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world Got Official. So my guest today has spent ten
years in the adult industry as a webcam model, femdown performer,
OnlyFans creator, and cam's studio owner. She's built a career
from the ground up in the digital age and now
runs her own agency helping other models do the same.
But if her name sounds familiar right now, it's probably
not because of any of that. Lydia Love is the
first of Byron Nomes camgirls to speak out publicly after
it emerged that the husband of the former Homeland Security
set secretary, Christy Noam had allegedly been a regular client
of hers for femed on sessions for over a two
year period. But she didn't go looking for this story.
She didn't even know who he was until the photos
surfaced and she recognized his face in the news. And
trust me, she has a lot to say about it.
We'll get to all of that, but first we're going
to start from the beginning. With Lydia Love. Welcome to
the show.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me, of course.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here, of course, and
thank you for your patience.
Speaker 2: Oh worth the wait, Okay, worth the wait. They astead
of that county.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah she got here like I don't know,
good hour ago and the furniture got delivered and you know, anyways.
Speaker 2: Say took care of me. I got coffee, yeah, good, Yes.
Speaker 1: Got coffee, talked about getting an OFTV channel, all kinds
of stuff we had time. Yeah, all right, So let's
start at the beginning, like we always do. How did
you first get into the adult industry?
Speaker 3: So in twenty sixteen, I turned eighteen years old, and
essentially the week I turned eighteen, I hopped on a
cam site. I was familiar with it through like Twitter.
Someone actually had reached out to me before I was eighteen,
and I didn't tell them content or anything. They reached
out and asked me if I was a webcam model,
and I was like, what is that? And they asked
if I had an Amazon wish list, And so the
seed was kind of planted. And I didn't look down
on the industry or anything. I didn't look down on dancers.
So as soon as I turned eighteen, I jumped.
Speaker 1: In, Wow, and did you have like ambitions to do
something else before then?
Speaker 3: Well, I always kind of knew that I was going
to have an unconventional job. I didn't know what it was.
I was like, I want to be business own. I
don't know what it was. At the time I was
working at when I first started, was working at Talco Belt.
I was also a CNA, and then I became a
strip club waitress. So I did like a bunch of
different jobs. I think that I was kind of going
the direction of maybe being a.
Speaker 1: Therapist, which you kind of are model.
Speaker 3: Oh exactly, And I wanted to be like a sex
related therapists, like kind of helping people through their like
sexual traumas or things like that.
Speaker 2: And so in a way, yeah, yeah, I do that.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of emotional labor in being a cam model.
There is so much, especially camming, because you guys have
one on one direct interaction with fans. And like, I mean,
how long do you average like cam for because like
the hours that I hear.
Speaker 3: Oftener, Yeah, so I mean I've done like twelve hour session.
I think my longest session ever was eighteen hours, but
typically I try to hit three hours like a day
if it's a streaming day.
Speaker 2: But it really just varies for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm kind of in a place where I don't
have to do the crazy hours. If I do three
hours a day, you know I'm ranking on the site.
I'm doing great.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah when you started, were you doing much
longer sessions?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I was doing much longer sessions and I was not
making good money at all. Like I would probably do
like five hours and make twenty bucks and be like, yeah,
I got grocery money.
Speaker 2: Let's go at all.
Speaker 1: So question for you, because you know the this is
a contentious topic that I hear so often. You know,
a lot of people believe that eighteen is too young
to get into the industry. Being older now having been
in the industry for a while, how do you feel
about that? Do you think you should have waited or
do you think it was the right time for you?
Speaker 2: For me personally, it was the right time.
Speaker 3: I think that the industry saved me from like being
in more unsafe situations like at the time I was,
I was on my own. I went through a phase
where I was essentially homeless, like living in motels, and
if I didn't have the option to get on a
campsite or go work at the strip club, maybe I
would have been in even more unsafe situations trying to
get money in other ways. So for my personal situation,
it worked out for me. You know, ten years later,
I have a great life.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: But I think it's really subjective, Like it's hard for
me to say a hard no.
Speaker 2: You shouldn't be eighteen and do this. Now.
Speaker 3: If I talk to an eighteen year old tomorrow and
they said I think I want to join the industry,
I'd be like, have you tried other things? Like have
you done anything else yet? Like I have a sister
who's twenty, and because of me, she doesn't want to
be in the industry because I don't know, she just
has her own opinions. But if she came to me,
I would be so terrified because there's just so many
things that can go wrong. You know, there's a lot
that can go right, but there's a lot of things
that can go wrong for someone that young. Your brain's
not developed. I yeah, just navigated it correctly, I think, yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I will also say that, you know, when
people ask me about getting into the adult industry. I
always suggest and I've always done this, like before I
even knew. I mean, obviously, like now being partnered with Stripchat,
I know a lot more about camming than I used to.
But I've always suggested camming is a good start because
it's a You're in a safe place, you're separated from anyone,
You're in your own bedroom, you can turn it off
at any time, and you know you're in complete control
over anything and everything that happens. There's nobody who's telling
you like how to unless you get caught up with
an agency or and one of those weird camras are.
Speaker 2: Weird caam agencies I didn't know existed.
Speaker 3: But no, when people come to me, I always recommend
cam I mean, the thing is a lot of people
nowadays they see girls and only fans that seem to
have hit overnight success and caming is a grind and
it can really really pay off, but it takes work.
And I would say when people enter the industry, I'm like,
why would you not cam Because they bring you the traffic,
they bring you the audience.
Speaker 2: You just have to build it.
Speaker 3: It's not the same as only fans where you have
to have ten social media accounts and you have to
put on TikTok and helpe you go viral. It's like
they're bringing you traffic. But also sometimes people hear the
percentage they take and get scared, But they're bringing you traffic,
like you don't. You get to stream and you don't
really have to do all the other things that people
do to grow and only fans.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's definitely a trade off. And I think
you really hit the nail on the head. And this
is something that you know, we talk about a lot,
especially like I said now that I'm partnered with stripchat,
because it is because ever since only Fans blew up
and became such a big thing, and you know, it's
changed the adult industry or industry like one percent. And
I'm like so grateful to only fans because it's really
enabled me to, you know, try different things. And actually,
if it hadn't been for only fans, I wouldn't have
been able to take certain chances and start new ventures
that actually ended up leading to me becoming introduced to
strip chat and forming a partnership with them. But I
wouldn't have been able to get there if I hadn't
had the income from only fans that allowed me to
like step away from directing because that's such a time
consuming thing. And then there's you know, that's all you
can do. But you know these stories of these girls
making millions and millions of dollars, and you can make
a crazy amount of money on OnlyFans if you have
that social media following, but you have to have that following,
and so many people don't have that, and it's hard
to get there, especially with how unfriendly social media sites
are too us. I mean, I know that you've had
experiences with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah to tiktoks down this week, baby, So yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean you just keep building like new ones.
Speaker 3: And yeah, every time I get to like a hundred,
I was gonna just get taken out. Like I get
a hundred thousand followers on TikTok, it's gone. It's crazy,
which is I'm this is why I love camming, because
it's like I can stream and I make my money
and social media secondary. You know, I'm sad about losing
my tiktoks, but I can go on cam and make
incredible money for the month.
Speaker 2: Still.
Speaker 1: So you said at the beginning when you first started
camming that you really weren't making a lot of money.
What got you past that hump? Like how did you
get to a place where it was like a viable
career and you were like, Okay, this can like fund
my lifestyle.
Speaker 3: I started camming twenty sixteen, and then the end of
twenty seventeen twenty eighteen, I was really clip heavy. I
joined a clip site and I went all in and
then I took a break from camming during that time.
And when I went back to camming, I had built
like a little following online and I was in a
good place to where I had an apartment. I wasn't
going from you know, basement to motel six to wherever
I was in. I was just in a different place
in life where I could really commit the time to it.
Speaker 2: And I think that was the.
Speaker 3: Major change is that I treated it as more of
a job, like I want to build something in this
rather than I'm going to log on on a Wednesday
at around random time, on a Friday at random time.
I like, I really made a set schedule. And so
then I remember my first day back from camming after
not streaming for like six months, I had my first
thousand dollars day and what I was like twenty years
old at the time.
Speaker 2: It was incredible.
Speaker 1: So from what I understand, Like, I mean, honestly, this
applies to all you know, adult content like platforms. But
usually people like find their niche and like the one
thing that like really works for them. Yeah, how did
you find that? Like when you started, did you just
have no idea like what you were into what to do?
And then like how did you get to a point
where You're like, oh, this is my thing?
Speaker 2: No idea.
Speaker 3: I remember my first interview I ever did. I think
I was like nineteen years old, and they actually asked
me like, oh, what are you into like my personal kings,
you know, outside of work. I was like, I have
no idea. I'm nineteen, I don't really know. And then
as I started camming, I'm a really open minded person
and I kind of like to do things like for
the experience, you know, So someone could come to me
and have a crazy fetish and I'm like, sure, let's
let's try it.
Speaker 2: And so I kind of just did whatever.
Speaker 3: I did the more vanilla stuff where it was just masturbation,
and then I'd do the fetish stuff and eventually I
just somehow built a femdom audience. I mean, I kind
of feel like it started on TikTok. A lot of
people found me that way. I started talking about my
like femdom experiences on cam and then they just found
me on cam and so now, yeah, I'm on a
pretty I'm on a camp site that's pretty like Vanilla,
Like it's very porny, but somehow I have a large
femdom audience on there and vanilla people too, So yeah.
Speaker 1: How did you find that, Like femdom was your thing though,
because you have to have a certain kind of attitude.
Speaker 3: I just thought it was fun, Like I genuinely it
excited me, like I didn't I didn't know that I
was into it. And at the time, I was like, oh,
I'm a sub forever, I'm a sub only and that's it.
And then I just started exploring it. And I feel
like I've learned a lot about my sexuality, like through
the job, and I just.
Speaker 2: Think it's fun. I love.
Speaker 3: I think something about means I love giving people like
the experiences that they want. So when someone comes to
me and says, this is what I'm into and maybe
they're feeling shame about it, maybe they're feeling like they
don't have an outlet for it.
Speaker 2: I love being that person to give them the experience.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So, speaking of like kinks and all of that,
what are some of the more like interesting custom requests
that you've gotten? Are like interesting and well, we'll get
into like the obvious elephant in the room at some point,
but I don't want to touch on that yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well there's a couple that I talked about this
one the other day, and there's someone who his thing
is me pumping a pedal of an old truck.
Speaker 1: Okay, I've heard this before, what y pumping?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: Yes, I've heard this at some other It might have
been Candlebox, who like was the queen of custom requests,
and there was someone who loved her pumping on like
a like a pedal like an.
Speaker 3: Old truck, and he wants the foot arched in little shorts.
So I don't have an old truck. So I just
use YouTube bodios and I'm like playing like the engine
Revy and I'm.
Speaker 2: Like it's not working, and then YouTube audios are really
really good.
Speaker 3: I think more people don't utilize it because I have
another guy who's the thing is that he wants his
heart to stop, and like he'll call me on sex
Panther and he'll be like yeah, my, like he'll just
start talking to me and then he'll start going out
of it kind of and I'm like, oh, no, are
we losing him?
Speaker 2: Are we losing him?
Speaker 3: And so then we have like the little flatline audio
on YouTube and the what is it called defibrillator.
Speaker 1: Yeah, defibulator that like shocks you.
Speaker 3: I was in Paris with my best friend recently and
he's one of her clients too, and so we were together,
we were both nurses, and we were talking back and forth.
Speaker 2: Like we're losing him, We're losing.
Speaker 1: Him, and like an episode of Gray's Anatomy.
Speaker 2: I don't know any about this. I'm like, CNA school
did not prepare me for this. We're like cool here,
we like do the shock.
Speaker 1: We were dying.
Speaker 3: I'm really sure I recorded the behind the scenes of
this because it was so funny.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So and this is all just audio stuff.
I fits sex Panther, right, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I like phone calls, video call, that's not it is
so fun. Yeah, it's just ones like that. Sometimes I'll
do like video on there but this one is a
phone call, which is great because how would I explain
that I don't have a defibrillator exactly?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's amazing. Yeah. The pedal pushing, Yeah,
I've heard.
Speaker 2: I think I've never Wow.
Speaker 1: I think for Candle though, it was she to be
wearing heels. Okay, they may maybe like red heels or something,
but it was definitely that.
Speaker 2: What do you think it is?
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that probably they were in the
car with somebody that they were attracted to at like
a very specific time in their life. Usually fetishes are
born from what I am understand, Usually fetishers are born
out of like something that happened during like a kind
of sexual awakening moment. So usually during adolescence. That's why
a lot of you know, guys are into like older women,
Like there's a hot teacher or something that like you know,
gave them boners in class or something like that, like nylons,
like you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I took a human sexuality class and we learned that,
and I'm like this makes so much sense.
Speaker 2: Like all the guys that.
Speaker 3: Like wearing panties and stuff, I'm like, they probably got
in trouble for like wearing someone's panties a certain time.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I think it has something to do
with that. So my guess would be at experience or
there was a TV show there was some sexy girl
was trying to start the car and she could you
know what I mean, and it just like stuck in
their head.
Speaker 4: Was it a scary movie because you know scary movie? Well, yeah,
and there's always boobs and scary movies. Yeah, the hot
girl always dies first. Yeah, so who knows. I mean,
I've always wanted to like ask guys like where their
fetishes come from.
Speaker 3: I'm a very like inquisitive person, and it's so hard
in the middle. Like sometimes I get people's kings that
are so specific.
Speaker 2: I'm like, and what made you like this?
Speaker 4: You have judgment, but like I need to know, but
keep it sexy so that I.
Speaker 2: Can't And I'm like it just haunts me at night
and just getting down on my journal.
Speaker 1: So you own IGF Studio, which helps other models build
their careers within their own personal boundaries. What made you
want to build that? And what does that look like?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So it's an online webcam studio, so it's not the typical.
You know, they go into a place and then they
stream from the Are you familiar.
Speaker 2: With webcam studios?
Speaker 1: Yes, I am.
Speaker 2: Okay, so they're less common in the US in Columbia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I've been to some in Columbia and yeah,
they're pretty cool. The one that I went to they
have a dentist office in the studios.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really cool.
Speaker 1: And wait, like a real one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they like do dental work for the girls and stuff.
Oh yeah, no, it's amazing. It's a it's a crazy studio.
I did a vlog of me touring it.
Speaker 2: Oh really, it's really cool.
Speaker 3: I'm someone who travels a lot, so I didn't have
the funds or the lifestyle to have one in person,
especially in America, it's so expensive. So I started realizing
that all of these OnlyFans agencies were popping up, and
I heard horror stories. I mean, we've all heard of
bad ones, right, we've heard of good ones, We've heard
of really bad ones. I heard of them taking fifty percent,
sixty percent. And I, throughout my career, have put out
so much like free advice, like my YouTube channels dedicated
to it, on my social media, like I love helping
other webcam models, and I thought, how can I turn
this passion project you know of me posting informative content
into a business that doesn't exploit models, doesn't you know,
influence people to do things outside of what they want
to do. And we only take five percent because I'm
I do I'm not doing it to live off of it.
I'm doing it because you know, I want to employ
people and I want to help people in their careers.
And so that's kind of where it started, is just
the idea of, Okay, what.
Speaker 2: Can I give people that I wish I had in
the beginning.
Speaker 3: Because I was eighteen years old, which sorry, eight to
the eighteen year olds, I wouldn't. I would not let
an eighteen year old join the studio, But you know,
people who are joining it and they don't know what
to do, we can give them those tools and support.
Speaker 2: So and my team is really awesome.
Speaker 1: What do you think about when you think back to
when you were eighteen that you wish you'd done differently?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not really the kind of person that looks
back on my life and is like I would change anything,
because it got me exactly where I am. So it's
hard for me to kind of think of what I
would do differently, because I think life just goes the
way it should.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everything happens for a yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's hard for me to look back and
be like, oh, I wish I didn't do that, because
you know, are there things that I could have not done? Yeah,
I could have not done shows for two dollars you
know or whatever. Yeah, but it got me here, so yeah,
part of my journey. I'm nice to my past self.
Speaker 1: So a lot of people have a pretty service level
idea of what webcam modeling actually involves. What do they
consistently get wrong.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people think we literally just
get on cam, we just start getting straight to it, masturbating,
going crazy, And I would say it's different for everyone,
but like I spend the majority of my time talking
and hanging out and yeah, being in my cute little lingerie.
But I would say, like the sexy parts of it
are probably like twenty percent and the rest is just
really hanging out with my audience.
Speaker 2: So I would say that people think it's easy.
Speaker 3: You just get on get straight to it, and you
make thousands of dollars and the grind is crazy.
Speaker 2: The camgirl grind is crazy.
Speaker 1: It takes a while to build an audience.
Speaker 2: It does.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like I mean, cam girls were
here first, but it's kind of like a twitch streamer,
you know, like they don't just get on and they
have yeah, thousands of viewers.
Speaker 2: You need to build that and show up for your people.
Speaker 1: And Yeah, if there was someone watching who's thinking about
getting into cam modeling, approximately how long could they expect
to need to be like camming consistently for before they
could like build an audience that would make a difference
monetarily in their life.
Speaker 2: I want to say six months.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's really different for everyone, and sites have new
model tags, so like a new model tag could be
it could be a week, it could be a month.
And so sometimes people will make a lot when they
first start because of that new model tag, and they
won't be consistent and it will drop off and then
they'll quit. I would say, yeah, give it six months
to really see like the fruits of your labor. Even
a year sometimes, but to me, the money's worth it,
Like if you can give it that year, or maybe
you have an extra job, but then you're still streaming
and you're consistent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 3: It's really so subjective, and it's like it's really based
on how much you put into it, Like you get
what you put into.
Speaker 1: It, right, And when you see that new model tag,
you mean that, like most camsites send more traffic to
new models, you featured it a certain way, so you're
going to have a lot more people like visit you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: I think I tried like camming once and I had
no intention of doing anything. I can't remember why I
did it. Maybe I could just I think someone told
me that I could just go on there and not
take my clothes off.
Speaker 2: I mean that's true.
Speaker 1: It is true.
Speaker 3: I shows completely where I make great money.
Speaker 2: No nudity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know that there are some girls that
don't do nudi at oh yeah, but I definitely wasn't.
But yeah, the amount of traffic that I got on
the first day, I was like, this is a lot.
But then like people were like so disappointed. They're like,
so what do you do? I'm like nothing, and they're
like bye eoms, I know I should have right. How
has the webcam industry changed over the ten years you've
been in it.
Speaker 3: Well, only fans we kind of like talked about because
really shaken up our industry and a lot I saw
a lot of the top web cam models go to
only fans and just quit camming completely. I think that
people have this idea that camming is dead. Camming is
not dead, like if you're consistent with it. I just
think that less people are starting out camming, so it's
not as widely talked like the industry is still booming,
like it's it's an amaz the industry, but I think
OnlyFans kind of like overtook it and is what's talked
about more in the industry. I would say that I
haven't seen like too much change other than like, yeah,
we're what platforms people are on and stuff. Yeah, because
cam is still great for me. Like, I don't subscribe
to the idea that camming is dead in the slightest.
People still want that personal connection and they always will
And with the rise of everything being fake and AI
and agencies, people are still going to pursue cam models
probably more we're coming back.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, actually, what's your opinion on the
rise of AI, Like are you afraid of it or
do you feel that the ability to interact with a
real person, like, especially with camming.
Speaker 3: Is my feeling on that is, if someone wants an
AI model, they don't want me. I don't look like AI,
Like I don't interact like AI. So you know, some
people are like, oh AI is taking over the industry,
It's taking our jobs. It's like there's always going to
be those people that want the authentic Lydia love experience
and if they want you know, AI, they're not They're
not gonna seek me out. That's not what I'm offering.
So I think that there's gonna be a pendulum swing
where AI is new and exciting, it's the shiny new toy,
and then people are gonna get sick of it and
they're gonna be like, I just want to talk to
a real girl. I just want to know that I'm
talking to a real girl. So I personally am not
worried and I'm not really into like the fear mongering.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, hey, I'm so bad in.
Speaker 3: This industry because there's a bunch like every industry, and
I go to and there's new AI companies popping up,
and we'll see how many are still here in five years.
Speaker 1: Did you go to the Avan Awards this year.
Speaker 2: Remember, I think I skipped it. I think I skipped
this year.
Speaker 1: So I skipped this year. I was at a b
M but and I did the red carpet for three hours.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, No, you know what.
Speaker 1: It was three and a half hours that I didn't
go to the awards. No, no, no, But I didn't go
to the awards because after I was so tired. I've
been standing for a three and a half hours talking NonStop.
But I saw a clip from there was I can't
remember the name of the company, and even if I
could or wouldn't say it, I don't want to call
people up. But there was an add for like an
AI like company on and it got booed yeah, like
big time from the entire audience. Yeah, And I was like, whoa,
that's I do think that that was. That was a
really interesting moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think people are treating the OT industry, they're
training AI kind of like the gold rush, Like what
can we create and get rich off of real quick?
And yeah, the people have money for sponsorships because they're
dumping it in. So if we feel like we're seeing
more AI companies around, it's just because they have the
money to sponsor things. It's not really because they're actually
like creating something that will like add value to your
career or to the industry, you know, not saying that
there can't be one, but I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1: Walk me through the moment that you saw those Daily
Mail photos and recognize Byronnoum. What was that actually? Like?
Speaker 3: Well, it was jarring, Like it was incredibly shocking. So
I was scrolling on X and I see the photos
and initially I like, you know when like your brain
doesn't process something and then you're like, oh shit, that's
what happened to me. I was scrolling and I saw
the tits and I was like hold on. But then
I saw the face and it clicked. And I immediately
texted my best friend because she was familiar with my
big titty client. We had gone on a trip about
a year ago, like April actually know it was exactly
yourgol April of last year, and I had told her
about my big titty client because we did a session.
We were on tallhome and I text HERM like there's
no way, and we were just freaking out about it.
So it was just kind of like a a weird
double take moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, what was your initial reaction because you've been
clear that you weren't the one who broke the story,
and you weren't. It was the day and mail, and
you know, I know that you don't make a habit
of exposing clients. Yeah, so what made you? Yeah right,
I mean what made you decide to like speak out?
Speaker 3: Well, I had no idea who he was, like, because
I recognize this face, of course, But how am I
supposed to know that that was her husband?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, especially like in a
webcam setting.
Speaker 1: And also like I don't think that people like he
was never really featured much.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, yeah, And I mean I keep up with politics,
but not enough to know what like people's husbands looked like. Well, okay,
the first thing is it was kind of like an
easy decision for me because that information was literally already
out there, like his pictures were already out there. I
didn't think that it was honestly even going to be
that shocking to people for me to say, oh my god,
he was one of my clients, because he was and
he I specialized in the sssification niche, So I just
thought my friends would be like oh that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I just felt like immediately there was hypocrisy there. I
knew that his wife was very anti trans, so when
I saw that, and I know that being trans is
not the same as being a cross dresser, but I
just felt like their their politics were you know, I
stand against it, And I thought, is it really that
big of a deal if it's already out there?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like my motivation it wasn't extremely like
thought through right away. I just knew I his wife's politics,
it's already out there. Yes, he was one of my clients.
It wasn't as like calculated really, if anything, I didn't
have time to really calculate because I immediately commented like,
holy shit, he's one of my clients.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and then what was like, what happened afterwards?
You started getting contacted by news out.
Speaker 3: So you're like, I honestly, and you're in this industry,
you know, we get kind of desensitized to things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I.
Speaker 3: Didn't think it was that crazy. I really thought, like
my best friend we were laughing about it. We're like,
oh my god, you're big titty guys, you know, married
to Christine.
Speaker 2: Now that's crazy.
Speaker 3: I thought maybe my followers would be like, this is insane, Like.
Speaker 1: You didn't think it was going to get picked up
by the news the way?
Speaker 3: Oh no, And if I you know, I can be
an anxious person sometimes, and this did cause me some anxiety.
I don't regret speaking out at all, but I didn't
think that far. Like I didn't think that it would
really And so whenever the Times from London reached out
to me, I had a conversation with them literally through
like Instagram, dms, like audios, and I didn't even really
think that they would a story on it. I didn't
tell them that they couldn't, but I didn't think that
it was that notable. Really, I didn't think my experience
was so crazy. I dressed men up like women all
the time. And then someone from I believe it was
Daily Beast but I can't remember, was really really on it.
And I was actually kind of like trying to avoid
talking to him because I just I didn't think it through,
you know, And he called me on X and I
just said fucking and I answered and we talked about it,
and then I ignored literally everyone else, like I did
an interview the other day, and then this is my
second interview. I haven't talked to anyone else. I was
very choosy on like who I spoke to about it,
and there were a ton of opportunities, but I didn't
really view this as like a way to build my career. Yeah,
it just kind of happened and I said fuck it
and followed it.
Speaker 1: So Yeah, And honestly, my guess is that, you know,
at least this would be my fear of being interviewed
by people outside of the sex work industry. You're, you know,
stand the possibility of getting vilified, getting blamed simply because
I mean we are already so stigmatized for what we
do anyways. Yeah, and so my guess is like you
were just concerned about getting stuck in like a fucking
Peers Morgan interview where you would just get attacked, like
your character it would be attacked.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think for me, I was worried about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like I can kind of hold my
own like people who take time to talk to me,
I think they can kind of see my heart. I
think I was just more like, I know, this sounds
silly to people, because a lot of people take this
as an opportunity to blow up and like do everything.
Speaker 2: I just didn't really feel the need to do that.
I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was kind of just more simple where I
don't want to take every opportunity. If I take all
these opportunities, I feel like I just wouldn't get the
ones that were meant for me. Like I feel like
talking to you this is a great platform, and the
interview I did the other day, that's a great platform.
But if I would have taken all the other random
ones and built my name that way, that just doesn't really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sound great. And then there's been a lot
of other people who have come out afterwards, a lot,
a lot. Yeah, I mean he had a lot of
their experience.
Speaker 2: They're crazier than mine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about the actual like like kink bimbification,
because so many people had never heard of it. You know.
I remember my husband being like my husband's like were
super into politics, and he was like, I've never heard
of bimboification before. I'm like, babe, everyone you know thought
about him bo, But yeah, can you explain to the audience,
like what that specific kink is?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I mean in terms of like, clearly I'm
not a bembo that's not my fetish. But if it's
a woman, they just kind of want to be like
their ideal feminine like what they view as beautiful and women,
which is like very exaggerated features of big boobs, big ass,
big tits. Now the guy's into it. He wants that.
That's what he wants to be, that's he idolizes that.
Speaker 1: So he wants to be like a he wants to
be a bembo, slapt bimbo. But so you don't believe
that Byron necessarily wanted to be like a girl.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I personally in my experiences with him, which
were not as intense as like the people that have
a hundred screenshots of conversations.
Speaker 1: With him, were recorded like the audio yeah, stuff like that,
which is crazy.
Speaker 3: You know, I didn't get the impression that he fully
I thought that it was just a normal, everyday, like
king experience. Like did he talk about like the typical
slut things like you know, I want to be a girl,
I want to be a bembo, I want to.
Speaker 2: Tuck cock like all the things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's like kind of I've met so many
straight men that play like that, or you know, men
that identify as men that play like that, and so
I didn't think that he wanted to be But now
I've seen someone come out and say that he actually
said that he wanted to be a woman. So in
my experience, I kind of just took it as a
man playing and he didn't like fully dress up like
some people.
Speaker 2: They want the wig, they want the makeup. Everything. With me,
sometimes you would do lip gloss, but it was really
like the boobs. The outfit.
Speaker 1: It wasn't really like it was yoga pants was like yoga,
but also.
Speaker 3: Like spandex type of short like tight shorts, things like that.
It wasn't the full look. So I didn't really get
the impression like, oh, this is a transitioning person, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then so your role in this is he wants
to be like dominated.
Speaker 3: I kind of took it as he wanted like slut encouragement. Okay,
so is that a form of domination, Yeah, But I
think it was more of he wanted to be hyped
up and encouraged to be sluttier, to be a bembo,
because like, like I said, I'm not a membo. He's
not coming to me to worship my bimbo body. He
wanted me to encourage him to be a bembo, and
I'm I've built a niche for for that versissification, which
is I guess a bit different but also kind of
in the same realm you.
Speaker 1: Okay, So with him, like specifically, was it more like,
you know, encouraging him to have these big bimbo like.
Speaker 3: Oh, your tits look so good, Like turn around and
spank yourself for me, like put on your leggings. He
liked to be told, like to put on his leggings.
Speaker 2: Oh it looks so tight.
Speaker 3: Oh you you know, want to do this act with
this person, you know, things like that.
Speaker 1: Right, So less of like you dumbly, I wasn't like
it wasn't like a degrading kind of thing maybe to him,
but you know what I mean, like that kind of explicity,
like you know, like.
Speaker 2: That's kind of not my femdom approach.
Speaker 3: Really, Like I'm just saying, I'm like girl next door,
like sometimes I'll be mean, but it's more of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just making people be their slutty.
Speaker 1: Selves, helping to encourage their inner slut to come up.
Speaker 3: I encourage and that's what I feel like. People ask me, like,
did you dominate him?
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know. I kind of feel like
I slut encouraged slut influencer.
Speaker 1: Now the fact that he did you see his face?
Like right, right, but did you see it like the
first time that you cammed with him or did it
take him a while to decide to show his face?
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the thing.
Speaker 3: Whenever I do so many of these shows, I didn't
know he was a notable person, so I can't really remember,
like specifically, like did I see his face, like you know,
logistics like that. I know that I saw his face times,
but there were also a lot of times where he
would show boobs and the body only, so I can't
remember the first time. There's so many shows I do,
so it's hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, obviously him showing his face was a great risk,
which clearly came back and him in the ass, because
like it's one thing for there to be a rumor,
but to have like evidence, and he didn't deny it.
You're yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: Think the media reached out to him and he said
that was me.
Speaker 1: He said, didn't he say i'll be I'll talk about
it when I'm ready or something like that. Yeah, I
mean you gotta give him credit for that.
Speaker 2: Oh no, for sure. It's like, what are you gonna do, dude?
You're out there, your tits are out there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like Trump. It's like I didn't start
a wark.
Speaker 2: It's like throws some rockets hand like.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people have questioned, like, why did
he take the risk of showing his face? But you
think that that was maybe part of the kink.
Speaker 2: I think it was part of the king.
Speaker 3: Now there's been like rumors about, oh, did he want
to be black Milt and blah blah blah. I personally
didn't take it as he wanted to be black Milt.
I just took it as a lot of these guys
do want the risk of showing their face that they
could be exposed. And most of them don't actually want
to be exposed, but when they're in that mindset, the
risk it scares them and it turns them on.
Speaker 2: So I could have recognized him. I didn't.
Speaker 3: I don't keep up with people's lives, you know that deeply.
But what if I did recognize him and say, oh
my god, this Christiname's husband and I took pictures. I
could have totally done that so I think he kind
of did like the risk of it all. And I
mean he had to have known he's putting his name
his face. Like I haven't read everyone's experiences, but like
I've seen enough screenshots to know, like he was out
there with everyone.
Speaker 1: You told the Daily Beasts that there's no way christin
Noome didn't know about her husband's behavior, and what makes
you believe that?
Speaker 3: Now, I will say that's probably a drastic statement on
my end, like there's no way, so allegedly my opinion,
you know, I've never been married to someone for thirty
two years or something. I feel like if my man,
if I had, if I was in a relationship and
they wore my leggings or my clothes, I think I
would know.
Speaker 4: Would you notice your loose or dirty idea of my
husband trying to fit into my fucking leggings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm like, I think I would know. But also,
I mean, I don't know what that what kind of
marriage they have. I don't know the intricacies of that,
but I would hope that if I was married to
someone for that long, I would know their most vulnerable
parts and maybe at some point they would come to
me and say hey, I have this interest.
Speaker 2: Hey, I you know, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you would have to have a pretty open
relationship because a lot of people can't talk about their
kinks with their significant other because they're too free, especially
if your significant other is literally like I know platforms
on like anti LGBT, and I like, right, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's like I might be viewing this from a privileged
place because I feel like, if I was in a relationship,
I want to know the entirety of my person and
love and except that maybe that's not where they were.
Speaker 2: But I don't like thirty years.
Speaker 1: Like over thirty years, it feels like there was some
signs that maybe she chose to ignore.
Speaker 3: There's no way that you like, do you know, Like
where's all a lot of balloons going? Where are balloons
in the trash?
Speaker 2: Like what were you doing?
Speaker 3: Like you had a party while I was gone, Like
I feel like how do you?
Speaker 2: How do you not know?
Speaker 3: And then the thing was like her cheating publicly, like
you know, she had a cheating scandal with Corey Lwandowski
I think that was his name, and he was also
in politics, and she was grilled on that and I
mean he sat behind her during that, And so I
do have my theories on like maybe they just had
because a lot of these guys that are into bembification cecification,
they're also into cooking and their wife fucking other people.
Maybe that's what they just did behind closed doors, and
then public.
Speaker 1: They were they have to say they were major hypocrites.
Speaker 3: But I also think that a lot of guys that
are into bemification and also into cooking, what's the closest
that they can get to fucking another man without actually
fucking other man their wife fucking another man and telling
them about it.
Speaker 2: So that's just my theory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that's absolutely true. Posted about asking DHS
not to take you out, which is funny, But did
you actually like have any real concern about your safety.
Speaker 3: I feel like and like my friends are more concerned
than I am. I have a very like to life.
I'm just kind of like, if that's my journey, that's
my journey, Like, please don't.
Speaker 2: I love living, I love being alive. My dogs need me,
you know, like, I please don't do it.
Speaker 3: I feel like they probably have bigger problems to worry about.
Speaker 2: Do I think that? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Do you think that they're gonna leave me alone forever?
I don't know. I don't know. I kind of did it,
you know, I didn't think it through. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Do you have you had any like big blowback from
like no.
Speaker 3: Because I feel, well, maybe I will once like the
interview I did the other day is dropped like maybe
this one.
Speaker 2: Who knows. But I think a lot of people like.
Speaker 1: Oh, you'll have people on YouTube like I mean, look,
you could be talking about like your wonderful summer day
and you just kind of you that you do like that,
so that's YouTube for you.
Speaker 3: But like I mean, I have an uncle who's like
super right wing, and he called me he was dying laughing.
He's like, that's my fucking niece, like laughing.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: We'll see if I get if I get hate from people,
I think that anyone can see the hypocrisy in it, right,
Like for me, I think I've made it clear.
Speaker 2: If people want to believe something, believe it.
Speaker 3: I like hearing other people's point of view is because
if I don't, then how do I know that I
believe what I believe? Right?
Speaker 2: I just don't like hypocrites.
Speaker 3: So if you have a fully formed idea that is
completely opposite of mine, I'll hear you out. But why
are you hypocrite? Why are you anti trans? Anti gay?
Speaker 2: But then you want to talk about all this with me?
Speaker 1: Did you notice a subscriber number boost after this?
Speaker 2: I did, But.
Speaker 3: A publication or I don't even know what site it
was said that I had like an amazing surge and
it was because I was getting like harassed by other
sex workers on X like just they were being so mean,
saying like the most like foul things about me for
talking about this public and so I or I quoted
something and I was like, y'all are about to be
really mad at all the amazing subscribers I've had because
people were saying that my career is over.
Speaker 2: No one's ever.
Speaker 3: Gonna, you know, spend money on me again. So yeah,
I had a little income boost. It was cool, but
it wasn't as like insane as people think.
Speaker 1: Are you worried about that at all?
Speaker 3: No? I figures, like, like I think the majority of people,
I actually haven't had anyone come to me and say
I'm not playing with you anymore.
Speaker 2: I'm unsubscribing I'm doing this because you did that.
Speaker 3: People have been giving me a lot of praise and
like people that that.
Speaker 2: Come to me, like for femnom.
Speaker 3: I've even had new subscribers be like I want which
I didn't even expose it, but they come to be
like I want to be exposed, just like Gnome and
like I like, oh my gosh, I love what you did.
I'm like, oh god, I've been getting a lot of
new subscribers that are really excited.
Speaker 1: That want to be that want like that exposure.
Speaker 2: Exposure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got the ultimate exposures. So they're like looking
at it like this is fucking amazing.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if I cause that is all
I mean, we just talked about that as a whole fetish,
like being exposed for like you know, spending money on
a cam girl rather than like buying your wife flowers
or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's wild.
Speaker 3: If for some reason this situation made all of my
people leave me, I'd be bummed.
Speaker 2: I'd probably just go like open a thrift shop or
something like.
Speaker 1: I don't know, probably just like go, yeah, I don't
see that happening.
Speaker 2: It's not happening.
Speaker 1: But because I mean, you said and you seem to me.
And look, you've been doing this for a long time, right,
So if you were someone who's in the habit of
like exposing all of your clients, like you would, we
would know by now there's way cooler people, yeah, like athletes, rappers, actually,
like there's way cooler people.
Speaker 3: And you know, I wouldn't. I wouldn't expose it, Like
why why would I? I think that people deserve their privacy,
and I think that people supporting online sex worchs is cool.
I just think this specific situation, it's like, how are
you so like, you know, typical conservative family values, but
then behind closed doors you're doing this, and you know,
I just think what's good for them should be good forever,
you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's like, and this is such a
We've seen this happen so many times, right, Like the
people that are the loudest voice against gay people, sex workers,
whatever are the ones that are like the most deeply
entrenched in it, like personally, and they're just being driven
by like a sense of shame and they're overcompensating for
it by like speaking against it, and it's just like it.
Speaker 2: Makes them feel like I don't really know what it is.
Speaker 3: Honestly, it makes them feel like they're fighting against it,
but they're still consuming it. That's what I don't really understand.
It's like, if you feel like you have a problem
with porn, like go get.
Speaker 2: Help for it.
Speaker 3: But why like bash the entire industry and you know
what I mean, and like really like speak hate towards it.
Speaker 2: We get enough hate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's just because there's so much stigma
and so much shamer on sex. I mean, people are
raised with like you know, it's hard for me to
understand because I was raised by pornographers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my family's really chill to my mom's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I had a totally different experience. But a
lot of people are raised like in an environment where
like shame about sex and their bodies and desires is
like deeply entrenched in their psyche. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I try to give those people grace.
Speaker 3: Really, I think a lot of times people are just
like fuck you if you you know, I try to understand, like,
if you were raised that certain.
Speaker 2: Way, maybe that's why you're acting out.
Speaker 3: I just I think it's really important to have empathy,
you know, Like I was raised completely different from a
lot of people, and I don't agree with a lot
of people, but I have baseline empathy for them, Like,
and what other industry is so hated by their own consumers?
Speaker 1: Like what, that's crazy? It's just like you, like you
follow girls just so you can tell them how much
you despise what they do.
Speaker 3: I feel like maybe it's they hate themselves for so
then they're like, how can I take this hate and
put it somewhere that's not at myself? Oh the girl,
It's like, how are you jerking off with one hand
and typing hate comments with the other, Like chill, dude.
Speaker 1: I mean some people ambidextrous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got it handled literally. All right.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for coming on and talking
about all of that. Really appreciated. I know that it's
a topic that you know, you were careful about who
you spoke with, and so like, I feel very privileged
and honor that you came to talk to us about it.
Speaker 3: I love this podcast. I've been a fan since the beginning,
So I love this podcast. Career goal achieved. Actually this
is on one of my career goal lists, so just saying.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's amazing. So I just want to ask you
a couple questions to kind of like wrap things up.
Where do you see the webcam and creator's side of
the industry heading? Do you think it's sustainable? Do you
think it's oversaturated or something in between.
Speaker 3: I don't believe in oversaturation. People love saying that, especially
about the industry. I think everyone is so uniquely different.
We all have different careers. So I think webcamming will
always be here. Webcamming has I'm twenty eight. Webcamming has
existed before. I think the first site was maybe in
ninety six ninety seven.
Speaker 2: It's going to be around.
Speaker 3: People are craving that, like live connection online, and I
think that camming is coming back. Like you said, it's
kind of a pendulum swing of there's all this fakeness
AI all of that, and people are going to come
back to camming and really start discovering it.
Speaker 1: So what campsite? Can people find you.
Speaker 3: On cam Soda? Yeah, on cam Soda and I love
the site. I think it's really fun and that's like
my homesite. I've tried so many different sites since my homesite.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you again for coming on, thank you for
having me. And can you tell everybody where else they
can find you online?
Speaker 3: You can find me on Instagram at your Internet GF.
You can find me on YouTube just starts Lyda Love
and on x Lydia Love xxx.
Speaker 2: I also have an OnlyFans Lydia Love.
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