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Speaker 1: Hi, This is Bobby Brown and welcome to another fucking podcast.

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Troy a sight, don't be a a oh Man. Not

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once great champ now sunny and mopishness no longer the

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factory hungry still wait right? So many times people by

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a pathetic wash up age ax champion. All right, let's go.

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I think you know the guy, and I think you

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know what, pretty dear? WHOA? His name is he Press

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pres Psley? What's my name? Say my name, bitch, my

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good friend? Is he Presley? Is he Presley? Pres couch?

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Is he Presley? WHOA? That sounds a little weird? Is

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he President? Is he Presley? Is he Presley? The heaviest,

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gurthiest rocky j around. Hey, this is Jeffer Are you

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listen to Izzy Presley? Those aren't pillows.

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Speaker 2: No, Jeff lebar, those are not pillows. Those are mind

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man cheeks. Hello, Las Vegas, Hello world, Hello, my loyal minions.

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It is good to see you. It is always good

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to be seeing them. Azzy Presley, I'm the host of

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the program. It's called Another FM podcast, and we're gonna

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have a good time here.

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Speaker 1: Audience clap. I like that. I like that, I like that,

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and you can turn this death. Push that, yeah, push

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it down there. You know how to use a microphone.

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I mean you've heard it, you've used it before.

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Speaker 2: Uh check maybe check out all the socials Real Azzy Presley, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,

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and the Patreon. Get on the Patreon. The Patreon is

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where it's at because you know what this is. It's

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Thursday night, right, Yeah, this is going to be up

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It's only five dollars a month. That's great, five bucks

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a month. In fact, I am subscribing as we speak

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right now.

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Speaker 1: I love you. As you give that too, I love

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I'll make sure my subscription is current, inactive. I love that,

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ladies and gentlemen. So and by the way, real quick

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before you say anything, any guys who subscribes tonight on

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Patreon gets poker chips from me, my customized Poka chef.

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Nice got the Keith Army on it right here. Nice,

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it's got the Ace on the front. It's you get

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a little bit of me, you get a little bit

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of a kiss me as kiss. So anybody who gets

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to Patreon, so just because of this episode, because of

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you have to say, this episode is one that that

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did it. You let me know who they are. I

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love them, I love it. I love anybody who's local.

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Any of your people on Patreon right now, they get

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to the show on the thirteenth, we'll talk about that. Okay,

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well we'll get there. So now, okay, this is hot.

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So Keith is it Keith Robert war Is it Keith Robert?

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Or is it Keith Robert Ward? Check? What is the

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official name?

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Speaker 2: You want to know the official one? I want to

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know the official Okay, stage? What is the stage?

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Speaker 1: The stage?

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Speaker 2: Because I don't know. I've I've heard Stony say Keith Robert.

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When you play with ak Keith, here is the is

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the guitar player in the Vegas version of Act He's

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He's the Vegas Ace. He plays with one last kiss.

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He plays ace. Obviously I introduced you. Is Keith Robert

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ware Stoney says, Keith Robert. Yeah, what is the.

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Speaker 1: Official one that you clear the air? It's Keith Robert

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War Keith Robert War, and that that's kind of new

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because I went through a lot of morphs in my life. Okay,

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my real name is Keith Robert Warchillaci, and I love

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warchill Ac. I'm very proud of it, but I wasn't

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proud of it. I was kind of like, as a kid,

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I was kind of under the impression that, like maybe

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changing your name was like the cool rock and roll

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thing to do. Tommy all well, right, yeah, so Keith Robert.

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I took Keith Robert, and I was like, I put

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an S on it, Keith Roberts. I was Keith Roberts

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for years. Okay, then I dropped the s. I went

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cold on the s. Okay, I just went because I

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was I was figuring, well, Jimmy Page has two first names.

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not to compare guitar work, which just names I'm comparing,

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but right right, And then I got comfortable with Worchike,

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rockets goal sorry sorry sorry, more hockey, more rock and roll. Yeah,

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time to like really just but I did. Then I

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got to the point I was like, War, it's too

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hard for everybody to try to pronounce Borchillac. I've been

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called every name and that you can imagine that rhymes

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with worchillac, so right, right, So yeah, I went shortening

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down rock and roll, Keith Robert War and uh, I'm

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just trying to keep it rock and roll. A little

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bit of war, a little bit of wachal. That's right,

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that's right. You know what sounds like war? Fucking ward And.

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Speaker 2: I missed using those drops because when I used to

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broadcast a lot through speaker, I had those drops, so

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they're both there in the show.

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Speaker 1: It was fucking great.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, before we move forward with ladies and gentlemen, Yeah,

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we gotta do this and hold hold on, hold on.

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Speaker 1: I have to do this.

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Speaker 2: And in honor of my close personal friends still Carl, Steve, Austin,

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crack one.

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Speaker 1: For the working man.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, God, damn, I love beer.

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Speaker 1: All right, the truth serum, the truth serum has entered.

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Speaker 2: It is, so let's let's talk about what you got

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the first off, before we get into the backstory, get

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Speaker 1: Keith Robert. Okay, whatever you want to do.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's let's talk about what we have coming up,

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because I am a part of this as well.

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Speaker 1: I am, and I'm honored to do it.

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Speaker 2: So, first off, if you're in Vegas on the twenty

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fourth of this month, so that's in fourteen days, there

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is a show at the Tuscany in the Coper Room,

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and it is a Halloween show.

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Speaker 1: That's correct, right, Yeah, okay, and we're doing Uh, everything's free,

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come on down. We're giving away money for best costumes.

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you know. Sorry, it's all going up and down. Uh,

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it keeps going. Uh. It's just a good local show,

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you know, free for everybody, just old school. You know.

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You're keeping it pretty light, having fun. It's Halloween. Yeah,

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you gotta have Yeah, you gotta have a show during Halloween.

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It's supposed to be fun exactly. That's why we do it, right,

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because it's fun. It is fun. It's that's what it's

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all about. I've had to learn that. It's yeah, well,

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everybody died. I've had to learn that. I'll be honest

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with you. You know, I go up and down with

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taking things too serious here and there, but I just

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care about everything, so well, yeah, I mean as well

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you should. You know, it's it's it's all that preparation,

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as you Yeah, yeah, preparation, preparation, preparation. Then when you

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get into it, when the makeup hits. Yeah, yeah, see

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that's the different thing. It's really exciting the makeup. It's

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exciting because you know there's a lot to it. I'm

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sure you can dig on that. Oh I can. I

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can appreciate it. I can imagine. No. The big thing, though,

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is next the big thing? This is the big thing? Yeah,

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for many reasons.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Yes, November thirteenth, November thirteenth, Yes, Las Vegas. Yeah,

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the as I jokingly call it, the kiss Tart Fest,

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is coming to town.

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Speaker 1: Okay, which I have heard that one yet, but.

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Speaker 2: That you know, they're gonna wear their pretty footy pajamas,

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they're gonna have a great time, and I'm jealous that

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I'm not going to be there. I still have to

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figure out how to get it, Okay, And so I

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jokingly jokingly say kiss tart Fest.

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Speaker 1: You know why, because I am a kiss tarten. We

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all are.

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Speaker 2: We kiss heart. So there's no official pre party for

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this thing. The Kiss Cruise, Landlocked or whatever. There is

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no official there is no official pre party, so you

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guys decided, why don't we do our own pre party. Well,

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I want to set the record straight, okay, please, Okay,

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So if anybody knows me, knowing how many years I've

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been doing this Kiss Trebute thing, I am ready to

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really put it in the pass and we're going to

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get to that. Okay, we are going to get it.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So this whole has been a lot of preparation

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and trying to have a lot of good gigs and

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have a lot of fun for the band. One Last

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Kiss is a fun, man, It's the only reason why

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I did it, because of Mike, Steve and Carl. It's

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a lot of fun. But this gig, you know, we

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booked this gig because we didn't have too many gigs

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left for the year, because I said I got to

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be done by the end of the year. So we

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did actually book the show right about a week before

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anything popped up. We had no prior knowledge about this. Okay,

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this is this was not I just want to make

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sure people know, like we didn't try to slip in.

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slip in. I don't got that kind of guy. I

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don't want to do that. You know, I'm not hooray

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here I am. You know, it just happened to be.

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to the Thursday. People are going to be flying in. Yeah,

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got that date on the weekend anyway, why don't we

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just take over the Thursday and have fun with it.

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into something enormous that we did not expect. And we've

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we're excited to do this. It's called Casa Blanca, right,

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and I wanted to take some cool stuff from the

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the whole Casa Blanca label. Every time you look at

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a record, you're just staring at that guy smoking a

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cigarette and yeah, you know, sometimes the blue labels, sometimes

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the silver labels, the brown labels, yep. And I was

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just dreaming. I'm like, you know, I missed the old

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school New York parties where we titled things and you

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went to things called something. Yeah, you know, so I

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was like, you know, let's do Casa blanca nineteen dollars

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and seventy five cents to get in, you know, a

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huge milestone today of all days, right, huge milestone for

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Kiss all Live. And you know, we wear those costumes

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with it. Let's have a little bit more fun with it.

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it got out of control, and you know, we're excited

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that everybody's coming down. We know that a lot of

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people are flying in. You know, I know that a

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lot of people are excited about the weekend. We just

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want people to come down have fun with Kiss Army

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from Las Vegas. You know, see what we bring to

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the town and just come for a rip row and

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rock and roll.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing is this show is not this

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is not a Kiss affiliated event.

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Speaker 1: It's not. This is by the Kiss Army for the

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Kiss Army. Correct. Yeah, it's a good point. Uh you

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know where the Kiss Army, you know, it is our

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territory and we gotta you know, this for me and

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for the band, and it's just all kind of happening

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at the same time. It's it was just great timing,

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right well, and it's so wild.

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Speaker 2: I did not know you guys had it booked that

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weekend and then this got the kiss thing you got

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right now, and you're like, well, well, first off, let's.

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Speaker 1: Because technically, I mean we didn't we I don't have

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any other gigs left for Las Vegas since VAMPS has closed,

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a Christmas thing, as we did Christmas last year. It

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was a huge success. It was a lot of fun.

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we had Whiskey, you know, and we've had some other

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kind of events, private events and whatnot, some good stuff

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Anaheim as well, but at a high even for you

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fans from right, Matt would love that from Australia. So

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you know, it was just good timing and it was

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really the only thing I had left in the tank

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for Vegas. It was it was. It started as my

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kind of like going away party. All right, this is

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the last time I'm going to do makeup. And I

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know everybody's been hearing me bitch and complain about this

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for years, but there's something real deep about it that

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I have to like move forward with. What so what

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you this is like your farewell tour. This is I'm

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the Kiss World correct, But that includes act as well,

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includes everything everything Kiss A couple other things about the party,

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you know exactly. The truth is is that it's a

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great night. It could it's a great day to be out.

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The weather's gonna be amazing already ten weeks that I

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can tell already. You know it's gonna be great. It's

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just uh, it's gonna be very fun. Bones is gonna

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be playing with us, opening up for us. I have

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to thank Christina and Patrick Vicliano for really helping us

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with you know, just kind of doing some cool stuff

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or we all got together and did the design of everything,

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been helping us with the event, and so thank you

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to them of course. And uh, we're excited to hang

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with the Bones and play and fun band. We've got

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Izzy Presley hosting it. Which is gonna be super cool.

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There might be some kiss trivia maybe right, there might

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be some kiss Shenanigans, Shenanigans. You know, it's gonna be

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a fun quick night. We got DJing Noise. Who is

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DJ dj Noise from Miami. Let me tell you something.

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This guy is stone cold cool. Okay. I met him

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over at the UH we were playing with the kiss

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Fest before they went I Don't on the cruise about

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a year or two ago with the freylist comment band.

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I don't know if you remember that.

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Speaker 2: I remember, which, yeah, yeah, we're okay, get there, okay,

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because that's part of the story.

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Speaker 1: Well that was cool because like, you know, you can

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tell he's from Miami, right, he's got the Miami swagger

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and the whole look and everything like that, and it's

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maybe he's close to it. He's a handsome fella, handsome

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fella and he just you know, he was like we'd

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see each other before the gig, you know, it's kind

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of keeping a low profile, and then the day after

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he was just like that was really cool. You know,

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he really got a lot of enjoyment out of the set,

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and he gave me some praise. It was really nice.

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You know, we just we just stayed in touch. He's

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a great dude. He's a big DJ out in Miami,

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you know, but he's a mega Kiss fan. He's one

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of the biggest Kiss fans in like the world. He

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knows everything. Is a drummer. He goes up and plays

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with bands often and everything like that, you know, Kiss

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events and stuff like that. So he's looking forward to this.

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I know he is very much. And he's getting married.

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So congratulations nice, right know. DJ Noise is great. He's

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going to be spinning I told him, spin kiss in

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rock and roll whatever. I said, whatever you want to spin,

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spin some rock and roll. Uh, there's gonna be some

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cool drink specials nice which I know you saw.

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Speaker 2: I did, I did. I still think the muff punt

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would be a great idea.

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Speaker 1: Ah well, I got Christina told me I can't use

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pussy punch. Well yeah, well it's not pussy punch. It's

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not it's it's the buff punch. Cheers to that man. Sorry,

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oh my god.

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Speaker 2: So well, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna say this right now. Yeah,

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I'm going to offer this service. If you're coming to

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this thing, if you're coming to the Casablanca unofficial official

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pre party.

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Speaker 1: Yes that we're doing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I am a licensed marriage back you do. I

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can marry people legally.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: If you come to the show and you are planning

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on getting married in Vegas that weekend, that would be cool.

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Get your make sure you get the license. Okay, there's

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rules today.

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Speaker 1: Anybody who gets married through you or anybody that you

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know gets married that we can gets into the show

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for free. I love it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but get your get your license, get all that

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shit taken care of. Come to the show. We'll marry

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you on stage, okay, and I'll do I'll do a

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special because maybe we have a whole group of people.

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Speaker 1: Okay, getting married. You can do it all one hundred

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bucks a couple. Let's just jam the mill. Then. I

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love it, right, I love it. That's a good November wedding.

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I love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it. That's good.

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We're giving away chips, marriage licenses, and uh well the

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rights to your soulf. We're not giving away the license

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them off the pay. We're giving away your soul, giving

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away your soul.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so this and how many tickets are available

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for this show?

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Speaker 1: Current? There? I know it's close to look, you know

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the old trick with business, right, there's only a few

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tickets left. There's only a few tickets. Ron, do not

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walk to your little no, no, no, no, no, no, for real, there's

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actually only a couple of tickets left. Mike told me

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today there was seventeen tickets left. Ye now when we

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pre sold it all the tables and pretty much like

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I'm sure, the tickets just went. And you know, between me, Steve, Mike,

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you call, and Christina and Patrick and everybody, how many

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friends and fans and family do we know that are

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coming in from the world, all over the globe for

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different universes for this and listen, you know, the truth

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is is that you know, kisses to be celebrated on

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all levels. I love it. I am happy that Kiss

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is doing this. I'm never I'm never against Kiss doing anything.

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I'm never against Kiss performing of any sort, Rock on

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forever do everything. Kiss should be celebrated, and I'm glad

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that everybody is celebrating it. You know, I want to

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give a shout out to Kiss Nation because the Gene

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Simmons and the band Joe Anastazi, he's the guy who

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kind of raised me into this world. He taught me

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everything about Kiss. He taught me every ace FAILI lead.

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And I'm happy for him and I'm super excited that

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he's playing the Kiss again, as I mean, it's a

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big thing for them there my boys from New York

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City as well, so you know, I'm just happy. People

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from around the world are all coming in and there's

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plenty to go around for everybody. Planny a Kiss the

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whole weekend. We want to see everybody. We want to

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We want to hang with everybody. We want to see

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all of our friends. Stop by. Even if you don't

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come in, say hello, whisper wave. We just want to

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see people because it's fun. It's like New York City,

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you know when Kiss Kiss with the buzz in ninety

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seven ninety six. The camaraderie around Kiss fans is just

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out of control.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's so weird. It's like it's like Minnesota's Minnesotans.

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When you see somebody else and you find out they're

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from Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: Hey, where where I'm gonna say, cloud, Oh, I know

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that I've been there.

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Speaker 1: I've been drunk. Yeah, exactly. I love bringing up Minnesota

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because I always like to tell people I know the

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juicy lucy. Yes, I know the chocolate cow, right the

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beer that you don't know the chocolate cow? Is that

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a Wisconsin thing? Maybe that's no, you're thinking the spotted

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cow spotty cat is? How dare you sorry? Man? It's

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been a long It's been ten years since I've had

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a spotted cat. It's all God, No, it's good. I

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love Minnesota. No, it's a lot of fun. Yea.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot of fun in the summertime. Yeah,

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so this is the summertime in the summertime. Only Minnesota

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people really get that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, it's great. No, I love the winter there too,

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but I don't live there. Yeah. But have you ever

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felt seventy below zero? Yeah? See they're exhausting.

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Speaker 2: I never one. Ten is so much better, yea, though,

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it's true. So this is so run, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Run.

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Speaker 2: Do not walk to your local ticket office, which is

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your computer. Where can they buy tickets?

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Speaker 1: You know? I should have that prepared. I don't have it.

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Would you just go to like the dive bar dot com.

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Just come to the dive bar if you if you're

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gonna be there, just walk in and walk in and

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pay the nineteen dollars and seventy five cents, but so low.

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You know, it's it's gonna be jammed, but we've left

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enough room there. I love this playing room. So there

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will be walk up room and it's gonna be you know,

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there's gonna be all local rockers, all our friends are

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gonna be there. You know. I want to see all

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my friends come out. You know. It's it means a

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lot to me, and I know it means a lot

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to the band. But the band has been on fire. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,

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the band has not been taking any prisoners, right. I

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think it's a I think it's a special band, by

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the way, one less Kiss. You know, it's just it's raw,

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it's dirty, there's nothing awkward. It's just right punching your

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face rock and roll. The guys are singing, well, you know,

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we're using amps. It's a beautiful thing, you know, and

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we're set up like kiss. Yeah. I see, I see,

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you know, not knocking people. But I see bands on

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the sidewhere they got their amps like facing in and

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like weird stuff and stuff like that. I'm a stickler

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for a Kiss tribute shit, you know, well, real real

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stickler for ship like that.

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Speaker 2: No, that's not even kiss to me. That's just dude,

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that's fucking being in a fucking rock band. Your fucking

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amps behind you, moving air. Just just give me the

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rock and roll. Just give me the old school, you

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know what I mean. As much as you like to

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say that, oh it's a kemper, but nobody can tell

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everybody can tell it. Right now, I'll let me tell you.

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My head has been in deep in kempers lately for

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the past two weeks.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. I'm working on it, and I've got a

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project going on. It's not it doesn't it sounds like

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a CD. It's it's it's a difference. An amp is

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not supposed to sound perfect now, and we're using real apps. Good,

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it sounds good. That's good. That's good.

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Speaker 2: So this is, as you alluded to. This is your

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this is your way out. This is the Keith Robert

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wore Goodbye Kiss World, playing wise. Yeah, all things Kiss,

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farewell to all things Kiss.

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Speaker 1: All things Kiss. I've made the decision all things Kiss.

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It's it's really difficult, but I wanted to try to

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push this because kiss has been you know, I'm I know,

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like it's kind of stupid. It's not like I want

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to abolish Kiss. It's just like I've been doing Kiss

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since I was fifteen. Yeah, Like it's been every day

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thirteen forty since I was five. You know, it's not

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kiss Kiss Kiss. You know, I did give up. I

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did give up Row five Gene side Row five Madison

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Square Garden last night of Kiss to play a show

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here in Vegas. And I did it on purpose, and

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my buddy it was just it was just regular price.

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We were gonna go, you know, and he's like, ding

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fifth Row Gene. I'm like, oh man, that's acide. You

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want to be on too, Like I can't believe this,

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but I you know, I gotta say no. You know,

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I got to put Keith before Kiss, right, you know,

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And you know everybody's got to try to put their

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art and everything like that and theirselves before stuff. So

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you know, you keep doing more Kiss tribute shows, you

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know you're you're not being Keith anymore, you know, Right,

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I've been ace for so long and I've had a

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lot of fun, but I also it's like, you know,

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I've also been dreaming my whole life of like a

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real kiss, like professional kiss tribute Kiss two point zero

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you know. Yeah, I've been dreaming about that my whole life.

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In fact, the night Kiss Play, I was at the

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Sandala playing with Rtrosonic and somebody's like they made an

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announcement about a new band, and I kind of was like,

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I went into like freak out mode. I'm my wad

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a bitte. They did this without me. My god, I

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didn't even have a chance. And then I was like,

465
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then I got home and I woke up and my

466
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,559
life was ruined with one word avatar yep, And I

467
00:22:20,599 --> 00:22:22,599
was like, wow, this is a breath of fresh air,

468
00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:25,640
you know. But look, I'm really passionate about it. I

469
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,920
love this stuff so much, but I can't do it

470
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,440
to the capacity that I want to do it anymore. Yeah,

471
00:22:31,519 --> 00:22:33,759
it's not there anymore. It's to be in it. It's

472
00:22:33,799 --> 00:22:37,039
not just the hard the financials, you know, everything, it's

473
00:22:37,079 --> 00:22:37,920
all got to be there.

474
00:22:38,039 --> 00:22:41,519
Speaker 2: There's that because look, here's and this is just me

475
00:22:41,599 --> 00:22:45,319
speculating on part of it is you're not on the road.

476
00:22:46,519 --> 00:22:49,880
You're not fucking going down to town doing your kiss show,

477
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,359
you know, three times, three nights, four nights a week.

478
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:58,279
Speaker 1: You're doing flyouts. Hear this, And here's the thing, as

479
00:22:58,319 --> 00:23:03,480
I've told Mike, I go the gimmick is the best

480
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,599
thing in the world, and it makes so much money,

481
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,640
and it is always great to see a new gimmick.

482
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,440
And I use that word lightly, but you can't compete

483
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,640
with many Kiss, you can't compete with hair Ball, you

484
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,680
can't compete with Steeve Panther. They're genius ideas and they're

485
00:23:20,799 --> 00:23:23,240
they're made for a reason because it's fun. And I

486
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,799
think it's great that bands are just taking that not

487
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,119
so seriously, you know. But we've talked about a couple

488
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,880
of ideas, me and Mike, We've talked about a couple

489
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,720
of things that we want to do, but I just

490
00:23:33,839 --> 00:23:36,599
really want to do more Keith, you know. Yeah, and

491
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,240
that's really it for me. You know.

492
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Kiss, you know, I love dude. It's

493
00:23:40,759 --> 00:23:44,799
it's understandable. It's what it's like, even though I'm not

494
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:45,839
in it like you are.

495
00:23:46,839 --> 00:23:47,079
Speaker 1: You know.

496
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 2: It's like I have the Ace Fairly tribute show. It's

497
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,440
about more about the music, yeah, and habit.

498
00:23:53,559 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 1: It's but you do have fun. It's really fun. It's

499
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:57,799
really fun.

500
00:23:57,839 --> 00:24:00,839
Speaker 2: It's not but it's not fucking serious. It's like we're

501
00:24:00,839 --> 00:24:03,039
playing Kiss songs. With our friends are getting paid for it. Yeah,

502
00:24:03,039 --> 00:24:05,799
you know it's not a full blown tribute show, but

503
00:24:05,839 --> 00:24:07,680
that's and you know I played with the smoke Kills,

504
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,559
which is fucking awesome because.

505
00:24:09,319 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: It's original music.

506
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: And that's why I you know, I said to you,

507
00:24:12,279 --> 00:24:14,599
it was like, fucking I have an idea. Let's write

508
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,160
some fucking songs. Yeah, this is the the way I

509
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,960
want to go. This is my vision for it. And

510
00:24:21,319 --> 00:24:22,680
it's like, we'll see, We'll see what happened.

511
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,759
Speaker 1: You know you should. So when did your kiss story start? Wow?

512
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,480
I give a lot of credit to this dude named

513
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,799
Carlos Espada. I was working at a music store in

514
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,960
like nineteen ninety four, ninety five, and me and him,

515
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,920
he was some dude from Queen's and we shared this

516
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,200
like kiss video list because I was hardcore. I had this.

517
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,880
I had all this shit before all these guys had it.

518
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,559
I've seen it all. Yeah yeah yeah. We trade and

519
00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:52,440
we trade and we trade, and one day he came

520
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,759
out He's like, I want to play bass, I do gene,

521
00:24:54,799 --> 00:24:57,119
And he came out, I'm trying to like make a quick,

522
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,400
long story. I mean, I've we got time. I wouldn't

523
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,079
believe my brother when I was like nine. He brought

524
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,720
me to see Kiss Army as Jerry. Sorry if I'm

525
00:25:06,759 --> 00:25:12,839
not saying his name correctly, Jerry Garoffalo. Sorry. Probably Bill

526
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:18,400
Sabetta if I remember correctly. Mike Sivo definitely on drums

527
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:25,000
as Peter, and probably either Tony or it could have

528
00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:28,599
been the dude from New Jersey. But I saw this

529
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,039
and I was like, wait a minute. I mean, this

530
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,039
is cool that somebody's doing it. I mean I saw

531
00:25:32,079 --> 00:25:36,200
the Spiro Papadato stuff on him, and the Tommy Thayer

532
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,839
and Jamie Saint James. I saw that. When like at

533
00:25:38,839 --> 00:25:41,480
the same time, I see this show called Jim, I'm like,

534
00:25:41,519 --> 00:25:44,480
wait a minute, people do this. I'm like young, I'm like, well,

535
00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:46,920
you know, I never even thought about it because I'm like,

536
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,640
I was never even a guitar player. I never even

537
00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:51,359
I never even believed in myself to be a guitar player.

538
00:25:51,519 --> 00:25:54,200
I was too afraid. Then I finally picked it up.

539
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,400
I was like, wait a minute, you know, I could

540
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,640
try this. About a year out of high school, I

541
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,759
find after two or three years of knowing Carlos, He's like,

542
00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:04,279
I'm gonna come out and meet you, and it was

543
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,000
really a nice moment to me, you know, but it

544
00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:09,480
was just it was it was unique. You know. He's like, uh,

545
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,960
you know, a boy green kind of guy. You know,

546
00:26:12,839 --> 00:26:15,039
pen pals and kind of like yeah, pen pals with

547
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,079
the Swap Kiss. Yeah yeah, Swap Kiss video. So you

548
00:26:18,079 --> 00:26:20,359
were traders. Yeah yeah. So we got together to meet

549
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,599
one day and Carlos is a is a doll and

550
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,200
he brought me into this rehearsal studio to jam with

551
00:26:28,319 --> 00:26:30,799
Jerry from Kiss Army, the guy I always saw when

552
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:33,920
I was a kid, and Bobby Cicco and they were

553
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,960
trying to put together something and I come and play,

554
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,039
and I play my ass off playing whatever I knew

555
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,640
was Kiss, and I didn't know. I didn't know it

556
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,839
as good as I know today. I just kind of

557
00:26:43,839 --> 00:26:46,279
winged it. But it was cool back then because like

558
00:26:46,319 --> 00:26:49,880
the older dudes were like this kid can play, Like yeah,

559
00:26:50,039 --> 00:26:52,799
he can hang. He's like the kid, you know. That

560
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,720
was the fun part. And then like it's like two

561
00:26:55,799 --> 00:27:00,880
days later, this is in nineteen ninety seven, from April.

562
00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:03,440
A couple of days later, Bobby calls me the guy

563
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,200
I just met that night that Carlos introduced me. He's like, hey, man,

564
00:27:07,519 --> 00:27:11,880
I got this band. They kind of need a bass player,

565
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,279
but why don't you come down? Unlet's just jam, and

566
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,319
this is all happening really fast. I get down and

567
00:27:16,319 --> 00:27:20,440
I meet Joe Montagna, Joe Anastasi, and Bobby Cicco and

568
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,759
now Joe Anastasi. They were all in a band called

569
00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:25,119
New York City's Dressed to Kill, And you can see

570
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,640
all this cool stuff on YouTube that Bobby Cicco put

571
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,519
a whole thing on. He documented everything back in nineteen

572
00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:33,039
ninety seven. It was really cool. So long story short,

573
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,640
which there never is a long story with a short

574
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,000
story with me. That's fine. So I come in that

575
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:44,319
day and Joe was the ace, So I'm coming in.

576
00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:46,880
I'm just playing guitar and he shows up and he

577
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,039
puts the bass on and they don't even need to

578
00:27:49,079 --> 00:27:50,720
really introduce me to him, so I don't even know

579
00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:52,799
who he is. She just losts to four in the room.

580
00:27:52,839 --> 00:27:55,640
And then we played Deuce and I did the whole

581
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,720
thing where I dropped to my knees and I go

582
00:27:57,839 --> 00:27:59,720
all the way back and I'm doing the black diamond

583
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,000
thing and they're like looking at me and I'm peaking.

584
00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:06,119
I'm like peaking yeah, peaking while I'm rock And I'm like,

585
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,279
do they think it's cool? Do they think it's cool? Yeah?

586
00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:11,559
And they thought it was cool. So I left. I'm like,

587
00:28:11,599 --> 00:28:13,039
I'm gonna go take a piss. I want to go

588
00:28:13,079 --> 00:28:14,759
smoke a bowl of course, because I had to be

589
00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:18,279
secretive about it back then. I come back and they're like,

590
00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:20,200
what are you doing this summer right? And I'm like,

591
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,319
nothing working and they're like, well, we're going on tour.

592
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,279
He's going to become Jean. You're going to become Ace

593
00:28:26,759 --> 00:28:29,039
So Dressed to kill New York City's Dressed to kill,

594
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,440
Joe Montagna, Joe Anastizing, Bobby Cicco. They are my holy

595
00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:36,319
Bible of kiss. They brought me into this whole world.

596
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,319
We went out with no cell phone, no social media,

597
00:28:39,599 --> 00:28:41,599
into a van and we did three months out on

598
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,599
the road. We booked all over America. We played some

599
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,160
of the greatest rock and roll concerts that ever existed.

600
00:28:47,319 --> 00:28:51,039
I mean some of the most raucous, raucous moments, which

601
00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:55,039
you could all see on YouTube forty five minute version

602
00:28:55,079 --> 00:28:59,599
of one hundred thousand Years. Because Jesus Arbus, Christy Carbus Christie.

603
00:28:59,599 --> 00:29:02,400
They were and they were passing bottles of Jack Daniels everywhere.

604
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,839
It was nuts. I never seen people party like this

605
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,400
in my life. I mean this and this is wild.

606
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,359
I'm still nineteen, yeah, yeah, yeah, So New York City's

607
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,200
Dressed to Kill really brought me into this whole thing.

608
00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:18,359
Turns out, when we got back after the tour, Bobby

609
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,160
Seco got married, moved down to Texas, and Alan Rollary

610
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,240
came back to the band to Dress to Kill. Alan

611
00:29:25,359 --> 00:29:29,240
Rollary and Joseph Anastasi playing Kiss Nation. Who are playing

612
00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:31,079
coming up this way? Yeah at the Kiss play right,

613
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,720
So they are. They are very very important to me.

614
00:29:34,119 --> 00:29:37,519
They've they've brought me to this kiss world and trained

615
00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:39,319
me into the art of rock and roll. So I

616
00:29:39,359 --> 00:29:41,880
owe them a lot. And the whole Kiss Tribute things

617
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,000
started right there. I never stopped. I Then my next

618
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,960
big band I went into was Hotter than Hell. I

619
00:29:47,079 --> 00:29:50,400
filled in for Scott McCluskey. I played with Andrew French,

620
00:29:51,319 --> 00:29:54,640
Andrew Frinche is a whole different thing. I can get

621
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,119
into a very very long story. What years were we

622
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,000
with Horder than Hell?

623
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:04,039
Speaker 2: Two thousand was in in one two thousand? Did you

624
00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:11,720
ever play a Saint Cloud Minnesota Press Bar. I was there. Wow,

625
00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:14,839
I was there, snowed it was there. Was that the

626
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,599
day that it snowed. There was a big and we

627
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,480
got locked in. Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay I worked there.

628
00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:25,160
I wasn't working that night, but I was there. Wow,

629
00:30:25,319 --> 00:30:27,640
that's amazing. I have footage of it. I have it.

630
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,440
I have it on footage. That's because you know the

631
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,640
press is gone. Oh yeah, I'm sure it burnt down.

632
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:33,640
Oh yeah yeah, I didn't know it.

633
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,839
Speaker 1: It burnt down five years ago. I didn't know that. Yeah, bumber,

634
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,920
sorry to hear that. Yeah, Minnesota's always been a great,

635
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,160
great place to tour for anything rock and roll. Remember

636
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,880
do you ever go to what was that a place

637
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,000
called in Fargo, North Dakota. I can't remember what it

638
00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:51,160
was called. Somebody correct me out there. Anyway, that whole

639
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,359
not ahle Hot than Health thing was wild. Yeah, it

640
00:30:54,440 --> 00:31:00,440
was really wild. It was like that was like almost

641
00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:03,559
being like homeless and living on the road for like

642
00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:06,839
two years with French and me and the guys. I mean,

643
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,440
sometimes it was Yayo dark Angelus on base. Sometimes it

644
00:31:13,559 --> 00:31:17,480
was forgive Me. I can't remember his name. He passed away.

645
00:31:17,839 --> 00:31:23,640
I'll remember Ray Ray from Winnipeg Ray from Winnipeg, the

646
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,480
home of the Paul Stanleys. Yes, Kelly right, Yes, I

647
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:31,960
love Kelly hotter than hell. You know. Then I just

648
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,079
from like two thousand and two, two thousand and three,

649
00:31:34,119 --> 00:31:36,160
it was just like play with everybody, you know. I

650
00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:39,960
got to play with Kiss Army, Gary Stevens and Troy

651
00:31:40,119 --> 00:31:42,359
and all those guys, and it just then I finally

652
00:31:42,359 --> 00:31:44,680
got to the Vegas thing. I started playing with Lewis,

653
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,640
you know, with we were called something else before Sin

654
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:54,160
City kiss Uh. And then you know, I just I

655
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,240
put it. I put it down for a while, you know,

656
00:31:56,279 --> 00:31:58,000
I didn't want to do it anymore. And then I

657
00:31:59,119 --> 00:32:03,400
just once talked about you was Ittony? Please say it

658
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,160
with Stony's fault. Stony has a lot to do with

659
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,480
it because he put me to work. You know when

660
00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:12,400
when I moved to Vegas and they so kindly welcomed

661
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,640
me into their into it.

662
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,599
Speaker 2: You know what, I'm gonna hold you right there. This

663
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,680
is one thing that I love about this town. When

664
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:24,160
you when I moved to La, this is La You play?

665
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,119
What do you do Vegas? Dude?

666
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Let's make money, Tom, Let's make money. That's what

667
00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:36,480
it's so welcoming here of course. Yeah, yeah, you know

668
00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:43,960
that Stony and his crew, Stony, Morpheus, Sean and uh

669
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:49,400
forgive me, it'll come to me. Okay. They did a

670
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,039
great thing for rock and roll. They were a great

671
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:54,759
thing for Las Vegas, and they they did something that

672
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,519
brought the community in that was magical, you know, I mean,

673
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,720
who can complain with you know, almost eight hours of

674
00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:07,960
Kiss and everybody performing it. Yeah, you know, everybody contests,

675
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:10,000
you know, giving the money away to the kids here

676
00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:12,160
in the town. It was. It was amazing. So yeah,

677
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,359
Stony does have something to do with it. But excuse me,

678
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,440
it's just I love Steve to death. I love Steve Mitchell.

679
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,880
Steve Mitchell. Everybody knows him in the Kiss world as

680
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,880
a Chip and Paul. I'm sure a lot of Kiss

681
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,680
cruisers out there and everything like that probably know him

682
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,559
as Chip and Paul. I love Steve to death. He's

683
00:33:30,599 --> 00:33:33,240
one of the best people in the world. I enjoy

684
00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:35,960
being around him, which is not easy to say about

685
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,839
band members. You know, I love Mike camp be On

686
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:46,200
to death, stellar human being, completely stellar, and he's a

687
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,599
He's a big weight in the band, you know, as

688
00:33:48,599 --> 00:33:51,240
far as holding it down with the vocals and yeah, Bason,

689
00:33:51,359 --> 00:33:53,480
he you know, the bass is really important in that

690
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:56,200
band Kiss. It really is. Don't have the bass, you

691
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,839
don't have Kiss exactly.

692
00:33:57,839 --> 00:34:02,599
Speaker 2: Well, then this is one thing that always always it

693
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,200
doesn't piss it just it's like whatever when people say,

694
00:34:06,279 --> 00:34:08,760
oh yeah, they just can't play their instruments, it's just

695
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:09,119
a show.

696
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: It was like, dude, you have no fucking idea. You

697
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,679
have no idea. This is is. I don't know if

698
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,840
they're only ready because you know we have We're billions

699
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,519
strong in the Kiss. I mean, no one's gonna fight

700
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:23,039
this thing. It's like ac DC Kiss is the most

701
00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:27,159
overrated and underrated band at the same time. Likely yeah, yeah,

702
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,280
probably a safe thing to say. Yeah, but uh and

703
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,639
that's not a shot. Boy. The guitar work between Paul

704
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,320
and Ace, dude, dude, I mean it's unbelievable. You know this,

705
00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:41,199
These are okay, So now we now realizing why I

706
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:46,079
got back into this. It's tapping into me. Everybody who

707
00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:47,960
knows me out there, who's ever played with me, knows

708
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,599
that it might be a little bit of a struggle.

709
00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:51,199
Every once in a while. I can be tough in

710
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,679
the studio. I can be tough when it comes to production.

711
00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:56,840
I'm not ashamed of it. And Stony taught me this,

712
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,360
don't be ashamed of it. It was very shy of

713
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,239
it for years. But you don't get anywhere without getting

714
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:08,119
it right. It's true. So you know, I don't fucking

715
00:35:08,199 --> 00:35:12,000
play with me because you're awesome on guitar and you're

716
00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:15,119
fun to play with and you're just a light of

717
00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:18,719
fresh a light of fresh air, you know, in this world. Yeah,

718
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,760
it is fun anyway. Sorry, you know, you do a

719
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,199
great The whole Act brand and everything like that is

720
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,639
genius and you should be really proud of that. You know.

721
00:35:25,679 --> 00:35:27,679
Everybody's got their take in the Kiss world. We all

722
00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:31,760
have our things, you know, but you know, I just

723
00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:34,719
I want the songs to be played correctly. I want

724
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,280
the drums to be played correctly. You know. We it's

725
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,079
it's not easy to do the vocals, you know, vocals

726
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:43,239
for everybody gets harder and harder. You know, it's very

727
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,800
difficult for bands, you know. But I have this crazy, crazy,

728
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,159
crazy thing that kind of broke me and Lewis up

729
00:35:50,159 --> 00:35:54,199
for years from Sin City Kiss and I'll be I'll

730
00:35:54,199 --> 00:35:57,599
be honest about it, you know. You know, we got

731
00:35:57,599 --> 00:36:00,559
into it a lot because you know, I try to

732
00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:02,639
explain to people that if you want to be kiss,

733
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,719
if you're trying to portray kiss, and if you're trying

734
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,960
to bring the message of kiss to the people. Okay,

735
00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:10,760
there's this thing that really gripes me. It's my red flag.

736
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,440
It's when a band puts a microphone center stage. Okay,

737
00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:17,719
I really, I'm really against it. Okay, do everything else.

738
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,400
I know we're not perfect, and I know it's hard

739
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,360
to get right, but understand why Kiss was kissed because

740
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,159
of the Beatles. Okay. Yeah, So the Beatles tradition is

741
00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:28,199
no one members any more important than the next man. Right,

742
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,760
So you've got Ringo, you've got John, you've got Paul,

743
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:34,639
and you got George, right, and George goes all over

744
00:36:34,639 --> 00:36:36,559
the place, but you got in your mainstays and you

745
00:36:36,599 --> 00:36:39,000
look at the Beatles and you see everybody, well that's

746
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:43,079
kiss okay, and it's big to me. It's it's the

747
00:36:43,199 --> 00:36:46,519
eminem theory for Van Helen. If I go and I

748
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:48,840
see that I'm not happy with the band, it's like

749
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,599
if you get the contract with Van Hellen, you see

750
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:53,599
the brown Eminem's everything's fucked right. Well, that's how that's

751
00:36:53,639 --> 00:36:55,280
when I go to a show, I go, oh, this

752
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,920
is fucked him out of here. I'm really a big

753
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,280
stickle about this. So me and Lewis disagreed on this.

754
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,840
For a very very long time. I stopped playing with

755
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,719
cin City Kiss. I didn't want to do Kiss anymore.

756
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,320
I'd just really been done with it when we did

757
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,719
the Las Vegas trip, which I've been told Sin Citikiss

758
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,840
was the only Kiss tributeman to ever play on Las

759
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,599
Vegas Boulevard really as a theater show, really, that is true.

760
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,639
So we opened up planning Hollywood with a show called Compendium,

761
00:37:23,199 --> 00:37:24,960
and we had a lot of great people helping with us,

762
00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:26,800
but we also had a great a lot of people

763
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,440
that were not great. And I did not like that,

764
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,199
and it was not Lewis. Lewis was great. He was

765
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,559
just stuck between a rock and a hard place. That happens.

766
00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:37,559
So after like two thousand and I just I had

767
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:40,159
twenty and fifteen sixteen. I just couldn't take it anymore. So,

768
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,079
you know, seeing Steve and seeing and Mike and by

769
00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:46,599
the way, Carl is just a knockout drummer. Yeah, he's

770
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,800
not one of the biggest Peter Chris fans in the world,

771
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,199
and he loves Eric Carr equally, and he's just a

772
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,800
real class sack behind the drums. So these guys are great.

773
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,280
We had a meeting January of twenty twenty five, and

774
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,519
here I am at the office all day ago. You know,

775
00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:03,880
I'm gonna go to this meeting to roll up my sleeves.

776
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,119
Now I'm gonna go in there and I'm gonna go

777
00:38:06,639 --> 00:38:10,880
I ain't doing this. I'm done. Boy. I walked out

778
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,119
of that meeting with a whole year of work and

779
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,400
I'm not a whole year book of shows. And it's like,

780
00:38:17,159 --> 00:38:19,360
I don't I said to them, I don't want to

781
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,760
do this to you guys. I feel bad. I don't

782
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,079
want to ditch you guys. I don't want to like

783
00:38:24,159 --> 00:38:25,639
do that to you. You guys should be able to

784
00:38:25,679 --> 00:38:30,840
live your dreams too. But I just, you know, I

785
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,960
think it's time for me. I can't speak for everybody else,

786
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,039
but it's time for me. You know, I get it, dude,

787
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:36,719
I get it.

788
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,159
Speaker 2: If your heart's not there, there's no reason to go

789
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,559
out there and go through the molds.

790
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,079
Speaker 1: And you know, I want to stand on my business here.

791
00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:48,960
My heart's there, you know. Yeah, the commitment's not there.

792
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:51,519
You know. I love Kiss, you know, I wanted if

793
00:38:51,519 --> 00:38:53,320
I could do it on that big scale, I would

794
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,880
love to do it. Yeah. I always dreamed Kiss would

795
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,920
do a professional Kiss tribute band in Japan and Dude

796
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,039
Destroyer and then a professional History be band. Stop stealing

797
00:39:03,039 --> 00:39:07,199
my ideas, Jean, A Professional History be band in Australia,

798
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,000
their Dynasty a professional History be band in America, their

799
00:39:10,039 --> 00:39:12,320
Love Gun a professional History be band in Europe. They're

800
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,000
like Live Coba Hall kind of you know, like kind

801
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,679
of like split it up around the world, you know,

802
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,119
kind of cool shit. I love it more than anything,

803
00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:24,719
you know, But I just I just I want to

804
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,079
do some of the stuff. And plus I've got some

805
00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:27,679
stuff book next year and I want to kind of

806
00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:30,440
focus on it, you know that. Well, yeah, that is

807
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,840
what you know about my phone call from Gene Simmons. Though,

808
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,559
right I no, I do not, please don't, Okay, I'll

809
00:39:35,559 --> 00:39:36,840
send it to you. I could play it for you

810
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,119
if you want. But so I was playing with Jesse

811
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,519
Camp so between after Dress to Kill. You know, that's

812
00:39:42,559 --> 00:39:46,239
a great story, you know. Paul Browner from Birchill's like

813
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,000
a Jesse Camp wants to meet you. We go down

814
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:52,000
to the beach House, which was like a life changing event.

815
00:39:52,519 --> 00:39:55,440
How we got to the beach house, how it happened

816
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:01,880
was astronomically almost not possible. Okay, to get there because

817
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,599
I had seen Jesse on TV or.

818
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,639
Speaker 2: Jesse if you're wondering. Jesse was the Jesse Camp from MTV.

819
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,519
He was the weird DJ Weird TJ WEIRDJ And I

820
00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:15,639
know Jesse as well. We've had this conversation. He's the

821
00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:19,639
sweetest guy. He is the sweetest dude.

822
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,639
Speaker 1: He's the sweetest guy in the world I've never had.

823
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,159
We'll get to that of we'll get to that at

824
00:40:24,159 --> 00:40:26,519
the time. I love Jesse. He changed my life. Yeah,

825
00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:28,840
but he also then are you empty? Battle? I am it?

826
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,280
Would you like another one? I would like him. I

827
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:32,360
happened to have one more left with your name on it.

828
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,199
As long as you have one, I have one right

829
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:36,960
in front of Okay, Okay, I don't want to I

830
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,760
don't still. I have to do this, right? Is this?

831
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:45,480
Where is it? Is it so battling? No? No, no,

832
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,280
no no, I just have to do something. Oh Ship,

833
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,639
all right, so you can keep telling the story. Are

834
00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:55,639
you still recording? Yeah? I didn't pause it. Okay, guys,

835
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,559
never pause anything, dude. All right, so you keep telling

836
00:40:58,599 --> 00:41:00,559
forgot like smokes outside. I thought you were politive. I

837
00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:07,000
was gonna go run out, but uh so, uh we

838
00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:09,760
get to meet Jesse, right and Jesse's like, dude, he

839
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,000
like grabs me. He's like, You're not going anywhere, and

840
00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:15,920
I'm like, I kind of like land this in my head,

841
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,840
like I visioned this, you know, like I saw this happening,

842
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:24,119
you know, But what was the point of the story

843
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,280
we were talking about between you know, the ki historybut

844
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:44,320
stuff I was doing bestie camp and okay, here we go.

845
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,719
God bless you. I gave him drinking, but I put

846
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,159
it in for today in my contract. Well I appreciate it, yeah,

847
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,920
only for you. All Right, there we go. I mean

848
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,519
it's it is kind of an abduber with Kelsey. So cheers,

849
00:41:54,519 --> 00:41:58,360
Thank you very much. Cheers to Minnesota, to the wild

850
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,199
and to the Nights. Good names to say that wild

851
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:08,079
one tonight. By the way, I five nothing Zukerrellarella get

852
00:42:08,119 --> 00:42:12,360
some advertising for them. Jesse. You know, there were so

853
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,400
many wild things that was going on with you know,

854
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,559
like especially his album coming out blah blah, blah blah.

855
00:42:16,559 --> 00:42:18,480
He's like, you know, blah blah blah. So I'm at home.

856
00:42:18,639 --> 00:42:21,719
We lived in New York City in Lower East Side

857
00:42:23,199 --> 00:42:27,159
on Houston Street, and I leave, I go to get

858
00:42:27,159 --> 00:42:28,960
some food. I come back and I see the beep.

859
00:42:29,079 --> 00:42:32,760
Now it's the tape tape voicemail. Yeah, yeah, those are

860
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,840
the I remember those very very well. I'm a little one. Yeah. Okay.

861
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,920
So I see it, and I I mean, should I

862
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,000
pull it up? Should I? Do you want to hear it?

863
00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:46,280
Or you want to you could play it, I'll say,

864
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,239
I'll say, I'll say I'll drop a link or something

865
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,639
like that, drop a link. Long story short. I see

866
00:42:50,679 --> 00:42:55,199
the beeping. I'm like, what is this. He's like Jesse's like, Keith,

867
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,079
if you're there, pick up now. He's like, pick up,

868
00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:01,719
pick up, pick up, nowhere to be found? Yeah, getting

869
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,159
some food? Yeah, gee, Like grabs the phone out of

870
00:43:05,199 --> 00:43:08,800
He's like, give me that phone. He's like Keith, and

871
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,760
he looks at you. He's like, yes, boss, yes, boss, Keith.

872
00:43:13,079 --> 00:43:15,960
I hear you do a great ace. So if face

873
00:43:16,039 --> 00:43:18,400
gets sick, maybe you want to come up and rock

874
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,119
out a little bit. So I hopeed him each one day.

875
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,360
See you By and I'm like, I cannot fucking believe

876
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,000
I just mass that actually happened. I have it that

877
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:30,480
I actually have you know why. I mean, I'm not

878
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:33,800
I'm not that vain, but it's nineteen ninety like it's

879
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,639
it's nineteen ninety eight, and like you know, I'm still

880
00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:38,519
a young kid, like trying to figure the world out.

881
00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:39,960
I want to be a rock. So you could have

882
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,639
been Tommy Thair. So I've had this discussion with some

883
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,000
close people to me. Here, here's the thing I was.

884
00:43:46,519 --> 00:43:49,199
I'm a I'm a realistic dreamer here right, I'm not.

885
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,840
I'm not delusional. I know I knew back then. I

886
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,960
knew I knew no, but at the time I had

887
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,880
realized they're not going to go on the tour with

888
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,599
a twenty year old kid. Yeah, Tommy had a locked up.

889
00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:04,559
He put the work in, true, there was no getting

890
00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:08,559
around it. There was only if Tommy had an issue

891
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:13,199
maybe yeah, But I had a shoe in at the time,

892
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,079
and it was Eric's singer really well, because I toured

893
00:44:17,079 --> 00:44:20,039
with Alice Cooper, uh with the Jesse camp then, and

894
00:44:20,199 --> 00:44:22,599
oh yeah he was cool. Like one day after the show,

895
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:24,199
you know, all the guys that back there. They're all

896
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,920
rocking out and you know, everybody's partying, and I have

897
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,639
the courage. I like pull out the picture of me

898
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,360
and makeup. Eric's like what, He's like, that's you. I'm

899
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,079
like yeah, he's like what. He grabs it for me

900
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:40,239
and like walks away. I'm like, I don't know what's

901
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,519
going on here anyway. The next couple of days he's like,

902
00:44:42,559 --> 00:44:45,239
come up to soundcheck you, let's go, let's play some kiss.

903
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,440
We did kiss on soundcheck like all the time. And

904
00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:50,119
again I was the kid and all the old the dudes,

905
00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:52,119
you know, the guys. The dudes were like, oh man,

906
00:44:52,159 --> 00:44:54,480
the kid, the kid, because you know, I can get

907
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,519
into the old Jesse camp thing. But you know, it

908
00:44:56,639 --> 00:44:59,280
was like it was I was the exciting one. Jesse wasn't.

909
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:04,079
We'll get into that another day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So

910
00:45:04,639 --> 00:45:07,320
you know, I had dreamed about it, but I had realized,

911
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,400
you know, you Tommy Scott, it locked up. There's nothing

912
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,599
that's gonna happen. I just had hoped maybe, you know,

913
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,360
every years like this is why I've never cut my hair.

914
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,400
That's that's another thing, another reason why I want to stop.

915
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,639
If you can cut your hair. But I want to

916
00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:23,559
be a different version of Keith. This has been Keith

917
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:29,559
since like nineteen ninety five, you know, and I've been

918
00:45:29,679 --> 00:45:32,880
dreaming about kiss. I used to fax letters to Doc

919
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,320
McGee in nineteen ninety seven ninety eight. I used to

920
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,920
call Doc McGee Entertainment, just wring them off the hook.

921
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,480
I used to try everything. I used to try everything

922
00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:45,320
to get to their attention. But I was just I

923
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,360
there's a little bit of humor behind it too with me,

924
00:45:47,519 --> 00:45:50,119
Like I know, I know the realistic part about it. Right,

925
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,719
you gotta try, you know, you never know.

926
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 2: Did you know when they were doing the forum for

927
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,920
Kiss Alive two, they were supposedly recording.

928
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: For sure, right? Do you know who was in Peter's

929
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:09,960
makeup ready to go? I do? Oh, yes, I do.

930
00:46:10,559 --> 00:46:12,280
Bunny Carlos. Wow.

931
00:46:13,039 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: I read that. I read that in an article or

932
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,360
in an interview with him.

933
00:46:17,679 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: Wow.

934
00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:21,599
Speaker 2: And I have never seen that or heard that anywhere else.

935
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,039
I've never heard anybody talk about that. Yeah, it's true,

936
00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:25,760
but it's true.

937
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,199
Speaker 1: It is true. It's true.

938
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: I wonder, I wonder if they made him shave the

939
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,440
mustache they were.

940
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,599
Speaker 1: I mean, no way is Bunny gonna Budge Bunny's gonna

941
00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:37,960
stand on business. But I mean kiss is gonna stand

942
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,800
on business too. Yeah, somebody's gotta win. Peter must. No,

943
00:46:42,199 --> 00:46:45,000
that's too funny though, But imagine being Peter's roady and

944
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,480
then like you're going up today. Yeah you knowed when

945
00:46:48,519 --> 00:46:52,280
that happened. That's amazing, you know, trust me, there were

946
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,920
many times I was standing outside Madison Square Garden waiting

947
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:01,400
to clock, like pulling Nancy Carrigan on ace, because there

948
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,880
were many times I found him. I've there's been many

949
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,079
times I did my work in the ninety five ninety six.

950
00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:11,000
I did a lot a lot of work back then

951
00:47:11,039 --> 00:47:13,679
to keep my eyes on them. You know. I I

952
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,480
was the guy on Q one or four point three.

953
00:47:15,519 --> 00:47:17,360
I would call the radio station and I would use

954
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,039
a different voice and a different name from multiple tickets,

955
00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:21,920
and I got like three pass of tickets out of

956
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,159
one show. I won tickets for like all four nights.

957
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,599
I was crazy back then. I would call Eddie Trunk.

958
00:47:28,679 --> 00:47:31,400
In fact, have you ever heard that call where I

959
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,199
called him to Eddie Trunk and I got him through

960
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,559
through Peter Chris. I was really young. I used to

961
00:47:35,559 --> 00:47:37,480
call Eddie all the time, and I used to play

962
00:47:37,519 --> 00:47:39,320
my demo for him. I used to play I said,

963
00:47:39,559 --> 00:47:41,639
you know, Kiss. When Kiss miss came around, I'd just

964
00:47:41,679 --> 00:47:44,280
be bothering them all the time, calling, calling, calling, And

965
00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:47,320
when Peter Chris got through, I got through to Peter Chris.

966
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,039
That was hilarious because I was like, fuck asking Peter

967
00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:53,480
Chris all the stupid questions that everybody asked Peter Chris. Oh,

968
00:47:53,559 --> 00:47:55,719
this is a dict, but you make um on. I

969
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,440
was like, Peter, you're the fucking best. You are the

970
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,119
fucking voice of Kiss. Don't let anybody tell you fucking anything.

971
00:48:01,199 --> 00:48:03,360
Stand tall, he said, you stand tall, you stay tall.

972
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,039
It was a great little epic episode on Eddie Trunk's show.

973
00:48:07,079 --> 00:48:10,440
You know, does Eddie know that's you? Yes? He yeah, yeah,

974
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,000
he knows. Yeah, that's fucking funny. Yeah, it's pretty well.

975
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:15,039
I get off the topic really fast, but now you're

976
00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:16,960
talking about Kiss. I apologize, but.

977
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: It's good because that's kind of how this show rolled.

978
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,039
Do you see a script in front of me?

979
00:48:22,159 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: No?

980
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 2: Do you see questions in front of me? I occasionally

981
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,639
all have just ship jotted down. Hell no, fuck no, dude,

982
00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:32,079
this is a conversation. Yeah, this is kind of going

983
00:48:32,119 --> 00:48:34,159
all over the place. It's just a microphone in front

984
00:48:34,159 --> 00:48:36,039
of it. It's just a microphone, And I feel safe.

985
00:48:36,199 --> 00:48:41,360
Jesus Christ of goddamn beers and uh no zukrello and

986
00:48:41,599 --> 00:48:48,880
note that says Obdura riculs trance God bless you. You

987
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,280
said that you're gonna be busy next year. Yeah, you

988
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,519
have something else going on? Can we talk about what

989
00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:55,360
else you do?

990
00:48:55,679 --> 00:48:58,519
Speaker 1: Is that? Sure? You work for Twisted Sister? I do?

991
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,519
How did when did you get in? Did how did

992
00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:04,920
the Twist's Sister thing happen? And what do you feel?

993
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,639
Very well? This is fun because it's it's chronologically you

994
00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:10,639
addressed to kill in nineteen ninety seven, hat Jesse Camp

995
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,480
ninety eight, ninety nine, two thousand and boy, that breakup

996
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:17,599
was weird. We'll get to that. I mean, I've yet

997
00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:20,239
to start writing the book, but the breakup in Jesse

998
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,639
Camp is epic. We'll get to that another boy after that.

999
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,199
But but after the break I was kind of bummed.

1000
00:49:28,199 --> 00:49:30,119
There's nothing going on between like two thousand and one

1001
00:49:30,159 --> 00:49:31,920
and yeah. After two thousand and one, it was a

1002
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,639
pretty rough year for everybody. Things kind of calmed down

1003
00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:35,960
in New York City for a while. It was kind

1004
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,760
of awkward. Oh yeah, yeah, nine to eleven, and yeah,

1005
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,559
it was a big blow with kind of for a while.

1006
00:49:41,639 --> 00:49:44,760
But you know, two thousand and three had rolled around

1007
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,280
Ish and my brother was playing for the SMFS at

1008
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,199
the time on bass, and I just you know, I've

1009
00:49:52,199 --> 00:49:54,840
known Danny Stanton for my whole life. I was a

1010
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,360
baby Danny Stanton, books, ste and twisted sister and a

1011
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:59,920
lot of all the rock and rolls, Adam and the Men,

1012
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,760
The Hawk's currently right now, Debbie Gibson, but he's an

1013
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,960
old school rocker. He had a band called Takashi and

1014
00:50:05,079 --> 00:50:09,400
Ninja to the record, Debbie Gibson would totally dig me, totally. Yeah.

1015
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,039
Of course she would make her very jealous. I know

1016
00:50:12,119 --> 00:50:14,480
she would. She would make her very jealous. She would, yes.

1017
00:50:15,679 --> 00:50:18,920
Uh so. Uh. Danny and my brother, you know, always

1018
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,119
kept me around doing stuff. So I was down to

1019
00:50:21,199 --> 00:50:24,920
Virginia just hanging out, just was I wasn't scheduled. I

1020
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,280
was young. It was like twenty four, twenty three. I

1021
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,440
don't even know. Dudes like, uh, move this. I'm like,

1022
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,199
all right, move this, set this up. I'm like all right, sure,

1023
00:50:35,199 --> 00:50:38,719
I don't care. You're hanging around to his sister, do something, yeah,

1024
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,400
stay busy. And then at the end of the week,

1025
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,719
guys like he's like here this many I'm like for what.

1026
00:50:47,519 --> 00:50:50,119
I'm like, He's like, well you worked, right son. I'm like, yeah,

1027
00:50:50,119 --> 00:50:52,199
I worked. He's like, well, you get paid around here.

1028
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,719
I was like, wow, that's the thing you can get

1029
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,000
paid in rock and roll, who get paid to like

1030
00:50:57,199 --> 00:51:00,519
lift gear and hang out. D was really he has

1031
00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:03,840
always been nice, but I specifically remember that trip home.

1032
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,440
He's like, for everybody, you know, a couple of extra

1033
00:51:08,159 --> 00:51:10,199
for the ride home, for the day, you know, for

1034
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,559
the day's pay. I was like, wow, this is amazing,

1035
00:51:13,639 --> 00:51:16,599
you know. And then two thousand and three, two thousand

1036
00:51:16,639 --> 00:51:19,159
and four, I was kind of just hanging around Danny

1037
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:24,639
and like Jimmy, who was a lead guitar tech the

1038
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,360
lead guitar tech for Twisted Sister in that era two

1039
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,239
thousand and three, two thousand and four, two thousand and

1040
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:34,079
five ish, probably even a couple more years. I believe

1041
00:51:34,159 --> 00:51:36,719
he was maybe experiencing some health issues and it was

1042
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,840
a good stand in, you know, get the kid to

1043
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:43,199
lift some shit, you know, tune some guitars, figure it out.

1044
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,400
And then it just started to happen around two thousand

1045
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,119
and five and six, Danny's like, we're going to Bulgaria,

1046
00:51:50,199 --> 00:51:52,480
We're going to Europe, We're going to this. When he's like,

1047
00:51:52,519 --> 00:51:56,679
are you in, I'm like, yes, I'm in, so believe

1048
00:51:56,679 --> 00:51:59,000
it or not. Twisted Sister and Wasp was my first

1049
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,480
two bands that I worked for. Are like, oh wow bands.

1050
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,679
The Wasp Wasp story is fucking hilarious. But we'll talk

1051
00:52:05,679 --> 00:52:08,239
about that another time. So yeah, there will be a

1052
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,159
second episode. Yeah, I mean that is that that involves

1053
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,440
violence and excitement. So yeah, it's it's a it's a

1054
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,920
headline for you, for your for your people of violence,

1055
00:52:18,159 --> 00:52:22,679
excitement and excitement. Uh, you know, and there's been some

1056
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,360
funny shit with like, you know the the The thing

1057
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:30,199
about Twisted Sister is mostly everybody's family always was family,

1058
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,159
you know Danny. Everybody's known Danny since nineteen eighty three,

1059
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,880
nineteen eighty two Dueenne Lozada has been in the mix

1060
00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:39,760
in the crew for since day one. When I say

1061
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,440
day one, I'm talking the two thousand era, you know,

1062
00:52:43,079 --> 00:52:46,599
the eighties. Twisted Sister is a totally different crew, you know,

1063
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:54,880
I mean totally almost different management besides Joe Gerber, but

1064
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,920
the crew is you know, George Marshall was our sound

1065
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:04,679
guy past way a couple of years ago, but Marty

1066
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,920
who passed away a couple of years ago. But we

1067
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,880
also have our overseas crew because we're very active overseas.

1068
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,079
So we have met this from Finland, and we have

1069
00:53:12,159 --> 00:53:14,559
Johnny from Sweden who does lights, and then we have

1070
00:53:14,599 --> 00:53:17,559
a couple other guys that roll with us. But I mean, man,

1071
00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:19,440
we've known each other from day one. You know, we

1072
00:53:19,519 --> 00:53:22,079
are the road crew motorhead kind of vibe. You know. Yeah, yeah,

1073
00:53:22,119 --> 00:53:25,679
it's funny. It's funny all the time. Okay, because back

1074
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,119
ten years ago, you got to remember, so AJ would

1075
00:53:29,199 --> 00:53:31,800
always leave with us in the morning, Okay, when the

1076
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,760
Twisted Sister crew leaves. So a typical Twisted Sister day

1077
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,679
is all right, let's just say, let's start after the gig.

1078
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,480
So the gig's over at one in the morning, you're

1079
00:53:40,519 --> 00:53:43,119
at the hotel by three or four, you're up at six, seven, eight,

1080
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,679
you're on a plane. You show up, you're at the

1081
00:53:45,679 --> 00:53:48,880
festival by about eleven or sometimes even earlier. You're down

1082
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,559
till eleven. Yep. AJ would be with us all the time.

1083
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,280
He never wanted to be at the airport at the hotel,

1084
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,159
he just went to hang. What did it come to

1085
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,119
sound check with us Twisted Sister. Besides, aj Perrow has

1086
00:54:01,199 --> 00:54:03,159
not seen the light of the day with a sound

1087
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,320
check in years. Wow, that was the exciting part for us.

1088
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,840
For me, I get a super adrenaline buzz with the changeover. Okay,

1089
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,280
so if you know about these European festivals, they're thirty

1090
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,280
minute changeovers. Yep. So of course we have, you know,

1091
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,679
rights to the stage all day and you build all

1092
00:54:19,679 --> 00:54:22,519
your shit backstage so everything's ready to go. Your stacks,

1093
00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:25,480
your drums, everything's primed, the strings have changed, everything's going.

1094
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,639
But when that bell hits, there's nothing more exciting than

1095
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,239
putting on a Twist Sister show. Okay, when we do

1096
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,920
it together, it's kind of like, uh, you know, it's

1097
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,599
like a dysfunctional family just kind of taking their pill

1098
00:54:39,599 --> 00:54:41,239
at the last minute and we just kind of it's

1099
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,519
like it's a beautiful piece of puzzle. And then when

1100
00:54:43,519 --> 00:54:46,480
the ACDC song goes off a long way to the top.

1101
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:51,000
It has given us nerve wracking off tour, nerve wrackings

1102
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,719
down supermarkets here in it. It makes our blood pump.

1103
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,599
You know, it's such an exciting six minutes when that

1104
00:54:57,679 --> 00:55:02,000
song is because you see the guys walk up, and

1105
00:55:02,039 --> 00:55:05,280
it's just such a great feeling knowing that the apps

1106
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,800
are ready, the monitors ready, the lights are ready, these

1107
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,039
mic is ready, these rug is ready, everything's ready. Everybody's on.

1108
00:55:11,159 --> 00:55:13,480
Cute eyes on the band and there they are and

1109
00:55:13,519 --> 00:55:16,840
they're just cool and they put the guitars on and

1110
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,639
then it's just a four count and it's it's one

1111
00:55:19,639 --> 00:55:21,360
of the most beautiful things in the world. I get

1112
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,880
such I get such a joy of working with these guys,

1113
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,920
Like I cannot tell you enough how much I love

1114
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,360
those guys. Those guys are my family. And you know,

1115
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,960
we've done a lot of cool shit around the globe.

1116
00:55:35,039 --> 00:55:39,039
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of cool shit, you played with them, Yes,

1117
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,280
you played with them in California.

1118
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: I did. There was some kind of hall.

1119
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 2: Of Fame thing, yeah, heavy metal hall of heavy metal,

1120
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,960
hall of fame, and which which one was not available?

1121
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: Eddie?

1122
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: Eddie was not so you you took his place and

1123
00:55:55,519 --> 00:56:00,199
played as him, yes, or played his is.

1124
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: Spot yes, not as him? As him? Not as him.

1125
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,480
This isn't you being Tommy Dayer right? His makeup correct?

1126
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,280
And that's not a shot that is what it is, right,

1127
00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:14,760
What was when you got that call and said, hey,

1128
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:16,559
you're playing. Yeah?

1129
00:56:17,159 --> 00:56:23,039
Speaker 2: Were you at any point were you ever told know

1130
00:56:23,199 --> 00:56:27,199
the fucking catalog, know both parts? Just in case I've

1131
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:28,480
never told anybody of this.

1132
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: Uh so for your patreons out there, I have been

1133
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,880
told back in the past, just just you know, Look,

1134
00:56:37,079 --> 00:56:39,840
I know everything. I know every Twisted Sister song, like

1135
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,360
I know every Kiss song, you know. But there was

1136
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,400
a time when it was just like you know, you

1137
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,559
know how many times D has had to be rushed

1138
00:56:47,559 --> 00:56:51,239
in by a helicopter because of plans and whatever. These

1139
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:55,079
are the craziest stories. We're talking D like any limousine

1140
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,920
sleeping for like six, seven, eight hours while a guy

1141
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:01,199
ubers him through Europe to get to a show or helicopter.

1142
00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:05,559
You know, there are moments when guys just don't make

1143
00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:09,000
their connection yea, or cannot get out of wherever they are,

1144
00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:11,679
or they're sick or they're sick, or they're sick.

1145
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 2: And listen, look, this is not I mean, this is

1146
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,440
not the seventies or eighties anymore. If it was, if

1147
00:57:17,559 --> 00:57:21,599
the bass player from White Lion, James Lomnzo got sick

1148
00:57:21,679 --> 00:57:26,239
in nineteen eighty nine, White Lion didn't play right. Nowadays,

1149
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,920
people like you that work for the band step in,

1150
00:57:30,519 --> 00:57:31,440
the show goes on.

1151
00:57:31,599 --> 00:57:35,599
Speaker 1: It's like Broadway absolutely, hence just like Kiss Absolutely, the

1152
00:57:35,639 --> 00:57:38,320
show must go on, Show must go on. And Queen Fain,

1153
00:57:39,239 --> 00:57:43,159
you know, they they can trust their people. And there's

1154
00:57:43,199 --> 00:57:45,360
been other guys, you know, I'll you know, you know,

1155
00:57:45,519 --> 00:57:49,199
Dan McCafferty's always been there for Twisted Sister, you know,

1156
00:57:49,679 --> 00:57:52,039
and you know D's traveling with his solo band, which

1157
00:57:52,119 --> 00:57:55,400
was either me, you know, Nick Perry or Nick Nafuzi

1158
00:57:55,599 --> 00:57:57,400
or you played in d solo band. I did. I

1159
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,559
did not know that. Yeah, there was an error. It

1160
00:57:59,559 --> 00:58:01,920
is weird, did wild stuff? I did not know that

1161
00:58:02,159 --> 00:58:11,360
literally well stuff, you know, uh so yeah no. So

1162
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,119
the cool thing is is that, you know, I was

1163
00:58:14,199 --> 00:58:17,920
just how many at some point being behind the amps.

1164
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,239
It's like it's like a linebacker just waiting on the

1165
00:58:20,239 --> 00:58:23,400
third string, just waiting. You know. I'm a huge Twisted

1166
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,000
Sister fan, right, I'm also a guitar player, and I

1167
00:58:26,079 --> 00:58:28,239
also do all the soundchecks every day yeh yeh yeah.

1168
00:58:28,239 --> 00:58:30,400
And I'm the guy that goes out to one hundred

1169
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,239
thousand people and I love to do the first rift

1170
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,280
to the cat scratch Fever for a quick soundcheck. It's

1171
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,280
just especially in South America when that like the place

1172
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,400
just lights up. In Germany, one hundred and ten thousand people,

1173
00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:44,880
you just hit an a card blank and it's just

1174
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:49,800
like it's it's amazing. So it's exciting. I'm also a

1175
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,840
guitar player, and I'm a dreamer as well, you know,

1176
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:57,360
so I get excited. You know, put yourself in a position,

1177
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,599
be ready. You know, luck is an opportunity and hard work,

1178
00:59:01,679 --> 00:59:05,159
you know, absolute truth, and most mostly walk, you know,

1179
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,440
but you know, you know, at the end of the day,

1180
00:59:08,559 --> 00:59:11,119
you want what's best for Twist system, of course, you know.

1181
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,519
But I was working at the office. You know, I

1182
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,599
have a dirty job. I'm a certified forklift driver, but

1183
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,719
I'm an operations manager. I run a very small company,

1184
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,840
Accessibles by the way, and I love that place, you know,

1185
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,920
I love it a lot. It's it's my life outside

1186
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,639
of it. But I'm also a steady musician here in Vegas.

1187
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:35,440
But when it's nine forty five and Danny's phone goes off,

1188
00:59:36,559 --> 00:59:39,800
you know, I could hear Danny's ringer from through cement walls.

1189
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,880
I go run in and grab the phone, and I

1190
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,239
wasn't planning on being there that day, Like I kind

1191
00:59:44,239 --> 00:59:47,840
of needn't even know about it. Yeah, it's like Dwayne

1192
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,199
hit me up. He's like, I'm going to California, Like,

1193
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,159
oh for what. He's like, I'll going to a heavy

1194
00:59:52,199 --> 00:59:54,360
metal Hall of Fame thing. I'm like, oh fuck, I

1195
00:59:54,360 --> 01:00:00,199
didn't even know. Right, Danny's like, you're on a plan

1196
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:05,480
at a tonight. You'll be in La tonight and you'll

1197
01:00:05,679 --> 01:00:08,960
be rehearsing with the band, and you need to you

1198
01:00:09,039 --> 01:00:11,760
need to be you need to be ready, like by

1199
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:18,280
nine o'clock tonight. I'm like, let's go. I was super excited.

1200
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,280
You know, I hadn't played Twist and Sister for god

1201
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,559
knows how many months. I'm sure. I'm sure Twisted Sister

1202
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,440
hadn't played Twist's Sister for how many nights? Right? But uh,

1203
01:00:27,079 --> 01:00:29,840
you know, Uh, the first thing I did was call Eddie.

1204
01:00:30,119 --> 01:00:32,280
You know, I'm I can be close with Eddie. You know,

1205
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,360
I don't bother him or anything like that, but he

1206
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,239
is a friend, you know. And I called him and

1207
01:00:36,239 --> 01:00:38,440
I just said, listen, you know, first off, I'm sorry

1208
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,199
you're sick. I hate that you have to miss this,

1209
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,320
but I have your best intentions, you know, and I will.

1210
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,639
I will put you first, of course, and I will

1211
01:00:46,639 --> 01:00:50,000
do you good, you know. And it was exciting getting

1212
01:00:50,039 --> 01:00:52,159
to the studio. You know, it was last minute. You know.

1213
01:00:52,199 --> 01:00:54,599
The guitar is not perfect, the amp's not perfect, everything's

1214
01:00:54,639 --> 01:00:58,000
not perfect. It's like, you know, here's your big moment

1215
01:00:58,239 --> 01:01:00,760
like this, you know, as the oh CD guy, I'm

1216
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,559
trying to be like perfect and it's just a little shy.

1217
01:01:03,719 --> 01:01:05,480
Rock and roll is not supposed to be perfect, my friend.

1218
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,960
But uh, you know, there it is lo and behold

1219
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:13,400
there there's the night sleep on it and you show

1220
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,159
up and the guys do their thing, and I blink

1221
01:01:16,159 --> 01:01:18,199
and there it is happening. And I'll tell you one thing.

1222
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,679
I knew that that solo was coming up. We're not

1223
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,960
going to take it. And I said, Keith, listen, this

1224
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:26,880
is going to be on the internet for the rest

1225
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,199
of your life. Yeah, you can't fuck this up, right,

1226
01:01:30,239 --> 01:01:32,519
So don't funk it out, don't funk up. Don't funk up,

1227
01:01:32,599 --> 01:01:35,440
you know, which also brings us back to the press

1228
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,280
because that was the owner's thing. Okay, Tommy, what the fuck?

1229
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:42,159
Don't fuck up that's insanity. Anyways. It was just it

1230
01:01:42,199 --> 01:01:45,400
was just I was just glad I hit it was

1231
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,960
that in costume or No. Everybody was just a street close.

1232
01:01:49,079 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, all right, but you so when

1233
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,239
did you First of all, did you ever think Twisted

1234
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:56,440
would play again?

1235
01:01:56,719 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: No?

1236
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,159
Speaker 2: Ever, you really thought that this was out of the blue.

1237
01:02:01,239 --> 01:02:04,280
This was you got the call when everybody else has

1238
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:04,840
got the call?

1239
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: Are you talking? Oh you're talking about now? Oh no,

1240
01:02:09,239 --> 01:02:13,800
I'm pretty I was fairly convinced this would never happen.

1241
01:02:14,559 --> 01:02:22,840
I knew about last year's offer, but they were cold stone,

1242
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,559
cold stone. No, that was it, and I was like,

1243
01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:28,639
I didn't say anything. I went to dinner, I went

1244
01:02:28,639 --> 01:02:30,639
to go see Wrangle Star with JJ, talked to him

1245
01:02:30,679 --> 01:02:33,960
about it. He's like, just not the right time, you know.

1246
01:02:34,519 --> 01:02:36,599
I was like, what do you mean, not the right time? Ah?

1247
01:02:37,119 --> 01:02:42,760
Got you? Yeah? Right, And then you know, the whispers

1248
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,880
and the whispers, and they got louder and louder, and

1249
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,199
the text text messages started coming in. I was like,

1250
01:02:47,599 --> 01:02:50,440
this is cool. You know, it's exciting for us because

1251
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:54,760
you know, it's like it's weird because it's almost spinal tavish, right,

1252
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,679
It's like we haven't been touring, we haven't been working,

1253
01:02:57,719 --> 01:03:00,360
we haven't been doing anything. And it's like, in six

1254
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,039
months we have to be like proof, like parachute right

1255
01:03:03,039 --> 01:03:05,400
into rock and roll and be ready for it and

1256
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:09,559
make it work. And it's pretty exciting, you know, knowing

1257
01:03:09,599 --> 01:03:11,519
that they're gonna come out rock out, which you know

1258
01:03:11,559 --> 01:03:13,599
at this point, it's like, why not just everybody just

1259
01:03:13,599 --> 01:03:18,199
stop retiring, speaking what you want, speaking of, speaking of

1260
01:03:19,039 --> 01:03:22,280
talk my own ship, right, stop retiring. Right, That's another

1261
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:23,920
thing I go through that every day I'm walking around

1262
01:03:24,119 --> 01:03:27,159
at the work. I'm going stop retiring, stop calling, stop

1263
01:03:27,199 --> 01:03:29,280
saying it's just never retired, just rock and roll. But

1264
01:03:29,679 --> 01:03:31,679
to give stuff it's different. You know, you gotta look,

1265
01:03:32,199 --> 01:03:33,840
you got you gotta be rock and roll. You gotta

1266
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,800
have a certain fit, you gotta have see. And that's

1267
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:39,039
the thing with with act is different. Yeah, that it's different.

1268
01:03:39,039 --> 01:03:42,840
You're right, You're right different. I I'm not it's gonna

1269
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,199
be it's it's not gonna be easy to say goodbye

1270
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,599
to all that I know. And look, it's like the

1271
01:03:47,679 --> 01:03:48,440
makeup and everything.

1272
01:03:48,599 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 2: The single time I get offered a gig, I'm going

1273
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,719
to ask you and I appreciate that I still I

1274
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,400
love that and one of those times you say, fuck it,

1275
01:03:56,519 --> 01:03:59,159
I need let's go have some fun. Yeah, which the

1276
01:03:59,239 --> 01:04:01,679
last two shows that you put on were some of

1277
01:04:01,719 --> 01:04:03,840
the most fun in the world, really, some of the

1278
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,920
most fun. It's fun to play some great different songs, Yeah,

1279
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,239
different stuff. Yeah, well just wait till we do fucking

1280
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,559
almost half of the trouble Walking record.

1281
01:04:13,559 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: Oh god, that's a tough album. That to me. So

1282
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,360
I'm like, you know, outside of Kiss and Zeppa and

1283
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,760
everything like that, of course, I love Thunders, you know,

1284
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,440
the Heartbreakers and shit like that. I've always thought La

1285
01:04:24,599 --> 01:04:28,400
MF was like the best rock and roll album ever,

1286
01:04:28,599 --> 01:04:31,000
like one of the most streets rock and roll album

1287
01:04:31,159 --> 01:04:37,320
Jerry Nolan Thunders, you know. But Ace's trouble Walking album

1288
01:04:37,599 --> 01:04:42,599
is legitimately one of the best soundings sonically well put together,

1289
01:04:42,719 --> 01:04:47,719
well written, well orchestrayed, well arranged, rock and roll, sonic

1290
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:52,079
guitars between Richie and Ace. Yeah, I can never say

1291
01:04:52,519 --> 01:04:54,800
I've listened to it to so much. I don't even

1292
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,760
listen to it anymore, of course, right, you know, but

1293
01:04:57,079 --> 01:05:00,599
when I put it on, I'm just like they're soloing

1294
01:05:01,119 --> 01:05:04,760
is is It's almost impossible to get that right. Yeah,

1295
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:05,920
I could never.

1296
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:11,239
Speaker 2: Like you know, we do five card stud Ace Ace

1297
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:12,559
is on the verge of Shreddinger.

1298
01:05:13,679 --> 01:05:16,639
Speaker 1: It is the I mean Ace was epic in eighty

1299
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:21,840
eighty one, eighty two, seventy five out four, but he

1300
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:26,519
is on a different plane and trouble walking. You know,

1301
01:05:26,639 --> 01:05:30,719
he looks great, so rock and roll between him and

1302
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:35,760
Richie with that tonal thing going on. I mean I

1303
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:39,000
saw a lot of A shows as a kid. I

1304
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:42,719
bet you I was. I was the kid with soccer

1305
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:47,159
shorts on and a soccer haircut, snuck in with notes

1306
01:05:47,199 --> 01:05:49,480
to the club owners for my parents to get in.

1307
01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:54,760
And Richie used to just throw tons of picks at

1308
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,119
me and towels and used to just take care of

1309
01:05:57,119 --> 01:06:01,519
me all the time. And it was just like seeing

1310
01:06:01,639 --> 01:06:05,239
as many A shows as at at the Roxy, I

1311
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,760
forget his name, Frank carry Ol or Frank carry All

1312
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:12,400
is Roxy out Huntington, Long Island. That was epic, man,

1313
01:06:12,519 --> 01:06:15,320
those A shows. But I can't say enough about that.

1314
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,519
It's almost like a lot of kiss guys. Yeah, sure

1315
01:06:18,519 --> 01:06:19,760
you can do the kit, you can do the A

1316
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,239
stuff and kiss, but boy, it's tough. It's hard to

1317
01:06:22,239 --> 01:06:26,199
replicate that stuff. It's almost impossible. It is, yeah, it is,

1318
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,199
but it's so fun trying. It's great.

1319
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,559
Speaker 2: It's just it's because it's it's about the song.

1320
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: It's about the fucking music. It's it's about the jacket,

1321
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:40,280
and it's about the guitar. It's about the red cowboy

1322
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:45,639
boots with black and white tights and a weird, you know,

1323
01:06:46,039 --> 01:06:49,199
fringe jacket. You know, he made it work all so

1324
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:50,599
well with all those errors.

1325
01:06:50,599 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 2: You know, if you get what we did, vamped and

1326
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,519
Todd played with us. Shout out to Todd, Todd Harworth,

1327
01:06:58,599 --> 01:07:01,760
fucking just a bleeththeart of a human being.

1328
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: I fucking love Todd to death. Actually I just talked

1329
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:09,239
to him, like yesterday today, so he probably did he

1330
01:07:09,679 --> 01:07:12,000
tell you what we talked about. I'm assuming no. I

1331
01:07:12,039 --> 01:07:12,239
did not.

1332
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I did not ask, okay, well, I'm assuming he

1333
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:15,199
might have.

1334
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: Just no, no, no, he did say, okay, well, it's there's

1335
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,320
something I was gonna tell you about. Okay, well we'll

1336
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:24,119
tell you off okay, yeah, off the air. But I'm

1337
01:07:24,119 --> 01:07:26,880
wearing those tights with the cowboy boots, old rum and

1338
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,039
the jacket, and I look at Eddie Trunk, who signed Ace.

1339
01:07:30,159 --> 01:07:35,559
I go who told this was a good look. He

1340
01:07:35,639 --> 01:07:39,119
did it so well, he got away with it so well,

1341
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,599
you know, I know, but let's bring this back around.

1342
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:43,800
Sorry I get off topic.

1343
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,639
Speaker 2: Oh no, but this is this, This is almost on

1344
01:07:46,679 --> 01:07:51,559
that topic. You got to play with the comment. Oh yeah,

1345
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:56,280
you did. You were ace in the comet.

1346
01:07:56,559 --> 01:07:59,519
Speaker 1: So when Todd told me about that first. You know,

1347
01:07:59,719 --> 01:08:02,639
I have appreciate Todd including me. It's it's not easy

1348
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,519
again I have you know again, you know a lot

1349
01:08:06,559 --> 01:08:10,559
of these things that I do, my couple moments of

1350
01:08:10,719 --> 01:08:14,360
like big like wows, they're all like on the spot,

1351
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:16,800
you know, And I never got to get the right

1352
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,800
app and the right sound right there. Y, you know,

1353
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:20,960
I have my things about it.

1354
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 2: But speaking of the right app, wait until you hear

1355
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,800
the new beater that's coming Beater application dot com. It's

1356
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,279
too he's beeter implication dot com.

1357
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 1: I knew my new head that's coming. Really he's gonna blow.

1358
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 2: And it's hand wired, handbuilt, one testicular.

1359
01:08:37,039 --> 01:08:40,239
Speaker 1: For watts tubes, you know, messing around with that fifty

1360
01:08:40,239 --> 01:08:42,479
wad or that twenty watch shair. How much it weighs,

1361
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:47,880
I'm gonna say probably twenty nine pounds eight pounds eight stop.

1362
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,640
I would never will it. Will it make the fall

1363
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:54,720
off the casino?

1364
01:08:55,279 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 2: I don't know about that, but yeah, he said it

1365
01:08:58,520 --> 01:08:59,600
weighs eight pounds.

1366
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 1: Old.

1367
01:09:01,399 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 2: Wow, that that gave me a boner right now. Yeah,

1368
01:09:05,399 --> 01:09:07,439
the other beater, it sounds great, but I think the

1369
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:08,520
fucking beast.

1370
01:09:10,119 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: Push you need like an extra trailer to lug it

1371
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,359
around you. Well, there's that. There's that.

1372
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 2: So all right, so you I didn't mean to interrupt.

1373
01:09:18,039 --> 01:09:22,159
Speaker 1: You, but I I heard the show spot to throw it. Yes,

1374
01:09:22,399 --> 01:09:24,880
of course. Well I wasn't happy with my amp, so

1375
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:28,479
get a beater and you'll be happy with Keith has

1376
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,720
heard it. I should have just used that one that day,

1377
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,760
but I didn't. Todd asked me to do it, and

1378
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:38,720
I was like, wow, this is crazy. Now. At first

1379
01:09:39,119 --> 01:09:48,119
it was with John, yeah, and Anton, and I knew

1380
01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:51,039
that John had his doctor had told him he doesn't

1381
01:09:51,039 --> 01:09:53,600
want him traveling, you know. I was like, oh, you know,

1382
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:55,399
at first I was a little bummed. You know, of

1383
01:09:55,399 --> 01:10:00,479
course you were, you know, but uh, give me up

1384
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:04,159
drawing a blank right now? Who filled? And my buddy,

1385
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,159
I'm just drawing a blank right now. I haven't had

1386
01:10:07,159 --> 01:10:11,079
a drink in a long time. When we got to rehearsal.

1387
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,720
The first time I played, I played with Todd before

1388
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:18,399
and like, Todd is just sonically great. Yeah, there's like

1389
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,840
no bad notes and there's all this great singing and

1390
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,800
I'm like it's it's like, wow, this is cool, right.

1391
01:10:25,399 --> 01:10:30,399
And then the first time Anton Fake hit his bass drum.

1392
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:34,399
I mean I imagine us as a kid listening to

1393
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,359
the solo album All of Our Lives, Yeah, and knowing

1394
01:10:37,399 --> 01:10:39,720
Anton Fake for all that great shit that he did.

1395
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,039
And the first time in the studio he hit the

1396
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:45,039
double bass.

1397
01:10:45,239 --> 01:10:49,039
Speaker 3: And it went threw me like a shotgun, like a

1398
01:10:49,079 --> 01:10:52,960
bear roar like who It was powerful, And I was like,

1399
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:55,840
fuck is that?

1400
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 2: It's so funny because people always talked about guitar players

1401
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,279
and how it's all in the hands, right, drummers, it's

1402
01:11:05,319 --> 01:11:08,479
the same thing, the hands in the feet. Yeah, it's

1403
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:12,199
like you, anybody can play a fucking drum, but what

1404
01:11:12,319 --> 01:11:16,880
a feel. It's the feel it Peter and fucking Steven Adler.

1405
01:11:17,079 --> 01:11:19,600
Nobody can play play their ship like that. Nobody sounds

1406
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:20,680
like that. Aways continue.

1407
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:24,239
Speaker 1: It was just it was a really great experience. Who's

1408
01:11:24,279 --> 01:11:28,680
the bass player for uh? Wasn't Sean McNabb No, it

1409
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,520
wasn't Sean McNabb. I'm so embarrassed. I'm trying to remember.

1410
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:38,159
Uh oh god, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I apologize.

1411
01:11:38,159 --> 01:11:40,199
I'm just strong and playing. No, no, no, it happened.

1412
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:45,119
It was a long time ago. Uh, it was. It

1413
01:11:45,199 --> 01:11:48,359
was a really great experience because I knew at this point,

1414
01:11:48,399 --> 01:11:51,319
I get to play for Kiss fans, you know, yeah, wow,

1415
01:11:51,359 --> 01:11:55,920
you get to finally play for people who know the song, right.

1416
01:11:55,960 --> 01:12:00,560
And then, uh, when I started playing this song and

1417
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,079
everything like that, I would look at people's expressions on

1418
01:12:03,119 --> 01:12:06,640
their face, like DJ Noise, Yeah, Like I'd see him

1419
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,960
in the crowd, he'd be like, oh, that's that's the

1420
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,359
solo off the album, you know, like I don't I

1421
01:12:11,359 --> 01:12:14,279
don't deviate. I play the ship off the album, you know.

1422
01:12:15,079 --> 01:12:16,720
And it was cool. I could see people in the

1423
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,000
crowd be like, wow, this sounds good, you know, and

1424
01:12:19,039 --> 01:12:21,359
shots and everybody and everybody like that. They were all

1425
01:12:22,119 --> 01:12:25,119
they were all like, you know, they dug it. It

1426
01:12:25,239 --> 01:12:27,520
was like it it was cool. It was it was ace.

1427
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,079
You know. I tried. I tried to be as ace

1428
01:12:29,119 --> 01:12:32,079
as possible, you know, as well you should, yeah, you know,

1429
01:12:32,279 --> 01:12:37,319
just turning around and seeing Todd and Anton I was

1430
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:40,239
it was surreal, you know, and just playing through a

1431
01:12:40,279 --> 01:12:42,760
kiss crowd and everybody was really receptive and it was

1432
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:47,000
it was fun to play those great songs, and uh,

1433
01:12:47,199 --> 01:12:50,199
you know, I consider Todd a friend now, you know,

1434
01:12:50,319 --> 01:12:53,039
I know, it wasn't that weird. I'm still at that point.

1435
01:12:53,079 --> 01:12:55,439
I was still to this day, I'm still removed from

1436
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:57,560
Anton fake. You know, he's not He's not my friend,

1437
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:02,760
you know, right, But I turn around and holy shit, Yeah,

1438
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:05,279
what I thought was cool is because you're like, you know,

1439
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,239
you know, Anton's a busy guy. You know, he's like,

1440
01:13:10,279 --> 01:13:12,000
he doesn't have to be here, but he was like

1441
01:13:12,399 --> 01:13:14,279
it all worked out and it was it was really

1442
01:13:14,399 --> 01:13:15,920
nice that he did it, you know, and I know

1443
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:17,640
that he didn't have to be there. I'm pretty sure

1444
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,640
maybe he's like, oh, you know, another kiss thing, you

1445
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:24,159
know whatever, but it was cool. After the set, it

1446
01:13:24,319 --> 01:13:28,760
was really cool, He's like, that was great. We should

1447
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,720
do it again. And I was like Anton fake, you know,

1448
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,720
because like like like pretty show. I was like, I

1449
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:36,880
wasn't nervous at all, but I was like all you know,

1450
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:41,079
I was dressed up and you know, uh, everybody was

1451
01:13:41,079 --> 01:13:44,399
there Anton's just you know, Anton, he's just like chill.

1452
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:46,560
He's just he's just like a sweet little guy. And

1453
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,279
it's just like sitting there, you know, before the calm,

1454
01:13:48,279 --> 01:13:50,439
before the storm, he was like, he's not getting ruckus,

1455
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:54,079
he's not getting drunk. You know, he's not getting nuts,

1456
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,399
you know. But I got to just sit with him.

1457
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:01,000
And there's a really great photo. Fucking Ward exactly please,

1458
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:05,359
but oh my god, there's a really great picture. I

1459
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,680
will cherish forever. It's just like I looked up and

1460
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:09,640
it's like me and Anton and just like, you know,

1461
01:14:11,039 --> 01:14:13,560
it's like it's great, you know, and you got to

1462
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,600
play with him, you know, him and Todd. And you know,

1463
01:14:17,279 --> 01:14:21,000
was that before or after four My Feet? Well after

1464
01:14:21,239 --> 01:14:23,800
it was, yeah, he was okay this there's been a

1465
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:28,319
you know, Todd to play with multiple very talented guitar players. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1466
01:14:28,319 --> 01:14:31,279
because I just did. I had no business being on

1467
01:14:31,279 --> 01:14:34,079
this stage with these guys, to be honest with you,

1468
01:14:34,079 --> 01:14:37,239
you know, So it was you know, it was great.

1469
01:14:37,239 --> 01:14:39,000
It was nice to be a part of it. Anything

1470
01:14:39,039 --> 01:14:42,399
that Todd does, you know, Oh yeah, he's graced us

1471
01:14:42,399 --> 01:14:45,000
many times out here in Vegas. Taken a long track

1472
01:14:45,079 --> 01:14:47,199
to be a part of this night and at his

1473
01:14:47,359 --> 01:14:49,800
fucking car broke down the last time he came up

1474
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,880
to do it, and no complaints, right smiles. He's got

1475
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:57,399
that California very chill. Nothing's gonna bother me today. Mean, well,

1476
01:14:57,399 --> 01:15:01,560
I'll be cursing as fuck, dude. All right, let's do this.

1477
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,960
So if you did sign up for the Patreon or

1478
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:11,159
if you were going to there, you go, you uh

1479
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,159
let any set of chips, but you have to say

1480
01:15:14,159 --> 01:15:17,159
that you signed up because of this episode. There is

1481
01:15:17,199 --> 01:15:20,239
no cash value of this from Vegas, absolutely not. It's

1482
01:15:20,279 --> 01:15:22,760
just a nice little collector. Is that much like my

1483
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,119
wallet for me to you? All right? Exactly? You know

1484
01:15:25,159 --> 01:15:28,159
I've noticed that by myself too, And I'll be throwing

1485
01:15:28,199 --> 01:15:30,640
out a couple during the show, you know. By the way,

1486
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,960
going back to the show November thirteenth, you know, I'm

1487
01:15:34,039 --> 01:15:36,880
very very excited about this dive box. It's on Maryland

1488
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:42,319
dive thank you, we need that information. Yeah, dive bar, Maryland.

1489
01:15:42,359 --> 01:15:45,319
And it's not that far from the hotel, not that

1490
01:15:45,399 --> 01:15:51,359
far from the Virgin Okay. I would walk it. As

1491
01:15:51,399 --> 01:15:54,159
someone has said, it was off the beaten path, off.

1492
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,039
Speaker 2: The beaten path, but I would walk it. But it's

1493
01:15:56,039 --> 01:15:58,079
not that far. It's not that far. It's not that far.

1494
01:15:58,119 --> 01:15:59,760
It's not far at all. It's a quick uber.

1495
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 1: It's maybe I would do it's super close, all right,

1496
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,520
It's gonna be a lot of fun. Dive Bar is

1497
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:10,239
an epic, epic rock world in Las Vegas. And if

1498
01:16:10,239 --> 01:16:12,319
you if you come to Vegas, you gotta have some

1499
01:16:12,359 --> 01:16:14,159
fun in Vagas exactly. And you know what I love

1500
01:16:14,159 --> 01:16:17,399
about Dive Bar? What's up? Smoke? You can smoke in

1501
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,640
the dive Bar? Pretty wild? Yeah, is fucking rock and roll.

1502
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:22,560
That is pretty rock and roll. And they will be

1503
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:28,520
smoking of many sorts. Oh yes, both guitar and physically

1504
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:32,439
smoking going on there. For me, I'm really excited about this.

1505
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,520
We have a lot of cool things. All of our

1506
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:38,279
VIP tables sold out thirty minutes and you guys, did

1507
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,680
you There's gonna be somebody sitting on stage. This is

1508
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,600
so cool. So first off, I felt like, remember when

1509
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,880
Kiss played Detroit and the Tiger Stadium, they sold it

1510
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,840
out like thirteen seconds. Yeah, right, and Peter and Gin

1511
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,399
are on the phone giggling like little school boys. It

1512
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,039
was like seven fifteen in the morning and everything was

1513
01:16:56,079 --> 01:16:58,279
sold out and I was like, oh, the tables were

1514
01:16:58,279 --> 01:17:00,720
sold out. Yeah, and I'm like, this is cool, you know.

1515
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:02,239
And we have a lot of friends, a lot of family,

1516
01:17:02,279 --> 01:17:04,319
a lot of people from all over you know, people

1517
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:09,239
you know coming in from the Kiss World, the Kiss Army.

1518
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:13,000
We also decided because the way the dive bars laid out,

1519
01:17:13,039 --> 01:17:14,840
which I'm sure you can you know, this kind of

1520
01:17:15,039 --> 01:17:18,520
weird extension on the stage, it's yeah, kind of does

1521
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,359
it almost different from when I played there right right.

1522
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 2: I was the sixteen, my very first gig in Vegas

1523
01:17:24,119 --> 01:17:26,479
with Act twenty sixteen at the die Bar.

1524
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,039
Speaker 1: With Chad Stewart. Was supposed to play drums.

1525
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 2: Faster's bus got stuck on the fifteen there was a

1526
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:39,960
fire that lost over the fifteen God so Zach Throne

1527
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:45,479
played drums amazing. What can't he play exactly?

1528
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 1: This is a xiophone.

1529
01:17:47,399 --> 01:17:51,239
Speaker 2: He learned the set that day. It was fucking great.

1530
01:17:51,319 --> 01:17:55,159
Figured dive bars phenomenal. I fucking dive bar is super cool,

1531
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:56,640
you know. And I got to give a lot of

1532
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:58,800
credit to Patrick vid Glely. I know he said something

1533
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,199
about this night and I'll get into something real quick,

1534
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:01,760
you know.

1535
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 1: He goes, you know, you remember the smoking section in high school.

1536
01:18:06,319 --> 01:18:08,640
That's kind of like who we are that night, And

1537
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:13,199
I'm like, yeah, we're the smoking section at high school. Now.

1538
01:18:13,319 --> 01:18:17,119
Now listen, you know, I'm getting older and I've been

1539
01:18:17,159 --> 01:18:19,600
a little bit more opinion I've always been opinionated, but

1540
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:21,760
you know, getting older and I'm getting cranky, you know.

1541
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,279
But like, look, you know, I know that there's a

1542
01:18:24,279 --> 01:18:27,000
lot going on that night on February, sorry February, on

1543
01:18:27,039 --> 01:18:29,199
November thirteenth. I know that there's a lot going on

1544
01:18:29,199 --> 01:18:32,479
that night, and I want everybody to have fun. I

1545
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,760
want everybody to have all your kiss fun possible. If

1546
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:39,399
there's something else going on that night, enjoy it. But

1547
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,119
you know what, this is going to be a very

1548
01:18:42,119 --> 01:18:44,640
special night, and it's going to be a very big

1549
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:49,199
celebration for the hardcore kiss Army, and you know, we're

1550
01:18:49,199 --> 01:18:51,319
going to make it a nice, swift, easy night. It's

1551
01:18:51,359 --> 01:18:53,079
going to go on as scheduled. There's going to be

1552
01:18:53,079 --> 01:18:55,000
plenty of time to get back to other places and

1553
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,279
do shit. But you know what, it's a very special

1554
01:18:58,359 --> 01:19:01,880
night for everybody. You know, all our friends there is.

1555
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,319
He's gonna be hosted a night. DJ Noise is gonna

1556
01:19:04,319 --> 01:19:06,800
be spinning the bones is gonna be rocking, and One

1557
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:08,560
Last Kiss is going to be rocking that night. And

1558
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,279
we have a really great set and we're not gonna

1559
01:19:11,279 --> 01:19:14,199
do your normal boring set. Okay, so you're not gonna

1560
01:19:14,239 --> 01:19:15,560
do the end of the Road set. We're not gonna

1561
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,239
do the end of the Road set, but we are

1562
01:19:17,279 --> 01:19:22,960
gonna throw in some really cool, really cool b sides. Okay. Now,

1563
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,359
the couch, getting back to the couch dreamer as we

1564
01:19:26,359 --> 01:19:29,520
call him here in Vegas, Alfonso, he who was the

1565
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:31,479
highest bidder for the couch. I thought it would be

1566
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,680
a fucking cool idea throw a couch for the coolest

1567
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:37,960
Kiss Army guy, and of course he got it. And

1568
01:19:38,319 --> 01:19:39,800
you know, we just want to have a lot of

1569
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:41,439
fun and we're just gonna have a lot of like

1570
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,399
spirit there and just to have somebody there enjoy that

1571
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,960
aspect of being on stage with the Kiss band, being

1572
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:50,840
really in the thick of it. You know. So, VIP

1573
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:54,680
tables are out, the couch is sold out, A couple

1574
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,840
of tickets are left. I want all of my industry

1575
01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:59,960
people to show up and have some fun. All our friends,

1576
01:20:00,119 --> 01:20:01,520
we want them to come down and just have a

1577
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,760
great time. And it's just gonna be bitching. Man. It's

1578
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,600
a hardcore Kiss Army party to Casablanca. It's the spirit

1579
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:11,039
of nineteen seventy five and it's so hardcore that Tom

1580
01:20:11,079 --> 01:20:14,199
and Zeus from showed out Loud Casts are damn they're

1581
01:20:14,239 --> 01:20:16,479
already on the list for the IPEA. They were the

1582
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:18,479
first people on the list. Thank you for coming, by

1583
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,920
the way, so once again out. Yeah. You know you

1584
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,319
could see all this stuff on the event. You know,

1585
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:29,640
Kiss Tribute USA, Facebook dot com, Kiss Tribute USA. You'll

1586
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,159
see the event. I'm sure you know people who know

1587
01:20:32,239 --> 01:20:35,199
all about it. You know we're excited. Dot fucking store. No,

1588
01:20:35,359 --> 01:20:37,920
it's gonna be a great rock and roll show. I'm

1589
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,199
gonna you know, gonna have the guitar. You know it's

1590
01:20:40,239 --> 01:20:42,520
gonna be great. I have a bunch of guitars doing

1591
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:47,880
special things. Yes, well last Kiss it's I think people

1592
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,119
should come out and check this out. It's it's it's

1593
01:20:50,159 --> 01:20:52,119
a special band, trust me, take my word, all.

1594
01:20:52,039 --> 01:20:55,399
Speaker 2: Right, and I can fucking attest to that. Ladies and gentlemen.

1595
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:58,800
Keith Robert Ward, let me hit the ultro music here.

1596
01:20:59,079 --> 01:21:01,600
Speaker 1: You can find him. Where Where can they find you?

1597
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:03,319
If they want to find you? Least book dot com,

1598
01:21:03,399 --> 01:21:05,840
Keith Robert Warre. There you go. You know that's easy.

1599
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,479
Give it up for Ezzy Price and Rock and Roll

1600
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:12,199
Keith Roll, Keith on Instagram and n not A and

1601
01:21:12,279 --> 01:21:14,520
d Rock the Letter n Roll Keith Rock.

1602
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,359
Speaker 2: And this is your first time checking out another podcast

1603
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:19,359
Patreon dot com slash Real Lizzy Presidy.

1604
01:21:19,399 --> 01:21:21,119
Speaker 1: It's only five dollars a month, that's all.

1605
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 2: And I know this version real right, Oh no, no,

1606
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,039
this is fucking Detroit and animalized.

1607
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Speaker 1: Oh animalized okay, animalized live on sense Okay, you got me,

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you got me? Oh yeah, oh on censored okay, very good.

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A great to his ship. I've been using this for

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thirteen years as the ultro of the show. And November

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fourth will actually we'll be the well will be the

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start of the thirteenth year November Friend.

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Speaker 2: My very first Hall of Fame edition. I am inducting

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six people into the.

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I'm stealing your your idea there, showed out loldcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but it'll fucking work. Give it up for

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as Izzy Presley. Everybody, this is a rock star. Thank

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you what you do for rock and roll. In the

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unity of rock and roll, let me be part of it.

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You're thankies and gentlemen on behalf of Keith Robert Wore.

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My name is Izzie Presley and don't forget what I

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lack in talent.

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Speaker 2: You know what I do, chips, I make up for

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it at the cock Woo wh