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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bedtime Astronomy. Explore the wonders of the cosmos

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<v Speaker 1>with our soothing Bedtime Astronomie podcast. Each episode offers a

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<v Speaker 1>gentle journey through the stars, planets, and beyond, perfect for

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<v Speaker 1>unwinding after a long day. Let's travel through the mysteries

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe as you drift off into a peaceful

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<v Speaker 1>slumber under the night sky.

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<v Speaker 2>Picture the most hostile, unforgiving environment you can possibly imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, we're talking about a world where the surface

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<v Speaker 2>temperatures soar to several hundred degrees celsius, like hot enough

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<v Speaker 2>to melt lead on contact.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, it's completely toxic, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a completely dry hellscape, devoid of any oceans,

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<v Speaker 2>no water whatsoever, just endless stretches of searing rock crushed

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<v Speaker 2>under an atmosphere so thick it would literally feel like

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<v Speaker 2>being a mile underwater on Earth.

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<v Speaker 3>It's immense pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is Venus. And for decades, the scientific consensus

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<v Speaker 2>was just entirely settled on one thing, that Venus was

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<v Speaker 2>a dead planet, completely dead, geologically dormant, locked in time,

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<v Speaker 2>just a static baking rog floating in the inner Solar System.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I mean it served as the ultimate cautionary tale

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<v Speaker 3>of planetary evolution.

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<v Speaker 2>For a long time the warning label.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, a world that had supposedly shut down its

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<v Speaker 3>internal engines a long long time ago, you know, leaving

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<v Speaker 3>behind a sterile, unchanging monument to a runaway greenhouse effect.

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<v Speaker 2>But what if that supposedly dead planet actually has a

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<v Speaker 2>beating geological heart.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that changes everything, right, what if.

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<v Speaker 2>Beneath that hellish, crushing surface venus is actually still geologically alive.

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<v Speaker 2>Today we are talking about vast tectonic activity, shifting crusts,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, even active volcanoes right next door to

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<v Speaker 2>us in the Solar System, which is.

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<v Speaker 3>Wild because it forces a complete rewrite of the planetary

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<v Speaker 3>science textbooks. I bet in this field, I mean long

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<v Speaker 3>held assumptions like a permanently dormant venus. They are frequently

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<v Speaker 3>just hypotheses waiting to be challenged by better.

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<v Speaker 2>Data, right, waiting for the tech to catch up.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, we get comfortable with our established narratives until, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a massive leap in computational capability forces us to wake

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<v Speaker 3>up and look at the evidence with totally fresh eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>So we are going to explore how groundbreaking new three

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<v Speaker 2>D technology unlocked this colossal secret. We'll examine how the

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<v Speaker 2>surface of Venus is actively shifting right now, how a

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<v Speaker 2>really bizarre physical process is constantly reshaping its mountains, and

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<v Speaker 2>how this revelation completely changes the trajectory of future space exploration.

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<v Speaker 3>Because looking at old mysteries with new tools proves that

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<v Speaker 3>our closest cosmic neighbors still have the capacity to completely

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<v Speaker 3>surprise us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they really do. So to really understand why this

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<v Speaker 2>shift in thinking is so monumental, we first need to

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<v Speaker 2>look at the physical scars on Venus itself.

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<v Speaker 3>The terrain is fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. If you were to look at a topographical

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<v Speaker 2>map of the planet right now, you would see these

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<v Speaker 2>enormous rift valleys, massive ones. Yeah, if you're familiar with

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<v Speaker 2>like the African rift valley here on Earth, it is

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<v Speaker 2>structurally similar to that. But the scale on Venus is

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<v Speaker 2>just staggering. We are talking about sprawling trenches spanning up

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<v Speaker 2>to ten thousand kilometers getting straight across the planet's surface, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And these are colossal, defining features of the planet's entire crust.

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<v Speaker 3>They aren't just you know, surface scratches. They are deep,

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<v Speaker 3>tantonic wounds that speak to the fundamental mechanics of the

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<v Speaker 3>entire planet.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's unpack this. Okay, because if you have a

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<v Speaker 2>massive ten thousand kilometer trench on a planet, my mind

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<v Speaker 2>instantly goes to planetary stretch marks.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good way to picture it.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like the globe is actively expanding or tearing

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<v Speaker 2>itself apart. But for years, geoscientists were firmly convinced that

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<v Speaker 2>these features were ancient and just entirely inactive, totally frozen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they assumed these rifts originated over one hundred million years

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<v Speaker 2>ago and were just frozen remnants of a long dead past.

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<v Speaker 2>So why were we so stubbornly convinced that they were

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<v Speaker 2>ancient history?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it really comes down to a fundamental bias in

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<v Speaker 3>how we understood geodynamics.

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<v Speaker 2>Geodynamics being like the study of how a planet's interior

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<v Speaker 2>heat moves.

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<v Speaker 3>The surface exactly how it deforms and moves the outer crust.

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<v Speaker 3>So we knew Venus was roughly the same size, mass,

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<v Speaker 3>and composition as Earth, right right, our twin, but it

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<v Speaker 3>visibly lacks Earth's system of plate tectonics.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay.

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<v Speaker 3>On our planet, the crust is broken into these distinct

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<v Speaker 3>plates that constantly shift they slide past each other, they subduct.

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<v Speaker 2>Under each other like puzzle pieces moving around.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, and that movement is what efficiently releases Earth's internal heat.

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<v Speaker 2>But Venus doesn't have those puzzle pieces. It just has

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<v Speaker 2>one solid, continuous outer shell, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And because it lacks that jigsaw puzzle crust, the prevailing

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<v Speaker 3>assumption was that its interior engine had just essentially choked.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 3>The old models suggested that without plate tectonics to release

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<v Speaker 3>the heat dynamically, Venus just slowly cooled down by conduction

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<v Speaker 3>over billions of years.

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<v Speaker 2>It was baking and coolid.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and its crust seized up entirely. So when scientists

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<v Speaker 3>looked at those sprawling rift valleys, they didn't see an

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<v Speaker 2>This saw a fossil exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>They logically assumed, based on the geodynamic models of the time,

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<v Speaker 3>that the kinetic energy required to tear a crust like

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<v Speaker 3>that simply didn't exist anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>That's wild. We basically looked at the geological equivalent of

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<v Speaker 2>a giant footprint and assumed the dinosaur that made it

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<v Speaker 2>died one hundred million years ago, like, without even checking

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<v Speaker 2>to see if the mud was still wet.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a perfect analogy. We were viewing the physical

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<v Speaker 3>evidence entirely through the lens of a rigid, preconceived assumption.

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<v Speaker 3>Because of the models, right, we simply lacked the computational

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<v Speaker 3>power to simulate anything more complex than a dormant cooling rock.

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<v Speaker 2>Which brings us to the technological revolution that changed everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the three D models.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the leap from seeing these rifts as ancient fossils

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<v Speaker 2>to realize they're actually fresh, actively moving features. It didn't

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<v Speaker 2>come from launching a new telescope nope. And it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>come from sending a new probe to physically sample the

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<v Speaker 2>rocks either. It came from a total revelation in how

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<v Speaker 2>we mathematically model planetary surfaces.

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<v Speaker 3>This is where computational geophysics steps in, specifically through a

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<v Speaker 3>team of researchers at ETH Zurich.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Professor Taras Geria and lead author of the study,

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<v Speaker 2>she Yang.

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<v Speaker 3>And Yang remarkably conducted this research during his master's degree.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, wow, just during his masters that's incredible,

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>They utilized a highly advanced, high resolution three D computer model,

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<v Speaker 3>and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Jump to three D here is the entire lynch pin

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<v Speaker 2>of the discovery, isn't it? Because the previous models that

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<v Speaker 2>gave us that whole dead planet theory, they were fundamentally

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<v Speaker 2>limited because they were mostly two.

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<v Speaker 3>Dimensional, right, very limited.

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<v Speaker 2>They relied on highly simplified assumptions about the material of

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<v Speaker 2>the planet. I picture it like trying to understand the

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<v Speaker 2>structural mechanics of a vast suspension bridge by only looking

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<v Speaker 2>at a flat two D line drawing on a piece

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<v Speaker 3>You'd miss so much?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you just miss all the physics of how the

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<v Speaker 2>tension and weight actually interact in the real world?

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly? A two dimensional model is essentially just a single slice.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a flat cross section. It cannot accurately capture the

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<v Speaker 3>complex geometries of how rocks bend, break, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>stretch across a curved planetary surface over time.

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<v Speaker 2>Because a planet is a sphere obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, obviously, But more importantly, two D models just couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>handle the thermodynamic complexity. When Yang and his team upgraded

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<v Speaker 3>to this high resolution three D simulation, they had to

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<v Speaker 3>break the planet's crust and mantle into a digital mesh

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<v Speaker 3>made of millions of tiny interconnected cubes, well millions of cubes.

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<v Speaker 2>So they are calculating the physics for every single one

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<v Speaker 2>of those cubes simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 3>Every single one, they are running equations for thermal expansion,

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<v Speaker 3>material density, and mantle convection for millions of spatial coordinates

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<v Speaker 3>all at once. That is yeah, that requires immense supercomputing

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<v Speaker 3>power that simply wasn't available when the older theories were established.

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<v Speaker 2>So they just didn't have the hardware back in the day.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But by applying that raw computational muscle, now they

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<v Speaker 3>could accurately replicate the rift structures in their entirety for

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<v Speaker 3>the very first time.

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<v Speaker 2>And when they let these three D simulations run, something

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<v Speaker 2>entirely new emerge from the math. They discovered that when

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<v Speaker 2>these huge rifts are geologically young, meaning they're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>either actively moving right now or they just recently stopped,

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<v Speaker 2>they formed these very specific topological features called rift flanks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the rift flanks are key.

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<v Speaker 2>Which are basically broad, towering ridges that run all along

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<v Speaker 2>the edges of the valleys. But here's what I want

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<v Speaker 2>to push you on. How does upgrading from two D

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<v Speaker 2>to three D suddenly allow us to see the true

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<v Speaker 2>age of these formations.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all about how force distributes.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, But why does adding that third dimension act like

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<v Speaker 2>a geological plock.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it comes back to how volume and stress distribute

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<v Speaker 3>in a three dimensional space. In two D, you are

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<v Speaker 3>forcing the math to behave in a straight line left

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<v Speaker 3>or right exactly, assuming the rock only moves left or right.

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<v Speaker 3>But in three D you can finally model how the

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<v Speaker 3>crust acts as a continuous, unified sheet across a sphere.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>I see when the crest pulls apart to form a rift.

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<v Speaker 3>The material doesn't just cleanly.

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<v Speaker 2>Separate, like snapping a cracker.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, it's not a clean break. The intense heat and

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<v Speaker 3>pressure welling up from the mantle beneath the tear push

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<v Speaker 3>the surrounding rock upward and outward.

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<v Speaker 2>Like pressing your thumb into the bottom of a tight

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<v Speaker 2>sheet of plastic m The edges around your thumb bow upwards.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that upward bowing creates those towering ridges the rift flanks.

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<v Speaker 3>And because the three D model calculates the flow of

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<v Speaker 3>that underlying heat so accurately, it allowed the researchers to

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<v Speaker 3>track exactly how those ridges behave over time.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, so they could watch them age in the simulation exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>They demonstrated that those high steep ridges are the definitive

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<v Speaker 3>signature of active or extremely recent movement. If the rift

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<v Speaker 3>were truly ancient, like if the internal engine shut down

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred million years ago, like everyone thought, those towering

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<v Speaker 3>flanks would not be standing tall anymore, Which.

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<v Speaker 2>Leads right into the most stunning part of the simulations.

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<v Speaker 2>If these rifts are young, they must be moving. They are,

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<v Speaker 2>and the models revealed they are widening much more rapidly

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<v Speaker 2>than anyone believed. We are looking at a rate of

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<v Speaker 2>three to ten centimeters.

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<v Speaker 3>Per year, which is huge, is it? Oh? Yeah, In

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<v Speaker 3>the context of a planetary lifespan, three to ten centimeters

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<v Speaker 3>a year is practically.

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<v Speaker 2>A sprint to geological sprint. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>It points to an immense amount of kinetic energy and

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<v Speaker 3>heat churning just below the crust to actively push that

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<v Speaker 3>much solid rock apart.

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<v Speaker 2>But wait, this brings up a major physics problem for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>The simulations showed that when this tectonic movement eventually does cease,

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<v Speaker 2>the older the rift system gets, the less steep and

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<v Speaker 2>But if there is absolutely no wind or water erosion

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<v Speaker 2>How does solid rock just decide to flatten out on

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<v Speaker 3>That's the billion dollar question, and we have to completely

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<v Speaker 3>abandon our Earth's centric view of geology to understand this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>on our planet, we rely almost entirely on erosion. Water, ice,

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<v Speaker 3>and wind act like cosmic sandpaper, just slowly wearing down

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<v Speaker 3>jagged mountain peaks over millions of years. Right, Venus obviously

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking hundreds of degrees celsius at the surface exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And at those extreme temperatures the physical properties of the

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<v Speaker 2>Find on a hike here, so it's soft.

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<v Speaker 3>It is incredibly hot, which means it behaves plastically over

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<v Speaker 3>geological timeframe plastically. Right, It's not melted lava. It is

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<v Speaker 3>still solid rock, but it has a microscopic flexibility to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine like a thick pane of glass suspended in a

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<v Speaker 3>that intense heat, it begins to slowly.

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<v Speaker 2>Sag ah crystal relaxation, that.

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<v Speaker 3>the active rifting stops, gravity takes over and it just

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<v Speaker 3>groups exactly because the rock is so hot and slightly plastic,

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<v Speaker 3>it simply cannot support its own towering weight over millions

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<v Speaker 3>of years. It slowly slumps. It SAgs back down into

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, so the heat is actually the key to solving

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<v Speaker 3>It really is.

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<v Speaker 2>The heat causes the sagging, which means if the mountains

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<v Speaker 2>along these rifts are still standing tall, they have to

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<v Speaker 2>be new, yes, because otherwise the Venusian heat would have

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<v Speaker 3>By now you've just walked through. The exact logical deduction

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<v Speaker 3>that Shi Yang and Tarskaria made from their data is

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<v Speaker 3>the supercomputer provided the blueprint. It showed them exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>a living, breathing Venus should look like, and conversely, what

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<v Speaker 2>But a computer simulation, no matter how advanced, is just

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<v Speaker 2>a brilliant theory until it can be matched with physical

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<v Speaker 2>observational proof.

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<v Speaker 3>True, you need the real world data to back it up.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's where it gets really interesting, because if we

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<v Speaker 2>too simple, it makes me wonder what else we're misreading

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<v Speaker 2>right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, because the visual proof for this three D model

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't gathered by a new billion dollar satellite that we

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<v Speaker 2>just launched. It was sitting in our space archives for

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<v Speaker 2>decades since the nineties. Yeah. The wide and high rift

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<v Speaker 2>flanks generated by the eth Zurix simulations perfectly matched physical

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<v Speaker 2>features seen in actual images of the Venusian surface. And

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<v Speaker 2>those images were captured by the Magellan prode way back

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineteen nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is incredible. The Magellan mission remains one of the

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<v Speaker 2>It mapped almost the whole planet, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It mapped a ninety eight percent of the surface of Venus.

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<v Speaker 3>But the thing is it couldn't just take normal photographs.

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<v Speaker 3>Why not, because visible light cannot penetrate the dense toxic

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<v Speaker 3>clouds of sulfuric acid that blanket the planet. It's completely opaque.

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<v Speaker 3>So Magellan had to use synthetic aperture radar.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, how does that actually work in practice? Like, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you see through the acid clouds?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, instead of capturing light level camera, the probe beams

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<v Speaker 3>radio waves down at the planet. Okay, those radio waves

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<v Speaker 3>pass right through the thick cloud cover unaffected. They hit

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<v Speaker 3>the rocky surface, and then they bounce back up to

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<v Speaker 3>the probe.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh like an echo.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly like an echo. By timing exactly how long it

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<v Speaker 3>takes for those echoes to return, Magellan was able to

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<v Speaker 3>build a highly detailed topographical map of all the mountains

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<v Speaker 3>and valleys down below.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, And it.

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<v Speaker 3>Sent back mountains of this incredible radar data in the

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<v Speaker 2>But at the time we just didn't have the three

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<v Speaker 2>D modeling capability to properly interpret what Magella had actually found.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, we saw the high ridges and the radar data,

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<v Speaker 3>they were right there, but because our two D geodynamic

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<v Speaker 3>models insisted the planet was cold and dead, we just

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't make sense of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I had the wrong context totally.

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<v Speaker 3>The established science told us they had to be ancient,

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<v Speaker 3>even though their towering height physically contradicted that very assumption.

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<v Speaker 2>We were literally staring at the answer key for thirty years,

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<v Speaker 2>but we didn't know how to read the language.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it wasn't until we had the supercomputers decades later

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<v Speaker 2>that the archival radar data suddenly clicked into place.

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<v Speaker 3>And the combination of those two elements is what makes

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<v Speaker 3>this scientific finding so incredibly.

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<v Speaker 2>Robust, the old data and the new math.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. You have theoretical physics running in a cutting edge

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<v Speaker 3>three D simulation on one side, and then you have

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<v Speaker 3>hard observational radar echoes from the Magellan probe.

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<v Speaker 2>On the other, and they line up when.

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<v Speaker 3>You overlay them. They match perfectly. The topography Magellan recorded

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<v Speaker 3>shows youthful flank morphology, which means it unequivocally confirms that

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<v Speaker 3>Venus has a dynamically warm interior.

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<v Speaker 2>The dinosaurs alive and stopping around the living room.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh. Yes, it remains a highly.

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<v Speaker 2>Active planet that is just so wild to think about.

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<v Speaker 3>The internal heat is still there, driving tectonic activity, likely

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<v Speaker 3>driving volcanic activity, and pushing the crust around it up

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<v Speaker 3>to ten centimeters a year. It thoroughly invalidates the long

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<v Speaker 3>term geological dormancy theory.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so what does this all mean If we were

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<v Speaker 2>so wrong about our closest planetary neighbor. It really forces

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<v Speaker 2>a reckoning for humanity's next steps in space, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>It definitely changes the roadmap.

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<v Speaker 2>We went from dismissing Venus as a baking, boring rock

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<v Speaker 2>to realizing it's a dynamically active world. How does this

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<v Speaker 2>radical shift in understanding change our immediate plans for exploration.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it instantly elevates Venus to one of the most

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<v Speaker 3>high priority targets in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Solar System over Mars.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, for a long time, Mars received the lion's share

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<v Speaker 3>of our exploratory budget and our attention because we thought

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<v Speaker 3>Venus was a closed on interesting book. Right now, there

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<v Speaker 3>is a massive surgeon interest. Both NASA and the European

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<v Speaker 3>Space Agency are preparing specialized exploratory missions to go back.

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<v Speaker 2>We are heading back into the hellscape.

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<v Speaker 3>We are specifically, ESA is launching the Envision mission in

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, in Vision, and the.

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<v Speaker 3>Core goal of Envision is to explore the planet holistically,

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<v Speaker 3>like mapping the interactions from its inner core all the

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<v Speaker 3>way up to its toxic upper atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to imagine the eth Zurich researchers who made

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<v Speaker 2>this three D discovery are going to be heavily involved

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<v Speaker 2>in that messure.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they are central to it. Eophysics professors Paul Tackley

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<v Speaker 3>and Tarasgaria are actively collaborating on the Envision mission right now.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they are helping develop specific surface analyzing instruments for

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<v Speaker 3>the orbiter. And this is where their three D model

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<v Speaker 3>transitions from like a theoretical breakthrough to a very practical.

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<v Speaker 2>Tool, because now they know where to look exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Because we now know that Venus is active, we don't

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<v Speaker 3>just want to look indiscriminately at the surface anymore. We

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<v Speaker 3>want to look where the action is happening right now.

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<v Speaker 3>The computational model acts like a treasure map, helping pinpoint

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<v Speaker 3>the most dynamic shifting regions on the planet for these

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<v Speaker 3>new probes to investigate in granular detail.

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<v Speaker 2>So instead of blindly scanning the globe and hoping for

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<v Speaker 2>the best, they can actually program the probe and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>the model predicts active crustal tearing at this specific set

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<v Speaker 2>of coordinates. Point the radar instruments exactly there.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly how they'll do it.

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<v Speaker 2>That is incredible. But I want to zoom out even

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<v Speaker 2>further for a second, like beyond our Solar system. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>zoom map, because whenever we figure out a fundamental mechanical

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<v Speaker 2>truth about a planet next door, it usually changes how

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<v Speaker 2>we interpret the rest of the universe, right, almost always.

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<v Speaker 2>How does understanding crustal relaxation and the tectonic shifting of

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<v Speaker 2>Venus actually help us find earthlike planets orbiting distant stars.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great question. It completely expands our recipe for

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<v Speaker 3>planetary formation and life support. Howso, right now, when we

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<v Speaker 3>use instruments like the James Webs Telescope to look for

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<v Speaker 3>rocky exoplanets in deep space, we are mostly relying on

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<v Speaker 3>our understanding of Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's our only working example.

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<v Speaker 3>Of life exactly. We look for biosignatures, sure, but we

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<v Speaker 3>also look for geosignatures signs that a planet is geologically.

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<v Speaker 2>Alive, because a dead planet can't maintain an atmosphere for

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<v Speaker 2>very long.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you nailed it on Earth. Our specific style of

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<v Speaker 3>plate tectonics constantly subducts the crust, recycling carbon and other

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<v Speaker 3>elements into the mantle, which are then released back into

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<v Speaker 3>the atmosphere through volcanic eruptions. This outgassing regulates.

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<v Speaker 2>Our climate, keeps us breathing.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly until now. We basically assume that for a rocky

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<v Speaker 3>planet to have sustained volcanic activity and a regulated atmosphere,

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<v Speaker 3>it probably needed a fragmented, shifting crust just like ours.

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<v Speaker 2>It needed plate tectonics.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But Venus proves that assumption wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Ohb it's doing it without the place exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It proves that a planet can be geologically alive and

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<v Speaker 3>dynamically active without Earth specific tectonic plates.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Venus uses crustal relaxation and immense internal heat to constantly

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<v Speaker 3>churn its interior. That ongoing slumping and rifting creates pathways

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<v Speaker 3>for magma to rize, which leads to volcanic outgasing. If

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<v Speaker 3>it's venting, Yes, it maintains atmospheric pressure and chemical cycles

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<v Speaker 3>purely through these massive rifts without needing sliding puzzle pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>So, if we are staring at a distant rocky exoplanet

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<v Speaker 2>out in the galaxy, and we detect specific sulfur or

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<v Speaker 2>carbon signatures in its atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't have to assume it has continents drifting around

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<v Speaker 3>like Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>We can add Venus to the list of possibilities exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Venus gives us an alternative blueprint for a living, rocky planet.

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<v Speaker 3>It tells us that rocky worlds have more than one

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<v Speaker 3>evolutionary path to stay active and maintain the atmospheric conditions

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<v Speaker 3>that might, you know, under different circumstances, support.

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<v Speaker 2>Life that is profound.

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<v Speaker 3>It really broadens our entire understanding of what to look

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<v Speaker 3>for in the dark.

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<v Speaker 2>We started by looking at a planet we completely rode off,

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<v Speaker 2>and it ended up teaching us how to search for dynamic,

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<v Speaker 2>active worlds across the entire galaxy. Science is funny that way,

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<v Speaker 2>it really is. We took Venus this inhospitable, crushing environment

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<v Speaker 2>and assumed its sprawling rift valleys were just one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>million year old scars, just dead rock. But by upgrading

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<v Speaker 2>our perspective from a flat two D assumption to a

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<v Speaker 2>staggering three D computational mesh, researchers realized those towering rift

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<v Speaker 2>flanks are the undeniable fingerprint of ongoing tectonic.

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<v Speaker 3>Movement, movement that is actively tearing the crust apart, fighting

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<v Speaker 3>a constant battle against the intense heat of the planet

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<v Speaker 3>that wants to rapidly sag and flatten those mountains through

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<v Speaker 3>crustal relaxation.

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<v Speaker 2>And the most poetic part of it all is that

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<v Speaker 2>the proof was waiting patiently in our.

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<v Speaker 3>Archives, sitting right there on the hard drives.

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<v Speaker 2>Echoing back from the nineteen nineties Magellan Probe, just waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for human mathematics to finally catch up and translate the signal.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great story.

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<v Speaker 2>It transformed a dead world world into a dynamic, living

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<v Speaker 2>planet right next door, and it's charting the literal flight

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<v Speaker 2>path for the Envision mission in the twenty thirties. It

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<v Speaker 2>serves as a profound reminder for you listening right now

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<v Speaker 2>that scientific knowledge is never truly finished. Never the things

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<v Speaker 2>we consider to be absolute, settled facts can literally be

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<v Speaker 2>upended by a new perspective or a computational upgrade.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is why we must constantly question our baseline assumptions

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<v Speaker 3>and science. The physical data is ultimately only as good

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<v Speaker 3>as the models we used to interpret.

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<v Speaker 2>It absolutely, and it leaves you with a pretty wild

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<v Speaker 2>thought to chew on as we wrap up. Yeah, at

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<v Speaker 2>the very beginning, we talk about how comforting it is

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<v Speaker 2>to neatly categorize things, to put a label on venus,

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<v Speaker 2>it says dormant and just walk away. We love our labels,

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<v Speaker 2>we really do. But if our closest planetary neighbor was

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<v Speaker 2>secretly hiding, actively shifting tectonic forces and a churning, beating

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<v Speaker 2>geological heart right in plain sight for thirty years, what

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<v Speaker 2>other supposedly dead moons or rocky worlds in our Solar

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<v Speaker 2>system might be secretly be alive, just waiting for us

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<v Speaker 2>to finally build the right model to see them.
