WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.160 --> 00:00:03.200 What's up, good people. 2 00:00:07.320 --> 00:00:10.480 Touchdowns and Tangents here, TD is underscore tangents on Twitter 3 00:00:10.480 --> 00:00:14.800 and Instagram, Touchdowns and Tangents dot Com. Sorry, I'm once 4 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:18.800 again without our regular drops. I swear I'm gonna get 5 00:00:18.800 --> 00:00:22.359 them next week. I just gotta, like b Dangle, putting 6 00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:26.000 my house back together post Christmas and find where the 7 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:30.399 flask striver is. But yeah, once I do that, have 8 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:35.640 everything back to normal. Anyways, we're once again not live 9 00:00:35.719 --> 00:00:39.560 because Speaker hates us. But whatever, we're day late. But 10 00:00:40.119 --> 00:00:42.159 there hasn't really been any football this week, so it's 11 00:00:42.200 --> 00:00:45.759 not like you missed much. And considering there were two 12 00:00:45.759 --> 00:00:49.600 major coaching hires today, we actually pretty much waited for 13 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:55.479 the perfect time. As always, I'm joined by everyone's favorite 14 00:00:55.799 --> 00:01:02.439 NFL ticket operator, the quietest loud guy, uh, your draft analysis, 15 00:01:03.119 --> 00:01:08.680 your draft analysts, favorite draft analyst, UH, the man with 16 00:01:08.799 --> 00:01:12.040 no shortage of names. 17 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:17.480 Kenny Saint James Barry. But not all y'all can call 18 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:17.879 me Kenned. 19 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:20.959 There's nothing, there's nothing Kenny likes more than an impromptu 20 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:22.640 extended intro for no reason. 21 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:25.239 Yeah, I don't know if you feel good. I appreciate that, 22 00:01:25.400 --> 00:01:28.159 but yeah, not all y'all can call me. I'm gonna 23 00:01:28.159 --> 00:01:31.519 assume you're a first name, and you've never goned me 24 00:01:31.599 --> 00:01:37.040 by my first name. That's crazy, that's disrespectful almost, Isn't 25 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:40.959 that funny how that flipped? Weird? Kids? Everybody like you 26 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:43.120 got called a nickname. You're like, I don't like that, 27 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:45.599 and then you realize I actually liked that nickname. And 28 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:49.879 now it's like everybody gets called everything but their name. Yeah, 29 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:53.040 pretty much identify as everything but Kenned. I'm just kidding. 30 00:01:54.040 --> 00:01:56.319 I wouldn't want to be anybody for me, but be 31 00:01:56.480 --> 00:01:59.040 me that she will be lame. All right, Well, rest 32 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:05.079 in peace, good rest in peace to a legend. Those 33 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:09.960 are those of you, those of you who remember, if 34 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:20.400 you do remember that two step infamous DJ. I don't 35 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:22.319 know why the hell I'm figuring his name right now, 36 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:27.120 isn't it dj unk or dj unk? Yes? DJ rest 37 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:31.400 in peace? He was forty three, he passed, he died today, 38 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:37.759 infamous and that was a local song, Like he had 39 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:43.439 two local songs that went global and he's gone now 40 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:49.080 twenty twenty five is not playing. They're not really caring 41 00:02:49.199 --> 00:02:54.280 what happens. People are just going. But yeah, that song 42 00:02:54.400 --> 00:02:59.280 is like the soundtrack to my my young adult adolescent life. 43 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:02.759 Had to walk it out of my room earlier too. 44 00:03:03.039 --> 00:03:08.879 It was. It's kind of sad, but yeah, recipees to 45 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:15.560 a legend from Atlanta, A real one we don't talk 46 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:19.039 enough about. They talk about the one hit Wonders, But 47 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:22.439 like Bro, they kept the streets hot, they kept the 48 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:28.439 club like, they kept people in the clubs. Like for 49 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:34.719 all the shit that gen zers give millennials, you sure 50 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:37.280 do love our music. You sure to get turned up 51 00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:41.199 to our music. You sure to make bad life choices 52 00:03:41.240 --> 00:03:43.759 and give us bastard siblings to that same music that 53 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:48.199 you swear that. Uh you're like, this is terrible, but 54 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:52.159 you danced to it. You shook ass to it. You 55 00:03:52.240 --> 00:03:55.879 gave us stepsisters and step brothers to that same music. Yes, 56 00:03:55.919 --> 00:03:59.919 I'm looking at you, the entire Confessions album. But anyway, Yeah, 57 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:03.639 just have to say that rest in peace. We lost 58 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:05.400 a couple of people this year, all right. 59 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:09.240 Moving on to the coaching hires, A bunch that happened already. Uh, 60 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:12.840 the latest one just dropped a couple hours ago. The 61 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:16.399 Cowboys hire their offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer as head coach. 62 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:16.839 Six. 63 00:04:18.120 --> 00:04:21.319 I really have no idea where this came from I 64 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:25.720 don't understand how you fire Mike McCarthy, a super Bowl 65 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:29.279 winning coach, only to hire one of his minions, an 66 00:04:29.319 --> 00:04:33.279 offensive coordinator who have been fired kind of disastrously at 67 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:35.600 his last two places with the Jets and the Seahawks. 68 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:39.800 So yeah, I don't really know what the Cowboys are doing. 69 00:04:39.959 --> 00:04:42.720 Hope Jerry Jones is not losing his mind, it doesn't 70 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:45.279 have dementia and doesn't end up getting the Wendy Williams 71 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:47.680 slash say treatment. 72 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:49.720 That you're gonna get us thrown into a black site. 73 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:53.439 But yeah, I'm going to Texas tomorrow. I need you 74 00:04:53.519 --> 00:04:59.240 to not like just say that, but yeah, thoughts on 75 00:04:59.279 --> 00:05:03.480 the shot and hummer hi, I mean, good for him? 76 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:05.839 What are you gonna do? Say? No, it's not like 77 00:05:05.879 --> 00:05:09.600 he was ever gonna get another job anywhere else. Like literally, 78 00:05:09.959 --> 00:05:17.319 this is like unless he's another Jason Witton, I mean Jason, Uh, 79 00:05:17.879 --> 00:05:22.759 We'll still Jason. Why I'm not winning Garrett? Jason Garrett 80 00:05:22.959 --> 00:05:25.560 feels like another Jason Garrett situation where really he's just 81 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:29.279 a head coach and title and that's it because it's 82 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:35.279 still Jerry show. I don't know who is defensive coordinator 83 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:38.240 is gonna be. But you gotta you got a team 84 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:43.439 that's built pretty good. They got guiding in the first round. 85 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:46.120 They've rebuilt that offensive line. You don't even talk about 86 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:50.639 Tyrone Smith anymore. Like across the board. They've rebuilt that 87 00:05:50.680 --> 00:05:54.079 offensive line. They've rebuilt the defensive line. They just have 88 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:58.480 to pay Micah. Their corners have to get healthy, you know, 89 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:03.399 Darran Bland, Trayvon Diggs. They might sign more in the offseason, 90 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:10.319 TCU safety. You know. I just think Jerry doesn't want 91 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:12.560 to blow this up. I mean, look how old he is, 92 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:17.319 Like you signed Dak, You're in this till the wheels 93 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:22.519 fall off. So I would say, yes, this is a 94 00:06:22.560 --> 00:06:26.040 weird hire. I mean, but also you want to you 95 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:27.639 don't want a big name. You just want a guy 96 00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:28.800 who's gonna get the job done. 97 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:35.720 I wonder what he said in the meeting of what 98 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:38.279 he would do different than McCarthy. 99 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:42.600 To really kind of swade Jones. He probably was told him. 100 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:47.879 Like like, he probably told him he's gonna just listen 101 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:48.360 to him more. 102 00:06:48.399 --> 00:06:54.680 Honestly. He made Rico a star player this year. I mean, 103 00:06:54.800 --> 00:06:57.240 but the running back death was the steps back. The 104 00:06:57.360 --> 00:07:00.519 running back room looked like trash going into the season, 105 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:05.360 the Henrico became a star player for the Cowboys offense 106 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:10.839 so much so they cut Zeke so that yeah, yeah, 107 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:13.199 but I'm saying, like the all the OC kept that 108 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:18.920 offense going with Cooper Rush and Dack out, So it's like, hey, 109 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:21.279 I'm the one thing holding I'm the one thing holding 110 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:25.079 the offense together. I guess let me have the full reigns. 111 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:27.800 We can be more aggressive. We can do things to 112 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:32.040 actually help this defense. You know, they Cowboys don't need 113 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:35.439 a quarterback. They could just take genty or they could 114 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:38.959 just take you know, Eye Blue Carder. They could literally 115 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:41.319 just load. They could strengthen their defense and then just 116 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:43.920 build the rest of the team through the draft. And 117 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:46.560 I think you probably if you're a guy like that 118 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:49.040 like Shottenheimer, like, look, who my dad is. I made 119 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:52.600 a name for myself outside of my father. The league 120 00:07:52.759 --> 00:07:56.000 kind of owed the shot and Hunter family. Let's be real, 121 00:07:56.360 --> 00:07:59.759 I mean been around the league for a while. Yeah 122 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:03.759 on that, But I'm just saying, like, your dad got 123 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:06.680 fired after going fourteen and two and never coached again, 124 00:08:06.800 --> 00:08:11.240 and then he eventually passed, he eventually died. The league 125 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:17.399 owed the Shottenheiner family was old one, same way. Shanahan 126 00:08:17.480 --> 00:08:23.199 finally got it right, Like I'm not gonna hate because 127 00:08:23.680 --> 00:08:27.000 you know, the man elevated. Good for him. There were 128 00:08:27.079 --> 00:08:31.680 much better candidates. But Jerry wants what Jerry wants, and 129 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:36.159 whatever vision he pitched. I think that's what Schottenheimer did. 130 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:38.919 So good for him for keeping the OC job and 131 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:40.320 getting the head coaching job. 132 00:08:40.519 --> 00:08:43.000 I would have I mean, I would have went with 133 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:46.720 more personally. I mean, but you he's he's in Philly. 134 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:50.600 Why would you go back? Why would you leave as 135 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:53.480 the O C. You didn't they didn't. 136 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:56.960 Want, they didn't want you to be a head coach 137 00:08:57.000 --> 00:08:59.600 the first time? Why would you. I'm not gonna live. 138 00:08:59.679 --> 00:09:01.720 I'm not gonna put myself in a position where you 139 00:09:01.759 --> 00:09:04.799 can reject me twice and then I lose out on 140 00:09:04.919 --> 00:09:09.200 potentially a Super Bowl opportunity with the Eagles because the 141 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:14.919 Saints job is still available now. Yeah, Saints job was 142 00:09:14.960 --> 00:09:19.240 the last one left last time I checked. Yeah, so. 143 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:26.360 All right, you know Jaguars hired uh Tampa Bay Buccaneers 144 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:32.279 or see Liam. The Jaguars had interviewed a number of candidates. 145 00:09:32.480 --> 00:09:36.639 The Jaguars had interviewed a number of candidates, including Robert 146 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:42.440 Saler and Patrick Graham. They ultimately went with Cohen. I 147 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:47.000 think they were to say something about, we're. 148 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:49.000 Gonna talk about the details of how he got hired, Y, 149 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:51.600 let's talk about it. Feel like we should wait to 150 00:09:51.639 --> 00:09:54.200 talk about the details. Let's just judge it on its merit, 151 00:09:55.200 --> 00:10:00.279 all right. So keep in mind, Baker Mayfield is out 152 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:04.519 on his eighth offensive coordinator in eight years, Lian Cohen, 153 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:08.440 Liam Cohen. That's why the Raiders would have been perfect. 154 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:11.039 Baker would have been a perfect Raider. They could have 155 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:13.240 signed him, they could have revamped his team. He's not 156 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:15.840 a free agent. He just signed. But when he was 157 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:17.639 a free agent, they could have paid him when he 158 00:10:17.720 --> 00:10:20.759 had like no value, and they gave Minshew thirty million dollars, 159 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:25.720 which I will never forgive. Yeah, So when it comes 160 00:10:25.720 --> 00:10:27.720 down to it, you know, Liam Cohen was off the 161 00:10:27.759 --> 00:10:32.600 coordinator for the Buccaneers. He made that offense go. Baker 162 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:37.200 Mayfield said, franchise records and touchdown passes. I think he 163 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:39.759 like was near up to the league. He was like 164 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:42.000 leading the league in picks with like sixteen or seventeen, 165 00:10:42.120 --> 00:10:44.840 but forty one touchdown passes. I mean, what you're you 166 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:48.919 gonna do broke one of Tom Brady's records, but that 167 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:52.480 offense is definitely thriving fully. And then Christian Tristian Wurf's 168 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:56.000 is an All Pro at left tackle and right tackle. 169 00:10:56.759 --> 00:11:00.480 Like the development of that offensive line, and they the 170 00:11:00.519 --> 00:11:03.879 Buccaneers kept losing people. They lose Godwin, they have McMillan, 171 00:11:04.879 --> 00:11:08.759 you know, Sterling Sheppard makes a comeback, Kate Adden. He 172 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:13.000 kept that offense going, and you have to respect that. 173 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:16.360 Their defense was just hurt and mangled, And I think 174 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:19.080 he would be the perfect person because I don't think 175 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:21.240 a defensive coach is going to fix Trevor Lawrence. You 176 00:11:21.320 --> 00:11:24.840 had to get an offensive guy. Cohen was the best 177 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:28.600 option available outside of Kellen Moore. That was my point. 178 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:34.879 So presumably they're all They're still all in on Trevor Lawrence, 179 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:38.879 even though this is effectively now his third offensive coach, 180 00:11:40.720 --> 00:11:44.320 So what choice They don't have a true I mean, 181 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:47.200 they just signed him last year, but I mean teams 182 00:11:47.240 --> 00:11:51.200 have done have done more with worst contracts, So I 183 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:51.600 don't know. 184 00:11:51.919 --> 00:11:54.799 And honestly, I mean, we could. 185 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:56.399 Say he doesn't have a market, but you don't really 186 00:11:56.440 --> 00:11:59.200 know until things kind of shape up in free agency, 187 00:11:59.279 --> 00:12:02.200 in the draft, there's not any real free, big free 188 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:03.559 agent quarterbacks out there. 189 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:08.600 So Sam Donald's yeah, Donald can get a fat contract 190 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:10.759 from the Titans. He fucked up his bag so much 191 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:13.200 in that last game, who knows, I mean, but then 192 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:14.799 you might get him cheap. If you're the Titans, Hey, 193 00:12:14.799 --> 00:12:19.200 we'll give you thirty million dollars. I'd rather give him 194 00:12:19.240 --> 00:12:23.200 thirty million than do what the Raiders did, because if 195 00:12:23.240 --> 00:12:26.320 Sam Donald goes to the Vikings, I mean to the Raiders, 196 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:30.639 I might snap. Wouldn't surprise me. I might snap. I 197 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:33.039 might legitimately go to San Clemente and just start tagging 198 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:33.440 up shit. 199 00:12:34.120 --> 00:12:36.960 But yeah, I mean, I like the Cohen Hire for 200 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:40.480 a lot of the reasons that you said. But I 201 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:46.519 think the thing for me is like Jacksonville has always 202 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:50.279 been good on defense, Like that's been their identity Saxonville, 203 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:55.559 like when they have that front four before with del Rio, 204 00:12:55.879 --> 00:13:00.000 Like they've always been driven by defense. 205 00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:00.720 And so. 206 00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:06.399 Like, if this whole Trevorick's Trevor Lawrence experience doesn't work 207 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:09.440 this next year or next year and a half, like 208 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:13.399 I think it's not only going to be Lawrence who's out, 209 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:16.679 but it's probably gonna be going too so he's got 210 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:19.399 to turn that offense around real quick. There's too much 211 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:23.799 talent on that roster for them to not be dynamic 212 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:29.720 on offense. And also, you can't keep giving the defensive 213 00:13:29.840 --> 00:13:35.440 soul stone to have an underachieving offense. Can't keep hiring 214 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:39.440 offensive coaches and making big offensive draft picks and then 215 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:43.000 just leaving your defense by the wayside, because really that's 216 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:44.480 what the franchise is built on. 217 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:48.159 All right, moving on. 218 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:56.080 Pete Carroll to the Raiders. Go ahead, Kenny, because you 219 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:57.360 already know how I feel about this. 220 00:13:57.440 --> 00:14:03.879 So he will be the oldest coach in NFL history 221 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:13.320 come the first game of the season. Liam Cohen was 222 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:21.559 right there, Brian Flores is right there. If you wanted 223 00:14:21.759 --> 00:14:25.639 just an old dude to lead this ship, like you 224 00:14:25.679 --> 00:14:31.639 could have just called Jim Caldwell, like this move, we're 225 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:35.399 going to let Jim go. His agent bro yep should 226 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:37.519 be because I mean, there's a lot of these, a 227 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:40.159 lot of these white reed treads, these old white re treads, 228 00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:42.480 keep getting work, and I'm like, you've done nothing to 229 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:47.799 warrant you getting another job yet Jim Caldwell fixed Matthew Stafford, 230 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:51.320 and we just act like that didn't happen. But Josh 231 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:59.240 mcdan oh, Josh McDaniels, Oh, honestly, you know what, remembering 232 00:14:59.240 --> 00:15:02.240 that job is still on the buck. He's like eighty 233 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:05.480 fucking seven. He just got hired. It's forty nine year 234 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:08.720 in the playoffs. Yeah, so let's not talk. 235 00:15:08.519 --> 00:15:14.559 About but he's an offensive consultant. He's eighty five, dog, 236 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:17.559 he's he needs to go sit down. 237 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:21.600 Yes he was, he was. He's sixty four back then. Like, 238 00:15:21.799 --> 00:15:23.480 I've seen this man my whole life, and all I 239 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:26.039 know is he's just apparently a brilliant offensive mind. And 240 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:28.279 all I know is go write some books, dog or like, 241 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:32.480 but go sit down with my grandma, Like what are 242 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:40.360 we doing? I love the GM pick I love. I mean, 243 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:42.559 if Tom Brady and Pete Carroll gotta work together and 244 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:49.080 was on the Panther staff, that's good. Revitalizing Bryce fixing 245 00:15:49.080 --> 00:15:51.120 Bryce Young. What do you know he's been on the 246 00:15:51.120 --> 00:15:55.000 Panthers staff. I know. That's why I keep saying his name, just. 247 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:57.480 So I wouldn't say he was saving Bryce Young because 248 00:15:57.519 --> 00:15:59.320 he was with them when Bryce Young was. 249 00:15:59.360 --> 00:16:03.279 Sorry, he man, and you don't look good again either 250 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:09.840 way either way. But when you factor him, okay, if 251 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:12.919 this is the guy to write the ship and get you. 252 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:16.039 If he's your okay, you got three years to fix 253 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:22.759 our franchise type of situation. Okay. Pete Carroll, Uh, you 254 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:24.919 put some great pieces together at the end of your 255 00:16:24.919 --> 00:16:28.519 time in Seattle. He put together in all pro secondary 256 00:16:28.559 --> 00:16:31.360 pretty much, so I have to give him his props. 257 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:35.080 In some areas he got too off. He got Lucas 258 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:41.120 and Charles Cross. You know, they they drafted some good guys. 259 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:46.480 He rebuilt the Seahawks, so I can't tell them be mad. 260 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:48.960 I mean, there are worst picks. I just feel like 261 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:52.440 it was lazy to give a seventy three year old 262 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:57.240 guy a three year contract and he was a professor 263 00:16:57.279 --> 00:17:05.599 at USC. It's like, like, if this doesn't work, I'm 264 00:17:05.640 --> 00:17:08.799 not giving Mark Davis a pass. You understand that, right, 265 00:17:09.680 --> 00:17:11.880 This will just be an even worse because you picked 266 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:15.160 an old dude when they were young guys available. Even 267 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:19.079 if you've Ben Johnson, he took the Bear's job. Like 268 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:22.720 you could have got Kellen Moore. You could have got 269 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:27.200 Killing Moore hot off of a playoff run. Hell, I 270 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:30.920 wouldn't have been as mad if they got Cliff Kingsbury. 271 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:35.039 I wouldn't have been as mad. But now I just 272 00:17:35.079 --> 00:17:39.160 see the Pete Carroll situation. I'm like, Okay, you're measuring 273 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:41.559 ten times and cutting once. So what you're really telling 274 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:43.640 me is you're not gonna be competitive for at least 275 00:17:43.680 --> 00:17:47.279 another two years. You're not gonna be competitive until Pet's 276 00:17:47.319 --> 00:17:50.200 on his way out, because I don't believe they're gonna 277 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:52.880 be a playoff team next year. Look at every other 278 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:57.960 QB in the AFC West. They have their franchise QB, 279 00:17:59.279 --> 00:18:02.200 the Raiders, and they probably have one of the worst 280 00:18:02.319 --> 00:18:05.160 rosters in the league. And you got Max Crosby out 281 00:18:05.160 --> 00:18:13.400 here tweeting subliminals, which honestly, he's looking like trade bait 282 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:20.160 the more the day goes by. But yeah, I mean, 283 00:18:20.279 --> 00:18:23.559 I guess I'll give it a as far as hiring goes, 284 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:27.839 I'll give it a C plus B minus. I think 285 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:30.240 there were better choices out there. But if the worst 286 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:35.720 you get his Pete Carroll. Okay, Tom Brady the Bucks 287 00:18:35.799 --> 00:18:41.519 GM that the head coach and Brady and the GM 288 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:45.759 are all lockstep is what it seems like. This to 289 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:47.279 me is. 290 00:18:47.319 --> 00:18:55.359 The best higher the Raiders have made, probably since del Rio, 291 00:18:55.640 --> 00:18:59.200 only because del Rio was kind of an obvious choice, 292 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:02.519 and I feel like in this case, Pete Carroll was 293 00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:06.279 also kind of an obvious choice. But it's like, Raiders 294 00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:08.640 don't always have to be the smartest people in the room. 295 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:11.039 You don't always got to reinvent the fucking wheel, you 296 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:14.079 don't always got to think you're better than everyone else, 297 00:19:14.119 --> 00:19:17.079 because guess what, the last twenty years of behavior has 298 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:23.319 proven that you're not further to your point. I mean, 299 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:30.440 this is the way I look at it. The past. 300 00:19:31.599 --> 00:19:37.039 Let's see a year and a half of McDaniels, half 301 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:43.400 a year and a half of Antonio Pears, half season 302 00:19:43.440 --> 00:19:47.400 of Rich Bassaccia, and a half season. 303 00:19:47.079 --> 00:19:50.319 Of Gruden, and then two years of grewd In before that. 304 00:19:51.079 --> 00:19:55.839 So pretty much for the last five years, the Raiders 305 00:19:55.839 --> 00:20:00.599 have been completely and utterly unstable, starting at the top. 306 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:04.720 And we didn't even get into the four GMS they've 307 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:10.160 had over that time, right, So, this is a team 308 00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:15.000 that's this is a team that's not just going through 309 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:19.000 a rebuild, but it has been going through a transitional. 310 00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:20.039 Period for the past ten years. 311 00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:24.599 Since they've announced the move to Vegas, they've basically been 312 00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:27.559 in a transitional period in terms of even when they 313 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:31.160 made that move, we didn't know what the impact would 314 00:20:31.200 --> 00:20:33.000 be on del Rio or McKenzie. 315 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:34.240 They didn't end up making it. 316 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:37.240 Well, McKenzie did, but Delrio didn't end up making it 317 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:42.279 to Vegas. And since then, on the back end, we've 318 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:44.720 seen them hire new president, we saw them fire a 319 00:20:44.720 --> 00:20:49.160 bunch of executives they had. They've gone through like two 320 00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:53.400 different kind of scouting overhauls already over that time. So 321 00:20:53.480 --> 00:20:56.480 the Raiders have just been in constant transition pretty much 322 00:20:56.759 --> 00:20:58.200 the last five. 323 00:20:58.000 --> 00:20:58.759 To ten years. 324 00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:02.079 And really, I mean you could probably even go back 325 00:21:02.079 --> 00:21:07.440 to before then. So for me, this higher at least 326 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:11.000 steadies and shit, like, yeah, you might be right. They 327 00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:13.680 might go seven and nine, They may go you know eight, 328 00:21:13.880 --> 00:21:15.720 They may go eight and nine. They may go nine 329 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:18.359 and eight. They may miss the playoffs with ten wins 330 00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:23.000 and a really tough division. Shoot, he may get bested 331 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:26.000 by the Chargers still in Jim Harbam like, he may 332 00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:29.000 not be Andy Reid like. But at the end of 333 00:21:29.039 --> 00:21:32.519 the day, like like we always say, the Standers a standard, 334 00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:35.599 and I think Pete Carroll is gonna finally bring that 335 00:21:35.759 --> 00:21:41.359 standard to Vegas. They're gonna actually be a well run organization. 336 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:47.319 They're going to actually you know, field some talent. They 337 00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:50.359 might field some wild cards like the Raiders always do, 338 00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:51.759 like Pete Carroll always does. 339 00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:53.759 That's kind of their ven diagram. 340 00:21:54.039 --> 00:21:56.559 But I think Pete Carroll will also develop some talent 341 00:21:56.599 --> 00:21:57.880 because he has developed some. 342 00:21:57.880 --> 00:21:58.799 Talent in Seattle. 343 00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:02.640 He has found in the rough for every you know, 344 00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:05.920 first and second round pick he's missed, he's found a guy. 345 00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:08.799 So at least for me, that's what I'm excited about. 346 00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:12.880 I'm excited for the Raiders to finally just be respectable 347 00:22:13.119 --> 00:22:18.039 and just be run correctly. Like because McDaniels, we all 348 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:20.720 knew he had personality issues before. 349 00:22:20.480 --> 00:22:21.400 They even hired him. 350 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:24.200 Gruden, we knew he was old and stuck in his 351 00:22:24.279 --> 00:22:28.519 ways and didn't even know if it worked. Antonio appears, 352 00:22:28.599 --> 00:22:31.000 we always knew was kind of a flyer. You know, 353 00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:33.799 we wanted to believe in him, but you know, we 354 00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:40.079 always knew his limitations. Pete Carroll, you know, we know 355 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:43.160 he can relate to players because he's been doing it forever. 356 00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:46.400 You know, there were players that were upset when he 357 00:22:46.440 --> 00:22:50.039 even left Seattle last year. Despite his age. We know 358 00:22:50.119 --> 00:22:53.720 he doesn't have personality issues. He's able to manage players. 359 00:22:53.720 --> 00:22:56.160 He's able to manage the coordinators. He knows how to 360 00:22:56.200 --> 00:22:58.160 conduct himself with the media, he knows how to work 361 00:22:58.160 --> 00:23:01.920 with the front office. He's he's a coach's coach. He 362 00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:06.960 knows how to coach. And then yeah, we know he's 363 00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:09.319 not limited because he could. He's won at both levels 364 00:23:09.319 --> 00:23:11.400 and he's literally one of the most winning his coaches. 365 00:23:13.039 --> 00:23:17.319 So for me, I give it a solid B plus 366 00:23:17.400 --> 00:23:19.559 a minus. I mean, if you want to say anything 367 00:23:19.559 --> 00:23:22.640 about the age, just look at our last two presidents. 368 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:24.799 Like I don't know what to tell you, like seventies 369 00:23:24.880 --> 00:23:25.640 or the New fifties. 370 00:23:29.160 --> 00:23:33.279 I mean, they really are. That's the problem with lay 371 00:23:33.319 --> 00:23:36.559 your asses down somewhere. I mean, you're not wrong on 372 00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:40.000 that point. The dream that you the world you prepared 373 00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:42.359 us for, never existed and you failed at it. That's 374 00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:43.440 why your ass is still work. 375 00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:46.319 But in a beautiful dream scenario, what I think is 376 00:23:46.359 --> 00:23:48.599 gonna make or break this higher hell is going to 377 00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:51.440 be the coordinators and the things that you said finding 378 00:23:51.559 --> 00:23:57.480 Carrol's replacement, because yeah, like let's say they go Let's 379 00:23:57.480 --> 00:23:59.440 say they go seven to nine this year, they go 380 00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:03.440 ten and ten and seven next year, and then they're 381 00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:09.319 eleven and five, and now your coordinators are getting interviews whatever, 382 00:24:09.400 --> 00:24:13.160 So instead of letting them go, you promote one, and 383 00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:15.880 then Pete Carroll moves to a senior consultant role or 384 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:18.839 a senior front office role or some sort of hybrid 385 00:24:18.920 --> 00:24:21.160 role like he was supposed to do with Seattle, but 386 00:24:21.519 --> 00:24:26.000 we all kind of knew that was showface. Anyways, that 387 00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:30.480 would be my dream scenario. Three years Pete Carroll comes in, 388 00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:34.640 Steady's the shit, finds his replacement, grooms him, gets him going, 389 00:24:35.079 --> 00:24:37.920 promotes him. He kind of steps off to the background, 390 00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:40.519 and honestly, I mean, I think this is what Pete 391 00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:44.519 Carroll is like, this is what he likes. I think 392 00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:48.359 he likes adversity, he likes he's a flip or flop 393 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:50.119 kind of guy. Like he likes to go in and 394 00:24:50.119 --> 00:24:52.839 rebuild it. He did the same thing with New England. 395 00:24:52.839 --> 00:24:56.359 He did the same thing with USC Like, I mean, 396 00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:58.880 if you really want to look at New England's kind 397 00:24:58.880 --> 00:25:02.359 of trajectory, it's Pete Carroll who really sent the foundation 398 00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:05.279 for Bill Belichick to really have all the success he had. 399 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:12.759 We want to call spade a spade, I guess, But yeah, 400 00:25:12.839 --> 00:25:14.440 all right, that's enough. 401 00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:20.680