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<v Speaker 1>Hul Kingston Rovers are well and truly back. Huddersfield won

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<v Speaker 1>after their coach got the sack. Leeds ended Warrington's unbeaten

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<v Speaker 1>run amidst all the Super League thirtieth birthday fun well

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<v Speaker 1>left c came fast out of the gates. Lee and

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<v Speaker 1>John are here with all the updates. Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>fifteenth episode of Super League three sixty, a podcast primarily

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<v Speaker 1>about the top tier of British rugby league. My name

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<v Speaker 1>is Lee Addison, my name is John Davidson, and I

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<v Speaker 1>have to laugh now, I have to laugh. He's been

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<v Speaker 1>laughing at me all Australian summer when I've been bleary

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<v Speaker 1>eyed and drinking my coffee or mat tea and I've

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<v Speaker 1>been complaining and now the boot is on the other

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<v Speaker 1>foot and that's why we're out a little bit later.

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<v Speaker 1>Blame Greenwich meantime.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, very true, really true.

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia. John a journalist in the UK. This podcast

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<v Speaker 1>I think after the Whoter this week will be after

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<v Speaker 1>the Good Friday fixtures, three fixtures that we can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about John on the at the end of Good Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Bumper Friday and the whole derby at midday Wigan

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<v Speaker 3>and Wigan I should say, that's says on the original

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<v Speaker 3>Derby or three o'clock and then Bradford Leeds for I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's something like the first time in twelve years.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're expecting a crowd of around fifteen thousand

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<v Speaker 3>odds and so I'm sure that'll be a cracker as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking of the first time in X amount of years,

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<v Speaker 1>how many times have Wigan played Saint Helen's on Good

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<v Speaker 1>Friday after being battered the week before in Saint Helen's

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<v Speaker 1>case and beaten in a shock circumstance in Wiggans case.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I think there's probably been. Oh I

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<v Speaker 3>saw a Wiggan fan tweets after the said Helens came about,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you know, Saint Helens will get a center places

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<v Speaker 3>sent off and come back and beat us by two

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<v Speaker 3>tries or something. So I has invested that that that's

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<v Speaker 3>happened on occasion, but probably not to Helen's been what

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<v Speaker 3>put fifty on end Wigan getting beaten by the bottom

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<v Speaker 3>team and the companyhouse for.

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<v Speaker 1>That, that was unbelievable. I mean, just to put that

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<v Speaker 1>into some kind of context. John, because it was the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of my name, because I'm in Brisbane, I checked

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<v Speaker 1>the score if I wake up in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the night, and I just assumed, because it didn't look

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<v Speaker 1>properly that we're going Tod won by that score line

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<v Speaker 1>and just close the phone, went back to sleep. And

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<v Speaker 1>then also because you're a sado and you're checking scores

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<v Speaker 1>and them and what not. Yeah, some of us have

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<v Speaker 1>got to be diligent, John, Some of us have got

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<v Speaker 1>to be diligent. Please speculate about what John checks in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the night on his phone, please. I

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<v Speaker 1>think all all correspondents pertaining to that should go to

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<v Speaker 1>admin at Rugby League Coach dot com to say you

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<v Speaker 1>are at Rugby League Coach on socials, Johnny, remind everybody

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<v Speaker 1>of your contact details not to send you speculation about

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<v Speaker 1>what you do in the middle of the night.

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<v Speaker 3>You can get me on X or Twitter, Johnny d Davidson.

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<v Speaker 3>You can get me on Facebook. John Davidson, journalist.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to go quickly through the ladder, John,

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<v Speaker 1>because we've not done that yet. Tom This's podcast. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to top still on ten points. Warrington are in

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<v Speaker 1>second place, so we've had six rounds, but Warrington have

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<v Speaker 1>only played five games and Warrington are two points behind

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<v Speaker 1>Wigan now after dying Wiggans loss Lee Rhinos in third

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<v Speaker 1>after their great win against Warrington yesterday. Their points difference

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<v Speaker 1>isn't too far off either. Wiggans actually wakefielder in fourth.

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<v Speaker 1>They've sort of crept up there. They've ended up in

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<v Speaker 1>third at one point this weekend. They're on eight points.

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Helen's fifth on eight points. Bradford are still on

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<v Speaker 1>sixth despite their defeats to Castleford Tigers. I assume we've

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<v Speaker 1>got that one right, John Well left c resurgent Are

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<v Speaker 1>on six points two but in seventh due to a

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<v Speaker 1>worse points differential. Catalan Dragons. They've not had a bad

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<v Speaker 1>season so far Cattalan Dragons overall, but they find themselves

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<v Speaker 1>Lee Leppards who would want to be a lot higher

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<v Speaker 1>there in twelfth on four points, Castleford Tigers on four

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<v Speaker 1>points and Huddersfield Giants got their first two points of

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<v Speaker 1>the season against Wigan, but they're still on the bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>The big news this week, John, I think is Willie Peters.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it leaving Hulkingston Rovers for Baban New Guinea.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, there's been there's been quite a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>news this week, but I think that's the one. Look

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<v Speaker 3>it's been talking about in this train meeting for a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of weeks. I think they've all said he was

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<v Speaker 3>the favorite arm for the PG job, and then it

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<v Speaker 3>was affirming it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is massive news.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I think he's always been I think he was

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<v Speaker 3>contracted to the end of next year at Whole Car,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's always said, you wanted to go back to

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<v Speaker 3>the mL at some point he's done. I think four years, OK,

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<v Speaker 3>are fantastic, you know, contribution to the club, changed the club.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty twenty five was amazing, beating the Broncos World Club

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<v Speaker 3>Channel for awful trophies. It's just, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 3>the time is probably perfect for him. It's great upportunity

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<v Speaker 3>and pagel As we talked about to build a roster,

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<v Speaker 3>build a club from scratch and you know, get the

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<v Speaker 3>Istraian tax payer to pay for it three hundred million

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<v Speaker 3>pounds or six hundred million dollars Australian.

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<v Speaker 1>A tough job for him, very tough job.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but yeah, it's the Whole Car. It's it's sad news.

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<v Speaker 3>But they knew he was going to go back at

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<v Speaker 3>some time, like he was never going to do a

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a Tony Smith or a Phil Avivas, and

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<v Speaker 3>that he was going to be there for thirty years.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it'd be really fascinating who who they look

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<v Speaker 3>to replace him with because I only had two new

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<v Speaker 3>assistants come in a couple of months ago, really, and

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't say there's like a dearth of local coaches

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<v Speaker 3>out there who you would say are ready to take

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<v Speaker 3>a top Super League job.

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<v Speaker 1>As the journalist on the panel, who are you saying

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<v Speaker 1>is in line to replace him?

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<v Speaker 2>There's not really been any firm candidates coming out as yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I think Ian Watson, he's one of the assistants

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<v Speaker 3>who obviously has a lot of experience, did a fantastic

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<v Speaker 3>job at Salford, got them to a Grand Final, got

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<v Speaker 3>him to a Challenge Cup Final, went to Hardest Field,

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<v Speaker 3>started off really well Hardestfield, got them to third on

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<v Speaker 3>the table and Challenge Cup Final, and then it all

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<v Speaker 3>went wrong a Huddersfield and I got sacked. I think

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<v Speaker 3>he's a really good coach personally, really good guy, a

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<v Speaker 3>really good coach. His style maybe you know, he's a

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<v Speaker 3>bit more sort of you know, focused on defense and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, not the most player. Maybe that wouldn't go

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<v Speaker 3>down with Hooker, but I think he would be a

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<v Speaker 3>candidate In terms of other coaches. Look, i think I've

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<v Speaker 3>got an assistant coach in the RL, Willie Peters, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think that could be an opportunity. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of hungry assistance, isn't there in the NRL

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<v Speaker 3>who are looking for jobs. You know, whether it be

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<v Speaker 3>Ben hornby Den Young, you know, Matt Ballen. There's quite

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<v Speaker 3>a few, isn't there. But obviously that that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>links to the mainly job as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it depends where the cards fall, doesn't he Well, I've.

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<v Speaker 3>Heard let me just say one last thing. I've heard

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<v Speaker 3>one wild comment out there about Adrian Lamb. Maybe, obviously

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<v Speaker 3>I think Adrian Lamb was a candidate candidate for the

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<v Speaker 3>been a very smart choice. But you know, he's done

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<v Speaker 3>a great job at Lee and maybe he's looking for

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<v Speaker 3>a new challenge. So yeah, it's a very intriguing prospect

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<v Speaker 3>for wholeky artist sort out in the next couple of months.

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<v Speaker 1>Quite an open field, I suppose. Look, I've got my

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<v Speaker 1>the fact he's got a very good agent who gets

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<v Speaker 1>his clients things. And this is one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's not popular as an agent. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Sebald will be after this job in a big way.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet the call has already happened, yeah, I bet.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, his name has been mentioned on online as in

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<v Speaker 3>by fans, but yeah, I mean it personally as a

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<v Speaker 3>mainly fan.

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<v Speaker 2>As most people know.

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<v Speaker 3>If you look at his coaching career sacked at Brisbane,

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<v Speaker 3>sacked at Mainly. Look, he did do well at the

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<v Speaker 3>house in a brief time, but I don't think throughout

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<v Speaker 3>his whole coaching career, and I think that includes when

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<v Speaker 3>he was in charge of the Melbourne Stone managers.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he never won a Grand Final or

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<v Speaker 1>a premiership. That's right, you don't, you don't. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to sell that to me. However, he has got

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<v Speaker 1>a manager who was very good in Isaac Moses was

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<v Speaker 1>very good at getting his clients things. And one thing

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony se Ball will do if he gets an audience,

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<v Speaker 1>he will put on some kind of show and he's

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<v Speaker 1>very good. He will be very good at convincing the

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<v Speaker 1>whole k Are board that he's the man and he played.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but personally, in my opinion, I don't think that.

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<v Speaker 1>Would be the right choice for the other one is

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<v Speaker 1>Steve McNamara is a head coach and he happens to

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<v Speaker 1>be an assistant at the moment, and he will he

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<v Speaker 1>will want to be a head coach again. Now what

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about Steve McNamara, even though he did

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<v Speaker 1>play for whole FT. I don't know if originally he's

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<v Speaker 1>a kr boy or a whole FC.

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you that. I can tell you the.

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<v Speaker 3>St McNamara is a where his dad played for HALFC.

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<v Speaker 3>He played for C and his son has played for now.

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<v Speaker 3>The interesting thing just with Steve McNamara. And look, this

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<v Speaker 3>is speculation, but I'm hearing noises about John Cartwright's future.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing concrete but and I need to check, but he

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<v Speaker 3>might be off contract next year at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the year. I'm not sure whether he's contract for next

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<v Speaker 3>year or not. But I'm here some noises And you

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<v Speaker 3>know about Steve McNamara being an ideal potential hive CE

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<v Speaker 3>coach because of his links to the city. I think

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<v Speaker 3>his family still lives in the city and he's a

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<v Speaker 3>great coach. And the other one is obviously, And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure we'll talk about this in a bit about Brot

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<v Speaker 3>Arthur's future.

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<v Speaker 2>So whether good shift to heaving me.

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<v Speaker 3>So look, I think it's it seems to happen maybe

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<v Speaker 3>once a year in the world of rugby leagu because

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<v Speaker 2>That things move and then there's like, yeah, and we

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<v Speaker 3>Well We had a few times last year, but we

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<v Speaker 1>And that's another name, that's another name on my list.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the interesting with Paul Wellens is he was going

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<v Speaker 3>interesting how this all says. And I think you were

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<v Speaker 3>while the iron's hot. And first the first card has

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<v Speaker 3>landed in Willie Peters and PNG and we will see.

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<v Speaker 1>You as soon as he signed. As soon as he

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<v Speaker 1>Now I've got one more name for you, John Morris.

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<v Speaker 1>apparently he's had a couple of fallouts a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>Is he is he a staff at Crannello? The man

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember he was. Yeah, yeah, Look I think

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<v Speaker 3>look I remember him as a player. He was a

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<v Speaker 3>great player, like for underrated, you know, like just hard work, rates, skillful,

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<v Speaker 3>small And I have read that that he's got, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think he had he was caretaker West.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't he for a bid?

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<v Speaker 3>And I think Gala and I think he's got a

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<v Speaker 3>coming and our old assistant coaches who Yeah, it could

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like that suggestion.

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<v Speaker 1>Gavin Quinn asketors on X. Who will Willie Peters wanna

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<v Speaker 3>I'll throw one, Yeah, I mean, I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 3>take Michael Lewis and Jes Letting. Look, I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>look that's possible about Minchella. Yeah, I mean I think

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<v Speaker 3>with Michael Lewis, he's had the opportunity to go to

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<v Speaker 3>he's a very like he's got a young son who's

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<v Speaker 3>I think one or so, and he's a very whole lad.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how he would go, and yeah, you

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<v Speaker 3>Sydney or Brisbane or or wherever. Yeah, so I think

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<v Speaker 3>I was chatting about this to someone. I think it

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<v Speaker 3>to target I think, at least initially, you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>target older players who are married, probably with want young children,

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<v Speaker 3>because you need that experience and you're not Look, if

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<v Speaker 2>Be looking for nightclubs and.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you want to build a family, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>targeting I don't think Michael Wilis is one Eli Minchell.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't think Willie would want to screw

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<v Speaker 3>but he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Also got he's also got to survive where he is

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<v Speaker 1>and where he's going. Sorry, and there is a massive

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<v Speaker 1>misconception in this country Australia. I'm talking about that there's

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<v Speaker 1>not enough talent to go around. That's absolutely boulder dash.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's another story and that's why we've seen so

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<v Speaker 1>many English players over in the NRL now and with

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I think that'll look.

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<v Speaker 3>There's also a risk to bring players who haven't played NROL,

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<v Speaker 3>so I think they'll look first off for years, Amy Coats,

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<v Speaker 3>you're Locke and Lambs. Your players who either have PNG

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<v Speaker 3>heritage or were born in PNG, but who are experienced

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<v Speaker 3>in the NRL. I think that be their first like

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<v Speaker 3>the Dolphins did. If you remember the Dolphins, they signed

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<v Speaker 3>basically Melbourne's forward pack. Didn't they be aging But they

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<v Speaker 3>find the Bromwich brothers, Cafusi and I signed that ball

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<v Speaker 3>front roll from Sias that you know you need some

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<v Speaker 3>experienced gnard heads and I think that's you know, that'll

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<v Speaker 3>be part of the way they go.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think there's any guarantee that he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to got the whole KR.

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<v Speaker 1>And take it to Portmosby your tweet of the week,

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<v Speaker 1>have got to The committee was split on this. The

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<v Speaker 1>committee is only me. So so this is a Johnny D.

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<v Speaker 1>Davidson on x DO like this Warrington ac Milan kit.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the first one I pulled out. Now, good

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<v Speaker 1>explanation of the kids. A lovely kid. However, I do

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<v Speaker 1>feel they missed a trick in that thirtieth anniversary game.

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<v Speaker 1>They should have commissioned leads in a jersey like the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety six to one with the start and Warrington

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<v Speaker 1>should have played in the green and white deck chair.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I would have done yesterday, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>should have auctioned them off and raised money for whoever

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<v Speaker 3>In my opinion, I think that Listen Helen's kid on

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<v Speaker 3>Florida and I was great, but the way they played

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<v Speaker 3>they should probably never Yeah. I looked like I looked

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<v Speaker 3>like Sheffield Wednesday, and they played like Sheffield Wednesday, which

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<v Speaker 3>for anyone who's bloody.

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<v Speaker 1>Terrible, Yeah, it's not good. And that does literally look

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<v Speaker 1>like a deck chair that jersey. You then did a

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<v Speaker 1>tweet where you named your Super League one to thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>as Jamie Lyon, Jamie Lyon, Jamie and Jamie. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say it wasn't a joke, but then you

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<v Speaker 1>came up with one and John. Your You're thirteen was

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Tompkins, Ryan Hall, Jamie Lyon, Keith SR, Tommy Makinson,

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<v Speaker 1>Danny McGuire, Rob Burrow, Jamie Peacock, James Roby, Adrian Mawley,

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<v Speaker 1>Liam Farrell, Andy Farrell and Kevin Sinfield. Now I want

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<v Speaker 1>to argue with you, so Sam Tomkins excellent. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to throw Paul Wellens in there as an option. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I was at Wigan, I just felt Paul Wellens

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<v Speaker 1>was just that little bit better than Chris radlan Ski,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly defensively and whatnot. So Paul Paul Wellens is a

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<v Speaker 1>is a name in there. In terms of Ryan Hall

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<v Speaker 1>and Tommy Makinson. I would throw in the names Leslie Vnicolo.

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<v Speaker 1>And you did admit that you'd only been watching Super

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<v Speaker 1>League for so long.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we just proface before you go through the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't pro face my attament the fact that I

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<v Speaker 3>moved to the UK in twenty third and then started

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<v Speaker 3>watching Super lank covering it, so mine's basically based on

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<v Speaker 3>the last thirty years. There wasn't really a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>coverage of Super League before that, or very very very rare,

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, I know there was great as before,

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<v Speaker 3>but I didn't see a lot of them. And Vanacola

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<v Speaker 3>I remember a camera and he was great camera. But

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<v Speaker 3>I know he went to Bradford and was unbelievable for Bradford.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that's and I put my hand up and

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<v Speaker 3>say it's weighted towards the players that I've seen and

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<v Speaker 3>or no more of you did say that Jason Robinson

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<v Speaker 3>is worth a shout on the other wing too, Martin

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<v Speaker 3>Martin Gleeson with Jason.

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<v Speaker 2>Robinson, would you not say, I know what four years?

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<v Speaker 3>I think he went to rugby in two thousands, so

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<v Speaker 3>many played four years of Super League.

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<v Speaker 1>But he got in the Super League Dream Team five times.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a freak.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's one of the best winners all time

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<v Speaker 3>in rugby league history. I would saying in that absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>Danny McGuire at six. I've resisted this call basically, but

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<v Speaker 3>so many people have told me Bevan French is one

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<v Speaker 3>of the best players ever in super League, So would

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<v Speaker 3>he not be married? I would say, look, I think

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<v Speaker 3>Marion French has been and I would say Danny McGuire

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<v Speaker 3>because he won was it eight Grand Finals and scored

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<v Speaker 3>fifty eight thousand tries?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would say for your longevity. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I've also listed Henry Paul who was excellent for Bradford

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<v Speaker 1>and the Bulls were real big and Leon Price. Leon

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<v Speaker 1>Price was excellent standoff. Definitely instead of Rob Burrow, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have thought sean long great player in the props.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm throwing two other names in there, Stuart Field and

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<v Speaker 1>James Graham.

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<v Speaker 2>James Graham massive part of his career in the.

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<v Speaker 1>NRL, so yeah, still a very good Super League prop

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<v Speaker 1>though it was Yeah, some of them, some of the players,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Leslie Vano spent a fair bit of his

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<v Speaker 1>time in the NRL. So you know it's it's Adrian Morley.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got Adrian Morley in there. He played a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time at Sydney Rouge the Hookers. Again, James Roby,

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<v Speaker 1>I've had a bit to do with him, great player.

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<v Speaker 1>Buthm and Terry Newton. There was an era in the

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<v Speaker 1>early two thousands where again you could probably hold a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of paper between Kieran Cunningham and Terry Newton. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just that Kieran Cunningham won the won the trophies with

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<v Speaker 1>the team. And the good thing about Kieran Cunningham and

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<v Speaker 1>Terry Newton were there both. They were both big bodies

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<v Speaker 1>didn't particularly want to run at Terry Newton, that's for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>so they could be all sorts going into that tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>not just the shoulder. Second rowers. I don't think Liam

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<v Speaker 1>Farrell is in the same league as Sayer Gareth Ellis.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Gareth Ellis was excellent. Chris joint Of also

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned in there as well. He looked awkward Chris joined

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<v Speaker 1>and he looked like he was so sad when he

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<v Speaker 1>was playing. He had he's head down quite a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was a fantastic second rower. And then of

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<v Speaker 1>course we've got the discussion of where we put Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>Farrell Paul Schulthorpe. Yes, so so Paul Thorpe, you went

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Simfield at Lock that loose forward and I think

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<v Speaker 1>with Farrell and Paul Schulthorpe they're both off off of

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<v Speaker 1>things at Lock and they both loose forward, and they

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<v Speaker 1>both offer things that can be used in the second role,

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<v Speaker 1>So I would probably interchange them during the game.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, I think never, you can never. With those

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<v Speaker 3>kind of teams, you can never. You're always leaving good

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<v Speaker 3>players out. And I think if you have an a bench,

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<v Speaker 3>you definitely have players in seventeen, players like Skulthorpe, Sinfield.

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<v Speaker 3>You know these guys Price who can play center five

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<v Speaker 3>eighths an if you're not playing front road ay for

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<v Speaker 3>a bit, like they just freaks, you know, So you

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<v Speaker 3>have you have, Yeah, there's there's just so many good

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<v Speaker 3>players that yeah, you never you never.

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<v Speaker 1>Know when ever getting to agree on a perfect thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why the discussion, that's why the discussion is

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<v Speaker 1>so good. The Rugby League tweet of the week and

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<v Speaker 1>also Lee's laugh, was from Matt Kennell, who said, not

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<v Speaker 1>seeing Warrington's right wing, this toothle wasn't exposed on primetime

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<v Speaker 1>TV since that time. Farage got milkshake outside Woolies in

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<v Speaker 1>town Johnny's jab this week, you want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Martin Vickers. Something's happened there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well it's a very interesting I heard a rumor

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<v Speaker 3>a while back So for people who don't know Martin Vickers,

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<v Speaker 3>I was to see at Featherstone for several years. To

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<v Speaker 3>be I guess careful how I framed this, but look,

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<v Speaker 3>I think if you don't know Martin vickers history in

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<v Speaker 3>British rugby league, you can google him. He worked at Salford.

422
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<v Speaker 3>He used to see Salford and mar and cu Cash.

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<v Speaker 3>He worked at Swinton. Briefly he was the I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was some sort of business manager or you know.

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<v Speaker 3>He had a senior role at Toronto wolf Pack. We

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<v Speaker 3>see Featherston and now has joined the commercial department at Bradford.

427
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<v Speaker 2>Now it's Alford.

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<v Speaker 3>There's allegations about money not being paid to players and

429
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<v Speaker 3>suppliers and they reached the salary cap in that time Toronto,

430
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<v Speaker 3>same thing, money not being paid. Toronto eventually went bust

431
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<v Speaker 3>with millions zero to players and suppliers and coaches, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 3>Featherston as we went into administration and then in December

433
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<v Speaker 3>again I did a series of stories in early twenty

434
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<v Speaker 3>twenty four about you know, players taking the club to

435
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<v Speaker 3>court over money, you know one employment trivials, et cetera.

436
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<v Speaker 2>So there is a pattern there.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not implying anything you can, you know, go to

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<v Speaker 3>Google and yeah, just my my point is why do

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<v Speaker 3>these clubs employ these sorts of people with these kind

440
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<v Speaker 3>of cvs?

441
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<v Speaker 2>Like how stupid ronic do you have to be?

442
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<v Speaker 3>And I've had that many people after I published that

443
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<v Speaker 3>story yesterday messaged me and I'm talking like legends of

444
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<v Speaker 3>their sport, you know, CEOs eccess, Like what are they?

445
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<v Speaker 2>What are Bradford doing?

446
00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:19.519
<v Speaker 3>And it is weird because Bradford give a lot Bradford

447
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<v Speaker 3>a lot of credit. They've done a lot to get

448
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<v Speaker 3>back in the Super League. They're doing their best to

449
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<v Speaker 3>fix onsore. They're doing really well on the field. I

450
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<v Speaker 3>think Kurt Haggy it's a brilliant coach. They deserve you know,

451
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<v Speaker 3>the crowds have been great, deserve a lot of credit,

452
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<v Speaker 3>but just why hire him? Like yeah, it's just it's

453
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<v Speaker 3>just a bad look. And I think a lot of fans,

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<v Speaker 3>particularly Featherston fans, Alford fans, Toronto fans have been incensed

455
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<v Speaker 3>as well.

456
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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's a really it's a really weird one.

457
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<v Speaker 3>You're the Englishmen, and you know you lived and breathed

458
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<v Speaker 3>and worked in English rugby league for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you explain it. How these people keep getting recycled.

460
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<v Speaker 3>And it's not just Martin because there's it happens with

461
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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people, and in the British rugby league.

462
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<v Speaker 1>It happens. In Australia.

463
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<v Speaker 2>It seems to happen a lot more because it's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot smaller in I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think, why does it happen? I think there's something about

466
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<v Speaker 1>rugby league. I always think. I always describe rugby league

467
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<v Speaker 1>people as like a scarecrow. They're there to scare anybody

468
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<v Speaker 1>else away. And how dare you come into the our

469
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<v Speaker 1>patch that is ours and you scratch my back and

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<v Speaker 1>I scratch yours yep, And I think that probably answers

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<v Speaker 1>the question anyway. Talking about bursting bursting through glass ceilings, Johnny,

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<v Speaker 1>you've been nominated for an award with a load of

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<v Speaker 1>rugby union writers.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, I've been shortlisted for Rugby Journalists of the

475
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<v Speaker 3>Year at the British Sports Journalism Awards. It was very

476
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<v Speaker 3>nice of the Ie paper to nominate me for the

477
00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:11.240
<v Speaker 3>work I did for them last year. And yeah, surprised

478
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<v Speaker 3>to be shortlisted with five other well five of rugby.

479
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<v Speaker 2>Joe. I don't think rugby league.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a few people contact me and said they

481
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<v Speaker 3>can't remember when rugby leagues have been nominated in this

482
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<v Speaker 3>for journalism, So yeah, it's it's a massive honor. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>looking forward to I don't think hell shits of winning,

484
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<v Speaker 3>but I'm looking forward to.

485
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<v Speaker 1>Well done, well done. It'd be a nice pistol some

486
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<v Speaker 1>night somewhere fancy. So the London Palladium play down with

487
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<v Speaker 1>the Capital the biggest when when you go up on

488
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<v Speaker 1>stage to get your award, don't don't call anybody a

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<v Speaker 1>name you shouldn't, right, or don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Said that you need to get some new lines.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, all right, let's go through some news items

492
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<v Speaker 1>if you like, or discussion items before we go through

493
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<v Speaker 1>last week results. Question the giant are unleash?

494
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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Is Liam Finn or Andy Kelly the interim head coach?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that's a bizarre one because I mean

497
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<v Speaker 3>they named Andy Kelly, who's the director run. He did

498
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<v Speaker 3>the midweek press conference, but then at the game it

499
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<v Speaker 3>was Liam Finn in the box corner shots and then

500
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<v Speaker 3>he did the.

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00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Post match And I've also seen it written on TV

502
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<v Speaker 1>interim assistant coach and I've also seen interim coach.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean you currently be an interim you wouldn't

504
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<v Speaker 3>be an interim assistant coach. He is an assistant coach. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the bizarre one. And I had to chuckle because I

506
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<v Speaker 3>don't know what had a feel for pain. But it

507
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<v Speaker 3>would have been massive odds to win that game. My

508
00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:53.759
<v Speaker 3>piece on the Giants crisis was online on Thursday, but

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<v Speaker 3>then renting Saturday's paper on the ice.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course they win the first character that day.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you remember last week a podcast we work

512
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<v Speaker 1>off We've got their training run agates orders Field.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that's the beauty of that's the beauty

514
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<v Speaker 3>of spoilers that look at But I think when you

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<v Speaker 3>look at it, and I didn't. I've seen the highlights

516
00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:15.599
<v Speaker 3>of the game. I didn't watch it live. But Haddersfield

517
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<v Speaker 3>had nigh levels back. They had Adam klehmanback, that had

518
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<v Speaker 3>wolf about. I had a whole spine back and talking

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<v Speaker 3>to people someone yesterday who was at the game, Wigan

520
00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:29.000
<v Speaker 3>were very poor and Haddersfield everything went their way like

521
00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:29.559
<v Speaker 3>they were good.

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<v Speaker 2>Look your sock a coach.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, in across all sportsly sometimes you get a

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<v Speaker 3>response the next week that kind of puts and also

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<v Speaker 3>Hardersfield were going to win a game at some point,

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<v Speaker 3>like I joked, because I've seen them a fair bit

527
00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:45.079
<v Speaker 3>earlier season, like they were so bad, you can't say,

528
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<v Speaker 3>but even the worst teams win a game.

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<v Speaker 1>Well not at the top of the table. Well look

530
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:54.240
<v Speaker 1>at their ground. It just doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I think we can you know, they're definitely without

532
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<v Speaker 3>the two best player in the competition in French and

533
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<v Speaker 3>Field like they are.

534
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<v Speaker 1>I've come back to the part of it, John, They've

535
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<v Speaker 1>come back to the Yeah.

536
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I hadn't lost a game, so they were

537
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:09.240
<v Speaker 3>they were going to drop a game at some point.

538
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<v Speaker 3>But full credit to Huddersfield, I think, you know, if

539
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<v Speaker 3>you're Luke Robinson, you're like, wtf, you know, because the

540
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<v Speaker 3>big thing is they had a number of their injured players,

541
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<v Speaker 3>but they had their spine back. So yeah, that was

542
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<v Speaker 3>a that was a remarkable result, you know, and I

543
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<v Speaker 3>think we're going to be Maydie Pete I think.

544
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<v Speaker 2>Was very gracious.

545
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<v Speaker 3>He just feel were much much better than I deserved

546
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<v Speaker 3>the wind and yeah, that's all there is to it.

547
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<v Speaker 1>Super League celebrated thirty years. Tell us what happened. I've

548
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<v Speaker 1>not seen I've not seen the celebrations. Basically, I've seen

549
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:49.359
<v Speaker 1>clips on socials, but yeah, there wasn't a procession.

550
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<v Speaker 2>Down you know.

551
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:51.599
<v Speaker 1>The Hemmings came back.

552
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, you look.

553
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<v Speaker 3>I think I've not watched the coverage back because I

554
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<v Speaker 3>was out having yesterday. But there was sixteen thousand people there.

555
00:30:58.480 --> 00:31:01.839
<v Speaker 3>I think Sky has done a great job throughout the week.

556
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<v Speaker 3>You know, the shirts, I think they were it was

557
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:11.480
<v Speaker 3>great at casts the Yeah, the retro shirts. So obviously

558
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:14.279
<v Speaker 3>a lot of teams were playing in six.

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00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Kiit or yeah, Bo Warrington and Leeds didn't.

560
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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't know.

561
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:24.839
<v Speaker 3>I don't know the reasons exactly for that, but look,

562
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<v Speaker 3>there was sixteen thousand headly.

563
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:28.119
<v Speaker 2>It was absolutely terrible.

564
00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:31.720
<v Speaker 3>There was the wind was howling and it was about

565
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:34.400
<v Speaker 3>one degrees with the windshill fact and a pissed down

566
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:38.759
<v Speaker 3>rain which played havoc for particularly the kickers. But sixteen

567
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:42.599
<v Speaker 3>thousand people. It was a great atmosphere, great event. Sixteen minutes.

568
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:45.920
<v Speaker 3>The eighty minutes was was bonkers and really really entertaining,

569
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<v Speaker 3>and yeah it was I thought it was a good day.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a good celebration for thirty years of the sport.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty good round I think in terms of results. As

572
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<v Speaker 3>we mentioned, you know, big upset again Huddersfield.

573
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<v Speaker 1>That be one of the biggest upsets in the thirty years.

574
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:07.519
<v Speaker 2>Probably up there.

575
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Look, I think when one of their four in

576
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:13.359
<v Speaker 3>their four pat London beats in Helen's and I think

577
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:17.039
<v Speaker 3>to lose beats in Helens might have been twenty two

578
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:19.400
<v Speaker 3>or twenty three when you know when they were you know,

579
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:23.039
<v Speaker 3>by far the most dominant team. But yeah, it was

580
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:26.000
<v Speaker 3>a great upset. You know, Cast bouncing back on Friday

581
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:29.039
<v Speaker 3>night at Thursday night sorry whole kr back to their

582
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:34.599
<v Speaker 3>best to lose league old point, you know, league getting

583
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:36.920
<v Speaker 3>back and win. I think that was pretty entertaining. And

584
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:38.839
<v Speaker 3>then holl of Ce, you know, another win. So look,

585
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:41.400
<v Speaker 3>I think it's been a great round of action and

586
00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:44.519
<v Speaker 3>results and yeah, thirty years of Super League, I mean

587
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:47.599
<v Speaker 3>it's been i'd say boom and bust. A bit of

588
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:51.519
<v Speaker 3>a roller coaster, but lots of great moments from you know,

589
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:59.839
<v Speaker 3>Magic Weekend and you know Paris and Barcelona, Las Vegas, Helicopters,

590
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:04.160
<v Speaker 3>Harvestfield Club call, lots of things, isn't it. I mean,

591
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:06.240
<v Speaker 3>you can, as I said, I've I've sort of been

592
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:08.759
<v Speaker 3>more focused on Super League for the last thirteen years,

593
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:12.400
<v Speaker 3>but you could probably fill in the seventeen before that, when.

594
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:15.039
<v Speaker 1>You're definitely go some way to that.

595
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the.

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00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Wakefield club had some big news Roger Toovarta Schek, Yeah,

597
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:24.759
<v Speaker 1>signing them Yeah next year.

598
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:27.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've not watched.

599
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:30.400
<v Speaker 3>Trying to think. I'm not seen much of the Warriors

600
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:33.240
<v Speaker 3>this year, so I don't know exactly how Roger's been playing.

601
00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:39.519
<v Speaker 3>But I'll preface this by saying Roger's been one of

602
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:42.640
<v Speaker 3>my favorite players to watch in his career started like

603
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:45.279
<v Speaker 3>a house on fire at the Roosters, went over to

604
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:47.480
<v Speaker 3>the Warriors, and I think Dalian Player of the Year

605
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:54.720
<v Speaker 3>twenty eighteen and then Golden Boot winner twenty nineteen. Just

606
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:59.079
<v Speaker 3>a sensational player, one of the best, was one of

607
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:01.079
<v Speaker 3>the best players in the world. Went to rugby union.

608
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:04.519
<v Speaker 3>I thought he would kill it in rugby union. I

609
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:05.960
<v Speaker 3>know he played in the center. I think it was

610
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.880
<v Speaker 3>inside center, and I thought probably more of a wingful wap.

611
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:12.159
<v Speaker 3>But I didn't really see him play rugby union. But look,

612
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:14.239
<v Speaker 3>he made a couple of caps in the All Blacks

613
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:17.880
<v Speaker 3>and that's the main three. But look, come back to

614
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<v Speaker 3>the rugby league. It's still a very good player. I

615
00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:23.559
<v Speaker 3>don't know how much is left in the tank. He's

616
00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:27.760
<v Speaker 3>thirty three in June. Yeah, so what he'll be thirty

617
00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:32.599
<v Speaker 3>five by the end of his Wakefield deal. I think

618
00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:34.719
<v Speaker 3>I think he would have got another year at most

619
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<v Speaker 3>of our rold clubs. Whether they would would have given

620
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:40.440
<v Speaker 3>him two years, which is obviously Wakefield have done, I

621
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:45.159
<v Speaker 3>don't know. So look, I think we can judge the signing,

622
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:48.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, once he's playing for Wakefield and how much

623
00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:52.239
<v Speaker 3>we've got left. But look as a name, as a profile,

624
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:54.440
<v Speaker 3>he's a fantastic sign for Wakefield.

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00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:57.239
<v Speaker 2>I think you noticed league like Wakefield.

626
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, apart from maybe Wally Lewis and Ray Price in

627
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<v Speaker 3>the eighties, they're not signed you know, massive names. They

628
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:09.199
<v Speaker 3>plan it's been the best plan the world. It's been

629
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:11.679
<v Speaker 3>Wigan or Leeds or Saint Helen's have done that. So

630
00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:16.519
<v Speaker 3>it's huge. It's a huge signing for Wakefield and you know,

631
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:17.920
<v Speaker 3>kind of put some on the map and they're a

632
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:20.840
<v Speaker 3>club on the app. They've changed a lot last to be.

633
00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:23.920
<v Speaker 1>So, so, as we already mentioned at the top of

634
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:26.519
<v Speaker 1>the show, there's a bit of coaching merry go round

635
00:35:26.599 --> 00:35:30.480
<v Speaker 1>going on or potentially going on, and there's now a

636
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:35.360
<v Speaker 1>there's now a vacancy at Sulford r C. And there's

637
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:37.280
<v Speaker 1>also a vacancy at Manly.

638
00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:39.079
<v Speaker 2>So the.

639
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:45.239
<v Speaker 3>Link there is you're from Sulfur and a self affair

640
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:47.079
<v Speaker 3>and you worked at Mainly, So what are you doing

641
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:47.719
<v Speaker 3>at these clubs?

642
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:54.119
<v Speaker 2>Makee you're poison the the straight bat that.

643
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:57.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've had to let it through to the keeper.

644
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:01.239
<v Speaker 1>Matt Alan will be the Manly coach.

645
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:03.119
<v Speaker 3>So Brad Arthur is not going to get that job

646
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:08.320
<v Speaker 3>in my opinion, because yeah, can I can I just

647
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:11.199
<v Speaker 3>can I just read out? So obviously I was there

648
00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:16.199
<v Speaker 3>headingly yesterday postmatch press conference. Brad Arthur is in there

649
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:20.199
<v Speaker 3>talking about the police when blah blah blah blah. You know,

650
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:23.239
<v Speaker 3>not that many questions, you know, no one else has pasked,

651
00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:25.840
<v Speaker 3>so it's about then, so I jump in on us

652
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:29.960
<v Speaker 3>and look to be honest. Brad Arthur has always I mean,

653
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:31.920
<v Speaker 3>he applied for the Perth job while he was Leeds coach.

654
00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:32.519
<v Speaker 2>He didn't get it.

655
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:34.800
<v Speaker 3>I think he was in the running for the P

656
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:38.679
<v Speaker 3>and G job, and he's always said, you know, he's

657
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:40.519
<v Speaker 3>contract to the end of this year. He's always said

658
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:44.119
<v Speaker 3>he wants to go back to Australia. So he's not

659
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:46.320
<v Speaker 3>only been reporting this trade meder as a care for

660
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:50.840
<v Speaker 3>the manly job. Since Seabold was sacked on Friday. He's

661
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:55.760
<v Speaker 3>also a former mainly assistant coach. Yeah, so it's theoretical

662
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:57.559
<v Speaker 3>that he would be interested in that job.

663
00:36:57.599 --> 00:36:58.159
<v Speaker 2>So I asked him.

664
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:01.519
<v Speaker 3>He interestedly said, uh, there's about a minute response. He said,

665
00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:03.360
<v Speaker 3>I read it out to here. This is the quote

666
00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:05.599
<v Speaker 3>I reckon. I've been pretty honest and fair all the

667
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:07.920
<v Speaker 3>way through. I don't think it's fair in the club.

668
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:10.800
<v Speaker 3>That would be leads if we keep having these conversations,

669
00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:14.360
<v Speaker 3>like I'm committed to the club, what will be will be.

670
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:18.400
<v Speaker 3>I've got until June thirty, June twenty nine. I'll tell

671
00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:20.760
<v Speaker 3>everybody what I'm doing. I'm not trying to drag it out,

672
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:23.719
<v Speaker 3>but it's hard for me being away from Australia. But

673
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:25.679
<v Speaker 3>i feel like I've come here and on everything that

674
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:27.840
<v Speaker 3>I said I was going to do, and I'm trying

675
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:29.519
<v Speaker 3>to make the club a better club, and the players

676
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:32.199
<v Speaker 3>are buying in and what happens back in Australia, I've

677
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:35.000
<v Speaker 3>got no control over. People can say I'm in for

678
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:37.639
<v Speaker 3>doing this or doing that, but I'm committed to this

679
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:39.760
<v Speaker 3>team right now and I've got until June thirty to

680
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:42.199
<v Speaker 3>make a decision about whether I stay or not. I'm

681
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:44.320
<v Speaker 3>not trying to be rude. I'm trying to be appreciative

682
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:46.239
<v Speaker 3>of where I'm at. But I don't think it's fair.

683
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:48.599
<v Speaker 3>I don't need to continue to justify my position for

684
00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:49.039
<v Speaker 3>the club.

685
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what good words. And he's one of

686
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:56.480
<v Speaker 1>those goages that's been really respectful to the club that's

687
00:37:56.519 --> 00:38:00.199
<v Speaker 1>out in those words too. He's definitely going to be

688
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:02.320
<v Speaker 1>a candidate for the Manlely job.

689
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:06.719
<v Speaker 3>However, reading between the lines, he's interested in the mainly job.

690
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:12.480
<v Speaker 1>The problem at Manley John is all the signs are

691
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:14.719
<v Speaker 1>pointing that it's going to be old boy time again.

692
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:17.920
<v Speaker 1>And by old boy, I don't been a coach that

693
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:23.800
<v Speaker 1>worked as an assistant for a year time, and I

694
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:26.400
<v Speaker 1>just think there's so many things pointing at that. Jason

695
00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:28.800
<v Speaker 1>King was also X teammate of Matt Balin, and he's

696
00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:30.800
<v Speaker 1>a big fan of Matt Balin. Apparently on the Channel

697
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:35.880
<v Speaker 1>nine Footy show yesterday that was the name, that was

698
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:38.519
<v Speaker 1>the name, and Jason King was on the panel. So

699
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:40.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the direction they're going to go in.

700
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:44.960
<v Speaker 1>So I am predicting Brad Arthur will end up without

701
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:45.440
<v Speaker 1>that job.

702
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Now.

703
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:50.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if anybody thought the Cowboys would beat Melbourne,

704
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:53.199
<v Speaker 1>but that the Cowboys job is obviously a job that

705
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:56.719
<v Speaker 1>will be hovering around in the background. And the Saint

706
00:38:56.800 --> 00:39:00.119
<v Speaker 1>George I lall wore a job as well because they

707
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:04.280
<v Speaker 1>are rock bottom of the ladder after losing yesterday to

708
00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the Gold Coast Titans in the first Spoon Bowl of

709
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:11.960
<v Speaker 1>the year. Now, why all these coaches are looking at

710
00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:14.199
<v Speaker 1>the n r L when the Salford job is available,

711
00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Mike Mike Grady left the club last week.

712
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:25.199
<v Speaker 1>Somebody who has more lives than any cat I ever

713
00:39:26.360 --> 00:39:31.719
<v Speaker 1>encountered his Nigel would he's back. He's back as chairman

714
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:34.639
<v Speaker 1>of the Rugby Football League and he was voted in.

715
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:37.320
<v Speaker 1>But there was some opposition. John tell us about that.

716
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:41.639
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I saw Nigel yesterday on the way and he

717
00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:46.719
<v Speaker 3>said hello, I said, allow back. Uh No, I don't

718
00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:48.559
<v Speaker 3>think he's the biggest fair of me in my work.

719
00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:52.639
<v Speaker 3>But that's we can talk about that other time. But yeah,

720
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:55.840
<v Speaker 3>it's no surprise that Niger was voted in. I think

721
00:39:56.079 --> 00:39:59.920
<v Speaker 3>was interesting that there was some opposition and if you

722
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:05.440
<v Speaker 3>look at it, essentially four of the twelve eligible club

723
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:08.280
<v Speaker 3>Super League clubs who could vote for him didn't vote

724
00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:10.920
<v Speaker 3>for him. Now Callens and Toulouse don't have a vote

725
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:13.239
<v Speaker 3>because they're French clubs and they're not members of the RFL.

726
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:18.079
<v Speaker 3>But Wigan voted against him, half C voted against him,

727
00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:21.599
<v Speaker 3>York voted against him, and Castleford abstained.

728
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Now you could say the other interesting point is.

729
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:27.880
<v Speaker 3>They're all owned or have new owners, so they're not

730
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:31.239
<v Speaker 3>owners who've been in the game for ten twenty thirty years.

731
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:34.400
<v Speaker 3>So Mike Dancon only took over at Wigan two on

732
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:37.920
<v Speaker 3>a bit years ago, Andrew Thirkle took over OLFC last year,

733
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:44.239
<v Speaker 3>Clint Goodchild it's been at York for three or four years,

734
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:48.199
<v Speaker 3>and Martin Jemsen took over a cast what was it

735
00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:50.719
<v Speaker 3>two years ago, so it's interesting there is a bit

736
00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:54.800
<v Speaker 3>of opposition to him, and then Witness and Newcastle Thunder

737
00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:58.280
<v Speaker 3>also voted against him in the Championship, So yeah, it

738
00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:04.159
<v Speaker 3>is interesting. You can judge social media or online reaction

739
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:08.000
<v Speaker 3>but and it doesn't necessarily mean thank he's a bad

740
00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:11.400
<v Speaker 3>administrator or anything. But the I would say like ninety

741
00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:13.760
<v Speaker 3>nine percent of the reaction to Niger would being voted

742
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:17.519
<v Speaker 3>in by rugularge fans is horrendously negative. Now make of

743
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:21.360
<v Speaker 3>that what you will be, But you could use that

744
00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:25.440
<v Speaker 3>as an indicator when it is so vastly on the one.

745
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:27.679
<v Speaker 2>Side, Why is that the case.

746
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Yair crawl in the field.

747
00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:37.599
<v Speaker 3>Well, look, niger Would's been working in rugby league, running clubs,

748
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:40.280
<v Speaker 3>running the RFL since the mid nineties.

749
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:45.400
<v Speaker 1>We did after the hooter, Caasford getting their win over

750
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:48.159
<v Speaker 1>Bradford on Thursday and what was a very entertaining game.

751
00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:52.159
<v Speaker 1>And then on Friday k I'll scored fifty two against

752
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:56.159
<v Speaker 1>Saint Helen's who only scored ten tries, three from Burgess,

753
00:41:56.960 --> 00:42:02.360
<v Speaker 1>three from Lewis, Litton, Batch and Whitbred. Eight goals from Lewis.

754
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:05.880
<v Speaker 1>St Helen's ten points came from a dagonal try, a

755
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:11.320
<v Speaker 1>right try and a Hastings goal. Nine tries o KR

756
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:13.559
<v Speaker 1>scored and they run riot in the first half. It

757
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:14.920
<v Speaker 1>was thirty nil at halftime.

758
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:17.920
<v Speaker 3>The game was over at half time. I mean this

759
00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:21.440
<v Speaker 3>was whole car back to the best. The Lion speed

760
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:23.920
<v Speaker 3>was really really good. Sot Alan's missing a few bodies,

761
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:26.840
<v Speaker 3>but they were just quite soft. I think the Delayey

762
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:31.039
<v Speaker 3>knocked the ball on from the kickoff or sorry whoever

763
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:32.480
<v Speaker 3>caught the ball from the golf past him and he

764
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:36.360
<v Speaker 3>knocked it on and it didn't get any better since then.

765
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:40.280
<v Speaker 3>So it was interesting obviously that Willie Peters news. It

766
00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:42.199
<v Speaker 3>was only confirmed by a club on Sunday morning, but

767
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:46.199
<v Speaker 3>everyone knew Thursday that he was going, and you wonder

768
00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:49.199
<v Speaker 3>sort of what reaction, but it might galvanize ol care

769
00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:50.880
<v Speaker 3>is that that we want to send Willie out with

770
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:55.679
<v Speaker 3>another trophy or two trophies. But yeah, it was It

771
00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:58.480
<v Speaker 3>was a morning. It was an absolute annihilation and that

772
00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:02.239
<v Speaker 3>was the whole hour of where twenty five. So Saint

773
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:05.480
<v Speaker 3>Helen's yeah, a fair wake up call. They were well

774
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:06.320
<v Speaker 3>well off the place.

775
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:09.079
<v Speaker 1>Not for the first time on this podcast, on my

776
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>YouTube or whatever, I am going to mention poor Rowley.

777
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:19.039
<v Speaker 1>Poor Rowley's teams and defense, particularly edge defense this week.

778
00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:26.559
<v Speaker 1>They just look so confused. AnyWho. York fourteen Wakefield twenty six.

779
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:30.880
<v Speaker 1>York scored tries through Wood, Jones, Bishop and Williams, and

780
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Williams kicked a goal. Wakefield twenty six came from hamling

781
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:38.639
<v Speaker 1>U La perhaps scored to Johnston scored two and goals

782
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:41.679
<v Speaker 1>were two from Jowett and one from Simfield. That's the

783
00:43:41.800 --> 00:43:44.719
<v Speaker 1>third win on the bounce for Wakefield and they've clawed

784
00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:47.239
<v Speaker 1>the way back up to fourth. A few weeks ago

785
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:49.599
<v Speaker 1>we were a little bit worried about them, but we

786
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:52.480
<v Speaker 1>always felt that they had plenty of the tank and

787
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:54.599
<v Speaker 1>they were going to get better. So that's that stood

788
00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:57.440
<v Speaker 1>up to scrutiny there. What was that game?

789
00:43:57.559 --> 00:44:00.639
<v Speaker 3>Like John Well, I was watching how Okay our game,

790
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:04.679
<v Speaker 3>so I've only seen the highlights. This is the joy

791
00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:06.360
<v Speaker 3>when the games are all at the same time. But

792
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:09.320
<v Speaker 3>from what the highlights I've seen and what I've read

793
00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:13.440
<v Speaker 3>about a game, you know, I think Wakefield started strong,

794
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:17.639
<v Speaker 3>York came back into it, and then Wakefield sort of

795
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:18.079
<v Speaker 3>moved ahead.

796
00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:19.960
<v Speaker 2>But it was a close game. A lot of injuries

797
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:20.559
<v Speaker 2>for York book.

798
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:23.800
<v Speaker 3>I think they didn't have well two of their half

799
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:25.760
<v Speaker 3>backs were out, so Paul McShane had to play in

800
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:28.000
<v Speaker 3>the halves the hookups, which is never a good thing.

801
00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:31.840
<v Speaker 3>And I think RI York's death depth is really being

802
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:34.000
<v Speaker 3>tested now. Add a few more injuries from that game,

803
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:37.760
<v Speaker 3>Sam would matter half of their fullback who's been brilliant

804
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:40.719
<v Speaker 3>for them. So I think everyone was saying after what

805
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:43.599
<v Speaker 3>round two, rounds three or round one, Round two, rounds three.

806
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:45.840
<v Speaker 3>Are these new promoted teams are doing great? You know,

807
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:48.840
<v Speaker 3>it's been a success. We will judge it actually the

808
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:51.360
<v Speaker 3>end of the season. And I think now is that

809
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:55.760
<v Speaker 3>the third game York have lost in a row, or

810
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:58.840
<v Speaker 3>at least at least two. And I think, you know,

811
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:01.519
<v Speaker 3>they've not gone a lot of depth because they do

812
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:03.519
<v Speaker 3>not spend a lot of money of the cap, because

813
00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:06.000
<v Speaker 3>they don't have the money. And I think they're really

814
00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:08.480
<v Speaker 3>going to I think they've overachieved because Mark Applegarth is

815
00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:10.599
<v Speaker 3>a great coach and the players have been playing above themselves.

816
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:13.199
<v Speaker 3>But I think they're going to struggle to lose another

817
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.280
<v Speaker 3>loss for them and Bradford and lost for them, and

818
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:19.280
<v Speaker 3>Bradford were very poor on Thursday night, So yeah, I

819
00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:24.280
<v Speaker 3>think New York keep fighting. But then they got Huddersfield

820
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:28.480
<v Speaker 3>this weekend and if those players are out for extended

821
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:30.880
<v Speaker 3>period of time and they're missing the half backs and

822
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:34.639
<v Speaker 3>their spine and the fullback putting your money on how

823
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:35.599
<v Speaker 3>to spiel At the moment.

824
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Lee ended a four match losing streak, although they did

825
00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:41.920
<v Speaker 1>give up a twenty mierl lead and they were taken

826
00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:45.039
<v Speaker 1>into Golden Point, but they beat to lose one of

827
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:50.840
<v Speaker 1>those promoted sides in Golden Point. Did you see this game, John,

828
00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I watched. I watched the highlights. Are up twenty nil Lee.

829
00:45:57.559 --> 00:45:59.960
<v Speaker 3>In the first I think thirty odd Lock and Lander

830
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:01.920
<v Speaker 3>really pulling the strings and they were looking really good

831
00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:05.360
<v Speaker 3>and then to lose come back into it actual bought

832
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:09.960
<v Speaker 3>quite influential a dumb sing bin from from Lee as well,

833
00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:14.039
<v Speaker 3>and yeah, went down to the Golden Point to Louise

834
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:17.119
<v Speaker 3>will probably be kicking themselves that they didn't get the

835
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:20.159
<v Speaker 3>win here even though they were, you know, twenty all behind,

836
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:22.519
<v Speaker 3>and you would think, you know, Lee get that score up.

837
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:24.920
<v Speaker 3>You've just got to close the game out, don't you.

838
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:32.960
<v Speaker 3>But Gareth ob the legend of Salford and other clubs.

839
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:33.480
<v Speaker 2>He loves.

840
00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:36.840
<v Speaker 3>He loves a drop goal winner, doesn't he. Right, that's

841
00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:41.719
<v Speaker 3>right Salford that time he's one. I think he did

842
00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:43.360
<v Speaker 3>it the casts as well. He's won quite a few

843
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:47.400
<v Speaker 3>games in Golden Point. But I was watching it. They

844
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:50.440
<v Speaker 3>just they went for it early in the set and

845
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:53.079
<v Speaker 3>there was like no pressure kick pressure like to Louse

846
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:56.559
<v Speaker 3>did not see it coming. Yeah, so that I mean

847
00:46:56.679 --> 00:46:58.519
<v Speaker 3>he may have still kicked it even we kick prushure.

848
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:02.599
<v Speaker 3>But look, that's great win for Lee that they've lost

849
00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:05.000
<v Speaker 3>a few and they've had a lot of injuries, but

850
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.199
<v Speaker 3>to loose, yeah, I think it's just going to get

851
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:10.400
<v Speaker 3>tougher and tougher for them. Still on two wins, two

852
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:15.559
<v Speaker 3>wins Olympic ye try two out of six, it's two.

853
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Out of six and I think is it next weekend?

854
00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:20.599
<v Speaker 3>I think they've got catalans in the French Derby, so

855
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:24.079
<v Speaker 3>that'll be there'll be tears, there'll be emotions that the

856
00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:25.519
<v Speaker 3>far in French, they'll be pumped.

857
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:29.760
<v Speaker 1>The tries for Lee were Charley with a double senior

858
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:33.599
<v Speaker 1>and Horned Cook kicked two goals from the kicking Tea

859
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and O'Brien, like you said, got the field goal drop

860
00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:40.199
<v Speaker 1>goal to lose. Their twenty came from Tropis Laguerre scored

861
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:47.000
<v Speaker 1>two tries and Shoreroops kicked four goals. Wigan sixteen with

862
00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:50.840
<v Speaker 1>tries from Ecasley, farrym and Farrell and two goals from

863
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Smith lost to Huddersfield thirty four tries from Gaguy, Zennon, Evels, Douglas,

864
00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:00.559
<v Speaker 1>Wrench and Clune and five goals from Zennon. What does

865
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:03.679
<v Speaker 1>field squad fake six tries and they've only managed day

866
00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:04.920
<v Speaker 1>in their previous five.

867
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:06.639
<v Speaker 2>What happened.

868
00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:10.440
<v Speaker 3>Look, we've already talked a little bit of this game,

869
00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:13.360
<v Speaker 3>but that's what happens when you have your first show spine.

870
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I think Nile Levels was was great.

871
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:18.440
<v Speaker 3>Uh, you know, set up a try, a lovely trailer

872
00:48:18.599 --> 00:48:22.880
<v Speaker 3>on scored a try, Adam Klune halfback directings, exactly who

873
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:27.400
<v Speaker 3>you want, Zach Wolford, hooker, big impact, the thing that

874
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:29.119
<v Speaker 3>I really like, and you know, quite a wrench on

875
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:32.000
<v Speaker 3>Devoot was very good and Douglas the winger from Saint

876
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:36.400
<v Speaker 3>Alan's alone was it was outstanding. But the the try

877
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:38.000
<v Speaker 3>set up but I'm not sure if you've seen it leave,

878
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:42.079
<v Speaker 3>but Tom Burgess cut it past to the winger. I mean,

879
00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:44.400
<v Speaker 3>how often in Tom Burgess's career, and he's had a

880
00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:47.880
<v Speaker 3>great career you see a prop forward he's like one

881
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:50.119
<v Speaker 3>hundred and twenty cages, he throw a cutout.

882
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:52.239
<v Speaker 2>To score.

883
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:55.159
<v Speaker 3>So they've been unleashed. They've been unleashed, I have been

884
00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:58.199
<v Speaker 3>Look look all the bad press, all the criticism, they

885
00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:05.199
<v Speaker 3>are unleashed. They are off the leash. Yeah, so well

886
00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:08.119
<v Speaker 3>done to Hardersfield. It must deserve to win.

887
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:11.639
<v Speaker 1>Now, talking of unleashed, it's funny what you said about

888
00:49:11.639 --> 00:49:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Steve McNamara and WHI left C earlier and potential words

889
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:19.079
<v Speaker 1>around John cart right, because they yeah, they seem to.

890
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:21.280
<v Speaker 1>They seem to have turned a bit of a corner.

891
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Haull f C twenty four with tries from Roman Or

892
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Martin moy and his own goals were from harda crew

893
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:32.840
<v Speaker 1>scored four over the Catalans, twenty tries from Mark Dorella

894
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:36.719
<v Speaker 1>tor Or two Stains scored one and sect and kicked

895
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:39.000
<v Speaker 1>two goals. That's back to back wins for whole le

896
00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:39.639
<v Speaker 1>f C, isn't it.

897
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:41.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

898
00:49:41.559 --> 00:49:44.519
<v Speaker 2>Off the back of that that great win over Leeds.

899
00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:47.800
<v Speaker 3>Look, I was I was at heading Leaders game was

900
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:50.920
<v Speaker 3>just before the Leeds game, and I was mingling with

901
00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:55.559
<v Speaker 3>the likes of Gary Schofield and Francis Cummings and Phil

902
00:49:55.639 --> 00:49:59.320
<v Speaker 3>Kaplan distainable Phil Kaplan. So I didn't say this game,

903
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:03.239
<v Speaker 3>but cat Leans just for me, the the ultimate caplan.

904
00:50:03.360 --> 00:50:09.719
<v Speaker 3>Then it's doable, the cromulent film caplan. They are a

905
00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:13.519
<v Speaker 3>yo yo team Catalans, aren't they like? It's kind of

906
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:17.760
<v Speaker 3>the Catalans of years ago before matt Namara. They correctly

907
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:20.280
<v Speaker 3>brought it one week and dog dog shit the.

908
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Next lads put on the record of how English your

909
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:26.920
<v Speaker 1>accent sounds at times now, particularly when you say Catalans,

910
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:29.559
<v Speaker 1>because you say Catalans like a bank.

911
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:32.960
<v Speaker 2>That's that's an insult. I won't take that.

912
00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:36.039
<v Speaker 3>But look, they were brilliant against whole k R. And

913
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:39.599
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how they went yesterday apart from I

914
00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:42.519
<v Speaker 3>don't know how they performed, but yeah, obviously I think

915
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:44.960
<v Speaker 3>good on them a couple of Wednesday. But yeah, the

916
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:48.880
<v Speaker 3>look there is talk about John Cartwright's future behind the scenes.

917
00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:54.400
<v Speaker 3>I spoke to a few people yesterday who heard similar things. Yeah,

918
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:57.360
<v Speaker 3>we wanted but look, they can't really move him on

919
00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:00.800
<v Speaker 3>if he keeps winning. Can I know John cart Right?

920
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:04.559
<v Speaker 3>You know two wins. Yeah, they just need to keep

921
00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:07.920
<v Speaker 3>performing and they'll get some more players back off to

922
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:11.639
<v Speaker 3>the treatment table and they could keep motoring.

923
00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Up the table.

924
00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Heading Lee it was microsivol twelve, everyone else in the

925
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Leeds Jersey eight six fourteen to come up with a

926
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:26.360
<v Speaker 1>total of twenty six and Warrington twenty two with tries

927
00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:31.880
<v Speaker 1>from Josh Soules, Smith with two and King Golds were

928
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:37.119
<v Speaker 1>three from Irwin. That sounded like a belting game.

929
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:40.599
<v Speaker 3>It was, yeah, like as I said, the conditions were

930
00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:44.239
<v Speaker 3>horrible and the first twenty minutes weren't great, and then

931
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:47.920
<v Speaker 3>it sort of come alive. It was really entertaining. The

932
00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:51.679
<v Speaker 3>lead was changing, it was tense, it was a bit

933
00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:54.960
<v Speaker 3>of you know, some dubious pause. It was controversial moments

934
00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:57.920
<v Speaker 3>at different times of the game. But some great skool

935
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:01.599
<v Speaker 3>Civo just seems to be getting, you know, at least

936
00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:03.400
<v Speaker 3>early on. Warrington got a group to him in the

937
00:52:03.440 --> 00:52:05.400
<v Speaker 3>second half and really put some pressure on him and

938
00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:08.000
<v Speaker 3>some bodies in front of him. But first half he

939
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:11.280
<v Speaker 3>was just getting the ball in space. It's just strolling over,

940
00:52:11.400 --> 00:52:14.199
<v Speaker 3>I mean, which he's done for a long time. But

941
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:17.280
<v Speaker 3>Warrington will be I think a little bit frustrated. I

942
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:20.480
<v Speaker 3>go because I started really well. Josh Lewis for me.

943
00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:22.559
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you're picking in England team for the

944
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:25.079
<v Speaker 3>World Cup, you've got Josh Lewis in your squad. So

945
00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:29.440
<v Speaker 3>she's playing fullback with Taylor Ray out, but he can

946
00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:32.280
<v Speaker 3>play wing, he can play center. Just a really really

947
00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:38.079
<v Speaker 3>good young player, great ball runner, strong, tough, good defender.

948
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:41.199
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, brilliant game.

949
00:52:41.960 --> 00:52:43.800
<v Speaker 3>Leeds came back into it, and then you know, once

950
00:52:43.880 --> 00:52:48.800
<v Speaker 3>Connor and Miller started to find space, grabbing across the

951
00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:51.639
<v Speaker 3>field and just opening and warranted up, particularly on their

952
00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:54.679
<v Speaker 3>their right edge, Warrington's right edge, and then you and

953
00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:59.360
<v Speaker 3>Owen we've talked about him. I think before Lee and

954
00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:02.679
<v Speaker 3>Johns thinks he's one of the best young halfbacks he's

955
00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:04.960
<v Speaker 3>seen for a long time. And you know, I'm sure

956
00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:07.559
<v Speaker 3>he's got a massive grip. It was a tough Afternoonew

957
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:10.360
<v Speaker 3>like Colum Watkins got in his face that really closed

958
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:13.800
<v Speaker 3>him down. He made a few errors, but if you are,

959
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:17.519
<v Speaker 3>if you're warranting, you know, look their first loss of

960
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:21.639
<v Speaker 3>the season. There were no by no means embarrassed. You know,

961
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:24.360
<v Speaker 3>I could have won the game. So I think if

962
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:29.119
<v Speaker 3>you're warranting, you're not too disappointed, you know. And Leeds

963
00:53:29.159 --> 00:53:32.239
<v Speaker 3>really needed that. We two losses in a row after

964
00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:34.360
<v Speaker 3>the Cup going at the Cup and then thatdded buy

965
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:38.800
<v Speaker 3>holl of Sea. So yeah, big win for Leeds. But yeah,

966
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:41.119
<v Speaker 3>just a great, great afternoon. As I said, it kind

967
00:53:41.119 --> 00:53:44.159
<v Speaker 3>of capped off the dirtieth celebrations very well.

968
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:47.559
<v Speaker 1>I need your predictions, John, because we need to start

969
00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:50.519
<v Speaker 1>predicting games now because of what happened with Huddersfield and

970
00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Wigan just right in the mall. So Friday, Good Friday,

971
00:53:56.079 --> 00:53:58.840
<v Speaker 1>and we'll be reviewing all leason after the hooter, after

972
00:53:59.039 --> 00:54:01.519
<v Speaker 1>the final hooter. Maybe we should call it after the hooters.

973
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:06.039
<v Speaker 1>This week Whole KR and Hull f C Open proceedings

974
00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:07.599
<v Speaker 1>at lunchtime. Who do you winner there?

975
00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:12.639
<v Speaker 3>I think, considering the record they've had over them in

976
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:17.280
<v Speaker 3>recent Derby's and probably in terms of fit bodies, definitely

977
00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:20.760
<v Speaker 3>Whole KR. I think, yeah, they get back to their best.

978
00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:25.519
<v Speaker 1>Saint Helens versus Wigan at three o'clock, yeah, I think

979
00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:26.400
<v Speaker 1>it's the tough one.

980
00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:28.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure.

981
00:54:29.679 --> 00:54:32.440
<v Speaker 3>With Wigan if there's any injuries from their game, but

982
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:35.440
<v Speaker 3>I think I think we're getting a close one. Both

983
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:38.760
<v Speaker 3>teams coming off a loss and Helens are missing. They've

984
00:54:38.760 --> 00:54:40.719
<v Speaker 3>still got a very very good squad, but you take

985
00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:43.519
<v Speaker 3>you know, Wellsby and Lee's and some of those players out,

986
00:54:43.599 --> 00:54:46.039
<v Speaker 3>it's it's going to be hard and I think we're

987
00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:48.320
<v Speaker 3>going to be really really fight up.

988
00:54:48.360 --> 00:54:49.199
<v Speaker 2>So I think I think we're going.

989
00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Bradford host Leeds at eight o'clock.

990
00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:56.159
<v Speaker 2>Again, it's a.

991
00:54:56.199 --> 00:54:59.079
<v Speaker 3>Difficult one because they're all over motion and yeah, really

992
00:54:59.079 --> 00:54:59.760
<v Speaker 3>big grab.

993
00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:04.159
<v Speaker 2>But I think maybe just leads sort of favorites.

994
00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:11.280
<v Speaker 1>On Saturday, the resurgent, unleashed Huddersfield Giants play at three

995
00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:12.920
<v Speaker 1>o'clock against York Knights.

996
00:55:14.519 --> 00:55:18.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, be hazards to think. You know, the York have

997
00:55:18.920 --> 00:55:22.559
<v Speaker 3>kept surprising me already this season. But with those injuries,

998
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:26.960
<v Speaker 3>that picked up and had a Field Boyd with some

999
00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:29.199
<v Speaker 3>fit bodies back and a big win over Wig and

1000
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:31.000
<v Speaker 3>I think I think maybe had a s field.

1001
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Warrington played Lee at exactly the same time.

1002
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:40.039
<v Speaker 3>Again, yeah, they coming off a good win, Warrington off

1003
00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:43.519
<v Speaker 3>a loss. But I think I think Warrington, you know,

1004
00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:45.079
<v Speaker 3>I think wardon All.

1005
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Had too much for him.

1006
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Ludarby frontie between Catalan and to loose at nine at

1007
00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:53.239
<v Speaker 1>seven o'clock UK time.

1008
00:55:55.559 --> 00:55:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Another one where you're kind of flipping a coiner bit.

1009
00:55:57.519 --> 00:55:58.679
<v Speaker 2>I think Catlin's at home.

1010
00:56:01.880 --> 00:56:04.320
<v Speaker 3>You know, they've had a better recent record than to lose,

1011
00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:07.280
<v Speaker 3>and I think maybe to lose it's just like death

1012
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:12.239
<v Speaker 3>Flies might be struggling a bit so. But again I

1013
00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:14.119
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be surprised to see to Lucier in the one.

1014
00:56:14.159 --> 00:56:15.719
<v Speaker 3>But I think I think maybe the Dragons.

1015
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, depending on how many French players are playing,

1016
00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:22.119
<v Speaker 1>then obviously their local issues will come to the foe

1017
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:25.880
<v Speaker 1>as well. There there wherever they've grown up and who

1018
00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:28.039
<v Speaker 1>they hate and who they don't hate and whatnot that

1019
00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:31.199
<v Speaker 1>will come into come into the performance as well. And

1020
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:35.559
<v Speaker 1>then on Sunday Castle for Tigers host Wakefield.

1021
00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:39.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is this is an interesting one because as

1022
00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:41.800
<v Speaker 3>you said, as we just said, wakefielder build them a

1023
00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:44.880
<v Speaker 3>bit of momentum now a couple of wins. Obviously, the

1024
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:47.440
<v Speaker 3>RTS news everything you know, been looking good for Waight

1025
00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:50.960
<v Speaker 3>for the moment, but Cast coming off that match needed

1026
00:56:51.639 --> 00:56:56.519
<v Speaker 3>pressure relieving win over Bradford at home. Still like, yeah,

1027
00:56:56.519 --> 00:57:02.000
<v Speaker 3>I think I think the bookies still have wake for Wakefield. Yeah,

1028
00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:05.000
<v Speaker 3>I think they've probably been on paper they've got the

1029
00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:09.400
<v Speaker 3>better squad, But yeah, I think there are better times

1030
00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:10.679
<v Speaker 3>ahead for Casts in the long term.

1031
00:57:11.039 --> 00:57:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, I certainly hope that.

1032
00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I think we've sort of covered the NRL with the

1033
00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:17.639
<v Speaker 1>coaches and whatnot. Penrith are still better than everyone else

1034
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:22.000
<v Speaker 1>at the moment. Questions came in Saint Philip Boyd the

1035
00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:26.079
<v Speaker 1>second said, why don't players fail hi ads in training?

1036
00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:29.679
<v Speaker 1>Obviously match day is more intense. However, how can players

1037
00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:32.280
<v Speaker 1>only be tested during eighty minutes per week if the

1038
00:57:32.440 --> 00:57:35.599
<v Speaker 1>RFL a claiming player welfare that was a question from

1039
00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Saint Philip's X account.

1040
00:57:39.639 --> 00:57:41.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Look, it's a really good question.

1041
00:57:41.239 --> 00:57:44.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't I mean, there's not I don't think doctor's

1042
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:49.239
<v Speaker 3>viewing training in my in my knowledge, I don't think

1043
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<v Speaker 3>know where in cashion math guards that activate when you know, Yeah,

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00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:55.480
<v Speaker 3>I think this is a really big issue.

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00:57:55.559 --> 00:57:57.800
<v Speaker 1>I think I'll come down to resources, won't it the

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00:57:58.079 --> 00:58:00.000
<v Speaker 1>ability to pay medical staff?

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00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:02.599
<v Speaker 3>I think, yeah, I think more recently, I think that's

1048
00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:06.039
<v Speaker 3>one of the big worries that you know, some clubs,

1049
00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:08.719
<v Speaker 3>I think I think the Roosters in Melbourne definitely do that.

1050
00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:11.920
<v Speaker 3>They train, you know, one and a half times game speed,

1051
00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:16.760
<v Speaker 3>don't they. So they're training their contact sessions are so brutal,

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00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:19.920
<v Speaker 3>and I think that's one thing long term that we

1053
00:58:20.039 --> 00:58:22.280
<v Speaker 3>need to try and get out of, is trying to

1054
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:23.880
<v Speaker 3>lessen that load in training.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think that's a big problem.

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00:58:25.760 --> 00:58:29.159
<v Speaker 3>I think the modern world people are a bit more

1057
00:58:29.480 --> 00:58:31.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, they know about concussion and they're a bit

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00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:36.320
<v Speaker 3>more wary of that and in science. But look at

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00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:38.599
<v Speaker 3>what happened with Tonga Lee. You know, that was a

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00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:41.920
<v Speaker 3>big part of my French But stuff up, wasn't it

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00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:42.920
<v Speaker 3>with Katowa?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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00:58:44.400 --> 00:58:46.280
<v Speaker 1>So I didn't know, I didn't know stuff that was French.

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00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:48.599
<v Speaker 2>I was going to use the F word, but then

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00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:50.760
<v Speaker 2>we get back from YouTube, don't we. So I won't

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<v Speaker 2>do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know that he may never play again, and

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00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:56.519
<v Speaker 1>you know he could have had some news today as well.

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00:58:56.559 --> 00:58:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Kamakamika has had a stroke.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that. Wow, that's that's terrible.

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00:59:03.719 --> 00:59:05.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's been in hospital and apparently he's complaining,

1072
00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:07.519
<v Speaker 1>you're going to miss the game at the weekend, so

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<v Speaker 1>he's you know, it's not you know, he's not really

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00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:14.960
<v Speaker 1>out of it or anything like that, but still not good.

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<v Speaker 1>Simon Paul, Simon Paul, who contributes to us a lot

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00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:23.679
<v Speaker 1>on x Ank Simon and our NRL. Taking our top

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00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:26.119
<v Speaker 1>talent is one of the most destructive things in our

1078
00:59:26.239 --> 00:59:29.840
<v Speaker 1>game at the moment. We need superstars like Dom Young

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<v Speaker 1>to be lighting up the pictures here. What and will

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00:59:33.159 --> 00:59:35.440
<v Speaker 1>anything be done on a n r L will only

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00:59:35.519 --> 00:59:38.920
<v Speaker 1>do what's best for the NRL. A sheep in wolf's clothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean we talked about this week with you

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00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:47.400
<v Speaker 3>Leedskin using the salary cap, didn't we. You know, there's

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00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:50.079
<v Speaker 3>the clubs that want to increase the salary cap there's

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00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:51.159
<v Speaker 3>a lot of clubs are against that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think while the.

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00:59:53.559 --> 00:59:57.199
<v Speaker 3>NRL salary cap is three times the size, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>not just the salary cap, as you know, Lee, it's

1089
00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:02.800
<v Speaker 3>the profile, it's everything around it. It's the bigger crowds,

1090
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:09.079
<v Speaker 3>it's the bigger media coverage and also the lifestyle, the sun.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a pretty attractive proposition. So I can't see that

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<v Speaker 3>changing anyhow time soon. I think I think the super

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01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:19.519
<v Speaker 3>League alecraft could be amended in that clubs are rewarded

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01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:22.840
<v Speaker 3>for producing their own talent, you know, and that's a

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01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:26.559
<v Speaker 3>really good way of retaining them there as the three

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01:00:26.639 --> 01:00:28.840
<v Speaker 3>market thing. But we've got to we're going to get

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01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:31.639
<v Speaker 3>more money into the game, into the sport, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Means a better TV.

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<v Speaker 1>And going going against Simon's question, it's not the NRL's fault,

1100
01:00:38.239 --> 01:00:41.360
<v Speaker 1>it's a better competition super league in terms of standard.

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01:00:43.239 --> 01:00:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Its super League's fault. It's not the same standard as

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01:00:45.719 --> 01:00:46.239
<v Speaker 1>the NRL.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean you could say in the in the

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01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:53.320
<v Speaker 3>nineties or at least in the early two thousands, like

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01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:55.519
<v Speaker 3>the flow was argaber on the other way when you

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01:00:55.599 --> 01:00:59.639
<v Speaker 3>had you know some or you know, the eighties, and

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01:00:59.800 --> 01:01:01.519
<v Speaker 3>it was different in the eighties because it was a

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01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:04.199
<v Speaker 3>winner season whatever, but you had you know, Stirlow and

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01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:05.119
<v Speaker 3>Brett Kenny, and.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a lot in the early days of Super

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01:01:09.599 --> 01:01:12.480
<v Speaker 1>League there was a lot more signings like Roger toovars Check,

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01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:15.360
<v Speaker 1>except they've probably come up a little bit earlier in

1113
01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:17.280
<v Speaker 1>the career, but it was still there was still there

1114
01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:21.159
<v Speaker 1>was still a geriatric ward for the NRL. And so

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01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:24.000
<v Speaker 1>for example, when I was at Wigan, when Matthew Johns

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01:01:24.119 --> 01:01:26.519
<v Speaker 1>wasn't wanted by Newcastle, he ended up coming to Wigan,

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01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Steve Rnoff saying with Brisbane et cetera, so many players. Now,

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01:01:31.400 --> 01:01:33.360
<v Speaker 1>what was different then is that the pound was a

1119
01:01:33.400 --> 01:01:36.880
<v Speaker 1>lot stronger, yes, and the games that the game had

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01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:41.079
<v Speaker 1>comparatively more TV money, so therefore clubs had a bit

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01:01:41.119 --> 01:01:43.159
<v Speaker 1>more money money tall.

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01:01:43.320 --> 01:01:46.760
<v Speaker 3>It's just it's pure economics. And all these other factors

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01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:52.679
<v Speaker 3>about expansion and administration, marketing, they all they're they're all

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01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:54.280
<v Speaker 3>factors that being set together.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've got to kind of fix the whole power.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, you know, if you're if you're a young

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01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:04.840
<v Speaker 3>English kid and you grew up seeing what Sam Burgess

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01:02:04.920 --> 01:02:08.840
<v Speaker 3>did or James Graham did you know, and if you're

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01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:12.119
<v Speaker 3>older Agrian Morley, you know what Dom Young is doing now,

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01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:14.599
<v Speaker 3>you know, Dom You people forget Dom youngs a wait

1131
01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:17.599
<v Speaker 3>kid for Wakefield Uddersfield Junior. You couldn't get a game

1132
01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:21.360
<v Speaker 3>for Hardesfield. They didn't play him, you know so and

1133
01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:24.400
<v Speaker 3>maybe maybe you know, maybe you know he's a raw athlete,

1134
01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:28.719
<v Speaker 3>et cetera. But you know you've also you've also got

1135
01:02:28.760 --> 01:02:30.320
<v Speaker 3>to identify your best kids and you've got to give

1136
01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:31.119
<v Speaker 3>him opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you full credit Dom Young.

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<v Speaker 3>You went the Newcastle I'm sure he would have been

1139
01:02:36.719 --> 01:02:38.119
<v Speaker 3>paid a pittance when he went over there.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's worked hard and become you know, a top

1141
01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:44.159
<v Speaker 1>winner in the NRL. So yeah, good And the other

1142
01:02:44.239 --> 01:02:47.400
<v Speaker 1>thing for all for all he's worried about this talent drain.

1143
01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:50.360
<v Speaker 1>The more English players we have playing in the NRL,

1144
01:02:50.400 --> 01:02:52.719
<v Speaker 1>we're going to have no fear eventually when it comes

1145
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:54.000
<v Speaker 1>to playing Australia.

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01:02:56.880 --> 01:02:59.920
<v Speaker 2>One that that is a positive.

1147
01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:02.480
<v Speaker 1>And I'll learned so much more about the game because

1148
01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:08.719
<v Speaker 1>things happen quicker, there's more scrutiny. Etcter hoy on X said,

1149
01:03:08.840 --> 01:03:13.000
<v Speaker 1>gamesmanship and diving more prevalent nowadays. Question Mark to lose

1150
01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:15.719
<v Speaker 1>the leaders in the late hit penalty count. If I

1151
01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:18.079
<v Speaker 1>can answer the first part of that question, you maybe

1152
01:03:18.239 --> 01:03:21.239
<v Speaker 1>can answer the second or joining on the first part

1153
01:03:21.280 --> 01:03:26.440
<v Speaker 1>as well. Gamesmanship and diving absolutely more more prevalent nowadays.

1154
01:03:26.519 --> 01:03:30.480
<v Speaker 1>It's one thing I noticed in the World Club Challenge, John,

1155
01:03:30.599 --> 01:03:33.239
<v Speaker 1>was how often the Brin Broncos players were trying to

1156
01:03:33.320 --> 01:03:35.800
<v Speaker 1>get things out of the referee that would work in

1157
01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:40.079
<v Speaker 1>the NRL but didn't work in Super League. Clearly, I

1158
01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:42.400
<v Speaker 1>think again because of what we've just been talking about,

1159
01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:46.559
<v Speaker 1>eventually Super League copies the NRL, and it's creeping in.

1160
01:03:46.760 --> 01:03:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean some of the some of the diving some

1161
01:03:49.639 --> 01:03:52.719
<v Speaker 1>players do. Now when a defender brushes past, there are

1162
01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:57.639
<v Speaker 1>the bushes, you know, a little glance of the jumper

1163
01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:02.400
<v Speaker 1>and the diving around that lake. So I don't know

1164
01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:06.440
<v Speaker 1>what to lose hit late late hit penalty count means, though,

1165
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:06.639
<v Speaker 1>do you.

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01:04:07.639 --> 01:04:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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01:04:07.960 --> 01:04:11.039
<v Speaker 3>I mean I'm not I've not seen every minute of

1168
01:04:11.119 --> 01:04:13.840
<v Speaker 3>every to lose game to think that every time past

1169
01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:15.840
<v Speaker 3>has been hitting it hitting players off the ball the time,

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01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:18.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, I'm not sure about that one.

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01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:21.760
<v Speaker 1>So building up to next week, we may record on

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01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Easter Monday, we may record Tuesday, because obviously it's a

1173
01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:29.159
<v Speaker 1>public holiday. John John's got family, I've got commitments, and

1174
01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:33.039
<v Speaker 1>and you know, if we get pulled away in life

1175
01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and we might even dare we say, we might even

1176
01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:36.880
<v Speaker 1>have a little bit of time off. We'll see John.

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01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:40.159
<v Speaker 1>On that note, I may not do an analysis video

1178
01:04:40.280 --> 01:04:41.800
<v Speaker 1>this week. I might do one in the middle of

1179
01:04:41.880 --> 01:04:44.119
<v Speaker 1>the two weeks. Who should I look at?

1180
01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:44.440
<v Speaker 2>John?

1181
01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I listened to your last time and did Warrington?

1182
01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Should you look at?

1183
01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm interested in looking at the Saint Helen's defense against Okay,

1184
01:04:53.760 --> 01:04:54.159
<v Speaker 1>are you know?

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01:04:55.599 --> 01:04:59.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I think Look, I think that's a really interesting one. Yeah.

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01:04:59.840 --> 01:05:03.039
<v Speaker 3>I like that They've had a lot of change moving

1187
01:05:03.079 --> 01:05:07.000
<v Speaker 3>around the spine, a lot of injuries, so there's a

1188
01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:10.599
<v Speaker 3>lot of fluctuating and I think they're warrant Concerned for

1189
01:05:10.719 --> 01:05:14.480
<v Speaker 3>me was how much their pack got absolutely battered on

1190
01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:18.360
<v Speaker 3>on Friday night, So dal would really need to improve

1191
01:05:18.480 --> 01:05:21.639
<v Speaker 3>that area if they're going to beat Wiggan on Friday.

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01:05:22.599 --> 01:05:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with me rugbyley coach dot comvera say

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01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:27.599
<v Speaker 1>you at Rugby League coach on Socials and Rugby League

1194
01:05:27.639 --> 01:05:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Coach dot comver Say you John.

1195
01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:36.280
<v Speaker 3>Facebook at John David's Journalist, on x at Johnny D. Davidson,

1196
01:05:37.079 --> 01:05:40.519
<v Speaker 3>and on Patreon at Rugby league hub dot com or reads.

1197
01:05:41.440 --> 01:05:45.880
<v Speaker 1>We'll see you after the Hooters on Friday, and we'll

1198
01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:50.199
<v Speaker 1>see you either Monday or Tuesday next week. Take care,

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01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:53.920
<v Speaker 1>John for those listening, Johnny shaking his head right.

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01:05:53.880 --> 01:05:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Now so loves the sexual inuin there.

1201
01:05:57.280 --> 01:06:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Hey, who said anything about sexual But you're the ones

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01:06:00.760 --> 01:06:01.440
<v Speaker 1>with the issues.
