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your support. As I said last hour, I am being
asked to believe the Bidens when they tell me something
about Joe Biden's health, and I do not believe them.
I cannot believe them. So that's the position that I
am put in, that we are all put in. And
there are a lot of Democrats now that are going
to say, and I already gave you two different quotes
that are like, move on, he's out of office. Here
you go, I got a here's a tweet the original
nice guy. Have you considered leaving him alone? He doesn't
have a lot of life left. Maybe you should read
my article on I'm not going to read your article
on LinkedIn, but yeah, just just go let him go
away and he's dealing with cancer now and just everybody
move on. And no, I'm not going to stop talking
about the biggest political scandal in my lifetime that unfolded
in plain view for everybody to see. And now this
only adds another layer into it. And I'm not going
to take the Biden's word at when the diagnosis occurred,
because I don't believe them because of all of their
all of their past experience and the people that have
been around Joe Biden kept a lot of this stuff
seeking from the wheelchair, right, they were like, well, we're
gonna have to put them in a wheelchair, but don't
do it. Before the election, they were invested in in
throne sniffing, that's what they were, right, They had power.
They were not elected, but they had the power and
they were making trillions of dollars worth of decisions. They
opened our borders to ten million illegal aliens. Yes, I'm
going to keep talking about it because I demand accountability
for whoever the hell it was that was running the
country for the last four years and everybody around them
that knew and lied in order to protect their power
to continue with their governing. And I find the timing
of the announcement to be suspicious, I do. I am skeptical.
I am skeptical that just as the her audio tapes
get released, just as the book is about to be
published by Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson, I'm supposed to
believe that it's just coincidental that the Sunday before the
publication of the book and the Sunday after the Friday
publication of some of her audio from the deposition, I'm
supposed to believe that that's just purely coincidental. And then
the calls for everybody to mute the conversation a little bit,
give the family some time and all of this to
just stop talking about the biggest scandal that's now starting
to be exposed. And by the way, Democrats need the
Democrats need this to go away. This is not good
for them. Let me go over and get a phone call.
Here's Jeff. Hello, Jeff, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Hi, feed the Happy Monday to you. Yes, sir, you too, Yeah,
thanks for taking my call. You know comment I wanted
to make is, you know, the the conservatives are so
easily duped by anything that comes out of the Biden mouthpiece.
You know, the first thing is you've got the sympathy
ploy going on here, which, yeah, I don't want anybody
to cancer, but typically prostate cancer is slow moving. By
the time that it gets to the reported g score
that they have of nine point nine or whatever, it's
advanced and it's rapid because it's gone too far.
Speaker 1: Well, but I've had we had a caller, we had
a caller in the first hour who said that it
can do that. And I've got another email from from
a listener and the same thing happened to her husband.
So four or five months.
Speaker 2: Well then okay, well then that's easy. Let's see the
PSA results from the last Yes, my theory is that
there weren't any physical exams. The doctor would visit the
White House but not do anything because you know, ask
me no questions and I'll tell you no lies.
Speaker 1: Well, he could still do I mean, he could do
the exams. But he was a he was a family friend.
I think I'm trying to remember. There was something about
I don't know if he was a big donor or something,
but he he was. He was like in the Biden orbit.
He was one of theirs, and so he could protect
any secrets under privilege, right so he didn't have to
divulge anything without lying, Like he could just not he
could just not say stuff. But I don't believe the
doctor's assessments when he came out and said, oh, he's
perfectly fit and all this, but he would refuse to
order the cognitive tests. He probably didn't need anything.
Speaker 2: Again, every time, every time a man of his age,
you understand this, they do a PSA test that's the
first indicator of PROS take answer and it shows up
well before the digital exam reveals anything.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what the caller in the first hour, who
is a physician, and he said that he has been
diagnosed with this very same type of cancer that has
also metastasized into his bones. And he said that's the
that he had gotten. He's gotten exams every year and
there was no problem. And then like halfway through the
next year, he gets diagnosed with the with the cancer
and had already gone to the bones. So according to him,
it can happen that quickly. The vast majority of prostate
cancer is caught early and then you know, remedies are done.
It's like one hundred percent five The five year survival
rate on it was one hundred percent. But that's before
it spreads. But if you get one that's really aggressive,
apparently it can go into other organs or into the bones.
Apparently it usually goes into the bones.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but again, the PSA is your early detector. Yeah,
and it typically reacts many, many months before there's any
type of sign that would show up later on. But anyway,
the only other comment I have is, you know, this
is sad, but you know, according to Hoopy Goldberg, doctor
Gill was a phenomenal MD. How all this got past
doctor Jill?
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, she's not that kind of doctor. Jeff's
not that but you make sure you call her doctor.
But make sure you call her doctor.
Speaker 2: Where's the ram shot?
Speaker 1: All right, I'll give you one. There you go, all right, Jeff,
I appreciate the call, buddy, Thank you. So Joe Biden
got deposed in October of twenty twenty three. This was
right after the Hamas attack on Israel, right, but this
was also then three months before the Democrat primaries started.
That's when Joe Biden sat for the deposition, and the
White House at the time was still claiming that he was,
you know, sharp As attack, he was doing you know,
laps around all of the twenty two year old interns
and stuff. He was. He was just like the fittest man. Ever,
it was still several months before the White House and
the media claimed videos that depicted Biden in the very
same state were quote cheap baits, right, that's what we
were being gaslet about at the time. So they had
kept this lie going. We could see Joe Biden's performances, right,
We were talking about it. I've been talking about it
his entire term. And then they gasled us, told us
that we're crazy, you're engaging in deception. Cheap fai. Our
news director asked coring John Pierre, White House Press Secretary,
you know, does he have dementia? And she got all
outraged about it. But now we have audio, the audio
from the deposition. Two pieces of the audio got released
on Friday, and I got questions about that too, like
how did that happen? Two chunks of audio.
Speaker 2: I have them.
Speaker 1: You'll hear them, and once you hear him, you will
realize why Democrats fought so hard to keep the audio
from being released, because there's no reason to not release it.
The transcripts were already released. They got the White House
got subpoena for these and Merrek Garland refused something that
he threw Steve Bannon in jail for doing, but he
himself is above the law.
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dot Com published the audio file of the deposition of
Joe Biden. Here's how they wrote it up. Amid long,
uncomfortable pauses, Joe Biden struggled to recall when his son died,
when he left office as Vice president, what year Donald
Trump was elected, or why he had classified documents that
he shouldn't have had. According to audio Axios obtained of
his October twenty twenty three interviews with Special Counsel Robert Hurr,
he occasionally slurred his words. He would mutter, you may
recall at the time Jamie Raskin opposed the subpoena to
get these things released from the House Republicans.
Speaker 3: And here is nothing relevant or material that our committee
can learn from an audio tape which we cannot learn
from the two hundred and fifty pages of the transcript.
The format of the medium does not change the content
of the communications.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, I'm not sure about that. The audio shows
what the transcript lacks, the President's dry whisper voice, the
long silences as he struggles to find the right words
or dates. Those often were supplied by his attorneys, who
acted as caretakers of his memory. Ed Morrissey at hot
air dot com. He writes, so, just how bad could
it be?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: Bad, really bad?
Speaker 4: So during his timelier Chambers Road and were doings related
to the Bio Center, the bio Where did you keep
papers that those things?
Speaker 1: Where did you keep the papers?
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know. This is what twenty seventeen eighteen,
that period. Remember, in this timeframe, my son is either
been deployed or is dying. And and so if it was.
And by the way, there were still a lot of
people at the time when I got out of the
Senate that were encouraging me to run in this period,
except the president.
Speaker 1: I'm not me, say man, but he felt the need
to say it. Right, A lot of people are encouraging
him to run, but not Barack Obama. That always stung him.
Speaker 5: He just thought that she had a better shot. But
when president and I did, and.
Speaker 1: So I hadn't.
Speaker 5: I hadn't at this point, even I'm a pan I
hadn't walked away from the idea that I may run
for office again. If I ran again and been running
for president and and so what was happening though when
Bode got amazed?
Speaker 2: Third years twenty eighteen.
Speaker 5: When twenty fifteen and died made twenty fifteen May it's
twenty fifteen, all.
Speaker 1: Right, twenty fifteen. The question was about later. But also
note who brought up his son's death. It was Joe
Robert Hurr did not ask about bo Biden's death. And
that will become important in a moment.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the month, so it goes, yeah, that's right, it's
a president because and what's happened in the meantime is that.
Speaker 4: Has and.
Speaker 5: Trump gets elected in November of twenty seventeen, sixteen, twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4: All right, so.
Speaker 5: Why I have twenty seventeen here? That's when you left
office in January twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Okay, Now he asks, why do I have twenty seventeen
written here, because that's when you left office. The election
was in sixteen. You left office in seventeen January inauguration.
Speaker 5: But that's when Trump gets sworn in. Krakat has looked
and in twenty seventeen both had passed, and man, it
was this personal the genesis of the book, and the
title promised me dad was a uh, I know they're
all close to your sons and daughters, but ooh, it's
like my right arm, and that was my left. These
guys were a year and a day apart, and they
could finish each other's sentences and boh, I used to
go home on the train, and.
Speaker 2: The period.
Speaker 5: That I was still the sentence. Anyway, there is pressure,
not pressure, BO do how much I do?
Speaker 4: And uh.
Speaker 5: It sounds maybe it sounds so everybody knew how close
you were there. It's not anybody who want to wonder whether.
Speaker 7: Or not.
Speaker 4: Anyway.
Speaker 7: And so.
Speaker 5: You know, let me just keep going.
Speaker 1: You gotta done take a break. I'm gonna take a break.
Do you remember what the question was? It was about
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oh yeah, Rodney Rodney emails, why do these things always
sound like they are done in a waffle house? So
part of it is that the rooms that they sit in,
these depositions for are not acoustically optimized. Shall we say,
you've got to you've got to do stuff to a
room in order to make the sound not ricochet all
around off of the walls and windows and stuff. And
most rooms are not soundproofed, and there's no such thing
as soundproofing sound mitigation. But you get to you know,
you get the foam on the walls and stuff, pillows
and you know, heavy drapery and that kind of stuff.
So that's the first part of it. The second part
of it is that Joe Biden's voice is so low.
He whispers as he talks so often that you have
to crank the mic way up and so you get
all that room noise. So that's why these clips sound
like they do. This clip is shorter. This is he
is not quite as rambley and disjointed, but you'll hear
in this clip he actually admits that he intended to
retain one classified document regarding his position on Afghanistan was this.
Speaker 7: Memo, mister president, Was this something that you consciously kept
after your term as vice president? Is this something that
he wanted to hold on to?
Speaker 5: I don't recall, Right, did I have this in my
position is spent?
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 7: And to give you some context for this, mister president,
he was found in the front of the notebook that's
on the first page, and that notebook was founded in
the library at the Lake House, in one of the troy.
Speaker 5: And answered, you don't I don't recall how I got back.
I mean, I don't recall how I got back in
the book because I sent it to the president. I
gave it to the president, and this looks like the original.
I don't think there's maybe there's a copy made it,
but I don't think.
Speaker 7: It was fact.
Speaker 5: Just oh okay, that's why.
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, No, I got it.
Speaker 5: I wasn't sure how I got how I whether I'm
gay handed the president it was fact to the President,
which I had to copy. I had the reason and
I just put it in the book and that was it.
Speaker 7: Okay. Were you aware that you had kept it after
your charmed vice president? Did you know who you had it?
Speaker 5: I don't know that I knew wouldn't one's times something
I would have time to think about it.
Speaker 7: The reason I ask is it's been written it out
about wood Word wrote it out and one of his books,
Jewels would Cover, wrote about it, and he's buy out
of you you so that that's the reason I asked
is if it was something that he wanted to hang
on to.
Speaker 2: You, he cause he was gonna be.
Speaker 5: Such reporting or his ni's gonna be such reporting. But
I I I wanted to hang out. I guess I
wanted to hang on with just preposterity set. I mean,
I think my position on Afghanistan. I I've been a
view from a historical standpoint that there are certain points
in history, world history where fundamental things change, usually technology.
For example, without Gutenberg's printing press, Europe gonna be a
very different place, literally a different place, because countries would
not have known what I what was happening in another
country of the parts of the country. You know, Uh,
think about a stupid idea, an notion. Nixon probably been
un president where he used to television where he sweatings.
I'm I'm used to say his sweatings so profusely. In
that debate, a lot of people thought he won the debate,
but he lost the debate because of his demeanor. The
So there's a lot of things that I think are
fundamentally changing how international society's function, and they related a
lot to technology. And one of the things that I
was in the view that a lot has changed in
terms of everything from the Internet to UH to the
way which we communicate with one another to that that
has fundamentally older it built. Like I've had this discussion
with the press, is for that? Yeah, sorry, And I
mean that's that's what I wanted to do. I I, uh,
I didn't know, didn't do with that gainst okay paid
that and.
Speaker 8: Mark just really quickly, I promise it will be brief.
I just really would like to avoid, for the purpose
of the clean record, getting into speculative areas. When the
President responded and said, I don't recall intending to keep
this memo, you then said, well, you know, might you
have thought it was important to keeping whatever he said, Well,
I guess I could his recollection as I understand it
is he does not recall specifically intending to keep this
memo after he left the vice presidency.
Speaker 5: And I want that to be I.
Speaker 8: Want these questions to be as clearly answered and recorded
on the transcript as possible.
Speaker 7: I bet we should take a Brabians.
Speaker 1: What was he talking about, the printing press, the internet,
Nixon's sweaty debate performance. What did any of that have
to do with him keeping the Afghanistan document that he
drew up and facts over to Obama? And then you
heard his lawyer. They're trying to like, oh, let's just
try to keep the transcript clean. Yeah, like take out
all of the stuff that that's incriminating, the part where
he says, yeah, I would Yeah, I wanted to keep
it for that reason. WHOA well, because that shows intent, right.
And then, of course you'll recall after Robert Hurr said
that he's not going to recommend charges against the president
because a jury would find him to be a sympathetic
old man with a faltering memory and they would not
convict him because he would not be able to remember
any of this stuff. And then Biden did the news
conference and he came out he's angry.
Speaker 5: There's even reference that I don't remember when my son died.
How in the hell dare he raise that? Frankly, when
I was asked a question, I thought to myself, wasn't
another damn business.
Speaker 3: He raised it.
Speaker 1: They never asked him that he lied.
Speaker 2: He lied.
Speaker 1: They did not ask him about his dead son. He
mentioned bo And then you'll recall everybody else went on
the attack against Robert Hurr. They were not pouncing. There
was no seizing. These are democrats, they don't do that.
Only Republicans pounce and sees upon things. Because remember, when
the scandal is about a Democrat, the story is the
Republican reaction to that scandal. And that's what we're seeing
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believe the Republicans are still wanting to talk about, you know,
Joe Biden's mental infirmity and now you know cancer. It's
the reaction stories that's where the media will shift focus to, unless,
of course, some of them have learned something in the
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out the timing of the Axios, the leaked audio, and
the publication by Axios from the her deposition. He says,
while this obviously raises questions about who was actually running
the White House at this point, the leak of these
audio files raises another question who gave the tapes to Axios? Right,
The Department of Justice had been planning to publicly release them,
but Axios does not credit the DJ. And you would
think that if they were they said they were going
to release it, you would think that they would release
it to everybody. They wouldn't leak it to Axios of
all places who had access to these audio files, the DOJ,
Robert Hurr's team, and the Biden's attorney. There's also the
question of the timing. He calls it curious. He says,
this is basically a Friday night news dump technique, which
is normally deployed to bury bad news over a weekend
to keep it from becoming a bigger headache. Who benefits
from that strategy in this case? And you can wonder
whether her and by the way, I present to you
no answers, because I don't have any of the answers.
These are the questions. We'll just ask good questions. These
are the questions that Ed Morrissey presents. I share the question.
I would like to hear an answer on that too.
Maybe Robert Herr or somebody in his office or his investigators.
Maybe they grew tired of the constant attempts by Democrats
to claim that they never saw Joe Biden slow down
until the June twenty twenty four debate. That's when they realized,
oh my gosh, what is this guy doing. You know,
I've not seen that Joe Biden.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: And Robert Herr I remember saying this at the time
when he he wrote his report and he said, this
is why we're not charging him. He was sending up
a signal flare to all of America like this guy
could not be convicted at trial because a jury would
not would find him to be sympathetic, and they would
view him as this elderly old man with a failing memory.
And do you remember what the Democrat response was. They
smeared Robert Herr, who is it? Harris Kamala Harris called
it gratuitous, inaccurate, and inappropriate, and Adam Schiff for Brains
called it a political sliming or by Robert Herr. That's
how they responded, which was essentially to claim that no, no, no,
Joe Biden is mentally fit to stand trial, right, which
was an odd position to take at the time. I
remember saying that too, like, wait, they're not charging you
and your argument is that the reason why they're not
charging you is not true, so you should be charged.
Speaker 2: And then.
Speaker 1: They charged Donald Trump with the same stuff, right, the
holding on of classified materials. Ed Morrissey's colleague at hot
air dot com, David Strom. He said, every person who
was pretending to be appalled by how bad Biden sounds
in the tapes pretty much knew that he would sound
just as rambling and senile as he in fact does.
That's why nobody said boom when Merrick Garland broke the
law by refusing a subpoena to turn over the tapes,
committing a crime for which he had recently put Steve
Bannon in jail. Every Democrat who scrambled to justify all
of this knew why it was vital to suppress the evidence,
and every partisan Democrat who defended Garland as a brave,
non partisan soldier just doing his job was fully aware
of what they would reveal. They just didn't want to
be confronted with the incontrovertible evidence. They wanted to believe
that the king was dressed in finery, so they pretended
he wasn't naked. The point of these psychological operations is
not so much to fool people into believing things that
are false. I mean, who actually believes that Donald trumpere
Elon Musk is a Nazi, or that Trump was a
Russian asset for decades, or that Biden was sharp as
attack Nobody. The point is to give people permission to
say these things and create a sufficiently plausible illusion that
they can maintain their allegiance to their tribe. And when
you have the entire establishment repeat the lies ever more confidently.
That that is a powerful tool to give Democrats permission
to pretend that the reality before their eyes is an illusion.
Nobody believed that the BLM protests were mostly peaceful. Nobody
believed that sitting at a restaurant was dangerous, but mass
protests in the streets were necessary for public health. Nobody
believed Joe Biden was sharp as attack. Strom says, and
I've seen him use this reference over the years, which
is that the media generated reality is the Truman Show, right,
But he says that's not quite right, because the main
character in the movie, when he discovers that his world
is an illusion, he escapes into the messy reality because
he refuses to live in an illusion. Today's Democrats love
the illusion and pretend not to see that it is
all fake. They know it's a lie, they just.
Speaker 4: Like it all right.
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