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world Got Official. So my guest today has spent ten

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years in the adult industry as a webcam model, femdown performer,

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OnlyFans creator, and cam's studio owner. She's built a career

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from the ground up in the digital age and now

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runs her own agency helping other models do the same.

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But if her name sounds familiar right now, it's probably

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not because of any of that. Lydia Love is the

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first of Byron Nomes camgirls to speak out publicly after

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it emerged that the husband of the former Homeland Security

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set secretary, Christy Noam had allegedly been a regular client

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of hers for femed on sessions for over a two

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year period. But she didn't go looking for this story.

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She didn't even know who he was until the photos

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surfaced and she recognized his face in the news. And

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trust me, she has a lot to say about it.

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We'll get to all of that, but first we're going

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to start from the beginning. With Lydia Love. Welcome to

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the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me, of course.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here, of course, and

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thank you for your patience.

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Speaker 2: Oh worth the wait, Okay, worth the wait. They astead

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of that county.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah she got here like I don't know,

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good hour ago and the furniture got delivered and you know, anyways.

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Speaker 2: Say took care of me. I got coffee, yeah, good, Yes.

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Speaker 1: Got coffee, talked about getting an OFTV channel, all kinds

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of stuff we had time. Yeah, all right, So let's

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start at the beginning, like we always do. How did

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you first get into the adult industry?

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Speaker 3: So in twenty sixteen, I turned eighteen years old, and

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essentially the week I turned eighteen, I hopped on a

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cam site. I was familiar with it through like Twitter.

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Someone actually had reached out to me before I was eighteen,

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and I didn't tell them content or anything. They reached

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out and asked me if I was a webcam model,

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and I was like, what is that? And they asked

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if I had an Amazon wish list, And so the

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seed was kind of planted. And I didn't look down

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on the industry or anything. I didn't look down on dancers.

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So as soon as I turned eighteen, I jumped.

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Speaker 1: In, Wow, and did you have like ambitions to do

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something else before then?

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Speaker 3: Well, I always kind of knew that I was going

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to have an unconventional job. I didn't know what it was.

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I was like, I want to be business own. I

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don't know what it was. At the time I was

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working at when I first started, was working at Talco Belt.

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I was also a CNA, and then I became a

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strip club waitress. So I did like a bunch of

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different jobs. I think that I was kind of going

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the direction of maybe being a.

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Speaker 1: Therapist, which you kind of are model.

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Speaker 3: Oh exactly, And I wanted to be like a sex

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related therapists, like kind of helping people through their like

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sexual traumas or things like that.

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Speaker 2: And so in a way, yeah, yeah, I do that.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of emotional labor in being a cam model.

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There is so much, especially camming, because you guys have

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one on one direct interaction with fans. And like, I mean,

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how long do you average like cam for because like

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the hours that I hear.

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Speaker 3: Oftener, Yeah, so I mean I've done like twelve hour session.

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if it's a streaming day.

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Speaker 2: But it really just varies for me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm kind of in a place where I don't

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have to do the crazy hours. If I do three

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hours a day, you know I'm ranking on the site.

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I'm doing great.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah when you started, were you doing much

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longer sessions?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I was doing much longer sessions and I was not

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making good money at all. Like I would probably do

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like five hours and make twenty bucks and be like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Let's go at all.

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Speaker 1: So question for you, because you know the this is

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a contentious topic that I hear so often. You know,

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a lot of people believe that eighteen is too young

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to get into the industry. Being older now having been

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in the industry for a while, how do you feel

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about that? Do you think you should have waited or

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do you think it was the right time for you?

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Speaker 2: For me personally, it was the right time.

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Speaker 3: I think that the industry saved me from like being

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in more unsafe situations like at the time I was,

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I was on my own. I went through a phase

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where I was essentially homeless, like living in motels, and

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if I didn't have the option to get on a

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campsite or go work at the strip club, maybe I

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would have been in even more unsafe situations trying to

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get money in other ways. So for my personal situation,

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it worked out for me. You know, ten years later,

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I have a great life.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 3: But I think it's really subjective, Like it's hard for

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me to say a hard no.

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Speaker 2: You shouldn't be eighteen and do this. Now.

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Speaker 3: If I talk to an eighteen year old tomorrow and

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they said I think I want to join the industry,

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I'd be like, have you tried other things? Like have

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you done anything else yet? Like I have a sister

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who's twenty, and because of me, she doesn't want to

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be in the industry because I don't know, she just

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has her own opinions. But if she came to me,

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I would be so terrified because there's just so many

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things that can go wrong. You know, there's a lot

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that can go right, but there's a lot of things

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that can go wrong for someone that young. Your brain's

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not developed. I yeah, just navigated it correctly, I think, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean I will also say that, you know, when

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people ask me about getting into the adult industry. I

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always suggest and I've always done this, like before I

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even knew. I mean, obviously, like now being partnered with Stripchat,

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I know a lot more about camming than I used to.

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it's a You're in a safe place, you're separated from anyone,

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You're in your own bedroom, you can turn it off

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at any time, and you know you're in complete control

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over anything and everything that happens. There's nobody who's telling

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you like how to unless you get caught up with

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an agency or and one of those weird camras are.

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Speaker 2: Weird caam agencies I didn't know existed.

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Speaker 3: But no, when people come to me, I always recommend

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cam I mean, the thing is a lot of people

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nowadays they see girls and only fans that seem to

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have hit overnight success and caming is a grind and

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it can really really pay off, but it takes work.

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why would you not cam Because they bring you the traffic,

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they bring you the audience.

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Speaker 2: You just have to build it.

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Speaker 3: It's not the same as only fans where you have

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to have ten social media accounts and you have to

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put on TikTok and helpe you go viral. It's like

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they're bringing you traffic. But also sometimes people hear the

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percentage they take and get scared, But they're bringing you traffic,

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like you don't. You get to stream and you don't

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really have to do all the other things that people

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do to grow and only fans.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's definitely a trade off. And I think

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you really hit the nail on the head. And this

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is something that you know, we talk about a lot,

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especially like I said now that I'm partnered with stripchat,

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because it is because ever since only Fans blew up

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and became such a big thing, and you know, it's

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I'm like so grateful to only fans because it's really

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enabled me to, you know, try different things. And actually,

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if it hadn't been for only fans, I wouldn't have

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been able to take certain chances and start new ventures

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that actually ended up leading to me becoming introduced to

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strip chat and forming a partnership with them. But I

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wouldn't have been able to get there if I hadn't

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had the income from only fans that allowed me to

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like step away from directing because that's such a time

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consuming thing. And then there's you know, that's all you

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can do. But you know these stories of these girls

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making millions and millions of dollars, and you can make

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a crazy amount of money on OnlyFans if you have

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that social media following, but you have to have that following,

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and so many people don't have that, and it's hard

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to get there, especially with how unfriendly social media sites

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are too us. I mean, I know that you've had

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experiences with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah to tiktoks down this week, baby, So yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean you just keep building like new ones.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, every time I get to like a hundred,

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I was gonna just get taken out. Like I get

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a hundred thousand followers on TikTok, it's gone. It's crazy,

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which is I'm this is why I love camming, because

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it's like I can stream and I make my money

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and social media secondary. You know, I'm sad about losing

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my tiktoks, but I can go on cam and make

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incredible money for the month.

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Speaker 2: Still.

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Speaker 1: So you said at the beginning when you first started

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camming that you really weren't making a lot of money.

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What got you past that hump? Like how did you

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get to a place where it was like a viable

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career and you were like, Okay, this can like fund

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my lifestyle.

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Speaker 3: I started camming twenty sixteen, and then the end of

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twenty seventeen twenty eighteen, I was really clip heavy. I

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joined a clip site and I went all in and

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then I took a break from camming during that time.

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like a little following online and I was in a

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good place to where I had an apartment. I wasn't

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going from you know, basement to motel six to wherever

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I was in. I was just in a different place

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in life where I could really commit the time to it.

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Speaker 2: And I think that was the.

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Speaker 3: Major change is that I treated it as more of

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a job, like I want to build something in this

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rather than I'm going to log on on a Wednesday

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at around random time, on a Friday at random time.

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I like, I really made a set schedule. And so

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then I remember my first day back from camming after

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not streaming for like six months, I had my first

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thousand dollars day and what I was like twenty years

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old at the time.

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Speaker 2: It was incredible.

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Speaker 1: So from what I understand, Like, I mean, honestly, this

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applies to all you know, adult content like platforms. But

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usually people like find their niche and like the one

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thing that like really works for them. Yeah, how did

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you find that? Like when you started, did you just

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have no idea like what you were into what to do?

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where You're like, oh, this is my thing?

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Speaker 2: No idea.

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Speaker 3: I remember my first interview I ever did. I think

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I was like nineteen years old, and they actually asked

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me like, oh, what are you into like my personal kings,

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you know, outside of work. I was like, I have

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no idea. I'm nineteen, I don't really know. And then

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as I started camming, I'm a really open minded person

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and I kind of like to do things like for

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the experience, you know, So someone could come to me

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and have a crazy fetish and I'm like, sure, let's

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let's try it.

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Speaker 2: And so I kind of just did whatever.

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Speaker 3: I did the more vanilla stuff where it was just masturbation,

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and then I'd do the fetish stuff and eventually I

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just somehow built a femdom audience. I mean, I kind

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of feel like it started on TikTok. A lot of

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people found me that way. I started talking about my

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like femdom experiences on cam and then they just found

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me on cam and so now, yeah, I'm on a

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pretty I'm on a camp site that's pretty like Vanilla,

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Like it's very porny, but somehow I have a large

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femdom audience on there and vanilla people too, So yeah.

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Speaker 1: How did you find that, Like femdom was your thing though,

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because you have to have a certain kind of attitude.

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Speaker 3: I just thought it was fun, Like I genuinely it

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excited me, like I didn't I didn't know that I

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was into it. And at the time, I was like, oh,

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I'm a sub forever, I'm a sub only and that's it.

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And then I just started exploring it. And I feel

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like I've learned a lot about my sexuality, like through

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the job, and I just.

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Speaker 2: Think it's fun. I love.

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Speaker 3: I think something about means I love giving people like

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the experiences that they want. So when someone comes to

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me and says, this is what I'm into and maybe

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they're feeling shame about it, maybe they're feeling like they

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don't have an outlet for it.

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Speaker 2: I love being that person to give them the experience.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, So, speaking of like kinks and all of that,

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what are some of the more like interesting custom requests

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that you've gotten? Are like interesting and well, we'll get

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into like the obvious elephant in the room at some point,

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but I don't want to touch on that yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well there's a couple that I talked about this

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one the other day, and there's someone who his thing

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is me pumping a pedal of an old truck.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I've heard this before, what y pumping?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I've heard this at some other It might have

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been Candlebox, who like was the queen of custom requests,

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and there was someone who loved her pumping on like

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a like a pedal like an.

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Speaker 3: Old truck, and he wants the foot arched in little shorts.

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So I don't have an old truck. So I just

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use YouTube bodios and I'm like playing like the engine

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Revy and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Like it's not working, and then YouTube audios are really

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really good.

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Speaker 3: I think more people don't utilize it because I have

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another guy who's the thing is that he wants his

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heart to stop, and like he'll call me on sex

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Panther and he'll be like yeah, my, like he'll just

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start talking to me and then he'll start going out

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of it kind of and I'm like, oh, no, are

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we losing him?

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Speaker 2: Are we losing him?

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Speaker 3: And so then we have like the little flatline audio

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on YouTube and the what is it called defibrillator.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, defibulator that like shocks you.

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Speaker 3: I was in Paris with my best friend recently and

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he's one of her clients too, and so we were together,

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we were both nurses, and we were talking back and forth.

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Speaker 2: Like we're losing him, We're losing.

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Speaker 1: Him, and like an episode of Gray's Anatomy.

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Speaker 2: I don't know any about this. I'm like, CNA school

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did not prepare me for this. We're like cool here,

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we like do the shock.

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Speaker 1: We were dying.

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Speaker 3: I'm really sure I recorded the behind the scenes of

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this because it was so funny.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. So and this is all just audio stuff.

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I fits sex Panther, right, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I like phone calls, video call, that's not it is

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so fun. Yeah, it's just ones like that. Sometimes I'll

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do like video on there but this one is a

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phone call, which is great because how would I explain

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that I don't have a defibrillator exactly?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's amazing. Yeah. The pedal pushing, Yeah,

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I've heard.

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Speaker 2: I think I've never Wow.

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Speaker 1: I think for Candle though, it was she to be

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wearing heels. Okay, they may maybe like red heels or something,

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but it was definitely that.

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Speaker 2: What do you think it is?

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling that probably they were in the

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car with somebody that they were attracted to at like

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a very specific time in their life. Usually fetishes are

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born from what I am understand, Usually fetishers are born

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out of like something that happened during like a kind

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of sexual awakening moment. So usually during adolescence. That's why

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a lot of you know, guys are into like older women,

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Like there's a hot teacher or something that like you know,

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gave them boners in class or something like that, like nylons,

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like you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I took a human sexuality class and we learned that,

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and I'm like this makes so much sense.

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Speaker 2: Like all the guys that.

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Speaker 3: Like wearing panties and stuff, I'm like, they probably got

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in trouble for like wearing someone's panties a certain time.

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I think it has something to do

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with that. So my guess would be at experience or

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there was a TV show there was some sexy girl

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was trying to start the car and she could you

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know what I mean, and it just like stuck in

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their head.

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Speaker 4: Was it a scary movie because you know scary movie? Well, yeah,

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and there's always boobs and scary movies. Yeah, the hot

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girl always dies first. Yeah, so who knows. I mean,

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I've always wanted to like ask guys like where their

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fetishes come from.

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Speaker 3: I'm a very like inquisitive person, and it's so hard

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in the middle. Like sometimes I get people's kings that

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are so specific.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, and what made you like this?

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Speaker 4: You have judgment, but like I need to know, but

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keep it sexy so that I.

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Speaker 2: Can't And I'm like it just haunts me at night

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and just getting down on my journal.

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Speaker 1: So you own IGF Studio, which helps other models build

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their careers within their own personal boundaries. What made you

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want to build that? And what does that look like?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So it's an online webcam studio, so it's not the typical.

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You know, they go into a place and then they

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stream from the Are you familiar.

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Speaker 2: With webcam studios?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I am.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so they're less common in the US in Columbia.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I've been to some in Columbia and yeah,

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they're pretty cool. The one that I went to they

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have a dentist office in the studios.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really cool.

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Speaker 1: And wait, like a real one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they like do dental work for the girls and stuff.

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Oh yeah, no, it's amazing. It's a it's a crazy studio.

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I did a vlog of me touring it.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, it's really cool.

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Speaker 3: I'm someone who travels a lot, so I didn't have

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the funds or the lifestyle to have one in person,

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especially in America, it's so expensive. So I started realizing

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that all of these OnlyFans agencies were popping up, and

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I heard horror stories. I mean, we've all heard of

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bad ones, right, we've heard of good ones, We've heard

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of really bad ones. I heard of them taking fifty percent,

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sixty percent. And I, throughout my career, have put out

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so much like free advice, like my YouTube channels dedicated

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to it, on my social media, like I love helping

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other webcam models, and I thought, how can I turn

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this passion project you know of me posting informative content

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into a business that doesn't exploit models, doesn't you know,

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influence people to do things outside of what they want

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to do. And we only take five percent because I'm

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I do I'm not doing it to live off of it.

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I'm doing it because you know, I want to employ

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people and I want to help people in their careers.

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And so that's kind of where it started, is just

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the idea of, Okay, what.

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Speaker 2: Can I give people that I wish I had in

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the beginning.

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Speaker 3: Because I was eighteen years old, which sorry, eight to

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the eighteen year olds, I wouldn't. I would not let

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an eighteen year old join the studio, But you know,

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people who are joining it and they don't know what

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to do, we can give them those tools and support.

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Speaker 2: So and my team is really awesome.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about when you think back to

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when you were eighteen that you wish you'd done differently?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm not really the kind of person that looks

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back on my life and is like I would change anything,

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because it got me exactly where I am. So it's

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hard for me to kind of think of what I

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would do differently, because I think life just goes the

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way it should.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everything happens for a yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's hard for me to look back and

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be like, oh, I wish I didn't do that, because

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you know, are there things that I could have not done? Yeah,

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I could have not done shows for two dollars you

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know or whatever. Yeah, but it got me here, so yeah,

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part of my journey. I'm nice to my past self.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of people have a pretty service level

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idea of what webcam modeling actually involves. What do they

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consistently get wrong.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people think we literally just

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get on cam, we just start getting straight to it, masturbating,

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going crazy, And I would say it's different for everyone,

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but like I spend the majority of my time talking

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and hanging out and yeah, being in my cute little lingerie.

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But I would say, like the sexy parts of it

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are probably like twenty percent and the rest is just

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really hanging out with my audience.

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Speaker 2: So I would say that people think it's easy.

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Speaker 3: You just get on get straight to it, and you

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make thousands of dollars and the grind is crazy.

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Speaker 2: The camgirl grind is crazy.

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Speaker 1: It takes a while to build an audience.

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Speaker 2: It does.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like I mean, cam girls were

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here first, but it's kind of like a twitch streamer,

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you know, like they don't just get on and they

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have yeah, thousands of viewers.

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Speaker 2: You need to build that and show up for your people.

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Speaker 1: And Yeah, if there was someone watching who's thinking about

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getting into cam modeling, approximately how long could they expect

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to need to be like camming consistently for before they

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could like build an audience that would make a difference

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monetarily in their life.

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Speaker 2: I want to say six months.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's really different for everyone, and sites have new

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model tags, so like a new model tag could be

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it could be a week, it could be a month.

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And so sometimes people will make a lot when they

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first start because of that new model tag, and they

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won't be consistent and it will drop off and then

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they'll quit. I would say, yeah, give it six months

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to really see like the fruits of your labor. Even

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a year sometimes, but to me, the money's worth it,

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Like if you can give it that year, or maybe

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you have an extra job, but then you're still streaming

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and you're consistent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: It's really so subjective, and it's like it's really based

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on how much you put into it, Like you get

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what you put into.

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Speaker 1: It, right, And when you see that new model tag,

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you mean that, like most camsites send more traffic to

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00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,440
new models, you featured it a certain way, so you're

479
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,079
going to have a lot more people like visit you.

480
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

481
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,400
Speaker 1: I think I tried like camming once and I had

482
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,759
no intention of doing anything. I can't remember why I

483
00:20:58,799 --> 00:21:01,599
did it. Maybe I could just I think someone told

484
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,720
me that I could just go on there and not

485
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:04,759
take my clothes off.

486
00:21:04,799 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 2: I mean that's true.

487
00:21:05,559 --> 00:21:06,119
Speaker 1: It is true.

488
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,039
Speaker 3: I shows completely where I make great money.

489
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:08,839
Speaker 2: No nudity.

490
00:21:09,039 --> 00:21:10,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know that there are some girls that

491
00:21:10,839 --> 00:21:13,759
don't do nudi at oh yeah, but I definitely wasn't.

492
00:21:13,799 --> 00:21:15,920
But yeah, the amount of traffic that I got on

493
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,759
the first day, I was like, this is a lot.

494
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,799
But then like people were like so disappointed. They're like,

495
00:21:20,839 --> 00:21:22,359
so what do you do? I'm like nothing, and they're

496
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,920
like bye eoms, I know I should have right. How

497
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,400
has the webcam industry changed over the ten years you've

498
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:29,920
been in it.

499
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 3: Well, only fans we kind of like talked about because

500
00:21:33,559 --> 00:21:36,680
really shaken up our industry and a lot I saw

501
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,759
a lot of the top web cam models go to

502
00:21:38,839 --> 00:21:43,119
only fans and just quit camming completely. I think that

503
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,720
people have this idea that camming is dead. Camming is

504
00:21:46,759 --> 00:21:50,759
not dead, like if you're consistent with it. I just

505
00:21:50,799 --> 00:21:55,000
think that less people are starting out camming, so it's

506
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,119
not as widely talked like the industry is still booming,

507
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,400
like it's it's an amaz the industry, but I think

508
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,599
OnlyFans kind of like overtook it and is what's talked

509
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,119
about more in the industry. I would say that I

510
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,720
haven't seen like too much change other than like, yeah,

511
00:22:09,759 --> 00:22:12,720
we're what platforms people are on and stuff. Yeah, because

512
00:22:12,759 --> 00:22:15,960
cam is still great for me. Like, I don't subscribe

513
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,640
to the idea that camming is dead in the slightest.

514
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,359
People still want that personal connection and they always will

515
00:22:22,599 --> 00:22:25,279
And with the rise of everything being fake and AI

516
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,680
and agencies, people are still going to pursue cam models

517
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,079
probably more we're coming back.

518
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,519
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, actually, what's your opinion on the

519
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,000
rise of AI, Like are you afraid of it or

520
00:22:35,039 --> 00:22:38,519
do you feel that the ability to interact with a

521
00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:40,920
real person, like, especially with camming.

522
00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:44,039
Speaker 3: Is my feeling on that is, if someone wants an

523
00:22:44,079 --> 00:22:47,359
AI model, they don't want me. I don't look like AI,

524
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,440
Like I don't interact like AI. So you know, some

525
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,039
people are like, oh AI is taking over the industry,

526
00:22:53,079 --> 00:22:55,480
It's taking our jobs. It's like there's always going to

527
00:22:55,519 --> 00:22:58,440
be those people that want the authentic Lydia love experience

528
00:22:58,519 --> 00:23:00,839
and if they want you know, AI, they're not They're

529
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,000
not gonna seek me out. That's not what I'm offering.

530
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,920
So I think that there's gonna be a pendulum swing

531
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,480
where AI is new and exciting, it's the shiny new toy,

532
00:23:08,519 --> 00:23:09,960
and then people are gonna get sick of it and

533
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,079
they're gonna be like, I just want to talk to

534
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,799
a real girl. I just want to know that I'm

535
00:23:13,839 --> 00:23:16,359
talking to a real girl. So I personally am not

536
00:23:16,559 --> 00:23:19,039
worried and I'm not really into like the fear mongering.

537
00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 2: And I'm like, hey, I'm so bad in.

538
00:23:20,599 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 3: This industry because there's a bunch like every industry, and

539
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,400
I go to and there's new AI companies popping up,

540
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,279
and we'll see how many are still here in five years.

541
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: Did you go to the Avan Awards this year.

542
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,319
Speaker 2: Remember, I think I skipped it. I think I skipped

543
00:23:33,319 --> 00:23:33,640
this year.

544
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 1: So I skipped this year. I was at a b

545
00:23:35,799 --> 00:23:37,839
M but and I did the red carpet for three hours.

546
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,039
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, No, you know what.

547
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: It was three and a half hours that I didn't

548
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,200
go to the awards. No, no, no, But I didn't go

549
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,960
to the awards because after I was so tired. I've

550
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,440
been standing for a three and a half hours talking NonStop.

551
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,839
But I saw a clip from there was I can't

552
00:23:54,839 --> 00:23:56,799
remember the name of the company, and even if I

553
00:23:56,799 --> 00:23:58,799
could or wouldn't say it, I don't want to call

554
00:23:58,839 --> 00:24:00,920
people up. But there was an add for like an

555
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,400
AI like company on and it got booed yeah, like

556
00:24:04,599 --> 00:24:09,279
big time from the entire audience. Yeah, And I was like, whoa,

557
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,319
that's I do think that that was. That was a

558
00:24:12,319 --> 00:24:13,200
really interesting moment.

559
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think people are treating the OT industry, they're

560
00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:17,119
training AI kind of like the gold rush, Like what

561
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,279
can we create and get rich off of real quick?

562
00:24:19,759 --> 00:24:23,880
And yeah, the people have money for sponsorships because they're

563
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,200
dumping it in. So if we feel like we're seeing

564
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,519
more AI companies around, it's just because they have the

565
00:24:28,559 --> 00:24:31,400
money to sponsor things. It's not really because they're actually

566
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,240
like creating something that will like add value to your

567
00:24:34,279 --> 00:24:36,720
career or to the industry, you know, not saying that

568
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,160
there can't be one, but I haven't seen it yet.

569
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: Walk me through the moment that you saw those Daily

570
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,279
Mail photos and recognize Byronnoum. What was that actually? Like?

571
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,799
Speaker 3: Well, it was jarring, Like it was incredibly shocking. So

572
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,160
I was scrolling on X and I see the photos

573
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,079
and initially I like, you know when like your brain

574
00:24:58,079 --> 00:25:00,960
doesn't process something and then you're like, oh shit, that's

575
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,359
what happened to me. I was scrolling and I saw

576
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,559
the tits and I was like hold on. But then

577
00:25:06,599 --> 00:25:10,759
I saw the face and it clicked. And I immediately

578
00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:13,680
texted my best friend because she was familiar with my

579
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,440
big titty client. We had gone on a trip about

580
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,079
a year ago, like April actually know it was exactly

581
00:25:18,079 --> 00:25:20,839
yourgol April of last year, and I had told her

582
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,680
about my big titty client because we did a session.

583
00:25:22,799 --> 00:25:25,839
We were on tallhome and I text HERM like there's

584
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,599
no way, and we were just freaking out about it.

585
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,559
So it was just kind of like a a weird

586
00:25:32,599 --> 00:25:33,799
double take moment.

587
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, what was your initial reaction because you've been

588
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,920
clear that you weren't the one who broke the story,

589
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,000
and you weren't. It was the day and mail, and

590
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,880
you know, I know that you don't make a habit

591
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:46,200
of exposing clients. Yeah, so what made you? Yeah right,

592
00:25:46,519 --> 00:25:49,599
I mean what made you decide to like speak out?

593
00:25:49,839 --> 00:25:52,079
Speaker 3: Well, I had no idea who he was, like, because

594
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,519
I recognize this face, of course, But how am I

595
00:25:54,599 --> 00:25:56,559
supposed to know that that was her husband?

596
00:25:56,559 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, especially like in a

597
00:25:58,960 --> 00:25:59,880
webcam setting.

598
00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: And also like I don't think that people like he

599
00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:04,440
was never really featured much.

600
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,279
Speaker 3: No, yeah, yeah, And I mean I keep up with politics,

601
00:26:07,319 --> 00:26:11,640
but not enough to know what like people's husbands looked like. Well, okay,

602
00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:13,720
the first thing is it was kind of like an

603
00:26:13,759 --> 00:26:17,599
easy decision for me because that information was literally already

604
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,400
out there, like his pictures were already out there. I

605
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,240
didn't think that it was honestly even going to be

606
00:26:22,279 --> 00:26:24,160
that shocking to people for me to say, oh my god,

607
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,640
he was one of my clients, because he was and

608
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,559
he I specialized in the sssification niche, So I just

609
00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:32,640
thought my friends would be like oh that's crazy.

610
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

611
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,559
Speaker 3: I just felt like immediately there was hypocrisy there. I

612
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,880
knew that his wife was very anti trans, so when

613
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,079
I saw that, and I know that being trans is

614
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,720
not the same as being a cross dresser, but I

615
00:26:44,839 --> 00:26:47,880
just felt like their their politics were you know, I

616
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,720
stand against it, And I thought, is it really that

617
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,160
big of a deal if it's already out there?

618
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: Right?

619
00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:56,839
Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like my motivation it wasn't extremely like

620
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,240
thought through right away. I just knew I his wife's politics,

621
00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:04,039
it's already out there. Yes, he was one of my clients.

622
00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:07,200
It wasn't as like calculated really, if anything, I didn't

623
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,559
have time to really calculate because I immediately commented like,

624
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,319
holy shit, he's one of my clients.

625
00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:14,799
Speaker 1: So yeah, and then what was like, what happened afterwards?

626
00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:16,400
You started getting contacted by news out.

627
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 3: So you're like, I honestly, and you're in this industry,

628
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,000
you know, we get kind of desensitized to things.

629
00:27:23,079 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I.

630
00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:25,799
Speaker 3: Didn't think it was that crazy. I really thought, like

631
00:27:25,839 --> 00:27:27,640
my best friend we were laughing about it. We're like,

632
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,960
oh my god, you're big titty guys, you know, married

633
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:30,440
to Christine.

634
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: Now that's crazy.

635
00:27:31,599 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 3: I thought maybe my followers would be like, this is insane, Like.

636
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,519
Speaker 1: You didn't think it was going to get picked up

637
00:27:36,519 --> 00:27:37,599
by the news the way?

638
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,319
Speaker 3: Oh no, And if I you know, I can be

639
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,480
an anxious person sometimes, and this did cause me some anxiety.

640
00:27:43,599 --> 00:27:47,559
I don't regret speaking out at all, but I didn't

641
00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:49,720
think that far. Like I didn't think that it would

642
00:27:49,759 --> 00:27:53,119
really And so whenever the Times from London reached out

643
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,319
to me, I had a conversation with them literally through

644
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,359
like Instagram, dms, like audios, and I didn't even really

645
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,480
think that they would a story on it. I didn't

646
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,160
tell them that they couldn't, but I didn't think that

647
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,279
it was that notable. Really, I didn't think my experience

648
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,559
was so crazy. I dressed men up like women all

649
00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:11,599
the time. And then someone from I believe it was

650
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,519
Daily Beast but I can't remember, was really really on it.

651
00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:17,160
And I was actually kind of like trying to avoid

652
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,519
talking to him because I just I didn't think it through,

653
00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:21,519
you know, And he called me on X and I

654
00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:23,559
just said fucking and I answered and we talked about it,

655
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,720
and then I ignored literally everyone else, like I did

656
00:28:28,759 --> 00:28:31,000
an interview the other day, and then this is my

657
00:28:31,079 --> 00:28:33,880
second interview. I haven't talked to anyone else. I was

658
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,880
very choosy on like who I spoke to about it,

659
00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:38,759
and there were a ton of opportunities, but I didn't

660
00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:42,400
really view this as like a way to build my career. Yeah,

661
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,599
it just kind of happened and I said fuck it

662
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:45,240
and followed it.

663
00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: So Yeah, And honestly, my guess is that, you know,

664
00:28:49,319 --> 00:28:51,519
at least this would be my fear of being interviewed

665
00:28:51,559 --> 00:28:56,359
by people outside of the sex work industry. You're, you know,

666
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,960
stand the possibility of getting vilified, getting blamed simply because

667
00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:02,200
I mean we are already so stigmatized for what we

668
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,880
do anyways. Yeah, and so my guess is like you

669
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,160
were just concerned about getting stuck in like a fucking

670
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,480
Peers Morgan interview where you would just get attacked, like

671
00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:15,720
your character it would be attacked.

672
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,559
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think for me, I was worried about that.

673
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like I can kind of hold my

674
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,559
own like people who take time to talk to me,

675
00:29:21,599 --> 00:29:24,200
I think they can kind of see my heart. I

676
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,599
think I was just more like, I know, this sounds

677
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,319
silly to people, because a lot of people take this

678
00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:32,480
as an opportunity to blow up and like do everything.

679
00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:35,839
Speaker 2: I just didn't really feel the need to do that.

680
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:36,920
I don't know.

681
00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:39,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was kind of just more simple where I

682
00:29:39,599 --> 00:29:41,200
don't want to take every opportunity. If I take all

683
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,480
these opportunities, I feel like I just wouldn't get the

684
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,920
ones that were meant for me. Like I feel like

685
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,920
talking to you this is a great platform, and the

686
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,799
interview I did the other day, that's a great platform.

687
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,720
But if I would have taken all the other random

688
00:29:50,759 --> 00:29:53,039
ones and built my name that way, that just doesn't really.

689
00:29:53,079 --> 00:29:55,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sound great. And then there's been a lot

690
00:29:55,319 --> 00:29:58,400
of other people who have come out afterwards, a lot,

691
00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:00,839
a lot. Yeah, I mean he had a lot of

692
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:01,400
their experience.

693
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,319
Speaker 2: They're crazier than mine.

694
00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:09,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about the actual like like kink bimbification,

695
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,519
because so many people had never heard of it. You know.

696
00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:14,799
I remember my husband being like my husband's like were

697
00:30:14,839 --> 00:30:18,920
super into politics, and he was like, I've never heard

698
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,920
of bimboification before. I'm like, babe, everyone you know thought

699
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,079
about him bo, But yeah, can you explain to the audience,

700
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,039
like what that specific kink is?

701
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I mean in terms of like, clearly I'm

702
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,279
not a bembo that's not my fetish. But if it's

703
00:30:36,279 --> 00:30:37,839
a woman, they just kind of want to be like

704
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,440
their ideal feminine like what they view as beautiful and women,

705
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,960
which is like very exaggerated features of big boobs, big ass,

706
00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:50,079
big tits. Now the guy's into it. He wants that.

707
00:30:50,079 --> 00:30:53,440
That's what he wants to be, that's he idolizes that.

708
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: So he wants to be like a he wants to

709
00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:59,960
be a bembo, slapt bimbo. But so you don't believe

710
00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:03,160
that Byron necessarily wanted to be like a girl.

711
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,279
Speaker 3: Okay, So I personally in my experiences with him, which

712
00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:09,279
were not as intense as like the people that have

713
00:31:09,359 --> 00:31:12,640
a hundred screenshots of conversations.

714
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,799
Speaker 1: With him, were recorded like the audio yeah, stuff like that,

715
00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:15,519
which is crazy.

716
00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:18,559
Speaker 3: You know, I didn't get the impression that he fully

717
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,319
I thought that it was just a normal, everyday, like

718
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,160
king experience. Like did he talk about like the typical

719
00:31:24,279 --> 00:31:26,680
slut things like you know, I want to be a girl,

720
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,160
I want to be a bembo, I want to.

721
00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: Tuck cock like all the things.

722
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's like kind of I've met so many

723
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,359
straight men that play like that, or you know, men

724
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,680
that identify as men that play like that, and so

725
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,000
I didn't think that he wanted to be But now

726
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,680
I've seen someone come out and say that he actually

727
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,759
said that he wanted to be a woman. So in

728
00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:46,599
my experience, I kind of just took it as a

729
00:31:46,599 --> 00:31:49,839
man playing and he didn't like fully dress up like

730
00:31:50,079 --> 00:31:50,519
some people.

731
00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:53,079
Speaker 2: They want the wig, they want the makeup. Everything. With me,

732
00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:56,720
sometimes you would do lip gloss, but it was really

733
00:31:56,759 --> 00:31:58,680
like the boobs. The outfit.

734
00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't really like it was yoga pants was like yoga,

735
00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:02,680
but also.

736
00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 3: Like spandex type of short like tight shorts, things like that.

737
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,759
It wasn't the full look. So I didn't really get

738
00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:10,680
the impression like, oh, this is a transitioning person, you know.

739
00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

740
00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:15,359
Speaker 1: And then so your role in this is he wants

741
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,559
to be like dominated.

742
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,119
Speaker 3: I kind of took it as he wanted like slut encouragement. Okay,

743
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,480
so is that a form of domination, Yeah, But I

744
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,759
think it was more of he wanted to be hyped

745
00:32:26,839 --> 00:32:30,000
up and encouraged to be sluttier, to be a bembo,

746
00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:32,160
because like, like I said, I'm not a membo. He's

747
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,440
not coming to me to worship my bimbo body. He

748
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,079
wanted me to encourage him to be a bembo, and

749
00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:41,519
I'm I've built a niche for for that versissification, which

750
00:32:41,559 --> 00:32:43,640
is I guess a bit different but also kind of

751
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:44,559
in the same realm you.

752
00:32:44,599 --> 00:32:47,759
Speaker 1: Okay, So with him, like specifically, was it more like,

753
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,160
you know, encouraging him to have these big bimbo like.

754
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,319
Speaker 3: Oh, your tits look so good, Like turn around and

755
00:32:54,359 --> 00:32:56,680
spank yourself for me, like put on your leggings. He

756
00:32:56,799 --> 00:32:58,960
liked to be told, like to put on his leggings.

757
00:32:59,000 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: Oh it looks so tight.

758
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,119
Speaker 3: Oh you you know, want to do this act with

759
00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:04,480
this person, you know, things like that.

760
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,119
Speaker 1: Right, So less of like you dumbly, I wasn't like

761
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:13,319
it wasn't like a degrading kind of thing maybe to him,

762
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,799
but you know what I mean, like that kind of explicity,

763
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,720
like you know, like.

764
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: That's kind of not my femdom approach.

765
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 3: Really, Like I'm just saying, I'm like girl next door,

766
00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:23,960
like sometimes I'll be mean, but it's more of.

767
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, just making people be their slutty.

768
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: Selves, helping to encourage their inner slut to come up.

769
00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:30,279
Speaker 3: I encourage and that's what I feel like. People ask me, like,

770
00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:30,960
did you dominate him?

771
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know. I kind of feel like

772
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,720
I slut encouraged slut influencer.

773
00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: Now the fact that he did you see his face?

774
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,200
Like right, right, but did you see it like the

775
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,039
first time that you cammed with him or did it

776
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:45,839
take him a while to decide to show his face?

777
00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:47,279
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the thing.

778
00:33:47,319 --> 00:33:49,279
Speaker 3: Whenever I do so many of these shows, I didn't

779
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:51,680
know he was a notable person, so I can't really remember,

780
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,279
like specifically, like did I see his face, like you know,

781
00:33:54,319 --> 00:33:57,440
logistics like that. I know that I saw his face times,

782
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:58,839
but there were also a lot of times where he

783
00:33:58,839 --> 00:34:02,799
would show boobs and the body only, so I can't

784
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:05,359
remember the first time. There's so many shows I do,

785
00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:06,079
so it's hard.

786
00:34:06,279 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, obviously him showing his face was a great risk,

787
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:13,960
which clearly came back and him in the ass, because

788
00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:16,559
like it's one thing for there to be a rumor,

789
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,760
but to have like evidence, and he didn't deny it.

790
00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:20,280
You're yeah, I don't.

791
00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: Think the media reached out to him and he said

792
00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:22,519
that was me.

793
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: He said, didn't he say i'll be I'll talk about

794
00:34:25,519 --> 00:34:27,519
it when I'm ready or something like that. Yeah, I

795
00:34:27,519 --> 00:34:29,440
mean you gotta give him credit for that.

796
00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: Oh no, for sure. It's like, what are you gonna do, dude?

797
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,599
You're out there, your tits are out there. Yeah.

798
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like Trump. It's like I didn't start

799
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:37,199
a wark.

800
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,079
Speaker 2: It's like throws some rockets hand like.

801
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:43,119
Speaker 1: And a lot of people have questioned, like, why did

802
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:47,079
he take the risk of showing his face? But you

803
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:48,760
think that that was maybe part of the kink.

804
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: I think it was part of the king.

805
00:34:50,119 --> 00:34:52,159
Speaker 3: Now there's been like rumors about, oh, did he want

806
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,480
to be black Milt and blah blah blah. I personally

807
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,960
didn't take it as he wanted to be black Milt.

808
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,880
I just took it as a lot of these guys

809
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,480
do want the risk of showing their face that they

810
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,840
could be exposed. And most of them don't actually want

811
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,840
to be exposed, but when they're in that mindset, the

812
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,679
risk it scares them and it turns them on.

813
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 2: So I could have recognized him. I didn't.

814
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 3: I don't keep up with people's lives, you know that deeply.

815
00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:17,360
But what if I did recognize him and say, oh

816
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,039
my god, this Christiname's husband and I took pictures. I

817
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:23,039
could have totally done that so I think he kind

818
00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:25,679
of did like the risk of it all. And I

819
00:35:25,679 --> 00:35:28,519
mean he had to have known he's putting his name

820
00:35:28,639 --> 00:35:32,280
his face. Like I haven't read everyone's experiences, but like

821
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,679
I've seen enough screenshots to know, like he was out

822
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:35,599
there with everyone.

823
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: You told the Daily Beasts that there's no way christin

824
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,159
Noome didn't know about her husband's behavior, and what makes

825
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:40,639
you believe that?

826
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 3: Now, I will say that's probably a drastic statement on

827
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,760
my end, like there's no way, so allegedly my opinion,

828
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:50,199
you know, I've never been married to someone for thirty

829
00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:53,599
two years or something. I feel like if my man,

830
00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:55,880
if I had, if I was in a relationship and

831
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,599
they wore my leggings or my clothes, I think I

832
00:35:58,599 --> 00:35:58,960
would know.

833
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,679
Speaker 4: Would you notice your loose or dirty idea of my

834
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,079
husband trying to fit into my fucking leggings.

835
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm like, I think I would know. But also,

836
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,559
I mean, I don't know what that what kind of

837
00:36:11,639 --> 00:36:13,920
marriage they have. I don't know the intricacies of that,

838
00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:15,599
but I would hope that if I was married to

839
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:17,559
someone for that long, I would know their most vulnerable

840
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:19,039
parts and maybe at some point they would come to

841
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:20,880
me and say hey, I have this interest.

842
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,679
Speaker 2: Hey, I you know, you know what I mean?

843
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you would have to have a pretty open

844
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,440
relationship because a lot of people can't talk about their

845
00:36:29,519 --> 00:36:32,760
kinks with their significant other because they're too free, especially

846
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,480
if your significant other is literally like I know platforms

847
00:36:36,519 --> 00:36:39,880
on like anti LGBT, and I like, right, oh.

848
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.

849
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 3: It's like I might be viewing this from a privileged

850
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,480
place because I feel like, if I was in a relationship,

851
00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:47,920
I want to know the entirety of my person and

852
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,440
love and except that maybe that's not where they were.

853
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: But I don't like thirty years.

854
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: Like over thirty years, it feels like there was some

855
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,159
signs that maybe she chose to ignore.

856
00:36:57,159 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 3: There's no way that you like, do you know, Like

857
00:36:59,519 --> 00:37:02,320
where's all a lot of balloons going? Where are balloons

858
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:02,800
in the trash?

859
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: Like what were you doing?

860
00:37:03,519 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 3: Like you had a party while I was gone, Like

861
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:06,679
I feel like how do you?

862
00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: How do you not know?

863
00:37:08,599 --> 00:37:11,039
Speaker 3: And then the thing was like her cheating publicly, like

864
00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:14,760
you know, she had a cheating scandal with Corey Lwandowski

865
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,199
I think that was his name, and he was also

866
00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:19,360
in politics, and she was grilled on that and I

867
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,760
mean he sat behind her during that, And so I

868
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,639
do have my theories on like maybe they just had

869
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,760
because a lot of these guys that are into bembification cecification,

870
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,880
they're also into cooking and their wife fucking other people.

871
00:37:33,039 --> 00:37:36,400
Maybe that's what they just did behind closed doors, and

872
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,039
then public.

873
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: They were they have to say they were major hypocrites.

874
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,559
Speaker 3: But I also think that a lot of guys that

875
00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:47,679
are into bemification and also into cooking, what's the closest

876
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,920
that they can get to fucking another man without actually

877
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,320
fucking other man their wife fucking another man and telling

878
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:54,960
them about it.

879
00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 2: So that's just my theory.

880
00:37:57,079 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that's absolutely true. Posted about asking DHS

881
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,960
not to take you out, which is funny, But did

882
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,880
you actually like have any real concern about your safety.

883
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 3: I feel like and like my friends are more concerned

884
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,760
than I am. I have a very like to life.

885
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,079
I'm just kind of like, if that's my journey, that's

886
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:16,480
my journey, Like, please don't.

887
00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:19,519
Speaker 2: I love living, I love being alive. My dogs need me,

888
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,840
you know, like, I please don't do it.

889
00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:26,639
Speaker 3: I feel like they probably have bigger problems to worry about.

890
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: Do I think that? Yeah?

891
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:29,559
Speaker 3: I don't know.

892
00:38:29,559 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 2: Do you think that they're gonna leave me alone forever?

893
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,199
I don't know. I don't know. I kind of did it,

894
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,679
you know, I didn't think it through. I don't know.

895
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: Do you have you had any like big blowback from

896
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,159
like no.

897
00:38:41,159 --> 00:38:44,199
Speaker 3: Because I feel, well, maybe I will once like the

898
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,039
interview I did the other day is dropped like maybe

899
00:38:46,039 --> 00:38:46,320
this one.

900
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: Who knows. But I think a lot of people like.

901
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: Oh, you'll have people on YouTube like I mean, look,

902
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:56,000
you could be talking about like your wonderful summer day

903
00:38:56,039 --> 00:38:59,800
and you just kind of you that you do like that,

904
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,000
so that's YouTube for you.

905
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 3: But like I mean, I have an uncle who's like

906
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,320
super right wing, and he called me he was dying laughing.

907
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,039
He's like, that's my fucking niece, like laughing.

908
00:39:10,119 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

909
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 3: We'll see if I get if I get hate from people,

910
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,440
I think that anyone can see the hypocrisy in it, right,

911
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,239
Like for me, I think I've made it clear.

912
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 2: If people want to believe something, believe it.

913
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 3: I like hearing other people's point of view is because

914
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,679
if I don't, then how do I know that I

915
00:39:25,679 --> 00:39:26,719
believe what I believe? Right?

916
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: I just don't like hypocrites.

917
00:39:29,159 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: So if you have a fully formed idea that is

918
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,480
completely opposite of mine, I'll hear you out. But why

919
00:39:34,519 --> 00:39:36,880
are you hypocrite? Why are you anti trans? Anti gay?

920
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,559
Speaker 2: But then you want to talk about all this with me?

921
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,679
Speaker 1: Did you notice a subscriber number boost after this?

922
00:39:42,159 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 2: I did, But.

923
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 3: A publication or I don't even know what site it

924
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,920
was said that I had like an amazing surge and

925
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,119
it was because I was getting like harassed by other

926
00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:55,840
sex workers on X like just they were being so mean,

927
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,800
saying like the most like foul things about me for

928
00:39:59,079 --> 00:40:02,320
talking about this public and so I or I quoted

929
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,800
something and I was like, y'all are about to be

930
00:40:04,199 --> 00:40:06,840
really mad at all the amazing subscribers I've had because

931
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,760
people were saying that my career is over.

932
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: No one's ever.

933
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 3: Gonna, you know, spend money on me again. So yeah,

934
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,920
I had a little income boost. It was cool, but

935
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,480
it wasn't as like insane as people think.

936
00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: Are you worried about that at all?

937
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:23,519
Speaker 3: No? I figures, like, like I think the majority of people,

938
00:40:24,039 --> 00:40:27,000
I actually haven't had anyone come to me and say

939
00:40:27,079 --> 00:40:28,800
I'm not playing with you anymore.

940
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,599
Speaker 2: I'm unsubscribing I'm doing this because you did that.

941
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 3: People have been giving me a lot of praise and

942
00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:37,519
like people that that.

943
00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 2: Come to me, like for femnom.

944
00:40:39,039 --> 00:40:41,679
Speaker 3: I've even had new subscribers be like I want which

945
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,960
I didn't even expose it, but they come to be

946
00:40:44,039 --> 00:40:46,280
like I want to be exposed, just like Gnome and

947
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,920
like I like, oh my gosh, I love what you did.

948
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I'm like, oh god, I've been getting a lot of

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new subscribers that are really excited.

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Speaker 1: That want to be that want like that exposure.

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Speaker 2: Exposure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he got the ultimate exposures. So they're like looking

953
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at it like this is fucking amazing.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if I cause that is all

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I mean, we just talked about that as a whole fetish,

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like being exposed for like you know, spending money on

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a cam girl rather than like buying your wife flowers

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or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's wild.

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Speaker 3: If for some reason this situation made all of my

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people leave me, I'd be bummed.

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Speaker 2: I'd probably just go like open a thrift shop or

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something like.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, probably just like go, yeah, I don't

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see that happening.

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Speaker 2: It's not happening.

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Speaker 1: But because I mean, you said and you seem to me.

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And look, you've been doing this for a long time, right,

969
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So if you were someone who's in the habit of

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like exposing all of your clients, like you would, we

971
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would know by now there's way cooler people, yeah, like athletes, rappers, actually,

972
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like there's way cooler people.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I wouldn't. I wouldn't expose it, Like

974
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why why would I? I think that people deserve their privacy,

975
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and I think that people supporting online sex worchs is cool.

976
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I just think this specific situation, it's like, how are

977
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you so like, you know, typical conservative family values, but

978
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then behind closed doors you're doing this, and you know,

979
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I just think what's good for them should be good forever,

980
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you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's like, and this is such a

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We've seen this happen so many times, right, Like the

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people that are the loudest voice against gay people, sex workers,

984
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whatever are the ones that are like the most deeply

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entrenched in it, like personally, and they're just being driven

986
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by like a sense of shame and they're overcompensating for

987
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it by like speaking against it, and it's just like it.

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Speaker 2: Makes them feel like I don't really know what it is.

989
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Speaker 3: Honestly, it makes them feel like they're fighting against it,

990
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but they're still consuming it. That's what I don't really understand.

991
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It's like, if you feel like you have a problem

992
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with porn, like go get.

993
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Speaker 2: Help for it.

994
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,039
Speaker 3: But why like bash the entire industry and you know

995
00:42:56,039 --> 00:42:58,639
what I mean, and like really like speak hate towards it.

996
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Speaker 2: We get enough hate.

997
00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's just because there's so much stigma

998
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,920
and so much shamer on sex. I mean, people are

999
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raised with like you know, it's hard for me to

1000
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understand because I was raised by pornographers.

1001
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Speaker 2: Yeah, my family's really chill to my mom's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I had a totally different experience. But a

1003
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lot of people are raised like in an environment where

1004
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like shame about sex and their bodies and desires is

1005
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like deeply entrenched in their psyche. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I try to give those people grace.

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Speaker 3: Really, I think a lot of times people are just

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like fuck you if you you know, I try to understand, like,

1009
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if you were raised that certain.

1010
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Speaker 2: Way, maybe that's why you're acting out.

1011
00:43:35,519 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 3: I just I think it's really important to have empathy,

1012
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you know, Like I was raised completely different from a

1013
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lot of people, and I don't agree with a lot

1014
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of people, but I have baseline empathy for them, Like,

1015
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and what other industry is so hated by their own consumers?

1016
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Speaker 1: Like what, that's crazy? It's just like you, like you

1017
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,840
follow girls just so you can tell them how much

1018
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you despise what they do.

1019
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Speaker 3: I feel like maybe it's they hate themselves for so

1020
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then they're like, how can I take this hate and

1021
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,960
put it somewhere that's not at myself? Oh the girl,

1022
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:09,559
It's like, how are you jerking off with one hand

1023
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and typing hate comments with the other, Like chill, dude.

1024
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Speaker 1: I mean some people ambidextrous.

1025
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got it handled literally. All right.

1026
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Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for coming on and talking

1027
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,400
about all of that. Really appreciated. I know that it's

1028
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a topic that you know, you were careful about who

1029
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,960
you spoke with, and so like, I feel very privileged

1030
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and honor that you came to talk to us about it.

1031
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Speaker 3: I love this podcast. I've been a fan since the beginning,

1032
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,079
So I love this podcast. Career goal achieved. Actually this

1033
00:44:39,159 --> 00:44:42,000
is on one of my career goal lists, so just saying.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's amazing. So I just want to ask you

1035
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a couple questions to kind of like wrap things up.

1036
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Where do you see the webcam and creator's side of

1037
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,840
the industry heading? Do you think it's sustainable? Do you

1038
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,239
think it's oversaturated or something in between.

1039
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Speaker 3: I don't believe in oversaturation. People love saying that, especially

1040
00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:03,440
about the industry. I think everyone is so uniquely different.

1041
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,519
We all have different careers. So I think webcamming will

1042
00:45:06,559 --> 00:45:10,599
always be here. Webcamming has I'm twenty eight. Webcamming has

1043
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existed before. I think the first site was maybe in

1044
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ninety six ninety seven.

1045
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Speaker 2: It's going to be around.

1046
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Speaker 3: People are craving that, like live connection online, and I

1047
00:45:21,679 --> 00:45:24,679
think that camming is coming back. Like you said, it's

1048
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,079
kind of a pendulum swing of there's all this fakeness

1049
00:45:27,159 --> 00:45:28,760
AI all of that, and people are going to come

1050
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,239
back to camming and really start discovering it.

1051
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: So what campsite? Can people find you.

1052
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 3: On cam Soda? Yeah, on cam Soda and I love

1053
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,519
the site. I think it's really fun and that's like

1054
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my homesite. I've tried so many different sites since my homesite.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you again for coming on, thank you for

1056
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,599
having me. And can you tell everybody where else they

1057
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can find you online?

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Speaker 3: You can find me on Instagram at your Internet GF.

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You can find me on YouTube just starts Lyda Love

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and on x Lydia Love xxx.

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Speaker 2: I also have an OnlyFans Lydia Love.

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Speaker 1: And you guys can find me on Instagram and on

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x at Holly Randall and of course find me on

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00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:06,320
OnlyFans at Holly Randall. And if you want to watch

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these interviews live streamed live, join my Patreon patreon dot

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and you get access to cool bonus content like this

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special Q and A that we're going to do after

1069
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this that will be available for only my Patreon members.

1070
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So thank you guys so much for tuning in. Thank

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you again to strip Chat for sponsoring this podcast. Make

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sure you guys go check them out on the Internet

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and on YouTube and on Instagram at scworld dot Official.

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Have a great one, guys, I'll see you next week.