WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.919 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.839 AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand 3 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:11.640 on the iHeartRadio app. We have a full show still coming. 4 00:00:11.720 --> 00:00:15.599 I can't believe only have two hours. I mean, we 5 00:00:15.679 --> 00:00:17.519 have a lot to cram in here. 6 00:00:17.559 --> 00:00:18.440 How are we going to give it? 7 00:00:18.800 --> 00:00:20.519 If you missed the first two hours, you missed a 8 00:00:20.519 --> 00:00:22.519 hell of a lot to a lot of FNN sm 9 00:00:22.600 --> 00:00:25.679 So check out the podcast on the iHeart app if 10 00:00:25.679 --> 00:00:26.160 you missed it. 11 00:00:28.079 --> 00:00:32.280 Mach Mood Khalil, a prominent Palestinian activist who helped lead 12 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:36.880 Columbia University's student protests movement demanding a ceasefire in Gaza, 13 00:00:37.240 --> 00:00:39.960 has been arrested by federal immigration authorities. They said they 14 00:00:39.960 --> 00:00:42.200 were acting on a state department order to revoke his 15 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:44.960 green card. He was at the forefront of the movement 16 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:48.840 there at Columbia last year and among those under investigation 17 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:52.240 by a new university committee that brought disciplinary charges against 18 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:54.880 a bunch of students for their pro Palestinian activism on 19 00:00:54.960 --> 00:00:56.079 campus over the last year. 20 00:00:56.240 --> 00:00:59.679 President Trump won't rule out a recession, which means the 21 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:02.119 death I was responding right now. Down eight hundred and 22 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:05.159 sixty one points. That's where we kick off swamp Watch. 23 00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:09.000 I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar, 24 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:12.239 and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops. 25 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:15.400 Here we got the real problem is that our leaders 26 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:15.959 are done. 27 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:19.480 The other side never quits what what? 28 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:21.120 I'm not going anywhere. 29 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:23.200 So that you train the. 30 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:25.799 Squaw, I can imagine what can be and be unburdened 31 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:26.519 by what has been. 32 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:28.680 You know, Americans have always been gone. 33 00:01:28.640 --> 00:01:31.519 A stupid every day. 34 00:01:31.599 --> 00:01:34.400 I'm like, oh, she actually tell the true Whether people 35 00:01:34.480 --> 00:01:36.439 voted for you were not swamp watch. 36 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:39.680 They're all count of North So yesterday the President was 37 00:01:39.719 --> 00:01:43.359 asked on Fox Business whether or not he thinks there's 38 00:01:43.400 --> 00:01:44.599 a recession in our future. 39 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:46.599 Are you expecting a recession this year? 40 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:52.280 I hate to predict things like that. There is a 41 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:56.040 period of transition because what we're doing is very big. 42 00:01:56.319 --> 00:01:59.439 We're bringing wealth back to America. That's a big thing, 43 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:04.879 and there are always periods of it takes a little time. 44 00:02:05.719 --> 00:02:08.919 It takes a little time. But I don't I think 45 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:10.599 it should be great for us. I mean I think 46 00:02:10.599 --> 00:02:12.919 it should be great. It's going to be great ultimately 47 00:02:12.960 --> 00:02:14.680 for the farmer you know, don't forget I mean and 48 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:15.120 I want. 49 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:16.360 To ask you about Ukraine. 50 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:20.080 So the sort of the back and forth when it 51 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:23.280 comes to the tariffs. By the way, the Commerce Secretary 52 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:26.639 also yesterday, Howard Lutnik, he said there's no need to 53 00:02:26.680 --> 00:02:28.039 brace for a recession. 54 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:31.000 So it's not the only thing that. 55 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:33.479 Makes a ression worse is bracing for one. 56 00:02:33.680 --> 00:02:39.520 Right, So this volatility that we've seen on Wall Street 57 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:45.120 will continue for some time. The CBOE Volatility Index, they 58 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:48.759 call it the fear gauge, jumped about thirteen percent by 59 00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:51.120 mid morning, and as we mentioned, most of the major 60 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:54.360 the indices have been in negative territory. The Dow is 61 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:57.360 down almost two percent right now, S and P five 62 00:02:57.439 --> 00:02:59.919 hundred down two and a half percent. NASDAK is off 63 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:03.719 by four percent, and we're seeing things like Apple specifically, 64 00:03:03.759 --> 00:03:07.039 Apple may see its worst day since twenty twenty two 65 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:09.840 in terms of trading on Wall Street. 66 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:11.960 Where do we stand with the tariffs. 67 00:03:11.960 --> 00:03:14.319 Well, last week he backed off for a month when 68 00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:17.639 it came to the auto industry that does business all 69 00:03:17.639 --> 00:03:22.000 over North America, Canada and Mexico. But today we find 70 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:26.120 that the Ontario premiere Doug Ford, at a press conference 71 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:28.719 said he would move forward with a twenty five percent 72 00:03:28.879 --> 00:03:33.680 surcharge on electricity exports to three states in the US 73 00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:37.759 starting today, warning that he would turn off access if 74 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:41.520 the United States adds new tariffs on Canadian goods, saying 75 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:45.000 if the US escalates, I will not hesitate to shut 76 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:51.000 off electricity completely. This is talking about New York, Minnesota, 77 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:56.159 and Michigan. Says that a twenty five percent surcharge surcharge 78 00:03:56.199 --> 00:04:00.719 would cost families and businesses in those three states particular 79 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:03.479 at about one hundred dollars per month to the bills 80 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:04.199 of families. 81 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:05.199 Wow. 82 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:10.000 Speaking of Canada, they have a new prime minister, Mark 83 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:12.680 Carney is going to take over for Justin Trudeau, and 84 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:14.520 in his speech over the weekend. 85 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:19.519 America is not Canada and Canada never ever will be 86 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:28.600 part of America in any way, shape or form. 87 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:30.199 We didn't ask for this fight. 88 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:34.519 We didn't ask for this fight. The Canadians are always 89 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:35.199 this is not going. 90 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:37.839 To be on our wheel of motivational speeches. 91 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:41.800 Americans, they should make no mistake in trade. As in 92 00:04:41.920 --> 00:04:43.399 hockey Canada. 93 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:49.439 Oh my goodness you he wears her Brooks. That was 94 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:53.759 so Canadian, wasn't that? Like any other country would be like, we. 95 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:56.079 Didn't ask for this fight, but we're gonna win it. 96 00:04:56.319 --> 00:04:59.480 But in Canada it's we didn't ask for this fight, 97 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:01.079 but we will win it. 98 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:04.600 Let me see, do I have herb Brooks? 99 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:05.959 Of course you do. 100 00:05:06.079 --> 00:05:06.519 We all. 101 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:10.920 Are born from great opportunity. 102 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:14.560 Oh my god, I love that. I want makes me 103 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:16.759 want to play hockey. I don't know how to play hockey. 104 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:18.560 I can't even skate. 105 00:05:19.959 --> 00:05:21.959 Man, you'd go out there and flail on the ice. 106 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:23.839 I'll show that icing whose boss? 107 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:25.000 All right? 108 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:29.040 I think icing is when it passes over three lines, 109 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:30.240 untouched the puck. 110 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:35.199 I don't know what did you want to talk about? 111 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:37.120 Oh, you're into Gloria already. 112 00:05:37.399 --> 00:05:42.160 Oh right, let's all put on our baby pink Chanel 113 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:45.480 sweater sets, jump on our phone books so we can 114 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:48.040 see over the table at our press conferences and talk 115 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:51.399 about how Gloria all read intimidates her own clients. 116 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:56.439 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 117 00:05:56.680 --> 00:05:58.240 AM six forty. 118 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:01.680 We have been watching, of course, whatever is going on 119 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:07.199 with the back and forth tariff slapping that's been going on. 120 00:06:07.199 --> 00:06:09.560 One of the things that's happened also in terms of 121 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:12.839 the government. Well, it may be the government is that 122 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:17.240 X has had a series of outages over the last say, 123 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:21.879 twelve to eighteen hours Twitter. That is Elon Musk says 124 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:25.560 that this is a massive cyber attack that's going on. 125 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:31.360 There were about forty thousand outages of reports of outages 126 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:35.879 on Twitter over the previous twenty four hours, and according 127 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:38.040 to Elon Musk, he wrote on X for those that 128 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:41.120 could see it, there was and still is a massive 129 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:44.240 cyber attack against X. We get attacked every day, but 130 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:46.680 this was done with a lot of resources. Either a 131 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:50.839 large coordinated group and or a country is involved, and 132 00:06:50.839 --> 00:06:54.240 that he wrote the word tracing like they're investigating. 133 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:57.759 Breaking news out of a courtroom in Orange County where 134 00:06:57.879 --> 00:07:00.839 jurors are deadlocked. This is the case of the Orange 135 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:05.160 County judge sitting judge who shot and killed his wife 136 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:07.920 back in the fall of twenty twenty three. They went 137 00:07:07.959 --> 00:07:11.680 out for dinner, had a couple pops, came back, shoots 138 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:14.639 and kills her. Sends a text message to his bailiff 139 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:16.560 and court reporter at the time saying I won't be 140 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:20.040 in tomorrow. I shot my wife. Sorry about that, something 141 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:20.800 to that effect. 142 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:21.920 Now. 143 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:24.639 When he went to trial, his attorney argued that he 144 00:07:24.879 --> 00:07:27.959 accidentally fired, that he didn't mean to, but it was 145 00:07:28.079 --> 00:07:30.959 arthritis and his shoulder that led to him fumbling the 146 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:33.199 gun accidentally shooting and killing her. 147 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:35.399 This ardritis in his shoulder. 148 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:42.399 This jury had a really hard time in times were 149 00:07:42.439 --> 00:07:46.879 in tears, at least one jur crying over their deliberations. 150 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:50.240 They deliberated much longer than they hurt evidence in this case, 151 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:53.560 and they could not decide if it was involuntary manslaughter 152 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:57.319 or second degree murder. They were sent back repeatedly into 153 00:07:57.319 --> 00:07:59.759 the jury room. Now they are deadlocked, so that is 154 00:07:59.839 --> 00:08:03.360 a mistrial. They were split eleven to one on second 155 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:07.800 degree murder charges after their eighth day of deliberations in 156 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:11.959 the trial of Jeffrey Ferguson. So now the prosecutors will 157 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:13.800 decide whether to retry the case. 158 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:16.680 Next hour, we're going to do our first motivational Monday. 159 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:18.759 We're taking suggestions about what you'd want to hear. 160 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:23.519 Welcome back to Dynamic Duo. As far as a motivational speech, 161 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:27.360 if you guys can remember the speech that Robin Williams 162 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:29.399 gave in Dead Poet Society. 163 00:08:29.639 --> 00:08:32.799 Hmm on top of the table list. 164 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:36.639 But you guys have a wonderful Day welcome back. 165 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:37.279 Thank you? 166 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:43.200 Is that I sound my barbaric yop over the rooftops? 167 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:45.039 Well, I think that was the stand on the desk. 168 00:08:45.279 --> 00:08:48.039 There's a couple of them in Dead Poet Society. I 169 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:52.600 got another one for Motivational Monday from Darren Stay. A 170 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:55.720 live speech by Daniel day Lewis from Last of the Mohicans. 171 00:08:55.879 --> 00:08:56.759 I never saw that one. 172 00:08:57.240 --> 00:08:59.639 Hey, Gary and Shannon, glad you're both back. 173 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:01.360 Love to hear the both of you. Hey. 174 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:06.200 Motivational speech Teddy Atlas in the corner of his fighter 175 00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:12.919 Timothy Bradley for a WBO championship fight. That corner his 176 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:18.360 talk about we're fireman. Holy hell, I'll run through a wall. 177 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:20.919 I have to listen to that. Yeah, carry on, that's 178 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:21.639 really great. 179 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:24.519 Hi, Gary and Channon, It's so nice to have you 180 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:25.639 back together, both of you. 181 00:09:26.919 --> 00:09:29.080 I think a great motivational speech in. 182 00:09:29.039 --> 00:09:31.399 The movie was to kill a mockingbird. 183 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:35.519 When Atticus Spinch was talking to regret his Dodger Scout 184 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:37.480 on the swing on the porch. 185 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:40.840 I'm about walking in a man's shoes, et cetera. 186 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:42.639 That's also good. 187 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:46.240 You and I both had the opportunity to cover Gloria 188 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:48.720 all Red Press conferences at Gloria Alread's office. 189 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:50.440 It's a rite of passage when you become a roar 190 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:52.559 proorder in LA You got to figure out the parking 191 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:55.639 on Wilshire, You got to make your way into the 192 00:09:56.320 --> 00:09:58.720 high rise office. You got to go through all the 193 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:01.120 different waiting rooms in our office, the whole bit. 194 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:02.240 And then you sit. 195 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:06.120 Around the large oval table in the cramped room with 196 00:10:06.200 --> 00:10:09.759 all the other reporters wanting to hear the lurid details 197 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:11.919 of what have happened to sure to be a female 198 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:17.639 client in a workplace situation, usually or involving a celebrity male. 199 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:23.360 Yeah, and obviously the twenty years ago when I did it, 200 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:25.519 when I covered it, we hadn't gotten to the Me 201 00:10:25.600 --> 00:10:26.559 too movement yet. 202 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:30.279 That was her time to sparkle. That was her bally Wick. 203 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:33.879 She was living it up and which we think about it, 204 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:38.120 the fall of twenty seventeen was really the me Too 205 00:10:38.159 --> 00:10:42.720 movement gaining all of the momentum. And she was at 206 00:10:42.759 --> 00:10:48.200 the time she was eighty I'm sorry, seventy seven, seventy six. 207 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:51.960 She is a firecracker. She I mean, she's eighty three now. 208 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:54.120 We talked to her when we were in Chicago for 209 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:58.360 the convention, and she hasn't missed a beat since I 210 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:01.279 first started covering her twenty years ago. She first burst 211 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:03.360 onto my radar when I was still up in Sacramento 212 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:06.879 when Lacy Peterson went missing, and she remember came in 213 00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:10.000 and represented Amberfry the Mistress. She was the one behind 214 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:13.799 the Amber Fry makeover. Remember her coming down the escalator 215 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:16.519 with like her arm around her and everyone's like, whoa, 216 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:17.559 she got a makeover? 217 00:11:17.799 --> 00:11:18.639 Yes she did. 218 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:22.919 And that's the way Gloria Already has always seen with 219 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:26.399 her arm around a female victim, the victims usually in tears. 220 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:30.320 She usually has like a new suit from from Cole's 221 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:33.240 or wherever they outfit people to make them presentable for 222 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:37.240 the cameras. It's this whole thing. It's a Gloria Already machine. 223 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:40.519 It works well. And now the Wall Street Journal has 224 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:43.200 put out a hip piece saying, well, she's not as 225 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:48.000 sweet as she Well, of course she's not. You've had 226 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:51.720 several strong women in your life in your family, sure, 227 00:11:51.799 --> 00:11:52.639 very strong women. 228 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:52.919 Right. 229 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:58.559 Part of the reason that they are strong and inspirational 230 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:03.080 and successful when it comes to business raising families instilling 231 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:06.759 values is because they will tell you at one point 232 00:12:07.360 --> 00:12:09.879 snap the hell out of it, what the hell's wrong 233 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:12.519 with you? And the Wall Street Journal has done a 234 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:16.799 ten page article on this aspect of Gloria Allred's personality, 235 00:12:17.320 --> 00:12:18.759 and I'd like to defend her. 236 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:19.519 Well. 237 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:22.200 One example, the one that they lead with, was a 238 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:25.799 woman who was twenty years old. Her name was s 239 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:33.120 f Rosina Angelova. When she was twenty, she accused Armie 240 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:37.320 Hammer the actor, of raping her, beating her and said 241 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:39.720 that she thought that he was going to kill me. 242 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:42.679 Not at that press conference, Gloria already sits there and 243 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:43.759 they talk about the case. 244 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:45.960 She said. 245 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:51.519 At one point did f Rosina that she called Gloria 246 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:53.320 Alread because she was having a hard time with all 247 00:12:53.360 --> 00:12:55.559 of this, and she said she was having a panic attack, 248 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:59.559 and that Gloria Allread said, get a hold of yourself. 249 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:02.480 How are you get a hold of yourself, and that 250 00:13:02.840 --> 00:13:06.519 I'm giving you tough love and you're not paying me 251 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:09.399 you have twelve hundred dollars an hour or whatever she makes. 252 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:16.200 And that took Efrosina by surprise because she thought that 253 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:17.720 she was going to be a much more. 254 00:13:17.919 --> 00:13:21.440 A softer, gentler attorney who's been in the business for 255 00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:24.039 more than fifty years and has made a name for herself. 256 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:28.360 You think she's gotten that far with hugs and smiling. No, no, 257 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:32.360 she orchestrates all of that. She is a machine. And 258 00:13:32.559 --> 00:13:35.000 you know what, sometimes you need to be told get 259 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:35.960 a hold of yourself. 260 00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:41.919 Yes, Now, is this just an attitude or is there 261 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:43.960 more to it, because there's a lot of paperwork that 262 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:48.200 goes into hiring Gloria already, and the two people that 263 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:50.519 she's working with, Morocco and Goldberg. 264 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:52.639 Well, and the thing is you see, you know it 265 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:56.360 is Mark geragis right, you see him on CNN or whatever. 266 00:13:56.480 --> 00:13:57.840 And he's an affable guy. 267 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:01.120 He has a bunch of people that work under him 268 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:03.759 that do all the dirty details. They're the ones who 269 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:05.480 call the clients and say, hey, you haven't paid in 270 00:14:05.519 --> 00:14:07.519 three months. We're gonna come take control of your house 271 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:10.000 if you don't pay up. That's not nice either, but 272 00:14:10.039 --> 00:14:12.279 it's the it's the cost of doing business. When you're 273 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:14.080 in the law game. 274 00:14:14.559 --> 00:14:17.600 And when you go to the highest profile lawyer you 275 00:14:17.639 --> 00:14:19.600 can find you're going to have to run through. 276 00:14:19.840 --> 00:14:22.840 You come to us, you know, we'll defend you with 277 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:24.240 hugs and sparkles. 278 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:27.320 We'll talk about what these women are having to do 279 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:31.759 in terms of signing non disclosure agreements, keeping things under wraps. 280 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:34.759 When it talks specifically about how they deal with Gloria 281 00:14:34.759 --> 00:14:35.600 al rom When did. 282 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:40.639 The Wall Street Journal become so in need of a space, 283 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:41.559 a safe space. 284 00:14:42.679 --> 00:14:44.080 Gary and Shannon will continue. 285 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:48.799 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 286 00:14:49.039 --> 00:14:50.120 AM six forty. 287 00:14:51.639 --> 00:14:55.240 Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. I almost said law 288 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:58.759 because law and order seems to be the breaking news today. 289 00:14:59.399 --> 00:15:02.639 We've got the new DA at La County District Attorney's Office, 290 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:05.440 Nathan Hawkman saying, yeah, that old George Gascon wanting to 291 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:06.639 let the Menanda's brothers out. 292 00:15:06.679 --> 00:15:07.440 We're not into that. 293 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:12.200 Basically re litigated why they were convicted all those years ago. Today, 294 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:18.480 so they have withdrawn their recommendation that Gascon put in 295 00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:21.600 place aimed at reducing the prison term of the Menendez brothers. 296 00:15:21.639 --> 00:15:23.399 One of the things Hawkman said is they have been 297 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:27.159 owned up to it. They want to accept complete responsibility 298 00:15:27.159 --> 00:15:29.879 for what happened. We can have a talk at that moment, 299 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:31.519 but that's not where we're at. 300 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:35.720 A disaster at sea today, at least thirty two casualties 301 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:39.080 reported after an oil tanker containing a shipment of jet 302 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:42.240 fuel collided with a cargo vessel off the coast of 303 00:15:42.279 --> 00:15:45.759 Britain up in the North Sea. Chief executive of one 304 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:49.919 of the ports there said that thirteen casualties. Casualties were 305 00:15:49.960 --> 00:15:53.679 initially brought in on a windcat vessel, followed by another 306 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:56.679 ten on a harbor pilot boat, nine others on another 307 00:15:56.759 --> 00:16:00.679 pilot's vessel as they're trying to evacuate the the people 308 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:01.399 off of that ship. 309 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:05.080 Talking about Gloria all read long time lifelong crusade against 310 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:09.519 sexual misconduct representing women accused by Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Cosby, 311 00:16:09.559 --> 00:16:12.000 Harvey Weinstein, r Kelly Shancombs. 312 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:13.600 And that's just recently. 313 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:15.840 She's eighty three, but she's been at this for a 314 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:19.039 very long time. The Wall Street Journal did a breakdown 315 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:21.200 involving some of her clients who say that they were 316 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:26.759 shocked at her image versus what her private approach is. 317 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:30.519 They said that at the time when they contacted her firm, 318 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:33.799 they felt vulnerable and alone. They wanted that woman that 319 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:36.360 they see on TV in the pink suits holding them 320 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:39.879 and hugging them and being a yes person in their lives. 321 00:16:39.960 --> 00:16:42.440 That goes without saying, that's just me reading between the 322 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:48.120 lines here, but they say that that they call into 323 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:52.159 question if this firm and Gloria all read were operating 324 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:53.320 in their best interest. 325 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:56.440 Yeah, so the image and you referenced this. So when 326 00:16:56.480 --> 00:16:58.919 she's got her arm around, whether it's Amber Fry or 327 00:16:58.919 --> 00:17:01.480 any of the other people that she's represented over the 328 00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:04.200 course of the years, she's got this image of being 329 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:06.640 the consoler in chief, She's the one who is there 330 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:09.559 to help these people through these difficult times, but that 331 00:17:09.680 --> 00:17:13.279 in private, she scolds them, she intimidates them, She threatens 332 00:17:13.359 --> 00:17:16.759 to drop them as clients if they disobey anything that 333 00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:20.720 she says. Some of these women who talked to The 334 00:17:20.759 --> 00:17:23.880 Wall Street Journal said that the lawyers repeatedly conveyed the 335 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:27.039 idea that the women were lucky to even be talking 336 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:30.160 to Gloria Alred's law firm, and that even though she 337 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:34.119 says she publicly wants women to speak out about these injustices, 338 00:17:34.480 --> 00:17:38.680 that some women were told specifically to delete text and 339 00:17:38.839 --> 00:17:42.480 video evidence, and that several women said that her firm 340 00:17:42.519 --> 00:17:46.119 pressured them to sign non disclosure agreements that in their mind, 341 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:51.319 goes to protect the predators because these women can't talk 342 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:54.640 to other women who may have also been victims of 343 00:17:54.680 --> 00:17:55.759 that same offender. 344 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:58.960 That is not a Gloria Allred thing. That is a 345 00:17:59.119 --> 00:17:59.759 law thing. 346 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:05.400 That is what happens at every lawyer's office who chooses 347 00:18:05.640 --> 00:18:09.279 to represent you. And there's a reason for that, so 348 00:18:09.319 --> 00:18:12.559 it can't be used against you in the pending litigation. 349 00:18:13.519 --> 00:18:16.359 There's a lot of works that goes behind those cute 350 00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:19.519 photo ops. It's not just pink suits and photo ops. 351 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:22.480 There's a lot of dirty people at play here, and 352 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:26.680 that's why you hire people like Gloria alright, who's been 353 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:30.599 about around the block seventy five thousand times. More than 354 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:33.559 a dozen women yelled and cried to The Wall Street 355 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:39.039 Journal about saying their requests were dismissed. They would call 356 00:18:39.119 --> 00:18:40.960 no one would call them back. They were limited, like 357 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:44.599 you said, from speaking about their experiences. Some question whether 358 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:47.640 they're payouts were as high as they could be. All 359 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:51.359 things that happened when you are the victim in a 360 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:55.799 case or you're seeking some sort of legal remedy in 361 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:57.839 the terms in terms of a check. 362 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:00.880 But the. 363 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:08.960 Specifics about what this law firm run by Gloria already 364 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:12.960 has have been described as more onerous than what the 365 00:19:13.039 --> 00:19:17.279 law would require or what they might do to protect themselves. 366 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:18.880 There was one. 367 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:22.720 For example, the firm negotiated a settlement with an NDA 368 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:26.920 for a musician and a composer, Nomi Abdi, in July 369 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:31.559 of twenty eighteen with Danny Elfman, longtime Oingo Boingo lead singer. 370 00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:35.640 Was also all kinds of different movie soundtracks and scores. 371 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:39.839 The allegation was sexual misconduct. Danny Elfman denied the sexual 372 00:19:39.880 --> 00:19:41.039 misconduct allegations. 373 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:42.440 Neither one of them. 374 00:19:42.640 --> 00:19:45.799 Neither the accuser or the accused were allowed to have 375 00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:49.519 copies of a settlement agreement to make sure that it 376 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:50.200 didn't get out. 377 00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:51.880 It wasn't disclosed to anybody. 378 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:56.400 Her lawyer also took her only copy of the police 379 00:19:56.440 --> 00:19:59.240 report that she had filed about Danny Elfman, and was 380 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:02.759 later told to text messages from Danny Elfman when she 381 00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:05.960 did get a former a different law firm to sue 382 00:20:06.119 --> 00:20:08.400 Elfman over the payments that she said he hadn't made 383 00:20:08.400 --> 00:20:11.200 as part of the settlement. The police report wasn't even 384 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:15.839 in her file that Gloria Allred's firm still had. So 385 00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:20.519 I don't know how many hundreds of cases, dozens of 386 00:20:20.759 --> 00:20:24.319 hundreds of cases the law firm handled, but it seems 387 00:20:24.319 --> 00:20:26.640 like there's there's there could be. 388 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:30.960 Uh, find me a clean law firm. Find me one 389 00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:32.160 clean law firms. 390 00:20:32.440 --> 00:20:34.079 That's probably the best way to sum it up. 391 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:36.680 Yeah, I mean overall, yes, is there some shady business, 392 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:38.720 of course? Or is it's a cost of doing business 393 00:20:38.759 --> 00:20:40.559 with the law. Everyone knows that. It's why you have 394 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:42.599 to hire the lawyers. No one wants to hire a lawyer. 395 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:47.240 But you can't navigate the mess that is the legal system. 396 00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:50.279 And that's what sucks about it. And of course all 397 00:20:50.279 --> 00:20:53.359 of them are going to be dirty. And I guess 398 00:20:53.359 --> 00:20:55.519 the only thing I would say is, if you want 399 00:20:55.559 --> 00:20:57.480 to sign on with an attorney, see what they're going 400 00:20:57.519 --> 00:20:59.920 to have you sign and get it looked at by 401 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:02.960