WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:07.080 It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:08.880 Sports Talk seven ninety. 3 00:00:09.119 --> 00:00:11.160 Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think 4 00:00:11.199 --> 00:00:11.679 when we. 5 00:00:11.720 --> 00:00:15.359 Are get off our show, idiots, the kids are crying 6 00:00:15.439 --> 00:00:17.960 or trail off. The countries are screwing it up. Gold 7 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:22.039 Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inner Murals. They're supposed 8 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:25.199 to be mature adults, but they're really not. Who's the 9 00:00:25.320 --> 00:00:28.600 kid here? Who's the kid? Here? Are you kidding me? 10 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:29.519 Now? 11 00:00:29.559 --> 00:00:42.960 Here's Nick Coffee. 12 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:46.520 There's a lot that can be said about this show, 13 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:50.039 Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's that comes to you 14 00:00:50.079 --> 00:00:52.719 live every day here on Sports Talk seven ninety. And 15 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:55.159 I hope when things are said it's good stuff. But 16 00:00:56.000 --> 00:00:58.679 I know if you listen even a little bit, you 17 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:01.159 know that I'm really transparent sometimes maybe a little bit 18 00:01:01.159 --> 00:01:04.319 too much, and I'm a little distracted by myself as 19 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:09.120 as we get the show started today because self deprecation, clearly. 20 00:01:09.120 --> 00:01:10.040 I use it. 21 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:13.319 It's a thing, and it's always worked seemingly, but sometimes 22 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:16.400 I even really just surprise myself about how. 23 00:01:16.159 --> 00:01:18.640 Stupid I can be. And today is one of those days. 24 00:01:18.640 --> 00:01:20.680 Because I was I was. 25 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:25.120 Carrying my my headphones in my in my hand because 26 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:26.840 I knew I was a little bit short on time, 27 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:31.319 and sometimes it quite literally because I use these old earbuds, 28 00:01:31.400 --> 00:01:34.680 these like original iPhone earbuds. In fact, these might have 29 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:37.599 these might have been around when when the iPod came out, 30 00:01:37.640 --> 00:01:39.480 maybe they weren't even making iPhones. Like these are really 31 00:01:39.519 --> 00:01:41.480 really old, but I love them. I only use them 32 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:44.480 for the for the show. And I mean I've tried 33 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:47.000 other earbuds and they're just not the same. So they're old. 34 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:49.599 They get really tangled up. And I was holding a 35 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:54.359 monster Energy drink in in the hand that the that 36 00:01:54.439 --> 00:01:58.159 the the wire the headphones were also in, and I 37 00:01:58.519 --> 00:02:00.319 reached over with my other hand once I got my 38 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:02.840 backpack on in here to try to you know, to 39 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:05.840 try to untangle it. And it wasn't even like crazy tangled, 40 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:08.360 but I just, I guess, for a brief second, forgot 41 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:10.400 that I had an open drink in my hand, so 42 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:14.080 I just, without thinking, turned my hand upside down and 43 00:02:14.159 --> 00:02:17.319 just spilled my drink all over myself, which ch agin like, 44 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:20.400 who does that me? Sometimes I can just be a 45 00:02:20.479 --> 00:02:23.400 dumbass in a way that really amazes me. But I've 46 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:26.080 got no I tick. I'm not gonna take my pants off. 47 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:27.960 That'd be weird, could get in trouble. I don't really 48 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:30.120 know if we have an HR department here internally, but 49 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:33.879 you know, probably probably not worth the risk. But anyways, 50 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:37.080 that can't keep me down having Monster Energy drink all 51 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:40.240 over my pants and my socks and shoes. Because today's 52 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:42.960 a special day, and I mean a really special day. 53 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:46.280 We've got the return of the company man here producing 54 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:50.599 the show, mister John Alden, I mean, welcome back. 55 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:52.319 I'm very happy to be back. 56 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:55.319 I'm I'm happy that you're happy to be back. It's 57 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:57.400 gonna be a little bittersweet though, because obviously this is 58 00:02:57.479 --> 00:02:59.759 just a rare occurrence for us, And I mean, I'm 59 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:02.599 sure at some point we'll be working together on the 60 00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:05.840 air here elsewhere, who knows. And I don't mean, like 61 00:03:05.879 --> 00:03:08.840 you know, different employers, but we do have a lot 62 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:12.080 of live broadcasting that goes on within this with this, 63 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:15.319 with this company, I heart Louisville, and we don't have 64 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:17.439 as many people as we did many years ago. 65 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:18.919 In fact, we don't have as many people as we 66 00:03:18.960 --> 00:03:19.879 did a few. 67 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:22.000 Months ago, so you never know, but it's always great 68 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:24.439 to work with you and not only do we not 69 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:26.479 work together on the same show anymore, like we never 70 00:03:26.520 --> 00:03:28.479 see each other because you get here at like four 71 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:29.319 o'clock in the morning. 72 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:32.080 I woke up twelve hours ago at three am. So 73 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:35.840 does that ever get easier? I'll tell you the one 74 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:38.599 thing that has gotten easier is my body has at 75 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:41.479 least adjusted to going to bed early, but it has 76 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:44.039 not adjusted to waking up that early. Yeah. 77 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:46.439 Yeah, I mean I don't know if I don't know 78 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:49.400 if if it would ever be something. I'm just like, 79 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:51.199 all right, here we go, ready to start the day. 80 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:55.199 But God bless you, because I mean, I feel like 81 00:03:55.360 --> 00:03:58.639 most people like you when you consider when they start their. 82 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:02.240 Day, I mean where we are now, I. 83 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:04.360 Guess more so by the time we get to six o'clock, 84 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:07.080 you'll be finishing up, you know, the show with me. 85 00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:10.080 And you know, if you got up at the same 86 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:11.840 time a lot of people did, you'd be going to 87 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:13.840 bed at that time because you know, it's a hell 88 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:17.399 of a day. But yeah, I listen every morning. I 89 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:19.560 don't get to hear a big part of the show, 90 00:04:19.800 --> 00:04:21.600 but I do listen to you on with Tony Cruz 91 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:23.959 and the crew, and you know you're doing a good job. 92 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:26.480 I feel I feel like like a proud uncle or 93 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:29.120 something whenever I hear you have especially when you put 94 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:32.160 Cruse in check. Sometimes you know, not necessarily you know, 95 00:04:32.279 --> 00:04:35.000 body bagging, but you know, you hold your own and 96 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:35.680 you know. 97 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:38.199 Usually when it comes to college sports, a feeling well, yeah, 98 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:41.279 of course, I mean, I know Cruz, he's a sportsman. 99 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:41.839 He used to be. 100 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:44.839 Uh he's one of the legendary hosts that hosted a 101 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:48.600 legendary show. What was it over like fifty plus years 102 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:51.920 there was sports talk on HAS from six to eight 103 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:55.199 and you had Van Vance, you had Tony Cruz and 104 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:59.360 Lachlan McClain. I mean, last I checked, those guys are legendary. 105 00:04:59.480 --> 00:05:02.600 So anyways, happy to have the company man back and 106 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:04.879 we're with you for the next three hours. So stick around, 107 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:06.600 taking you up till six o'clock. Take us with you 108 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:09.800 wherever you go. Listen live on the iHeartRadio app. Also 109 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:13.439 listen live at seven ninety Louisville dot com. And then 110 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:14.920 we will let you guys be a part of the 111 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:18.680 show today because I have I have a question for 112 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:24.040 for both fan bases, and I think it's pretty fitting. 113 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:26.360 I don't I don't you know, I don't think I'm 114 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:28.000 really having to go out and go out of my 115 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:30.639 way to throw something out there to see if we 116 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:34.560 can get some interaction from listeners, because I think if 117 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:38.319 you're a Kentucky fan, you clearly in the last I 118 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:40.279 don't mean maybe it's been something you've been thinking about 119 00:05:40.319 --> 00:05:42.920 longer than the last forty eight hours, but especially since 120 00:05:42.959 --> 00:05:45.720 the Tennessee game's out of the way in Cala, Perry's 121 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:48.800 coming into Lexington on Saturday for his return, and of 122 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:51.759 course it's been a big topic this week or fan's 123 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:55.040 gonna boo. I've seen a lot of infighting within BBN 124 00:05:55.560 --> 00:05:58.839 about if you boo, you're a piece of scum or 125 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:01.680 you know the hell them, And I mean, I've got 126 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:03.000 thoughts on I mean, people. 127 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:03.079 Can do it. 128 00:06:03.160 --> 00:06:05.199 First of all, people can do whatever the hell they want. 129 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:07.040 And I would never and would never be able to 130 00:06:07.079 --> 00:06:08.920 really understand why I would never do it. And I 131 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:11.639 don't understand why others feel the need to like tell 132 00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:13.800 tell people how they should and shouldn't be a fan. 133 00:06:13.839 --> 00:06:14.040 Now. 134 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:17.959 You know, sometimes if somebody's gonna do something that's that's 135 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:20.240 over the top, you're not really telling them not to 136 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:22.160 be You're not really telling them how to be a 137 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:24.000 fan or how to not be a fan. You're really 138 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:26.199 just telling them, like not to be a scumbag, right, 139 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:29.160 Like if John Calipari's walking to this bench and somebody 140 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:32.319 throws a you know, full play to nachos at him, 141 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:34.399 I mean, that's not don't be a bad fan, that's 142 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:36.160 don't be an a hole. Like that's just don't be 143 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:39.079 a piece of garbage. So that's a big thing. So 144 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:44.000 I mean, I guess if you are against people booing, 145 00:06:44.839 --> 00:06:47.839 I want to know something other than well he did 146 00:06:47.879 --> 00:06:52.439 he did good for us, because like who's disputing that. 147 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:56.399 I mean, I I'm looking at it from a little 148 00:06:56.399 --> 00:07:00.160 bit of a different lens because I I think on 149 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:04.439 Cali Perry as a human being, I would never know 150 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:07.720 if he's a good or bad man. I think he's 151 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:11.079 done some good things. I also have wondered if you 152 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:13.360 know he did it to try to, you know, look 153 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:14.759 like a good guy, or if he really is a 154 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:16.399 good guy. And at the end of the day, if 155 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:18.040 you're doing a good deed, you're doing a good deed. 156 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:18.439 And that's good. 157 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:22.639 But you know, I think Cali Perry, I mean I've 158 00:07:22.680 --> 00:07:24.680 seen some things. Again, would never claim to know him, 159 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:26.319 but I know some things about him from some people 160 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:26.839 who do that. 161 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:28.879 I don't think he's a great dude. 162 00:07:29.199 --> 00:07:32.600 I mean, I just don't, so like, yeah, he did 163 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:34.600 some good stuff for you, but like he hated you 164 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:38.040 all towards the end, and he may not show that now. 165 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:40.680 He's really doing a good job of being cal and 166 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:43.800 acting like you know, it's going to be emotional and 167 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:46.399 so many great times, so many great friends, and he's 168 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:47.800 been the night. I mean really since he left, he's 169 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:49.839 been the nice guy. And I think he was always 170 00:07:49.839 --> 00:07:53.720 going to do that until he couldn't. And I'm not 171 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:55.439 sure if he ever will be able to be the 172 00:07:55.480 --> 00:07:58.480 heel as far as like in your face, look at 173 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:01.319 me now, because I mean, let's be real, this thing 174 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:04.879 has I mean, this thing is is falling off the 175 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:07.160 rails pretty early in Fadeville. I mean, they're not a 176 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:10.839 good team, and I mean I don't They'll probably be 177 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:12.920 better during his time there than they are this year, 178 00:08:12.920 --> 00:08:15.480 but the ceiling's not super high for them there. And 179 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:18.839 I think if Cal was in the same position as Kentucky, 180 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:20.879 you know, with a bunch of really good wins, looking 181 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:24.120 like a surefire bet for the tournament, he might. 182 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:27.519 Be a little like if the roles were reversed, he. 183 00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:30.399 Might do like the sympathy thing and talk about how 184 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:33.919 Mark's really I mean, he's doing a phenomenal job, but 185 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:36.960 he'd also be real like arrogant about it because he 186 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:40.159 would feel like, look at you guys, he wanted me gone. 187 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:44.000 But he can't do that because his team's terrible and 188 00:08:44.759 --> 00:08:48.159 he's doing everything he did in Lexington, but you know, 189 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:50.720 he doesn't have the good will built up there. He 190 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:53.120 doesn't have the resources to where even when things are 191 00:08:53.320 --> 00:08:57.039 not going as good as they should, they still aren't terrible. 192 00:08:57.080 --> 00:08:59.759 Because you know, you can roll out of bet It 193 00:08:59.799 --> 00:09:03.120 Canentucky and be a recruiter like he is and at 194 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:05.559 least be decent to good. And I don't mean you 195 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:07.279 could mean cal Perry deserves all the credit for being 196 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:08.679 an elite recruiter, but I mean, if you bring in 197 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:12.120 that kind of talent and you've got Kentucky behind you, 198 00:09:12.120 --> 00:09:14.480 you can be you can be good enough to you know, 199 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:18.159 not get canned because you don't have good excess. And 200 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:20.200 o's because your players alone are going to do enough 201 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:22.519 to where you're not, you know, terrible. So anyways, I 202 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:24.960 just I'm not saying Kentucky fans should boo him because 203 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:27.399 I don't know. There's people that I don't like that 204 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:29.919 I genuinely, you know, in life, I don't want I 205 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:32.000 don't want to give them the energy or I don't 206 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:34.039 want to give them my energy and make it seem 207 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:36.039 as if they they've won to where I'm thinking about 208 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:37.960 them a whole lot. But yeah, there's people if they 209 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:40.480 come up in conversation, people that I've had, you know, 210 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:43.559 history with, yeah, I would tell you I don't like them, 211 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:46.159 you know, And I not to say that I'm hoping 212 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:48.720 on their downfall, but you know, maybe I am. I 213 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:50.320 don't try to think about it, but if I did, 214 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:51.960 maybe I would end up at the end of that 215 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:54.080 thought thinking, you know what, Hell, yeah, I hope they've rotten. 216 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:54.279 Hell. 217 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:55.720 I mean, I would never want to be that way, 218 00:09:55.759 --> 00:09:57.559 because you know, I try not to be a bad person, 219 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:01.600 but you know, I just I wouldn't boo anybody just 220 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:04.360 because that's not my personality. Like booing a person is 221 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:06.399 weird to me. Doing it at a game, it's totally 222 00:10:06.399 --> 00:10:08.399 different because you know, you're you're in the moment, Like 223 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:11.360 sports makes this crazy people and booing at a game 224 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:13.440 is such a normal thing, right, Booing the refs, that 225 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:16.559 kind of stuff, Booing a bad call or booing the 226 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:18.960 opposing team, that's just normal. 227 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:22.960 But it really isn't anyway normal. Like imagine just being. 228 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:26.720 Upset at your food when you go to Chipotle, just boo. 229 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:29.080 I mean, like it's not normal. So, like that's one 230 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:30.600 thing I thought about on the way in. Is there's 231 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:32.200 so much talk about it. Are you gonna boo? Should 232 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:34.879 you boo? You better not boo. I'm gonna boo. Like 233 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:38.840 it's a silly thing overall, But no doubt, regardless of 234 00:10:38.879 --> 00:10:41.159 what you do, if you're somebody that's like, Nope, I 235 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:43.039 would never boo him because I appreciate him. He brought 236 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:44.799 it to a title. Or if you're somebody that is 237 00:10:44.879 --> 00:10:47.840 going to, you know, say the hell with him. I 238 00:10:47.879 --> 00:10:51.279 mean it, but it's an emotional thing, and I'm just 239 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:53.799 I guess if you are somebody that's gonna be bothered 240 00:10:53.840 --> 00:10:56.919 by the fan base booing him, and if it seems 241 00:10:56.919 --> 00:11:01.360 as if there's more booze than cheers, I just wonder 242 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:03.200 why is it because you just love cal that much 243 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:06.480 or because not to say you should hate the man, 244 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:09.720 but he is at a different school that you compete against. 245 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:13.720 You're playing him Saturday. And also he wasn't good to 246 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:17.440 you towards the end. Not only did he not sustain 247 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:22.080 success that he needs to sustain. And I'm not talking 248 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:24.639 about like going to final fours every year like he 249 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:26.759 did in his first five years, like he was, I 250 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:29.279 mean two of the most two of the most embarrassing 251 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:32.080 losses Kentucky's ever had. The NAA Tournament came in two 252 00:11:32.080 --> 00:11:34.759 out of three years with him coaching, when he had 253 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:38.000 a National Player of the Year one year, and you know, 254 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:40.200 three of the best guards in college basketball, three of 255 00:11:40.240 --> 00:11:42.200 the best shooters that ever played a Kentucky. And he 256 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:44.440 was never humble like he never, I mean he always, 257 00:11:44.799 --> 00:11:47.480 you know, acted like I don't who do we play next? 258 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:50.240 I gotta go home and pet my dog like. 259 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:50.840 He would he would. 260 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:54.120 He was an a hole to you guys, And what 261 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:56.039 I think is wild. And I'll give Shannon the dude 262 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:58.600 some credit. I heard him briefly this morning mention this 263 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:01.960 on the pre show, and He's right. Cal never really changed. 264 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:06.519 He's been the same guy to you guys from start 265 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:10.440 to finish. He just stopped winning and then he started 266 00:12:10.440 --> 00:12:13.080 to really kind of dip and then he became you know, 267 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:15.679 if anything, I guess he became more stubborn, and you 268 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:17.639 get that way when things aren't going well. But at 269 00:12:17.639 --> 00:12:18.840 the end of the day, I kind of feel like 270 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:19.759 he was consistent. 271 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:21.559 It's just man. 272 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:23.720 Whenever he's not on top of the world and he's 273 00:12:23.759 --> 00:12:26.679 acting like that, you know. I don't want to say 274 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:29.919 you grow to despise him, but I mean, I look 275 00:12:29.960 --> 00:12:35.440 at it like this. It was a I well, I 276 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:37.639 was going to talk about something personal, but I shouldn't 277 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:39.919 do that because it's not my business. But I'm sure 278 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:44.039 there's people out there that know of a marriage or 279 00:12:44.039 --> 00:12:47.759 maybe it was them in their previous marriage, that the 280 00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:52.240 divorce when it actually happened wasn't as hard as you thought, 281 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:55.360 because like the years leading up to knowing you're falling. 282 00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:59.320 Apart, that's the hardest that is. That is what that is. 283 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:02.600 When you're real, really struggling because you know this isn't 284 00:13:02.600 --> 00:13:05.600 gonna work. We're not we're not in sync anymore, we're 285 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:08.120 not in love anymore. And you know, you just go 286 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:10.279 through the sadness and then you know, you break the 287 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:12.159 ice and then you go through the process and it's 288 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:14.559 still not something that you enjoy or that's fun, but 289 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:16.159 like the hardest part's kind of out of the way. 290 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:19.279 I kind of feel like that happened with Kentucky. They knew, 291 00:13:19.440 --> 00:13:23.399 even if they didn't tell you, but they knew Cal's 292 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:24.919 best day. I mean, I probably didn't know we're gonna 293 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:27.559 lose to Oakland. It was that guy's name who went 294 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:29.960 off for him, Golki. Yeah, I always forget his name, 295 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:31.600 and I should remember him forever. I should get his 296 00:13:31.759 --> 00:13:33.480 I should get his name tattooed on my body. 297 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:36.159 But you need to expect that. 298 00:13:36.399 --> 00:13:39.919 However, I mean, you knew, like you knew that that 299 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:41.840 that your team was not going to be as good 300 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:43.360 as they should be with him towards the end, and 301 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:45.159 he was never gonna change. He was gonna be stubborn, 302 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:47.120 not adapt to the new times and all that kind 303 00:13:47.159 --> 00:13:50.720 of stuff. So I don't know, I've I've found myself 304 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:54.600 kind of interested in the whole dynamic here. But anyways, 305 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:56.559 we'll let you guys react to it. And by the way, 306 00:13:57.080 --> 00:13:59.879 I mentioned something in a moment ago that that I 307 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:02.679 need to correct. I don't think you're gonna see I 308 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:06.080 guess maybe more so here a good mixture of cheers 309 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:10.720 and booze. I think that the the audio like what 310 00:14:10.759 --> 00:14:13.879 you're gonna hear hether you're there or it's on television, 311 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:17.000 it's gonna be a negative thing for col because I 312 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:19.200 would be willing to bet those that aren't gonna boo, 313 00:14:21.039 --> 00:14:22.879 A lot of them aren't gonna cheer, right, like not 314 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:25.200 gonna root him on. They're just kind of sitting silence, 315 00:14:25.240 --> 00:14:26.759 like okay, yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, I 316 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:29.159 don't think you're gonna get a mixture of cheers and booze. 317 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:33.440 I think you're gonna get a mixture of cheers, silence, 318 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:36.440 and then a little bit of I'm sorry booze silence, 319 00:14:36.440 --> 00:14:40.279 and then some applause and cheer. But I think, you know, 320 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:43.080 I don't think it's I don't think it's this or that. 321 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:44.559 I don't meaning I don't think you're if you if 322 00:14:44.559 --> 00:14:46.200 you're not booing your cheer, and I think if you're not, 323 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:48.120 if you're not booing, you're probably just gonna sit there 324 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:50.960 like you typically do whenever they announce the opposing coach, 325 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:53.879 for you know, for Kentucky basketball games. So what I 326 00:14:53.879 --> 00:14:57.960 wanted to bring in Louisville fans with this is who 327 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:01.120 are you cheering for? And I kind of think I 328 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:06.120 know the answer, But I have found it pretty pretty 329 00:15:06.159 --> 00:15:11.600 easy to continue to hate watch Cali Perry coach. Right, 330 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:15.440 Like Arkansas winning in Kentucky fans being sad about it, 331 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:17.759 I feel like would have been something that I as 332 00:15:17.799 --> 00:15:20.360 a Louisville fan that is very much invested in the rivalry, 333 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:21.919 I feel like that would have been something I would 334 00:15:21.919 --> 00:15:25.840 have enjoyed. But I mean, I'm still loving seeing cal 335 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:28.120 choke and lose games that he probably shouldn't lose with 336 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:30.759 a bunch of really talented players. And I'd be a 337 00:15:30.799 --> 00:15:33.200 liar if I told you I don't know this for sure. Right, 338 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:35.679 Maybe I'll go see a therapist and they'll tell me 339 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:38.279 why I have these thoughts. In fact, that's a pretty 340 00:15:38.679 --> 00:15:40.399 helpful thing if you've never done it before. 341 00:15:40.559 --> 00:15:40.720 Right. 342 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:42.480 I learned a lot about why I think the way 343 00:15:42.519 --> 00:15:45.600 I do when talking to a therapist. But I don't 344 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:48.080 think that the reason I'm still rooting for Caw to 345 00:15:48.120 --> 00:15:51.759 lose is because Kenny Paine's on his bench. Like I'm 346 00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:54.360 not mad. I mean, it's still crazy that it happened, 347 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:56.039 but it's in the past. Like I still think Kenny 348 00:15:56.080 --> 00:15:58.639 Payne is a bomb as a coach, I mean, and 349 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:03.159 I thought he really handled him self very poorly as 350 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:05.480 a human with the whole situation here. I mean, that's 351 00:16:05.519 --> 00:16:07.720 my thoughts, But like it's not something I sit around 352 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:09.480 and stew on. Again, as I've said many times, the 353 00:16:09.559 --> 00:16:11.600 only time I think about Kenny Paine and his two 354 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:13.360 years here as a coach is when it hits me 355 00:16:13.399 --> 00:16:14.679 how great things are going now. 356 00:16:15.039 --> 00:16:15.799 And yeah, I mean, but. 357 00:16:16.240 --> 00:16:19.480 The for it to be as bad as it was, 358 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:22.720 as consistently awful as it was from start to finish, 359 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:24.799 I mean, that's how you ended up in the situation 360 00:16:24.840 --> 00:16:26.799 where you get Pat Kelsey and you know, here we are, 361 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:28.200 none of us knew if it was gonna work out. 362 00:16:28.720 --> 00:16:34.120 That's like I think if Rick Bettino was at Iona 363 00:16:34.279 --> 00:16:38.320 earlier than he was and he was having great success 364 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:41.200 and Chris Mack stunk in his first two years. 365 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:42.720 We'd be real bitter towards Rick. 366 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:46.159 But because Mack was winning pretty early and the success 367 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:48.559 was there in his first couple of years, he didn't, 368 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:49.600 you know, it wasn't even. 369 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:50.039 Something you thought about. 370 00:16:50.120 --> 00:16:52.159 Like if Louisville was in a terrible position and let's 371 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:54.879 say Pat Kelsey was awful and we got like five wins. 372 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:57.840 Right now, I think all the anger would be honestly 373 00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:01.440 towards a variety of people, but Kelsey be one of them, 374 00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:03.159 Heard would be one of them, but probably more so 375 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:05.720 Kenny like now just comes up in conversation like did 376 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:06.160 that happen? 377 00:17:06.240 --> 00:17:06.759 Is that real? 378 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:09.920 So that's why I'm asking Louisville fans, do you do 379 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:13.240 you want to see Cal and Kenny Payne lose? Like 380 00:17:13.240 --> 00:17:15.200 would that give you anything? Or are you still going 381 00:17:15.279 --> 00:17:18.759 to be I would say the common Louisville fan which 382 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:24.440 doesn't know how to not root for the team playing 383 00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:26.799 Kentucky because that's me, right Like, I think I'm going 384 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:29.759 to be cheering for Arkansas and it'd be the first 385 00:17:29.839 --> 00:17:32.519 time ever in my life as a Louisville fan if 386 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:37.079 Kentucky basketball is on and I'm you know, not up 387 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:40.480 yelling or hooting and hollering, but like I'm I'm wanting 388 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:43.720 them to win and not the opponent. So maybe this 389 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:45.279 is going to be a real learning experience for me, 390 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:48.160 right Like, maybe Pope is going to be that hard 391 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:50.680 to dislike to where I'm still just gonna prefer to 392 00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:54.880 see you know, Cal lose and Kenny Payne. 393 00:17:54.720 --> 00:17:56.480 Lose, but I don't know. 394 00:17:56.480 --> 00:18:00.279 I just I don't think that it necessarily deserves game 395 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:02.519 day like Kentucky fans did. But if they got it, 396 00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:05.240 I wouldn't complain. And if there's anybody to blame for 397 00:18:05.359 --> 00:18:08.000 it not getting maybe more attention from ESPN. 398 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:09.680 It's that Arkansas sucks. That's what it is. 399 00:18:09.759 --> 00:18:12.720 I mean, and he's at Arkansas, Like Arkansas is a 400 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:15.519 good program, certainly a really good program when it comes 401 00:18:15.559 --> 00:18:18.319