Speaker 1: A typical UFO abduction account before it was typical by
Charles Lear. UFO abduction accounts of gray aliens taking people
from their homes and examining them in their spaceships started
becoming typical after the publication in nineteen eighty one of
Bot Hopkins's book Missing Time. However, there is an early
account with these elements in the nineteen seventy seven book
Abducted Confrontations with Beings from Outer Space by the founders
of the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization CORAL and Jim Lorenzen.
The case was investigated by APRO field investigator Kevin Randall,
an APRO consultant and director of research doctor James Harder.
Years later, Randall presented his thoughts on the case, which
provide some insight into how the typical oh UFO abduction
narrative might have evolved. The person who reported the abduction
profiled in the Lorenzen's book is given the pseudonym Patty Price,
and she is described as a divorced mother of six
children in a small town in a Midwestern state. According
to the account, on October sixteenth, nineteen seventy three, the
family had just moved into the house, and after a
hectic and tiring day, Patty fell asleep on her couch
along with her five year old son Keith. Her other
five children are said to have been tucked into their beds,
and around midnight she woke up and was scared due
to the fact that there have been reports of a
prowler in the area. She gathered up her children and
took them to a friend's house down the street, where
she called the police. She had no phone of her own.
The family is described as discussing the events of the
previous night on the following morning and speculating about the
possibility of a prowler. Patty's seven year old daughter Dotty said, Mamma,
it wasn't a prowler, it was a spaceman. She is
said to have been adamant about this, in spite of
what anyone said. According to the account, Patty didn't think
about that night again until she picked up a copy
of Saga magazine in the spring of nineteen seventy five
and read accounts in there of people who'd claim to
have had UFO experiences. She wrote the magazine and they
turned the case over to Kevin Randall, a young field
investigator for APRO. Randall contacted APRO, saying he wanted to
look into the case and asked them to recommend the
case to one of the consultants proficient in hypnosis, and
Harder is the person they chose. When Randal talked to
the family, he learned that they had initially woken up
because Keith was screaming that he saw a skeleton in
the corner. Their cat was yowling, and a neighbor's dog
was barking furiously, and Patty decided then to go to
her friend's house. Dotty added to her account of the
space man and told a long story about a spaceship
and said to her mother, they didn't make me forget.
She described the craft, the creatures on it, and creatures
that had come into the house, and the oldest of
the children, Betty, agreed with Dotty and her descriptions. Randa
was convinced that something had happened that night, as there
were other reports of some one moving about the area,
and when he asked about Patty's character, those he spoke
with thought of her as a reliable person, so he
made arrangements for another meeting with Harder himself and the
family on July eighth, nineteen seventy five. That morning, hard
spoke with Patty and the children who had been involved,
and then put Patty into a slight trance. Patty described
a bright light, two figures standing over her, and said
Keith wasn't with her. She described the creatures as bright
and skinny, and said they were dressed like people in
the service. The story came out that she, Betty, Dotty, Keith,
and another child, Steve, were taken and she found herself
in a large, bright round room. She said she could
see the stars through the side toward the top. She
described four or five creatures in uniforms and machines like computers.
She said the creatures were cold blooded and didn't wanter
to know it, and that they treated her like a
guinea pig. She said she didn't remember being examined, but
knew that she was with coaxing from Harder. She described
the creatures in more detail, saying they were just over
four feet tall, very thin, with long arms, clawed hands
with small thumbs, large slanted eyes, and were wearing, in
the author's words, fluorescent clothing with sam brown belts impossibly gloves.
She then described being floated over the ground back to
the house and recounted how they had woken up and
gone to her friend's house. Hypnosis was attempted on Betty
later that night and Randall's hotel room. The house was
too noisy, however, when questioned about the creatures, she woke up.
This happened on the second attempt as well. Dotty was
then questioned without hypnosis, and she described a line of
people that included Betty and two neighbor boys waiting to
get on the machine. She said the creatures thought at
me with their heads. When questioned the next morning at
her home, she described two creatures being in the house,
one in the corner and one near the couch, and
said the one in the corner told her she wouldn't
be sick any more. Randal was said to have pointed
out in his report to Apro that she had been
very ill prior to the experience and was in good health. Afterwards,
Patty was put under again, and she recalled more about
the examination and said they had lots of machines. Harder
asked for some of those machines attached to you by
wires and got no response. She then said they put
me on a table and hooked me up on one
leg and one arm. She said angrily, I didn't like
their examination. Harder asked if it was a guide exam,
and she said that's part of it. I don't like
what they do with my head. She said they were
taking her thoughts. Asked how they did that, she said,
they put a needle in and they took my mind,
my thoughts. Another detail that came out was that there
was a human in the room examining her as well,
who was wearing horned rimmed glasses and was bald with
a fringe of gray on the sides. Patty spoke of
needles being pushed into her and being asked about her family,
what she loved and hated, and what animals she liked.
She said they need us. She also said they limited time,
and when asked what gave her the idea that their
time was limited, she explained, not amount of time. I
don't I don't know what it means. That night, both
Petty and Patty were put under together for one last session.
Patty was given pen and paper and was asked to
draw the alien, and the resulting picture is said to
have matched her description, but to have been more detailed,
Betty described seeing her mother nude on a table that floated.
She also drew a picture of the same number of
aliens described by her mother and included the human, and
it is noted that she hadn't heard her mother mention
the human. Patty recalled waking up and finding Keith on
the floor on a blanket, and finding Dotty and her
sister Mary in the bed where they slept together, but
with their positions reversed. Kevin Randall presents his thoughts on
the case in a blog headlined Alien abduction and Leading
the Witness, posted March twenty eighth, two thousand five, on
his blogspot dot com site. A different perspective, He identifies
Patty Price as pat Roach and says it is quite
clear to me that Roach was led into her more
detailed descriptions by doctor James Harder, who was looking for
some validation of the Hill abduction. It is also clear
that Roach took cues from the magazine article I had
written about another abduction. Her descriptions of the interior of
the craft, for example, mirrored those in that article. He
gives details of Harder's influence between sessions Harder discussed with
Roach other abduction cases. Just before the session in which
Roach revealed that she had been medically examined on the craft,
Harder told her about Betty Hill's examination on border Craft.
Harder's leading questions took her into other arenas. His conclusion
regarding the accounts given by Roach and her children is
this the genesis was the adult's episode of sleep paralysis,
and then two years of discussing this with her children
until some of them believed they had been abducted. Charles
Lear is the author of Crashed Saucers and Malevolent Aliens,
available at Amazon dot Com today