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And no Elon Musk did not do the Nazi sign

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at the rally. He was throwing his heart out. He

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put his hand on his heart and he like threw

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his heart. He was thanking people. He did it several times.

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It's not are we still doing this? Are we still

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doing this? Like the okay symbol? Like when you do

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an okay with your hands, like, oh, white power? Like

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are we still doing this? Stupidity? Lefties? Come on, So

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Donald Trump signs thirty three executive orders yesterday. There's plenty

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of material for you guys to go after him over.

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You don't have to do the Oh my gosh, that

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hand signal is something I think it is, even though

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it wasn't. You don't have to do that, Okay, you

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could just like look at the substantive issues. Also, people

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are very concerned that's a capital V and very in

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a capital C, and concerned it's trademarked slogan. By the way.

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People are very concerned that the guy who made a

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whole TV series around firing people is let me see here, yeah,

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firing people as president. Who could have seen that coming?

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Donald Trump posted on his truth social platform. Our first

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day in the White House is not over yet. My

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Presidential Personnel Office is actively in the process of identifying

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Andrew the headn'trite this, you know how I know he

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didn't right this. The capitalizations are correct. There aren't like

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randomly capitalized words in the middle of his post. Anyway.

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He says they're removing over one thousand presidential appointees from

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the previous administration who are not aligned with our vision

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to make America great again. Let this serve as official

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notice of dismissal for these four individuals, with many more

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coming soon. And then he names four people, Jose Andres

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from the President's Council on Sports, Fitness and Nutrition, Mark

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Milly from the National Infrastructure Advisory Council, Brian Hook from

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the Wilson Center for Scholars, and Keisha Lance Bottoms from

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the President's Export Council. And then he says, in all caps,

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you fired. That would be a good hook for a

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TV show that where you fired a bunch of people

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like that. That could work. Reid Is reports it thusly,

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President Donald Trump said he plans to remove over a

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thousand appointees from the administration of former President Joe Biden,

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announcing four dismissals on social media, including the celebrity chef

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Jose Andres and former top General Mark Millie. The step

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is likely to reignite concerns that the President aims to

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replace Biden appointees with individuals faithful to his agenda. No, well,

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actually he says it right there in that post. He says,

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he's removing these appointees who are not aligned with our vision. So,

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I mean, I don't know why would It's not likely

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to reignite concerns. You're already very concerned, So it's not

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likely to do anything If you are already very concerned.

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It shouldn't reignite anything. That fire is already burning, right Reuters.

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I mean, he says it right there. That's the reason

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they're not aligned with the vision, which, by the way,

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I think the last time a president removed appointees from

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the administration when they took over, you got to go

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way back in the history books to Joe Biden four

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years ago for the exact same reason. By the way,

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exact same reason. I've got the receipts. We'll get to them.

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The portrait of Millie, a former chairman of the Joint

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Chiefs of Staff who Trump has suggested should be executed

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for holding back channel talks with China, was removed from

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the Pentagon. Okay, I don't know if he said he

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should be executed. I don't know. Maybe he did. It

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would not surprise me if he did, let me be clear.

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But I suspect he said something along the lines of

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that's treasonous. He should be tried for treason, and the

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punishment for that could be execution. So but I don't know.

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I did not go deeper into the Reuters language there.

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But the thing to keep in mind here, and we're

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gonna come across it again in a bit is if

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you only got your news from Reuters. Just kidding. Nobody

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only gets their news from Routers. Well, Larry, let's just

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say that you got your news from a news entity

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that relied heavily on Reuters. Okay, And Reuters is like

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the Associated Press or the AFP. It's this international news

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gathering and dissemination platform, and a lot of news organizations

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will pay to be a member, to subscribe basically, and

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then you get all of the rights to publish their stories.

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So if you were only consuming media and we're relying

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on Reuters, you would not have the full context of

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this story of what's going on. And we see it

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again in another piece later on. I'll point it out

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when we get there. So the portrait of Milli Mark

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Milli was removed from the Pentagon shortly after Trump's inauguration

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on Monday, And by the way, he swapped out the

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portrait in the oval office of who is at Teddy Roosevelt.

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I think that Biden had hung up there next to

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the desk, next to the resolute desk, and that has

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been re move now and replaced with another portrait of

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Andrew Jackson, not the portrait of Andrew Jackson that Trump

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had before, but now it's Andrew Jackson in retirement, so

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it's an older He went with an older portrait of Jackson. Well,

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because Trump's older too, you know, so I guess that

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makes sense. There were a bunch of other oh. Trump

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also ordered federal workers to return to the office five

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days a week and weekend job protections for civil servants

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on Monday, the first salvos in his campaign to gut

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the federal bureaucracy aka the deep state or the ministerial class,

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if you will. Trump's allies have said the return to

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work mandate and the stripping of civil service protections widely

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known as Schedule F, is intended to help the president

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replace long serving government workers with loyalists. Note there is

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an assumption built into that sentence that anybody who has

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been a longtime government worker is not a loyalist to

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the Democrat Party, is not a loyalist to any other president,

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and of course that is not correct. There are people

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in the bureaucracy. We heard about them the first time

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Trump won when he beat Hillary Clinton, and we heard

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this term being bandied about, the resistance, or as I

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call it, the resistance. Well, it's a tribute to the

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French and they're highly successful resistance. But the number of

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people that work in government, Look, they're just like everybody else. Right,

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people have their political opinions and beliefs and ideas and such.

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And if you are in a position as these bureaucrats are,

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to throw sand in the gears of what the incoming

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administration wants to do, because you believe it's you know,

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literally Hitler, because you've been reading a lot of Reuters,

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I guess, and the Associated well and the New York

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Times and the Well well okay, so mainly a lot

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of the mainstream media. But if you've been reading that

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stuff and this is what you believe, then why wouldn't

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you try to stop Hitler? Right, everything's on the table,

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if you're trying to stop the rise of Nazism and fascism,

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I mean, aside from like the Hamas Hollies, aside from them, like,

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that's a different kind. That's an okay, form of authoritarianism.

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So so here is how the New York Times reported

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this story. President elect Donald Trump. Oh, by the way,

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this was last month. Okay. Trump has moved to install loyalists.

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There's that word again. In jobs that Congress did not.

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So a loyalist is what somebody that's loyal to Trump

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or somebody that is of a like mind on what

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Trump wants to do. They make no distinction here, because

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how could they. They're talking in these sweeping generality assuming

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that anybody who gets hired to go to work in

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the government under a Trump administration must obviously be a

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quote loyalist to Donald Trump the man, and not to

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any idea of rooting out the deep state, quote unquote

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the ministerial class, to rooting out the corruption. It is.

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What it is is a form of shut up ry.

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It is. You don't belong here. This is our realm.

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We'll keep our hands on the levers of power. You

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don't come here into our agency and start trying to

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curtail the overreach that we have enjoyed for a very

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long time. We've been working very hard to get into

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all facets of the economy and people's lives. You don't

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get to come in here and undo all of that

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progress that we have been making. That's what this is.

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This is an underlying assumption that a quote loyalist appointed

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by Trump somehow or another doesn't belong in an agency

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to do the thing that Donald Trump promised he would

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do and that voters elected him to do. Here's a

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moves to replace officials, and this was a great concern

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to Democrats and media. But I repeat myself because you know,

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traditionally you let these people serve out their whole term.

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For example, the FBI director. Right, the FBI director gets

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appointed to a ten year term, and Trump's like, no,

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I'm gonna fire Christopher Ray. And in this New York

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be treated like ordinary political appointees, whom incoming presidents immediately

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replace with their own selections. As a matter of course,

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while mister Trump has the legal power to do so,

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so he is allowed to do this, he is violating

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a norm of self restraint that past presidents, including himself,

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adhered to. Except there there are like lots of examples

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of people not doing this, including way back in the

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historical annals, if you will, Joe Biden in his first year,

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and just laid waste to all of these appointees under

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Donald Trump. Oh and by the way, speaking of the FBI,

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I see here at hot air dot com that Christopher

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Ray made his intention known to publicly and publicly to

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resign last month, and he apparently lined up his deputy director,

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Paul A Body, to assume the role of acting director.

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A body took over for a day, and now he resigned. Like,

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what are you guys even doing over there? Did you

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not talk to a body before you? Like, why would

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you line up a guy to do one day? Just yeah,

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they're yeah, they're draining themselves. The swamp is draining itself.

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All right. I hope you had a happy holiday season,

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But tell me if something like this happened at your house.

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Your family and friends are gathered around, maybe y'all are

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in the living room, you're laughing, swapping stories, reminiscing, and

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then somebody says, hey, Dad, remember those old VHS tapes?

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Did you ever get them transferred? And then the room

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gets all quiet. All eyes are on Dad, who says, oh,

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you know, well, I've been meaning to, but I just

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having gotten around to it. Look, don't let those priceless

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memories sit in a box for another year. All right.

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massages here on the Twitter from Eric? It's a Pete tweet?

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He says, So, Pete, you mean to tell me that

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it's gone from impossible to fire Democrat bureaucrats who are

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actively impeding the President's reforms to nearly has gone from

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impossible to fire them to nearly impossible to fire them.

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These people would never last in the private sector, and

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Eric then says that the norm is that Democrat appointees

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get to serve forever, but Republican appointees can be fired immediately.

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I can't believe you missed that in civics one oh two.

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That's fair. That's fair, right, because it's different when Democrats

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do it. See, it's different. Let me go over here

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and get ed. Hello, ed, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, you were talking about the FBI director resigning

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and another one coming in for one day. Yeah, the

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sole purpose, and that was just to fatten up that

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individual's retirement plan. That probably added another fifteen hundred thousand

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dollars a year to his pension.

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Speaker 1: That could be the case. I've seen people raise this

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as a potential explanation, but I don't know what the

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rules are if you just get to be in there

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for one day, or if there was a certain amount

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of time you have to be in a post for

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it to be uh. Because what you're talking about is

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pension spiking. Is the is the term that they do

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that that is used for this, and it's not just

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at the FBI level, like it happens all across public sectors.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, waiting and to say what happens to the

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military now, anybody, uh, at that weight level and higher,

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you can be sure there's gonna be a rush and

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a rash of promotions in for the same reason.

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Speaker 1: Just about yeah, yeah, maybe so maybe, so we'll wait

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and see. I appreciate the call ed. Yeah, pension spiking

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is it is a thing. It does occur very often.

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People get promoted by, you know, a manager that likes them,

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and they quote reward them, they give them a promotion.

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But when it became so obvious that this pension spiking

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was occurring, a lot of rules got put in place

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at like state in law, local levels, So you have

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to be in the position for a certain amount of time.

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I don't know if that's the case for this gig,

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but that could explain why, and that would be even

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more egregious than just simply the clown show explanation. So

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the leaders of the FBI as well as the IRS

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serve a fixed term that does not align with changes

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in administrations, both of the terms of the current people.

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So you got Christopher Ray, the FBI director although now

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he's gone, and the IRS Commissioner, Danny Werfel. They both

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expire in twenty twenty seven. They just happen to line up.

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The IRS guys got a five year term, the FBI

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guys got a ten year term, and so they were

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both set to see their terms expire in twenty seven.

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The New York Times report says the practice by incoming

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presidents of letting officials in positions with legally define terms

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finish serving them out does not adhere to all positions

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in the executive branch. Even though a federal law says

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US attorneys are appointed to four year terms, it is

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routine for all of them to offer their resignations when

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new presidents take over, no matter how long they have served. Yeah, so,

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isn't like that's an interesting thing. Remember George W. Bush

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and he fired like thirteen. I think US attorneys an

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outrage ensued. How dare he? These are public service? You know,

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there's always this crying and gnashing of teeth when a

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Republican does this, and when Democrats do it, it's, well,

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you know, that's part of the gig. They all knew

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what they were signing on for. But beyond that, The

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New York Times reports it is difficult to identify any

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clear modern precedent for Trump's actions, and then they go

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on to list three actual incidents that are in fact

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the same thing. We can't find any precedent, well except

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these number. One January nineteen ninety three, officials in Clinton's

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administration immediately started exploring what to do about the FBI

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director William's Sessions, and Sessions refused to exign, resign, and

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so Clinton removed him, cutting short his term by about

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four years. Is that different? How is that different? That's

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the same freaking thing. In January twenty twenty one, Biden's

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incoming team ousted the General Counsel of the National Labor

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Relations Board, Peter rob a Trump appointee whose term had

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been set to last until that November they fired him.

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Is that different? No, it's exact same thing. Also, same month,

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same timeframe. Joe Biden, well his handlers sought to remove

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Michael Pack, the Trump appointed chief of the US Agency

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for Global Media that runs like Voice of America and

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Radio Free Asia. So while the New York Time says

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we can't find any precedent where this thing has happened,

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they then list three things of the exact same kind.

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But maybe it's because he's a Republican and that's why

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there's no precedent. That's what Democrats did. Joe Biden just

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did it. He just did this. And by the way,

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the purges continued for months under Joe Biden. Months. All right,

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So back in September twenty twenty one, so this is

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like eight months after Biden got into office and started cleaning,

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how started firing people and such, he was still going.

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In September twenty twenty one, President Biden fired all Military

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Academy board members appointed by Trump, regardless of their qualifications,

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in a purge, drawing stiff pushback because their terms were

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supposed to be three years. Six presidential appointees on each

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academy board, so eighteen people in total were told to resign.

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They were given you know, six pm today or whatever.

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And one one of the board members that I think

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this complete purge shows that the administration is hell bent

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on the woke mob controlling or having input into military education. Right.

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So these are the boards that review, I guess, the

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applications or help run the schools, you know, West Point

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Annapolis or the Naval Academy. Right, this is why is

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such a big deal. They said. Historically it has never

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been done before, unprecedented is a word you could use here.

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Some of the people let go include former National Security

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Advisor hr McMaster, he was on I think, on the

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West Point Board. Kelly and Conway was on the Air

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Force Academy Board, White House. Former White House Press Secretary

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Sean Spicer, who is a longtime Navy reserve officer on

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the Naval Academy Board. Out also removed from the West

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Point Board. Retired General Jack Keene, retired Army Army Colonel

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Douglas McGregor, Afghanistan War veteran clinical psychologist Megan Mobbs, Bronze

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Star recipient, businessman David Urban, retired Army Lieutenant General Guy

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Swan over the Naval Board. Trump's White House Budget director

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Russ Vote, Jonathan Hyler, who worked for former Vice President

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Mike Pence, lawyer John Cole, whose wife is TV host

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Greta Van Susterron Hyler said it's not clear what the

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basis for this purge is. A plane reading of the

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statute that created the board in eighteen seventy nine talk

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about norms and all includes traditionally bipartisan appointments by congressional leaders,

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and says the president's appointees served three year terms. The

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service academy boards have always enjoyed a tradition of bipartisanship.

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Former Naval officer Anthony Parker and retired Rear Admiral Joseph

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Walsh also got the boot from the Naval Academy Board,

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and the White House confirmed that. So don't tell me

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that this is something unprecedented. It's not. I have been

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paying attention. This has been happening more and more and more,

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and really ramped up in the last four years. Back

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in twenty twenty one, before that round of purges. But

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after the first round of purges, the left was celebrating this.

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Mark Joseph Stern, leftist who rights at slate dot Com,

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said that, you know, Joe Biden fired Andrew sol from

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the Social Security Administration. It marked the latest chapter in

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Biden's ongoing efforts to expel Trump holdovers from leadership positions

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in the executive branch. See here, it's totally fine, right,

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And actually, you know who's really to blame here the Republicans.

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Of course, Donald Trump is to blame under this theory

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of unitary executive that's been gathering widespread support on the right,

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scorn from the left. It's like you guys have been

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saying that the executive office has these powers. Well, now

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here you go. How do you like it? We're going

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to use them. Right. But here's the thing, because Stern says,

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if Trump had just put regular competent Republicans, which I

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don't even know what that means to a leftist like

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Stern in charge of the government, Biden might have put

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up with them until their terms run out. But Trump

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put arsonists in charge of the firehouse. How else do

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you reduce the power of the ministerial class unless you

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put people in there with a mission to dismantle it.

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There isn't any other way to do it. This is

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not some sort of a new philosophy that conservatives have

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been espousing. It's kind of the hallmark limited government. All right,

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