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Speaker 2: Indeed, what the hell? H Martin Thomas right here, glad
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Speaker 2: If not, we'll make it one. Try to anyway, and
Speaker 2: stick around all morning here on the fifty five ARC
Speaker 2: Morning Show. Should be rather interesting coming out first guest,
Speaker 2: Sarah Harringer. Yeah, she's going to be in studio for
Speaker 2: a full hour. Of course, I hope you know the
Speaker 2: name Sarah Herringer. Her husband Patrick Harringer Araringer stabbed to
Speaker 2: death and they're over the ruin apartment. Apparently he was
Speaker 2: quite the you know, business man, opened his own fitness
Speaker 2: business and friend of the community by all rights, just
Speaker 2: a really terrific person. She's been an outspoken critic of well,
Speaker 2: the City of Sincinnate generally speaking, law enforcement, you know,
Speaker 2: demanding changes and the way we I guess enforced the
Speaker 2: law and crime and everything else that's going on the
Speaker 2: city of Cincinnati. While the mayor of the City Cincinnati, uh, well,
Speaker 2: I don't know, you can evaluate his priorities. We will
Speaker 2: talk about that here in a moment. Whether he has
Speaker 2: properly prioritized his home life versus his obligations and duties
Speaker 2: as mayor of the City of Cincinnati during times of
Speaker 2: a significant crisis, which apparently we're currently dealing with here,
Speaker 2: and a crisis that has made the headlines globally. Yeah. Anyway,
Speaker 2: Sarah for a full hour in studio at seven five,
Speaker 2: followed by Secretary of State franklo Rose just got back
Speaker 2: from meeting with Trump regarding election integrity. Of course, as
Speaker 2: second Orry State, that'd be a role that Frank leros
Speaker 2: Haes got. We'll talk about that at atoh five. Jay Ratliffe,
Speaker 2: I Heart Media aviation expert, will also be on the
Speaker 2: program as he always is on Thursdays. At eight thirty,
Speaker 2: passenger evacuated from an aircraft when the tires had caught
Speaker 2: on fire. Saw the video of that one Wow. Delta
Speaker 2: Airlines pilot arrested shortly after the flight in landed in
Speaker 2: San Francisco. Kind of an interesting story that one United
Speaker 2: flight attendants reject a new contract and a twenty six
Speaker 2: percent pay raise. Joe, you get twenty six percent pay
Speaker 2: raise every year, don't you? Yeah? Every six months? Oh,
Speaker 2: that's right. They put you on the fast track schedule,
Speaker 2: just trecord, just wallowing in cash. That's one of the
Speaker 2: main reasons he has to work three jobs. And of
Speaker 2: course we always end up with hub delays. With Jay
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Speaker 2: Clairemont County Prosecutor Mark to call you on the program
Speaker 2: the tail end of the show yesterday, there is a
Speaker 2: special place in hell for Charlie Tettererman who's been convicted
Speaker 2: ninety three felony counts for molesting a teenage girl. He
Speaker 2: had a story details on that I mentioned yesterday when
Speaker 2: I was talking with Mark and the prosecutor, the assistant
Speaker 2: prosecutor who was responsible for the trial. That just brings
Speaker 2: bile up in the back of my throat. He videotaped
Speaker 2: every single one of his molestations, And I was puzzled
Speaker 2: by that because they showed every single one of the
Speaker 2: videos to the jury. And when I asked the assistant
Speaker 2: prosecutor about that, it's like, you know, the idea of
Speaker 2: being a juror and having to sit through that, you know,
Speaker 2: from a dividensiary standpoint, is it necessary? Because you know
Speaker 2: the victim was in court, the victim was cross examined
Speaker 2: by Charlie Fetterman, the guy that's got a special place
Speaker 2: in hell, the molester, the convicted molester. He represented himself
Speaker 2: a trial, which means he stood in front of her
Speaker 2: and asked her questions about it. Can you imagine? I
Speaker 2: think they said she was about fifteen sixteen years old
Speaker 2: when this molestations occurred. Can you imagine the vile, disgusting
Speaker 2: creature that molested you over and over again, despite your
Speaker 2: objections and protestations repeated, from what I understand, staring in
Speaker 2: front of you in a courtroom full of people, in
Speaker 2: twelve jurors, asking you questions about it. I just can't
Speaker 2: imagine the horror. But sentencing day coming up for Charlie Thennaman,
Speaker 2: and I am anxiously awaiting his being sentenced to four
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty years in prison, which, based upon the convictions,
Speaker 2: is what he's eligible for. So good luck, Charlie. They
Speaker 2: love child molesters in prison, love to point that out
Speaker 2: over and over again because somewhere in the listening audience,
Speaker 2: and I hate to acknowledge this, but you know what, Statistically,
Speaker 2: it's probably true. There is a person out there that
Speaker 2: is presently involved in molesting a young person. And to you,
Speaker 2: I am speaking, You're going to get caught, and the
Speaker 2: hell that you will face once in prison is beyond
Speaker 2: your wildest imagination. That's been the case, well documented for
Speaker 2: decades and decades. Good luck, Judge entereda Paula Tano not
Speaker 2: I tell you what. You listen to that one, and
Speaker 2: I think he is probably right on the wall. Sometimes
Speaker 2: we'll disagree, and sometimes my listeners say, I don't believe it,
Speaker 2: ken Trump, It just randomly and unilaterally issued tariffs and
Speaker 2: pick and choose the amount of tariffs and just say
Speaker 2: them out loud and make them happen. Or is that
Speaker 2: the authority that rests within the Congress under the Constitution,
Speaker 2: And the latter argument is probably going to prevail. That's
Speaker 2: what the lower court said. Already it's on the appeals court.
Speaker 2: I think the argument is today, So yeah, it does
Speaker 2: impact foreign policy. But because tariffs translates to taxation, that's
Speaker 2: a power that rests exclusively with the legislative brands, the
Speaker 2: power of the purse. So the aftermath if the court
Speaker 2: does say that he doesn't have these powers and that
Speaker 2: it is a tax and that he is who served
Speaker 2: congressional authority by unilaterally levying taxes, it's going to be
Speaker 2: I think I described it as a Charlie foxtrot. I
Speaker 2: had an exchange with one of my listeners about this.
Speaker 2: Everything that he's done, all the work that he's done
Speaker 2: to negotiate these trades deals with the various countries are
Speaker 2: going to be whipped wiped away, and that's going to
Speaker 2: be a mess, a real mess. So anyway, that's where
Speaker 2: we are. So wait a minute, where was the mayor?
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people were criticizing that in
Speaker 2: the aftermath of the the beatdown over the past weekend.
Speaker 2: Saturday morning, we've been talking about it a lot this week.
Speaker 2: Of course, it's dominating global news. Congratulations, multiple multiple articles,
Speaker 2: notably Councilwoman Parks, who said she was happy and that
Speaker 2: they suggesting that the victims begged for the beat down.
Speaker 2: That's made it nationally globally. Congratulations Victoria Parks. I know
Speaker 2: you're not running for re election, and I guess it's
Speaker 2: a good thing because she previously announced she was not
Speaker 2: going to be running for a future office. That's a
Speaker 2: good thing. Go retire because you haven't put yourself or
Speaker 2: endeared yourself to well anyone with your comments. But that's
Speaker 2: being widely reported all over this great land of ours.
Speaker 2: But where was the mayor question? A lot of people
Speaker 2: have been asking, because we didn't hear from him for
Speaker 2: a couple of days after the tragedy. Purval, mayor Aftab
Speaker 2: was in Vancouver on a long planned family vacation. Now
Speaker 2: he was at a mayoral conference, but you know what
Speaker 2: he got from got back from that apparently the day
Speaker 2: before the beatdown. Purval said he found out about the
Speaker 2: fight before he left for his Vancouver family vacation on
Speaker 2: July twenty six. He found out about the fight. Let
Speaker 2: me emphasize that before he left, speaking to Cincinnati inquire
Speaker 2: Scott Wartman reporting Parlol decided to take the trip, he said,
Speaker 2: because it was the last time he could take a
Speaker 2: family vacation before his five year old son started kindergarten
Speaker 2: and Cincinnati City Council resumes next week after the summer recess. Quote,
Speaker 2: this was a long planned family trip and celebration of
Speaker 2: my son. I take my role as mayor very seriously.
Speaker 2: But I also take my role as husband and father
Speaker 2: seriously as well. Now I'll concede family comes first. Family
Speaker 2: comes first. But he's flying back today, saying he cut
Speaker 2: his vacation four days short to arrive back in Cincinnati tonight,
Speaker 2: originally planning to come back August fourth, and he said
Speaker 2: he will be making an announcement tomorrow about how the
Speaker 2: city will combat crime and address public safety concerns. Didn't
Speaker 2: reveal any more details ahead of the announcement. Apparently probably
Speaker 2: doesn't have any details. What can he possibly say is
Speaker 2: going to magically come up with a solution to combat
Speaker 2: crime and address public safety overnight. We'll see. But I'm
Speaker 2: struggling to reconcile that he knew about this viral video.
Speaker 2: He knew about the fight the beat down before he
Speaker 2: left for his trip. Now he didn't have an opportunity
Speaker 2: to make some kind of statement. I'm aware of the incident.
Speaker 2: I criticize it. It's that what I've seen, it's inexcusable,
Speaker 2: it's unacceptable. This is not human behavior, this is animalistic behavior.
Speaker 2: Pick some words, put them together in the string of sentences.
Speaker 2: I would love to address this, but I've got a
Speaker 2: long standing family trip. My son's getting ready to go
Speaker 2: back to school. I'll be in constant communication with the
Speaker 2: elected officials. I am on the job in spite of
Speaker 2: the fact that I'm not on the job. And hell,
Speaker 2: I'll even participate in a video conference that two days
Speaker 2: after because people want to hear from me, which is
Speaker 2: exactly what he did. So he's on vacation, he has
Speaker 2: an opportunity to get online and participate in a video conference.
Speaker 2: All right, you can draw your own conclusion, say you
Speaker 2: read the right decision going to the family vacation first,
Speaker 2: but with the chaos that ensued, this is a I
Speaker 2: mean and again, it's a viral thing. It's gone out
Speaker 2: over the entire world. Couldn't you have delayed the departure
Speaker 2: for your family vacation by a couple of days to
Speaker 2: address this. Get all your ducks in a row, make
Speaker 2: the meetings, plan the meetings, head on off the vacation.
Speaker 2: Rather than cut the tail into the vacation off. I
Speaker 2: don't know. It's easy for me to second guest mayor,
Speaker 2: Aftab provol I guess given the current circumstances, but like,
Speaker 2: where's Waldo? Where's the mayor? In the several days following
Speaker 2: the beatdown, in all the social media comments and the
Speaker 2: fact that it went viral across this country, Oh okay,
Speaker 2: he's in Vancouver. Maybe his office should have issued an
Speaker 2: announcement to that effect while we all stood around, I
Speaker 2: mean even Corey Bowman's like he asked out loud the
Speaker 2: very question where's the mayor on his social media account
Speaker 2: the following day, no one apparently knew would have been
Speaker 2: nice to keep us in the loop there, Aftab. We
Speaker 2: are in a moment in time that requires strong leadership.
Speaker 2: My listening audience decided whether we have strong leadership here
Speaker 2: in the city of Cincinnati. Steve hang on, brother, I
Speaker 2: just looked up and saw you on the line. I'll
Speaker 2: be more than happy to take your call, but I
Speaker 2: am out of time. In the segment, actually over, It's
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Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 2: Joe believes he mayor aftem Pebo was throwing his five
Speaker 2: year old child under the bus by using the five
Speaker 2: year old child in the family vacation to Vancouver as
Speaker 2: the reason he wasn't around or remained silent. Maybe there's
Speaker 2: a little bus throwing there. But if you're five and
Speaker 2: dad tells you that you're not going to be going
Speaker 2: to Vancouver, is that going to register with you? Do
Speaker 2: you even know what Vancouver is? Do you have any
Speaker 2: idea what you're going to experience when you go to Vancouver?
Speaker 2: Joe wanted to know what's in Vancouver. I suggested there
Speaker 2: were trees there British Columbia. But sorry, son, we're not
Speaker 2: gonna be going to Vancouver. I got to delay the
Speaker 2: trip a couple of days because the city is on
Speaker 2: fire and I've got a job to do as the mayor.
Speaker 2: Should the kid be like, oh okay, he just said
Speaker 2: he should have taken him to chuck e cheese probably
Speaker 2: would have been happier. Steve, Thank you so much for
Speaker 2: indulging me while I got that out of my system.
Speaker 2: And for holding over the break. Welcome to the morning show.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, you might be disappointed with this phone call
Speaker 3: because I'm going to repeat what I've said half dozen
Speaker 3: times on your show before and kind of what you
Speaker 3: just said before you went to commercial break. But I
Speaker 3: had already maken a phone call. But what's what's in Vancouver?
Speaker 6: He said?
Speaker 3: Trees Monkey, Python might say the large yeah, for that
Speaker 3: being one of their skits, and I don't remember much
Speaker 3: about it other than the word sounded funny. So you're
Speaker 3: not supposed to criticize him, because then you're criticizing a
Speaker 3: poor little five year old boy, and you're being mean
Speaker 3: to a five year old. So he is using him
Speaker 3: as a shield. But here's what I've said many times.
Speaker 3: I would make a horrible mayor because I'm the I
Speaker 3: don't have leadership skills. I'm a follower, not a leader.
Speaker 3: Just plug away, you know, a punch of time clock whatever.
Speaker 3: He doesn't. He's not a leader, but he is in
Speaker 3: a leadership position. That's why he is silent. That's why
Speaker 3: when he says something, it's through zoom, it's something pre recorded.
Speaker 3: He doesn't know what to do. He thinks it'll go away.
Speaker 3: He's a DEM's he's looking for his next step up.
Speaker 3: This is just a temporary job for him. He's trying
Speaker 3: to move up. If Harris had been elected, he had
Speaker 3: been Washington, DC doing something right now. He has no
Speaker 3: leadership skills. It is an obligation of anybody in a
Speaker 3: position like that to post a schedule. You don't need
Speaker 3: to say we're staying at my mother in law's house
Speaker 3: or this hotel or whatever. To say we're on a
Speaker 3: family vacation, we're leaving this day, we're coming back that day.
Speaker 3: You make that public. Here's another figure that did this
Speaker 3: quite a few years ago, when she was Speaker of
Speaker 3: the House. Nancy Pelosi became ill in the Vatican Rome, Italy,
Speaker 3: and she became ill, and we flew her back here
Speaker 3: or whatever. Nobody knew she was even there, at taxpayer expense.
Speaker 3: She takes vacations all over the place. They should have
Speaker 3: to publicize vacations they're taking. They should have to indicate. Now,
Speaker 3: this one, I'm sure is out of his own wallet,
Speaker 3: but public officials should have to indicate, I am on
Speaker 3: a taxpayer funded trip to Vaticans whatever. But the only
Speaker 3: reason we ever found out that she was there is
Speaker 3: because she got sick. Otherwise we wouldn't have known she
Speaker 3: was sucking money.
Speaker 7: Out of us.
Speaker 3: So that's it, just again a typical non leader in
Speaker 3: a leadership position.
Speaker 2: Appreciate your observation, Steve. Although I will say, in these
Speaker 2: modern days, letting people know you are going to be
Speaker 2: out of town with your entire family suggests to the
Speaker 2: entire world, because we have the Internet, that your house
Speaker 2: is empty, creating an opportunity for a burglary or breaking
Speaker 2: or something along those lines. And I understand that, but
Speaker 2: in times of crisis, in a leadership role, you should
Speaker 2: at least let people know, maybe not in events you
Speaker 2: were going to be out of town because of the
Speaker 2: aforementioned concerns we all have now. But the reason I
Speaker 2: haven't done anything is because I'm out of town. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I apologize, but you got to issue a statement of
Speaker 2: some sort. That's what leaders do. I'm not absent, I'm
Speaker 2: on the job, I'm paying attention, I'm talking with people,
Speaker 2: but I am on vacation, which is why I'm not
Speaker 2: standing in front of the population of the city of
Speaker 2: Cincinnati in a meeting, in a press conference answering questions.
Speaker 2: I'm in Vancouver. But I think the most troubling component
Speaker 2: of this thing is he left for his family vacation
Speaker 2: sometime later in the day, the day of the beatdown,
Speaker 2: which had already gone viral. The silence is under those circumstances,
Speaker 2: the silence is particularly deafening. Five point twenty six. Right now,
Speaker 2: local stories or phone calls. Maybe Tom will call in.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I love talking to people, so
Speaker 2: feel free to chime in and offer your opinion on
Speaker 2: these matters. I'll be right back.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Richard Richard from Ludlow, Kentucky. Please read again
Speaker 2: Mayor dumb Bab's original statement, but use monotone to emphasize
Speaker 2: his mediocrity. Thank goodness, I live in Kentucky. I chimed
Speaker 2: in a day. Aren't you glad you're a Kentucky resident. Yes, indeed,
Speaker 2: let's go to the phone. See what Tom's got this morning. Hey, Tom,
Speaker 2: I'm hoping you would call Welcome to the morning show.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, good morning. It's it's easy to bash on
Speaker 8: that path, isn't it. It's too easy. You actually have
Speaker 8: to make yourself pat the brakes because it's just too easy.
Speaker 8: It's like it's like you're driving a car down the hill.
Speaker 8: I mean, the guy just gives us so much material.
Speaker 2: Low hanging fruit.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you ain't lying. See that reminds me yesterday. Yesterday
Speaker 8: you took a stop ball and put it on a
Speaker 8: tee for Joe for the uh for the phrasing button,
Speaker 8: and he just didn't nothing. U. It was the h oh,
Speaker 8: it was the thing they got thrown on the basketball
Speaker 8: court the end of w NBA game. Like what we're
Speaker 8: all stitting here waiting for the phrasing button.
Speaker 2: That's all right, Joe, Joe does do things.
Speaker 8: Like Joseph busy man. Joseph very busy man. Is to
Speaker 8: uh yeah, to to your point, as the uh, as
Speaker 8: the mayor, you gotta be ready to make a statement,
Speaker 8: uh at least something anything like you said. He could
Speaker 8: have done it before he left town. I don't criticize
Speaker 8: the man for taking a vacation. And then to to
Speaker 8: Steve's point, what the hell is he gonna do about it?
Speaker 7: Anyway?
Speaker 8: At that time, he's got you know, the chief of police,
Speaker 8: he's got detectives and stuff like that. He's not gonna
Speaker 8: be able to do anything. So so point, he's done. Ahead,
Speaker 8: go on your vacation. We'll keep your post that.
Speaker 9: I got no.
Speaker 2: Problem with that, but say something to.
Speaker 8: Joe's point though. You know, I was watching the uh
Speaker 8: watching the video, and I knew it reminded me of something.
Speaker 8: I've seen a scene like that before, of the of
Speaker 8: the beatdown on Fourth and Elm, and it hit me
Speaker 8: with Joe. When you relay Joe's comments, have you been
Speaker 8: in a Chucky Cheese lately? It's it's absolute delement.
Speaker 2: That's a Walmart of restaurants.
Speaker 8: And by the way, it's not just not just the
Speaker 8: kids that are involved in the strong. I mean the
Speaker 8: last time I walked into one was a cold range.
Speaker 8: It has since been shut down by two or three
Speaker 8: years now at least, and it was absolute nahem in there.
Speaker 8: I took the family, turned around and walked out that
Speaker 8: I am not.
Speaker 4: Dealing with this.
Speaker 8: That was that was absolutely done. Uh So Yeah, I
Speaker 8: mean then so so to you know, instead of taking
Speaker 8: him a chuck E Cheese, he just could have taken
Speaker 8: his kid down to fourth and all. Then he would
Speaker 8: have been roughly the same experience King's Island.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just gonna say that Joe King's Island
Speaker 2: I mean, you would a five year old rather go
Speaker 2: whale watching in British Columbia or go to Kings Island.
Speaker 8: I think he cut his trip short because the five
Speaker 8: year old was probably being a bord. So yeah, exact
Speaker 8: it was all about the five year old.
Speaker 5: But Joe looked up.
Speaker 2: In response to my comments like what's in Vancouver? Joe
Speaker 2: looked it up and apparently lots of botanical gardens, lots
Speaker 2: of lots of shopping, and whale watching as well as
Speaker 2: ghost tours, right yeah, ghost tours right on.
Speaker 8: Hey, all you people out there that are listening to
Speaker 8: this and and understand the quote unquote leadership that we
Speaker 8: have in the city of Cincinnati, and it only you
Speaker 8: can only We're all one conclusion. Don't vote Democrat. Have
Speaker 8: a great day, right, Thank.
Speaker 2: You, Tom always waiting for the catchphrase. Uh v Vake
Speaker 2: Ramaswamy hosted the other day and I got a note
Speaker 2: about from this from Christopher Smith and he said I
Speaker 2: spoke to friends and local leaders and since any about
Speaker 2: crime and risk in the city, I'm hosting a town
Speaker 2: hall in Cincinnati on Monday along with Christopher smithmen former
Speaker 2: vice mayor and former president in the WAACP to have
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Speaker 2: who plied to a vice, city officials, community leaders, and
Speaker 2: any of the victims from Friday's assault wh wish to participate.
Speaker 2: When people feel afraid to speak their minds, that's when
Speaker 2: frustration festers and we can't let that happen. Open dialogue
Speaker 2: is the way forward, as we demonstrated in Springfield last fall.
Speaker 2: Ill announce further details later this week. So soon as
Speaker 2: we get the details on where and the when, and
Speaker 2: I'm more than happy to pass along to the listening audience.
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Speaker 2: may I have to have purvall show up to that one?
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Speaker 2: in the absence of phone calls, which we have. Uh,
Speaker 2: what's with the Reds? The Cincinnati Reds made it in
Speaker 2: the stack of stupid this morning. Came in this morning,
Speaker 2: right on top of the stack of stupid. A color
Speaker 2: photograph of the video the giant JumboTron video screen at
Speaker 2: the Great American Ballpark with a photograph of community activist
Speaker 2: Iris Rawley, who was given the Community Advocate Award by
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Reds. This on the heels of her face
Speaker 2: on her online post regarding the beatdown. He deserved it,
Speaker 2: all of it. Note some follow up reporting on this
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Speaker 2: wing a podcast the other day she along with the
Speaker 2: NAAC president David Whitehead, who also suggested that the folks
Speaker 2: who got the beat deserved it. He tried he was backpedaling,
Speaker 2: of course, and so was Iris Wally. We were having
Speaker 2: a contentious banter back and forth, she said when she
Speaker 2: posted he deserved it, all of it, which the vast
Speaker 2: majority of people with clear thinking heads, logic and reasoning
Speaker 2: skills took to be directed at, of course the man
Speaker 2: who was beaten, or both of the people who were beaten.
Speaker 2: But she did say he She tried to backpedal and
Speaker 2: said that he that I'm referring to is Andre Ewing,
Speaker 2: the former CINCINNT police officer. Andre was on the program
Speaker 2: last week Tuesday. This week actually outspoken community activist Andre Ewing.
Speaker 2: He had a lot of things to say, including don't
Speaker 2: go downtown when having large events, so she's trying to
Speaker 2: backpedal her way out of it. And congratulations for winning
Speaker 2: the Community Advocate Award whatever, Thank you, Liam. Wow do
Speaker 2: you think they had decided to give that award out
Speaker 2: before the brawl over the weekend her online post or
Speaker 2: do you think this was a decision that was made
Speaker 2: after she stepped in it? That's where Joe's going. Why
Speaker 2: would the reds endeavor to bolster her credibility in the
Speaker 2: aftermath of a ridiculous statement like that? Talk amongst yourselves,
Speaker 2: you come up with an answer. Please let me know.
Speaker 2: Another stupid h the smoking gun. They provide some good
Speaker 2: material for the stack of stupid married couple facing felony
Speaker 2: charges after they joined the Mile High Club. On a
Speaker 2: Jet Blue flight over the weekend, Tristan Riley forty two,
Speaker 2: and Christopher Arnold, forty three traveling to Sarasota, Florida, from
Speaker 2: John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York when they
Speaker 2: allegedly engaged in what is described in the complaint as
Speaker 2: lude or lascivious exhibition. Flight attendant told police to quote
Speaker 2: several youths and their mother had witnessed Riley and Arnold
Speaker 2: performing in sexual performing sexual activity on board the Jet
Speaker 2: Blue flight one p. Sixty three. Excuse me when the
Speaker 2: flight attendant guid damed Brian's upp walked to Miss Riley's
Speaker 2: seating area in the twenty fifth row. He witnessed her
Speaker 2: making up and down movements with her head while she
Speaker 2: was faced down on mister Arnold's lap. Joe, what do
Speaker 2: you think was going on there? Searching his pocket for
Speaker 2: you think a lozenge, maybe a chapstick, roll of life
Speaker 2: savers or something. And I can't even read the further description.
Speaker 2: An investigation indicate of miss Riley was seen by two
Speaker 2: underads us performing well an oral act and well something
Speaker 2: involving her hand. Let's just leave it at that. The
Speaker 2: witness statement female pastor who was flying with her two children,
Speaker 2: said that during the takeoff, she spotted the woman later
Speaker 2: identified as Riley Yes, performing a physical act on her
Speaker 2: male companion. She noted, this is a quote from the passengers.
Speaker 2: She noticed my two kids was watching them, and they
Speaker 2: didn't stop after that. She was laying on him as
Speaker 2: if she was performing this particular oral act. Riley described
Speaker 2: as a medical receptionist, Arnold, a general contractor. Rested upon
Speaker 2: the July nineteenth flight's arrival in Sarasota. The two live
Speaker 2: in Danbury, Connecticut, were booked into the County jail Freedom Monday,
Speaker 2: Prosecutors agreed to the couple's release on their own recognizance
Speaker 2: while they investigate jurisdiction. Jurisdiction becoming a question because I
Speaker 2: guess they were flying over multiple states on their trip.
Speaker 2: You know how long it is a flight of that?
Speaker 2: I mean, what is that?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 2: A two and a half hour flight? You can't wait,
Speaker 2: although Joe says he thinks it beats going to Vancouver.
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Speaker 2: a full hour. Widow Sarah Herringerry lost her husband Patrick
Speaker 2: and that tragic, tragic murder at their apartment in downtown Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: calling for reforms across the board, and she is not
Speaker 2: backing down. Really impressive woman she is. So that's at
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Speaker 2: We have radioactive wasps found near a nuclear facility in
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Speaker 2: Officer said the ground and surrounding area did not have
Speaker 2: any contamination. Okay. A Louisiana woman rather New Orleans facing
Speaker 2: felony charges after the state Attorney General's officer suden she
Speaker 2: fraudulently obtained medicaid benefits while generating millions in business revenue.
Speaker 2: Ah Yes, thirty five year old Cannice tailor arrested Monday
Speaker 2: by Louisiana Bureau of Investigation Court of the Records. Investigations
Speaker 2: started with a complaint from Louisiana Department of Health alleging
Speaker 2: that she committed Medicaid recipient fraud by underreporting her income.
Speaker 2: They say she applied for Medicaid in twenty nineteen under
Speaker 2: an alias can and This Sailor, listing biweekly income of
Speaker 2: nineteen hundred dollars and no dependence. That application denied less
Speaker 2: than a year later, though she reapplied using the same
Speaker 2: alias and inconsistent information, and then between twenty twenty and
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, she's accused of misrepresenting, concealing, and failing
Speaker 2: to disclose financial information in order to receive government healthcare assistance.
Speaker 2: During that time, they say her various businesses generated more
Speaker 2: than nine and a half million dollars in revenue across
Speaker 2: multiple accounts that were under her control, and despite claiming
Speaker 2: no income at all. In twenty twenty, they say her
Speaker 2: financial records show more than four hundred and eighty thousand
Speaker 2: dollars in deposits, including luxury expenders expenditures over forty five
Speaker 2: grand in vehicle payments to Audi Finance, multiple six figure
Speaker 2: cashiers checks used for property purchases, cosmetic surgery, and high
Speaker 2: end jewelry, which also reportedly wired one hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 2: to an exotic car dealership and made thirteen thousand dollars
Speaker 2: in debit card payment debit card payments towards Are you
Speaker 2: ready a twenty twenty two Lamborghini urus do?
Speaker 1: What the hell?
Speaker 2: Two months after purchasing the Lamborghini, she reapplied for medicaid,
Speaker 2: this time reporting two thousand dollars a month in income
Speaker 2: and failing to disclose her ownership of any business. After
Speaker 2: the investigation agents secured an arrest warrant on one count
Speaker 2: of government benefits fraud booked into the East Baton Rouge
Speaker 2: Parish prison on Monday, and the investigation remains ongoing. You,
Speaker 2: my friends, you paid for that. You worked so that
Speaker 2: she could builk the system and get free benefits when
Speaker 2: she clearly had absolutely no need for them. What the hell? Oh, oh,
Speaker 2: let's go to Japan as opposed to Vancouver. Joe, that
Speaker 2: was my microphone falling off of the stand, Folks. I've
Speaker 2: been having struggles with this. I don't want to say
Speaker 2: it's been sabotaged, but the little nut that holds a
Speaker 2: microphone on the stand just happens to sort of work
Speaker 2: its way out throughout the day. All I'm constantly tightening
Speaker 2: this thing, so apologies for that crash was certainly unintended. Quickly, though,
Speaker 2: Let's go to japan authorities on highlightight after up to
Speaker 2: sixteen thousand plastic toy guns used as prizes in claw
Speaker 2: machines across the country were determined to be able to
Speaker 2: fire live ammunition. National Policy Agency issue of warning that
Speaker 2: thousands of illegal firearms are being offered as prizes at
Speaker 2: claw machines around the Asian country. Authorities scrambling to get
Speaker 2: a recall out the real gimmick mini revolver imported Japan
Speaker 2: from China's crane for these crane games. The brightly colored
Speaker 2: plastic toy seems harmless. Its technical specifications suggested that it
Speaker 2: was capable of being used however, as an actual firearm
Speaker 2: comes with eight plastic bullets that can be used to
Speaker 2: paying various objects, But the NPA found that the gun
Speaker 2: could also potentially be used to fire live ammunition. Is
Speaker 2: that a design defect? Five six fifty five kerr ce
Speaker 2: de talk station or an intentional use of the mechanics
Speaker 2: of the firearm. Jay, take your call right out of
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Speaker 2: Everyone a very happy Thursday, flash Friday. And before I'd
Speaker 2: go to the phones, Jay's been kind enough to hold
Speaker 2: you can feel free to call as well. Love hearing
Speaker 2: people's comments. Five on three seven four nine fifty five
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Speaker 2: fast Forward one hour. Sarah Heninger, widow of Patrick Aeron Drew,
Speaker 2: who was stabbed to death in their apartment in downtown Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: She's been an outspoken advocate critic. She's got ideas for
Speaker 2: changing the realities of the city of Cincinnati. Of course,
Speaker 2: on the heels of the weekend violence. It's got a
Speaker 2: very important message passed along. Should be in studio coming
Speaker 2: up in an hour for a full hour. So God
Speaker 2: bless her and thank her for trying to do something.
Speaker 2: A lot of people's experience tragedy, and you know, they
Speaker 2: just wallow in misery, and I understand that on some level,
Speaker 2: and others kind of like they're not going to stand
Speaker 2: for this and they want to do something to change it.
Speaker 2: So it's something somebody else doesn't experience the same thing,
Speaker 2: and that's the path that Sarah has taken. God bless
Speaker 2: her for it. Eight o five Secretary of State Frank
Speaker 2: LeRose just got back with a meeting from with Donald
Speaker 2: Trump regarding election integrity. We'll hear from Frank at eight five.
Speaker 2: Jay Ratlife, I heard media aviation expert every Thursday at
Speaker 2: eight thirty. Quite a few topics talk about with Jay,
Speaker 2: as is typically the case, so let us head over
Speaker 2: to the phones. Jay, thank you so much for holding.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the program. Good to hear from you today.
Speaker 9: Good morning, Brian.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I heard you say Medicaid crad and it's like
Speaker 7: putting up warm on a hook and throwing it out
Speaker 7: in the water. I can't help myself.
Speaker 8: I have to get the BA.
Speaker 2: It reminded me of the pod.
Speaker 7: I listened to the podcast of John Houston last week,
Speaker 7: and you had to be tasting blood in your mouth
Speaker 7: from biting your tongue when you brought up medicaid fraud.
Speaker 7: And he said something I'm the paraphrase that, Yeah, there's
Speaker 7: a lot of bad states out.
Speaker 4: There with a lot of medicaid fraud.
Speaker 7: And part of the big beautiful bill is those states
Speaker 7: are going to have to pay extra in order to
Speaker 7: make up for the fraud that they induced. And if
Speaker 7: that's true, we all better pack our bags and get
Speaker 7: out of Ohio because if you've property taxes pad, when
Speaker 7: we get hit with our medicaid fraud surcharge being it,
Speaker 7: we're the worst in the nation. Uh, that's gonna be
Speaker 7: a pretty big bill if that's really coming. And I
Speaker 7: found it, I guess I won't say odd. I I
Speaker 7: noticed he dodged the fact that Ohio was worse in
Speaker 7: the nation with medicaid fraud. And he sat beside the
Speaker 7: guy who owns it. He didn't known it. I Housta
Speaker 7: didn't known it, but his boss did. That Medicaid department
Speaker 7: in Ohio rolls up directly under the wine. And as
Speaker 7: Jennifer Gross pointed out in a podcast maybe a few
Speaker 7: months ago that there was money going into Ohio conference
Speaker 7: for every able bodied person that we can get on medicaid.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 7: To me, that's criminal and that ought to be investigated,
Speaker 7: but Houston didn't bring that up unfortunately. So I'm gonna
Speaker 7: I'm gonna remember that.
Speaker 2: Well, the you know, the expansion of Medicaid. What do
Speaker 2: they use COVID as a as an excuse for that
Speaker 2: one to allow you know, able bodied people under certain
Speaker 2: income level will apply. That's part of the ultimate goal,
Speaker 2: I mean, putting every person in the United States under
Speaker 2: one insurance umbrella. They wanted to be Medicaid. I mean
Speaker 2: they want to expand it to the point where that
Speaker 2: that's the default. It's not Obamacare, it's not Medicare, it's
Speaker 2: Medicaid for all.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And it goes back to the kask administration. Whenever Obamacare
Speaker 7: first came out, they said, let's lower the bar and
Speaker 7: the federal government.
Speaker 9: Will pay for it.
Speaker 7: Kaseik took the deals the wine was against it until
Speaker 7: he got into office. Fifteen minutes after he got into
Speaker 7: office and saw that the money was coming in, then
Speaker 7: all of a sudden, he was for it. But he
Speaker 7: was against it before he was for it.
Speaker 2: But isn't it I mean, work with me on this one, Jay,
Speaker 2: because I'm struggling on this. You expand Medicaid, that just
Speaker 2: means a number of medical insurance or medical claims. You've
Speaker 2: got to play expands. Yes, the federal government was funding
Speaker 2: that expansion, but what does the state get? I mean,
Speaker 2: what do we get in return for that. It's money
Speaker 2: comes in from the federal government, but it went out
Speaker 2: the door in the form of payments to hot It's
Speaker 2: a medical it's like a zero sum game. We don't
Speaker 2: get anything from it except expanding a social welfare program.
Speaker 7: We don't. But Columbus does budget and take a look
Speaker 7: at what the Jennifer Gross laid it out better than
Speaker 7: I'm going to be able to. But there was money
Speaker 7: going into Ohio's coffers. And if you take a look
Speaker 7: at a timeline from the time that Obamacare got rolled out,
Speaker 7: and it was nineteen red states that took that deal.
Speaker 7: Why are Republican states taking a deal from Obama other
Speaker 7: than follow the money. So there was a deal that
Speaker 7: there was, there was some payment going into state coffers,
Speaker 7: and they sold their soul and their conservative values whenever
Speaker 7: they found out that they were getting going to get
Speaker 7: federal money. So you and I agree that it comes
Speaker 7: that's left pocket, right pocket. We paid the the Feds
Speaker 7: take it, and they give a few dimes back to
Speaker 7: the states. Well, if you're the CEO of the state,
Speaker 7: you really don't care because you've got stuff and things
Speaker 7: in your next election that you're running for and to
Speaker 7: help with the people, the the citizens of Ohio or
Speaker 7: whatever state you're running. It's all about me, and therein
Speaker 7: lies the problem.
Speaker 2: So do you think the money that the benefit to
Speaker 2: the politicians is that the providers wanted this because they
Speaker 2: would be able to treat more patients and build more charges.
Speaker 2: I mean that they seem to be the only ultimate
Speaker 2: recipients of any expansion of Medicaid that's got a larger
Speaker 2: patient pool.
Speaker 7: Well, it could be let's go down that path. The
Speaker 7: GDP of your state starts going up. You start getting
Speaker 7: all this money going into healthcare. They remember that that
Speaker 7: came out of the Diwined administration, along with all the
Speaker 7: other perks that you get. Because I still think that
Speaker 7: Jennifer Gross said that there was money going into Ohio.
Speaker 7: There was a financial incentive for every able body person
Speaker 7: that they could put on medicaid. I'll have to go
Speaker 7: back and listen to it. Or better yet, if she's listening,
Speaker 7: would be great if she call in and straighten us
Speaker 7: out on this. But she laid it out in clear
Speaker 7: terms that there was a financial upside, but they're real causes.
Speaker 7: Whenever the states became the whores and the federal government
Speaker 7: became the pimp. This is the type of behavior that
Speaker 7: the founding fathers were scared to death of. And it
Speaker 7: doesn't seem like there's any push to make states great
Speaker 7: again and get the federal government into a much smaller role.
Speaker 7: And until we do that, this sort of shady, scummy
Speaker 7: behavior will continue. It doesn't matter if it's a D
Speaker 7: or an R sitting in the governor's mansions of red states.
Speaker 2: Well, and the fraud case that I read about the
Speaker 2: woman who bought a Lamborghini and made millions of dollars
Speaker 2: bushers receiving medicaid, it's just illustrative of thousands and thousands
Speaker 2: and thousands of other cases. It's the point that these large, massive,
Speaker 2: multi multi billion, if not trillion dollar government programs are
Speaker 2: incapable of monitoring the propriety of any given recipient. They
Speaker 2: just there's too much opportunity for fraud, waste, and abuse.
Speaker 2: It's one of those things where there's not And I'm
Speaker 2: saying this knowing full well this flies in the face
Speaker 2: of everything I stand for. There aren't enough people in
Speaker 2: government to monitor it. It's like you need a massive,
Speaker 2: million person accounting firm that can micro manage the propriety
Speaker 2: of any given claim under medicaid, and there's just not
Speaker 2: the ability to do that. And people realize that, and
Speaker 2: so like, listen, they're not minding the store. I'm going
Speaker 2: to sign up for it, even though I make millions
Speaker 2: of dollars a year. Why not give it a shot.
Speaker 2: Everybody else is doing it. They don't know what's going on.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would agree one hundred percent, which is why
Speaker 7: it needs to be pushed back to the state and
Speaker 7: every state figure out if they want to do some
Speaker 7: sort of medicaid program and with the state funded on
Speaker 7: the state's funds versus it being federal. Along with so
Speaker 7: many other federal programs that ought to be pushed back
Speaker 7: to the state, and that would be the only way
Speaker 7: to take care of this. We're seeing now the Columbus
Speaker 7: is starting to talk about we're going to have to
Speaker 7: really trim up our budgets and we're really going to
Speaker 7: have to start doing something different here that's property tax,
Speaker 7: but that's also that sweet medicaid fraud money is going
Speaker 7: to start drying up, and that is going to cause
Speaker 7: a big problem in states that have been living off that,
Speaker 7: like Ohio. But anyways, the point is that Houston had
Speaker 7: a point to say that, hey, we're guilty, we were
Speaker 7: part of it. He dodged that, unfortunately for him. Yeah, anyways,
Speaker 7: have a good.
Speaker 2: Day, Brian, Thank you, Jay, Thank you Jay. And the
Speaker 2: extent we have to pay back more or I don't
Speaker 2: know how I or you as taxpayers are going to
Speaker 2: be personally responsible for any you know, prior failures on
Speaker 2: the part of the state of will Hire, any other
Speaker 2: state that didn't get on top of fraud, waste and
Speaker 2: abuse in medicaid. I suspect it's going to have to
Speaker 2: be a budget line item. Somebody's going to have to
Speaker 2: carve away funding from some other area of government funding
Speaker 2: in order to account for the additional money we might
Speaker 2: have to pay out. Just speculating I currently do. It's like,
Speaker 2: I have no idea how we're going to take care
Speaker 2: of that. But again, giant government programs equal in all cases,
Speaker 2: a lot of fraud, waste and abuse. Six fifteen fifty
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Speaker 2: Christopher Smithlan just released a post. Here's what he had
Speaker 2: to say at vote smithlan x account since the council member,
Speaker 2: Victoria Parks should resign her position after her public post
Speaker 2: that citizens who were viciously attacked downtown begged for that
Speaker 2: beat down her words, the woman who was the recipient
Speaker 2: of that severe blow to the face and knockout. Holly
Speaker 2: is her first name. Picture now being widely circulated around
Speaker 2: the internet, posted by quite a few people. She looks terrible.
Speaker 2: She has got eight an amazing black eye, bruised cheeks,
Speaker 2: swollen lips. Just man, I pray for her. I hope
Speaker 2: she's gonna recover and isn't learn any long term problems.
Speaker 2: But Christopher Smith been demanding the resignation of Victoria Parks.
Speaker 2: It's interesting because since any inquirer reached out to her
Speaker 2: because of that statement begged for that beat down, she's
Speaker 2: drawing her own conclusions before all the evidence is in. So,
Speaker 2: according to the reporting from Scott Warburn to the inquiry,
Speaker 2: Parks did not respond to multiple messages Wednesday seeking comment.
Speaker 2: Park's office in Cincinny City Hall was dark and the
Speaker 2: door was locked on Wednesday afternoon. When the inquiry reporter knocked,
Speaker 2: there was no answer. She's currently Mia much in the
Speaker 2: way the mayor have to have. Purvall was mi Ia
Speaker 2: until he announced yesterday that, oh, by the way, I
Speaker 2: was in town Saturday. Yeah, I was back for my
Speaker 2: mayor's conference in Cleveland that I was there at on Friday.
Speaker 2: Got back Friday evening. I guess he was in town
Speaker 2: Saturday morning. In spite of the fact that the video
Speaker 2: had already gone viral, he went ahead and went on
Speaker 2: vacation with his family to Vancouver. Yeah, and he said
Speaker 2: since any choire Scott Warman talked to him. Purvoll said
Speaker 2: he found out about the fight before he left for
Speaker 2: his trip on July twenty sixth. Now, Joe's been critical
Speaker 2: that he's now standing behind his five year old child
Speaker 2: talking about family needs. My five year old son. This
Speaker 2: is all about my five year old kids going off
Speaker 2: to kindergarten. We didn't want to break up this family
Speaker 2: trip to Vancouver, British Columbia. But my criticisman you could
Speaker 2: have said something before you left Eric's statement condemning the
Speaker 2: violins or whatever. I mean, It's not that difficult to do.
Speaker 2: Have one of your minions do it for you, prepare
Speaker 2: a statement for you, I'm heading off to the airport
Speaker 2: with my family. Would you do me a favor and
Speaker 2: say the mayor is aware of this. He he knows
Speaker 2: about it, He had a previous engagement. But he calls
Speaker 2: for qualm and quiet and an investigation and condemns the
Speaker 2: type of violence that he witnessed in the viral video.
Speaker 2: Whatever it would have done something. Instead we got nothing,
Speaker 2: nothing at all. Three suspects arrested in charge for their
Speaker 2: involvement in that melee the beat down, had their first
Speaker 2: court appearance yesterday, and finally some actually genuine bonds. Montianez Merriweather,
Speaker 2: five hundred thousand dollars, thirty four years old. I guess
Speaker 2: the curfew didn't apply to him, Joe, He's at a
Speaker 2: full grown adult, probably wasn't looking to borrow a red
Speaker 2: bike either, one count each felonious AsSalt, assault and aggravated
Speaker 2: rioting and five hundred grand again his bond to Kira
Speaker 2: Vernon two hundred thousand dollars bond on one count of
Speaker 2: each filonius assault, assault and aggravated rioting. And then Jermaine Matthews,
Speaker 2: who turned himself in one hundred thousand dollars bond dkira
Speaker 2: Is twenty four and Jermaine thirty nine years old, charged
Speaker 2: with aggravated rioting and assault. Now, apparently during the arrangements
Speaker 2: the arrangements, prosecutors talking about Meriwether and Matthews accused them
Speaker 2: of coordinating the brawl. Since they please detect the testified quote. Ultimately,
Speaker 2: we do have on video mister Meriwether walking up to
Speaker 2: co defendant W. Matthews. He whispers something to him, then
Speaker 2: walks behind the victim, describing the movements as an ambush
Speaker 2: their words, or in their words, a setup in a
Speaker 2: certain way. Detectives said, they chase him and they get
Speaker 2: him on the ground where they begin to punch and
Speaker 2: kick him on the ground. There's a there's a disengage.
Speaker 2: Meriweather goes after another gentleman behind another car and then
Speaker 2: walks to the side and goes to the sidewalk, and
Speaker 2: there's the third assault occurring in the middle of the roadway.
Speaker 2: As to Meriwether's involvement in this, we believe he coordinated
Speaker 2: this with mister Matthews. He walked up to him on
Speaker 2: the video, whispered something to him, and then strategically placed
Speaker 2: himself behind the victim. As the assault began. Now his
Speaker 2: defense attorney said, no, no, no, no, this isn't the
Speaker 2: coordinated attack. The man identified as the victim allegedly threw
Speaker 2: the first punch at Matthews after he was allegedly seen
Speaker 2: kicking his vehicle. Accord to the defense or, the Caucasian
Speaker 2: man then says, that's your car and slaps my client
Speaker 2: in the face. That person, the alleged victim in this case,
Speaker 2: through the first punch. Did a melee occur thereafter, yes,
Speaker 2: But to say it was a coordinator attack that was
Speaker 2: the catalyst of what broke out, that is not true
Speaker 2: and the accurate picture of what broke out, well, I
Speaker 2: suppose the evidence will at least shake out in courts
Speaker 2: prosecutor's case. The detective is just relaying what he proceeds
Speaker 2: to be the case, and we'll see what happens as
Speaker 2: it unfolds. But see, this does not address the ultimate
Speaker 2: problem here, which is the absolute outrageous of what I
Speaker 2: will call an understated way over reaction from the people
Speaker 2: in the original melee and then the crowd of people
Speaker 2: who decided to join in the beatdown. You can't wash
Speaker 2: this away. There is I don't care what the initial
Speaker 2: dispute is the fact that an entire crowd of people
Speaker 2: joined in the fun, if you want to jokingly refer
Speaker 2: to it as that is the real problem here and
Speaker 2: the reason the whole case has gone viral. Do you
Speaker 2: think this thing would have made national headlines around the
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Speaker 2: Sex forty here fifty five ker CD talk stations. Now,
Speaker 2: did we just wake up one day in the city
Speaker 2: of Cincinnati to find out that we're short on police officers?
Speaker 2: Of course not. This has been a problem that's been
Speaker 2: percolating and brewing over years and years and years. You know,
Speaker 2: a forward thinking city council would not allow the numbers
Speaker 2: of the sincint Police Department to drop off as dramatically
Speaker 2: as they have, so they wouldn't have to pay multiple
Speaker 2: I guess millions, probably a dollars in overtime hours exhausted
Speaker 2: police officers. Of course, you know, we had all the
Speaker 2: problems because of the defund the police movement, Black Lives Matter,
Speaker 2: anti file all marching in the streets demanding that we
Speaker 2: get rid of evil racist law enforcement. Of course, the
Speaker 2: city of Cincinnati being you know, run exclusively by Democrats,
Speaker 2: embracing that reality, never coming out in defense of the
Speaker 2: police department and low and behold, oh my god, you
Speaker 2: got a tragic thing like happened over the weekend, and
Speaker 2: now they're all calling for strict law enforcement. Combating violence
Speaker 2: is our most urgent challenge, says Mayor after have Purvall,
Speaker 2: who decided to come back from Vancouver where he was
Speaker 2: on vacation, leaving for vacation after already being alerted to
Speaker 2: the fact that there was this brawl, this beatdown unfolding
Speaker 2: in the city of Cincinnati, left on Saturday. He didn't
Speaker 2: tell you that. He didn't even leave a message. So
Speaker 2: with the limited resources we have in the city of Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: three count them, one two, three officers were available to
Speaker 2: deal with the entire district. Apparently that morning, Governor Mike DeWine,
Speaker 2: as well as what are described by Fox nineteen as
Speaker 2: local leaders, announced yesterday that the Ohio State Highway Patrol
Speaker 2: is now going to be providing manpower to help support
Speaker 2: the CINCINNT Police Department. Pressolice. Governor of Wine announced that
Speaker 2: Ohio State Higway Patrol is now going to be providing
Speaker 2: sports to the City of Cincinnati. After the office that
Speaker 2: local authorities have requested the support amid quote recent instances
Speaker 2: of violence. Hey, contextually speaking, what does recent mean in
Speaker 2: that a lot of people concern the violence has been
Speaker 2: going on for quite some time, yet ignored by our
Speaker 2: elected officials. So anyway, recent instances of violence is going
Speaker 2: to lead to additional support from Columbus. Assistance comes in
Speaker 2: the form, they say, of Ohio State Highway Patrol support
Speaker 2: with traffic enforcement, which would I guess is designed to
Speaker 2: free up other officers as well as a bunch of
Speaker 2: different resources from the Ohio State Highway Patrol Aviation Unit
Speaker 2: that apparently is going to in the words of the announcement,
Speaker 2: focus on supporting local violent crime reduction initiatives, criminal suspect
Speaker 2: searches and vehicle pursuit aviation unit. Is that drones anyway?
Speaker 2: Purval quote. I want to express my deep appreciation to
Speaker 2: Governor Wine for his can continued leadership, his leadership anyway,
Speaker 2: and his assistance in our most important responsibility as a government,
Speaker 2: combatting violence, our most urgent challenge, and this coordination support
Speaker 2: from Ohio State from the State of Ohio assist our
Speaker 2: local law enforcement in ensuring the safety of all of
Speaker 2: our residents. I'm extremely proud of our police officers for
Speaker 2: their diligence and exceptional service, and we will continue to
Speaker 2: be unrelenting in our support of their work. Now, we
Speaker 2: could have used a lot of the kind of statements
Speaker 2: like that in advance of this, and over and over
Speaker 2: again speaking to the residents of the city of Cincinnati
Speaker 2: that no, we're not going to defund the police. We're
Speaker 2: going to support them. We're going to do everything we
Speaker 2: can to help improve the patrols in your neighborhood. We're
Speaker 2: going to do everything we have to increase police presence
Speaker 2: in your neighborhood because that's what you, as citizens really want.
Speaker 2: It's a urgent challenge, it's our it's one of the
Speaker 2: most important responsibilities as government. That's what he's saying. Now, anyway,
Speaker 2: let's gore to the phones. Andrew Pappus always appreciate when
Speaker 2: you call the morning show.
Speaker 12: Hey, Brian, I'm always listening.
Speaker 6: My ducks are going nuts.
Speaker 9: Oh my god, I know I'm on the radio.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 5: I'm stunned.
Speaker 12: I'm absolutely stunned because and I don't get stunned often,
Speaker 12: but the complete level you mentioned. Aftab was in town
Speaker 12: found out about this event. Then quite casually actually chose
Speaker 12: to leave town with his family. And I don't get
Speaker 12: me wrong, I understand vacations whatever, But when you're when
Speaker 12: you are the CEO of a corporation and the city
Speaker 12: is in essence of corporation and you're hired to leave
Speaker 12: that corporation in times of crisis, I'm sorry your family.
Speaker 12: You know, family obligations. You say, hey, you guys, go ahead,
Speaker 12: I'll catch up with you.
Speaker 2: In a day or two whatever. Right, Well, listen, he
Speaker 2: agreed to cut. He agreed to cut. After that, he
Speaker 2: agreed to cut the vacation short by four days and
Speaker 2: come back. I guess because I realized that's not the issue.
Speaker 12: The issue is at the beginning. You know, at the beginning, right,
Speaker 12: this is when you need to address the situation, not
Speaker 12: the after No.
Speaker 2: I know, he talked about how important his vacation was.
Speaker 2: That's why he went ahead after after knowing about this
Speaker 2: incident and won a vacation because he didn't want to
Speaker 2: bribe his five year old child of this opportunity. But
Speaker 2: he's still in the.
Speaker 12: I appreciate that on on on the family level, however,
Speaker 12: it's not a big ask to say to your family
Speaker 12: I'll catch.
Speaker 2: Up to you in a day care of it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not arguing with you.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I know, and and and and the other. And
Speaker 12: so that that that that goes directly to the man's judgment.
Speaker 12: And and I questioned his judgment on a professional level
Speaker 12: as the mayor a lot. Now I seem to question
Speaker 12: is his personal judgment because I think that he made
Speaker 12: a really tactical, stupid decision there. But the other thing
Speaker 12: I'd like to say is, you know, you have the
Speaker 12: city since the count Cincinnati City council woman who's doubling
Speaker 12: down on her comments that the people deserve it. And
Speaker 12: I hope when everybody sees that comment on social media
Speaker 12: or an article, just post a picture of the poor
Speaker 12: woman Holly that that that are going run. It's a
Speaker 12: brutal photograph, but you know what you need to see.
Speaker 12: You know, you see her laying on the round, people
Speaker 12: are like, oh, look she's passed out. Oh I hope
Speaker 12: she's better, you know whatever. But then you see her
Speaker 12: the aftermath and the bruising, the black eye, the bruise, lift,
Speaker 12: the bruce chest, and then you're like, wow, you know
Speaker 12: what this is? This is the dirty picture. I didn't
Speaker 12: want to see all that hurts me. It should, it
Speaker 12: should sicken you. And the third thing I'd like to
Speaker 12: say is, I know you mentioned it earlier. I'm stunned
Speaker 12: given what I've seen online from her comments, both about
Speaker 12: this incident allegedly and also her prior comments. Cincinnati Reads
Speaker 12: last night chose to honor Iris Rally at the game.
Speaker 12: The Cincinnati Reds chose to honor this person that is
Speaker 12: seems to be I've heard described. I mean, Signal ninety
Speaker 12: nine on social media is doing a wonderful job documenting
Speaker 12: her history. And I will tell you I'm puzzled at
Speaker 12: the timing of that.
Speaker 2: Yes I am.
Speaker 12: I know that, I know that it might take weeks
Speaker 12: to line up who you're giving an award to, But
Speaker 12: given what happened, and given what you saw immediately, you
Speaker 12: couldn't just pull the plug and say that's not probably
Speaker 12: the right time to be giving this person a you know,
Speaker 12: accolade at a Cincinnati Reds game that was quite crowded.
Speaker 12: My phone absolutely blew up last night when they were
Speaker 12: giving her an award or an acknowledgment accolades before the
Speaker 12: Reds game last night. I'm like, you are rewarding people
Speaker 12: that are tearing this city apart. I mean, do you
Speaker 12: think that you know, for example, I mean, it's a
Speaker 12: kid to maybe a team somewhere right after the incidents
Speaker 12: with Kyle Rittenhouse having him it at center Field, will
Speaker 12: they do the same thing? I mean, possibly not. I mean,
Speaker 12: I'm just I'm stunned at this. I can't believe it.
Speaker 12: And the mayor has I don't know who appoints the
Speaker 12: people to the committee that she's on, but you know,
Speaker 12: the mayor. I've seen so many memes going around the
Speaker 12: mayor fiddling while the city burns in the ground. I mean,
Speaker 12: that's exactly what's going on. Your mayor is absolutely demonstrating
Speaker 12: since a city mayor is demonstrating that he has nothing
Speaker 12: more than an empty suit, a pretty face that is
Speaker 12: simply not up to the job, because quite clearly he
Speaker 12: does not have the experience, whether it's in the business
Speaker 12: world or the public world, to run an entity of
Speaker 12: this side. He can smile and take nice pictures all
Speaker 12: day long, and that's fine if that's what you want,
Speaker 12: but when you elect an empty suit to a position
Speaker 12: just on accolades and platitudes, when the rubber meets the road,
Speaker 12: you're gonna be severely lacking. And right now we are lacking,
Speaker 12: just glaringly. We are lacking any real leadership in this city.
Speaker 12: But I will say I'm very proud of my good
Speaker 12: friend Christopher Smitherman, who is going to now partner or
Speaker 12: co host on Monday, I believe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with the Vake.
Speaker 12: Ramaswami, you know, that's what leaders do. They're gonna sit
Speaker 12: down and they're going to start and they're going to
Speaker 12: talk about this publicly. That's what leadership is. You have
Speaker 12: the Vake on the gubernatorial side that's sitting down and saying, hey,
Speaker 12: we got a problem, let's address it. And you've got
Speaker 12: Christopher Smitherman who says, I love this city and I
Speaker 12: want to help be a part of the solution. Former
Speaker 12: leader of the NAACP. Our friend Christopher Smitherman is going
Speaker 12: to is going to be part of the you know,
Speaker 12: discussion on how where do we go from here? And
Speaker 12: I am so happy to call him my friend. I
Speaker 12: know he's a friend of the program. I know he's
Speaker 12: a personal friend of yours y and I am I
Speaker 12: that's the way forward, not these toxic people like Irish
Speaker 12: Raleigh and the and the Cincinnati councilwoman. And and to
Speaker 12: be fair, Mayora does not provide a does not instill
Speaker 12: me any confidence that he is in any way capable
Speaker 12: of finding a way forward through this, other than you know,
Speaker 12: placing blame where it may not belong or throwing accusations.
Speaker 12: I mean, the mayor is simply it's simply a talking
Speaker 12: you know what he is. Actually, it's just occurred to me.
Speaker 12: Have you ever watched the news program where you see
Speaker 12: a talking head talking about a news a news story,
Speaker 12: and you know they have absolutely no.
Speaker 2: Idea what they're talking about.
Speaker 12: They're just a talking head. Cincinnati, congratulations, you have elected
Speaker 12: a talking head as you're mayor.
Speaker 2: But uh the uh uh Ron Burgundy, hold on a second,
Speaker 2: their partner.
Speaker 12: I'm pretty sure I called somebody Ron Burgundy yesterday and
Speaker 12: they laughed at it.
Speaker 2: You did, and you were right, and you called it
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Speaker 2: I share your thoughts and comments along those lines. Five
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Speaker 11: Fifty five the talk station seven oh five if you're
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Speaker 11: everyone a very happy Friday Eve. Secretary of State Frank
Speaker 11: Leroo is coming up a one hour or followed by
Speaker 11: I heard media aviation expert Jay Ratliff every Thursday at
Speaker 11: eight thirty. In the meantime, I am honored, blessed to
Speaker 11: have in studio Sarah Herringer and apologies right out of
Speaker 11: the gates, Sarah, I have been saying herring jurror since
Speaker 11: your story broke June fourth, when she lost her husband
Speaker 11: to a horrific murder in their apartment over the Rhine.
Speaker 11: No need to do all the details on that, Sarah.
Speaker 11: I know you're still recovering from the aftermath of that.
Speaker 11: But Sarah Herngerry, it is great heaving in city to
Speaker 11: talk about some of the problems that I mean, you
Speaker 11: obviously experienced the worst and most horrific of problems in
Speaker 11: what happened on June fourth. But as we were talking
Speaker 11: before the segment started, the idea of crime in over
Speaker 11: the Rhine, you've had plenty of experience with it. This
Speaker 11: isn't something new.
Speaker 13: It's not something new.
Speaker 14: It's been something that's been building and accumulating for quite
Speaker 14: some time. And at this point we are seeing the
Speaker 14: fruits of the labor of the city leadership really being
Speaker 14: harvested or coming to its fullness right now. This is
Speaker 14: not something where all of a sudden in the summer
Speaker 14: of twenty twenty five, wow we have crime issues.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, you know earlier in the program just
Speaker 2: think before the top of the our news break, and
Speaker 2: I had mentioned to you that I brought it up.
Speaker 2: We didn't just wake up in the city one day
Speaker 2: and say and find out, oh my god, we're one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty or more officers short. This is a
Speaker 2: problem that's been building for a long long.
Speaker 14: Time, a really long time to my understanding, even back
Speaker 14: to two thousand and eight where they're recession so hiring freeze.
Speaker 14: But those are things that you're able to project and
Speaker 14: see coming, and any type of business a private corporation
Speaker 14: would not just stand by and just be like, oh
Speaker 14: oh well, or not have to change their strategy in
Speaker 14: order to recruit to compensate for that deficit.
Speaker 13: This is not something.
Speaker 14: I mean, there's been a really long runway to be
Speaker 14: able to predict and see where there's going to be
Speaker 14: a lack of police force, and there just hasn't been
Speaker 14: any action or necessary action, the right kind of action
Speaker 14: to fix it.
Speaker 2: Well, in any prudent, logical, and reasonable person, when you
Speaker 2: put politics aside, the most important component to a successful
Speaker 2: city is safety.
Speaker 13: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: In order to encourage anybody to live in the city,
Speaker 2: in order toencourage any business to invest in the city,
Speaker 2: you're going to have to have at least a perception
Speaker 2: of a very safe city. So failure of prioritization is
Speaker 2: where I always come down on this. So you're short
Speaker 2: on resources, you know, you got budget cuts, you got
Speaker 2: to tighten the belt. The last place you should be
Speaker 2: talking about tightening the belt and not refilling depleting ranks
Speaker 2: is the police department of all places.
Speaker 14: Absolutely, and as of late, I mean AFTAB has talked
Speaker 14: about how there's money for it. You know, we're not
Speaker 14: currently in a situation where there's not money for public safety.
Speaker 14: The money is being given elsewhere. It's not it's not
Speaker 14: actually being allotted to what it's it should be. And
Speaker 14: I mean safety is a is a basic human need.
Speaker 14: It is like it's we're we're not asking for you know,
Speaker 14: the whole Maslow's hierarchy. We're not asking for self actualization here,
Speaker 14: we're asking for safety.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's easy to observe we are.
Speaker 2: We live in sort of de evolutionary times. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: people fly off the handle, they do obnoxious, insane things.
Speaker 2: And as evidence by the viral nature of what happened
Speaker 2: on Saturday morning, that a horde of people out of
Speaker 2: nowhere would just start congregating and beating the living hell
Speaker 2: out of someone who clearly had lost whatever fight led.
Speaker 6: Right to it.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's so appalling. That's that's why so many people
Speaker 2: click on it.
Speaker 14: I think, yes, yeah, And I mean and even if
Speaker 14: there had been a fight between two grown men, the
Speaker 14: mob response to it, and then the woman who was
Speaker 14: beat just by it and by just standing there and
Speaker 14: checking like that, those are you're just like what has happened.
Speaker 13: Why are we why are people acting like this?
Speaker 4: Why?
Speaker 13: Why is this behavior even something that no one thinks
Speaker 13: twice about?
Speaker 2: Well, clear hesitation, clearly the folks involved in and thought
Speaker 2: nothing about it. And again that maybe is the reflection
Speaker 2: of a broader societal problem. But amid this seemingly broader
Speaker 2: society will breakdown if you want to call it the
Speaker 2: evolution or problem we're facing with just lack of morals, ethics,
Speaker 2: logic and reason. That's at the time when you need
Speaker 2: the police. That's when you need more of it. You
Speaker 2: need a bigger police presence. You need apparently by all reports,
Speaker 2: three o'clock in the morning Saturday, when this is out
Speaker 2: three total officers available.
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's and they are very short staffs within those hours.
Speaker 14: Same thing with the hours that it happened with us
Speaker 14: as well. Uh, and how is that safe for the police?
Speaker 14: How is that safe for them?
Speaker 2: It's a good question, you know, like it thinks about
Speaker 2: the safety of the police. Do you think about the
Speaker 2: safety of the community.
Speaker 13: But no, And they're human beings.
Speaker 14: It's like what, Yeah, if there is something like that
Speaker 14: going on, and it tends to I mean, even we've
Speaker 14: seen what juveniles it being like more of a mob
Speaker 14: type thing. If you are are one officer and backup
Speaker 14: is minutes away or not or air Yeah, not there
Speaker 14: at all.
Speaker 13: What are you going to do? It's unfair for.
Speaker 2: Them, it really is. And you know, I had never
Speaker 2: really put myself in the position of a police officer
Speaker 2: having to deal with a mob of thirty or forty
Speaker 2: people like, you're right, what is the protocol for management
Speaker 2: of that? Because you're just as likely to be subject
Speaker 2: to the beatdown or maybe even bigger violence as the
Speaker 2: person that you're there showing up on the scene and
Speaker 2: reporting to the call for exactly. Oh my, well, how
Speaker 2: long leading up to fourth? How long had you lived
Speaker 2: in over the right.
Speaker 14: We've been in Cincinnati for ten years, and eight of
Speaker 14: those ten we've lived in OTR.
Speaker 2: And you decide you invested in the community.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Your late husband's business was right there by Finily
Speaker 2: Market as I understand it.
Speaker 9: Yep.
Speaker 14: Absolutely, we've had a business downtown for ten years as well,
Speaker 14: invested in it, lived in the community. We didn't want
Speaker 14: to be one of those people who was like, oh,
Speaker 14: we have a business downtown, but.
Speaker 2: Moving off to the suburbsaving when you go home exactly.
Speaker 14: We wanted to invest in the community that we lived
Speaker 14: in because I think that's far more powerful for people
Speaker 14: to do that, that's what community is.
Speaker 2: Well, I get a sense you embraced the idea of
Speaker 2: doing that. I mean you obviously have a love and
Speaker 2: passion for the city. Yeah, absolutely, but actually, you know,
Speaker 2: to choose to invest your dollars there, you thought that
Speaker 2: was obviously a worthy Endeavord did at some point of
Speaker 2: leading up to June fourth that you come to a
Speaker 2: conclusion that, well, maybe you might have made the wrong
Speaker 2: decision in that regard.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 14: There have been a few times where it I mean,
Speaker 14: the city is not safe like that, that is very apparent,
Speaker 14: and there had been times over the years where, uh,
Speaker 14: you know, this is not the first interaction with crime, unfortunately,
Speaker 14: obviously not ones with such great consequences, But there have
Speaker 14: been times where we're like, you know what, if maybe
Speaker 14: we had opened our business out in the suburbs, you know,
Speaker 14: there wouldn't be these headaches.
Speaker 13: There wouldn't be.
Speaker 14: But I the thing that we that I've always loved
Speaker 14: about Cincinnati is Cincinnatians love Cincinnati.
Speaker 13: Yeah, they do.
Speaker 14: And downtown is a great place for local businesses. You
Speaker 14: don't see. It's the city is so unique and the
Speaker 14: fact that you don't see it riddled with chains and
Speaker 14: overrun by corporate and you have these local businesses and
Speaker 14: this local spirit and this local heart of the reason
Speaker 14: why this city has made a turnaround. Yes, they're you know,
Speaker 14: we can contribute model properties and three CDC with you know,
Speaker 14: developers as far as that goes, but they've given it
Speaker 14: back to the people and they've allowed for them to
Speaker 14: come in and have you know, that entrepreneurial spirit and
Speaker 14: everyone downtown they want to support local business. They don't
Speaker 14: want to go to chains. And that's the reason why
Speaker 14: we chose downtown is because it's like starting a business.
Speaker 13: There's a lot of risk to it.
Speaker 14: And you can see it's very evident in the heart
Speaker 14: of everyone downtown that they they want it to thrive.
Speaker 14: And the local business owners are the reason why Cincinnati
Speaker 14: got to where it's at. And unfortunately, the leaders that
Speaker 14: we have elected to protect our investment and protect the
Speaker 14: community are also going to be the ones where it
Speaker 14: ultimately comes down to us, We've got to leave. We
Speaker 14: can't just keep investing in something that you don't protect
Speaker 14: and you don't honor the way that we've chosen to
Speaker 14: what can we do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that goes I've searched for an
Speaker 2: explanation I have. Christopher Smith been a form of vice
Speaker 2: mayor on the program every week, and one of his
Speaker 2: mantras his repetitions over and over again, is his unhappiness with,
Speaker 2: if I can phrase it that way, the city leadership
Speaker 2: for their failure to out loud and regularly support the
Speaker 2: idea of the police working with the police, telling the
Speaker 2: police the population generally the police are not They're not
Speaker 2: bad people. They're in fact, a wonderful organization that really
Speaker 2: is there to help you, and so we need to
Speaker 2: work with them. Let's establish relationships. The silence from the
Speaker 2: administration has been deafening along those lines until, like I'm
Speaker 2: surprised it didn't pop up right after June fourth, But
Speaker 2: in the aftermath of what happened on Saturday, now you're
Speaker 2: seeing even folks like AFT have Purval talk about crime
Speaker 2: being the most important thing we need to address and
Speaker 2: deal with.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: Where have statements like that been prior to Saturday.
Speaker 14: Well, they've you know, they don't want to admit to failure.
Speaker 14: And I understand that that's political suicide and as well.
Speaker 14: But you can't fix a problem unless you admit it's there.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, and I'll say this out loud, We'll bring
Speaker 2: it and we come back. Do you think maybe part
Speaker 2: of the reason for their silence and their fared outloud
Speaker 2: support police and failure to be forward thinking and keeping
Speaker 2: the numbers of officers and ranks at a reasonable level
Speaker 2: might be because of the left wing wing of the
Speaker 2: Democrat Party that demands that we defund and rethink the
Speaker 2: police department. So let's pause, We'll bring Sarah Herringerr back
Speaker 2: and we'll have further cood discussion. She is in studio
Speaker 2: for the full hour and I can't thank her enough
Speaker 2: for stopping in and addressing these issues so important to
Speaker 2: every resident of the city of Cincinnat. At seven sixteen
Speaker 2: right now, we'll be right back on Colway.
Speaker 4: This is fifty five KRC and iHeartRadio station, our Ieheart.
Speaker 2: There is your Channel nine first Warning weather forecast. Sorry,
Speaker 2: Sarah and I were engaged in conversation. I should have
Speaker 2: spoken earlier, but here you go. We got midday storms
Speaker 2: they say are very likely. Humidity will drop throughout the day,
Speaker 2: leaving us a humid free day tomorrow. Today's high eighty three,
Speaker 2: sixty five, overnight rain moving out. Got a mostly sunny
Speaker 2: date tomorrow with the high of eighty nice overnight low
Speaker 2: of sixty one with clear skies, and Saturday is going
Speaker 2: to be partly sunny and also eighty degrees seventy four degrees.
Speaker 2: Right now, it's time for a traffic update, Chuck from
Speaker 2: the UCLP Traffic Center. You see Health Weight Loss Center
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Speaker 2: That's nine three nine twenty two sixty three highway traffic.
Speaker 2: That's a slow go around downtown right now thanks to closures.
Speaker 2: I believe the Vice President is on the road. Westbound
Speaker 2: two seventy five has closed it for seventy one, So
Speaker 2: are all the ramps from Newport to two seventy five
Speaker 2: on southbound fourth seventy one. Chuck Ingram on fifty five
Speaker 2: karras the talk station Yeah seven nineteen seven, twenty fifty
Speaker 2: five KERCD talk station Brian Thomas with Sarah Herringer Olido
Speaker 2: Patrick Herringer, who was tragically murdered on the fourth of June.
Speaker 2: This year in their apartment over the Rhine, and we're
Speaker 2: not going to dwell on that, but it's the predicate
Speaker 2: for her being on the program this morning, but also
Speaker 2: the predicate for her I would say, wonderful activism. You
Speaker 2: have been an outspoken critic of the problems we're talking
Speaker 2: about here in the city of Cincinnati since that happened,
Speaker 2: and it's it's terrible that that had to lead to this,
Speaker 2: but I think you're doing a great job of elevating
Speaker 2: to everyone else's attention some of the big failures we have.
Speaker 2: I saw your post the other day about the judicial system,
Speaker 2: and you know, we're talking about that before the program began,
Speaker 2: and that's one of the failures the judicial system. We
Speaker 2: have these you know, for one of a better term,
Speaker 2: you can call them what you want. I'm going to
Speaker 2: say liberal judges. I think they've been convinced that the
Speaker 2: criminal justice system is somehow unfair and that for whatever reason,
Speaker 2: bonds are a bad thing and we shouldn't have cash bonds,
Speaker 2: and that meeting out justice for people who have actually
Speaker 2: been convicted or have you know, plead guilty or pled
Speaker 2: guilty rather to any given crime aren't given enough time.
Speaker 2: It's almost like a handslap. Don't do it again and
Speaker 2: lo and behold, there they are back in court again,
Speaker 2: are involved with the police again. So that's one I
Speaker 2: think that's the biggest problem that we face by way
Speaker 2: of challenge. If we all got on board and we
Speaker 2: all said, yes, we need more police, we're going to
Speaker 2: do more lateral hires, we're going to refill the ranks,
Speaker 2: we're going to start better patrolling. We'll come up with
Speaker 2: all the solutions for the police department to do whatever's
Speaker 2: within their power to do. If there's nobody on the
Speaker 2: tail end providing the justice that's necessary, the deterrence effect
Speaker 2: that's part of the justice system, then it's a pointless gesture.
Speaker 2: And I know you have talked to officers and uh
Speaker 2: and I told you before. My sister's retired police officer.
Speaker 2: She still has a lot of friends and they stay
Speaker 2: in time. And I've talked to other people and we
Speaker 2: had a judge on yesterday Betsy Sunderman also the same
Speaker 2: conclusion that morale is in the toilet and police don't
Speaker 2: have any incentive to actually do their job and enforce
Speaker 2: the law.
Speaker 14: Absolutely, yeah, you do. You see, uh, you know, not
Speaker 14: in the information that I posted. Is that's just scratching
Speaker 14: the surface. That that is you know, some cases that
Speaker 14: we were able to get a hold of and show,
Speaker 14: but it's just showing a trend. You know, it's a
Speaker 14: single data point, but it's showing a trend of what
Speaker 14: the jujitsial system is is doing and they how they
Speaker 14: are interpreting the law and really taking matters into their
Speaker 14: own hands instead of It's like, if you're going to
Speaker 14: do that, then where is the critical thinking. You're not
Speaker 14: supposed to write like it's supposed to be interpretation of
Speaker 14: the law. But you're just letting these people out over
Speaker 14: and over and over again. And the truth is is
Speaker 14: there are very few people who are doing most of
Speaker 14: the crimes. It's not that you know, and that is
Speaker 14: why you're seeing them over and over and over again.
Speaker 14: And there is no deterrence for them. And that is
Speaker 14: clear in Cincinnati, they criminals are making fools of them.
Speaker 14: They are not afraid of the cops, they are not
Speaker 14: afraid of judges. They are are killing there. There's a
Speaker 14: murder every single night. And also the crime that is happening,
Speaker 14: all of those can easily escalate to murder. So even
Speaker 14: when the chief of police is saying, well, we only
Speaker 14: have five percent of crime is murder.
Speaker 13: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 14: All of the other crimes that are happening can very
Speaker 14: easily turn into that. And there they there is no
Speaker 14: fear happening like this. You know what happened to Patrick.
Speaker 14: We were not out on the streets. We were sleeping
Speaker 14: in our home. Yeah, and he entered our home expecting right, Yes,
Speaker 14: like not worried about it at all.
Speaker 13: Yes, quite honestly.
Speaker 14: And when you have, when you have a certain population
Speaker 14: that none of us can think the way they think.
Speaker 14: There's there, you know, that's the whole thing. We even
Speaker 14: when you're talking about people who want to be lenient
Speaker 14: on criminals.
Speaker 13: We don't have the mind of them.
Speaker 2: That's a good point.
Speaker 3: We we like that.
Speaker 13: That is not we We would never do something right
Speaker 13: like that in the.
Speaker 2: Right mind, would kick a door in in the middle
Speaker 2: of the knowing full well that someone was occupying that dwelling,
Speaker 2: you know, And if that were to happen in my house.
Speaker 2: I'm heavily armed. I'm a proponent of the Second Amendment,
Speaker 2: and I exercise my right. I'm a consumed carry holder.
Speaker 2: I have strategically placed firearms in my home. I'm prepared
Speaker 2: for that situation, so you.
Speaker 13: See it does and it's is.
Speaker 11: You know, it speaks volumes and being woken up at
Speaker 11: four o'clock in the morning from exactly yes.
Speaker 2: Sarah, I'm glad you made that point out lawd it's
Speaker 2: time for a break. We're going to continue this discussion
Speaker 2: because I want you to enlighten my listeners about some
Speaker 2: of the other crime that you personally and your late
Speaker 2: husband experience leading up to June fourth, because I think
Speaker 2: some of my listeners will be quite surprised about what
Speaker 2: I believe you described as feral gangs of children. This
Speaker 2: is really disturbing thing stuff, folks. It's seven twenty five
Speaker 2: right now, We'll be right back with Sarah Herringer. Don't
Speaker 2: go away fifty five KRC dot com. Here's trending now,
Speaker 2: Tippers Shannon and I first one to weather forecast. Got
Speaker 2: a uh midday storms they say are very likely, so
Speaker 2: expect some rain today and expecting humidity to drop throughout
Speaker 2: the day, which is a welcome relief. Eighty three for
Speaker 2: the high, overnight low sixty five. Clear sky's got a sunny,
Speaker 2: beautiful day tomorrow, the high of eighty and no humidity
Speaker 2: sixty one, the overnight low clear and on Saturday, another
Speaker 2: partly sunny day, another high of eighty seventy four degrees.
Speaker 2: Right now, let's get a traffic update from the UCF
Speaker 2: Traffic Center.
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Speaker 2: Here fifty five care CD talk station tried to have
Speaker 2: a happy Thursday slash Friday Eve. It'spite of the subject
Speaker 2: matter we're dealing with here, and it is a tragedy
Speaker 2: that gave rise to my conversation this morning here with
Speaker 2: Sarah Herringer in studio lost her husband to murder in
Speaker 2: their own home four o'clock in the morning, which is
Speaker 2: obviously an illustration of at least one of the many
Speaker 2: problems we have in the City Cincinnati with crime, and
Speaker 2: you know this can be a learned behavior.
Speaker 6: Sarah.
Speaker 2: You were telling me about some of the crime that
Speaker 2: you and your late husband experienced leading up to the
Speaker 2: fourth because you've been in that area for about seven
Speaker 2: years plus or minus. You had your business started there,
Speaker 2: so you had a lot of interactions with you know,
Speaker 2: folks in the community, good and bad. Let my listeners
Speaker 2: know about some of the what you described, and I
Speaker 2: thought it was a great way you phrased it. These
Speaker 2: feral gangs of children that you had encountered regularly.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 14: Absolutely, every every summer we were we're like, oh, yep,
Speaker 14: school's out, there's uh here they come and you see
Speaker 14: acts of children and I mean they're anywhere from eight
Speaker 14: sometimes younger sometimes all the way down to five years old,
Speaker 14: but around eight to thirteen, fourteen, and you'll see them seven, eight,
Speaker 14: nine of them, and there's one teenager you know, that's
Speaker 14: in charge of all of them.
Speaker 13: And there's not a parent in sight anywhere.
Speaker 14: And it's not talking about like, oh it's you know,
Speaker 14: nine o'clock, still in the lights out in Cincinnati.
Speaker 13: Just our summers here are amazing.
Speaker 14: It's eleven twelve, one o'clock in the morning and they're
Speaker 14: running amok and there's zero supervision, parenting, consideration for their
Speaker 14: safety either. And that is a pretty standard practice in
Speaker 14: the neighborhood that I've lived in for the last seven
Speaker 14: plus years.
Speaker 2: Well, and I've talked to psychiatrists, psychologists, law enforcement officers,
Speaker 2: people who work with you know, human services and trying
Speaker 2: to provide a better path in a better way. I mean,
Speaker 2: it is my nineteenth year and radio I've had more
Speaker 2: discussions I even can remember about that, and without fail,
Speaker 2: almost one hundred percent, everyone will point the blame at
Speaker 2: the criminal problem, the crime problem at the hands of
Speaker 2: the loss of the nuclear family, the fact that these
Speaker 2: children don't live in a loving environment, even just if
Speaker 2: it's one parent. And I think that, I mean that
Speaker 2: right there, what you said, that there's somewhere where this
Speaker 2: child ultimately goes and calls home, that there's not a
Speaker 2: person there fretting and worrying over the fact that they're
Speaker 2: eight nine year old child isn't home by midnight even
Speaker 2: oh yeah, absolutely on any given night. I don't care
Speaker 2: if it's a Saturday or Tuesday.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's a lack of secure attachment for them. And
Speaker 14: that's where it starts. And that's why even you know,
Speaker 14: thinking that prison is going to reform people, it's like
Speaker 14: prison does not reform anyone. And you have to start
Speaker 14: back that age back at that point, that starting point
Speaker 14: is really where it begins.
Speaker 2: As with children, Yeah, punishment is a deterrence.
Speaker 14: Absolutely. There has to be consequences, and there really are none.
Speaker 14: And when you have a brain that doesn't already you know,
Speaker 14: it's not formed, fully formed, it doesn't really understand consequences
Speaker 14: to begin with, and you allow their behavior to continually
Speaker 14: have none, what are you teaching them?
Speaker 2: Well, And you can make a parallel to the education
Speaker 2: system that way as well. If you're going to go
Speaker 2: ahead and pass a child along to the next grade
Speaker 2: when they don't have the skill sets necessary to master
Speaker 2: the material in the grade they're in, they're not going
Speaker 2: to learn anything, but they will learn that regardless of
Speaker 2: how little effort they put into the project, they're going
Speaker 2: to get moved forward.
Speaker 13: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you had experienced with I think you referred
Speaker 2: to him as a junior arsonist.
Speaker 7: Yes, we.
Speaker 14: I mean again, unfortunately, the crime that we've encountered that
Speaker 14: personally downtown hasn't been limited to this instance. We had
Speaker 14: boxes in the back of our pickup truck and they
Speaker 14: were set on fire, and initially we were like, maybe
Speaker 14: it's the smoldering heat, and we pulled our cameras and
Speaker 14: there were three neighborhood kids who set them on fire.
Speaker 14: And when the fire marshal, who did an exceptional job
Speaker 14: finding them, catching them right away, it was not their
Speaker 14: first offense. The one, the kid who had actually set
Speaker 14: fire to the boxes, that was his third arson charge.
Speaker 14: And in between the time of him being caught and
Speaker 14: booked for arson of our truck and showing up for
Speaker 14: his first day of court, he had also been tagged
Speaker 14: with a agglevated burglary attempt. And so the and this
Speaker 14: is this is a juvenile and you know, even if
Speaker 14: we want to talk about the juvenile court system, I
Speaker 14: mean that the whole idea behind that right was rehabilitate first,
Speaker 14: punished second. But that started back when kids were shoplifting,
Speaker 14: not when they were doing the type of crime that
Speaker 14: they are committing now, and including crime, yes, ye exactly, murder, theft, assault, rape.
Speaker 14: These are very different crimes that kids are committing these days,
Speaker 14: and again not the type that you're you know, a
Speaker 14: child that has secure attachment and their needs met and
Speaker 14: parents not not the same outcomes rightly, clearly, and uh,
Speaker 14: you know.
Speaker 13: Get the getting the child, getting the kid to even
Speaker 13: show up.
Speaker 14: We did press charges because we're like, listen, you set
Speaker 14: our truck on fire, and this was not the first
Speaker 14: time you did this. This was not a oh, I'm
Speaker 14: gonna see what happens, and yeah, this is this is
Speaker 14: something that you're in intentionally doing. They knew to cover
Speaker 14: their faces. They were like the whole thing was I'm like, oh,
Speaker 14: they're well versed in this, and clearly I thought nobody
Speaker 14: had held them accountable before. And then you start going
Speaker 14: through the court process and you see that they don't
Speaker 14: show up. It ended up being far more of a
Speaker 14: pain for us getting subpoena, for Patrick getting subpoena all
Speaker 14: the time, and he's like, no, I don't want to
Speaker 14: charge the parents' money. I want this kid to stop
Speaker 14: being a menace to society, and there's nothing in the
Speaker 14: system to hold them accountable. So we ended up just
Speaker 14: being like, ah, just you know, leave it, like it's
Speaker 14: I can't keep being subpoena and stop everything that I'm doing.
Speaker 14: It had been well more than a year and we're
Speaker 14: still dealing with this. And the other thing was in
Speaker 14: the summer of twenty three, and this was a really
Speaker 14: big issue. We're in the market district, family market area
Speaker 14: and our business was broken into multiple times, now multiple
Speaker 14: business it's over nine businesses in that market area had
Speaker 14: been broken into. There is a bar that ended up
Speaker 14: having to go out of business because they were broken
Speaker 14: into so many times. At some point you're like, you
Speaker 14: can't You're going to be unensurable. You can't keep firing
Speaker 14: or filing. And we you know, the business owners we
Speaker 14: had congregated, we we were meeting with city council trying
Speaker 14: to get help, trying to get help. I ended up
Speaker 14: having to go to the media then as well in
Speaker 14: order to get any type of response from the city.
Speaker 14: And then they put a beat cop down there during
Speaker 14: the day so people coming in would feel safe. And
Speaker 14: it's like that is not when criminals are doing crime.
Speaker 14: So again it's already then we see optics and not
Speaker 14: doing the work to protect the business owners of that area.
Speaker 14: And the truth is there was no policing done. We
Speaker 14: had on our instance, they sent over a cop. She
Speaker 14: had a tiny little notepad. Ouh, you were broken into
Speaker 14: no fingerprints. We had cameras, they did not ask for
Speaker 14: footage at all. There was nothing as far as looking
Speaker 14: for the actual person. And then there was one one
Speaker 14: guy who was arrested, the one who actually did the
Speaker 14: break in. One night, we had seven people break in
Speaker 14: at once because the one guy broke in and multiple
Speaker 14: people came in. Patrick had to go, my husband had
Speaker 14: to go and find that person and have choice words
Speaker 14: because he kept trying to break in during business hours.
Speaker 14: Even there's no the criminals do not fear police, They
Speaker 14: do not fear repercussions. And so Patrick and that's you know,
Speaker 14: we handled it in a way. He's a pretty intimidating
Speaker 14: looking guy. And you know, the other guy didn't come back,
Speaker 14: but he even went to the police and was like,
Speaker 14: I can show you where he is. And the one
Speaker 14: that they they did end up arresting, who truly was
Speaker 14: mentally ill and really didn't do a lot of harm.
Speaker 13: I actually got a letter last week.
Speaker 14: It was addressed to Patrick saying, hey, this guy didn't
Speaker 14: show up for his court dates, so we've warrant to
Speaker 14: you know, we've worn out for his arrest and if
Speaker 14: you need anything, called the victim's advocate. And it's it's
Speaker 14: like it's just a it's a clown show the whole thing.
Speaker 14: You're like, there isn't going to be justice with the
Speaker 14: current system that's happening. There's no follow through. And yeah,
Speaker 14: I think you know there is even down to a
Speaker 14: point which we talked about earlier, and apathy that is coming.
Speaker 14: That is so clear from the police department at this
Speaker 14: point because they're humans and how many times can you
Speaker 14: just see the same criminal release before you're like, what
Speaker 14: am I doing?
Speaker 2: Well? Pause, We'll bring Sarah hernker back for a couple
Speaker 2: more segments here in the fifty five Caarsee morning show
Speaker 2: in lightning and depressing it is, but it's wonderful information
Speaker 2: to get out there. Maybe they're elected officials out there
Speaker 2: listening who might decide to start working on some solution.
Speaker 2: And speaking of solutions, I'm going to talk to Sarah
Speaker 2: about some of the ones that they have put in
Speaker 2: place and whether she believes any of them are bearing
Speaker 2: any fruit along the positive lines direction seven thirty nine.
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Speaker 2: Seven forty two. Here fifty five KRC the talk station
Speaker 2: Brent Thomas with in studio Sarah Herringer, widow of Patrick
Speaker 2: Herringer murdered in their home June fourth, and over the
Speaker 2: rhyme talking about problems in heroin in the system, and
Speaker 2: I think we've identified a lot of them. But what
Speaker 2: about the so called reduced crime plans or whatever community
Speaker 2: activism is supposed to be going on, funded by a government.
Speaker 2: It's to address the problems that we're talking about today.
Speaker 2: Generally speaking, you had mentioned to me this Act Act
Speaker 2: Initiative initiative. Yeah, there, it's on the city website.
Speaker 14: It has a lot of you know, really passionate, flowy language,
Speaker 14: you know, trauma informed. Sure, you know, yes, absolutely, and
Speaker 14: it's it's well intentioned and it sounds like something that
Speaker 14: would be beautiful for the community and that everyone would want. However,
Speaker 14: the problem that we're having, I mean, at this point,
Speaker 14: the numbers that I found is about five and a
Speaker 14: half million dollars has been dumped into this program of
Speaker 14: taxpayer money, right, Like, that's everything the government pays for
Speaker 14: is our.
Speaker 13: Money, and there is zero line by line on where
Speaker 13: this money is being spent.
Speaker 14: We know it's going to nonprofits, we know it's going
Speaker 14: to consultants, but there's also no metrics for success attached
Speaker 14: to it. How will you know something is working? Where
Speaker 14: is the transparency on accountability? All of this money that's
Speaker 14: being put into you know, uh, giving out sandwiches and
Speaker 14: hip hop classes, how is.
Speaker 13: That deterring gun violence?
Speaker 14: And how can you prove that this money being spent
Speaker 14: is doing exactly what it says that it's going to
Speaker 14: be doing. And there just is zero follow through metrics, accountability, transparency,
Speaker 14: and it extends far beyond just the Act initiative. There's
Speaker 14: really no published data betwind spot Shotter, the Pivot program,
Speaker 14: There's multiple programs that they the police have told me
Speaker 14: this that they just keep renaming but they already know
Speaker 14: doesn't work.
Speaker 13: But they need to put money somewhere.
Speaker 14: And that is a big problem is they just keep
Speaker 14: funding and putting things and you know, paying people salaries.
Speaker 2: Right, it's like a ribbon cutting ceremony. Oh look what
Speaker 2: we brought, you cut the ribbon and then never talk
Speaker 2: about it again.
Speaker 13: No, absolutely no follow through.
Speaker 14: Do we know what we're doing working and this is
Speaker 14: how we're going to measure it and if it's not,
Speaker 14: then we already have a plan B. Because yeah, sometimes
Speaker 14: you need some trial and error in order to get
Speaker 14: things to work. Recognize, but you have to have the
Speaker 14: accountability and transparency, and I think that is the number
Speaker 14: one issue that we are seeing with our local government
Speaker 14: is there is zero of that. There is zero transparency,
Speaker 14: there's zero accountability, and they are not measuring or tracking.
Speaker 14: And so you might even have well intended and good people,
Speaker 14: but they're not competent enough to measure the outcomes of
Speaker 14: something because they don't exist and they think they're doing
Speaker 14: a great job and they're not.
Speaker 13: And the results, as we've seen in Cincinnati speak.
Speaker 2: For itself at the crime levels.
Speaker 13: I think it's pretty clear that we know that whatever
Speaker 13: they're funding is not working.
Speaker 2: So yeah, wait a second, all these metrics that we're
Speaker 2: looking for, how do you determine if it's working or not.
Speaker 2: You can't prove something. Of course, we prevented all types
Speaker 2: of crime, and these statistics would be through the roof
Speaker 2: but four. But they're still on the up switch. Yes,
Speaker 2: we're not getting better than last year. We're getting worse.
Speaker 14: Yes, and significantly worse, especially in the downtown OTR area
Speaker 14: that is really skyrocketed in crime.
Speaker 2: And destroying what they the very thing that they were
Speaker 2: looking for when they redeveloped over the Rhine. Now I'm
Speaker 2: old enough that I worked in over the ruine at
Speaker 2: Finlay Market when I was in late high school in
Speaker 2: early college. That was before any money was in. It
Speaker 2: was just really kind of comparatively a disaster visually anyway,
Speaker 2: But honestly, I really never feared. I wasn't afraid for
Speaker 2: my safety or anything. I worked some goofy hours. You
Speaker 2: didn't get there at five o'clock in the morning, and
Speaker 2: sometimes you were you know, you hit the bar afterwards.
Speaker 2: And yes I was underage. They didn't really care back then,
Speaker 2: and maybe not get home until eleven o'clock. So I
Speaker 2: was there in different hours, but never I never was concerned.
Speaker 2: Parked on the street, walked by myself to my car.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do that now to save my soul.
Speaker 14: No, Yeah, and I can't speak to it then. However, Yeah,
Speaker 14: I can't say it enough, like downtown is not safe.
Speaker 14: And this is because of right the current leadership that we.
Speaker 2: Have, and I imagine it is probably having an impact
Speaker 2: on real estate values. There's wonderful condos that people spent
Speaker 2: six hundred thousand dollars for. You're not going to get
Speaker 2: that back now. Word's gotten out. So the project and
Speaker 2: the motive behind it to get young, money earning tax
Speaker 2: payers to move into this urban, hipster, walkable community environment
Speaker 2: that they talked about all the time. It's going the
Speaker 2: opposite direction. Why because they embrace this sort of liberal
Speaker 2: philosophy when it comes to meeting out punishment in the
Speaker 2: criminal justice system. We'll have a few more minutes with
Speaker 2: Sarah Herringer. Take a quick break.
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Speaker 2: Day three seven fifty one fifty five kr C the
Speaker 2: Talk Station, closing out this hour long discussion with Sarah Herringer,
Speaker 2: the widow of Patrick Herringer, and we've been talking about
Speaker 2: the aftermath of the tragedy that happened to their home
Speaker 2: on June fourth, when someone broke into their home in
Speaker 2: the middle of the night, four o'clock in the morning
Speaker 2: and stabbed her late husband to death. And this has
Speaker 2: given her a platform to bring to everyone's attention, most
Speaker 2: notably those who might not be inclined to vote in
Speaker 2: an election. I will say I'll volunteer that, Sarah. I'm
Speaker 2: not going to put words in your mouth, but at
Speaker 2: least you know you're in a position because of this
Speaker 2: that people are paying attention to what you're saying. Right,
Speaker 2: You're a provider of valuable information and with the spotlight
Speaker 2: on you. People are like, oh my god, I did
Speaker 2: not know that was going on. I did not know
Speaker 2: that we had no accountability with these programs. I didn't
Speaker 2: realize the judicial system was this broke when you got
Speaker 2: judges releasing these repeat offenders over and over again. So
Speaker 2: I know my listening audience, and I certainly applaud your
Speaker 2: efforts in doing this because in spite of the tragedy
Speaker 2: that you have to deal with and continue to cope with,
Speaker 2: at least you have the limelight for a while. Do
Speaker 2: you think there is any possibility as we fast approach
Speaker 2: the November election, we have a complete Democrat council, and
Speaker 2: I don't think that necessarily means that they are against
Speaker 2: police or not. But we know over the past forty
Speaker 2: years what has happened within downtown Cincinnati. We know we're
Speaker 2: down on police numbers. We know they didn't get ahead
Speaker 2: of the police department numbers loss. We know that they
Speaker 2: in some cases maybe of allocated resources that should have
Speaker 2: gone to law enforcement or public safety in other directions.
Speaker 2: Do you think there's still hope for the city. I mean,
Speaker 2: would an administration change or a shakeup on the membership
Speaker 2: of council or maybe the mayor. And I know it's
Speaker 2: an unlikely scenario that the city's going to start, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe turn to Corey Bowman. But do you think a
Speaker 2: seat change on council and leadership might help?
Speaker 14: I would have to say yes that a seat change
Speaker 14: would help. I also want to be critical of those
Speaker 14: who just think if we, you know, changed over the
Speaker 14: entire regime, then these problems would just go away overnight.
Speaker 14: It's still power that is being abused and what's really
Speaker 14: important for people to understand and to learn how to
Speaker 14: navigate when we're intentionally not tadd this. As Americans, you
Speaker 14: get a Civics class in ninth grade when you're too
Speaker 14: young and you don't care, and the rest of your
Speaker 14: time is spent on STEM. You only learn about the
Speaker 14: political system if you choose to major as a political
Speaker 14: science major. But there needs to be a demand of
Speaker 14: transparency and accountability for whomever is in leadership, and the
Speaker 14: leadership now what they they could change? You know, if
Speaker 14: we go back to cancel culture even it's like, why
Speaker 14: don't you give people an opportunity to make changes and
Speaker 14: show us can they or will they? And if they won't,
Speaker 14: then yeah, I think that's it's a pretty good argument
Speaker 14: for getting someone out and giving someone who is saying
Speaker 14: that they're in alignment with your values and want what
Speaker 14: you want a really good chance.
Speaker 13: And it is the truth. You may not get that entirely.
Speaker 14: And so I don't think we should put all of
Speaker 14: our eggs in one basket of We need a complete
Speaker 14: new regime, We need an entirely new leadership. We also
Speaker 14: need to learn how to use our voices to hold
Speaker 14: those accountable who are there.
Speaker 2: Well, it's difficult to hold them accountable. And here I
Speaker 2: am take a cheap shot at af to have Purwall
Speaker 2: when he leaves town after knowing full well there has
Speaker 2: been a terribly violent occurrence in the city and he
Speaker 2: decides to leave in the afternoon and go on vacation. Anyway, Yes,
Speaker 2: I said that out loud. I'm not putting words in
Speaker 2: Sarah Heringer's mouth, but I think it speaks volumes about
Speaker 2: a failed administration. Sarah. I am a listening audience, and
Speaker 2: I pray for you, hope you know, for your swift
Speaker 2: recovery in the aftermath. It's very emotional time for you.
Speaker 2: But again, I really truly applaud your efforts and trying
Speaker 2: to get people engaged and involved. And if you could
Speaker 2: ask something of my listening audience, I mean, what would
Speaker 2: you say, I mean, be more like me and bring
Speaker 2: this to people's attention, talk about it more. I mean,
Speaker 2: any advice or something you would ask of them.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean I wouldn't tell them to be more
Speaker 13: like me.
Speaker 14: I would say, I would say, believe in yourself, empower yourself,
Speaker 14: for sure. But these are really important things and people.
Speaker 14: I do believe that most people are good people. They're
Speaker 14: doing the best that they can. And we all want
Speaker 14: safe you know, safe homes, safe communities, a place for
Speaker 14: us to have a good life, for us to create
Speaker 14: beautiful things, for us to you know, reap the benefits
Speaker 14: of everything that we're working so hard for. And I
Speaker 14: think what I would would tell them is to stay fighting.
Speaker 2: Sarah Herringer, it's been a true pleasure having you in studio.
Speaker 2: I appreciate your time today and your efforts thus far,
Speaker 2: and I hope you continue. You got a good voice,
Speaker 2: you have obviously a lot of respect from a lot
Speaker 2: of people generally speaking for what you're doing in the
Speaker 2: courage you're showing. Of course, amid the tragic circumstances that
Speaker 2: gave rise to all this what I'll call activism. Keep
Speaker 2: up the great work, Sarah. And if you ever need
Speaker 2: a voice, if you ever have something to pass along,
Speaker 2: if you get additional developments you want to spread farther
Speaker 2: and wider, you are more than welcome to just even
Speaker 2: place a phone call here to the fifty five KRC
Speaker 2: More and Shore, or make the trip back in. I
Speaker 2: love having the studio.
Speaker 13: Yep, We'll come anytime.
Speaker 2: God bless you, Sarah. Take care seven fifty seven right
Speaker 2: off top of the our news or and hear from
Speaker 2: Secretary of State Frank LeRose he just got back from
Speaker 2: a meeting with Donald Trump regarding election integrity. That plus
Speaker 2: I heard me the aviation expert Jay Ratliffe, come on
Speaker 2: bottom the hour at eight thirty. Stick around us.
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Speaker 13: That's the only way to stay in for him.
Speaker 2: Fifty five KRC the talk station, Ato six fifty five
Speaker 2: kr SE the talk station. It was an amazing conversation
Speaker 2: with Sarah Man. She has maintains her composure, and I
Speaker 2: was expecting an allergy outpreate to be quite honest with you,
Speaker 2: and almost had one in the close of that segment
Speaker 2: with Sarah, she did want everyone to know. While she
Speaker 2: did not want to talk about the actual murder of
Speaker 2: her husband and wanted to steer clear of the details
Speaker 2: of that he died saving her life. So wanted to
Speaker 2: make sure that everyone knew that because Sarah thought it
Speaker 2: a very important and yes, a very important detail concerning
Speaker 2: the quality and character of the late Patrick Herringer. Welcome
Speaker 2: back to the fifty five KRSE Morning Show. Completely changing
Speaker 2: gears to a very positive meeting. Apparently we have on
Speaker 2: the program the return of Ohio's Secretary of State, Frank LeRose. Frank,
Speaker 2: it is always a real pleasure having you on the program.
Speaker 4: Well, thanks for having me back, Brian, looking forward to
Speaker 4: this conversation and hope things are going well for you.
Speaker 2: Things going great as far as great goes. But understand,
Speaker 2: speaking of great, that you had what might be described
Speaker 2: as a great meeting with the White House regarding voter
Speaker 2: integrity the other day. I saw your post on social
Speaker 2: media about that, declaring it a very productive meeting. What
Speaker 2: was the purpose of the meeting, what did you discuss,
Speaker 2: and what do we have to look forward to? Frank LeRose, Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is a.
Speaker 4: Group that has grown in the last several months. Way
Speaker 4: back in February, just a month into the new administration,
Speaker 4: myself and one or two other secretaries of State got
Speaker 4: together with the President's policy team. At that point, they
Speaker 4: were just in the development process of the Executive Order
Speaker 4: on Election Integrity.
Speaker 9: That the President has done.
Speaker 4: And then we met again in April and it was
Speaker 4: a larger group, and now getting together in July, we
Speaker 4: had I think fifteen twenty other secretaries of State from
Speaker 4: around the country, including, by the way, a bipartisan representation.
Speaker 4: I'm proud to say we were able to get a
Speaker 4: few Democrats to join in the conversation, and that's good.
Speaker 9: That's how elections administration should work.
Speaker 4: And largely what the conversation.
Speaker 9: Was about is list maintenance.
Speaker 4: Now you may start to think snooze, boring list maintenance,
Speaker 4: absolutely not.
Speaker 9: Actually.
Speaker 4: In fact, one of the most important things that elections
Speaker 4: officials do is maintain accurate voter rules. And it's hard.
Speaker 4: We've been leading the charge on this in Ohio for
Speaker 4: a long time and kind of setting the example for
Speaker 4: the rest of the country.
Speaker 9: And how do you maintain accurate voter rules?
Speaker 6: What does this mean?
Speaker 9: Taking dead people off.
Speaker 4: The rules, taking making sure non citizens never get on
Speaker 4: the voter rules, right when people move from one county
Speaker 4: to another, or god forbid, somebody moves out of Ohio.
Speaker 9: Don't know why they would want.
Speaker 4: To do that, making sure they get removed from the
Speaker 4: voter rules. So those are the things that we've done
Speaker 4: in Ohio for a long time. But we've had to
Speaker 4: work around the federal government.
Speaker 9: Not so much with the federal government.
Speaker 4: Even though they are a repository of a lot of
Speaker 4: this data that we need to do voter list maintenance.
Speaker 4: In fact, last year I had to sue the Biden
Speaker 4: administration to try to get some basic citizenship data so
Speaker 4: that we could prevent non citizens from becoming registered to vote.
Speaker 4: I can tell you it's been a complete change of
Speaker 4: attitude with the Trump administration, and what they're doing is
Speaker 4: truly remarkable because they're pulling together all these different parts
Speaker 4: of the federal government, and isn't that what an executive
Speaker 4: is supposed to do and getting them to actually do
Speaker 4: the job you see, the Social Security Administration has good
Speaker 4: data on who has died because they don't want to
Speaker 4: send those Social Security checks anymore.
Speaker 9: So Social Security is really good at that, but they
Speaker 9: wouldn't give us that data.
Speaker 4: Finally, they are the Department of Homeland Security has pretty
Speaker 4: good data on who's a citizen and who's not, but
Speaker 4: they made it enormously hard for us to get a
Speaker 4: hold of that. Until recently, the federal government didn't always
Speaker 4: know what the left in the right hand was doing.
Speaker 4: But the Trump administration's pulling all those entities together to
Speaker 4: make this thing called.
Speaker 9: The Save Database work.
Speaker 4: The Save Database is what secretaries of State are now
Speaker 4: able to use in a much more streamlined way to
Speaker 4: maintain the accuracy of our voter rules. And I couldn't
Speaker 4: be happier with the work that the Trump administration is doing.
Speaker 4: By the way, previous administrations told us that this would
Speaker 4: take years to do, It would cost millions of dollars.
Speaker 4: They may never be able to get the project done
Speaker 4: to do this, and the Trump Administration's done it like
Speaker 4: in the last five months.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need a new laws for immigration on the
Speaker 2: books before we could stop the open border from happening.
Speaker 2: And oh, look, no new law, the borders shut down.
Speaker 2: It is amazing what a change of administration can bring about.
Speaker 9: Leadership.
Speaker 4: Leadership matters, And I'll tell you what, government is excellent
Speaker 4: at making excuses. And there's a lot of good people
Speaker 4: that work in government, don't get me wrong, But deep
Speaker 4: within the bureaucracy, whether it's a city hall, a county government,
Speaker 4: a state government, or the federal government, are a lot
Speaker 4: of people who are just wired to say no because
Speaker 4: it's safer that way. Well, the federal government has not
Speaker 4: always moved this fast, but the president has got his
Speaker 4: people say and yes, yes, we can do this. We
Speaker 4: can find a way to access this information, by the way,
Speaker 4: in a way that is secure and maintains confidentiality for
Speaker 4: people's personal information. But we can use the vast troves
Speaker 4: of data that the federal government has to maintain accurate voterals.
Speaker 6: It is our job.
Speaker 9: And by the way, it's actually called for.
Speaker 4: In legislation that was passed years ago. They just keep
Speaker 4: telling us they couldn't do it. Finally, this administration is
Speaker 4: making it happen.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess I'm kind of curious to know what
Speaker 2: the argument was in the years they were fighting against
Speaker 2: your getting access to this critically important information that they have, Like,
Speaker 2: for example, the Social Security Administration. Now we know that
Speaker 2: they have two hundred year old people still apparently perceived
Speaker 2: as alive. That's being worked out and fixed. But generally speaking,
Speaker 2: let's seem for the sake of discussion, they have some
Speaker 2: really good, valuable information on who's died. What possible reason
Speaker 2: could they articulate for not letting you have it? Because
Speaker 2: federal law does not allow dead people to vote in elections.
Speaker 2: You want those off the rolls just to prevent fraud
Speaker 2: from happening. Isn't that a concept that should be universally embraced,
Speaker 2: regardless of political strife.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And listen, the data that those Security Administration has
Speaker 4: is pretty good.
Speaker 9: Because they don't want to send checks to dead people.
Speaker 4: Anybody that's had a loved one pass and we haven't
Speaker 4: in my family just in the last year, those Social
Speaker 4: Security checks stop pretty pretty a properly, they're usually pretty
Speaker 4: much on top of that. What we had used for
Speaker 4: years is and we still use this, by the way,
Speaker 4: because this is a multi layer approach, is we use
Speaker 4: the Ohio Department of Health and we get that list
Speaker 4: from them every month I actually passed the bill when
Speaker 4: I was in the state Senate that created this process.
Speaker 4: Ten years ago, this didn't exist, but every month the
Speaker 4: Department of Health tells us who has passed. We used
Speaker 4: that list to remove them from the vtererals. The challenge
Speaker 4: comes in about people that pass away in another state
Speaker 4: or even God forbid, out of the country, because the
Speaker 4: depth record is generally created where the person is deceased.
Speaker 4: So if you're at your place in the Carolinas or
Speaker 4: Florida or whatever else and.
Speaker 9: You pass away, we know about it, and obviously the.
Speaker 4: Federal government is able to aggregate that at a fifty
Speaker 4: state level much more effectively.
Speaker 9: You asked the question what was their excuse.
Speaker 4: Their excuse was generally some version of you hay seeds
Speaker 4: out there in flyover country wouldn't know what to do
Speaker 4: with this complicated government data, and you would probably incorrectly
Speaker 4: remove people from the voterals. There was a bit of
Speaker 4: a great deal of arrogance. In fact, a person from
Speaker 4: the Department of Homeland Security last year, when we were
Speaker 4: asking them to be able to query their database using
Speaker 4: common numbers like last four of US Social Security never
Speaker 4: repaired with data of birth, full name, address that kind
Speaker 4: of thing. She was saying, well, we used to allow
Speaker 4: states to do that, but we think that they were
Speaker 4: misusing it.
Speaker 9: So we stopped and I said, well, trust us.
Speaker 4: It's my statutory responsibility to remove people from the voterals,
Speaker 4: for example, non citizens, and keep them off the voter roles.
Speaker 9: So trust me with that data and make it available
Speaker 9: to us.
Speaker 4: Again, we had to sue the Biden administration to get that,
Speaker 4: and so it was a lot of arrogance from the
Speaker 4: people in DC.
Speaker 2: Quite honestly, I can't chalk it off as arrogance. What
Speaker 2: I think it is is actually that they want to
Speaker 2: create an environment where it is possible for people to
Speaker 2: vote who are not lawfully entitled to vote. I mean,
Speaker 2: we've got all these blue states that are losing hemorrhaging
Speaker 2: taxpayers and replacing them with illegal immigrants. It's happened in California,
Speaker 2: it's happened in New York, New Jersey, all the other
Speaker 2: really high tax states that everybody's fled. I think some
Speaker 2: of them even said the quiet part out loud, is
Speaker 2: we need of these people here for the purpose of
Speaker 2: maintaining a certain number of representatives in the House. But
Speaker 2: more fundamentally, if they're allowed to vote, this certainly could
Speaker 2: be large numbers influencing the outcome of the election.
Speaker 4: Well, Brian, maybe I was very carefully answering the exact
Speaker 4: question you asked me, because you asked me. The reasons
Speaker 4: that they gave me one that we couldn't handle it.
Speaker 4: But what you're getting to is their motivation behind the scenes.
Speaker 4: And yeah, you're right, I think that it's a mix
Speaker 4: of just that insidious. Some people, particularly on the left,
Speaker 4: just want the vote voter rules to be voted.
Speaker 9: Others just don't believe.
Speaker 4: It's a problem, and they say, well, you know, nobody
Speaker 4: would actually try to commit voter fraud. It's exceedingly rare.
Speaker 4: And I'll be the first to tell you as a
Speaker 4: percentage of the overall total of votes, it is a
Speaker 4: It is a small number. We see, you know, dozens
Speaker 4: or hundreds. We prosecute them, and we make sure that
Speaker 4: people face justice.
Speaker 9: When they do try to break the law.
Speaker 4: But here's the thing. Elections in Ohio come down to
Speaker 4: small margins all over the country, and yet it's probably
Speaker 4: not going to determine a governor's race or a US
Speaker 4: Senate race. But you know what, it can make a
Speaker 4: big difference in a school board election or a little
Speaker 4: tax levy, a mayor's race. We've had mayors races in
Speaker 4: Ohio within the last couple of years that came.
Speaker 9: Down to a coin flip.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so don't tell me one fraudulent vote is
Speaker 4: something that we can just you know, let go by.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess I saw an article about Georgia. Was
Speaker 2: a Secretary State Brad Raffensburger part of your working group.
Speaker 2: Brad was there, Yeah, because he just announced they're removing
Speaker 2: four hundred and eighty thousand inactive voters in their state's
Speaker 2: voter rolls. And so obviously that a potential looming problem
Speaker 2: right there. And there's there's four hundred and eighty thousand
Speaker 2: people it shouldn't have been on the voter roles in
Speaker 2: the in the first instance.
Speaker 4: And kudos to Brad for doing that. We haven't always
Speaker 4: been on the same sheet on things. But but but
Speaker 4: Brad's an engineer by training, as he comes with a
Speaker 4: background in construction and architecture, and he's a good mind
Speaker 4: when it comes to the analytical set of things.
Speaker 9: We're doing the same in Ohio.
Speaker 6: We do it every year now, so.
Speaker 4: Our numbers don't necessarily get that large. But we've got
Speaker 4: a couple hundred thousand that we're removing in September.
Speaker 9: Now, what you're going to hear is just watch for
Speaker 9: this on.
Speaker 4: Social media and in the newspapers. The liberals are going
Speaker 4: to claim that I'm urging the voter rolls and I'm
Speaker 4: taking all these people off the voter roles. We're not
Speaker 4: taking people off the voter roles. In most cases, we're
Speaker 4: taking bad records out of the voter rules. And so
Speaker 4: we've got a couple hundred thousand that are set to
Speaker 4: be removed in September. I had an innovation a couple
Speaker 4: of years ago that other states are now following.
Speaker 9: We published that list.
Speaker 4: We published that list months ago, and we said, if
Speaker 4: any voter advocacy group, city, any groups out there, think
Speaker 4: that my list is wrong, then crowdsource this, go through it,
Speaker 4: tell me where it's wrong. But we've gotten that down to.
Speaker 9: A pretty good process now.
Speaker 4: And when we removed those couple hundred in September, what
Speaker 4: we're doing is taking away those that have moved out
Speaker 4: of state and failed to remove the registration, those that
Speaker 4: may have died out of state. And because we didn't
Speaker 4: have that social security data previously. We didn't catch them
Speaker 4: in our scrub of deceased voters and in those that
Speaker 4: are just duplicates. And sometimes that happens very rarely because
Speaker 4: of a data entry error at a board of elections,
Speaker 4: But when there's humans involved, there's found to be some
Speaker 4: level of human error. And so we're proud of the
Speaker 4: process we have in Ohio and really hold it up
Speaker 4: as an example for the rest of the country to follow.
Speaker 4: This came up in Congress just two weeks ago where
Speaker 4: there was an election expert testifying in front of the
Speaker 4: House Admin Committee, and he said, look at what Ohio's doing,
Speaker 4: and the other forty nine should.
Speaker 6: Follow that well.
Speaker 2: And to the extent someone was erroneously removed, that doesn't
Speaker 2: prevent them from reregistering to vote, does it.
Speaker 9: It will take you.
Speaker 4: About two minutes register to vote at vote Ohio dot
Speaker 4: gov if you are a eligible voter.
Speaker 9: And by the way, we don't want to remove anybody.
Speaker 4: Inaccurately, so we'll go through a lot of processes to
Speaker 4: get this done right and get this done accurately and
Speaker 4: real quick.
Speaker 2: Because it's been a hot topic or conversation of late,
Speaker 2: people who are registered in more than one states and
Speaker 2: receiving benefits from more than one states in the Medicaid program,
Speaker 2: when you find that someone has moved out of state
Speaker 2: in your efforts to keep the voting roles accurate, does
Speaker 2: that information get shared with Medicaid by any chance?
Speaker 9: So not directly. We have to go through the process
Speaker 9: of doing that.
Speaker 4: I'm actually involved right now in a conversation with the
Speaker 4: US Department of Agriculture, which maintains the SNAP system right
Speaker 4: commonly known as foodstaffs, because have found evidence of people
Speaker 4: receiving food stamps in multiple states yep. And so we've
Speaker 4: got a conversation going right now with Secretary Rollins at
Speaker 4: the Department of Agriculture, and then we have to do
Speaker 4: the investigation to find out are they registered in both states?
Speaker 9: Did they try to vote in those states?
Speaker 4: And if they did, we'll pursue prosecution for them where
Speaker 4: the second voter curt because that's where the crime is.
Speaker 9: If they voted a second time in Ohio.
Speaker 4: Will refer them to our county prosecutors and our state
Speaker 4: AG or to that state's ag where the second voter curve.
Speaker 9: We take this stuff very seriously.
Speaker 2: Welcome news to my listening audience, Secretary of State Frank LeRose.
Speaker 2: God bless you, sir, Thank you for the time you
Speaker 2: spent my listening audience and me this morning, and keep
Speaker 2: up the great work. Thanks Bryance, my pleasure. It's a
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Speaker 2: Hey twenty nine on a Thursday slash Friday eve. It
Speaker 2: is that time of week. I always look forward to
Speaker 2: get an update on things aviation and sometimes more with
Speaker 2: I heard media aviation expert Jay Ratliffe, Jay, my friend,
Speaker 2: welcome back to the morning show. Always a pleasure having
Speaker 2: you on.
Speaker 6: Hard to believe that July is almost past us you know,
Speaker 6: I'm not ready to let go any of this summer.
Speaker 6: And you know, we turned the page and we're talking August.
Speaker 2: I know I've had like four conversations over the past
Speaker 2: twenty four hours on that exact topic, like how in
Speaker 2: the hell is July over?
Speaker 4: This is just lah?
Speaker 6: Oh well, like forth coming up sometime soon, I know,
Speaker 6: coming gone.
Speaker 2: Anyway, it's out of the list. But I know you
Speaker 2: can handle this one. I throw your curb ball every
Speaker 2: once in a while, which you have no problem with.
Speaker 2: I was reading it was reading on the update of
Speaker 2: the collision between the air the airliner and the Army
Speaker 2: helicopter that happened. I guess that was what januine, which
Speaker 2: seems like yesterday. I know that they try to put
Speaker 2: some measure of blame on the air traffic controllers, but
Speaker 2: it's been revealed that apparently the altimeters really aren't up
Speaker 2: stuff in the black Hawk helicopters, and they might have
Speaker 2: not even known what altitude that they were flying. I
Speaker 2: saw an article, I guess on Fox saying the Army
Speaker 2: acknowledge that Blackhawk helicopter altimeters maybe more than one hundred
Speaker 2: feet off, before adding that their pilots aim to maintain
Speaker 2: altitude with one hundred feet of e limit. I guess
Speaker 2: aiming to and accomplishing it two completely different things. But
Speaker 2: altimeter issues, but the other thing that almost was more troubling.
Speaker 2: I know, you've got a lot of strong words for
Speaker 2: the Federal Aviation Administration pro and con, but the FAA
Speaker 2: didn't make any route changes or provide polets with any
Speaker 2: warnings despite eighty five near misses in the past three years.
Speaker 2: These are military flights, and I think I asked you
Speaker 2: when this first came out, Jay, why in the hell
Speaker 2: do they have to fly so close to an airport
Speaker 2: that's got jets coming in and out of it.
Speaker 6: Well, you have a lot of people being shuttled to
Speaker 6: and from the inner workings of Washington. You have a
Speaker 6: lot of military political people that are being being shuffled
Speaker 6: back and forth. Kind of an air taxi is the
Speaker 6: best way to look at it. And then you've got
Speaker 6: NonStop training, You've got a bunch of other things that
Speaker 6: are taking place, and yeah, it just happens to take
Speaker 6: place right next to a large commercial airport. And we've
Speaker 6: had issues and this has been on the radar for
Speaker 6: the FAA for a number of years about how this
Speaker 6: has become in their words, you know, in my estimation,
Speaker 6: they looked at it as more of an annoyance than
Speaker 6: something that was directly related to a safety issue, because again,
Speaker 6: the air traffic control team in the military have worked
Speaker 6: well together to make sure that these you know, near
Speaker 6: accidents didn't become accidents, and it took something like this
Speaker 6: for everybody to kind of wake up and say, wait
Speaker 6: a minute, we've been flirting with this disaster scenario for
Speaker 6: such a long period of time. It was just something
Speaker 6: that was pretty much waiting to happen. But when it
Speaker 6: first took place, the first thing that hit all of
Speaker 6: us was the fact that the aircraft that was descending
Speaker 6: was at an altitude that should have been well above
Speaker 6: where that helicopter was allowed to be. And knowing that
Speaker 6: it was higher than that suggests that, okay, either the
Speaker 6: crew made a mistake and ignored some of the or
Speaker 6: misinterpreted the air traffic control communication, or there could have
Speaker 6: been something mechanical going on with their aircraft. And when
Speaker 6: we hear the altimeters are not completely reliable as we
Speaker 6: would like to and I'm thinking, how in the heck
Speaker 6: is that possible to the military aircraft where you would
Speaker 6: want everything to be. You took for the crew standpoint
Speaker 6: absolutely perfect. It makes you think, why what? And you know,
Speaker 6: that's the first time that I had heard of the
Speaker 6: fact that the equipment on board that type of a
Speaker 6: helicopter is less than one hundred percent reliable. That means
Speaker 6: that some of this stuff is subjective, left up to
Speaker 6: the crew to do your best. And to me, that
Speaker 6: is just that's not aviation, that's the old days of
Speaker 6: crop dusting. We're talking about state of the art technology
Speaker 6: that these men and women should be able to have
Speaker 6: and the fact that they didn't. Now whether or not
Speaker 6: that did or did not contribute to the to the crash,
Speaker 6: we don't know, but it's obvious that most flight crews
Speaker 6: would not have been that far out of position. The
Speaker 6: regional jet was where it was supposed to be, the
Speaker 6: helicopter was not, and sadly that's what led to the disaster.
Speaker 2: Well, honestly, I really don't care about the time commitments
Speaker 2: of the people being shuttled back and forth just to
Speaker 2: have the flight to go in front of a runway.
Speaker 6: It sounds like I feel more important if they shuttle
Speaker 6: me like that, I feel, you know, yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 6: a thousand percent behind his usual brother.
Speaker 2: All right, rather than go over, let's go take an
Speaker 2: earlier break, and then we're going to address the packer
Speaker 2: of passenger of evacuation from an aircraft for the tires
Speaker 2: of change, which can dovetail into the congress or congress
Speaker 2: manalies calling for revised safety evacuation assessment.
Speaker 1: That a whole lot more.
Speaker 2: With Jay rattlife would be right back, don't go.
Speaker 1: Away fifty five KRC the past.
Speaker 2: I heard me theaight ah expert, Jay Ratlett every Thursday
Speaker 2: at this time, moving over dovetailer with another issue. You
Speaker 2: brought up congressmen apparently calling for revised safety evacuation assessment,
Speaker 2: citing previous studies which apparently were flawed. You can explain that.
Speaker 2: But we also have a passenger of vacuation. I saw
Speaker 2: the video from this one. Be careful when you're sliding
Speaker 2: down the slide, but the tires had caught fire. Can
Speaker 2: you marry these two subjects? Are they completely different?
Speaker 9: Jay?
Speaker 6: Well, they dubtail, they do. I think it's not a stretch.
Speaker 6: But we had the American Airlines flight that was in
Speaker 6: the process of taking off. Of course, we have the
Speaker 6: incredible hot summer temperatures. Those tire overheated blue caught on fire.
Speaker 6: The takeoffice is canceled and the smoke from the fire
Speaker 6: on of the tire starts to seep into to the
Speaker 6: cabin area, and the captain calls for an immediate evacuation.
Speaker 6: So they have the evacuation process where the flight attendants
Speaker 6: are screaming, leave your hand, carry bags behind, get off
Speaker 6: the airplane. Now, remember ninety seconds is what we should
Speaker 6: be looking at, getting everybody off that aircraft. Well, everybody's
Speaker 6: going down the chute. And then of course afterwards you
Speaker 6: see the video of people strolling across the tarmac with
Speaker 6: what bags of wheels behind us? Now wait a minute,
Speaker 6: that would suggest that these idiots stopped and collected their
Speaker 6: large overhead compartment luggage and slowed the evacuation process. Now, Brian,
Speaker 6: if it were me the FAA, I would say, I'm
Speaker 6: finding every one of these people one hundred thousand dollars fifty.
Speaker 6: I would find them to the point that it smacked
Speaker 6: them up side the head with one of these things.
Speaker 6: Because it was back in twenty sixteen, American Airlines had
Speaker 6: a aircraft in Chicago on fire. It took four and
Speaker 6: a half minutes or so to get everybody off the airplane.
Speaker 6: No nobody was injured or nobody died. There were some
Speaker 6: minor injuries. The National Transportation Safetyboard, in their usual incredible
Speaker 6: all star effort a year later, came out with their
Speaker 6: final report. One of the things they cited, this is
Speaker 6: in twenty seventeen, was that passengers need to be held
Speaker 6: accountable if they slowed the evacuation process, because that's what
Speaker 6: delayed that flight and everybody getting off not ninety seconds
Speaker 6: but four and a half minutes. So the thought back then,
Speaker 6: the recommendation seven years ago, was let's do something about this.
Speaker 6: We've not twenty nineteen, Aeroflot aircraft gets hit by lightning.
Speaker 6: They land, the aircraft's on fire. The whole back of
Speaker 6: the airplanes on fire. They can only evacuate out the front.
Speaker 6: The video shows people coming down the exit ramps, one
Speaker 6: after the other, after the other after the other, and
Speaker 6: then it stops for like eight seconds, and then you
Speaker 6: see this idiot with three large bags taking his big
Speaker 6: butt off the airplane. Moments later, the airplane blows up.
Speaker 6: Forty one people die. Do you think that that guy
Speaker 6: caused the death of people behind him. Absolutely, So, Brian,
Speaker 6: this is such a huge issue that we're just not addressing.
Speaker 6: And that's one of the reasons when I see that,
Speaker 6: the fact that people have completely ignored the instructions of
Speaker 6: a uniform crew member, which is a felony by the way,
Speaker 6: not being held accountable, it really bothers me. So that's
Speaker 6: what happened in Denver. But the Congressman is not necessarily
Speaker 6: addressing that. He says, Look, we have a ninety second
Speaker 6: evacuation rule in aviation, and he's saying that you know,
Speaker 6: as you and I know, that every aircraft approved for
Speaker 6: commercial use has to demonstrate that that plane can be
Speaker 6: evacuated safely in ninety seconds or less when half of
Speaker 6: the exits are blocked in limited visibility. Now, to make
Speaker 6: sure this is the case, the FAA does a test
Speaker 6: every few years to make sure that we're still in compliance.
Speaker 6: So they took a group of people, ran the test,
Speaker 6: stamped it as approved. This was about five years ago.
Speaker 6: This congressman thing time I hear there were no children
Speaker 6: used in this test. There were no unaccompanied children, there
Speaker 6: were no children traveling with passengers or their families. We
Speaker 6: had no elderly passengers we had no service animals. We
Speaker 6: had people of average size.
Speaker 2: I mean, I was just going they do a study
Speaker 2: thing that included morbidly obese folks.
Speaker 6: They did not. They did not. So the thought is
Speaker 6: that this isn't an accurate assessment, and he's calling for
Speaker 6: a do over.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 6: I appreciate the congressman's efforts here, but Brian, I so
Speaker 6: want these efforts to be directed towards today's problem of
Speaker 6: I don't care if we have a ninety second achievement
Speaker 6: and it's right or not. It's the fact that we
Speaker 6: have these people that are defined year after year after
Speaker 6: year after year the rule of leaving your large bags. Look,
Speaker 6: if it's winter, you need to pop the top, grab
Speaker 6: your coat and run. I totally get it. But to
Speaker 6: drag a bag out and slow down the process is
Speaker 6: to me unforgivable. And what's going to happen is, sadly,
Speaker 6: eventually you and I are going to have the very
Speaker 6: sad conversation where something happens, people die, and that's when
Speaker 6: these same people who are doing nothing now are going
Speaker 6: to pull that hamstring running to the nearest microphone so
Speaker 6: they can proclaim how they care and how they're going
Speaker 6: to make sure this doesn't happen again and all the
Speaker 6: other craft that's going to come out of their mouth,
Speaker 6: now's the time to do something about it. And with
Speaker 6: these liftium batteries that continue to overheat on a flight
Speaker 6: at least once a week, these emergency evacuations are only
Speaker 6: going to increase in frequency. So if there's never been
Speaker 6: a more critical time for this discussion than now, I
Speaker 6: don't know what is. And we've got to do something
Speaker 6: about it.
Speaker 2: Well, you started off on your rant, and a well
Speaker 2: worthy worthy I might interject sucker is saying, you know,
Speaker 2: if it was you, you'd find them one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Something that would make it stick, something will wake people
Speaker 2: the hell up that they shouldn't be slowing things down
Speaker 2: in an emergency situation. Is there currently any law on
Speaker 2: the book? Now, you mentioned you have to obey the
Speaker 2: orders of the flight attendant. I'm sure the flight attendant
Speaker 2: said some of the effects, we're going to emergency evacuate,
Speaker 2: leave your stuff where it is.
Speaker 6: Is that and constantly say it over and over and
Speaker 6: over again. Certainly eighty times they say that as passengers
Speaker 6: are evacuating.
Speaker 2: So you haven't a scene. The other day from this
Speaker 2: tire fire where you said people were getting off the
Speaker 2: slide and had their bags with them right there. You
Speaker 2: have great illustrations, they're on video. You know who the
Speaker 2: passenger list is. You can find the folks, find them.
Speaker 6: They don't. They don't. And that's that's one of the
Speaker 6: issues you. Of course, it might be, well, we may
Speaker 6: not get everybody. Well, I don't care if you see
Speaker 6: forty eight people out of two hundred that are out
Speaker 6: there with a large back This as a backpack that
Speaker 6: they pulled out from the seat before him. Totally understand.
Speaker 6: You can hold out to your chest and go. But
Speaker 6: when you're talking about these great big things, that just
Speaker 6: slow things down. But of course you get into that
Speaker 6: legal murky waters of okay, this is subjective. Is my
Speaker 6: large hand car roller bag bigger or smaller than your
Speaker 6: backpack that you had carried down? In other words, is
Speaker 6: everybody again fine? Only part of them? Begin Whatever it is,
Speaker 6: something's got to be done to send a message.
Speaker 2: They'll have to lawyer up and pay a guy four
Speaker 2: hundred dollars an hour to make that argument on their behalf.
Speaker 2: That's enough pain to go through, just the legal process,
Speaker 2: even if the guy's successful and convincing them that it's
Speaker 2: arbitrary or whatever. At least you force them to some
Speaker 2: pain as a consequence of them putting everyone's life in jeopardy. Jeez, Louise, Jay,
Speaker 2: that's such a heart breaker.
Speaker 6: It is a lot of times we I'll have this
Speaker 6: discussion and somebody emails the me. He says, Jay, couldn't
Speaker 6: they just lock the overhead compartments to make it impossible?
Speaker 6: And certainly that is something that could happen, and they
Speaker 6: could do it. But the problem is that muscle memory
Speaker 6: being what it is, passengers would forget that they're locked. Yeah,
Speaker 6: oh yeah, and precious time trying to unlock the guessing
Speaker 6: it's stuck. They're going to pound on it, and all
Speaker 6: that's going to do is slow the evacuation. Muscle memory
Speaker 6: also comes into play during an emergency evacuation when people
Speaker 6: reach for their seat belts. We found in emergencies they
Speaker 6: don't look to lift the flap. They do as they
Speaker 6: do in a car. In an emergency, they're putting their
Speaker 6: hand down there to push a button that's not there.
Speaker 6: And that's one of the reasons the pre mark of
Speaker 6: the pre flight briefing, the flight attends are reminding everyboy, look,
Speaker 6: when you're getting out your seatbelt, you lift the flap.
Speaker 6: Most people are just laughing at that. No, there's a
Speaker 6: reason for it, because we've had people trapped in their
Speaker 6: seats because they couldn't get their seat belt off because
Speaker 6: they're subconsciously just trying to push a button instead of
Speaker 6: looking down and lifting that flap.
Speaker 2: Okay, I one of the people that last with it. Again,
Speaker 2: I have never, ever, ever not operated my airline seat
Speaker 2: latch incorrectly or tried to push down on a button. Sure,
Speaker 2: Jay Ratliffe, let's find out about why that.
Speaker 6: When the plane's on fire though, brother, Yeah, and there's
Speaker 6: people freaking out and you're in that flight or you know,
Speaker 6: effect light mode. Who knows what we're thinking.
Speaker 2: Don't put me through that. I don't want to find
Speaker 2: out what we got.
Speaker 4: More.
Speaker 2: We'll find out why Delta Airline pilot was arrested. Plus
Speaker 2: we'll get a hub delay update and uh at a
Speaker 2: joke streker like pay increase rejected by United flight attendants.
Speaker 1: Be right back with Jay Ratlift fifty five krc OHC.
Speaker 2: One more time for the weather. Ten and nine says
Speaker 2: today not bad mostly cloudye and uh, midday storms are
Speaker 2: very likely, but we get a drop in humidity throughout
Speaker 2: the day. Eighty three for the high sixty five overnight
Speaker 2: clear skies, sunny and pleasant eighty degrees. Tomorrow overnight low
Speaker 2: sixty one with clear skies and a partly Sunday Saturday,
Speaker 2: and I have eighty again, closing out at seventy seven degrees.
Speaker 2: Time for final traffic.
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Speaker 5: That's nine twenty two sixty three.
Speaker 10: Wreckcom westbound two seventy five before kellogg is over on.
Speaker 5: The left shoulder. No delay approaching the bridge.
Speaker 10: Southbound seventy five parak flights continued through Lachland, same for
Speaker 10: northbound seventy five futtermilk towards Kyle's chuck ingram on.
Speaker 5: Fifty five KRC, the talk station.
Speaker 2: Coming about seven or eight fifty to fifty five kr
Speaker 2: CD talk station Frank Thomas. One more segment here with
Speaker 2: iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Ratliffe and a Delta Airlines pad
Speaker 2: got arrested after the flight landed in San Francisco. How
Speaker 2: did what brought this about? Jay?
Speaker 6: This was a Minneapolis to San Francisco flight. Flight lands
Speaker 6: pulls to the gate's announcement for everybody remained seated, the
Speaker 6: jet bridge is attached, the door opens in ten. I
Speaker 6: believe it was law enforcement officers stormed the aircraft and
Speaker 6: you're thinking, Okay, who are they? After you go the
Speaker 6: cockpit and remove the first officer from the plane. Apparently
Speaker 6: there was an issue with sexual abuse children other types
Speaker 6: of things.
Speaker 2: Oh one, you know that that he was being.
Speaker 6: Questioned about, So what indn't that taking place? They removed
Speaker 6: him and out the aircraft. He went in front of everybody.
Speaker 6: So I don't know why it required that many, but
Speaker 6: I'm sure that they have a good reason for it.
Speaker 6: And yep, he was removed from the flight delta. Obviously,
Speaker 6: no comment yet because of you know, everything's still being
Speaker 6: being worked out, but that was the reason. Initially when
Speaker 6: it happened, we didn't know what the problem was, but
Speaker 6: later on we were given the details and yeah, that's
Speaker 6: that's what was going on in that situation.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Well they'll have fun in prison knowing what
Speaker 2: they do in prison too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: Joe Strecker like pay raise offered United flight A and
Speaker 2: it's twenty six percent pay raise. He gets those every year, Jay,
Speaker 2: apparently not every quarter.
Speaker 6: But yeah, flight attendants or United said no, thanks, wow.
Speaker 6: They had about yeah, they had ninety I think twenty
Speaker 6: six twenty eight thousand flight attends forgive me, the numbers
Speaker 6: are going to be approximate. Here they have ninety two
Speaker 6: percent maybe voting, and seventy some percent of them said no. Uh,
Speaker 6: they said it wasn't industry leading enough. And one of
Speaker 6: the reasons that flight attendants, pilots and others when they
Speaker 6: have these back and forth negotiations, it's a lot like
Speaker 6: an NFL contract or a baseball contract. You know you're
Speaker 6: going to be in it for a number of years,
Speaker 6: and you want to make sure that you are being paid,
Speaker 6: you know, adequate to what everybody else is making. And
Speaker 6: most of these agreements you want to be slightly above
Speaker 6: the average so that you know you're going to be
Speaker 6: stuck with us for three, four, five years, that some
Speaker 6: of this is going to come into play. And the
Speaker 6: flight attends are saying, look, we've helped United become a
Speaker 6: much better airline over the last several years and it's
Speaker 6: their turn to, in essence, make up for our past sacrifices.
Speaker 6: So anytime you're getting into this back and forth with salary,
Speaker 6: it's it's a difficult scenario. I loved Alaska Airlines and
Speaker 6: how they approach this with their flight attendants. They gave
Speaker 6: them at the time an industry leading benefit package and salary,
Speaker 6: and they said, if there's any agreement after this that
Speaker 6: comes out that makes this unfair, that's not the word,
Speaker 6: but you know what I mean, we'll readjust it and
Speaker 6: we will make it appropriate. So that was great. Other airlines,
Speaker 6: that's not necessarily the case. But you know, if you're
Speaker 6: an American flight attendant, you're hoping the United crews get
Speaker 6: a real nice pay raise because then when you go
Speaker 6: to the negotiating table, the hope is you're going to
Speaker 6: get something comparable. So you seventy six percent of them
Speaker 6: said no, thank you to a twenty six percent pay raise.
Speaker 2: Holy cow, that is amazing. All right, Well, as we
Speaker 2: typically do, let's end the segment on hub delays that
Speaker 2: folks are going to be flying today, what's going looking
Speaker 2: like out there for them?
Speaker 6: We've had times when I said, oh, the best day
Speaker 6: of the week to fly. This I think is the
Speaker 6: worst day of the week to fly. We've got weather
Speaker 6: that unfortunately not only is rolling through our area but
Speaker 6: up towards the northeast, and it's been hammering Detroit for
Speaker 6: most of the day, and as the day progresses, some
Speaker 6: of this is going to impact flights towards the northeast.
Speaker 6: But if you're heading to the airport and you're connecting
Speaker 6: through Detroit on Delta, definitely get to the airport early
Speaker 6: and then Boston is going to get it later in
Speaker 6: the day, probably New York. So if you're flying to
Speaker 6: the Northeast, just do not be late. Get to the
Speaker 6: airport tours before departure. That way, if your itinerary is impacted,
Speaker 6: you know they've got a chance to take care of
Speaker 6: you if there's a change to your itinerary.
Speaker 2: Appreciate the heads up on that. Jay Ratliff, always a
Speaker 2: distinct pleasure to have you on the program. I thoroughly
Speaker 2: enjoy our conversations. I'll look forward to next Thursday with
Speaker 2: another aviation segment, and I wish you and your better
Speaker 2: half a great weekend weekend you too, my friend. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Thanks brother. Eight fifty four to fifty five K Seedy
Speaker 2: talks stations and what a distinct pleasure it was to
Speaker 2: have Sarah Herringer in studio, the widow of Patrick Herringer,
Speaker 2: who was murdered in their home in Over the Rhine
Speaker 2: on June fourth, And again reminder, we didn't talk about it.
Speaker 2: We were trying to steer clear of the details of
Speaker 2: the murder itself at her request, and of course I
Speaker 2: understand that, but sort of an exclamation point on what
Speaker 2: a terrific guy we lost in this horrific crime. He
Speaker 2: did die saving her life. So I felt the need
Speaker 2: to point that out since she mentioned it to me
Speaker 2: off air, And she's just just a terrific woman doing
Speaker 2: doing what she can right now to bring the problems
Speaker 2: of crime in the city of Cincinnati to everybody's attention
Speaker 2: while she has the light to the limelight to do it.
Speaker 2: Secretary of State Frank Lrose was some good news on
Speaker 2: election integrity. He spent the day with a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of Secretary's of State from around the country with Donald
Speaker 2: Trump on election integrity and sharing the data. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: would be nice to know if they've got a list
Speaker 2: of you know, dead people to share it with US.
Speaker 2: Apparently a lot of hurdles thrown the way of Secretary
Speaker 2: of States like Frank Lrose and others from the r
Speaker 2: Our administration. They got it all ironed out. Listen to
Speaker 2: what he had to say on that, and of course
Speaker 2: my conversation with Jay rathlup. It's all a fifty five
Speaker 2: KRC dot com on the podcast page. Thank you Joe
Speaker 2: Strecker for winding up the guests. I truly appreciate that
Speaker 2: and all that you do to make the show go,
Speaker 2: because with that you wouldn't enjoy that twenty six percent
Speaker 2: pay ratio. I hope everybody knows that that is the
Speaker 2: absolute farthest thing from the truth. I hope you continue
Speaker 2: tomorrow Tech Friday with Dave Hatter. Great segment one that
Speaker 2: you definitely need to listen to to keep you out
Speaker 2: of trouble. At least he's trying. So we'll do that tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Have a great day, folks, and don't go away. Gone
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