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Speaker 4: Now I'm Billy Cunning in the Great American with you
Speaker 4: every Sunday, picking up about five more stations, and I'm
Speaker 4: glad to have close to three hundred and fifty stations
Speaker 4: now from Alaska to Florida, from Maine Nowai every place
Speaker 4: in between, and over the next ten or eleven weeks.
Speaker 4: How consequential is this going to be? I have several
Speaker 4: guests coming up two or three to talk about the
Speaker 4: end of civilization as we know it. It might be a
Speaker 4: little bit overstated, but not really. Right now, we owe
Speaker 4: about thirty six trillion dollars in national debt. We pay
Speaker 4: as much as interest on the national debt as for
Speaker 4: the Department of Defense, and the plans of Kamala Harris
Speaker 4: and that puts vice president from Minnesota would have us
Speaker 4: borrowing another four billion dollars every year as far as
Speaker 4: the eye can see. With their various governmental programs, we
Speaker 4: can't survive. I can't look at a twenty or twenty
Speaker 4: five year old and say, you know what, the country
Speaker 4: we're going to give you is in as good or
Speaker 4: better shape than the country my mother and father gave me.
Speaker 4: I can't say that it's bad. It's going to get worse,
Speaker 4: not better. The only way is to try to change course,
Speaker 4: and even that may not be good enough. Donald Trump
Speaker 4: has the best of intentions, but the fourth state of government,
Speaker 4: the bureaucracy, will not put up with it. And so
Speaker 4: I don't know what the future holds, but I know
Speaker 4: this is only one way to vote. That's for Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: Because Kamala Harris will be a putz in the Oval office.
Speaker 4: You'll do whatever left wingers tell her to do, and
Speaker 4: Bernie Sanders will be in charge. If you like the
Speaker 4: conditions of our major cities, if you like the conditions
Speaker 4: of Chicago or Portland, or Los Angeles, downtown Cincinnati, which
Speaker 4: by the way, is pretty good compared to the other ones.
Speaker 4: But how about Atlanta, Washington, DC, Memphis. You can't live
Speaker 4: in those areas. There's not a place you can raise
Speaker 4: a family, get work, send your kids to public schools,
Speaker 4: and be safe. It doesn't exist. During the Democratic National Convention,
Speaker 4: which ended about three nights ago, there were twenty seven
Speaker 4: people shot and seven murdered in the city of Chicago.
Speaker 4: And what a ridiculous farce that convention was. And so tonight,
Speaker 4: as I said, the last few Sunday nights, at some
Speaker 4: point out eleven and Hesbelah will launch on Israel. Last night,
Speaker 4: Wolf Blitzer, if CNN was going nuts, this was it,
Speaker 4: This is going to be the war. It turned out
Speaker 4: to be not to be the war. And they launched
Speaker 4: about two two hundred missiles, guided cruise missiles and artillery shells.
Speaker 4: Ninety percent were apprehendis how we say, blown apart in
Speaker 4: the sky. And the next step did not happen, and
Speaker 4: you keep waiting for it. Why is it not happening?
Speaker 4: I think, I know, I think Senator Graham from South
Speaker 4: Carolina mentioned it on one of the morning talk shows
Speaker 4: that Israel has conveyed the message to Iran that your
Speaker 4: proxies in the north and south of Israel, if they
Speaker 4: caused serious damage to the state of Israel, We're going
Speaker 4: to cause serious damage to Iran from which it won't
Speaker 4: recover for years, if not decades. They've examined there's three
Speaker 4: oil exporting ports that are multi billion dollar facilities in
Speaker 4: Iran that to Israel could take out in the next
Speaker 4: hour or two. By midnight Eastern time, guess what they're gone,
Speaker 4: And all of a sudden the price of oil triples
Speaker 4: or quadruples, and Iran is out of business. They have
Speaker 4: no economy. None of the Islamic states have an economy.
Speaker 4: Is there an economy in Lebanon with Hesbela. You might
Speaker 4: recall that in the fifties, sixties, seventies, and early eighties
Speaker 4: that by root was the Paris of the Middle East.
Speaker 4: It was functioning, not functioning anymore. And by the way,
Speaker 4: I got to get to Christian Chicago in a few
Speaker 4: minutes because he's the call of the Caledon last Sunday night,
Speaker 4: christe right there. Look at what Hesbelah Islamic extremists have
Speaker 4: done to be root in Lebanon. There is no economy,
Speaker 4: there's no functioning medical system, there's no functioning public education.
Speaker 4: Nobody works except for Hesbelah. And they torture, beat and
Speaker 4: kill women and children on a regular basis. There are Muslims.
Speaker 4: Look what's happening in a gaza with Hamas. They took
Speaker 4: the billions and billions of dollars in our money given
Speaker 4: to them, and the billions given from Europe and from
Speaker 4: UN agencies to pound those plowshares into weapons and use
Speaker 4: against the g Jews. And so instead of using it
Speaker 4: to build better schools, better hospitals, no no, no, they
Speaker 4: had guns and weapons and missiles and artillery shells and
Speaker 4: cruise missiles and put controlling command centers inside schools. So
Speaker 4: the Jews would have to respond by killing large numbers
Speaker 4: of Palestinian children, which is what Hamas wants to occur.
Speaker 4: So that's what Hamas has done in Gossa, which is
Speaker 4: on the course the Mediterranean, and it's a wonderful piece
Speaker 4: of land that over the years and decades could be
Speaker 4: developed into a functioning democracy, but not with Hamas won't
Speaker 4: have it. Then you have the hoodies in Yemen. It's
Speaker 4: on the ocean, could be a beautiful place to live.
Speaker 4: There's no jobs, there's no public education, there's no public utilities,
Speaker 4: there's nothing to do in Yemen because of the Hoodies,
Speaker 4: who are left wing radical Islamic group go to Afghanistan.
Speaker 4: For many years, Afghanistan had a little bit of a
Speaker 4: functioning society because of our involvement in Afghanistan. As soon
Speaker 4: as Joe Biden did what he did in the first
Speaker 4: six months of his presidency, the Taliban has taken over Afghanistan,
Speaker 4: killed all the freedom loving Afghans, imprisoned in their garb,
Speaker 4: women and girls and children, and brutalized the nation of Afghanistan.
Speaker 4: In fact, everywhere you look in the Islamic world there's
Speaker 4: a functioning part, which is the Suning part, and a
Speaker 4: completely dysfunctional part called the Shia part. Look what's happening
Speaker 4: in the rock under the boot of Isis Islamic states
Speaker 4: and Siria is what it's called. Look, look, look what's
Speaker 4: going on right now in Syria. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4: And so, as long as the world puts up with Iran,
Speaker 4: the head of the snake doing what it's doing with
Speaker 4: hesbla hamas Isis and the leaders of Iran are far
Speaker 4: left wing militaristic killers who masquerade as holy godly men,
Speaker 4: nothing's going to change, and it could change. It could
Speaker 4: change by telling Iran the next time there's an artillery
Speaker 4: shell or a missile that arrives in Israel from Hamas
Speaker 4: or from Hoodie's or from the Hesbalah. We're going to
Speaker 4: attack your oil platforms and ports in southern part of
Speaker 4: Iran and take you out of business. You'll have nothing
Speaker 4: first time it happens, and then do it. And if
Speaker 4: that doesn't work, there's two large dams north of Tehran
Speaker 4: that provide all the drinking water for Iran. You do
Speaker 4: it the next time. Guess what we're gonna do. We're
Speaker 4: gonna take out all the drinking water supplies in Iran.
Speaker 4: Next time it happens. We're gonna eliminate all the power grid.
Speaker 4: You'll have none. Next time it happens, we're gonna take
Speaker 4: down all the departments of Defense and war inside Iran,
Speaker 4: and suddenly there'll be a revolution in Iran and maybe
Speaker 4: peace would come back. That's what needs to happen. Because
Speaker 4: I spoke to foreign policy experts. A couple coming up
Speaker 4: later on, including I'm looking forward to this. My guests
Speaker 4: later on includes Seth Franz gonna call him in Israel.
Speaker 4: He wrote a book about what happened on October the seventh,
Speaker 4: and also later on his past remark builts to talk
Speaker 4: what's happening. I thought tonight might be a good knight
Speaker 4: to talk about what Hesblas doing. Twenty four hours ago
Speaker 4: exchanged a little bit, but not a lot, not a lot.
Speaker 4: Israel needs to win the war. The strategy of the
Speaker 4: Islamic terrorists and the murderers, the knife wielders in Germany,
Speaker 4: in England, in Paris. Maybe we need knife control now,
Speaker 4: maybe a three day waiting period before we get a knife.
Speaker 4: The Islamic extremists has declared war on civilization, taking down
Speaker 4: large numbers of people, not just in the West, but
Speaker 4: in Canada and Mexico, United States and Russia, for God's sake,
Speaker 4: killing all over the world. And the head of the
Speaker 4: snake is Iran. And the goal now is to bleed
Speaker 4: Israel dry, to keep them in a perpetual state of war,
Speaker 4: so they have no economy, and every time time a
Speaker 4: daybreak occurs in Haifa, or in Tel Aviv or Jerusalem,
Speaker 4: there's more rockets and artillery shells coming overhead. And to
Speaker 4: keep them on a war footing, so they can't have
Speaker 4: a high tech industry, can't have agriculture, and they can't
Speaker 4: have tourism. For a while, last night or this morning
Speaker 4: tel Aviv International Airport was locked down. The way to
Speaker 4: win the war is to eliminate the head of the
Speaker 4: snake in Tehran. And this morning Senator Graham said as
Speaker 4: much that the next time one of these artillery shells
Speaker 4: land with Iran's signature on it, we will attack mercilessly
Speaker 4: elements in Iran that cause that society and a sense
Speaker 4: to exist. And the people of Iran went out from
Speaker 4: under the yoke of these Islamic radicals who call themselves
Speaker 4: men of God. So that's what needs to happen. They're
Speaker 4: going to bleed Israel dry. Israel economies right now is
Speaker 4: in the tank. And every time that the controlling command
Speaker 4: centers of a mass are taken out inside of school
Speaker 4: and CNN and other organizations broadcasts the death of innocent
Speaker 4: Palestinian children, and they are innocent Palestinian children killed by
Speaker 4: Hamas that the Jews blame for it when they're trying
Speaker 4: to defend themselves against takeover. One can only imagine if
Speaker 4: Iran itself had the military power of Israel, and Israel
Speaker 4: had the military power of Iran, what Israel would look like.
Speaker 4: It would be devastated, It'd be gone the goal of
Speaker 4: Iran is to kill every Jew, half for in Israel,
Speaker 4: about half for in the United States wherever you can
Speaker 4: find him, and export terrorism all over the world. That's
Speaker 4: the goal. And Saudi Arabia doesn't want it. Cutter doesn't
Speaker 4: want it. You're not em by Iran. They don't want it.
Speaker 4: They stand with us. That is not civilization. It is
Speaker 4: the end of civilization as we know it. So later on, also,
Speaker 4: I want to put a call into Will Scarf. He's
Speaker 4: the attorney for Donald Trump. And I thought now that
Speaker 4: the Demaker Democratic Convention is concluded, that it looks like
Speaker 4: the lawsuits and the indictments are going away because Jack
Speaker 4: Smith has said to Judge Shunkin in Washington, DC that
Speaker 4: he's done until after the election, and the case in
Speaker 4: Florida was dismissed. The one in New York City's on
Speaker 4: life support. God help us all if Judge Juan Mrshawan
Speaker 4: in about two weeks I think September the sixteenth puts
Speaker 4: Donald Trump in prison on those ridiculous trumped up charges
Speaker 4: put out by Democrats so they can say at their
Speaker 4: convention it's a convicted felon. God help us all if
Speaker 4: he locks him up, and the case in Atlanta's going
Speaker 4: to go away eventually anyway, because the prosecutor there, Fanny Willis,
Speaker 4: is an incompetent. Her license will probably be suspended by
Speaker 4: the Georgia Disiplinary Council. So all this is going to
Speaker 4: go away. It was put up for political reasons, and
Speaker 4: it's all going to go away by legal reasons. That's
Speaker 4: why Will Scarf's going to be here, the attorney for
Speaker 4: Donald Trump, who, by the way, is running for the
Speaker 4: attorney general in the state of Missouri. And I know
Speaker 4: I get calls from Missouri, some others Loo, and from
Speaker 4: others in Missouri, and I would love to go to
Speaker 4: Missouri and vote for Will Scarf if I could. Donald
Speaker 4: Trump's attorney. This guy's brilliant. He wins every case that
Speaker 4: he takes. SACD short break. When we continue, we're gonna
Speaker 4: hear from Chris and Chicago called last week. He talked
Speaker 4: about the city of Chicago locked down, boarded up, and
Speaker 4: I asked them to call in this Sunday night to
Speaker 4: talk about what happened for those four days in Chicago
Speaker 4: and is there a glow? Are the businesses now open?
Speaker 4: Can the schools now reopen? Are there functioning government facilities
Speaker 4: happening in the city of Chicago. I don't think so.
Speaker 4: How about San Francisco, Los Angeles, let's named the city.
Speaker 4: The longer the Democrats are in charge of a city,
Speaker 4: the worse it becomes. In fact, there's no functioning blue
Speaker 4: city and the Blue state anywhere in the country, and
Speaker 4: that they have taken our opulent, beautiful, majestic American cities
Speaker 4: and their policies have destroyed them. So let's continue with
Speaker 4: more if a line becomes available. Eight six six six
Speaker 4: four seven seven three three seven. Bill Cunningham, the Great
Speaker 4: American with you and other great Americans every Sunday. Of course,
Speaker 4: we have thousands of calls tonight. We're going to begin
Speaker 4: with Chris and Chicago, and then JD in Vegas and
Speaker 4: calls in New Hampshire and Idaho and Pittsburgh. But one
Speaker 4: other comment. I have a lot of respect for Frank Lunz.
Speaker 4: I've done some cable news shows with him, including on
Speaker 4: Balance with Leland Vintert, and he was with Leland on Friday,
Speaker 4: and this is a reference to the RFK Junior endorsement
Speaker 4: of Donald Trump and his appearance with him, and he
Speaker 4: made the point that on balance, it's worth one to
Speaker 4: two percentage points for Donald Trump to have RFK out
Speaker 4: of the race to endorse him, And he said he
Speaker 4: sensed that Kennedy alone in the race was trying about
Speaker 4: eight to ten percentage points, and because he left, most
Speaker 4: of those percentage points were votes taken away from Joe Biden.
Speaker 4: Now that Biden's gone, Kamala Harris has replaced him, and
Speaker 4: that Kennedy's vote collapsed down to about four or five percent,
Speaker 4: And what's left in that four to five percent is
Speaker 4: eighty percent Trump vote. So some of them are unhappy,
Speaker 4: not going to participate, of course, but roughly two percent,
Speaker 4: he says, the wins remaining are going to vote for
Speaker 4: Donald Trump. And you think maybe one or two percentage
Speaker 4: points not that big a deal. There should be about
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty million people voting, and the last election,
Speaker 4: allegedly in twenty twenty, Biden received eighty one million votes.
Speaker 4: Trump received seventy four million votes. There were about eight
Speaker 4: million votes counted cast for others Joe Stein et cetera.
Speaker 4: So about one hundred and sixty one hundred and sixty
Speaker 4: five million people might vote. I think probably ninety five
Speaker 4: percent legitimately the other five percent will be made up,
Speaker 4: but that one percentage point could have a huge impact,
Speaker 4: a difference in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. And he went
Speaker 4: on to say that if RFK Junior had endorsed Kamala Harris,
Speaker 4: which was certainly a possibility, then that would mean that
Speaker 4: Trump would in fact lose one to two percentage points
Speaker 4: instead of gaining one percent win or two percentage points,
Speaker 4: which is a three to four percent whip, which is gigantic.
Speaker 4: But I hasten to point out one other thing. We
Speaker 4: sit here in the evening of August at twenty fifth,
Speaker 4: it's about ten to twenty five pm Eastern time on
Speaker 4: the left coast. You know, it's about seven to twenty
Speaker 4: five in the evening sun end said, Yet what going
Speaker 4: to decide this election may not have occurred yet if
Speaker 4: we had a legitimate media in twenty twenty, the Hunter
Speaker 4: Biden laptop that the FBI had eleven months before the election,
Speaker 4: knowing it was real, would have tanked the possibilities of
Speaker 4: Joe Biden being elected, in fact about forty percent of
Speaker 4: his votes. That if they knew what was in the
Speaker 4: Hunter Biden laptop before the election, they would not have
Speaker 4: voted for Joe Biden. So the media fully participated in
Speaker 4: the lies about the Hunter Biden laptop, which assists that
Speaker 4: Joe Biden the same thing's going to happen this time.
Speaker 4: No matter what happens, it's going to be twisted and
Speaker 4: turned against Donald Trump and in favor of Kamala Harris
Speaker 4: because she's a Putts and she'll do whatever she's told
Speaker 4: in the Oval Office, much like Joe Biden is going
Speaker 4: to do what he's told for the next five or
Speaker 4: six months. And so the fact that RFK Junior has
Speaker 4: arrived with Donald Trump is about a plus two to
Speaker 4: three percentage points, especially in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. If
Speaker 4: Trump wins two of those three, he's the president. If
Speaker 4: he wins all three, he's the president. If he loses
Speaker 4: all three, it's going to be very difficult. I think
Speaker 4: the best state for Donald Trump is going to be
Speaker 4: the state of Michigan, goes to the Palestinian vote there,
Speaker 4: and the fact that it appears that Joe Biden is
Speaker 4: helping both sides in that war, giving money to Iran
Speaker 4: and giving missiles to Israel, both of which half of
Speaker 4: which is only popular in Dearborn County, so that may
Speaker 4: cost him one hundred thousand votes, which may turn Michigan.
Speaker 4: Plus there's more and more patriots in Michigan every day
Speaker 4: than understanding the ev industry that the electrical vehicle plant
Speaker 4: being built by the Chinese communists in Mexico would tank
Speaker 4: the internal combustion engine made in Dearborn and in Detroit.
Speaker 4: So workers in Michigan understand this more than other parts
Speaker 4: of the country. They're more close to it. So the
Speaker 4: fact is that pollster Frank Lunz believes that the RFK
Speaker 4: junior endorsement of Trump could make the difference in the
Speaker 4: Swing States unless something more dramatic happens, which is likely
Speaker 4: in September or October. Plus, the Great Debate is September tenth.
Speaker 4: We have to see Kamala Harris will do fine in
Speaker 4: that debate and Donald Trump, I think, will do fine.
Speaker 4: And then if Trump wins the debate, which is very
Speaker 4: unlikely because the media will declare the winner and it's
Speaker 4: not going to be Donald Trump, then there may not
Speaker 4: be another debate because if Kamala Harris is still up
Speaker 4: in the polling, say the end of September, that maybe
Speaker 4: it's baked in the cake, that we're gonna have to
Speaker 4: fight like warrior poets for this country. I've said to
Speaker 4: many young folks like Demanti MacIntyre, Jalen Rose, and others
Speaker 4: that this country is worth fighting for. It's a great place.
Speaker 4: It could be better, could be a lot better. I'm
Speaker 4: not sure that Trump's going Donald Trump can do a
Speaker 4: whole bunch to change the direction of Washington. But I
Speaker 4: know one thing. He'll stop what's happening. Not Kamala Harris
Speaker 4: what she would do, which would be disastrous along with
Speaker 4: her Putts. Lieutenant Governor of the state of Minnesota, Tim
Speaker 4: Wallace is a clown or the cop. So let's continue
Speaker 4: with more. Yeah, tamp on, tamp on the other side. Uh,
Speaker 4: we'll go right to the cause you got. Christian Chicago
Speaker 4: has been waiting in thousands of others and if a
Speaker 4: line becomes available eight sixty six six four seven seven
Speaker 4: three three seven later tonight is the attorney for Donald
Speaker 4: Trump talking about the cases and more. Bill Cunningham, the
Speaker 4: Great American. I try to be a great American with
Speaker 4: you and all of the great Americans every Sunday night.
Speaker 4: Billy cunning in the Great American, has promised. You might
Speaker 4: recall last Sunday night I had on a great listener
Speaker 4: of mine from Chicago talking about the preparation for the
Speaker 4: DNC and uh. And now he's calling back with an
Speaker 4: update of what happened, what didn't happen and uh. Chris
Speaker 4: in Chicago. Well, first of all, thanks for calling in
Speaker 4: and give the American people a full report. What is
Speaker 4: Chicago like three or four days after the convention? Bill?
Speaker 5: Well, you know, it really was a story of two
Speaker 5: different realities, one obviously pre and post DNC, and then
Speaker 5: one during it. I think the two things that stood
Speaker 5: out to most people which kind of settled in after
Speaker 5: you realize that the math protests and chaos by the
Speaker 5: Palestinian protesters, the anti Israel protesters weren't going to have
Speaker 5: the effect that many people thought they were going to
Speaker 5: was because of the absolute tremendous and honorable presence of
Speaker 5: the policemen and women of the Chicago's not only Chicago
Speaker 5: Police Department, but others from all over the world. I'm
Speaker 5: sorry the country. You know, we saw in Grant Park
Speaker 5: in the central areas where these organizations were actually given
Speaker 5: permiss at a show of force that is unlike anything
Speaker 5: that we've ever seen up here where there were literally
Speaker 5: one hundreds, if not thousands of police officers in their
Speaker 5: right gear, in their right uniforms, shoulder to shoulder around
Speaker 5: these areas where these protesters were. And the interesting there
Speaker 5: was basically two interesting things that really stood out to everyone.
Speaker 5: One was, you know, you harken back to call the
Speaker 5: BLM riots the George Floyd riots and TIFA think that
Speaker 5: nature and INTIFA was here. Did these cops were empowered
Speaker 5: to do what they're supposed to do. Where if one
Speaker 5: of these rioters got within their space or lunched at them,
Speaker 5: or made a move or did something that they were
Speaker 5: told not to do, you would see for these police
Speaker 5: officers grab them by the neck, grab them by the feet,
Speaker 5: pick them up, take them back behind the line in
Speaker 5: the wall of cops would close and that individual would
Speaker 5: be arrested. Right And just seeing that happen one or
Speaker 5: two times, everybody else knew the protesters knew that the
Speaker 5: cops were not messing around this time.
Speaker 4: So I think what it was. I watched some of
Speaker 4: the news conferences or the chief of police, they said,
Speaker 4: we're gonna nip it in the bud, and there was
Speaker 4: this scene and they had the metal fences up. That's
Speaker 4: a couple of them had breached the metal fence and
Speaker 4: all hell broke loose, and all of a sudden CPD
Speaker 4: was on top of them like red on a rose,
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden they could put the fence
Speaker 4: back together. So the key was to stop it before
Speaker 4: it got underway, with a message being sent There'll be
Speaker 4: harsh consequences for your behavior, and the message went out. Plus,
Speaker 4: there weren't nearly the number it was taught to be
Speaker 4: one hundred thousand, and some of the numbers I heard
Speaker 4: it was like twenty thousand. Is that correct protesters?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it wasn't even close to one hundred thousand.
Speaker 5: And I have to believe that a number of them
Speaker 5: were scared off from even coming there, because when you
Speaker 5: would go downtown around Michigan Avenue, once you got within
Speaker 5: three or four blocks of where the DNC was being
Speaker 5: held or Michigan Avenue, it was unlike anything I've ever
Speaker 5: seen here where there were two cops walking shoulder to
Speaker 5: shoulder on every sidewalk. Every which way you would look.
Speaker 5: There were cop cars with their lights on good every
Speaker 5: four way stop up Michigan Avenue, and this is just
Speaker 5: all things that had never been seen before. And you know,
Speaker 5: people are now shaking their head saying, why don't we
Speaker 5: have this all the time?
Speaker 4: Why don't we do that? For the George Floyd riots,
Speaker 4: for example, and which one hundred American cities were burned,
Speaker 4: forty five people were killed, billions dollars worth of damage.
Speaker 4: And the reason is Tim Waltz and others kind of
Speaker 4: wanted to open up the windows and smell the aroma
Speaker 4: of the riots, of the burning tires and the businesses.
Speaker 4: Is if America, But what if Chicago had this approach
Speaker 4: on a regular basis when the so called George Floyd
Speaker 4: riots took place? Wouldn't there been a different outcome?
Speaker 5: You would certainly think so. And basically here in Chicago,
Speaker 5: there's there's four neighborhoods where the majority of the violence
Speaker 5: takes place. And if you had these two cops walking
Speaker 5: shoulder to shoulder everywhere there, if you had the police
Speaker 5: cruiser presence, I don't think we would see that. And
Speaker 5: the interesting part is the individuals I know, individuals that
Speaker 5: live in those areas or have lived in those areas,
Speaker 5: and people that have they're all saying, don't why haven't
Speaker 5: we had this? That's kind of like the hangover of
Speaker 5: everything now from the DNC that everyone's obviously glad to
Speaker 5: have the KOs out.
Speaker 4: I would imagine if you go into those three or
Speaker 4: four zip codes on the South side of Chicago where
Speaker 4: most of the murderers, drug dealing robberies take place, which
Speaker 4: make it unlivable, if for a thirty six to day
Speaker 4: periods Chicago spent the money necessary to patrol those zip
Speaker 4: codes like they patrolled in and around the DNC, you'd
Speaker 4: have a different outcome. But for some reason, Chicago won't
Speaker 4: do it, and many American cities won't do it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's something that it's the R and
Speaker 5: C the Trump campaign could easily capitalize on by making
Speaker 5: an issue of this and shining a light on it,
Speaker 5: because people here are certainly talking about it now.
Speaker 4: And as we sit here Sunday night, if you would
Speaker 4: drive down Mondyer Tuesday to Michigan Avenue around the water Tower,
Speaker 4: what do you see four or five days after the convention?
Speaker 4: What's commerce like? How safe is it? How much economic
Speaker 4: activity is going on? Well, if you would go down
Speaker 4: Mondyar Tuesday, what would you find.
Speaker 5: Well, I went down Saturday and it was all gone.
Speaker 4: It was all gone.
Speaker 5: There's on Michigan Avenue. Now there's the standard, one top
Speaker 5: car on the north end, one top car on the
Speaker 5: south end. People have returned to the West Loop, which
Speaker 5: is the area around where the DNC is being held
Speaker 5: by the United Center. I'd gone out and had lunch
Speaker 5: there on I think it was Tuesday or Wednesday, and
Speaker 5: the population after these restaurants was probably down to about
Speaker 5: thirty percent. And once all this ended, everybody just came
Speaker 5: back immediately. But again, the two by twos that you
Speaker 5: saw everywhere, the police patrols, all of that gone immediately.
Speaker 4: Well, maybe the Oprah Winfrey draw us a different level
Speaker 4: of protection than some African American women would draw on
Speaker 4: the South side of Chicago. Who makes our community unlivable? Chris,
Speaker 4: thanks for calling back in. I appreciate it. Keep listening,
Speaker 4: and thanks for what you do as a great American. Chris.
Speaker 4: Thank you God blessure. Let's continue with more. Let's go
Speaker 4: to Ken in California. Ken in California, Welcome to the
Speaker 4: Bill Cunningham Show. Ken, How are you?
Speaker 6: Thank you?
Speaker 4: Can you hear me? I can hear you? Well, no,
Speaker 4: hearry quite well.
Speaker 6: Fantastic.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm very concerned about what happened last time when
Speaker 7: the vote kind was shut down for two hours and
Speaker 7: then the tide changed.
Speaker 8: I vow to shut things down.
Speaker 7: For two hours this time.
Speaker 8: If they do shut down the vote count for two
Speaker 8: hours this time, I will not accept the results because
Speaker 8: the media is a known enemy of the Trump campaign
Speaker 8: and Americans deserve a vote count that is not interrupted.
Speaker 7: I mean, unless this is secure, our elections are not secure.
Speaker 4: And you know, Ken, I hear as much from Democrats.
Speaker 4: Remember democrats. Hillary Clinton said that Trump was not a
Speaker 4: legitimate president. Bill Clinton said not legitimate. Most African American
Speaker 4: leadership that don't represent black folks anyway, said that he's
Speaker 4: not a legitimate president and is part and parcel of
Speaker 4: the Democrats not to accept the outcome of elections not
Speaker 4: their way, and so I think both individuals. I have
Speaker 4: little confidence we're going to get an accurate account. The
Speaker 4: states are sadly, Ohio doesn't matter where I live because
Speaker 4: it's Trump country. California doesn't matter because that's that's that
Speaker 4: your state's lost. It's only about six or seven states
Speaker 4: that matter, and that's where the resources have got to
Speaker 4: be spent. And I just hope that in the so
Speaker 4: called three Blue Wall Upper and Midwest states of Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 4: throw in Georgia, North Carolina, Nevada, throw in Arizona, and
Speaker 4: that's going to be the election. And it doesn't take
Speaker 4: that much. According to Lord Trump, they have one hundred
Speaker 4: and fifty thousand poll watchers in those states. You don't
Speaker 4: need pole watchers in California, right. I don't need a
Speaker 4: pole watcher in Ohio. But in California, California's what sex
Speaker 4: electoral votes are already done gone and the only people
Speaker 4: you can vote for a Democrats. Republicans can't get elected
Speaker 4: despite the disaster the California is Do you have confidence,
Speaker 4: Ken that this is going to be an accurate count
Speaker 4: in California or does it matter?
Speaker 7: Well, honest to God, Trump is right when he says
Speaker 7: Kamala is a Marxist communist. And I want to impress
Speaker 7: upon your listeners just how energetic and real this communist
Speaker 7: infiltration into what politics is and has been for decades.
Speaker 7: And our FBI and the CIA and the media are
Speaker 7: all in on it. I mean, George Bush called it
Speaker 7: the new World Order. We are being taken over and
Speaker 7: the reason they hate Trump is because he stands in
Speaker 7: their way. And I want to say one thing. I
Speaker 7: don't think that the Democrats are buying Kamala Harris's pitch
Speaker 7: at that convention. Those placards, they were all given the
Speaker 7: hoole versus Billius trees on the forest, there was no energy,
Speaker 7: and it's becau She's promising to fix what she and
Speaker 7: Joe broke. Who's going to believe that pitch?
Speaker 4: Well, I want to share with you a column about
Speaker 4: how this is out of newsmax dot com. The headline
Speaker 4: is Iran once Trump killed by election day And I
Speaker 4: read this column. The Islamic regime in Iran is trying
Speaker 4: to assassinate former President Donald Trump, with hopes of doing
Speaker 4: so before November fifth, or certainly by the inaugural if
Speaker 4: he wins. Multiple governmental agencies associated with US allies across
Speaker 4: the Middle East have informed of the danger. The Iranian
Speaker 4: regime is made it clear that once get rid of
Speaker 4: Trump by any means necessary. And so when you look
Speaker 4: at what's against Donald Trump, he's got Iran, which is
Speaker 4: a nation with cruise missiles, drone technologies. North Korea loves
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris being in charge, as does Russia, as does China,
Speaker 4: as does NATO, as does most of Europe, as does
Speaker 4: most of the alphabet soup agencies. The leadership, maybe not
Speaker 4: the rank and file, but the forces a raid against
Speaker 4: Donald Trump that won him dead are unbelievable. And I've
Speaker 4: seen reports of rider trucks fifteen miles from a place
Speaker 4: where Donald Trump is loaded with Iranian drones that they
Speaker 4: can send dozens toward Donald Trump, and there's not much
Speaker 4: anybody can do to stop it. And I'm thinking, are
Speaker 4: you kidding me?
Speaker 6: A thing?
Speaker 4: The answer is not a thing I noticed.
Speaker 7: Go, yeah, that's another thing.
Speaker 6: I noticed.
Speaker 7: His bulletproof shield is not enough because you can still
Speaker 7: get drones through and get made through. Sure, even the
Speaker 7: platform needs to be protected. And if you realize there's
Speaker 7: been a cover up on this assassination attempt, Crooks allegedly
Speaker 7: was visiting DC several times in a building next to
Speaker 7: the FBI office in the weeks before it happened, and
Speaker 7: you only heard that report once on TV and then
Speaker 7: it was shut up. So I think Joe Biden was
Speaker 7: behind that attempt, and most of Americans do think with Joel.
Speaker 4: Well, how about a nineteen year old loser living literally
Speaker 4: in his parents' basement that has encrypted accounts in at
Speaker 4: least three foreign countries. I don't know. I don't have
Speaker 4: encrypted accounts. I don't think you do. But can you
Speaker 4: imagine a nineteen year old with encrypted accounts in three
Speaker 4: overseas nations? Why and they can't crack the code? I
Speaker 4: like to know who he communicated with, who paid him,
Speaker 4: and how did he get to that site? Why did
Speaker 4: the Secret Service all of a sudden go amnesia, and
Speaker 4: why they lie to the Butler County officials backwards and forwards?
Speaker 4: And they knew he was there, and they almost opened
Speaker 4: up a door for him to walk in to shoot
Speaker 4: Donald Trump, and except for a half an inch, he'd
Speaker 4: be dead. And now you got Iran telling the world
Speaker 4: we're going to kill Donald Trump. And it's like, are
Speaker 4: you kidding me? And no, And if you have an
Speaker 4: RPG or a drone, that's not going to protect Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: But like he says, you know, it's almost fedalistic. He said,
Speaker 4: it's my job to campaign, and I can't stop campaigning
Speaker 4: even though I have Secret Service protection. He says, is
Speaker 4: now as good as Biden's Secret Service protection. I doubt that,
Speaker 4: by the way, but nonetheless I think he's in mortal danger.
Speaker 4: And I don't know what to say about it other
Speaker 4: than well, you're in mortal danger. And the guy fight, fight, fight,
Speaker 4: keeps on keeping on. Let's continue. We have thousands on
Speaker 4: hold coming up later, a couple of topics in the
Speaker 4: Middle East. One of the ones I'm looking forward to
Speaker 4: is interviewing Seth Frontzman wrote the defendive work on October
Speaker 4: the seventh, the massacre. We're going to try to connect
Speaker 4: with him. He's in Israel, and we have the number
Speaker 4: also later on as Will Scarf, who is the personal
Speaker 4: attorney for Donald Trump, where the cases now stand, and
Speaker 4: also Pastor Mark Built from the state of Washington, and more.
Speaker 4: And I thought tonight, I pray to God I'm wrong
Speaker 4: about this, but the goal of the Islamic's extremists is
Speaker 4: simply to bleed Israel to death over time. Let it collapse.
Speaker 4: When Israel's got the ability now to take out the
Speaker 4: head of the snake and refuses to do so because
Speaker 4: it would anger Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, Let's continue
Speaker 4: with more. Forty nine minutes after the hour, Bill Cunningham
Speaker 4: the Great American with you every Sunday night. And you know,
Speaker 4: kind of an unrelated matter. A few days ago, I
Speaker 4: spoke to my friend and your Sean Hannity about what's
Speaker 4: happening in England, what's happening in Europe relative to free speech.
Speaker 4: And as you know, there's no First Amendment guarantee of
Speaker 4: free speech in England, in Scotland, in Ireland, or in Europe.
Speaker 4: They've begun arresting individuals who say things that the federal
Speaker 4: allies in each country consider to be quote, hate speech.
Speaker 4: And now many are calling for the arrest of Elon Musk,
Speaker 4: as well as the cancel of X, a social media
Speaker 4: site that he owns, because there may be individuals on
Speaker 4: X who say things that could be determined to be
Speaker 4: a hate speech or calling into question someone's political viewpoints,
Speaker 4: which is not protected whatsoever in England or in Europe.
Speaker 4: And of course this broadcast is heard in Europe, and
Speaker 4: what's happening on X can be seen and heard in
Speaker 4: Europe individuals who travel there. There's a hit list in
Speaker 4: Europe of Americans who may come there or may not
Speaker 4: have to come there to be arrested. They may ask
Speaker 4: for the arrest of Sean Hannity for saying things he
Speaker 4: should not be saying. Maybe my arrest or maybe the
Speaker 4: arrest of Chris Cuomo or other individuals whose shows can
Speaker 4: be heard through the Internet of information that could be
Speaker 4: considered hate speech against an Islamist. Things came to a
Speaker 4: head when the three little girl were murdered at Taylor
Speaker 4: Swift themed dance on July twenty ninth in Southport, England,
Speaker 4: and many thereafter when after Islamic terrorists. Don't see anything
Speaker 4: bad against an Islamic terrorist, and if you do, you're
Speaker 4: subject to arrest. One person was sentenced to three years
Speaker 4: in English prisons for calling Islamic terrorists blood thirsty murderers.
Speaker 4: I guess I just did some, not all. Most in
Speaker 4: America do not hold the views of the leadership in Iran.
Speaker 4: They hold the views of the leadership in Saudi Arabia,
Speaker 4: which is more or less a functioning part of the
Speaker 4: Middle East, unlike the Hespalah in Lebanon, or the Hamas
Speaker 4: in Gaza, or the Isis in Syria and Iraq, and
Speaker 4: the Islamic leadership of Iran which want to take the
Speaker 4: world back to the seventh century. And so when one travels.
Speaker 4: You have to be aware of where you're going. And
Speaker 4: the left leaning media in political intelligentsia and most of
Speaker 4: Europe claimed that the unrest was caused by quote right
Speaker 4: wing activist using social media to miss him to spread
Speaker 4: misinformation about the knife attack. And there was another knife
Speaker 4: attack yesterday. Maybe you're going to call for knife control,
Speaker 4: maybe a three day waiting period before you get a knife.
Speaker 4: But fore warned is forearmed. This is unbelievable. I think
Speaker 4: to an extent Europe might be lost and America cannot
Speaker 4: follow that path. Let's continue with more. Coming up later
Speaker 4: will be Pastor Mark Built of the State of Washington,
Speaker 4: and also the attorney for Donald Trump, Will Scarf, talking
Speaker 4: about the various cases against him, and also Seth Frontzman
Speaker 4: live from Israel to talk about the October seventh massacre.
Speaker 4: Bill cunning and the Great American with you and all
Speaker 4: other great Americans every Sunday.
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Speaker 4: Bill Cunning in the Grand American. Of course, what's happening
Speaker 4: in the Middle East is the tale that wigs the
Speaker 4: entire dog. The world is consumed with the Middle East,
Speaker 4: and it's the side of the only participatory democracy in
Speaker 4: the Middle East, which is Israel. They're fighting for the
Speaker 4: literal existence. I've read stuff out of the Middle East.
Speaker 4: It seems to indicate that the peace treaty will not
Speaker 4: be accepted by Hamas because Hamas wants war. Hamas does
Speaker 4: not want peace. If Moss has peats that it gets
Speaker 4: read of their purpose to exist, which is to kill
Speaker 4: Jews and kill Westerners. And one of the great secrets
Speaker 4: of the Middle East is that there's a large chunk
Speaker 4: of it that wants Iran to completely go away. In MBS,
Speaker 4: who is the leader now of Saudi Arabia and the
Speaker 4: head of the Sunni branch of Islam is one individual
Speaker 4: that wants the existence of Iran to be wiped off
Speaker 4: the face of the earth. And what's happening there God
Speaker 4: only knows. But Pastor Mark Bilts from the State of
Speaker 4: Washington has a column up about the pursuit of the
Speaker 4: Grand Bargain with the US and Israel and what's going
Speaker 4: to happen now and in the future. And Mark Bilts,
Speaker 4: welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Mark, I
Speaker 4: have your column in front of me here. Can you
Speaker 4: give me an overview of what you see and how
Speaker 4: possibly the assassination of the leader of Saudi Arabia may
Speaker 4: play into all of it?
Speaker 9: Well, what people be to understand in Islam there are
Speaker 9: basically two factions, the Sunnies and the Sheites.
Speaker 6: The shea Heites are.
Speaker 9: Like direct this of Mohammad, whereas the Sunnis are descendants
Speaker 9: from his military as generals, and Iran is Khite in
Speaker 9: Saudi Arabia are suns. So you know, in one sense
Speaker 9: they've always agreed to kill Israel, but when they're done,
Speaker 9: they kill each other. They can't stay with each other,
Speaker 9: and this is why the Kihites want to kill Uh.
Speaker 9: You know, maybe yes, but the thing is this, It's
Speaker 9: also we have to understand radical Islam and how that's
Speaker 9: different from normal Islam as well.
Speaker 4: Correct And on that point, I often make the point
Speaker 4: that in America, as far as American Muslims, I cannot
Speaker 4: recall any significant terrorist acts committed by American Muslims inside
Speaker 4: of America who've been here for a long time. I
Speaker 4: live in Little Cincinnati, Ohio. You're in the state of Washington.
Speaker 4: There's a couple hundred thousand Muslim Islamists that live within
Speaker 4: the sound of my voice in the Midwest. They go
Speaker 4: to school, they form family structures, they participate. And so
Speaker 4: this is about generally the shiahs in Iran. And can
Speaker 4: you imagine your your religious leader, Reverend Mark Bilts, that
Speaker 4: that if you would preach it is time to kill
Speaker 4: the infidel, it is time to rape the infidel, it
Speaker 4: is time to behead the infidel. And that is a
Speaker 4: branch of Islam that we find hard to believe it exists,
Speaker 4: but it's taken over a chunk of the world. So
Speaker 4: what is the goal? Look, you brought this up briefly.
Speaker 4: What is the goal of Iran ultimately? And you might
Speaker 4: include in that Siria might include the other shiah maybe
Speaker 4: Iran Iraq. What is their goal ultimately relative to Israel
Speaker 4: and the West. What is their goal?
Speaker 9: Well, they want to bring in their Mahdi or their Messiah,
Speaker 9: and they believe that he comes when they take upon
Speaker 9: the responsibility of wiping out Israel. What makes the radical
Speaker 9: radical a century of goal, Islam was very submissive. But
Speaker 9: what happened and what makes the radical radical was that.
Speaker 6: While normal Islam said everything's.
Speaker 9: Up to Allah, and therefore if the colonialists are wiping
Speaker 9: us out, then we need to submit.
Speaker 6: But the radicalist said, no, it's not up to Allah.
Speaker 6: It's up to us.
Speaker 9: And that is why they even killed Saddat Okay of Egypt,
Speaker 9: and that's why they're going after the head of Saudi
Speaker 9: Arabia because they believe if anyone is secular, even with Islam,
Speaker 9: they need to.
Speaker 6: Be wiped out.
Speaker 9: And so their ultimate goal, and that's what people need
Speaker 9: to understand is jihad in order to bring in their Messiah.
Speaker 4: And going back to anwar Sadat, he signed a peace
Speaker 4: treaty with with Israel, and the Jews knock and began
Speaker 4: he was wine dined in pocket line. Okay, we finally
Speaker 4: have peace in the Middle East, and the Shia that
Speaker 4: the branch of Islam does not want peace. They will
Speaker 4: not accept peace, and so they sent a hit squad
Speaker 4: during a military parade in Cairo to kill nwar Sadat
Speaker 4: quite successful and the country almost turned the radical Islam
Speaker 4: but did not. And so long term, and I'm going
Speaker 4: to get you because you're a great historian on this regard,
Speaker 4: I don't think Iran is going to directly confront Israel
Speaker 4: to such an extent that would cause a massive response.
Speaker 4: I think what they want to do over the next five, ten, fifteen,
Speaker 4: twenty years is simply bleed Israel dry, to make sure
Speaker 4: they do not have funding, they don't have an economy,
Speaker 4: and then slowly but surely incrementally kill the Jew Do
Speaker 4: you see it that way? Or do they want to
Speaker 4: directly attack Israel that would invoke a huge response.
Speaker 6: What do you say, Mark, I say they're waiting for
Speaker 6: a nuclear bomb. That's what they're waiting on. So they
Speaker 6: don't want to be attacked right now at all.
Speaker 9: Like you said, they definitely are waiting. I read an
Speaker 9: article where they're worried that Hesbela may attack not being
Speaker 9: under their authority or direction. Right so there, you know,
Speaker 9: and what says they want to wipe is all off
Speaker 9: the map.
Speaker 6: But they always played the long game. They always do,
Speaker 6: Like you said, they always play the long game.
Speaker 9: But once they have a nuclear capability, that'll make a
Speaker 9: big difference. What the audience needs to understand is the
Speaker 9: three stages of g hod among the radical Islamists. The
Speaker 9: first stage is the ghart of the hand.
Speaker 6: Go and cut the head off the Infidel.
Speaker 9: If they can't do that because they're not as strong
Speaker 9: as the Infidel, you know, the next thing they do
Speaker 9: is ghart of the mouth, where they preach.
Speaker 6: It like you see protests, They protest and do all
Speaker 6: this kind of thing to stir up everybody.
Speaker 9: And if they can't do the Ght of the mouth,
Speaker 9: they do the Ght of the heart, where they go
Speaker 9: and plan like they plan for nine to eleven. They get,
Speaker 9: they assimilate, and they study, they go to Western universities,
Speaker 9: they learn everything they can, and then as soon as
Speaker 9: they're ready, like nine to eleven, then they go to
Speaker 9: Jihat of the hand again.
Speaker 6: And I believe we really.
Speaker 9: Are right now about at the Jihat of the hand
Speaker 9: here in the United States, and we're going to see
Speaker 9: terrorist attacks right here.
Speaker 4: Well, much like nine to eleven. It crystallized it. And
Speaker 4: looking at this long term Israel under the leadership of
Speaker 4: the current leader, and that's the strongest one they've had
Speaker 4: in a long time, and that is he wants to respond.
Speaker 4: The Prime Minister now of Israel says he wants to
Speaker 4: do three things, which makes a lot of sense. And
Speaker 4: Netanyahu has told the Cabinet. According to US senator who's
Speaker 4: whispered in my ear, he wants to do three things.
Speaker 4: Number One, he wants to take out the three oil
Speaker 4: exporting export facilities in Iran, which would take out their
Speaker 4: economy and they couldn't rebuild those things with conventional weapons
Speaker 4: for many years. Secondly, there are two large dams north
Speaker 4: of Tehran that controls the water system for most of Iran.
Speaker 4: He wants to blow up the dam. And Thirdly, he
Speaker 4: wants to take out the power grid to take Iran
Speaker 4: almost back to the Middle Ages, and he wants to
Speaker 4: demonstrate Israeli power Refort's too late. He's been restrained in
Speaker 4: doing that by Joe Biden, who's got early onset rigamortis,
Speaker 4: and he doesn't he doesn't allow Israel to win the war.
Speaker 4: They have a war against them starting October seventh that
Speaker 4: could take away their existence. And right now NETANYAHUO understands
Speaker 4: that he wants to respond with that. From your perspective,
Speaker 4: that would go to the head of the snake that
Speaker 4: funds hesbla Hamas, the Hoodies and the two D's and
Speaker 4: funds of the Islamic extremists. Well, is that an approach
Speaker 4: that should happen, should happen with or without Joe Biden's
Speaker 4: permission before it's too late.
Speaker 6: Absolutely? Absolutely.
Speaker 9: I don't think Israel should have America's permission or anything
Speaker 9: when it comes to.
Speaker 6: Their livelihood at all.
Speaker 9: And I think those three things would be the best
Speaker 9: three things, and they could do it preemptively as well.
Speaker 4: Well, he wants to, but he's told if I America
Speaker 4: not to do it. And one can only imagine if
Speaker 4: this election goes to the radical leftists from the state
Speaker 4: of California. I can only imagine if Kamala Harris is
Speaker 4: elected to the presidency and she's got a four to
Speaker 4: eight year run, what does that mean for the nation
Speaker 4: of Israel.
Speaker 9: Total destructure in for America as well. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 9: I'm just going to put out a little bet here,
Speaker 9: but I would not be surprised if after this convention,
Speaker 9: within a few weeks, they make Kamla president and move
Speaker 9: Biden out, so she has a little bit a month
Speaker 9: or so of being a president and Trump has to
Speaker 9: go against her as an incumbent.
Speaker 4: I've said that recently that his appearance of the DNC
Speaker 4: was so bad, yelling and screaming. I'm sure it was
Speaker 4: late at night. You probably didn't see it, but it
Speaker 4: was so bad that that guy is unhinged, and the
Speaker 4: idea I don't think it'll happen unless in September October,
Speaker 4: after the September debate. If she loses that debate appears
Speaker 4: to be a clown, which of course she is, there'll
Speaker 4: be a movement in a week or two thereafter to
Speaker 4: have under the twenty fifth Amendment of Joe Biden's stepped
Speaker 4: down now and put Kamala Harrison there making address in
Speaker 4: the Oval office. Do a couple of things right to
Speaker 4: take down Donald Trump, who's the only presidential president's candidate
Speaker 4: in history that has Jewey's grandchildren. And so I agree
Speaker 4: with you Mark Bilts, that could easily happen because they
Speaker 4: cannot let Donald Trump become the president. In fact, I
Speaker 4: read a story out of the New York Times recently
Speaker 4: in which they said all of Europe and China, and
Speaker 4: all of North Korea and all of the Middle East,
Speaker 4: and of course most of most of South America does
Speaker 4: not want Donald Trump to be the president. His policies
Speaker 4: on the border is not favored by Central or South America.
Speaker 4: Is economic policies are not favored by China. And I
Speaker 4: would point out that that the report out of the
Speaker 4: House Impeachment Committee said that the Bidens received twenty million
Speaker 4: dollars from wire transfers from Chinese interest, part of which
Speaker 4: went to Joe Biden. Now that was lost in the
Speaker 4: last few days of all the stuff going on with
Speaker 4: the convention, et cetera. But we had a report that
Speaker 4: indicated that Joe Biden is dirty, that he's received millions
Speaker 4: and millions of dollars directly and then directly from the Chinese.
Speaker 4: The Chinese want Kamala Harris Harris, the Russians want Kamala Harris,
Speaker 4: NATO wants Kamala Harris, Central and South America wants Kamala Harris,
Speaker 4: the news media wants Kamala Harris, and then none of
Speaker 4: them want Donald Trump. I fear another assassination attempt against
Speaker 4: Donald Trump. It's amazing the first one didn't work. Do
Speaker 4: you fear for the health of Donald Trump over the
Speaker 4: next several weeks.
Speaker 9: Oh, I will certainly do and I would not be
Speaker 9: surprised if it shows in the polls Trump is gonna
Speaker 9: win by a landslide. They definitely will try to assassinate him,
Speaker 9: or they.
Speaker 10: Will have another COVID experience or plague or something happening,
Speaker 10: so there isn't an election, and that I believe is
Speaker 10: going to cause total chaos because if there is no
Speaker 10: election or they're mail in ballots and total fraud, you
Speaker 10: know it will be civil war here in the United States.
Speaker 4: And lastly, you have this column about MBS, who controls
Speaker 4: Saudi Arabia, and you have a question here, what were
Speaker 4: the relations like between Saudi Arabia and Iran the head
Speaker 4: of the Snake before MBS took over, and what is
Speaker 4: it now? So tell the American people about that.
Speaker 9: Well, before they couldn't stand Saudi Arabia because they were
Speaker 9: Sunni and they were sea I. But since he took over,
Speaker 9: now he is secular more than Islamic, just.
Speaker 6: Like Sadat, and he wants to make peace with Israel.
Speaker 11: This is huge.
Speaker 6: This is why they definitely want to take him out.
Speaker 6: He's trying to build that city neo and get all
Speaker 6: kinds of visitors to come, and he's.
Speaker 9: Making it as far as they're concerned, more pagan and
Speaker 9: so now they definitely want to take out Saudi Arabia
Speaker 9: because at the same time they want their Messiah to
Speaker 9: come and they believe they bring them by bringing total destruction.
Speaker 4: So really Iran and that she has want to do
Speaker 4: to MBS the same they did to Anwar Sadat, which
Speaker 4: is kill him because they perceive and really they care
Speaker 4: more about Saudi Arabia than Egypt because that's the side
Speaker 4: of Mecca and Medina and those are the holyest sites
Speaker 4: in Islam and they think NBS has defiled the most
Speaker 4: sacred sites of Islam.
Speaker 9: Correct, exactly, exactly, and they want to make peace with Israel.
Speaker 4: What could be worse, Well, they were close until October
Speaker 4: the seventh. I mean, that was something that Trumpster wanted
Speaker 4: and he had a deal on the table to mainstream
Speaker 4: relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia, cut her United Arab Membirates,
Speaker 4: et cetera. And that is something Iran. It's amazing to
Speaker 4: me that all these forces are a raid against Donald
Speaker 4: Trump and he's still leading a lot of the polls.
Speaker 4: And Iran came to life after Barack Hussein Obama took
Speaker 4: off the sanctions and allowed them to develop nuclear weapons.
Speaker 4: And then Trump took over for those four years, and
Speaker 4: that was a speed bump to Iran. And now we're back.
Speaker 4: If Kamala Harris wins the presidency, that means Iran will
Speaker 4: once again be in charge. But Mark Bilts, how can
Speaker 4: the American people get some information about you? Is there
Speaker 4: a website?
Speaker 9: Our website ESM dot us, and I have a books
Speaker 9: talking about what we're talking about out.
Speaker 6: My latest book is America at War.
Speaker 9: You can get it on Amazon or at our website
Speaker 9: ESM dot us.
Speaker 4: And as you say, we have all the terrorists inside
Speaker 4: this country. We have hundreds of known terrorists released by
Speaker 4: Biden and Harris into the country. They're all over the
Speaker 4: place waiting to march, and they may wait until after
Speaker 4: the election because they may figure politically if America is
Speaker 4: in complete turmoil, well, because the policies of Kamala Harris
Speaker 4: that they may vote for Donald Trump. And Iran does
Speaker 4: not want Donald Trump. Russia doesn't want Donald Trump, China
Speaker 4: doesn't want Donald Trump. The NATO Alliance is none of
Speaker 4: those countries that they like a left wing socialist. They
Speaker 4: don't want Donald Trump. So they may wait until after
Speaker 4: the election, because it happens before the election, wouldn't it
Speaker 4: benefit Donald Trump?
Speaker 9: Well, I think what may happen in all of the
Speaker 9: chaos if we don't have an election, That's when China
Speaker 9: would attack Taiwan. That's when North Korea would attack South Korea,
Speaker 9: has Below would attack Israel. And there's no way the
Speaker 9: United States could take all of that on with Ukraine
Speaker 9: and Russia situation, and it will be total chaos.
Speaker 4: Well, all right, Mark built Biltz from the state of Washington.
Speaker 4: Once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show,
Speaker 4: and Reverend we'll do it again. Thank you very much.
Speaker 6: Well, thank you, Bill.
Speaker 4: All right, let's continue with more The Great American with
Speaker 4: you every Sunday night. You know the routine. All if
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Speaker 4: Of course, Mark Biltz knows the bodies are buried, so
Speaker 4: to speak. Israel's in a terrible position tonight as they
Speaker 4: were twenty four hours ago. It looked as if it
Speaker 4: was on between Hesbelah and Israel. There were some two
Speaker 4: hundred rockets, guided missiles and other armaments sent from Hesbela
Speaker 4: in the northern Israel and beyond the Hafa and guess
Speaker 4: what ninety five percent were taken out. One can only
Speaker 4: imagine if they had sent something in the range of
Speaker 4: twenty thousand or one hundred thousand, what would have occurred.
Speaker 4: Probably not good. And once again Israel showed great restraint.
Speaker 4: I could not imagine any other country facing for the
Speaker 4: past almost one year a terrible war conducted by bloodthirsty
Speaker 4: killers and murderers on the north, the South and the east,
Speaker 4: and refraining themselves from adequately responding and ending the war
Speaker 4: in their favor. No other country except Israel could do it.
Speaker 4: Israel's the only country in the face of the earth
Speaker 4: has not permitted to win a war you can't win
Speaker 4: because the forces in America and in Europe will work
Speaker 4: hard to make sure you don't win. And then thirty
Speaker 4: little secret is that most of the Arab war that
Speaker 4: are Sunnis, like Saudi Arabia, cutter United Arab Emirates, would
Speaker 4: like an end of Iran and their policies of hate.
Speaker 4: Look what Hesbelah has done in Lebanon, beag Root used
Speaker 4: to be the Paris of the Middle East, of functioning
Speaker 4: more or less democracy with a middle class. Now Hesbela
Speaker 4: has completely destroyed Levin, it doesn't exist anymore. In the South,
Speaker 4: of course, the Hoodies have destroyed Yemen, and of course
Speaker 4: Hamas has destroyed the Gaza's strip completely. And in Afghanistan
Speaker 4: once again extreme Islamist the Taliban have destroyed Afghanistan. And
Speaker 4: in fact, everywhere I look, Iran has been destroyed by
Speaker 4: the Shia mullahs her bloodthirsty murderers. Everywhere this corrosive atmosphere exists.
Speaker 4: The country doesn't exist anymore. It's reverting back to the
Speaker 4: seventh or eighth century and United Air memorates and Cutter
Speaker 4: and Saudi Arabia would like Israel to launch on Iran
Speaker 4: to the head of the snake, but for reasons unclear
Speaker 4: to many, it does not happen. It does not occur.
Speaker 4: So we'll see what happens down the road. But the
Speaker 4: only way to have this matter resolved, to have it
Speaker 4: resolved in the matter of Israel, is to take out,
Speaker 4: through non nuclear means, the important aspects of the Iranian
Speaker 4: economy and tell them that's it. Anymore. It'll get worse
Speaker 4: enough better, so let's stay tuned for more. Will Sharf
Speaker 4: is the private attorney for Donald Trump. He was the
Speaker 4: winner before the US Supreme Court a couple of months ago,
Speaker 4: and I thought it'd be good to have on Donald
Speaker 4: Trump's attorney to talk about the various buckets in which
Speaker 4: Donald Trump may find himself once he's elected to the presidency.
Speaker 4: The line becomes available eight sixty six six four seven
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Speaker 4: with you, every single Bill cunning in the Great America.
Speaker 4: And one of Donald Trump's great personal civil slash criminal
Speaker 4: attorneys is Will Scarf. He's been out it for many
Speaker 4: years and I've seen him in many of the cable
Speaker 4: shows and honor to have him with us now. And
Speaker 4: Will Scarf, welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. Let's talk
Speaker 4: first of all about these allegations that the Supreme Court
Speaker 4: decision about a month or so ago would allow any
Speaker 4: president to act in a criminal, reckless fashion without consequence.
Speaker 4: Can you give us an overview of the three buckets?
Speaker 4: So to speak? The US Supreme Court said, in which
Speaker 4: your president's operates with absolute immunity or presumptive immunity or
Speaker 4: no immunity, Please inform the American people.
Speaker 5: Sure.
Speaker 11: So it's important to understand the backdrop of the Supreme
Speaker 11: Court's presidential immunity opinion, which is a case from nineteen
Speaker 11: eighty two to nineteen eighty three called Nixon v.
Speaker 6: Fitzgerald.
Speaker 11: In that case, the Court said that in the civil context,
Speaker 11: a president has absolute immunity from civil suit for any
Speaker 11: act that fall within the outer perimeter of his responsibilities
Speaker 11: as president. That's to ensure that after a president leaves off,
Speaker 11: as private parties can't just sue a president over decisions
Speaker 11: that he made that they may not have liked. That's
Speaker 11: been the law for decades. All we were really asking
Speaker 11: the Supreme Court to do in Trump the United States
Speaker 11: was to apply a similar standard in the criminal context.
Speaker 11: For obvious reasons, you can't end up with a situation
Speaker 11: where the day any president leaves office, any hostile prosecutor
Speaker 11: can attempt to indict him over his official acts in office.
Speaker 11: And the Supreme Court largely agreed with us. So, as
Speaker 11: you said, they separated a president's conduct into three different buckets.
Speaker 11: First for purely private conduct, for acts that a president
Speaker 11: takes that really have nothing to do with his status
Speaker 11: as president.
Speaker 6: The Court held that there's no immunity at all.
Speaker 11: So one historical example of that that actually came up
Speaker 11: during briefing is the fact that Ulysses S. Grant was
Speaker 11: ticketed while he was president for illegally carriage racing in Washington, DC.
Speaker 11: So in that it's sort of like the drag racing
Speaker 11: of the eighteen hundreds. In that case that purely private conduct,
Speaker 11: immunity doesn't apply. A president would be susceptible to prosecution
Speaker 11: for that the day that he leaves office. The at
Speaker 11: the absolute core of presidential power in in areas where
Speaker 11: a president's authority is not checkable by Congress, where a
Speaker 11: president has absolute authority under the Constitution. In contrast, the
Speaker 11: Supreme Court said that a president has absolute immunity. So
Speaker 11: an example of that would be the this is raised
Speaker 11: in the Supreme Court's opinion, a president's power to appoint
Speaker 11: or dismiss office office.
Speaker 5: Holders that that that serve at his pleasure.
Speaker 11: That's the core constitutional function of the presidency. Absolute immunity
Speaker 11: applies with respect to to the sort of the middle
Speaker 11: category of activities. Then, that's activities that fall within the
Speaker 11: outer perimeter of a president's responsibilities but aren't within that
Speaker 11: core inalienable article to presidential power bucket. The Court said
Speaker 11: that there's a presumption of immunity, that there's a rebuttable
Speaker 11: presumption that a president has immunity, but that that presumption
Speaker 11: can be rebutted if you show that the president acted
Speaker 11: so far outside the scope of his presidential duties that
Speaker 11: these really weren't presidential acts. So that's the system that
Speaker 11: the Supreme Courts set up, and it's actually a very
Speaker 11: carefully balanced system that we were very happy with and
Speaker 11: that I believe will do a lot both to protect
Speaker 11: the power of the presidency and the institution of the
Speaker 11: presidency in the years ahead, and also just clarify the
Speaker 11: law around when and how a president can be held
Speaker 11: criminally responsible for his various acts while he's in office.
Speaker 4: So if a president, say Joe Biden, orders that withdraw
Speaker 4: from Afghanistan and thirteen brave American soldiers are killed or
Speaker 4: murdered by suicide bombers, that is a core constitutional responsibility
Speaker 4: as commander in chief. So even if Joe Biden might
Speaker 4: be criminally negligent or recklessly negligent for his behavior, he
Speaker 4: can't be prosecuted while in office or after leaving office.
Speaker 4: On the other hand, if Joe Biden or the next
Speaker 4: president would sneak out of the office at nine and
Speaker 4: rob a bank, that is not a core duty, that
Speaker 4: is not presumed, that is something completely outside, he can
Speaker 4: be criminally prosecuted after he leaves office. The second bucket
Speaker 4: is presumed rebuttable. So in the criminal cases involving Jack Smith,
Speaker 4: he's got one in DC, which relates to January the sixth,
Speaker 4: He's got one in Florida relating to mar A Lago.
Speaker 4: And I would assume if it's a federal cases, then
Speaker 4: one must have a hearing to determine whether or not
Speaker 4: pre trial, which even is is admissible, and which even
Speaker 4: is not admissible, And then the three buckets must be
Speaker 4: pulled out and saying okay, and mar Lago, it's a
Speaker 4: core presidential responsibility in the Presidential Records Act to do
Speaker 4: and not do certain things. And I would think in
Speaker 4: mar Lago and in the Washington, DC case, even though Chunkin,
Speaker 4: the judge in Washington seems to want to proceed quickly,
Speaker 4: must she have an evidence You're hearing to determine what
Speaker 4: witnesses can testify and which witnesses cannot testify, and what
Speaker 4: that tank both cases.
Speaker 11: So, first of all, Mar a Lago the documents case
Speaker 11: has now been dismissed on the grounds that jack Smith
Speaker 11: is unconstitutionally appointed and funded. Jack Smith's going to appeal
Speaker 11: that up to the Eleventh Circuit. That process is going
Speaker 11: to take a while. But those constitutional issues with Jacksmith's
Speaker 11: appointment are very serious, and Justice Thomas actually raised those
Speaker 11: in his concurrence in our presidential immunity case. With respect
Speaker 11: to DC. The Supreme Court's actually very clear here, and
Speaker 11: this is something that caught kind of the mainstream media
Speaker 11: by surprise, although we always anticipated it would be a
Speaker 11: major issue. The Supreme Court said that even in a
Speaker 11: prosecution for non immune conduct, So even if you're attempting
Speaker 11: to prosecute a president for his private conduct, you cannot
Speaker 11: use as evidence immune acts acts for which a president
Speaker 11: has immunity. So in DC, even though jack Smith may
Speaker 11: argue that this was private conduct not official conduct, that
Speaker 11: doesn't mean that he can use evidence of official conduct.
Speaker 5: To support his case.
Speaker 12: So the Supreme Court, for.
Speaker 11: Example, said that President Trump considering replacing the leadership at
Speaker 11: the Department of Justice to investigate election fraud or ordering
Speaker 11: the Department of Justice to investigate election fraud. That would
Speaker 11: be conduct for which he's absolutely immune, and therefore that
Speaker 11: conduct can't form part of Jack Smith's case in DC. Similarly,
Speaker 11: public statements that the President made other acts that underlie
Speaker 11: that DC indictment, the Supreme Court said or subject to
Speaker 11: presumptive immunity, and therefore they cannot be used as evidence
Speaker 11: in that DC prosecution all going to have to get
Speaker 11: worked out by Judge Chuckkin before this case proceeds to trial,
Speaker 11: and the timeline for that.
Speaker 6: Seems to continue to elongate.
Speaker 4: We were expecting, yeah, five twenty six, who knows a
Speaker 4: long time.
Speaker 11: We were expecting a hearing, at least an initial hearing
Speaker 11: in the middle of this month that's now been pushed off.
Speaker 11: I think DOJ is very confused as to how to
Speaker 11: proceed here. And certainly, if President Trump wins in November,
Speaker 11: which I believe he will, by the time he takes
Speaker 11: office in January, this case will not have been anywhere
Speaker 11: close to trial, will not even be near that stage.
Speaker 4: One of Trump's attorney's roll scarf. Let's move on to
Speaker 4: Judge one Mrshawn who's held been and sentencing the President,
Speaker 4: I think to prison, and the motions have been filed
Speaker 4: to dismiss the case and to accuse himself because Judge
Speaker 4: Marshawn's daughter has made tens of millions of dollars and
Speaker 4: trolling around liberal donors to donate to various Democratic candidates.
Speaker 4: But nonetheless, there were several witnesses who worked in the
Speaker 4: White House with the President that testified in the state
Speaker 4: case involving Judge Murshon. Wouldn't their testimony necessarily need to
Speaker 4: be excluded? And how can you proceed to sentencing when
Speaker 4: the trial itself is so tainted.
Speaker 11: So this is an argument that we now have before
Speaker 11: Judge Murshon, and it's important to understand the context. We
Speaker 11: knew that the presidential immunity issue was before the Supreme
Speaker 11: Court long before this New York case came to trial.
Speaker 11: In fact, oral argument in DC was conducted while trial
Speaker 11: was ongoing in New York.
Speaker 12: We'd asked for this.
Speaker 11: Case to be continued, to be pushed off until we
Speaker 11: knew what the Supreme Court was going to do on
Speaker 11: presidential immunity. The District Attorney's office and the judge in
Speaker 11: New York, Judge Marshon rejected that attempt, and now they've
Speaker 11: created a real pickle for themselves because introduced that trial
Speaker 11: evidence that is clearly presidential conduct that is clearly subject
Speaker 11: to the Supreme Court's presidential immunity opinion, and unwinding that
Speaker 11: unringing that bell, as we believe now essentially impossible, we've
Speaker 11: moved to essentially overturn this whole case, the whole verdict here,
Speaker 11: the trial verdict on the basis of presidential immunity that
Speaker 11: they relied on evidence that they simply couldn't.
Speaker 4: Have relied on.
Speaker 11: But it's just important to note that the thing that
Speaker 11: created this problem for them was their haste and the
Speaker 11: fact that they desperately wanted to get this case to
Speaker 11: trial as quickly as possible, I believe for political reasons.
Speaker 11: So now that's an issue that's going to be litigated
Speaker 11: in front of Judge Murcham. Typically, decisions on immunity are
Speaker 11: immediately appealable, so I would argue that if Judge murchaon
Speaker 11: rules against this on immunity, we would have the right
Speaker 11: to appeal that decision potentially all the way up to
Speaker 11: the US Supreme Court before sentencing an before a final
Speaker 11: judgment could be entered in that case. That's an issue
Speaker 11: we're going to have to litigate in the coming weeks.
Speaker 11: The key dates to remember are September sixteenth, which is
Speaker 11: when we're expecting a ruling from judgementshon on this immunity issue,
Speaker 11: and then September eighteenth, which is the scheduled sentencing date,
Speaker 11: although September eighteenth may end up getting pushed off. If
Speaker 11: we succeed at all on this immunity issue.
Speaker 4: You have to exhaust your state remedy. So on that issue,
Speaker 4: you have to go to the district and you have
Speaker 4: to go from the trial court to the first appela Court,
Speaker 4: then to the so called Supreme Court in New York,
Speaker 4: which is called the Court of Appeals. Then you've got
Speaker 4: to go to federal court. Isn't your best shot in
Speaker 4: federal court? Wouldn't that take weeks to get there? On
Speaker 4: the immunity issue.
Speaker 11: I mean, there are always ways to expedite appeals and
Speaker 11: to seek emergency relief. It really just depends on how
Speaker 11: Judge Murchon decides.
Speaker 6: To deal with this case.
Speaker 11: We've obviously had a lot of success in the federal
Speaker 11: system for President Trump. We've won a number of cases
Speaker 11: at the US Supreme Court just this year, and then
Speaker 11: obviously having that case in Florida dismissed outright was a
Speaker 11: big victory for us as well. We've also had some
Speaker 11: successes in the New York appellate system, though the New
Speaker 11: York Appellate Division was actually pretty good to us. During
Speaker 11: the Tiss James New York Civil case, that was the
Speaker 11: purported civil fraud case that the New York AG's Office
Speaker 11: brought against us. We won four or five victories in
Speaker 11: front of the Appellate Division there, and we have that
Speaker 11: case up on appeal now in full. So I'm hopeful
Speaker 11: that fair judges will see this case, We'll see the
Speaker 11: issues here, and will rule the way that they should.
Speaker 4: Well. Lastly, Will Scarf, attorney for Donald Trump, Let's say,
Speaker 4: on the sixteenth of September, about about a month, three
Speaker 4: and a half, four weeks away, he brushes aside the
Speaker 4: important issues of immunity that doesn't apply in this case.
Speaker 4: Obviously it does. He then proceeds a sentence sing two
Speaker 4: days later. And at that point I've said before that
Speaker 4: he's going to sentence him to prison. So let's say
Speaker 4: the worst possible thing happens. He brushes aside where Shawn
Speaker 4: brushes aside they bring us Supreme Court. He then says,
Speaker 4: we're preceding a sentencing, and he actually sends him to
Speaker 4: a sing sing or to Rikers Island. What do you
Speaker 4: do then?
Speaker 11: Well, I can't betray litigation strategy here, but I will
Speaker 11: say that we would plan to vigorously and quickly challenge
Speaker 11: any denial of.
Speaker 6: Our rights under the.
Speaker 11: Supreme Court's immunity decision, and we will also quickly and
Speaker 11: vigorously challenge any sentence imposed, whether it's a sentence of
Speaker 11: incarceration or probation or anything like that, because we believe
Speaker 11: that that decision in New York, that the jury verdict
Speaker 11: was deeply viled of President Trump's rights, and it's just
Speaker 11: simply unsustainable on appeal. So we are going to continue
Speaker 11: fighting like hell for President Trump because he's always fought
Speaker 11: for us, and we believe the law is on our
Speaker 11: here and that ultimately justice will win in this case.
Speaker 4: Will Scarf, you're doing the lord's work out there, and
Speaker 4: hopefully Judge Marshaan will say, you know what, this whole
Speaker 4: case was intertwined with presidential activities, with testimony, the indictment phase,
Speaker 4: and the grand jury and then at the pet at
Speaker 4: the trial stage, it was interspersed constantly with White House
Speaker 4: personnel that testified, which at a minimum was presumed rebuttable.
Speaker 4: It was presumed he had presidential immunity, which was rebuttable.
Speaker 4: And he never conducted those hearings because the case did
Speaker 4: not exist from the Supreme Court when the trial took place.
Speaker 4: And you try to stop this until the Supreme Court ruled,
Speaker 4: and of course that would not happen because Mrshawn and
Speaker 4: the Democrats were held bent on getting that felony conviction,
Speaker 4: so they can start yelling and screaming about a convicted felon, convicted,
Speaker 4: fell and convicted felon irrespect of the facts. I'm confident,
Speaker 4: as a great American that you're going to win this case.
Speaker 4: And I pray to God the Lord's paying attention and
Speaker 4: brings peace to the land. And then once again, will
Speaker 4: scarf on a I've seen you repeatedly on cable, one
Speaker 4: of the great attorneys for Donald Trump. Good luck and
Speaker 4: God speed. Do you have any questions for me? Possibly?
Speaker 4: And the rule in Shelley's case are possibly the rule
Speaker 4: against perpetuities.
Speaker 11: No, no, I appreciate it. It's sharp by the way,
Speaker 11: but I really appreciate you having me on, and it's
Speaker 11: been a lot of fun talking about all this.
Speaker 4: Joe was soon turn it down to a sharp thank
Speaker 4: you very much for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 4: May God bless you and God bless America. Thank you
Speaker 4: very much, God bless you. Bill. Thank you. Well, let's
Speaker 4: continue with more and we'll see what happens. But they
Speaker 4: tried to stop the New York case because there was
Speaker 4: a pending matter before the United States Supreme Court and
Speaker 4: this local little trial court in New York City. Marshawn
Speaker 4: said no, now, now I'm going to proceed with the trial.
Speaker 4: And now he stepped in it because he put on
Speaker 4: a lowed witnesses to testify that should not have testified
Speaker 4: because of the US Supreme Court case. Can you smell
Speaker 4: what I'm cooking? Bill cunning in the Grand American live
Speaker 4: with you every Sunday night. Why let's continue to help
Speaker 4: Bill Cunningham the Great America. Good to hear from Attorney
Speaker 4: Will Sharf, who knows legally and won the cases. This
Speaker 4: guy is brilliant. He's running for the Attorney general's position
Speaker 4: in Missouri. If by the ability to move there and
Speaker 4: vote for Will I would do it at a heartbeat.
Speaker 4: Every time he gets on the case, whether it's CNN
Speaker 4: or he doesn't get on MSNBC, then'll allow such things
Speaker 4: or Fox News. The guy makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 4: And the four cases against Donald Trump, as he said,
Speaker 4: are all falling apart because of the June decision by
Speaker 4: the United States Supreme Court. The three buckets seemed to
Speaker 4: indicate that the New York case is also gone on appeal.
Speaker 4: At trial, there were White House testimonies from individuals working
Speaker 4: in the executive branch of government over the objection of
Speaker 4: Donald Trump. And so you can't have a situation where
Speaker 4: White House personnel are forced to testify under the weight
Speaker 4: of a subpoena against an acting president pursuing to the
Speaker 4: new rulings of the US Supreme Court. At the end
Speaker 4: of June, so the New York case is gone, the
Speaker 4: federal cases cannot proceed, and since Trump's going to win
Speaker 4: the presidency, he's going to order those to be dismissed anyway.
Speaker 4: And the only case remaining is the one in Fulton County, Atlanta,
Speaker 4: which is a joke by itself. You can't have a
Speaker 4: case where the federal prosecutors meet up with the state
Speaker 4: prosecutors in the White House talking about strategy, the object
Speaker 4: of which is to make sure the President Donald Trump
Speaker 4: has a felony conviction in the twenty twenty four election.
Speaker 4: That thing was a farce from the get go, made
Speaker 4: no sense at all. And hopefully Fanny Willison her lover
Speaker 4: boy will receive their just deserts from the Disciplinary Council
Speaker 4: in the State of Georgia, which I think they probably will.
Speaker 4: Let's continue with more. One of the columns I like
Speaker 4: to read quite often is Ryan Walker of Heritage Action
Speaker 4: of the Heritage Foundation. They've got great columns up about
Speaker 4: what's happening and after the conclusion of the Democratic National
Speaker 4: love fest on Thursday night, and looking ahead, where we
Speaker 4: go from here and where we go from here is
Speaker 4: the ability of the mainstream media to be quiet and
Speaker 4: to shut up as much as possible, to make sure
Speaker 4: that the truth about Kamala Harris is not known to
Speaker 4: the average low information voter. That's the goal. It works
Speaker 4: with Obama in eight it worked with Biden not coming
Speaker 4: out of the basement in twenty twenty, and will it
Speaker 4: work now? I have my doubts because We're almost at
Speaker 4: the end of the month. He's given no shall we
Speaker 4: say interview, and every policy prescription she has that ails
Speaker 4: the American economy makes things much worse. And so from there,
Speaker 4: I don't know. Can she get away with it? Well,
Speaker 4: Biden got away with it and Obama got away with it.
Speaker 4: Can she get away with it? My answer is yes,
Speaker 4: I'll just continue with more. Ryan Walker calling to him
Speaker 4: next to the line becomes available eight sixty six six
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Speaker 4: Bill Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, the conventions are
Speaker 4: now Don Finney and looking forward to a Labor Day.
Speaker 4: But then after that, September tenth comes rather quickly, and
Speaker 4: allegedly a Kamala Harris is going on a news conference
Speaker 4: and or an interview sometime by the end of the month,
Speaker 4: which would be which I don't think is going to happen,
Speaker 4: but nonetheless we'll see what occurs. But joining you and
Speaker 4: I now is Ryan Walker of Heritageackson, Executive vice President
Speaker 4: of Heritageackson and Ryan Walker. Welcome again to the Bill
Speaker 4: Cunningham Show. And first of all, Ryan, for those who
Speaker 4: may be uninitiated, can you tell the American people what
Speaker 4: is Harety's action and what does this seek to do?
Speaker 4: If anything?
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on and it's great to be
Speaker 3: with you tonight.
Speaker 12: Yes.
Speaker 3: Heritage Acson is a grassroots organization that is an issue
Speaker 3: advocacy organization in Washington, d C. Connected with the Heritage Foundation,
Speaker 3: advocating for conservative policy solutions at both the cederal and
Speaker 3: state level.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about one thing, which is price controls. About
Speaker 4: a week or ten days ago before the convention, Kamala Harris,
Speaker 4: after quite a bit of consternation, came out with one
Speaker 4: policy prescription for what ails this great country of ours,
Speaker 4: and that was price controls. I can only imagine those
Speaker 4: manipulating her thought that would be a great idea, including
Speaker 4: Bernie Sanders, and so she had a serious talk in
Speaker 4: which she actually said that price controls, which has caused
Speaker 4: shortages and non existent merchandise and countries all over the world,
Speaker 4: should be tried here in America. And this wasn't some
Speaker 4: flip and comment that this was a policy decision that
Speaker 4: she and her advisors thought long and hard about a
Speaker 4: crating and she wanted to tell the American people, you
Speaker 4: put me in power, We're going to make America look
Speaker 4: like Venezuela. Can you tell the American people first and foremost,
Speaker 4: what happens if there's a wage and price controls on
Speaker 4: products and what does that do to it does to
Speaker 4: the consumer?
Speaker 3: Well, absolutely, this is it's ridiculous that she put this
Speaker 3: plan out, and I think it's been exposed since then
Speaker 3: and will continue to be. Price controls do nothing more
Speaker 3: than than destroy the producer, the farmer, the person at
Speaker 3: the bottom of the food chain producing everything that's stored
Speaker 3: on those food shelves that she supposedly wants to protect.
Speaker 3: The plan would do nothing more than increased prices and
Speaker 3: produce scarcity, which is the complete opposite of what this
Speaker 3: country needs.
Speaker 4: It's worked nowhere. In fact, Rodney McMullin, the CEO of Kroger,
Speaker 4: who's a friend of mine related that the typical large
Speaker 4: Kroger store has about one hundred and fifty thousand individual products,
Speaker 4: and each product is based upon the cost of Kroger
Speaker 4: of buying that product. I don't care if it's a widget,
Speaker 4: a pound of hamburger, if it's celfhane wrap, whatever you
Speaker 4: buy a Kroger, there's seven to eight to nine individuals
Speaker 4: and companies below the point at which you buy the product,
Speaker 4: and all the way from the rancher to the chicken
Speaker 4: producer to the celofhane rentals wrap, whatever product you make.
Speaker 4: Along the way, it was the manufacturer, of the distributor,
Speaker 4: the creator, it's the warehouse men, it's all their costs.
Speaker 4: By the time to get the product to put on
Speaker 4: the shelf, there's seven to ten individuals and companies that
Speaker 4: I've already been paid to create that product. So to
Speaker 4: say at the end of the product chain that you
Speaker 4: can charge this amount of money, He said, what do
Speaker 4: I do if along the way seven to ten other
Speaker 4: entities before it comes to my large superstore Kroger, that
Speaker 4: I have to sell it at five dollars and I've
Speaker 4: already spent six dollars to buy the It's six dollars
Speaker 4: to buy the product, and I can't sell it for
Speaker 4: more than five dollars. So in that case, what we
Speaker 4: do is quit buying the product. It won't be available.
Speaker 4: That means people get unemployed. But Kamala Harris doesn't recognize that.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about two other policy prescriptions at Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4: One is twenty five thousand dollars. If you're like a
Speaker 4: first time home buyer the federal government, you're going to
Speaker 4: walk up to the pay win now, They're going to
Speaker 4: pay you twenty five thousand dollars as part of the
Speaker 4: down payment. Now in fantasy land and goldilocks land, that
Speaker 4: sounds pretty good. Why does that not work.
Speaker 3: Either, Well, this is another policy that will exacerbate the
Speaker 3: problem that she's trying to solve. Giving every won twenty
Speaker 3: five thousand dollars in increase to the bottom line of
Speaker 3: every home across the country would do nothing more than
Speaker 3: throw fire onto the home price situation. It would add
Speaker 3: twenty five thousand dollars in additional increased cost to all
Speaker 3: of the home transactions going on in the country. It
Speaker 3: would do nothing more than increase home prices across the country,
Speaker 3: which is the problem she's supposedly trying to solve.
Speaker 4: So if every year, this say, is a million homes sold,
Speaker 4: if the buyer has an additional twenty five thousand dollars
Speaker 4: to give to the seller, the seller is going to
Speaker 4: raise the price by twenty five thousand dollars, which will
Speaker 4: cause the inflation you're seeking to avoid. That's the way
Speaker 4: the market works. She also has a plan to build
Speaker 4: three to five million new homes in America. I'd live
Speaker 4: in little Cincinnati, Ohio. You live in Washington, d C.
Speaker 4: I can't imagine what it would cost and the suburbs
Speaker 4: of Washington, d C. To build a brand new home.
Speaker 4: I know in Cincinnati to build a brand new home
Speaker 4: is between six hundred thousand to one million dollars in
Speaker 4: order to build that home, and in Washington, d C.
Speaker 4: It would be greater than that. Where's that money going
Speaker 4: to come from? We're talking hundreds of billions of dollars
Speaker 4: to build new homes. Where does that come from?
Speaker 3: Oh, it comes from the taxpayer. And on top of that,
Speaker 3: can you tell me another government program that has come
Speaker 3: under budget or ahead of time in schedule. There isn't
Speaker 3: one that you can point to. So this program would
Speaker 3: go beyond it's it's timeline, it's deadline. It would cost
Speaker 3: billions upon billions more than is initially estimated. And this
Speaker 3: would add again to the problem that the that that
Speaker 3: she is supposedly trying to solve, which is housing affordability.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about gasoline. When the Trumpster left office almost
Speaker 4: four years ago, the price of a gallon of unloaded
Speaker 4: gas in the mid to US is about two dollars
Speaker 4: and five cents. I just filled up my Chevy Blazer
Speaker 4: a couple hours ago, and the cost now is three
Speaker 4: dollars and sixty nine cents, which is about a forty
Speaker 4: percent increase. In California and Washington, d C is much higher.
Speaker 4: So she is saying the way to create more availability
Speaker 4: of gasoline is to eliminate pipelines and to make it
Speaker 4: difficult for oil companies to locate new sources. And she
Speaker 4: claims that we can't use nuclear power because after all,
Speaker 4: there might be a three mile island situation, that we
Speaker 4: can't use natural gas, which is nature's greatest fuel ever.
Speaker 4: It is almost a pollution free and it's a wonderful product.
Speaker 4: We can't do that. We can't build any more LNG terminals,
Speaker 4: that's now illegal. We can't have any more coal. Still,
Speaker 4: about thirty percent of America is run by coal mining.
Speaker 4: We can't do that, and we can't drill for more
Speaker 4: oil and so and also I'm told as you as
Speaker 4: I'm sure you know that every year for the next
Speaker 4: ten years, as far as the eye can see, we're
Speaker 4: going to have a need of about eight to ten
Speaker 4: percent more every year, and more electricity because of AI
Speaker 4: and because we have twenty five million or so illegals
Speaker 4: in the country using electricity, So we have a much
Speaker 4: greater need and we have less supply, which means the
Speaker 4: price is going to go up. So what can you
Speaker 4: tell the American people how it would work to have
Speaker 4: more energy at a lower price when there's less energy
Speaker 4: and more demand.
Speaker 3: Well, it doesn't work that way. It's fantasy land. And
Speaker 3: what she is describing and telling the American people is
Speaker 3: nothing more than fantasy. She is a co sponsor and
Speaker 3: supporter of the Green New Deal, which would cost the
Speaker 3: American economy five trillion dollars. To your point, it would
Speaker 3: ban natural gas, coal, nuclear energy, and the like, and
Speaker 3: so it would do nothing more than increase the price
Speaker 3: of the pump, which is something that we've been experiencing
Speaker 3: for the last four years under this administration. I don't
Speaker 3: think the American people want another four years of that.
Speaker 3: And it's why November is it's total important.
Speaker 4: You know, I have one more question economically, But can
Speaker 4: you imagine if the American people are sold to bill
Speaker 4: of goods, they can hide and chuck and jive Kamala
Speaker 4: Harris like they did Barack Hussein Obama in twenty oh eight,
Speaker 4: and there's no serious interviews. She does okay during the debate,
Speaker 4: she doesn't embarrass herself. And then the Hollywood left, the
Speaker 4: morning talk shows, the view, the evening newscast, the late
Speaker 4: night comics, Hollywood colleges, and university, big tech all get
Speaker 4: together and they push her over the finish line. And
Speaker 4: she's now the president and she's sitting there for the
Speaker 4: next four to eight years. That means between twenty oh
Speaker 4: eight and twenty thirty two, which is twenty four years,
Speaker 4: we're going to have twenty of twenty four years the
Speaker 4: policies of Obama, Biden, and Harris. What does America look like?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know that we have much to come
Speaker 3: back from at that point. It's beyond just the economic issues.
Speaker 3: Of course those are central and probably top of mind
Speaker 3: to all of your listeners, but it's also the culture
Speaker 3: of America. I think that we all agree that we're
Speaker 3: losing the social fabric that has held our country together
Speaker 3: for the last few decades, and people are turning to
Speaker 3: each other and wondering where this country is going. And
Speaker 3: I don't know, honestly that we could get through another
Speaker 3: four years of that and still have a country left
Speaker 3: to take care of.
Speaker 4: Well, right now, we owe about thirty six trillion dollars
Speaker 4: in national debt. It goes up about one trillion dollars
Speaker 4: every ninety days, which means by the time of forty
Speaker 4: what we're adding to the deficit almost two trillion dollars
Speaker 4: of unfunded liabilities without counting all the other unfunded liabilities,
Speaker 4: which means we're going to be if she has eight years,
Speaker 4: we're going to be at fifty trillion dollars in debt
Speaker 4: along with two hundred trillion dollars and unfunded liabilities. We
Speaker 4: can't recover from that. One other issue. On your website
Speaker 4: at Heritage Action, Ryan Walker, I see quite a bit
Speaker 4: of a out immigration to see quite a bit about
Speaker 4: DEI on the immigration front. She's in charge of the
Speaker 4: southern border. You may call her a czar or not
Speaker 4: or a tzar arena, whatever you want to call her.
Speaker 4: The Lester Whold interview about three years ago is very revealing.
Speaker 4: It's very rare when a mainstream anchor like Lester Hold
Speaker 4: reveals the ignorance of a democrat. But he did it
Speaker 4: when asked her if she's been in the Southern border,
Speaker 4: and she said, well, I've not been to Europe either.
Speaker 4: I don't have to go to the southern border. She
Speaker 4: flew over the top of it a few times. And
Speaker 4: so you often have reference to what's happening in the
Speaker 4: southern border with the rapes and the robberies. There's one
Speaker 4: hundred thousand missing kids, migrant children. You can't find them
Speaker 4: anywhere in the system. They're dispersed all over the country
Speaker 4: by trained playing and bus. Imagine if we have four
Speaker 4: to eight more years of the policies on the southern border,
Speaker 4: what does that do to small town America?
Speaker 3: Oh, I think it destroys it. I think that we're
Speaker 3: seeing that, we're seeing it in small town America across
Speaker 3: the country. I recently saw it over the weekend. In fact,
Speaker 3: a news story that described a town cutting off funding
Speaker 3: for school buses so that they could bust migrants around
Speaker 3: this community. I think that the American people are sick
Speaker 3: of this ten million people in the country later and
Speaker 3: they cannot stand what it looks like. They cannot stand
Speaker 3: the crime, They cannot stand the fact that these people
Speaker 3: are not interested in being a part of our great experiment.
Speaker 3: They are opportunists coming here to take advantage of an
Speaker 3: open southern border that Vice President Harris has created and allowed.
Speaker 3: And to your aud the debt and thirty six trillion
Speaker 3: dollars in debt. This administration and the Harris administration potentially
Speaker 3: would want to increase taxes on every American. They would
Speaker 3: not want to continue the tax cuts that were instituted
Speaker 3: under the Trump administration, and they would do nothing to
Speaker 3: create growth in this country, which is the only way
Speaker 3: that we will get out of the thirty six trillion
Speaker 3: dollar hole that we have. Instead, they want to do
Speaker 3: price controls, open the southern border, and destroy the social
Speaker 3: fabric that we have.
Speaker 4: Do you buy the argument that she's seen the light
Speaker 4: that here at the age of sixty years old the
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris campaign. She's now sixty years old. She's been
Speaker 4: in public service in a sense for like thirty five
Speaker 4: years in one capacity or another. When she ran for
Speaker 4: president in twenty nineteen twenty twenty, she had the most
Speaker 4: left wing extreme viewpoints about crushing or eliminating private insurance companies.
Speaker 4: She talked about sanctuary city, sanctuary states, defunding the police,
Speaker 4: set up a bond fund in Minneapolis to get the felons,
Speaker 4: the robbers, the rapeist, the murderers out of jail, which
Speaker 4: she was successful in doing. It's not an offense, not
Speaker 4: a crime, to illegally cross the southern border, to provide
Speaker 4: every illegal alien to all the welfare rights of any
Speaker 4: American citizen. Is there any sense in you have in
Speaker 4: your head, Ryan Walker of Heritage Found Heritage Action, that
Speaker 4: somehow she's seen the light and that in reality she's
Speaker 4: now a Reagan Republican instead of a left wing democra.
Speaker 4: Is she saying things to get elected or does she
Speaker 4: truly believe them?
Speaker 3: No, I don't think that she's changed the tune to
Speaker 3: your point. In this stage in her life, She's built
Speaker 3: a career being a progressive and a radical progressive. I
Speaker 3: think that she's gotten acknowledgment from Speaker Pelosi and advice
Speaker 3: that Speaker Pelosi thinks that she has to tack toward
Speaker 3: the middle to win this election and supposedly reinvent herself.
Speaker 3: But the problem is that she's a career politician and
Speaker 3: she has been in this space for a very long time,
Speaker 3: and her policy positions are very well known, and she
Speaker 3: hasn't stepped away from them. In fact, she's gone even
Speaker 3: further to the left. So we shouldn't expect anything differently
Speaker 3: should she become a president of the United States.
Speaker 4: At your website Heritage Action, which is a wonderful website,
Speaker 4: it talks about DEI, which is government discrimination, picking and
Speaker 4: choosing winners and losers by race, sexual orientation, or gender,
Speaker 4: something of that character. Why is that evil? Why is
Speaker 4: that hurtful to average Americans to have government policy that
Speaker 4: practices race and gender discrimination. Why is that so bad?
Speaker 3: Because we are a nation founded on the principle of
Speaker 3: merit and the advancement of someone's individual skills, attribute hard work,
Speaker 3: and determination to advance themselves through their career or their business,
Speaker 3: their entrepreneurship, whatever it may be. Instead, DEI says, because
Speaker 3: of your skin and your race, we're going to put
Speaker 3: you at a position that you wouldn't otherwise be eligible
Speaker 3: for or wouldn't otherwise be able to get, and you
Speaker 3: put them in that position. And a clear example of
Speaker 3: this is the FAA. The Federal Aviation Administration has recently
Speaker 3: come under fire for instituting DEI policies in air traffic
Speaker 3: controller hires, and we've seen some recent mishafs on the
Speaker 3: runways with folks not understanding and knowing and having adequate
Speaker 3: training and a good background to do the job. And
Speaker 3: so that's exactly what's happening across the federal government. This
Speaker 3: administration has been pushing it for the past four years,
Speaker 3: and if it's allowed to continue, it will add to
Speaker 3: the destruction of this country.
Speaker 4: Now, lastly, about a minute remaining, Ryan Walker, I've seen
Speaker 4: a headline on the Washington Times. It says the following
Speaker 4: DC swamp Dellar say, it doesn't matter who wins the presidency,
Speaker 4: they'll do what they want to do. And that is
Speaker 4: the fourth estate, which is the bureaucracy. Literally a couple
Speaker 4: million bureaucrats. And according to one study, fifty four percent
Speaker 4: of federal government managers in the agencies would defy voters
Speaker 4: to do what they want because we recognize the legitimate
Speaker 4: authority for government comes from the consent of the government governed,
Speaker 4: and that every four years we change at the top,
Speaker 4: but we remain. It goes on to say that another
Speaker 4: poll showed that a majority of Swamp Dennison's think we
Speaker 4: peasants are getting out of line. Fifty one percent or
Speaker 4: federal managers believe that people have too much individual freedom.
Speaker 4: And that means that even if Trump wins, he can't
Speaker 4: change the bureaucracy. If he wants to change rules, get
Speaker 4: rid of the Department of Education. This article says they
Speaker 4: have the lawyers ready to go to a tied up
Speaker 4: in federal court for years until the next election. How
Speaker 4: much of a danger to freedom are the alphabet soup
Speaker 4: three letter government agencies who are forever and will not
Speaker 4: pay attention do ever wins the presidency, it doesn't make
Speaker 4: any difference. How sick is that?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 3: I think it describes and shows exactly what we're facing
Speaker 3: right These bureaucrats and these administrators are the ones that
Speaker 3: have been implementing this vision for the past few decades,
Speaker 3: and we're finally living under it. We're finally seeing the
Speaker 3: fruits of their labors. And we cannot have this anymore.
Speaker 3: We have to have a president who goes into an
Speaker 3: administration and uses schedule as in the authorities in him
Speaker 3: to advance his goals. But I think you're absolutely right.
Speaker 3: The bureaucracy and the swamp want to stop Trump and
Speaker 3: they're acting in accordance to that.
Speaker 4: Ryan Walker, thanks for coming on, and of course Heritageaction
Speaker 4: dot com. It's right there, all the Heritage Foundation groups.
Speaker 4: It's wonderful. And Ryan Walker, good luck to you, and
Speaker 4: once again thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 4: And may you have a great Labor Day weekend. Thank
Speaker 4: you very much. Thank you, God bless America. Let's continue
Speaker 4: with more and if line becomes available eight sixty six
Speaker 4: six four seven seven three three seven, the bureaucrats will
Speaker 4: pay attention to no one accept their own job. Bill
Speaker 4: Cunningham with you every Sunday night by Billy Cunningham. Let's
Speaker 4: continue and as I said to Ryan Walker, imagine four
Speaker 4: to eight more years of Kamala Harris socialism, wide open
Speaker 4: southern borders, massive government borrowing, massive inflation, breaking down of
Speaker 4: our major cities, defunding the police. Right now, there's fourteen
Speaker 4: naval ships that can't be equipped because of a lack
Speaker 4: of volunteers to join the navy. That's what's happening in
Speaker 4: this administration. Can we survive four to eight more years
Speaker 4: of these policies? Many of the American people say not
Speaker 4: just say no, they say hell no, we can't go
Speaker 4: through it. Let's continue with more coming up next to
Speaker 4: as author Seth Frenchman, I'm going to try to connect
Speaker 4: with him in Israel tonight to talk about what happened
Speaker 4: with HESBLA and more. Go cunning in with you every Sunday,
Speaker 4: Bill Cunningham, the great American. Of course, what happened October
Speaker 4: seventh of last year was in an incredible moment, a
Speaker 4: terrible moment for the Jewish people and for the world,
Speaker 4: because more than a thousand Jews were killed, two hundred
Speaker 4: and fifty were taken hostage. As we sit here, there
Speaker 4: continues to be large number of hostages. We pray to
Speaker 4: God are alive, but likely not. But we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4: The peace talks continue and nauseum because Hamas does not
Speaker 4: one piece. Hamas wants war. And so when the sinwar
Speaker 4: and the other leaders of Hamas talk about the war
Speaker 4: and the civilian casualties that is what HAMAS wants, or
Speaker 4: more Palestinian casualties because it fits their purpose. And for
Speaker 4: the one of the first books out on this is
Speaker 4: Seth Fronzman The October seventh War, and Seth Fronsman, I
Speaker 4: think you're in Jerusalem as I speak, and welcome to
Speaker 4: the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, can you
Speaker 4: tell the American people what happened on October the seventh
Speaker 4: and how the psyche and the security and the safety
Speaker 4: of Jews have been compromised and how did it take place?
Speaker 4: Just give us the overview of what happened October the seventh.
Speaker 12: Sure, well, thank you so much for having me on. Basically,
Speaker 12: HAMAS is an extremist tariffs organization that has existed since
Speaker 12: the nineteen eighty and around two thousand and five it
Speaker 12: was able to take over the Gaza Strip and by
Speaker 12: killing off its rivals, and then it turned. After two
Speaker 12: thousand and five sixty seven, it turned the Gaza Strip
Speaker 12: basically into a fortress of terror. It built hundreds of
Speaker 12: miles of underground tunnels, and it trained around thirty thousand fighters.
Speaker 12: And what it did was it basically prepared a massive
Speaker 12: surprise attack on Israel. It took place you know, last October,
Speaker 12: about ten ten months ago, and it did a surprise
Speaker 12: attack just like Pearl Harbor or nine to eleven. It
Speaker 12: sent thousands of men to attack this de fence, there's
Speaker 12: a kind of security fence that goes around Gaza. It
Speaker 12: attacked around thirty places along the fence and thousands of
Speaker 12: guys riding motorcycles carrying AK forty sevens and the RPGs.
Speaker 12: It also used small drones to attack some of Israels
Speaker 12: antennas and some of the technology including they are basically
Speaker 12: kind of like Israel have. These remote controlled machine guns
Speaker 12: were on these towers around the Daza strip and they
Speaker 12: neutralize a lot of those. And once the Hamas guys
Speaker 12: had gotten through the fence, they basically each squad of
Speaker 12: Hamas members about thirty in each place, thirty to fifty.
Speaker 12: Their goal was to attack Israeli civilian communities and massacre
Speaker 12: the people that they came across and then kidnapped some
Speaker 12: of the ones that survived. So each imagine thirty groups
Speaker 12: of men, you know, thirty tons ten and each of
Speaker 12: them attacking a small community or attacking civilians who were
Speaker 12: out riding bicycles or you know, out for a morning job.
Speaker 12: It was about six thirty in the morning, and they
Speaker 12: covered their approach by firing thousands of rockets so that
Speaker 12: most of the people would be hiding in their safers,
Speaker 12: in their communities or whatever they were taking cover, and
Speaker 12: they were able to overrun the Israeli troops. There were
Speaker 12: about five hundred to seven hundreds of Way troops on
Speaker 12: the border. Most of those troops were overrun or they
Speaker 12: were coming under see each fighting it out, and that
Speaker 12: gave the Hamas about you know, five hours to commit
Speaker 12: this massacre up until Israel could basically bring in forces
Speaker 12: to there that were able to push the Hamas Teris
Speaker 12: back or neutralize them, or capture a few of them
Speaker 12: and plug all these gaps from the fence. And it
Speaker 12: then took another week kind of even figure out how
Speaker 12: many people have been killed, because some of the bodies
Speaker 12: were burned, or they were or they were killed in
Speaker 12: different ways. So the man Israel, of course, has been
Speaker 12: fighting ten months basically the Gaza to try to defeat himas.
Speaker 4: Yes, you know Seth. One of the phrases that came
Speaker 4: out of nine to eleven was the failure of imagination,
Speaker 4: and I was there as you know, in last May.
Speaker 4: It was almost impossible. The Israeli people could not have
Speaker 4: imagined this is all taking place. I call it a
Speaker 4: failure of imagination. And so is that an apt phrase
Speaker 4: to use? Because no one in Israel thought this was possible.
Speaker 4: And the kibbutzas are in southern in Israel, there are
Speaker 4: little enclades anywhere. For me, one hundred and maybe five
Speaker 4: thousand people more or less living in the desert and
Speaker 4: small groups in an idyllic setting. Well, why wasn't the
Speaker 4: idea of prepared for this? Can you answer that question?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 12: I mean, I think it's one of these things where
Speaker 12: you get used to an enemy. Hamas was an enemy.
Speaker 12: It was an organization, you know, sworn to destroyers or
Speaker 12: own killed Jewish people. But the component is that it
Speaker 12: had been there on the border controlling Gaza since, as
Speaker 12: I said, around two thousand and five, two thousand and seven,
Speaker 12: So this was.
Speaker 6: A known enemy.
Speaker 12: You know, think about it like the cartels in Mexico
Speaker 12: or something where you're used to having these enemies or
Speaker 12: dangerous people, but you become complacent sometimes. And I've been
Speaker 12: down on the Gaza border I've covered every war there
Speaker 12: since two thousand and nine or so, and I remember
Speaker 12: driving along there, or riding a bicycle whatever. I mean,
Speaker 12: you just you don't feel that there're you know, thirty
Speaker 12: thousand guys on the other side that are trying to
Speaker 12: kill you because.
Speaker 6: You don't see them.
Speaker 12: And I think, you know, unfortunately, you know, Israel had
Speaker 12: an intelligence failure that the days leaning up to the
Speaker 12: attack and didn't have enough soldiers, and Israel had become complacent,
Speaker 12: and it didn't have enough tanks on the border. There
Speaker 12: were only about a dozen tanks. There were only two
Speaker 12: combat helicopters that were on alert that morning, and they
Speaker 12: were actually morder in Israel because Israel was a plade
Speaker 12: mortar fighting as Balla and Iran, right, So basically everything
Speaker 12: that could go wrong went wrong, and unfortunately complacency led
Speaker 12: to this massive massacre. And now everyone is trying to
Speaker 12: learn lessons from that and try to make it never
Speaker 12: happen again. But you mentioned nine to eleven. I mean
Speaker 12: we never I remember nine to eleven as well. We
Speaker 12: never imagined people would fly planes into the World Trade
Speaker 12: Center and the Pentagon at the same time, right, I mean,
Speaker 12: we might have imagined one plane, might someone that might
Speaker 12: do it with one plane, And I think Israel was
Speaker 12: a wedding for a small attack involving, you know, a
Speaker 12: few hundred guys. It never iagine that the enemy could
Speaker 12: plan such a complex murderous operations. And now, of course
Speaker 12: we you know we I hopefully would never underestimate its
Speaker 12: enemies again. But it's just that's what happens sometimes when
Speaker 12: euro Perry's or security officials become a bit complacent.
Speaker 4: Seth frontsmen and jump ahead to today and after the
Speaker 4: Democratic Convention, there's this push to have a ceasefire, and
Speaker 4: I make the analogy that I could not imagine Georgie Patten.
Speaker 4: General Patten was on the outskirts of Berlin and World
Speaker 4: War Two, and that somebody would want a cease fire
Speaker 4: leaving Adolf Hitler in charge of Berlin acting as if
Speaker 4: he's going to change his stripes. Can you talk politically
Speaker 4: how much sense it would make for Israel and now
Speaker 4: to have a ceasefire leaving Hamas in charge of Gaza
Speaker 4: is not just delaying the inevitable for the next attack.
Speaker 4: And they tell you up front, we're going to kill
Speaker 4: what's going to happen next? Will be much worse than
Speaker 4: October the seventh, And so why would Benjamin Nichinyahuo agree
Speaker 4: to a peace treaty in which Hamas what they're hundreds
Speaker 4: of miles of tunnels and their complete control of Gaza
Speaker 4: and the fact they're given billions of dollars from nations
Speaker 4: all over the world that they use for military purposes.
Speaker 4: Why would Israel after this allow Hamas to stay in
Speaker 4: charge of Gaza.
Speaker 12: Well, I think it's the perfect comparison, you may with
Speaker 12: the being there in nineteen forty four and deciding to
Speaker 12: kind of give them not be the feat fire. History
Speaker 12: shows you can never have if you have a vicious,
Speaker 12: genocidal enemy that doesn't play by the same rules as you,
Speaker 12: and it's worn to kill you exactly, you can't have
Speaker 12: a seat fire. It just prolongs the inevitable of another war. Now,
Speaker 12: I think that Israel could have a short term sease
Speaker 12: fire like it did back in November where there was
Speaker 12: a ten day seat fire, in order to get some
Speaker 12: of the most vulnerable hostages out of Gaza. I think
Speaker 12: that you know, people want the hostages to be returned home.
Speaker 12: The other option is to try to free them inlitary attacks.
Speaker 12: And rescue missions. That of course that may risk that
Speaker 12: may risk lies as well, but I think yeah, definitely,
Speaker 12: any kind of sea spire that leaves Hamas in power
Speaker 12: is rewarding not only Hamas, but let's remember it's also
Speaker 12: empowering those who back Kamas, including Iran and the other
Speaker 12: countries like Russia or Shiner or Turkey or Kaka and others.
Speaker 12: So it's important to remember that any any attempt to
Speaker 12: leave Hamas in power or let it feel that it
Speaker 12: can win, will embold in all of America's enemies and
Speaker 12: all of Israel's enemies, and they will take a lesson
Speaker 12: from that that they can get away with this and
Speaker 12: do it somewhere else. So that certainly would be a
Speaker 12: good reason not to allow a Hamas any blue space
Speaker 12: or any kind of long term seaspire.
Speaker 4: Seth. The head of the snake is Iran. They're the
Speaker 4: exporters of terror all around the world. Why doesn't I've
Speaker 4: been told by a US retired general that if we
Speaker 4: said to Israel take out Iran not using nuclear means,
Speaker 4: there's three oil exporting ports that would be destroyed by
Speaker 4: Israeli air force and missiles. They'd be out of business. Economically,
Speaker 4: there's two or three dams in the country that provide
Speaker 4: all the drinking water. Take out the dams, ef viscerate
Speaker 4: ten to fifteen power stations and Iran suddenly they're back
Speaker 4: in the Middle Ages. Why doesn't I can imagine Iran
Speaker 4: would do it absolutely. What isn't Israel take the military approach,
Speaker 4: not using nuclear weapons and destroy Iran, which is the
Speaker 4: head of the snake. Why don't they do it?
Speaker 1: Don't?
Speaker 4: Why why doesn't Benjamin Netanyahu do that to end the war?
Speaker 12: I think in order for Israel to do that, it
Speaker 12: would want to have a coalition with other countries like
Speaker 12: the United States or Western allies. I don't think going
Speaker 12: to the loone, you know, that could lead Israel to
Speaker 12: be condemned, so I think Israel has to be very careful. Also,
Speaker 12: remember Israel still fighting a war in Gaza. It has
Speaker 12: it has troops fighting guys every day against thereas Israel
Speaker 12: is stating an onslaught. The Iranian back group has both us.
Speaker 12: So anyway, one argument could be made that we could
Speaker 12: go for the head of the snake, but I think
Speaker 12: that Israel has preferred to try to defeat the closer
Speaker 12: enemies first because they pose the big challenge, and Israel
Speaker 12: is hoping that Israel's Western allies like the United States,
Speaker 12: will be able to pick up some of the slack.
Speaker 12: And also you know, stand with Israel against the Iranian
Speaker 12: threats and things like that. So we have to see
Speaker 12: how the Iranian threat develops. You know, will Iran rushed
Speaker 12: to weaponize the nuclear program? That would be the redline
Speaker 12: I think for Israel. And so we have to see
Speaker 12: what Iran does next.
Speaker 4: When Iran has the capability of destroying Israel, it will
Speaker 4: do it because it's a culture of death, not of life. Russians, Chinese, Turks,
Speaker 4: they all want to live life, but the Islamic extremists
Speaker 4: in Iran and not the Iranian people, but the leaders
Speaker 4: do not want to that. They want to die because
Speaker 4: they think there's seventy two versions are in heaven. It's
Speaker 4: a culture of death. And lastly, I want I want
Speaker 4: to get to lastly, I want to get your reaction
Speaker 4: to this. I've read some stuff out of Europe that
Speaker 4: the goal of HESBLA and Amas in Iran is to
Speaker 4: bleed Israel dry over time. The three great drivers of
Speaker 4: the Israeli economy are tourism, agricultural products and high tech.
Speaker 4: I would imagine right now that those industries don't exist
Speaker 4: in any measurable amount. There's one hundred thousand Jews in
Speaker 4: northern Israel that's moved south to live with others. The
Speaker 4: economy's got to be on its back. Why wouldn't the
Speaker 4: forces of evil in Iran simply bleed Israel dry over
Speaker 4: the next three to five years, so they collapse economically,
Speaker 4: and then here comes the hordes of individuals around Israel
Speaker 4: to kill the Jews once again. Is that something that
Speaker 4: kind of marshals itself into your thinking that the long
Speaker 4: term says kill Israel indirectly when it can't do it directly.
Speaker 12: I think that's partly true. Yeah, Ran doesn't want to
Speaker 12: basically force Israel to endless wars of attrition on the borders,
Speaker 12: in which it's not an Israel's interest probably to fight
Speaker 12: in these long wars. Whereas as Bulah and the groups
Speaker 12: like the Who's thes or groups in Iraq, they don't
Speaker 12: have anything to lose. They've already bankrupted their country, so
Speaker 12: it doesn't matter to them that the country becomes more
Speaker 12: bankrupt like a racker or lemonons. So that's definitely part of.
Speaker 6: The running strategy.
Speaker 12: I would say that in Israel. In terms of what's
Speaker 12: happened in israel'm's the economy. It's true that turns and
Speaker 12: is probably down ninety percent, but I think the high
Speaker 12: tech sector continues to thrive because high tech is exportable
Speaker 12: whether or not there's a war. And also remember that
Speaker 12: some of the high tech is used in Israel's defense systems.
Speaker 12: I mean that's how Israel bill Ironville, That's how Israel,
Speaker 12: you know, trained pilots to fly off thirty five. So
Speaker 12: the high tech actually is something that Israel exports and
Speaker 12: also works with US defense company. So there is a
Speaker 12: silver lining probably there. In terms of the agriculture of yeah,
Speaker 12: the war's has been very bad to the north. I
Speaker 12: think the agriculture is south and what I've seen has
Speaker 12: rebounded impressively. So you know, Israel has always been under
Speaker 12: siege since it was founded in nineteen forty eight. It
Speaker 12: knows how to do this, but it's definitely not in
Speaker 12: his interest to fight this war for the next numero
Speaker 12: of years. And Iran has to be stopped and Iran
Speaker 12: supplies of whip and it's the groups like as well.
Speaker 12: It must be stopped or Iran. Williams, you do exactly
Speaker 12: what you said. We just try to slowly bleed Israel,
Speaker 12: all right.
Speaker 4: Seth Frensman, author of the October seventh War. I don't
Speaker 4: want to get into particulars of what these murderers did
Speaker 4: to women and babies. But the most despicable acts of
Speaker 4: human can commit against a mother who's pregnant was committed.
Speaker 4: Most are hyped up on drugs of one type or another.
Speaker 4: These thirty thousand fighters, and as we speak, there's about
Speaker 4: ten to fifteen thousand of Moss still alive wanting to
Speaker 4: fight the next war. This isn't ending it it must
Speaker 4: be won. Israel must win this war by any means necessary,
Speaker 4: because his existence is at risk. Seth Fronzman, the October
Speaker 4: seventh War. Thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 4: And Seth, you're a great American, and thank you very much.
Speaker 4: Thank you, God bless you. Let's continue with more. I
Speaker 4: could not imagine a situation where Iran had the military
Speaker 4: power of Israel and they wouldn't use it. And Israel
Speaker 4: is the only country on Earth that is not permitted
Speaker 4: to win its wars. Bill Cunningham, The Great American Live
Speaker 4: with you every Sunday night. Go right, Billy Cunningham, the
Speaker 4: Great American, Thanks for listening tonight. Especially it was good
Speaker 4: to hear from Seth Fronzman and Pastor Mark Bills about
Speaker 4: the situation in the Middle East, and also Will Sharf,
Speaker 4: who's the attorney for Donald Trump in the cases, and
Speaker 4: also Ryan Walker. When I look at all the news
Speaker 4: tonight and what's happening, I'm just haunted by the suggestion
Speaker 4: that the assassination attempt on Donald Trump was not unique
Speaker 4: in Butler County, Pennsylvania. That Newsmax is reporting and many
Speaker 4: others reported the same thing. That Iran has told many
Speaker 4: that they think the existence of Iran is at stake
Speaker 4: in the election of Donald Trump, and that they're very
Speaker 4: happy keeping Kamala Harris and Joe Biden that philosophy in
Speaker 4: charge going forward for the next four to eight years.
Speaker 4: Very happy with that fact. And that there's been reporting
Speaker 4: that they've sent assassination teams to track down and kill
Speaker 4: Donald Trump by any means necessary. And a little plexiglass
Speaker 4: is not going to stop an RPG or weaponized drone.
Speaker 4: And one confronted with this, Donald Trump said the other day,
Speaker 4: I think it was on Friday. Look, he said, it's
Speaker 4: my job to campaign. There's not a darned thing I
Speaker 4: can do about it. I trust now the secret service
Speaker 4: that I have. I got to do my job. And
Speaker 4: he said running for president is very dangerous. As we
Speaker 4: sit here in the evening of August the twenty fifth,
Speaker 4: with the hes blocks change, with Israel last night, and
Speaker 4: with more coming, we live in a violent, disgusting world
Speaker 4: in which freedom and a sense is on the ballot.
Speaker 4: Not the definition of freedom by Kamala Harrison Bernie Sanders,
Speaker 4: but the definition of freedom is described by the founding
Speaker 4: fathers in the US Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.
Speaker 4: And that this election is the most important since eighteen sixty.
Speaker 4: By that, I mean that if we continue in these
Speaker 4: policies for the next four years plus, we'll get to
Speaker 4: a point of no return. We cannot recover. We cannot recover.
Speaker 4: It doesn't work at all. We can't recover. That's how important.
Speaker 4: And by the way, please vote early, and please vote
Speaker 4: as often as you can legally. The Democrats vote early,
Speaker 4: they vote often, and away we go.
Speaker 6: Too.
Speaker 4: Many Republicans have waited until election day and something comes
Speaker 4: up and they don't vote. We have about seventy seventy
Speaker 4: four days remaining, but in about three weeks actually the
Speaker 4: voting is starting in several states, including North Carolina, which
Speaker 4: is critical. And the longer the vote takes and the
Speaker 4: more the ballots are hanging around boxes, the more opportunity
Speaker 4: for chicanery exist. And so, whether you like it or not,
Speaker 4: the one hundred and fifty thousand volunteers that the RNC
Speaker 4: is put together needs to be there to watch what's
Speaker 4: going on. I hope we have a clean election. If
Speaker 4: we do, Donald Trump's going to win and RFK Junior's
Speaker 4: endorsement is a net positive of one or two or
Speaker 4: three percentage points, which is also very important. And according
Speaker 4: to RFK Junior, who by the way, Biden's taken away
Speaker 4: Secret Service protection from Kennedy Junior now. But nonetheless, he says,
Speaker 4: more Democrats are going to come across understand what's at stake.
Speaker 4: We can't go the route of socialism and communism. We
Speaker 4: have to be proud Americans, like a white stallion on
Speaker 4: the high ranges of Wyoming, scratching against a pale blue sky.
Speaker 4: That's the American way of life. Stay tuned for more
Speaker 4: every Sunday Night was renowned the election, and I pray
Speaker 4: to God when I'm with you this Sunday after the election,
Speaker 4: I can say once again that Donald Trump has been
Speaker 4: elected president one more time. May God bless you and
Speaker 4: God bless America. That's what I want to do. Thank
Speaker 4: you for listening. With you again, Bill cunning and the
Speaker 4: Great American with you every Sunday Night.