Speaker 1: Good evening and welcome to another edition of The Cage
Speaker 1: and Night Live. I am your host the Cage and
Speaker 1: Night Jacob Mook. We're gonna be talking about a couple
Speaker 1: of things going on in other countries, but primarily this
Speaker 1: is going to be an American based current event conversation.
Speaker 1: Let's just start off at the top. And I don't
Speaker 1: even have an article pulled up for this one. I
Speaker 1: should have. But honestly, if you're unless you're living under
Speaker 1: a rock, you have heard the news that there is
Speaker 1: nothing more to look at when it comes to anything
Speaker 1: Epstein related. We heard Cash Parttel and Dan Bongino just
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago say that it's confirmed now
Speaker 1: that he offered himself. Okay. Then Pam Bondy was saying
Speaker 1: that they had over ten thousand hours of camera footage
Speaker 1: that she had to go through and files and all
Speaker 1: these things. Then they come out and say that there
Speaker 1: is no client list or list of co conspirators or
Speaker 1: any other guilty party other than Jeffrey himself. I've heard
Speaker 1: some reports saying that he's not even guilty of any crimes,
Speaker 1: but somehow he was, I guess for the the trafficking
Speaker 1: charge possibly, but nothing ridiculously explicit has been said. Then
Speaker 1: just yesterday, as a matter of fact, Trump and Pam Bondy,
Speaker 1: members of his cabinet, were giving a little press conference
Speaker 1: and one of the press a guy can't remember his name,
Speaker 1: you know, Chattathan looking, white guy just as standard as
Speaker 1: the come, asked a question about the Epstein files, the list,
Speaker 1: any of these things. And I watched Trump gaslight this
Speaker 1: guy and all he was, I mean, oh, listen, are
Speaker 1: we are we still talking about this? Are we still
Speaker 1: talking about Epstein? We have we have floods over here,
Speaker 1: We had this going on, and we're still talking about this.
Speaker 1: It's dead, It's over, like it's it's whatever. Then Pam
Speaker 1: Bondi spoke up and she basically confirmed that there was
Speaker 1: nothing more to look at here. Are we still talking
Speaker 1: about this guy? You mean, the thing that has been
Speaker 1: number one on so many people's agendas for years, one
Speaker 1: of the things that you talked about in your election
Speaker 1: campaign that got you elected, the thing that you know
Speaker 1: you even your first term in office, people were talking
Speaker 1: about this, like are we still talking about Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we are very much still talking about it. Hell, only
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago it was discovered quote unquote
Speaker 1: that there was new video evidence from the prison. And
Speaker 1: now they're saying that, uh, there's a the the cameras
Speaker 1: that the prison sells, there's a one minute gap that
Speaker 1: apparently their system was so outdated and it was such
Speaker 1: a faulty securities network at a prison known for holding
Speaker 1: high profile prisoners. But okay, and every night, at a
Speaker 1: certain time there would be a one minute section where
Speaker 1: the cameras would just cut off and then kick back on.
Speaker 1: Now Pam Bondy is looking back at fifteen years worth
Speaker 1: of videos to show that every night, at a certain time,
Speaker 1: it would cut out for one minute. She said this
Speaker 1: as she was also saying that they delete the videos
Speaker 1: every twenty four hours, or that they used to the
Speaker 1: prison has been shut down, but that every morning, basically
Speaker 1: they would delete the previous day's videos. So how is
Speaker 1: she saying that she's going through the next fifteen years
Speaker 1: of videos as there's no videos to go through even
Speaker 1: though there's ten thousand hours of videos. It's ridiculous. So
Speaker 1: Trump pretty much just gaslit this dude and was like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's nothing to look at it. We're still
Speaker 1: talking about this, are we like? Oh really? We're still here.
Speaker 1: It was very remnant to me personally of Killery on
Speaker 1: the stand when she is getting asked about Benghazi and
Speaker 1: her response, what does it matter, What does it matter,
Speaker 1: It's over, it happened, Let's move on. It's like you're
Speaker 1: currently on the stand for that crime and the negligence
Speaker 1: of your job, and you're asking, what difference does it make? Okay? Cool?
Speaker 1: It sounded very much like that, So, yeah, that we could.
Speaker 1: If we're gonna just talk about that, we might as
Speaker 1: well get that out the way now. The Trump judicial
Speaker 1: system is as flawed as every other judicial system from
Speaker 1: any other president that has come through. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say more corrupt, less corrupt. I'm actually at this point
Speaker 1: putting it right on pour with everybody else. So as
Speaker 1: previously expected, we are never gonna see the client lists.
Speaker 1: We're never gonna see the flight logs. We're never gonna
Speaker 1: see And they they brought up, uh, what was it?
Speaker 1: I heard Les Wexner. I'm probably saying that name wrong,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter. He's trash. There is a few
Speaker 1: names that I've seen proposed. However, they're never going to like, no,
Speaker 1: no extra digging is gonna be done. No extra inquiries
Speaker 1: are gonna be made into any of these names or
Speaker 1: these claims, because it's all circumstantial, it's all erroneous. It's
Speaker 1: all this name, your legal term at this time. To
Speaker 1: say that it's not connected doesn't matter and needs to
Speaker 1: be thrown out. It's a bit of a it's a
Speaker 1: bit of a kick into the uh, into the spiritual
Speaker 1: gonads of this country. I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of how this shook out, but
Speaker 1: unfortunately I had hopes that it wouldn't turn out this way.
Speaker 1: But I expected that it would turn out this way.
Speaker 1: I don't know if any of you have any uh
Speaker 1: other opinions on it, or any other information I'll want
Speaker 1: to bring up, but please do. It's just it's just
Speaker 1: not a good look. It's not a good time, and
Speaker 1: unfortunately these victims will never see justice, which again I
Speaker 1: was that I would be wrong. I was hoping that
Speaker 1: maybe Trump would do what he said he would do.
Speaker 1: He's done that with so many other campaign promises that
Speaker 1: he made to people. Right, there's a long list from
Speaker 1: his first term and this term of him doing what
Speaker 1: he said he would do. And I'm not taking this
Speaker 1: opportunity to just bash on Trump himself or his cabinet.
Speaker 1: But also I believe in calling a spade a spade,
Speaker 1: and this this is egregious with no nothing else to
Speaker 1: look at here, It's just it's horrible. Let's see here,
Speaker 1: Raven Lee just shared a picture with the chat Let's
Speaker 1: see who are these people? Oh yeah, yeah, so I've
Speaker 1: actually seen the video that these still still shots are
Speaker 1: taken from. Trump was having a party and I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was like one of his hotels, an apartment, whatever,
Speaker 1: and then he had all of these young twenty something
Speaker 1: year old girls running around. And keep in mind, this
Speaker 1: is the same Trump that was having the locker room
Speaker 1: talk talking about grabbing him by the you know what
Speaker 1: and everything way back when. So I mean, this is
Speaker 1: this is the same guy. He's a little older now,
Speaker 1: but the same guy with the same type of mindset.
Speaker 1: And apparently Epstein and Maxwell and I think there was
Speaker 1: one other guy. I want to say it was like
Speaker 1: the owner of a sports team. I could be wrong,
Speaker 1: came up and they just kind of hung out for
Speaker 1: a little bit, and Epstein seemed unimpressed. I'm gonna be honest,
Speaker 1: he was smiling and cutting up with Trump. But it
Speaker 1: didn't seem like he didn't walk in be like whoa
Speaker 1: my kind of party, like not even he was kind
Speaker 1: of just like, oh wow, very nice, cool, awesome that
Speaker 1: that kind of ties in though he liked his women younger,
Speaker 1: you know, twenty somethings, that's that's too old for him.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of like Leo DiCaprio whenever a
Speaker 1: girl hits what was it, what was the magic known
Speaker 1: for him? Twenty seven, then she's like too old for
Speaker 1: him or whatever. But anyway, so I don't know how
Speaker 1: to call it. I'm not a fan of any of
Speaker 1: this whatsoever. Yeah, not not a good day as far
Speaker 1: as the American public and our faith and confidence goes
Speaker 1: into the Trump administration. But anyway, all right, now that
Speaker 1: we've gotten that out of the way, and yes, good people,
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Speaker 1: about some start off with some world news still close
Speaker 1: to the American heartland, but still technically international. So there
Speaker 1: was a memorandum AKAA memo that was released saying that
Speaker 1: an inquiry done in twenty twenty two confirmed that a
Speaker 1: notorious cartel, the Sineloa cartel, hired a hacker to use
Speaker 1: surveillance cameras, phone data, and track and kill FBI informants.
Speaker 1: So they basically did a deep dive onto this, an inquiry,
Speaker 1: an investigation, and they confirmed these But however, this wasn't
Speaker 1: released to the public until this memo happened just a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. As a matter of fact, So
Speaker 1: let's just read in here. The notorious drug cartel enlisted
Speaker 1: a hacker who was able to infiltrate phone data and
Speaker 1: Mexico City surveillance cameras to help track and kill FBI informants.
Speaker 1: The US Justice Department has revealed in twenty eighteen, the
Speaker 1: operation was disclosed. Oh I'm sorry. The twenty eighteen operation
Speaker 1: was disclosed Thursday in a forty seven page audit by
Speaker 1: the Justice Department Inspector General outlining the FBI's efforts to
Speaker 1: mitigate the effects of ubiquitous technical surveillance. So, like I said,
Speaker 1: this whole thing happened in twenty eighteen, they confirmed it
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. We're going to read more about
Speaker 1: that in a minute. And just this week or last week,
Speaker 1: the Justice Department actually did an audit and found this out,
Speaker 1: so let's keep going here. The partially redactive reports cited
Speaker 1: sites a case involving Joaquin El Chappo Goozman. Perhaps you've
Speaker 1: heard of them, The founder of the infamous Sinaloa cartel.
Speaker 1: El Chopo is now serving a life sentence in a
Speaker 1: maximum security prison in the US on moultiple conspiracyccounts for
Speaker 1: smuggling vast quantities of cocaine and other drugs into the
Speaker 1: US for more than a quarter of a century. I
Speaker 1: will say this, nobody did it better. I know everybody
Speaker 1: wants to give all the fame and glory to Pablo
Speaker 1: Escobar for being like the guy, dude El Choppo. If
Speaker 1: we're going to be real technical here with the logistics
Speaker 1: and the money and the violence runs circles around Escobar,
Speaker 1: and if I'm not a mistake, it did it for
Speaker 1: longer before he was stopped. But anyway, I digress. According
Speaker 1: to the newly released audit, an unnamed hacker was recruited
Speaker 1: by the cartel in twenty eighteen. The hacker quote observed
Speaker 1: people going in and out of the United States Embassy
Speaker 1: in Mexico City and identified people of interest for the cartel,
Speaker 1: including an FBI assistant legal attache. The report said the
Speaker 1: hacker was able to use the attache's phone number to
Speaker 1: determine incoming and outgoing calls, as well as the FBI's
Speaker 1: official geolocation data. According to the audit, the report said
Speaker 1: the hacker also used Mexico City surveillance camera systems to
Speaker 1: the FBI at tache through the city and identify people
Speaker 1: they've met with the cartel use that information to intimidate
Speaker 1: and in some instances kill potential sources for cooperating or
Speaker 1: cooperating witnesses. The report noted that the modern technology has
Speaker 1: made it difficult to protect sensitive operations and sources. See I.
Speaker 1: For the longest time, it was seeing that the he
Speaker 1: who has the better technology has the better surveillance and
Speaker 1: therefore will probably have the upper hand. But everything's hackable.
Speaker 1: Everything is hackable. If you have your phone picked up
Speaker 1: by a Wi Fi router, it can be hacked. Or
Speaker 1: if you have your Bluetooth turned on and you're in
Speaker 1: close enough proximity to somebody who might be a bad actor,
Speaker 1: then it can be hacked. So all of the systems
Speaker 1: that have been put in place for surveillance and tracking,
Speaker 1: and all of these things that are used for INTEL
Speaker 1: in turn can be hacked. And I understand that things
Speaker 1: are supposed to be encrypted. I understand they're supposed to
Speaker 1: be levels to this to where people aren't supposed to
Speaker 1: be able to do this. I mean, that's only one
Speaker 1: threat away, especially if you're going in and you're getting
Speaker 1: to the cell phone provider and you're able to threaten
Speaker 1: somebody at the top, maybe not in America, but in
Speaker 1: another country where the laws are a little more subject
Speaker 1: to whoever's got the biggest firepower can make the laws. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how hard would it be for you to just hack
Speaker 1: into a mainframe or get access to a giant data
Speaker 1: center or whatever the case would be. But anyway, he said,
Speaker 1: he used the surveillance chepers. The report noted that the
Speaker 1: modern technology has made it difficult to protect sensitive operations
Speaker 1: and sources. Advances in data mining and analysis, facial recognition,
Speaker 1: and computer network ex exploitation have made it easier than
Speaker 1: ever for nation state adversaries, terrorist organizations, and criminal networks
Speaker 1: to identify FBI personnel and operations. The report urged the
Speaker 1: FBI to conduct an enterprise why threat assessment to determine
Speaker 1: where the agency is most vulnerable the Senaloa Cartel, which
Speaker 1: was designated a terrorist organization earlier this year by the
Speaker 1: Trump administration, which I personally am of the belief that
Speaker 1: we should have classified them that a very long time ago.
Speaker 1: I Digress has long been one of Mexico's most powerful
Speaker 1: and ruthless crime syndicates. The cartel is one of the
Speaker 1: largest producers and traffickers of fentanyl and other drugs to
Speaker 1: the US, and has been known to murder, kidnap, and
Speaker 1: intimidate civilians, government officials, and journalists, according to the US
Speaker 1: State Department. The revelation about the Senaloa Cartel cacker comes
Speaker 1: just weeks after the US offered a ten million dollar
Speaker 1: reward for the capture of two of El Chappo's sons,
Speaker 1: Archivaldo Ivan Guzman Salazar and Jesus Alfredo Guzman Salazar. He's
Speaker 1: they gotta have that hyphenation, don't thing anyway. His other
Speaker 1: two sons, Joaquin Guzman Lopez and a Video Guzman Lopez,
Speaker 1: are currently in US custody. L Chapo's sons lead a
Speaker 1: faction of the Cinelol cartel known as Chapzos or Little Chopos.
Speaker 1: The torpedoes and their cartel associates have used corkscrews, electrocution,
Speaker 1: and hot chilies to torture their rivals, while some of
Speaker 1: their victims were fed dead or alive to tigers. According
Speaker 1: to a twenty twenty three US indictment, I feel like
Speaker 1: that's just business as usual as far as everything they
Speaker 1: could have just listed for what cartels do. I didn't
Speaker 1: hear one sign of a til on a neck tie
Speaker 1: or anything like that. It's corkscrews. Okay, that does suck,
Speaker 1: but there's worse things electrocution and hot chilies. I didn't
Speaker 1: think that that necessarily needed a mention, but okay, sure,
Speaker 1: why not? And then victims being fed dead or alive
Speaker 1: to tigers. Again, I feel like that's just kind of
Speaker 1: business as usual. Anyway. This is a little quick clip
Speaker 1: from CBS News. Let's listen in to how the audit
Speaker 1: played out and what all went down.
Speaker 2: And one of the men charged is the son of
Speaker 2: the notorious drug kingpin Joaquin El Chapo Guzman. The Justice
Speaker 2: Department has confirmed that it has detained the leader of
Speaker 2: the cartel Ismael el Mayo Zambada at Joaquin Guzman. Both
Speaker 2: men were arrested in Alpaso, Texas, without incident. Zimbada pleaded
Speaker 2: not guilty to all charges in federal court earlier. So
Speaker 2: we mentioned Guzman's father is El Chappo, who ran the
Speaker 2: cartel until he was captured in twenty sixteen. He's serving
Speaker 2: a life sentence for charges including drug trafficking and money laundering.
Speaker 2: Let's bring in CBS News national correspondent Minuelbehorg has has
Speaker 2: been following this case for US. So first, who are
Speaker 2: these men and what were the circumstances surrounding their arrests.
Speaker 3: Well, these are two high profile targets for the United States,
Speaker 3: and we are learning that the way that they were
Speaker 3: arrested was actually a trick.
Speaker 4: We're learning that.
Speaker 3: Is Maelzambada thought he was going to see properties in
Speaker 3: northern Mexico, but instead was flowed owned to a small
Speaker 3: airport outside of El Paso. Or he was taken into
Speaker 3: custody by federal agents and as you mentioned, also taken
Speaker 3: into custody yesterday the son of El Chapo Guzman, Joaquin Guzman.
Speaker 3: These men were said to have been running one of
Speaker 3: the most largest and powerful violent criminal organizations in Mexico,
Speaker 3: responsible for importing trafficking drugs into the United States and Europe. Specifically,
Speaker 3: they're charged with bringing fentanyl into the United States, which,
Speaker 3: as you know, has created a crisis that has killed
Speaker 3: tens of thousands of Americas.
Speaker 2: How big of a deal is this when it comes
Speaker 2: to cutting off these cartels and their ability to traffic
Speaker 2: drugs into the US.
Speaker 3: Well, it is a big deal to have these two
Speaker 3: men arrested, but the effect really becomes debatable. Sambada has
Speaker 3: already said in the past that in the event of
Speaker 3: his capture or death that he has a plan to
Speaker 3: keep the cartel in operation. And you remember, the capture
Speaker 3: of El Cha didn't necessarily end the cartel's operations, so
Speaker 3: it's definitely a blow. But the other thing at play
Speaker 3: here is as long as there is a market for
Speaker 3: these drugs in the United States, Europe and other places,
Speaker 3: someone will be looking to fill the void and still
Speaker 3: continue to profit by bringing them into those countries.
Speaker 2: Now one has to think about chicken or the egg.
Speaker 2: Is the market here because they were trafficking drugs in
Speaker 2: the first place. What's next for these two Meanwhile, right well.
Speaker 3: As you mentioned, Zambada has already had a first appearance
Speaker 3: at a federal courthouse in El Paso, where he pleaded
Speaker 3: not guilty to the charges. He'll go through the judicial process.
Speaker 3: We're still a waiting word on one. Guzman will have
Speaker 3: a first appearance and what plea he decides.
Speaker 2: To enter Behorqez.
Speaker 1: Thank you all right. So, as we were talking about
Speaker 1: the arrests that were made on these gentlemen, I still
Speaker 1: found it interesting that they were using our intelligence agencies
Speaker 1: surveillance systems to track down new targets to intimidate. I
Speaker 1: think that that's some that we absolutely needed to talk
Speaker 1: about here on the Cage to Night. With that being said,
Speaker 1: we need to talk about two spies that were recently
Speaker 1: found by Greece and Cyprus that were Azerbaijohnny in origin,
Speaker 1: and there's a belief that they were feeding information to Iram.
Speaker 1: We're talking from Al Jazeera as a matter of fact
Speaker 1: on this one, this will be an interesting one. Arrests
Speaker 1: comes shortly after Cyprus detains ethnic azari Iszerbai Johnny suspects
Speaker 1: of planning an attack on a military base for Iram.
Speaker 1: Greek police have arrested in Azerbai Johnny national suspective of
Speaker 1: spying on a NATO base on the island of Crete.
Speaker 1: Local media reported on Monday that the man was detained
Speaker 1: the previous day on suspicion of espionage. Authorities are reportedly
Speaker 1: investigating whether the case is linked to the arrest in
Speaker 1: recent days of a man with Isaari roots excuse me,
Speaker 1: I'm probably mispronouncing it in Cyprus on suspicion of terror
Speaker 1: related offenses linked to IRAM. The twenty six year old
Speaker 1: was arrested in after he was seen scouting the air
Speaker 1: and naval base of the United States at Suda Bay,
Speaker 1: broadcaster ERT reported, citing police and intelligence sources. According to
Speaker 1: the report, authority said he was seen photographing strategically sensitive
Speaker 1: locations and tracking the movements of warships entering and leaving
Speaker 1: the bay. The base is a strategic US and NATO
Speaker 1: facility for the Eastern Mediterranean. Police seized approximately five thousand
Speaker 1: photographs and numerous videos. The suspect is expected to be
Speaker 1: brought before a public prosecutor. The arrest came days after
Speaker 1: a similar incident in Cyprus, where a man was detained
Speaker 1: for alleged espionage and planning a terrorist attack quote unquote
Speaker 1: on military facilities. I love how they put quote unquote
Speaker 1: it's actually it's very simple to tell if something is
Speaker 1: a terrorist attack or not. Does it have political means
Speaker 1: or a political aim that this guy is going after.
Speaker 1: That's the distinction between like a mass shooter and a
Speaker 1: terrorist attack. A mass shooter is doing it because of
Speaker 1: the psycho. A terrorist attack is doing it because he's
Speaker 1: trying to further a political means or a goal of
Speaker 1: some type. That's that's the dividing line. But anyway, the
Speaker 1: suspect too, was also reported to be ethnically a Zeri
Speaker 1: was said to be acting on behalf of Iran's Islamic
Speaker 1: Revolutionary Guard Corps. Of course he was according to Kryptoid
Speaker 1: Media cyprit Yeah okay, I didn't know. That's okay, people
Speaker 1: from Cyprus, cyprit good to good to know. According to
Speaker 1: Cypriot media, citing government sources, he entered the country using
Speaker 1: a British passport. Shocked. I'm completely shocked that an Islamic
Speaker 1: terrorists found his way into another country using a British passport.
Speaker 1: How did he get to Britain first? Well, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: kind of why Britain is UH is having its own
Speaker 1: issues right now. But anyway, Israel's foreign Minister Gideon Sar
Speaker 1: said on Saturday that the IRGC had attempted to carry
Speaker 1: out a terror attack targeting Israeli's again not exactly shocked
Speaker 1: by that. Cypers and Crete light close to the Middle
Speaker 1: East and have a in recent days been used as
Speaker 1: a transit point amid the conflict between Israel and the
Speaker 1: US and Iran, Iran whatever. Since the start of the hostilities,
Speaker 1: reports of detected espionage have increased on both sides. Iran
Speaker 1: has carried out multiple arrests since Israel launched its bombing
Speaker 1: campaign on July thirteenth, and executed several others who had
Speaker 1: been arrested in recent years. On Monday, Iran's judiciary said
Speaker 1: it had executed Mohammed Amen Madavi Sayeshtek Yeah, for intelligence
Speaker 1: cooperation with the Zionist regime, which is Iran's term for Israel. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes sense. He was also convicted of collaborating with
Speaker 1: Iran International, a Persian language TV channel based in London
Speaker 1: that is critical of the Iranian government and that Tehran
Speaker 1: considered linked to Israel. Okay, I'm not gonna lie. Before
Speaker 1: I read this article, didn't know that there was a
Speaker 1: Persian language TV channel in England, there's an entire TV
Speaker 1: channel that speaks of the Persian language because there's so
Speaker 1: many people in England right now that are not English
Speaker 1: by birth that they get their own designay channel, Okay, sure,
Speaker 1: And of course if it's going to be critical of
Speaker 1: the IRGC and the Ayatola, it's clearly Israeli based. I
Speaker 1: you know, I get it whatever, although for the record,
Speaker 1: eighty five percent of the country is critical of the Ayatola.
Speaker 1: But sure. The previous day, Iran executed Majid Musayebi after
Speaker 1: saying he had been proved to have been working with Mussad.
Speaker 1: Late on Sunday, officials in Tehran reported that three people
Speaker 1: have been arrested in western province of Crementsha Kremansha, Yeah,
Speaker 1: on allegations of espionage, one a national of the European country.
Speaker 1: Special judicial branches are now planned to provincial prosecutors are
Speaker 1: now planned in provincial prosecutor's office and courts to handle
Speaker 1: Israeli linked espionage cases on an extraordinary basis. Officials added,
Speaker 1: Iran is the world's second most prolific executor after China,
Speaker 1: according to human rights groups including Amnesty International. Again, that
Speaker 1: doesn't exactly come as a shock to me. But okay,
Speaker 1: so these two dudes were arrested in Greece and in Crete,
Speaker 1: or Greece and Cyprus. I know people are to the
Speaker 1: people of those nations that may be listening, listen. I
Speaker 1: don't know where you draw your dividing lines. I'm just
Speaker 1: reading the report. But we now have two guys that
Speaker 1: were spying allegedly on behalf of Iran, waiting to do
Speaker 1: some sort of a terrorist attack or some type of attack, which, okay,
Speaker 1: this all checks out to me. I don't know what
Speaker 1: Iran thinks they'll be able to do right now, and
Speaker 1: it's not because they got you know, they got smacked,
Speaker 1: right fine, America may have dropped a handful of bombs,
Speaker 1: Israel jacked up a lot of their military assets and airstrips,
Speaker 1: not all, not all, I understand this, but the vast majority.
Speaker 1: So I don't exactly know what Iran was planning or
Speaker 1: if this was just them trying to get the intel
Speaker 1: in case they saw an opening to shoot their shot.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so they got discovered. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is gonna affect the ceasefire. I don't even
Speaker 1: know if the ceasefire is still currently standing. The last
Speaker 1: report I heard was that there was a very uneasy ceasefire,
Speaker 1: but each side was claiming that the other had already
Speaker 1: broken it. I don't know if it kind of leveled
Speaker 1: off and got peaceful again. If any of y'all know
Speaker 1: anything on that, please speak up on it. I with
Speaker 1: everything going on in America right now, I haven't really
Speaker 1: had much of my attention on Iran and Israel and
Speaker 1: Gaza and all that in the past week or two.
Speaker 1: But anyway, go for it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been pretty quiet. I do try to pay attention,
Speaker 5: and I'm very happy that it has been pretty quiet
Speaker 5: compared to before, aside from a few people getting arrested
Speaker 5: on each side, like you're talking about right now.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean that's expected, right, spies and these types
Speaker 1: of things. This happens. This is another day at the
Speaker 1: office for the Intel groups. But okay, so the ceasefire
Speaker 1: has of now is still holding.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yemen has blown up a couple of cargo ships
Speaker 5: in the Red Sea.
Speaker 1: Who's cargo ships?
Speaker 5: One of them belonged to Greece, let's see, I looked
Speaker 5: them up earlier. But yeah, there are any ship that's
Speaker 5: trading with Israel. They're threatening it ships that are going
Speaker 5: you know, they let other ships through, just not those.
Speaker 1: This checks out, of course. Okay, so they haven't touched
Speaker 1: America's boats though, So no, they haven't good things. Good things.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want them touching any boats, don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong. But also really not trying to go
Speaker 1: to war with hoothy rebel. Over this foolishness, all right,
Speaker 1: now moving on two more American conversations. There was an
Speaker 1: incident that took place where a sniper started a fire
Speaker 1: so that when the firefighters pulled up, he could start
Speaker 1: shooting at them. He was killed. Let's learn about this.
Speaker 1: This is from USA today. Sniper found dead after killing
Speaker 1: two firefighters in an ambush attack on Idaho Mountain. Two
Speaker 1: firefighters were killed and residents were ordered to shelter in place,
Speaker 1: but the order was lifted after police found a dead
Speaker 1: man in the woods. A sniper in Idaho started a
Speaker 1: blaze and fatally shot two responding firefighters in an ambush
Speaker 1: attack before being found dead hours later. The discovery of
Speaker 1: the body on Canefield Mountain, a popular hiking destination outside
Speaker 1: the city of Cord'alene Cordeline accumulated six hours of frenzied
Speaker 1: activity that saw around three hundred local, state, and federal
Speaker 1: officers flocked to the area. It began with the suspects,
Speaker 1: not yet been identified by police, lighting an early afternoon
Speaker 1: fire and then shooting the first responders who came to
Speaker 1: put it out. A third firefighter was also shot, but
Speaker 1: underwent surgery and is in stable condition. Utaney Kutinae coutinay
Speaker 1: kut and I I don't know, County Sheriff Bob Norris
Speaker 1: said at the news conference. This was a total Ambulshy
Speaker 1: told reporters these firefighters did not have a chance, which,
Speaker 1: to be fair, most firefighters are not carrying weapons when
Speaker 1: they respond to the scene of a fire. So this
Speaker 1: was absolutely he was doing this just to try to
Speaker 1: have a couple bodies drop. He was a psycho. Authorities
Speaker 1: found the shooter's body in a nearby firearm using cell
Speaker 1: phone location data. Norris said it's unclear how the suspect died,
Speaker 1: but Norris said law enforcement responding to the shooting had
Speaker 1: exchanged gunfire with him. I don't know, but it sounds
Speaker 1: like that might be his cause of death. Maybe not.
Speaker 1: Maybe he offed himself when he realized the jig was up,
Speaker 1: but also if there was a gun fight between him
Speaker 1: and law enforcement and then they found his body with
Speaker 1: a bullet in it, I okay. As investigator search for
Speaker 1: these shooter's motives, firefighters have resumed battling the blaze, which
Speaker 1: had grown to twenty acres by late Sunday night. Firefighters
Speaker 1: will work through the night to contain the fire before
Speaker 1: investigators conduct a more thorough search of the area. Nor
Speaker 1: said he believes more weapons will be found in the
Speaker 1: mountain terrain. Today is a day that will not be
Speaker 1: forgot in this community. Bruce Mattair, chairman of the Kutine
Speaker 1: County Board of Commissioners, said at the news conference, it
Speaker 1: is a day the evil showed its face and we
Speaker 1: lost two outstanding professionals of the highest quality. The timeline
Speaker 1: of the Canefield Mountain attack. At one twenty one pm
Speaker 1: local time, emergency dispatcher's received a phone call reporting a
Speaker 1: fire on the east side of Canfield Mountain or Canfield.
Speaker 1: Norris said. The caller did not reveal his name and
Speaker 1: is not believed to be the gunman. Firefighters arrived on
Speaker 1: the scene and at two pm firefighters broadcast that there
Speaker 1: were shots fired. Hundreds of law enforcement agents responded to
Speaker 1: the scene of the shooting. Officers exchanged gunfire with the suspect.
Speaker 1: Investigators use a cell phone to track the location to
Speaker 1: a signal on Caingfill Mountain that had not moved since
Speaker 1: three sixteen pm. Authorities honed in on the location and
Speaker 1: discovered a man who they believed to be the suspect.
Speaker 1: Just after seven forty pm, the Sheriff's office announced that
Speaker 1: a man had been found dead and lifted the shelter
Speaker 1: in place order. Now what do we know about the firefighters?
Speaker 1: Authorities did not publicly identify the firefighters killed and injured
Speaker 1: in the attack, nor supported that one of the same
Speaker 1: firefighters worked for the Kutene County Fire and Rescue the
Speaker 1: other work for the cord Delaine Fire Department. The firefighter
Speaker 1: who was injured in the shooting also worked for the
Speaker 1: Coupdalene Fire Department. A procession was held for the firefighters
Speaker 1: Sunday night. Law enforcement swarms beautiful corner of the world.
Speaker 1: Nancy Murrain, a longtime resident of Cordeline, said her quiet
Speaker 1: neighborhood was swarming with law enforcement as officers responded to
Speaker 1: the deadly attack marine, who frequently hikes the Canefield Mountain trail,
Speaker 1: said the helicopters for hours circled over the heavily forested
Speaker 1: area and a vast amount of law enforcement were on
Speaker 1: the ground. She said, we have a beautiful corner of
Speaker 1: the world right here. It's nice and peaceful. She said
Speaker 1: that she stopped hearing the helicopters around the time the
Speaker 1: law enforcement lifted the shelter in place, and said a
Speaker 1: man was found dead on the mountain. She also hope's
Speaker 1: authorities will be able to concentrate on the fire, which
Speaker 1: officials said was still burning and at risk of expanding.
Speaker 1: Her backyard is at the bottom of the mountain, and
Speaker 1: she said that her husband will water their yard to
Speaker 1: prevent the fire from affecting them. So the two firefighters
Speaker 1: that were killed and third injured, they just pretty much
Speaker 1: go into the official report of how it all took
Speaker 1: down here. The FBI tactical teams responded to the shooting.
Speaker 1: FBI Director Dan Bongino said in a post on x
Speaker 1: that tactical tactical teams have responded to the scene of
Speaker 1: the shooting. It remains an active and very dangerous scene,
Speaker 1: he said. Sandra Barker, an FBI regional spokesperson, told USA
Speaker 1: Today in a statement that at this time I can
Speaker 1: confirm the Salt Lake City Field Office, which covers Idaho,
Speaker 1: is providing assistance. She was referring them to the Sheriff's
Speaker 1: office for more information. Attorney General Pambondi ordered prayers as
Speaker 1: federal and local authorities responded to the attack. She made
Speaker 1: a post on X basically saying thank you to the
Speaker 1: incredible agents and we are all praying for you. Secretary
Speaker 1: of Homeland Security Christy Nome said in a post on
Speaker 1: X that the federal agency was actively monitoring the scene.
Speaker 1: Pray for Idaho's first responders. So at Sanamahaws is a
Speaker 1: great place for hikers, is a great destination. US Senator
Speaker 1: for Idaho. Watching the situation, he says, I am monitoring,
Speaker 1: monitoring the horrific reports out of Cordelin this evening. I
Speaker 1: urged local residents to follow recommendations of law enforcements. All
Speaker 1: the things with the attacks now, how big is the fire?
Speaker 1: Authorities said that the blaze started out as a half
Speaker 1: acre wildfire. Three fire engines were dispatched to the scene
Speaker 1: around one point thirty PM, and officials said, The fire
Speaker 1: continued to blaze as authorities attempted to locate the potential shooter.
Speaker 1: So this is a little over a week old, and
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, they got the fire put out
Speaker 1: and everything like that. But as we were talking about
Speaker 1: news going on in America, I figured it was only
Speaker 1: right that we give these fallen firefighters their credit. It
Speaker 1: it's crazy to me that people are losing their minds
Speaker 1: to that level, and I mean starting a fire, being
Speaker 1: doing arson for the sake of trying to drop first responders.
Speaker 1: And at the same time, we have flooding in other
Speaker 1: states and some of these I didn't realize it was
Speaker 1: like this. I had heard some things about the Texas flood,
Speaker 1: which we're about to talk about. I didn't realize there
Speaker 1: were more states that were seeing flooding at this moment.
Speaker 1: So this is still ongoing. This is from Fox News.
Speaker 1: Texas flood kills more than one hundred as the search
Speaker 1: continues for dozens of people. Let's see, that's a quote
Speaker 1: from Governor Abbot. That's fine, let's see here. Governor Abbot
Speaker 1: announced Monday that additional state emergency response resources have been activated,
Speaker 1: as he vows that Texas will remain engaged in every
Speaker 1: missing person until every missing person is found and every
Speaker 1: Texan recovers from this disaster. Yeah. Absolutely, yeah, we might
Speaker 1: as well just read that. There is still a thread
Speaker 1: of heavy rain with the potential to cause flooding in
Speaker 1: central Texas Hill Country, Big Country, and Concho Valley regions.
Speaker 1: He continued. Texans are urged to remain weather aware. He
Speaker 1: the guidance of local officials and regularly monitor weather forecast.
Speaker 1: Texas will remain engaged until every missing person has found,
Speaker 1: every Texan recovers from the disaster. Under the Governor's direction,
Speaker 1: the Texas State Operations Center remains at a Level two
Speaker 1: escalator response to support requests for assistance from local officials
Speaker 1: as they continue to respond to the rainfall and flooding
Speaker 1: that is still impacting the state. The state has deployed
Speaker 1: more than seventeen hundred personnel and more than nine hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy five vehicles and equipment assets to respond to
Speaker 1: the flooding. The Governor's office said more than twenty state
Speaker 1: agencies are responding to the flood threats across the state.
Speaker 1: State emergency response resources that remain available to local support
Speaker 1: emergency response efforts include the Texas Division of Emergency Management,
Speaker 1: Texas A and M engine in Texas A and M
Speaker 1: Engineering Extension Service. God, I don't know why that one
Speaker 1: tongue tied me Texas Parks and Wildlife Department, Texas Department
Speaker 1: of Public Safety, Texas National Guard, as well as fifteen others. Now, Tony,
Speaker 1: you are currently living in the Texas area. Has this
Speaker 1: affected you in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 5: Not a huge amount. But it is way rainier than
Speaker 5: it has been any of the other five years I've
Speaker 5: ever lived here. So normally the Fourth of July is
Speaker 5: dry and hot, and it's been very rainy in the
Speaker 5: Dallas area. And I just got to drive through Louisiana
Speaker 5: and Houston area and almost San Antonio earlier this week
Speaker 5: and there was lots of rain everywhere, And this is
Speaker 5: this is kind of unusual. And one thing about this
Speaker 5: Curveville place is that it's far enough west. It's significantly
Speaker 5: west of San Antonio, and normally that part of Texas
Speaker 5: gets way less rainfall than the east. So yeah, overall,
Speaker 5: it's pretty surprising. When I grew up in California, we'd
Speaker 5: call this El Nino. I don't know if most of
Speaker 5: the rest of the country's heard of this, but it's
Speaker 5: how you know, once every ten years they get way
Speaker 5: way more rain than usual. Maybe that happens here too,
Speaker 5: but yeah, it was way more than normally. It was
Speaker 5: like fifteen inches in one day up there, and a
Speaker 5: bunch of people died. What's the death count? I think
Speaker 5: I heard one hundred.
Speaker 1: It's over one hundred, and I don't know what the
Speaker 1: as of the moment reports are saying, but I do
Speaker 1: know there is over one hundred dead, and I want
Speaker 1: to say one hundred and seventy five that have been
Speaker 1: either missing. Yeah, one hundred and seventy five missing. And
Speaker 1: I don't even know if they know the number of
Speaker 1: displaced individuals as of this moment. So it's yeah, And
Speaker 1: it was a crazy rate, like it was fifteen inches
Speaker 1: in how long.
Speaker 5: I heard it was in a day the fourth of July,
Speaker 5: because I remember waking up the next day to all
Speaker 5: the news about it.
Speaker 1: We were talking about this on the Cult Live last night,
Speaker 1: and somebody remind me on the rates here it rose
Speaker 1: like how many feet in like fifteen minutes or something
Speaker 1: crazy like this. Basically, there was no way for people
Speaker 1: to prepare and get out of Harm's way on this one.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's absolutely insane.
Speaker 5: Now I have also talking about This is just a
Speaker 5: personal anecdote, but my daughter's birthday was like two weeks
Speaker 5: before the end of June, and she got a rain
Speaker 5: gauge for her birthday. And I thought, oh, well, we're
Speaker 5: not going to get to use this until next winter,
Speaker 5: but thanks for the rain gauge. Yeah, well now I
Speaker 5: guess we do get to use it.
Speaker 1: Wow, that was kind of a brutal irony gift actually,
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, I'm I'm it was somebody remind me
Speaker 1: of how many feet it was in like fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: or something like that. It was crazy. But and you said,
Speaker 1: this town is even more west than San Antonio.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's significantly west, north and west of San Antonio.
Speaker 5: And that part of Texas is normally pretty dry. It's
Speaker 5: like the farther west you go. Yeah, the farther west
Speaker 5: you go, the dryer it gets, the more stereotypical it gets.
Speaker 5: It's it gets to be like New Mexico. But you
Speaker 5: never know, it can it can rain like crazy from
Speaker 5: time to time. Remember a year or two ago, there
Speaker 5: was the music festival in Nevada that got uh it
Speaker 5: was like an El Nino year, and I think it
Speaker 5: was Coachella or something something like that, this big music
Speaker 5: festival got rid of really flooded, because that just happens
Speaker 5: every once in a while and the soil cannot take it.
Speaker 1: I heard that happen at burning Man a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago too, Like the entire desert just became like
Speaker 1: slop and quicksand kind of situation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was it. Burning Man. Yeah, in Texas and
Speaker 5: Florida lead the country. And drownings too.
Speaker 1: By the way, I did Florida, I can understand Texas.
Speaker 5: Yeah, apparently, I just heard that earlier today. I was
Speaker 5: listening to another podcast. We got talking about how his
Speaker 5: son drowned and almost died and the hospital wanted to
Speaker 5: kill him, but he this is a tangent, but they
Speaker 5: kept him alive for thirty seven days and then put
Speaker 5: him in a hyperbarrack chamber and he came back like
Speaker 5: ninety nine percent, even after being almost like brain dead
Speaker 5: for thirty seven days. And the hospital was ready to
Speaker 5: harvest his organs right away. They were really trying to
Speaker 5: prep him to just say goodbye. But the guy he
Speaker 5: pushed and he got a sun back and he started
Speaker 5: a website to help other families go and through that
Speaker 5: called drowned Child dot orger Drownedbaby dot org. So I
Speaker 5: went to the website and educated myself a little bit.
Speaker 5: Maybe everyone should do that because it's the leading cause
Speaker 5: of death for kids under like four.
Speaker 1: Jesus see, I just had my son in swim lessons,
Speaker 1: and I mean for that reason specifically, it's like survival
Speaker 1: swimming that he's doing stuff. But like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I didn't know Texas led the nation on that one.
Speaker 1: That's a new information for me.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think I was from Texas, but the hyperbaric
Speaker 5: chamber was in New Orleans, so he had to make
Speaker 5: that trip. I don't know where exactly in Texas he
Speaker 5: was from, but as you know, that's a few hundred miles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a little bit. Unless I just have a
Speaker 1: hard time believing that they didn't have some sort of
Speaker 1: facility with that type of equipment in Texas. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there was a real logical reason why they
Speaker 1: did that. I don't know, but a couple of quick.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they just they just go on a procedure and
Speaker 5: if a drowned kid comes in, they go well, this
Speaker 5: is what we do, and you know, just say goodbye.
Speaker 5: And it was only because this guy had experience as
Speaker 5: a diver that he knew that this therapy even existed.
Speaker 5: But it didn't even exist in Texas. So thirty seven
Speaker 5: days in he got his son transported to the New
Speaker 5: Orleans and the sun recovered.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, hyperbaric therapy was what it was.
Speaker 1: That is incredible and also terrifying. Home. God. So some
Speaker 1: fast facts about the Texas flooding here. It says at
Speaker 1: least one hundred and four people were killed in central
Speaker 1: Texas in a flash flooding that began early on the
Speaker 1: morning of the fourth of July Camp Mystic and I
Speaker 1: I had an article pulled up to show all of
Speaker 1: the young ladies and girls that were killed at Camp Mystic.
Speaker 1: It is heartbreaking and I didn't want to go through
Speaker 1: it all because it was like talking about these girls
Speaker 1: and where they're from and there are dreams that won't
Speaker 1: be realized now and all this, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's god awful. I feel horrible. Thoughts and prayers go
Speaker 1: out to those families, obviously, But it says Camp Missick
Speaker 1: in Hunt, Texas says it's morning the loss of twenty
Speaker 1: seven campers and councilors. As of this afternoon, ten campers
Speaker 1: and one councilor remain missing. The National Weather Service issue
Speaker 1: multiple flash flood warnings on Monday for counties in central Texas.
Speaker 1: Wow all right, says the Houston Astros pledged a million
Speaker 1: dollars to aid with the relief efforts. Good on you
Speaker 1: Astros for that. That's nice, says Louisiana governor announces water
Speaker 1: rescue team has been deployed to Texas to support the
Speaker 1: flood response. Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry said Monday that his
Speaker 1: state sent a team to Texas to support search efforts
Speaker 1: amid devastating flooding in the Lone Star state. The Louisiana
Speaker 1: crew is off to Texas to assist with search efforts
Speaker 1: after the tragic flood. There are fourteen Louisiana Swift Water
Speaker 1: Rescue personnel total with equipment GOHSEP remains in contact. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Remains in contact with Texas to see
Speaker 1: how else Louisiana can support. The governor added, Please continue
Speaker 1: to pray for all those affected and our great neighbors
Speaker 1: in Texas Colorado Governor Paulus says state is ready and
Speaker 1: willing to assist Texas in flood response. He put up
Speaker 1: a post on ex Colorado's will always step up to
Speaker 1: help our neighbors. We are sending love and support to
Speaker 1: Texas during this devastating and difficult time. Our state is
Speaker 1: ready and willing to provide any resources to assist Texas
Speaker 1: with search and recovery. Colorado has face natural disasters absolutely.
Speaker 1: Let's see net and Yahoo old bb net and Yahoo
Speaker 1: has weighed in, says he is praying for Texas amid flooding.
Speaker 1: Israel knows disaster. My wife Sarah and I all and
Speaker 1: all of Israel are praying for the great state of Texas.
Speaker 1: Israel knows disaster. We've lived through war, fire and flood.
Speaker 1: Dear friends, we stand with you. Okay. Quite a move
Speaker 1: for bb to step up and speak on this one.
Speaker 1: Arizona governor says, as hard as with the people of Texas.
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom, Oh, this guy announced deployment of search and
Speaker 1: rescue teams to Texas amid devastating flood. Now I do
Speaker 1: not like Gavin Newsom at all, but also I mean
Speaker 1: good on them for sending a team to help Out
Speaker 1: is a post on yeah ex California is deploying skilled
Speaker 1: urban search and Rescue team members to support those facing
Speaker 1: devastating floods in Texas. We grieve for the Texans who've
Speaker 1: lost loved ones, homes and livelihoods. Energy Secretary says his
Speaker 1: heart goes out to the families affected by the flood.
Speaker 1: This is Secretary Chris Wright. Believe that's Energy Secretary for
Speaker 1: the entirety of the United States. My heart goes out
Speaker 1: to the families and communities impacted by this devastating loss.
Speaker 1: Liz and I pray for Texas As. Rescue and recovery
Speaker 1: efforts continue for those still missing, and we thank our
Speaker 1: first responders for their tireless service to our nation's time
Speaker 1: of need. Let's see restaurant. There's Texas restaurants that are
Speaker 1: feeding the people that are displaced in need food. Drone
Speaker 1: crashes into helicopter aiding in tech his flood recovery efforts.
Speaker 1: City officials warned drone operators to ground aircraft during flood
Speaker 1: rescue operations after an illegal flight caused a helicopter collision
Speaker 1: and emergency landing in Kerr County restricted airspace. They said
Speaker 1: all bold letters here. Please ground your drones until current
Speaker 1: flood search and rescue operations are complete. This afternoon, a
Speaker 1: private drone illegally operating in restricted airspace colliding with the
Speaker 1: helicopter involved in emergency operations. Okay, so that's absolutely I mean, wow,
Speaker 1: let's see. Yeah, it's basically just going down the list
Speaker 1: of things. Let's see here, this is a quick little video.
Speaker 6: Let's bring in Kelly Raybon, who's two boys escaped the
Speaker 6: flooding from another camp about six miles north of camp
Speaker 6: missed it, Kelly, thank you for being with us, can't
Speaker 6: you're probably still shaking from all of this. I can't
Speaker 6: even imagine what this was like. Give us a sense
Speaker 6: of the story as you started to understand that something
Speaker 6: was going on on the river along where all of
Speaker 6: these camps are.
Speaker 4: Of course, so on July fourth, we received a text
Speaker 4: that was sent out to all of the parents that
Speaker 4: said that they had sustained high waters overnight. But you
Speaker 4: know that they were trying to keep the campers safe
Speaker 4: as best as possible. And at that point, you know,
Speaker 4: you think, okay, well, maybe there's just a lot of rain.
Speaker 4: But once I turned on the news and I live
Speaker 4: in Houston, and so that's four hours away from me,
Speaker 4: so I had to I had to really work to
Speaker 4: find more information out. But once I saw this statement
Speaker 4: from Camp Mystic that you know, if you're if your
Speaker 4: daughter is okay, if you've not been notified yet, I thought,
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, this is far more serious than that
Speaker 4: initial text message would have led me to believe. And
Speaker 4: then within a couple of hours I decided I needed
Speaker 4: to get in the car and go, you know, a
Speaker 4: mom on a mission to get to my kids.
Speaker 6: So I know your sons talked about it. Tell us
Speaker 6: how old your boys are and their names. I know
Speaker 6: that you know they've had an off of talking about this.
Speaker 6: I completely understand. But can you tell us what they
Speaker 6: said about what happened and what they remember.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 4: So, Brandon, my nine year old, this was his third
Speaker 4: year to attend Camp la Hunt and Brock, my just
Speaker 4: now seven year olds, turned seven two weeks ago. This
Speaker 4: was his first time to attend camp, and they'd only
Speaker 4: been there for one full day at this point. They
Speaker 4: arrived late Wednesday afternoon, so one full day there and
Speaker 4: you know what they said was as the water in
Speaker 4: Brock's cabin he was in one of three cabins that
Speaker 4: ended up, you know, underwater and flooding. And as the
Speaker 4: water started to come in, his brave camp counselors, who
Speaker 4: were really just kids themselves, college kids, they encouraged the
Speaker 4: boys to get on the first bunk and then to
Speaker 4: get on the second bunk, and before you know it,
Speaker 4: they were lifting the little boys up to the rafters
Speaker 4: to keep them out of harm's way, as the windows
Speaker 4: were breaking, as the door was coming off, as a
Speaker 4: wall was coming down. I just can't imagine how terrifying
Speaker 4: this was. And it was happening, you know, as there
Speaker 4: was as it was dark, no power, you know, and
Speaker 4: you're so unfamiliar in this situation, how do you ever
Speaker 4: prepare for that?
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're looking at these charts. It rose twenty five
Speaker 6: feet in one hour in the area of Camp Mystic.
Speaker 6: So how high were they on the top? How high
Speaker 6: was the water in the cabin? And then did they
Speaker 6: how did they get out of there?
Speaker 4: So my seven year old rock he said that the
Speaker 4: water was probably he estimated three plus feet in his cabin. Now,
Speaker 4: you know, he is still in a state of shock
Speaker 4: and kind of slowly processing what all he remembers, but
Speaker 4: he remembers it being at least high enough to break
Speaker 4: the window out, and the camp director, Scott bravely came
Speaker 4: at the end to get them out of the cabins,
Speaker 4: pulling them down from the rafters and taking them to safety. Brandon, meanwhile,
Speaker 4: was in a higher elevated cabin, and so his cabin,
Speaker 4: while it didn't receive any water, it took in a
Speaker 4: bunch of boys who were in flooded cabins and then
Speaker 4: you know, they were just left to kind of they
Speaker 4: didn't know what was going on. They just entertained each
Speaker 4: other all day long as best they could.
Speaker 6: So what are your thoughts on this whole thing? You know,
Speaker 6: would you send them back to camp given what happened?
Speaker 6: How do you feel about it?
Speaker 4: I need to think it through, but I can tell
Speaker 4: tell you that great in my older one, with you know,
Speaker 4: two summers of camp under his belt, says in a
Speaker 4: heartbeat he would go back, and he really hopes. One
Speaker 4: of the reasons why they were, you know, have been
Speaker 4: talking about it and we're comfortable with me talking about it,
Speaker 4: is because they wanted to represent the pride that they
Speaker 4: have in camp. Law Hunter and I remember as a
Speaker 4: child the hill country camps that I attended, what a
Speaker 4: difference it made for me. And so I mean, as
Speaker 4: as this is a massive tragedy, but as with tragedies,
Speaker 4: hopefully we learn major, major lessons from this. And so
Speaker 4: you know, I'm just so hopeful that we can really
Speaker 4: take a hard look at at what went wrong and why.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm so twenty five feet in one hour. That
Speaker 1: is terrifying, Oh my god. And then we look down here,
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to I'm not trying to use
Speaker 1: this to politicize anything, but apparently some people are white
Speaker 1: house fires back at depraved dooms, using deadly flood to
Speaker 1: target Trump. This is only a minute and a half.
Speaker 1: I'm very curious what they're gonna say in response to this,
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's clearly Trump's fault that floods happened. Let's see, in.
Speaker 7: The wake of this once in a generation natural disaster,
Speaker 7: we have seen many falsehoods pushed by Democrats such as
Speaker 7: Senator Chuck Schumer and some members of the media. Blaming
Speaker 7: President Trump for these floods is a depraved lie and
Speaker 7: it serves no purpose during this time of national mourning.
Speaker 7: Here are the facts and the lead up to this
Speaker 7: tragic natural disaster. The National Weather Service did its job.
Speaker 7: Despite unprecedented rainfall, the National Weather Service executed timely and
Speaker 7: precise forecasts and warnings. On July third, the National Weather
Speaker 7: Service Office and awsometon San Antonio, Texas, conducted forecast briefings
Speaker 7: for emergency management in the morning and issued a floodwatch
Speaker 7: in the early afternoon. Flash flood warnings were also issued
Speaker 7: on the night of July third and in the early
Speaker 7: morning of July fourth, giving preliminary lead times of more
Speaker 7: than three hours before flash flooding conditions occurred. In The
Speaker 7: National Weather Service Office in New Brunfels, which delivers forecasts
Speaker 7: for Austin, San Antonio and the surrounding areas, had extra
Speaker 7: staff on duty during the storms, despite claims of the contrary.
Speaker 7: So to any person who has deliberately lied about these
Speaker 7: facts surrounding this catastrophic event, you should be deeply ashamed.
Speaker 7: At this time, the administration's focus will be giving on
Speaker 7: giving the victims in their communities the support they deserve
Speaker 7: during these recovery efforts. In this tragic time. May God
Speaker 7: bless the great people of Texas, especially the parents who
Speaker 7: have lost their children.
Speaker 1: So real quick whenever the fires took place in LA
Speaker 1: people were pointing the finger at Newsome. There was a
Speaker 1: reason for that. Yes, he may not have started the fires,
Speaker 1: and I am still the belief that that was way
Speaker 1: more planned than what we were led to believe, especially
Speaker 1: when you can look from an aerial view and see
Speaker 1: that all three of the initial fires were started at
Speaker 1: the exact same time at different points of the city.
Speaker 1: But either way, he is the one who drained the
Speaker 1: water reservoir that was supposed to be used in case
Speaker 1: of emergency to save some sort of fish population or
Speaker 1: something like that. I don't know, but there's a reason
Speaker 1: why the finger was pointed at him. I can't imagine
Speaker 1: a world where Trump is getting targeted by Democrats for
Speaker 1: this being his fault or something like that. Although yes,
Speaker 1: he did just cut funding to FEMA. Okay, fine, he
Speaker 1: didn't cut it entirely. There was still a pretty sizable
Speaker 1: amount of relief effort and staff within FEMA that can
Speaker 1: go to work to save these people and help them
Speaker 1: out this time. But even still, twenty five feet in
Speaker 1: one hour, how how is that Trump's fault? Although yes,
Speaker 1: there are people of the conspiratorial world of which I
Speaker 1: am a part of I don't necessarily believe in what
Speaker 1: I'm about to say, but I do consider myself a
Speaker 1: decent conspiracy theorist who believe that this was all a
Speaker 1: part of a government agenda and over cloud seating to
Speaker 1: flood these areas. I don't know all the facts on it,
Speaker 1: so I can't speak intelligently enough on this. We do
Speaker 1: know the cloud seating is a thing. We do understand
Speaker 1: that they do make it rain, and we understand that
Speaker 1: sometimes they oversaturate an area and cause flooding like this.
Speaker 1: I'm not denying any of those things. I just can't
Speaker 1: speak with any kind of real authority on whether this
Speaker 1: is one of those situations or not. Now moving on
Speaker 1: to the next one, Texas is not the only state
Speaker 1: experiencing flooding in the United States as of this morning
Speaker 1: or as of this moment. New Mexico flash flooding kills
Speaker 1: at least three, including two young children. Video shows floodwaters
Speaker 1: carrying away a house. This is from CBS News as
Speaker 1: a matter of fact. Yeah, okay, so this is the
Speaker 1: video of the house being washed away.
Speaker 8: Oh, are also dealing with the aftermath of deadly meantime
Speaker 8: in New Mexico, People living in the mountain community of
Speaker 8: Ruidoso are also dealing with the aftermath of deadly flash floods.
Speaker 8: At least one home washed away in heavy rainfall yesterday,
Speaker 8: and three people were killed, including two children. Emergency crews
Speaker 8: rescue dozens of people trapped in their homes or caught
Speaker 8: in fast moving waters. Officials urged residents to seek higher
Speaker 8: ground ahead of those storms, and they say many people
Speaker 8: did heed those warnings, which saved lives. Now, this same
Speaker 8: community in New Mexico dealt with devastating what wildfires last year,
Speaker 8: which factored into what happened this week. CBS News National
Speaker 8: correspondent Carter Evans joined us from Los Angeles with more
Speaker 8: on this, and Carter, can you give us an update
Speaker 8: on what's happening on the ground right now?
Speaker 9: Okay, so right now, the good news is the water
Speaker 9: has receded. The floodwater has receded. But this it happened
Speaker 9: kind of late in the afternoon yesterday and the floodwater
Speaker 9: rose so quickly. I think that warning came in at
Speaker 9: around three pm local time, and within an hour the
Speaker 9: river there, the Rio Ruidoso, had risen from two feet
Speaker 9: to twenty feet. That was a record record level. So
Speaker 9: today they are searching for people in areas that they
Speaker 9: could not get to last night after darkfell. But right
Speaker 9: now we don't believe any other people are missing. At
Speaker 9: least no people have been reported missing. They're just checking
Speaker 9: to make sure no one else has gone missing.
Speaker 8: And Carter residents responding to warnings there to seek higher ground.
Speaker 8: That's been credited with saving lives out there. What kind
Speaker 8: of warning system is in place there and especially noteworthy
Speaker 8: given what's happening in Texas well.
Speaker 9: Interesting, you know you mentioned this fire that they had
Speaker 9: last year in twenty twenty four. They do have an
Speaker 9: emergency system there in the town of Ridoso. It has
Speaker 9: sirens on it, but apparently a few of those were
Speaker 9: burned down during the fire, and that system has not
Speaker 9: been rebuilt entirely, though they are discussing plans to rebuild
Speaker 9: it and upgrade it so they can get warnings out quickly.
Speaker 9: But as I said, this first warning came out at
Speaker 9: around three pm yesterday afternoon, and this was one of
Speaker 9: the most serious warnings that the National Weather Service can give.
Speaker 9: It was a flash flood emergency in all capitals. They
Speaker 9: were telling people to seek higher ground, that word got
Speaker 9: out very quickly. You have seen this video that we're
Speaker 9: looking at now. It is just intense. We had rushing
Speaker 9: rivers of water in the streets. You saw that house
Speaker 9: floating down a road. Intense intense water in just a
Speaker 9: matter of hours.
Speaker 8: And Carter, we've been talking about that wildfire from last year.
Speaker 8: How did burn scars from that fire player role in
Speaker 8: the severity of the of these floods.
Speaker 9: You know, this is something that we have to worry
Speaker 9: about after all wildfires, especially these very hot wildfires that
Speaker 9: basically scorch everything. And that's what happened in this case.
Speaker 9: And when you look at these hillsides now they're bare.
Speaker 9: There's just a couple of twigs, The trees are gone,
Speaker 9: the brush is gone. There's nothing there to hold the
Speaker 9: dirt in place except for this crust that forms from
Speaker 9: the top layer.
Speaker 5: Of dirt after a wildfire.
Speaker 9: And that crust can sometimes feed hydrophobic, meaning that it
Speaker 9: repels water. So when you get a bunch of rain
Speaker 9: really quickly in a concentrated area, it just rolls right
Speaker 9: off the top of that soil and starts picking up
Speaker 9: speed and debris as it goes downhill. And that's what
Speaker 9: happened yesterday in Ruidoso.
Speaker 1: So went from two feet to twenty feet in an hour,
Speaker 1: eighteen foot in an hour. Jesus, Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk, We're gonna read the article here. Flash
Speaker 1: flooding from torrential rain hit Ruidoso, New Mexico, killing at
Speaker 1: least three people and prompting dozens of rescue. Officials say
Speaker 1: a house was even being carried downstream. We just watched
Speaker 1: the video from that, the mayor, Len Crawford said during
Speaker 1: a news conference. When the victims were a four year
Speaker 1: old girl, a seven year old boy, in an unidentified
Speaker 1: man who was approximately forty to fifty years old. Crawford
Speaker 1: didn't release the children's identities, saying it was out of
Speaker 1: respect for their families. The roy Doso Police Chief, Stephen Miner,
Speaker 1: said the children were related. I would assume so. The
Speaker 1: three victims were reported missing from an RV park and
Speaker 1: their remains are found downstream between a quarter mile and
Speaker 1: two miles away. Authorities are trying to track down one
Speaker 1: person who was unaccounted for. Three other people were taken
Speaker 1: to a hospital for treatment and were in stable condition.
Speaker 1: Approximately sixty five swift water rescues were carried out during
Speaker 1: the flooding. The mayor said, we had people in trees,
Speaker 1: we had people in the water, people just trapped in
Speaker 1: houses and with water coming into them. The fire chief
Speaker 1: Cad Hall said, you name it, we were having to
Speaker 1: address it. Officials were monitoring weather conditions Wednesday for additional threats.
Speaker 1: The roy Deso emergency manager Eric Kuyler quealer, I don't know,
Speaker 1: tell reporters. A preliminary assessment found that at least thirty
Speaker 1: five to fifty homes were damaged or lost in the flooding.
Speaker 1: So the flooding right here, if we're looking at the
Speaker 1: map again, for anybody listening, I would like to see this.
Speaker 1: Come check out the Cajun Night on Patreon Lincoln. The
Speaker 1: description below This is on the Ridoso River, which I'm
Speaker 1: not if I'm not mistaken, is a tributary of the
Speaker 1: Rio Grande. I might be wrong on that. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but the Ruidoso. The town is located in the southern
Speaker 1: New Mexico area. The mountain village is located about a
Speaker 1: three hour drive southeast of Albutquerque. Wow. New Mexico Governor
Speaker 1: Michelle Luhan Grisham said in a statement Tuesday night that
Speaker 1: she had signed an emergency declaration request to get federal
Speaker 1: response teams and repair resources on the ground immediately. We're
Speaker 1: encouraged that additional federal resources are already on the way.
Speaker 1: The Democrats said, why do they have to mention her
Speaker 1: political party? Why did that need to be in the list?
Speaker 1: No one asked that at this time. But okay, the
Speaker 1: New Mexico is mobilizing every resource we have, but ruy
Speaker 1: Doso needs federal support to recover from this disaster. We've
Speaker 1: watched Texas receive the federal resources they desperately needed, and
Speaker 1: roy Doso deserves the same urgent response. The roy Doso River,
Speaker 1: the ruy Rio Riodoso. I'm probably mispronouncing these words. My apologies.
Speaker 1: A river in Lincoln County rose to a record breaking
Speaker 1: twenty feet, five feet higher than the previous high water
Speaker 1: mark the village, said. CBS meteorologist Nikki Nolan noted that
Speaker 1: one river gauge water levels leaped almost nineteen feet in
Speaker 1: a mere half hour. Y'all nineteen feet in thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: That is absurd, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said
Speaker 1: in a statement Tuesday night, that the National Weather Service
Speaker 1: issued a floodwatch for the south Central Mountains, including Rodoso
Speaker 1: at two forty six am Mountain time. That warning was
Speaker 1: to be in effect from noon until eight pm local time.
Speaker 1: They said flash flood warning was issued for the South
Speaker 1: Fork Burn Scar in Lincoln County, New Mexico at two
Speaker 1: twelve and included a considerable flooding tag, which INAA said
Speaker 1: automatically triggers a wireless emergency alert to be issued for
Speaker 1: the warned area. They said the warning was upgraded to
Speaker 1: a flash flood emergency about thirty minutes later. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: bet it was. Crawford said on Wednesday that a wireless
Speaker 1: emergency alert warning people to get to higher ground was
Speaker 1: issued at one fifty eight pm for one area, and
Speaker 1: another issued for two other areas at two nineteen pm.
Speaker 1: An outdoor warning system was activated because it's reserved for
Speaker 1: full town evacuations. She said the localized nature of yesterday's
Speaker 1: flood did not warrant the full talent evacuation. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a true statement or not.
Speaker 1: Twenty feet in an hour is I don't know to
Speaker 1: what level that does require, but okay, I'm sure they
Speaker 1: did what they could on this one. We had public works,
Speaker 1: we had fire, we had police, we had parks and
Speaker 1: wreck folks going along the Rio Ridoso and evacuating communities
Speaker 1: as the wall of water was headed this way. Emergency
Speaker 1: warnings have emerged as a point of contention in the
Speaker 1: Texas flash flooding. The video post on social media shows
Speaker 1: a fast moving water carrying a home down river. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the home we watched. Carpenter whose art studio was
Speaker 1: swept away during the flash flood last year, told the
Speaker 1: Associated Press that she was riding her motorcycle through town
Speaker 1: Tuesday afternoon when the storm started to pick up and
Speaker 1: she sought shelter at the riverside Downshift Brewing Company with
Speaker 1: dozens of other people. She started to film debris rushing
Speaker 1: down through Roydso when she spotted a house floating by
Speaker 1: with a familiar turquoise door. It belonged to the family
Speaker 1: of one of her best friends.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 1: The woman who actually got the video of the house
Speaker 1: being pushed down the river knew the family that lived there.
Speaker 1: Her friend's family was not in the house and is safe.
Speaker 1: She said, well, that's good. I've been in that house
Speaker 1: and have memories in the house, so seeing it come
Speaker 1: down the river was just pretty heartbreaking. The area around
Speaker 1: the Ry Rio Rio Doso and much of Lincoln were
Speaker 1: sports last year by the wildfires, making the soil unstable
Speaker 1: and more prone to flooding. Two people died in the
Speaker 1: South Fork Consult fires and one hundreds of homes were
Speaker 1: destroyed in June of twenty twenty four. Wow. So again,
Speaker 1: as Texas is getting a lot of eyes on them
Speaker 1: for everything going on, we also need to make sure
Speaker 1: that we are keeping our eyes, our thoughts and prayers
Speaker 1: and send some resources New Mexico's way. And apparently they're
Speaker 1: not the only two states that are experiencing some flooding.
Speaker 1: As we move on to our next topic. Multiple fatalities
Speaker 1: reported in tropical Storm Chantel or Chantel flooding in North Carolina. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and play this little video here. It's
Speaker 1: only thirty seconds thirty six seconds long. Yeah you know what?
Speaker 1: Why not? Tropical Storm Shantel slams North Carolina is from
Speaker 1: USA today Chapel Hill, North Carolina. It drenched the central
Speaker 1: North Carolina, causing severe flooding and submerging cars. The storm
Speaker 1: weakened after making lamb fall, but dropped up to eight
Speaker 1: inches of rain in some areas. WHOA, I know, eight
Speaker 1: inches may not seem like a lot whenever we were
Speaker 1: just reading from the other reports it was twenty feet
Speaker 1: in an hour and stuff. But I mean, especially for
Speaker 1: mountaintowns where that water will pool, eight inches can be
Speaker 1: quite drastic. Three possible tornadoes hit Raleigh and the surrounding areas. Wow,
Speaker 1: look at this. Chantel is expected to move through Virginia
Speaker 1: and West Virginia with more rain ahead. All right, so
Speaker 1: let's pick up with what the article is saying again.
Speaker 1: This is from USA Today. Multiple people died in central
Speaker 1: North Carolina after Tropical Storm Chantel brought a deluge of
Speaker 1: rain and flooding to the area on July sixth, According
Speaker 1: to state officials and local reports, the Raleigh Durham The
Speaker 1: Raleigh Durham area saw nearly twelve inches of rainfall in
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, while neighboring areas reported at least nine inches,
Speaker 1: according to the Asheville Citizen Times. Part of USA Today's
Speaker 1: network of rain caused flooding in several areas, including Almant's, Chatham, More,
Speaker 1: Orange and Person counties. According to Citizen Times, Chantelle was
Speaker 1: downgraded to a tropical depression by July seventh, but was
Speaker 1: still dumping rain across the mid Atlantic. North Carolina Governor
Speaker 1: Josh Stein said at a news conference on July eighth
Speaker 1: that officials from North Carolina Department of Health and Human
Speaker 1: Services were still working to confirm the total number of
Speaker 1: fatalities from the flooding, but that there are a handful
Speaker 1: of reported deaths to date. The NCDHS, that's the Department
Speaker 1: of Human Health and Services, said it does not currently
Speaker 1: have verified information on storm related deaths, but referred to
Speaker 1: USA Today to local law enforcement. The North Carolina Department
Speaker 1: of Emergency Management told the USA Today in a statement
Speaker 1: that the state's emergency response team is aware potential fatalities
Speaker 1: linked to the storm as reported by law enforcement. Okay,
Speaker 1: so they just kind of re confirmed what they just said.
Speaker 1: Now three days in the Chatham County, North Carolina, including
Speaker 1: missing voters in Chatham County, which was just west of Raleigh,
Speaker 1: three people died in flood's, officials confirmed to USA Today.
Speaker 1: Sandra portnoy Hirshman, eighty three years old, of Pittsburgh, North Carolina,
Speaker 1: died around eleven thirty pm local time on July sixth,
Speaker 1: when her car became submerged in water. Steve Newton, Chatham
Speaker 1: County's emerginal Management, told USA Today two individuals who went
Speaker 1: voting on the Jordan Lake around five pm on July
Speaker 1: sixth also died. Newton said one voter was recovered on
Speaker 1: July eighth, while the second individual was found July ninth.
Speaker 1: Both are waiting positive identification from the Medical Examiner's Office.
Speaker 1: Randall Rigsby, Chatham County Sheriff's Office public information officer, told
Speaker 1: USA Today. Orange County, North Carolina woman dies in flood
Speaker 1: while driving to work. Monica Butner was driving to work
Speaker 1: in Hillsboro, North Carolina, on the evening of July sixth,
Speaker 1: when her car got stuck in floodwater. Orange County Sheriff's
Speaker 1: Office told the release. She was fifty eight years old.
Speaker 1: Called nine one one around ten thirty local time amid
Speaker 1: the heavy rainfall, but the call was disconnected. Firefighters soon
Speaker 1: located her unoccupied car. First responders found her dead around
Speaker 1: five pm July seventh. Officials said that she was almost
Speaker 1: completely obscured by falling trees and debris. Approximately one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty yards downstream from her vehicle. Wow, reports are
Speaker 1: saying that more are dead in the North Carolina flood.
Speaker 1: At least two others reportedly died in the flooding. According
Speaker 1: to multiple local reports, a man in Alamance County died
Speaker 1: after his vehicle swept away by floodwaters on July sixth,
Speaker 1: and a twenty three year old woman in Graham was
Speaker 1: also found or Graham, I believe it'd just be Graham
Speaker 1: was also found dead inside her car submerged in water.
Speaker 9: Wow.
Speaker 1: The USA has reached out but has received nothing back.
Speaker 1: Got you, Okay, So everybody there is wild weather things
Speaker 1: that are taking place as of this moment. Right now,
Speaker 1: we do. We have a lot of news going on. Yes,
Speaker 1: the Epstein files, the Diddy case got finished, which I
Speaker 1: still can't believe he didn't get any kind of real
Speaker 1: legal recourse for what happened. But all that to say,
Speaker 1: I just feel like we as Americans have more pressing
Speaker 1: things in our face as of this moment. But let
Speaker 1: me go ahead and check the chat and see what
Speaker 1: y'all have shared as far as things to be brought up.
Speaker 1: Let's see, uh oh Ravenson something. Jeffrey Epstein's secret bank
Speaker 1: account is still moving millions, and no one knows why.
Speaker 1: Now that's interesting Royce is saying. I think something that
Speaker 1: also sucks is the whole Epstein thing is that it's
Speaker 1: a huge more on all the positive things that have
Speaker 1: happened thus far. When you say positive things that have
Speaker 1: happened thus far, what do you mean, Royce?
Speaker 5: I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: The the board of pologies, all of the good thing
Speaker 1: that Trump has done for our country so far, That's
Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, Yeah, it's not a good look,
Speaker 1: don't be wrong. It's just that's kind of a big
Speaker 1: one that a lot of people have had eyes on
Speaker 1: for years now, and for it to just be wrapped
Speaker 1: up and said, yep, all good here, nothing more to
Speaker 1: talk about. It's like, ah, bro, that's just not a
Speaker 1: good look. I agree. Let's see Tony spoke in here
Speaker 1: and says I can't prove it, but I bet some
Speaker 1: of the cartels are supported by the CIA, so we
Speaker 1: will never get rid of them. This is also the
Speaker 1: reason why drugs will never be relegalized. The CIA needs
Speaker 1: to them to be illegal for illegal trade to occur. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I one hundred percent agree with that. As a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, we did an episode on the War on
Speaker 1: drugs not too terribly long ago, and that is confirmed.
Speaker 1: It's not just CIA or FBI or border patrol or
Speaker 1: local and federal politics in general. But there's an absolute
Speaker 1: reason for this. And I mean we can go it
Speaker 1: depends on to what level you really want to go here.
Speaker 1: If you say that the overarching goal is to keep
Speaker 1: prisons occupied, because prisons are privately owned entities. And for
Speaker 1: Pam Bondi, for instance, used to be a lobbyer for
Speaker 1: one of these big private prison conglomerates, right, and now
Speaker 1: she's the attorney general, so that makes sense. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a conspiracy theory on that. One. Another would be
Speaker 1: to say that it is to overall just dumb down America, right,
Speaker 1: And it's kind of a it's a political leg that
Speaker 1: you can pull at any time you need. Some new
Speaker 1: politician comes into office and swears he's going to clean
Speaker 1: up the town, clean up the streets and all these things.
Speaker 1: He makes a couple of big buss a couple of
Speaker 1: big arrests, and the next time he comes up for
Speaker 1: reelection he has that to go off of to say,
Speaker 1: look at all the good that I did. In reality,
Speaker 1: that was just the stuff that was publicized. While he
Speaker 1: allowed like twenty or thirty shipments to come through, he
Speaker 1: only stopped too and made them big. It's it's absolutely
Speaker 1: a political ploy. And yeah, as far as the not
Speaker 1: being able to prove a thing, I mean, honestly, option
Speaker 1: fast and furious that was done under the Obama administration.
Speaker 1: We'll show you that the CIA sold American weapons to
Speaker 1: the cartels. Those American weapons then made it their way
Speaker 1: up back across the border and was used in the
Speaker 1: killing of a California police officer. And they checked the
Speaker 1: SERO numbers and they know for sure that a three
Speaker 1: letter agency of the United States put that weapon into
Speaker 1: the hands of that criminal. So, I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: absolutely confirmed at this point. Let's see here, Yemen has
Speaker 1: sunk a ship called Eternity C. One headline says it's
Speaker 1: the second in a week. Also saw MV Star as
Speaker 1: another cargo ship or Magic Seas. Okay, okay, yeah, so
Speaker 1: Yemen is still doing that. There were the houthies, not Yemen.
Speaker 1: The hoothy rebels are still doing their their thing. Azaris
Speaker 1: are twenty four percent of Iran's population. I am pretty
Speaker 1: sure Mussad Pozeshkin is a Za yeah, no, I mean,
Speaker 1: they absolutely do hold a pretty large chunk of the
Speaker 1: Iranian population. So that's the thing. Whenever we're saying that
Speaker 1: these people were for, they weren't necessarily like doing espionage
Speaker 1: for Azerbaijan. I believe they were probably, I can't say
Speaker 1: for sure, there's still the ongoing investigation, but the two
Speaker 1: gentlemen that were arrested, it would stand to reason that
Speaker 1: they were doing intel things for even if it's not Iran.
Speaker 1: I would say, some type of terrorist organization, and find
Speaker 1: me a Muslim terrorist organization that is not funded and
Speaker 1: supported by Iran. It's very difficult to find that.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe if you go I thought isis was, Oh.
Speaker 5: No, quite the opposite. But anyway, the overall political landscape
Speaker 5: over there, the way most people feel is that Azerbaijan
Speaker 5: and Iran are adversarial towards each other, and Iran is
Speaker 5: most friendly with Armenia, and Azerbaijan is more friendly to
Speaker 5: Kurdistan and to Israel even a little bit. And the
Speaker 5: Kurds they kind of don't get along with anybody really,
Speaker 5: but right except Azerbaijan and Israel a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, from what I've been told, the Kurds are. They
Speaker 1: are Muslim, they are Islamic, but as far as how
Speaker 1: the Sunnis and the Sheaes look at them, they are
Speaker 1: like just one tick above being Jewish.
Speaker 5: From the Yeah, the Kurds, Yeah, they have territory in Turkey, Syria,
Speaker 5: Iraq and Iran. And the one thing that all for
Speaker 5: those country as agree on is they don't like Kurds
Speaker 5: and they don't want them to have an independent country.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well Turkey, I can understand, especially because if
Speaker 1: they were to do that, they would lose a third
Speaker 1: of their voting base Kurds. If I'm not mistaken, like
Speaker 1: the largest per census. You know what I'm saying, Trust
Speaker 1: the senses as much as you want. They have like
Speaker 1: a third of the Lamb mass in Turkey that are
Speaker 1: heavily occupied by the Kurds. And they were talking about
Speaker 1: doing a Kurdistan, like the founding of a Kurdish nation
Speaker 1: that would take a third of Turkey, northern Syria, the
Speaker 1: northwest of Iraq. It's it's none of these countries want
Speaker 1: to lose any land mass, and they absolutely don't want
Speaker 1: to lose a population like that either, even if it's
Speaker 1: a population they can't stand it's still tax revenue, so
Speaker 1: I mean they're not Nobody is going to sign off
Speaker 1: on the Kurdish nation becoming a thing. However, I'm curious
Speaker 1: if this was to take place, would that in fact
Speaker 1: take some heat off of Israel from these nations because
Speaker 1: they would then be fighting after two people that they
Speaker 1: hate or two countries that they hate.
Speaker 5: I don't know, but yes, Israel. Yeah, Israel has a
Speaker 5: reputation for supporting Kurds politically, and getting back to the
Speaker 5: Azari question, Azari's within Iran are largely under suspicion of
Speaker 5: being unpatriotic because Iran and Azerbaijan or adversarial to each other.
Speaker 5: And I think Iran used to own all that territory,
Speaker 5: but the Soviet Union created Azerbaijan in about nineteen twenty,
Speaker 5: and Armenians also resent that too because Azerbaijan And sorry
Speaker 5: did I did I say Georgia or Armenia. I met Armenia, Yeah,
Speaker 5: he said Armenia.
Speaker 1: But they took way from Armenia to make Azerbaijhan, didn't they?
Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe a little bit, but actually more
Speaker 5: recently between twenty twenty and just this past year, Armenia
Speaker 5: lost a very large exclave called Nagorno Karabakh to Azerbaijan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember hearing about that, but I'm unfamiliar with
Speaker 1: how that took place. Was it a like a land grab,
Speaker 1: was it a military takeover? How did that all shake out?
Speaker 5: Well, first I think Azerbaijean bombed it or something, and
Speaker 5: a lot of the Armenian population left in twenty twenty
Speaker 5: and then just in twenty twenty three or twenty four,
Speaker 5: I think Ozerbajehan moved in a bunch of troops and said,
Speaker 5: all your Armenians get out, just walk to the main
Speaker 5: land mass of Armenia. And they did. Wow. I don't
Speaker 5: think many people died, but it was a pretty serious
Speaker 5: loss for territory. Okay with the Armenia, Yeah, they used
Speaker 5: to There used to be lots of Armenians scattered in
Speaker 5: eastern Turkey and the Armenian genocide ended that. So now
Speaker 5: there's no Armenians left in Turkey, but in southeastern Turkey
Speaker 5: that's where the Kurds live.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Now, would you would it be fair to
Speaker 1: compare this, I mean, aside from the bombing. Aside from
Speaker 1: the bombing, would it be fair to compare this to
Speaker 1: the Crimea takeover of twenty fourteen.
Speaker 5: Well, I think it was kind of a demographic replacement,
Speaker 5: because I'm pretty sure that gornol Kherbach was overwhelmingly Armenian
Speaker 5: until recently Gotcha, and in Crimea, I don't think there's
Speaker 5: been any demographic change, at least not significant. A few
Speaker 5: people have moved back and forth, but Crimea is last
Speaker 5: I read fifty percent Russian, twenty five percent Ukrainian, and
Speaker 5: twenty five percent Tatar, which is an indigenous Muslim population
Speaker 5: with their own language. They're kind of Turkish, and I
Speaker 5: actually knew a girl of that background way back twenty
Speaker 5: years ago, but I haven't seen her in twenty years,
Speaker 5: but she spoke Russian fluently. I remember that much.
Speaker 1: I thought the Tartars were ethnic, like a tribal ethnic
Speaker 1: group out of Russia. The Yakuts are another one that
Speaker 1: we just talked about on the Fire Eagle Nest episode
Speaker 1: we just did. It's like a Russian tribal group in Siberia.
Speaker 1: I thought the Tartars were kind of also a Russian
Speaker 1: tribal group. I didn't know they were a Turkish based group.
Speaker 5: They're Central Asian and those people are also related to Turks,
Speaker 5: to Turkmen. My grandfather told me he was told in
Speaker 5: the fifties when he was studying linguistics that Korean was
Speaker 5: related to Turkish, But that's been more poop pooed and
Speaker 5: debunked now and I never really believed that much. But
Speaker 5: like everywhere from Kazakhstan to Turkey, including a lot of
Speaker 5: southern Russia, is actually kind of related. They're Muslim and
Speaker 5: their Turkic.
Speaker 1: Interesting. I had never heard the linguistic connection between Korea
Speaker 1: and Turkey. That's a wild claim. But then again, I've
Speaker 1: also heard people, even on the Cult of Conspiracy, We've
Speaker 1: had people say that the connection to Semitic languages. You
Speaker 1: can look at the Welsh language and even some of
Speaker 1: the Gaelic languages and find direct connections between Hebrew and
Speaker 1: traditional Irish Gaelic. I personally do not see that at all,
Speaker 1: not even just their alphabet, but the words, the pronunciations
Speaker 1: or any of that. But some people make these connections.
Speaker 1: I'm not smart enough to look at it with that
Speaker 1: kind of a tilted lens. I guess I don't know.
Speaker 5: Much of Ukraine, by the way, including the part they're
Speaker 5: fighting over right now. Between Russia and Ukraine that used
Speaker 5: to be Turkic. The Cossacks I believe were Turkic people.
Speaker 5: They spoke a Turkic language, but they were Orthodox Christian
Speaker 5: and well, I could be wrong about some of this,
Speaker 5: but if you go back far enough, like three hundred
Speaker 5: years or more, that's it was a very different demographic
Speaker 5: landscape there before the Slavs moved in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're I think you're on the money on this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Cossacks were kind of a weird. I don't want
Speaker 1: to call them a warlord group, and it's also unfair
Speaker 1: to call them like a mercenary group too, although multiple
Speaker 1: cultures and multiple kingdoms have hired them as mercenaries. But
Speaker 1: that's just kind of what they did. They were a
Speaker 1: nomadic tribal people that yeah, I've not mistaken there. They
Speaker 1: were more of a Turkic language background, and I don't
Speaker 1: know ethno, I want to say Ethno. Linguistically, they were
Speaker 1: from at least Turkic origins or they were like some
Speaker 1: like second or third cousins of the Turks, something along
Speaker 1: these lines. But then, yeah, the Slavic influences kind of
Speaker 1: enveloped them as time went on and everything. But yeah,
Speaker 1: interesting things. Okay, now, as we're on the topic of
Speaker 1: Russia and everything, what have you heard about this? Thirty
Speaker 1: thousand troops from North Korea are making their way to
Speaker 1: the Ukrainian front and the whole two hundred thousand more
Speaker 1: conscripts from Russia. What's your take on this?
Speaker 5: Well, I guess Ukraine, I mean, sorry, in North Korea,
Speaker 5: there's still got more guys to send. I think the
Speaker 5: population in North Korea is something like twenty or thirty million,
Speaker 5: and they probably have a mandatory draft.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And also I got to correct myself. I think I
Speaker 5: commented it chat last night that Russia isn't conscripting, but
Speaker 5: then I googled it later and it looks like, yeah,
Speaker 5: they actually are, and they have been since late April. Yeah. Now,
Speaker 5: this is not full blown shove a rifle into somebody's
Speaker 5: hands and send them to the front. It's more like, well,
Speaker 5: you're being conscripted. You're gonna be in a support role.
Speaker 5: You're not going to be fighting, because if you wanted
Speaker 5: to fight, you probably would have volunteered for that already.
Speaker 5: But you're gonna replace guys who are already doing support roles.
Speaker 5: And they volunteered and they are probably gonna be put
Speaker 5: on the front line to fight. It's kind of the
Speaker 5: same switch or u that was going on a couple
Speaker 5: of years ago when the airports got flooded, when Russia
Speaker 5: was calling up reservists, those reservists were only going to
Speaker 5: go to other parts of the Russian border. They weren't
Speaker 5: going to go to Ukraine. They were relieving people and
Speaker 5: like Kazakhstan and Mongolia so that those people could go
Speaker 5: to Ukraine. My overall impression is Russia's gonna win this.
Speaker 5: I've been saying that for a while, and I don't
Speaker 5: think they're gonna need to be scraping the bottom of
Speaker 5: the barrel or forcing too many guys to fight who
Speaker 5: don't already want to fight. They already have a pretty
Speaker 5: high military volunteer rate, kind of like this country does.
Speaker 5: A lot of people join it because they get educational
Speaker 5: benefits and other benefits out of it. And yeah, they're
Speaker 5: going to win this eventually. They're just grinding through, gaining
Speaker 5: a couple square miles every day, and Ukraine it's falling slowly,
Speaker 5: but one of these days it might be an all
Speaker 5: at once kind of thing where it falls off a
Speaker 5: cliff and Europe in America don't want them to fall
Speaker 5: off the cliff. I think Trump wants some negotiated settlement,
Speaker 5: but he did agree to send a bunch more weapons
Speaker 5: there a day or two ago. I was a little
Speaker 5: disappointed at that, but whatever, it just is what it is,
Speaker 5: and I'm still gonna hope that March of twenty twenty six,
Speaker 5: I think this will be over.
Speaker 1: Now with the North Korean troops making their way to
Speaker 1: the front, there's a talk being had about how Russia
Speaker 1: is going to give North Korea some more modern and
Speaker 1: updated tech. There is a fear that I've seen a
Speaker 1: few different news anchors and content creators and all these
Speaker 1: things proposed to say that we may be looking at
Speaker 1: the beginnings of a new arms race on the Korean
Speaker 1: peninsula because Korea is mostly or North Korea is dealing
Speaker 1: with mostly outdated equipment and outdated tactics. None of their
Speaker 1: people have seen combat since the Korean War any of
Speaker 1: these things. And it made sense to me whenever I
Speaker 1: mean North Korea, being a pariah state as they are,
Speaker 1: they don't have many allies. Russia is one of them,
Speaker 1: so them sending a contingent of troops to the front
Speaker 1: to get some of their elder units to get some
Speaker 1: battlefield testing and experience. It may sense to me thirty
Speaker 1: thousand more. I'm not even saying that's more their elite
Speaker 1: units or how many you know, battalions that is in
Speaker 1: the North Korean Army. I got no idea, But of
Speaker 1: the ten thousand they sent, I want to say, seven
Speaker 1: thousand have been either KIA or or I don't want
Speaker 1: to use the term MIA, but they're no longer on
Speaker 1: the front line from name your reason. The guys that
Speaker 1: are still there have like acclimated to being on the
Speaker 1: front lines and in the trench warfare and all these things.
Speaker 1: And thirty thousand more that's definitely not a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's not a lot either, but it's it's very much
Speaker 1: needed on the front from anybody. And if Russia gives
Speaker 1: them more modern tech that they have not had access to,
Speaker 1: they're saying that they may use this tech to create
Speaker 1: better weapons systems that they can then use to attack
Speaker 1: South Korea. What is your take on this?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I bet that's one hundred percent true. And I
Speaker 5: wasn't thinking about that, but it makes sense. This is
Speaker 5: probably a quid pro quote kind of situation. Russia and
Speaker 5: North Korea. From what I've read, they've been very public.
Speaker 5: They've been making very public statements about how our relationship
Speaker 5: is as strong as it's ever been and it's going
Speaker 5: to get stronger, and we got a formal alliance now
Speaker 5: basically I think they signed some paperwork to really formalize it.
Speaker 5: But I've also seen that China does not make alliances
Speaker 5: with anybody. So China and Russia, Shiji Ping and Putin
Speaker 5: say our relationship is stronger than ever, but China doesn't
Speaker 5: want to actually be a formal ally with anybody, and
Speaker 5: North Korea is a little more desperate. They don't really
Speaker 5: have any allies, so reading Russia really really helps them
Speaker 5: out on that front. This is a quid pro quo
Speaker 5: relationship for both of them. They're both seeing some benefits,
Speaker 5: and I'm sure Russia appreciates the troops for North Korea.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm really wondering what this is going to
Speaker 5: do for Trump's motivation to try to make peace with
Speaker 5: the North Korea, which I think he sincerely tried in
Speaker 5: his first term, because he tried to meet Kim two
Speaker 5: or three times, one time down in like Singapore or something,
Speaker 5: and then the second time in Korea, and maybe there's
Speaker 5: a third time. I don't remember, but John Bolton kind
Speaker 5: of torpedoed that whole thing. Yeah, And I think it
Speaker 5: would have been good for Trump to at least end
Speaker 5: the war formally and try to get a peace agreement there,
Speaker 5: because Trump was Trump's main geopolitical vision is that China
Speaker 5: is our main enemy or adversary, enemy, competitor, or whatever
Speaker 5: you want to call them, and then we need as
Speaker 5: many partners in the in the global competition against China
Speaker 5: as we can get, and North Korea might be a
Speaker 5: useful one because contrary to what so many advisors say,
Speaker 5: China actually doesn't control North Korea. They get along kind
Speaker 5: of sort of half the time, but not really.
Speaker 1: So it's a Chiavellian friendship if nothing else. That's it's
Speaker 1: for the betterment of each other. It's not like any
Speaker 1: of them actually care about each other by any means.
Speaker 5: Uh huh. I think I think Trump could have and
Speaker 5: should have made peace with the North Korean and it's
Speaker 5: a shame he didn't, And you know, I wonder if
Speaker 5: he'll try to do it again. I hope he does.
Speaker 1: I think he got, like you said, further than any
Speaker 1: other president has since the end of the Korean War.
Speaker 1: I don't think we've ever had a president go to
Speaker 1: North Korea in the way that he did and get
Speaker 1: paper signed. But yeah, just a couple of years later,
Speaker 1: North Korea blows up the railways and the bridges connecting
Speaker 1: the two countries, which weren't being used by any means,
Speaker 1: but they were there. Then they're trying to launch ships
Speaker 1: and up their navy, which I'm not inherently upset with
Speaker 1: a country with a coastline trying to have a naval presence.
Speaker 1: That makes sense to me, but that was also kind
Speaker 1: of a bit of an embarrassment. So yeah, we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens. And I don't know for a fact that
Speaker 1: Kim John will actually take the new and turn it
Speaker 1: into weapons and attack South Korea. I highly suspect that.
Speaker 1: I'm like ninety nine percent sure that if nothing else,
Speaker 1: he'll use it to do even louder saber rattling, you know.
Speaker 1: And Okay, but I don't. I don't know how it's
Speaker 1: gonna shake out. And to your point, no, China's not
Speaker 1: friends with North Korea. They have supported them historically speaking,
Speaker 1: but also it wasn't too terribly long ago whenever North
Speaker 1: Korea was messing around with nukes that China sent like
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand troops to the North Korean border to
Speaker 1: basically tell them, like yo, stop, like enough where we
Speaker 1: are even getting tired of y'all's of y'all shit. So
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think Jijaping is particularly fond of
Speaker 1: Kim Jong. It's more like an enemy of my enemy
Speaker 1: situation when it benefits all parties. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, every country also wants to have the most advanced
Speaker 5: weapons they possibly can, and it's often legitimately or sincerely
Speaker 5: for self defense. Yeah, you know, I think Israel's possession
Speaker 5: of nuclear weapon bes is mostly for their own self defense,
Speaker 5: that's but nobody wants another country to have powerful weapons,
Speaker 5: even if it is just for that that country's own
Speaker 5: self defense, because it does tip the whole balance.
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 1: Know, Like I ran, for instance, they've been screaming death
Speaker 1: to Israel and death to America for decades. Like okay,
Speaker 1: even the other Muslim countries don't want them to have nukes.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, if I don't.
Speaker 5: Know, shouts against nuclear and chemical weapons, they've never pursued
Speaker 5: them since the revolution. They might they Yeah, they never have,
Speaker 5: but you know, they might start if they really feel
Speaker 5: like that's the only way to ensure their survival.
Speaker 1: But then also, like let's say Laos. If Laos decided
Speaker 1: that they wanted nukes, and not to anybody who's listening,
Speaker 1: I am not a geopolitical expert on all countries and
Speaker 1: Southeast Age. I'm just dowing a shot out of a
Speaker 1: cannon here. I don't know how many countries would really
Speaker 1: be pissed off at that. I mean, their neighbors would
Speaker 1: probably have something to say, I'm sure, but it's not
Speaker 1: like America would be like, oh, we have to stop
Speaker 1: these these Laustian people from the habit Like nobody's at
Speaker 1: war with them. They're not at war with anybody there.
Speaker 1: They're just kind of doing their own thing right now,
Speaker 1: you know, That's what I'm saying. I don't know if
Speaker 1: a country was pretty neutral, likes Switzerland. Historically, that's one
Speaker 1: of the most neutral countries on Earth. Ever, if Switzerland
Speaker 1: decided they wanted to have nukes, I don't know if
Speaker 1: anybody would really have a problem with that, or if
Speaker 1: that would cause a massive up I don't know. Iran,
Speaker 1: I could understand what that would cause a people I
Speaker 1: don't know well.
Speaker 5: In the late twentieth century, when the Non Proliferation Agreement
Speaker 5: was being proposed and I think it was signed in
Speaker 5: nineteen seventy, the world was full of all these developing countries.
Speaker 5: We're trying to say as publicly as possible that we
Speaker 5: don't want nukes because that'll just draw us into the
Speaker 5: whole US versus Soviet struggle and we just want no
Speaker 5: part of that. It would have so amusually saying. North
Speaker 5: Korea was even saying it was very public saying we
Speaker 5: don't want nukes in nineteen eighty nine, and they only
Speaker 5: started pursuing them after two thousand and three because George W.
Speaker 5: Bush included them in the Access of Evil speech that
Speaker 5: he gave and Bill Clinton's agreed framework of nineteen ninety
Speaker 5: four went away. But the US was supposed to help
Speaker 5: North Korea obtain some light water nuclear reactors for power
Speaker 5: after the nineteen ninety four agreement, and the US never did.
Speaker 5: I think the gamble there was that that was the
Speaker 5: year Kim Il sung died and New Gingrich and the
Speaker 5: Republican majority in Congress were gambling that, oh yeah, North
Speaker 5: Korea's government's going to fall any minute now. I mean,
Speaker 5: look what just happened to Russia a few years ago,
Speaker 5: and you know, yeah, North Korea's government's going to fall.
Speaker 5: But the Republicans gambled wrong, and Bill Clinton also, I guess,
Speaker 5: gambled wrong. The executive branch did have some control all
Speaker 5: over that, and that was when. I don't want to
Speaker 5: blame the US too much, but the North Korea alleges
Speaker 5: that the famine that occurred in nineteen ninety seven was
Speaker 5: largely a result of the US failing to live up
Speaker 5: to its obligation to relieve sanctions and things like that.
Speaker 5: So that's their spin on it. Maybe they should be
Speaker 5: expected to be able to feed themselves anyway.
Speaker 1: And they don't have that large of a country like
Speaker 1: you would think. And I don't know how the soil
Speaker 1: and agriculture is in North Korea, but you would think
Speaker 1: that for the land mass they have, they could and
Speaker 1: should be able to grow enough food and have enough
Speaker 1: livestock to feed their nation. I don't know, I feel
Speaker 1: like that would that's not too crazy, man, ask.
Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, I guess they import food, and Germany
Speaker 5: else used to import food a lot, and they were
Speaker 5: heavily dependent on trade before World War One, and they
Speaker 5: pursued a much more autarchic way of making their own
Speaker 5: food after that. I know, I'm kind of going down
Speaker 5: a lot of tangents right now, but you know, part
Speaker 5: of me, you know, part of me loves the idea
Speaker 5: of free trade, but part of me also wants as
Speaker 5: much local independence as possible, because you don't want a
Speaker 5: place in the world to start to death just because
Speaker 5: it's so relying on importing food. I think Yemen was
Speaker 5: in a situation like that, and Gaza is in a
Speaker 5: situation like that too, have to import everything. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 5: she's not a good place to be.
Speaker 1: I think you have to have a little bit of both.
Speaker 1: Like you'd absolutely want and need free trade in order
Speaker 1: for society to thrive. But also, yeah, you we all
Speaker 1: want our local area to be so independent that it
Speaker 1: could since completely sustain itself. I mean, hell, I want
Speaker 1: my neighborhood to be able to sustain itself. I wish
Speaker 1: it would. It won't. That's blame the HOA for that,
Speaker 1: but neither here nor there. Yeah, I'm with you. I
Speaker 1: think that. I don't know. Again, if North Korea has
Speaker 1: like no agreeable land, than fine, I understand the need
Speaker 1: to import food and everything. But even still, there's been
Speaker 1: many reports from like Human Watch or Human Rights Watch
Speaker 1: and surveys and all of these things saying that Kim
Speaker 1: John basically starves his people intentionally, not necessarily to get
Speaker 1: their submission. They already give him the full submission, but
Speaker 1: it's it's been shown how even when he gets aid
Speaker 1: and resources, he hoards those for himself and his crew
Speaker 1: and lets his people starve by the wayside. So I
Speaker 1: also see that as a possible benefit these North Korean
Speaker 1: troops that are going to the front lines here. I
Speaker 1: think they're probably getting better fed now than they have
Speaker 1: arguably in their entire lives. So I could I could
Speaker 1: see it as you know, as a young North Korean
Speaker 1: soldier who might get the opportunity to pull it to
Speaker 1: the front line and all these things like, yeah, that
Speaker 1: seems like a really good option as opposed to staying
Speaker 1: here and dying. But I don't.
Speaker 5: Know, have you ever seen video of on the streets
Speaker 5: of North Korea.
Speaker 1: I've seen a few documentaries of people that snuck across
Speaker 1: the border and were shown like all of the quote
Speaker 1: unquote sites by like tour guides and stuff, and it
Speaker 1: is an extremely clean place. But also, like he showed
Speaker 1: this one, this girl runs a for lack of better,
Speaker 1: it's not a pool haul and it's not a bar,
Speaker 1: but it's like a lounge type area that never has customers.
Speaker 1: He was like her first customer in a year and
Speaker 1: a half, and like it was cool, he had fun
Speaker 1: and everything, but also like, why aren't people coming here?
Speaker 1: Why aren't they doing this? Like and basically from what
Speaker 1: she said, it's and she wasn't like pleading her case.
Speaker 1: It was like very this was her life. They're like, well,
Speaker 1: no one has money to spend, so nobody's gonna come
Speaker 1: here to waste time when they could be out trying
Speaker 1: to work and make money and feed themselves and stuff.
Speaker 1: It's just is what it is. And he's like, so
Speaker 1: how do you support yourself? And she was like, well,
Speaker 1: the government pays us all our share, so like I
Speaker 1: get paid to sit here and wait for someone to
Speaker 1: come in the door to play pool or watch this
Speaker 1: or do whatever. And it was it was very strange.
Speaker 1: It's very it's very dystopian.
Speaker 5: Yeah, from what I've seen, you do see kids going
Speaker 5: to school, you don't see people starving to death. Anymore,
Speaker 5: even though that was a big deal in the late nineties.
Speaker 5: You do see some commerce and a lot of bicycles,
Speaker 5: not many cars, right, but it seems like they're doing
Speaker 5: a lot better than they used to. But it seems
Speaker 5: like also a population of people that's also that's all
Speaker 5: being all waiting to be told what to do. And
Speaker 5: every once in a while when some of somebody escapes
Speaker 5: North Korea, they get to the South and they started asking, Okay, well,
Speaker 5: what do you want me to do? What job should
Speaker 5: I have? And they're told it's up to you, you
Speaker 5: can do what you want, and they just don't know
Speaker 5: what to do with themselves. It's like, no, somebody tell
Speaker 5: me what to do.
Speaker 1: They don't have like dreams or aspirations because they were
Speaker 1: taught not to have dreams and aspirations. It's it's very
Speaker 1: much just do as you're told kind of thing. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you have people that leave that and they like,
Speaker 1: what's that one Yomi Park I think her name is, yeah,
Speaker 1: and she's talking about how like growing up in North
Speaker 1: Korea and what that was like. And then there's people
Speaker 1: that bash her and say that that was completely all fabricated,
Speaker 1: made up and she's just saying whatever she can to
Speaker 1: get timp or fifteen minutes of fame. I don't know
Speaker 1: her personally, so I can't speak on it, but yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's a whole other thing that you'll see. It's
Speaker 1: like there's propaganda either way you look at that, because
Speaker 1: there's a ton of North Korean defectors who you can
Speaker 1: watch their interviews and they don't really have many positive
Speaker 1: things to say about North Korea. But then you'll have
Speaker 1: others that will say, well, they're doing that clearly because
Speaker 1: this is them trying to like counterop the North Koreans
Speaker 1: to make them look evil and it you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've just seen Yon Me Park on Joe Rogan
Speaker 5: and stuff. And the thing she the thing she's gotten
Speaker 5: the most criticism for was by saying that, oh, in
Speaker 5: North Korea, kids are starving all the time and parents
Speaker 5: give their kids mud to eat, but if you eat
Speaker 5: the mud, you'll die in seven days. I think something
Speaker 5: like that probably happened a lot back in nineteen ninety seven,
Speaker 5: but it's probably not happened recently.
Speaker 1: I mean you say that, but also look at Haiti
Speaker 1: right now. They have those mud cookies that they're feeding people.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, yeah, I didn't see that. That's pretty insane.
Speaker 1: It's so bad that they are buying them on credit. Like,
Speaker 1: and that's the thing that you could just so you
Speaker 1: could source the dirt in your backyard. Why are you
Speaker 1: buying it from somebody and then since nobody has money,
Speaker 1: you have to buy it on credit for a mud cookie,
Speaker 1: It makes no sense to me, So like, it's it now.
Speaker 1: I don't know about if you eat the mud you
Speaker 1: die in seven days. I have no idea what that
Speaker 1: claim is about. I don't know. Again, soil toxicity in
Speaker 1: North Korea as opposed to haiti, I don't know. But yeah,
Speaker 1: people in those dire straits that are starving eating actual dirt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's absolutely a thing. I don't know. It's it is.
Speaker 5: Here's another thing from North Korea. This happened like maybe
Speaker 5: a month or two ago. BBC got a smartphone that
Speaker 5: was smuggled out of North Korea and they were commenting
Speaker 5: on how if you try to text message politically incorrect
Speaker 5: words like South Korea, it will auto correct you to
Speaker 5: puppet state, and it'll also kind of criticize you and
Speaker 5: smack you on the wrist a little bit.
Speaker 1: I can believe it. That's hilarious.
Speaker 5: But then I liked one Twitter comment or is there's
Speaker 5: a Chinese, you know, big time pro China guy? He said, Wait,
Speaker 5: I thought I was supposed to believe that North Korea
Speaker 5: has no electricity. Now you're telling me they have smartphones.
Speaker 5: But yeah, it is believable. North Korea has progressed all
Speaker 5: the way to smartphones, and they do have electricity. They
Speaker 5: do have enough food now. But you can't write whatever
Speaker 5: you want on.
Speaker 1: The smartphone, of course not.
Speaker 5: But it also reminds me of being during COVID, where
Speaker 5: you couldn't write whatever you wanted on Facebook or Twitter either,
Speaker 5: and you slip up just a little, but even if
Speaker 5: it's not even realistic, really a slip up that you
Speaker 5: just get flagged. And you know, I'm glad we're more
Speaker 5: free now than we were back then, and it's worse
Speaker 5: in North Korea. But yeah, the smartphone is pretty much
Speaker 5: what you'd expect in North Korean smartphone to.
Speaker 1: Be, like, I mean, hell, that's the reason why the
Speaker 1: culture conspiracy isn't on YouTube is because we had no
Speaker 1: freedom of speech during COVID. Yeah, North Korea, there's no
Speaker 1: way they their people don't have freedom for much, if any.
Speaker 1: So yeah, of course the smartphones are gonna autocorrect certain
Speaker 1: terms and phrases like that. That's that's funny, all right now.
Speaker 1: I did want to wrap the episode with this last
Speaker 1: article that raven Le sent as a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: this is kind of circling back to the Epstein thing.
Speaker 1: Let's see this was written. This is from the Intelligencer.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've heard of this publication before,
Speaker 1: but okay, and I don't see a date. I don't
Speaker 1: see a date on this one. Let's check it out. Say,
Speaker 1: oh oh, this is about the bank accounts. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: talk why did one of Jeffrey Epstein's bank accounts come
Speaker 1: back online after his death? Okay. One of the many
Speaker 1: unknown surrounding Jeffrey Epstein's life and death involves the peculiar
Speaker 1: circumstances of how a college dropout without any real financial
Speaker 1: bonafides could rack up a fortune's worth of hundreds of
Speaker 1: millions of dollars. Seven months after his apparent suicide, new
Speaker 1: fiscal mysteries are still emerging. According to a court hearing
Speaker 1: this week, documents presented to a judge in the US
Speaker 1: Virgin Islands, show a series of multimillion dollar payments transferred
Speaker 1: from his estate to a bank he owned, South South
Speaker 1: Country International, after his death in August. Epstein's bank, used
Speaker 1: to manage offshore dealings, had a little under seven hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars in assets. In December, the estate transferred fifteen
Speaker 1: point five million dollars. All of the funds save for
Speaker 1: the five hundred thousand, were withdrawn before the end of
Speaker 1: this year. There's no explanation for it. Judge Carolyn Hermann Purcell,
Speaker 1: who was responsible for the responsible for the distribution of
Speaker 1: Epstein's remaining assets in the Virgin Islands. Epstein's lawyer, claims
Speaker 1: that the transfers were in error, though the records are
Speaker 1: found listed with basic financial payments like cable bills. Herman
Speaker 1: Purcell law has ordered the estate to produce further documents
Speaker 1: explaining the financial irregularities. Another major oddity was reported this week.
Speaker 1: Epstein's bank, Southern Country International, should not have existed due
Speaker 1: to his criminal history. Still, his twenty fourteen application, in
Speaker 1: which Epstein sold himself as one of the pioneers in
Speaker 1: investment banking, was approved, becoming one of the US Virgin
Speaker 1: Island's first International Banks, despite license renewals every year up
Speaker 1: until twenty nineteen. The Daily Mail reports that there was
Speaker 1: no indication that the bank was operating as a business
Speaker 1: in the time it was open. At the moment, court
Speaker 1: cases in the US Virgin Islands appeared to be the
Speaker 1: most promising vehicle for uncovering more information about Epstein's alleged
Speaker 1: sex traffick operations and financial inconsistencies. In addition to the
Speaker 1: case overseen by Herman Purcel that will distribute Epstein's assets,
Speaker 1: now estimated to be as much as six hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty four million dollars, the Attorney General of the United
Speaker 1: States Virgin Islands, Denise in George, filed a lawsuit against
Speaker 1: the estate, alleging that the financier had trafficked hundreds of victims,
Speaker 1: potentially as young as eleven years old, to his island
Speaker 1: of Little Saint James, and maintained the operation until as
Speaker 1: late as twenty eighteen. Okay, so allegedly these banks, the
Speaker 1: bank accounts are not supposed to be up and running
Speaker 1: in the bank was shut down all this, but it's
Speaker 1: still transferring millions of dollars. So that is quite interesting.
Speaker 1: I mean, just because he's out. I'm sure he had
Speaker 1: other bank representatives that had access to things that are
Speaker 1: making these transfers happen. But still that's kind of peculiar.
Speaker 1: And all these new and new quote unquote nothing to
Speaker 1: see here moments from the Judicial Department. That's highly suspect.
Speaker 1: That is highly suspect. And this is why I'm a
Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist, y'all. Just so everyone's clear. Anyway, Again, I
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