03:44:07,040
tally kept by the homie Christian Hollister for years and

4049
03:44:07,159 --> 03:44:10,040
years and years. Oh yeah, and that he recently you know,

4050
03:44:10,399 --> 03:44:14,879
informed us uh included has as celebrity wing and everything,

4051
03:44:15,479 --> 03:44:18,200
but recently included uh hull Cogan as well. Now he

4052
03:44:18,280 --> 03:44:20,840
did send this, let me get the time stamp here.

4053
03:44:21,079 --> 03:44:23,200
He did send this several months ago, so there is

4054
03:44:23,280 --> 03:44:25,040
a chance that more than just Hull Cogan has been

4055
03:44:25,079 --> 03:44:28,639
added to the list. But I think it's appropriate as

4056
03:44:28,840 --> 03:44:32,120
we conclude this mailbag episode, the last one in a while,

4057
03:44:32,159 --> 03:44:36,520
and it's in its format. Let's see, Well, who's who's died? Well,

4058
03:44:36,879 --> 03:44:40,840
Mango and Sabu, Yeah, they were both at WrestleMania. That's true.

4059
03:44:41,040 --> 03:44:41,680
That's a good one.

4060
03:44:42,159 --> 03:44:44,000
Speaker 3: In fact, WrestleMania.

4061
03:44:44,959 --> 03:44:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, Yeah, I think he would, he would qualify,

4062
03:44:48,920 --> 03:44:49,879
Yeah for sure.

4063
03:44:50,159 --> 03:44:53,239
Speaker 3: So all right, so here we go. Oh my gosh,

4064
03:44:53,280 --> 03:44:54,920
look at look at these fucking this.

4065
03:44:55,399 --> 03:44:57,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he puts it well. Forty years

4066
03:44:57,399 --> 03:45:00,520
of pain, forty years of hurt, forty years of death.

4067
03:45:02,079 --> 03:45:04,799
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do I'm gonna do it backwards than what

4068
03:45:04,879 --> 03:45:07,079
he has here. I'm going to start with the celebrity

4069
03:45:07,120 --> 03:45:18,440
wing Achi Bono, Alex Trebek, Aretha Franklin, Bill Frelick, Billy Martin,

4070
03:45:19,200 --> 03:45:25,680
Bob Yucker, Bert Reynolds, Cab Cab Callaway. Was that fucking.

4071
03:45:31,680 --> 03:45:31,920
Speaker 4: With that?

4072
03:45:32,159 --> 03:45:37,959
Speaker 2: I just can this chet Copic, Chuck Webner, Clara Peller,

4073
03:45:38,399 --> 03:45:47,680
Darryl Dawkins, Dick Butkis, Ernie Holmes, g Gordon Lyddy, George Steinbrenner,

4074
03:45:48,239 --> 03:45:55,840
Harvey Martin, jam Master Jay, Joan Rivers, Joe Frasier, John

4075
03:45:56,079 --> 03:45:59,920
Mennick as Herb. I don't know what that means.

4076
03:46:00,000 --> 03:46:00,600
Speaker 3: I don't know what that is.

4077
03:46:00,840 --> 03:46:05,600
Speaker 2: Oh, Herb is the guy from the Burger King ad campaign,

4078
03:46:06,520 --> 03:46:10,680
Oh oh oh, that they hired to show WrestleMania because

4079
03:46:10,719 --> 03:46:12,440
he was somewhat famous on TV.

4080
03:46:12,840 --> 03:46:20,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lemmy Liberaci, Little Richard Lou Duva married Tyler Moore.

4081
03:46:23,319 --> 03:46:28,479
Oh my god, she was at WrestleMania for Morton Downey Junior, Muhammad,

4082
03:46:28,479 --> 03:46:34,159
Ali Pee Weee Herman, Pete Rose, Ray, Charles Ray Combs,

4083
03:46:36,159 --> 03:46:43,840
Reggie White, Regis Philbin, Robert Conrad, Robert Gulay, Robin Leech,

4084
03:46:44,680 --> 03:46:50,280
Russ Francis, Steve Allen, Cy Spurling, and William the Refrigerator,

4085
03:46:50,360 --> 03:46:57,520
Perry Referees, Dick Kroll, Henry Terra, Nova, Jack Lutz, Joey Morella,

4086
03:46:58,079 --> 03:47:08,840
Mickey Henson, Tim White, and now the wrestlers, wrestlers, managers

4087
03:47:08,879 --> 03:47:15,760
and announcers is what it's listed as. Adrian Adonis, Andre

4088
03:47:15,879 --> 03:47:23,920
the Giant Animal, Bad News Brown, Bam Bam, Bigelow, The

4089
03:47:23,959 --> 03:47:32,959
Big Boss Man, Big John stud Bobby the Brain, Heenan Bray, Wyatt, Bruno,

4090
03:47:33,120 --> 03:47:42,360
Sam Martino, Bushwhacker, Butch Butch Reid, Captain Lou Albano, Chris Benoit,

4091
03:47:43,159 --> 03:47:53,479
Chris Canyon, China, Classy, Freddie Blassie, Corporal Kirchner, Crash, Holly Crush,

4092
03:47:54,799 --> 03:48:02,920
Davey boy Smith, Dino Bravo, Doug Furnaces, Dusty Rhodes, the

4093
03:48:03,079 --> 03:48:10,639
Dynamite Kid, Earthquake, Eddie Guerrero, the Executioner, the Fabulous Moolah,

4094
03:48:11,079 --> 03:48:17,719
Frenchie Martin, General, Adnon, the Genius, George, the Animal Steel,

4095
03:48:18,559 --> 03:48:29,680
the Giant, Gonzales, Gorilla Monsoon, Grand Master Sexe, the Haiti Kid, Hawk, Hercules, Hernandez,

4096
03:48:30,440 --> 03:48:36,040
Howard Finkel, the Iron Chic, Jim the Anvil, Knightheart, Jimmy

4097
03:48:36,440 --> 03:48:45,639
del Rey, Jose Lathario, the Junkyard Dog, Kamala King Kong, Bundy,

4098
03:48:46,000 --> 03:48:52,920
Kogi Catal Lance, Cad Little Beaver, Little Tokyo, Lord, Alfred Hayes,

4099
03:48:53,280 --> 03:48:59,479
Lord Littlebrook, Luke Harper Slash, Brodie Lee, Luna Vashan, Luscious

4100
03:48:59,559 --> 03:49:07,120
Johnny Valiant, Mabel May Young, Matt Bourne, Mean, gene Oakerland,

4101
03:49:07,719 --> 03:49:13,479
Mister Fuji, Mister Perfect, Kurt Hennig, Mister Wonderful, Paul Orndorf,

4102
03:49:13,719 --> 03:49:21,719
Miss Elizabeth, Nikolai Volkoff, Owen Hart, Pat Patterson, Paul Bearer,

4103
03:49:22,399 --> 03:49:31,920
Pedro Morales, Randy Savage, Ravishing, Rick Rude, Razor, Ramon Slash,

4104
03:49:31,959 --> 03:49:41,079
Scott Hall, Rowdy, Roddy Piper, Saboo, SD Special Delivery Jones,

4105
03:49:42,120 --> 03:49:51,959
The Sensational Sherry, Sir Oliver Humperdenk Superfly, Jimmy Snooku, I

4106
03:49:52,000 --> 03:49:57,479
should have added before that, Steve Mongo, McMichael, Superstar, Billy Graham,

4107
03:49:58,440 --> 03:50:08,440
Sweet Sweet Sapphire, Skip, Chris Candido, Psycho, Sid Terry Funk Test,

4108
03:50:09,920 --> 03:50:15,040
the Texas Tornado Carry Von Eric, Tom zenk U Manga,

4109
03:50:16,239 --> 03:50:25,840
Uncle Elmer, the Ultimate Warrior, Vodder, Virgil, Woman, Yoko Zuna,

4110
03:50:27,399 --> 03:50:33,000
Hulk Hogan and as always the Undertaker.

4111
03:50:35,879 --> 03:50:39,559
Speaker 2: A grim list yeah when we started.

4112
03:50:39,680 --> 03:50:43,360
Speaker 3: I mean, let me tell you, that's that's ninety seven

4113
03:50:44,520 --> 03:50:46,280
on the wrestlers and managers.

4114
03:50:45,879 --> 03:50:48,079
Speaker 2: Alone, unjust WrestleMania.

4115
03:50:47,399 --> 03:50:49,520
Speaker 3: Alone, un Just WrestleMania alone.

4116
03:50:49,799 --> 03:50:53,280
Speaker 2: And that list was a third, maybe twenty percent of

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what it is when we started this whole thing. Yeah,

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and so it's only appropriate that we revisit so many

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of those halcyon days that characterize the early days of

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the cast and the eras we were reaching for. They

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were draped in red and yellow, and the cast will

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be once again as we send off the Hulkster, the

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Guy in so many ways at the nucleus of it

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all going forward. We look forward to seeing you August

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third at the Comedy Village in Times Square, New York City,

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as the co chairman take the stage to put it

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all in a perspective, including a special vigil for the Hulkster.

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Hear thoughts and sentiments from across the Solar System, and

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we'll get right back on the horse to complete Hulk

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Hogan on that cast